My players are trapped in an underground bunker with half a ceiling during a Coral storm. Im open for shit to throw at my 2/3rd gen and the 7th gen lol
#Armored Core General!
solar sinew
feral niche
Let me find the line for you.
solar sinew
Id be down for a dystopian ||1984 style game where ALLMIND sees all and we somehow have to fight out way out of it||
solar sinew
Let me find the line for you.
Its what Ayre says during Baltheus, I know
wooden nimbus
Id be down for a dystopian ||1984 style game where ALLMIND sees all and we someh...
That's the plot of AC 1 and AC 3 technically but also yes I live those kind of things
solar sinew
That's the plot of AC 1 and AC 3 technically but also yes I live those kind of t...
IIve yet to play them, my Deck is currently out for RMA, but Ill be going back through all of them once its back
feral niche
Its what Ayre says during Baltheus, I know
You’re right.
I mean it’s been figured out that ||dosing is connecting yourself to the coral intelligence, it just fails to do much usually.||
solar sinew
Im not going to go through the route of ||Ayre, but more of a connection with the Coral as a whole. Ayre works well for the game, but I dont think shed work for a TTRPG||
wooden nimbus
Imagine if ||everyone was on a sympathetic neural cloud network with a bunch of ghosts inside it|| and that's coral yeah
solar sinew
I mean it’s been figured out that ||dosing is connecting yourself to the coral i...
Yeah. Theyll essentially be dosing in that bunker, given the elevator is open. Mostly looking for esoteric shit to throw at them.
Theyve ||hallucinated ID tags, felt a larger connection and belonging, and even had an out of body experience. Most of these were due to being close to large quantities of Coral at once, though||
wooden nimbus
Yeah. Theyll essentially be dosing in that bunker, given the elevator is open. M...
Not canon but based on what we know about it, I can think of some shit. ||Hallucinating past events the coral was able to record by being linked to consciousnesses and cctvs in the facility, people remembering events from inside each other's heads, manifesting surface thoughts as whispers, hearing echoes of last words from people in their lives and whatnot||
solar sinew
Not canon but based on what we know about it, I can think of some shit. ||Halluc...
Hmmm, fun. Very fun. Arquebus has an ADD facility in the same Grid, maybe Ill throw some foreshadowing in there
feral niche
Snail getting to experience what it was like beating his ass.
wooden nimbus
||You remember the password to the PC as your birthdate. You weren't born on that day. You know how to use this software despite never using it because the coral remembers being in the PC when it was used||
solar sinew
Ive also had the idea for the opposite approach. ||Take one stress or tell me a memory that the Coral will absorb and remove from you||
solar sinew
||You remember the password to the PC as your birthdate. You weren't born on tha...
Wait. Youre onto something.
solar sinew
Hm. I might offer them a "ask me one question I will answer in trade for one memory." thing. Theyve had so many questions
wooden nimbus
I will say ||when you get into deconstructing subjectivity I usually encourage a content warning|| but if everyone is cool with it it's a great way to make things feel unnatural
solar sinew
We settled it in S0 and worst case we have safety tools in place
Ill bring it up at the start of the session though, good shout
feral niche
Hm. I might offer them a "ask me one question I will answer in trade for one mem...
Can’t wait for your players to lose themselves as they were and becoming an amalgamation of others.
solar sinew
Can’t wait for your players to lose themselves as they were and becoming an amal...
One of them has been hunting his daughter. He hasnt seen her in 30 years due to cryo after Arquebus put him in storage until his Handler bought him. Another just learned her brother is on Rubicon (hi, Tester AC, welcome to the Redguns).
Im curious to see what theyre willing to offer for answers
Like, they went out there knowing the storm was coming and knowing both corporations and the PCA are looking for something where they are.
Might aswell fafo before discovering what it is
feral niche
What is the most important character/machine in world you’d be willing to pull memories from?
solar sinew
||She thinks Im kidding||
feral niche
That is a horrible punishment.
solar sinew
What is the most important character/machine in world you’d be willing to pull m...
Me Im willing to pull from anything. The question is what my players think to ask.
Theyll probably ask about ||ALLMINDs drones, || but I dont think the Coral has answers. Theyll ask about the Wall and their families.
They might ask about what their employers deal is. If they give me a good memory, Im happy to offer them pretty much anything
solar sinew
That is a horrible punishment.
We cant deny, the story wouldnt be the same if Iguazu had gotten laid at any point
serene kettle
Ayre giving commentary and he just instantly loses the mood but he's not sure why
solar sinew
Lmao
cursive agate
The RRI coral generators ||apparently exploit Coral's ability to "regrow" under pressure||, the weapons could be using some degree of that too.
feral niche
Snort.
Imagine remembering ||being the scientist who burned the coral in the first place.||
solar sinew
Imagine remembering ||being the scientist who burned the coral in the first plac...
Theyve heard of Nagai!
The more interesting piece of intel might be Carla and that shes still around
feral niche
I can’t remember who did what, was trying to think of an interesting character besides Thumb.
Think it’d be interesting to trade for some of RaD’s knowledge, or perhaps even a battle between them and someone else for intel.
serene kettle
seeing younger carla in nagai's memories burned into coral could definitely be something
solar sinew
Yeah, Ill definitely try to seed RaD in there. If only because Carla and their Handler are the only people who can ||decode ALLMINDs comms without Ayre around||.
Plus, they could use some more friendly faces
cursive agate
Think it’d be interesting to trade for some of RaD’s knowledge, or perhaps even ...
The Coyotes were pretty active about trying to get RaD intel/tech.
solar sinew
The Coyotes were pretty active about trying to get RaD intel/tech.
They even hired Balam for some reason
And the PCA
feral niche
Imagine reading the memories of the early gen augmented pilots, like ||Sulla||.
cursive agate
Iguazu on a side job because he's on welfare parts.
solar sinew
Imagine reading the memories of the early gen augmented pilots, like ||Sulla||.
Ohh, yes.
I feel like Ill just throw some Iguazu salt at them if they try to lowball me
feral niche
I feel like those would let you probably read intent/instincts, or something deeper than just memories.
You could make a list of habits associated with different things and the more you trade for them they have to pick from the habits.
If you wanna go that deep anyway.
solar sinew
You could make a list of habits associated with different things and the more yo...
Elaborate?
feral niche
Say you end up trading for a lot of Thumb’s Memories, well you start to act more and more like him.
Or if you traded for some sort of computer you start to get more logical and numerical.
solar sinew
Ahh. Yeah, that could be fun. Im not sure I want to give them a list of peoples memories to pick, but the idea of probing deeper at the cost of picking up habits is fun
feral niche
Yeah, I felt like the trade is more vague. Like ‘I wanna know more about this machine’ and they get some random memory either about its operation from a technician or maybe the machine itself.
solar sinew
Pretty much, yeah. I like your approach of giving it a bit more structure, though
Ill probably attach some sort of stress cost to it they can infer voluntarily.
Or hell, give them the choice between a memory of their own, stress, or something as valuable as their bond powers or relationships
solar sinew
Yeah, that gamerscore tracks
My players were there on RLF side for Balam being "first over the wall". More like first to desert
feral niche
My players were there on RLF side for Balam being "first over the wall". More li...
‘Lemme work on the Juggernaut!’
solar sinew
Can you imagine Iguazu and Volta trying to take down the Juggernaut
feral niche
No.
solar sinew
Volta out here getting hit by every charge while Iguazu is annoyed at the lack of response to his vitriol
feral niche
At least not with the equipment they have at that point.
solar sinew
Not Michigans brightest plan in either case
serene kettle
I actually think they might have done reasonably well against the juggernaut - their default tactics are letting volta take point while Iguazu flanks
solar sinew
We take down the Wall after Balam already shot down most of its defenses
solar sinew
I actually think they might have done reasonably well against the juggernaut - t...
Taking point only really matters if you can get out of the way in time
feral niche
I was gonna say, that requires them to actually get to the wall.
solar sinew
Even if we assume they actually make it up there
feral niche
And curious question, do you think ‘Accessing’ is just easy to do or is it literally mechanical hacking?
solar sinew
We had the benefit of Rusty telling us how this thing works before we ate a charge. Realistically I dont see Volta getting that in time.
Sure the concept of "dont hit the shield" isnt that hard to grasp, but Volta is never gonna see the generator to work it out and Iguazu is quite literally too angry to
solar sinew
And curious question, do you think ‘Accessing’ is just easy to do or is it liter...
Probably some sort of remote acces through hacking? Beats me, youd think hacking would involve finding terminals more often than it does
May just be some sort of override
feral niche
Just makes me wonder if that’s something any AC can do, or if they have to have unique systems for it.
We can upgrade ours with OS Tuning Chips so…
solar sinew
Just makes me wonder if that’s something any AC can do, or if they have to have ...
Given how many ACs we find behind those doors its probably pretty common with ACs at least?
Pure speculation
feral niche
Fair enough.
feral niche
Wormloaf.
solar sinew
Not the worms again
feral niche
I only know of 1 Rubiconian Worm.
And it is ||edible, explosive, and full of drugs.||
Ok, 2 worms.
solar sinew
Theres also mealworms. Which.. surprisingly fit the same definition
feral niche
I was gonna say…
solar sinew
My definition of edible seems to be stretching thin in todays day and age
feral niche
Indeed, anyway they likely make steak out of them cause of the size.
solar sinew
Yeah for sure
feral niche
Bet it’s chewy.
solar sinew
Chewy, probably stings a bit on the way down. Coral probably tastes like tv static
feral niche
Imagine a Coral Enkidu.
jade ginkgo
snail watching maeterlinck die during Reach the Coral Convergence
serene kettle
true
jade ginkgo
funky
late jay
I love the Attache
feral niche
Indeed, supposedly it’s made by Rummy, if you follow the Initialed parts theory.
solar sinew
"The three of you wake up, still coming down from the choices and Coral, something large is moving on the surface, the storm is still on, the blizzard is still on, and you are stuck in a half-open bunker with a glowing chest that just tried to lie to you about its affiliation to the RLF."
yeah, its one of those sessions
feral niche
My friend is play AC6 again because he is getting the AC Itch again.
feral niche
He says he'll try a medium weight build this run.
eager vector
He says he'll try a medium weight build this run.
he did mostly tanks and quads the first time?
feral niche
He ran Spring Chicken a few times near the end.
He was heavy weight pretty much the entire time though.
feral niche
I am going to invite my friend who has been playing AC6.
He will join, whenever. Honestly I think he's gonna want help in looking for AC emulators.
eager vector
He will join, whenever. Honestly I think he's gonna want help in looking for AC ...
Armored Core PS1 Emulator Pack
Pre-configured emulator package made for playing the PS1 Armored Core titles.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wbz2Kpaxq-0sx-70AdzRiQfGB824qfgj
Armored Core PS2 Emulator Pack
Pre-configured emulator package made for playing the PS2 Armored Core titles.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XpKTZX38ufbwc3RcX5tiDKgNMw-jYlPT
feral niche
He definitely does not seem interested in the early slower titles, though I have already told him that I was told here that 4 and 5 are apparently really hard to emulate.
eager vector
I would try to change his mind about third gen AC
prior to 6 that was the peak of the franchise
cursive agate
I've heard 3rd gen balancing can vary a lot depending on the game?
feral niche
Talk to him yourself when he joins, his username is... Piggy0Wiggy.
He might join later.
Surely you can convince him, I can't.
Anyway he decided to reset his save file for his medium weight build.
eager vector
I've heard 3rd gen balancing can vary a lot depending on the game?
Yeah, Nexus+LR is balanced very differently than 3+SL
feral niche
He beat Tester before stopping for the day as he had previous plans with a friend,
keen burrow
HI
feral niche
Welcome, friend.
feral niche
## [Armored Core PS1 Emulator Pack](<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19UE...
Here was the shared Emulators, not that you might find interest with them.
This chat is not always active, #video-game-discussion is a more generic chat and you could also look at the other games in the forums.
serene kettle
Honestly I would give Armored Core 1 a shot even if "slower" doesn't immediately appeal, because it does so many genuinely interesting things. Also tbh I think AC6's movement is closer to it than it is to AC4's in a lot of ways
Loading into the first mission with absolutely no training wheels is an unforgettable and hilarious experience
radiant birch
"TRAINING BEGINS NOW!!" [punch]
Like how old Monster Hunter games' idea of "training" was a live arena fight. But even those gave you a minute beforehand to sort out the basic controls
serene kettle
Unironically yes, you're thrown into a fight with two MTs (and note, they're not the dies-in-one-hit BAWS light MTs AC6 throws you at the beginning, it's a pair of Storks that can take a few sword hits and use jumpjets for mobility) and just told "hey good luck, try to survive at least two minutes" while you're desperately trying to figure out what the controls are
radiant birch
So I have heard
I have not played AC1 myself but Josh Strife Hayes' video on it was an enjoyable watch
solar sinew
I have not played AC1 myself but Josh Strife Hayes' video on it was an enjoyable...
He did an AC1 video? Time to watch that
I didnt know how played any of the ACs
radiant birch
yeah he did a "Was It Good" video for AC1, i think right before AC6 came out?
(spoiler: it was, some predictable jank aside, good)
solar sinew
I did completely lose track of this, but I do have it open now. Fuck yes.
I need someone to talk AC at me while I try desperately to make sense of my players latest fuckery
feral niche
Do you think a Next would do fine in the Destiny universe?
feral niche
So I never thought about it until one of you all pointed it out, Rummy is probably not just a hard drug addict who managed to just happen to cobble together shit in RaD. He really is a wiz with tech like alot of the other RaD people, it's just... when he is dosing, he's fucking insane.
I actually really like that.
I honestly have a headcanon that he's not actually part of ||Overseer (I assume a lot of them are since it was mention when Carla joined she brought a chunk of people with her)|| and was actually one of the original RaD guys.
hasty dock
@royal atlas i forgot about the C Weapons lowkey uhhhh
royal atlas
lol its all good
polar osprey
pretty sure i did that mission with the Chang Chen machine guns and the starter rocket pods
polar osprey
machine guns, some quick rockets, RJ's, you're good to go
bob's your uncle as they say
hasty dock
i remember brute forcing the entire thing with ARs and missiles with one of my left hands being a melee xd
winter sigil
i beat that one original playthrough with a lightweight rj (dual turners, 4cell missile, pulse blade) and s ranked with a heavy flamethrower tetra
royal atlas
i remember brute forcing the entire thing with ARs and missiles with one of my l...
the closest I've ever gotten was with the lance
polar osprey
pretty sure i was still just using Pale Painter
royal atlas
i also run into ammo issues
eager vector
What mission?
polar osprey
beat like everything in the game except the final final boss with Pale Painter really
royal atlas
What mission?
escorting the digging machine
royal atlas
you're psychotic but I love the energy
the whole fight just kinda feels overtuned in a bad way and this is just me coping because I'm bad
hasty dock
so youre getting cooked by the wheels or the mts?
royal atlas
so youre getting cooked by the wheels or the mts?
i get through the helianthus machines the mts are eating me alive
they're faster than my fastest mech and more heavily armored than the most heavy mechs ]
its bullshit and I'm frustrated
royal atlas
thats very fair
i can get good eventually
the issue is I can make a mech to counter weevils but it gets eaten by the wheels
hasty dock
insert take a break meme
royal atlas
they're synergistic in a terrible way
hasty dock
it always works
novel hemlock
Problem with wheel skeletons? Songbirds are your friends
hasty dock
a single bad cook can take care of the Helianthus' tbh
modern hornet
honestly? WEEVILs are just a skill check i cant lie
Skill check or missile fodder if you’re a casual shitter like me
hasty dock
they crumple like wet paper to a flame thrower
polar osprey
ngl i did not switch off the starter missile's for the entire game
the only change i made was to add a second one since the starter mech doesn't have two
hasty dock
i would never try to melee a WEEVIL though despite an ACS break just grab some long range punish weapon
serene kettle
I S-ranked that mission more or less by accident with Queen of Nails
royal atlas
i am writing all of this down
winter sigil
starter missile is so awesome
serene kettle
just bunnyhopping and spamming APERTIFs did work
royal atlas
i got all this way with the starter melee weapon
polar osprey
the starter missiles are fast, reliable and do good damage
royal atlas
so i can adapt I suppose
winter sigil
i would never try to melee a WEEVIL though despite an ACS break just grab some l...
weak aura i'm sorry
polar osprey
also decent stagger
hasty dock
yeah the one advice global for Escort the Mining Ship is going vertical is king
serene kettle
Starter Melee weapon is an incredible piece of kit
winter sigil
pulse blade 💪 💪
hasty dock
weak aura i'm sorry
"i would never" as in i advise not you youre talking to a pure melee runner here
modern hornet
When I know I can’t get out of facing saw-wheels or WEEVILs, I just pack on dual Hand Missiles and the 10-cells and just go ham
winter sigil
okay fair enough
hasty dock
i have a few screenshots of pvp with a friend and their screen is 90% of the time just covered in moonlight
winter sigil
lmao
polar osprey
i should try killing those guys with Nuclear Whiplash
quasi copper
starter blade might be the best blade in the game
polar osprey
funny challenge run
quasi copper
the competition is like
serene kettle
here's my original queen of nails build. Later I swapped earshot for Truenos when I unlocked them but this is what I would have been using for that mission
quasi copper
rubicon handshake (hehe funny) and the beam swords (barely melee weapons)
royal atlas
i feel like if I showed off my build I'd get laughed at
serene kettle
Just bunnyhop and things go boom
hasty dock
Plasma Thrower is an amazing melee
hasty dock
honestly PT might be the best if youre playing Quad/Tread
serene kettle
Queen of Nails is also the build my friends complained about in PVP
quasi copper
it's a Gundam Hammer as well
serene kettle
"play something else Jane, this is demoralizing"
winter sigil
yknow while we're all here any casuallobbyheads
quasi copper
here's my original queen of nails build. Later I swapped earshot for Truenos whe...
I dig the Apertifs, my pvp build was double Apertifs / double Deez Nuts when the game first came out
polar osprey
i'm boring as fuck so i only did Pale Painter
hasty dock
ive lost my save file and havent mustered the energy to finish NG++ in like a year xd
royal atlas
i miss my One Wing build
i miss the hand pistols being crazy
quasi copper
I think I swapped to Apertifs / laserdagger/spike launcher at some point on that build
hasty dock
i love my EN weapons but holy fuck can you not use any EN weapons throughout the story with the ammo eco
serene kettle
I did an entirely new build for each NG cycle and also a bunch of pvp builds for messing with my friends
polar osprey
what can i say the combination of machine guns and quick rockets appeals to me
it's quick, it's easy, it does a lot of damage
quasi copper
did spike launcher ever become a useable weapon
hasty dock
fucking love KW in AC6 but its so bad for coam and ammo xd
polar osprey
it's a boring but solid middle of the road kit
serene kettle
i love my EN weapons but holy fuck can you not use any EN weapons throughout the...
Heartily disagree, the Ch1 LRs are amazing and I used them as my primary damage tool for my NG+ build
hasty dock
the physical missile launcher? its always been an alright punish weapon
serene kettle
the shoulder mounted Ch1 LCs are also really good
hasty dock
Heartily disagree, the Ch1 LRs are _amazing_ and I used them as my primary damag...
more thinking of the laser rifles and pistols
laser cannons are solid
hasty dock
but using plasma in actual story missions? yeah right
quasi copper
see the thing about the spike missiles being good at killing stunned ACs is uh
you know what else kills stunned ACs and goes on your back
Deez Nuts (stun needles)
winter sigil
laser "rifle"
looks inside
smoothbore
hasty dock
stun needles are instant -1000 aura tho
hasty dock
yeah the 2 starter rifles are fine i shouldve specifies plasma weapons my bad
plasma is ass as a primary weapon imo in the story
polar osprey
Cost&Benefit was probably my most stupid build
serene kettle
FASAN (the plasma cannon) is really good but comes late
polar osprey
Slow Cooker was also fucking stupid
serene kettle
I did use the VVC plasma rifle on my first playthrough win but it was mostly a support tool used for killing MTs efficiently
hasty dock
actually i should once again preface i havent played through AC6 since its release months so maybe they buffed the ammo?
ill find out sooner or later ig i am replaying to get my save file back up
serene kettle
this was my playthrough 1 build
hasty dock
but yeah uh the original point of this
@royal atlas build around the WEEVILs and bring ONE(1) singular Bad Cook
If I can do Escort the Mining Ship on a medium biped you can do it with anything better I believe in you
a medium biped pre buff to like every medium biped leg
cursive agate
I had good results from GLs/Bazookas when I could get solid shots off, though getting a lock can be rough.
hasty dock
god that makes me remember medium biped builds having like 9k AP pre buff
if you didnt love me at my 9k AP you dont deserve me at my 12k AP
feral niche
Anyone made a mod where you can have shoulder weapons on arms?
winter sigil
i have been testing something very funny
inland sluice
I use a frame like this pretty much all the time
Swapping out arms based on the weapons I use
eager vector
i have been testing something very funny
I recommend arms with better melee spec
winter sigil
the melee spec isn't the point
melee went on at the end because i wanted a bit o extra damage
it can comfortably S-rank Allmind and that's my benchie
eager vector
the melee spec isn't the point
is it a fashion choice?
eager vector
well you can do a lot more melee damage without sacrificing any gun performance if you want to
but you don’t have to if you don’t want to
winter sigil
i switched it to the VP arms after that picture for a couple reasons but no, you can't actually switch off those arms without sacrificing firearms spec
eager vector
i switched it to the VP arms after that picture for a couple reasons but no, you...
true, but you can sacrifice some firearms spec without sacrificing any actual performance with your firearms
besides, the stat you really want for accuracy with dual handguns is recoil control
winter sigil
i have the heart of a cowboy i can control my own recoil
feral niche
Too bad no Mech Revolvers.
jade ginkgo
revolvers are (for now) stuck in 4th gen
late jay
RIP Raleigh enjoyers
feral niche
Imagine unloading some revolvers and then using the 'Weight Control' OS tuning to purge them when out of ammo before pulling out another pair.
solar sinew
My players loving rendition.
And their wonderful attempt at making sense of what the FUCK the Coral is
polar osprey
Smail
solar sinew
Smail
feral niche
I thought it was smile until I realized it was Snail, only just realized that is in fact an m and not an n.
I can't wait for the story reveal to be Snoop Dogg is secretly behind everything and the Vascular Plant is just the ultimate Blunt.
Ultimate dosing.
serene kettle
Leave it to Invincible Rummy
jade ginkgo
eh he did turn out quite vincible during the mission...
serene kettle
He was gonna get back up, 621 just moved on
feral niche
Well, Invincible Rummy doesn't actually die, it's just Mad Stomp can't withstand his sheer power and so it dies when it is killed.
(Ejecto seato cuz.)
paper ferry
V.I Freud set 👀
paper ferry
I like how his AC uses Melander parts
feral niche
I like how he’s unaugmented yet keeps up with both AI and augmented pilot craft.
paper ferry
He's just that good
I'd like to eventually get enough of the sets to make my two fav custom ACs
modern hornet
I like how his AC uses Melander parts
Honestly same, and also the fact that the reason Locksmith is 50% Balam parts is simply because Freud just does not give a single flying fuck about brand loyalty. He just wants to make the perfect AC to handle whatever mission he's assigned, and cherry-picks what he percieves to be the best parts from both sides of the corporate rivalry do it.
paper ferry
It's called making an investment
modern hornet
Also love how Freud and Dolmiyan are proof of how good the starter weapons can be in the right hands. Rank 1 and Rank 4 in the arena, and they use the TURNER and Pulse Blade, respectively, as part of their kits.
paper ferry
I wanna know how Dolmayan got his hands on a Coral generator
modern hornet
Dolmayan's a Cinder. Probably knew exactly where to look to try finding an intact AORTA generator.
solar sinew
Also, the Pulse Blade can absolutely carry you through the whole game
I can even carry you to all S-Ranks. Source: Hi
I love that thing
Its so much more agile than the Pile bunker while largely putting out very respectable damage
paper ferry
And it's an easy and cost-efficient way to deal with shields
feral niche
Chainsaw…
paper ferry
Though there's nothing like deleting an enemy AC's pulse armor with an assault armor charge
solar sinew
*Chainsaw…*
Ill begrudgingly use it for some mobs, but its just not the same vibe
solar sinew
And it's an easy and cost-efficient way to deal with shields
Amen to that. Shields? Please, be my guest, see how long those last.
feral niche
I like chainsaws a lot, but it is very rough to handle.
solar sinew
I like chainsaws a lot, but it is very rough to handle.
I feel the same way about the Pilebunker tbh. Its a stupidly cool weapon, but man, I cannot for the life of me land a hit with it.
Ill be sitting in Snailtheus' lap with him stunned and somehow Ill still find a way to whiff it
feral niche
My friend struggled with it in the beginning too.
So it’s definitely a difficult weapon to learn, and when they got the Moonlight they switched to it.
serene kettle
The Chainsaw isn't good per se but it is fun
feral niche
Yah.
serene kettle
Snailteus is fucking impossible not to whiff the chainsaw on though
solar sinew
Its really hard not to overshoot the thing. You want to be so close before actually stunning the enemy, but with how my QB settings are set to "cross to a different zip code at mach speed with every QB", I cannot land in front of something without the stars aligning. Skill issue, I know
solar sinew
Snailteus is fucking impossible not to whiff the chainsaw on though
His hitbox is such a fucking nightmare
serene kettle
That's the one boss I haven't managed to do with my chainsaw meme build
everything else, yes
but Snailteus it doesn't connect
solar sinew
Same thing for Pilebunker, yeah
feral niche
The Chainsaw isn't good per se but it is _fun_
It makes sense why a drug addiction with a sense of divinity uses it.
solar sinew
I dont know how to connect anything that doesnt have its own gapclose. Pulse/Coral blade, Laser Slicer and the likes, but man do they suck against Snailtheus' energy resistance. Coral excluded ofc
solar sinew
It makes sense why a drug addiction with a sense of divinity uses it.
100%
serene kettle
Rummy's build is funny because he's using basically the worst possible arms for melee
maybe worst possible arms in general, Wrecker arms are real bad
But they have the lowest melee spec in the game at 13
solar sinew
Rummy really is in it for the love of the game, not to win. Its a surprisingly earnest attitude to find in the game
serene kettle
connecting with the chainsaw is rough no matter what but at least if you stick it on Basho Arms it does good damage
inland sluice
I like the edit that replaces ||Walter with rummy in that one ending I forgot the name||
serene kettle
lmao yes
paper ferry
lol
serene kettle
that was so good
solar sinew
One of my great joys in Lancer is trying to figure out how Rummy, formally a Berserker, managed to somehow lose his arena match against two Scouts.
And also why he has the IV tag in this wtf
feral niche
It makes sense why a drug addiction with a sense of divinity uses it.
His choice of the Sweet Sixteen, not as understandable bar he probably made it
solar sinew
He very likely did yeah
feral niche
And also why he has the IV tag in this wtf
Beware.
solar sinew
Last I checked Rummy didnt work for Rusty lol. He mustve mugged Pepper for his tag (Its been fixed)
feral niche
He very likely did yeah
Using the initialed part theory anyway.
feral niche
Make him actually awesome, lol.
He slams in like the C-Spider, obliterating an objective.
serene kettle
One of my great joys in Lancer is trying to figure out how Rummy, formally a Ber...
improvised attack and he whiffs to dataveil? 😛
solar sinew
improvised attack and he whiffs to dataveil? 😛
Something like this xD
solar sinew
Make him actually awesome, lol.
My palyers dont know AC6, so I can play the "invincible" character straight. They just came off of a Balam/PCA battlefield with Arquebus' curiosity, and discovered that someone is setting them up to die a terrible death at the Strider. They need a break xD
feral niche
Damn, hehe.
serene kettle
leave it to Invincible Rummy
feral niche
I don’t really remember your party’s allegiance, am assuming though that Rummy is probably an introduction to RaD like in the game.
solar sinew
It is, yeah
My party is a bunch of mercs with varying loyalties. They nearly tossed away plans to one of ALLMINDs factories because they wanted Iguazu dead THAT much without seeing the irony
feral niche
Heh.
polar osprey
I like the edit that replaces ||Walter with rummy in that one ending I forgot th...
LEAVE IT TO INVINCIBLE RUMMY
serene kettle
the bit where someone edited his line after the dam into an xbox live message kills me every time
it's just so accurate
solar sinew
the bit where someone edited his line after the dam into an xbox live message ki...
Yes. Was it you who sent it here? Comedy gold
serene kettle
might have been though I don't know where it came from originally
feral niche
I wish Rummy had more parts listed under his name, after all he supposedly only has the Sweet Sixteen, Attaché, and Delivery Boy.
solar sinew
And Attaché wasnt even part of the base game I believe
serene kettle
if it were in the base game, Attache would probably suit rummy's build better than his actual loadout
the wrecker arms are bad but they do have very high recoil control which is totally irrelevant to a chainsaw and shotgun build but would help a bit with gatling accuracy
feral niche
He has 2 arm weapons and a shoulder weapon and yet he has no shoulder weapons on his mech.
cursive agate
I think the uncharged jab of Pilebunker is one of the big hurdles keeping me from using it more. It's a small hitbox with aprox the same cooldown as the charge.
jade ginkgo
warning for anyone playing ranked teams: me + couple of friends are invading the queue by roleplaying as MT's
serene kettle
lol
feral niche
Hehe.
serene kettle
I got my pilebunker appreciation in Verdict Day
jade ginkgo
warning for anyone playing ranked teams: me + couple of friends are invading the...
featuring the Wallclimber railgun build
serene kettle
where the uncharged mode was basically their only function and they had limited ammo
but the damage was awesome. My Verdict Day build, Yellowjacket, was basically a light RJ zoomy boy with the equivalent of ducketts as main weapons and a pair of pilebunkers in the bay slots
for the Sting
I beat N-WGIX with it so it definitely wasn't bad lol
feral niche
featuring the Wallclimber railgun build
It seems we are fated to fight (not actually, don’t have AC6) since I like RaD.
jade ginkgo
It seems we are fated to fight (not actually, don’t have AC6) since I like RaD.
dont worry this is only a joke
be not afraid
feral niche
Ah ok.
feral niche
I still think Rummy is pre-takeover RaD, or I like to think so.
Think there are giant armored trains on Rubicon?
paper ferry
Think there are giant armored trains on Rubicon?
I think so. There's some infrastructure links between the grids.
And there are rails all throughout Grid 086
paper ferry
Train heist mission when?
feral niche
Boosting up alongside the train and hacking open a doorway on the side.
solar sinew
Hm. Part of me wishes Id have gone for armored trains now instead of sending the RLF underground
paper ferry
Or dropping in on an overlooking cliff and assault boosting to catch it and land on top
Hacking a door and fighting in close quarters until you make your way to the front
solar sinew
Well, Im sure Arquebus has some weird ships that could make a good train replacement in a pinch
feral niche
Hm. Part of me wishes Id have gone for armored trains now instead of sending the...
Nah, this allows for tunnel fighting which is fun.
paper ferry
Or they could commandeer and maybe upgrade some existing infrastructure for their needs, which we see them do plenty of times.
feral niche
I think the trains would have to be big and heavily guarded tbh, otherwise it feels too easy to stop and steal from them.
paper ferry
Lots of turrets and stuff on the outside like the STRIDER
solar sinew
Or they could commandeer and maybe upgrade some existing infrastructure for thei...
Yeah, I think thats what theyre trying to do to lock down ALLMINDs Ghosts for uhh live dissection? Itll be a sad day
paper ferry
I'm sure you could make an Arquebus train work
Put a low-ranking Vesper in there as a boss
solar sinew
Hm, yeah, solid idea. The only one currently unaccounted for is Hawkins, which would track
paper ferry
They're complaining about being stuck in a "lowly locomotive"
solar sinew
Sold.
solar sinew
First theyll have to survive Grid 86 and Escort the Strider with Rustys squad on their ass
feral niche
Just blow the tracks up (it’s not that easy).
paper ferry
The maglev technology repels bullets idk
solar sinew
~~Put Swinburne in there~~
Swinburne is the correct choice for such a mission, yeah. There was a prisoner convoy that played a large role, and Arquebus still has Ziyi in their hand. Im sure Rokumonsen would have thoughts about her being ferried off in a train
paper ferry
Not Ziyi! Save her!
solar sinew
that being said, one of my players wants to raid the Wall (again) and they have the majority of the Vespers accounted for. We will see xD
solar sinew
Not Ziyi! Save her!
They were the ones who first captured her for Balam and THEN sold her to Arquebus :')
paper ferry
O O F
solar sinew
Big oof
paper ferry
I need to know your party comp
solar sinew
This campaign is a fucking comedy if you look at it from the outside
solar sinew
I need to know your party comp
Hydra, Swallowtail, Monarch/Viceroy
solar sinew
Yeah, theyre punching far above their weight class
solar sinew
Arquebus is definitely using SSC mechs
I have a full overview yeah
feral niche
Did they do anything with that experimental coral tech they got yet?
solar sinew
The Horus mechs were originally exclusive to the PCA, but given they actually need to source their parts, I didnt want to lock a whole manufacturer away
paper ferry
Ooh I love
solar sinew
Did they do anything with that experimental coral tech they got yet?
Theyre terrified of the thing exploding, to be honest. They havent been back in base in a few sessions, but they did meet my TTRPG equivalent to Ayre, and one of them traded the memory of her parents for in depth knowledge about what happened before the Fires, so shes familiar with Nagai and Carla.
They also found their first C-Weapon. Im sure they have a few ideas, but currently they are very aware of the targets on their back and trying to fly under the radar, and a coral generator is not exactly low key
feral niche
Accidentally create a new autonomous C-Weapon they should.
solar sinew
yeeeeah
Last I heard they wanted to use it as bait for ALLMIND
Not that they know just what fish theyre trying to bait just yet
How many times can you say "The system has no information" and "Seems someone has wiped the system" without your players looking at the system with a critical eye? Dunno, Im sitting at 6 and counting xD
solar sinew
Oh good god, I did not consider that yet
Oh well. Fuck if I know whats going on with these guys. One of them had a fucking crisis when he realized that he nearly threw the mission to kill Iguazu and later realizes he really feels for the guy and would like him to have a better ending than inevitably being murdered by the party.
If they somehow play nice with Iguazu, Ill have to improvise, I guess. Cant really say if theyre gonna shoot him or kiss him the next time theyll see him at the present
All I know is that they deeply mistrust Rusty because, quote "If he were just being nice to warn us about Arquebus, hed have been nicer and gone into detail" lmao
feral niche
Lol.
solar sinew
Rusty is having a very weird month at the office xD
paper ferry
So wait, do the Vespers actually have office jobs, or is that a headcanon?
paper ferry
Snail is the only one who has an office
He has a framed photograph of himself on the wall
solar sinew
Yeah, and my players have a bug in there. Its a source of great enjoyment
solar sinew
He has a framed photograph of himself on the wall
100%
paper ferry
I imagine that aside from the schemes and plots, Snail is the dullest person alive
The man probably thinks saltines are spicy
solar sinew
I would agree, if watching him chasing shadows wasnt so damn funny
He knows theres a spy in his ranks now, for reference
paper ferry
"Days since Snail's last migraine" counter
solar sinew
now theres an addition to the landing page
Given we are lacking information on here xD
paper ferry
Oh well. Fuck if I know whats going on with these guys. One of them had a fuckin...
Can't wait until they find out that Rusty really is a good guy
If they don't kill him first
paper ferry
The Horus mechs were originally exclusive to the PCA, but given they actually ne...
I'm surprised the Drake isn't under Balam
solar sinew
I'm surprised the Drake isn't under Balam
Mainly because Balam has a ton of them. On second though though yeah, Lancaster and Drake should probably be swapped
paper ferry
Lancaster is def an RaD mech
solar sinew
Can't wait until they find out that Rusty really is a good guy
Well, they keep paying lip service to the RLF, but the path of least resistance IS hurting them more often than not. Rusty might not stay a good guy in their timeline xD
paper ferry
"Dominance through material superiority" is definitely the mech with a bullet hose
paper ferry
Fair
paper ferry
Well, they keep paying lip service to the RLF, but the path of least resistance ...
I can see how he would view the players like how he sees 621 as not having a real purpose
solar sinew
I can see how he would view the players like how he sees 621 as not having a rea...
Yeah, he does at the moment. They warned the RLF Arquebus was gonna attack the Wall before Rusty got the chance, but they keep following the money. He cant quite get a read on them right now and the fact they left him on read after his warning wasnt really a point in their favor either
But eh, Rusty has time, they are spending much more time with his squad than with him and thats kinda fine by me
paper ferry
He'll get to show off his Gundam at some point
solar sinew
Our Hydra actually saw some of the schematics for it already, though she doesnt know what it is of course
Itll be a funny moment for the future
feral niche
Reverse Engineer the coral lasers on the drones…
solar sinew
The generator and drones they have are from CEL 240s predecessor. The Hydra could be CEL 240
feral niche
Feed Rummy RRI tech on the side while he’s dosing and see what fucked up shit he comes up with.
solar sinew
Ill see if he survives meeting the players
They did evade his notice, I doubt theyll evade Carla for long
solar sinew
Theres a non-zero chance they make the connection between Carla and the Carla who worked for Nagai and decide to just torch the Grid. Why? Dunno. Despite their own very varied relations to the Coral, they dont think highly of the Dosers
solar sinew
https://tenor.com/view/uranium-fuel-rods-power-plant-workers-gif-25292733
I want Rummy to mess with RRI tech so badly
If they play nice with Carla, I can absolutely see her decode ALLMINDs stuff for them and teach our Hydra to do the same, but its damn rough to predict how theyll react to anyone but Iguazu
feral niche
Rummy ending up as the new final boss would make me die laughing.
solar sinew
All I want from this campaign is an ending that ideally solves the Rubicon Problem AND lets Rusty live. Blatant GM favoritism? Yes. Will I hesitate to shoot him in the head because of it? No, if anything it puts him at more risk
Rummy as the final boss when my players bleeding hearts try and pull Iguazu out of the line of fire?
Priceless.
feral niche
‘Me and MAD STOMP can’t be beat!’
As it looks like some crazy hack job of both RaD and RRI tech.
solar sinew
Possibly supported by one of the custom C-weapons I wrote.
Showdown on a dying ship, highlighted by fucking foglights xD
feral niche
What ending would Rummy be in front of?
solar sinew
Well, its a TTRPG campaign, so we only get one. Liberator and Alea look like theyre still plausible without much alteration, but Fires would need some tweaking, given I havent actually committed to the Handlers side of things yet and my players have some really cool ideas that I want to let them figure out instead of just returning to the game script
Rummy would probbaly be in that revised Fires ending, if Carla/Branch have to pull more weight
feral niche
Fair, honestly was curious as to what homebrew ending you could come up with.
solar sinew
Im really looking forward to it! The thing my table knows is that I have a projection for what different factions will do without player intervention and they are requested to mess with that. So I dont know what the ending will look like
Currently theres a non-zero chance Iguazu will take a bullet for one of my players when Rustys guys shoot at them in the next few sessions
Which is.. very odd
feral niche
Fair enough.
solar sinew
I would personally really like an ending that defeats ALLMIND and knowing my players they will recruit some NPCs along. Would love that to be Rusty, but my expectations are low
feral niche
‘Hey, we plan on remaking C-Weapons using a different fuel source.’
solar sinew
Sounds dope, lets do it xD
The RLF is sure to have a collective anyeurism by the time this party is through with them
solar sinew
What may amuse you - One of my players went through every conversation he ever had over the "phone", not because he suspected he may be listened to, but because he now has evidence of someone impersonating people. Which is his main point of contention with Rusty.
solar sinew
I am thinking of this entirely from AC’s perspective rather than Lancer.
oh me too
I will value the narrative here over the system, Lancer already doesnt love this reflavor, Im sure we can bend it a little further without breaking it
feral niche
Just realized something.
solar sinew
aye?
feral niche
Little busy, gimme a tad.
solar sinew
Take your time
feral niche
Why is there so little info on AC6’s Oceans?
solar sinew
Presumably because theres a big sign on it that says "do not cross"
they named one the Alean Ocean and the PCA goes on a warpath the moment you cross it
No points for subtlety
that being said, yeah, there is no info on it. What made you realize or what idea do you have?
feral niche
Water machinery.
solar sinew
My version of the Wall uses subterranean water streams to cool their generators
feral niche
Maybe aquatic RRI tech.
solar sinew
Other than that, best I can do is some ideas I tossed regarding some leviathans for the requested fishing episode, and a light house-style aquatic C-weapon that was turned into a dragonfly instead
feral niche
Fair, like that last one.
solar sinew
My players did too. The idea behind it was that it was made to guide people through Rubicons blizzards and scout through my headcanon Coral Storms without breaking. They record environmental changes, and can get a read on coral surges
feral niche
Hehe, Eldritch Coral Lighthouse section.
solar sinew
yep
This one is still under PCA control, so my players werent super impressed. The idea was to have it interact similarly to how the Iceworm did during the Spaceport missions, but my players managed to crossfire it with both a PCA and a Balam canon lol
feral niche
My players did too. The idea behind it was that it was *made* to guide people th...
Sounds like good Sensor tech to scavenge…
solar sinew
Oh yeah
They didnt destroy it unfortunately, otherwise Id have been happy to give them extra stuff on it
They were a tad spooked by the Elite Cataphract putting Rusty to shame with its movement
solar sinew
Fair, honestly was curious as to what homebrew ending you could come up with.
In case you are curious about what theyre currently doing. Canon Kate Marksen is still a thing and still around, I just figured "what if she was a person before ALLMIND used her as an alias"
feral niche
Interesting piece.
I wonder if she was an AC Pilot at all.
And if so, what her AC was like, if it was Transcriber or a whole other machine.
solar sinew
I keep her as an independent merc who infiltrated the PCA on behalf of her employer until she went rogue
Kate Marksen discovered ALLMIND, tried to get the word out and ALLMIND made sure she wouldnt be a threat
As for her AC - Good question. I dont think it was Transcriber, given this version of her is not the same person
feral niche
Good to know.
Oh, small question, would you make Rummy eternally dosing or how else would you write him?
solar sinew
I think the interesting question to ask with him is whether hes augmented. If hes also a low gen, then his delusions may be a product of that in addition to the Coral. Which, given he has a reputation with the other gangs he well may be.
that being said, his arena entry does specify he is "perpetually addled"
solar sinew
Of course, I dont think messing with the technologically inclined alien lifeform while trying to do tech things is that bad an idea tbh xD
solar sinew
Somehow it was ALLMIND telling them Well done that set off one of my players. First Rusty, now this. What the hell xD
feral niche
Now they are suspicious of the AI that's supposed to be friendly to you?
solar sinew
One of them is
Im telling you now, theyll meet Carla and shoot her in the face the moment she cracks a joke
feral niche
Lmao!
solar sinew
Theyre so twitchy and nothing has really bitten them yet
feral niche
'He'll turn red any second now... See, Red! No wait that's blood...'
Do you think there is coral in the oceans like there is in groundwater?
solar sinew
Do you think there is coral in the oceans like there is in groundwater?
Almost certainly, yeah. The logs mention Coral in the water of Gallia Dam and that has to come from somewhere. If theres Coral in the groundwater theres no reason for the oceans to be clean
feral niche
Do they clean water to drink? I assume not since they eat coral tained mealworms.
solar sinew
Do they clean water to drink? I assume not since they eat coral tained mealworms...
Assuming the oceans are salt water, theyd have to treat that at least.
And to be fair, I wouldnt drink any of the aater on Rubicon with all the shit the corps are throwing about. I reckon thats all treated, even if not against the Coral, but thats pure speculation
feral niche
Fair, I was just trying to imagine the cool things you could do with 'coral filters'.
They fought a Helianthus yet? I assume not.
solar sinew
They fought a Helianthus yet? I assume not.
Nah, Im still deciding whether to field them when they get to the Strider, or do do an alternative
feral niche
I still find it funny the C-MTs straight up kick the world out of you.
solar sinew
I still find it funny the C-MTs straight up kick the world out of you.
I still dont know where the fuck ALLMIND dug them out. Aside from the Helianthus in Read the Convergence, we just.. never see either of them again xD
ALLMIND just doesnt attack us with them again, they never show up again to my understanding
Hence why Im so inclined to just change the encounter to an actual escort, I dont really get that plot point beyond ALLMINDs broad intentions with it
feral niche
I mean she gets ||C-Spiders in that ending||.
solar sinew
I mean she gets ||***C-Spiders*** in that ending||.
She does, thats true
feral niche
Sometimes I feel the need to spoil things and sometimes I don't.
feral niche
According to this message from someone not even in the server anymore, spoil spoilers.
solar sinew
Either way. I guess it makes sense that she would unearth the RRIs relics.
Then again, I dont get the Seaspider either. Why is it in Grid 86? Whats its purpose now? Who knows
solar sinew
According to this message from someone not even in the server anymore, spoil spo...
oh boy
feral niche
Exactly.
feral niche
Snort.
10?!
feral niche
My friend from the future, do we get another AC game?
solar sinew
Yes.
feral niche
But no worries, I would be asleep by that time, and good.
Trying to fight the Helianthus machines anytime they show up.
(It's always next to a C-MT.)
solar sinew
Regrettably accurate
The fuckers are so fast with their kick too
I nearly dont have time to QB into a different zipcode lol
The current plan for the Strider is kinda up to them.
ALLMIND set them up to die in an explosion, but they found the bomb way beforehand. They found out theyre set up by someone who is supposed to be dead. Everything else is their problem now lmao
They have the mission, the RLF will be happy if they dont lose it, but it sure stinks to the heavens
solar sinew
I handed my players an encounter power type deal last sitrep and they asked the very understandable question of "why cant we keep this"
Now itd be easy to say "the PCA deactivates the stolen license code" or whatever. Thats how licenses work in Lancer lore iirc
Instead I let them keep it with a little note
Forgive my middle of the night prose, bullshitting Sci Fi is NOT one of my skillsets
feral niche
'They can follow you.'
solar sinew
You, keen knower of AC6 may see the catch
solar sinew
'They can follow you.'
"Someone is watching" is such a wonderful thing to toss at your players
This is the "Why is AI complimenting us" thing that set the Hydra off
feral niche
You, keen knower of AC6 may see the catch
Oh, idk, dying of G-forces is the big one.
But what would be the AC catch...
solar sinew
Well, thats just flavor
The catch is "Congratulations, ALLMIND is paying attention now"
feral niche
"Someone is watching" is such a wonderful thing to toss at your players
Imagine just casually explaining a situation or having a conversation with an NPC and just randomly throwing 'You're being watched/followed' in the middle of mundane conversation.
solar sinew
Imagine just casually explaining a situation or having a conversation with an NP...
I did that just two or three sessions ago.
One of my players was twitchy enough to have a gun in hand. Another was looking over her shoulder every few moments.
It was a bird. A fucking bird. Granted, big, coral-infused bird, but the reaction was priceless. They were still inclined to shoot it before following it across half a Grid xD
feral niche
Should have made it a pet.
solar sinew
They freed a whole flock of them from confinement underground, so theyll be around
feral niche
'Guess what happens when something not human experiences coral augmentation surgery.'
Horrors.
solar sinew
Gestures vaguely at the mealworms
My players kept expecting a physical change. Its a bigger bird, yeah, but the main difference to a regular, now extinct variant is the intelligence. Its a horror, but one that can absolutely be used by someone with little enough regard for ethics
feral niche
No, I meant the Cybernetic Coral Pulse Surgery Pilots went through, that coral augmentation surgery.
Hey... is that something they could trade memories for to figure out the process of?
solar sinew
Im open for suggestions, these birds used to be scouts and finders of coral deposits. The precursor to the Dragonfly, actually. The RLF used them for hunting and safe navigation of Grid 78. Im not sure if the birds are gonna find their way back to the RLF, keeping them in a back pocket for when my players are inevitably crossing Grid 78 feels pertinent
solar sinew
Hey... is that something they could trade memories for to figure out the process...
On paper, absolutely
feral niche
Hey... is that something they could trade memories for to figure out the process...
Granted I don't think any of your players would concieve of such an idea. Both because they have no need to figure it out, and because I don't imagine they are unethical enough to even attempt the high fail rate procedure even if they got the correct resources.
solar sinew
Eh, Im not sure theyd see a need to somehow augment a bird, yeah
feral niche
'Tell us the surgery.'
Gets Sulla's Gen 1 Surgery.
'You never specified which gen of coral augmentation surgery.'
solar sinew
Theres like a dozen birds about, statistics are not in their favor xD
feral niche
True.
solar sinew
I think Ill brood on the idea. I moved all the Act 3 onwards stuff to Eastern Belius, so the birds could absolutely be useful in buying my players an edge on the hunt for Institute City and some of the other shit on the Ice fields there
feral niche
Im open for suggestions, these birds used to be scouts and finders of coral depo...
Interesting. Imagine using these as spotters for artillery.
solar sinew
Yeah, thats more in line with what I had in mind
feral niche
Oh also just a quick note me and my friend noticed in Ocean Crossing. That first tank you try to get in that the C-Spider crushes, it's so far back and there is so much in the way, idk how it'd get so far forward.
solar sinew
I noticed that too
The next question is where the Seaspider came from
Given we are on top of the Grid
There isnt really anything above this, the mission says were in range of Orbital Lasers
that thing has no lore Im aware of. No intended purpose like the Iceworm being a drill, nor one like the Ibis weapons
For all we know, that thing attened a pinecone cosplay convention and hasnt looked back
feral niche
I mean it flies, but yeah.
We looked up to see where it comes from, and it pretty much drops from somewhere and starts bouncing off some metal before landing.
solar sinew
Sure it flies, but why keep it there? The PCA uses it as a defense, that much is clear, Im just confused as hell as to why its on Belius at all when all the others are off northwest
solar sinew
We looked up to see where it comes from, and it pretty much drops from somewhere...
More PCA mysteries
feral niche
I at one point though it was the satellite laser, before realizing it's not a satellite.
Anyway you should probably rest if that's even possible.
I am going to sleep in the next 20 minutes anyway.
solar sinew
godspeed
feral niche
"Rummy... we got this cool new thing for you to check out...~"
Takes him to BAWS Arsenal N2.
solar sinew
Oh god
Theres a criminal organisation all over Arsenal No 2 right now
Unrelated, am I the only one who hears Steel Haze's leitmotif in Fires of Rubicon?
feral niche
I am not a music person, so I could not help you there at all.
solar sinew
that bit around and after 2 minutes in Fires of Rubicon, where we get a bit of a chant going
feral niche
People hear these things I don't notice.
solar sinew
If you are bored tomorrow, listen to Fires of Rubicons last minute and tell me if it sounds like Steel Haze or if Im making this up
I think its Steel Hazes melody after around a minute, just faster
This might just be the Leitmotif of the game, but its hard to listen for for some reason
feral niche
Hard as in unejoyable?
feral niche
Ah, fair enough.
solar sinew
Ah yeah no, thats just the general leitmotif that I may just be interpreting into Steel Haze because Im tone deaf
Or maybe it there. I dont know. Steel Haze and I disagree with each other often enough
feral niche
Alright.
Deployable shelter system in AC... well yeah I guess there is that one shield.
serene kettle
And that person is middle flatwell
feral niche
Hah.
solar sinew
Wait, Flatwell gets these?
I never noticed, I usually shred him while Rusty shreds me lol
feral niche
Well, let's see...
solar sinew
Ohh youre talking about the expansion
serene kettle
If you place it just right it can tank the suicide drones
solar sinew
I think we meant the actual physical energy shield you can pop down
feral niche
Yeah I was so confused since I got his build up.
solar sinew
I also checked it first and checked the shoulder mounts
I didnt even know Little Gem existed, I wonder if thats related to Ziyi at all
serene kettle
It’s actually pretty good but a bit more brain system turn on than most weapons
feral niche
solar sinew
It’s actually pretty good but a bit more brain system turn on than most weapons
Look, Im a pulseblade user in a paper frame. I dont have brain cells
cursive agate
Little Gem is a cool idea, but the stats are a struggle, and full bazooka recoil animation.
solar sinew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QowwpPEYhZU
I think this is the only time Ive seen this used anywhere. Granted, I dont PvP, I just watch the occasional clip
serene kettle
I just searched the name
feral niche
Forgive my middle of the night prose, bullshitting Sci Fi is NOT one of my skill...
I just realized, wait until they realize pulse tech can cancel out other pulse tech, how you do that mechanically idk.
Speeding in and either releasing an Assault Armor or having someone running a Pulse weapon.
solar sinew
I just realized, wait until they realize pulse tech can cancel out other pulse t...
We do it in narrative, mechanically we are, unfortunately, playing Lancer, so it isnt represented in combat as much
feral niche
Thought so.
Narratively, we reacted to an enemy assault armor with our own assault armor, mechanically nothing has happened.
Before I go to bed I am imagining a Rubicon/Coral themed Deck of Cards.
solar sinew
God, I want one. You just gave me something to ponder for the rest of the night, thank you
feral niche
I wanna say the Heart is the Vascular Plant, but that's complicated so probably a simpler symbol that represents coral.
feral niche
I mean there's normal card suites in the emblems.
feral niche
Rubicon Major Arcana could be fun
The Tower, Vascular Plant, tells of Destruction, Fires of Raven.
feral niche
Have fun, I sleep now.
Man, telling the Rubiconian's pre-Fires of Ibis that the Vascular Plant symbolizes destruction, they'd laugh.
solar sinew
Bittersweet now
paper ferry
https://tenor.com/view/uranium-fuel-rods-power-plant-workers-gif-25292733
You wouldn’t die from the radiation. You’d die from gunshot wounds before you got the chance.
paper ferry
feral niche
You wouldn’t die from the radiation. You’d die from gunshot wounds before you g...
So I have since learned.
feral niche
https://www.tumblr.com/timmie15/803676942843920384/i-may-post-a-bit-rarely-these...
Lol, I'm sending this to my friend Rusty.
paper ferry
Got these for Christmas! Finally get to complete my Loader 4 set!
late jay
Hell yea
feral niche
Awesome.
wet shard
Got these for Christmas! Finally get to complete my Loader 4 set!
I just finished my nightfall raven
Weapons tomorrow
feral niche
Awesome.
paper ferry
feral niche
Awesome.
paper ferry
feral niche
Wonderful.
solar sinew
My Hydra really is asking for horrible things xD
feral niche
What a selection.
solar sinew
said Hydra is about to adopt one of ALLMINDs drones as her own. God this campaign is a gift that keeps on giving
feral niche
Heh.
paper ferry
said Hydra is about to adopt one of ALLMINDs drones as her own. God this campaig...
These people are getting the absolute best introduction to Armored Core possible
solar sinew
These people are getting the absolute best introduction to Armored Core possible
I am beyond honoured to hear that
paper ferry
Can’t wait for them to eventually play the actual game with all the plot points from the campaign in their head
solar sinew
Hell yeah. One of them will, I dont think the others will.
Itll be a hilarious mix of "what do you mean X was canon" and "wait, that mission wasnt in the game" all the way to "That is NOT the context we got for this mission at ALL"
I live in fear of them running into ALLMIND in the wild, every other "plot twist" Im happy to let go. Sorry Rusty, they chose Iguazu over you
paper ferry
Honestly, Iguazu just needs a real friend
solar sinew
Yeah
paper ferry
RIP Volta
solar sinew
Theres a nonzero chance he gets to survive the campaign
Rip Volta indeed
Theres a chance for G13 to get there, given hes the brother of one of the PCs, and another of the PCs has been Iguazus not-quite-rival for the majority of the campaign. We will see
paper ferry
So are the players Walter’s hounds still?
solar sinew
I personally quite like Iguazu and I think I really caught the players off guard here or there with "why do I care about that asshole all of a sudden"
solar sinew
So are the players Walter’s hounds still?
Yesnt
I swapped Walter as a character, mostly to allow myself the option of keeping another plot line in the wings. I dont think his arc is super great for a TTRPG. Two of them are the Hounds of a handler, the third is bound to the crime lord in the region who rules over the Nest of independent mercs on Rubicon
paper ferry
I personally quite like Iguazu and I think I really caught the players off guard...
He’s grown on me as well. It’s a really important detail that he’s a Gen Four like 621 since it shows what would happen if 621 didn’t have the support of Ayre, Walter, and Carla and instead fell into the emotional withdrawal that is common in Gen Fours.
paper ferry
I swapped Walter as a character, mostly to allow myself the option of keeping an...
Interesting, I like that.
solar sinew
He’s grown on me as well. It’s a really important detail that he’s a Gen Four l...
Absolutely. The theme of being a good pilot who simply cannot compete with legends also isnt lost on me
Like, Iguazu isnt incompetent at all. Hes a pain to fight whenever he shows up, he has a good frame, and he knows how to be agressive. Hes got good will. On paper he has all the marks of a great pilot, but he lacks the support go go far, and even once he gets it thanks to ALLMIND, he sure is not a freak of nature.
Which is exactly what my players are, just like 621 is.
solar sinew
Interesting, I like that.
The third one is hunting Branch. They discovered what their deal was and learned about Kate Marksen in the last sessions. Its a good time
paper ferry
What is your take on Kate for the campaign?
solar sinew
She used to be an independent merc who infiltrated the PCA, found out about ALLMIND and was taken out before she could report back. My players found her findings.
From there she will be as we know her in game, ALLMIND already used her to send my players after the STRIDER, but they fifured out its a trap.
They are now suspicious of Rusty because they cant comprehend the concept of a nice Vesper lmao
paper ferry
Interesting
solar sinew
Kate is gonna be more foreshadowing for whoever ends up with ALLMIND at the end (and boy do I hope its Iguazu)
paper ferry
I always thought Kate Markson was just a Normal Human Name™ that ALLMIND came up with and TRANSCRIBER is just an AI-piloted AC.
solar sinew
Very likely true
paper ferry
Or alternatively, an independent merc who was one of the first to get absorbed into ALLMIND
solar sinew
Thats what she is here!
paper ferry
Cool!
Likewise, I like to think that Ayre was originally a human who didn’t survive Gen One augmentation, which is reflected in her aptitude for the mercenary lifestyle.
solar sinew
Thats an interesting theory
Ive booted Ayre from the campaign truth be told. The Coral is still around and my players have wildly different opinions on it, but I didnt want to have a voice with stupid amounts of intel be accessible to one or all of them at all times lul
paper ferry
Makes sense. Much more fun for them to find things out on their own.
solar sinew
Yep. Its not that they cant ask the Coral. They just have to pay a price for it
And dose to get there in the first place lol
paper ferry
I’m sure C-pulse wave mutations are an easy stand-in for NHPs in your game
solar sinew
They will be once my players finally decide to slot that coral generator lmao
Theyre so scared of Arquebus
paper ferry
Just press the big red button, it’ll be fine
solar sinew
Yeah. I did mention that itd put a target on their back, and for once they heard a warning and took it
Not like Snail needs reasons to hunt them down
paper ferry
Yet
solar sinew
Oh Snail has plenty of reasons
Especially if they somehow manage to escort the Strider
paper ferry
That would be such a great mission in Lancer
solar sinew
Rustys squad has been following them all of last session, but I havent made up my mind yet on whether theyll actually strike
solar sinew
That would be such a great mission in Lancer
It will be!
solar sinew
Rustys squad has been following them all of last session, but I havent made up m...
Mostly because they hid up in Grid 86 and are about to get their second encounter there, then possibly a third in one of ADDs outpost, and the fourth at the STRIDER.
Maybe Ill have them be ambushed them at the ADD outpost while theyre trying to defuse the bomb. I hear thats always useful
paper ferry
What LL are they at?
solar sinew
4 rn
They each have access to an exotic and I just handed them Assault boost as another SP option, theyre pretty powerful all in all, when they arent picking fights they make harder than necessary
Their first encounter was to escort a crate across a battlefield between PCA and Balam, Iguazu made an appearance, the PCA fielded a C-weapon, it was a whole thing that ate the Viceroys repairs, but theyre fresh otherwise
paper ferry
Nice nice
solar sinew
Tomorrow is gonna be an out of schedule session for two of them. Just a lovely train heist and some christmas shopping
paper ferry
Shopping for Swinburne’s ass
solar sinew
From what Im seeing right now, itll be the first thing theyll do after their Full Repairs
Two of them have business at the Wall, I wanna try that espionage sitrep, and they got intel that Swinburne is conveniently the only Vesper at the Wall right now, give or take one. They have the positions for all the other ones and left themselves with a partial success on an optional objective during Wallclimber they can now use to crawl back in.
Or they can use what theyll find on the heist. Or just shoot the whole place down. I dont really know or care, Im just along for the ride xD
paper ferry
The joys of being a GM and having very little stake in what happens
solar sinew
Yeah, genuinely. Its an eternal "sounds like a difficult problem, what are you gonna do about it" and watching their actions with great delight.
That last escort sitrep came down to the wire with Iguazus rival having the choice between either finishing the sitrep on the last player turn of the last round; of killing a structured, prone, exposed, immobilized Iguazu
Would I have been delighted in letting them kill Iguazu? Yes.
Would they have regretted giving up that crate with intel? Also yes
And I think that attitude is why that choice took a solid ten minutes to make lmao
paper ferry
I’ve never played
solar sinew
Hilarious
paper ferry
I have the book and I’ve fooled around on Comp/Con and even played Lancer Tactics all to learn the game, but I need to actually… play it
solar sinew
Theres an lfg somewhere on the server, no? No luck there?
paper ferry
There’s some people on another server I’m in who have played it and it’s a much smaller server, so I’m a bit closer to them than I would be to people here
serene kettle
It’s really more of a don’t call them they’ll call you sort of system
solar sinew
Eh, I see, thats rough
serene kettle
To avoid gms getting badgered
paper ferry
Because I’d like to play it with my irl friends but I want to truly experience the game before I do that
solar sinew
To avoid gms getting badgered
I get that. Its rough, I imagine there isnt a ton of Lancer GMs around?
serene kettle
Not compared to people who want to play around
solar sinew
Because I’d like to play it with my irl friends but I want to truly experience t...
No Lancer isnt always better than bad Lancer. I dont think my group wouldve played if I didnt drag them in and agreed to GM a system I hadnt played before
solar sinew
Not compared to people who want to play around
Not like Lancer is a super easy system to pick up and GM if you havent played. Especially if youre new to TTRPGs as a whole
serene kettle
I mostly play in person myself. I tried gming pbp but play by post is problematic with lancer, especially with new players
solar sinew
Pbp sounds like a nightmare for the system, yeah
Unless you somehow found a way to do all player turns simultaneously, and even then
serene kettle
We got through solstice rain and it was like pulling teeth
solar sinew
Mildly off topic for the channel I suppose, but Im curious how you made it through a full campaign with pbp. It does sound like an arduous process that takes longer than just weekly sessions do
paper ferry
I’m in the middle of a DnD campaign with my friends, so I’ll play lancer with them after that. I have the basic bones for the story mostly figured out.
solar sinew
Godspeed. Are you gonna drag them down the Armored Core in Lancer rabbit hole?
serene kettle
Mildly off topic for the channel I suppose, but Im curious how you made it throu...
Eh, 2 missions. 5 combats
It took weeks and i had to hassle people when they were online to get through a combat round within a couple of days
solar sinew
Eh, 2 missions. 5 combats
Maybe Im overestimating how long OSR is, my only reference point is peoples stories on here
serene kettle
It has 6 combats and one can be replaced by a narrative challenge (which was the route I took)
Ends right as the pcs hit ll2
solar sinew
Oh thats not bad at all. Still glacial at pbp I reckon. How long did it take you?
(As a sidenote, I am increasingly tempted to submerge tomorrows train heist underwater. Terrible idea, but the setting would be fun)
serene kettle
Oh thats not bad at all. Still glacial at pbp I reckon. How long did it take you...
A couple of months ish
It was a sprint and stressed people out though
feral niche
(As a sidenote, I am increasingly tempted to submerge tomorrows train heist unde...
The steam would be insane.
Also lorewise, unless you use some handwavium, you'd probably have to modify systems like the boosters to work with water lest they drown.
solar sinew
Also lorewise, unless you use some handwavium, you'd probably have to modify sys...
Its a narrative session, so were leaving the ACs at home. My players get extra time with their characters, I get to not prep a map and an opfor. How are they getting on the train/submarine? Dunno, sounds like something for them to figure out with the information given
solar sinew
It was a sprint and stressed people out though
I bet. Ive done written RP, but never actually played a TTRPG as a pbp. The math/die roll part sounds kind of tedious
paper ferry
Godspeed. Are you gonna drag them down the Armored Core in Lancer rabbit hole?
That would be a happy coincidence
But no lol, I’m doing my own story in the Lancer setting
A planet in the Dawnline Shore has recently been resettled after being abandoned after a long-ago SecCom engagement. The players are pilots hired by a joint HA/IPS-N operation to secure an area of interest. Their dropship gets shot down before they can deploy and they crash-land mostly unharmed. With no one around to give them orders, they must find resources and allies, but they must first respond to a distress call from locals at a nearby outpost.
feral niche
I misinterpreted drop ship as escape pod and was gonna ask how they got their mechs. Then I remembered what a drop ship is.
solar sinew
Train heist is well underway xD
feral niche
I sure don't know but I like paying attention to this campaign. Ah, this is the entire continent map, ok.
jade ginkgo
eh, the loot matters less, what matters is the experience
solar sinew
i appear to be out of the loop, whats the team stealing?
Theyre intercepting data Arquebus is sending north from one of their ADD outposts
Im not having much luck with actual difficulties, though xD
jade ginkgo
oh deer
solar sinew
Its a paralogue, so a more elaborate downtime action while we wait for the actual campaign to continue in January
They have yet to roll under a 20.
Arquebus was not ready.
solar sinew
Theyve all but taken over a train, knocked out all the guards through oxygen withdrawal and just escalated the matter of the datadrop being transported to Snail himself.
Fuck my heist anyway, this is their heist now
jade ginkgo
sometimes, you just gotta hand it to the players
solar sinew
Yeah, genuinely. Not like I can argue with the dice here xD
jade ginkgo
it would be unwise to argue with dice, seeing as they cant talk
feral niche
Their sending it straight to Snail?
solar sinew
Their sending it straight to Snail?
The dude carrying the data claimed to have Snails ear. The party essentially went "alright, bet, call him then" and I think hed rather fucking die lol
solar sinew
Theyll bring it back to their employer who will sell it to Balam
Well fuck me and any attempt at having the mark defend himself xD
paper ferry
Im not having much luck with actual difficulties, though xD
Man O'War is a great name for a Hydra
feral niche
Huh, now I'm wondering what the emblems all your party members have.
I presume they don't actually have some but I still am curious.
solar sinew
Huh, now I'm wondering what the emblems all your party members have.
Consider them a work in progress
feral niche
Got it.
solar sinew
"I want to give Iguazu a hug" and other sentences that left my players mouth today.
The fuck is going on, Iguazu wasnt even in this session
serene kettle
He could use a hug there too, but probably doesn't want one from 621
feral niche
True.
solar sinew
He could use a hug there too, but probably doesn't want one from 621
Believe me, he doesnt want one from my PCs either xD
solar sinew
Wait until they play AC and deal with Iguazu there.
They honestly experienced Iguazu as just as much if not more of a shithead than he is in the game. Im doing him no favors
solar sinew
Im sure theyll hunt Iguazu down eventually. First they have coyotes to mess with, a Strider to escort and Rustys squad to stop from grabbing the very classiffied intel they dragged out of a warzonr.
polar osprey
He could use a hug there too, but probably doesn't want one from 621
best i can do is a rubiconian handshake
feral niche
Best I can do is a Coral Surge.
polar osprey
i don't much like Iguazu
jade ginkgo
would hugs and love have saved iguazu?
discuss
inland sluice
Yes
solar sinew
No. It may have been enough to change the NG++ fight if he got exceedingly, stupidly lucky, but Im still not inclined to believe Iguazu would be able to stop his self-sabotage. Envy and inadequacy dont get "cured" by love and hugs, but through self-reflection.
He aint getting there without some vastly more profound change than someone patting him on the head. Michigan tried.
feral niche
Fair enough.
jade ginkgo
feral niche
It functions without a head?
jade ginkgo
if i recall my AC's anatomy correctly, the head does the tracking
last raven did let you function without parts
feral niche
I think I remember that first part, but that second part is interesting.
jade ginkgo
or i wasnt paying enough attention to one of the various older gen ac vids
entirely within the realm of possibility
feral niche
You know better than I do.
The amount of Old Gen vids I watched could be counted on one hand.
jade ginkgo
ah
serene kettle
for the record, part breaking wasn't actually a feature in the game that FMV is from
It's the intro to AC3, which was a couple of games before that featured
jade ginkgo
like 3 games before i think
serene kettle
so in that case it was just artistic license
jade ginkgo
based on the fact that broken parts had to be rebought, i can see why the mechanic didnt return
serene kettle
yeah it's really rough on the economy in a series with already brutal economy
it'd probably be fine in ac6 which hands you ludicrous amounts of money anyway but god, in any entry where money's actually scarce? ugh
serene kettle
The economy in verdict day, as an example, is absolutely brutal if you're not abusing replay mission
(mission 1-4 is trivial to no-hit since it's a duel against an AC with melee weapon arms and no aerial capability to speak of. So you can just get above him and he can't hurt you, basically)
jade ginkgo
40k COAM i could buy grid 012
i do like this storyline where i have money
serene kettle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soPi1lzX40A comically easy
jade ginkgo
poor lad
serene kettle
anyway you can replay it a few times to grind money very easily lol
radiant birch
part damage in AC is a fascinating concept to me
coming off of MechWarrior and especially MWO, the part-based damage & destruction system had a huge impact on play and meta--turning to present undamaged parts to enemy fire was an important fundamental skill, and there were chasses whose viability was reduced by bad part hitboxes (e.g. large, wide torso piece hitboxes that were easy to hit)
lots of MWO builds utilized a "dead side" where one half of the mech just didn't have any weapons or critical components installed so that you could turn it towards enemy fire as a defensive measure and let pieces get blown off without compromising performance
jade ginkgo
that is a very interesting piece of build design
radiant birch
AC's aiming being automatic rather than manual does change things somewhat, but it's interesting to think about what might change
jade ginkgo
ive not played MW anything because i live to go real bloody fast
is there something thats kinda fast in there
radiant birch
light mechs can haul pretty fast, though nowhere near lightweight AC speeds
jade ginkgo
close enough
jade ginkgo
ive not played MW anything because i live to go real bloody fast
i also realized this statement is not exactly too true because ive been grinding playtests of a pretty slow mech game
radiant birch
playing lightweight in MWO is tricky bc you're made of paper in a game where even the heaviest mechs will wither quickly under combined fire, but if your hit-and-run game is good you can have a lot of fun harrassing the other team
the key is to never stop moving, ever
serene kettle
I had a lot of fun with a customized melee firestarter in harebrained schemes’ game
8 dodge tokens abuse is real
solar sinew
Finally got around to adding some of the gear theyve collected to R20.
They will learn about AC6 parts, if only through osmosis xD
solar sinew
Where'd they get the Laser Slicer?
Rusty rerouted some field test data eary on. Balam intercepted it and ironically it was Rustys own subordinate who had a buddy who wouldve faced the consequences if the PCs hadnt stepped in to get it back.
They made a copy and rebuilt it. So, in some regards, we have a dupe of Rustys Laser Slicer now lmao
feral niche
It had to be something Rusty related, cool.
solar sinew
Of course it did. I wanted to throw something out there that led in his direction before Wallclimber to give them a reason to chat after, but boy did I miscalculate lmao
feral niche
'He's clearly not on our side, Iguazu on the other hand...'
Iguazu needs boot to face therapy.
Since hugs and love won't help him.
solar sinew
I dont know, theyve spent a solid 20 minutes arguing whether shooting Iguazu in the head is a worthwhile use of their time. The conclusion was a range of "He needs to die", "I feel bad, but MAN did he piss me off" and "It was kinda funny, ngl"
Rusty.. Theyre just convinced hes one of ALLMINDs, I think. Not that they quite worked out that latter bit yet, but they have a precedent for someone dying and still being out and about
Or rather uhh, identify theft
feral niche
I don't even mean killing Igauzu, I mean pretty much breaking him down to build him up again.
solar sinew
Oh yeah
feral niche
That would require getting him in their protracted hands as opposed to letting him stay a Redgun.
solar sinew
Id be super down for them to try the redemption arc angle. I have no idea where that would go later down the line, but ALLMIND not having a suitable and willing champion could be interesting
feral niche
Or rather uhh, identify theft
cursive agate
The AC part of Redguns seems very dysfunctional, held together by Michigan
solar sinew
621.
I stole that whole thing, two of my players are "Branch" wannabes. I mean Kate Marksen, though
solar sinew
That would require getting him in their protracted hands as opposed to letting h...
Im hinting that something is systematically maneuvering the Redguns into unfavorable positions, I could see them teaming up with them later down the line given one of them has family there in G13. Then again, Balam is a corporation, so its gonna be temporary at best and then yeah, Iguazus gonna have to figure out if he wants to do better or die with the Redguns
solar sinew
The AC part of Redguns seems very dysfunctional, held together by Michigan
I think its because Nile dies so early. They dont have a solid strategic backbone anymore. Nile is still around in my game, but Im looking at how I can throw them at my players
feral niche
If only stealing PCA Tech wasn't so hard...
Unrelated, but yeah I knew you meant KM, and cool.
solar sinew
If only stealing PCA Tech wasn't so hard...
Genuinely, yeah
Balam is hunting for RRI tech, given they really needed a motivation to put them on the same foot with Arquebus just in case my players put their thumb on the scale in their favor. So I can see this come down to Arquebus with the PCA tech against IBIS-Michigan lmao
feral niche
I mean they explicitly don't want you getting your hands on their tech, they would definitely send out teams to prevent you from doing it.
solar sinew
For obvious reasons, yeah
feral niche
I mean their main job is to 'prevent threats to planetary closure' and we see in the Spaceport the kind of stuff they are willing to do.
solar sinew
Im looking forward to figuring out with the Spaceport. I have some ideas, but so far my players have yet to blow a hole into Belius through the Watchpoint or the Strider
feral niche
Also am not even talking about the RRI tech, specifically PCA tech, granted sometimes it's a bit hard to see where one ends and the other begins besides coral and the occasional mention of RRI.
solar sinew
Stealing large amounts of PCA tech just needs a mission of the scale that the Iceworm takes. Not sure what Ill replace it with, but I do want to keep the aspect of an Arquebus Balam agreement
feral niche
Am wondering what one can pick off the Nepenthes stationary turret.
Like what you can turn it into mechanically.
First thought is Barb Cannon.
solar sinew
barb cannon?
feral niche
Barbarossa Ship Gun, sorry.
I don't remember what the Barbarossa's Ship Gun is actually called in Lancer.
solar sinew
Apocalypse Rail?
feral niche
Most definitely.
Granted it's not like you can give that to any other frame.
So no point in making something into a frame integrated system.
solar sinew
Yeah
Ive used the Apoc Rail as a PCA canon the RLF managed to steal and slot onto Gallia Dam to keep it secure, so its not exactly new tech
feral niche
Got it.
Do you think coral glows in water when disturbed like Bioluminescent plankton?
solar sinew
"mature" coral?
Probably
It sure does in my game to give us something to describe that isnt snow, rock and metal xD
feral niche
Fair enough.
I brought it up cause am imagining what the turbines in the hydroelectric damns look like considering there is coral in at least some of the water.
solar sinew
I brought it up cause am imagining what the turbines in the hydroelectric damns ...
We know there is Coral in Gallia at the very least. I guess theres the question of how much is in there and what state its in
feral niche
You think Coral could take control of Nanowash?
solar sinew
Thatd.. be hilarious lol
feral niche
I feel like it's possible, I mean it seems to be able to take over Non-RRI tech, at least I assume all those wrecked mechs aren't all RRI.
solar sinew
Nah, especially if you consider the last shot of Alea Iacta Est. Some of those are very clearly Schneider and Balam ACs or at least their parts. Ayre can just turn off various electronics. If theres a limit to what tech Coral can influence its probably limited to the people that were "fed" to it by the RRI and entirely obsolete in the NG++ ending
feral niche
So yeah, hilariously and horrifically, Coral can most likely control nanowash. Thankfully, there is none on Rubicon... Right?
solar sinew
Least weird thing to find on the Xylem:
feral niche
That would have made the Fires ending so much worse.
solar sinew
The lack of Nanowash?
feral niche
Nanowash being right there next to that concentration of coral.
Ignoring the fire, that feels almost like a Maw style event.
solar sinew
Alright, next week is the week. The rise and fall of the only character anyone is supposed to care about
solar sinew
Priorities.
feral niche
Best RaD member, Brute is cool too I guess since he made the chainsaw iirc.
serene kettle
Lol, when I ran an armored core inspired game I came up with a secret points system a la AC1 and allowed climbing by mission performance rather than arena matches (though shifts in the top 10 did require an arena challenge to cement it; you need to match or exceed to challenge but if you lose your points are reset to 1 below the victor)
This was deliberately an unfair system (it favors last-hitting and punishes cooperation among other things) and several npcs complained about it in-character just to be sure people didn’t get too ooc upset if they seemed to be “underperforming”
solar sinew
Lol, when I ran an armored core inspired game I came up with a secret points sys...
Very fun idea. Granted, I just offer this as a between session thing to test builds in a vacuum and get some bit-sized Lancer in
serene kettle
I have definitely thought about restarting that game as a lancer game at some point
or at least in the setting (which wasn't a canon armored core setting but was very carefully drawing on the vibes of the series)
(the original game was before lancer was a thing so I ran it in Chromestrike. can't really recommend even if we had fun anyway)