ARPGs

[fervent raptor]

I'm very excited to have no mana rapid firing comet

[keen dagger]

triggered spells cost mana

regal into cast speed

[ember nimbus]

Act 3 is a slog I am probably not doing maps lol 😆

I think that GGG did drop the ball in some regards, such as with the massive obnoxious maps. Despite this I am still positive and confident about POE2 future even if everything is clearly unfinished.

[keen dagger]

the maps in a3 specifically are waaaay too fucking big

[ember nimbus]

My 30+ attempts at ultimatum for secondary subclasses points (I f-ing did it btw) absolutely knocked the sails out of me and thus dipping me into to negative doomsayer Redditor vibe. I am still optimistic due to well the game missing three other acts and much much more content but man I hope GGG listens or figures something out before February. I know that some patches are out but man it’s not enough

[keen dagger]

the first big patch posted above is huge

[fervent raptor]

Yeah that's what I mean - rapid firing comets on trigger absolutely decimating my mana pool

[keen dagger]

ahhh hahaha okay

[fervent raptor]

"what happens if I tap this little button that says 12 comets?"

[keen dagger]

gifts from heaven spam real??

I have been using cast on freeze comet and it's been great

[pine wedge]

Ascension is way overtuned rn

most people are only on 2 ascensions even deep into maps

It's a super super common pain point rn

Good news is the most recent patch shows that GGG is listening and hitting pain points.

It's only low hanging fruit rn

but they are listening

[orchid yacht]

Things are starting to move, once enough people say something, it will change

Seeing this is the first week of EA, I'd stay away from reddit lords, since EA also means patience
By the player and the devs

[frail panther]

Ascension as is seems just a lot harder for melee builds as well, no?

You can have a build that sustains itself just fine but not Honour

[fervent raptor]

Well, there is the option of doing Ult instead

But also generally the sanctum mobs telegraph enough with reasonably slow moves to dodge

[knotty glacier]

Well

bit the bullet, bought, currently a level 5 nearly level 6 poison ranger lady

Probably gonna pop a link to my stream here soon tm

https://www.twitch.tv/thezombiepenguin

[fervent raptor]

I've been doing flamewall/fireball cast on ignite frostwall for mapping which does a bunch of work and super charges Elemental Invocation

Gonna slot spell echo comet in the Invocation for "fuck you in particular"

In other news I did cascade frostwall for the (A3 spoilers) ||DPS race forge boss|| and it absolutely wrecked face

Frostwall is a seriously nutty skill in the right situations

https://fxtwitter.com/pathofexile/status/1866399540213133803

[cosmic owl]

Frostwall is bonkers

I'm not even using cascade and it still wrecking

[orchid yacht]

yep. increased drop rates alright

rare scepter, oh joy

[low delta]

this piece of shit || skeleton mastodon || (act 2 boss) needs to explode oh my god

[orchid yacht]

also I love how if you use a spirit skill gem, the game tells you all the classes that are gonna be added
Not much of a shock if you played the first game but neat regardless

Can't really decide on what to use some stuff honestly, regal orbs for once
And spirit gem on the other

Afraid I'll just waste stuff

[knotty glacier]

I think the best approach is just too eat them w/e. It's so early, it's not like characters are gonna stick around necessarily etc

[fervent raptor]

Oh, we already know what all classes are and where the new ones fit on the tree

Witch/Sorc
Shadow/Monk
Ranger/Huntress
Duellist/Mercenary
Marauder/Warrior
Templar/Druid

Scion retired

[hollow geyser]

Scion had a rough go of it, she deserves a relaxing time off

[fervent raptor]

Got about an hour when I get home to play more, so that's about half an act 3 zone, right?

[keen dagger]

😩

[fervent raptor]

I've never felt the lack of ms boots so hard

[keen dagger]

time to open up trade

[strong sierra]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hb55ue/psa_hold_shift_over_passive_tree_nodes_to_see_a/ WHAT

[grizzled hamlet]

its not very good at actually knowing

on my grenade merc it usually told me most passives didnt affect any of my skills

[strong sierra]

This also works for stuff like armor/evasion/es

[grizzled hamlet]

also you know, the game does tell you you can press the keys

alt has been such a life saver for looking a keywords

[strong sierra]

I just didn't think to try in the passive screen

[grizzled hamlet]

fair enough lol

[fervent raptor]

don't mind if I do

[keen dagger]

+4 woag

I like how in demon form all my cold spells have +6 levels it's great

[pine wedge]

And that's the right staff base for a chaos build too damn

(hexblast is mana hungry so sigil is great)

[fervent raptor]

lets go regal time baybeee

20% as extra lightning

[keen dagger]

are you hitting with chaos?

[fervent raptor]

I am not, just for a future build

[pine wedge]

lmao

someone forgot to update the string

[grizzled hamlet]

lol

[knotty glacier]

Succsefully thumped the Act 1 boss on the first try

[strong sierra]

Congrats!

[knotty glacier]

Sneakily put "The skil lasts LESS time" on my toxic growths, whcih helps a lot with SUDDENLY KABOOM

[knotty glacier]

Okay now Rathbreaker is kicking my arse though, that overheader of his oneshots me and dodging it is ARSE

Eeeh, complainig about it was the trick

gotem

[fervent raptor]

Less duration on Frost Bomb to pop faster did not work as planned

Exposure time tanked

[knotty glacier]

So, The Hooded One ||Is just Sin from the first game, right?||

[strong sierra]

|| Yes ||

[knotty glacier]

Ogh, so asdcnedacny is jhust some dumbbullshit, huh?

Grief, failed 3 times now, the 3rd time on teh boss. getting whackled with "you loose 40% damage and you cant do shit about it" is awful feeling

[slow jasper]

yeah melee on Sekhema is miserable, you just get gnawed to death by lil dudes and can't sustain your honour even if you're fine for HP

[knotty glacier]

I was range and it was still awful!

Loosing 40% of damage was crazy, and just... arrgh

did not enjoy

probably trhe only real sour poiint i've had so far

[slow jasper]

I got smacked with a big chunk of minus speed

[pine wedge]

Oh yeah, welcome to Sanctum

At the levels you're doing it for your ascendancy never take a random downside lol

[keen dagger]

ough you have to do 2 full maps the 2nd time?

[rustic grotto]

I like the increased loot since I could actually do something with that +3 to projectile skills crossbow I had lying around

Although it still feels like I hit like a wet noodle sometimes but not all the time

[low delta]

damn the (act2 spoiler) || giant skeleton|| was fucking awesome

[ashen lotus]

Welp, good news, somehow managed to make it to the act 1 boss for POE2, bad news, he's wrecking my shit

[cinder shoal]

Try reducing his HP to zero, that's the boss's weakness!

[orchid yacht]

They are weak to dying

[knotty glacier]

I feel this will treat me v. nicely

[knotty glacier]

Cold resist helps!

[ashen lotus]

Is there a way to resist the statuses specifically?
Because I tend to just make one(1) mistake, get frozen, die.

[knotty glacier]

Uh, Charms if you have them

i dont know when you get those exactly

also ahahahaha

[ashen lotus]

I have one frost resist charm, it helps
Less than I'd like

[knotty glacier]

The ahahaha is because i spent an exaleted orb on my quiver

and promptly got a crit chance added to it

[ashen lotus]

Ahhh

I don't understand the significance of that yet

[knotty glacier]

I upgraded an already good item and it got even gooder.

[slow jasper]

Honestly poe2 really expects you to keep your gear relevant

[fervent raptor]

Cold resist should reduce how much freeze buildup you suffer and so make you frozen less often (which then makes your charm more relevant)

It'll also reduce the damage you take, keeping you alive longer!

See if you can buy a sapphire ring from the disenchant vendor, perhaps?

[ashen lotus]

Huh, good idea

[fervent raptor]

Following that, don't be afraid to juggle your skills around to try different setups - definitely feels worthwhile doing boss-specific setups against later bosses so good practice if nothing else!

Oh also if you haven't found it, there's a boss that gives a permanent +10% cold Res in act 1

Acts 2 and 3 have one each for a different element (and there's a reason those elements are chosen per act!)

[ashen lotus]

Okay, I did get that boss (I think), as for boss-specific setups
I don't have the gems to really 'experiment'

[ashen lotus]

Okay, one odd question
Do crossbows count as 'two-handed weapons' for the purpose of perks?

[knotty glacier]

That, i do not know

[ashen lotus]

Oh wait I can just hold Shift and yes apparently it does

[knotty glacier]

eeey!

Also now i have gas arrows, toxic growth, and flame wall

ranger is very fun ina " and then the screen exploded"

[ashen lotus]

I
Fucking
Did It

Turns out I needed to be far less fancy and just stack damage on the big machine gun

[knotty glacier]

APPLY BOOLLET

also congrats

[ashen lotus]

And now I'm getting my ass beat by the starter boss of Act 2

Then again, a lot of it is attack patterns which I need to learn properly

[knotty glacier]

Fwiw, I one shot the final boss of act 1, then got repeatedly owned by that fucker

It's safest to dodge roll behind him

[low delta]

how’d you manage that?

[knotty glacier]

One shot in the sense of I beat him on my first try, not "I invoked the chunky salsa rule and redyed the room in boss gore"

[low delta]

i see i see

what class?

[knotty glacier]

Poison Ranger

[low delta]

zased

i’ve been really enjoying mercenary and monk

[knotty glacier]

Which was struggling for a bit in act 2, But I have ascended into true power

I am now Poison Flaming Explosion Ranger

[ashen lotus]

Yeah, I've officially committed to making my Mercenary the king of Rapid Fire

The game gave me a machine gun, I'm gonna exploit that to its fullest (which means mostly speccing into fire damage it looks like)

[knotty glacier]

Because Gas Arrow + Toxic Growths + Fire Wall is hilarious

[low delta]

the last bit of act 2 has been pretty killer for merc

[low delta]

good, good! let the hate flow through you!

[knotty glacier]

Throw down toxic growths (use barrage for even more), then throw a fire wall.... And then fire the gas arrow

[low delta]

💀💀💀

[knotty glacier]

Watch a rare loose 50%+ of it's HP instantly

And the explosion just ripple through hoards

Made tripping the massive Terracotta army trap hilarious

[low delta]

my favorite way of killing so far has been my cursed technique of uhh three railgun burst

[knotty glacier]

Ranger: That was predictable. Clay shards go everywhere as the plague bombs trigger

[low delta]

i whip out galvanic shards and watch the entire horde get shocked and explode all at once it’s so beautiful

[ashen lotus]

Wait what?

[knotty glacier]

Merc I was tempted by, but I'm pretty happy with Ranger overall

[low delta]

yeeeeah you can put scattershot on the high velocity rounds

[ashen lotus]

Oh
Oh

[low delta]

it decreases the damage but you get three burst shots and it’s hilarious

use that with a dyad crossbow to win

u can armor break and then BRRRRT

[ashen lotus]

Oh so that's how that works
After putting it on a grenade I thought it'd fire at like, a 70 degree spread being useless

[strong sierra]

Does the armor break bonus apply to each shot or just the first?

[ashen lotus]

Man
Scattershot is really good though, shame you only get one.
I'm starting to see why Merc gets the extra crystals ascendancy and I think I'll go for that one when I can

[low delta]

i believe it’s just the first but either way it does do a fuckton of damage

[low delta]

scattershot grenades are so fun

[knotty glacier]

You didn't need that eye anyway

It was holding you back!

(the gemling Merc just having decided to mainline skill crystals is very funny to me)

[ashen lotus]

Okay they are, but I struggle to hit anything with them

Great in tight corridors against a slow horde though

[knotty glacier]

Part of the reason gas arrow has been such an upgrade is it's ability to just dumpster poison in such a huge area

Compared to poisonburst's relative need for precision

[strong sierra]

Right now on my merc I have scattershot on ap rounds because it doesn't reduce the armor break values

[low delta]

how does that one interact?

[strong sierra]

You fire in 3 round bursts.

For the cost of one bolt

Anything that would add extra projectiles to a crossbow attack causes the bolts to come out in sequence

[knotty glacier]

Ooh that's interesting

I'm really looking forward to having the resources to dig into build crafting more with this game

[strong sierra]

Yea, there's a lot of nice information on all the keywords that you can read

Like crossbows are 2 handed for example. I know it sounds like a "duh" moment but its nice to know that the game will confirm that. Same with totems being allies.

[ashen lotus]

I put scattershot on the machine gun mode because while I lose out on DPS, I get effectively triple the magazine capacity

[strong sierra]

Yes

[orchid yacht]

100 spirit let's goo

[orchid yacht]

starting to branch out from the witch's passive tree -
Probably going towards the middle right and left for chaos dmg and general minion goodness

[solar vigil]

for poe 1, does ronarray make good guides?

omg finally movement speed boots

[pine wedge]

never yeard of them

[strong sierra]

I'm in Act 2 Cruel and I STILL haven't seen a 2 slot belt

[keen dagger]

I don't get it

[knotty glacier]

Belts define the # of slots you have for charms, iiirc

[keen dagger]

no I mean I don't get why it's like that

the only way you get the extra charm slots is by a suffix on belts that only appears late campaign or in maps

[knotty glacier]

Oooohhh

Devs are human, sometimes they dont always think through choices

[keen dagger]

and seems pretty crucial on belts as an affix

[strong sierra]

Huzzah

[strong sierra]

Wait its a suffix?

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAA

[keen dagger]

bilbo around unique

yes it is a suffix

[solar vigil]

new patch?

[slow jasper]

hotfix I think

[knotty glacier]

Actual patch but servers are still down for patch notes etc

[slow jasper]

Yeah the ingame message said hotfix with 15m downtime

It's like a 0.1b update or something

[knotty glacier]

https://old.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hcb0hv/010d_patch_notes/

[pine wedge]

praise be Ultimatum nerfs

[solar vigil]

trigger skills got changed

clearing nerf

[strong sierra]

This is going for a mirror by the way

[strong sierra]

https://www.twitch.tv/quin69/clip/FurryRoughSandwichStinkyCheese-7Nh8Wx56YWfXq7sV

[pine wedge]

wait holy fuck did you find Original Sin!?

I thought it was Sanctum locked on the relic

WTF

Congrats on the T0 unique ig?

[strong sierra]

I did!

[pine wedge]

to be clear

this is cruel act 2?

[strong sierra]

Yes

[pine wedge]

Good fucking lord

ok

congrats!

but holy shit

enjoy the mirror

[strong sierra]

I'm going to totally keep it

[pine wedge]

Hell yeah

Chaos Comet lets go?

[strong sierra]

No idea

Problem for future me

[pine wedge]

It's funny

Original Sin as a drop anywhere T0 is actually more accessible than in PoE1 lol

[strong sierra]

Absolutely

[grizzled hamlet]

damn, gg creator!

[solar vigil]

late A3 spoilers ||THESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESUN||

||NO FUCKING WAY||

[keen dagger]

it's such a good area

just capped my fire res as infernalist

I really hope they buff demon form soon it's just straight up worse than a good staff

[knotty glacier]

First ever unique

[solar vigil]

Late act 3 spoilers ||ok given we fight viper and she gets zooped by the legion crystals, we might fight hyrri in act 4||

[knotty glacier]

So, how do you get meta skil lgems?

[fervent raptor]

Uncut Spirit Gems

I think they're all on the tier 2 spirit gems, which start dropping in Act 2

[knotty glacier]

Ah, i have gotten fantastically unlucky then

having finished all of act 2 and not seen a single one

This is pretty decent, yeah>? (if you're not relying on physical damage like i am)

[fervent raptor]

Oh I say Tier 2 Spirit Gem; I mean Tier 8+ (getting confused with Support Gems)

But yeah, they drop at the same tier as normal skill gems

[orchid yacht]

Question
When are permanent minions unlocked for the witch?

Cause I always look at rare mobs like
Damn, you could be useful

[knotty glacier]

Two unique quarterstaves in a row.

[cinder shoal]

Automatic bleed on hit, woo time for a bleed build

[knotty glacier]

For liuke, a few levels till it becomes useless 😛

[fervent raptor]

As in minions raised from dead mobs?

That's Bind Spectre, but there were Problems™️ with it that they couldn't fix before launch and so it's currently disabled

[orchid yacht]

Ah- I see

[solar vigil]

Using combat frenzy with profusion to generate power charges

Didn’t realize it was frenzy charge on electrocution and not shock

I need a specific unique to make this work

Problem is I’m broke lmao

[fervent raptor]

holy shit theyve obliterated trigger gems

[keen dagger]

yeup

the solution seems like a really bad one

[fervent raptor]

"problem: thing was good. solution: make unusable"

[keen dagger]

like if you want to nerf autobomb builds why not make it so triggering is harder if you're triggering more often than a certain threshold

so that people can still use them "normally"

[low delta]

jesus christ monk gets fun

i'm melting with combos

[fervent raptor]

well I hope I have enough gold to pretty much respec my whole tree

because my sorc has been dumpstered

[fervent raptor]

fuck it just making a monk instead

[keen dagger]

they really should make respecs free if they are going to do drastic changes like this

[low delta]

monk is so fun

hitting a triple charged falling thunder is so satisfying

[solar vigil]

It’s actually a buff on bosses

It’s just not really useable for clear

[keen dagger]

clear is what triggered comet is good for

was good for

and I'm pretty sure it still doesn't stop the most egregious shit

[grizzled hamlet]

pog

[solar vigil]

Pog

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/HuIRcpgWsSQ

[keen dagger]

pearl gang

[slow jasper]

My lightning monk went fucking super saiyan in early act 3

Getting charged staff and profane ritual

[solar vigil]

does anyone have a spare kitoko's current i could buy for 1 ex? im trying to pm people on trade and im not getting any responses

[solar vigil]

i think it might be a weird bug?

[ashen lotus]

Okay, POE2 rant time about ascendancies
I despise the Honour mechanic with my heart, soul and mind, why is it there

[solar vigil]

because it was a league mechanic in poe1

theyll iron it out im sure

[ashen lotus]

Here's hoping, because dying with a completely full flask and full health bar is not what I consider 'fun'

[fervent raptor]

Uh... While I didn't try and boss, it made even just single rares actually painful so

I appreciate that flamewall was probably kinda busted for it but we're genuinely talking like, proccing a CoI in 3 ignites vs getting like 1% per mob

I wasn't using it on bosses anyway in favour of self casting frostwall (which I had on CoI)

And even doing that was painfully slowly building up Elemental Invocation energy

[solar vigil]

can someone try firending me ingame? i might be suffering from a weirdf bug

im not getting party invites

and im not getting any whispers back from anyone off trade

[fervent raptor]

You don't somehow have DND on or anything, right?

I can hop on in 2 mins

[solar vigil]

uh how do i set that?

[fervent raptor]

/dnd

[solar vigil]

i just set it to on then off

[fervent raptor]

Cool, let me jump on then

(also possibly also just average trade experience)

[solar vigil]

maybe?

ive been at this for like 30 mins

[fervent raptor]

Lmk who to whisper

[solar vigil]

its InvokerPunch

did you send the whisper?

[ashen lotus]

Okay, got my first Unique on POE2 or whatever they're called and-

Is this supposed to be crap?

Did I get bad rolls or what happened?

[solar vigil]

unique itrems still have the intrisic stats of thier base

[fervent raptor]

uniques don't scale with ilevel at all - some are just very low level "here's a chunk of something"

which in this case is life

and it's probably equippable at lvl 1

they're not necessarily designed to be good so much as provide a source of some otherwise interesting stat or mechanic

[pine wedge]

yeah, that one is not that good of a unique. PoE uniques all try to be niche is some fashion but because of that you often get misses

GGG just puts uniques in the game without actually checking if they're good or not

(well, they do check, but just because one is bad doesn't mean it isn't useful to someone)

If you play MTG, many uniques are meant to be the equivilent of One With Nothing

[fervent raptor]

haha I don't think that's strictly true - they just also follow the principle of "bad ones exist to make the good ones even more special"

[pine wedge]

I have heard it confirmed in interviews that they will absolutely add shit without plans for how it's used

Uniques are one aspect of that

But a more famous example is Ward

[fervent raptor]

sure, but they do tier stuff so there must be a vague idea

[pine wedge]

Like I said in my correction, they do check but they don't throw something out because its bad

Like, they knew Original Sin in PoE1 was OP as fuck

Which is why they made the unlock requirement so difficult

And they miss sometimes too

See the Sanctum Staff which is also quite hard to get (not as hard of OS ofc but not exactly easy) but is kind of shit

[orchid yacht]

i'm gonna scream-

[fervent raptor]

[keen dagger]

innsmouth huh

[orchid yacht]

|| jesus h christ the count isn't playing around||

so yea, no, Can't beat the fucker as of now, gotta level more or something idk

maybe more INT will help

even at lvl 17

or. just use Bone Spikes and just exterminate the fucker i guess-

[low delta]

it’s so fire

i need good drip for it because it looks so dope

[solar vigil]

a3 done, first try on final boss

[keen dagger]

use bone storm kill in 10 hits

[orchid yacht]

Ye- I noticed
Damn

Was trying to branch out to Solar Orb and other fire sorc stuff but no, this is so much better

It's a bit weird to juggle
Since I require a lot of spells on the mouse sectionof the hotbar, but ye

[keen dagger]

bone storm needs to be on the mouse yeah

but it's really effective for bossing in a1 and early a2 with very little investment. it's going to fall off after that unless you're going heavy on scaling

[pine wedge]

If you do go heavy

[orchid yacht]

Cause i got contagion and the spread bolt, syphon i believe it's called

[pine wedge]

it scales just fine IIRC

[orchid yacht]

But I also need Unearth for minions

[keen dagger]

yeah it's just nuts with 0 investment right after you get jt

[orchid yacht]

Investment meaning spell dmg/crit?

[keen dagger]

ye

[orchid yacht]

It's on the list aye

[keen dagger]

and you need power charge generation somehow

[orchid yacht]

Oh right, that also

Gotta settle on some abilities cause for now contagion+spread works
But I'm juggling to many abilities for very little payoff

Like, unearth is decent
But the minions barely survive nor it helps with big aoe

[pine wedge]

Chaos DoT is ok early on but falls off

(Source: I played Chaos damage)

Also, the setup is Contagion+Essence Drain

[orchid yacht]

It was my main dmg source..

[pine wedge]

Well, you can transfer into Hexblast later on

[orchid yacht]

That one, yes
It's on my main mouse buttons

[pine wedge]

Using Blasphemy to proc it reliably

[orchid yacht]

I'm speccing into chaos dmg and minion dmg later on

[pine wedge]

What ascendancy?

[orchid yacht]

Just started act 2

[pine wedge]

Don't play Bloodmage

[orchid yacht]

But I imagine blood witch-
Why

[pine wedge]

I can not emphasize this enough

The first node is actively bad

and will make you worse

[orchid yacht]

The blood price on spells?

[pine wedge]

Yes

[keen dagger]

and if you play infernalist don't pick demon form it's super disappointing haha

[pine wedge]

You have to solve both life and mana regen issues

[orchid yacht]

That's..a bit disheartening to hear

[pine wedge]

Source: I'm in the endgame playing a Chaos Bloodmage

[orchid yacht]

It's just different degrees of bad

[keen dagger]

the other infernalist talents are great though!

[pine wedge]

Infernalist is good and solid

[orchid yacht]

So BM doesn't work
Period?

[keen dagger]

the puppy is amazing and altered flesh is incredible

[pine wedge]

It's just not worth the effort to make it work

If ascending was easier

Or the first node didn't actively make the game harder

[orchid yacht]

Well I hope by the time I get there something will have changed

But sheesh
I was super excited to play that

Althought I imagined the blood price wouldn't be easy to tackle, since you're basically always casting

[keen dagger]

I think the idea is going hard on minions so you don't mind constantly being at 60% hp as much

[knotty glacier]

I am enjoying the way you can branch out in this game

Like I added Hex? I think it is too my build, which I drop on bosses to make my poison damage spike hard

[strong sierra]

By the way, stash tab sale is going

[solar vigil]

a3 spoilers ||god the bosses in the trial of chaos are all so overtuned||

||they all have attacks that kill you so fast||

||I am in a1c and I still can’t do it||

[keen dagger]

huh i cant seem to do the ascension in act 2 cruel
it says "search traitors passage for more information on the barya you found". I killed balbala and full cleared the map and nothing
i guess its bugged?
I even went and did a tier 2 trial and nothing

[pine wedge]

Yeah, you'll just have to hope a 3 floor trial drops at some point

[knotty glacier]

Woo! Chaos trial down

Oh snap

I'll take this

[pine wedge]

Stash Tab Sale!

[keen dagger]

I really like that jewel slots are traversal nodes now

[solar vigil]

Ok the build that deals damage through spamming war cries is really funny

[solar vigil]

I wonder how they’re gonna handle peoples characters when A4-6 comes out

[cosmic owl]

The cast on freeze nerf killed my previous char

So I respecced cast on crit

Then the hotfix killed that too, and I was out of gold for respeccing (my fault really, got greedy)

Now levelling with lightning arrow

And goddamn, ranger has such a better levelling experience than sorceress

[keen dagger]

I feel like respecs should be free if they are going to be making huge balance changes like this lmao

[orchid yacht]

it was something that the community raised some on the last patch, so hopefully it's gonna get addresed soon

[solar vigil]

when do you start getting t3 support gems?

[strong sierra]

Act 2 Cruel

[solar vigil]

i see

[keen dagger]

If I have a 4 trial ultimatum will I get ascension

[pine wedge]

Yes

Assuming you haven't ascended or only have your first two points

[keen dagger]

I have done the A2N Trial and the A3N Trial with the quests. I have not ascended yet in Cruel.

[low delta]

man the on-death AOEs are fucking me over hard

[slow jasper]

There are so fuckin many

[low delta]

i'm playing monk rn and the manor is eating me alive

i have zero hp and there are six billion gallons of blood on the floor

[cosmic owl]

At least they're toned down a lot from poe1

[pine wedge]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fan1y2jt89r6e1.png

Hitless Sanctum has been done

and this is the reward

[solar vigil]

poe 2 tabula rasa having 6 rune slots would be really funny

[keen dagger]

that's really good. amazing roll too

[knotty glacier]

Ooooooooooooh

This seems extremly good?

[pine wedge]

Increased

So it's fine if you somehow don't need your helmet slot for resists and attributes.

[slow jasper]

Increased is additive rather than multiplicative iirc, yeah

[pine wedge]

But IIRC presence is noticably smaller than boss arenas and so you could very well lose it mod fight

Tbf Increased can be good with large enough numbers and 200% is a lot

But idk not my first choice

[slow jasper]

Yeah

[knotty glacier]

Well, it's still better than my current hat

so i'll be happy anyway 😛

[slow jasper]

Totes!

[knotty glacier]

Also it has a fluffy feather on it

[pine wedge]

(for an example of "sufficiently large Increased" see Indigon aka the 1000% Increased Damage forehead receipt)

[fervent raptor]

One neat thing is being generic damage% which could end up being used to scale weird things

[knotty glacier]

Also it is WILD that act 3 involves ||time travel||

[grizzled hamlet]

reminder to not respec into this

https://youtu.be/IzIreQsV-TQ

cause this is 100% getting nerfed lol

[knotty glacier]

also so how does trade work? I ask because i really need a damn spirit gem and the game is not fdropping them ;.;

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2 you go here

look for the thing you wanna find

and message the person

[knotty glacier]

I was more meaning how do i actually trade with a person in game, like.. how do i meet up and trade with them?

[grizzled hamlet]

oh

you either go to their hideout

or you both go to the same town

when youre in a party

theres a lil blue circle on their character picture

that will send you to the same zone

[knotty glacier]

Thank you!

[grizzled hamlet]

no prob :3

[knotty glacier]

I have learned the next issue with trading, actually getting people to reply

lol

[grizzled hamlet]

yeah

[knotty glacier]

oh well, i am ognna take a break for now and lie down. tiring game. many thingso n screen! booms!

[solar vigil]

whats the best charm rn? i assuemd the anti stun one but people seem to be using anti-freeze more?

[slow jasper]

Take the one that is appropriate for your upcoming encounters

[strong sierra]

Finally hit maps on my Chronomancer

[orchid yacht]

tempted to get the Currency tab, at least

since it will free me a lot of space for the future

also getting into builds is a bit disheartening
it's basically "yea buddy you've been doing a lot of stuff wrong-"

[orchid yacht]

Basically, for witch, chaos dmg is being ditched in any build
Cause Fire dmg is just better and works well with the ascendancy

Idk I don't really wanna brick the character so I fear commiting too early

[solar vigil]

If it’s working for you it’s working

If you wanna do a big change to your build wait till they reduce respec costs or give a free respec

[wild canyon]

So uhh

Should I pickup this game if I've put a substantial amount of time in Lost Ark?

[orchid yacht]

True..maybe a guide would have given me some tips om how to optimise it

[solar vigil]

yeah

but invariably its gonna have a different tree than you

i think its a good idea to see generally what theyre going like, crit, more of x damage type scaling, etc, rather than like... the specific nodes

[hollow geyser]

If it's fun it's fun - there's room on the market for more than one ARPG

[solar vigil]

like i know i need more crit on my monk so im gonna be taking more crit

but not going out of my way to make my tree exactly like theirs

barring a keystone you need or a specific notable

it kinda depends

for poe 2, you can throw what your intuition says is good at the wall and it will be much more likely to stick than in poe 1

[wild canyon]

anything I should do before starting POE2?

[hollow geyser]

There's good documentation in game so you can pick up and go, since you've played an ARPG you should be able to pick it up fast

[pine wedge]

I have a single piece of advice: do not play Bloodmage

Every other class has something going for it, but in it's current state Bloodmage is actively worse than just playing a base witch until you are deep into endgame.

If you really want to play Bloodmage, play another Int ascendancy and grab Blood Magic

[keen dagger]

The buff to how leech worked should make it easier now.

[pine wedge]

It's better

but if it takes two trials to just get back to baseline

you're still not a functional ascendancy

[keen dagger]

that was a long campaign

maxed resists and mapping now with 1.5k life and 2k es 😌

second map is bugged. no rares. can't complete it. try to go back with a new map. game crashes.

guess I'm going the other way lmao

I can't open any ways tones in that zone.

[wild canyon]

I picked ranger and am focusing on electric element

[pine wedge]

Lightning Arrow Deadeye is a classic

[wild canyon]

should I worry about looking up a build or nah?

the passive skill forest seems rather expansive

[grizzled hamlet]

not on a first playthrough

[knotty glacier]

Agreed with Jenny - i've done a bit of looking when i started struggling really hard

but in general you should be pretty fine

[grizzled hamlet]

the real answer is wait for path of building 2

so people can start sharing builds normally

instead of using whatever random website rush implemented something

[keen dagger]

the respec system is moderately forgiving

if you're used to Diablo like games you will be fine

[knotty glacier]

Also re: builds we're misisng like half the skills in teh game

IOne thign i'm trying to figure out now is how good igniting gas arrows actually is

like the burst is nice, but it actually cripples your ability to inflcit poison pretty dramatically

[keen dagger]

I've heard it's incredibly strong

[pine wedge]

It's already caught a nerf

[keen dagger]

blowned up :(

[knotty glacier]

It's def v strong, but its' very different to pure poison ranger, which i think i like better

which is equally strong, just in different ways

(Where you just create a death zone of gas clouds and plants)

This elad to an incredibly funny kill on a Vaal Shifter rare, who did his morph, leapt at me, and his body untranmsfomred ina heap infront of me

poor guy, rotted ;.;

[keen dagger]

you definitely need to spec into fire or chaos dot yeah

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, i dont think my passive tree was built right ofrr it

my passive tree is very focused o n poisioon, and going back to that is seeing some (scary results

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/KMsh2cRZ9lA?si=W5WvwXNhXsKpkxHz

[knotty glacier]

I think my only skill loot complaint is that spirit gems are a little rare

[cosmic owl]

If you need them, hit me up

I have way too many

[cosmic owl]

And as a reminder, maxroll are nasty to writers and tried to kill LETools

And for that they must burn

[grizzled hamlet]

fucking hell that sucks

didnt know, thanks for bringing it up ko

[cosmic owl]

yea, there was a wholeass drama about it in LE

Because LE tools had been there form the very beginning, when it was a far smaller game

Then maxroll turned up, said "hey we're big" and then did the thing

[knotty glacier]

I would adore grabbing one that's around level 11/12 if you've got such a thi9ng

Edit: scratch that, i found one! but thank you!

[keen gazelle]

I miss the PoE 1 orbital laser hexblast animation

This one in 2 just doesn’t feel anywhere as crunchy

[knotty glacier]

So, how the hell do i t ell if a rare is worth shoving up for sale

vs just mulching for fragments?

[cosmic owl]

Still on? I'm logging in now

[knotty glacier]

I found one, i'm all good, but thank you!

[orchid yacht]

Thank you
I was a bit lost on the skills, to be fair
The nods I have a pretty clear idea on what to get

Also, that currency tab is calling me

[knotty glacier]

I bvought it sincei t was on special, andi d o not regreet. very helpful

Also, thios is werid - i picked up a ultiamtum that's saying "This will allow you to choose your ascendecny class". but i've already got an asendancy class?

[cosmic owl]

It'll allow you to put two more skills in

If its the cruel one

wahaha more than doubling my dps

[knotty glacier]

jealous noises

[cosmic owl]

I had my last bow since level 28

[knotty glacier]

Ooof.

What sort of build are you doing, btw?

I'm full on the posion train, it is very fun

Throw platns at people, throw gas arrows, then proceed to keep spamming vile growths

add in some curses for "all of your chaos reistance is DEAD"

[cosmic owl]

lightning arrow

Nothing special, I just wanted a fast character after my cast on freeze sorc got killed

[knotty glacier]

Ah, neat

Poison def took a while to come online

[keen dagger]

OK I've definitely run into multiple maps where there are no rare monsters appearing outside of ones generated by delirium/breach etc.

Really annoying because you can't complete them for progress on top of generally being less rewarding because no pinatas

[knotty glacier]

I will say now that my poison build has come online, it's stupid fun

run aroudn slinging gas arrows and KILLER PLANTS at things

and then on bosses, you drop the kilelr plants, drop the gas, and open up ap ain train with exploding growths

[strong sierra]

Wait what did MaxRoll do?

[keen dagger]

they got a 1

[strong sierra]

Also not having a map tab sucks

[orchid yacht]

Could any witch player here give me a tip on the skills that I got? trying to cut generally good skills since I just started Act 2

[keen dagger]

bone storm is still great if you have power siphon. i found a +3 cold skills gelid staff partway through act 2 and switched to cold.

[orchid yacht]

let me get a pic of my current setup

[keen dagger]

The most important thing for scaling spell skills right now is just a shitload of gems levels

also are you going into minions, chaos, physical, elemental?

[orchid yacht]

this is what i'm running+grim feast

Flame wall and Enfeeble are new, just cause I wanted to try some stuff

my main source of dmg is chaos rn, which is what i'm speccing into + minion support

got bone storm for harder bosses and is helping a ton

i'm trying to find a balance for the hot bar, it's hard to juggle all of them around, and main 3 mouse buttons are occupied by
Essence drain, contagion and bone storm

[cosmic owl]

When they added last epoch as a game, content creators on their platforms who had previously written content for LETools were told to remove it from LETools, the site that had been going since the genesis of LE.

And some other shit

[strong sierra]

Absolutely disghusting

[keen dagger]

So mainly chaos dot stuff with minion backup?

You wanna beeline for Spiral into Insanity, Lingering Horror, and Void

basically all the spiral stuff

skills are pretty interchangeable at this point

Definitely pick up detonate dead when it comes available

[fervent raptor]

Realised the Sorc trigger storms have all the element keywords for gem level scaling

[keen dagger]

bonestorm + unearth may be better clear until chaos really comes online

but you need power siphon to make charges for bonestorm to be good

[pine wedge]

I'm going to be honest: Chaos DoT is about to start falling off hard

[orchid yacht]

I understood that It's either chaos dmg with minion or fire dmg

[orchid yacht]

that's why I wanted a backup

[keen dagger]

fire damage seems great

[orchid yacht]

it's simply
Fire wall, flame spirits and fire debuff

which then works for infernalist

[keen dagger]

incinerate is really good

[orchid yacht]

and I gather that the same buffs I'll be going with for Bone Storm (spell dmg and crit) do work with fire

So I'll swap chaos stuff with the fire stuff

also, got the currency tab.
Not sure about the gem tab, but since it's my first tab ever, going safe with it

[fervent raptor]

Currency and Map tend to be the main 2

Gem and Unique tend to be more convenience for collection purposes

Oh Fragment was big in the first game, idk about this one

But I would presume so

[cinder shoal]

Currency, Fragment, and Map were probably the three most critical tabs in poe1, other high-volume things like divination, essence, and blight were useful too

[fervent raptor]

Ess feels like it's going to be lower volume now?

[pine wedge]

a premium tab is needed for selling gear fwiw

[fervent raptor]

Oh yeah, can only list on Trade from a premium

The Currency tab does have one slot for that technically, but it's annoying to use

[grizzled hamlet]

technically

you dont need a premium tab

you can post gear on the forums

should still work in path 2 i think

[orchid yacht]

Late reply sry,
What do you mean by "is about to"
Patch notes or in general is less and less viable the more you go up the Acts?

[keen dagger]

they mean the latter

i don't know if that's true but they expressed that sentiment before

no dot multi hurts for sure

[orchid yacht]

ah, I see
So fire it is

it's more relialable I'd say?

[keen dagger]

for sure

landing ed cont early is kind of painful i find

:3c

[fervent raptor]

Yeah chaos dot has no real support

[pine wedge]

Ignite still has DoT multi sort of so it does scale far better (it's called Ignite Effect)

Chaos DoT lacks DoT multi so it's missing a key multiplier compared to other options

Chaos Damage, Wither effect, and Resist shredding are your options currently and it really wants a 4th to actually work

Chaos hit based has Crit and cast speed

but DoT is SOL

[orchid yacht]

So Ignite is basically Better Chaos DoT

cause chaos has no way to support itself

[pine wedge]

Also Ignite scales with the size of the initial hit

Which opens up some concerning scaling routes

[orchid yacht]

my only gripe with fire atm is that it seems a very wide resisted dmg among enemies
Maybe it's just act 2 tho

[pine wedge]

That's what curses are for

And also pen

[orchid yacht]

ooh, I see

really need to get Flammability then

thank you kindly

[strong sierra]

Hopefully the map tab gets ported over soon

[keen dagger]

yeah basically nothing has positive cold resistance i fight

because of exposure + blasphemy frostbite

[orchid yacht]

oh- this seems nice

[keen dagger]

its not bad, but you need gem levels

they fucked up the balancing so that any wand, stave, or focus without gem levels is worthless compared to having it.

[orchid yacht]

i'm currently using this one

[keen dagger]

definitely an improvement if you're going into fire damage

isnt sceptre offhand though? you'd use both

[orchid yacht]

lemme try

offhand works

[knotty glacier]

THUMP destoryed the act 1 cruel boss =3

it's kinda disgustingly awesome how fast stuff metls

[keen dagger]

I have not yet seen the 3rd sekhema trial bosses mechanics because my character is a fast bosser and got 50% more damage with enemies have 30% less hp

so the level 67 boss just got absolutely annihilated

[orchid yacht]

Just a buff
Simple, brutally effective

[knotty glacier]

Sometimes that's all you want!

I've got all the posion stuff i want on the passive tree, so now i'm figuring which stuff i go for interms of projectile and attack dfamage. the extra chaos daamge and evnetualy +1 to all chaos abilites is also real tempting, given how much of my build (i.e all) does chaos damage and uses chaos abilites

but also! Kite Runner! other ways to go zoom and do a murder

[solar vigil]

do you do more status buildup if you crit?

[keen dagger]

Yeah I believe so

[solar vigil]

i see

i pivoted from siphoning strike to eletrocution/kitokos current/profusion so i kinda need to go from shock chance to crit instead lol

shock will still be nice for my build when it happens but its no longer mandatory

[keen dagger]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hf3pgg/my_experience_with_sanctum_as_ascendency_mechanic/

for sanctum haters in the chat

the most recent time I tried it was dead easy but I'm ice witch so freeze and Ranged is huge for not getting hit

[knotty glacier]

AAAAAH

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I came online or osmethign in the trade, and suddnely got SPAMMED with offers because i had a gem with +quiver stats (Whcih is aprpently v. meta right now?)

...got 20 exalted for it though, so, you know

[keen dagger]

gme?

[knotty glacier]

Gem*. Or rather, Jewel.

You know the ones that go in the nodes on your passive tree

[keen dagger]

ahhh

[strong sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlYracrE4pU

[keen dagger]

im actually really enjoying the slow slow burn mystery in maps story

[keen dagger]

wait hold on quality on staves and wands just straight up doesn't do anything

wtf

ohhh they increase the quality of the skill attached to the item ok

[fervent raptor]

Which is more than caster qual ever did for you before haha

[keen dagger]

still kinda meh for most of the skills you get from your item which usually arent main skills either

but yes it is at least something

[cosmic owl]

The wait for greater jeweller's orbs becomes pretty excruciating

Probably gonna just buy one for 17ex or whatever

[knotty glacier]

GDI>

i just portalledo ut and lost a b unch of loto becuase there was no idncaiton i couldtn come bakc having done this

and i dindt even get my upgraded asedcncday clas for reasons?

sigh

the trials system is not well explained and that's just stupid frustraitng ot have happen

[strong sierra]

You could just try to vaal orb your gems for the 5th socket

[keen dagger]

I don't even know what I'm gonna use in my 5th slots except Mastery on my main skill

[knotty glacier]

KA BONG

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3642235/page/1#p25666653

We’ll also be making Passive Point respeccing cheaper especially at higher levels.

pog

Maps no longer have additional elemental resistance penalties inherently applied at Tier 6 and Tier 11 or higher Maps. It is now consistent across all of the Endgame.

oh didnt know this was a thing

wild

[strong sierra]

Oh the sanctum trial changes are nice

[knotty glacier]

"Fixed a bug where Damage over Time was dealing thrice as much damage to Honour as intended, and fixed a bug where Honour Resistance was only applying to two-thirds of that damage.** (This was confusing for us too) "**

I love video game patch noites

Also sounds like my poison build will stay winning - i do use vine arrow, but it's def in the more "Support" role

most ofm y damage is straight gas arrow and vile growths

[grizzled hamlet]

ye the nerf is more for the level stacking vine arrow build

that was deleting bosses

[solar vigil]

Electrocute nerfs

I don’t think this kills my build, I was already building up electrocute super fast once I specced into crit more

But I might switch off of kitokos current once I get to t3 support gems

[knotty glacier]

I saw that, and it did inspire some of the changes to my build

but also it seemed VERY SILLY

[grizzled hamlet]

the changes to chain CC makes sense personally

we'll see how it ends up but so far the changes have been good

[fervent raptor]

okay so lvl 14 is Monk Login

[keen dagger]

what

[fervent raptor]

I've been slowly playing a monk

and pre-lvl 14 it's awful

but now it feels pretty fun

[keen dagger]

ah you get a good levelling skill at 14?

[fervent raptor]

your choice of 2, in fact!

the starter monk skills are like

slow terrible lightning aoe

position-reliant cold

[keen dagger]

I'm considering speccing into bone stuff with my witch if it gets a good buff since that was what I wanted to do originally. After the patch drops.

But I just blew 5 ex on a +6 level 40% cast speed 40% spell damage cold staff

[fervent raptor]

smashed the A1 boss in one try 😎

[fervent raptor]

and then by 14 you get your choice of ice strike or lightning strike plus a relevant herald, so in my case fast attacks with Ice Strike which has very high freeze rate, and Herald of Ice to explode the frozen enemies and deal area damage to trash clear

[cosmic owl]

The recommendations I've seen all start with "get a bow and use lightning arrow"

Which is uh

Maybe bad fantasy for starting a monk

[fervent raptor]

basically what I did yeah

[orchid yacht]

Glad about the changes
No chaos support, so I'm glad I changed to fire

[fervent raptor]

? they've literally said they want to improve chaos dot

But that doesn't mean we haven't been looking at underpowered skills and support gems. We’ve got a number of changes planned which should improve some of these skills. The full list of changes will be in the patch notes but here is a sample of what you can expect.

Improvements to Rolling Slam and all Shield Skills in the Mace section.
Improvements to various Bow Skills, especially the skills used to generate Frenzy Charges.
Improvements to Bone Spells and Chaos Damage over Time Spells in the Occult section.
Improvements to various Crossbow Skills, especially those at higher Tiers.
Improvements to some of the underachieving Quarterstaff abilities.

[orchid yacht]

Oh missed the phrasing
Thought it was just a general buff
Let's goo

Also bone buff

[strong sierra]

I'm lookind forward to the enemy chaos damage nerf

[slow jasper]

Low level monk is pretty suffering

falling tempest is only useful when you have power charges

Your only power charge source is using the correct skill to get last hits

[low delta]

yeah monk is rough for a while

but then it gets really fun

[slow jasper]

also for some reason tempest and cold flurry do less dps than 1/4staff strike

But they do other stuff that you can utilize

[knotty glacier]

Charges and generating then in general seems very ???. As far as I can tell you can only get frenzy charges via snipers mark?

[slow jasper]

You can get them using combat frenzy

Whixh is a spirit skill

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, narrow ish requirements in that though.

Though I'm wondering about grabbing the Breach Unique quiver since it's super cheap

And giving it a go

[slow jasper]

Honestly it seems like there is a a dearth of charge options in general at the moment

Monk has two options for power charges, occult has one option for power charges, combat frenzy does frenzy charges, I don't know how you get endurance charges at all

[pine wedge]

What even uses Endurance charges?

[slow jasper]

at least one warcry

[knotty glacier]

There is a node that makes it so Endurance charges become frenzy charges, frenzy becomes power, and power becomes endurance

[slow jasper]

Oh yes, but I'm talking about first order generation

[knotty glacier]

Yah, gotcha

Plague Nova is very fun once you've got Astral Projection socketed into it

[knotty glacier]

Oh, this is werid

[knotty glacier]

Finding all the bonkers.

[cinder shoal]

Cast on crit stick

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, seems really intersting

I also found these:

"Burn the world%"

[cinder shoal]

Righteous Fire at home:

[knotty glacier]

Also this was a damn nice bow to get

[slow jasper]

Hmm, I am liking lingering illusion much more for generating power charges than the whole combat frenzy electrocute resonance cludge

Damnit, this is the second time I've tried to combo abilities and it just doesn't work

Lingering Illusion and ghost dance don't play nice together

In that if you have ghost dance active, you can't have lingering illusion active

I have enough spirit, they're both activated

[fervent raptor]

I've seen someone promoting a Cast on Ailment setup with Profane Ritual

[slow jasper]

Yeah, I'm thinking of that, but I don't have the spirit quite yet

[fervent raptor]

Oh for sure it's a chunk of spirit but it seemed super consistent

Guy was playing flicker monk and just constantly popping off

[knotty glacier]

sigh

Was 80% done with the third area of tiral of sekhema, nearly goign to havem y ifnal ascenday, and then two unlucky hits back to back smashed all my honor instnatly

Honestly upsetting

[slow jasper]

okay, for some reason the clarity support gem was causing lingering illusion to shut down when it was socketed, and I also had elemental invocation active

[knotty glacier]

Poison ranger gets stupid silly late game.

Cruel Viper in act 3 died in under 60s

[solar vigil]

what area level does tier 3 support gems start dropping in

[orchid yacht]

legit struggled agaisn't ||Balbala||
Almost chocked it due to poison

I'm missing a key support gem, but I'm really struggling rn to make the build work

[orchid yacht]

Most if it gets down to not having nearly enough support gems
For anything really
Got some spare skill gems but not the support

[hollow geyser]

Grim Dawn 1.2.1.3 update is live, lots of nice QOL in Shattered Realm (less shards to get to the good loot) and Crucible (high difficulties available from the start) and piercing weapons (they now pierce 100% instead of having split pierce and normal damage)
https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/grim-dawn-version-v1-2-1-3/142410

[fervent raptor]

Huh I actually don't know what points to take first on Invoker

[hidden heron]

Well that's one of each PoE2 class at level 10

Now to sit here full of indecision

[keen dagger]

at least finish act 1 with em and unlock the tier 3 skills

that will give you more information

[knotty glacier]

I will say that Poison Ranger takes a while to come online

(You really need gas arrow, and even tehn, Gas Arrow etc needs someextra support in the passive tree)

but once it does

ahahahaha

Bosses are disitnergrating in act 2 cruel

it's v funny

[strong sierra]

I kinda want to try that poison Gemling I posted the other day

[knotty glacier]

The vine one? That's getting nerfed next patch. And from what I've seen isn't really a poison build, it's just full on make vine go crazy

[strong sierra]

Nah it wasn't strictly vines, but also perfect shot

[knotty glacier]

Oh, interesting. I'll have to have a look

[strong sierra]

Like watching perfect shot melt over half a boss bar is amazing

[knotty glacier]

Could you link me the build?

[strong sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlYracrE4pU it was this video

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/w9q0nW2Ibxk

good weapon swap tech

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3645467

[keen dagger]

notes 🙂

[strong sierra]

Humm...this might be why I wasn't doing a lot of damage

[solar vigil]

HUGE BUFFS FOR ME LETS FUCKING GO

[hidden heron]

Spark is the only fun version of this kind of spell I've ever encountered

It just covers the whole damn screen

[solar vigil]

even though electrocute nerf, i think im overall buffed

[fervent raptor]

patching PoE1 just to use the mystery box I've not opened still on the account 🙃

worth the effort

[strong sierra]

I had a good Sanctum run going and then suddenly the Floor 3 boss happened

[knotty glacier]

I dfindtm ake it to the floor 3 boss and i am still salty about

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/12/the-new-nvidia-app-is-probably-hurting-your-pc-gaming-performance/

[strong sierra]

Also I need to figure out why you should instill your waystones

[pine wedge]

Juicing

More mobs, and Delirium rewards

[strong sierra]

I didn't seem to get anymore distilled emotions

[knotty glacier]

"I'll spend some of my gold on the starter gambler to help juice up a baby sorcerress"

Yeah, uh, yeah, that'll do.

[keen dagger]

whoa that's balling

[knotty glacier]

It makes it so every 2 int is giving you 1 energy sheild, i belive. Which is like, genuinely very good!

That's a ton of "Free" defence

[keen dagger]

I would love to fit that into my build I have 1200 mana

[knotty glacier]

OIkay, the checkpoint change? huge and feels very nice

[keen dagger]

still waiting for checkpoints in maps so I don't have to spend 2 minutes backtracking cus I missed a rare

[knotty glacier]

AHHHHH

third asecnday down

that was VERY STRESSFUL

[orchid yacht]

Playing the Trials cause
"I miss my labyritnh" really shows how disconnected I was with PoE canon

[strong sierra]

Yeah hopefully I can try it again soon

[fervent raptor]

Managed to do my first asc under leveled on Monk, sweating a little on the boss

Then like 30 minutes later the patch hits to make it better for melee lol

[keen dagger]

Chula monkey?

[fervent raptor]

Wha

[keen dagger]

good autocorrect. chayula monk

[fervent raptor]

Oh no, Invoker

[fervent raptor]

...I kinda feel like Invoker would make a good ele spellcaster

Nutty defensive node + more trigger gem energy

[strong sierra]

Steam is already called me out

[knotty glacier]

I got the same message

[solar vigil]

im getting an odd bug where i cant bind this orb of storms gem to my bar, and no info is coming up for it

has anyone else ran into this?

[knotty glacier]

Anyone know if Incenirate can critcally hit?

[fervent raptor]

Incinerate doesn't hit

[knotty glacier]

Well, that answers that!

[knotty glacier]

Waity, hang on - it doenst hit, but a bunch of stuff like support gems that work on hits work on it, and increase it's damage

[fervent raptor]

okay well its some fuckin' heinous spaghetti from diving into it further

it maybe does hit but the hits don't do anything??

you just get a flat ignite which is what deals the damage - there's no actual hit damage and so it gains nothing from crit

you maybe get effects that trigger on hit/crit but who tf knows

[knotty glacier]

From what i can tell: it doesnt actually hit, but a lot of things that effect hits like controleld destrtuction, work on it's numbers to inflate the ignite as if doing bit damage

[fervent raptor]

well CD explicitly says it gives more Ailment damage, and incinerate Ignites

the fact that Incinerate "hits" allows it to be supported by CD, but it seems like a bit of a cludge on GGG's part ngl

[strong sierra]

Finally got my 3rd trial done

I just had to farm out a level 62 djinn coin.

[knotty glacier]

Congrats!

[knotty glacier]

Oh, i dont like the "one shot at am ap" theing when you can just... get deltedo ut of hte blue

that feels bad 😦

[cosmic owl]

Getting oneshot normally means either bad luck, or you've forgotten a defensive layer

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, i went back and looked atm y gear and went "Oh, right my chest, rings, and head are all shitty rares"

Fixing just my chest and head with some half-decent gambles has gone a loooong way

[fervent raptor]

big fan of going from 717 to 1262 sheet deeps

Trial of Chaos time

[fervent raptor]

what a glowup

[keen dagger]

kinda honks that you can no longer twink with it

[grizzled hamlet]

vaal pact
life sprig
go hard into cast speed

[fervent raptor]

man I just demolished an A3 boss that gave me tons of issues on Sorc

Monk just ripped through

[fervent raptor]

the worst part about playing wasd melee is how many fucking items I hoover up on left click

charged staff is a bit good

[wild canyon]

How do people keybinds look?

I'm feeling a bit uncomfortable doing the rts move -> click to attack thing

[strong sierra]

I've been using wsad for movement and I've REALLY liked it

[fervent raptor]

my keybinds are meaningless because I use a non-standard keypad haha

[wild canyon]

I'm going to as well soonish and an considering using hitbox

[orchid yacht]

seems solid for a sorc

[fervent raptor]

whoever decided to make Eater balls into an enemy skill needs to take a long hard look in the mirror and think about what they've done.

[keen dagger]

lmao you mean the river hags right?

[fervent raptor]

yeah

such a pain in the ass on melee

[keen dagger]

not even threatening until you get trapped in one because you moved slightly wrong and die

super annoying skill

[fervent raptor]

so its not directly mentioned on the skill, but Ice Strike automatically dashes to enemies in close range

which has an annoying tendency to be an enemy I'm trying to move away from because they have a damn ball on them

[orchid yacht]

the more I play fire witch, the more I'm feeling this build ain't it

it doesn' feel right to me, it feels meta and not something I built
So i'm gonna go with the original plan, and go Bone Storm blood mage

and if it bites me in the ass, well, at least I wasn't following a guide for it

[fervent raptor]

ntb for 1 point

[knotty glacier]

Very good for poison ranger (who needs a surpsing amount of int)

[orchid yacht]

folks were saying skill level is good right?

not playing a monk but it's there

[fervent raptor]

on spells moreso than attacks

[orchid yacht]

ah, I see

[fervent raptor]

base damage of spells comes directly from their skill level, while attacks have a multiplier against weapon damage

that's not to say levels aren't good, but weapon damage is just more important

[keen dagger]

the elemental damage base types really want multiple added elemental damage mods, attack speed, and % weapon elemental damage

if you get at least two of these with a decent mod tier you've got an item

[fervent raptor]

aww yis, T11 skill get

[slow jasper]

Was movement is good

[slow jasper]

Skill level is really good, to the point an early act 2 staff has carried me through to the start of a1c

This is on monk

[keen dagger]

do the quarterstaff gems have flat damage?

[grizzled hamlet]

• levels is the best mod you can get for most if not all skills

[keen dagger]

good to know!

[slow jasper]

Yeah

Like, I've been running the left, and jsut got the right in A1C

And most quarterstaff gems increase damage % on level up

Like, level 5 tempest flurry does 85% of attack damage, level 15 does 147%

lmao I rolled 5-128 lightning on it nice
Which bumps my leftclick DPS from 1.2k to 1.9k

[keen dagger]

oh yeah we're blastin

[fervent raptor]

All things being equal probably yes, but I don't think it's the defining feature of melee weapons in the same way as it is for caster weapons

Gems level just scales spells better to begin with, and given that flat damage to spells seems to be no more, caster damage prefixes are just inc% which'll be additive with tree nodes etc and so is less impactful overall

To compare what +3 levels does for the two skills I've been maining on Sorc and Monk:

Fireball lvl 10 gives 50 (40-60) base fire damage

Fireball lvl 13 gives 76 (61-91) base fire damage, or 50% more damage

Ice Strike lvl 10 has 124% damage effectiveness

Ice Strike lvl 13 has 144% damage effectiveness, or 16.13% more damage

[fervent raptor]

For reference, Sayt's '+5-128 lightning' mod represents more than 100% more damage on average for an attack made with that quarterstaff

[orchid yacht]

At last I decided to cave and building site be damned
I'm going for a Bone themed Blood Witch
I cannot understimate how good Bonestorm is compared to everything else

[knotty glacier]

Ugh, my survivability in endgame stuff is still pants. Need better resist gear for one

[fervent raptor]

That's one of the things making Evasion/ES super good rn

They can both fully mitigate elemental damage in addition to phys, while you need both high armour and capped resistances on the bottom left of the tree

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, I think I need to drop some damage nodes to juice my evasion and es further

My main problem is it I get overwhelmed I'll pop

[knotty glacier]

I solved most of my surviability issues! Changed up my skills slightly, dropping the curse aura i was running for Ghost dance, and changed some of my defensive nodes (+100% evasion until hit, then get -30% is uh, not a great node in practice)

[fervent raptor]

Eyy, nice!

Always a good feeling to tinker with a build until things solve

[knotty glacier]

Thank you, thank you. I switched ot just straight throwing despair at things ()THIS PENGUIN HAS HANDS!) which works pretty decently

The only thing i'm missing right now is Ming's Heart.

Gimme his heart game 😠

[fervent raptor]

it's a shame this gives a lvl 11 skill

[orchid yacht]

first trial and I'm having a blast
gotta see if I have to prioritise water over bronze keys, hard choice

[strong sierra]

Would you like advice on that or nah?

[orchid yacht]

oh by all means

gut feeling would say to play the late game and stock up on water for relics
Since bronze keys are loot, and loot is something you get anywhere. Lowest rarity level too

[strong sierra]

Water is used for buying boons and at the end of a run can be traded in fo rkeys.

[orchid yacht]

oh, so double win

nevermind, sorry I doubted you bronze chest-

[knotty glacier]

Thankfulyl, that one has multiple leveld versions, so you can get a quite high level version if you feel like it

[fervent raptor]

Oh does it scale with ilvl

That's pretty neat

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, it's werid because there's osme really good uniques that dont scale with ilevel.

Like there's a really potent mace that gives you alll the buiffs your minions get

[fervent raptor]

Oh, I'm presuming it's just skill-granting uniques that scale with ilvl

Mechanically interesting effects can be played around with and potentially scaled to endgame (assuming it's not a lvling unique), but "this does this thing with this normal skill" has such a tiny window of use if it doesn't scale

Especially as spells seem to have lost all other sources of base damage

[orchid yacht]

I love how, playing a BM Witch, I can look at this item as a substiantal upgrade to my dps
even tho it's a melee weapon

it's such a fun way to play a caster
and the blood price isn't even that bad really

[strong sierra]

I wonder if I should switch over from staff to wand+foci

[orchid yacht]

i'm no kidding using a shield atm

also ||The valley of the Titans|| was legit one of my fav area and boss till now
I loved the environment and the sheer size of it all

[strong sierra]

Although the wand I wasn't isn't in the game yet

[pine wedge]

Those should be local mods tho

They only effect the weapon's physical damage so unless you're using mace attacks it doesn't do anything

(if you are, tho, all the power to you)

[orchid yacht]

oh..I thought it was a general increase to dmg mh..seems right then

I don't think I could have used it either on the offhand slot-

[strong sierra]

Thank you Ritual

[orchid yacht]

oh nice.

also, newbie question, how do you get more supp slot for spells?

[strong sierra]

You mean sockets right?

[orchid yacht]

ye

for support gems

[strong sierra]

So you'll need Jeweller's Orbs

Lesser to go from 2 to 3. Greater for 3 to 4. Perfect for 4 to 5.

[orchid yacht]

oh..still a bit off for me

[keen dagger]

how do you survive with 2400 hp

[strong sierra]

Evasion.

[keen dagger]

is evasion good now

[strong sierra]

HAs it been bad?

[keen dagger]

was in 1

[strong sierra]

But yea I'm having no specific issues surviving

[keen dagger]

glad to hear it's working to keep you alive at that hp that's great

I guess it helps that monster attacks are no longer randomly spells or attacks

I have 4500 hp with infernalist mitigation and still things can get a little spooky

[strong sierra]

Also a screen wide stop is really good

[orchid yacht]

https://twitter.com/JoshStrifeHayes/status/1870480906529710206?t=Cryl_bdFJbPgpc6YgUJSWw&s=33

Josh Strife Hayes (@JoshStrifeHayes) on X

I don't know what defence is.

Twitter · Dec 21, 2024, 2:46 PM

This man is playing with fire

[keen dagger]

just don't get hit I guess

[strong sierra]

Well, that is a chance top happen to him

[fervent raptor]

So local mods is one thing PoE has never been good at explaining, and only seems to have been addressed by implication in the more clear attack/spell weapon delineation

As a rule of thumb, if a modifier can unconditionally affect the stats of the item it's on, it's probably a local modifier

If it can't affect the item, or is conditional on something, it's a global modifier

A local mod applies only to the item it's on, while a global mod applies to you as a character

[orchid yacht]

Unless it specifies Spell dmg

[fervent raptor]

Well if it says spell damage then the mod explicitly isn't affecting the item 😛

[keen dagger]

Basically added damage and %phys damage on weapons is local and +/% defenses on armour is local otherwise it's global

[orchid yacht]

Noted, thank you for the explanation

[fervent raptor]

Spirit% on sceptres is local, too

[orchid yacht]

What I'm trying to balance atm are attributes
Cause I'm barely scraping trought

[keen dagger]

ah yeah ty

[fervent raptor]

Because sceptres have a base amount of spirit, and so the mod can apply to it