ARPGs

[pine wedge]

I then sorted by physical damage

Found this thing

I would look for others ofc

but for 1 div you definitely can either make a new ax or get a better one

But for example this handily out performs the midgame axe in the PoB you sent

[solar vigil]

I see

Might spring for that?

[pine wedge]

I would shop a bit more

[solar vigil]

Yeah

[pine wedge]

But yeah definitely just look at 1 div axes and see what you can see

[solar vigil]

Was about to just sit on the one I had till I craft the endgame one

[pine wedge]

Don't do that

[solar vigil]

Yeah

[pine wedge]

you're an attack build you live and die by your weapon

[solar vigil]

Link what settings you used?

[pine wedge]

I did

[solar vigil]

Oh

Yeah sorry didn’t see

[pine wedge]

Then just click physical damage to sort by highest to lowest

Also, this is more expensive and something to work towards but cluster jewels are generally better for damage than anything you can get on the normal passive tree for damage

I'm not familiar with good bleed clusters so can't help there unfortunately

but idk something to think about

[solar vigil]

Ok

[pine wedge]

Finally, do you know how to make PoB find jewels for you?

[solar vigil]

No?

[pine wedge]

Click this

[solar vigil]

Ok yeah

[pine wedge]

Then this

[solar vigil]

I’ve seen that

I need one with 5% chance to bleed to get 100% bleed chance and I think I’d rather one with some cold or lighting res so I can swap the belt craft for more chaos res but yeah

[pine wedge]

What you can do is pull up the shop screen and remove some of the super low weight options and add mandatory mods

For example

Like, I doubt you're ever going to buy a jewel with flat or percent evasion

so I just removed them

[solar vigil]

Ok

[rustic grotto]

Hell yeah, did my first 10 round ultimatum

[pine wedge]

congrats!

[frigid kernel]

Does the guide say to use two Kaom's Sign?

[solar vigil]

Yes

Makes it hell to gear

[frigid kernel]

Your amulet looks really bad.

[solar vigil]

Yeah probably

[frigid kernel]

i crossed out the mods that don't do very much for you

the life on kill is nice, but you should have other sustain that means losing it isn't catastrophic

you can get dot multi suffix

[solar vigil]

My theory was that I get an amulet that lets me swap out the belt for ryslathas coil but idk

[frigid kernel]

if you want to swap an item for coil i'd swap out a ring

[solar vigil]

The belt feels very load bearing

Well the guide still says to use 2 kaoms sign but I get what you mean

[frigid kernel]

does the guide say why

[solar vigil]

For the extra endurance charge

[frigid kernel]

it seems like you are spending an entire ring for one max endurance charge

[solar vigil]

Yeah…

im gonna look at ronarray's bleed glad guide 1 sec

[frigid kernel]

one max endurance charge is very nice, but swapping for a ring with good resistance and getting to use coil is probably better for you

are you following ziz's sst guide?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mGPRKypl6k he has the rings in the guide there

https://pobb.in/shIlZ8ebpX5s

[solar vigil]

It’s lacerate

But yeah it’s ziz’s guide on maxroll

[frigid kernel]

ziz had a recent build roast video where he fixed someone's lacerate build somewhat

that might have good info for you

short term if you want to upgrade to coil i would suggest using a ring that caps your cold and lightning resistances again

https://pobb.in/dcvy9xZwZ4Dh

I moved the marauder life+armor nodes to the axe wheel, changed a ring for resistances, and added coil

[solar vigil]

i have like, 2 amethyst rings i can probs fenegel one into being able to fit ryslathas coil in

[frigid kernel]

the trade website probably has a ring better than the one i ahve listed

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Settlers/op5b6Ksl

[solar vigil]

the build has like, a mapping/bossing swap thing going on, should i even bother?

apparently war of attrition isnt that good

[frigid kernel]

how big is the swap?

changing a few gear pieces for a boss is a good habit

[solar vigil]

its just jagged technique to war of attrition, and a faster bleed node + a life/armor node to 2 bleed duration nodes

also uh, how well rolled does the ryslathas coil need to be?

[frigid kernel]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Settlers/ZjLml7zuQ there's a 75c ring that gives you life, tons of res, and some more damage

[solar vigil]

shouldnt i go for an ameethyst ring instead though?

[pine wedge]

amethyst is generally ideal but it's more expensive

there is a premium for that base

[solar vigil]

yeah id assume

[solar vigil]

also ^

but, these are the two i have rn

[frigid kernel]

they don't have enough resistance

[solar vigil]

yeah

[frigid kernel]

you need ~50 total lightning and ~50 total cold

[solar vigil]

fair enough

[frigid kernel]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Settlers/bGVM3pXcL

you can afford these coils

and those rings

and then you have one less maximum endurance charge

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Settlers/2BXPrgdsk or evne buy one of these coils

and you will have 100c leftover because the belt is 1d and the ring is 75c

[solar vigil]

the best stat there is more max damage right?

hello?

[pine wedge]

Throw them in PoB

[solar vigil]

ok i bought em

lemme see what i come out to

poggers

2 mil should be fine for shaper and elder right?

probs not uber elder tho

[pine wedge]

Depends on how Shaper and Elder go

but honestly you probably could take Uber Elder

you're tanky

[solar vigil]

yeah....

just might take a while without a better axe tho lmao

[pine wedge]

Did you get a new one from the other day?

[solar vigil]

nah

you said shop around more

ill scrounge up another div dw

[pine wedge]

If you get a couple divs you probably could do better

[solar vigil]

yeah

but my goals rn are a dot multi amulet and a good axe for ~1 div

but thanks yall

now it feels like i have real damage

just doubled it lmao

[solar vigil]

is it still worth it to do this if im only going for tujen/dannig?

[pine wedge]

Who's Chalice?

Rog?

probably not. Just sell it ig

[solar vigil]

yeah

idk how to rog craft

[solar vigil]

problem is on the amulet, i do need an open suffix or a chaos res roll

so yeah -.-

[pine wedge]

do you know how to setup that search?

[solar vigil]

oh you can search for empty suffixes?

will that include items that have a crafted suffix and 2 normal ones?

[pine wedge]

If you do the search as shown there it will show amulets that have chaos resistance > 30 OR a crafted suffix OR an empty suffix

[solar vigil]

oh with count

[pine wedge]

and these are not exclusive

[solar vigil]

yeah

[pine wedge]

yep

[solar vigil]

thanks

about how much life should i shoot for on the amulet? 75?

[pine wedge]

what else do you want on it?

like, honestly you want as much as possible

but that can get expensive

so depends on your budget

But you are a gladiator

[solar vigil]

bare minimum i mean

[pine wedge]

that's up to you

generally I would have at least what your amulet currently has

[solar vigil]

ok

[solar vigil]

is there any way to set the trade site to look for stuff that is going for divs or chaos?

[pine wedge]

If you set this to Divine Orbs it'll only show stuff listed in Divines

And ofc set to chaos only show chaos

[solar vigil]

yeah but is there any way to easily do both at once?

[pine wedge]

what do you actually want to do?

Because by default everything is going to be selling in divs or chaos

unless what you're looking for is so cheap it goes for Alchs

[solar vigil]

like, look at stuff up to max 1 div or 185 chaos

incase soemone is selling something good for chaos

but im not sure if theres an easy way to do that

[pine wedge]

Then use chaos orb equivalent

[solar vigil]

ok

[solar vigil]

yeah

[pine wedge]

https://youtu.be/6s2_dfIQCH0?si=-UKbMIIRwabwwLRi

[solar vigil]

Could I try and recombinate these two rings?

To get the ele res I need on top of having the chaos res base?

[solar vigil]

My intuition says to either put em in with the empty suffixes or craft cold and lightning res on both

[fervent raptor]

Craft the opposites on each, yeah

[fervent raptor]

Oh lmao one of the guys doing the lab lottery is going to play green gem witch

[pine wedge]

Hard mode lmao

Good luck to them

[solar vigil]

Oh, the opposites? I assumed I wanted cold and lighting on both

Since I kinda need that to get to 50 ish of both

[fervent raptor]

Yeah so you've got one with cold so craft light, then the one with light craft cold

Gives you a good chance of getting some amount of both in the recomb

[solar vigil]

yeah but dont i need to get cold, lightning, and cold + lightning

or cold, lightning and an open suffix

[fervent raptor]

I'm not sure the chance of hitting all three on the same ring is worth the chance of dropping one of the native modifiers, but it also depends on how much you value the attempt I guess? If it's just a hail mary you're happy to lose then go for it

Although ig it's not a huge amount of difference to getting one of the natives and a craft in the other direction 🤔

[solar vigil]

well, i tried

rip

[fervent raptor]

...at which point it's just one of the base rings, so I guess the triple shot was the only thing worthwhile

Rip anyway

[solar vigil]

i wasnt using em anyways, just wanted to see if i could get some extra chaos res

[fervent raptor]

Boy do I have the keystone for you

[prime spruce]

the new gemcutting screen in poe2 looks very clean

and then support gems

[grizzled hamlet]

oooooh

whats this from

[prime spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yo8kwYE6Hs

i think they're just from b-roll footage that a lot of people got

but Tri talks about them here

there'll also be support gem capacity based on attributes

(at the top of the screen)

oh here's just the raw gameplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tosu2yr8Hs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBx9hEjgaMs ZiggyD also did a new interview with Mark and Johnathon

Default attack can be supported by gems now

[grizzled hamlet]

huh, not sure how i feel about not being able to repeat support gems across a character?

like i can understand it but sometimes a clear and a bossing skill have similarish supports

[prime spruce]

interesting, I think I missed that

[grizzled hamlet]

it was in the tri video

[solar vigil]

oh huh theyre dividing it by weapon type now not class

[prime spruce]

I guess it's something we'll need to see in action

[solar vigil]

the elemental/occult/primal division is interesting

[prime spruce]

and yeah, i think by weapon makes more sense, since skills are more tied to weapons now than in poe1

[solar vigil]

curious why theres no divine spells but thats just my pathfinder brain

[prime spruce]

some of those like smite i assume are under weapons

but not sure about wave of conviction

[solar vigil]

elemental id assume?

[prime spruce]

yeah, since it's phys and ele

[solar vigil]

its still (sorta) divided by class since weve got one type here per class but yeah

im curious if i can pull off quarterstaff and primal on the second set on monk

but ill just do what comes naturally my first time

[solar vigil]

oh fuck this is a good axe

i am SCROUNGING up a div as fast as possible

awww its gone

ah, was mispriced

thats a 20 div axe lmao

[solar vigil]

should i be looking for an axe with dot multi rn or is that gonna be way too pricy

[pine wedge]

https://youtu.be/wuq3apeRx20?si=oKqy7nSxxaVpgN0b

Bunch of PoE2 B-roll

[solar vigil]

wouldnt this be a really good base to craft on?

oh, this one just popped up too

[fervent raptor]

Is that not mispriced, too?

That's like 4 divines in just the deterministic crafting

[solar vigil]

which one?

[fervent raptor]

The bottom one

Although ngl pretty sure they fucked the crafting

Looks like they went contempt into hybrid + open prefix+suffix (possibly annual luck)

Clean suffixes, multimod + slam

[solar vigil]

i see

well its still a major upgrade for me lol

[fervent raptor]

But if they were at the stage of having flat Phys, hybrid and open prefix they probably should have cleaned suffixes, prefix lock, veiled orb and multimod

The elder base is a pretty good idea though? Can hit a couple of amazing prefixes as well as the hybrid

[solar vigil]

why is golden oil a divine

oh god do i need to farm blight

ughhhhhhhhh

[pine wedge]

golden oil is rare and used for the best anoints

[solar vigil]

yeah...

this build is telling me to annoint endurance for the new amulet

which is a clear, a black and a golden

[solar vigil]

2.5 mil now :3

[pine wedge]

hell yeah

surprising what a little shopping and light respeccing can do

[solar vigil]

the amulet is gonna be like another 350k ish? it seems like

little under 350k

[hollow geyser]

Turns out the Grim Dawn devs are doing monthly updates on the new goodies coming in the Asterkarn expansion in 2025 so next update is Sep. 23, 2024, this month's dev update reveals that you can update epic items to legendaries in the expansion and they get new themed goodies:
https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/grim-misadventure-184-unusually-itemized/138046

[rustic grotto]

Vaal orbs on maps stop giving me elemental reflect challenge: impossible

[fervent raptor]

If you just need the map completion then solving that problem is one regret

Change your minor pantheon to the 60% reflect reduction and your elemental skill wheel mastery to the 50% reduction

The only thing that'll really work against you if you do that is Shock

[rustic grotto]

I need the atlas points tho

[fervent raptor]

Yeah that's what I mean

Do the swap, complete the map for the points

[rustic grotto]

Don't have elemental skill wheel allocated, alas

[fervent raptor]

Really? What're you playing?

[rustic grotto]

CWS DD/RF Chieftain

[fervent raptor]

Huh, does DD not work with the res inversion mastery then?

[pine wedge]

RF doesn't care about ele reflect right?

[fervent raptor]

True - if you can clear without the CWS then you're golden

[pine wedge]

Are you in HC?

[rustic grotto]

god no

[pine wedge]

Might just want to give it a try because as a chieftain you might have enough fire resist to face tank to part of DD that is reflected

Also, yeah you can just RF everything down

It'll take forever true

But remove the CWS and peace out while the boss slowly dies

[rustic grotto]

https://pobb.in/tPHKvqNJy50F Still a work in progress

[fervent raptor]

Oh I'm an idiot it'll be DD ignite, right?

That's why you don't care about the mastery

[fervent raptor]

I rolled dice to see what I was playing for this lab lotto and it came up Shadow Green so

[solar vigil]

I’m curious are claws just gone in poe 2?

[solar vigil]

I guess they might still be in just to let you give stats to your unarmed attacks?

[pine wedge]

GGG posted a new PoE2 marketing video

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011186842709803039/1276724030652809320/image.png?ex=66ca9169&is=66c93fe9&hm=114cc4714069e20156e79a463c72cabf3aa763c861e9de6192f3ec64b8a014e9&

GGG

who is that

I need to know

now

[prime spruce]

Ooh, that's a very interesting design

[prime spruce]

https://imgur.com/a/path-of-exile-2-gem-info-from-gamestar-gameplay-video-omVLjgs

Big album full of support gems

[pine wedge]

Focused Curse sounds like a no brainer

Decaying Hex sounds fun tho

Curse Chaos DoT nonsense

Probably a more late game option tho

because 10% of int ain't much early on

[fervent raptor]

So my lab lotto ended me playing BA of Vigour Assassin

[pine wedge]

Well, better stat stacking that HP

[fervent raptor]

aaaand dead

[solar vigil]

F

[rustic grotto]

Did they buff Searing Exarch at some point

I swear he wasn't this annoying last time

[pine wedge]

Nope, no buffs

[solar vigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/s/MjoafUoGcD

flicker strike is a quarterstaff skill now

The other weapon tabs had nothing in them

Im totally doing a flicker strike monk at some point

Maybe not first time through but eventually

Quick q: do shaper and elder have buffed hp in Uber elder or do they have the same amount of health, you’re just fighting both at once

[pine wedge]

Slightly more for the Elder and noticeably less for the Shaper

Note that the actual uber varients of bosses don't actually buff their HP

They just have a 70% less damage taken modifier

Our biggest piece of advice for fighting them is always know what Shaper is up to.

Elder is generally close range and obvious about what he's doing

Meanwhile Shaper could be prepping a laser off screen

Or TPing for a slam

[rustic grotto]

god Hinekora, Death's Fury ignite procs are so meaty

[solar vigil]

you have different atlas passive trees per character right?

[pine wedge]

Nope

They're shared

[fervent raptor]

You have three atlas trees total that you can switch between, but they (and all your atlas progress) are shared between characters

[solar vigil]

ah

[fervent raptor]

So I've ripped a few times and I'm now on green gem templar

The current idea is to use Pillar of the Caged God and hit either a Phys spell or a strike that I can use trauma support with

Which is what I wanted to do with red gem Scion but I hit absolute dogshit gems

And ended up playing Gen Cry Bladestorm of Uncertainty

(this is not a build)

I think the problem with Scion for this challenge is that I'm essentially unascended until act 7 or w/e when I can take on Cruel Lab

also as an aside, templar start kinda blows

ele prolif for your "support" gem??

[frigid kernel]

you can't use a spell with trauma support iirc

[fervent raptor]

I know, but spells have base phys

[frigid kernel]

otherwise something like bladefall trauma could ger crazy

you cannot support a spell with a gem that can only support attacks

[fervent raptor]

I didn't say you could

[frigid kernel]

unless that spell has an attack component, like a minion that has attacks

[fervent raptor]

I want a phys spell

or

a strike skill I can support with trauma

[frigid kernel]

oh

i thought you wanted (a phys spell or strike skill) i can support with trauma

[fervent raptor]

I need the base phys for PotCG to scale

[frigid kernel]

this is a certified english language moment

[fervent raptor]

as it has boat loads of inc phys% (strength stack dependant) but its own phys for attacks is awful

[frigid kernel]

makes sense

although with trauma support the deck stacking might also be really helpful because you need to build up enough stacks and all of the melee skills have a way higher damage effectiveness now

[fervent raptor]

depends on the skills I get

[frigid kernel]

are you doing the hardcore ssf trans gem first lab yolo thing?

[fervent raptor]

yup

we had a guy mapping with lightning tendrils

[frigid kernel]

lol

[fervent raptor]

you cannot convince me lightning tendrils is a real skill

[frigid kernel]

i feel like that would not be terrible to throw on a totem

[fervent raptor]

idk, they were self cast hiero afaik

[frigid kernel]

i feel like ignite lightning tendrils of eccentricity elementalist could be something

with whispers of doom and elemental equilibrium it could could get tons of -fire res with a double curse setup

[fervent raptor]

it was escalation I'm p sure

anyway I feel like picking an on-colour gem is slightly against the meme spirit, but w/e

[frigid kernel]

if i'm a heiro who has to use that skill i'd definitely put it on a totem

is it a specific pl or just a regular challenge?

[fervent raptor]

PL

nothing stopping you running it personally though, and I might carry on memeing

guy at the top of the LB is red gem slayer and like, sure you go off king more power to you but stop being an ass about it when other people are running like, red ranger or green witch lol

also fwiw DE makes basically no difference to how good trauma is for a skill - it's aspd and how well you can stack it

DE is only relevant for comparing one skill to another

arguably skills with a lower DE are more likely to take trauma better as they tend to have a faster attack rate and can stack it more

[frigid kernel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTpblcSudhM

[solar vigil]

uhhhh has anyone seen a good FB trickster guide?

cant you do that on warden trickster or slayer

zish's guide switched to warden

[solar vigil]

i kinda wish pob had atlas tree built in

[fervent raptor]

okay I'm an idiot

just actually reread Pillar and it's Physical Weapon Damage, not just inc Phys

so spells are out lol

[frigid kernel]

i think people are doing ls on ci trickster w/ ephemeral edge for melee

[solar vigil]

Understandable

[cinder shoal]

Blessed be the blight for gifting me 5 divine orbs over two maps

[fervent raptor]

Was on the wrong ascendancy to try and meme poison FragShatter

[solar vigil]

no death uber elder 😎

this build is cracked

[fervent raptor]

I've discovered an interesting interaction which is probably useless but still interesting

this line on Autoexertion makes you bypass the Arrogance reservation multiplier but still reserves your life

[solar vigil]

can i go through a maven beam with flame dash?

did maven and choked on the last phase again

idk if theres anything i can do build wise to help or if its just a skill issue

i swapped sanctuary for endurance on my annoint and idk if that was a mistake or not

[solar vigil]

this is what putting sacntuary back on gives me

and this is where im at with endurance (ive got 7 endurance charges max with it)

[fervent raptor]

Is that GB block or straight?

[solar vigil]

GB block?

[fervent raptor]

Glancing Blows

[solar vigil]

Uhhhh idk

I don’t think so

Lemme post the pob

[fervent raptor]

Ngl I don't think the anoint will change much for you - I think at this point you're looking at the best defense being "ending the fight quicker"

[solar vigil]

https://pobb.in/cnPlaiE5qebd

[fervent raptor]

so one immediate thing is that cruelty is padding your DPS as you're not hitting max effect on pinnacles

[solar vigil]

im using the maxroll guide, and it swaps cruelty for endurance charge on melee stun

on bosses

and i forgot to do that

[solar vigil]

oh

what do pinnacles do on that?

[fervent raptor]

to max cruelty against a pinnacle you need to hit 200k+ in a single hit, but your average damage was like 50k

from a quick look over I'm not especially convinced by a few of the mechanics boss damage-wise, so I'd maybe look over similar people on poe.ninja to see what sorts of things they're doing

I don't really see how you're maintaining endus against pinnacles and I don't think you're going to stun much, either?

I don't profess to be an expert so it's entirely possible I'm just wrong, but it feels odd

[solar vigil]

does the same go for guardian bosses or should i keep on cruelty for those

[fervent raptor]

I would be inclined to drop cruelty on something that's not a bleed slam, yeah

[solar vigil]

i got a redeemer exalted orb but idk how i can use it

or like

what to put it on

or sell it

[pine wedge]

sell it

Influenced item crafting is not easy

It's 1.5 div on the trade site

just enjoy the money tbh

[solar vigil]

ok

@frigid kernel so i got another maven's writ, do you wanna sit down sometime and optimize my build before i try it again

i did just exalt slam a 41% increased armor and evasion on my shiled tho

[solar vigil]

MAVEN DOWN LETS GOOOOOOOO

@frigid kernel

had 2 portals left

not sure if i really vibed with war of attrition, i had to watch her health bar and see if the bleeds aggrivated

wich like

eh

rather not have to worry about that

why i picked lacerate is so i dont have to constantly hit the boss so

[frigid kernel]

GG

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/QTz_ffMOoP8

tldw, 700k value threshhold to semi consistently get divines

send 50 million orders to semi consistently get mirror shards

[solar vigil]

yoooo

its awakened poe trade

[solar vigil]

i got another one

lmao

[solar vigil]

unfucked my boots and got a nice chest and gloves upgrade

thanks sirus

[rustic grotto]

fack, died in an ultimatum with divs riding on it

[pine wedge]

Oooff

that always sucks

[grizzled hamlet]

poggies

[pine wedge]

hell yeah

enjoy the divs

[solar vigil]

woagh

[rustic grotto]

My drop luck has been utterly abysmal this league

I haven't seen a raw div drop in like two weeks

Except for the one that came up on Ulti that I got suddenly one shot by something

[grizzled hamlet]

honestly i think i have under 5 raw div drops total this league?

my two biggest drops so far are the fracturing orb and another thing i sold for 5ish div

all the rest was just made from selling cheapish stuff on the auction house

[rustic grotto]

I got one from a map runner, a few from selling a void key and the rest have come from trading up chaos from random shit that's sold

[grizzled hamlet]

if you can manage t16 8 mod harbis
im getting like
20-25c raw chaos per map

• a ton of other stuff

also, i undersold my fracturing orb
felt bad for missing out on like 80c of profit
so i listed a wtb for one
and now im reselling it for higher

[rustic grotto]

I have a harbi tree and a Ulti tree I can run, usually at t16 with only reflect ele and reduced health regen being the bricks

[grizzled hamlet]

this is my setup

[rustic grotto]

https://pobb.in/Tx4Ky132r-S0

[grizzled hamlet]

and im having a good chill time

ayyy

cws gang

[pine wedge]

If you run harbis long enough you have a decent chance at a mirror shard drop

[rustic grotto]

I need more map slots...

[pine wedge]

which does in fact get doubled

[grizzled hamlet]

the t17 map slot is like 40c on tft

and the maven 10 boss invite one is easy to do on your own

[rustic grotto]

CWS does kinda slap

[grizzled hamlet]

https://pobb.in/3rIDT8iPsJeE

my current setup

[rustic grotto]

poggies

[grizzled hamlet]

which is honestly scuffed af

still using a singularity and all that lol

[solar vigil]

tiny fort....

i didnt know they could generate like this

[grizzled hamlet]

average nyc fort

[solar vigil]

bro was paying $2,500/month for this shit

[grizzled hamlet]

bro was paying 100 div a month

[grizzled hamlet]

i did try ulti but it legit puts me to sleep

[rustic grotto]

I was mostly doing it to funnel a Hateforge to an alt

[grizzled hamlet]

makes sense

[rustic grotto]

What would I need to look for on TFT for the t17 map slot?

[grizzled hamlet]

https://discord.com/channels/645607528297922560/1220861530547945602

[solar vigil]

does this atlas node here increase the chances for veiled items to drop?

[grizzled hamlet]

i dont think so

since its rarity not quant?

but im not 100% on that

[solar vigil]

yeah i couldnt find a straight answer

[pine wedge]

Tbh, those nodes probably aren't worth the time

[solar vigil]

im curious, whats my best bet to make a life on block shield out of a lacquered buckler?

with spell supress

and life and some reses

[fervent raptor]

uh, maybe recombs?

greed ess a shaper base until you hit desirable suppress, and buy any lgob dex shields from trade n hope

[solar vigil]

ive gone through a good few greed essences and i havent hit supress once

[fervent raptor]

CoE gave an average of 13 to hit T3 with 67% confidence

[solar vigil]

i see

[fervent raptor]

suppress has a pretty low weighting overall but nowhere near as bad as lgob

it's like 5000/84475

while lgob is 800

[solar vigil]

ok

and i want the same base when i go to recomb it right?

[fervent raptor]

as long as they're both shaper dex you're good, but yeah if they're not both lacquered then you could get the less desirable one

not sure how easy finding lgob lacquereds are on trade

[frigid kernel]

it seems like we are getting about 50% less actual loot

[grizzled hamlet]

I mean, I'm also the richest I've ever been ever
Outside of like wildwood when I got a mageblood

But magebloods were under 100 div then lol

[grizzled hamlet]

and this is why im sticking with farming strats that are "90% things you can sell on the auction house"

guy had 60 div of maps in stock and is tired of selling them

[grizzled hamlet]

also a huge money saver this league has been running betrayal as my starter atlas passive tree

cause now i can shop for a ton of items -1 crafted mod

and craft it myself

i think i saved multiple divines on crafting - mana cost on rings instead of buying them pre crafted

[grizzled hamlet]

idk why but 8 mod defiled cathedrals are way better than 8 mod jungle valleys for harbingers

i feel like im getting a decent amount more shards per map

[cinder shoal]

Well, this is the first time I've defeated uber bosses and the maven, good league for me.

[grizzled hamlet]

[cinder shoal]

Also on this, blight has been very generous to me. Gold oils and divines dropping on the regular for next to no effort.

[grizzled hamlet]

blight is fun!

it does take like two weeks for oil prices to go up

so its not worth selling silver/golden/tainted oils week 1/2

start of week 3 is like, when gold prices start being worth

same for tainteds lol

you see where people start going for corrupts on their amulets that they need annoints on

cause tainteds go from "who cares" to "im basically a golden or more"

but ye blight rules

and is very chill

[grizzled hamlet]

Apothecary tink

and its gone (harvest gamble)

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/aPACyPI_mj4

i didnt know this...

[solar vigil]

Oh I didn’t know you could do that with vendors at all, lmao

[solar vigil]

Just so I know, what melee builds are good/popular on any shadow ascendancy rn?

[grizzled hamlet]

lightning strike

viper strike of the mamba

[pine wedge]

LS CI Trickster

[grizzled hamlet]

flicker strike

[pine wedge]

Is extremely strong

Using Ephemeral Edge

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/xn1i6_5C5_I

https://youtu.be/UmcUsKlkWVM

[grizzled hamlet]

@rustic grotto recombinators good actually

[solar vigil]

Are any of those builds not ci

[pine wedge]

CI is amazing on Trickster rn

so no

[solar vigil]

Not even viper strike?

Thought that was assassin

[pine wedge]

Overwehlmingly Trickster and Pathfinder

because it's all about a single uber poison

[solar vigil]

I see

[pine wedge]

92% of the Trickster Viper Strike of the Mamba builds are CI

[solar vigil]

I really hope they rework assassin

It seems underpowered

[pine wedge]

That seems to be a common opinion

Looks like people play Assassin mostly for Sanctum

Top three abilities

[grizzled hamlet]

trickster is by far the best shadow ascendancy

captain fall did an assassin if you want that specifically

https://youtu.be/48XLCP-imA8

[pine wedge]

Yes, but that's a CaptainLance build

which is

investment: yes

[grizzled hamlet]

this one is only 30div

[solar vigil]

good to know

thanks

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/MiEXGGK00KE power siphon mine trickster can go hybrid instead of ci depending on how you do it

int stack is def CI
but if you go poison perfect agony, then hybrid is good

disclaimer tho

mines

double disclaimer
locus mines (you need to throw them a minimum distance away from you)

[keen dagger]

love to have a 7L in my hat

[grizzled hamlet]

tried out a simulacrum again

i can now consistently do the full thing

not fully deathless, but consistent with 2-3 portals

[hollow geyser]

Portals are their own defensive layer

[rustic grotto]

What the fuck

[grizzled hamlet]

[keen dagger]

haven't they always been cracked

[grizzled hamlet]

They needed a slight buff at the start of the league

But they're back to being really cracked

[pine wedge]

They're cracked in a different way

Like, for example making 7 link daggers

in a league where 7 link daggers are absurdly powerful

Basically, if you can only have one of a modifier normally they're not great

but if you can have multiple but they're rare

they're really good

[rustic grotto]

I wouldn't know how to even start getting something like that

[pine wedge]

good news! There's a tutorial on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1eybrgw/mirror_vls_dagger_using_new_recombination/

https://youtu.be/sm9pymG1eWk?si=i0YThDIBOq8syN9r

[rustic grotto]

That made my brain hurt

[grizzled hamlet]

The 7 helmet is easy

Use the 30% more damage essences on 2 elder bases, until you get one with burning damage and one with conc effect
Then recombine and pray
Repeat till succesful

Usually you'll get a base back where you need to just remake 1 of the bases so that's fine

I got a case where I had conc effect and burning damage on one helm, but it deleted the % more

So I just slammed an essence on a second base and recombined those

And it worked

[rustic grotto]

I...see

Might have to give this a shot

[fervent raptor]

Power Siphon ignores Locus Mine targeting

Which is why PS miner is popular

Oh distance not weird targeting disclaimer my ability to read recently has been somewhat less than stellar

Still though, with the targeting bypass throwing the mines far enough is more just a habit thing than a real consideration

[grizzled hamlet]

Yes but it's still awkward throwing them out sometimes

Source: I played the build

[fervent raptor]

Fairy nuff

[prime spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GGhW8WGgig

Another ZiggyD interview. They've walked back the flask charge changes, you'll be able to get them from monsters again, and won't have to go back to town often to recharge

[solar vigil]

Thank god

That was a weird descision

[frigid kernel]

that's good

[frigid kernel]

apparently peope stitched this together from various trailers

[keen dagger]

classic poe fanbase

[solar vigil]

Cool skill tree tbh

Funny that the minion wheel at the top there looks like a person

[rustic grotto]

dangit, lost the 30% more damage on low life mod

[grizzled hamlet]

i got the same result, and the combined it with a helm that had the 30% roll on it

[rustic grotto]

I did just exalt slam a t1 +% armour onto it

The "correct" play would probably be shooting to annul the flat armour but knowing me I'd hit one of the elders

[grizzled hamlet]

hmm, i can do mega juiced t17s to farm for scarabs, but idk if its worth it without being able to kill the boss

since the boss drop kinda accounts for the map cost

[frigid kernel]

are the uber shards that expensive?

[grizzled hamlet]

eater and maven are
the others dont fully cover the cost but are a decent chunk too

[fervent raptor]

I am possibly being an agent of my own future misery here

decided to level a trapper as I've never played one, nor really a build that's much more a bosser than being a generalist

and like all good twink runs I've got some decent speed gear for it, but also wow

start of A3 - this is representative, right?

[grizzled hamlet]

yes

level stacking is pretty common

[fervent raptor]

oh I mean like, for maybe league starting in future

probably not going to have +5 gems from lvl 12

lvl 27 and just insta phased Izaro on the prestack

so close to a nice chunk of change

[cinder shoal]

Just slap one gemcutter on it and nobody will know the difference.

[pine wedge]

The issue is not the quality but the gem itself

[fervent raptor]

love to see it

[fervent raptor]

someone just sold me this for 50c

4600 evasion at 20q

[solar vigil]

I mean… it’s a 5L and no suppress but damn

[cinder shoal]

Links and sockets are relatively easy to fix

[solar vigil]

yeah.... just hope you got the currency lol

[pine wedge]

bubblegum currency is cheap this league

[fervent raptor]

Suppression capped from the tree so that's a non-issue

Works out at 782 ES on Trickster

[solar vigil]

nice

are you CI or?

[fervent raptor]

Nah

Trapping so don't have the polymath sustain

Or leech

[solar vigil]

nice

[fervent raptor]

Pretty sure a hybrid base is better if ES is more of a primary defense

[solar vigil]

i see

[fervent raptor]

Yeah Necrotic Armour runs 3600+ evasion and 750 or so ES

Which ends up being 1350ES for your Trickster on top of a chunk of EVA

Well, at the top end anyway - it's multiple divines though

[grizzled hamlet]

6 links are extremely cheap this league

130c to be more precise rn

or for 1 div you can buy 2 6l

[grizzled hamlet]

god, having currency is so nice
i love being able to just
drop 13 divines on a small upgrade (chance to ignite tattoos)

[cinder shoal]

this is the first league where I've had this much currency and it's great, though admittedly I'm kind of petering out on what to do now

don't know how to scale currency generation to pay for the bigbux stuff

[grizzled hamlet]

i wanna get a mageblood but it seems far away

[pine wedge]

The way you make money is simple: find a mechanic you like, and then buy a whole pile of scarabs for it

There are plenty of good youtube videos on farming stratagies

[grizzled hamlet]

also i bitch but
i gambled the apothecary i dropped away

and gambled one i bought away

i could be 2/5th of the way there

but i decided to be funny :3

[hollow geyser]

Clearly 3 more apothecary gambles can't go wrong

[grizzled hamlet]

clearly!

i also have been spending stuff on upgrades so its not like ive just been doing nothing with my money

[cinder shoal]

I made a lot of money with Blight but it kinda feels like there's more I could/should be doing. I'm admittedly at the point where I could probably just focus on grinding XP for lv100 (currently at 97) running T16 poorjoys/trials/abyss+breach maps and just get that out of the way.

It's just like, blight is nice and simple it just isn't consistent big bigbux.

[rustic grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572191243149508661/1283682293126402048/20240912075042_1.jpg?ex=66e3e1cc&is=66e2904c&hm=90b86bb67e72129cf877ef56f5cd888c9ccb4a4fdbd13e063e7c14099997dcad&

When the scarabs hit just right

[grizzled hamlet]

So slightly unethical script cause it clicks multiple times
But i was tired of crafting using a regex and clicking over when i got the mods i needed
So i made an autoclicker that clicks until the regex matches and then stops and detoggles itself

i use it mostly to craft flasks

but it can be used for anything where you spam click till a regex matches

[frigid kernel]

I usually regex altspam multiple flasks

[fervent raptor]

once again reminded of how silly Nycta's Lantern is

3d craft vs 5c unique

a mere 43d to get 20% more damage

[grizzled hamlet]

would it be cheaper to craft something better?

[fervent raptor]

oh in fairness I hadn't changed the 6th link there

huh, I wonder why the guy suggested the rapier craft, then

[grizzled hamlet]

movement skill preference maybe?

[fervent raptor]

nah it was specifically for the phys as extra stuff but

could be that I'm just lacking stats elsewhere

okay I've got a craft in mind

[desert inlet]

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[keen dagger]

I can do 3 canadian dollars

[grizzled hamlet]

guess im pushing for 100

[keen dagger]

over 10k life hell yeah

[cinder shoal]

yeah i'm at like 97 and 60% it's enticing to start the focused grind

I guess it'd just be a ton of poorjoys or something

[grizzled hamlet]

honestly i forget my actual life value, since i reserve a ton of it and have the option to only see the unreserved part

[grizzled hamlet]

theres a bunch of guides on youtube for xp grinding

its usually breach + something else + scarabs

[grizzled hamlet]

i had a shrine at the time apparently

[cinder shoal]

I've been using 2x Abyss + 2x Abyss (+75% enemy spawns) + 1 Breach scarabs with a breach/abyss atlas tree setup that works pretty well. Running it on relatively linear or circular maps like Toxic Sewer or Defiled Cathedral

[grizzled hamlet]

i just farm stacked decks in 8 mod toxic sewers ~w~

very chill, decently safe

[pine wedge]

I personally ran high density Harbingers for 100

[grizzled hamlet]

harbis are fun too!

[grizzled hamlet]

oh also if you can afford em

for the freak one shots that happen now and then

[cinder shoal]

losing only 2.5% instead of 10% at such high levels is such a big deal

absolutely worth carrying

[grizzled hamlet]

yeah it makes hours of difference

[grizzled hamlet]

of course i say this, then promptly forget to put the omens back after a big trade

rip 10% xp you will be missed

[grizzled hamlet]

i half dont want to go to 100 now

[frigid kernel]

You 31% don't?

[grizzled hamlet]

you know, i swear to god path drop rng is rolled per day or like, per instance your starting maps from

ive had days where i get nothing at all in maps

and days where i drop a divine every other map

days with nothing
and then days i get multiple of the same high value omen in a row

[cinder shoal]

Seconded.

As an aside, having so much currency that I can just decide I want to respec an entire atlas passive tree on a whim is really novel and cool.

[grizzled hamlet]

yeah it feels nice

[grizzled hamlet]

[cinder shoal]

don't flub

[grizzled hamlet]

at worst i got to 96

i did stop taking altars once i got to 90%

[cinder shoal]

Mercifully I'm immune to like all but two searing altar effects and one of those is just if I get greedy and take a bunch of -defense ones and eat shit

[grizzled hamlet]

i mostly dont care about them

but just in case

[cinder shoal]

anyway congrats you did it

[grizzled hamlet]

took me 11 years, but i got there

first level 100

[cinder shoal]

I've been on POE break for binging deadlock, and the other day I got bored and started a dancing dervish witch up to like lvl 60-something

but back to the main character soon

[grizzled hamlet]

goal for next league, buy apothecaries until i get a mageblood through harvest gamba (i lost 7 attempts at it this league lol)

[rustic grotto]

I kinda ran out of steam at 94 and wasn't getting anything from even t17s so drifted away, which is a shame as I'd have liked to have finished the infinite LS build on my scion

[cinder shoal]

poggers

a cool 43 divines from that shipment

[frigid kernel]

if you want you can simulate this by trading me the first 5 cards and then i'll give them back at the end

[solar vigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/QSp6mNqcsH

[fickle junco]

got a question about Last Epoch. I'm playing in the latest cycle and cleared all the normal monos to unlock empowered monos for the first time. but all the zones are level 100 and I'm still level 84 and mobs are hitting me really hard. should I grind out levels somewhere else before tackling empowered monos?

[pine wedge]

You need to grind out gear not levels

Levelling in normal monos is not going to be pleasant

What do your resists look like?

[fickle junco]

I have a couple upgrades sitting in my stash but they're level 85/86

all capped

1820 health pool

[pine wedge]

Are you crit immune?

[fickle junco]

yup, 107% crit strike avoidance

[keen dagger]

do you have another defensive layer ?

are you killing stuff fast enough to avoid some damage that way?

[pine wedge]

I guess the real question is what class are you playing because if you're playing Rogue your defensive layers are going to be very RNG.

[fickle junco]

I'm playing a healing hands paladin (also for the first time) so kind of? I can heal up very fast as long as I have something to hit but it can still get scary at times

[keen dagger]

at least for me getting to empowered monoliths was a huge spike in difficulty. but once you've run them for a while you get used to having to play a bit more carefully. regular monos you can kinda just yolo into mobs and live.

[fickle junco]

okay that helps a lot. I guess what I was really wondering was if the difficulty spike that I encountered was expected or if I was doing something wrong

but that answers it. thanks!

[keen dagger]

yeah your stats/build sound fine so it's probably just that

[pine wedge]

Even my meta slave Warlock can't yolo into a pack and expect to survive

[fickle junco]

my gear's just whatever dropped during normal monos so I still need to craft or grind out some gear to turn some of those resists into other stats

[keen dagger]

you probably don't need 200% fire resist yeah

[pine wedge]

(unless you're fire resist stacking in which case that's too low lol)

(but don't think Pally fire resist stacks)

[keen dagger]

idk if hh paladin works with any of the uncapped fire res scaling stuff yeah

[fickle junco]

I'm learning this lesson very quickly

[keen dagger]

don't stand in the bad

[fickle junco]

normal monos taught me some bad habits 😅

[keen dagger]

definitely hope they improve the power curve a bit between normal and empowered monos

it's a lot of game to play to get to the challenging part

[prime spruce]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3579429/page/1#p25461110

Early access to work like the 3.0 early access, either buy a supporter pack or have met a lifetime threshold for payments

Supposedly Ziz has said that the lifetime threshold is $480

[grizzled hamlet]

Good to know

[keen dagger]

480$ jesus christ

[pine wedge]

https://youtu.be/u0sgOXC8l_8

[grizzled hamlet]

It was the same for 3.0 afaik
Either a 30$(I think) pack or 480$ lifetime

[pine wedge]

going on the announcement. Sirgog is generally good info tho so figured I post him

[keen dagger]

I'll probably buy a supporter pack who am I kidding

[grizzled hamlet]

I think I have the lifetime one

[keen dagger]

I have probably spent around 150 bucks on PoE

[grizzled hamlet]

I try not to think about the number lol

[prime spruce]

Yeah I'm fairly sure i qualify for the lifetime one too, but im probably going to end up buying a pack anyway. Which if its like 3.0 again, i think you can give the pack key away if you don't use it

[grizzled hamlet]

Oh same
I have a 3.0 t-shirt
So might go for this one too if they have a t-shirt pack ~w~

[prime spruce]

I have the atlas of worlds t-shirt, but not the 3.0 one. But if there is a new T-shirt I'll likely do that too

[fervent raptor]

I'm p sure I qualify for the lifetime one haha

[prime spruce]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Path_of_Exile_2_Wiki the poe wiki people have already set up a poe2 wiki, as a heads up for next month!

[grizzled hamlet]

Hell yeah

[hollow geyser]

Grim Dawn devs talked a bit about the new mastery coming in the expansion next year, Berserker, for all your shapeshifting needs:
https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/grim-misadventure-185-howl-do-you-do/138856

[ashen lotus]

Damn, they're adding Even More Stuff?

[grizzled hamlet]

Oooooh

Hype

[hollow geyser]

Yeah they got a whole expansion coming out early 2025

[ember nimbus]

No lvl increase thankfully 😅 just a new “act”/area and new modes of play

[prime spruce]

Theres a new community league for Grim Dawn coming soon too! Probably gonna check it out when it releases

[ashen lotus]

Wow, I'm amazed that game's still holding on

And, I mean, I'm glad, it's an excellent game, and I love it (even if I'm too dumb to properly finish it and get to the endgame)

[prime spruce]

It's probably my favorite after poe, and it's the only arpg i really like playing in HC since it's fully offline

[hollow geyser]

Yeah having a pause button is a huge deal along with being able to zoom the camera out a little further than POE

[ashen lotus]

Indeed, it's also aesthetically brilliant
My issue is, I keep getting lost

[hollow geyser]

Yeah the maps are real big and there's not a clearly marked "go here" path

[ashen lotus]

Yep
Which is why I keep getting just
Completely lost sooner or later

[fickle junco]

I've gone through the campaign like 10 times now and there are still some spots in Ugdenbog that I get lost in

[hollow geyser]

Luckily getting lost there just results in fabulous loot from all the exploding plants so it works out okay for crafting

[desert inlet]

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[prime spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2zus8ux73s

[solar vigil]

i totally dont blame them

when did poe 1 come out?

they gotta unfuck that old server architecture

stuff going wrong with this could loose people thier accounts, you cant fuck around with this

[prime spruce]

The original release was like 2013, and yeah, I don't blame them for wanting to be careful at all

[keen dagger]

😭

i guess im not actually sad i have more time to finish the other games im playing now

supporting all the mtxs people bought in 1 in the new game is a capital R Real move

[solar vigil]

what im curious about is wheres the poe 1 league

[prime spruce]

yeah, it's something I'm really glad they're doing, especially considering the sheer amount of mtxs there are

[solar vigil]

i sure hope that they arent planning to release both at the same time

that seems like a bad idea

[prime spruce]

They've talked about staggering releases of poe 1 and 2 leagues, so I can't imagine they'll do that

it's likely the next poe 1 league will be delayed a bit as well

[solar vigil]

probs

[cinder shoal]

Good, I need a few more days to reach 100 (I keep fumbling around 85%)

[frigid kernel]

chaos dot skills are still very bad

[solar vigil]

Ah yes, the announcement of the announcement, everything is going back to normal https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/NLEIrnDU7T

[pine wedge]

https://youtu.be/DBGEgFjBW2w?si=ZLYKilHVgro_yWdZ

[cinder shoal]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

wooooooooo

[solar vigil]

pog

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3584433/page/1#p25473802

not unexpected

[solar vigil]

nice

hrm.

are there any non-mines or trap based shadow build that is good rn?

and has a detailed guide

[cinder shoal]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3472898
this is what I just reached 100 with

[solar vigil]

Ok I should have specified league starter

[grizzled hamlet]

non mines or trap
hmmm
could do brands?
or some poison variant?

[solar vigil]

Just thinking about what to do for this new league

Might cave and do ice trap but eh

Wanted to see what other options there were

[pine wedge]

GGG showing off some abilities for Merc that really fit the horror setting of PoE

https://youtu.be/jiFS1GcNZQk?si=EWQp9l55Y66-nKPP

||Aka a fucking stun grenade and a charged laser gun||

[frigid kernel]

I think srs guardian is a solid starter

It might not be "super meta" or whatever but it's still strong enough

It can easily push 2m DPS on very little gear

[frigid kernel]

https://pobb.in/u/Subtractem/srs-guardian

i'm going to do this ssf but probably opt to drop whispers of doom in favor of whatever other nodes i wanna click

[solar vigil]

I mentioned shadow specifically

[frigid kernel]

oh i didnt read that far up

lightning strike

ls trickster

[solar vigil]

Yeah maybe?

Does that just level with ls or what

[frigid kernel]

the best trickster leveling is probably locus mine power siphon

the best builds in gauntlet were locus mine power siphon trickster that went ci ls once they found ephemeral edge

[solar vigil]

yeah...

uh, any reccomendation on a comprehensive guide?

league starter ovbs

[cinder shoal]

Can always do some kind of cobra lash chaining setup, it's hard to wrong with chaos damage

[frigid kernel]

as long as your spell doesn't say "chaos damage over time" this is pretty true

[cinder shoal]

back in my day contagion + essence drain was TOP TIER and SUPER GOOD

👨‍🦯

back in my day we didn't have these schmancy trade windows, we went into The Coast and stood 20m apart then dropped our trade items on the ground and ran past each other to pick up whatever we were buying

[solar vigil]

fuck it

im doing frost blades trickster

ive always wanted to do it

i just need to find a good guide

[solar vigil]

Is there a guide that at least has a leveling section for frost blade trickster?

[cinder shoal]

prolly somewhere

apparently frost blades of katabasis is relatively more popular than the base skill

oh neat

Unlike the original skill, this transfigured version has a greater range and no projectiles. Instead, if it hits, the attack leaves a ground effect that both chills (chilled ground) and deals cold damage over time.

https://poe.ninja/builds/settlers/character/델피스/KalGuur_DelPhis_B?type=exp&i=78&search=skills%3DFrost%2BBlades%2Bof%2BKatabasis
holy hell this guy's weapon

just your average 8-link claw

https://poe.ninja/builds/settlers?skills=Frost+Blades+of+Katabasis&class=Trickster
it's not full builds but you can at least pick through these to see what people go for

[solar vigil]

i found this? but it seems really squishy

https://pobb.in/6IU7rMsldXMX

it might be outdated

[cinder shoal]

that's just how evasion builds be
nearly 3k life, 84% evade chance

the plan is obviously "kill them first and just accept that sometimes you'll explode"

[solar vigil]

ehhh...

this leveling seciton seems fine but i think id like to work in more defenses

hrm

mihgt ask @frigid kernel for build help

or i may use this leveling section with zish's hcssf vuild

and just play it in trade and get heatshiver + taming

[frigid kernel]

frost blades also means your enemies are often chilled

and crit means they are often frozen

buy a good white wind and go frost blades it'll be a good time

[solar vigil]

yeah

[frigid kernel]

i personally dont like playing shadow because i dont like hearing what he has to say

he just randomly will say "that was fun"

and its just really unpleasant for me to hear him say that

i think templar's voice lines are really good

i also like hearing what witch has to say

and marauder has good lines

so does ranger

[solar vigil]

i may need to entreat your help before the league starts so i can figure something out

[solar vigil]

but i think now is the time i do a frost blades trickster

and not necesasrily make my own guide but it seems like im gonna have to draw a few together at least

[cinder shoal]

I've done it a few times, it's not so bad. Essentially just look over some poe.ninja builds that do things you want to do. path your tree for these priorities

• getting attributes routed out (as in getting routed toward other passives but not taking them yet)
• getting enough damage that you can blap through acts but don't overcommit, you only need "enough"
• get health as you go, try to have 2k+ at the end of acts, cap resistances as early as possible (try to get it high enough to account for kitava debuffs before they happen)
  basically I like to save all the actual damage amps and fancy stuff (notables and funky mechanics and all that) for later on when it's actually important. acts aren't hard with a decent bit of damage and minimum of survivability

[frigid kernel]

with frost blades "getting enough damage" isn't that bad

you have access to the added cold damage support gem

and there's a lot of nearby cold damage on tree

also ice bite support

https://poe.ninja/builds/settlers?timemachine=day-2&skills=Frost+Blades&class=Trickster&sort=dps&heatmap=true @solar vigil poeninja heatmap is really good

[solar vigil]

I like zish’s hcssf frost blade trickster, I just need to figure out like… a proper progression as opposed to just like, build updates in the endgame

As in, laying out stuff for campaign > atlas > bosses

And adapting it for trade

Idk if that means just getting heatshiver or other stuff too

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3-4ebsKASA

[fervent raptor]

https://youtu.be/CagIhaIoqtg

we Exiles of Duty now

[pine wedge]

Did you see the laser gun Merc gets?

https://youtu.be/jiFS1GcNZQk?si=1OSNcZ2DT2vX6erl

It's a charge shot

but that SFX

MMMMM

[fervent raptor]

yeah, reminds me of a skill in Wolcen

which felt spicy af but was terrible to actually play

[prime spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_SZdCClZLc

[solar vigil]

am i cooking chat (based off of zish's stuff) https://pobb.in/6mTSRw0B5hgC

[pine wedge]

Have you tried a hybrid cold/phys claw?

From what I remember you want to get full cold conversion on a phys claw as that's better than a elemental claw

[solar vigil]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

this is based off of zish's hcssf build that im just doing in sc trade

[solar vigil]

Spoilers for necro settlers ||somehow I got a Stygian spire in act 1??||

||are the maps changed?||

[solar vigil]

||so it seems like the allflame monsters can just randomly replace some of the monsters in a map||

[fervent raptor]

turns out you can't just run the ledge with packs of teleporting esh demons on your ass

[fervent raptor]

so close to being the worst possible roll

[desert inlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMmmLtpfg60

[solar vigil]

i just got a VLS off the ground

im fucking cooking

[frigid kernel]

vesta longsword?

vaal lightning strike?

[solar vigil]

Ye

The build uses it

As a damage nuke and to spike rage

Although I’d need a lethal pride with rage on hit to keep the rage

rn it DELETES a rare if I use it

[frigid kernel]

I just read the skill wow that's weird it just makes a ball

[solar vigil]

yeah the vaal version you just put on the ground

[fervent raptor]

oh we hit this lab

[solar vigil]

i am in offcolor hell

luckily i got a fractured +2% max lightning res jewel im trying to sell for a div

[pine wedge]

what colors on what base?

[solar vigil]

i need 2 green 2 red on an ev/es base

twice

[pine wedge]

do you have the 2 green 1 red recipe?

[solar vigil]

i do but i dont have any chromes

[pine wedge]

Ah kk

[solar vigil]

i just got into maps

[pine wedge]

I see

well, yeah ooof

Might just have to struggle on bad bases for a bit

[solar vigil]

yeah...

[cinder shoal]

this is why I spend the entirety of acts picking up chromatic items to vendor.

[fervent raptor]

If it's 4 sockets do the bench trick with jewelers orbs instead of chromes

[pine wedge]

You still need to spend chromes for the first 3 slots tho

[fervent raptor]

2r2g on an ev/es base?

Bench to 1 socket, spend 4 chromes to bench it red

Then bench 2 sockets, back to 1, back to 2 until the second socket goes red

Then bench the 3rd socket to green in the same way, then the 4th socket to green in the same way

Costs you all of 4 chromes

Everything else is jewelers, which people normally have a lot more of / get a lot more of from selling 6s items

[cinder shoal]

Yeah if you're going hard off-color you should bench-craft sockets with jewellers instead of fishing for chromatic god luck

[fervent raptor]

even if you want to bench 2r you should probably bench down to 2 sockets first so that you can ensure sockets 3 and 4 are green by the above method

instead of spending 25 chromes and hitting b-r-g-r or something

[solar vigil]

Yeah I know about the bench trick

[solar vigil]

is it super necessary to put essence in your map progression tree?

[pine wedge]

No, I progressed with no essence

However

it's easy early money that lets you make a profit in low tier maps

and it lets you build up a stockpile of essences for your own useage

[solar vigil]

yeah....

hrm...

its necro setters, i can find other stuff

to sell

i guess its fine if i have a crafting tree thats like essence/jun/harvest

then ill do like. expedition/legion/blue altars?

and work in scarabs on both of those

[pine wedge]

Can you build do both Essence and Legion well?

Because those are very different mechanics

[solar vigil]

its frost blades?

probs

[pine wedge]

My early game atlas for settlers was blue alters, Jun, Expedition

Just some jun scarabs

I focused on Tujin and Catarina rushing

[solar vigil]

yeah i mean for like, once im done with maps

[pine wedge]

That was my money making atlas for after getting my two voidstones

Because Veiled Orbs only go up in price so it sustained me for a good while until I had the build and funds to do my final strat (Harbingers)

[fervent raptor]

Essence is a mechanic to spam on your low tier maps - even a mapping build should be able to handle them no problem once you're comfortable in reds

[solar vigil]

for the progression tree, shouldnt you rush the kirac stuff?

[fervent raptor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVnWLvmCE8U

[grizzled hamlet]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[fervent raptor]

shoutout to the most bait announcement wording

[prime spruce]

i had to reread it multiple times lmao