lmfao
#ARPGs
keen dagger
fervent raptor
...Haven't we known this for months?
grizzled hamlet
we knew that it will cost but not how much
keen dagger
(though this is basically what everyone expected it to cost)
keen dagger
need a hand?
desert inlet
keen dagger
is this like punkcore or is it different
solar vigil
made some BIG moves today. only in yellow maps and im like 1.5m dps
I should be free and clear for 2 voidstones.
A lethal pride would really pull this together
grizzled hamlet
god this is some blizzard level stuff
fervent raptor
vaal be vaaling
pine wedge
Wait is that Doryani?
grizzled hamlet
might be :O
pine wedge
Also, demon transformation
grizzled hamlet
OOOOH
fervent raptor
YO
grizzled hamlet
ENDGAME
grizzled hamlet
GOD IM SO HYPE
pine wedge
And that's where the fucking hands are coming from lol
fervent raptor
oh I'm guessing that's Xehst or w/e his name is
grizzled hamlet
endgame overview lets go
fervent raptor
Xesht* going by the name of the MTX
pine wedge
Anyone getting stream stutters?
fervent raptor
oh god I'm buffering hard
grizzled hamlet
yeah
pine wedge
There's something else going on on twitch rn
fervent raptor
ahhhhh not like this
grizzled hamlet
grizzled hamlet
heres hoping they do a run back
prime spruce
I'm glad they paused it while they fix the issue
fervent raptor
this is just an accurate preview of ea 
solar vigil
God, why does fate have it out for them
pine wedge
RIP
grizzled hamlet
hm, i wonder how deleveling gems will work
since theres a ton of use cases for lower level gems
shrines!
fervent raptor
holy shit that looks cool
grizzled hamlet
the dodge roll is so good
and i imagine it got better since exilecon
damn we got proper telegraphing
fervent raptor
RED IS DEAD
grizzled hamlet
we darksouls now
pine wedge
I might just have to leave this and watch the VoD
grizzled hamlet
fervent raptor
jump around, jump around
grizzled hamlet
oh bow can wasd shoot too
afaik it was just crossbows at the start from what they talked
makes sense they expanded it to all ranged
fervent raptor
jfc
grizzled hamlet
oh ye 2 flask slots
pine wedge
Love that they're finally showing endgame builds
because that Lightning build was way more than anything else
fervent raptor
okay thats cool
grizzled hamlet
ballistas having minimum range is interesting
fervent raptor
oh huh, witch is being focused to summons?
fervent raptor
holy shit the qol
prime spruce
ooh new raging spirits being summoned on fire skills is cool
fervent raptor
okay time to login
grizzled hamlet
witch seems to be occult focused
which is minions and chaos
and also
its still path
you can do melee witch if you want
and sorceress has the same start as witch afaik
theyre both the full int start
fervent raptor
that's interesting
fervent raptor
rip scion area
grizzled hamlet
gold respec, nice
grizzled hamlet
oh hell yeah i love the attribute node changes
fervent raptor
fuck yeah
solar vigil
HELL FUCKING YEAH
fervent raptor
YO
pine wedge
Power Stancing
fervent raptor
okay ngl the crusader was one of my favourite things about D3 for the beeeeg weapons
fervent raptor
oh that's a neat way to encourage optional content
although I can imagine that'd maybe get repetitive
new orbs pog
grizzled hamlet
i imagine not every character will need every boss
prime spruce
i think they've mentioned they can be gotten in multiple ways? so you're unlikely to miss it
fervent raptor
oh sweet
prime spruce
i don't fully remember what they've said about that though
fervent raptor
holy shit
pine wedge
Exalts aren't nearly as rare now
fervent raptor
spamming exalts is realllll
pine wedge
How the might have fallen
pine wedge
RUNE WORDS WHEN!?
fervent raptor
yoooo
pine wedge
(there aren't rune words rn to be clear)
grizzled hamlet
theyre kinda like abyss jewels i guess?
gear socketable stats
currency exchnge my beloved
fervent raptor
Faustus chained to PoE forever
solar vigil
LITERALLY THE SAME UI LOL
grizzled hamlet
quill rain my beloved
fervent raptor
QUILL RAIN NERF
pine wedge
Damn, love the little shots of high level builds
grizzled hamlet
ASCENSION
fervent raptor
QUILL RAIN NERF
down from 3 aps to 2.5 
pine wedge
CHRONOMANCER
grizzled hamlet
TIME MAGE WTF
pine wedge
LETS GOOOO
prime spruce
the ascendency art is so cool
fervent raptor
YOOOO
grizzled hamlet
@desert inlet YOU CAN PLAY A TIME MAGE
pine wedge
Chronomancer might have just killed my Chaos DoT plans
Deadeye back
And sounds unchanged lmao
fervent raptor
ignoring acc is cool
desert inlet
:3
fervent raptor
but functionally yeah lol
pine wedge
Oh Pathfinder can throw flasks
desert inlet
that's great for my wizard cule
pine wedge
Slow Immunity is sweet on Pathfinder
Oh interesting you can become a Gemling as Merc
Gemling might become just a generalist build
fervent raptor
omni.ascendancy
prime spruce
Sanctuary?
fervent raptor
oh fuck me
grizzled hamlet
this is so sanctum but rebranded lol
fervent raptor
THE MONKEY'S PAW
solar vigil
SANCTUM?
pine wedge
Lab is now literally Sanctum
fervent raptor
please god tell me there are multiple ways to ascend
prime spruce
It sounds like each act will have a different lab though
so for act 2 it's sanctum, but for act 1 it might be different?
could be introducing endgame systems
pine wedge
I have to assume the Act Sanctum is probably pretty tuned down
grizzled hamlet
yeah i imagine as long as you dont eat all the hits youll be fine
and you get a dodgeroll
pine wedge
Ok
fervent raptor
oh thank god
prime spruce
oooh, so you can choose any of the 6
pine wedge
You chose one
prime spruce
that's really cool
solar vigil
ultimatum
fervent raptor
wonder if the 3rd trial is a returning mechanic or a new one
oh you're going to have to do them all
grizzled hamlet
im pretty sure they mentioned you can do one type for all the points
cruel is back
fervent raptor
all rares?
pine wedge
Strongboxes are back
grizzled hamlet
huh i wonder how failing the maps will work
pine wedge
hell yeah
pine wedge
huh i wonder how failing the maps will work
use all your portals probably
Without killing the boss
grizzled hamlet
no i mean, he said it will lock out that map
prime spruce
essence is back!
pine wedge
Oh ok there are Regal Essences now
prime spruce
ooh, two essences is pretty nice
grizzled hamlet
its kinda delve yeah
fervent raptor
you can't fool me ggg
fervent raptor
no i mean, he said it will lock out that map
oh maybe it's just "you need to find another waystone to try it again"
pine wedge
....I just realized this is Last Epoch's endgame
The towers are literally just from LE
grizzled hamlet
i mean, you need to map to get to the bosses
fervent raptor
yeah but I guess you could just map the non-boss maps with your speed mapper
presuming your atlas will carry between characters
prime spruce
breach rings finally useful lmao
pine wedge
Breach Rings are meta!?
pine wedge
Merc definitely seems like the computer spec checker
prime spruce
oh man, oils are back
fervent raptor
deli is... blight?
solar vigil
🦀 BLIGHT IS DEAD 🦀
pine wedge
Oil sink because you probably can still stack deli on top of other mechanics
fervent raptor
ROG
prime spruce
i wonder if they'll change gwennen, since gambling is already a thing?
fervent raptor
Gwen still base type gambling then
pine wedge
Vaal Orbs Ult only?
fervent raptor
its krangling time
I mean that's probably no big deal given most people probably only like, DC endgame items when they gamble a corrupt, right?
prime spruce
oh shit, it was doryani
pine wedge
CALLED IT
fervent raptor
eyy free key
prime spruce
finally, we can get kiwis once more
fervent raptor
turn the gliding... off??
but y tho
oh god I can feel my cpu crying joining into that hideout
prime spruce
thats such a great hideout lmao
fervent raptor
I don't need it I can't afford it I don't need it I can't afford it I don't need it I can't afford it
solar vigil
BOAT
pine wedge
I don't need it I can't afford it I don't need it I can't afford it I don't need...
I just bought a bunch of plastic last ngiht
I can't I can't I can't
fervent raptor
hold me I'm dreaming - a game dev learning from the mistakes of other games in the genre
6 years?
grizzled hamlet
oh ye it was announced 5 years ago
so theyve been putting in the work for a long time
and ye poe 2 is clearly very much learning from LE and diablo 4
solar vigil
It’s gonna be really cool having random monsters in endgame maps kinda like necro settlers, it’s been really fun
fervent raptor
pre-standard league huh
grizzled hamlet
tuned out myself, will watch the q&a later at 2x speed
fervent raptor
there hasn't been much of note said tbh
"people will be getting multiple exalts in act 1"
aiming for full release 2025
"there's certainly a lot of worry that there are going to be builds that are just completely ridiculous"
jousis has entered the chat
"if you die you fail the map" wonder if 6 portals is just there for group play then
talking about the endgame being less forgiving
"we've finally got leech right this time"
the most argued mechanic in dev has been "what stat should dex give?" 
solar vigil
Tota for the third ascendancy trial perhaps?
fervent raptor
maaaaaaybe
kinda feel it would be neater to have a completely new mechanic though
okay yeah explicitly answered that you can focus one trial type for all of your ascendancy points
jewels drop everywhere; sanctum drops more (threshhold ones are sanctum only?)
vaal orbs drop everywhere too, but more in ult
oh cool sanctum honor can be mitigated by your defenses
and scales with your health
oh yeah sounds like tota for 3rd unless they're baiting the tease
solar vigil
I might be right lmao
fervent raptor
oh cool vaal implicits are in addition to instead of replacing the original implicit
oh cool current vaal "brick" outcome rerolls 1-3 mods instead of everything
oh fuck
there's a rare vaal outcome that multiplies mod values by 0.8-1.2
cool one design conceit is that no ascendancy calls out a weapon type
oh support gems have no levels
ascendancy class skills are supportable 
fervent raptor
scours gone
crafting being really baked in sounds super interesting
oh so runes are a replacement for benchcrafting targeted stuff
"oh I need more fire resist" is intended to be solved by chucking a rune in an item socket
game pauses when it crashes
log in back to where you were
and yeah 1 life per map, portals give you party play and dip in/out ability
no revives in maps in party play
pine wedge
So it's very much Last Epoch style endgame
interesting
To be clear, there are differences but it's super similar
fervent raptor
Sounds like they're really trying to give players more agency on progression at all levels
Which should really help to pull new players in and work with everyone discovering how the game works
To paraphrase Mark on item crafting after internal progression wipes
"If I'm not hearing about people finding and using multiple exalts in act 1 then they're not dropping enough"
And putting in a bunch of exploration rewards to help boost players that might be struggling
grizzled hamlet
grizzled hamlet
and yeah 1 life per map, portals give you party play and dip in/out ability
so if you die in a map it auto fails?
fervent raptor
so if you die in a map it auto fails?
Assuming you're playing solo, yeah
grizzled hamlet
interesting
fervent raptor
But it didn't sound like there was any kind of permanent lockout on the atlas so I think that wording was more "you need to find a new map item"
Oh, they did say the map bosses would be like, actually challenging because you're a) not forced to do them and b) they're more limited, so yeah given the 1 life thing I think bossers will definitely be a thing
grizzled hamlet
yeah, def exciting
it will also def shape the design of the game
one life per map will affect balancing a ton
fervent raptor
Sounds like bosses generally will be harder because they're not progression gates in the same way
And for sure, defenses etc are going to be much more meaningful
God only two weeeeeeeeeks
grizzled hamlet
fervent raptor
Oh, does your account show PoE2 access btw?
(I'm presuming you're over the lifetime threshold lol)
grizzled hamlet
:3
keen dagger
im so excited
prime spruce
Mine isn't showing access yet, but they've said they'll be sending them out over the next 2 weeks so i'm not worried
keen dagger
i havent spent that much on poe1 so im just buying a key myself
fervent raptor
Oh right I'll keep an eye out then
I'm likely pick up some stuff anyway but didn't want to be buying immediately haha - wait until after December at least!
keen dagger
is that sweet strategy game looking map the new atlas?
fervent raptor
Yup
keen dagger
( i missed the stream and haven't had time to watch the videos except the trailer/cinematic)
oh that looks so fucking good
fervent raptor
Essentially delve with infinite expansion
keen dagger
delve but not exclusively black grey and blue sounds right up my alley
fervent raptor
Instead of distinct maps (atoll, estuary, strand etc) you find generic waystones(?) that you use to move to the next point on the atlas
It sounds like the atlas nodes might be named maps/layouts? There's definitely something about tailoring the waystones you use (and what mechanics they're good for) to the area you're opening
Which would make sense with the biomes on the atlas (area of desert biome will contain a cluster of desert maps)
keen dagger
so you can do endgame without actually needing map items?
fervent raptor
And then there are towers that you can socket once with a consumable to influence the area around them, ala sextants I guess
Yeah, you just drop generic waystones instead of maps
The waystones are tiered and craftable in the same way that maps are, but it's not "putting this item in your map device will open Strand"
keen dagger
kinda nice that the layout isn't tied to the item any more if so
strong sierra
I gotat shell out the $30 for poe2
fervent raptor
Super excited to see how wasd movement works out and get vindicated for my keypad choices
pine wedge
There is one consistent thing from every preview: someone walks in, are suspicious of using WASD, use it, and declare it's what they will play on launch
solar vigil
Super excited to see how wasd movement works out and get vindicated for my keypa...
yeah
i played spiral knights as a kid and the moment they announced that i was
orchid yacht
hellos, I was directed here for Poe2 questions
First of all, HELL YE, can't wait
but more importantly, I played abt 70h of poe, not much, so I was wondering how leagues works
specifically the characters side, do you need to create a new character every league to partecipate in it? Or you can stay with your "main" on standard and keep at it there
I'm super excited for the game, 30 bucks is a steal for what is been showed, althought beats me how to use that MTX currency, since I rarely if it all engage with any type of mtx, doesn't matter the game
I know stash tabs are a big thing
strong sierra
Stash Tabs are the main thing really. Usually the first recommendation is a currency tab.
As for how leagues work, brand new character for each league.
Each league is effectively siloed off so you start the league with a new character and a completely empty stash.
At the end of the league all of that league's characters and stash gets merged in to Standard
orchid yacht
Thank you kindly
What I still need to get is, isn't it a bit sad? Like, you put a lot of effort into a character only for it to be confined into standard
sure you can still play it, but the content is in the leagues
it's a mechanism I still need to get
strong sierra
Kinda, but helps give me excuses to try different skills and with new leagues its nice to experience the planned league mechanics fresh.
fervent raptor
For PoE2 specifically, they covered this a little in the Q&A - the early access period will not have any planned resets
Once the game is in 1.0 then the EA stuff will be set aside as a league (basically pre-standard but will never have new content merged down) and a new baseline standard will take over when starting league finishes
pine wedge
Thank you kindly
What I still need to get is, isn't it a bit sad? Like, you put ...
Nah, because typically I'm done with the character when they migrated. I had fun with them, but now I'm done (and generally have been done for two or three months). If I want to reminisce the characters are still there after all.
fervent raptor
In effect it's no real different to saves on a single player game - I've still got my ER save from beating the game the first time but I don't ever feel the need to go back to it
And the progression system in PoE is designed to go from fresh to powerful with everything in between, and that's something I enjoy
orchid yacht
ooh, I see..It took me a long time to get to lvl 70 so I thought it was a slog all the time
But ye, that's a nice perspective to see things
makes you experiment with all diferent classes, like how you would change builds in a soul game
Thank you,
I'm really excited to get into PoE, but I wanted to have the correct attitude towards its systems
pine wedge
Yeah, an experienced player can typically hit level 70 in about 10 hours on their league starter. Personally I spend around 300 hours in a league for a sense of how long 10 hours is.
We don't know how long the PoE2 campaign will take (GGG says 25 hours for a new player but that's just their claim) but it's only going to get shorter tbh as people figure out levelling setups.
Also, from a game design perspective wiping characters every league lets GGG nerf builds without (too much) outcry. Played something OP and invested hundreds of hours? Well, it was going away regardless so no need to be upset that it's getting nerfed.
cinder shoal
makes you experiment with all diferent classes, like how you would change builds...
Or you play the same build almost every league just with the different league mechanics.
I keep gravitating to the same 3 or so builds
- cyclone slayer
- flicker strike
- storm brand templar
pine wedge
....you're playing Monk in PoE2 aren't you
cinder shoal
I dunno, I haven't actually looked into 2 much yet
But settlers league is the first time I hit lvl100 after so many years, with flicker strike trickster
In the long past when I foolishly played on hardcore, I got 4x essence drain/contagion characters up to like 85 or so (I kept dying at that level to porcupine packs 😭 )
cinder shoal
I do kind of enjoy the Acts leveling though, it's a familiar routine by this point
pine wedge
But settlers league is the first time I hit lvl100 after so many years, with fli...
well, Flicker Strike is a monk skill and monk is in the int/dex slot so....
Also only of monk's ascendancies can do a pseudo cast on crit setup with flicker really easily
orchid yacht
Yeah, an experienced player can typically hit level 70 in about 10 hours on thei...
I also believe that once you're "full build" you would stay that way, which negates a lot of the fun side of the game
pine wedge
Well, the issue with that is "full build" is very subject
Build budgets can get stupid
Also, certain builds only work with starting capital
which means your first build might not even be something you care about continuing
orchid yacht
ooh, I see
Ye, I got very little time with the game to understand it
But glad It has this element of replayability to it, which I always saw as somewhat of a detriment
cinder shoal
well, Flicker Strike is a monk skill and monk is in the int/dex slot so....
GGG can't stop me from having no control over where I'm going.
orchid yacht
my poe experience is basically
strong sierra
I'm very curious about how no duplicate support gems is going to work out.
fervent raptor
Yeah it'll be interesting with the new focus towards not just spamming one skill
But also probably let people really personalise their builds, even if it's in minor ways
strong sierra
I imagine this'll let us have more powerful support gems as well.
orchid yacht
i'm glad of the socket changes, really bothered me with skills sometimes requiring up to a 6 link setup
pine wedge
I mean, the reason everyone used only one ability in PoE 1 is because most builds can only have a single 6 link
6 links are mandatory (with very few exceptions)
strong sierra
orchid yacht
best live I saw, loved it
found my portal, it's clean and it has a nice blocky sound
gods the mtx store makes it really hard to choose
keen dagger
https://www.rxddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1gxwu8m/when_your_game_has_2_much_...
"But is there a tree to put points in after doing this? Of course there is. This is path of exile. There is always another tree"
orchid yacht
the "Skill Forest" as they called it
solar vigil
"But is there a tree to put points in after doing this? Of course there is. This...
they gave us atlas ascendancy trees.
keen dagger
i actually really like the change that they have their own areas
solar vigil
yeah, theres more progression but no oppotunity cost
keen dagger
the things I'm most happy about are that:
- layout no longer tied to the map item
- the atlas layouts are all endgame specific so it's all brand new tilesets after the campaign
I like seeing new areas a lot and don't play enough to have it all blend together
solar vigil
so my pob says 100% to hit but my ingame one says 96% and im not sure what to trust
pine wedge
PoB
Always PoB
you likely have some conditional in your build that's giving you extra accuracy that isn't up in game
but PoB can simulate it
keen dagger
pob knows what your character does better than poes stat readout does yeah
solar vigil
ok
keen dagger
PoE 2?
grizzled hamlet
they removed regional pricing for path of exile
ye people were abusing it sadly :|
hopefully they bring it back after fixing whatever let people abuse it
royal aurora
ye people were abusing it sadly :|
Is that why? Did they make a statement?
grizzled hamlet
no statement yet afaik
but from what i understand it was very easy to switch regions by changing browser language
a lot of people are talking about it, so i half expect them to do a statement
royal aurora
no statement yet afaik
but from what i understand it was very easy to switch reg...
Ah. Well. I hope they fix that soon lmao
strong sierra
Well, I've uninstalled some games in preperation for POE2
cinder shoal
Recommended says 100GB by the way
Western game dev has been here...
fervent raptor
I think I'm going to go Sorc to start, having rewatched the class stuff
orchid yacht
Chronomancy is, by all means, pretty hot as an ascendancy
fervent raptor
Ah, was looking at the other actually!
orchid yacht
I don't blame you, it's very satisfying with all those spell interactions
I'm gonna play the Witch and I like the Blood Magic Ascendancy, althought i'm not 100% sold on it, should see more info abt it
solar vigil
done with atlas finally U-Y-U
fervent raptor
A phrase you'll never have to say in PoE2!
pine wedge
done with atlas finally U-Y-U
Yay!
We're probably playing Infernalist Witch to start
However, apparently the nodes closest to your start on the tree change depending on which class you are. I.E. the int starter area will have different nodes of Sorc, Witch, and everyone else.
So if the Witch starting area is too minion sided I'll like swap to Sorc.
solar vigil
However, apparently the nodes closest to your start on the tree change depending...
They might have changed that?
And I bet you can just go for raw chaos damage and use your spirit for something else
pine wedge
I'm going to be looking for Fire damage tho for an ignite build.
fervent raptor
Haha real kill [Hillock equivalent] and spend 20 minutes reading the passive tree hours
orchid yacht
However, apparently the nodes closest to your start on the tree change depending...
since skills aren't linked to classes anymore you can do whatever really, it's part of the fun
and attributes are always a choice, never fixed
pine wedge
I know
That's not what I'm worried about
I'm worried that the very early Notables you get around level 5 or so are all going to be either minion, chaos damage, or defensive.
When I'll need an ele damage one but it won't be there because I'm playing the minion class with a side of chaos damage
orchid yacht
it might take a while but you can branch out to Sorc and even Warrior trees, since I know they should have some too
While still choosing the right attributes
fervent raptor
Current Witch start has minor passive branches for both spell and minion damage, right?
I can't imagine the very starting nodes are going to be to specialised, and then you just path to the relevant clusters as normal
grizzled hamlet
yeah current witch has
minions on one starting branch
and generic spell damage on the other branch
keen dagger
generic spell damage lfgggg
I feel like a disproportionate amount of people will be turning into a demon for league start
orchid yacht
I just want my cool necromancer class
pine wedge
I feel like a disproportionate amount of people will be turning into a demon for...
You give me the demon HRT I'm going to take the demon HRT
keen dagger
I mean I'm doing it too
keen dagger
*I just want my cool necromancer class*
I was kind of surprised they didn't make a pure necromancer class but as someone who hates going full minions I'm kinda glad it's not one of the only 12 options since I'd never play it 😅
solar vigil
We don’t have the third ascendancy yet, and I think the ascendancies are more gonna be like, a bit more general and more just cool concepts rather than synergizing with a particular type of skill directly for the most part. You can probably do minions well on either witch asc
orchid yacht
oh ye, Blood Mage works very well with minions cause it's passives boost dmg, so you can focus on the minion/debuff side without splitting you resources that much
a "pure minion" approach would shift the focus a bit too much I believe
pine wedge
Infernalist has minion ignite buffs and reminder that SRS is not a fire spell support gem
Also they get hellhounds
So I expect Infernalist will be doing fire spell spam for SRS herds along with anything else they can slap a fire buff on
grizzled hamlet
yeah well get two more pure int ascendancies Soon™️
fervent raptor
This is the sorc start from the stream
4 branches of minor passives plus the ol' attribute bypass
So I'd imagine you can get whatever you need pretty early on
pine wedge
I expect everything in that diamond changes for Witch
Once outside it tho things are stable
fervent raptor
Okay yeah, this is Witch
Inch resting - wonder what determines which of the two starting areas you get on different classes
pine wedge
There are three versions of each starting area
One for each class that starts there and a final for everyone else
fervent raptor
The area looks the same for Sorc as on Monk 🤔
Well, regardless it looks like there will be a bunch of options anyway to get a reasonable start
ember nimbus
I am very excited to play mercenary for POE2 despite it being probably one of the harder “big brain classes”
Warrior also seems very cool but in my heart I wait for my beloved the duelist 🤺
orchid yacht
twin stick shooter gameplay let's goo
fervent raptor
oh so maybe just a numbers thing which is why the icons look the same
kinda 💀 if they're separating out spell damage on witch though
pine wedge
I mean, if I hit level 2, open my passive tree on witch, and there's no self cast nodes in that starter area I'm just rerolling
which sucks
but no time sunk at least
strong sierra
Wild that Bloodmage will let you overfil your health by double
prime spruce
fervent raptor
Every time I rewatch the gameplay from the reveal stream I'm like "but maybe actually that class is good "
And in unrelated news I might start a Monk
frigid kernel
Mind over matter chaos innoculation Eldritch battery monk of chayula
strong sierra
YO
solar vigil
If I want to be farming lethal prides specifically, should I take the node that gives the kauri a greater chance to spawn in a legion encounter?
cinder shoal
Probably, as that'll get you more karui fragments
solar vigil
there should be something that lets you use a shield with a crossbow
since wasnt that a pretty common thing irl?
orchid yacht
grizzled hamlet
OOO
orchid yacht
strong sierra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTHoIQyrgQA
fervent raptor
Yoooo
Also in the second part they show a staff with +5 to lightning gems as a mod
frigid kernel
Should I just be spamming two ways or should I be doing more?
i don't think there is real data about how to obtain the most amount of lethal prides per karui legionstone
solar vigil
Well I know the drop rate is higher if you do more ways
frigid kernel
is the drop rate of lethal pride higher or is the drop rate of obtaining any timeless jewel hihger?
solar vigil
Any I believe
solar vigil
I think I’m gonna do invoker with quarterstaff/bow for my first char in Poe 2. Not going for any specific focus although it may end up more lightning focused naturally cos that’s the element both weapons have in common
Using double staff just feels boring
And if/when I do acolyte I’ll probs do quarterstaff/occult
Idk how much added chaos damage you can get before the ascendancy tho
what would be cool is a spell that works as a combo
so you get shoot shoot big shoot
and can extend it
fervent raptor
Acolyte of Chayula is a Monk ascendancy
fervent raptor
I think I'm pretty locked in for a Stormweaver atm
cinder shoal
Of all the things to be an acolyte of, I think Chayula (any of the breach entities) is not a good choice
On the other hand there's not many good candidates to be acolyte of to begin with in Wraeclast
strong sierra
Acolyte of Sin
fervent raptor
There's something about the order not really understanding exactly whom they're acolytes of iirc
cinder shoal
Sin is a cool dude, fuck Innocence and everyone who fell for his lies.
Didn't even have power to begin with, just leeched that shit from the Cleansing Fire
strong sierra
I plan on doing chronomancer or gemling
orchid yacht
Blood Witch, to finally live my minionmancer dreams
But also, that Juggernaut sure sounds nice.
pine wedge
Warrior has Warbringer and Titan
Do you mean one of those?
(Juggernaut is a PoE1 Marauder Ascendency)
orchid yacht
oh right
Then Titan
fervent raptor
Eyyy took a little time but we got there!
Apparently chaos doesn't bypass ES any more?
Which is pretty magnitude if factual
fervent raptor
It's in the list of changes on the Wiki - doesn't bypass but does twice as much damage to ES
I'll see if I can dig up the sauce
So not direct from GGG but based on a tooltip seen
solar vigil
When I do play acolyte I’d like to not use the elemental quarterstaff skills but I’m not sure if that’s feasible
pine wedge
You probably could go caster or bow on him
I suspect that Crossbows will be too far tho
fervent raptor
Early ea is probably going to be a little rough for going too off piste tbh
Just 'cause half the skills'll be missing for different weapons haha
pine wedge
and you won't have other good options yet
like daggers or spears
which would be real close
but just aren't in the game yet
fervent raptor
Yeah I was like "well int/dex should be able to go dagger... with no skills huh" haha
Presuming they'll drop with Shadow
pine wedge
So yeah, I would vote go Quarterstaff for now
and maybe plot some ranged Monk nonsense for endgame
fervent raptor
Wait we've seen flicker in game, right?
solar vigil
Yeah
fervent raptor
solar vigil
So I might wait till shadow drops to do acolyte
Idk there might be an easy way to get chaos damage out of the wind skills before the asc
fervent raptor
Well isn't the chaos damage bit we've seen extra ele as chaos?
pine wedge
Wait we've seen flicker in game, right?
it's associated with monk
solar vigil
Well isn't the chaos damage bit we've seen extra ele as chaos?
Hrm, interesting
Source?
solar vigil
Is that a passive node or?
fervent raptor
It's the ascendancy node they previewed
solar vigil
Oh
fervent raptor
1% per 5 unreserved Darkness
solar vigil
Yeah I’m curious if there will exist good options before the ascendancy
For just going pure wind skills
We will have to see
But yeah it will probably look better with dagger
Viper strike, etc
Eldritch battery is real btw https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/diBI5dXRgC
fervent raptor
Well, the background gameplay was just doing ele stuff still - I think it's probably meant to be a more ES focused melee ascendancy? Can likely just roll w/e
solar vigil
Yeah
fervent raptor
Let me see if I can find shown witch gems 🤔
solar vigil
My reasoning was that the occult skills are chaos and it would be more flavorful to go for that instead of ele
Idk, there might be some good options on the tree for monk chaos damage
pine wedge
idk, I feel chaos damage in general is super lacking rn
What little ther is seems to have been subsumed into the minion shit on witch
which is frustrating because god damn it GGG Witch is Chaos damage AND Minions
fervent raptor
Hmm, witch/occult gems look like they're all spells from what I can find
pine wedge
Chaos Attacks are likely connected to shadow
solar vigil
Hmm, witch/occult gems look like they're all spells from what I can find
Yeah, I’d probs have a wand or staff as secondary
solar vigil
Chaos *Attacks* are likely connected to shadow
Yeah
fervent raptor
Okay I've literally only just opened this vid but the opening line is encouraging - will watch and report!
"but this class goes so far beyond minions"
solar vigil
I wonder if melee splash lets you hit multiple mobs at once with palm attacks
So if you get an entire pack low you can get all their charges in one press
pine wedge
Okay I've literally only just opened this vid but the opening line is encouragin...
Hexblast Witch might be back depending on how good Blood Mage is with it
also, lmao knew this person isn't used to PoE
He said "40% damage multiplier" at one point for a 40% Increased Damage buff
Good info tho
but calling an Increase a multiplier is such a give away
fervent raptor
oh yeah lmao it's coming through a lot more
still stuff I've not seen before so that's cool
fervent raptor
Pen doesn't go negative anymore
oh hey this guy has a bunch of cool videos
oh fuck
1% of damage as extra chaos would be nuts in a conversion chain
strong sierra
Pen doesn't go negative anymore <:sadcowboy:572822626456698892>
It doesn't?
fervent raptor
apparently not! guy mentions it in the vid when looking at the tree - more pen available on the tree but it doesn't go negative as a massive scalar
oh yeah he shows off a notable right by the witch start which is 15% pen with apparently 6% on each of the two smalls leading up to it - 27% pen that easily would be kinda nuts if it did go negative
super interested to see the varied notables on the tree 👀 certainly exploring more design space / giving easier access to weird stats/mechanics
overleech on a notable
fervent raptor
I like that there's a bunch of stacking stuff available on the tree, too
solar vigil
Ok now this is the kinda shit that I’m talking about https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/zM30zEJV1h
orchid yacht
Support pack redeemed
Now it's just a matter of days
fervent raptor
In seven days we'll be reaching levels of hype never before seen in the modern era
orchid yacht
GGG said "Oh we are expecting League launching numbers"
point and laught at them-
solar vigil
haha, lmao
the servers are gonna be on fire
although, you gotta hand it to them, the league launches have been pretty smooth
orchid yacht
true but, those are rookie numbers
A flood is gonna happen
pine wedge
Oh they know
Listened to an interview where the GGG dude was slightly panicked about the number of keys and was already apologizing
They're bracing, but it's going to be bad
strong sierra
You still got hat interview handy?
pine wedge
It was the Ghazzy interview near the end
Somewhere in here
But at Thanksgiving so can't really go looking
grizzled hamlet
i mean, half the benefit of the EA being buying in is they know how many people are getting in
i expect it to be somewhat scuffed but not a total disaster
keen dagger
even if you know how many people are getting in 2 weeks is not a lot of time to upscale your infrastructure if you get way more sign ups than you expected
GGG has been doing launches like this for a decade now but I wouldn't be surprised if they underestimate a bit.
pine wedge
Message from another server about an absurd setup
If you add Blasphemy it's a 45 spirit aura
And has room for another curse
Enfeeble for example
fervent raptor
That's what, a 56/57% slow?
55.25 apparently
Also hey there's a https://poe2db.tw/us/ !
pine wedge
55.25 apparently
With only a level 13 gem
orchid yacht
i'm expecting, new expansion on an mmo levels
So first day is rough, second day is better
fervent raptor
I'm actually trying to work out the difference between Tier and Level on that gem
Oh Tier is the drop you need for it and Level is just normal 1-20, right?
pine wedge
I think tier is also like min level?
Tier seven gem uses a tier seven uncut which means it'll be level seven.
fervent raptor
Ig there must be a way to reset gem levels then if that one is lvl 11 but tier 13
solar vigil
Huh, lightning damage and cold damage’s attributes are flipped
Lightning is dex and cold is int now
fervent raptor
Wait what? That doesn't sound right given there was a "lightning % per x int" node on the tree in the int vid
fervent raptor
Huh, wonder if that's a recent change
...huh that's gonna be super bad for Stormweaver Sorc though
cinder shoal
Thinking about "Acolyte of Chayula" and how my first thought is "bros who tf thought THIS was a good idea"
solar vigil
Yeah I kinda wish they kept to one word asc names
keen dagger
bibbly gamers when da hoobly blibbitys show up
solar vigil
I like the concept tho
cinder shoal
Yeah I kinda wish they kept to one word asc names
I actually meant who the heck thought CHAYULA of all things was something to look to as a role model but that too I guess
fervent raptor
There was something in the Q&A about how the order as a whole aren't really aware of Chayula's nature or something like that
cinder shoal
It's easy to forget that not everyone in POE learns exactly how shitty all the gods are, kills them, then learns how many other shitty entities there are out in the multiverse
orchid yacht
"Wait, there are more of them-"
strong sierra
Technically we're also entities as well.
strong sierra
The only one that's aware of us is Chaos though
fervent raptor
CHAOS!
cinder shoal
Technically we're also entities as well.
Becoming the Maven's Champion certainly puts the player-character on an insanely different power scale than pretty much everything else.
cinder shoal
Ah. I've elected to totally not engage with the Ultimatum league content so this is outside my scope.
strong sierra
Yes I didn't know about this until 2 days ago when I started diving into poe lore
cinder shoal
The last lore-dive I did was a timeline binge and learning lots about the Eldritch Horrors.
strong sierra
That's fair
orchid yacht
i'm-
So hyped for the new lore
PoE is one of those games where a good amount of lore fits so well
I love how they released Wanted posters for every player character, explaning why they are sentenced to the gallows
and the most psycho among them is the Monk-
https://fxtwitter.com/pathofexile/status/1862246668697313488
For those curious
orchid yacht
Warrior is jut "A guy"
A wrongly accused one also
fervent raptor
Warrior unwanted
orchid yacht
just a little guy
cinder shoal
- Maraketh sorceress
- burning crops
- raining storms on land
she's just trying to help with agriculture and getting mixed up what spells she casts, give her a break channeling the elements is hard!
orchid yacht
and then there's mercenary
He just killed a guy, no complex story or misinterpreted tale
solar vigil
https://fxtwitter.com/pathofexile/status/1862246668697313488
For those curious
Could you post the other 2 please?
solar vigil
Ok if he’s just missing then why is he there on the gallows at character select
orchid yacht
it's a nice detail to see how "Minor crimes" of just being a little powerful makes you go straight to the gallows
It's the summary justice typical of this type of rulers
orchid yacht
Ok if he’s just missing then why is he there on the gallows at character select
From what I heard, wrongly accused
solar vigil
Ah I see
orchid yacht
just cause he's a big scary man
which is enough, seeing how the witch is there for about the same reason
pine wedge
Well, for most of these it's very clearly biased
Hell, even the Merc probably just took a job against the Count's interests
The Witch tho? If she's anything like the PoE1 witch she deserves it
orchid yacht
oh no, to my understanding she is just freaky
and the count is a sociopath so he sends everyone to the executioner
Proof of that is in the Executioner section of the stream
solar vigil
oh no, to my understanding she is just freaky
and the count is a sociopath so he...
It would be really funny if he just doesn’t like the blacksmith and wants to kill his son to torment him
Or just doesn’t like the kid
orchid yacht
they knew each other when they were young
It's just a very delayed revenge in term of spite
strong sierra
I'm curious what the other 6 will be
pine wedge
Well
The unique chest piece you get from his encounter is called Skin of the Loyal
And the upgraded version is called Skin of the Lords
orchid yacht
I do love the monk’s “fanatical pagan on the loose!”
it's that
and also the fact that he slaughtered his entire school-
pine wedge
I somehow doubt he killed his school
That reads to me "we killed his entire school but he escaped so lets pin it on him"
orchid yacht
ah of course, that could be the case
but the link to Chayula might be an answer, if it is indeed true
fervent raptor
Might even be like, ritualistic and he escaped, or like action from the breach side
Could swing either way on any of the characters being terrible people / horribly set up
pine wedge
I suspect the link to Chayula is during the game
As the he goes through the campaign he needs more power so he can either delve deeper into the power he's cultivated or reach beyond into the breach realm
orchid yacht
I believe the DEVs mentioned something about a dream, all characters seem to have
Let me get the video one sec
Lore section seems to talk about it
solar vigil
Could swing either way on any of the characters being terrible people / horribly...
thats probs intentional
fervent raptor
Interesting that some characters are getting hanged for the crime of existing vs the PoE1 exiles being pretty objectively terrible people
orchid yacht
PoE was, how would you say
Left intentionally vague, cause it had a very soft Worldbuilding
Which is now being made concrete in the second installment of the game
cinder shoal
Interesting that some characters are getting hanged for the crime of existing vs...
The main perspective we have is of Oriath (hyper authoritarian theology government) and the various dregs of Wraeclast that are all collectively stained by thousands of years of consecutive horrible civilizations. Meanwhile other continents like Kalguur exist and don't even share cultural roots or magic system with Wraeclast. One of them even comments virtue (skill) gems literally do not function for Kalgurrans, they tried and it's basically as useful as colored glass to them. Meanwhile they have their own system of runes which are a whole lot more tame by comparison.
fervent raptor
Oh, hmm turns out I'm just remembering the classes I normally play giving me a biased look haha
Witch kidnapped/killed children
Shadow was an assassin
Duellist killed a man for insulting him
Scion killed her husband (albeit following arranged marriage)
By contrast Ranger was a poacher and Marauder was a disobedient slave
Templar is an unrepentant authoritarian enforcer though
Just looking at those in contrast to why the characters in PoE2 are wanted and it seems to have turned more towards sympathetic unjustness?
pine wedge
IIRC Templar didn't toe the Church line and followed the scriptures a bit too closely for the higher ups
strong sierra
Yea, I'm very curious what the wanted posters for the other 6 will be.
cinder shoal
IIRC Templar didn't toe the Church line and followed the scriptures a bit too cl...
Templar got exiled because he asked too many questions and actually stood by his morals rather than go along with the injustices perpetrated by Dominus and Avarius. Eventually he got to the point of being the actual non-Warhammer definition of a heretic by believing the templar faith differently: namely in that the current templar order is a hideous disaster that deserves to be thoroughly broken.
Still very faithful and all. Just one of the men with the awareness and will to go against the current.
orchid yacht
the main difference is that the judgment here is biased, cause of the Baron
so even if you're right, but with bad morals or just bad methods
You would still hang
cause the truth would be twisted
like the Monk story, assuming it was indeed false
ember nimbus
I suspect at least for the monk it might not be false due in part to Delirium mechanics and the acolyte of Cyulala ascendancy sub-class it’ll be interesting to see how each PC is portrayed compared to POE 1 and its changes over time
pine wedge
strong sierra
fervent raptor
It's weird seeing people I know in other servers out of context like this haha
strong sierra
Oh?
keen dagger
yeah i like the way resists work in LE quite a bit
pine wedge
I enjoyed it tho I found it annoying how every build ended up resist stacking something
keen dagger
there are probably too many good options to scale damage with resist x in any given build yeah
strong sierra
I enjoyed LE resists but there was just a lot of damage types
fervent raptor
Oh?
I hang out in the Poe server during league launches; Shax is in a group I chat to regularly (and is an absolute goober sometimes)
Doesn't normally join in with our gsf 'cause he's a real trade player that speedruns shapers-per-second kinda dps builds, but is very competent at putting together strong builds within his own class expertise
fervent raptor
rustic grotto
I bought a key for PoE2 EA, but that's largely because I want to see if it's for me
orchid yacht
Ayy welcome to the club
solar vigil
i want to focus on lighting on invoker since i wanna do quarterstaff/bow, but dual element might be better tbh
fervent raptor
The game certainly seems like it's pushing towards more than mono-element
Which is something very prevalent in current PoE design where they've been testing things
pine wedge
At the very least I think duel damage type is going to be viable with enough investment
Using weapon swapping and such
keen dagger
yeah often your single type investment on the tree is going to be around 10-15 nodes which it looks like the weapon specialization supports
pine wedge
It's going to be awkward for the damage nodes that have some sort of defense layer on them
solar vigil
Yeah
Balancing two different elements sounds like a headache but I’m sure they’ve made it ez
fervent raptor
Weeeeeee
Slightly annoyed that I read Nov 5th first because it seemed an eminently reasonable time for it haha
But no, gonna have to pull a late one 
orchid yacht
Heard ZiggyD talk during an interview about the first day and he was like "get a backup plan while waitint, you're gonna need it"
Don't take the launch day off, take the next two
Cause they are gonna have problems
Not expecting an Helldiver launch day type of situation
But still
fervent raptor
I don't think it'll be anything outrageous tbh, but sure expecting some bumpiness
They're both experienced with league launches and they're gonna be even more all hands on deck, plus with the buy-in they've both got metrics on how many to expect and it'll probably be less populous than a given league launch
orchid yacht
Oh I hope so
Can't wait to sink my teeth in
pine wedge
They're both experienced with league launches and they're gonna be even more all...
They're prepping for 1 million players on early access launch
The number of key purchases has already exceeded a league launch IIRC
orchid yacht
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeHRzCPECHw
A good persepctive to show to people who are butthurt by PoE2 being good
a good metaphor, as the video said, is GoT seasons
Season 1: low budget, excellent writing
Season 8: high budget, horrible writing
orchid yacht
oh no these are good.
don't make me create a twitch account, just for this, please
pine wedge
🙂
orchid yacht
I might.
Just because JSH is gonna stream the game and that portal looks awesome
pine wedge
JSH is definitely not the worst person to view bot
orchid yacht
love the guy, i'll actively watch stream while i'm waiting for the servers
solar vigil
I might.
Just because JSH is gonna stream the game and that portal looks awesom...
who exactly?
is that an acronym for something
pine wedge
Josh Strife Hayes
He's a critic mostly known for playing MMORPGs tho he's since branched out into covering older games.
He is a bit off putting vibes wise at first (we were riding the is he or is he not a chud line for a while) but he's good. Has a Blahaj on his background shelf recently.
orchid yacht
ye no, he's genuinly great
lot's of good advices too, about general stuff in life
made a bunch of sponsored streams for PoE and GGG Likes him so, double good reason to trust him
orchid yacht
oh ye, funnily it was asked during the last stream
He studied acting , so he had to develop a good enunciation
and stuck with that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxduRuLSBhI&t=684s
People legit want to ruin positivity on stuff
PoE is the biggest pay to win game in the industry. You support GGG and in return they give an insane amount of support and content for years and years. There is no bigger player win.
pine wedge
I want people who call PoE Pay to Win to play a game that is actually pay to win lmao
Because yes stash tabs are mandatory after a point
but they're a one time fee (that goes on sale often) and it's not like you're making an uninformed decision
Games that really go in on pay to win tend to not let you just pay once
strong sierra
I've played Maple Story
keen dagger
the way I see it is you pay the price of a video game once during a stash tab sale and you are set for playing poe forever
orchid yacht
Those ppl never played a mobile game
grizzled hamlet
Because yes stash tabs are mandatory after a point
my main argument about stash tabs is
by the time you get to the point you need stash tabs, you got more than your moneys worth
pine wedge
Yeah, when you get to the point where you need to buy stash tabs you:
- Know if PoE is worth money to you
- Know why you want the tabs
- Are able to buy what you want directly from the store
3 is super important because so many times in P2W what you are buying is random i.e. gacha games and the like
In PoE if you buy $30 of stash tabs you get $30 of tabs of the exact type you want
And then you're done
grizzled hamlet
also if youre just starting
you can buy the 20$ starter pack, get one tab, and 200 points, and wait for a stash sale, which have a well known schedule
and get everything else you need
pine wedge
I am fine with a game paywalling me if it's late enough that I know if I want to keep playing or not and the paywalling is a flat fee. Paying for upgrade currency that I will always need more of? GTFO Paying for a new zone where the current endgame is located? That I'm fine with.
I played FFXIV for years, and you can play that game for free for quite a while. The marketing is different (free trial instead of Free to Play) but at the end of the day it pay walls you (and hell charges a subscription on top). That's fine imo because you know what you get when you pay.
strong sierra
the way I see it is you pay the price of a video game once during a stash tab sa...
Also this was a nice straight video on Stash Tabs purchasing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjffccepi0k
strong sierra
Amazing
keen dagger
I love how a bunch of the last leagues were just testing design ideas for poe 2
grizzled hamlet
honestly tota hinting about poe 2 stuff at random is 100% in line with hinekora
and honestly
if tota is the third ascendancy trial
hell yeah
tota needed some silly stuff for ultra high level grinds, but for normal play i enjoyed the gameplay
hollow geyser
Was that the league with the circle arenas and you pick rewards every few waves?
pine wedge
Nah, it was the autobattler league almost?
Two teams and you had to destroy the other team's totems
hollow geyser
That's kinda clever
pine wedge
Unfortunatelly the best builds didn't really do any battling
hollow geyser
I was a big fan of Blight and that kinda had the same situation
pine wedge
you just dropped Shockwave Totems and channeled on the enemy totem until it died
It was also the league that intro'd Tattoos
hollow geyser
Aren't most totems no longer a thing in Path of Exile 2?
pine wedge
Nah, Totems exist
One of the Warrior Ascendancies buffs them
And IIRC Jonathan has said Spell Totem is still around
hollow geyser
I always did want to try a ballista totem build
pine wedge
There are probably less, but there's just less skills in PoE2 in general so 
pine wedge
I always did want to try a ballista totem build
I know Artillery Ballista is a merc skill
pine wedge
fervent raptor
Ah, just seent the relevant interview - they've prepped to handle 1 million concurrent instances although think it's unlikely they'll need it, and they're anticipating league launch+ numbers but nothing concrete was said about it
Also on the subject of PoE's p2win-ness - you can also point to GGG who have gone
"Hey remember when you gave us $30 in 2017 for the recommended stash tabs? Well when our brand new game that we've developed in the meantime releases in 2025, we're going to honour those purchases"
fervent raptor
Turns out it was 10 minutes after you posted
Full ascendancy info all individually spoilered so you can just peek at what you want
Oh the site is on/off crashing though so images might not load properly
fervent raptor
Stormweaver kinda nuts
Chill for up to 70% reduced action speed ❄️
And a mana stacking payoff of more cast speed and mana regen
keen dagger
huh I have no idea what I'm actually gonna do if I pick infernalist
orchid yacht
Blood Mage seems good enough to not be a main focus
titan's got more inventory slots
fervent raptor
Blood Mage seems good enough to not be a main focus
Yeah for sure I think they've done a pretty good job from what I've looked at for focusing on a theme while still being pretty generalist
orchid yacht
Makes minion- mancer still viable, cause the tree compensates your lack in personal dmg
Without being that focus like Infernalist
fervent raptor
I don't even think Infernalist is that focused
orchid yacht
It's more burst-related I'd say, with the all "10 seconds of power up mode"
fervent raptor
Well, Demon Form sure for burst, but the Pyromantic Pact nodes could both play into like, well-managed ignite for example
And then yeah, defensive nodes, resource nodes and its own spicy crit node
Super into the Stormweaver stuff personally - I'd like to see the base CD on the ele storms for potential CoC stuff, but there's also the Archmage branch and the cold branch
pine wedge
Based on the footage ele storm CD is going to be super short
fervent raptor
Oh sure, but short and "6L primary damage source" are two different things haha
Also if that clip has Rain Dancer or not
strong sierra
I can't wait to have fun with 5 support gems on Time Freeze
orchid yacht
Boss leaving you with 1 hp
Chronomancer: it's rewind time
cinder shoal
Contagion at home:
pine wedge
NVM
someone pointed out the 8 second duration on Decaying Hex
strong sierra
Oh no, Titan gets 50% increased effect of passive nodes
strong sierra
You do get more inventory space!
pine wedge
Which is a nice convenience pickup, but considering the usual power budget of Ascendancy points it's a dead node.
It's saved by an absolutely nuts node behind it tho so it's k
fervent raptor
Can't wait for ninja data to start becoming available
And then judging all the people who pick up the inv space without getting the follow up
pine wedge
Also, apparently filterblade is going to take 2 to 3 weeks to get a loot filter running lol
playing poe without a lootfilter for 3 weeks 
fervent raptor
Well apparently the loot paradigm has shifted towards significantly less drops
orchid yacht
Played almost 100h of poe
Reaching the atlas, never even knew there was a loot filter
I heard it's almost mandatory at this point
pine wedge
oh god
yes it is
I can't even imagine
Set this to Strict and install it
please
god
orchid yacht
I always thought it wasn't that bad-
Isn't strict a bit, too strict? like
Hiding rares
fervent raptor
I'm normally cool with SemiStrict for a good while
pine wedge
SemiStrict also does hide some rares
Probably fine for early
But like
ground rares suck after a point
And you're mostly hunting for good bases
orchid yacht
does it read stats? sorry i'm very out of the loop with the game mechs
orchid yacht
do explain, please
pine wedge
For armor, higher level bases give more defensive stats
Example of an armor chestplate
Weapon base types are even more important on attack builds
orchid yacht
so the filter hides the low level junk
pine wedge
Yep
(both of those would show up btw lol but the point stands)
(they're both relatively high level)
orchid yacht
mh, I also saw that it hides portal scrolls and such
aren't them like, basic commodoties?
orchid yacht
oh, I see
pine wedge
Also, you can buy them from vendors
and if you run out of wisdoms
sell armorer's scraps or whetstones
Also, one of the main things it does is add noises
if you here a very loud TING noise and an item with a white name box and red text appears congrats!
You just dropped your first valuable item
you will soon develop a Pavlovian response to the noise
orchid yacht
so it helps when there's a lot of mayhem on screen
cause you might miss a good item
orchid yacht
maybe you read "Rare" and just walk over it, when it had superior stats
pine wedge
Well, rares don't get that treatment because it can only see base type and ilevel
you have to ID it to find the stats
Oh, also
Uniques are a bit weird
as it can only read the base type and the fact it's a unique
so if that base type has no good uniques it'll hide it (you can add a specific base type back in if you're target farming dw)
if it might be good it'll show up so you can hover over it and see what it is
for example, that vast majority of unique heavy belts that drop are shit. The remaining bit are Magebloods. So, it's worth having heavy belts show and manually checking each one
Finally, if the base type is always good it'll highlight it with escalating fan fair (depending on value)
pine wedge
I think semi strict just shows all uniques and lets you sort them out
strict will start filtering them
and the higher you go the higher the threshold becomes for a base type to be considered worth checking or a unique be considered valuable
orchid yacht
mh, them semi works well for me
Hell I always had a hard time sorting all the stuff I got
I had the jewels tab always full
pine wedge
Like, sure this two stone unique ring might be worth 40c. But I'm zooming and pulling triple that out of a map every minute and in currancy I don't have to trade with someone to liquidate
(I run very strict late in the league for this reason lol)
orchid yacht
I..never traded