ARPGs

[orchid yacht]

Strenght I need for dmg
Int for spells and armor
Dex is stil armor

[keen dagger]

how does strength help your damage?

[fervent raptor]

Life witch I believe

[orchid yacht]

And physical dmg

Bone stuff scales on that

[keen dagger]

it doesn't increase physical damage any more

not innately

if you're doing life witch I would dump dex and use str/int armours

[fervent raptor]

Oh right, yeah

Str gives life
Dex gives accuracy
Int gives mana

[orchid yacht]

Also ye life

[keen dagger]

there's a lot of good stuff in the top left hand side of the tree

[orchid yacht]

So dumb dex
Hybrid str int

[keen dagger]

I keep wanting to call it "the Templar area"

[keen dagger]

yeah you should just get what dex you need to use support gems and then the rest into str and int. will make your attribute requirements easier

dex does so little for you if you're not attacking

[orchid yacht]

My main struggle atm is solidifying a base for support gems requirment
Then spec into main stats

But it's a costant struggle 💀

[orchid yacht]

Currently using a unique to get 100 more spirit atm
Didn't find a better replacement

[keen dagger]

oh yeah that's quite a good chestpiece

[orchid yacht]

weapon wise it's minion staff and a shield
Minions are support oriented atm

I could trade an exalted orb for Bushwacks

[keen dagger]

see if you can buy an amulet with +all attributes implicit and explicit mods. should be able to get +15 each total there pretty easy

[hidden heron]

so how important is the minmax in later game because I'm good at forgetting to do things

[keen dagger]

in order to get past level 80 you will need to have a somewhat optimized build since dying loses you xp

[orchid yacht]

like this one?

[keen dagger]

so far I'm level 79 and winging it making my own build and figuring shit out but I have definitely had to do a couple optimization respecs and trade for gear

[keen dagger]

I'm so confused why this had catalysts used on it lmao but yeah that's fine I wouldn't spend more than an alch on something like that though. you can probably buy better for an exalt.

[orchid yacht]

oh no trading is not for me atm, I like to gain an item trought RNG

but wanted to see if I got that right

[fervent raptor]

Optimisation is a pretty natural and expected process throughout the game

It's not hard min maxing but you're hitting certain baselines (resistances, attributes) and focusing your build from there

[orchid yacht]

my current situation is this one
if I can bother you for an opinion

[fervent raptor]

Mostly not wasting resources on things you don't need, I guess?

[keen dagger]

oh you are early on

[orchid yacht]

ye..very much so

[keen dagger]

once you get out of the starting area on the tree and start picking up attribute passives on the "highways" between notable clusters it gets much easier to manage attributes

[orchid yacht]

i'm alternating between STR and Int, had to pick some of em into Dex cause of skills

[keen dagger]

yeah that's fine

[fervent raptor]

Honestly for a lot of the campaign you can run on blue items

[keen dagger]

I think I still had blues until level 50 or so

and that was just cus I bought an upgrade to go faster

[orchid yacht]

I had some luck with drops but i'm trying to play it much more casually

rejected the meta, just loosely following a guide, to get the fundamentals out of the way

[fervent raptor]

sometimes the new graphics stuff isn't good

there is a mob in front of me

[keen dagger]

you can definitely beat the whole campaign and do tier 1-5 maps without issues without a plan or trading for gear

[fervent raptor]

woo divine tink

[keen dagger]

nice. I just got mine last night

now looking at +3 spell gems amulets I'm gonna need another one

[strong sierra]

I think I underpriced something

||I sold it for 20ex||

For those wondering what it was.

[keen dagger]

yup

[strong sierra]

The MOMENT I put it in a dump tab my notifications exploded

[keen dagger]

stacking damage from mana before life without having to take the huge penalty mom provides seems like a great mitigation strategy

[fervent raptor]

god that'd ruin me

I'm mainlining mana flasks enough as it is!

[keen dagger]

Not enough mana!

[strong sierra]

It is!

[fervent raptor]

I'm so close to T13 skills

Feel like it's gonna be A2C though

[strong sierra]

I think that sounds right to my memory

[strong sierra]

Need some L13 skills?

[fervent raptor]

I mean I'll take one sure but I've also just hit the final zone of A1C

[strong sierra]

Go ahead and poke me when you have a moment and I'll give you some.

[fervent raptor]

sure, poke I guess

[strong sierra]

What's your name in game?

[fervent raptor]

Sarosh

[strong sierra]

Have fun!

[fervent raptor]

flicker flicker flicker flicker

[strong sierra]

Gave you some level 3 support gems too

[fervent raptor]

I saw haha

[fervent raptor]

oh whoops

just ran through the manor on A1 instead of A1C

[keen dagger]

"hey these blood guys are hardly doing any damage to me!"

[strong sierra]

Huh

[knotty glacier]

"I guess i'll blow this orb of chance on a sapphire ring*

get unique worth 2 divines out of it

Eeey

[orchid yacht]

Huh? What's that-

[knotty glacier]

A mispelled sapphire ring! uh, it's the one that makes chill be able to be shattered like frozen can.apparently a must have for Herald of Ice users

[orchid yacht]

noice.
Lucky find

frost is gonna be the next build I do cause it seems fun as heck

[knotty glacier]

Well, burning orbs of chance seems way more fun than selling them, honestly

[keen dagger]

I should start chancing stellar amulets for astramentis

[strong sierra]

Man, I'm starting to get drained on the mapping experience

[knotty glacier]

Oh, ooof, MF affects currency drops etc

[knotty glacier]

It's very undercooked right now. I'd take it easy. It's early acess!

[strong sierra]

Yea I don't like this

[knotty glacier]

Me neither! I think it;'s a mistake. Redidt in genral sems to think it's a mistake, and i'd agree with their general arguments.

Re: mapping, i think the best thing isd just to writeu p feedback, leave it on the forums, and... take a break. it is early acess, there's no reaosn to burn yourself out on mapping. Try out leveling up some other classes, etc

Chasing the skinner box dopamine is never gonna end well

(even if i understand the uirge to)

also, like, EA characters arent going to migrate to live, whenver that happens

so i'm approaching it with a very "This is gonna be mess,y dont get over attache,d play to figure out builds and poke at stuff" approach

If i can writeu p some good feedback along the way, hey, bonus

[strong sierra]

Look, I'm never going to reach the high of finding Original Sin and I'm ok with that.

[keen dagger]

my main issue with mapping right now is that dying in maps is incredibly punishing and there are a ton of jumpscare mobs that can hit you before you see them and do tons of damage

the meteor dropping lost men and the big gorilla vulture things stand out in particular

[solar vigil]

spoilers for end of act 3 cruel/endgame ||interesting way to set up the endgame. my hunch that then end of actual act 3 when acts 4-6 comes out is that we just go back through the portal and legion is attacking the kauri. then we help them out and get that piece of the weapon from them after we drive off legion/hyrri. my guess for act 6 is that we go to oriath and see how the revolution went and how theyv'e reconstructed after kitava. then the conceit for endgame is basically the same.||

[knotty glacier]

Maps are def way too punishign to die into.

I think my summary of end game issues would be:

Not enough unique fights - bosses are the best part of the campaign by far, and they're just too rare in maps. More bosses! way more bosses!
Maps are probably too big? I... acutally kinda dont mind them being big, but i think the reward/time ratio is off given the current punishing off death
Death is way too much right now.
Various endgame crafting mechanics are not at all acessible - i'm 1/3rd of the way through (Nearly doned with t5s), and have... basically no currency for any of the end game crafting stuff
this feeds into: Crafting feeling bad as it's very random without acess to those tools. I dont actually mind it being somewhat random, it's an ARPG, i view them as long form roguelikes, but it's def An Issue.
This also feeds into: Finding upgrades is a crapshot, with very few ways of garuntiing power. the ilevel mechanic is never actually explained, etc.
Magic Find ius well, it's a problem right now. I like the ideas of making it a mapping only thing, i saw someone suggest you should get relics ala sekehma, and be able to socket them into the map to changei tu p - and that way you could have relicsi n creasing magic find for specific things. (Jewels, currency, etc). I really like this idea.

[grizzled hamlet]

ye i figure acts 4-6 will be more ||time travel and us incidentally killing the correct people to setup the 5 generals of legion||

[knotty glacier]

I am looking foward to ||Doryani's invetiable betrayal, hoefully with an even bigger aztec mecha this time||

[knotty glacier]

Also, for someone who never played PoE 1, who/what are the ||LEgion and their generals?||

[grizzled hamlet]

|| https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Legion ||

[knotty glacier]

Minor thing i kidna want to see:" MOre slots on gear, and rune-words from diablo 2

[knotty glacier]

Okay, PoE2 beocming ||And the exiles messed up the timeline|| would be very funny

[grizzled hamlet]

i mean we're already the reason ||incursion happened, cause alva clearly just learned she can time travel in poe 2, so fair to assume the alva in poe 1 is alva from the future of poe 2 after the plot happened||

[knotty glacier]

Alva is fun so far, i like her

Oooh, nice, Rampart Raptor. That'll be good for a baby Merc

[solar vigil]

||maybe, lmao. i just think it would be less weird to go back to the present instead of staying in the past||

[grizzled hamlet]

yeah its just speculation on my end
we'll see what they end up doing

[strong sierra]

Please no runewords

[knotty glacier]

Oh? Why not? (If i was doing them, i'd only be using the existing runes that are avalible, so it'd be a layer of power intended to be a bit more acessible)

[knotty glacier]

That's a tilter, randomly died to a toally invisble floor effect while i was borwisng altar rewards 😦

[keen dagger]

glad that ggg still hasn't solved dot floor effects being obnoxious and shitty

[fervent raptor]

Ground effects my beloathed

[hidden heron]

I don't think there's been a fun version of 'lingering damage area' in like any game, it's always a chore or worse the pathing of your character doesn't consider at all

BG3's good at the latter

[keen dagger]

the only good thing I can say about ground effects in poe2 is that eye of winter deals considerably more damage on x ground modded maps so that's nice

[knotty glacier]

This was somethign dropped byu an enemy i belive. Either way v. upsetting

[fervent raptor]

Oh wow, Invoker is actually nuts

If '...And Protect Me From Harm' doesn't eat a nerf I'll be shocked

[orchid yacht]

Ok lmao I'm cursed-
Got 3rd unique voltaic staff in..20 minutes?
Like I get it game, but I don't need it

[keen dagger]

yeah that seems great

[keen dagger]

hmm even buying a couple uniques my merc still took just under 2 hours to beat a1 normal

rampart raptor definitely not the fastest levelling unique

[strong sierra]

Finally got my first div orb

[strong sierra]

Lol make that two

[knotty glacier]

I'm up to 7s, nearly a hundred item find, haven't seen any

[strong sierra]

Both of mine came from normal mob drops

[knotty glacier]

What, just doing normal campaign stuff, or ?>

[strong sierra]

Non-magic, non-rare enemies in maps

[knotty glacier]

Right ,taht's what i figured, but what diff are your maps at?

[strong sierra]

Those were in 6s

[knotty glacier]

Lucky you then!

[strong sierra]

The second one was a bit of a wild ride because the waystone alone had 118% IIR

[keen dagger]

i got up to level 80 and tier 9-10 maps with my witch then made an alt because maps are too rippy and you lose too much progress when you die rn

[fervent raptor]

so there's definitely some broken interaction with Flicker

[fervent raptor]

ignoring the negative damage my flicker is doing:

[fervent raptor]

bought these for 1ex and slammed the life

feels good

[knotty glacier]

Nice!

I'm a little annoyed a death effect blew me up after a breach ended when i'd already cleared the mpa, but.. i kept hte map progress

andi dindt loose any really notable loot

but still. grump

also i'm choosing to belive DIvine orbs dont exist, i'm headed toward t10s and sitll havnet seen one XD

...and i'm getting t11 maps dropping from t8s, so you know

i'm doing something right on my luck

[strong sierra]

To reply back to this, because I forgot. I have a reflex against runewords because of all the farming I did back in the day (I've still never seen a Zod rune drop), but if GGG were to implement runewords they'd have to rebalance the power of the runes and also how many sockets gear can have, because 2 sockets (ignoring the 3 socket corrupt result) leaves very little room for complex rune words.

[knotty glacier]

Oh for sure. In my head the way i'd do it is let gear have more sockets (or maybe just the chest piece?), and keep the existing runes that are in the game, dont add any super rare runes or things. They're just one of those oh this is neat things i really enjoy

[strong sierra]

Also rune words with soul cores

[knotty glacier]

`Yesss, yesssssssssss

[strong sierra]

Also, lets be honest, its GGG these would be whole new items to socket in

[fervent raptor]

So it turns out Lifesprig is one of those items that scales a skill with ilvl, which in turn increases the level requirement

You can get a twink Lifesprig but they're like 1d lol

There's also another low level wand, Sanguine Diviner, that gives 80-100% inc spell damage

At the cost(?) of turning 25% of your mana cost into life cost instead

[knotty glacier]

Heeey, first divine orb from a t9 map

[strong sierra]

Congratulations!

[knotty glacier]

Ugh. Mapping def has feel bad moments when you just get blwon up suddnely (That spike attack from a breach rare, whcih i couldnt see comming. hit me and i just died ;.;)

Oh well, is what it is.

[strong sierra]

I feel like Extra Content enemies are overturned

[knotty glacier]

I honestly think the entire map expreince is well, borked right now

it's rpetty crazy you only start seeing breech splinters at level 10+ maps

and it's very demotating to see "oh, youi need 300 of these"

[fervent raptor]

oh you can't dual wield wands

popcorn unearth is a p good starting witch build

[knotty glacier]

Popcorn unearth?

[fervent raptor]

minion instability + infernal legion

you raise the lil skellys, they burn to death and explode

[knotty glacier]

Aww, adorable

[fervent raptor]

oh wow it combos incredibly well with Gas Arrow

[knotty glacier]

Got fucking one shot in floor 4 of trials, absoloute bullshit 😦

not even one shot of honor, just all my hp evaptorted. shoudltn ahve taken the no energy shield i guess, but also arrrgh

[keen dagger]

how much life did you have after losing all your es

[knotty glacier]

1.5k?

I am a squishy ranger 😦

[knotty glacier]

I got the fucker!

He has way too much hp

But i got him

[keen dagger]

when did you drop the token btw?

I got to lvl 80 but I hadn't seen a 10 trial token or a 4 floor barya yet

[knotty glacier]

From a t10 map, iirc.

You can buy them from trade for like 1 exalt

[keen dagger]

oh lmao

I guess you only need 1 or 2

[knotty glacier]

Everything unid'd in tehre i s the loot out of this run

(ignore the obviousyl from maps stuff <.<)

[keen dagger]

horrifying tab

[knotty glacier]

Hey D:

It makes sense most of the time!

I also pulkled like 3 or 4 difernt uniques across the whole thing

[knotty glacier]

You can do more, for challenge runs - every time you beat up the ifnal boss he drops a unique relic. Put the relic in, it gets destoryed, beat the boss with the unique's penalties, and you get a specific unqiue

One of the relcis is do it all on 1 honor >.>

all 4 floors ;.;

[keen dagger]

I think someone here did that

Also could you please turn off ping when replying to me unless I've like... been offline for a while

[knotty glacier]

Oh, will endeovur to rember this, apologies

[keen dagger]

no worries!

[knotty glacier]

Oh, that's a tilter.

random crash to desktop halfway through a trial of chaos

Which kicks you all the way out of hte trail and looses you any loot you'd eanred from bosses

[keen dagger]

wait seriously? you don't just get put to the start of that room?

trial of chaos really is worse in almost every way compared to trial of the sekhemas lmao

[knotty glacier]

yep, you just get kicked out 😦

I actually like both the traisl honestly!

like if hte end game was mroe of htis rougelike goodness, i'd be so down

[keen dagger]

I like sekhemas but I think corruption is dogshit. the mods are annoying to play around and I only like like 2 of the bosses in a game with otherwise great boss fights.

[wild canyon]

Is it bad I want to buy the expensive poe2 edition

I've only fought 2 bosses in my small playtime but I am liking the game

Idk why I couldn't get into PoE 1

[keen dagger]

poe2 plays very differently from poe1

[grizzled hamlet]

Wasd
So much of it is wasd

I was at a friend's recently and after showing me his poe 2 char he switched to poe 1
And started cursing the movement right away

[knotty glacier]

no! I'm actually putitng money aside to eventually upgrade to the THaumturgist of vbaal one. So i can have currency for stash tabsd etc <.<

[rustic grotto]

WASD does a lot for PoE2

I've kinda slid off it for the moment but I do miss it when playing PoE1 or LE

[orchid yacht]

Finished Act 2 !
Loved the vibe of the Maraketh, personally a bit weaker at the very end, didn't like the Boss that much

And now,|| to my favourite faction from poe1||

Also in a bit of a draught when it comes to skills..a lot of stuff I need for my witch is Skill Level 12 or something, so the very end of it
Not much in the middle levels from 8 to 12

[knotty glacier]

4 floors of trials can be decently rewarding

(not including all tehn currecny found)

[fervent raptor]

so Bone Storm is a bit good

[hidden heron]

Could use some more bones

[fervent raptor]

sad I missed the penultimate shot

should probably has some kind of little minion just to take advantage of the debuff bonestorm gives

[hidden heron]

It debuffs too? Dang

[fervent raptor]

Debuffed enemies take (5–163) to (7–245) additional Physical damage from next Attack

so the idea is you have attacking minions to consume the debuff

I applied 61 stacks I think over the course of that clip?

[strong sierra]

What the fuck GCPs drop in act one?!

[fervent raptor]

p sure basic currency drops everywhere

[fervent raptor]

on second thoughts it only consumes 1 debuff per attack

so maybe utility flamewall/srs just for more damage?

man ggg spoke a big game about trying to make mandatory story beats not tedious for replays

and then act2.jpg

[keen dagger]

bone storm is amazing for bossing when you get jt

I didn't really get to experience the count geonor fight until my current run with merc on normal because normal witch had bonestorm. cruel witch had frost wall comet hijinx.

[fervent raptor]

my only problem rn is I'm not sure whats best for clear

[orchid yacht]

Bonestorm is wonderful in any way you use it, either by assisting with minion debuff or main source of gmg

[orchid yacht]

What lvl are you rn?

[fervent raptor]

only 18

[orchid yacht]

You can still go with chaos dmg
Or with minions, use Arsonist big boom

Once you unlock Corpse Explosion tho, oh boy

[keen dagger]

you can bonestorm for clear if you have power siphon

[orchid yacht]

I wouldn’t go for the power siphon route, too much investment, little payoff

[fervent raptor]

unearth is pretty okay actually

[keen dagger]

yeah when you get 5 or 6 of those little guys they really tear shit up

[knotty glacier]

I need to figure out how to really max out an incenriate stormwaever. Pretty sure there's somethign in using Incernate and Firestorm in combo, but i'm not high enough to get firestorm yet

[fervent raptor]

oh what the fuck

Scattershot makes every stage of Bonestorm give 3 projectiles

[strong sierra]

Oh god

[fervent raptor]

I thought it would be like "oh you start with 3 at the first stage and then +1 per stage from there"

[keen dagger]

hell yeah

[fervent raptor]

so

chain or fork?

[keen dagger]

bonestorm?

[knotty glacier]

Oh shit, i'm jealous!

That's worth a divine btw

[fervent raptor]

nah, it's the trade site being shit

GGG need to like, manually update the relative value of orbs??

[knotty glacier]

Well, everyone on the trade site is selling that for a divine, so... 😛

[fervent raptor]

yeah it's because the site thinks 1 divine is like, 5 ex

if you change the buyout price filter to Exalted you'll see a lot of things are cheaper

i.e this ring cost me 20ex

[knotty glacier]

...

Well

Now i know, i guess!

[fervent raptor]

it's a problem they've had before when the relative value of currency has risen dramatically - it's usually fine for most things because they know roughly what an orb should be, but obv with this being a very new economy and staff being of on holiday...

[knotty glacier]

ahh

Rip!

Wait, it actually costs me mana to cast stuff with cast on ingite? RUDE

This discovery brought to you by my mana bar vanishing as fireballs went everywhere

(Cast on ignite is still very good with Incinerate it turns out)

[fervent raptor]

there was a league back a while ago where sextants I think skyrocketed in value and then everything on the trade site was being listed for sextants; because the site thought sextants were worth a lot less than they were, it was displaying those listings ahead of chaos listings and massively inflating the real price of things

[solar vigil]

I feel like they should just tie it to the price of ex to divs on the currency exchange

[knotty glacier]

I wish ember fullisade would just fire the moment it hit full, rather tahn deleting hte oldest orb

it'd be a lot more fun if it just auto-machine gunned

[keen dagger]

the in game currency exchange is legit great.

[fervent raptor]

yeah given how much data they must have on real-time currency values I'm not sure why the trade site doesn't utilise it

[keen dagger]

I accidentally almost made a bad deal cus the rate got better while I was setting up the trade and it gave me a warning that I was screwing myself

[knotty glacier]

Side note, i'm real excited to see Huntress hit live

She and spears look real interesting

and i wanna see what her asendies look like

(Honestly, one reason i'm really digging this game is not only is there a bunch of good content already, but it's got EVEN FUCKING MORE coming)

[keen dagger]

which classes are coming next again?

[solar vigil]

druid and huntress are probs next

[knotty glacier]

Those are the nearest to completion

As side, funny note: I am friends with the brother of chris wilson XD

And have been since high school <.<

THis has totally failed to yield any interesting nisghts into poe, but it is amusing to me

[fervent raptor]

Ring: Equipped

currently on chain, I'll try fork afterwards

[knotty glacier]

I did see a really funny Sorc build that used that ring on chain with Emeber fulli

Result? Bouncing fireball death drones.

lemme see if i can dig it up

[knotty glacier]

https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile2builds/comments/1hi3xp9/ember_fusilladeflameblast_storm_showcaselooking/

[keen dagger]

Druid is Str/Int right?

[fervent raptor]

yeah, Templar alt

[keen dagger]

nice. I feel like blood witch will be lots better once there are some str/int skills lol

[knotty glacier]

Liokewise, i htink it'll help out elmeentalist builds in general to have a few more things to throw around

[fervent raptor]

more auras, meta gems

beast mode

[knotty glacier]

pffthahaha.

didnt even see the rare

just heard my sorc yell DIE FORGOTTEN

[fervent raptor]

I actually think fork is doing more work for me

[knotty glacier]

https://old.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1homtq1/citadels_are_not_random_spawns_you_have_to_follow/

This is wild

COrpses may point to citadels, skeletons may point to unique maps

"To summarise; mummified corpses on top of towers may point to citadels. Partial skeletons may point to unique maps like the paradise."

[keen dagger]

WHAT

lmao

[strong sierra]

What

[knotty glacier]

I hope it's true, I love this kinda crap in games

[knotty glacier]

I hope it's true, I love this kinda crap in games

[prime spruce]

Poe 1 has done this sort of thing in the campaign, like corpses pointing the direction for act 8 Grain Gate

So it wouldn't surprise me if this was a thing

[solar vigil]

Fair warning, some people are getting hacked. Change your passwords. https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/s/QCxPNRRk1D

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/s/wJF5QTHFYW

[orchid yacht]

Login trought steam is also affected?

[solar vigil]

Not sure

[solar vigil]

Probs change your password anyways

[orchid yacht]

Thanks for the headsup

Did some reading and it seems it's linked to the actual PoE account, either trought a vulnerability or a wrong login bug.
Overwolf seems to be a common denominator on those account, so it might be a vulnerability too

[knotty glacier]

Also seems to be linked to a overlay

[orchid yacht]

ye, that one, it's called Overwolf

it mainly used to show item prices

[knotty glacier]

Ah, sorry, I'd just woken up and missed you had said that.

Yeah, for all that everyone's freaking out the overlay seems to be the thing at fault.

[orchid yacht]

Quick question, is ailment treshold the game version to resistance to ailments?

cause I don't much care for mana regen, if poison kills me quickly

[knotty glacier]

I thiiink it is?

tbh, i'd just take whatever you care about

like, it's beta.

[orchid yacht]

ye, thought about it too

we're here to play around, and not think too much

[knotty glacier]

Yup.

[orchid yacht]

ty

[knotty glacier]

It's why i'm not stressing on stuff like mapping having isuses

an d hoenstly kinda side eyeing the people huistling the eocnomy etc

it's uh

creepy

Oh, side note, while mapping i found a super cool map i've never seen before

it was a versio nof the Vaal cannals, but at night, with all the water jet black and still as a mirror, with the moon relfecitng in it

[fervent raptor]

Fwiw I don't think Ailment Threshold does anything to stop Bleed or Poison, as they apply on a flat chance

It's going to be Freeze, Shock and Ignite which have a scaling chance to apply based on the damage vs ailment thresholds

[orchid yacht]

Uh, still decent
For poison is chaos resistance I gather

[fervent raptor]

Poison is a chaos dot against your life

[orchid yacht]

rolling high on life for my items, we'll slow it down at least

[knotty glacier]

The amount of begging for help on boss fihgts i see is kinda shocking

[ember nimbus]

I’m saddened by it, but not shocked. POE fans have been so used to excel spreadsheet’ed through the game that when bosses that have deigns based around movement and build based positioning it cracks the “click buffs to win strategy”

To be fair they still need a buff drop rates and other things but I was impressed by how solid the game has been thus far

[fervent raptor]

I think that's somewhat unfair - I think people mostly just haven't adjusted to the idea that bosses are actually challenging now, especially with builds that excel in mapping but don't have the sustain or ST for bosses

And maybe just the mindset that yes, you can have a character dedicated to boss killing and swap between characters as needed

[strong sierra]

orbs

[solar vigil]

I’m hearing people say there’s a phishing copy of the poe 2 trade site

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/Dxsyt8iuO2

[orchid yacht]

Jeez it's a very complicated issue

A lot of problems for just an early access, all cause someone wanted to trade items

what I still don't get is,
Is an account on the official site needed to play? or you can just delete it and login trough steam normally

[prime spruce]

You need the account I'm pretty sure

[strong sierra]

Steam counts for the account

[wild canyon]

they don't have 2FA?

POE has been around for over a decade now right?

[strong sierra]

Nope

[orchid yacht]

ye, no, it seems people asked for it but nop

[orchid yacht]

ooh. thanks, I thought having steam would split it into two accounts

[knotty glacier]

Per the devs: implenting 2FA would be easy. Implenmnting soloution to people getting locked out of their own accounts for fucking up 2FA = very hard

[wild canyon]

no?

you just

set a 5 minute lockout timer + notification

the only thing I would argue is it can be expensive

[knotty glacier]

I'm just quoting what they've said!

[wild canyon]

I know 😭

[knotty glacier]

...

Huh

I found a unqiue map called 'Moment of Zen"

and got a free unique woirth one divine out of it

[strong sierra]

Hell yea

I just got to the midway point in act 3 on my staff stormweaver

I'm having a lot more fun with staff skills

[keen dagger]

This time could definitely be improved upon. I had to do a zone twice cus pizza guy showed up. I had to do 2nd trial twice because I died on the boss & I did a couple quests which don't give an essential reward (advancement / resist buff / skill points)

I think I could make 12-14 hours self found once I figure out levelling skills and supports and probably 8-9 hours pregeared

[knotty glacier]

Woo, found an amy ring, threw an orb of chance of it, got a relaly good Ming's heart out of it

ofc the odds i just fucking explode are even higher now 😄

[strong sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeXml_5AlDA I have...opinions on this

[fervent raptor]

Probably the ring getting the bat

HoI is nice but not nuts without it

And honestly they've already fucked over the heralds I'd really like for them to not get worse

[knotty glacier]

Oh gods, i feel like i'm playing rocket tag

Putting ming's heart on gave me an extra 1k dps.

I went from 3.5kish to 4.5kish

otoh i only have 1.2k hp and 180 ES. (and 79% evasion with Acrobatics, so onlyu 21% of stuff gets to hit me)

fff

I just relaizedi 'd managed to unsepc one of he ES nodes , so now i'm back up to 380 ES

which is a lot better

[keen dagger]

how often do you pop

[knotty glacier]

I don't have a good estimate for that

I need better resistances, none of mine are capped. Kinda screwed because I'm relying on gear for stats, which makes having space for resistances hard

[keen dagger]

wait what level are you without capped resists? are you self found?

[keen dagger]

Decided to do 1 more map before bed. Picked an overleveled rare with crit chance / chaos damage threat mods with extra transcendant packs (the guys from black chambers). Rolled the absolute most brutal set of enemies, vile vultures, akh shamans, antlion chargers, vaal axemen, lightning wraiths, rhoa chargers. I thought I was the one with good off screen potential.

[orchid yacht]

You changed build
And the game took it personally

[knotty glacier]

I'm 85ish? On t13s, not self found

[fervent raptor]

god this skill is bananas

almost entirely just uniques

[keen dagger]

what are you using? how do you have any resists

[fervent raptor]

still just campaign and I don't lol

head and gloves are entirely replaceable

[knotty glacier]

What skill is it?

[fervent raptor]

and boots

Bonestorm still

[knotty glacier]

Ahh

THE BONESTORM IS COMING!

Help i'm made of paper except i dodge near everything

[knotty glacier]

in early took down Trialmaster, but i fucked up moving and got squsiehd at liek 20%$ of his hp left, RIP

More annoyd that that flushed like 40 exalted down the drain (Since getting hte keys arent cheap) than anything else, but it's a fun fight

[knotty glacier]

Side note, that level of evasion is WITH acrobatics, so, you know, lol

[keen dagger]

IMO you should spend like 30 div to get 2000 ES with the same amount of evasion. Hope that helps.

[knotty glacier]

stare

[keen dagger]

More seriously ES with Acrobatics seems like a really strong end game mitigation solution.

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, i'm just not sure how to stack up more of it right now.

[keen dagger]

You anoint that 60% es node for sure because that's way too far away

[knotty glacier]

Which node is that?

Oh, patient barrier

[keen dagger]

Yeah

[knotty glacier]

Problem with that.

it requires Suffering, Isolation, Fear.

Distilled Isolation is 500 ex alone 😛

[keen dagger]

Jesus christ it was 60 last time I looked and decided it was too expensive

anyway this falls in line of my recommendation to spend 30 div so it stands.

[knotty glacier]

Pfft.

This is actually a really nice defensive layer.

Rain with Culling, Maim, Blind, & Pin socketed in it.

Just a hail of "and fucccckkkk yoooou"

[fervent raptor]

I've just seen the animation for Hexblast

https://tenor.com/view/look-how-they-massacred-my-boy-godfather-sad-cry-hurt-gif-16433641

[ember nimbus]

Do we have a roadmap on updates for POE2 like when new classes added at least? I know acts probably not happening tell release.

[knotty glacier]

Nope! Druid and Huntress are "Soon"

As they were very near c ompeltion

[ember nimbus]

Yeah I figured Druid was coming first

Consider a lot of armors/energy shield based gear I was thinking that they might surprise drop new Templar

[knotty glacier]

Druid is also Str/Int

Huntress is probably quite close too, as there's a bunch of her spears in the game already, that drop sometimes

just with INCOMPLETE on them

I imagine calsses are a general priority to get in, just because there's a bunch of testing that needs to be done with various interactions

[fervent raptor]

ES doesn't work on poison

[knotty glacier]

This is the sort of thing i expect will change, and changer drascitally as things go on

(also, sorry, didnt mean to leave the @ on)

[keen dagger]

iirc poison magnitude is based on how much damage it does to your hp so es kinda does help because chaos hits still respect es

it's definitely an exaggeration but it's not really off the mark that es is wildly strong compared to evasion and especially armour

[fervent raptor]

armour sure, eva is still good

[knotty glacier]

See, cosnesus i've seen is that evasion is currently the strongest defence, because it can just flat out avoid most everything

But it is, Complicated, TM

[fervent raptor]

top right is definitely the best place to be for defenses

to quote someone that makes some great builds in the poe server:

specifically for defenses

[keen dagger]

yup

my armour evasion merc is doing great generally but can't do ritual because he needs room to breathe

and a pile of close range hits against 40% arm/Eva is death

[knotty glacier]

I'm just not srrssing too much about these things. Like it's icky etc, but it's early acess

hopefulyl stuff will cahnge

i'm expecitng that givne it's public holidays till friday this week, we might see a "here's changes we're looking at" on Friday NZT

And probaly next week there'll be anotehr big patch

[keen dagger]

I'm not really expecting another big patch for 2 weeks

but yeah I'm not fussed about it cus the game is still extremely fun despite some very rough edges.

[fervent raptor]

honestly I think max es% is maybe a touch too liberal on the tree haha

p sure I'm going to end up with +303%

with the +70% helmet notable a 1ex 350es helmet would give me 1655 max

[keen dagger]

completely reasonable

yeah es/acro is definitely the place to be

[slow jasper]

Yeah there are some big es nodes around

And I think the biggest evasion I've seen is +20%

[knotty glacier]

There's a +100% evasion node, but the moment you get hit it becomes -30%

[slow jasper]

Oof, nah

[knotty glacier]

Yeah.

That said, there's some good ones, and the way evasion works stacking up to 80% or so seems to be really strong.

(My understanding is there is an entropy system, and you will eventually get hit - but it also stops you from getting chain hit. Which is why I generally only ever die to really big hits or ground effects that don't care)

[knotty glacier]

@slow jasper Probably the single best evasion node is Bestial Skin, which is +100% evasion from equipped body armor. Given you can get body armor with 2.4k Evasion...

[slow jasper]

Yeah

[knotty glacier]

eeey, up to t14s

[keen dagger]

spent my first div

[keen dagger]

gz. have you found any citadels yet?

wait what

[knotty glacier]

I haave not

gfdi, i keep forgetting to turn @s off

[keen dagger]

also this skill is amazing for breach holy shit

everything in a breach is a) close together and b) a demon

[strong sierra]

I wish I could be more good better

[knotty glacier]

what's giving you grief?

[strong sierra]

Just general clear speed

[knotty glacier]

What's y our build/what are you trying to do?

[strong sierra]

Right now I'm on my quarterstaff using stormweaver

[knotty glacier]

ah, i dont really know a lot about that approach

Myi mrpession is quarterstaves can do some shit ,but it invovles Pillar and stat stacking

[strong sierra]

Because I'm kinda unhappy with my archmage chronomancer

[knotty glacier]

Ouch, i got scyth'd. (I did some more researhc on my build and tldr: I can get more surviablity, but i basically would need that crazy stat amulet, or some REALLY good breach rings with a ton of stats on them to be able to have the int (and ideally the dex) required.

[strong sierra]

Because seeing videos of people clearing screens in a single hit makes me sad

[knotty glacier]

tbh, i dont expect that to last! \

[strong sierra]

It still feels like I'm doing something wrong by not being able to immediately blow things up though

[knotty glacier]

I mean, yeah at a certain point ocmapring yoruself to others is just gonna end badly

esp to crazy overtuend meta builds with 100s of divines of gear

[strong sierra]

Its not even that, I'm struggling with T7s

On my original character anyway

[knotty glacier]

That may just be a gearing issue then

Or your build may need tweaking on nodes taken, etc

[strong sierra]

It may be a gearing thing but it just doesn't feel effective

[knotty glacier]

Well, what;'s thge combo you're trying to do?

what are you trying to put together to murderize things, how are you supporting that with passives?:

[strong sierra]

Well on my chronomancer the original idea was to use lightning conduit

[knotty glacier]

So you want a 1-2 way to apply shock, then consume shock

Seems to me the big hting goinf for you with going Stormweaver is either the Exposure booster, or if you can get to 8 skill points, the two "All dmaage contributes to chill" & all damage contributes to shock nodes

[strong sierra]

WEll that character is a chronomancer

[knotty glacier]

Sure, but you can leverage that idea still

[strong sierra]

The big problem is lightning conduit takes too long to cast

[knotty glacier]

Combat Frenzy in conjuciton with Resonance seems liek a combo to be aware of

Tradtioanlly the answer there is to tie it to a CAst on X

Cast on Shock should stil lactualyl be good in combo with Stormweaver's "I can shock you twice" asecdnacy node

[strong sierra]

Yea but on my chronomancer I don't have access to that

[knotty glacier]

Kikto's current would claso give you a defensive layer

Sure, but we're talking about your stormweaver right now, no?

[strong sierra]

Well right now I was messing with quarterstaff stuff on my stormweaver

Also I still need to get that character to maps

[knotty glacier]

Okay. So it's your chronomancer who's sstuck?

[strong sierra]

Yea.

[knotty glacier]

iirc, Chrono isnt oging to clear *fast8 ,but can do some excellent bullshit via abusing auras and being tough as nails

Notably, cosnider taking Blapshmey, gemming in the -element aura of your choice AND temporal chains. (obvs, you will need to spec Whispers of DOom here)

Then take the chronomancer nodes that make shit slow down for getting near you

[strong sierra]

Those gloves are real nice.

[knotty glacier]

You arent going to be the most kilyl bitch, but you're sure going to beo ne of the tankiest motherfuckers on the field with that combo

And who cares about cast time if everything's slow as molasses?

[strong sierra]

means I won't need to socket electrocute support.

[keen dagger]

ah yes, the two genders

[strong sierra]

Now to try to get a pair of those gloves.

[knotty glacier]

Also there's Lighting Quick and a few other nodes that'll help out

@strong sierra Hang on, lemme check my stash

Yup, i have a set 🙂

[strong sierra]

I'll give you an ex for them

[knotty glacier]

drumroll that's exactly what they're worth!

Kooye is my char's in game name

Uh, try again, i hit accept and nothing ahppend

There we go

[strong sierra]

I gotta figure out blasphemy support now since I'll not be able to have archmage support equipped

[knotty glacier]

I kidna wish i;'d rolled hcorno for my incinerate gal, but hey

Stormweaver still has Guud stuff ofr her

(Also doyu have your 4th asecnday yet on your chrono?)

[strong sierra]

No

[knotty glacier]

Not rihgtn ow, because iam tired as shit

but later on, i'll let you know when i'm doing a run on the tirals again

and you can join the party and chill when it's boss timez

because ican reliably kil lteh last boss rpretty easily now

'es a bit of a wimp

[strong sierra]

I still feel really vulnerable when casting lightning conduit

[knotty glacier]

Dunno! Without actually sitting down and building stuff out myself, I'm not sure what to suggest

[strong sierra]

Bleh I'd have to go amulet shoppign too now

I think part of it is th at I don't have that much recoup

[knotty glacier]

There's some powerful recoup nodes pretty early

Loose flesh & taught flesh

[keen dagger]

recoup is kind of dogshit imo?

8 seconds is way too long

[strong sierra]

That's why its only 3 seconds for me

[keen dagger]

oh right chronomancer can actually make it almost good. make it two seconds and you have a deal

[strong sierra]

Also I just don't seem to actually recoup big hits

[knotty glacier]

There does seem to be something buggy there. I'm not sure my ghost shrouds are actually working any more

Hard to tell

[strong sierra]

?????????

[knotty glacier]

I either kill everything, or a crit gets through and that's game over. Which is honestly kinda funny

[strong sierra]

I just got oneshot randomly

[knotty glacier]

The way map modifiers can stack that will happen

[strong sierra]

It wasn't even that spicy of a map, it just had rarity and armored enemies

Ok things are going a bit smoother now

I might of had too much mana regen allocated on the tree

[strong sierra]

Because I was running archmage

[keen dagger]

this is going so much better than my first character lol

already doing t12 maps

[fervent raptor]

*chuckles* I'm in danger

[fervent raptor]

lol got the boss kill here this time

what's a "dps check" fight?

[fervent raptor]

nice -4000 honour for entering a room :)

[knotty glacier]

Damn, that's a lot of honor!

I go through with like 3k XD

But it's enough to beat up even the floor 4 boss, so i'm chill

[fervent raptor]

had all my ES removed

[knotty glacier]

...ooof.

Oh, big tip for anyone wanting to make Trials way easier

hop on the trade site. Look for Rug or Vase relics (3 slot horiztonal/3 slot vertical respecitvley) that have +merhcant choices. +2 merchant choices go for an ex.

Even just one of those stacked with as much honor resistance as you can grab makes Sekehmas way, way easier

just spend Floor 1 getting as much sacred water and merchants as you can

and then buy all teh good boons - See more rooms, 50% more damage, 30% less boss hp, 40% more movespeed...

Anyway! I should be around for awhile today

if anyone wnats help with their 4th asecndancy, i am planning on going and puinching the boss at somepoint today

so gimme a shout

[strong sierra]

How the fuck are people getting 5 digit values for ES

[knotty glacier]

There are so many ES buffs.

[knotty glacier]

Like just going right on the tree can get you +10x2, +15%x2, +30% and +28%. and that's in teh first seven nodes

and then you can grab stuff like the HEavy Buffer & Illuminated Crown circle, Patient Barrier

[strong sierra]

Oh is there some funky multiplication happening?

[knotty glacier]

Melding and Inisghtifulness are right next to the first seven, it's insane

I mean, probably? accoridng ot the game my raw evasion is over 30k.

I do not have 30k evasion on my stats.

Er, gear*

[strong sierra]

Ugh I need to go back to building school I think

[knotty glacier]

Maybe!

This is your chronomancer?

What level are they?

[strong sierra]

78

[knotty glacier]

And you're doing lighting skills with some aura supporit, yeah?

[strong sierra]

Yes

I'm going off memory right now because I'm at work

[knotty glacier]

Ah

I cannot figure out how to share what i threw togther

This is super thrown togther, there's porobalby at on of room for improvement

(For instance, investing into spell crit and the various nodes, etc)

oh, and you really wnat the Drenched node.

[strong sierra]

Oh God I just found out that ghostwrithe is converting health BEFORE CI

[knotty glacier]

ahahahahahahahaha

amazing

[strong sierra]

I can post images and such when I'm home though

Which is in roughly 2 hours

[fervent raptor]

My witch is running 303% es on the tree, plus there's 70% additional from helmet and I think 155% from focus?

400es helmet becomes 1900, 270 focus becomes 1500

A 900es chest is a couple divines and would give me 3600, for 7k total from those three pieces

Gloves and boots add more, and then I'm sure there's more good ES nodes on the tree, jewels and amulet for more max%

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, there's a lot., i relaly wish i could grab more easily

because i just pop like a balloon currently if a rare looks at me too funny

Which can make t15 maps a bit "siiigh"

[fervent raptor]

Are you running Grim Feast at all?

[knotty glacier]

I am not, i'm using ghost shroud. I might need to swap it out for Grim ffeast

the problem is more getitng one shot - if something strong enough makes it through my evasion, i just explode

It is what it is.

There's nto really good ways to fix it that i can see without getting a necklace that costs over 100 divines 😄

(Basically, i'm stat-choked quite badly - I'deally i'd have high ES boots and Helmet. But thsoe require lots of int, whic h icantget AND have lots of dex for my pathfinder shit. So the ideal sololution would be the STellar amulet unique that givesl ike 80 to all stats minium. which is 100 divines or so, and ya know ,that's not happening)

It is what it is what it is

I'mma just keep working on my stormweave,r probably r oll up a chronomancer soon, maybe try a withc too

it's not like there's a lack of game to fuck with!

I may also need to figure out respeceing some stuff to get more ES nodes and give up on some damage, it's ahrd to say.

[knotty glacier]

https://old.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hq7nqq/a_true_insight_into_real_poe2_magic_find_and_the/

Okay so this is memeing, but the video does have me laughing

The dancing crabs are very good

[strong sierra]

Am home

Ready to see the mess that is my passive tree?

[fervent raptor]

That sure does have branches

[knotty glacier]

You absolotuey made choices.

@strong sierra https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile2builds/comments/1hqotww/ball_lightning_cast_on_shock/

This build seems relevant to your interests

it also has a bunch of passive tree advice etc you can look at

it is made for a stormweaver, not a chrono, but you should be able to twake the core of it and adjust

[strong sierra]

OH Good to know that the shocked ground ALSO applies the exposure if on LW

Wait

Why does LC have Overcharge on it?

[knotty glacier]

Biggest takeay i'd ahve is you should look at the defensive layering via the Chaos Inoc + MoM + Eldritch Battery combo (This does really need you to get Midnight briad & Everlasting gaze, but these are very cheap)

I dunno!

UIt's probably because nothing is stopping LC from triggeirng shock itself

[strong sierra]

Well, LC can't shock though

[knotty glacier]

In that case i have no idea

it's entirely possible that it's drumroll a mistake!

anyway, gotta do some shit, back in a bit

[strong sierra]

Mmm this is good

OH I'm so close to the energy gain break point

I'll have to go jewel shopping

[knotty glacier]

Build's working for you then? 🙂

[strong sierra]

I'm having a lot more fun with this

[knotty glacier]

Yay! I'm glad to have helped 🙂

also, fwiw, conseus opiniion i've seen is that Chrono is slept on - it doesnt have the big Numby of Stormweaver, but it's sheer utiltiy is unmatched, and it's got a ton of good tricks

[strong sierra]

Ugh, the jewel combo I want is going to be expensive

Because I want meta skills and shock magnitude

ARG

I'm 5% off

OH god this is o much better

Its better wtih monster density too

[knotty glacier]

Glad to hear it, Creator 🙂

[keen dagger]

alright alright we get it geez

[knotty glacier]

Greathelm: Better than you.

[keen dagger]

you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

[slow jasper]

helm: greater than you

[strong sierra]

Yea this CoS build is so much better for me

I do dislike one specific map though

[keen dagger]

is it slick?

[strong sierra]

No I love Slick

[keen dagger]

I love it until it's full of vile vultures

[strong sierra]

No its Augury that I hate

[strong sierra]

I wonder if I should keep that presence slow

[keen dagger]

Yeah Augury does stink

I can't believe the lever pull animation is uninteruptable

[fervent raptor]

god Spark is kinda nuts

not the fastest thing in the world but I'm using it to clear with no damage links and no +levels on my wand

[strong sierra]

WEll th at's a wand

[knotty glacier]

Oh damn

that is probably worth a happy chunk

[fervent raptor]

CoC Det Dead is a rare pack destroyer lol

[knotty glacier]

Cast on Crit?

[fervent raptor]

yeah

[knotty glacier]

Where's our cast on curse.

[fervent raptor]

bonestorm nails a minion which then explodes the rare

[strong sierra]

Hey let me know if you get any jewels that have meta energy on them

[knotty glacier]

cough I have them and yo ucant >.>

(Because they'rfe in my sorc already <.<)

If you want jewles, no joke, Sekehma is good

[strong sierra]

Man I just lost a greater jewelers orb because I died with no warning

[strong sierra]

What level do time-lost jewels start dropping?

[keen dagger]

poedb says 20

[strong sierra]

Also I'm a derp and completely forgot about gem quality

[knotty glacier]

I believe you get them from floor 3 or floor 4 of Sekema - it's possible for a gold chest to spawn as a time lost chest

[strong sierra]

It's amazing how much of a difference gem quality makes

[keen dagger]

some of the quality bonuses in this game are immense

[knotty glacier]

This isnt like top of the line or anything

but it's actually quite good?

[hidden heron]

That's three warrior-type uniques so far, as a ranger I am thoroughly insulted

[keen dagger]

thats very nice

If it had + int base and affix it would be kinda goated

[knotty glacier]

It's a solid upgrade for my ranger.\

[keen dagger]

that's why I was saying a big int bonus would be nice

just spent a divine orb 300k gold and 40ex to respect my character

Basically did no damage to the sekhema trial boss mo matter how I finagled my skills so swapped to something with better single target

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, i had to tweak my attributes a bit, but i maanged to get it equipped

[knotty glacier]

Oof.

Arrgh, sorry about the ats

I just leave it on habitually becuase I like having the @s at me >.>

Anyway, i've gone from having 1.2khp and 400ish energy shield to having... still 1.2k hp, but i have 1.3k energy shield

[keen dagger]

he has so much fucking hp it took me almost 5 minutes to get to phase 2 and then I died in the stupid time trial phase

[keen dagger]

lmao that's a pretty good increase.

[knotty glacier]

So i should blow up a whole lot less now!

[keen dagger]

are you still using mostly pure evasion gear?

[knotty glacier]

I just switched my headpiece for an Int es piece.

because with subetage mask i still get a ton of evasion from that

[keen dagger]

sabotage mask?

[keen dagger]

oh yeah that's solid

I'm using all Str/Dex gear except gloves cus there's a 1:1 armour on gloves -> evasion node

I feel like eventually you probably want to be all eva/es except hat and body because of that passive and the one that doubles your body armour evasion (insane node btw)

[knotty glacier]

Oh, i already have it

Messy skill tree, i could probably improve some of the routing a bit

but it works pretty well overall

I could save like 1 or 2 skill points with some routing changes actually, but it's also a bit eh, whatever

because those are still providng stats i need

[keen dagger]

that routing into the dex/int definitely makes me cringe looking at it but no idea what those actually do

and yeah you can save 1 pt easy by respecting the 3 travel nodes on the straight line out from the dex int start to 2 nodes on the outer highway

[knotty glacier]

Which nodes in the dex int are you talkinga bout?

[keen dagger]

forgot I can just do this

[knotty glacier]

Oh, right

anywa,y the dex int nodes in the monk part near the start are a bunch of evasion/energy shield stuff, and some nice +5/5 nodes iwth other useful bonsues

the U shape is giving me evasion on body armor becomes energy shield

[keen dagger]

lmao bought a new belt for 5ex. used 1 ex on it. +2 charm slots it's now a 2 div belt

life/str/armour/chaosres/charm/junk with flask charge/sec base

[knotty glacier]

Hey, first ever lvl 19 skill gem!

Time to make my mana issues EVEN WORSE

Oh, i got two actually, that;'s nice

And yeah, this is kinda crazy just how much more survaibile i am

[keen dagger]

do they only start dropping in t14?

[knotty glacier]

I'm on t15s

[keen dagger]

they only start dropping in t15s? then where do you get level 20 gems lol?

uplevelled t15 bosses ig?

[knotty glacier]

Upleveld t15 bosses and maps, i asusme

l20s are very rare by all reports

[knotty glacier]

Gaahh

wiped out on teh first boss of chaos trials, stupid 3 faced bird

Just got really unlucky and got b ack to back hits

...

wtf it just ate my second offering 😦

[fervent raptor]

Another point saved and a better attribute node

[keen dagger]

you can't do both my change and that change and you lose a jewel node that way is the big issue

[fervent raptor]

? You can do both

[keen dagger]

oh yeah you're right

sorry brain no work

[fervent raptor]

It's cool haha

I was only going to mention changing the right bit over because that's a change I made on my monk - turns 10 attributes into 13

And then I spotted that would allow swapping the left two nodes for just one continuing down

[keen dagger]

it might be shit for zombie tho cus that node can't be int which seems to be their big problem

[fervent raptor]

Only two of the attribute nodes are Int and two of the down nodes are variables

So it should be fine for that

[keen dagger]

yeah I'm sure they can sort it

I'm so glad ggg did away with orbs of regret

[fervent raptor]

If attributes are a real problem I'd probably change the ranger start to take the outside attribute nodes instead of the 3 10% proj nodes

And god yeah fuck regrets

[knotty glacier]

I'll have a fiddle shortly

[knotty glacier]

fff.

I hate hte bird boss in chaos so much 😦

It's killed me twice out of nowhere with it's wing plume attack

[keen dagger]

the one with the baby or the wind one?

[knotty glacier]

Wind one

[keen dagger]

that boss is fucked yeah.

only time I fought it I instantly died to the tornado move which has really poor telegraphing and deals ridiculous damage

[knotty glacier]

He's generally a giant pain, yes. He jumps aroudn too much

[strong sierra]

Do we know when GGG comes back from break?

[keen dagger]

Don't look forward to fighting that on a melee character

[knotty glacier]

Today is Friday the 3rd of Jan in NZ. Next two days are weekend. I'd say after that.

last two days were public holidays

I would expect, at most some sort of dev letter today

Rejiggered things a bit, sacrified 2% evasion and al ittle bit of movespeed, but picked up better mana regen/better skill costs, about the same damage with more hcance to just blind

and my stats are perfectly balanced right now

by which i mean i have exactly enough dex

and 2 more int than i need

[pine wedge]

I would not be surprised if there is a basic bug fixing patch pushed sometime next week.

Also

A massive name and shame post

Because there's be an exploit found that let's you reset items after Vaaling them and retrying

And GGG does not have a high opinion on cheaters

[strong sierra]

If it's the exploit that involves crashing the instance supposedly it was silently fixed

[pine wedge]

Not surprised that got pushed out ASAP

However

For shit like this they have, in the past, done public posts detailing what happened and who did it.

[strong sierra]

Yea. I wonder if they just want to make a big single post

[knotty glacier]

It's a better approach, even if silence is frustrating

[fervent raptor]

Well, breaking silence now would have people going "why aren't you talking about XYZ" when they've likely just had a skeleton crew putting out major fires

[fervent raptor]

one thing I'm very much disliking about the game, although I'm not sure how it would be resolved, is that it's very difficult to see what's walkable and what's not in some tilesets

forest-y ones in particular

[slow jasper]

Honestly, monk has a ton of skills that gapclose

So getting into melee isn't a problem

Staying in melee can be a problem on some bosses

But all the palm strikes, siphon strike and flicker strike all get you too the enemy from range

[fervent raptor]

chat where do I go from here?

do I just start picking up the small crit nodes I've bypassed?

[fervent raptor]

"hmm doing breaches and deli does a number on my mana - I should get a mana on kill jewel"

"oh I dropped one from that breach"

it's actually ntb either

[keen dagger]

jewels seem to be the only item in this game that have more good affixes than useless ones

I was really hoping they'd remove junk affixes from the pool

[fervent raptor]

I'm not really sure there are many junk affixes?

like low tier ones sure, but the stats themselves are generally all useful?

[slow jasper]

Stun threshold seems pretty marginal

[fervent raptor]

jewels kinda cheat that by not rolling a rank

idk not being stunned is super good

I was constantly being stunned until I grabbed more threshold, albeit from the tree and not items

[slow jasper]

You need enough of it to be meaningfully effective, and the moment to moment stun mechanics are opaque

[fervent raptor]

I think bottom left builds are going to want it a fair amount

top builds can grab "es% as stun threshold" and right builds ideally aren't being hit often enough to need it a whole lot

[slow jasper]

Maybe! Ime as a monk I tend to delete packas or die instantly, with very little in between

[fervent raptor]

I might retire Bonestorm

it vapourises my health pool against bosses

swap to the silly det dead brutes

[strong sierra]

This is a nice upgrade

[keen dagger]

whoa. dropped or bought?

[strong sierra]

Bought

[keen dagger]

how much?

I'm imagining 2 div

[strong sierra]

20ex

[keen dagger]

that's a steal

[strong sierra]

Yea I'm stitting at 111% IR now

[keen dagger]

I haven't even bothered stacking iir lmao

been too busy trying to defense max and then I learned that armour is almost worthless and I should have just stacked evasion

[knotty glacier]

100% is what looks to be the go-to amount

For IIR

[strong sierra]

Also finally up in T10 maps

[knotty glacier]

Nice!

[strong sierra]

Wondering when I should replace those gloves

[knotty glacier]

Which gloves are you using?

DT's? Or ?

[strong sierra]

kitoko's

[knotty glacier]

Dunno, honestly.

[strong sierra]

[keen dagger]

what do you need so much mana for

[strong sierra]

Archmage

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, archmage really likes the mana

[strong sierra]

Archmage + Pure Power + Arcane Intensity

WEll, not PP

That's int, but still

[knotty glacier]

You also want the MoM one

MoM and Elddrithc battery (though you need everlasting gaze to really make this work)

HULLO

Oh, boo, it's kinda worthless searching om the market

tears!

[strong sierra]

Yea, charm slots are not good

Also tasty raw div drop

Nice got some 4 floor sekhema attempts

[knotty glacier]

Nice!

the only thing that's hard about the final boss is his hourglass phase

spoilers for how to do it ||At 66% and 33% (Or 60/30, i forget), he spawns a spark in the middle of hte room and goes invincible. run up, touch spark. It spawns a bunch of hourglasses and a clock in the middle of the room. YOu have to grab every hourglass before the clock completes, or it's an instant wipe. Every one you pick slows you down, so draw a line between em , start iwth the furthest away, and go from there). It's honestly not too bad and is pretty free if you can get the +40% movespeed boon||

[keen dagger]

hey charm slots are great if you have 4-5 other great affixes and the life roll is over 100 😛

[knotty glacier]

sigh the one portal per map on logbooks and thingsi such a bummer, esp when an attack kills you off ull hp

Also uuurrrgh, i fucked up enough about doing things iwth my character while i wa fixing my hp, plus a few bad plays, i ran out of t15 maps 😦

[strong sierra]

Sicne this is new in PoE2, what does the tier mean on unidentified items?

[knotty glacier]

It's the quality of the affixs on it

Affixs have multiple possible tiers they can roll, whcih determine the range

eg 1-4 physical damage vs 20-50 physical damage (This is made up)

they go as high as being T5

[strong sierra]

Yea I'm familar with affix tiers, I'm just not used to seeing it show up on an unidentived item

Like this

[keen dagger]

yeah so basically this has at least one affix on it thats a tier below highest rank affix. unfortunately in this case it was life on kill because lol lmao

this is the belt i slammed charm slots on btw

[knotty glacier]

I have many questions.

[knotty glacier]

All the jewels from a run of skehemas, lol

[keen dagger]

that seems profitable

[knotty glacier]

I got a 19% increase E shield one in there

[keen dagger]

nice nice

[hidden heron]

The whole Frenzy Charge system thing in Ranger feels uhm

underbaked a bit

or does it get more added later

[keen dagger]

charges as a whole are generally kind of jank and underwhelming

there are a very few good charge loops you can set up for the amount of stuff that wants it

[fervent raptor]

There's a pretty dumb one for CI monk

Lingering Presence + Minion Pact on your attack

The clone that LP leaves counts as a minion which gets eaten by MP, giving you a power charge (or 2) without needing a corpse or setup

[keen dagger]

yeah there are a few good ones but the majority seem to be incredibly awkward or just not worth it

[knotty glacier]

I've given up on my ranger for now. Just too many frustrating one shots still.

Once was a boss where I fucked up, but it still feels bad to just instantly die, but the actual okay I give up was a carrion vulture jumping from off screen ontop me and that slam instantly taking me from 100 to 0

[keen dagger]

vile vultures are such horse shit

their slam is too fast and too far ranged to do that much damage with a fucking white mob

the wind up happens off screen

[strong sierra]

I've really started to dislike prowling shades

They are proximal tangibility the enemy

[keen dagger]

those things suck but at least they arent dangerous

the epitomy of just walk away lmao

[strong sierra]

At least I'm consistantly doing T13 maps now

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, i lost a b oss map to one literally coming on from off screen and landing on me, and it just went straight though all my evade, es and health. splat

When the answer is just "Don't let anyhting survive to come on acreen" that's frustraitng

[knotty glacier]

I put togther a version of the Ball lighting/LCon build for levleing, and oh, this is way more fun than spark or Incineriate was

[strong sierra]

Well, I'm goign in to F4 Boss with damage immunity

And success

[fervent raptor]

okay what does a merc tree even look like D:

[keen dagger]

doing xbows?

[fervent raptor]

yeah

[keen dagger]

the 2 handed weapon cross is the best cluster in the tree for you. are you gonna go armour/evasion or just go evasion and get acro

[fervent raptor]

OH

it counts as 2h duh

[keen dagger]

yeah

[fervent raptor]

poe1 brain there

probably headd over towards the right more than the bottom

lightning focus by community vote

[keen dagger]

This is my tree, but I'm doing phys so really armour/eva is the only option.

If you go to the right and go for acro I think elemental damage makes more sense. I tried to do full lightning before respeccing to this, but the single target is just not enough for endgame bosses. Clear is excellent though

I have a bombard crossbow weapon setup for nades (green) and a dyad crossbow weapon setup for ammo (red)

[fervent raptor]

cheers, I'll keep it in mind

[keen dagger]

Wind Dancer, Herald of Thunder, and Overwhelming presence are your friends though keeping all max level is impossible. You could maybe pick up the herald reservation nodes and go double herald too.

storm blast bolts stacking into explosive shot into shock burst rounds is pretty great for melting rares and campaign bosses. galvanic shards is goated for clear throughout the entire game

iirc shock burst quality is bugged rn and doesn't actually give the extra ammo

[fervent raptor]

few levels before Galvanic yet but I was eyeing it

shame I cant slap on a leveling xbow and call it a day for a while like spells though haha

[keen dagger]

rampart raptor is not bad for a1

but yeah you do need to change more often

[fervent raptor]

I mean I ran the same wand for like 40 levels on my witch lol

[keen dagger]

luckily if you've been playing spells you probably have a stock of whetstones and artificers

just get phys rolls, quality, make sockets, slam iron runes. g2g

[fervent raptor]

oh actually I could double socket Mist Whisper and drop a couple cold runes

[keen dagger]

spend a few ex on a high dps bow when you hit 50 something and you're good until you're ready to spend a div

will probably be fine for a1 but just keep in mind all the xbow skills work off phys conversion

[keen dagger]

anyway the merc xbow experience is very fun though I didn't find that you combo skills as often as other classes because of the ammo swap time and galvanic shards just handles clear on its own

[strong sierra]

I just cannot seem to keep T15 maps

[keen dagger]

like sustaining stock?

[knotty glacier]

@strong sierra Show me your passive tree?

Atlas pasisve tree, that is

This is what i was using, and it works pretty well

There's also an argument for this

You loose out on # of rares, but gain a bit more item quanity and waystone effects

[keen dagger]

the waystone quant/tier ones are crucial

[knotty glacier]

Agree

This one also juices up tower modifiers, which means you get even more waystone drop cahnce

The biogges thing for waystone sustain is just don't wipe on bosses

[strong sierra]

I think its amazing how more powerful this build is when there's large groups of enemies

[knotty glacier]

It's v. funny the way tyhere's a group and the shock suddnely pingpongs between everything and then BOOM

[strong sierra]

Out of curiosity I decided to see how expensive uncut 20s were

[keen dagger]

5/20/23 stuff is like 5 div I know

couldnt search for uncut gems by level when i tried

[keen dagger]

item level? bizarre

[knotty glacier]

@strong sierra If you havent already, annoint your amulet with Spreading shocks. It's super cheap (Guilt, Disgust, Disgust), and makes it so any shocking hit has a 50% chance to shock everything in 1.5 meters

which... goes very silly places

[strong sierra]

How does that stack with Coursing Current?

[knotty glacier]

I think it just gives you two seperate chances to shock more?\

Either way in oticed a signifanct jump in my ability sto shock groups once i added it on

[strong sierra]

RIght now I have Frazzled annointed for 30% shock magnitude

[knotty glacier]

Oh, hmm

uit looks like how it stacks actually is just it increases the radius

So it's a 50% xchance to shock within 3.6m for me

Frazzled is probably a great choice too, just paranoia is v. expensive to memory

[strong sierra]

At least I'm not trying to annoint Lightning Rod

Which I'm sure youv'e seen the cost of that

[knotty glacier]

I hadnt, but double iusolation ANd a suffering is crazy

[strong sierra]

Trying to remember what the tripple gold annoint was in poe1

Oh yea, apply an additional curse

[knotty glacier]

Eeey, 3rd asecndancy get

This build is dumb, i odnt even have archmage yet, and it's ridic how storng you are

I just looked funny at the 3rd boss and she went "Well, i guess i quit then" and exploded

[strong sierra]

I had more issues with the 3rd boss in Sekhema than any other boss

[knotty glacier]

Really?

What gave you grief?

[strong sierra]

Mostly quicksand

And the traps

[knotty glacier]

Huh

For her diving phas,e you dont have to trip the traps

just move onto the edge of a platform

[grizzled hamlet]

On January 13th, LocalIdentity and the PoB Community Fork Team are releasing major updates for Path of Building to support Path of Exile 2.

lets gooooooooo

no more slugging on random shitty website

PoB my beloved

[strong sierra]

Oh? Where was this announced at?

[keen dagger]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/news/path-of-building-release-for-poe2