Armored Core General!

[late jay]

Like as shown in Secret Level, it's probably really unpleasant to get hooked up to one and even more so if you're unaugmented I imagine, but more what it's like once you're in

[cursive agate]

Without augments might lack the hooking up part going by arena logs, making it harder to adjust to new configs as quickly.

[mint pilot]

You may not realize the depths of hater one of those 2 are

[wooden nimbus]

Snail is a snobbish imperialist type and Iguazu is a complex bag designed to take the throne of the hateocracy

Snail's hatred is just a byproduct of him encountering someone who earned something, hating is part of who Iguazu is

[scarlet pagoda]

Snail can eat lead

Iguazu is a true hater

[wooden nimbus]

Bullying Snail is always morally correct

[late jay]

Turn him into escargot

[glad sierra]

Snail just seems like a douche who refuses to give anyone a compliment for anything. Iguazu, iirc, straight up sent me hate mail. i figure he's the greater of two haters

[serene kettle]

Oh, Iguazu is a hater hater. Snail is too contemptuous and self-absorbed to really claim the mantle of hater, at least outside of the Semifinale for Liberator of Rubicon

[wooden nimbus]

Iguazu sends you a hate voicemail, even

He was willing to pick up the phone, dial your number, wait for your goofy answering machine, and leave a voicemail

[polar osprey]

I love to hate Iguazu tbh

He's such a rat man

[serene kettle]

Someone edited Iguazu's voicemail into an Xbox Live message and yeah, it's honestly seamless

[late jay]

https://youtu.be/QSRCjQE4Urc?si=0Ju2KbaoLbMSrRrD

[late jay]

You talking about this one?

[serene kettle]

No, it was, uh

[polar osprey]

Lmao

Lore accurate iguazu

[late jay]

ASDFGHJKL

Also, Rep: 0/5

[grave jolt]

I find it funny after doing the second survey mission, you know the one where you kick the crap outta Iguazu for the first time?
You the Melander C3 frame.

This implies you fucking steal his AC.

[late jay]

Pffft

He also has a different version of his AC in that fight btw

Swapping his shield out for an ORBT, his arms for Mind Alpha and his generator with an Arquebus one

Might even have a different booster too

[late jay]

Same in Alt Institute City too

Testing out Tetrapods btw if anyone has any recommendations

Using this as a baseline for my ideal Tetrapod

Also made an MT-like build for shits and giggles

[eager vector]

https://youtu.be/pPt_UKJqisU

I did a tetrapod only playthrough and it was hard not to use this all the time lol

[late jay]

@eager vector

Got one better

[winter sigil]

this one is somewhat silly but fun and surprisingly workable

it's my pocket C-Weapon

[polar osprey]

that is a hella nice looking AC

[winter sigil]

second favorite of my ACs

[eager vector]

better how

[late jay]

Quad shotgun

[late jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1036672275941961840/1132727797748617286/3297794_mega-kot_he-dance.gif?width=375&height=375

[eager vector]

lolol

[eager vector]

I see the appeal spiritually. But you should try dual haldy and dual LCS if you haven’t before

[late jay]

I personally don't like having two of the same weapons on my AC, hence why I always build asymmetrically

[winter sigil]

I'm a dual trigger fiend

[late jay]

My main uses the Attache and Ransetsu-RF together if that counts

[eager vector]

That’s a fun combo

I’ve been enjoying Attaché and Turner too

Or scudder rather

[late jay]

I like the burst damage from the RF

[late jay]

Back on my bullshit with the Karasawa

Finding out that this works really well as a mid-range specialist, so I got Pulse Protection to help maintain that

I'm also learning more trigger discipline with the Karasawa too

I just realized that the fully charged shot pierces and deals multiple ticks of damage very quickly too

[eager vector]

Do you stagger punish with trueno?

[late jay]

Kinda

I use the Trueno right at the edge of the enemy's ACS overload to both hit the stagger and force them to take a direct hit before blasting them with a fully charged Karasawa to finish them off

[eager vector]

I have trouble landing truenos prior to stagger

[late jay]

That's what the missile lock is for

[cursive agate]

I've noticed locked Truenos have better steering at mid-long range, limited angle up-close.

[late jay]

Otherwise you can just treat it like a cannon for when they are staggered

Point-blank is also best for unlocked

[late jay]

It just me, or does the MIA mission convey "you are a terrible person for doing this" more than any other mission?

[cursive agate]

It's definitely up there, ||seeing the hell caused by your actions on that route as you leave the place||.

[patent oyster]

Smol glint obtained

[late jay]

Smint

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-4-for-answer-fortnite-dance-armored-core-4-for-answer-dance-gif-8402338964462694777

[late jay]

Kinda liking the look of this tbh

Dark paintjob with ultrabright lights for contrast

[glad sierra]

Ok, ||The Enforcer fight. Sick as hell. Got my shit rocked a lot, but that was probably the best fight so far||

[patent oyster]

My beloved

Wish we could use those parts

[glad sierra]

||Also, rip Iguazu? though for some reason I can't imagine that's the last i'm gonna see of him||

[patent oyster]

Is this your first playthrough of the game

[glad sierra]

yep.

as an aside, i can't help but feel my build is missing something. i wanna replace the right shoulder weapon with something, but i haven't landed on anything i'm in love with yet

[polar osprey]

Iguana...

[patent oyster]

If you cant think of anything, use ol' reliable MLT6

Honestly id recommend just trying everything at your disposal

Or waiting for new parts to unlock

[glad sierra]

||Bro stayed hating till what I’m tentatively assuming is the bitter end. I dunno why I’m assuming bro ain’t dead. His AC exploded. But still||

[polar osprey]

Wish i could help

But i never stopped using the first shoulder missiles you get in the game

[glad sierra]

So far, I’ve just landed on the songbirds. I was using a homing missile, but it didn’t have the kick i was looking for

[polar osprey]

Got those 4 shot missile launchers and i brought them with me through the entire game

[glad sierra]

There was a 10 count(?) shoulder missile that was nice, but not very good for the play style i’m goin with

I tend to stick too close for them to hit reliably from the distance i was firing from

[patent oyster]

You've unlocked the shoulder weapon bays in the OST chip menu right?

That should also widen your options

[glad sierra]

Mmhm

[polar osprey]

More gun

ACFA style

Bring big guns, and complement them with even bigger guns

[patent oyster]

For one, handheld missiles tend to reload slightly faster than their shoulder versions

[glad sierra]

I dunno if i wanna go more gun. At least not on my right arm. Closest i’m doing to that is swapping between the starting sword and a machine gun on the left hand

[polar osprey]

Fair

[glad sierra]

Actually, maybe i’ll give it a shot. See how i like it

[polar osprey]

Wish we could dual wield like in ACFA

Imagine the chaos

I love how bonkers ACFA got with certain weapons

The Kojima blade is just like, a nuclear bomb pretending to be a sword, it has no range whatsoever and swing ultra slow

But it's almost guaranteed to kill anything it hits since it causes effectively a nuclear explosion upon enemy contact

[late jay]

One of my favorites tbh

[late jay]

Made this to min-max with the Moonlight

And ngl, I kinda like it

Hand split missiles are underrated btw

[grave jolt]

This mod is so fucking cool~!

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/thunderbolt-gundam-gif-15520048

[grave jolt]

Sh-shit! I can't keep up with them...TRANS-AM!

https://tenor.com/view/gundam-oo-trans-am-gif-23718087

[late jay]

Found that the NGI booster is really good on this too and it gives me enough spare EN to cram the WLT FCS without any major drawbacks

[grave jolt]

Alright Ayre...i'll hear you out.
MarshallMars! Gundam Exia!

Eliminating the Target!!

"*The enemy has taken significant damage..."
Then i'll lay on the pressure! TRANS-AM!

[late jay]

Trans are

[grave jolt]

Finishing move!: FUJINKEN!

...Too much?

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/trans-transgender-trans-pride-trans-flag-pride-flag-gif-27463942

I just think of this whenever I hear "TRANS-AM"

[late jay]

You activate TRANS-AM and the RBG lights flash to trans pride colors

[late jay]

I like this a lot actually

[late jay]

Not sure what to paint it tbh

Or name it

[grave jolt]

Maybe a cyan or light blue as a main color and white as a secondary color?

Oh and Crescent Danger for the name.

or Crescent Dagger if you prefer.

[late jay]

A little too long to be a dagger imo

[radiant birch]

Moon Moon

[late jay]

https://youtu.be/6Xza9qae3Xk?si=Vexk5uprYeEdI5J5

[late jay]

Okay, ngl, it's kinda scary how much damage this thing does

[patent oyster]

Smol glint is so cute

[late jay]

Smint

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-white-glint-colossal-fart-attack-gif-25725602

[grave jolt]

Glint mints! (Minty fresh!)

[late jay]

Gave it a nice paintjob

[eager vector]

hell yeah, understated

[late jay]

Based it on the Institute AC since I'm mainly using RRI tech

And used it to roast Iguazu sub-20s

[grave jolt]

Hey Ayre, what can you tell 'bout this thing?
"MSZ-006 "Zeta Gundam" is a prototype transfo-(blahblahblah)"
(Huh what's this lever do?)

[late jay]

Plastic AC

[grave jolt]

H-huh?!
"Raven...what'd you do!?"

WOAH!

...So yeah zeta's pretty cool.

[late jay]

This makes me wish I could pilot a PCA Enforcer

Or even the IBIS SOL

[grave jolt]

And yes. you can do the Waverider crash attack
WOOOOOOOOOHOO!
"R-raven i think you're having a bit too much fun..."
NO! SUCH! THING!

It has easily the fastest assault ive ever seen!

900+ speed!

[late jay]

Ngl, Idk the majority of these references since I've only watched Thunderbolt

[grave jolt]

If it's assumed that you're spedometer is measured in MPH im going at LEAST Mach 1.1

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/gundam-gundam-thunderbolt-full-armor-gundam-io-fleming-jazz-gif-4165402855312728617

All I know is fuck Io Flemming, all my homies hate Io Flemming

[grave jolt]

AND YOU CAN FIRE WEAPONS IN WAVERIDER MODE TOO!

This might be my new favorite, and i haven't even gotten to the Seed suits yet.

[grave jolt]

Yeah fuck Io Flemming...but I do like jazz.

https://tenor.com/view/ya-like-jazz-bee-movie-gif-27508834

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-free-form-jazz-thinking-gif-15493920

I also learned that amputating all your limbs makes you a potential super-soldier from Thunderbolt

[late jay]

I think I'm gonna swap back to the P05 FCS on this AC because I was playing through Attack The Watchpoint and Sulla kept kicking my ass because I wasn't able to recover my EN fast enough

And Balteus too

The VE-20B needs that extra EN efficiency in order to make up for its longer recharge delay and I need to learn to use it more efficiently

Should I swap back to the Gills for more QBs or stick to the NGI for absurdly fast AB Shuffling

[cursive agate]

I think Gills or Flugel would work with the limited regen better? NGI is great but incredibly EN hungry in return.

[late jay]

Yea

I only use the NGI boosters with the San-Tai because of that

Specifically on my main

[late jay]

And I don't think I have to worry about Melee Boost Speed with the Gills since I'm using the Moonlight which puts you into a stationary stance when you attack

[radiant birch]

Yeah, Moonlight is sort of a "ranged" melee weapon

As odd as it is

You don't close with the enemy when you attack so the boost isn't relevant

[late jay]

Also scales off your generator's EN Weapon Adjustment on top of your arms' Melee Specialization

Which is why I'm using the VE-20B + Basho arms

Mainly just to see if I can make a viable build

[cursive agate]

It's really cool, but I end up using Bazookas again when the wide beam isn't needed.

[late jay]

I kinda treat the double slash mode of the Moonlight like a bazooka sorta

Found out that it combos pretty nicely with a kick too

I like to fire a split missile as I'm rushing into an enemy before I land the kick so they have to deal with that volley on top of it

Really good against tanks

Also I really wish I could add decals to the Mind Beta's cranium under the glass so I could make it Breon themed

[river junco]

Ooo I love that look

Oh… why was it scrolled up so far….. discord……

[late jay]

Thamk

Heckin chonker

[late jay]

@river junco I'm also working on a paintjob for it, here's a WIP over here if you're interested

[late jay]

Speaking of which, made more progress on it

[late jay]

And made the Dafeng Kid experience a supernova

[eager vector]

I feel like it’s a lil too dark but maybe it’s just the testing room lighting

[late jay]

Yea, still a WiP

[late jay]

I kinda want it to be dark to contrast with the lights more tbh

[radiant birch]

Dark with lights is a peak AC look tbh

Honestly I'm partial to any simple & clean paintjob that uses illuminated bits as highlights, whether dark or light. Excellent aesthetic

[polar osprey]

It is excellent

[late jay]

Thank

[south oracle]

huh, looks like the next patch is coming soon or something, 1.08 patch

[late jay]

That already happened

Literally the entire patch notes are just this

Unless they're making another one, idk where you heard that from though because I can't find anything on it online

[wooden nimbus]

Another one would be cool

I want more parts ;-;

[south oracle]

ah

I only just knew about this because a youtube was talking about this today, and well, he's definitely very slow on the trigger pull if this thing is 20 days old already

[late jay]

Chrightt?

He tends to take more time to do thorough research instead of posting ASAP

[late jay]

Although he hasn't done anything Armored Core related in a while

[radiant birch]

it's not a huge surprise, he likes to crunch numbers and since 1.07 there hasn't been much in the way of new numbers to crunch

oh he's been doing MH Wilds content recently, sick

yeah his last AC6 video was literally the patch 1.07 breakdown

[late jay]

Yea

[radiant birch]

i appreciate how Chrightt is like "i will base everything on numbers and what i do not have numbers for i will rigorously test in-game until i do"

[late jay]

Same

I do hope we get an official DLC down the line

Maybe a Branch and/or Nightfall PoV storyline

Or possibly even something that completely derails the campaign's story into something entirely different, like someone else makes Contact before you can or even another who made contact at the same time

People really want a Shrieker DLC

Which could be interesting if he shows up

What would be really funny is an alternate timeline where Dafeng Kid survives from pure dumb luck

I also had a dream one night where there was a DLC where Rummy makes contact and turns into a formidable pilot because of it, with a final boss fight against him in a terrifying mega C-Weapon

[languid sand]

Master of Arena is pretty fun.

[serene kettle]

It is! It's actually one of the best in the series imo

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-nine-ball-nineball-gif-11286609895985086346

[languid sand]

Karasawa go pew and everything does

It's wonderful

[patent oyster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee5o_9eUb8w

[late jay]

One Night With Hoshino

[south oracle]

like gosh, DLC please

Armored Core 5 got Verdict Day

Armored Core 4 got For Answer

PLEASE WE NEED MORE AC6

[late jay]

Armored Core 666

[late jay]

I'm taking this Tetrapod build out for a spin in some missions and I'm really liking it

[radiant birch]

Armored Core Six and Violence

[radiant birch]

looks cool 😁 i'm a fan of tetras

getting to do charged shots on the move is fantastic

[late jay]

Also gave this Tetrapod a new paintjob to commemorate pulling me through Ch1 on testing

[late jay]

And yes it is

[radiant birch]

ooo, i love the dark red and the black together. they almost shade into each other, in a really visually pleasing way

[late jay]

Thank

Should I use any patterns on it btw?

Here's the build again if anyone is wondering btw

[late jay]

Also I think this is the fastest I've ever beaten Rokumonsen

[regal wing]

Rusty DLC

[late jay]

Would be cool if there was a prequel campaign before the Fires of Ibis

[eager vector]

https://youtu.be/7riW-QlSxjI

not the same guy but I just love this clip lmao

[late jay]

Pffft

[late jay]

Ngl, when you spam the Haldemanns and Laser Cannons back to back like that, it looks like your AC is hitting the griddy

[late jay]

If I try out a tank legs build, should I go with the wheelchair or rocket legs?

[serene kettle]

are rocket legs even good? i've never really been impressed by them

[cursive agate]

Rocket tank has absurd AB stats, more than Buerzel but to offset absurd weight.

[late jay]

The rocket legs are insanely fast if you AB with them and they're really good at shuffling on top of that

[cursive agate]

Drains energy wildly fast (with QBs), and slow QB cooldown.

[late jay]

The QB cooldown doesn't really matter if the duration is long enough, that's what matters for shuffling

[serene kettle]

ah I see

that's fun

[polar osprey]

wish i wasn't so inflexible as a builder

but RJ are supreme

[serene kettle]

so the reason I've never been impressed is because Chartreuse doesn't really AB much 😛

Chartreuse is maybe the squishiest tank in the game, I've functionally oneshot her with Redfin

[polar osprey]

skill differential

[late jay]

The main downside of the rocket tank is that it has abysmal Attitude Stability

[cursive agate]

I remember it being usable, but really low by Tank/hitbox standards.

[late jay]

I know someone who taught me how to shuffle, made a whole video on it

https://youtu.be/1tbyS8D2Mt4?si=jqlz1HVkiiscCZ8K

[radiant birch]

rocket tank is somewhat popular for airborne builds from what i've seen

since you can get 100% airtime with a coral generator

i want to put together a wheelchair legs build sometime, since being able to fire back weapons on the move seems fun to me. but i've never gotten one together that quite satisfies me

[late jay]

There's a meme build I tried out that I kinda like with a quad shotgun build on a rocket tank

Basically just turn my AC into a supersonic battering ram

[eager vector]

seems rude to not put laser lance on that

[radiant birch]

kinda want to see dual earshot on rocket tank legs

aerial bombardment

[late jay]

I wish there was a more bursty Pulse weapons available outside of the Butt Blade

I suppose Assault Armor counts too tho, doesn't it?

[radiant birch]

it certainly is a burst, yeah

[late jay]

Currently working on this monster

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-pryde-xmen-shadowcat-juggernaut-gif-13588119

[radiant birch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_MCWbEUNvQ

[late jay]

Saw that

[late jay]

Took this one out for a spin in Watchpoint Delta

Got a B rank

[late jay]

I think I wanna go back to that Tetrapod build I was working on before since these ultra heavyweight bipeds aren't working out as much as I'd like

[late jay]

The Tetrapod just has much better mobility so I don't have tank everything thrown at me

[grave jolt]

Cool guys don't look at explosions.

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-wolverine-x-men-explode-helicopter-gif-4464835

[radiant birch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubarYmOsvLs

super curious what this cut mechanic they're referencing is going to end up being

[late jay]

O

I wish there was an RaD Tetrapod since the Rubiconian factions seem to lack them

[radiant birch]

yeah, and i suspect that this might have been intended as that given how well it matches the ORBITER core visually

but i guess they felt like it was too redundant with the Arquebus tetra legs to keep

[late jay]

Honestly, the other leg types need more niches like the bipeds

Like the Spring Chicken Reverse Joints could be a heavyweight focused on having a high weight capacity while there could be another option that is more about having better defense

Like the Wrecker legs to the Dessert

[late jay]

And those Tetrapods look like they could be more in between medium and lightweight to me, they seem skinnier than the Arquebus Tetrapods and bulkier than the Lammergeier

Or maybe even a more defensive lightweight option like the Alba legs

[grave jolt]

Bomb screenshot i got. Craps wallpaper worthy.

[late jay]

Idk why, but I prefer ACs that are customized to look like Gundams/Xakus over mods

Or idk, maybe I'm just yet to find one that suits my tastes

Pretty sure the PCA's Calvary units are inspired by Gundams too

I guess I like the grunginess of ACs more

[wooden nimbus]

Yeah the AC vibe really speaks to me

[eager vector]

I wish they’d picked a good Gundam suit to mod in

[wooden nimbus]

That is a cool screenshot tho ngl

[radiant birch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB8TbLNB81w

2 handed gun...

[cursive agate]

2-handed stance would have been a big help to melee (outside of hard melee focus), especially the higher recoil guns.

[late jay]

Yea...

Would've made the Hu-Ben easier to aim

[late jay]

Also would be better for the Karasawa too

[late jay]

I hope this person makes a public mod with all these cut features and stuff

[radiant birch]

they seem to be more a dataminer than a modder, from what i've seen? though they've kludged together ingame functional versions of other stuff like the back boosters

[late jay]

Fair

[grave jolt]

I'm sure if i look hard enough, i can find a PCA LC part mod

Hell, it's prolly in the AC6 Armoury mod.

https://www.nexusmods.com/armoredcore6firesofrubicon/mods/158?tab=images Oh hey look at that. Heavy Cav' right 'ere!

[late jay]

Huh

[grave jolt]

Ok, i tried the mod. it's really cool looking, but in comparison to the Gundam mod...it's aight.

[late jay]

Kinda feel like they should make a mod for HC parts having their own stats too rather than just being a reskin

[late jay]

https://vxtwitter.com/miritarichicken/status/1701539257201098901?t=GCszDh-jqXEshUHZ1IKZjg

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[late jay]

https://youtu.be/AhMkOi9tD3w?si=GA5hA4pRWu9iyuli

[regal wing]

alright it’s armored core day baby

[regal wing]

this is it

final route boss

[late jay]

Good luck

[regal wing]

no kidding

[late jay]

Iguazu: King of Pissbabies

[eager vector]

worth noting that when you deal enough damage to the boss to advance to the next phase, any adds that are still alive disappear

[regal wing]

ye, but they swarm me a lot

i've gotten to the second phase alright, and got to like 1/10th of healthbar left

I just need to get good!

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-kick-jjba-gif-13894493

[regal wing]

I DID IT

WITH ONE HEALTH POINT LEFT

I PILEBUNKER’D HIS ASS

[wooden nimbus]

Amazing

[regal wing]

ANIME TYPE SHIT

[wooden nimbus]

Ye

Man I wish I could figure out what about the last updated tanked my performance

[scarlet pagoda]

Probably drivers

[wooden nimbus]

drive this

[wooden nimbus]

It's still stuttering but I did get this dank screenshot

[late jay]

Hell yea

[languid sand]

Been playing Nexus again, Genobee is such a goober

[late jay]

Noic

e

[late jay]

(Spoilers for NG++ final boss)
|| https://youtu.be/hkgdJzqmg7Y?si=UMw7jBPKcZIUqPev ||

[eager vector]

holy shit

[wooden nimbus]

Gawddamn

[polar osprey]

Jfc

[late jay]

Made a couple updates to my main for better EN Efficiency

[late jay]

May I remind you of this feature of the Wrecker legs btw?

[scarlet pagoda]

Hold on

What

what

[late jay]

It's one of Carla's creations, what would you expect?

[south oracle]

ah, is that jet coming out of the thigh?

[late jay]

No, coming from the crotch

You can see the front-facing thrusters there in the other pictures

[languid sand]

I'd kill for a pair of legs with a pile bunker kick

[late jay]

Saaame

[quasi copper]

real ones know

[polar osprey]

lmao

[late jay]

AJKDHKKJFVNUYTERIFDGVKM

Ngl, the Xylem from that PoV just looks like the outskirts of San Francisco

[winter sigil]

aaaghgh

[regal wing]

Before Rustee!
Rusty: Not what I'm called.

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/rusty-armored-core-6-ac6-hey-buddy-gif-16826584190554997879

[late jay]

https://youtu.be/DcLQptoTmEE?si=MyFl8puHFkiLc3fy

[wooden nimbus]

this feels about right

[late jay]

https://art.ngfiles.com/images/6269000/6269854_1492386_mega-kot_untitled-6269854.44ad974dcdf0a1727257135c15ca49be.gif?f1733710697

[regal wing]

https://www.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/1km9kr8/forget_100_men_vs_1_gorilla_how_about_100_mts_vs/

this is dope as hell

[late jay]

Jfc

[polar osprey]

Those poor MT's

[eager vector]

It’s giving https://bsky.app/profile/testamentenjoyment.net/post/3lp4faxtgf22z

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Bluesky · May 14, 2025, 6:38 AM

[polar osprey]

i need to play more ACFA

[polar osprey]

godsdamn missiles do damage

tried to fight Otsdarva

and we keep stalemating

i can't hit him enough cause he's so disgustingly fast

and he keeps not being able to kill me before running out of ammo cause i'm disgustingly tanky

i tried adding blades for holdout weapons but i'm just straight up not fast enough for them to matter

honestly kinda funny

especially cause i stomped everyone else i fought quite hard, Otsdarva is just built for dodging like a motherfucker

simply does not stop

[late jay]

Yea, I heard For Answer is brutal

[late jay]

Would you say it's harder than Last Raven btw?

[polar osprey]

i have not played Last Raven

[eager vector]

Definitely not

[late jay]

Figured

[serene kettle]

I think people tend to agree on Last Raven being the series' hardest

[cursive agate]

From what I've heard, Last Raven's economy (used parts selling for less), and potentially losing parts from battle damage(?) drive up the harshness if you're in too deep on some routes.

[serene kettle]

Yeah it's one of the rougher games for economy and it's got the late third gen simulationism going on where you have a lot to track

damage to your mech impairs you actively, for example - it's not just an AP bar, if you take too many hits to the head part not only will you have to pay full price for a head replacement, your radar will be deactivated for the mission

similar with arms and weapons

[polar osprey]

huh

i haven't played the game but it sounds like it goes a bit too hard into the realism of operating a mech at the detriment of enjoying the game

[radiant birch]

Got some MechWarrior in their Armored Core there

[serene kettle]

Yeah that's a common criticism of Nexus and Last Raven

You can also overheat and destroy parts that way, though it's not as simulationist as Mechwarrior in that regard

[polar osprey]

huh

yeah that sounds like a lot of focus on shit just breaking

[serene kettle]

Oh yeah, and heat increases when you use boosters

(and since this is oldgen, there's no quickboosting - this is just your regular boosters. the alternative is walking.)

[polar osprey]

ah

well

can't say i miss the days of no quick boost

not that i was there for them

but thank fuck for innovation

[serene kettle]

Quickboosting is fun but I like oldgen boost too, it's just different. You do still have overboost (think proto-assault boost, though vastly less powerful in combat than AB is)

You won't zoom to the same degree but you can absolutely still dodge and stuff, you just do a lot more running on foot instead of sliding and use the slide as your accelerated movement. Projectile speeds are largely lower to accommodate this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2hvKTisvgw like, skip the first three minutes of garage fiddling and here's some AC1 gameplay. You're still mobile, it's just different

[polar osprey]

give me overed boost

i need to go into maximum overdrive when i boost

[cursive agate]

I think without quickboost is fine if strafing sideways is accessible. Gliding/sprint boost sideways can sorta make up for it by messing with projectile prediction (based on my own experiences in Dolls Nest, infrequent use of QB).

[polar osprey]

mhm

personally i do happen to be a big fan of obscene super movement like in ACFA, but i can understand that it also is a bit much

i thought AC6 did a good job being fast but not too fast, though it was also very vertical which was apparently a big change from ACV

[serene kettle]

yeah having played ACV and VD it is very not vertical

5th Gen ACs are noticeably bad at gaining height compared to other gens, to the point where being able to do so without a lot of effort is considered a huge mobility edge

[polar osprey]

mhm

you can't really emulate V or VD as i understand it so i haven't played them

but from what i saw that makes sense

[serene kettle]

Mostly you can't just choose to fly up, it's all jumping and terrain interaction

[polar osprey]

i've played 6, FA and i think a bit of 3

[serene kettle]

You can gain height mostly via walljumping so it feels very parkour-y in movement

[polar osprey]

sounds pretty neat

[serene kettle]

it's a lot of fun but generally does not lend itself to highly vertical gameplay

[polar osprey]

in that case AC6 is definitely more on the AC4/FA side of things than ACV/VD

[serene kettle]

Generally closer to that, yeah.

[polar osprey]

honestly i just want more ACFA type shit

i understand why we probably won't get it but i want it

even if we don't do the absurd speed again give me that nitty gritty customization

[serene kettle]

Notably Reverse Joints have an auxiliary thruster in 5th Gen that lets them gain much more height on a walljump than normal, so RJs rule for mobility in V/VD

[polar osprey]

there is so much shit you can customize in FA

hell you can specifically make your NEXT be good at moving in a direction

you can have none armor left speed if you really want

[serene kettle]

AC6 actually cut down a lot on the nitty-gritty. Part tuning was introduced in Nexus and lasted until Verdict Day, but is absent from 6

[polar osprey]

😭

you can calibrate your damn center of gravity in FA and that level of customization fucks

[serene kettle]

(My VD build was Yellowjacket, a light RJ with dual pistols and dual pilebunkers in my bay slots. It was a riot to pilot.)

remarkably zippy for 5th gen, I found my biggest issue was actually ammo for a lot of missions

(pilebunkers had limited ammo in VD, because you were using them to plant an explosive charge beneath the armor)

[polar osprey]

gods i adore my NEXT in FA, i keep thinking i need to try new things cause i have done pretty much just one build in the game

but it's such a cool build

[late jay]

I think my main in AC6 is somewhat inspired by 5th Gen but having more aerial capabilities, just needing to touch down every so often to recharge fully for a little less than a second

I can technically stay in midair indefinitely with it, but my movement is going to be hindered drastically by ABing my EN dry every second

[radiant birch]

I kind of want to compare Last Raven to MW5, since they both seem to have a similar loop of granular mech destruction that you're financially on the hook for

Because despite that similarity, MW5 doesn't have the brutal reputation that Last Raven does

[serene kettle]

Last Raven is also just a hard game in general

[radiant birch]

Is the combat itself just less punishing? It'd be interesting to compare

[serene kettle]

the economy doesn't help but it's considered one of the harder AC games just in its own right

[radiant birch]

Yeah that makes sense

And MechWarrior doesn't have quite the delicate balance of mech building that Armored Core does

[late jay]

I think a lot of missions in LR boil down to attrition, the most notable ones are long gauntlets with a boss at the end

[radiant birch]

You're determining firepower, speed, and heat management but it's not all quite as interdependent

[late jay]

AC6 has those too, but they at least give you repair kits

[serene kettle]

Oh yeah, the name of the mission I'm blanking on but there's a long one that ends with a Quad-leg Pulverizer fight

that mission is infamous and for good goddamn reason

[late jay]

And resupplies right before the boss/enemy AC

[serene kettle]

One of the starting missions in Last Raven puts you against a high-ranked named AC in your poor little starter mech

(though to be fair, this is intentionally brutal - it's a beef gate to keep new players from locking themselves into the harder routes)

did I mention Last Raven has like six endings?

[radiant birch]

Last Raven lets you pull in save data from prior games, doesn't it?

So yeah, having something to filter out players who aren't running endgame builds from the last game makes sense

[serene kettle]

You can import from Nexus, yeah

[late jay]

It's also meant to be played following 3, Silent Line and Nexus

Oh, yea, sorry

Jfc I type so slow

[radiant birch]

Lol that's discord, no worries 😛

[serene kettle]

You can only import from nexus, to be clear

you cannot import from silent line to nexus

[late jay]

I kinda wonder if AC6 might have DLC which is a continuation of the main routes

[serene kettle]

so nexus you're starting fresh, there are not three games of building up resources to work with here

but yeah, that mission being a filter makes sense

[late jay]

Oh

[serene kettle]

and while Last Raven's reputation is earned in other ways, it does probably contribute when people take the highest-paying mission off the bat and just get absolutely bodied on the starter mission

[radiant birch]

Would be cool! Something like Devil Survivor Overclocked's epilogues to the endings of the original game

[late jay]

Does Nexus and Last Raven have its equivalent of OP-Intensify to carry over?

[late jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1036672275941961840/1132727797748617286/3297794_mega-kot_he-dance.gif?width=375&height=375

[serene kettle]

No, OP-Intensify was removed in nexus and there is no equivalent

[late jay]

Kinda feel like Liberator of Rubicon would be the only one with room for an epilogue

Hell, they could even pull a For Answer of it where you're playing as some other augmented human

And you fight 621

[serene kettle]

Yeah Fires of Raven is pretty final ||(even if the stinger implies 621's survival, somehow)||, and Alea Iacta Est is...yeah. A bit Instrumentality.

[late jay]

People really want Keanu Reeves's character in a DLC

[serene kettle]

Wake the fuck up, Samurai

We've got Coral to Burn

[late jay]

I kinda feel like he would end up being like if Sulla was more central to the plot

Which I feel is welcomed since he's too damn interesting to show up once

[serene kettle]

I know you mean the one from the secret level episode but the idea of Johnny Silverhand appearing in Armored Core with zero attempt at explanation is hilarious to me

[late jay]

Pffft

And then it ends with Walter carrying you after waking up saying "621, we saved you from a gas leak in your cockpit"

[polar osprey]

man i love NEXT's

[serene kettle]

No, no, Johnny Silverhand just inexplicably replaces Ayre. The plot otherwise proceeds normally.

[polar osprey]

just building one for fun and i made its flight capabilities way too powerful

[late jay]

ASDFGHJKL

[polar osprey]

i keep just fucking rocketing up away from the enemy

[serene kettle]

Meanwhile, Ayre is stuck in V's head and Cyberpunk gets stranger

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-rads-radiation-counter-gif-6369229076219259168

That reminds me

https://youtu.be/aNaGcgda61o?si=loXq9vzDiznbnfVg

[late jay]

I think that would lead to something like the ending of Arcane ngl

[polar osprey]

real shit

honestly

[radiant birch]

okay but lowkey after my first FoR run i recolored my main AC build a dour, ashen gray and i have a bit written in my head about how even though Raven was never seen again, reports of an identical AC build designated FALLEN ONE (the main AC was named CELESTIAL VISITOR) have been circulating ever since

[polar osprey]

even if you have a bigger mech than a NEXT

you really just

don't wanna fucking fight one

they are constantly spewing out super death radiation on purpose

[serene kettle]

Idiot corpos in FA being like "with Arms Forts, we have rendered NEXTs Obsolete"

lol you did no such thing

[polar osprey]

i love the idea of Armsforts too

[radiant birch]

"surely they will not do something stupid like strap a rocket to their NEXT"

[polar osprey]

"we have built these city sized mobile fortress weapons to revolutionize warfare"

incredible stuff

[late jay]

Meanwhile in Verdict Day-

[radiant birch]

AC just goes hard on the vibes at all times

i think that's the takeaway here

[late jay]

Would you say the Ibis Series are like the closest modern equivalent to NEXTs?

[serene kettle]

By default, yes

[late jay]

Except instead of spewing radiation, they cause your appliances to gain sentience

[serene kettle]

CEL-240 moves somewhat like one though it's way squishier than most NEXTs are

[radiant birch]

Coral is implied to be somehow toxic, or in some other way it "contaminates" its surroundings

so there's a parallel with Kojima particles there

although with Coral it's secondary to the fact that it's just absurdly explosive

[serene kettle]

The funny part about Verdict Day is you're fighting a guy who has never piloted a NEXT before and while he's a skilled pilot, he's not used to being able to move like that and frequently hangs in the air trying to stabilize after flash-stepping faster than he's used to. It's still one of the toughest fights in the series

[late jay]

I feel like Coral is probably scarier to deal with since it's both alive and has a will to fight back

[radiant birch]

and can regrow at an exponential rate

[late jay]

Yep

[serene kettle]

everything about coral is nonsense if you think about it too hard

it is some of the truest plotanium I've ever seen

[late jay]

Coral is Lovecraftian, that's what it is

I kinda wonder if BAWS ever had cases of their MTs coming to life because of their Coral wells

[serene kettle]

Nice, my first was with AC THORN.

That sleeve is still some of the best emblem-work i've done tbh

[late jay]

Hell yea

[radiant birch]

I gotta do some decal work one of these days. Never did much but the simplest

[serene kettle]

It was a basic bitch first build (Mid-heavy weight biped with BUTRknife and Songbirds) and not even good, but it was fun and I keep the file around just for its customization

my favorite of my builds is Lumberjack, though.

Is it good? no. Did I win with it anyway? yes

dunking on iguazu never gets old

[polar osprey]

i still think it's mad funny that my Dash Pinion stalemated twice against Otsdarva when i tried to fight him

[polar osprey]

righto, got three designs setup now for NEXT's

Dash Pinion being a ultra-heavyweight weapons platform

Solar Coast being an ultra-lighweight skirmisher

and Dune Cycle being more of a middleweight all rounder, capable of long range missile combat as well as close range machine gun runs

also i have now learned the truth that is ACFA's default control scheme being better than anything you can make custom

[deft bridge]

Solar coast is a great name imo

[polar osprey]

Thanks

I try to name all of my AC's and NEXT's with cool and fitting names

Dash Pinion prolly has the least fitting one cause it was conceptualized as a speedy flying RJ

It's still good at flying but it's not particularly fast anymore

It doesn't tay in the air well like my other NEXT's

But that's surely on account of the weight

Drops like astone which is funny cause Solar Coast and Dune Cycle do a short burst of hovering vefore faling and ammost instantly fly up again when i re-engage my boosters

Dash Pinion falls, stalls its momentum, and then starts flying again

[late jay]

First one be if Snail was cool

[polar osprey]

Snail wishes he could make something as epic as Dash Pinion

[late jay]

Back to plotting

[patent oyster]

https://youtube.com/shorts/bXHz2M6IRqA?feature=share

[polar osprey]

Lmao

[late jay]

ASDFGHJKL

[late jay]

Any thoughts btw?

[radiant birch]

KRSV on quad legs seems neat

...does the charge shot have ground AOE?

[late jay]

Not really, at least not as far as I know

It does pierce though

And deals lots of damage over multiple ticks

[radiant birch]

Nice

Splash damage is fun on quad builds bc you can just do aerial bombardment

But this build seems like fun as well!

[late jay]

Ye

I think this one is more about staying level with your target

[radiant birch]

Yeah, more about using the quads' ability to fire changed KRSV shots without being immobilized

[late jay]

Yea, me too

Also sniping with the Trueno is fun too

[radiant birch]

I have experienced this particular pleasure myself

Nobody expects the pre-stagger Trueno

[grave jolt]

This but Ace Combat, Assetto Corsa, Assassins Creed and Animal Crossing.

[mint pilot]

https://www.tumblr.com/toskarinfr/784207633053876224

[radiant birch]

i know it's foolhardy and yet i live in hope

[cursive agate]

AC6.5 or AC7 seems more possible at this point.

[radiant birch]

i would not object to that either

[late jay]

More likely a 6.5

[polar osprey]

so long as i get more AC content i do not care

[radiant birch]

gib robuts

of course, i say all this with AC4/FA still to play sometime

[polar osprey]

ACFA is what i've been jumping to when i feel the bug tbh

[wooden nimbus]

This is the second time I've updated all my stuff (game, drivers, validate files, etc) to find the game performed worse for me, I have no idea why

😔 I think I might be cooked

You would think it would be a non issue when I run like mhwilds and ue5 games without causing my motherboard to turn cherenkov blue but here I am

[radiant birch]

oh that is really weird. AC6 ran like a dream on my old rig, never mind my upgraded MH Wilds one

[wooden nimbus]

I've seen that some people online are saying it's a change to EAC where it's basically repeatedly checking things constantly, which makes sense since it very closely mimics the Denuvo stutter in how it works

Only with this update it also obliterated my frame rate

[radiant birch]

aw

damn, that might cook me on AC6 and Elden Ring both

[wooden nimbus]

It doesn't seem to be universal tho which is the odd part

And my game is unmodded

[radiant birch]

well i'll see

[radiant birch]

hang on, 1.09?

gah, they didn't drop an announcement through Steam

and i'm going to take a wild guess and say this is incorrect

...!!

stun needle projectile speed buff??

that's potentially huge

[eager vector]

https://pastebin.com/QnC90hDz

[late jay]

They buffed the Spring Chicken???

[cursive agate]

Mostly buffing weight capacity, and +40 stability.

[late jay]

Hell yea

[late jay]

Liking this a lot btw

[late jay]

Losing the Trueno gives me a lot of much-needed mobility

[radiant birch]

true, Trueno does pin you down

...no pun intended.

[radiant birch]

i wanna see how the Javelin Alpha and stun needle do with the projectile speed buffs

i feel like that's going to make it a lot easier to land hits with them

[late jay]

Yea

Mildly disappointed by no Aurora buffs

[late jay]

Obliterated the watchpoint with it

[polar osprey]

nice

[late jay]

Decided to try something different with this AC's paintjob

And found that max saturation in photo mode gives really cool cell shading

Idk what to name this one btw

[eager vector]

Diamond Weapon

[polar osprey]

that looks very sleek

[late jay]

?

[late jay]

Huh

[eager vector]

FF7 super boss that has a similar profile, and is also a big plodder with big laser blasts

[late jay]

Kinda figured it was a FF boss

[eager vector]

Virage has a similar look, from Legend of Dragoon

[late jay]

Super gremlin

[eager vector]

I love LoD creature design

[late jay]

Trying to come up with a name now

My first thought was Ivory Tower, but nah

[eager vector]

Ivory Citadel

[late jay]

Another one being Redbone

Like the song

Love that song, I suggest giving it a listen

Or maybe Red Velvet?

I am using the Dessert legs after all

Although I don't think I'm using enough RaD parts to give it a doser name

[eager vector]

not with that attitude

[late jay]

https://art.ngfiles.com/images/2402000/2402835_mega-kot_blorp.gif?f1647211034

[late jay]

I just realized that the formation that the Aurora beams and JVLN missile launch make the shape of a hand btw

[radiant birch]

wait really

[late jay]

Ye

[proven bison]

Man Curtis/JavAlpha/6xPlasma Missiles/ExThrower is goated

Just beat iceworm and god is this combo satisfying

[eager vector]

without stun needle?

[polar osprey]

back in AC6 after a long hiatus and

i am getting so fucked up with the controls

barely even managed to climb the wall wow

so used to ACFA controls it's tripping me up

[late jay]

Same after coming back from Warframe

[serene kettle]

It can be done! It's just significantly harder

[polar osprey]

ok that was far better

jfc

had to fistfight the juggernaut on the first run

[serene kettle]

lol

[polar osprey]

sweeped it relatively easily on the second

[serene kettle]

that sounds like an annoying boss to try to fistfight!

[polar osprey]

my entire fucking brain had to rewire itself between those fights

i still have no idea how to quick turn

[serene kettle]

I've done Juggernaut with chainsaw meme build and I think it was harder than the NG++ final boss

[polar osprey]

got a B rank first time and S-rank second, but Wallclimber is easy as hell

can i quick turn in this game

[serene kettle]

It's definitely in the game, though I've never quite got the hang of it

[polar osprey]

i've been learning it in ACFA

oh i hate that

you need to time your movement input and the boost button while moving to either side or backwards

[cursive agate]

In AC6, I've really only seen Quick Turn used for turning in AB.

[polar osprey]

that sucks wow

ok so that's not something i'm going to use lmao

oh you need to hold the button

i thought you just pressed it

i'll need to try this during combat

ok i think you could finesse that if you practiced

i think i still like that less than what you have to do in ACFA

i don't think it's worth tinkering with for my purposes

hardlock existing makes it not so much of an interest for me

in ACFA there is no hardlock so you kinda gotta

also it's not tied to your movement it's tied to your camera

the biggest thing i found difficult trying it out just now in AC6 was just de-engaging trying to move in my head while also still using the movement stick to adjust the camera, and trying to move while using it was even more difficult cause i'd try to flick for movement and it'd go in the wrong direction

in ACFA i can just disengage movement, camera rotate with the right stick and boost button, then re-engage movement again in one fluid motion

gonna take Dawn Anchor up the wall

damn the moonlight blades do damage

oh yeah another thing i keep forgetting

i don't need to hold down any buttons to boost, only need to press it

in ACFA you need to hold down boost

[late jay]

https://youtu.be/fIGzwSQBjCU?si=Jl3mdqxzZKiOomFu

[polar osprey]

made a new AC while i was at it, Toxicant Exodus

an aerial long to mid range hunter

[winter sigil]

greeen

[polar osprey]

color schema inspired by frogs

[winter sigil]

double stun needle is evil

[polar osprey]

curtis for building up stun and double needle for either proccing or just humungous damage

[radiant birch]

i am just reflexively afraid of that AC

[eager vector]

is double Curtis that effective at building up stun?

[radiant birch]

on quad legs it's pretty decently effective yeah

you're very free to swap between regular and charged shots as needed

[patent oyster]

The frontal shield is just a fancy super durable pulse shield

[polar osprey]

Plus you have the stun needles to use as needed

[polar osprey]

Interesting...

[eager vector]

Yall i know you can beat ice worm without stun needle, I just wanted to know if that’s how @polar osprey tested their build lol

everyone answered that question except the person I asked haha

[radiant birch]

Maybe it's just leftover memories from before the stun needle nerf, I remember that punish was brutal

[polar osprey]

I always test my builds against Locksmith and Nightfall

If i use a mission as a test it's usually Wallclimber

Those two as well as Wallclimber give a decent test of its speed, handling of groups and tougher singular targets, ability to dodge and maneuver and deal with being under fire with the cannons

Not the most rigorous testing but it lets me get a good feel for an AC quickly

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-batman-the-dark-knight-joker-movie-gif-18271886

[polar osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-snake-big-boss-gif-12248663

[late jay]

Jokes aside, that's pretty terrifying

[polar osprey]

i'm not particularly good at piloting it but it's a fun build

also once again hitting on that symmetry that i would definitely be known for if i was an AC make in the game

[late jay]

I got steamrolled by a friend at one point who went full heavy Tetrapod with dual Stun Needles and Therapists for shits and giggles

[polar osprey]

i only have like, one other tetrapod AC i've made

can't remember what i named it rn

[eager vector]

This is very fun, I should figure out what weird quirk I would have in my bio as an AC arena NPC

[polar osprey]

mhm

i build symmetrical builds like 90% of the time

it's very rare and always experimental and out of my comfort zone to not do symmetrical builds

[late jay]

I build asymmetrically 99% of the time

[eager vector]

same

can’t have two pilebunkers after all

[polar osprey]

i both build symmetrically and go for very, how you say, constant builds

[eager vector]

my OASIS is symmetrical tho

[polar osprey]

most of my AC designs are about keeping constant pressure on the enemy

i'm a very middle ground pilot which is reflected in my builds along with the symmetry

[winter sigil]

my only symmetrical builds are weird

[eager vector]

Oh I do also frequently do dual haldeman dual LCS

[eager vector]

which is like the epitome of this

https://youtu.be/eciuWaaPPGE

[radiant birch]

AC: SHOTGUN ANGEL

[winter sigil]

angel with a 2 shotguns

[wooden nimbus]

Apparently the third re-install fixed whatever my problem was :D robot time for meeeee

[late jay]

Noice

[distant forge]

i dont know if i ever posted the vy build

AC「AUDREY II」

i let her make a robot and she made the most insufferable annoying robot possible

literally just buzzes around like an annoying insect and bashes people with the flail, which for some horseshit reason is one of the best melee weapons in the entire game

there have been multiple games where the opponent completely does everything right, pops our terminal armor, then she just rushes them down and bonks them to death from a huge hp advantage

[radiant birch]

that's kind of hilarious

[patent oyster]

Boat

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/big-shoe-lmfao-big-shoe-lmfao-gif-21655557

[paper ferry]

Armored Core?

[latent bane]

indeed.

i will say part of the reason I feel I’d get stomped in pvp (skill issues aside) is that my playstyle was in your face lightweight

[proud tiger]

Is the core armoured?

[latent bane]

and is probably exactly what I’m going to be again once I actually get parts

[proud tiger]

That can woek

[paper ferry]

That’s amore

[latent bane]

on that note, have the pistols gotten touched since like
release? since I rather liked those but felt they needed a tuneup especially ammo wise

my time was before the balance patches ever came out

[paper ferry]

Oh here’s my fav build in action btw

https://youtu.be/5_yqwSnEseI

[proud tiger]

The ducketts certanly did

Im not sure if they nerfed them down since i played

But when i did dual ducketts with a melee punish were absolutly terrifying to see on a lightweight

[latent bane]

interesting… right now I’m thinking dual coquillett to finish off chapter 1, but Balteus looms on the horizon so I’m going to keep the pulse blade on my left shoulder as well

maybe laser cannon on my right if I can afford the EN (at worst this means a mission replay or two to get more funds, so not a huge deal)

i will say I had no idea Walter had alt dialogue in the first mission if you beat him to the repair section which was funny

[proud tiger]

I dunno why, but i never had issues with belteus, i rememmber first trying on my first playthrough

And then i saw a shitton complain about him under some video i watched

[latent bane]

i did have some struggles with him but I also had like, no vision because glasses + headphones gave me headaches from the frame squeeze so I just. gamed without glasses for the longest

[proud tiger]

Damn

I couldnt

[latent bane]

i also feel like I’ve improved by taking a big break from the game seeing as how I’ve managed not to fail any missions so far (albeit the ghost MTs nearly got me) despite the almost 2 year gap

which… for some reason is a thing that happens. i leave a game for an extended period, come back, and I’m better at the cost of muscle memory loss

[proud tiger]

The fucking ghosts can go into the ditch XD

I hate them

My worst nemesis in the game istg

[latent bane]

honestly it’s just the last room that ate me up. regular encounters I can deal with

but my build was also not that great for fighting the shield guy which is why I walked out with no repair kits and 400-ish AP

[proud tiger]

Yea

Most of the mission is fine

But i still hate them

[latent bane]

my brain would rather see blurs than lose music.

got eye surgery tho so I haven’t had to deal with that game of tradeoffs for a year now

i will say lightweight with the Lance was very fun until I got hold of Rusty’s melee

[proud tiger]

I just read those two messages again

Is my brain broken

Why cant i write XD

[proud tiger]

Yeeee

My first playthrough i ended up with dual ludlow plus lance and missiles on a lightweight

I loved the thinf

[latent bane]

wonder if I still have the AC data for the build I finished NG+ in (quit before I started NG++ from burnout and other stuff going on at the time)

something to find out on Saturday I suppose

[proud tiger]

I wouldnt suppose so

The game sadly can only have a single save slot at the time

And if you start a new save while you have one already you have to delete it

[latent bane]

yeah I know that part, but isn’t AC data and the like stored separately as well? like the actual preset thing

I mean I got to keep my emblems after all, those were both parked in there for me

if it is there I won’t have the parts to load it but I should still be able to screenshot the list and preview image

[proud tiger]

Hmm, i dont know then

[latent bane]

mm it’s a hair wash night so I’ll check once I get out of the shower since I need my hair to dry before I go to sleep anyways

[proud tiger]

i wanted to post my build but i dotn have the game installed sadly

[latent bane]

i suspect i might have been testing something before i stopped playing.

(and good news, yes the AC data stays separate from save file as i suspected. it's likely stored with the emblems in the same area)

as promised, this is my emblems - third is the WIP that i'll be doing either this weekend or on the week after next (since i'll have that entire week off)

[proud tiger]

took a while but here it is ||the left hand weapons are nebula redshift and coral pulse blade, not standard||

[latent bane]

pile bunking Rimmy just feels like bullying lmfao

[late jay]

I think lightweights are pretty good at chasing down opponents and keeping up pressure tbh

[latent bane]

more that i expect with my skill level i'd be the annoying gnat that you just like
clap your hands together to crush

[late jay]

I actually have an older build I think you might like if you want a rushdown lightweight with more survivability for practice

[latent bane]

i don't intend to get into the pvp side, and my parts are limited to pre-sea spider at the moment - but if you want to send it, i bet I can learn from it

[late jay]

Right here

Ah, okay

[latent bane]

ooh, melander c3 head my beloved

actually one of my favorites aesthetic-wise

[late jay]

Honestly I originally just made it as a Harrison Armory cosplay design, but genuinely ended up liking it in a practical sense too

[latent bane]

huh, weapons aside (and inners because idfr the ones i used) that's actually not dissimilar to a Legally Distinct Gundam build I was rocking for fun at one point

[late jay]

Pffft

Noice

[latent bane]

i'll def look through those parts in more detail once i can grab them for learning purposes - though in my eyes that's a midweight, but that definition is subjective AF so

i don't think i've ever seen any two people in the ac6 community agree on a definition for weight classes (or even which stat they use to quantify it) and mine seem to be on the slimmer side from what i've seen

still, 'preciate you pointing me towards it. i like disassembling folks' builds and seeing what i can take from them as far as design qualities and combinations

[late jay]

Usually what I hear is less that 65k weight is a lightweight
65-85k is a midweight and anything above is a heavyweight

And that one is around 62k

[latent bane]

i've heard weight, load limit, QB/boost stats - i tend to be slimmer with my weight considerations than that (<55k lightweight, 55k-70k midweight, 70k+ heavyweight)

dig far enough i'm sure there's somebody who bases it off AP

the terms are incredibly subjective so they don't actually really mean much besides giving what general vibes you're going for

that said, it's about time (actually well past, but my hair took forever to dry) for me to sleep, so i'll depart with what I got together before I went into the infiltrate grid mission

(walter forgot to weatherproof the paint. not my fault)

i like using the tian head bc it looks like a space roomba. it being the lightest weight head actually was not a factor because the head just like... barely matters

[serene kettle]

Huh! reminds me uncannily of my NG+ build tbh between the color scheme and some of the parts

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/agoney-caras-gestos-cocinar-envolver-gif-19786601

[latent bane]

figured i'd go red (at least for now) to flip my previous one shown earlier having been blue-purple

[late jay]

Unironically, I kinda admire people who can play lightweights well

[latent bane]

what V.I Freud would like to do whenever he sees the skittering bug that is a lightweight

[late jay]

Pffft

[eager vector]

https://youtu.be/eciuWaaPPGE

this is the build I recommend for folks who want to have an easy time

[serene kettle]

I'm a big fan of the Ch1 oops all lasers build

it's a bit like the one above except with the LRs instead of Haldys and you just operate mostly at midrange since you don't need to get close for haldys

[proud tiger]

The only reason i dont like lasers too much is just how shit they are at dealing with bubbles it issnt too bad vs standard ACs or belteus, but ||slugteus|| was a fucking nightmare when i fought it with oops all lasers

[serene kettle]

I mean, that's probably the hardest boss in the game, but fair

[proud tiger]

Maybe, but it wasnt anywhere near as hars when i fought it with pure ballistics or any other build of mine

[eager vector]

I did everything my first time with Lance and PB and that one was rough lol || https://youtu.be/A3BJV_1Z4yM||

[serene kettle]

it's notably the only major boss besides Ice Worm that I haven't managed to beat with Chainsaw meme build, and not for lack of trying

[late jay]

The griddy hitter build

[proud tiger]

i cant belive ||you didnt try to kill him in the previous mission||

[paper ferry]

One of my favorite playthroughs was keeping the basic Loader 4 frame for the entire game (I improved the internals at least) while sticking to just the weapons that Walter’s hounds used. Here’s me fighting Arquebus Balteus:

https://youtu.be/ZRUazBFKov4?si=qTLbf-AYpJwvQDPx

I just like Loader 4 a lot. Friend-shaped.

[eager vector]

My first playthrough I may have missed that encounter lolol

[latent bane]

the loader 4 is friend shaped yeah
especially with the finder eye

finder head just gives off “silly little guy” vibes

[latent bane]

shooting swinburne the minute he drops his shield after accepting is still the funniest thing to me
punching him was even funnier

though i also never noticed he purges his arm weapons when he tries to parlay which is neat

[proud tiger]

I do love ayres comment when you do it XD

[proud tiger]

First time i went through the mission i litterly one shot him so hard none of his dialouge even had a chance to trigger, needless to say i was very confused

[eager vector]

https://youtu.be/7riW-QlSxjI

[latent bane]

RIP

i went to do the alt route for the other log and accidentally killed him before he could surrender lmao

he popped his last repair kit and INSTANTLY died to the pile bunker

[latent bane]

that comment is why it's one of my favorite moments. ayre's VA had the perfect tone there

i also love her "well. that was an adventure" if you do fight roku

[radiant birch]

I do love how Ayre is on board with that mercenary life

Like the uhh, the mission where you blow up all the fuel tanks, she's just like "let's make some extra cash, Raven 😊 "

[latent bane]

the fact she even brings it up first before you get to them
girl wants some extra company bucks, I respect it

“Walter, the lady in my head is being adorable.”

“…621, are you… nevermind. Focus on the mission.”

[proud tiger]

Walter thinking that not only did you go completly insane, but now also that you fell in love with the voices in your head

Poor walter seeing his adopted child start flirting with the voices XD

[serene kettle]

I'm glad they didn't do this because it'd get old pretty fast tinkering in the garage, but I like to imagine Ayre spends a lot of time cooing through parts catalogs when you're messing around with builds just to have something to do. "Raven! For only 10,000 more, this one has nearly twice as much ammunition capacity! Remember when we almost ran out on Grid 086? I just don't want you getting hurt."

[radiant birch]

"Raven, I think we should try using this bazooka. I like the explosions it makes."

[latent bane]

honestly I could see this happening post-Alea

[paper ferry]

Getting close to S-ranking all the missions

I’ve been recording some of my favorite fights

[paper ferry]

Ayre pilots an AC one time in a simulation and then decides it would be really cool if everyone could be in an AC and that’s how we get her version of Coral Release

Armored Core: End of Evangelion

[latent bane]

spent some time catching up on arena fights (i forgot about the D rank ones lmfao) and jesus christ
ring freddie got hit with a kiryu level "I'm not gonna sugarcoat it"

instant death by charged pile the second he got staggered

[radiant birch]

classic

[latent bane]

i forgot he was made of actual paper

[proud tiger]

normal ammo expenditure with miniguns XD

half of the mission payout going striahgt into ammunition

[latent bane]

i forgot ayre's just like
"we haven't had time without walter in a bit, take your time on this one :)"
on a date with the voice in my head in an abandoned haunted city <3

lammergeier torso remains the funniest thing to me
"yeah let's expose the pilot pod in the name of Aerodynamics"

[proud tiger]

listen

its your risk to pick it XD

they just provide the option

[latent bane]

oh i know, i just find it hilarious

schneider’s head of development must really love Going Fast

[serene kettle]

the fact that there are multiple Ayre date missions in the game is truly beautiful

[latent bane]

built the lammergeier like the mech equivalent of an F1 car

[proud tiger]

yall just down bad for teh voices in your heads i see :p/j

[serene kettle]

the haunted city one is mostly just making the best of an opportunity to hang out, but there's also just one where she sends you to a spooky cave to check out some cool relics

[latent bane]

she’s the best

[latent bane]

a voice in my brain wouldn’t be the weirdest thing I’ve fallen for… but it’s probably in the top 20

[proud tiger]

i do not dare ask waht yuo would place at number one freind/lh

[serene kettle]

a voice in your head that happens to be a master hacker

Hot take, I know, but skills are attractive

[latent bane]

the contents of that list are forever a secret to all but two people in my life

[latent bane]

shoutout to arena o'keeffe for managing to pop his pulse armor a second after taking a pile bunker to 3/4 of his health bar

he almost had it

[radiant birch]

pvp moment

[paper ferry]

Just got Platinum on AC6

[serene kettle]

Congrats!

[paper ferry]

Now I gotta play something else I guess

If only there was a sort of roleplaying game that would satiate my desire for mech combat

[latent bane]

rare Chatty W: he survived the w o r m

woe

[paper ferry]

From my favorite playthrough where I used a modified Loader 4

https://youtu.be/ZRUazBFKov4?si=_5i9TNeJf3Gpdny-

[latent bane]

my solution was to switch back to the TIAN head (rip lammergeier head) for the time being
could I have solved it by using the pile bunker instead of the Lance? yeah
but the Lance is fun

(side note: my EN load was strict enough that the above situation happened simply because I had both Ducketts equipped plus the Lance and the light pincer launcher)

[latent bane]

lammergeier head on firmeza core looks funny.
mech with no neck

[radiant birch]

Lammy head is fantastic for funky fashion

[wooden nimbus]

It even got the ipsn funny mono eye

[latent bane]

lowkey I wanna detach it and use it as either a roomba or a frisbee

maybe both.

[late jay]

Goes real far when you throw it

[proud tiger]

Yeee, alba torso pluus lamm head is nice

Im not near my pc but kasuar legs + nachtreiter arms with alba torso and lamm head is the current AC i have and it looks rad as hell imho

[wooden nimbus]

I feel like I should make a tank some time

[eager vector]

I tried to a tank only full playthrough and I stopped bc I wasn’t having fun

[wooden nimbus]

Oh I want it for seeing if I can uh

I've seen a wave of funny guys in ranked and I want to blow them up

Heavy dafeng core and usually some lightweight arms with handguns, sound chaser is getting very quickly stunned and then bagged with dual corals

I am wondering if I can make something that doesn't care about stun critical

[radiant birch]

Feel like a heavy energy weapon with high energy spec is the way to go for that

[latent bane]

well, i feel Accomplished
last time i ever took a swing at the michigan mission I had to change up my entire build to stand a chance. not this time

did i run out of missiles halfway thru the michigan portion? yes
did me and my pistols finish the rest with 2 spare repairs? also yes

[latent bane]

life lesson: no matter how fast you are, cel 240 is faster

took me less tries than the first go around though, so woo.

i forgot the container launcher existed

furlong: think fast chucklenuts launches an entire shipping container of missiles

[eager vector]

https://youtu.be/MulZAPDOrzE

https://youtu.be/LyHbcvdVBS0

first clear and then best clear lol

[latent bane]

i mean, those are both incredibly impressive but I was referring to the fact that my AC moves fast enough that I definitely put drugs in the combustion engine and CEL moves at twice that speed

[eager vector]

Oh yeah no I picked up on that. I wasn’t sharing these as like a counterpoint or correction or anything I just think they’re fun clips hahaha

[latent bane]

ah

those are fun clips. double melee is always fun even if I could never pull it off on anything mobile myself

side note I forgot that my relationship with the Laser Lance is actually a love hate relationship not just a love relationship

the tracking irks me on occasion and nowhere was it more noticeable than fighting CEL (and those Institute MTs on steroids to the right of the bridge)

it is still my beloved doom stab but. gah

[eager vector]

I’m a lot heavier than I need to be in those clips fwiw. Literally don’t use the grenade launcher in the second run, and the armor is mostly for fashion

[radiant birch]

fashion core 😤

[polar osprey]

fashion is everything

[latent bane]

these words ring true in all games but especially when you’re a three story tall mech with more funds than some governments

[late jay]

Speaking of which, what arms do you all think would look good with the Mind Beta head, Main Dish and Spring Chicken?

[radiant birch]

Tian-Qiang or VE-46A. commit to the chonk

[late jay]

I would if it didn't interfere with whatever weapons I pick

I'll give it a shot tho

[late jay]

Kinda liking this too ngl

[latent bane]

me switching to laser dagger specifically so i can have cool moments for the rusty fight

"there's no way the corps took the closure system" like the PCA didn't get absolutely manhandled after the initial shock wore off
like i know it's ayre but still. arquebus was probably working on taking the thing

well
the ending of the sol fight was tense and dramatic
i had about 800 AP left and she went in for the melee
i popped a pulse armor in the hopes i'd get it off first to kill or stun her and just BARELY survived

(also still very funny to me that raven tries to outrun the Fires)

[proud tiger]

carla says that cause she knows that they didnt, at the start of the missions she says that they are trying to, but are nowhere near

also, PCA getting manhandle was half the fault of getting double teamed adn half our fault XD

[proud tiger]

its implied that they survive too which is fucking crazy XD

[latent bane]

right?? like how tf you pull that one off girlie
still, it’s hilarious that they see the fires coming and just go
“oop. gotta go”

[latent bane]

we did have a habit of killing all their important units and in general ruining their day.
still, arquebus did yoink all their stuff so I imagine the only thing stopping them is actually getting back to orbit without getting Blasted + hijacking the system’s AI

love how balam absolutely shot themselves in the foot though

“we wanna take the BIG THING”

“y- you don’t want all the- yeah. sure, that works. agreed (nobody tell them, O’Keeffe shut up stop snickering)”

arquebus slips Walter a couple hundred thousand COAM to not send balam a message that they can be even punchier if they yoink the PCA’s fancy tech

[proud tiger]

i think the satelites may be operated by the central system of the PCA rather then people or drone operating software like the autonomous devices(which arquebus didnt actually manage to take over either, they only managed to get weapons and manned craft || plus slugteus, tho thats implied to have been basicly reverse engineered rather then taken other the actuall belteus||

balam are idiots tho yea

[proud tiger]

the power of the ultra lightwieght, outruns the fucking cataclysm