ARPGs

[solar vigil]

i kinda forgot you can block content

i agree with you that the trialmaster is a meanie and i dont really do his stuff

[frigid kernel]

i dont wanna slam my penis in a car door for like 4 minutes straight to get like 6 bad corrputed items and a catalyst

[solar vigil]

yeah

if you die in the trial do you actually die or just loose the trial

[frigid kernel]

both

[solar vigil]

yeah i just dont wanna fuck with it

i never went to high rounds with that

[frigid kernel]

after im comfy 4voidstones and blasting t16s ill probably spec into it for 40/40 challenges or whatever

[solar vigil]

yeah

my goal this league is beat duo so

[frigid kernel]

did you beat maven?

[solar vigil]

no

isnt she harder than duo?

[frigid kernel]

i think for a newer ssf player she is easier to kill than uber elder

simply because of how much more easily her invite fragments can be farmed

[solar vigil]

fair

ill shoot for both tbh

[frigid kernel]

if you do two invites of the formed/twisted that usually gives you a single maven invite

[solar vigil]

i tried doing one of those and it beat my ass

[frigid kernel]

you were probably super squish

[solar vigil]

yeah

[frigid kernel]

how much phys mitigation did you have?

[solar vigil]

hexblast mines

[frigid kernel]

can you link a pob export of your character

[solar vigil]

then? no clue, now:

oop

[frigid kernel]

get a pobb.in link

[solar vigil]

https://pobb.in/shbO27YPpJ31

i know i have pretty good dps but my defenses probably aint right

again: first real build

[frigid kernel]

i think your defenses are rather solid

cloak of flame gives you a good amount of phys taken as ele

dawnbreaker shield can give another 20% of phys taken as ele

and you can get i think 12% taken as with a veiled mod on helm

or 8% if you bench craft the mod

i think the solution you were missing to clear those invitations more easily was just damage

[pine wedge]

1 mil ain't much, yeah

[solar vigil]

thats without mines active

[frigid kernel]

your gem was only level 20, you could have corrupted for 21

[pine wedge]

(at work so can't fuck with settings)

[solar vigil]

yeaaaah i didnt wanna fuck with that

[pine wedge]

Get two wands with three slots

Put them in your alt weapon slots

[frigid kernel]

^ alt weapon slots are for leveling gems

[pine wedge]

Then load em up with gems

[solar vigil]

yeah i understand that

[frigid kernel]

and when they get to 20 you just vaal them

[solar vigil]

yeh

[pine wedge]

Unfortunately you can't do the vendor gem quality recipe anymore

[frigid kernel]

you can do the 20 quality recipie for support gems which is nice

but for skills that scale with gem level like hexblast 21/0 is almost definitely better than 20/20

after 21/0 you can go for 21/20

also your weapon didn't have +1 chaos which would be good to have

[solar vigil]

whats that

[frigid kernel]

if you sell a level 20 support gem with a gcp to a vendor you get the same gem at lv1 with 20 quality

before affliction it worked for skill gems as well

[solar vigil]

ah

[pine wedge]

We feel the need to restate this to emphasize a point: spell gems scale hard with level and 20->21 is huge and it's one of the most important early damage upgrades you can make.

[solar vigil]

ok

[fervent raptor]

Oh yeah, HB gets almost nothing from quality unless you go into it hard

Some skills can get like 10% more damage from 20 qual though, which is approximately what you get from lvl 21 spells

[fervent raptor]

There is an exception to this if you have a high amount of added flat damage, say from spellblade or the like

[grizzled hamlet]

damn

this is so nice

you can just guarantee league mechanics now

[grizzled hamlet]

you can guarantee harvest too

this rules

[cosmic owl]

Both really

Buiuld & atalas are kinda linked

[solar vigil]

Someone on Reddit is saying you can’t opt out of lantern but all they’re linking is an Imgur of the ui so idk

[solar vigil]

YES I FINALLY BEAT KING IN THE MISTS

SHIT BOSS FIGHT GOD

i died as he died, luckily i got the completion

and luckily he didnt drop a TWWT lmao

[solar vigil]

ok i killed him once and now hes popping up a lot more?

[solar vigil]

So my goal this league is kill duo and a stretch goal is maven, so I need to get good at bossing. Im looking for a build that has solid bossing but doesn’t just blow them up instantly or easily tanks them so I can actually learn. Assassin or trickster is a plus but is not mandatory, I just want to play the other shadow ascendancies eventually

[frigid kernel]

Try boneshatter. It can do expedition and jun

Watch a few videos about rog crafting

If you are not sure between jugg and slayer bonezone I suggest picking jugg for a fist go

[pine wedge]

Boneshatter can pretty easily abuse tainted pact as well

ever wanted regenerate multiple times your HP pool per second?

[frigid kernel]

Jugg kinda already does that but it takes a little bit to ramp up

If you drop one ssf it's definitely with corrupting for golden rule

[solar vigil]

i feel like poe 2 is suffering not exaclty from scope creep but they keep changing thier focus

and i dont like how the flasks work

dont get me wrong im still gonna play the hell out of it but yeah

personally i am pro wasd but they shouldnt make it the primary control scheme

wasd and click to move should work equally as well

which is a tough thing to balance i know

but yeah

also the delay is totally fine, take your time rulers

also LE kinda lit a fire under thier ass. Theyre scrambling to be better than and or set themselves apart from LE

[frigid kernel]

LE is so good for poe

I think Chris Wilson is making Poe2 because nobody is playing ruthless and he wants people to experience it

[solar vigil]

yeah theyre making the game difficult for no reason imo

idk why chris is Like That

[frigid kernel]

I think ruthless is a really compelling game mode. Next time there's a league I'm not super excited for I'll give it a try

I should have done that for affliction tbh

[solar vigil]

like theyre trying to make attrition a thing with the flasks and then i look at the roll and im like

hey

stop making the game like dark souls

you dont need to make everything dark souls

[keen dagger]

Chris Wilson thirsts for the pixelated blood of player characters

feed him. he is so hungry

[frigid kernel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slTxqmBCg_s carn says boneshatter might be fucked

so maybe dont do it, which is pretty unhappy

[frigid kernel]

https://pobb.in/v0aoou4tlmMt maybe go for bleed bow gladiator, i was gonna leaguestart this but decided that i will use dd instead because there are apparently new witch voicelines in the campaign i wanna hear

[solar vigil]

f

[grizzled hamlet]

eh, people will figure it out

[solar vigil]

any league starter that is good to learn bosses with, preferably assassin or trickster?

im not gonna like lock in anything this early i just wanna feel out my options

[frigid kernel]

A lot of ppl like frost blade trickster

[solar vigil]

yeah i was looking at that

ill have to figure out how to tell if a claw is good/how to craft one

[cosmic owl]

The roll sold me

Or more specifically one of the videos where a character did this sexy side step fade to mist animation

[solar vigil]

look dark souls is cool

and the dodge roll is v cool

but i dont think we need to go full bore with it imo

[cosmic owl]

Thats fair

[solar vigil]

I totally see them adding elder and atziri into this new Uber bosses framework in 3.25

And reworking/tweaking elder and atziri while they’re at it

[frigid kernel]

The current Uber atziri is part of maven the feared, adding an Uber Uber atziri would be kinda weird

[ember nimbus]

as some one who mains melee builds this is sad to me. Considering the options in POE I should try something new

[solar vigil]

I mean the fight you get from the mortal fragments

And yes im implying removing the mortal fragments (they would get converted to keys)

they probs would never do that tho lmao

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD4cqyKdQM0 @cosmic owl non ranger gameplay!

[solar vigil]

oh jeez are we gonna have to worry aobut enemy resistances and run multiple elements? thats kinda annoying

cos that ||candlemass boss took really long for them||

for some reason chris wants this to be even more of a diablo 2 successor than poe 1 reaaaaly bad and like. maybe diablo 2 has stuff that doesn't need to be brought forward into the modern day

[grizzled hamlet]

poe 2 will be way slower and deliberate yes

poe 1 wont go anywhere tho so if you end up not liking 2, theyll keep working and updating 1 in parallel

[solar vigil]

no im fine with that but like.... i dont like the non regenerating flasks and the having to match enemy resistances

[grizzled hamlet]

idk if youll need to match

plus this is act 1 stuff?

[solar vigil]

well i mean

like if youre a fire build and they have high fire resist youre screwed

dont get me wrong im still gonna play the hell out of it cos monk

ill deal

[grizzled hamlet]

you get the per weapon trees in path 2, so you can have an ice tree and a fire tree at the same time for each weapon swap

[solar vigil]

true but if you wanna dedicate to 1 element as a themed build youre kinda SOL it seems like? unless we can get some strong res pen eventually

[grizzled hamlet]

theres pen theres curses and such

[solar vigil]

yeah

[grizzled hamlet]

i wont judge too hard of pre beta footage

[solar vigil]

yeah

[fervent raptor]

its been pretty clear that ggg would like players to have at least some alternate damage types available in their build given even current poe's design on resistances and displaying them, as well as shown things in poe2 like binding skills to weapons and having the weapon-specific skill trees

[solar vigil]

yeah

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow geyser]

So I'm late to Path of Exile 2 chat, by weapon specific skill trees are we talking alternate passive trees for equipping different weapon types?

So instead of branching into an axes passive cluster it's its own baby passive tree?

[fervent raptor]

You have a limited number of passive points that you can allocate differently for the two different weapon slots

[hollow geyser]

Finally no need to slam 10 regret orbs when a sweet weapon of another type drops

[fervent raptor]

so like the majority of your build is going to be the same, but to make up an example based on the poe1 tree you could have the Heart of Winter cluster allocated while you've Weapon 1 equipped, and the Heart of Flames (or w/e the top fire cluster is) when you have Weapon 2 equipped

and then your weapon 1 is big flat cold with big cold% that you use for cold skills

and then you use a fire skill and it auto-swaps your weapon to weapon 2 which is big flat fire with fire% and swaps those tree passives over

[hollow geyser]

I'm highly into this autoswap mechanic

Have they mentioned if Path of Exile 1 MTX carry over into Path of Exile 2?

[fervent raptor]

they do

[hollow geyser]

Sweet, my regal weapon aura from Path of Exile 1 beta will live on

[fervent raptor]

except in cases where they can't (for example I believe there aren't brands in poe2 so the brand mtx won't carry)

[hollow geyser]

That tracks; hooray for persistence of fabulous blorbos

[keen dagger]

that's all the bosses in the first act?

sheesh that's a lot of boss fights

[solar vigil]

oh no people are already making memes about this huh

look i like dark souls but

eh

i can deal

[keen dagger]

I made this 😛

[solar vigil]

oh i see

post it on the reddit ig

[keen dagger]

i dont have a reddit account

[solar vigil]

i hope the game doesnt devolve into dodge roll, attack once, repeat forever

[keen dagger]

I do think this looks fun

[keen dagger]

I also want to mention that the sound design of attacks is so sweet

[solar vigil]

yeah

[cosmic owl]

<3

[cosmic owl]

Not entirely keen on the play pattern of "drop fire wall, shoot through it" though

Like it get that its cool to have field effects, but its not exactly dynamic

[frigid kernel]

Yes but you get multiple trees or something

[solar vigil]

yeah true

but people that wanna make like, a themed fire build for example are kinda SOL unless we get ways to reduce bosses ele res by a lot

[keen dagger]

Not every game with elemental damage is going to feature the pyromancer play fantasy as something "you can do and it will be good", nor should they.

It's a choice, and I kind of like having to use more than 1-2 active skills. It's part of why I've been having so much fun with Last Epoch.

[solar vigil]

also, im surprised the poe 1 wiki updates THAT quickly

[frigid kernel]

think of how many uber tier nerds with the amount of attention to detail required to play poe1

[solar vigil]

true

[solar vigil]

Any good bow starters on trickster or assassin?

Or any non cast on crit assassin builds really (I just don’t like cyclone)

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/aOuWaEuCDRA

[grizzled hamlet]

https://fxtwitter.com/Localldentity/status/1771513224359297158

[solar vigil]

F R O G S https://youtu.be/piGQR69LO4s?feature=shared

[solar vigil]

HUH

that’s siiiiick

[solar vigil]

I’d bet there’s gonna be a challenge to replace everything in a map with frogs

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--fcrQJL9Wc

lily just holding her phone up for the entire presentation

ugh dont like the thumbnail

for poe 1 players
jonathan, thats most of the room excluding you and octavian

[solar vigil]

Ugh I can’t find anything for assassin so I’ll probably go frost blades trickster

[pine wedge]

Our current front runner is cold conversion blade vortex occultist.

[solar vigil]

God they need to nerf pathfinder

[pine wedge]

They indirectly did with the TS nerf and the flask nerfs.

Actual, TS nerf was more Deadeye than Pathfinder.

[solar vigil]

m o r e

its still crowding out so many other ascendancies

(or buff those ascendancies but you get what i mean)

[pine wedge]

Nah, nerf is the way to go. Only buffing gets you late development Diablo III

And PoE is already having issues with damage and HP caps

[solar vigil]

yeah

[hollow geyser]

Are they running into WoW style integer bloat

[pine wedge]

Sort of? If you do deep Delve you'll pretty rapidly start fighting bosses with HP at the 32 bit int HP cap of 2.1 billion.

And DoTs have a very low cap of I think 20 million DPS because DoT damage is stored as damage per minute for some godforsaken reason.

It's not something the average player is going to run into (unless you play a DoT build then it's a serious consideration when talking about heavy investment)

[hollow geyser]

Delve always was kind of a gamble on if you can even see anything not because of the light mechanic but because of enemy density

Which is what I ask out of Path of Exile so it's all good

[pine wedge]

If you decide to hit the delve scaling cap of 6000 IIRC literally everything on screen has HP cap

Which is why super deep delve builds total BS

[hollow geyser]

Weren't most of them abusing ways to hit 100% resist which were patched subsequently

[pine wedge]

Unkillable and capable of dealing billions of DPS in AoE

[pine wedge]

I mean, maybe? They still hit that cap every league tbf

[hollow geyser]

The dream lives on

[pine wedge]

They do 90% cap all res and do damage conversions and stuff

[hollow geyser]

I knew someone who vowed to take Double Strike the distance each PoE league and I hadn't checked on that for years so I wonder if finally the dream is viable

[solar vigil]

Thing is, frost blades uses the taming pretty early on. I’m not sure if I would be able to buy it once I get to maps or I’d have to farm it from div cards

Idk how to farm Div cards

[pine wedge]

IIRC one of the Double Strike trans gems is decent

[pine wedge]

Find where it drops then run that area until it drops while also making sure it's on your loot filter.

[solar vigil]

Yeah but I’m not sure how to like, juice it yaknow

[pine wedge]

Quant and div scarabs.

But at the point you can juice with those you're going to have the ~50c to just buy it

[solar vigil]

Yeah

[pine wedge]

Looks like Hunter's Reward is 15c at league start

[solar vigil]

Cos you gotta get the three berek’s rings and vendor em to get the taming

[pine wedge]

So 45c to buy in a league start scenario

[solar vigil]

And you can farm the bereks rings from heterocromia which is in estuary, a t3 map this league

[pine wedge]

The majority of the cost is Respite which is a tier 3 drop

[solar vigil]

I see

I just don’t know how soon/with how much currency I’ll beat the campaign with

[pine wedge]

IIRC heterochromia got nerfed this league indirectly

Because of the map rotations

[solar vigil]

I’m not looking to rush super fast or anything it’s just something I noticed about the build

Then it also uses heatshiver and yoke of suffering

[pine wedge]

You'll probably just want to buy Hunter's Rewards

Or straight up buy the ring

[solar vigil]

Oh

I see

Didn’t notice that card

[pine wedge]

Or, if you get lucky and get a Respite direct drop you can buy the 1c component rings and chill

[solar vigil]

Yoke of suffering is a t17 boss drop now

[pine wedge]

How important is it to the build?

Is it "needed to function" or "very strong upgrade and your first major purchase"

Heatshiver should be fairly cheap due to the nerf

[solar vigil]

Taming? The latter I think

It’s still a league starter

[pine wedge]

We mean Yoke of Suffering

[solar vigil]

Uh it’s added with heatshiver

After the taming

[pine wedge]

The Taming and Heat Shiver are going to run you ~50c each day one

Heatshiver post nerf isn't nearly as popular as it once was

[solar vigil]

Yeah I’m def not getting through the entire campaign day one trust me

[pine wedge]

It's good, and multiple builds are recommending it, but it's not 3.22 Heatshiver

[solar vigil]

It’s a lot less to go off of than the entire maxroll guide I had with hexblast but I’m sure I can manage https://pobb.in/ymBrHw1WYf0l

[pine wedge]

But yeah, Taming and Heatshiver are going to be expensive but not that bad.

[solar vigil]

Isn’t there a way to turn a unique into a cosmetic?

[pine wedge]

Maybe? We aren't aware of a way but that hardly means anything

[fervent raptor]

its like 35.7m dps capped, but that should be fine regardless as its taken damage, not outgoing

[solar vigil]

Seems like EA champion is the bossing build I want but i don’t vibe with it tbh

[keen dagger]

when you fire a projectile? so gmp has 5 chances to trigger?

[grizzled hamlet]

hm

[keen dagger]

if so that's a lot of projectile spam lol

[grizzled hamlet]

barrage would be silly if thats how it works

[keen dagger]

it costs 10,000 chaos to fire this wand for 6 seconds

[cosmic owl]

@grizzled hamlet Is fire trap frost blink still a viable starter?

I'm so out of date on half of the mechanics now hahaha

"just get a cleave of rage" one guide writes.... so also whats with X of Y gems?

[grizzled hamlet]

Uhhh
Ignite frost blink should be good?
Fire trap got somewhat nerfed for leveling but traps overall are still good?

[pine wedge]

how old is the guide?

Because cleave of rage got hit pretty hard

not unplayable, but no longer "clear multiple screens at once"

[cosmic owl]

3.24

What is a cleave of rage, btw?

I get cleave, I get rage, but cleave of rage is new to me

Just a new skill?

[pine wedge]

trans gems!\

When you complete lab now you can trans a gem

which changes it into one of many trans gems

Which are basically modified versions of base gems

Cleave of Rage is Cleave with very strict weapon requirements (you must duel wield a sword and an axe) in return for AoE that scales based on Rage.

They came out last league

and people had a ton of fun until everyone realized the Penance Brand of Dissipation was busted

So busted it's been nerfed by around ~60% and it's still a pretty strong option especially for Sanctum.

[cosmic owl]

oof

[cosmic owl]

When was that nerf? I'm looking at a guide from 3.21

[grizzled hamlet]

no idea tbh

[solar vigil]

1.2 aps tho

[pine wedge]

I know fire trap is still used on RF builds

[grizzled hamlet]

i just remember it being nerfed somewhat for leveling?

[solar vigil]

Be wary of starters that use transfigured gems, getting them can be a crapshoot early on

They’re semi random from lab

[pine wedge]

Yeah, generally you want a build thats fine with a normal gem than transitions to a trans gem in maps

Caustic Arrow of Poison is a good example.

[grizzled hamlet]

as in real life, being trans takes time

[pine wedge]

Poison Caustic Arrow is a solid enough build and will sail through campaign and most of the atlas

Then you pick up Caustic Arrow of Poison and it just keeps going

[solar vigil]

But with like cleave of rage, I’m not sure how good regular cleave or whatever leveling skill it uses is yaknow

Man pathfinder needs a nerf

Assassins only niche is coc

And I really don’t like cyclone

[cosmic owl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2tVycCcUYU this was the guide fwiw. Seemed okay, but not really my thing

[pine wedge]

tbh Zizeran or Maxroll are our recommended guide sources

They'll give you the meta choices at least

safe, they work, and their guides are generally well done

[solar vigil]

Maxroll is filled with ads and will make you wait for five seconds if you’re using an adblocker

And they’re trying to start shit in the LE community

Ziz is great but he doesn’t have any guides out yet

[pine wedge]

Yeah, I expect them to start rolling out soon at least

[solar vigil]

Maxroll does make very nice and detailed guides but maybe goes a bit overboard with uniques imo?

[cosmic owl]

Also they treat their creators like shit

[solar vigil]

Yeah

[cosmic owl]

I personally avoid them because LEtools are great and I don't like them hating on it

[solar vigil]

They’re good guides but morally it’s not good.

I wanna try to do a bow build on assassin next league but it’s just. Not there rn

[solar vigil]

Oh no this frost blades build might be really squishy…

I might go splitting steel

[cosmic owl]

I've been seeing a bunch about splitting steel

[fervent raptor]

Iirc if you sit on top of a boss it's shapers per second damage

[solar vigil]

so, the frost blades build has less raw HP than what i had on hexblast, but it has more eHP. would it still be squishier or is eHP a better indicatior of tankiness than raw hp?

[pine wedge]

eHP is a better indicator

But is sensitive to damage types

But also scales better when you do start HP stacking

[solar vigil]

Ok

It’s just that the low life values on the frost blades build concerned me and I thought it might be one of those hyper optimized sacrifice defenses for damage assumes you’re good at the game type builds

But I think it’s ok?

Maybe?

[pine wedge]

Also note that you're probably looking at early gear

And tbh it's probably a softcore build

So it's going to be pretty squish regardless.

Softcore players just as a rule value damage over survivability. It's why wardloop is a thing. Glass cannon of a build but lots of automated damage.

[solar vigil]

Seems like the defenses come from a lot of evasion, spell suppression which is v strong on trickster, and just being a trickster in general

[solar vigil]

I might do splitting steel trickster but that uses ci

[solar vigil]

I think EA champ is the build I want in terms of learning bosses but I’m not sure if I’ll vibe with how it feels

[fervent raptor]

Neither are especially great tbh - max hit and recovery are what you want, with a skew towards max hit for bossing and recovery for mapping

Raw HP doesn't really tell you much by itself and eHP can be a misleading number

[solar vigil]

Ok

[pine wedge]

https://youtu.be/6TIaNEj98JY?si=Dmz9lvK-ZFzL5B3c

[solar vigil]

bird

oh this is SUPER helpful hell yeah

i think splitting steel is also good on trickster i dont think he mentioned that

unless hes not including duplicate skills, he does mention it for champion

[fervent raptor]

Shadow is primarily a spellcaster

[solar vigil]

i wish there was a bow skill that was best on assassin, or at least worth running on assassin so i can complete the little trifecta i have going if i do frost blades trickster. at least hopefully assassin gets buffed next league

i did hexblast mines saboteur last league

so i would have all three shadow ascendancies and spell-melee-bow

[fervent raptor]

sad wander noises

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb2PHGOuq3U @cosmic owl

subtractem does good builds

[cosmic owl]

oooh an update

cheers

[fervent raptor]

I'm tempted to roll a wander with the new support actually

plus trans KB (assuming it's good!)

[grizzled hamlet]

i would suggest not league starting with a wander

they really need currency to get going

[fervent raptor]

TOO LATE

it'll be fiiine

although bama is always tempting

[pine wedge]

Btw, we definitely recommend sirgog.

He's very much the right type of super nerd that it's useful to keep an eye on for weird but important info

[fervent raptor]

Hwat

New gems: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-post/25273642

Ooh "Cast when" supports now allow you to cast the spell directly instead of being trigger-only

Could be minorly useful to gen power charges for CoC if nothing else?

Archmage support looks really good now as well?

[pine wedge]

Oh, mana stacking got a big old shake up this patch yeah

And the Archmage change is actually kind of funny

the old version could be reverse snapshotted to easily create multibillion DPS

So this change is meant to remove that interaction, but by doing so also majorly buffed the gem for more general manastacking use.

[fervent raptor]

Which is good, really

Definitely tickles the ol' Hiero hindbrain

[pine wedge]

Just, note if you're planning to manastack: the manastacking helmet (forget the name) is in limbo right now and could end up locked behind uber uber elder.

[fervent raptor]

Indigon

[pine wedge]

Yeah, that.

But if it's behind uber uber elder expect it to be very expensive for a while

[fervent raptor]

I mean that's also kinda fine because Archmage provides a nice segue now, while before it was massively improved by Indigon

[pine wedge]

It'll come down over time no doubt (it's no Progenesis), but it makes league starting mana a dangerous idea

[fervent raptor]

Like the old Archmage+Indigon interaction ramped mana cost to get a big flat from AM, while now you get consistent value from raising your mana pool just from AM

Oh shit that fixes Sanctuary of Thought, too

[solar vigil]

i hunger for a bow skill that works well with assassin

[fervent raptor]

Bow spell or bust, really

You don't have the accuracy on Shadow to do bows well

[solar vigil]

bow spell?

[fervent raptor]

Well

You can cast with a bow and sometimes they work well for the available mods

I'm not actually sure if that still holds true though tbf

[fervent raptor]

So previously SoT's mana reduction looked at the pre-AM cost of your spell and halved it, and then AM raised it to 5% of your unreserved mana

Now that the 5% is an added cost instead of a base cost, SoT will apply to it

[fervent raptor]

Yeah fuck it might start mana stack abso hiero

[cosmic owl]

I'd be keen on building something archmagey, but I get the impression its going to be very popular

[fervent raptor]

Oh for sure, but I'm happy to start it and swap off before needing Indigon/Manastorm etc

Still got that wander tumbling over in my head!

Especially with that Tri-Ele EH 👀

[fervent raptor]

Been thinking on the manastack and from some napkin calcs, you should be able to hit like 2k unreserved mana in white maps without much effort, which would add 380 flat lightning (twice what Added Lightning gives)

This is the equivalent of spending about 500 mana per cast with old AM while costing closer to 75?

You don't need the insane recovery to sustain the casting, excess recovery can viably go into MoM, you don't need a way to spend 500 each cast

The spending was obviously Indigon before and that came with its own problems (ramp time, excess ramp)

Certainly interested in pobbing some stuff up later

[solar vigil]

Forg.

[pine wedge]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3497694/page/1

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrGhakEF8QY

[fervent raptor]

O shit you can EB MoM with Archmage now

Although I suppose if you're leaving a lot unreserved that's not worth, right?

[solar vigil]

I’m split between wanting to play trickster to play shadow more and a build with a more passive play style (totems, minions dot, brand, etc) so I can focus on dodging bosses more and I’m struggling to find a build that’s the best of both worlds

Seems like assassin can do pennance brand of dissapation actually? Can’t seem to find a guide updated for 3.24 tho

[solar vigil]

Eh. Seems like it’s real squishy tho

[fervent raptor]

if you want brands hiero is right there 😛

[solar vigil]

yeah but i would like to play shadow more if possible

[prime spruce]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3497866

[solar vigil]

Does anyone have experience with EA champ? The main thing I’m concerned about is the clearing experience

[solar vigil]

hm. threw together the barebones of it in standard, doesnt seem too bad

[prime spruce]

You could consider the elementalist version too if you're softcore, more damage but less defenses

[solar vigil]

id rahter do champ tbh

and it seems like the endgame build has active skills to use while youre waiting for them to blow up so

[solar vigil]

is there any specific reason why people tend to RUSH to endgame asap on league start?

[pine wedge]

Mostly it comes down to PoE doesn't start until maps.

People play PoE for mapping so speedrunning campaign means you can start mapping immediately. This also lets you start playing with the league mechanics ASAP as well as play with the changes from the patch

Or, if you're a trade focused player, getting to endgame early means you can start trading early.

And many very easy to access items and materials tend to be way more expensive at league start which means you can turn a profit very quickly.

And an early profit means you can buy one a chase item much earlier than everyone else due to chase items having a depressed price at league start

[solar vigil]

i see

anyways, what are yall league starting
I’m still split between frost blades and ea

[pine wedge]

Lighting Conduit probably

May or may not be going Archmage

It's a solid build without the gem, but will be over the top if it works in a league start scenario

[solar vigil]

i see

[fervent raptor]

Wavering on AM or Wander

[solar vigil]

Does corrupting fever count as a wander?

[fervent raptor]

Wander is wand attacks

So no, not really

Sure you could use a wand to inflict CF but I think you're better off with a dot bow?

Or like, Exsang and double dip

[solar vigil]

Cf champion uses kinetic blast so

Although I guess to count you should be more doing direct damage and not just be inflicting corrupting fever with it

[solar vigil]

I’m gonna do it

I’m gonna put on the ring

I’m starting explosive arrow, reason being it’s a solid build, and if I want to do frost blades later this league I’ll have another character that I can do stuff on in case I mess up building frost blades correctly, and it's a lot more fitting for my goals this league

[cosmic owl]

non-linear curves of currency acquisition

You can think of poe end game as a series of tiers of content difficulty, each with progressively greater rewards per time spent.

Getting there faster means you make more currency faster, which means you upgrade your build faster, which means you progress faster, which means you get loot faster faster.....

[cosmic owl]

also this: if you're playing the meta build that season, being ahead of the curve is insanely important

I kinda suck at poe, and normally lag pretty heavily, so I've seen the bad end of that

Playing a "huh this looks cool" build, that turns out a bit weak but also uses a meta piece..... my early experiences succccccked

[solar vigil]

I see

[cosmic owl]

Ended up deciding on frostblink as my starter

[solar vigil]

nice

[frigid kernel]

neversink filters are updated

https://www.filterblade.xyz/

[fervent raptor]

3 hours!

<@&645036117200207913> patch up

[grizzled hamlet]

pog

all patched up

[fervent raptor]

jfc

jenny with the speeeeeed

[grizzled hamlet]

NYOOOM

[fervent raptor]

I'll be over here with my 8MB/s

[fervent raptor]

@paper fossil queueueueueueueueue up

[frigid kernel]

you just pinged some dude

[fervent raptor]

oh balls

sorry exile

<@&645036117200207913> queueueue up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAeYx7pD_P0

[night yew]

Hi can I please be taken off the exile role? Especially since we're entering three-role-pings-a-minute season.

I haven't played this game in uh. Two, three years.

I should've done this sooner, honestly.

(I have no idea how or where to request role removal, sorry.)

[fervent raptor]

should be able to ?rank Exile in #bot-stuff

or just drop a mod a message

[grizzled hamlet]

removed!

and ye league launch is a bit ping heavy

[night yew]

Thanks, appreciate it.

[pine wedge]

[fervent raptor]

very early queue yeah

[grizzled hamlet]

poe queue moves fast tbh

[pine wedge]

Yeah, we're still in the XIV queue number mindset

[grizzled hamlet]

if youre like, 100k+, it might be a bit of a wait

[pine wedge]

where anything above 20k is "you don't get to play today" lmao

[grizzled hamlet]

otherwise its like
youll wait under an hour

[pine wedge]

But we know PoE is different

[solar vigil]

Hasn’t the league not started yet though? How are we able to queue?

[fervent raptor]

essentially queueing outside waiting for the doors to open

[solar vigil]

I haven’t been there for a league start ever so

I see

[grizzled hamlet]

queue starts hours earlier yeah

[fervent raptor]

tbf it hasn't historically been hours

[grizzled hamlet]

i assume it lets them gauge how much to scale and allow them to dinamically do so as more people finish downloading the patch

instead of it all being all at once spamming

[pine wedge]

yeah, you want to get in the door ASAP so you can have a earlier queue

Very important so you can get a good name

because that's the true meta

[fervent raptor]

still don't know what I'm starting

[grizzled hamlet]

well you have a bit of time to decide :P

but honestly anything that ziz posted is probably a safe bet?

[pine wedge]

No one knows what they're starting until they've washed up on the beach

Ziz makes good guides/spotlights good ones and he's pretty good about helping people unfuck builds

[fervent raptor]

oh swing AM icenova ez clap

[pine wedge]

Just know that build is going to require some lab farming

so you can get the right gem

[pine wedge]

Less than half an hour!

[frigid kernel]

im gonna be in the activity 2 channel for the league start to hang

[fervent raptor]

5 minutes!

[frigid kernel]

my filter is setup my pob is open

[fervent raptor]

oh filter

[frigid kernel]

my vendor regex is copied

b-b-r|b-[br]-b|r-b-b|nne|rint|Flame

[fervent raptor]

https://filterblade.xyz

[frigid kernel]

this is for bbr, bbb, +1 fire, 10% ms, and 15% ms

I GOTTA FILL MY WATER BOTTL

[pine wedge]

b-b-r|b-[br]-b|r-b-b|nne|rint|Flam|derha

Ready to roll

SHIT WATER

[frigid kernel]

thats the derha for

[pine wedge]

lightning

[frigid kernel]

o

[fervent raptor]

queue moving!

and we're in

[fervent raptor]

well that's bad

[pine wedge]

Excuse me

what mods!?

[fervent raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-destiny2-d2-the-moon-is-haunted-moons-haunted-gif-15813508

[fervent raptor]

Two out of four riverways beasts being fire and ignite resistant sucks

[solar vigil]

yeah i ran into this too

so waht are these regexes

[fervent raptor]

paste em into the search box of item vendors to filter for useful things

[solar vigil]

i see

[keen dagger]

this seems quite good

although isn't helmet a very powerful rare slot for minion builds

[fervent raptor]

yeah, usually

but like, Raks charge stack minions

[fervent raptor]

what in the fuck

haunted body mod

[keen dagger]

seems good

[fervent raptor]

bleed boots bleed boots

[fervent raptor]

first normal lab 🙃

[pine wedge]

Congrats!

That's some damn good luck

[fervent raptor]

it sure is lmao

I was just starting to enjoy the firestorm haha

[pine wedge]

IIRC 95% chance is at 30ish runs

[solar vigil]

wait

||dont you fight brutus in another room normally?||

[fervent raptor]

they changed it a few leagues back

[solar vigil]

ah

[fervent raptor]

when they first started updating the acts

[solar vigil]

EINHAR THE GOAT HOLY SHIT

[keen dagger]

I love that over a decade later this is still just an amazing levelling item

[pine wedge]

Alright, tapping out for the night at act 9.

Level 65.

[solar vigil]

zeeeesh

im still in act 2

granted i havent been playing all day but yeah

[frigid kernel]

i got dd of chain reaction

right now im in merc lab jail

i just need to trans my lancing steel

and i can become the dd coc mom

[fervent raptor]

okay I am truly playing another visual clarity build

[pine wedge]

Lmao not surprised

when I think "little visual clutter" Ice Nove is definitely what springs to mind

[pine wedge]

Reminder!
/passives will show you any passives you missed once you've finished the campgain!

[cosmic owl]

I had the same, it was pretty spooky

[fervent raptor]

yeah I'm guessing its a fixed thing now

https://tenor.com/view/canon-event-lochan-bwefi-lochan-bwefi-spiderman-gif-1748690152864391590

did an allflame ember that drops quality gems

got 133% worth of qual

nice little targets for lab swaps

[cosmic owl]

I've made it to act 7, not quite as much as I'd wish but I started pretty late

[solar vigil]

Trans your gemder

[solar vigil]

Oh does transing a gem keep its quality?

[fervent raptor]

yup

[solar vigil]

Nice

[fervent raptor]

hmm

[grizzled hamlet]

bitterdream get

i am ready for t16s

[fervent raptor]

...I wonder how funny bitterdream would be for me

[hollow geyser]

Is bitterdream actually pretty cool? Seems like a 9 link is a winner in theory

[fervent raptor]

it's very good if you can work out the mana cost

[grizzled hamlet]

its a 10/10 unique for starting icicle mine

you transition into the +5 aura boots

but if you get a bitter dream early it just solves your damage real early

[hollow geyser]

I'm all for trap and mine gameplay and yeah those supports fit nicely

RIP old school ignite proliferation with fire traps

[fervent raptor]

winning

[frigid kernel]

i have become the DD CoC MoM

[fervent raptor]

I've certainly ID'd worse wands

[pine wedge]

God damn that's really good for our build

unfortunately we can't give you a good price for it

[fervent raptor]

ah I crafted cast speed and equipped it

+20% sheet dps for me

doin p okay for now!

[keen dagger]

mind over matter?

or archmage (or both)

[fervent raptor]

both

[keen dagger]

hell yeah

[pine wedge]

New base

Got it from a ritual

[rustic grotto]

Looks like I'm doing detonate dead ele this league

Makes a change of pace from doing SRS Necro

[fervent raptor]

open prefix for spell damage craft -> ignite build? 🤔

[fervent raptor]

only one uber unique left to be discovered

[solar vigil]

Isn’t this a really good defensive peice?

Since isn’t life a bit better than es point for point

[fervent raptor]

as ever, it depends

[solar vigil]

I see

[fervent raptor]

there are a lot of good uses for ES

[solar vigil]

I mean as a defensive layer

[fervent raptor]

even still

[solar vigil]

Ok

[fervent raptor]

it's more meant for a life-stack witch

or scion

[fervent raptor]

open prefix for damage% if you want it

[pine wedge]

Sorry, just woke up from nap. Give us a second to check pod

[fervent raptor]

I'm not in a rush!

[pine wedge]

Can you copy paste it here?

[fervent raptor]

alt paste?

`Item Class: Wands
Rarity: Rare
Torment Scratch
Imbued Wand

Wand
Physical Damage: 29-53
Elemental Damage: 24-44 (augmented)
Critical Strike Chance: 7.00%
Attacks per Second: 1.50

Requirements:
Level: 59
Int: 188

Sockets: B B

Item Level: 71

{ Implicit Modifier — Damage, Caster }
37(33-37)% increased Spell Damage (implicit)

{ Prefix Modifier "Discharging" (Tier: 2) — Damage, Elemental, Lightning, Caster }
Adds 8(4-11) to 138(136-144) Lightning Damage to Spells
{ Prefix Modifier "Freezing" (Tier: 6) — Damage, Elemental, Cold, Attack }
Adds 24(22-30) to 44(44-51) Cold Damage
{ Suffix Modifier "of Flight" (Tier: 4) — Speed }
18(18-25)% increased Projectile Speed
{ Suffix Modifier "of Ruin" (Tier: 2) — Caster, Critical }
82(80-99)% increased Critical Strike Chance for Spells
`

[pine wedge]

You can keep it or sell it!

Doesn't improve our DPS more than the unique we have on unforunately

[fervent raptor]

no worries!

[pine wedge]

Also the unique has a cool ground effect and we can't loose that

[fervent raptor]

I think the only thing it'd have over Singularity is the crit chance 🤔

[pine wedge]

Yeah and we're not going crit

[fervent raptor]

hrmm

[pine wedge]

Nameless Seer my man

[fervent raptor]

big pog

[pine wedge]

Wasn't a damage gain for us (archmage support is fucking nuts), so we sold it and spent the money and got some much needed gear upgrades

[grizzled hamlet]

acts done, all passives get, tomorrow ill attempt to fix resists, do merc lab and start mapping ~w~

[fervent raptor]

yeah, AM sure is good

taking it out of my links:

[pine wedge]

Our current build is super squishy but it has 2.4 mil DPS 🙂

[cosmic owl]

How do ya'll price jewels?

I've got one atm

Item Level: 57
--------
+16 to Intelligence
15% increased Spell Damage while holding a Shield
14% increased Cold Damage
+12% to Cold and Lightning Resistances
--------

And that seems pretty good: 4x t1 rolls, and all are kinda useful

[fierce gust]

Jewels are difficult to price. First of all, all mods are T1 on every jewel. Life and Mana Reservation Efficiency are the two most thought after mods, so later in the league you pretty much need one of them for your jewel to sell for a lot.
I would just put it up for like 8-10c or something and lower the price every hour.

[cosmic owl]

surely anything granting mana this league would be sought

[fervent raptor]

whew if only I was crit

[fervent raptor]

waiting on some more quality and more mana mods to drop

[fervent raptor]

The final unique has been found

[grizzled hamlet]

[fervent raptor]

Aiui the different Ubers drop fragments that you combine into the amulet

Not sure if it's set Ubers or not

[solar vigil]

is valling two stone rings that are like.. good enough to use but not straight up upgrades to you to try and get the + to all ele res mods a good idea?

[cosmic owl]

Miracle League
Vaal Greaves
--------
Quality: +15% (augmented)
Armour: 289 (augmented)
--------
Regenerate 28.4 Life per second
15% increased Life Regeneration rate
+35% to Fire Resistance
Movement Speed cannot be modified to below Base Value
Unaffected by Burning Ground
14% increased Movement Speed (crafted)

Necropolis crafting is wierd

[fervent raptor]

Yeah for sure

cba to wait for more qual, gonna do it!

nice to see that it wasn't worth at all either way

[fervent raptor]

🤔

[fervent raptor]

oh god I did not know how much I needed Frostblink of Wintry in my life

[pine wedge]

Really cool amulet tbh.

Requires drops from all 4 ubers and has some nuts variance so there's some delicious gambling going on there.

[fervent raptor]

yeah for sure

great chaser

and also generally just really good stats

[fervent raptor]

okay so I know the Hiero charge node is good for the 4 perma endus, but holy shit this is actually nuts with instant leech

[fervent raptor]

🙏

big pog

Necro BAMA time?

[solar vigil]

Oof, good thing I didn’t play frost blades

(It drops from ||Uber Unbreakable, the boss of T17 fortress||)

[pine wedge]

Honestly as fun as our build is it's the wrong league for it.
There is so much damage in maps because of the league mechanic and there's no way to opt out

[fervent raptor]

getting there

[keen dagger]

what is your ehp like 50k lol

[solar vigil]

Yeah…

I wish there was a way to opt out, they’ll probably add it eventually

[fervent raptor]

what a bizarre wand

okay I take that

[keen dagger]

what spell are you using?

arc?

[fervent raptor]

Ice Nova of Frostbolts

just archmaging it

[keen dagger]

do you use some kind of automation to cast frostbolt

[fervent raptor]

arca brand

[fervent raptor]

no flasks or buffs (arcane cloak, sigil of power)

[cosmic owl]

the dream hahaha

[frigid kernel]

The opt out is play standard

[solar vigil]

you know why that isnt true

[frigid kernel]

I don't know about trade other than I dislike it

[solar vigil]

Just switched over to EA, it feels less interactive than normal but it is comfy

And the arrow exploding noise is satisfying

[grizzled hamlet]

i dont see them letting you skip the mechanic

[rustic grotto]

https://twitter.com/AlysiaYuunagi/status/1774795250608857554

Alysia Yuunagi | 夕凪アリシア 🦉🍸 (@AlysiaYuunagi) on X

Righty, going live shortly with Path of Exile (finally made a decision)

https://t.co/OkWfSdFMK0

Twitter · Apr 1, 2024, 1:45 PM

[fervent raptor]

huh pretty sure my game down-res'd for the first time

noticeably, at least

I didn't even realise I had dynamic res on

also I think someone must've been listening to my internal grumblings about map scarcity and my difficulty progressing tiers

that map just dropped exactly one of every tier from 7-14

[pine wedge]

It's so funny when it happens

It happened when we were doing juiced 8 mod breach farming

With a DoT build and Occultist pops

[fervent raptor]

I think mine was an exped with a shit load of blocking mobs

[frigid kernel]

solid rolls

[fervent raptor]

hmm I should swap Inspiration out for something else I think

I actually can't even get 3

258/cast, lose all charges on spending 730

[fervent raptor]

...just over 2k per second cost

[keen dagger]

lmao

that's really funny

[fervent raptor]

also up to a 59% MoM effect

[fervent raptor]

okay there's clearly some wack maths going on in the background

oh wait no I'm just an idiot

anyway, this is good, actually

I have neutral sustain again!

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3501124/page/1#p25283332

Huge changes tbh

[fervent raptor]

amazing

[solar vigil]

this is HUGE, but i still feel like there are gonna be some major issues (or at least people complaining) until you can opt out

[grizzled hamlet]

i genuinely dont think you should be able to opt out of the league mechanic

it should be optional to have the screen to pick what goes where before each map

and it should just auto go with the default setting if you dont click the lantern

but the league mechanic being opt in feels like a wrong move

[hollow geyser]

Aren't most mechanics opt in with a "click on this for a huge fight" mechanic?

Granted the last time I really did a league was Harvest and Blight

[grizzled hamlet]

big fight ones yes

necropolis is general buffs to mobs in the area

[hollow geyser]

Scarabception

[cosmic owl]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[cosmic owl]

Just sold a jewel for 4 divine

feels good

[fervent raptor]

yo?

[fervent raptor]

Flaring
Not fire damage

[fervent raptor]

okay thinking on it further, I think my dynamic res issues might have to do with the fact that I'm casting Ice Nova ~30 times a second

[fervent raptor]

pls game drop me a hypnotic or two?

[cosmic owl]

fun fact: this is not a 5 link

but it sure looks it in poe with that light edge on the armour

I've been doing t14 on a 2 link

[fervent raptor]

lmao

foible from the seer and a vaal aspect on boss

[grizzled hamlet]

LOL, but also look up travic on YouTube, he's my go to for blight

[cosmic owl]

cheers, will do if I do blight this league

Have made some 1000chaos off expedition thus far, which is pretty neat

Need to actually sit down and do the thing where I turn a pile of divines - last I played exalts were the big currency lol - into better than good enough equipment

as is I have a lot of jank

Like 1 bit of ward gear haha

[fervent raptor]

eyy got my two voidstones

[fervent raptor]

oh I see, Forbidden Tomes area level is relevant 🙃

[cosmic owl]

@grizzled hamlet

Ghoul Glimmer
Crimson Jewel
--------
Item Level: 70
--------
16% increased Global Physical Damage
5% increased maximum Life
+12% to Fire and Cold Resistances
+10% to Cold and Lightning Resistances

Start with magic max life, aug resists, regal resists, think for a mo, exalt slam because why not

[grizzled hamlet]

believe in the vision

[grizzled hamlet]

https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1775351225330053359

Path of Exile (@pathofexile) on X

We recently announced some improvements to the Necropolis league that we've been working on. Many of these improvements will be coming in patch 3.24.0b, which we're planning to release later today. Check out the patch notes preview in today's news post.

https://t.co/MFWMPKZ9q1

Twitter · Apr 3, 2024, 2:34 AM

Tier 17 Maps can now be modified by Chaos Orbs.
huge

[fervent raptor]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-post/25286234

[cosmic owl]

good patch

1 map

[hollow geyser]

Dang that's a lot of scarabs

[rustic grotto]

Is the patch live already?

[fervent raptor]

Yeah

Went live around 6am

[rustic grotto]

pog

I can start fixing my defenses

I overcapped on resistances but have gigantic holes in mit

Only 27% spell suppression is suffering

[fervent raptor]

0% suppression

I just have a giant effective health pool instead

MoM gaming

[rustic grotto]

I was dying a lot in just a T1 map, but still did enough damage to clear packs by the dozen, so it's abundantly clear where my holes lie

[fervent raptor]

You're on ele, right?

It's the squishiest witch, possibly the squishiest ascendancy full stop tbh

[rustic grotto]

Yeah, ele dd

[tawny galleon]

i am bad at poe but now that i'm not getting dragged through it by someone much much better than me it it quite fun

[fervent raptor]

Lowlife PB?

[rustic grotto]

?

[fervent raptor]

Petrified Blood

[rustic grotto]

Not running that

[fervent raptor]

If you're down by Melding it can be worth considering - will drop your max hit by a bit but smoothens your incoming damage out, and makes recovery options like Vitality and Recoup much more powerful

And also lets you take Pain Attunement for the damage

If you're particular in how you do it and have some form of life leech, you can also get effective overleech

[fervent raptor]

If you're reserving a lot of your mana pool, EB+MoM is another common one

[solar vigil]

Harvest 2 has arrived https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/dg8JZGKTZy

[grizzled hamlet]

lets gooooooooooo

[solar vigil]

something something "given the chance players will optimize the fun out of a game"

[hollow geyser]

"Path of Excel" comment gave me a sensible chuckle

[cosmic owl]

sadge

next one hit warcries

following one is at least auras

[cosmic owl]

this is not going well hahaha

[cosmic owl]

Lets see if the tab fills up before I hit a good mod

Its getting there

[cosmic owl]

filled the tab, bit the bullet and purchased one

[solar vigil]

How did you get so many?

[cosmic owl]

I just purchased all of them off the tradesite

@grizzled hamlet or @fervent raptor any idea what I can do to finish this craft off?

[fervent raptor]

Rf?

[cosmic owl]

frostblink ignite

[fervent raptor]

Oh, I think you multimod, filling suffixes and protect them, then veiled orb which is guaranteed to hit the suffix protection

[tawny galleon]

new player question: can you reset ascendancy skillpoints? and if so how?

[fervent raptor]

Skill points yes, ascendancy itself no

[rustic grotto]

Huh? You can change ascendancy entirely

[cosmic owl]

sorry, can you go into a bit more detail?

[fervent raptor]

2 mins

They changed the veiled orb to be the Aisling effect, so it removes a mod at random and then adds a veiled mod

So you multimod, keep the fire dot mult suffix (which fills your suffixes) and then craft the "suffixes cannot be changed" prefix

[cosmic owl]

Multimod meaning?

[fervent raptor]

When you veiled orb, it can't hit the suffixes and can't hit the fracture, so it removes the suffix lock and adds a veiled prefix

Oh, multimod is the "you can have up to 3 crafted mods"

Unveil the prefix, hit something good (hopefully idk what's available and can't look it up rn)

Then you still have the multimod so you can craft your last prefix

I think that's the best shot at getting a useful final affix, but idk what's available

[cosmic owl]

So in this case I'd;

• swap the craft prefix for suffixes can't be changed
• veiled slam, which will remove "suffixes can't be changed", and add some veiled prefix
• then reapply the fire/ignite prefix?

[fervent raptor]

The craft needs to be multimod into suffixes cannot

Otherwise the veiled orb could add a suffix

Unless you're fine with that idk

[cosmic owl]

this yea?

[fervent raptor]

Yup

You can test it on coe

[cosmic owl]

Could not generate mod (Can't use while veiled affix is present)

shrug

[fervent raptor]

Is Aisling slam still on coe?

[cosmic owl]

oh right, veiled chaos not aisling

[fervent raptor]

If Coe has updated yeah

[cosmic owl]

yea, wraecrafter hasn't done that update it seems

[fervent raptor]

Sorry I'm foh atm so limit attention I can give

[cosmic owl]

all good

Guess I should imprint this first though, given the cost

oh fuck me they're 2 divine each

[fervent raptor]

If you've not already done anything I'd probably double check with Jenny too

[cosmic owl]

yea cheers

dannig my maaaan

[fervent raptor]

Niiiice

Oh also on the subject I think imprints only work on magic items?

I think you use them when you're like, fractured suffix neck alt spam to +1 all gems then imprint

[fervent raptor]

Okay yeah just messed around on CoE and id definitely hold fire - the veil might be giving terrible chances for things

I'll have a look when I get home

[cosmic owl]

cheers

[fervent raptor]

Jfc

[hollow geyser]

The dream is real

[grizzled hamlet]

people are apparently spamming maps to get the divine drop one

[fervent raptor]

shocker

[fervent raptor]

so, looking at it more closely and yeah CoE is being crap

you can hit great mods on the veiled orb, but the chance to hit them isn't stellar and you're burning divines trying to cycle it

the other thing you can do is multimod + cannot roll attack + suffixes cant be changed and then harvest aug fire, which is guaranteed to either give you +fire damage to spells or % fire damage, but the problem is all the low tier versions are in the pool

you can deterministically 'fix' the craft from here by crafting the suffix lock, scouring, craft suffix lock and then trying the aug again

but again its burning divines

its like 6d per attempt after the harvest material cost

the veiled orb is like 7d per attempt?

[fervent raptor]

20/20 ice nova of frostbolt vs lens

[pine wedge]

Oof

[frigid kernel]

gg

[fervent raptor]

Huh I wonder how good a manastack wander would be now with the new KB for clear

[frigid kernel]

manastack archmage can probably make any build good

[fervent raptor]

Wander being attack

KB of Clustering cannot split, but I wonder if it can fork?

[frigid kernel]

idk

manaforged arrows is probably better

if you want an attack based manastacker

[fervent raptor]

Okay here's some ??? tech

Automation Blood Rage to get the spell cast every 1.5s or so and the BR buff

Manastorm gives you nutty added lightning

Urgh trigger doesn't count as you casting f

[grizzled hamlet]

anyone else having trouble joining instances??

[grizzled hamlet]

after logging in, picking a character, walking through town
going into the lab entrance area, entering lab
get to aspirant trial "oh sorry you must log in"

i wanna fucking scream

this is so infuriating

[cosmic owl]

Only if I'm porting to someones backstreets hideout

[grizzled hamlet]

🙃

[cosmic owl]

@grizzled hamlet

[grizzled hamlet]

Nice

[cosmic owl]

Do I go for the prefix or leave open?

[fervent raptor]

If you leave it open and hunter slam you're guaranteed life%

Could hit T1 at that ilvl, too

Honestly a craft is probably better than gambling on a prefix given there's no "choose the best" on the Rog option

[tawny galleon]

so Poe keeps giving me str based uniques when i'm running a necromancer, but now even when i win i lose

[fervent raptor]

Wonder if that tar would let you make burning-tar ground 🤔

I vaguely recall an instance of people with burning-ground immunity still taking damage on ground that was visibly burning, because it was actually tarred ground that happened to be on fire

[tawny galleon]

there isnt a way to mute people's pets is there?

[grizzled hamlet]

heres a secret, i dont know shit about fuck when it comes to crafting

[fervent raptor]

If you're talking about those stupid goblin "musicians" then no

[tawny galleon]

[fervent raptor]

Welcome to the immediate complaint that a lot of people had when they released

[tawny galleon]

will continue just muting the game when in town

[fervent raptor]

As an aside, turning off sound can help with performance

[solar vigil]

i just beat the campaign but i forgot to do merciless lab gdi

[fervent raptor]

👀 new tech time

dropping the arca brand and hopefully mapping a lot nicer

[fervent raptor]

holy shit its so much nicer

[cosmic owl]

hmmm

how to price this

[fervent raptor]

Oh lmao I get a vid uploaded to demonstrate and one of the sidebar videos is about the tech

Kitava's Thirst to automate frostbolts

https://youtu.be/fQfGP6fu1pE

[solar vigil]

ok im in maps and im broooooke and need chroma orbs. not sure whats a good way to make chaos early

[pine wedge]

Chaos recipe

Sell a full set of unidentified rares and you'll get 2 chaos back

Also, for chromas you'll see them drop faster and faster

Don't waste early chaos in them

[fervent raptor]

Oh, just to be sure do you have a loot filter, Punch?

It should highlight items that vendor for chromes

[solar vigil]

yeah

[fervent raptor]

That's at least one way of getting a small amount passively

What're you trying to recolour?

[solar vigil]

2 pieces of gear, one that’s an armor evasion base to 3 blue 1 red

I just caved and bought an es helmet off trade so I could get my gems going

I’ll mess with trying to get those links on an armor evasion base later

[fervent raptor]

Yeah colours correspond to the requirements of the item

So ar/ev is going to be Str/Dex and much more likely to roll red & green

3 blue is going to be awkward to do and probably take a bunch of chromes

[solar vigil]

i think there a few tricks that can help but i need

yaknow

stuff

to do that

[cosmic owl]

https://siveran.github.io/calc.html

[cosmic owl]

Easiest is to just buy them in bulk with chas orbs

[fervent raptor]

There's also the bench socket trick for 4s items

[solar vigil]

Yeah I’m gonna do that

[fervent raptor]

@jenny

wow discord

@grizzled hamlet are you about to help me with a minor boss kill?

[grizzled hamlet]

uhhh

depends?

[fervent raptor]

it's a uh... maven'd wisped Hydra with a small amount of +attack speed 👀

[grizzled hamlet]

nope

im barely in yellow maps

[fervent raptor]

oh no worries haha

eyy did it

rude

[fervent raptor]

10 harbingers per map is maybe a little too high

[fervent raptor]

there are vanishingly few of these on trade and I've no idea how to price it

there's only 1 other shaper wand with just one shaper mod and it's listed at 20d lmao

the cheapest recent hunter one is 3d

[pine wedge]

Oh wow

[fervent raptor]

I'm half tempted to just worb it myself tbh

ooh open suffix means I can just multimod, but also not completely terrible affixes otherwise

[fervent raptor]

Haha realised I fucked up and should have moved it onto an imbued base

Luckily realised that before I spent any currency on metacrafts

[grizzled hamlet]

res capped without purity of elements

slowly actually getting online

[solar vigil]

https://youtu.be/H9e370AqZVs?feature=shared&t=161 frogs!

[cosmic owl]

I am one fire resist off

Slowly finding the prismatic catalysts needed to fix that

My build is pretty much done, or at least each gear upgrade is now 10+ divine

Or otherwise insanely annoying

[cosmic owl]

Got absolutely ruined on the final step of crafting my gloves

They're fine enough, deleriums are too annoying to farm to get a better oll (and they're vacant on the trade site)

but getting that fire exposure roll took more than 100 ichor

[keen dagger]

cold damage to attacks

[cosmic owl]

t1 supress + life + res + 30% dot (delerium) gloves do not exist on the trade page

So I had to make them myself

But gave up on getting good dex rolls, or res, after 15 delerium

Getting too expensive there

[cosmic owl]

wow I just got fuuuucked by maven

run is good, happy with it, no deaths until final boss summons

And then I get the wolf dude who spews the massive pile of shadow wolves

But not solo, no

I get two copies of him

And they proces to stand on opposite sides of the arena and fire inwards, making no safe spot, and I die 4 times

[cosmic owl]

Got there! Swapped my flasks out and got her with 0 deaths that time

[cosmic owl]

rog <3

[fervent raptor]

Holy

I'm planning on blasting maps for necro crafting stuff

Want to make a tri ele bow

Got guild mates on a small private server doing gsf and they've got like, multiple triple T1 ele bows

[cosmic owl]

I lost a t1/t1/t2 to a misclick on rog

Was sad

But oh well, I'm getting about 3 div/day off incidental rog/tujen

[cosmic owl]

Well, more than 3 div on this, not that I have a clue how to actually price it

[fervent raptor]

Haha I had a Rog with triple T1 on a Thicket

Except the "Flaring" mod is Phys, not Fire 🙃

(by any other name, I know, but that one was just salt in the wound)

[fervent raptor]

[fervent raptor]

ez money

did a sirus

anything but massive is a major win 🙏

12 divines

[fervent raptor]

that's one way to do a challenge ig

[solar vigil]

Nice

[fervent raptor]

right, I need more dps to do pinnacles

[fervent raptor]

perfect a1 twink lvling combo

[frigid kernel]

i have a 90+% darkness enthroed ssf

damn

if i can get the right abyss jewels i can use that with another uni jewel i dropped for ailemt immuntiy

96%