ARPGs

[cosmic owl]

This and essences are already lot later in the game that torchlight and LE's crafting systems really kick in

If I can spam essences I'm past the point that I want to on-the-fly items

At level 20 I want to slap 2 mods onto an item and be happy for 5 levels

I want to pick up a weird unique, respec into it for cheap at clvl 30, and put + fire damage on a stick

[frigid kernel]

You can get that with alterations+regal and then bench

Before maps all you really need is res+life

And a weapon if you're leveling with an attack skill that scales with your weapon. If you need a weapon you can do the phys damage vendor recipe

You shouldn't be super invested in your gear that you'll replace relatively soon

[cosmic owl]

I agree, which is why the idea that these other games have of quick and easy item tweaking through the levelling process appeals

And I'd note that once again, if I'm spending regals I'm already past the relevant point of progression

[fervent raptor]

PoE definitely doesn't lend itself well to early game crafting ngl

Which is why most people's first build of the league is usually "this gives as little shits as possible about the items I equip"

[desert inlet]

https://youtu.be/zTgQu2y_HDk

[pine wedge]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/new-items-affixes-coming-to-last-epoch-february-21st/62446

[pine wedge]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-1-0-patch-notes/62536

[cosmic owl]

I see they also don't believe in visual clarity 😆

Looks interesting, very slow

[desert inlet]

clarity is for card gamers

we die in darkness

[cosmic owl]

I guess its got a bonfire system and not many lights, so its a soulslike

[desert inlet]

yeah I also put it in the souls channel

[cosmic owl]

Interesting that the boss seems to have the same order of HP as the dude fought earlier

[keen dagger]

im pretty hype

dont know anything about builds so im just gonna wing it

[cosmic owl]

General rule is don't skimp on bringing a defensive skill

Especially if its also an offensive skill

e.g. smoke cloud + the trait that increases damage while you're in it

[keen dagger]

no advice pls

i really wish to wing it

the respec system is pretty good in this game so I think it's a good one for fucking around and finding out

[cosmic owl]

It really is

[keen dagger]

only a few more hours

[ember nimbus]

Very excited for last epoch I played through some of it a LONG time ago forgot everything

[cosmic owl]

Still haven't worked out what I'm going to build

[cosmic owl]

Probably falconer

[pine wedge]

Looking around at builds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r58okyOaeo&t=20s

Wtf is this PoE level nonsense

[pine wedge]

UPDATE IS OUT

Last Epoch is officially RELEASED

Anyone patching their game and ready to go?

[keen dagger]

I work for the next 8 hours 😭

[fickle junco]

oh nice it's not a gigantic patch either, just 6.76 gb

[pine wedge]

Warning

Servers are dead

and dying

[ember nimbus]

It’s helldivers all over again

[grizzled hamlet]

the poe players logged in

[pine wedge]

[pine wedge]

This is a fucking hilarious node to imagine

[cosmic owl]

We're in!

Maybe

Loading screen is being very slow considering

[cosmic owl]

We are in fact not in

Managed to make a character, fight through first map, but disconnected on town entry

[keen dagger]

oh no

I was so excited

hope they can get some more stability in the next few hours

has already been 4 hours since launch though

[cosmic owl]

Its kinda to be expected

And hell, if blizzard can't make their launches stable, I'm not going to expect the same of a smaller studio

[cosmic owl]

If anyone would like to use my referral, it is kotarou_c

[keen dagger]

how do I use this

[cosmic owl]

Press H, then refer a friend tab

[keen dagger]

i showed u my orb pls respond

i like the new start area its got a lot more character than i recall

also the game takes forever to load but aside from that it was pretty stable for us

[cosmic owl]

I've had a few hiccups, but largely the same

[keen dagger]

im really enjoying the mage

giant death laser is so hella

[cosmic owl]

haha yea its cool

I'm on a weird falconer build, its just coming online ~50

[pine wedge]

Playing Blast Rain marksman

pretty fun tho mana cost is a bitch

[cosmic owl]

On Aerial Assault proccing umbral blades, shadow daggers

Its a fun build, although I'm squishy as hell and about to face logonn

[pine wedge]

Rogue levelling is just generally squishy tbh

all your passive tree defenses are dodge

which is great! ...until you fail a dodge roll and cease existing

tho you do tend to have fantastic health recovery

very fast attack speeds+flat health on hit is a strong combo

[cosmic owl]

haha yea

Anyhow first-cleared him without actually upgrading items

Turns out having a movement skill that loses 10% of its cooldown when you attack makes it easy to dodge everything

[frigid kernel]

.

[solar vigil]

Oh I didn’t see this thread

Been playing hexblast mines in POE

last epoch looks interesting but I’m on the fence about shelling out 40 bucks rn and going straight from Poe to last epoch

Falconer looks cool tho

I still wanna kill elder in Poe before I switch to ANOTHER arpg tho

I at least have a reason to give time for the last epoch servers to stabilize

[frigid kernel]

Every skill has its own skill tree, it's neat

I'm going to give warlock a try

But paladin also looks fun

[cosmic owl]

One thing to note: LE have very explicitly said they will always time their seasons to not mess with poe

Their idea is that a poe season starts, people play it, they get bored, LE season starts they play it, they get bored, poe season starts ->

[keen dagger]

makes sense

[solar vigil]

Yeah but that exact thing is what I wanna avoid for rn

I’d rather not burn out on arpgs

Oh uh, does last epoch have wasd movement

[prime spruce]

it does not

[solar vigil]

Ok

[solar vigil]

beat elder yaaaaay

[cosmic owl]

Fair. I think they're quite different games in a lot of ways: LE doesn't burn you out anywhere near as hard, by virtue of just having way less end-game

Last time I jammed ~100hours in to get two characters to the wall, then happily just stopped for a while

[solar vigil]

yeah i jsut wanna give some space for stuff other than arpgs and dota yakno

[cosmic owl]

By the wall, let me explain crafting a little bit.

Items have forging potential. You can spend that potential to modify an item.
Affixes range from tier 1 (weakest) to tier 7. Tier 5 is the highest that you can craft. Items tend to have 4.
Affix shards drop as items, or you can shatter an item to get some~all of its affixes as shardds.
Spend potential -> get affix on item, or upgrade it.

Thus, item building is fairly easy: find an item with a tier 6/7 (affixes of these tiers are called exalted) affix you like, and either none you dislike, or rng strip the bad ones.
(optional extra: lock a low tier affix to the item, allowing you to have 5)
Craft on 3 other affies you like.

Mid-late game simply is the process of getting double exalts instead of single on those items.

Uniques can spawn with "legendary potential".

If you craft a LP unique with an exalted item, a number of its affixs (1/2/3/4) get added to the unique.

This is the late late game: finding the correct unique with enough LP, then crafting something nice to slam on it

That last stage is the wall, and I really seriously cbf with it

[keen dagger]

is there any content you actually need that kinda gear to finish?

[cosmic owl]

hmmm

Definitely not the equivilant of maps, you can clear those on a potato

Maybe the 4th tier dungeon bosses (tiers = harder versions of same dungeons), now that dying resets boss fights

Some builds might need the big guns for that

[keen dagger]

ah thats fine then

[cosmic owl]

What I will say is that the LP system does do one super cool thing, and that is make early-game uniques quite interesting

Prism wraps for example are amazing early and amazing late for the correct build

And they are often dropped while levelling

[keen dagger]

Ah neat so it's not just late game unique that can get LP

[cosmic owl]

All can, and its easier to get more LP on lower-level items

[cosmic owl]

But, they're a component needed to make a type of build work (namely ones that lose life while casting elemental spells), and as a result, you kinda lose out on a bunch of nice stuff (LIFE)

So the way those builds progress is by mashing nice exalts/rares into their armour

[keen dagger]

I would like this item for my mage please

[cosmic owl]

My first character saw three before the end of story lol

[keen dagger]

even in last epoch I can't escape exalts

[cosmic owl]

My current LE character has seen.... fuck all

I'm solidly into maps and still seeing squat, even as part of the circle of fortune hahaha

[keen dagger]

I'm level 14

[cosmic owl]

haha

I hit 65 or so in the first day

But I've played the game before, so I knew my build and progression, as well as how to go fast

[keen dagger]

yeah I'm reading the dialogue lol

I played until the end of the open beta like a year ago so I remember dimly the last refuge stuff which seems much the same

and I remember you go to the imperial Era after that and you go to a magical time temple at one point but that's it

[flint cairn]

the one unique I really want to farm is for the primalist
I will become the storm polar bear

although after watching someone stream offline SSF falconer yesterday and today I also really want to try that out

[solar vigil]

ok hilarious to me that runemaster just lets you be invoker from DOTA

[solar vigil]

i wanna try to do a thrown build on falconer

ok im looking at the builder and uh

theres a lot here

might need some help lol

[grizzled hamlet]

theres a ton of poe content creators doing falconer builds

[solar vigil]

yeah but not much throwing stuff

bo's anarchy seems like a cool unique to build around

[cosmic owl]

I think falconer might be a little bit pushed

Have you seen how far aerial assault flies!!??

Also it has a lot of insane nodes: the + potion slots one for example is bonkers, as is falcon hits heal, falcon crits heal, falcon scales off dex, falcon scales off dex again, falcon hits reduce cd

[solar vigil]

https://youtu.be/2_OBXLOfHOA?feature=shared found one

[keen dagger]

lich is a lot of fun so far

big fan of having 2 health bars and Hella life drain

[cosmic owl]

lich is very cool

[keen dagger]

wandering spirits seems like it does a lot of damage but it's got the worse damage feedback of any skill I've ever used in a video game. I can't tell what it's killing until it's dead

hungering souls on the other hand is very satisfying to use

feels very strong with the double cast extra protectiles passives

[cosmic owl]

Currently trying out a scuffed aerial assault / dive bomb build

Where each resets the other's cooldown

[cosmic owl]

First off i have zero issue with anyone expressing themselves in any way. Freedom of though, deed and expression should and must be PARAMOUNT. However the Freedom of all of us who have no desire to play opposite gender characters should also be respected and for that reason i request that you guys make all classes available for both genders and to make it interesting even in alternate creative gender expressions.
Utterly unhinged forum posts lmao

[frigid kernel]

when a cis dude feels gender dysphoria for the first time from a video game lol

[cosmic owl]

hmmm, dive bomb is kinda hitting a damage wall

Aerial ASsault proccing shadow daggers is good as a primary source of damage, but management is getting irksome

Might just switch to cdr stack

[pine wedge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1208169395256430663/1210602917208264805/image0.gif?ex=65eb28d3&is=65d8b3d3&hm=a04f4df7d6cca262dd82d8fac30beccd0ec3ebfce9ba1d27f9b43b1ebfa02bcb&

[frigid kernel]

No login??

[flint cairn]

my first new last epoch character is one I have dubbed "arsonist falconer"

[keen dagger]

my buddy dropped this when we were playing together so now my mage has a prism wraps 😌

I picked runemage and its very fun to see the cool spells i apparently have happen

[cosmic owl]

neat!!

Wellllll

Thats what we in the buisness call sexy

Its a shite base annoyingly

[pine wedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/829444899346579537/1211131966771040257/image.png?ex=65ed158a&is=65daa08a&hm=f22962a4237bb1d9d8c1df907cb93a6e0c03f980bb81a27cde395415e59e39c7&

CHONK

[cosmic owl]

BIG BUNGUS GAMING

Nice

[keen dagger]

that's a lot of haich pee

[keen dagger]

made another alt as a falconer since i got the phys to freezing acid flask catalyst

the bird is quite strong huh

But I think falcon's wake (the passive that gives you a speed buff after you hit a marked target in the falconry tree) is bugged to not work, or at least it doesn't have an icon and i dont notice the speed

[cosmic owl]

Theres a few bugs in falconer atm

[keen dagger]

oh my god my falcon can drop acid flasks too

[cosmic owl]

yea, falcon can do a lot

umbral blades + aerial assault shadow dagger application is a looot of damage for example

[cosmic owl]

FINALLY ascended a cradle of the erased

Took ~35 attempts

[cosmic owl]

yolo'd a sanctum

Am very happy with the result

bad rolls and etc etc, but still

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/last-epoch-passes-path-of-exiles-all-time-player-count-on-steam-2553757/

Misleading since path has a standalone client, but still really happy for the last epoch guys, they deserve to be doing well tbh

[keen dagger]

oof the servers are completely dead today

[keen dagger]

this seems kind of busted

whenever you would get hit you get 300 ward and dodge that hit

every 10 seconds

doesnt scale well but

that's a lot of ward at level 35

[cosmic owl]

Its pretty good yea, but its not busted

Dodge is not amazing generally

[keen dagger]

You don't need to spec into dodge for this to work though!

Unless I'm misunderstanding this it just says "you dodge"

Which seems to be how it works in practice.

[cosmic owl]

yup, but in general the scary things in the games aren't his to be dodged

definitely not a bad thing to have while levellng, especially if your build uses a lot of aerial assault

This is the nuts defensive node though, imo

You can reach 100% glancing blow chance, for a permanent 35% damage reduction

[keen dagger]

maybe i should get a shield at some point

[cosmic owl]

I'm using cradle of the erased because its silly

It gives you stacks of a block buff that expire when you block

But I never block courtesy of deflect and weave

So its just a permanent bajillion defenses

[keen dagger]

this is why i love arpgs lol

[flint cairn]

I've been planning to use arrowguard for my quiver on arsonist falconer
even without a solid gear plan, if I haven't been hit I have 147% chance for a glancing blow, and if I have it's still 74%
and if I can somehow find that 26% block chance elsewhere it goes up to an actual permanent 100%

[keen dagger]

is this good

[cosmic owl]

The shield itself is for some builds, but your erased mods are a bit mid

Phys damage is nice, necro res is nice, healeing effectiveness is balls

Mine also kinda sucks

[keen dagger]

my friend said the sentinel can scale healing effectiveness to damage which seems nice

but otherwise that stat seems awful to be the one to get to t7

[keen dagger]

chapter 6 spoilers: ||does yulia thinking that you have the lance make more sense later? she doesn't seem to recognize you when you meet her in the imperial era the first time.||

[pine wedge]

Did some arena runs for Prophecies, and the rogue boss does something really clever. It throws down decoys which is like ??? until I realized that when you killed the decoy it drops runes and glyphs. The devs figured out how to implement a decoy on PCs: give the decoy loot

[cosmic owl]

yes

|| She's met you before, but you haven't met her yet: you interact with her later in ""your"" timeline ||

[cosmic owl]

I'm now in the odd spot of having most of my gear be solid exalts

Except for three janky rlvl 30 rares that just have the perfect spread of resists on them

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUAgYHhLMQ8

the poe players are truly at home

[hollow geyser]

Didn't Last Epoch have a bunch of veteran Path of Exile players on the dev team?

[keen dagger]

Multiple features in games are QOL features that people have made 3rd party tools for in PoE or that have been requested forever. the devs are all long time arpg nerds yup

[pine wedge]

The company was founded off a reddit post spitballing the ideal ARPG

Basically armchair devs put their money where their mouth was

[hollow geyser]

For those still on Grim Dawn they'll be dropping a Loyalist skin pack and minor QOL patch tomorrow:
https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/grim-dawn-loyalist-item-pack-iii-is-coming-february-27th/134456

[flint cairn]

took the time to put some actual gear and not a shopping list and I think I might have something here:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/EALeDZxQ

[cosmic owl]

Hoooo

T7 hybrid health is insane, and the mana roll is only t2 so I can seal it no problem

[keen dagger]

that is the hp belt

[cosmic owl]

Finally starting to get the good at 200 corruption

[pine wedge]

Nice!

Open affixes too

Love to see it

[cosmic owl]

Not sure precisely how good this is

But its nice to see 4 aligned mods on a nat drop

[keen dagger]

it looks fucking awesome

that's a sweet design

[cosmic owl]

ikr

[keen dagger]

found chimaera ring on my lich

I love when you find apropos uniques during gameplay

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MamkI1uDRrA

[keen dagger]

last epoch is so all over the place

you get these nifty painted cutscenes and then suddenly there's a weird janky 2000s rts style in-game cutscene and then a major character dies into a field of flowers and it looks amazing

you talk to a main character who has every line voiced by a professional actor then you talk to some random shopkeeper with one single line voiced by one of the developers or something

it's incredibly jarring sometimes

[cosmic owl]

yea

Its pretty clear that its a work in progress

Also, in an amazing bout of verisimilitude, every time I die to t4 chronomancer julra, I get disconnected from the game

It an annoying fight, I'm one HP roll off being able to survive one mistake

[keen dagger]

everything seems to be so easy compared to how people describe endgame

I just got to lagons isle which people are describing as a big difficulty bump and the games been kinda cake even though I'm sure my build is terrible

hoping lagon is as tough as people say

[cosmic owl]

Giving no spoilers, lagon is the first actual gear check in the game

[keen dagger]

that feels so late

I've kinda got the feeling that the people I've seen complaining in global chat about the fight have not specced into any resists or hp but I guess I'll find out

[cosmic owl]

mmm.

I'm not sure I'd agree with it being "late", just because the general approach of the genre tends to be that the story is straightforward in difficulty, and late-game is a different beast

PoE was abnormal for having huge spikes out of nowhere

But thats a lot due to its somewhat tortured long development, where like 4 different fights were the end of story over time

[cosmic owl]

Hm, it turns out you can jump up into a void meter as its falling

Lost 4 shades ripppp

[flint cairn]

haven't even finished my falconer and I've already put together a marksman build
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/bBGkk14B

the only abilities I actually cast are shift and explosive trap, with option of shuriken manually if I need to proc sapping strikes since it costs 0 with the scintillant steel node
casting shift drops a shadow where I started, then casts shuriken and shadow cascade where I end
shuriken has been modified into a lightning chakram, which has a default 36% damage bonus with +2 shurikens on cast and a 50% chance for another 48% depending on flip of a coin
shadow cascade has been modified with dagger dance and porcupine's wrath so it throws 7 daggers instead of doing a melee attack (with a good chance of also proccing shadow daggers), and it has a chance to create a shadow on kill to potentially make the combo stronger
then explosive trap has been modified to do lightning damage, I throw 3 traps into the air that explode once they hit the ground, and when they explode they also fire off detonating arrows
these detonating arrows guaranteed shock enemies, home slightly and arm faster, and also create lightning tendrils and will also shock enemies in their own right

[keen dagger]

isn't explosive trap a falconer skill

[flint cairn]

yep, I tossed 8 points into wilderness scout for some extra health and dodge rating

I try to keep rotations simple because I'm not that good, and explosive trap is the only ability I can find that auto-casts detonating arrow

[pine wedge]

The explosive trap part sounds close to your standard Blast Rain build.

[cosmic owl]

Using explosive trap to cast things is traditional

The hunt for @all continues

[keen dagger]

@all?

[cosmic owl]

ah sorry, old d2 habit. Resist all

[hollow geyser]

Wasn't @ the symbol for talking about inventory charms in D2?

[keen dagger]

resist all seems like it's weighted very low. good luck

[desert inlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q57GpuLJFCQ

arpg i'm actually interested in?!

[keen dagger]

he really loves shingles huh

big fan of video game roofs

fair though

[keen dagger]

Lagon was about as hard as I expected. I died when I got caught in the moon beam but otherwise it was fine. It did bug out the first time we tried it and our group got separated on and off the platform which was frustrating

lotta really heavy stuns

[cosmic owl]

It can take people a little while to learn the tells and behaviours of the beam

Did the shark get anyone? Thats often a silent killer

[keen dagger]

I think just moon beam moon blast and tidal waves. the shark just harrassed

[cosmic owl]

nice. My firsth death was to the shark way back when, I wasn't paying attention and the bleed got me hahaha

[flint cairn]

last epoch swarmblade question: do any of the swarmblade form abilities use other skill tree nodes? like how in werebear form roar uses your warcry nodes and werebear swipe uses normal swipe
I know there's a swarmblade node that makes it so your armblade uses serpent strike nodes, I just can't tell if there's any others

[keen dagger]

got it first try my second go round on the lich

2 health bars good but geez I really need to invest in rip blood mana generation

[keen dagger]

Falconer got it first try too. definitely a cool fight aside from the multi-player issues with the arena blocking phases

[fervent raptor]

how far in do you unlock class spec in LE?

[fierce gust]

Masteries get unlocked at the end of Act 2

[fervent raptor]

thats... a way aways, huh

[fierce gust]

Of nine total acts. Not that far in honestly. You are probably lvl 20 by that point

[fervent raptor]

yeah Im just already flagging haha

oh wait Im in A2, nvm thats doable

[solar vigil]

Do you loose xp for dying in LE?

Or get permanentley debuffed at certain points

Like in Poe

[fierce gust]

I'm not completely sure, but at least no debuffs or xp-loss mechanic in early to mid late game.
You lose some rewards when you die in a map/monolith for the first time (the activity after the campaign), but that's about it I think.

[pine wedge]

No permant debuffs and no exp loss on death

if you die in endgame you either lose the reward on the map AND have to redo it

Or if in a dungeon you lose the key and have to redo it

[keen dagger]

Soulfire Bastion's last level is 90. can I actually do it if I enter the dungeon at the first area's level?

[solar vigil]

oh ok

[pine wedge]

tbf, you don't have to redo the map

but it totally resets so if you really want a node behind it

you're doing an empty node

[solar vigil]

Im assuming it’s a lot harder to instadie though?

[pine wedge]

If you build good defensive layers

We were playing a marksman with capped resistances, crit immunity, permanent glancing blows, and just the general safety of being able to clear entire screens rapidly from range

[flint cairn]

silly idea I'm tooling around with in the LE build planner: cold-based swarmblade werebear swapfest
go swarmblade > use armblades and dive to build up locusts and maelstrom stacks > swarm strike + angered swarm to get a big locust swam and swap to werebear > rampage (with rampage also casting roar/warcry) and maul, also building up berserker stacks and more maelstrom stacks (probably also proccing power of the storm) > hardcast roar + swarm call for extra locusts and swap back to swarmblade

[cosmic owl]

As a general rule, t1/t2 of a dungeon are potatoes, you can do them 30+ levels under

t3 is the baseline, and you generally want to be vaguely on-level for it

t4 is where mechanics matter

T4 soulfire is generally fairly easy, its just full of annoying enemies, and you need to be able to manage the shield, but its not bad

T4 temporal sanctum on the other hand is full of really easy enemies and a boss who will bitchslap you

[cosmic owl]

A few bosses might insta-kill you, but generally insta deaths all come from mis-building

For example, puishing high corruption without any critical strike resistance

[keen dagger]

how do tiers increase? Is the first time you do them tier 1?

[solar vigil]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/chakram-falconer i found this chakram falconer build i like the vibe of, but im curious if it could be feasibly adapted to bo's anarchy/regular shurikens as opposed to fulgurite shard/chakram

[cosmic owl]

yea, first time is t1, etc etc

I think if you're high level on some of them you skip tiers

My falconeer didn't need to do soulfire t1 or temporal t1/t2 for example

[flint cairn]

I'd say fairly easily? you'd need to invest in scintillant steel to make up for the mana cost reduction, but there's also points to reallocate for that, and rearranging points further would also let you use charged steel and shuriken storm if you wanted to stay electric
then you'd likely need to invest in defenses in other parts of the build to make up for no shield

[cosmic owl]

No, this version can not. Older versions maybe, but the reason they went into falconeer specifically requires cradle of the erased (for 100% glancing blow chance, and some other defensive stuff)

If you're not using that shield, then you're changing a lot of nodes (30 in fact)

[solar vigil]

ok

[keen dagger]

cleared the campaign. Definitely seems unfinished?

excited to try out monoliths and get deeper into the prophecies though

[cosmic owl]

yup. grand arpg tradition that

[keen dagger]

hopefully it doesn't take as long as PoEs 10 acts did

though last epoch definitely seems like you've gotten further along

really just slaying Rahyeh and killing the emperor left id imagine. though the void creeping in early does complicate that

[cosmic owl]

A few busybodies left to catch too

I really hope we get a turbo-late game boss of one of the beasties you see flying through the end of time on occasion

[keen dagger]

I wanna kill that thing in the cave in the ruined era

that was a great setpiece

I really love how this game uses the backgrounds like that

[solar vigil]

Is there any way I could do a feasible build with Bo’s anarchy and falconer?

[pine wedge]

Lightning Chakrams maybe?

Remember Bo's being a decent leveling choice for that build

But you eventually replace it with two unique daggers

[cosmic owl]

LETools shows no guides for it, which makes sense as its a levelling item more than an end-game one.

I'm not sure you reach 100% phys to lightning without fulgurite shard?

[solar vigil]

Ah ok

[pine wedge]

Yeah, the endgame for the build I mentioned is two Fulgurite Shards

honestly all told it was a fairly simply build using Bladedancer to have a bunch of clones throwing chakrams

With Falconer's throwing synergies I figured there might be something in that tree worth it

[hollow geyser]

Does Last Epoch let you zoom the camera out further than Path of Exile? That's a large part of why I played a bunch of Grim Dawn

[keen dagger]

nope

[cosmic owl]

that being said, ranges and effects tend to be shorter than in poe, so its far less relevant

Shoutout to the notable exception of aerial assault, which seems to have no functional range limit and can send you zooming

[ember nimbus]

Builds for last epoch? I enjoy melee tank builds and am solo player 🧐

[cosmic owl]

Do you want a guide or just an idea?

My recommendation would probably be void knight

It can be built in quite a few ways, is generally forgiving, needs no specific uniques, and can be built to tank all but one boss (T4 Julra, but it survives most of her shite anyway)

[pine wedge]

Phox is playing LE and has a build guide

[ember nimbus]

So far not enjoying LE 😦

One of the plot dungeons doors wouldn’t open

Unfortunate

[pine wedge]

Wait, which dungeon?

None of the dungeons are need for campaign progression

[ember nimbus]

The first temple area after the fort in chapter 1

[pine wedge]

Oh that door. Idk then

[ember nimbus]

Sucks man I’ll try again tomorrow or this week

[flint cairn]

I think I might have a silly forge guard build?
with a 2-handed spear, lunge into a group of enemies for guaranteed ignite, a chance at frailty, and launching a javelin at enemies
the javelin gets thrown into the air, deals 250% damage when it lands and has guaranteed ignite, and plants a battle standard that lasts for 12 seconds, launches smite every (if my math is right) 0.32 seconds
warpath is free, does fire damage, launches smite every second, summons a forged weapon every few seconds (which give me ward on summon, hit in a huge area, and have an 80% chance to stun), and gives me some mana back every 3 seconds to offset smite
and smite does guaranteed ignite, can inflict spreading fire, give me bonus melee fire damage and attack and cast speed, and have a 30% chance to cleanse
this is entirely theorycrafting at this point, and it's not perma-warpath the way a void knight would do it, but being able to change things up with lunge sounds more interesting

[pine wedge]

Hey, if you get actual clear on a Forge Guard then all of a sudden the class is viable

[cosmic owl]

Might be a bit slow to get started on packs for clearing?

Damage seems like it'd be great once you're going

[flint cairn]

I originally wanted to do a forge guard warpath build that had it throwing out smite, forged weapons, and abyssal echoes, but getting the passives right to go full void damage felt weird, and even though you can make abyssal echoes fire element you can't get them on warpath without making warpath void damage

[ember nimbus]

Last epoch update I am now enjoying the game

[cosmic owl]

yay

[cosmic owl]

hmmmm

[keen dagger]

that's a lot of void damage

[keen dagger]

ooooh monoliths are fun

and they drop so much stuff

[ember nimbus]

Ok void damage is hot as hell 🥵 like lol get time rotten Bozo

[keen dagger]

looks like ur... out of time

[cosmic owl]

okay time for a respec

t7 ballistae roll lets fucking gooooo

[keen dagger]

big turrent

[cosmic owl]

BOOM BABY

[fervent raptor]

No escaping the Omni neck

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHVmIgfjsYo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dITvviAHerc

[solar vigil]

Woagh, they ||made the necropolis map into a league||

||strand league when||

[solar vigil]

||it adds strand but reeeeeeally long||

||path of desert bus||

[keen dagger]

my advent of the erased rolled movespeed!!! then dodge rating... then ||minion dodge rating||

[solar vigil]

Hmmmmmm…

[frigid kernel]

I can't believe kripp predicted this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDakxj0JOEQ&t=196s

[flint cairn]

doing more theorycrafting and it looks like melee arsonist falconer is way funnier than the bow version
why shoot a cloud of traps in the air that explode when they hit the ground when you can play catch with one with enemies until it explodes for massive damage then replaces itself with a new one that launches itself at the nearest enemy and also throws a fire flask

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3495541/page/1#p25262095

lets gooooo

[flint cairn]

on my journey to come up with at least one last epoch build per class, this time is spellblade!
main attack is firebrand, which at base gives you stacks of firebrand that increase the size and fire damage of your next firebrand. modified, those stacks give me attack speed/armor/fire resistance/9 ward per second and last 60% longer, and hits with firebrand have guaranteed ignite, a chance to proc spreading flames, and refresh all stacks
next is enchant weapon. efficacy makes it free, and kindling blade means that as long as I manually activate it once it will auto-activate every time the cooldown ends; I've also made it last 4 seconds longer so I only have 6 seconds of downtime on the active mode. I passively have a +25% chance to ignite on melee for the same increase in duration, which is doubled while active, and while active I also get attack speed and a cleanse plus elemental nova
elemental nova in turn is only specced into fire for consistency, and has 120% increased crit and armor shred chance, 250% increased range and +100% ignite duration on guaranteed ignite chance
then to round things out in a silly way for actual combat, frost claw. between spark of celerity and gift of winter it should be free or at least really cheap, specced into fire with 60% ignite chance, cleanses a random ailment, and auto-casts with a 30% chance on melee hit or 9% on getting hit
I also have flame ward as a panic button for extra ward and big retaliation and to buff flame aura which is mostly generated by my passives

[ember nimbus]

Last epoch folk what classes have you been enjoying?

[keen dagger]

so far I've enjoyed every class I've played but my favourites are beastmaster and runemaster. I've also played lich, and falconer. haven't played the Sentinel yet

[solar vigil]

Ok necropolis league could totally be ||a bullet heaven league (as in, vampire survivors, etc)||

[cosmic owl]

Falconeer is fun, and also a bit overtuned

[ember nimbus]

I hate fighting ||Lagon || in last epoch lol

Especially as a void knight no defense only attack

[cosmic owl]

As a general rule, damage in LE is easy to get

Its important to have multiple layers of defensive mitigation

Most people die to that because they wander in with uncapped resists and eat laser

My falconeer build for example has fully capped resists, 100% glancing blow chance, 100% crit avoid, ~60% dodge rate, 2.7k life and happily doesn't die even at 500+ corruption

I did lose a few tens of thousands of damage to do so though

[pine wedge]

Yeah, the biggest two for every build is cap resistances and crit immunity

[cosmic owl]

Followed by suck it up and die to dots because you forgot to compensate for them

[frigid kernel]

play the lich self poison skill like RF and die to your own dots

[cosmic owl]

Play wraithlord, fall asleep, and then die to a toxin spire

[grizzled hamlet]

apparently some streamers are getting hands on with path 2 on the 18th

get to play a few hours and record gameplay

and they can release it on the 21st after the livestream

[cosmic owl]

oooo

[prime spruce]

oooh indeed, that'll be fun to see

especially if they're just given free reign to do what they want during their demos

[grizzled hamlet]

apparently there is some review process of the footage but i dont imagine it will be too too curated?

[ember nimbus]

Path 2 I’m excited

[flint cairn]

next stop on the 1 build per class journey: acolyte lich
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ3X3P2o

main goal is to stay in reaper form as long as possible (there's a weird note with resistances here). so my health decays 40% slower than normal while in reaper form, I've split reap's and transplant's cooldowns, I have increased healing effectiveness and leech, and I have +3 armor and +1% necrotic and poison resistance (I've deliberately overcapped those two as a failsafe in case reaper form drops)
my main attack is rip blood, which is now free, does necrotic damage and gives global spell damage, have a guaranteed blood splatter, and with quenching/hematology/mana feast I'm getting 9 mana and checks notes over 168 health per blood orb (I'm planning on eulogy of blood, and I'm not sure if the bonus health applies after hematology's % increase or to the base health before hematology)
transplant does necrotic damage, fires off 3 casts of rip blood, does two explosions that creates pools of blood for slow and more healing, and gives me 3 seconds of haste and frenzy
wandering souls is now channeled (with an uncertain cost per second, thank you build planner), generates spirits at what should be about a 155% faster rate, and the spirits shred necrotic resistance and have a 90% chance for damned every second, plus give me ward and a chance at 12 mana when they expire
and then hungering souls is free, has an insta-kill threshold, can give ward on kill, has ~28% chance to autocast when hit, and I get more ward and double-cast chance on direct use

[cosmic owl]

Your single targets gonna suffer a bit

[flint cairn]

I don't really see where, any ideas for shoring it up?

[cosmic owl]

hmmm, not really sure

I think its just one of those things, that hungering souls builds do good into packs and then are a bit limper into bosses

Should be fine unless you'r pushing corruption tho

[cosmic owl]

Basically your problem is that you've got damage downtime

In monoliths thats fine cause you can use movement skills - just walk - but against bosses, not as much to do

Actually, I know what you do

you just build lowlife after a while

Using death seal & low life, you gain an absolute bajillion damage

[flint cairn]

I thought about that, but I'm not confident in my ability to stay alive through that, and that I'd constantly drop reaper form

[cosmic owl]

Fair

Its also a decent bit harder to gear lowlife

[flint cairn]

maybe volatile zombie? it can spec necrotic so it benefits from everything else
and it looks like a lot of my other options involve respeccing even more of the build for curses

[cosmic owl]

No harm in trying

I think your build will be fine though, my brain was in corruption-land

[fervent raptor]

In Path of Exile: Necropolis you can hold ctrl + left click or console equivalent to reapply socket and quality currencies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt53v563L6g

holy shit the QoL

In Path of Exile: Necropolis opening Breach Hands in the heat of battle just got easier! They now open when you walk over them!
https://youtu.be/chwpaX8YNkc

caster mastery nerf

Another quality of life improvement in Path of Exile: Necropolis is the ability to ctrl + shift + click a stackable item to move all copies of it in your inventory straight into a trade window.
https://youtu.be/mBiBSG_FINA

what is going on with ggg???

[pine wedge]

Breach Farming is back on the menu lets gooo

(We Breach Farmed in Ancestor and it was very fun but the hands got very old very quick)

[cosmic owl]

Its almost like a new competitor was released with a bunch of qol things in it

[fervent raptor]

Lmao

Certainly lit a fire

[cosmic owl]

And now GGG are revealing all the things they've had had in the "will work on this eventually" bin

LE is lacking in many areas, but the friction from starting to semi-endgame is non-existent compared to POE

So of course POE needs to do a lot of work - especially in trading - to eliminate friction

I guess I'll be playing necropolis league though

[fervent raptor]

P sure Breach can have all the automated tech in the world - not gonna make a difference if the chests don't spawn

[cosmic owl]

Breach needs to be less shit yea

[fervent raptor]

Although admittedly I haven't looked at it at all this league so maybe they made it kinda possibly a little bit not dogshit?

[cosmic owl]

Honestly I think they need to do more with the atlas to make the various old league's contents less.... randomly annoying

[fervent raptor]

I'm certainly interested to see what new trans gems there are and if any of the current ones get rebalanced at all

[pine wedge]

You need a fully invested Atlas and the Chayula Compasses

[fervent raptor]

Yeah fuck that

[pine wedge]

At which point it's pretty profitable if you have a fast enough build

Because speed is absolutely huge for doing it

[fervent raptor]

I do kinda chafe at the idea of needing full investment for something to be good, y'know?

[pine wedge]

Fair

[cosmic owl]

Thats soooo muuuuuch

[pine wedge]

Also the Breach Scarabs

yeah, it's not the best stratagy, but it's profitable and fun if you like breach gameplay (which we do)

[fervent raptor]

I would certainly like the floor to be higher with a lot of league mechanics

[cosmic owl]

Kinda the case with most poe end-game progression loops: pick a build, pick the league mechanic that it does well, become a machine that transforms entry materials off poe.trade into map rewards

[pine wedge]

Nothing like loading into an 8 mod map with 10 breaches

So many drops

Yeah, at the time our build wasn't the best (Impending Doom with middling levels of investment) as it was still a bit squish and a bit too slow

Then we had a Mageblood hit the floor

Turns out Mageblood is good

[fervent raptor]

Really? I'd not heard that

[pine wedge]

Yeah, total surprise. Real sleeper of a Unique

[cosmic owl]

I don't think I've ever dropped a mageblood

[fervent raptor]

I've dropped exactly one T0 unique

[cosmic owl]

I just could never be fucked putting the time or currency into the cards

[pine wedge]

The one thing Breach has over a lot of mechanics is enemy density.

[cosmic owl]

And the moderately exponential nature of leagues means that I kinda get bored playing solo when falling behind

[fervent raptor]

Morohi Erqui

Or however it's spelled

[pine wedge]

Which, when combined with 8 mods, means you actually have a decent chance for rare drops

We were averaging a Fortunate a map

[fervent raptor]

I think I baited myself when starting the last couple leagues in gsf

I'm just gonna start trade

With a clearer focus

[cosmic owl]

yea

I tend to do my own thing each league, and fuck around with whatever build seems neat

Which invariably means my builds aren't.... great

[flint cairn]

I really want to know what builds are taking the "elemental bees" prefix

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC0Q3QlGFr8

yooooooooooooooooooo

flask corruptions

its just +-10quality

booo

[flint cairn]

I want to know this even more now because this prefix is apparently mage-only and nothing else in mage's kit seems to do minion stuff

[solar vigil]

I think I’m pretty satisfied with my progress this league. Got to shaper, I don’t think I’m good enough to do Uber elder as I still die a bunch to shaper

My last goal is try and beat king in the mists but I doubt that’s gonna happen

[flint cairn]

on second look I think the bee thing might've been a bug in lastepochtools
but on the other hand, by speccing into cooldown recovery I apparently have 100% uptime on the active form of enchant weapon

[solar vigil]

realizing now i should have gotten awakened void manipulation support way sooner thats A LOT of xp to level it...

[fervent raptor]

yeah always get awakened supports as early as poss tbh

they're pretty much always better at base than a lvl 20 non-awakened iirc and you can immediately start lvling them

[flint cairn]

changed up my spellblade setup for lightning because I forgot to save the fire version and my pc restarted and it feels a little silly
primary attack is mana strike, which gives me either 36 or 43 mana depending on order of operations for modifiers, half of which gets converted to ward, attaches spark charges, and also does a free second mana arc as long as I have mana
enchant weapon is set up to be free, last 9 seconds for the active version, and autocast whenever the cooldown ends, and then I'm also trying for ~68% cooldown recovery on my gear to get the cooldown to also be ~9 seconds for constant uptime on the active mode. while active I get an initial cleanse, an extra 40% melee elemental damage on top of the normal buff, extra attack speed, a +50% chance to shock on hit, and I cast zap at nearby enemies every second
static gives me 5 charges when I get hit, 6 charges per melee hit on a small cooldown, +28% faster charge accumulation while moving, +2 shock stacks when I use discharge and enemies are shocked when they hit me if I have 80+ charges, 6% stun chance on discharge per charge, I get ward per charge with discharge but it has an 8 second cooldown, except the cooldown resets once I hit max charges
and then for the goofy goober combo: frost wall + lightning blast
frost wall does lightning damage, is bigger and lasts for about 8 seconds, deals more damage the longer it exists and refunds some of the mana cost when I reposition it, and the pylons autocast lightning blast for me
lightning blast has a chance to apply spark charges and will detonate existing ones for +120% damage, can give me lightning aegis, shocks and blinds enemies, and casts a spark nova on the first enemy hit

[cosmic owl]

Seems cool, and spark charges are definitely the way to go for damage

[keen dagger]

So I am levelling a beastmaster and found this amazing bug where if you level this passive the sabertooth just fucking GOES straight across the map through walls and shit in a direction that is NOT related to the direction you're jumping in.

[cosmic owl]

amazing

[keen dagger]

It isnt constant and Im wondering if it was just in the area i levelled up and allocated the passive in. but i got a video ill post in a sec

(so thank god the passive is usable because I need this lol)

[keen dagger]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sldnhzz6QzY05f_nfwAgdKLRUTM00hdG/view?usp=sharing

(just a video)

[ashen lotus]

What game is this?

[keen dagger]

Last Epoch

[ashen lotus]

Huh

Is the Beastmaster any fun or is it another one of those 'spend the endgame not playing the game' classes?

[cosmic owl]

You maul people with packs of squirrels

[ashen lotus]

Is that 'with' as in 'alongside' or 'with' as in 'you stand still and watch the squirrels do all the work'
Because the big issue I have with 'pet' classes in ARPGs is they're very often mutually exclusive with killing stuff yourself

[fervent raptor]

That's always going to be a sticking point with summoners

Balancing 'you' and 'your allies' is a nightmare unless you relegate one to having a token role in things

[ashen lotus]

Got it, and Last Epoch has that same problem?

I know it has the Falconer class, I'm wondering how that one works

[pine wedge]

From what we understand that's more necromancer. The Beastmaster supposedly wants to be on the frontline with their pack.

For Falconer, it depends on the build and your definition. Is using the Divebomb skill so your falcon lands on a bunch of dudes not doing anything or is it dealing damage? Is throwing a trap that spawns a Ballista that then wipes the screen with its death using a time bomb or have a minion due the killing?

At the very least the Falcon Punch build exists even if the item is rare.

[keen dagger]

It's a melee build with minions. Most of my damage is from swipe and my minions help increase it. My wolves shoot out wolves whenever I swipe and using companion abilities buffs my damage.

Falconer is not like a typical minion master build at all. you basically just use your bird as a weapon to blow shit up

[ashen lotus]

If you press a button mid-combat rather than spawn something and watch it wreck things, then it's doing something

[keen dagger]

I think you basically always want to have 1 or 2 active skills

Falconer is essentially 100% active skills. you're a minion flavored wizard blowing shit up. Beastmasters minion summons turn into active skills once you reach companion cap

[ashen lotus]

Oh nice!

That actually makes me more confident about both of these

[flint cairn]

yeah, I have a melee arsonist falconer setup in the works
one node causes the falcon to throw modified acid flasks for me every few seconds, but most of my damage is either making it use the active ability or me actually in melee throwing modified acid flasks every time I teleport and playing hot potato with enemies using an explosive trap until it blows up

[ashen lotus]

Man, I really need to get this then

[cosmic owl]

Falconeer is pretty active, the three most common builds are:

• dive bomb, which gets its damage and cooldown from you actively doing things (e.g. hitting stuff with movement skills, dropping smoke bombs, throwing traps and nets)
• explosive ballista, which gets its damage from you throwing traps that spinter intom more traps that summon ballistae, which explode if you have too many
• shador daggers, which gets all its damage from you using movement skills to juump people

[ashen lotus]

Issue is I have no idea which classes to pick

I typically am not a huge fan of Generic Fantasy but there's so much variety I'm sure I'll find something

I just don't know what

And the wiki is garbage and unhelpful

[flint cairn]

I don't know of anyone who uses the wiki, lastepochtools is my go-to for info and build inspiration

[cosmic owl]

The squirrel build I mentioned earlier has 2 summon skills, 1 buff, 1 "jump into the fray with while dual wielding" movement skill, and right click is all damage: you're in the fray with your dudes

[cosmic owl]

In general, lastepochtools is the gold standard

[ashen lotus]

Oh, nice!

[cosmic owl]

You can use maxroll.gg too, but 1) they are cunts and 2) stuff on its way less trustworthy

[ember nimbus]

I been going off vibes tbh

[ashen lotus]

Ahh, bows are the only range weapon, unfortunate.

[ember nimbus]

For my battle mage fire 🔥 damage and my hammer pal

[cosmic owl]

throwing builds are pretty viable

[flint cairn]

aren't wands also ranged?

[ashen lotus]

What's throwable?

[ember nimbus]

From my experience no

[ember nimbus]

Some skills are throwable attacks

[cosmic owl]

Throwing damage is an entire type, like melee damage, or bow damage.

There are hammer throwing skills (paladin), dagger throwing (rogue), javelin throwing (pally again), axe throwing, etc

[ashen lotus]

Paladin gets to chuck javelins? Huh.

[cosmic owl]

Well, I guess its more sential overall that does it

But I always associate it with paladin

Because its a super quick pally levelling build

[ashen lotus]

Oh my word
Am I seeing this right? Does every skill have its own levelling sub-tree?

[cosmic owl]

yes

[ember nimbus]

Paladin synergies well with throwing skills

[ember nimbus]

Oh yes some are better than others TBH but most are pretty good and have great build synergies

[ember nimbus]

I should say sentinel not the sub class lol 😆

[cosmic owl]

My first build was a shadow daggers + dive bomb falconer, which uses the movement skill where your bird picks you up and goes for a joyride to drop umbral blades. I then used smoke bomb + dive bomb for bosses, with each shadow in my smoke bomb summoning another falcon, so each cast fireds 4 falcons.

My current build is a rive paladin stacking attack speed, with cast on attack healing hands

I hit shit, and I heal, and then I speeced healing hands to also be an aoe smite

And every second attack vaccums the screen onto me

[flint cairn]

a nice thing from the skills page on lastepochtools: the "skill sources" tab will show you anything passive or active that modifies the skill, casts it for you, or is cast by it for you, as well as any uniques or gear affixes that deal with it
great for stringing a build together

[ashen lotus]

Uh-huh
I'm becoming more and more inclined towards Beastmaster

[cosmic owl]

Its not the fastest, but its absolutely fucking immortal

Its a cool class

The other build I'm aware of for it gets totems, does eathquakes, then the totems repeat the earthquakes

[ashen lotus]

Fun, but I'd much prefer bears, or any other myriad of animals they apparently get

Gaaaah, choice paralysis, why

[cosmic owl]

Its pretty quick to get a character to mastery

And you can respec everything except master choice

[ashen lotus]

Mastery being the subclass?

[cosmic owl]

Its quite common for people to start on one build thats easy to level and farm with, then transition into their proper build later

[cosmic owl]

yea

[ashen lotus]

Got it. still doesn't quite help my choice paralysis but it is nice

[flint cairn]

it also means you have time to experiment, respeccing skills just costs time spent levelling them back up

[ashen lotus]

Unlike Grim Dawn there isn't one huge standout class I really want to play (demolitionist)

Also, does the Falconer work with bows or is it better in melee?

[flint cairn]

both

[ashen lotus]

Oh nice

Also the falcon is actually summonable which I really like

I do wish there was more variety than just Bow and Bow accessories A crossbow? A Javelin? Anything?, but that's still nice

[cosmic owl]

Different builds. Bow, dual wielding and onehand + shield all viable

[ashen lotus]

Oh hell yeah!

[keen dagger]

Beat the lightless arbor for the first time. Nearly died to the first phase because the falling rocks are kinda hard to dodge when you can't see anything and the 2nd phase was annoying as a melee character, but not that bad once I figured out the dual laser has a dead zone on the other side of the heart.
Still don't really like that dungeon
but the reward room is sweet. I spent 400k gold lol

will have to try temp sanctum next. i really enjoyed soulfire when i did it

[keen dagger]

made my first temporal sanctum item! not a bad get from this though I was hoping for the exalted 50% crit avoid tbh

Not a huge fan of this dungeon either. Nagasa and Void are enemy sets I dont like playing but the boss at least was fun

[pine wedge]

Fantastic new community tool
https://www.pathofpathing.com/
It generates a route to get all notable atlas passives for a specific set of mechanics
it's not perfect, but it's super handy for figuring things out

[keen dagger]

good name too

[cosmic owl]

That reward room is kindsa addicting ngl

although I never get anything good haha

Dropped like 2mil in it last time for nada

[keen dagger]

nice to spend gold on something other than runes of shattering for once lol

btw @cosmic owl do you know if I have 1K HP and I suffer a 1K hit, will my endurance reduce the damage at all? Or is it only damage taken when you're already low.

[cosmic owl]

It'll affect the portion that would be dealt to you past your threshold

So a 20% threshold and 20% rate (the defaults) on a 1k hit, 1k life means you'll take 800 + (200 * 1-0.2) = 960 total

[keen dagger]

okay sweet that's what I was hoping when I started putting points into it

Beastmaster gets pretty nice and tanky with aspect of the boar and Endurance speccing

[cosmic owl]

Fun fact, if you can survive it, doing temporal sanctum lets you skip 3 or 4 chapters

[cosmic owl]

Funny outcome of which is my first lagonn fight being the monolith version

[idle mortar]

errr, last epoch question

what does it mean when my item icon seem to have two different rarity color?

[cosmic owl]

Those are "experimental" items, dropped by exiled mages.

What it means is that its a item of the original rarity (in your case yellow = non-exalted rare) with an experimental affix (the blue one about ward).

These affixes are special in that they can't be turned into shards, but you can seal the affix with a rune of research to free the slot and make a 5 affix item

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/experimental_items

[idle mortar]

i... will have to read up more stuff, i see

[flint cairn]

changed up my forge guard build because spin2win, while effective, was getting kind of boring?
main attack is now multistrike, speccing into both forge strike branches and also replacing the extra multistrike swords with casts of smite
on forge strike I've maxed out the extra chance and duration nodes and gone for the anvil transformation, plus bellows for better damage over time, lightspeed for cooldown recovery and attack speed for myself and my forged weapons, plus arcane welding so summoning a forged weapon gives me some ward
smite is just specced for ignite, global fire damage, increased attack/cast speed if I've hit someone with it recently, and a 30% chance to cleanse
I also have cleric's hammer on healing hands so every hit of multistrike casts it for free, I've specced it into seraph blade so it's a melee attack that still heals me, and I also took halted scourge and turn undead for some utility
and then I also took sigils of hope with a 6% chance to create a sigil on kill, soliloquy and divine flare for an explosion that also heals, faith so if I get chunked I consume the sigil to instead do a much bigger heal, and then renewed hope makes it so if either faith or divine flare procs I have a 40% chance to resummon the sigil. it also costs 50% less mana so it's less of a pain if I need to hardcast it
lunge isn't specialized but it's still on my bar in place of healing hands for a movement option

[keen dagger]

only took 71 levels but I finally capped my resists

[solar vigil]

It’s…. It’s necessary to cap all of those to not die in last epoch?

(Im coming from Poe)

At least your resistances don’t get permanently debuffed

I hope

[keen dagger]

enemies penetrate 1% resistance for every level the area has, this can make you take extra damage, so if you have 75% all resistance you are taking 0% increased damage in area level 75

[solar vigil]

Oh

That’s fun

So you need more like 100% all resists?

[keen dagger]

only for enemies who shred resists

it basically means areas higher than 75 start getting much deadlier

since you can't mitigate this effect by overcapping

But compared to PoE I find resists are a lot easier to get

You need what, (60+75)*3 in PoE. +30*3 if you want to blank eleweakness mod. Then another 60+75 for chaos So 405/495/630. Compared to 75*7=525 in LE, but resists on gear easily goes up to 55-60% rather than 45-50%, lots of gear has big resist implicits, and there's the coveted resist all affix to boot

It seems easier to max all resists in LE than max all including chaos in PoE

[solar vigil]

I see

But you don’t really need to do chaos res in Poe unless you’re doing specific stuff

[keen dagger]

You don't need to max it but you do still need to invest in it until it's around 0 to not get blooped on randomly which gets the total resists you need in path to pretty close to LE

[solar vigil]

Fair

[keen dagger]

like I maxed these resists in my latest upgrade cycle, but I also hit 100% crit chance (while I have my buffs up) in the same cycle

so I'm not sacrificing immensely to get it

[cosmic owl]

You really don't need to. Going from 75% res down to 0% res means you take 75% more damage, not 300% more as in poe

If you have enough other defensive layers, you don't need to bother capping anyway

[solar vigil]

Huh ok

[pine wedge]

The big one you need capped is Physical Res

just because literally everything does phys

If you do end up pushing high corruption empowered monos you'll want them all capped ofc, but there is more to your character than just straight gear (and gear implicits are cracked in LE). It's one of the two universal defensive layers everyone wants to end up running

The other is crit immunity.

[solar vigil]

Ok

What can you get crit immunity from

[pine wedge]

There are two stats: Crit Avoidance and Crit Damage Reduction. Capping either grants crit immunity. Crit Avoidance is easier to cap but Crit Damage Reduction is better when not capped.

There is also a super easy unique to farm that gives 100% crit avoidance that is pretty common to just slap on a character entering monos

[fervent raptor]

In Path of Exile: Necropolis, you can automate many Instant Skills and Warcries with two new Skills Gems, Automation and Call to Arms.

https://youtu.be/9XVD-bmMOjg

"We've removed the capacity to bind any instant skill to left click as a result"

Costing an extra gem slot and calling it QoL

[grizzled hamlet]

idk, this fucks

plus, this can support a whole set of links?

instead of just 1 skill

[keen dagger]

lol just don't let people bind anything except walk only to lmb if that's yer tack

[solar vigil]

I just realized that detonate mines gets affected by this

Good thing I played a hexblast mines build this league

[solar vigil]

From now on I think I’m gonna stick to builds with less uniques

Because my build had 3 (including one that didn’t give any resists) and it made it really tough to get capped resistances and cap spell suppression

[pine wedge]

Yeah, that's the issue with uniques. They're super handy and they're just grab and go

But they are missing so many core stats

[cosmic owl]

yea, in general you should plan to use uniques that are easy to find LP on and have really good core stats, supported by good exalteds

[fervent raptor]

Was that a LE or PoE comment?

[cosmic owl]

Peak of the mountain for example: trivial to farm in lightless arbour (hell, my level 68 pally is farming arbour t3 atm), 2LP is reasonably common, and its stats (+2-5 to all attributes, 240-290 increased crit chance) are really solid

oh lol

[fervent raptor]

Is suppression in LE?

[cosmic owl]

I assumed LE

but they're probably talking poe

[cosmic owl]

crit supression is, which is what I misread it as hahaha

[fervent raptor]

Ah fair haha

I wouldn't have thought capping res and suppression with 3 uniques is especially hard for right-side builds though?

[cosmic owl]

Well, % reduced bonus damage from critical strikes, and % crit avoidance, capping either of which gives crit immunity

[fervent raptor]

Depends on what slots the uniques take ig and how desperately you want to cap chaos res

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksJkJ-6mPow rip streamer killing corpse explode totem

[fervent raptor]

Please

I'm sure it'll still happen plenty

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ6MNd5zERQ

neat

is this new?

hehehe

[solar vigil]

@frigid kernel yeah i feel like i had good dps, probaby not enough defenses, and def a skill issue

i was simply. not good enough at the video game

i decided to try it since i had the fragments and the league is ending so

unrelated, i feel like standard is fine if you consider it effectively SSF

[frigid kernel]

I lost 3 portals leap slamming towards shaper and dying to balls lol

[solar vigil]

i got beeemd

like a lot

i think i mightve had a lag issue

i just need more practice with the bosses seperate tbh

i think hexblast is just naturally a bit squishy

my eyes are gonna be fucking opened if i play boneshatter lmao

i feel like ill be so much more tanky

[pine wedge]

Reminder!
Live stream at <t:1711051200:t> today!

[grizzled hamlet]

yeeeeee

hype

[grizzled hamlet]

stream live, starts <t:1711051200:R>

[pine wedge]

Starting!

https://www.twitch.tv/pathofexile

[frigid kernel]

inb4 its gonna be sim city

[grizzled hamlet]

ITS CHRIS WILSON FROM GRINDING GEAR GAME

oh damn simul launch on all platforms

neat

MOUNTS????

[frigid kernel]

mounted archery?

also she was sentenced to death

not exile smh

all shock 30%?

did that enemy just slam a giant stone coin on the ground

[ember nimbus]

Where’s the duelist

[grizzled hamlet]

harvest build a dungeon

got it

[frigid kernel]

MULTIPLE ATLAS TREE?

how nice

such a big qol if i can just hot swap no respec in ssf

is this going to add a new menu for every map? ouch

on no do we need to click a button to collect the corpses

[desert inlet]

your new league: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etPLaJWVPY4

[frigid kernel]

ashley are you watching this

do you see how many graves there are

this is like using a fucking 20 slot fossil resonator

[desert inlet]

yes i am watching with jenny

[grizzled hamlet]

this is gonna be so stupid

[desert inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-clever-ben-wyatt-gif-18793778

[frigid kernel]

LOL

"corpse metacrafting"

[desert inlet]

"it's about the cones"

[frigid kernel]

wtf was that tornado

[desert inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-taxes-calculating-math-work-gif-13531113

[grizzled hamlet]

modifier on jewel is random

[ember nimbus]

I stayed for POE 2 what’s the gimmick this league

[frigid kernel]

this is beastcrafting but more fucked up

[desert inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16737844

the gimmick

[ember nimbus]

Death 💀 got it

Time to get one shot

[grizzled hamlet]

WERE GETTING TATTOOS BACK??????

[pine wedge]

TATTOOS

WE BACK BABY

[frigid kernel]

TYATOOTOS BCK

holy shoit

holy shit

[pine wedge]

basic versions

[frigid kernel]

and new spectres?!

awesome

i hope we get dark marionette back

league on atlas?!?!

[pine wedge]

Atlas passives for the league

the hell

[grizzled hamlet]

wild

[pine wedge]

Tier 17 maps are being added proper?

[grizzled hamlet]

t17 maps lets gooo

spectres eating good?

these uniques are nutty

[frigid kernel]

i love this blight music

cant believe they are buffing the fragment stash tab

[grizzled hamlet]

LETS GO

[frigid kernel]

we are keeping stream of consiousness pog

[frigid kernel]

omens on ritual

[grizzled hamlet]

more transed gems

[frigid kernel]

we get a tornado spell

[grizzled hamlet]

we had a tornado

were just getting a trans tornado

[frigid kernel]

wait isnt summon holy relic the guardian notable

[pine wedge]

when will the trans agenda stop!?

[grizzled hamlet]

never

[frigid kernel]

"you have to identify corrupted and mirrored items" excuse me chris

[keen dagger]

lol

[frigid kernel]

the invitation thing is kinda sad because you cant reroll them with harvest

[grizzled hamlet]

yeah but it just gives you the one you need now

WORLD TURTLE HIDEOUT?

[frigid kernel]

yeah but if i get a bricked mod off an alch i have to use chaos and not juice

wow atuin hideout

[rustic grotto]

I wish I hadn't burned out so hard on PoE cause this sounds neato

[grizzled hamlet]

you can always skip a league and next league will have even more stuff!

[cosmic owl]

https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1770912388960616657 YO

Path of Exile (@pathofexile) on X

To solve a major problem with the complexity of the endgame we've removed some systems while keeping the good parts of them. The two main systems we've removed are Sextants and Master Missions. We've reworked scarabs to include many options these systems provided and many more.

Twitter · Mar 21, 2024, 8:36 PM

[frigid kernel]

yeah are you watching the stream

[grizzled hamlet]

ye ye

[cosmic owl]

@grizzled hamlet Everything else is cool, but this is what I've been looking for

Complexity reduction lets fucking goooo

[frigid kernel]

multiple atlas trees is so amazing

[grizzled hamlet]

im mega hype for endgame

[frigid kernel]

only needing to have essence on one atlas tree on ssf is so pog

"pack of brutuses"

"hasted brutuses"

[grizzled hamlet]

the three atlas slots are real neat

[frigid kernel]

imagine a fucking pack of hasted brutuses just fucking chain ganging you

[solar vigil]

i loved "OP MF STRAT"

[frigid kernel]

its like 5 pudges

[solar vigil]

at least these t17 maps dont send you to the void lmao

[pine wedge]

https://youtu.be/QLFeErq1vEI?si=p9IoQmo85QF4jj2L

For those who missed something or want to go back through

[rustic grotto]

Wish you didn't have to do the entire campaign every time

[solar vigil]

although now its bugging me that uber elder is called that but its not an uber boss

i kinda wish the community just called it its own thing

[frigid kernel]

it's clearly called "the memory of the elder in the shaper's realm"

[grizzled hamlet]

its uber elder cause it existed before uber bosses were an official mechanic

[frigid kernel]

we should just say it that

[solar vigil]

and i kinda wish there was an ACTUAL uber elder where you fight just elder but powered up

[solar vigil]

yeah

[grizzled hamlet]

so you had shaper and elder and then true elder
that was uber elder
cause we had atziri and harder atziri that was uber atziri

and then they added a new tier of uber bosses

so were stuck with uber uber elder

[solar vigil]

yeah

which is just silly

fuck it im just gonna call it "duo" or something

[frigid kernel]

the regular elder basically doesn't even have any attacks

[solar vigil]

yeah.... they need to update it imo

[frigid kernel]

theres that one command grab thing but i dont think it ever kills you

[solar vigil]

wait

[frigid kernel]

yeah its one more

[solar vigil]

are we getting ACTUAL uber elder??

that second one on the bottom...

[frigid kernel]

tbh this is a pretty chill league just to play standard potentially in ssf

[solar vigil]

cos its shaper, eater, exarch, sirus, ???, duo (?), maven

[frigid kernel]

i think its cortex, eater, exarch, sirus, uber elder, shaper, maven

uber elder and shaper used the same keystone

i think

[solar vigil]

yeah i consider standard to effectively be ssf anways

[frigid kernel]

no i mean standard ssf

[solar vigil]

cortex?

[frigid kernel]

it's the synth one

pinnacle synth boss

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Cortex

[solar vigil]

ah ok

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPCndDfrxQM

[solar vigil]

sadge beta got dealyed but oh well

i just wanna see the monk acendancies

[frigid kernel]

late is for a little while suck is forever -gaben

[solar vigil]

can you just… not do the lantern if you dont want to?

[grizzled hamlet]

we dont know?

theres a lantern button so maybe?

[frigid kernel]

it looks like lantern is in every map on the map device

[solar vigil]

there may be a button to turn it on or off?

[frigid kernel]

they mentioned a keystone that makes you not have to do it?

https://www.pathofexile.com/necropolis

tornado totems?!

[grizzled hamlet]

lol

[grizzled hamlet]

review after 4 hours of hands on

[solar vigil]

Ok is the only way to get transfigured gems through lab?

[frigid kernel]

probably, but patch notes might have a new thing

[grizzled hamlet]

well see

i expect them to stay in lab

cause its THE reason to do lab right now outside of ascendancy

[pine wedge]

It's the only reason to be a lab runner rn

[frigid kernel]

enchantments were so bad

lab enchants were so terrible

[solar vigil]

Ah yeah that fragment is Uber duo

So yeah I guess we’re getting like… Uber cortex ?

[frigid kernel]

uber cortex already exists on the atlas

[solar vigil]

I never really interacted with the synthesis stuff so

Ah

[frigid kernel]

i think it's because the uber elder has the sam name as the shaper fight

[solar vigil]

They just split Uber shaper and Uber duo into two seperate keys

[frigid kernel]

yeah

[solar vigil]

Ok

[frigid kernel]

they have the same abscence name

value and meaning i think

no thats elder

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Cosmic_Wounds

[grizzled hamlet]

god, my mind is buzzing about the endgame changes ~w~

im so hype for this league

[frigid kernel]

its one keystone for both

[solar vigil]

Funny to me that to get to thier regular fights you have to gather the fragments or do eldritch maps or witness bosses but for the Ubers you just

[grizzled hamlet]

will probably still league start icicle mines again

[solar vigil]

Do the t17 maps

[grizzled hamlet]

but i kinda wanna do a wander

[solar vigil]

Which don’t get me wrong I bet they’ll be HARD

But it feels a lot more streamlined once you can do the t17 maps ig

[frigid kernel]

im gonna leaguestart tornado totems heiro

and then reroll bleed bow glad when it bricks

and if i dont like having to channel snipe puncture for 1.5s then i'll go bonezone glad

[solar vigil]

Still frost blades or boneshatter for me although we gotta see the patch notes

[frigid kernel]

i hightly suggest bonezone jugg for you punch

its so comfy

"poe2 which does have pausing"

poe1 has pausing for ultimatum

[solar vigil]

so it seems like flasks dont regenerate charges in poe 2...

you have to go back to town to click on a well

really dont like that

[solar vigil]

wdym by wander

[grizzled hamlet]

a wand attack character!

[solar vigil]

ah i see

just using the basic attack for wands?

[grizzled hamlet]

nah theres a bunch of wand attack skills

[cosmic owl]

Fuck that movement is clean

The ranger phase in phase out dodge is sexy

[solar vigil]

i was thinking that they are probably gonna do a pet ascendancy for ranger but a mount is REALLY cool

[cosmic owl]

I get the feeling +move speed is going to be THE stat

Holy shit thoguh this boos fight looks incredible

[solar vigil]

wandering path is gone?

i didnt take it since it felt too weird

but

wow

[frigid kernel]

wow he added the atlas loadouts because he couldnt bulk buy unmakings

that so funny

[solar vigil]

f rucksack

[solar vigil]

oh an attack skill you can use with a wand and not a spell?

[grizzled hamlet]

ye!

[cosmic owl]

oh my god the toitoi field

[solar vigil]

i see

[solar vigil]

toitoi?

[cosmic owl]

https://youtu.be/wPCndDfrxQM?t=890

[frigid kernel]

i cant wait for pob to update and i can figure out a tornado character

[solar vigil]

ah

[cosmic owl]

This stuff is called toioi, its a nativ NZ plant

[frigid kernel]

i wonder if i can get poison tornadoes to work

[cosmic owl]

And a fairly core part of many kiwi childhoods, as it grows on sand dunes and makes good swords

[solar vigil]

well.. i may try something else this league now that the beta is delayed

[cosmic owl]

Also the leafy bits of it are known as cutty grass

[solar vigil]

cos what i wanted to do was play melee in poe 1 this league and see how it compared to melee on monk in the beta

[cosmic owl]

Cause they're sharp af

[solar vigil]

so im undecided, we gotta see the patch notes

ill probably do a build from a vid that ziz puts out since he seems to be a good resource on making builds for newer players

but my goal this league is beat duo

so i gotta get good at elder and shaper

i dont wanna just blow up the bosses instantly and i dont want to just be able to tank everything so i can yaknow... learn

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-rHD7e2DmY

[cosmic owl]

Pretty sure I'm 100% playing sorc for poe2

[solar vigil]

also i gotta freind yall on poe

and. ssf seems fun but i dont know all the crafting tricks and im still new so

def not this league

this league looks sick as hell though

[cosmic owl]

Necropolis starts on the 29th yea?

[solar vigil]

Ye

[cosmic owl]

hmmm

Gotta get a build

And I guess my rive pally in LE might not hit end-state

Gear checklist

• actually find a + attack speed eagle wing
• find an exalted + attunement or + health chest on the 700 armour + amour applies to dots base
• find a +4 healing hands helm, and slam it into face of the mountain
• actually succeed at slamming + healing into a siphon of anguish
• succeed in slamming t5 or greater life loss / ward gain into attack speed gloves
• actually find any peneration / healing idols (0 of 3 currently)

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLx0WfLh718

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3496784

[solar vigil]

oh BIG change: The fifth slot in the Map Device is now unlocked upon completing a non-Valdo's Tier 17 Map.

good honestly

Voidstones each now provide "Tier 16 Maps dropped in Areas have 0.5% chance to become a Tier 17 Map for each Socketed Voidstone".

ah

[grizzled hamlet]

oh fuck ye

[solar vigil]

so you cant get t17s naturally

[grizzled hamlet]

you need voidstones

which you get somewhat naturally at least 2 of

[solar vigil]

yeah

but its only 1% chance per t16 map drop

that's pretty rare

[grizzled hamlet]

yeah 2% with all voidstones which isnt hard to do in trade cause you can get a carry for the other two

[solar vigil]

fair

i was about to say thats rarer than the guardian map drops but its any t16 map not just from a map boss so

[grizzled hamlet]

yeah

[cosmic owl]

Alternate-art Unique Items can now be converted to account-bound microtransactions using the new "/convertracereward" chat command. The item will be destroyed, and you will be granted an account-bound microtransaction that changes the appearance of an item of the same type to match that of the destroyed item.

[solar vigil]

srs nerf

[solar vigil]

i was a bit worried about flooding with t17 maps before i saw how you actually get them, this is a cool way to do it

so theyre basically like uber guardian maps

t17 maps have huge potential to bring back old league bosses

but. i def want them to rework elder and give us an actual uber elder fight now that they can easily do that with this new framework

[cosmic owl]

Not quite the right base, but we're finally getting there

[solar vigil]

Does the 3.24 patch with the changes hit before the league starts or

[pine wedge]

Jousis was at the PoE2 capture event and lost most of his footage because he broke the game and GGG asked him not to release footage of the exploit lmao

[pine wedge]

The patch and league start are always simultaneous.

When the servers come up is when the league starts

[solar vigil]

ok

[solar vigil]

lmao

[pine wedge]

the man can't be stopped

[solar vigil]

MINES ARE SAVED POG

[cosmic owl]

Not sure what to start with for necropolis

Whats good these days?

[fervent raptor]

Penance Brand (assuming patch notes didn't obliterate it)

[pine wedge]

They over halved it

And starting with a transfigured gem is iffy imo

[fervent raptor]

I meant ordinary penance

Both transfigs were good too and they only touched dissipation

And honestly dissipation was OG LC levels of balanced ngl

[frigid kernel]

build or atlas?

the league mechanic is all about crafting and the essence atlas nodes look a lot worse for ssf so i'm going to spec hard into expedition and the league mechanic after i get my basic map sustian atlas setup

https://poeplanner.com/a/hM8 so something like this for white maps ssf

[solar vigil]

Wait huh

How do they already have the 3.24 atlas tree here?

It’s been less than 24 hours

[frigid kernel]

https://poeplanner.com/a/hMF then i will do this for yellow maps. block reasons- abyss: im not gonna use a stygian vise or abyss jewel for a while, ultimatum: the trialmaster is rude also i dont find the mechanic fun or rewarding. i can get catalysts from heist/delve/expedition/

[frigid kernel]

idk exactly, but they normally do get this

[solar vigil]

ah, nice

i wonder how fast pob updates

also, are you doing ssf?

[frigid kernel]

yes

these atlases are for ssf gaming

i used to spec hard into essence in ssf and use those to craft but im gonna try having rog from expedition and the league mechanic to get me items

[solar vigil]

nice