Undertale and Deltarune

[ripe harbor]

I also saw "Your controller will break. A father figure will give you a new one." again the other day.

he can't keep getting away with it

[minor merlin]

https://youtu.be/QOgnsJAEV7w

[ripe harbor]

https://www.tumblr.com/forestsarespooky/793886151252541440?source=share

PLAY DELTARUNE CHAPTER 3

-# ↩ 👤

i'd hit tenna with my car if you onow what imean

birch tree that glows in the presence of double entendre:grows dimmer

-# ↪...

Tumblr · Sep 5, 2025, 9:47 PM

[ripe harbor]

this one keeps getting me because of how committed they were setting it in Mancountry. they're all green for an amazing reason.

[low surge]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=--BsQh2LzlE&ra=m

[ripe harbor]

Oh I was just thinking about the Black Knife / Shard the other day

mostly about how it 'strikes at the weakness of Dark-Type enemies'

& what that might imply. Hope they talk about it.

[ripe harbor]

it kinda tickles me that for all the color memes & greenster and all,

that if you actually think Spamton meaningfully reflects the 'copy' thing that he. He actually is White for an amazing reason.

Written as a Little White Guy. For themes and such.

[zenith iron]

go white boy go

[low surge]

Not so much, more about the nature of the black shard and the knight itself

I thought it was pretty interesting

Explaining potentially why Asgore may have one

[restive comet]

https://youtu.be/7J1oJB5ebdY?si=KdGcHwYweypOf6_m

[low surge]

This video jumpscared me because the save file said Robin and I was like

[low surge]

spamton cake

im tempted to make it taste awful but also i worked too hard on this for my miis to hate it

ungrateful bastards didnt even like it

[rain lotus]

tastes like . . . bepis

[sacred wigeon]

Freedom flavor...

[ripe harbor]

tastes like fresh- mmm. tastes likes fresh, wow, fresh.

https://tenor.com/view/spamton-nutrinose-spamton-value-network-deltarune-breastfeeding-gif-26813272

[rain lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/spamton-deltarune-true-true-reaction-funny-gif-3968263345554334992

[lusty cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_VViYjPvNU

[astral quiver]

is that the Yama

hot damn it is

[lusty cypress]

Yes she's hot

[rose swallow]

i don't think the "the forgotten man will be a secret boss" theory holds water, but the part about the egg rooms being out of order is very compelling

[sacred wigeon]

this theory actually reminded me of a cool song I saw on youtube a fair while ago
coincidentally it is a theme for the forgotten man as a boss fight!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsJJ3eOzrTw

pretty schneat

[ripe harbor]

I like seeing the ways people title their fan tracks, theres some fun ones

[analog hemlock]

Unsure if it's already been thought of before, but if Carol is aware of what she is doing with the Roaring (big if), do you think it's gonna be a kinda "leopards eating faces" situation

like "yeah sure the Titans will awaken and scour the world, but I'll get what I want out of the deal"

later "oh no! the unthinking manifestations of fear have no sense of loyalty, and I am but another target of their destruction! who could have foreseen this???"

[sacred wigeon]

i've always had the thought that if she's aware of what the Roaring will cause, that she genuinely just... doesn't care for what happens beyond potentially getting Dess back, I think. In my opinion alone i think it's just an incredibly shortsighted, incredibly long shot in which she doesn't care about the context, just that she can get her daughter back at all.

of course that still leaves room for the aforementioned character development though, so idk i'm kinda saying nothing

[restive comet]

Honestly, I do like the idea of The Forgotten Man being a mentor boss for Kris if Ralsei is getting one too

[sacred wigeon]

yeah!!!!

i really enjoy the idea

even if it's kind of ludicrous of a thought that it would happen right now, I'm all for it if it does

[low surge]

It’s a pretty interesting theory, I do think that save slots will be in some way important as a mechanic for manipulating the game. Device Theory posits such and it makes sense to me

[ripe harbor]

Recently was giving a lowdown on some of of the general motifs for someone unfamiliar with DR, got me thinking about 'Synthesis' as a future song title again

and that was actually something I was considering that I hadn't before

Synthesis as 'Light + Dark' was where I went to first... maybe two entities coming together (Kris + The Soul? Noelle + The Soul? Something Something: The Angel?)

but

chapter 4, and it's Dark -> Second -> Third Sanctuary? Kind of a Synthesis. Kinda Synthesis-coded.

Maybe the save files will end up doing something like Third Sanctuary, where they gotta all mix together & blend to reach something new?

also after reading some people stances on the WR and how they don't think it can break the prophecy because it would 'reward' doing the bad stuff. And thinking about if the finished game of DR is going to expect a WR playthrough save-file gimmick to reach at least some content.

[low surge]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l8awme-xooY&

[low surge]

https://tenor.com/view/here-it-comes-tornado-meme-gif-23054073

[ripe harbor]

Can any meaningful conclusions be drawn from this brackish soup of ideas and imagery?
t. Gaster

[rain lotus]

if i got called gastercoded i'd disappear

[ripe harbor]

Gaster-coded? He sure did....

[minor merlin]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gaster-disappear--k01KRVN5GWGRBFR1CSF5ZFGBZSZ

[rain lotus]

gastercore because interactions with me are rare and spontaneous

that's a lie. i don't know when to quit

[ripe harbor]

neither does Gaster! you have so much in common

[rain lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-roblox-fall-wing-gaster-deltarune-gif-15898505197153900453

[ripe harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-undertale-deltarune-67-6-gif-2273533785464561257

[ruby garnet]

https://bsky.app/profile/acenth.bsky.social/post/3lsw24gxnt223

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[low surge]

Kris has a swag I wish I could emulate

[low surge]

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-undertale-deltarune-wd-gaster-67-gif-13153421611299844966

[rain lotus]

Favorites Theory

[strange cloud]

Hey chat

Anyone want early Andrew Cunningham?

https://tenor.com/view/residentevil-merchant-gif-6214633

[low surge]

I can see it, I’m still a “Asriel won’t be a twink but will be built like a brick shithouse fat fucking chud like his old man” truther

[low surge]

wym

[strange cloud]

Check DMs

[minor merlin]

who is milk looker and are they related to milk freak

[lusty cypress]

Fem asriel being a brick shithouse

[astral quiver]

Toriel is also built

shes like as big as Asgore

[low surge]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-possible-it's-very-possible-perhaps-googas-gif-12644615660336645261

[ripe harbor]

hey, hey, hey: there's a third path
"Just saying ominous nonsense (Themes & Such powered)"

honestly though it edges into the former pretty often. But is more likely to be cooking!

do I want to just directly say to someone "Yeah so basically the way the Saves & Dark Worlds work is about the same, making 'memories' into a living reflection (colored)"? yeah. But idk maybe it's not like that & also people ask about textual backing (||<- as they should. As they should.||)

[ripe harbor]

I guess there's no proof that Chapter 2's Milk Looker is the same character as Chapter 4's Milk Freak.... perhaps they are merely twins....

[minor merlin]

a groundbreaking revelation

[ripe harbor]

I think that's called 'The Angel's Heaven'?

[ripe harbor]

real for this btw

[low surge]

I love this image so much

[low surge]

Awesome queer people, evil and pixelated Spamton

[ripe harbor]

its kinda an awesome way to present theories I gotta say

[minor merlin]

is 5' 8" including or not including her horns

[ripe harbor]

gotta be horns I think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMpRxbQS6Q0

this was the video

its interesting because even though these fans aren't really

fw me

I actually do think this is a good angle

Like yeah there's a lot of Shadow-Mirror stuff going on there. Whoever is speaking in the mirror is a sort of mirror-Kris, probably. ||I just think it's also still ||

I mean closer to my read than most for this bit, honestly

they did get him...

they lightly bring up the idea that the 'Red Soul' is it's own character & not just a meta element and lowkey I save space for that. I consider it.

maybe not 'character' but until I got an idea on whats up with the intro & the Angel & Kris, idk. It can be a meta element and also some Bullshit™, who knows?

"The Soul is The Angel but the Player Isn't" is a reasonable enough stance. It's workable, at least.

[ripe harbor]

the rabbit thing is genuinely lost in the sauce though

if it's a shitpost its a really good one though

[ripe harbor]

At least in the same way that Gaster's computer stuff doesn't mean he's also not In The Dark.

You're the Red Soul, but also. Why are you the only thing that can close Dark Fountains shown yet. What does that mean / Why can you do that.

regardless of what the answers are on any side, I've got "What is 's relationship to The Angel?" locked and loaded

thats an interesting one even without knowing what I'm even asking

[low surge]

Real btw

[low surge]

I still definitely have my gripes with PlayerAngel and will cope with any evidence against it

[ripe harbor]

I just genuinely don't have a confident answer on the Angel, and just kinda shrug. It's like Ralsei's Object to me, if a little more well defined.

Even if the Player is 'The Angel' I'm kinda interested in what that would mean? Or how that would play into the implication this isn't the first 'Deltarune'?

[sacred wigeon]

eyes /curious
I've always been a "the angel will probably change identity based on route / ending" person tbh

I enjoy every interpretation quite a lot I can't pick favorites lol

[ripe harbor]

and anywhere there's an ambiguous entity involved in DR I do go "We MUST confront the possibility of "

[ripe harbor]

I could sorta see it. I was thinking of it too recently, since you can read that for the heroes.

If the Vessel can be Kris, or 'The Girl' can change, why not the Angel?

[low surge]

Up there with whatever bullshit Sans has going on

[desert raven]

That cat is like Gaster 2: Kitty Boogaloo
I hate it
I love it

[ripe harbor]

Its like a Gaster that actually does show up, it's funny

[desert raven]

Everywhere there’s a big mystery that cat is somehow connected

[sacred wigeon]

Gaster showing up in-world would be peak comedy I think but also very scary simultaneously

[ripe harbor]

personally, I think it's Noise. Like in Deltarune as a song ||or signal||, it's noise.

[sacred wigeon]

Us, who knows what he is

The protags who do not...

[low surge]

Disappointed Andrew Cunningham didn’t bring up waves/noise clearly he is a bald hack fraud

[ripe harbor]

This is also sort of why I was thinking of it in context of the Angel

because if you have that tri-diagram

[sacred wigeon]

Nodders

[ripe harbor]

the trinity one with Gaster, Noelle, & the Soul all being the Angel

well

there is something that connects those three, kinda

there is an elephant

[sacred wigeon]

Address it /silly

[sour mesa]

announcing my next video bald theory

[desert raven]

Weird meta nonsense?
Oh yeah the cat

[low surge]

My new OC baldly

Berdlys bald twin brother

[sacred wigeon]

Can't believe this
Berdly's secret cousin Baldly

[ripe harbor]

Honestly I don't even buy the meta angle much for it, frankly. Oh you mean connecting, yeah.

Its weirdly tied to Noelle, definitely tied to Gaster (Element 6 is Cat), and like. Maaaaybe closer to the Soul than most characters?

depends on how you interpret Chapter 2 & 3's Shadow Crystal bosses, I think.

[ripe harbor]

Pluckly. Peeled....

Noelle cast ShaveGrave

[sacred wigeon]

NAUR...

[desert raven]

Honestly, the SOUL seems more connected to Holy/Light/Elec/Thunder than to Puppet/Cat

[sacred wigeon]

SnowShave...

[ripe harbor]

probably. Though the latter (even if it's name is something else) seems to be an element of 'Connection'? Or reflections, in general?

[sacred wigeon]

was gonna note this yeah
The only real kind of magic I think the soul is using is explicitly Holy / Light it seems like to me
Correct me if I'm forgetful but I don't remember it using actual spells beyond that

[ripe harbor]

Which is Gaster's whole tie to the Soul

[sacred wigeon]

Like, literally the Soul's whole gimmick is that it is the tool to banish the fountains via light

[low surge]

Rather than a coma, Berdly comes into school the next day looking chopped as fuck and everyone makes fun of him more than usual

[sacred wigeon]

LMFAO

Absolute cinema

[ripe harbor]

I'd be making fun of him too, why is he going to School on a Saturday

[sacred wigeon]

Truth....

[desert raven]

I mean, why are Susie and Kris going to school on Saturday

[ripe harbor]

That the Fountains are also 'Holy' as well is another weird thing with the Soul

[desert raven]

maybe Berdly has a secret alliance with Ralsei

[ripe harbor]

If the Soul is Holy / Electric... the Fountains probably are as well? The Titans might be Holy/Dark?

[sacred wigeon]

Yeagh true...

[ripe harbor]

Why are you so similar to the Fountains, why do they react to your presence & glow stronger colors when you get close.

[sacred wigeon]

Ough wait i didn't even think about typing... rah I am working on a homebrew deltarune ttrpg system and I love assigning its elements to shit

[sacred wigeon]

This! Was thinking abt it as well also why is the fountain shiny only when the soul gets close...

[desert raven]

The SOUL and the Fountains both allow people to enter a less real world
People in our world use the SOUL to enter the Light World, and the Fountains allow you to enter the Dark World

[ripe harbor]

Roaring Knight fight has the fountain start glowing more intensely saturated colors as the fight goes on- that's weird! That's weird even if the Soul is the Player & the Player is The Angel, because its very directly in the setting

In a fully meta read it's questionable the Light World would count as more real than the Dark, tbh.

[desert raven]

I knew about the depths texture in the Knight battle, but didn’t know about the Fountain

[ripe harbor]

Technically, when they clash, the dark wins without your explicit involvement.

might be the base state of everything is an endless sea of black chaos

[desert raven]

That is what a screen without power looks like….

[sacred wigeon]

I enjoy the layered fiction thought, though I also do agree that the two worlds seem equally "real" in their setting... Even the real prophecy states that there are worlds in plural, hrm...

[ripe harbor]

true! And there could be a pun on the computer screen as the firmament- that seems like a sort of meta-play I'd expect from UT/DR

[sacred wigeon]

I suppose the two ideas do have room to coexist of course

[ripe harbor]

It's a 'Liquid Crystal Display', maybe?

Dark / Star?

you power it with electricity, and that's why it's Holy/Electric?

If the only elements that ever get actual support can be applied to computer parts & more code-y stuff happens in the plot going forward, I'll probably revisit this.

[ripe harbor]

heres a comparison of how it looks right at the start & near the end

increases pretty slowly & a lot is going on, I honestly didn't notice at first either

[sacred wigeon]

Ou... I didn't notice either that's rad

[ripe harbor]

I want to say broadly something something "Memories turn colorless from grief" something "Fountains bringing color = bringing life" 🤷‍♂️

like when Darkners lose color they freeze up as statues

not sure why this one glows with the knight- maybe something about black as a mix of all colors (all outcomes, all information?) so the longer you survive

the more of an outlier this fight is?

The colors separating because the whole situation is a divergence too

🤷‍♂️

If you got any ideas throw them at me

This is all low confidence just throwing answers at the wall

[ripe harbor]

this is super 'Just Saying Shit'. It's really just taking the glass part of the Dark to it's conclusion and then adding it to the meta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66WESZQRaGo

there are enough screens & glass involved that you could argue for it though

Spamton looking towards 'The Heavens' in cut dialogue and having a sprite that occasionally turns the PoV, the screen.

The way characters like Queen or Spamton Neo are shaded as if the perspective is a light source.

Screens could be a big deal in the game's language, I'd buy it.

[ripe harbor]

I gotta block out time to watch this tomorrow, I want to see whats been cooked.

'bitter rain', and 'jagged edges' from something fuzzy got me 👀

I want to hear some shit about Crying & Wormwood & how the Knight is all sharp compared to the Spawn

[ripe harbor]

this thing too.

Though getting too hung up on individual visual details is the path to Milk Freak theorizing. That's why I get all my takes from esoteric dreams & staring into static until it starts to cohere.

[minor merlin]

Don Quixote from Limbus Company and Papyrus have moved in together on my tomodachi life island

[ripe harbor]

Love Wins..?

That's a high energy household

[minor merlin]

No, they're just friends

[minor merlin]

Two knights... and they're roommates...

[ripe harbor]

Blood & Bone

[minor merlin]

Okay hold on Knights of Blood & Bone would go crazy as a group name for the two of them

[ripe harbor]

the title being so metal makes it funnier its those two lol

[minor merlin]

Exactly

[ripe harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcMHOj3a6X4

holy peak?

[low surge]

Scout how much longer until I can psyop you into making a comprehensive Waves/Noise/Information theory so I can brag to my friends that I know the hottest new theorist

[amber jolt]

hmmm

hmm

[rain lotus]

following the negative space theme i think any gaster reveal comes the same way everything else has been being revealed lately

you don't get dess but you see the shape of her in noelle and kris and their families

then again you could probably argue we got the gaster reveal under that

i think just showing either in the way some people really want to see kind of ruins the message of grieving that gets no closure though

which is kind of the only theme i'm really holding on to

it's very strong, almost the theme it seems like the game is built around

t. griever that got closure and is still fucked up

dess and gaster rhyme so much i think just showing him would be like if the eclipse happened and femto just went for takesies backsies after guts became the black swordsman or something lol. just like, an attempt to reverse the trauma you wrote into these characters and your world basically. gaster's tragic because the guy is "gone" gone in a way people/the game itself can't just acknowledge

i dunno if thats selfish

anyway thats my five minutes of non irony posting

[strange cloud]

Yah I do think it’s important for any player Angel theory (which I do personally lean towards) to recognize that if this isn’t the first Deltarune, all previous Deltarune’s must’ve been done without us

Since well, we didn’t play them

The player is a canon, diegetic part of Deltarune

So if we didn’t play something, then whatever happened didn’t involve us

[ripe harbor]

I've been thinking about how most of the Angels (Angel Doll, Titan, Neo-Machine) shown aren't just faceless, but also buried / underground.

Even Noelle's angel costume is shoved very far back in a closet, its own sort of buried.

I don't have a conclusion for that, I've just been going "hmmmmm", and wondering if that's going to apply to the Angel, and what it could even mean.

so far, Angels are costumes, or mindless, or quiet machines. They don't have faces, they don't have their own will. Is that gonna apply to whatever happens with the Angel?

It might almost loop back into 'vessels' as a whole.

[desert raven]

I’m more worried about what it means for Rudy
He’s got an angel doll in his hospital room

[strange cloud]

That’s probably about his relationship to Noelle

[desert raven]

If angels are usually buried then that’s another death flag

[strange cloud]

The other big Angel related character

[ripe harbor]

I could definitely see this for Dess btw. If she never got a canon design beyond the silhouette from the flashbacks I could be down with that.

[ripe harbor]

^ & also a good early way to introduce Dess for people talking to all the side characters

and I don't even see the Angel takes people put forward as necessarily mutually exclusive

[lusty cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJQDC0Hngcw

[ripe harbor]

in UT Asriel does Some Bullshit™ at the end, maybe the angel situation is complicated.

Angel Situation is Crazy

[strange cloud]

If I’m the Angel, and she’s the Angel, and he’s the Angel, then who’s heaven is it?

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-disappear-gasterpeared-undertale-gif-23212822

[ripe harbor]

|| : "Meow"||

[strange cloud]

NO

THAT LITTLE FUCK

CANNOT HAVE EVERYTHING

KILL THAT CAT

[ripe harbor]

the fact that so many vessels & stuff are specifically 'faceless'...

[rain lotus]

yeah same, same reluctance from The Actual Game to show her

[ripe harbor]

beyond the Player-Gaster-Noelle angel trifecta, I make a little space for 'something else' & then just gesture vaguely at Link's Awakening Wind Fish or Mother 3's Dark Dragon.

[rain lotus]

because of how much she parallels gaster in my mind anyway. and also because i think the game has grief about gaster. sorry i have weird theories

the way noelle wasn't able to spell "december" consciously

[ripe harbor]

no that's good- I'm liking it

[inland hare]

Friendheaven

[rain lotus]

the way the games crash when you type "gaster"

i dunno

[inland hare]

Oh yeah

That’s actually a fascinating line of thought

[ripe harbor]

I think the ice (and color?) stuff is broadly about grief, life losing its color after loss

Turning stone inside -> turning stone outside

[strange cloud]

Why does this emote remind me of NES Godzilla?

[ripe harbor]

Applying that fully to Gaster is super interesting

[inland hare]

I mean Gaster followers are all grayscale too

Literally having lost their colors

[ripe harbor]

Even before chapter 3 I was sorta thinking them being greyscale & Darkners turning grey was the same thing

[strange cloud]

I mean I do think it’s important that Goners from what we know, never had colors to begin with

They’re copies

[ripe harbor]

definitely even moreso now

[strange cloud]

And copies are greyscale

[inland hare]

True

[strange cloud]

They only have color when someone else gives it to them

[ripe harbor]

I would apply this to Darkners & Dark Fountains as well, because Fountains are depicted very actively in how they hold up Dark Worlds.

They have to be flowing, they have to be pumping out color. Otherwise everything is ice and grey.

[inland hare]

It kinda feels like the fountains are actually pillars

It actually does turn into a pillar when true darkness emerges

[ripe harbor]

I actually watched a friend finally finish Chapter 2 this weekend. And I swear I never noticed how many pillars Queen's Mansion had until now.

[inland hare]

A pillar made out of a titan

[rain lotus]

they both have a similar sort of crypticism too / addendum thought: undertale established the Game can be something of a character itself too

[ripe harbor]

& waking it up shakes the pillar loose, and causes everything to collapse.

[rain lotus]

the gachapon is like. i don't know. it feels like both tragedies colliding for a moment maybe, the game expressing itself with Kris in the same moment or something

[ripe harbor]

Dark Fountains as 'sleeping' Titans

[rain lotus]

it's so weird and surreal/almost OOC except not at all but it's a detour anyway

[ripe harbor]

makes the whole of the Dark World their dreams, in a way

[inland hare]

Yeah

Azatoth waking up

[ripe harbor]

The end of chapter 4 is almost like giving them a nightmare

The dream's ending because it got too scary & painful for the Titan, and it's waking up.

[ripe harbor]

^ this again

If there is one specific dreamer for the entirety of Deltarune, or one super deep-sleeper who's causing the Dark to grow, under the town? I think it could be 'The Angel'.

or at least like, a faceless angel. The biggest pillar?

I don't have any real evidence for this or even believe it over other options. It's really just my free-space for 'Who Angel?'

speaking of grief,

https://www.tumblr.com/vaugely10/786469217629356032/the-distance-between-two?source=share

vague drawings

the distance between two

-# #hope these jumbled thoughts are coherent #the sheet music is the right hand of glowing snow in case anybody was wondering.... #noelle holiday #kris dreemurr #deltarune #deltarune spoilers #< not really?? but i did base this off of mostly chapter 4 stuff so.. #vagueart #comic

Tumblr · Jun 16, 2025, 12:58 AM

[rain lotus]

me in ten years still thinking about the gachapon thing. such a visceral and abrupt thing that doesn't really say anything yet

peak cryptic bullshit

genuinely intense vibe that implies it's probably important

[ripe harbor]

there could be anything inside an orb, until you pop it open

in this way, a capsule is exactly like an egg

[rain lotus]

you reach for it. it slips through. and you can't see yourself anymore. like that alone is kind of like

damn

i've BEEN there

[ripe harbor]

my favorite detail is how there's no edges on the floor

you can walk anywhere no problem, just immediately makes the whole thing feel surreal and almost fake

[rain lotus]

that threw me for a loop LOL

i was doing that scene with my partner and they said "oh you don't have to follow the lines"

[ripe harbor]

but fake in a way that makes you feel more fake for being there? If that makes sense?

[rain lotus]

EXACT words by the way

i told them "fuck you" because that was the only thing i could come up with when i was just running around in the scene after speechless

[ripe harbor]

I got baited into doing this scene the first time I used the machine by a friend & missed out on anything else from the gacha my blind playthrough lmao

They were going "You should put in important numbers. Important 4-space numbers."

[rain lotus]

i told them "you don't have to follow the lines" is one of the most hard things they've ever said to me

LOL

[ripe harbor]

Ominous, though

you wouldn't want to get lost

[rain lotus]

LITERALLY

[rain lotus]

i have a bad habit of not doing these things blind and still getting blindsided by them i told them "hey this reddit post said to put these numbers in for a dream sequence" and i was still like 😶

i think it was probably the music at first

since i didn't read the sweepstakes stuff

and it's a really fucked (positive) rendition of that motif

one of the few things i learned how to hammer out on a virtual piano though

(long after i played)

it's (lost girl) a nice simple tune, getting your fingers to hit the keys on a shitty computer keyboard is the hard part but once you get it you can just hammer it out

[analog hemlock]

Oh boy, my favorite show is on again!

ScoutxD ↩️

[Reply to:](#1159883117448929316 message) https://www.tumblr.com/vaugely10/786469217629356032/the-distance-between-two?source=share 📎

[low surge]

Then who’s driving this chariot?

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-undertale-deltarune-chapter2-chapter2-kris-get-the-banana-gif-23225451

[scarlet wadi]

https://bsky.app/profile/applestab.bsky.social/post/3mm7w3i4gac26

apple 🍎 (@applestab.bsky.social)

finished working on paintings for school, so i'm back to my bullshit #deltarune #utdr #noelleholiday

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[low surge]

A baby

[low surge]

(@fungoamungo)

[rain lotus]

gastergreendark

[low surge]

Absolute banger of a chapter 2 analysis and its themes of love and relationships but it’s on Twitter

[rain lotus]

my sister g ave me this thing

little did i know

it has fucking

12 foot long arms and legs ???

i can't even take a picture of it??? because it covers so much of my room t hat i'd have to illuminate my gross ass cockroach living space?

those paws are like 1/4th of the story

dude i got fucking Foe

[rain lotus]

this thing is staring at me from across the room i'm not complaining because i needed more fucked up plushies but this t hing would be a fucked up darkner

i don't have a shelf to put it on i guess it's a pillow now

[ripe harbor]

"We have at home:"

[rain lotus]

i'm still reeling

i picked it up and just kept picking it up

this is a toby fox bit

Goddamn thing

i swear i'm not this tall

it's this thing that's tall

ok i'm kind of tall. but this thing is taller

[ripe harbor]

do NOT leave this thing in a dark room. or sleep in the same room as it.

it's got tendrils 😨

[clear frost]

ah

[ripe harbor]

Ramb is also this

never belonged

literally 'point'-less existence

[inland hare]

Nobody mourned him after he died

The world was better without him in it

[ripe harbor]

was listening to these remixes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIuJSrABJOg

but this || fight||? I'm digging it a bit.

||the multiple voices / being like a dump of data is an underused element for it ime||

||While the screen floats around or occasionally hard DCs & you have to sonar ping to 're-establish connection'. The yapper.||

probably something it'll actually do, imo

babble

[ripe harbor]

Ultimately, Deltarune is kinda ||about|| Trash.

[ripe harbor]

For all it's called the 'Freedom' motif the first part of that line always gets kinda shelved. Kinda plays into the lightning / storm stuff, or the sound stuff- the air crackles.

It's crackling. This sorta fits that vibe to me.

||I was talking about this elsewhere but I think the common Fanon of Friend speaking "LIKE THIS" and using prophecy titles instead of names is funny when some of the most likely times it's speaking in game it does the opposite for both, lol. No hate, either, it's legit just funny.||

[amber jolt]

👼🏽

.🔺 🔻 🔺.

hmm that doesnt look right

[clear frost]

🔴
🔺🔺
🔻

[rain lotus]

ooooohhh story of undertale

[clear frost]

i will be opening two dark fountains in the same place because of this comment

[rain lotus]

is that why they did that

[clear frost]

mayhaps

[sacred wigeon]

can't believe the roaring knight hates music

/silly

[ripe harbor]

sometimes when I let the thoughts wander I look at this

and go 'Could be a face?' and then I Don't Think More On That

ok maybe a little more. But after that I stop.

^ Don't Forget...

[wheat adder]

Pink and yellow spotted

[ripe harbor]

true...

really its just the subtractives & green. which are actually everywhere, all the time.

DR did get me to actually start noticing them, though. My Color Theory Insight rises...

in the context of Deltarune probably the most interesting one is that the Fun Gang + Noelle have those as their colors? Its the colors of the squad.

Less 'This references The Fun Gang' and more 'The Fun Gang's colors are based on this common four color suite'

probably why Ralsei's green? If I had to guess?

Pink + Yellow + Cyan + Green. Complimentary.

[rain lotus]

this shit happened to me playing ocarina of time

[rain lotus]

when you put it like that it makes me think of color t heory

me when i hear theory

oh you a lready made that bit

LOL

[ripe harbor]

yeah once you 'see'-MYK, you notice it everywhere.

|| ||

[ripe harbor]

its fucked up because I actually wasn't doing this for years after chapter 2, shaking my head when people would go 'DELTARUNE?!?' for anything pink and yellow. But then I went diving into CYMK stuff for the cat and now I can't not notice when they're used, lmao.

just idly watching indie animations and my brain noting "Subtractives here to represent artificiality, here because it's divorced from reality, here because they are unnatural sci-fi colors..."

is this how artists were always seeing things. thats crazy.

[rain lotus]

LOL

i think if yellow is noelle you can probably stretch the shape of CMYK around something

[ripe harbor]

she is in the UI

[rain lotus]

yeah

intersection of kris + noelle being green makes sense in a weird way

[ripe harbor]

I think it's probably something like this

[rain lotus]

bruh that's perfect

[ripe harbor]

something photography or print-related, the Dark Worlds as a sort of photo-negative

• this loops in the monochromatic stuff, a lot of image production splits luminance from chrominance before recombining them. When only the luminance is recorded, you get greyscale.

🩶 <- copies, 🩷 💛 <- cats, 🩵 <- Uh... 💻 🐒 🤔 I dunno....

You can actually read into Greenster, if you buy that, a bit in support of this

only Holy/Electric damage enemy in the game spits out Blue/Red attacks. Red-Blue-Green: those are the additive primaries.

RBG = The Light, CYMK = The Dark? Sure, I'd believe it.

Actually a really common visual shorthand for fantasy worlds. Alice in Wonderland does it, Kirby, Hazbin Hotel Season 2 was full of cyans & pinks,

Which makes sense, pink & yellow are literally opposing colors to green & blue.

If you take a normal looking meadow and color-invert it, you'd end up with like

some sort of field of pink & gold, or something

[ripe harbor]

also why it's used for magic. Feels out of this world.

[ripe harbor]

ultimately though, its all just a bunch of little circles

[rain lotus]

i'd say its super of the world

which makes sense in OOT since it's like, power, wisdom, courage

[ripe harbor]

well, "Beyond the Normal" might be better then

[minor merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCBOr0mPdyQ

[low surge]

(@tac_bats)

[low surge]

(@senenby)

[low surge]

I choose to believe Sans turned around during the eggs husband scene because he was fighting for his life not to laugh

[ripe harbor]

https://www.tumblr.com/deltaruneposts/817154764258377728?source=share

Daily Deltarune

Starting in Chapter 4, Susie no longer smiles when she's near the shelter in Hometown.

-# #Deltarune #Deltarune Chapter 4 #Susie

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her smile and optimism: GONE

[ripe harbor]

https://kenomacreature.tumblr.com/post/811530603618025472/deltarune-meta-memories-made-in-grey

baldur

DELTARUNE META: MEMORIES MADE IN GREY

Chapter 3 is odd. Conceived and teased ahead of release as a breaktime chapter of fun and frivolity, light on story and drama, this presentation conceals the fact that it contains more strange and inscrutable details than perhaps any other chapter in the game, not to mention the most elaborate installments to date of the Shadow Crystal Quest and Egg Hunt, and is only more dissonant for its constant assurances that nothing is wrong and everything is normal.

It is a pretty banal observation at this point to say that Chapter 3's strange atmosphere and structure is a reflection of Kris's inner thoughts - their memories, interests, fears. But perhaps the most disquieting element of Kris's TV World is the way in which immanent features of DELTARUNE - the story, world, and game - repeatedly manifest as structural motifs of this synecdochical Dark World. What's more, concentrated within it are more allusions to the enigmatic, demiurgic _Gaster_​-shaped figure at the core of everything than in per...

Tumblr · Mar 19, 2026, 3:58 PM

Uhhhhh Banger alert?!?

[ripe harbor]

Co-signed on nearly every involved point

[strange cloud]

Seeing Baldur in the wild is crazy

[ripe harbor]

idk who this is but I think they're my spirit twin, at least on this post

[strange cloud]

Lore pit regular

[ripe harbor]

I love to see an interpretation that not only matches stuff I'd say, but uses reasoning like "This is a narrative, what's the narrative thrust of these bits?" instead of Friend Inside Me

Kris is weirdly tied to knock-offs and copies, and that's the same thing that got me to more seriously consider that they themselves were the vessel

not from esoteric twitter posts or fanon, but from stuff in the game!

[ripe harbor]

They were reposted by some fanartists I was scrolling the backlogs of lmao

also anyone talking about the photographs of a representation of the light world -> a sea of static and 0s is doing ok in my book. I think about that moment so often compared to how often I see people talk about it.

It's the visual representation of Kris tracing over a drawing in the art therapy room, to me.

like that's it. That's 'Deltarune'.

or at least The Roaring.

its all just balls and nothing #mynothing

The whole chapter the camera shows you the 'real' versions of the objects, it reveals 'the truth', and then primes you for that last puzzle.

That's the truth. That's the underlying reality.

It could be that Ramb simply misrepresented the game to Kris, or it could be that the “someone” who Kris feels backstage with them (the same someone possessing the Mantle and in all likelihood the same person as dropped the pink-and-yellow Odd Controller you need to play the game) made their own adjustments to the structure of the original game, like Tenna.

El gato diabólico...

And the Seven Flying Aces that have set up shop in his Mancountry? There are actually only six of them.

ah fuck putting it like this right next to the "This dude is Gaster" line, this is totally also Deltarune, right?

6 out of 7 chapters in Lord of the Hammer?

He's not got the complete set

[low surge]

I am a fan of the joke going around that Holiday is Carol’s last name and she made Rudy take it when they got married lol

Rudy Navidad (I prefer Natal because Brazilian Rudy is my personal headcanon)

[low surge]

You can even keep the joke that he has a brother named Felix because Portuguese uses feliz as well

[ripe harbor]

you might expect me, as a 'second voice is the MANTLE speaker' person to be against this, but I actually wholeheartedly agree with the questioning of fanon consensus- shit is Mysterious.

as I see it, these are the broad options:

• There are two speakers, but there's no surprise. There isn't an 'interruption', they're working together. Regardless of who the second voice is (Kris, Carol, The Knight, 'Eram') they are aligned with & working to the ends of Gaster, even if they don't know it.

• There are two speakers, but Gaster experiences issues. There is an interruption, and the first speaker is either unable-to communicate this (limited bandwidth, perhaps), not particularly willing to communicate this (alien mentality), or outright doesn't realize there was an interruption, in a manner analogous to Seam knowing when you meet The Knight / Gerson, but not who took the Shadow Mantle. Or to Noelle not remembering her eggs name- really, to the Forgotten Man segments seemingly being 'unremembered' in general. Gaster forgor theory.

• There's one speaker, it's Gaster. Not really much to say here, he'd change his speaking style mid-sentence though, and the implications of that might be wonky? Or perhaps you could say it's the narrator or a non-specific character, or literally just a dream sequence Kris / The Soul has, and doesn't reflect any events that 'really' occurred

and, the last one, which I don't believe over the other options but probably should be considered,

• There's one speaker, it isn't Gaster. This isn't to say that the voice isn't Gaster's, but that the part we hear is more of an echo than something the man himself is saying. No real direct evidence for this, feels like it would be controversial in the fandom, but wouldn't be out of the blue for the story: Spamton speaks in UNUSED's voice, the Sound of Justice only appears to be Gerson on first brush due to copying his shape, maybe the Knight... but it's very speculative.

you could also rope in the last one two under 'Fragment of Gaster that's gotten all Fucked Up' since him being shattered is one of the few details on him. Same sort of question to how much of the Knight is December Holiday, with the same sort of answer.

Though it could also be something like " is pretending to be Gaster". Which I assume would be.... probably an unpopular read lmao.

I lean towards the second, I think there are two speakers but the second is self-obscuring.

Without a doubt that is Gaster's voice

and I prefer to think of him as having agency & character through that voice, rather than assigning it to another character.

but, I don't know. Some sort of disguise stuff could be going on.

somewhere.

Gaster managing the Save Files would make him a sort of 'savior'

and this is altered from the usual biblical quote, which says the devil takes the form of an angel of light, so there's a bit more emphasis on savior. But that's supplementary- the game stuff takes priority.

IsuggestFriend: "I have an alternative hypothetical to suggest-"

[ripe harbor]

• Nobody said anything ever, Gaster's not real, <DELTARUNE> just did all that on it's own

Toby Fox was an 11 year long sociological experiment conducted by Harvard University. The study is now complete, thank you for your time.

[strange cloud]

Admittedly I’m doubtful about that second one just because like, Gaster does respond to us specifically

Like, the things we tell him and respond with

It’s not all prerecorded, it’s a call and response

[ripe harbor]

mhm

I'm gesturing more to his really weird speaking style

he responds to you but I'm not entirely sure he can communicate super well

either for 'connection' reasons or just because he's a little weird himself

also how he
TALKS
LIKE THIS

[strange cloud]

Weird ass speaking pattern

[ripe harbor]

gives the vibe of very deliberate words

I'm not sure he could speak without the caps or the glow, lol

The pre-chapter 3 consensus (if there was one) was 'someone interrupted the intro, which wasn't necessarily in real time', but Gaster being able to just talk to you in chapter 3 & hold conversations over multiple restarts makes it weird he doesn't bring up the intro, if it was really an issue

He doesn't seem to express any more difficulty, confusion, or worry. So it seems either there isn't anything to worry about, or Gaster doesn't fully understand, himself.

Its like how he never responded to Ralsei's name in the intro, I've seen the take that perhaps he can't see into Dark Worlds, or Dark Worlds can't be known beforehand, or the Prophecy doesn't include stuff in the Dark Worlds- all disproven.

and it's like what you've mentioned before, that the Soul/Us only shows up recently, since we literally were not present before the intro (unless it's something like we 'forgot' in universe)

Why now? Why the intro at all? Whats the deal with Kris?

but I do think the 'someone' in the secret boss quests is the same someone, and I do think they are 'hard to remember' & that's why nobody ever gives them concrete details or seems to notice them creeping about.

Might be Gaster's not immune to that? We'll probably find out.

[ripe harbor]

I'd even go so far as to say this might be the reason Spamton's never referred to by name in Chapter 3, and often not even in 2, beyond the thematic.

Like it's a literalization of the idea.

a dozen descriptors, 'that spammy mailman', 'little freak', 'my partner', 'ad guy', 'notorious big-shot', 'some salesman lobbyist type', 'a certain... y'know', '[some people that] attempt to impersonate me (<- Swatch)', but rarely his name

the "B.ShotBowtie", described as "A handsome bowtie. Looks like the brand name has been cut off."

and obviously the Addisons pretend to not remember him, but it could parallel a deeper sort of forgetting involved with another character, like his glasses.

They were made to impersonate Swatch, buuuut that's probably not the out of universe reason lmao.

(||Before 3+4 I had some minor takes on Spamton & his relationship to his name/face, and why he's both desperate to re-invent himself yet holds onto the name, and fights you in a city with his face plastered everywhere. I read it as him trying to push his identity as his- he doesn't want to just get big. He wants to be himself & get Big. He wants to be able to shed the bad but still be 'Spamton'.||)

so I've was taking note of chapter 3 going even further into not saying his name

pretty awesome. It's like how the previous versions of him never get eyes.

[ripe harbor]

@strange cloud do people ever still talk about who the 'two' in Entry 17 are? Is there some new consensus on that?

wouldn't be too surprised if one of them is this 'other voice' in the intro, if there is one.

[strange cloud]

Current consensus I think

[ripe harbor]

Real & Valid lmao

[strange cloud]

Seen takes ranging from the classic Sans and Alphys, to the skele family, Sans and Papyrus, and the new penumbra duo, Friend and Eram

[ripe harbor]

I've Kris & The Soul in fanart, which goes hard

no idea if its accurate at all but never let that get in the way of sick art

I don't even expect an answer for that one, either

[strange cloud]

Shmaybe

Idk

[ripe harbor]

not every mystery needs answers imo

if its supposed to be Sans / Alphys or the brothers, even more so

[ripe harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPEyaCsbqYQ

Claire Noelle
I don't even need to listen to know it'll be good

even a lyrical version, which can be iffy. She makes interesting compositions.

[restive comet]

I'm just remembering how on my blind run of Ch2, I was feeling delirious and somehow misinterpreted Spamton as a pedo, breaking my pure pacifist run because I beat him to a pulp on the spot

[sacred wigeon]

Kroomba content... more deltamusic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoMQHY00zPg

It's peak i think

Their theme for the Cold Place in this installation of songs is also really good

[rain lotus]

toby fox when he sees spunchbop cheese pits

[low surge]

Spamton is… problematic media????

Something something he called her hochi mama

[sharp lodge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TrrPvz6nHI

[restive comet]

I forgot about that tbh

[ripe harbor]

honestly people breaking their pacifist runs specifically to beat up Spamton is kinda in theme, though. Its like being afflicted irl with how other characters perceive him in-universe.

my blind run I fucked up recruiting because I misunderstood how it worked, and once I got the 3/3 and 5/5 I just started throwing hands. Which un-recruits them.

[low surge]

Funny that I saw him and was like “oh my god beautiful baby trash man”

He is wretched and covered in filth ❤️ 🥰

[ripe harbor]

eyyyy he actually does offhandedly mention sound

talks about the 'ringing' as similar to the angel's 'cry', then flashes the Knight roaring while offhandedly saying "Noisy fuckin' cosmology, Deltarune's got..."

Baldur's post also slips into it for a sec

really I just put it forward as prominent. The whisper becomes a hiss becomes a cry becomes a roar.

The signal transmits clearly, except where it starts ringing / rippling.

Sound is right up there with ink-ocean for being at that overlap of 'Wave-stuff' and 'art-stuff', especially as a song.

I just know he used the fucked up Image_Chopped on purpose

[rain lotus]

it's what he would have wanted

do you wanna be a [fuck] on a [shit] your whole life?!

[ripe harbor]

One thing I'd add re: Glass - Water is that a 'glass-like sea' does also explicitly appear in Revelations, and might be one of the inspirations for why the Dark is both.

"Behold, there was a throne set in heaven, and one sitting on the throne that looked like a jasper stone and a sardius. There was a rainbow around the throne, like an emerald to look at. Around the throne were twenty-four thrones. On the thrones were twenty-four elders sitting, dressed in white garments, with crowns of gold on their heads. Out of the throne proceed lightnings, sounds, and thunders. There were seven lamps of fire burning before his throne, which are the seven Spirits of God."
"Before the throne was something like a sea of glass, similar to crystal. In the middle of the throne, and around the throne were four living creatures full of eyes before and behind...The four living creatures, each one of them having six wings, are full of eyes around and within. They have no rest day and night, saying, 'Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God, the Almighty, who was and who is and who is to come!”

That this passage also involves covered-in-wings-and-eyes creatures, and a scintillating rainbow 'like an emerald to look at' makes it more worth noting, imo, in the context of DR's fountains and Titans.

could easily see a lot of those elements building off this as a base, and then getting expanded in different directions to link with other stuff (static, or whatever).

[ripe harbor]

for me he said "YOU'RE LIKE ME...
[Desperate]
BUT WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT, DON'T WE!?
& I think it fucked up my brain chemistry maybe forever

I got a really spiritually accurate blind DR playthrough though, because I missed his shop & looped the whole dark world trying to find it

and one of my friends popped in and said 'why not just do the chapter & come back?' and I went 'Well, I promised, right. I can't just leave.'

whoops

uh oh!

'Because it would be too sad to leave him there waiting, and then move on.'

I didn't even know. A trick most devious.

[low surge]

Clueless

[ripe harbor]

from @ouramateur

||Kris-slash, but I like how they framed these panels by interweaving the three separate talks. It's all mixed up.||

[rain lotus]

that's really good

[ripe harbor]

I think it will be interesting when it comes out why Ralsei plays so cagey about the Soul

[low surge]

Yeah go ahead and just punch me in the mouth sure whatever who even cares anymore

[ripe harbor]

uh, uh, uh.....

https://www.tumblr.com/chubbidust/807728864668385280?source=share

just doin my thing

learning numbers

-# #deltarune #utdr #utdr fanart #ralsei deltarune #susie deltarune #pixel art #pixel animation #my art

Tumblr · Feb 5, 2026, 4:51 PM

does this help. is this better

[low surge]

If Susie taught Lancer six seven he’d never stop and King would try and throw him off the castle again

[analog hemlock]

My favorite show is on again

ScoutxD ↩️

[Reply to:](#1159883117448929316 message) from @ouramateur

[minor merlin]

mercyseb on tumblr

[analog hemlock]

Consider: Kris as Susie's shoulder devil

[rain lotus]

kris is her shoulder angel they just repeat whatever her shoulder devil says to troll

[ripe harbor]

kris is her shoulder devil they just repeat whatever her shoulder angel (Me) says. But trolls.

[analog hemlock]

kirs can be yuo angle or yuor devil

[ripe harbor]

I think its a little funny that the game is written as you being a little ride-or-die for susie by default

She says "Dude lets look for the code" & the Soul goes o7 on it boss.

Mandatory progression to do what Susie wants over what Kris wants

[ripe harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDU_J1MRa1U

pretty interesting theme here, too. Brings in some of the 'Power of Spamton' leftovers.

but in a way that's a little darker than that song

[lusty cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwwHrA7RWmE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVjC-N-AGUM

Was out for a while, can you guys tell me what the latest theory videos are?

[astral quiver]

omg JUnkooo

[lusty cypress]

latest good theories

[astral quiver]

no good theories, only bad ones

[desert raven]

Not 100% sure whether it counts as a theory but Andrew Cunningham put out a new video
It's more like the setup for a theory than an actual theory, though

[ripe harbor]

not a video, but this is a good post

[ripe harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9OA_rcae1E

"Saint Calvin told me not to worry about you,
but he's got his own things to deal with.
There's really just one thing that we have in common,
neither of us will be missed."
good song choice for Deltarune here

[minor merlin]

I fucking love this song so much it's so amazing for edits and animatics fuuuuck

[rain lotus]

eye see

[ripe harbor]

was thinking "Oh is this not well known?" & then remembered I'm crazy

I remember people would often talk about the Titans having this eye & the shape language quite a bit

that it turns out the Titans are Living Dark Fountains explains why you see their symbol / eye everywhere in the ourple places, imo

Jevil's eyes do this too

[rain lotus]

bruh they put providence symbolism in my save point

can't have shit in hometown

[ripe harbor]

to see something is to make it certain!

the second pic is because imo the fact that DR uses a little twinkling star to represent item pickups is also probably relevant?

Like its a common visual shorthand, pokemon games do it all the time,

but in DR you often are reaching into dark holes for them

[rain lotus]

whats it mean that the fucked up gigamonster has it is what i wonder

are they gifts

[ripe harbor]

you see what I mean it feels thematic

theres something still shining. perhaps even in the cold.

[rain lotus]

titans homousian with pickups

mmm

[ripe harbor]

tbh the Titans themselves are basically innocent

they react more than they act

there's something interesting in that the Black Shard, which deals extra damage to Dark, doesn't deal extra damage to the Save-Point shields of the Titan.

something about Titans-as-Angels-as-Stars, maybe?

Save Points and Titans are both stars, because the Dark is Night & Dreams, or something

[rain barn]

makes me wonder what that'll entail for asriel

[ripe harbor]

and items are things that you can find in the otherwise empty space, in the same way that a save point marks a snapshot of your progress, so you can find it again?

like uhhhhh

its also the graphic used when Darkners pop out of your inventory to come to life

Items, but also something that keeps its 'thing-ness' where you might otherwise see nothing but empty space. Something with a bit of life or personality to it, so Dark Fountains being the thing that causes this in the first place? Makes sense to me.

You can only bring Darkners with you if you've bonded with them, you save by 'connecting' to the world, something like that.

idk why the knight is Star-type, though. Or why they chuck stars at you.

something something Stars = Memory? Experience(s)?

though I actually read the stained glass in chapter 4 as basically the same thing

Sharp, bright bits that stand out in the darkness. Something with hard edges, kinda-crystal, kinda-glass vs. the fuzzy blurred dark blobs.

[ripe harbor]

"And so wept the fallen star, making rivers with it's tears,"

https://tcrf.net/images/2/26/Spr_titan_crack.gif

actually watching this cutscene again, interesting that the 'river' appears with the phrase 'And hear them', and is depicted as flowing with the same shape used for sound waves elsewhere

really rudes my buster

[ripe harbor]

hmm..... 'burning' added to the computer-terms lens in the sense of how you 'burn' a CD

I mean I guess Spamton does literally make this exact joke

but that is a form of memory transfer & storage

also one of the reasons I think the MANTLE game takes place in the DW version of the upstairs mirror,

carpets got an eye pattern in orange

[strange cloud]

People who don’t like chapter 3 are weak and will not survive the later chapters

[ripe harbor]

coping with the lack of a newsletter with this channel

https://www.youtube.com/@sarahdavisbaker

[low surge]

(@SebaDoesntExist)

[ripe harbor]

trio secret boss

[ripe harbor]

the She/Her mug keeps walking over to Ralsei

🤔

[ripe harbor]

this isn't really UTDR related, but also

"Our universe is always speaking. It speaks in signals, showing up in the periphery, streaking through the fog & bleeding through our telescopes. It flips bits and alters data, it alters how we feel... The light from the big bang, that sound of the universe? You've grown up with it. You saw it on your television, you heard it on the radio. It lives between channels. A small part of that static is the cosmic background radiation, picked up by an antenna somewhere: The beginning of the universe, bookmarking the morning cartoons."

"If we can't predict [White Noise], how can we possibly know it? The drone of the signal carries within it the possibility of its constance being disturbed: for something else to come through. A message, a voice. We stand at the edge of our universe, in the dark. For all our tools, we can only see a few feet ahead. When we see shadows in the fog, we hope for ghosts, for a presence, because the alternative is too lonely to bear."

It's absolutely DR related. And all her videos dive into the same sorts of space, it's kinda sick.

she starts talking about how radio receivers are like Ouija boards & also basically photographs (they capture light) and I'm going 🙂‍↕️

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inf6TO8Yqgc

Raise up your bat changed lyrics to keep it singable
applies to Ralsei's version as well
Instead of singing about cats & 'mites' he's talking about phone calls and fun

how odd. instead of cats he's singing about phone calls.

[low surge]

https://tenor.com/view/delta-rune-deltarune-true-truth-roaring-the-roaring-gif-9875655867658420783

[manic parrot]

god, the Titan's animation is so good

legit looks like something from The Banner Saga or a Thunder Lotus game

[astral quiver]

Cool Hat mug has an identity crisis

[rain barn]

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:blakz6km2vy5xes6pvwxp2pw/post/3lrgp3sx72k2s

mads!! (@madsengland.bsky.social)

#deltarune #undertale
don’t eat that, you’ll get sick

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Bluesky · Jun 12, 2025, 7:52 PM

[rain lotus]

i didn't like chapter 1 but i hope i made up for it by rteally liking chapter 3

[lusty cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TrrPvz6nHI

[lusty cypress]

Very cool

[lusty cypress]

And this photocopy metaphor has broader implications. The allegory the Aces present - mechanically copying something already existing and using it as a basis for renewed life - is exactly what Tenna does with his Boards, and it is, in a sense, what Deltarune is as a game. From the foundation of Undertale - its setting, designs, systems, expectations - something new and a little uncanny is created. Like the aces are colored in and made real through being passed off as authentic, we bring Deltarune to life with our “hope” and our experience playing through it.

[lusty cypress]

https://kenomacreature.tumblr.com/post/807577167274934272/what-is-the-point-of-deltarunes-shadow-crystal

baldur

WHAT IS THE POINT OF DELTARUNE'S SHADOW CRYSTAL QUEST?

A lot of people think the Shadow Crystal quest will be instrumental to "subverting the prophecy". From my observations, when people are working out how they think the rest of the game will unfold, they tend to conceive of the Crystal quest as being more or less analogous to the Pacifist quest in Undertale. You can complete the game normally, get an unsatisfying ending, and then if you go back and complete some missable tasks you can get the "happy" or "true ending" instead.

This is not a totally unreasonable take. We've seen throughout these chapters that recruiting every Darkner often nets a more favorable outcome, even saving some characters from their potential demise. And the Crystal quest centers around facing seemingly insurmountable odds, with Seam, the quest-giver, becoming progressively more hopeful that fate may not be decided with each powerful foe brought to heel. One of Toby's recent teasers even hints that the power of the Shadow Crystals may in fact be Determination, des...

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[ripe harbor]

its what I've been saying! It's truke!

The creation of the vessel as assembling pieces and yet still possessing ownership of it as 'yours' isn't too different from the chapter -> chapter creation of "Deltarune" as a game, and 'your' playthrough of it!

From the Thrash Machine, to Tenna's boards, to 'Lord of the Hammer', to Spamton Neo, Deltarune is full of re-interpretation & puts forward the stance that doing so is fundamentally generative.

or at least remains sympathetic to that position, it occupies a hopeful position in the story.

or Dark -> Second Sanctuary

The question of "Is something built only from recycled parts able to be 'renewed life'?" is not a new one for Deltarune if you are unwell enough about <- this thing. But it shifted from sidequest commentary to a major setting element, it's absolutely underlooked as a massive chunk of what Deltarune is about.

If calling it "Deltarune" is even accurate,

when talking about re-interpretation of existing media & this game, its worth noting that the name is inconsistent. <DELTARUNE>, Deltarune, Delta Rune,

"deltarune". Lowercase d.

It might end up that "Deltarune" and "deltarune" aren't exactly the same thing.

[ripe harbor]

The dark worlds as a whole, honestly. They're mirror-copies of the light world, literally brought to life as a new perspective.

They're re-interpretative!

I've been saying for years that Deltarune positions media in general as being derivative, to have Gerson outright say

* Of course, the biggest fans got mad... but, isn't it interesting?
* The book was already just an interpretation of something else.
* Stories can be retold. They can be changed... That's what I believe.```

?

it's underlined twice and highlighted for you

people never really talk about Tenna's boards in this context, but I think it's an important detail for why theres an 'original' game at all, or why 'Dragon Blazers' is even brought up.

like he didn't need to remix an existing game for his gameshow, it could've just been minigames.

What Tenna does with the OG game, and what Susie does with Dark Sanctuary, are imo the same thing.

or this comment

"Not the only version of that song"

[ripe harbor]

like its fucked up that this joke with Ralsei not wanting to sing edgy lyrics isn't just used for offhanded mentions of cats & ringing, but also like, is thematically similar to other times DR talks about rewriting and re-contextualizing existing artistic work.

[lusty cypress]

That's akutagawa's position
He was a famous Japanese writer, author of Hell Screen and Spider's Thread

[ripe harbor]

Because at first you laugh at the joke, and then you go "well, taking it seriously..."

[ripe harbor]

I was talking about him yesterday somewhere else (not DR related), lol

was thinking about Rashōmon

It was honestly my position too, more vaguely, but engaging with Deltarune as just chapters 1+2 was what got me to say it with my chest.

I think for me personally, those questions left open in Spamton's questline and having to think of my own stance on it affected me more emotionally than if I'd been able to play the next chapters & have the game tell me it outright.

because it made them less pithy, and less academic. It wasn't just "Is a clear imitation still worthwhile?", it was "Does Spamtom deserve it?". It wasn't "Can things be renewed, generally, into a 'new life'?", it was "Is this character utterly delusional, or aspirationally hopeful, and does his failure suggest the failure - the uselessness - of hope?"

Did the quest matter if the tragic outcome was the way it was always going to end ||(unless...)||?

and I do think Deltarune is going to be pretty upfront about its stance on those questions

but

I personally liked these more direct moments more because the subtler stuff had already infected convinced me to around the same place.

It was also a little unexpected & a little refreshing given what I saw (at the time) about Undertale and the indomitable human spirit and all that. Spamton's quest is absolutely in conversation with Undertale- it's a storyline where Hopes & Dreams aren't enough.

Which I also found more interesting. It's easy to believe in hope in settings where it is a magically unstoppable power.

But do you really believe in hope, there, or power?

It's easy to dismiss reflections when you 'know' you are 'real'. But I think a lot of Deltarune is about these blurring of borders, like how that post describes the relationship between the Light and Dark.

To be able to neatly draw a dividing line, and say "This could never apply to me", and not think about it again. But it's easy to believe in certain things.

Much, much, much more compelling to ask if you need that certainty to believe. If you need control of an outcome to make going through it meaningful.

[rain barn]

on the topic of eyes, I looked at this illustration from ffxiv: shadowbringers again and thought it looked very deltarune

[ripe harbor]

Easy to believe in light during the day- but more important to believe in it during the night.

[ripe harbor]

"This CureAll ain't shi-"

They call me the Warrior of Light like they don't know I'm packin' heavy. Can't call mine a static 'cause I can't stop the flow.

[rain barn]

that bit is, incidentally, also about copies of copies

a series of girls put into the torment nexus as vessels for someone else's power

[rain lotus]

deltarune is so ff it's nutty

[rain barn]

deltarune has a very distinct visual vibe but very little about it is thematically new and that's the whole point!

it's playing with the thematic blocks

[ripe harbor]

~~full of LGBT people ~~

[rain lotus]

well yeah

[ripe harbor]

it kinda fun how it gets meta even with that

[rain lotus]

i keep telling my partner dude you gotta play the final fantasy games especially the old ones because i played 4, 5 and 6 this year and i loved it and i know they'd love it TOO they just don't want to PLAY old games i want them to play OLD GAMES

[ripe harbor]

or trying to understand the weird motifs of the underlying stuff, like that Andrew Cunningham video - "Linking together seemingly disparate things into a coherent whole" is also sort of what Deltarune is about

[ripe harbor]

I have a friend who would absolutely go craaaazy for System Shock 2 if they could get past the "fish people", so I get it.

[rain barn]

I ought to go back and finish ff4 sometime, I played it on my sister's emulator ages ago and I only got as far as the antlion cave

[rain lotus]

it grets really good and then it gets miserable

[ripe harbor]

I always wanted to play 6

[rain lotus]

but i played a patched snes copy

5 was actually my favorite of the three and i also had to play that patched because i'm stubborn

[rain lotus]

NOT ff2-levels miserable though

i could not finish that shit

fuck

stupid fucking game

i finished 4 and i was glad i did but i did not finish 2 after finishing 1 and did not touch 3 at all

[rain barn]

the exact bit that walled me was the solo fight with edward at the oasis

I could not figure out how he worked

[rain lotus]

i don't quite remember that part but that makes sense

its funny they make you learn edward and i think you only fight with himmmm twice?

he's the most third wheel of all the third wheel characters

[lusty cypress]

Hm, what if the final prophecy is noelle or kris being thrown "below" the world to seal the dark

[ripe harbor]

possible, though if someone would be it seems like Susie's the obvious candidate

"The Dragon" cast down into "the pit"

I put her & noelle up there though, and Kris in 2nd place after one of them.

[rain barn]

I had a thought earlier that the story might involve the prophecy being fulfilled to the letter, terrible events included... and then the story just continues past that instead of ending right there

not very textually substantiated, just a hunch

another story gets written

I guess you might look at the amount of prophecy panels we've seen that have happened compared to the amount of things that will happen

[ripe harbor]

don't mean to interrupt, but I'm curious if anyone here read His Dark Materials. I didn't, and when it came up in that video I was a little 👀 at how similar the language & topics it was using were to Deltarune.

[rain barn]

I have not, so it sounds like I should

[ripe harbor]

I knew about it as like, a vague fantasy series that existed. I kinda lumped it in with Narnia in my head, I think, but

[rain barn]

a trilogy of fantasy novels by Philip Pullman consisting of Northern Lights ah

[ripe harbor]

yeah, partially that

but also its about elementary particles of Dark Matter, 'Dust', and how they blur between parallel worlds

and ||how they are ultimately produced by thought, and needed for thought to form||.

or this bit, where he's talking about how the title refers to this bit from Paradise lost, referring to the creation of the world from the primordial abyss (where everything was mixed together)

idk if it was outright inspiration, but its definitely hitting in sorta the same spaces. And if it was outright inspiration / gets a nod, I could see "NORTHERNLIGHT" being that, lol.

[rain barn]

I was also thinking about a song from ffxiv earlier since you could very easily apply its imagery to deltarune https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/blog/003010.html

[ripe harbor]

it caught my attention partially because in my personal v. speculative 'just saying shit' DR notes from like a year ago I sketched out "The Dark as Dark Matter(?)" in a similar way.

[rain barn]

In monochrome melodies Our tears are painted in red

[rain lotus]

i love drawing parallels between lyricism and my favorite game

my favorite band has my favorite music video and it feels vaguely deltarune coded for reasons i can't articulate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rnjrCvlWE cw loud drone metal [mostly excuse to post the music video it's my top five ever]

[ripe harbor]

in terms of meta-motifs or whatever you'd call them, I'm if The Dark will pull it all off

but I think the fact it genuinely shifts metaphors like crazy is pretty fitting

color, water, shadow, sound, glass... it's indistinct & the boundaries blur, because it is about indistinctness.

the sorta-sloppy edges of how it's described are the point? maybe?

[rain lotus]

the lyric that jumps out to me is "Driving a wedge between pain / And greater pain / This is pain / This is loss / Is this in love? / Is this enough?"

grief lyrics that go too hard for game that goes too hard about grief i guess

kris my favorite blorbo for some reason

[lusty cypress]

My otehr idea is kris gets just... gonered
All their memories, all the love poured into them... removed, reducing them to a shell again
Though that's a bi complicated to be in a single propehcy verse
"The cage erased away"?

[ripe harbor]

used up

I think it'd be framed as a natural conclusion

fulfilled its purpose (axiomatic good)

[lusty cypress]

ANyway, the trhown into dark stuff fits susie as the one doing it because she has repeatedly thrown her allies
And ralsei seemed very concerned about her doing violence

[ripe harbor]

Why cry for an empty vessel? You might as well shed a tear for garbage.

and knockoffs have no right to complain(?)

[rain lotus]

yeah...

[ripe harbor]

they 'have to take' being thrown away?

very moralistic language

to voice objection would be in error

[ripe harbor]

ooo, I do like that with susie throwing

with the climax of chapter 4 literally being jumping into abyssal darkness with Kris

there is a lot of set up that the final prophecy involves fated violence

Susie V. Kris or Susie V. Noelle seems like the two most natural there

[lusty cypress]

Yeah

throw kris or noelle

the yeet of doom

And there's a hope of escaping, if hurt by the experience

[ripe harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIT1RSAcTDo

This song started reminding me of Deltarune a while ago. Vindicated more now, ig.

Can't say I know what is in it,
Or count the beats per minute,
But I know there's more washing up upon the shore!

& I can tell it's there. by the way it's not quite there.

[lusty cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inf6TO8Yqgc

[ripe harbor]

A is for apple, B is... for Bee. C is for...

C is for cat :3

[lusty cypress]

https://awesomespiritcat21.tumblr.com/post/817440235725144064/to-build-on-the-ralsei-is-a-book-religious

Faratholoriazin

To build on the "Ralsei is a book/ religious journal" theory I want to add that not only is the scarf the bookmark and his cloak/hat and outfit is the covers. His fur is for Asriel.

NOT JUST THAT but recently (I'm not religious) I just learned people like to write in their own personal Bibles or whatever. So maybe....the journal pages and notes left from Asriel and December aren't just normal journal notes. Maybe they're from his personal Bible. Considering he went with his family and the Holiday family constantly before going to college or whatever.

-# #deltarune #asriel dreemurr #december holiday #undertale #theory #deltarune theory #undertale theory

Tumblr · May 23, 2026, 9:29 PM

[ripe harbor]

I think something interesting with the lens of Susie as 'not The Girl' & Kris as 'superfluous and a vessel' is that Ralsei sticks out by not sticking out, except for Gaster not responding to his name at all.

but if Ralsei himself is a re-interpretation of the prophecy, he'd match the other two

his legend is unneeded, there's already the glass one. But he gives it to you anyway.

or he just sticks out, which is possible.

or one of those reads is off the mark, which is possible

He already slots into struggling with purpose and living beyond it, it's just he comes at it from different angles to the other two imo.

& the Bibliox are ancient & bearded because they are the 'old' song. They are scholars 'greyed by research forgotten'.

while Ralsei is young- he's the newer song, maybe.

I also think a creative work fits his backstory, if it was something the writer was embarrassed about / never finished, so left it buried.

[ripe harbor]

https://www.tumblr.com/bogcreacher/805370207094947840?source=share

im here to scurry around

hold lancer like energy drink

-# #my art #Fanart #deltarune #susie deltarune #ralsei deltarune #lancer deltarune #Utdr

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[lusty cypress]

https://monkeyglandsauce.tumblr.com/post/817428114545197056/desss-body-is-in-the-lake-isnt-it
You do not recognize the bodies in the water
I think dess disappeared instead of dying (and it would be dust instead of a body)
But it fits a small town tragedy/mystery

Dess's body is in the lake isn't it.

-# #deltarune #deltarune theory #watched mr Cunninghams new video and for some reason my brains screaming at me that Dess's body is in the lake

Tumblr · May 23, 2026, 6:16 PM

[rain lotus]

to be honest i think kris knows what happened to her and if it was the lake i don't think they'd look at it the way they do

the bunker's right there we watched someone disappear in it

i definitely think it's relevant at least as far as water/sound/waves symbology i just like. kris is avoidant about the bunker

and it's not just "small town tragedy/mystery" there are ontological consequences at hand come on

think big

[lusty cypress]

I know

I said it couldn't be the lake

[rain lotus]

sometimes i just see these theories and think people put aside buildup for the BORING answer

[lusty cypress]

I still see kris knight around

[crystal shale]

https://bsky.app/profile/punkitt.bsky.social/post/3mmq55m3m222s

punkitt ‼️🧣 (@punkitt.bsky.social)

randomly came across this very funny deltarune post on the steam forums

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Bluesky · May 26, 2026, 4:17 AM

[astral quiver]

reading this like Saul Goodman

[minor merlin]

This is because a nation fully and completely represents the interests and beliefs of every single resident in full.

[low surge]

Elite tier bait

[lusty cypress]

Ugh won't be able to watch ink theory for a while
Can someone sum it up for me?

[desert raven]

It's not really a theory right now
Pt 1 is just a summary of the big thematic symbols and their connections

And pt 2 isn't out yet

[strange cloud]

Chat

I have found, the funniest theory

Of all time

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eGnlrwM0fJU&ra=m

Tera theory

https://youtu.be/Sd8aygn1EJY?si=tTpEqybNnELz3Lil

Also this

[minor merlin]

"This is my Deltarune OC"

[serene loom]

on the subject of the ending and specifically susies line about not having one, i maintain a personal crack theory that the "ending" will be something very bad (the ocean of ink, possibly the roaring) followed by susie denying the ending (the pen of hope) except instead of fixing the problem, it'll just loop but it will be an internal loop (as opposed to UT's external loop) until the true path to the actual ending presents itself

[minor merlin]

...in-universe time loop?

[serene loom]

yeah

-the end is never the end is never the end is-

or something of the sort

tricky tonys temporal torment of timeless tales

[ripe harbor]

though its hard to see exactly which one is the bigger one & which one is the less important one, or if they are both equal or w/e

is it 'The world ending, and grief is like your world ending' or is it 'Grief is like your world ending, so the literal world is ending too', or is it 'shits fucked upppppp..... damn....'

[ripe harbor]

It's got thematic support in a few vague places, but in a way thats also like questionable if 'time' even means anything.

Is a copy pulled from noise the same as resetting time? Is everyone just forgetting the same as resetting time? Is there any difference between these three ideas?

[ripe harbor]

no..... not again....... It cant be....

[ripe harbor]

Gerson's story only ever reached 6 Chapters, and then it ended, with the pen waiting for someone else to write. So I don't even think this idea is that crack honestly.

[rain lotus]

i think they're homousian

[ripe harbor]

So the question afterwards is "Is that ending Weird Route?", or "Is that ending accepting tragedy?", or "Is that ending something-something The Shadow Crystals?"

[ripe harbor]

ya probably

[ripe harbor]

there is "Only one ending . . . ?", after all

[rain lotus]

like i think the grief is supernatural, and that that's important to the narrative, but it's still the grief as the serpent and the sun and end of the world etc.

[ripe harbor]

its like the grief of 'the world' to me, yeah

which creates a collective nightmare in the same way an individual can have an individual one.

(or the town's sorrow, which it refuses to acknowledge, in the form of December Holiday or the character stories)

[serene loom]

my version is that "one ending" only refers to the actual end of the game, first the knights "victory" then susies denial, which (under this theory) always results in the loop (which does NOT involve going back to replay anything like in UT) before the loop is broken with the actual ending

[ripe harbor]

Loss that makes itself seen

literally, memories you try to bury / ignore, but which force their way back and overwhelm you.

[serene loom]

UT's loop is the player hitting new game over and over, a complete restart with (nearly) no interference from other versions. DR's loop (in this theory) would be entirely contained within Ch 7 and is exclusively forward progress (relative to the loop). yknow?

[rain lotus]

i'm all in on the game grieving gaster somehow

or something like that

i still have to develop that idea

[serene loom]

its not playing the game again, its the characters reliving past events (memories or not)

[ripe harbor]

I think the game is kinda sombre about the Forgotten Man, and other places where he's referenced (imo) (like the cracked shell on the beach, where it is 'a pity' that it 'is just repeating all it knew'.)

[ripe harbor]

see I don't actually know if DR makes a distinction here

What is real is what is remembered, what isn't remembered WAS AS IF IT WAS NEVER THERE AT ALL.

[rain lotus]

yea

[ripe harbor]

Seam asks if you are really sure you didn't beat jevil, if you have on another playthrough

and then says that you maybe just haven't remembered you have yet

[serene loom]

yeah, thats part of the support for my loop theory

[ripe harbor]

all the memories exist, all the possibilities (lol that was accidental) are already there, you just sharpen the connection to them.

[serene loom]

i never said the loop we play is the start, just when we (player) enter it

[ripe harbor]

oh ok lol. In that case agreed 100%.

I think the intro & UI is basically Gaster getting you to 'remember' chapters, in order

putting the mixed up pieces back together

[serene loom]

susie creates the loop because she creates the loop because shes going to create the loop because shes already created the loop

no ending, never ending, no loss or forgetting or abandoning, just playing and living and remembering forever always

[ripe harbor]

Deltarune is the story of heroes who grew up in a town about a prophecy, playing games based on books based on faiths based on <DELTARUNE>, which is the story of the heroes- shattered through time...

What does it mean to be 'original'? Is anything not from somewhere else?

though!

I personally think Susie is in disagreement with restarting a creative work to correct errors

like in the narrative

[serene loom]

yeah, i think shed want to continue but (initially) wouldn't see a path forward In The Dark

[ripe harbor]

you've got Kris starting over & over & over & over again trying to make a perfect trace, leading to something more unrecognizable than if they just lived with the error the first time,

and then you've got Susie saying 'write your own storys, its ok even if their not perfect'

[serene loom]

she needs a method, a means, an Ark which will shine you the way

and Kris and the Player must build that Ark, again and again and again

[rain lotus]

call me noah the way i'm making two save files

is this anything

[serene loom]

WHEN YOUR HOPE IS SLOWLY DYING AND YOUR FUTURE'S LOST ITS RIGHTS

[ripe harbor]

Deltarune must be perfect. But it keeps getting 6 chapters in and-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8GOcB6H0uQ

luckily the accumulation of minor errors in copying never has any side effects. when you are doing ontological copying.

[rain lotus]

unhinged choice of song

[ripe harbor]

pretty funny comments

[serene loom]

i hadn't really integrated copying stuff in my original thoughts about looping but susie creating a pseudo dark world that emulates the pre-Roaring light world populated by copies that degrade over the course of the loops would also be appropriate (and may even account for existing inconsistencies)

[rain lotus]

can't believe i just spent seven minutes watching the royal scientist be ripped to shreds across the CORE. is this anything

[strange cloud]

No matter how much you deny it scout

Tera lives

[serene loom]

Deltarune Endless Eight where Ch1 was actually just the start of loop 13,976

[ripe harbor]

kinda unironically what I think is actually happening but with Gaster instead of Susie

[strange cloud]

Also, while I know Gerson questions her on it, I think it’s Kris who does wield the white pen

Primarily due to the framing of the final shot in chapter 4

Kris literally inbetween their promise to Dess and Susie

It’s their choice that will decide things

Susie has already made hers

Now it’s Kris’s turn

[serene loom]

thats the genius of my partly formed crack theory! all opposition can be integrated!

[ripe harbor]

The wind howls, as if it fears the very night itself.

Waves crash deep, deep, deep below.

[rain lotus]

getting real deltarune vibes from the way the seventh generation copies are monochrome

[strange cloud]

I mean I do disagree in general with timeloop stuff I’m just saying that even in a non timeloop theory, the white pen of hope is clearly important and I think it’s Kris’s

[ripe harbor]

I don't know if this time will loop, but I think it may have reset before

but I think this time might be a little, idk, buggy? unintended?

[strange cloud]

Gaster’s “new future” comments do imply something like that yah

It implies there was a future before this one

[ripe harbor]

"Something just happened"

[strange cloud]

But that could also just be undertale

It’s very unclear

[crimson badger]

ch7 starting by you walking in on kris-1, soul-1 and susie-1, ralsei is still ralsei

[ripe harbor]

Yeah I ultimately don't really draw a distinction between like a strong prophecy of events & those events 'actually happening' and then getting reset for the Dark. Gaster's a little wobbly in his place in time.

[ripe harbor]

Its also never said in-game (iirc?), so I can't take it 100% seriously for that reason either

[strange cloud]

Yah, he seems to exist somewhere outside of it

[strange cloud]

Was it really just the Twitter threads?

Damn

[ripe harbor]

I think that phrasing was twitter, which doesn't mean nothing,

[rain lotus]

gaster tweets?

[ripe harbor]

thats where the first Dark Winds stuff is, and Gaster going "I've been looking for you, too"

& both of those are in Deltarune the game itself

[serene loom]

yeah the official twitter has had messages from gaster occasionally

[ripe harbor]

but its kinda hard for me to figure out what 'new future' would imply, and it being just twitter threads makes it even hard 🤷‍♂️

[serene loom]

or the narrator that definitely isnt gaster

one of the two

[ripe harbor]

He announced DR Chapters 1, 2, and 3+4

[rain lotus]

damn bruh

[strange cloud]

-Library Bird

[ripe harbor]

trying to find the ones that got the profile change...

[rain lotus]

i'm very bad at this i missed the sweepstakes i missed the gaster wario hijacking

i DID get to draw a penis and say thank you with that one thing

[ripe harbor]

& this one

so like. Maybe it's not Gaster, but

but

cmon

[strange cloud]

I’m gonna be honest if someone still thinks this isn’t Gaster I don’t take them seriously

[strange cloud]

As a rule

[rain lotus]

o come on it says "very very interesting"

[rain lotus]

o damn

[strange cloud]

Like, I don’t take Gaster deniers seriously in general

[strange cloud]

But especially the ones that deny he was the Twitter guy and narrator

[ripe harbor]

he also had some dialogue for the SURVEY_PROGRAM download, because Deltarune was not upfront about what it was

[rain lotus]

i remember this from survey program yeah

[ripe harbor]

really Toby Fox said "Download my suspicious program" & his fans went o7 yes sir where do I click sir

[rain lotus]

mysterious self contained EXE that like

came with a cryptic paraphrased "THIS SOFTWARE IS SHIPPED AS-IS" disclaimer and nothing else

[strange cloud]

He could have given all of us viruses

[ripe harbor]

it gets to a point where I just don't even understand it. like what is Gaster to someone if not all these elements, right?

[ripe harbor]

I've been thinking about his Undertale Kickstarter lines sometimes, recently

'his' here being Toby Fox, not Gaster

really just the line "Its very nature is shrouded in darkness."

[ripe harbor]

Why is it unclear? "Its nature is shrouded in darkness." ohhhhh. 👍 ok.

I understand everything (<- doesn't get it at all)

[ripe harbor]

A bug? A program-error - in Deltarune?

preposterous

I would remember running into one of those

[serene loom]

something very very interesting about the survey program is that the narrator at the very end (who deletes the vessel) speaks differently to gaster and instead speaks almost exactly like chara

including in the japanese, which is always an important detail

[ripe harbor]

everything in <DELTARUNE> 100% fits into its purpose, with no unwanted information or leftover junk data bouncing around.

[serene loom]

https://suzyundertale.tumblr.com/post/180226681657/in-the-beginning-of-deltarune-as-you-may-know

neat

In the beginning of DELTARUNE, as you may know, your Wonderful Creation is “discarded” by someone. What if I told you I could use the Power Of Language to prove who that is?...

Tumblr · Nov 18, 2018, 4:06 AM

[ripe harbor]

They speak so confidently, but they have the makings of a liar.

regardless, I might agree in ways they wouldn't agree with. I think that might be the demon, as in the one that come when you call out. With the creepy face.

Is that 'Chara'? Idk. I don't know what they mean by Chara.