eviscerate doesn't
#ARPGs
pine wedge
Honestly? Such a build likely doesn't exist rn
hollow geyser
What's the estimated time of arrival on 3.25?
solar vigil
The 26th
keen dagger
you can usually log in at around 4pm GMT on the day of
grizzled hamlet
patch usually drops 2-3 hours before
and queue is like 1 hour?
if youre on the poe discord they do pings for this stuff
steady saddle
I'll be on to be hype with everyone
I took the day off!
it honestly feels like christmas haha
keen dagger
This patch seems extremely cool but I'm still busy with Last Epoch lmao
steady saddle
My original plan for my atlas is Harbinger, Expedition, Harvest. I think I want to spec into harvest last because return-on-investment depends on how much the map is juiced right?
Given that white maps take 1 chisel to 20%, maybe I can run chiseled magic white maps and that won't be too inefficient. What do y'all think?
pine wedge
White Maps are still going to be pretty bad.
Better but still "get the fuck out of white maps ASAP"
ember nimbus
very hyped for this league due to melee buff as I am too dumb dumb to spellcast.
grizzled hamlet
i mean this league you have warden on ranger
and dead eye is extra cracke
and pathfinder is pathfinder
rustic grotto
I was probably gonna go deadeye again if I couldn't find a Scion build that tickled me
Or warden for something new
grizzled hamlet
warden might be cracked
hollow geyser
Did they talk about what was lacking on Raider that they felt like doing Warden instead?
rustic grotto
Sell me a warden league starter
grizzled hamlet
Did they talk about what was lacking on Raider that they felt like doing Warden ...
raider felt a bit basic in the modern poe landscape
rustic grotto
I think the last time I played raider was when I went full flicker memes
hollow geyser
raider felt a bit basic in the modern poe landscape
True, there's only so many dynamics you can do with eleventy billion frenzy charges and onslaught
steady saddle
Better but still "get the fuck out of white maps ASAP"
okay, then how about magic yellow maps? I'm more or less wondering if I'm kneecapping my efficiency by running a mechanic before I'm geared enough to steamroll it
grizzled hamlet
i think that if youre not rushing reds and completing all your void stones in under 48 hours
effeciency isnt something you should worry about too much
that said, harvest usually goes up in value as the league goes as people get into crafting more
so its not the best early early league option imo
pine wedge
Did they talk about what was lacking on Raider that they felt like doing Warden ...
Everything Raider could do was easily doable on other Ascendencies
It was mostly just an early QoL acendency that was then swapped to either Pathfinder or Deadeye
rustic grotto
https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/vaal-lightning-strike-warden-build-guide something like this maybe?
hollow geyser
Last time I played my buddy was running Frost Blades Raider so if I wanted to give that kind of play a spin sounds like the Warden Hoarfrost thing might be interesting in 3.25
pine wedge
https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/vaal-lightning-strike-warden-build-guide someth...
Yeah, I'm eyeing LS Warden
pine wedge
Last time I played my buddy was running Frost Blades Raider so if I wanted to gi...
There's a dude that has a guide out already for Frost Blade Warden and it looks very strong but squishy
But the guide is very much "specialist that knows everything about a skill so is overestimating what you might know"
hollow geyser
Yeah it was always kind of funky on single target though high Attack speed kept it blending
pine wedge
I mean, reasonable day 1 gear has it at 1 million DPS
hollow geyser
DPS or Shaper DPS? That's still pretty wild either way
hollow geyser
Haha, nice, I've got some catching up to do then - are people still using Path of Building for character planning or what's the modern goodness?
pine wedge
Yep, still use Path of Building for planning and guides
grizzled hamlet
path of building community edition
pine wedge
Oh yeah, important note
grizzled hamlet
cause the original dev got hired by ggg lol
pine wedge
Also, this is the place for item filters
Not updated yet ofc
The rule of thumb we've heard is the Strictness descriptions are for new players, vets generally want to go one step over.
solar vigil
solar vigil
https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/vaal-lightning-strike-warden-build-guide someth...
TbXie is considered kinda hit or miss. Probs find a different lightning strike guide
Also yeah lightning strike warden is craaaacked (possibly)
rustic grotto
I was gonna wait for maxroll to update, I just wanted to see what was happening for Warden
solar vigil
https://youtu.be/pbAxHsXHZNg?si=76tB9c3w8ud9nnOL Palestron is real good, his hexblast mines build was great in 3.23
solar vigil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWdT2nVYBgc
No maxroll though 
Barring a slam guide on maxroll this looks like it’s gonna be my starter tho
solar vigil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWdT2nVYBgc
Oh, this uses replica Hinekoras sight…
Guess I gotta spec into heist
pine wedge
Are you SSF?
solar vigil
no
i just looked and both the normal variant and the replica arent that much it looks like
steady saddle
i think that if youre not rushing reds and completing all your void stones in un...
rushing reds went poorly for me last league, because it was just dying every four or five maps
spending currency early to get upgrades is not my forte so my goal this league is to be a little more cavalier about it
if I experience a ton of difficulty in red maps, I don't mind going back down to yellows to just farm up stuff to afford the next upgrades
basically my goal is to just have a contingency for when I invariably hit a roadblock as far as currency goes
grizzled hamlet
yeah you need to be real good to properly rush red maps
and do practice runs and such
steady saddle
Last time I played my buddy was running Frost Blades Raider so if I wanted to gi...
Zish has a really comprehensive guide to FRostblades and is doing updates to it for Warden this league. You could get a lot of advice from that, and I tried it last league and I was pretty happy with the near-Pohx-RF level of documentation. I didn't play much of it past early reds last league, but it is pretty nice to have that much support. He even did a follow up on defensive-layer minmaxing which was helpful to me as a newbie in early reds.
pine wedge
https://youtu.be/pbAxHsXHZNg?si=76tB9c3w8ud9nnOL Palestron is real good, his hex...
I would follow this guide over this. This is mostly just Palestron showing what he's starting, not a proper guide.
https://youtu.be/-jW24ruPUtQ?si=o6VqtsejQkxVNKoP
solar vigil
ah thats fair
pine wedge
Palestron does good content tho
rustic grotto
I'll have to take a note of this for when I'm back at my pc so I can load it all into PoB
pine wedge
Thinking of playing LS Warden to start then swapping to Frost Blades
solar vigil
for atlas passives, is there a good way to do essence/harvest/jun?
grizzled hamlet
this seems to be the minimum tree taking most related nodes
https://pathofpathing.com/?v=3.25.0-pre-atlas#AAAABgAAExIAIdwkyyrRSCJkkGbGcXWCiplssmDPt9RT1lrZkN9L3_jrNu53cXUAAA==
solar vigil
can only a certian amount of content spawn in a map?
its gonna be really funny going from EA champ to ground slam
totems and delayed damage to BLOW UP ENTIRE PACKS WITH ONE CLICK
grizzled hamlet
Jun not Heist
listen, reading is hard 
pine wedge
can only a certian amount of content spawn in a map?
Yes. It's why blocking is strong.
solar vigil
ok
steady saddle
Dang in a work meeting. What's the tldr?
pine wedge
Just super cool cosmetics
No armor set this time
A weapon effect
a level up run over your head
A cloak
A finisher
and a portal
prime spruce
grizzled hamlet
summary from tripolar
theyre making a maxroll pconc of bouncing guide
and honestly im tempted
i really like the skill
solar vigil
theyre making a maxroll pconc of bouncing guide
oh shit
fair warning on frost blades, zish switched from trickster to warden, and his specific build is paper apparently
solar vigil
im sure you can do it tankier and still have good damage but yeah zeesh
i hope ziz puts that ground slam guide on maxroll
or some slam build guide gets put on there
since slams fit what i want
pine wedge
I'm hoping a decent warden build surfaces
All the ones being put out are scuffed as fuck
solar vigil
it may just be better on trickster
its tried and true
and im assuming it got a damage buff
grizzled hamlet
ngl ill probably pconc of bouncing if maxroll guide comes out soon
frigid kernel
slayer is also a good frost blades ascendancy
grizzled hamlet
and then do a melee build second
frigid kernel
vaal pact doesn't make leech from projectiles instant so you can probably still overleech with frost blades, lightning strike definitely can
im gonna start contagion trickster in ssf
solar vigil
its useable now at least
frigid kernel
i just really like it
solar vigil
im doing some type of slam
frigid kernel
the small buff on gems combined with recombs means it'll be way easier to make a rare +2 wand for it
pine wedge
it may just be better on trickster
I don't mean Frost Blades IDGAF about the skill I wanna play Warden.
frigid kernel
i can probably alt aug regal +1 all spells and then vendor recipie regal a +1 all chaos and then recomb them for +2
solar vigil
I don't mean Frost Blades IDGAF about the skill I wanna play Warden.
thats fair
frigid kernel
I don't mean Frost Blades IDGAF about the skill I wanna play Warden.
how much are you willing to cook? i think a hit based spellcaster could be interesting
pine wedge
I can't build for shit
frigid kernel
one that combines shock and scorch with elemental weakness + whatever ele curse for your main damage type
solar vigil
dont you not use a weapon with pconc of bouncming
pine wedge
Yep, main hand should be emty
frigid kernel
you must be unarmed for concoction skills
pine wedge
one that combines shock and scorch with elemental weakness + whatever ele curse ...
Ele Hit of the Spectrum is a very strong play yes.
frigid kernel
i was more thinking some kind of self cast
pine wedge
Ele Hit is self cast. It's pretty much just LA nonsense with a brighter projectile.
So bows
frigid kernel
isnt ele hit an attack
frigid kernel
i'm talking spells
because the nodes for ailments and avatar don't stipulate it has to be an attack
that just says 80% more melee damage
and if you can double scorch while also applying two curses to further reduce the enemy elemental resistance
PLUS EXPOSURE?
even if you have super weak scorches that's going to be a lot of -res
grizzled hamlet
pine wedge
yeah, saw that might use that.
Thinking of LS to start league then swap to Frost Blade once I have some funds to skip the extreme squish
solar vigil
ok, ziz's lacerate build is up on maxroll, i feel like he might be missing out by not looking into the retaliate skills? the build was made before they were fully shown
im sure he will take a look though and try it out
where are the slams maxroll 👀
pine wedge
I think I heard a hint that Ziz will have a retaliate build up on his youtube
solar vigil
yeah
im asuming you can use them as a utility thing? or are these more a build-around
pine wedge
They might be a utility option but IDK
I feel like if you're using one you probably want at least a 4 link to give it enough juice to do w/e you want it to
Which is a lot
I doubt the retaliate build will have a maxroll tho simply because maxroll probably doesn't want such an experimental build on their site.
solar vigil
If a spell is supported with battlemages cry, can you still cast the regular spell?
pine wedge
solar vigil
Has anyone heard of or seen that a slam build will be on maxroll?
pine wedge
At this point, I don't think there will be one
Think I settled on my starter. LS Warden using Tinctures. If they turn out bad (tho the paper math is there) then I'll transfer out of them.
Gold respecs plus tinctures only taking up potion slots means that swapping shouldn't be hard
solar vigil
At this point, I don't think there will be one
Yeah I don’t think so
frigid kernel
Has anyone heard of or seen that a slam build will be on maxroll?
maxroll seems to mostly upload things they are certain will be powerful. slams are very much untested now especially as a leaguestart
grizzled hamlet
if you follow a ziz slam guide you should be fine?
solar vigil
Yeah I’d think so
keen dagger
What is max roll?
grizzled hamlet
website that published a bunch of builds
theyre a pretty reliable source of good info
solar vigil
hmmmm
yeah overexertion is an unknown factor rn
Hm
Well now I have a conundrum
i wont be playing much till the 29th, so i can probs just pick a class to level and see what my options are after 3 days and respec, esp with gold
but im not sure whether to do marauder or duelist
i wanna do some kind of slam build, but if theyre shit, oh well ill do a strike build
i think im leaning towards duelist so ill have lacerate glad to fall back on
https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/lacerate-gladiator-league-starter huh, this does use earthquake but i think its for mapping only
im not... sure if thered be a way to fenegle it so that eq is usable on bosses
yaknow what
i think ima go with this
uses both slam and strike so i can see how both feel, the dot makes bossing easier, tanky af too
im curious if they will work in eviscerate tho
solar vigil
im curious, whats a good alternative to ST for leveling 1-12 if i wanna go melee the entire time?
before sudner is availiable
grizzled hamlet
i like smite personally?
grizzled hamlet
the alternatives are molten strike and cleave
and idk, those dont feel as good?
solar vigil
yeah whatevs
frigid kernel
remember that you can torrent the path of exile update! (it will not work for steam users such as myself, but you can still seed it)
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3533154
pine wedge
Found this handy site for today
I'm not even use the import, just a handy checklist
solar vigil
yeh its cool
frigid kernel
atlas tree for you maybe
crystal resonance unclicked because it can mess with corrupting purple MEDS and might make the map boss too spooky early on
pine wedge
30% drop rate
Betrayal Rushing was profitable but bursty
Also, unless you plan on doing a destructive play focused strat I would probably cut it and the maven nodes. Maven requires you to be willing to constantly rotate between 10 maps which might not be your style
solar vigil
I’m gonna do 1 tree for crafting stuff and 1 tree for maven stuff
pine wedge
The map nodes are nice profit when they proc, but idk if they're worth it over investing more into other mechanics unless you are looking to either rush 4 stones or going to SSF the maps.
solar vigil
My goal is to kill maven this league so I wanna get as many attempts at her as I can
pine wedge
I’m gonna do 1 tree for crafting stuff and 1 tree for maven stuff
In that case I would split destructive play out from this into a atlas with a lot of super quick mechanics (essences and the like).
solar vigil
In that case I would split destructive play out from this into a atlas with a lo...
Yeah
I’ll figure it out once I get done progressing maps
pine wedge
Depending on how fast you are to prog maps her Writ might have dropped in price so double check
considering that Uber Maven is no longer connected to it you're won't be paying the Progenesis Premium.
solar vigil
They were ~100 c last league
pine wedge
Yeah, fucking PoE ninja defaulting to standard every time is fucking me up
still, 100c is less than they used to be
In affliction and Ancestor they were 2 div
solar vigil
Zeesh
pine wedge
(and in both those leagues Divs were over 200c)
Like I said, no Progenesis Premium
But yeah, probably will be faster just to do some other mechanic for money unless you can expect to get ~5 Writs per hour (5 Div per hour is around where most basic strategies end up and 100c per Writ is slightly less than a div).
solar vigil
Yeah…
I gotta balance getting money with needing a veiled orb for the axe craft
Theoretically like essence/harvest/jun
Idk if that’s a good strat or not
pine wedge
Good news about Jun tho: safehouses just shit out exp.
solar vigil
Oh really?
pine wedge
Theoretically like essence/harvest/jun
seems solid
Also, early on the veiled items you pick up can be really solid
solar vigil
Yeah
pine wedge
because life, res, and a good unveil is not that rare
pine wedge
Oh really?
They have like a zone wide 100% exp increase
and then a big chunk for killing the bosses
solar vigil
Oh
pine wedge
And the monster density is nothing to sniff at
solar vigil
If I’m doing harvest for crafting mainly, do I take the nodes that cause less yellow and purple to spawn?
pine wedge
You only take those if you're targeting a specific juice
solar vigil
Well I need blue juice to get the essences I want
pine wedge
which, if you just want to craft random stuff, you aren't
You want all the juice to start
because Harvest can flip ele resists
solar vigil
True
pine wedge
And you can sell the spare others (and gold typically is the most expensive)
grizzled hamlet
i dont know what you mean
clearly league winning build
pine wedge
doesnt queue start an hour before release?
2-3 hours before (from Ziz)
grizzled hamlet
patching is up 
pine wedge
So yeah, now is the time to have the game open and be trying to login
solar vigil
Ok
grizzled hamlet
queue is up
grizzled hamlet
i mean, path queues go fast
unless something goes terribly wrong youll be in fast
grizzled hamlet
time to stare at the queue for 2 hours
steady saddle
solar vigil
If you have to manually import your filter into the files, does it still auto update?
frigid kernel
:)
frigid kernel
i had a phone alarm set for 2 hours and 2 minutes before leguestart
and then i started pressing enter on the client
frigid kernel
If you have to manually import your filter into the files, does it still auto up...
if you login to the filterblade website with your poe account then it'll just auto sync
grizzled hamlet
i had a phone alarm set for 2 hours and 2 minutes before leguestart
same, but my ip changed and i had to fumble getting my password again 😭
pine wedge
Checklist:
Guide open
Regex copied
Name chosen
Campaign guide opened (optional)
anything else?
solar vigil
regex?
pine wedge
grizzled hamlet
oh neat
pine wedge
You can use this to highlight sockets, movement speed, and good damage mods on weapons
solar vigil
i see
pine wedge
it's also how people mass roll maps
grizzled hamlet
im gonna go wild, and go holy relic of conviction
balormage's video on it sold me
frigid kernel
poison variant?
grizzled hamlet
ye
pine wedge
Poe db has all the weapon enchants but the bases are wrong
steady saddle
Checklist:
Guide open
Regex copied
Name chosen
Campaign guide opened (optional)
what's your campaign guide
pine wedge
It's a lot but mostly just there so I don't fuck routing
2 minutes
it's happening!
grizzled hamlet
steady saddle
it's moving!
grizzled hamlet
hoooold
steady saddle
I lied
pine wedge
GGG FIX YOUR SERVERS
grizzled hamlet
ITS MOVING
pine wedge
THERE WE GO
pine wedge
Fucking queue slow
steady saddle
Jenny, what's the emote with the little blonde girl who is bobbing rapidly
grizzled hamlet
pine wedge
people are already in Kingsmarch
grizzled hamlet
bounce
grizzled hamlet
rekt
pine wedge
So you can get there immediately
steady saddle
grizzled hamlet
makes sense
steady saddle
I stole this one
grizzled hamlet
league mechanics in league are usually act 1 area 1 at most area 2
grizzled hamlet
i crashed lol
ember nimbus
desert inlet
love it
frigid kernel
is anyone else getting huge latency spikes
pine wedge
First boat of boat league sent!
solar vigil
this levelling guide just skips the fetid pool? https://heartofphos.github.io/exile-leveling/#/
ashen lotus
So uhh
I want to start the game, but now I'm scared
pine wedge
Welcome! Everyone is a bit distracted right now so help will be slow.
But I would suggest finding a build guide from either Zizaran (YouTuber) or Maxroll (website) that looks cool.
Then if you are using a Zizaran guide download Path of Building Community fork.
Finally, go to https://www.filterblade.xyz/ and download the semi strict filter for what you are playing (personally suggest softcore trade aka non-Solo Self Found). You can not play with a build (heavily not recommended) but you need a loot filter.
As for a basic tutorial on all the weird shit I suggest finding one of Zizaran's "everything explained" runs and playing along with it. They all will be outdated to various degrees rn, but they should be solid enough.
Sorry for the info dump.
PoE is kind of a beast lol
solar vigil
I JUST GOT A QUILL RAIN IN ACT 1
GAME
WHY
why does this game taunt me like this
its just really fucking funny that i got one
but i played ea LAST league
grizzled hamlet
time to play toxic rain
solar vigil
lmao
grizzled hamlet
:)
pine wedge
Btw, dropped a 5 link bow in act 5 if anyone wants it
pine wedge
Got this for 1c on a character that has zero investment on tree for tinctures
doing cruel lab
And am deleting Izaro when I turn it on
frigid kernel
Holy shit that's so much power
prime spruce
yeah the tincture mods seem quite powerful! glad that they aren't weak
pine wedge
Btw, that's like an ilevel 30 tinctures with tier 4 and tier 5 mods plus little 1 point about bottom implicit.
This thing is shit
anyways, campgain done
pine wedge
Took me 12 hours in part because we're slow and in part because we ate something we shouldn't
steady saddle
Nice! My party and I got through merc and stopped before kitava
Thinking of doing multiple lab runs to quality up some gems and then hit up maps
My chieftain is res capped at 84 with no investment in the tree 😤 so I'm not eager to go down by 30 lol
steady saddle
Got this for 1c on a character that has zero investment on tree for tinctures
This sounds insane. I would absolutely use this because I attack every 2 seconds and the screen is getting exploded by the massive aoe
pine wedge
Mechanic info from a youtube comment so completely accurate
Going to be testing this today
prime spruce
yeah I'll test it as well tonight
grizzled hamlet
hhhhhh
steady saddle
this farmville stuff is pog
wait can you send more than the number required?
I've only ever seen requisitions for 200-300
pine wedge
Oh absolutely
I send tons of stuff and throw in the dust to really ramp up the reward
steady saddle
Oh very nice!
How do you sustain the gold btw? it feels like costs ramp up really fast, and generating it seems to only come from you running maps
pine wedge
Running maps
the amount you gain scales so just run more maps with more things on higher difficulties
grizzled hamlet
How do you sustain the gold btw? it feels like costs ramp up really fast, and ge...
i feel like im getting 5-6k every 2-3 white maps
havent been having issues with gold so far
rustic grotto
And into Act 9
I may be squishy but hitting Unbound Avatar and Vaal Haste then bidenblasting a couple of clustered rares is great
solar vigil
pog
grizzled hamlet
pog got a divine from shipping
pine wedge
Hell yeah Tujin hooking everyone up with Divines rn
pine wedge
btw y'all, Dawnbreakers with perfect physical conversion rolls are 20c right now
solar vigil
~~dawnbreaker from dota 2? ~~
pine wedge
voidstone 1 get!
frigid kernel
starting contagion chaos dots was a mistake
pine wedge
And that's number 2 done!
pine wedge
Trying out this atlas to see how it feels
I can tell you right now tho that my computer and the servers don't like it lol
solar vigil
Ritual is really rippy rn btw
grizzled hamlet
tldw
you can swap burial chamber card drops to a t1
this makes it so only brothers gift drops in that t1
on its own
not that op
the card is rare
but
so you can basically print divs until this is fixed
oh it is fixed already my bad
steady saddle
awesome lol
I'm gonna put a tip in the spoiler for people who wanna figure it out from themselves but
Gold tip: ||upgrading your mining to 11 will let you get gold from deposits in maps, not sure how much it is, but it should be at least 1000 gold||
Ore tip for quality of life: ||don't click on bismuth until you finish the map, because FUCK the tornadoes||
Shipping tip: ||use thaumaturgic dust from disenchantment to increase the value of your shipped goods, getting more rewards for higher boat risk||
also, I spent a lot of time in Merc Lab running it yesterday and I got 3 Ice Nova of Frostbolts, which sold for about 80c each
it's not a good use of your time tbh, but if you can zoom then I recommend it
my plan is to probably get the Labyrinth Wheel on the atlas, and then just run whitemaps + lab + essence, and then farm a bunch of high cost offerings, and then sell the good offerings off and run the bad offerings to get the flavor of the month transfigured gems
I'm just using the streamer hype to get a little cash
my slam chief is decent, but it doesn't feel great when I have a 1 second swing time, and I can get absolutely shredded by crazy stuff like chaos dot, or lightning spire, or some nasty mechanic that takes advantage of 0% spell suppression. Having 90% PDR and 90% EDR with 4.2k life isn't feeling great on some rolled maps >_>
ember nimbus
I really hope they carry over the town settlement mechanics to POE2 because it’s very fun and addictive best league in a long time
pine wedge
An hour response time at 7:30 pm thier time is pretty good
If you listen to developer interviews, GGG places economic exploits at the very top of their bug fix priorities.
Chris was once asked what the most important thing to get right when launching a new game. His answer was "Make sure there aren't any gold dupes"
prime spruce
oh hey, got a divine during the campaign https://i.imgur.com/ZPnCycR.jpeg
it's weird, I feel like every time I've gotten a divine/exalt during the campaign, it's always been during act 8
pine wedge
We have decided to join the fight against lag on the side of lag
pine wedge
steady saddle
TLDR:
- fulfill the favor requests for each port to "level" them up
- dust increases reward rarity (mostly) and has drastic falloff
- each port and metal bar pair has a different reward type, so find the list and target that?
pine wedge
Child: Bullied
pine wedge
https://vxtwitter.com/ZiggyDStarcraft/status/1817923869308768619?t=AvlAmjYan9jF_...
the table for metal type and port can be found in this tweet
solar vigil
for harvest passives, is more lifeforce quant/higher change for tier 3 plants better than change to contain sacred grove?
grizzled hamlet
if you want to farm harvest
you want to either go for 100% chance to contain grove
or pay the tax on the map device
cause chance to contain grove is the difference between having the mechanic in the map vs not having it
and it not spawning means you dont get to interact with harvest at all
solar vigil
ok
pine wedge
Current state of our character
steady saddle
hell yeah that looks awesome
I definitely feel that about the DPS with buttons haha
my warcry count is up to 6, with 5 being piano
when the exerts line up 🥵
tbh, the most important warcry is enduring because getting 5 charges instantly and regenerating 20% of your life per second is mostly wants keeping me alive
the build works in theory, but requires a HEFTY amount of micro to manage all these buffs
I really wanna fix my flasks so I need to piano them less too, since Lion's Roar and Ruby Flask are both needed to get to 90% PDR and EDR respectively
frigid kernel
poe2 beta email survey
frigid kernel
the build works in theory, but requires a HEFTY amount of micro to manage all th...
are you using the flask enchant orbs?
steady saddle
are you using the flask enchant orbs?
I haven't crafted yet on my flasks
tbh not sure how to roll them well
doing a resolute technique slam build with 1.1 attacks per second so not sure what are the best mods for my build
frigid kernel
tbh not sure how to roll them well
- Figure out what affixes you want
- use poe.re to make a regex
- put them in a stash tab
- alt+Aug until they light up
Item level matters
prime spruce
nice! I just got my last ascendency points, bleed SST has been really smooth so far
i've got a couple of ex off the boats, but no divines yet. But i can't complain, i've gotten 3 divines so far as drops
steady saddle
Captain Lance did a video about the skill I'm using
The echoes of creation price is spiking 🥲
pine wedge
Got a suggestion for the auction house: the ability to see buy and sell orders at the same time
Because I'm finding that sell orders massively overcharge you
Like a scarab that's 8 for a divine on trade site is being sold at 6 for a divine
grizzled hamlet
Got a suggestion for the auction house: the ability to see buy and sell orders a...
what i do is
once youve set an order
you can ctrl click one of the option
and it will swap the currencies
so i can see both orders
and set a better price
pine wedge
Thanks for the tip, been really helpful!
We managed to clear our first T17 and downed Sirus for the map slot.
He was kind of enough to drop a medium thread of hope
pine wedge
Right now we're scrambling because the next reasonable upgrade (that isn't a fuck you expensive craft) might legitimately be yoke of suffering and replica headhunter be we want to keep our corrupted blood immunity jewel while lacking a good socket.
Which is very "suffering from success" yes but also we don't know how the fuck to get a cluster to work lol.
hollow geyser
Corrupted blood is such a killer
pine wedge
It really is. And like our choices are fitting this jewel in or getting a corrupted intuitive leap or stormshroud (lol lmao)
hollow geyser
Do spells proc corrupted blood these days or is it an attack tax
pine wedge
So, we did something that is probably dumb but 
it made damage number go up.
We got a cluster that we could respec into so we could get two easy jewel slots to move the jewel from out belt over. Then, we realized this cluster had Feed the Fury but we have no over leech. Now, the smart thing would have shrugged because this cluster was a solid 20 divs less than the ideal option and just take the loss. We are not smart. We decided to put on Petrified Blood and then bought a Megalomaniac with more leech nonsense. Good news: we're up 1 million damage. Bad news: we still need another jewel slot
steady saddle
I was getting a lesson from someone how to Rog
open prefix too
and then I got a good chest upgrade
open suffix
it's not a t1 life roll, I just got the t2 life and then t2 life + armor
these numbers feels insane
pine wedge
Ah yes welcome to rog
if you ever wonder how the fuck people find these items with like all really good T1 and T2 mods
now you know
grizzled hamlet
rustic grotto
Now this looks like a good meme
I love dumb Scion builds
Like that energy blade build I did back in TotA
steady saddle
hey exiles, how do I make it so my default chat after logging in is always guild chat?
solar vigil
Can you do a bleed build out of ground slam and have it be effective?
Cos I’m doing ziz’s lacerate glad using sunder for leveling and it is SO fun
But I wish it was a bit wider, and ground slam seems good for that
And I don’t think I like EQ as much, and I’m not sure if lacerate will feel as good
grizzled hamlet
@steady saddle
pine wedge
Reminder: Stacked Decks are for opening not sellinghttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011186842709803039/1269412604455944283/image.png?ex=66aff81d&is=66aea69d&hm=742db92023f3cb6662914046972eb5ab223cd0b4e97b2214aedb3ff2f45c88f0&
fierce gust
https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/velynas-explosive-concoction-ascendant
I played that build in Sanctum. Was a lot of fun, but Explosive Concoction has undergone some changes since then, so can't vouch for its playability now.
pine wedge
Just got bait and switched on a fucking fracturing orb
Reason why we don't use the auction house is because Fracturing Orbs are flat out too expensive and price weirdly. They run around 5.4 divines rn which doesn't really fit in the auction house unless you have multiple (lol)
keen dagger
what the fuck
pine wedge
10 div base + another 5ish div in crafting mats = 35 divine gloves
Fun fact: since the Alva glove mods (which is where the Increased Damage is coming from) have an elemental resist Harvest crafts work on them.
hollow geyser
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011186842709803039/1269499870067163166/i...
Vaal spark gloves, I see
grizzled hamlet
pine wedge
Btw, I've been having massive performance issues where my I was being GPU bound. I changed from DirectX11 to DirectX12 and that instantly solved the issue.
frigid kernel
10 div base + another 5ish div in crafting mats = 35 divine gloves
why is a level 84 wyvernscale gauntlets 10d base?
oh its an incursion mod
did you buy it as a one mod rare?
pine wedge
Nah, the explicits were done.
I just harvest swapped the Incursion mod (from Lightning IIRC) then did the implicits.
pine wedge
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
prime spruce
Oh damn, thats a lotta money!
pine wedge
Yeah, that was certainly a wakeup lol
tho, not quite the highest roll we could have gotten
pine wedge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011186842709803039/1269714288822452235/i...
after all, this exists
pine wedge
Beeg 🙂
pine wedge
Jungle Valley Harbingers with Niko.
Not cheap tho
Think each map is like 50c?
Honestly probably more.
Also, a lot of the profit is in bulk selling our scarab tab.
pine wedge
Also also, people are snitching so the scarabs are going to get even more expensive.
steady saddle
Scarabs are dumb money
I'm thinking my 3rd atlas is just gonna be a scarab runner to maximize those
pine wedge
Yeah, one of the strengths of Harbingers is they just shit out rares
So if you grab the "Rares drop more scarabs" node you're making money
We're testing the beyond variant today now that our computer isn't dying constantly.
steady saddle
I thought rogue exile and torment and bossing were how you make scarab
You block the low value scarabs, get the one that says 200% inc from uniques
Is there one that does the same for rares?
pine wedge
Yep! Top left side I believe let me double check.
And Harbingers are like a hybrid thing because the drops aren't exactly worthless. We pull around 30c in raw chaos from each map.
Not to mention bulk selling annuls, exalts, ancients, and the odd fracturing orb.
steady saddle
hmm, per monster modifier
so this is definitely a 8 mod t16 strat?
still kinda hoping for an alch and go strat because I don't have the seed money for the scarabs
but I have plenty of maps that are 4-6 mods
pine wedge
While not 8 mod, it absolutely is a T16 based strat and not alch and go
Like, this is around 5 divines worth of scarabs for just 20 maps
For seed money, we would suggest Betrayel boss rushing and Expidition with Tujin
steady saddle
people say expedition, but I've run it a fair bit and haven't made much money with tujen
pine wedge
are you tal;king to tujin?
pine wedge
haggling
steady saddle
it's just regular change with him
pine wedge
and yes he can offer divines
steady saddle
like maybe 20c, and a helluva lot of fusings lol
and I'd haggle with him for like 20+ rerolls
I have two level 83 logbooks, with Tujen that I haven't run yet, but I was mostly fishing for Rog/Dannig so I could do more crafting (it feels way more fun that Tujen)
plus I've made some CRAZY stuff with Rog
(admittedly no one has bought it yet, but hoo boy)
this is what I was thinking for just alch and go, uniques-farming scarabs
pine wedge
looks fine ig
I prefer stratagies around a single league mechanic
so not the one to really look at this
steady saddle
ah yeah it's just something i slapped together
juicing strategies are out of my budget
still trying to figure out a consistent mechanic I wanna keep doing, and right now I'm just doing expedition/alva with a lot of map nodes so I just oversustain on maps to run at low investment
pine wedge
I do have to say that if you're farming Scarabs Betrayal is genuinely good. Lots of uniques per map and their safehouses tend to drop a bunch
steady saddle
Safe Houses are dope for XP
you make a great point too, since they're also Uniques
and Gravicious Gambling sounds great
it feels like it got streamlined by trivializing all the member differences
just get grav in intervention (or fortification?) and it should be fine
no need to sweat and get aisling in research, hillock in fortification, etc
pine wedge
Correct, and IIRC it's Gravicious on transport
tho honestly the consistent money is in Mastermind rushing imo
veiled orbs are not cheap
steady saddle
who drops veiled orbs?
rushing catarina is a chore, but it is doable
it feels like it takes a million years lol
prime spruce
30% drop rate doesn't seem too bad, hmm maybe I'll stick with betrayal when I'm able to start playing again
rustic grotto
I've relapsed and rolled a necro
Trying an animate weapon build instead of srs tho
grizzled hamlet
Trying an animate weapon build instead of srs tho
ive had a ton of luck with holy relic of conviction
rustic grotto
I'm still only in act 3, but I funnelled an animate ranged arms gem I traded on my warden (also finally got a tabula)
steady saddle
I was going to start a minion build but I feel pretty scared of having to do spectre management
it's already insanely hard for me to manage defenses
grizzled hamlet
i still love the currency trading house so much
do you get more profit trading the old way? in a lot of cases yes
but the convenience and speed
oh i want to finish all my maps and i need horizons to get my uncomplete maps?
took me 10 seconds to get 50 for 10c and i didnt need to open a browser window for it and message two dozen people
pine wedge
.....I should probably just list my Harbingers for chaos huh
pine wedge
Figure we'd post a video of our current LS Warden
It's scuffed because at the level of investment we're at it should be far stronger but we're bad lol
prime spruce
If you're able to itemize it they go for like 2+ div
But idk how you get it as an item
steady saddle
this isn't the one where you put something in
I feel like this one isn't that high
prime spruce
Ah, i wasn't aware there was a difference
grizzled hamlet
damn boss carries are cheap this league
maven carry was 35c
uber elder was 70c
previous league it was 100-110 for one
frigid kernel
the ones you find in maps that arent items you just click reflect and it makes a random item
pine wedge
This is a bit of a "D4 Bad" thing but idk I tried the new season because I wanted to see how it was doing. I sat down, started doing what I best could figure I should do for levelling, and was overwehlmed with that stupid open world.
Why do I have to have a fucking site open with the location of every statue and side quest in the game in order to have all my power?
It's just
why bother?
If you're going to give me a gigantic list of overworld busy work to do to gain power instead of, idk, running the dungeons and killing monsters why play the game?
Why not just go back to maps?
solar vigil
Ugh
Finally into maps
Why does lacerate have no feedback
It feels like I’m gently waving my axe over them
Like at least give me a hit sound
The magic number for thaumetic sulfite is 55 for 2x right?
pine wedge
pine wedge
The magic number for thaumetic sulfite is 55 for 2x right?
correct. 3x is 8k
solar vigil
Ok
pine wedge
We have completed it!
still need to get gems and stuff sorted
And a Scion leveled
but the build is mostly ready
we also have to craft the boots and gloves fuck
But all told I think this tab was around 15-17 divines?
pine wedge
hell yeah
prime spruce
nearly a decent ventors https://i.imgur.com/GVO8sIt.png
hollow geyser
Big money, big prizes
pine wedge
Your map runners ever bring you something a bit...odd?
friends
friends
what is that and how did you get it
frigid kernel
penance brand
pine wedge
The rings are Heartbound Loops
And the belt converts 50% of your body armor's evasion and armor to Ward
rustic grotto
I'm always curious to hear about Scion builds
pine wedge
I assure you, think one isn't very original
rustic grotto
Doesn't matter to me :3
I'm kinda tempted at some point to resurrect that energy blade scion build I had back in TotA
pine wedge
funnily enough, the last time we played this build was also TotA
our hand started hurting so we figured we'd bring it back
So, the answer is ||Wardloop Scion||
rustic grotto
pine wedge
rustic grotto
pine wedge
Just don't ask about the defences
They currently consist of "hits less than 750 damage don't exist" and "kill things before they can kill us"
rustic grotto
wardloop scares me
pine wedge
I love looking at high budget versions of builds for attainable upgrade routes like this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011186842709803039/1272307893491990548/image.png?ex=66ba8090&is=66b92f10&hm=627aba5083bfa6591242659f2dc4a7249e2e46838412f327e68cd504edc93c40&
(this helmet is 100c uncorrupted)
(luckily what it's doing is doable with a sidegrade to our current amulet)
solar vigil
yeah, ritual is still really overtuned
pine wedge
solar vigil
so, with eternal lab and the divine font, you get 2 uses of it, but does it give you different options the second time?
grizzled hamlet
it can yeah
frigid kernel
thats a cool helm
solar vigil
does anyone know if you can use the "turn a gem into one of its transfigured variants" option on a transfigured gem?
like if i get lacerate of butchering, can i turn the same gem into lacerate of haemorrhage on another attempt?
grizzled hamlet
probably?
solar vigil
apparently not
pine wedge
Recombinator Buffs and T17 nerfs
pine wedge
The game has spoken
steady saddle
does anyone know if you can use the "turn a gem into one of its transfigured var...
it says non-transfigured to transfigured
sadly you cannot
rustic grotto
oh hey, my first div from map running
pine wedge
Progensis get!
Good roll too. 27% increased duration
prime spruce
Oh wow, i was running an elder guardian map, and got an awakened gem drop
keen dagger
yeah they added those to influenced maps after maven showed up and became the main thing you're doing in the end-game progression rather than beating up conquerors and killing sirus
pine wedge
The Awakened Gems show up when Maven is witnessing a boss kill not if the map has influence or not
They're one of the main sources of income for boss rushing.
frigid kernel
Oh wow, i was running an elder guardian map, and got an awakened gem drop
it doesn't even need to be a guardian map, it can be any maven witnessed map. i've gotten one from underground sea
rustic grotto
Not gonna gamba this time, I'm gonna take the divs
solar vigil
got lacerate of butchering :(
grizzled hamlet
frigid kernel
i went ci
turns out taking my tree life nodes and putting them into damage is pretty good :)
solar vigil
so, does quality just take the armor value and multiply it by 1.20 now?
i need to get my midgame stuff soon but its a bit
prickly
im using kaoms signs for the rings and i need a lot of suppress on the gear
may need a bit of help to not fuck it up or overpay
i have a little over 100c rn and i doubt thats enough for everything
oh
yeah
i was gonna get out of lab hell first
that should get me some more currency
frigid kernel
4/4
pine wedge
hell yeah
solar vigil
Can you turn a corrupted gem into a transfigured version of itself with the divine font
solar vigil
F
pine wedge
grizzled hamlet
sirgog keeps delivering
frigid kernel
Can you turn a corrupted gem into a transfigured version of itself with the divi...
That's a special fragment you can use
There's a specific version of the font that can do exactly that
solar vigil
I see
frigid kernel
it was fun watching them figure this out in phohibited library, although im not a big divcard andy
rustic grotto
Now I just need 15 divs to really crack this Scion build up
rustic grotto
https://youtu.be/b64jwrgpRx4?si=XmB-qAIQNWLewoJH (epilepsy warning)
I just need hateforge to get the combo going
solar vigil
huh
i got a max rolled kitavas thirst
its going for like
a divine on trade?
that cant be right
pine wedge
that cant be right
It's required for the high end version of a very meta build
enjoy the divine
pine wedge
I suspect the league mechanic is dumping more chaos into the economy than normal
And with the two nerfs to T17s they are eating much less chaos on rerolls
solar vigil
i see
keen dagger
God I remember when you wouldn't pay 60c for an exalted orb
pine wedge
hey in TotA it was 230c per Divine
keen dagger
did the league mechanic charge you divs for stuff?
pine wedge
nope
Sanctum was introduced
and was pumping currency into the economy
They reduced the drop rate on the books since then
keen dagger
oh it's mainline now?
pine wedge
yep yep
keen dagger
nice. sanctum was fun (as long as you weren't melee lmao)
pine wedge
Sanctum runners are like a whole specialized thing
similar to Heist players or Lab runners
The two builds are Penance Brand of Dissipation and Hexblast Mines
pine wedge
Relatively easy way to take Fire and Cold entirely as Lightning and Chaos
You need Font of Thunder, Divine Flesh, and a single Watcher's Eye mod
You really want a min roll on the Watcher's Eye
rustic grotto
I just need hateforge to get the combo going
Wait shit that's a power rune enchant for the dagger so probably another 75 divs or so I'd need to farm
solar vigil
ugh. a little discouraged since like all of my midgame pieces according to this guide are like a div each
should i just try to craft it instead?
idk how useful that would be
cos the maxroll build says this
but i doubt i can get something that good without blowing through a lot of chaos, way more than a div
pine wedge
Found one for 20c
Like, if you're buying it 6 linked yeah it's going to be at least a div
that's just the 6 link cost
other pieces will be cheaper
unfortunately 6 links with good stats are going to run you some money
does it have as much defensive stats as you want?
no
but it has resists, suppression, and some life
solar vigil
well, its gotta be a 6L
and yeah its way too little armor
i dont really know how to 6L something cheaply
pine wedge
ya don't really?
going to cost you a div to 6 link it
Unfortunately, this is what midgame upgrades are like
things start costing divines
prime spruce
yeah, luckily the omen of connections means you can easily 6l anything as long as you've got the currency for it
pine wedge
Depends on the person and build
for me it means "I have my bare basics sorted out (life, ele resists, decent weapon) and I'm wrapping up yellow maps"
Once I hit that point meaningful upgrades are going to start costing more
That's also when I have some sort of farming strat coming online, barebones as it may be. This league that was Tujin and Safehouse Rushing
They both don't require any juicing to be worth while
solar vigil
oh thats fair
ive been just focusing on progressing
i guess i fucked myself over on my first tree then
i didnt know you wanted to go into making currency that early
i should probably rework this tree then
this is what ive got rn? i was mslty going for just spawn more monsters to drop more maps
i thought that was what you did
prime spruce
When you complete 50 bonus objectives for maps, you'll get a 2nd tree, so if you don't have that already, could be good to push to that point so you don't need to spend money respeccing
solar vigil
well
i still need all the mapping stuff at least
to get through it
i guess i dont really know how to make a starter tree
solar vigil
That's also when I have some sort of farming strat coming online, barebones as i...
what do you spec for that?
ugh
my brain is fried
pine wedge
mostly just a bunch of expedition and betrayal nodes
something like this maybe?
idk deleted the tree unfortunately
solar vigil
i can ask theyflower, but thanks
solar vigil
https://www.pathofpathing.com/?v=3.25.0-pre-atlas#AAAABgAANjUAB-IO0x_EJMsqhC6LMGYyJDpFO59JvEnTUBdafVvZXbdf62AhYGds1HF1dSd3tXoBe6d9E4B4hSeFxIsYjSmXRZjYo4mkD67ntW-1fbmZuhe_QNCi103hi-Kn43Dlj-co7671TPdP-jD6aHF1AAA= so uh, using this as a base, what is a good way to go up to 124 with a quick strategy i can use to make some currency while im getting the rest of the atlas? my immeidate thought was expedition but idk if theres a better thing for lacerate glad
pine wedge
that seems like a sound enough idea I guess
honestly this atlas is a bit too monofocused to easily convert without a bunch of unmakings
have you gotten your second atlas page yet?
might just want to use that for a clean slate
and if you haven't, might be faster to just get that first
solar vigil
i already converted
i have this base set up already
i just hashed out expedition on the planner and it works pretty well
pine wedge
kk
solar vigil
pine wedge
honestly, I would say just dump most of the kirac stuff
you've probably built up enough maps that just the basic sustain nodes will get you there
solar vigil
What should I be looking out for in terms of getting currency from delve?
prime spruce
I'm not too knowledgeable about delve, but my understanding is that it starts to be good money at depth 300+. But i wouldn't be surprised if my little knowledge is out of date, as a heads up
Certain fossils and the prime chaotic resonators sell for decent amounts, and Aul has a number of good drops
solar vigil
Ok
solar vigil
2 voidstones!
solar vigil
IM BACK IN THE FUCKING BUILDING AGAIN
GET ME OUT GET ME OUT GET ME OUT GET ME OUT GET ME OUT GET ME OUT
it took me so long to beat the king in the woods fight for the third charm slot that league
solar vigil
I was so sick of it by the end of that league
solar vigil
it's not worth it
i actually handled the enpowered monsters quite well
pine wedge
It basically does nothing now tho
solar vigil
Since I was actually able to fit in the two kaoms signs
pine wedge
just makes rares beefier and can one shot you
solar vigil
I’m not supress capped tho still
idk how the fuck im gonna fit in ryslathas coil lmao
i would have to get a really good amulet
fervent raptor
yo exiles, I'm taking part in a HC gsf lab lottery over the weekend - the idea is you must use one of the 3 offered trans gems from your first lab as 80% of your damage
fervent raptor
well idk what starting class and gem colour to go for
blue feels really risky with the amount of really bad minions in the pool haha
grizzled hamlet
ye red feels safe?
pine wedge
If you go green I would got Ranger personally. Mostly because of the bow skills you could end up with
but very squish...
hmm
fervent raptor
yeah I'm just not keen on Ranger defences given how bad I am at HC lol
Bow Slayer?? Overleech, Bane, Headsman and Masterful Form?
fervent raptor
Unrelated - rolled a 12p spell damage cluster for KB/PS
Currently got 35% inc effect, 4% damage and a usable notable suffix, but do I slam it and potentially get a bad notable?
Open suffix
I guess I do slam tbh; there's only one actively bad hit
lol hit chaos res on my CI
grizzled hamlet
pine wedge
Did we know Ritual would be in PoE 2?
grizzled hamlet
no idea
solar vigil
NOVEMBER 15TH
grizzled hamlet
lets goooooooooooooooooooooooooo
prime spruce
pine wedge
November 15th!
keen dagger
OHHHH
solar vigil
So looks like end of this league (ish) like I thought
I wonder what they’re gonna do for 3.26
Since there’s gonna be less people playing
Mayb more worldbuilding for Poe 2?
ember nimbus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYaSU9UCe0w
My life is so over November 15th lol 😂
pine wedge
solid armor base yeah
Suffixes need work but hardly unusable
And it's armor
It's very easy to isolate and craft Suffixes
fervent raptor
yeah it'd be an eldritch chaos probably ig? or annul to be absolutely sure
pine wedge
Eldritch Chaos is the cheapest but most random option
You could lock prefixes like essence or something
but that's horrifically expensive
Or harvest craft
fervent raptor
essences don't respect metamods
frigid kernel
You could lock prefixes like essence or something
can't slam essence with prefixes/suffixes locked
pine wedge
was corrected immediately
frigid kernel
oh i didnt read past there
solar vigil
slightly frustruated with lacerate rn
it seems like i cant really get much damage out of it
not sure what i can do to get more
beyond like, crafting an endgame axe
bcos i cannot fit ryslathas coil in rn
im curious, is having 100% bleed chance important?
prime spruce
if you're going a bleed build, yeah, having 100% bleed chance is recommended
it should be pretty easy to get between the tree (and ascendency if you're gladiator)
solar vigil
if you're going a bleed build, yeah, having 100% bleed chance is recommended
i am, was just curious
last time i do a "moderate" (on maxroll) budget build tho
prime spruce
yeah i've heard that lacerate has had some problems with DPS
prime spruce
are you having trouble with ST, mapping, or both?
if your mapping is still fine you can do strats like t6 essence (might still be worth doing?) to get some currency
solar vigil
its jsut that im just over 1 mil dps rn, and i feel like ive built into a corner
so i cant really do even like
elder rn
and i cannot fit in ryslathas coil without some really good gear
And crafting a good axe might take a million years
maybe im just being pessimistic
like, my goal this league is killing maven, is lacerate just not a good build for that without huge amounts of investment or?
heres the pob if you wanna take a look, ive got a div and 166c in the bank https://pobb.in/mCTv4KnM2U17
ive just been following the maxroll build really
i know my boots and gloves are kinda shitty, i just wanted to get res capped
pine wedge
You probably can cut some tank from this safely
pine wedge
I cut 100 life and found 200k more damage
Also lost 3k phys max hit
but you have tons of block
solar vigil
How so
pine wedge
You had 4 nodes going towards marauder start
I cut them and slapped them on this axe node
pine wedge
Well, you had an extra point so I just grabbed the ax mastery for 2 rage on hit. That said, you totally can go the other side for higher attack speed tho less total damage
solar vigil
I see