#Armored Core General!
late jay
Seen it
My friends got me into Solatarobo and it makes me wish there were grappling mechanics in Armored Core too
Probably just against MTs, it would most likely be pretty unfun in PvP
As much as it would be fun to just pile driver staggered ACs
wooden nimbus
Give me a grapnel launcher
unique bison
mech should have weird feet and look like a sport car or a fighter jet
that is the rule i live by
unique bison
what are we thinking of this color scheme ?
unique bison
okay so ui got back uin the game yesterday, lost most of my save (getting at the last mission of my first NG) and i just beat the first ending
now to the second
unborn igloo
what are we thinking of this color scheme ?
Nice shade of blue
The palette + nacht parts reminds me of Steel Haze but I'm biased
late jay
what are we thinking of this color scheme ?
Kinda reminds me of Flatwell's AC
Also kinda wondering if anyone here has favorite tracks from the older gen AC games, gen 1-3 specifically
I kinda like Beatmask from 2 and "I'll talk you" from Last Raven
serene kettle
have a deep cut
For Gen 1 I'm honestly struggling to pick one? 9, Circulation, Apex in Circle, Grip, Junk Mail, Shape Memory Alloys, High Fever, there are just too many good choices. The whole OST is burned into my brain
serene kettle
yeah, it's not a deep cut, but it is iconic for a damn good reason
late jay
Yea
serene kettle
Grip also goes insane as a final boss theme but gets overshadowed by 9 because...well, yeah.
late jay
Damn, reminds me of this game on LEGO.com I used to play as a kid that had banging music kinda like that
I think it was like a Technic car simulator
serene kettle
if you're interested in an actual deep cut though, how about Insurance Money? I think this one only plays sometimes in the Arenas (which AC1 itself notably didn't have, just Phantasma and MoA).
late jay
I think I also like Fake Facer from Formula Front which is also not surprising since everyone, including FromSoft, loves Fake Facer
serene kettle
lol
late jay
Considering they like to find any excuse to sneak it into future OSTs
late jay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlEzM2rAhrA
Omg, I forgot about this one, I love how it sounds like Sr Pelo is screaming the vocals
Shape Memory Alloys is another pretty obvious banger
Although I like FreQuency's mashup remix of that with Artificial Sky and No Crying from AC3
serene kettle
nice
Artificial Sky is really good in general though that's another "well duh" but for AC3
Speaking of AC3, how about Milk? it's so charming š
late jay
https://youtu.be/kx1L1OtRQC8?si=Fpme0yv7M7HH2goP
Kinda was thinking of this as my current character's theme in LANCER since they're a sad sentient robot going through hell and back
late jay
Speaking of AC3, how about Milk? it's so charming š
Also Fake Facer sounds like music for a Special Stage from the Sonic Games
And I feel like that adds to its charm for me
Especially for FreQuency's remix
For comparison-
latent forge
Crab
unborn igloo
Crab or chicken ?
Nautilus
unique bison
so like ? the wheelchair
late jay
What kind of animal or food do you all think this AC is shaped like btw?
unique bison
What kind of animal or food do you all think this AC is shaped like btw?
I personally belives that mech should be crabs
(Merch carnization is really)
late jay
Kinda, I feel like that would be more the case if I was using the Verril legs
unborn igloo
unborn igloo
wooden nimbus
I need armored core 6.5: fires of twobicon
regal wing
i need to know what rusty was doing in the final route
regal wing
LMAO
regal wing
late jay
Kinda wondering if I should paint this like a plum color along with some vermillion accents
Can't really think of any sort of food or animal it could be like
Since I like to name my ACs after either food or animals
radiant birch
AC: PURPLE RAIN
late jay
I'd go with that if I was using plasma
Also, I think I got an idea
These little bastards
They're so cute
I love beebles
late jay
I could name my AC "Diabolicus" after these cuties
eager vector
omg I love it
wooden nimbus
Finally, a bug I can hug safely
latent forge
Iron clad beetle mentioned!
late jay
Ye
radiant birch
No one:
Me, under my breath to myself at work: "wall... stain... flick... teardrop..."
I haven't even played gen 5 but that song still gets stuck in my head
late jay
I hope I have enough time this weekend to play and paint my AC finally, been pretty stressed because I started college again
late jay
I think I'm too stressed to play Armored Core nowadays with college
surreal haven
spoilers
Fuck you, OVERSEER! ||If you're dumb enough to buy a new FCS this weekend, you're a dumb enough tourist to come to Big Bill Hell's Closure Satellite!
Bad PVP, bosses that break you! Ayre! If you think you can find an S rank at Big Bill's, you can kiss my ass! It's our belief that you're such a low ACS motherfucker, you'll stun to this bullshit, GUARANTEED! If you find a better build, shove it up your ugly ass! That's right, shove it up your ugly ass! Bring your tray, bring your AC, bring your Coral, WE'LL FUCK HER. That's right, we'll fuck your Coral! Because at the Closure Satellite, you're fucked six ways from Sunday! Take a hike to Big Bill's: Home of CHALLENGE MISSING - that's right - CHALLENGE MISSING. How does it work? If you can shoot 6 missiles in the air, straight up, and NOT miss one, you get NO down payment! Don't wait, don't delay, don't fuck with us, or we'll rip your augments off. Only at the Closure Satellite, the only arena that tells you to FUCK OFF. HURRY UP ASSHOLE! This event ends the MINUTE after a regulation update comes out, and it better not buff or you're a DEAD motherfucker. GO TO HELL. Big Bill Hell's closure satellite: Rubicon's filthiest and exclusive to the meanest sons-of-bitches on the planet of Rubicon - GUARANTEED.||
friend was streaming ac6 to the group and the need to write this overcame me
late jay
Noice
late jay
I got straight into Armored Core after Soulsbornen Ring, so yea
light garden
I've been fighting a bunch of people with LOADER 4 as their AC names. Not sure why.
keen hedge
That's the default, no?
light garden
Is it? I don't remember.
late jay
Yeah, it's the default
They're either testing AC builds, don't know how to change the name and/or can't come up with a better name
light garden
That would explain why they've (mostly) been terrible
light garden
Woo! Rank C.
late jay
Noice
radiant birch
i should go back into ranked, i got up to my promotion phase and then just stopped playing for a while
late jay
I should start PvP again once I can relax enough in college
late jay
Should I forgo the Pile Bunker on this build btw? I feel like the melee specialization on the Melander C3 isn't cutting it to make it a proper finisher, and I put the Ransetsu-RF in my right hand to help me finish the job which is a little awkward tbh
Although I do find the RF, charged burst to be reliably effective for finishing after the PB
light garden
Should I forgo the Pile Bunker on this build btw? I feel like the melee speciali...
If you'd like to test it out I could help.
pearl mason
||Enough grass, it is meaningless now||
polar osprey
lol
late jay
If you'd like to test it out I could help.
Okay, I'll let you know whenever I'm available
late jay
Probably won't be tonight
polar osprey
back on my bullshit in ACFA
optimizing Dash Pinion a bit
well, as much as a fucker of a creation like Dash Pinion can be optimized
light garden
Probably won't be tonight
No worries. I've been keeping myself entertained climbing the ranks.
polar osprey
least fucked up NEXT design tbh
swapped out the rockets because as much as it was a funny meme they are just like, not really that good
made it less powerful in the boost department, but i can pretty indefinitely fly with it now
and it has better lock on range
without sacrificing much in terms of lock on speed
polar osprey
missile launchers
radiant birch
nice
polar osprey
the ones on the arms
using the gatling cannons for my back weapons
since weight is uh, not a problem really
Dash Pinion, in spite of its fast and sleek sounding name, is an Ultra-Heavyweight NEXT
radiant birch
it is an absolute unit
polar osprey
it is
basically the chunkiest NEXT i could make on two legs
anything bigger would mean tank
radiant birch
there is something very funny about a NEXT being ultra-heavyweight and still moving Like That
polar osprey
yup
polar osprey
Dash Pinion would make anything in AC6 look like a joke
was thinking of maybe swapping out the shoulder parts for more missiles but i kinda like the PA rectifiers
radiant birch
now admittedly i don't know a lot about how 4th gen's systems work
are you able to just kind of poke with the missiles? do they have a lock-on time seperate from your NEXT's general targeting?
because i could see there being some value in being able to potshot with the missiles and then having the gatlings for sustained fire
polar osprey
they do have a separate lock on speed but no you can't really
unlike in AC6 you cannot use handheld and back weapons at the same time
and the shoulder missiles only work when you are using the hand missiles
well, i assume they work with back missiles as well
but they only work when you are using missiels
you basically toggle them on, and when you shoot missiles, they also shoot missiles
radiant birch
oh i see
polar osprey
there's a few different things you can have equipped on your shoulders
radiant birch
i didn't realize that shoulder pieces and back weapons were different things here š showing my sixth gen provincialism i guess
polar osprey
missiles, a shotgun, flash rockets, flares, ECM, PA rectifier, side boosters
radiant birch
i do hope that in whatever follow-up to AC6 ends up coming along that we get more nitty-gritty in terms of available parts and slots
radiant birch
i understand wanting to simplify things a bit for the sake of reintroducing the series, but. i like playing with my toys. the more the better
polar osprey
7 weapon slots, 4 boosters, tuning, stabilizers
there's a lot of shit to play with
absolute unit of a NEXT either way
huh
Patch the Good Luck is the only collared match i haven't done
there we go
30/30
kinda wanna git gud at ACFA
light garden
That's a chonky lad.
polar osprey
trying out some melee in AC6 cause i haven't fucked with it enough
my melee AC, Double Sunrise, can do some nasty work
eager vector
melee in ac6 is delicious
I struggle to run builds that donāt stagger punish with melee
radiant birch
it is deeply satisfying
polar osprey
My favourite melee build i've made remains Nuclear Whiplash
light garden
I tried out all the different melee weapons but I keep coming back to the default one.
polar osprey
Simply peak
Its successor, Nuclear Collision, is also good
Much better for actual pvp
Generally just a better AC at the compromise of speed
Nuclear Whiplash is disgustingly fast
While Nuclear Collision is merely incredibly fast
light garden
It's funny. I've made a midweight build that can outlast lighter ACs and outmaneuver heavier ones, but it's not super great at dealing with other midweight ACs.
light garden
I've not actually tried to make a lightweight build in 6. I made a heavier one to just explode bosses, but that's it.
polar osprey
I fought all of the final bosses in the game with Nuclear Whiplash
Was NOT easy lemme tell you
light garden
I had to replay the campaign a fourth time simply because I kept picking the other one and forgetting about that.
light garden
Oh yeah I beat it forever ago.
polar osprey
Gonnq be a lot of time before i finish the s-ranks
light garden
Then couldn't figure out why I didn't have all the missions.
polar osprey
There are a lot of missions that just suuuuuuck to do s-rank on
light garden
Yep.
polar osprey
it's the only achievement i'm missing
light garden
I need to get all the combat logs and get the last of the gear I'm missing.
winter sigil
it took me like 60 tries to beat Michigan the first time 
then when I went back I s-ranked it first try lol
light garden
I only ever lost a couple of the missions that just throw you against an AC.
Like Defend the Dam Complex.
winter sigil
in my defense Intercept the Redguns does not just throw you against an AC
it throws you against the entire MT clown car
light garden
I guess I just don't see anything that's not an AC or giant machine as that big of a deal.
polar osprey
500 mt's and then Michigan after when you have no ammo left
winter sigil
and two tetrapods
light garden
That's what missiles, a melee weapon, and kicking is for.
polar osprey
when i fought them with Ruber i ran out of missiles and bullets
tried punching Michigan several times
radiant birch
then when I went back I s-ranked it first try lol
no but literally, in my NG playthrough i got walled on Intercept the Redguns and wound up going with the other mission instead
...and then in NG+ i suddenly breezed through it
i think playing a lightweight build helped a lot. never stop never stopping
radiant birch
i tended to settle on a "main" build per playthrough, but i also did a lot of experimenting
i just love playing with my AC parts like lego blocks. can't help myself
had more than one instance where i settled in to tinker with an idea and then when i looked at the clock 2+ hours had gone by and i was late getting to bed
light garden
I improved on my build as I went through the game
Like I mostly use Mind Alpha and Ephemera parts.
eager vector
I gravitate really hard toward three builds:
- midweight zimm+lance+pilebunker
- midweight laser handgun/rifle/plasma spam with auroras or LCS
- lamm hover demon with either dual haldys and dual LCS or all missiles
polar osprey
i really love machine guns because i can hold down the triggers
eager vector
I love shotguns because I donāt have to squeeze them often lolol
light garden
I like using a gatling gun instead of the HMG but it's just so much heavier...
light garden
Woo! That's all combat logs.
late jay
Hell yea
late jay
@light garden I think I'm down now actually, you wanna VC in one of the voice channels here?
light garden
I am currently indisposed of due to gastrointestinal issues. My apologies.
eager vector
I gravitate really hard toward three builds:
1. midweight zimm+lance+pilebunker...
the lamm hover demon is nuts btw https://youtu.be/pPt_UKJqisU?si=4fVL2WzjIp7oibNr
late jay
wooden nimbus
Yoooo
late jay
New postcard from Rubicon
wooden nimbus
Wish You Were Here
late jay
Gave the Dafeng Trainee a nice Rubiconian Handshake as a warm welcome
late jay
Also, that AC I made there requires surprisingly tight reflexes
The window to PB most staggered enemies is surprisingly small, but it's so satisfying once I pull it off
eager vector
The window to PB most staggered enemies is surprisingly small, but it's so satis...
stagger duration can vary depending on what causes the stagger, worth noting
radiant birch
Do we have compiled data on that somewhere?
late jay
Would kicks be more effective than my guns then?
In terms of setting up a PB punish
Considering that I'm already going to be within 30 meters if I kick them directly
And my AC has some pretty hefty kicks at 90k weight
Also the 12345 boosters have pretty decent AB thrust as well
eager vector
@late jay what weapons are you using to stagger? And are you doing the charge slide with your pb?
late jay
@eager vector I'm using the Attache with the Ransetsu-RF mainly along with the heavy dual swarm missiles for some more burst
Also thinking of painting my new AC based on this
eager vector
@late jay what about the charge slide
late jay
@eager vector With the RF? I save that as a finisher following a PB punish
Since the RF has pretty high direct damage and has a burst-fire mode, I think it works both for building and punishing stagger
eager vector
<@184867858013093888> With the RF? I save that as a finisher following a PB puni...
No I mean do you slide while you charge the pb
late jay
Oh, yeah
late jay
Melee boosting isn't as effective with the 12345 boosters, but AB boosting into a PB works just fine
I'd use the NGI boosters instead if the Main Dish had the EN adjustment to support the San-Tai, so I'm running the Hokushi instead
late jay
Thankfully the Hokushi got buffed with improved EN recovery to make it more like a slower Yaba while keeping its core mechanic of high EN output and quick recharge speed when you haven't emptied out your EN entirely
eager vector
I should play with Hokushi more
late jay
It's very fun
eager vector
@late jay I think the reason youāre seeing shorter stagger windows is that damage shortens it. So if you stagger with rapid fire weapons, the shots that hit after the stagger window opens reduce the amount of time you have to get the PB off
eager vector
Ideally you want to swap left hand to PB before you get the stagger, then get the stagger with something that deals a chunk of impact at once, like a shotgun blast
Single RF shot would work, but the impact chunk from one shot is small enough that youād have to be skilled
late jay
Wb the RF's burst fire?
eager vector
Wb the RF's burst fire?
Like the kick, it depends on the recovery frames afterward
if it takes so long after executing it that you canāt quickly go into the AB cancel PB charge, you havenāt gained any time
late jay
I don't really need to AB for the PB follow-up after a kick since I'm already right there
radiant birch
Ideally you want to swap left hand to PB before you get the stagger, then get th...
This is how I built VECTOR--Ransetsu in the left hand to build up stagger steadily, then swap to laser lance to prepare as I push them over the line with my right hand Zimm
late jay
I might need to QB occasionally if the kick isn't direct and I veer off to the side however
Thanks btw
late jay
What missions would you say are the best for testing my ACs btw?
At least testing them for PvP anyways
winter sigil
ng++ Nightfall mission, three ACs at once/in succession
the thing about PVP is that a good player is just, better and more predictable than any of the AI fights
late jay
Okay
winter sigil
I like to take a run at the S rank arena fights too
late jay
ng++ Nightfall mission, three ACs at once/in succession
Wb the one with Carla and Chatty ganking you?
Or the NG++ version of Institute City?
late jay
Fair
serene kettle
Yeah, Defend the Dam is probably the purest tough sequential AC fight practice you're getting
patent oyster
Yeah, Defend the Dam is probably the purest tough sequential AC fight practice y...
I reckon coral convergence alt is tougher
4 ACs without a resupply sherpa
serene kettle
Maybe so but I wouldn't say it's pure š
it's not a bad option for a stress test though
glad sierra
Ok, took some readjustment. More than i care to admit. But i think āgetā shotguns now. Still feel kinda weird to me. Dunno if iām gonna stick with em
Also, and this is probably telling on myself a bit, but were there any arena fights yāall struggled with?
serene kettle
First playthrough? Maeterlinck and Volta were the big ones.
Maeterlinck is so much tougher than the rest of her tier it's amazing
and Volta's just a brick shithouse who can hit very hard
Carla's also on the tough side though I think it still only took a couple of tries
winter sigil
I think I oneshotted the entire arena, or close enough that I don't remember fighting any a bunch of times
glad sierra
I keep hearing Carla is a pain in the ass
serene kettle
She's definitely one of the more notable arena opponents - she's probably the first time the player will encounter the kinds of tricky missiles she uses which can throw you off.
glad sierra
Good to keep in mind for the future
radiant birch
Oh yeah, Carla is rough
Just missiles missiles missiles all day
It's been a long time since my first playthrough but I do remember Maeterlinck and Volta being tough
polar osprey
love me missiles
radiant birch
Maeterlinck is evasive and has a shield to eat hits when you do manage to tag her; Volta is just a bottomless pit of AP and stability with decent firepower
I still use Volta as a stress test for new builds to see how they handle damage sponge-y opponents
glad sierra
It feels like itās been forever since i fought him, but i think i remember Maeterlinck being annoying. Or at least more trouble than i was expecting
cursive agate
Also, and this is probably telling on myself a bit, but were there any arena fig...
I remember Hawkins being rough because I was running a mostly energy build. Volta is an unplesant fight overall because of firepower and bulk.
glad sierra
Was about to say
So far, the one that iāve had the most trouble with was Hawkins
Just dealt with him, thought it took longer than iād care to admit
cursive agate
Charged Laser Cannon fires off suprisingly fast
glad sierra
Hits like freight train too
Learned the hard way i really need to reevaluate how i handle dodging in this game
radiant birch
Volta is honestly the main reason that the (NG+ spoilers) ||alt Attack the Dam mission sucks as much as it does. Having to beat him when you're already worn down is a p a i n||
glad sierra
Gonna hold off on that one. Got spoiled on enough as is
Right now iām just trying to make sure i got hawkins down. Like make sure i can do it again and again
serene kettle
Maeterlinck is evasive and has a shield to eat hits when you do manage to tag he...
Maeterlinck also has a FASAN and if you're still in the part of the game where you haven't fully mastered aerial moment and are staying low, she'll catch you in the splash consistently even if you dodge.
it's also just kind of a rough map if you haven't got the hang of aerial movement yet due to the awkward lips and dishes
glad sierra
Alright. I think i got this fight truly figured out now
Man, this game fucking rules
Why i take so long booting it up?
eager vector
Maeterlinck _also_ has a FASAN and if you're still in the part of the game where...
Oh thatās why I didnāt struggle. My first playthrough was RJs
winter sigil
RJs <3
polar osprey
reverse joint my beloved
radiant birch
boing boing boing
glad sierra
Iāll admit, i didnāt care much for RJs when i started. Now it feels weird using anything else
eager vector
Wish I could!
late jay
late jay
Drew this beetle as part of my Biology assignment
late jay
I find it kinda funny how many mech just seem like a big weird bug to me now that I think about it
eager vector
bug is justice
radiant birch
Like a mech, a bug has an armored exoskeleton and can sometimes fly
glad sierra
I was gonna say that bugs donāt have pile bunkers, but does a beeās stinger count?
radiant birch
i'd compare the pile bunker more to a bullet ant sting but yes
("bullet ant" so named because getting stung by one apparently hurts as much as getting shot)
late jay
Anyone still up?
languid sand
Dual scudders go hard not gonna lie
eager vector
I should play around with kasuars more
late jay
I just remembered why I don't like playing lightweights
Too fragile
And with the AB shuffling tech I learned, it kinda makes them pointless
eager vector
I need to work on my AB shuffling
I feel like Iām not good enough at energy management to use it
wooden nimbus
Felt
My definition of energy management is "it's okay my generator will come back on in a second"
late jay
Same
pearl mason
i finally got it
pearl mason
Now what?
I can't afford ac6 so i supposed that i should play veredict day
glad ocean
Hello! Just got armored core 6, and would like some advice for dealing with the smart cleaner?
radiant birch
Hello! Just got armored core 6, and would like some advice for dealing with the ...
imo easiest way to get past it is to build something that can stay in the air (tetrapod legs and/or boosters with good upward thrust) and target the opening on top of it
i found that a lot easier to hit than its face, plus staying in the air keeps you out of reach of its big arm sweeps and molten slag AoEs
glad ocean
imo easiest way to get past it is to build something that can stay in the air (t...
Fair enough; I've been trying to use a double Ludlow double vertical launchers build for it, and I've gotten close, but I've been consistently getting backed into a corner. Going bazooka boat or something might be easier, I suppose.
radiant birch
yeah honestly i'd take rifles (Turner and/or Ransetsu-AR) over Ludlow for that fight; getting in close to smart cleaner is Not A Good Time
bazookas will work too if you're good at timing your shots
glad ocean
Gonna be honest, I don't usually like the Turner... Might just have to accept the skill issue and bite the bullet.
modern hornet
Fair enough; I've been trying to use a double Ludlow double vertical launchers b...
Might wanna ditch the vertical launchers for something that Stances you to help stay in the air with weapon recoil. The Smart Cleaner is fought in an enclosed area, after all, and vertical missiles are hard to hit with in such conditions. Plenty of things hanging from the ceiling for them to detonate prematurely on.
glad ocean
Might wanna ditch the vertical launchers for something that Stances you to help ...
I've found that you have to stay on the ground for them to work properly, but they are able to be used...
But yeah, brute force is not how to play an armored core game.
modern hornet
A Tetrapod with double Ransetsu-RFs and double Songbirds can stay in the air basically forever as long as you abuse Weapon Recoil (the Burst Rifles lock you in a Firing Stance and fire in a three-round burst when charged and the Songbirds stance you just for pressing the fire button) when you redline to let your generator recharge. This setup also works wonders a couple missions down the line.
Songbirds fire two grenades one after another, so packing two of them and firing in sequence actually gives you more hang time while airborne than any other Firing Stance weapon in the game.
winter sigil
whenever i fight the smart cleaner i just fly around the top target shooting down into it with dual turners lol
modern hornet
I'm fond of Curtis + Ransetsu-RF Double Trigger, personally.
Gives plenty of firepower and longevity for literally any mission in the game.
eager vector
Dual VVC plasma rifles are goated in that mission
and I believe the cleaner is weak to energy
glad ocean
and I believe the cleaner is weak to energy
That's good to know!
polar osprey
Now what?
I can't afford ac6 so i supposed that i should play veredict day
Verdict Day is great is what i've heard
Unfortunately doesn't emulate so i can't play it
glad ocean
I BEAT THE CLEANER!!
radiant birch
congrats!
glad ocean
Made a laser blade, laser rifle, plasma cannon build with some vertical rockets on the other shoulder (it's what I had at the time).
On a tetrapod, I should have mentioned
eager vector
3 -> Silent Line -> Nexus -> Last Raven
Theyāre so so good
late jay
Is there an emulator for them that I can transfer saves through so I can carry over AC parts, or is there a modded port for PC?
eager vector
I may be able to track something down tomorrow or Tuesday
late jay
Also noticing a sudden resurgence in Formula Front???
Game looks awesome, just feels out of nowhere is all
south oracle
Got I just want a remake of their earlier gen
Just give them a slightly graphic fix up, or don't, but also update the menu UI
late jay
I know people really want HD remakes of the 3rd Gen games
Altogether as one game sounds fun
serene kettle
Altogether as one game would be weird - you'd definitely have to make some adaptational choices
3+Silent Line and Nexus+Last Raven are almost different gens in how they play
late jay
I know Last Raven kinda encourages you to have played the other games first to carry over your save to the end
late jay
I guess I feel like at least 3 and Silent Line should be bundled together
Since Silent Line is a direct follow-up
Something that would be awesome is a mega bundle remake of the 3rd Gen games where they refine the mechanics and controls along with Ninebreaker as a sort of "True Arena" bonus like the Kirby games and Formula Front as a side mode
Also Ninebreaker but not requiring you to complete all the training exercises to progress
cursive agate
The concept of training exercises is interesting to me, but Ninebreaker stretches it out way too much
serene kettle
Yeah if ninebreaker were an optional set of AC test courses attached to a more substantial game, I think it'd be less loathed for sure š
wet shard
late jay
Me in Trigonometry class
glad ocean
hey, how do you find people in NEST?
radiant birch
ranked is the closest there is to a "quickplay" option, if you don't wanna do that then there's not much for it but to search for rooms and hope
i haven't been in PVP for a hot minute but i'd imagine the population's down a bit since there haven't been any updates for a while
glad ocean
how long are wait times for an unranked newb?
late jay
Idk, was honestly thinking of opening up a private lobby for everyone here sometime
Been too busy with college tho
glad ocean
fair. I'll ask again when I have a build that isn't newbie floundering.
wooden nimbus
What platform are you all (I'm PC)
Because technically if there's enough pilots here we could always schedule shit
surreal vine
people scheduled games on PC around Rubicon launch yeah
here
(I am also a PC raven)
wooden nimbus
Honestly if Nightreign succeeds I hope they give AC a similar treatment, give us a coop game we can play together n all
languid sand
I could just go for acVerdict day again
serene kettle
AC Verdict Day's special sorties were a bit like that, yeah
languid sand
The boss fights were neat
very raid boss esq
The music was also incredible
Verdict day was better than it get's credit for being
languid sand
Definitley my favourite final boss (sorry nineball)
serene kettle
I mean, they didn't slip IX at the end of the boss's name for no reason š
glad ocean
What platform are you all (I'm PC)
I'm on PC too! Does it not have crossplay?
wooden nimbus
I don't believe so
wooden nimbus
I could just go for acVerdict day again
Don't give me hope
glad ocean
I'm going to try streaming in ISP-N hangout, because my current build is not working against the cleaner, and I'm not sure if it's a skill issue or a build issue.
Anyone interested in helping?
eager vector
PS4 
late jay
Btw, did I ever show anyone Core?
radiant birch
Btw, did I ever show anyone **Core**?
Core?
languid sand
THEY PUTTING THE G1 ARMORED GAMES ON PLAYSTATION PLUS
eager vector
the what?
languid sand
The PS1 armored core games
late jay
Wondering if I should get into Formula Front since it doesn't require any direct controls
And I like making builds just to experiment
languid sand
i agree that it's bullshit but i have to confess to being tempted
Same
radiant birch
i don't think i'd spring for the PS1 games, but if they ever added the 2nd/3rd gen games...
eager vector
Itās a harder sell when I have physical copies of those and a backwards compatible ps3
eager vector
very true
late jay
I got an extra day off college, so I might be able to play more Armored Core this weekend
eager vector
hell ya
radiant birch
It's always a good day for more Armored Core
late jay
Okay, one and a half technically because my teacher had to cancel due to his house getting flooded
serene kettle
well that's a rather unfortunate reason for a holiday
late jay
Yeahhh
late jay
I love the Curtis + Dagger
radiant birch
dagger's underrated tbh
i know weapon swapping for melee cooldown is the style these days but the dagger cools so fast it doesn't really need it, and the triple hit combo does nasty damage on a stagger punish
had some really good PVP matches running this build
late jay
Noice
late jay
dagger's underrated tbh
So is the Curtis
radiant birch
absolutely
i maintain that people don't adequately appreciate that the Curtis can fire a charged shot without overheating
put that on some quad legs and let the magic happen
late jay
Also got nasty combos with the Laser Dagger too
cursive agate
I've been using the Curtis more in builds that can't afford the downtime after a Harris shot.
late jay
This build moves so fast that I had to turn off Motion Blur, and even then it's still hard what to see what I'm doing
polar osprey
I should try Nuclear Whiplash with motion blur on to see how incomprehrnsible things get with it
It's the fastest ac i could make that was still capable of somewhat proper fighting
late jay
I think my brain is just too fried from college to play Armored Core nowadays
glad sierra
pardon if this is a dumb question, but there are drones in this game? somehow haven't come across that
cursive agate
There's a laser drone, laser turret, and a two Orbit weapons.
late jay
Balam has the Huxley which is a close-range bullet Orbit Drone, Allmind has the ORBT which is a mid-range laser version, the Arquebus laser turret drones and the VCPL seeking laser drones
glad sierra
Ooo, those sound neat. Are they any good or are they more of a āf around with em for funā type deal?
radiant birch
Huxley is extremely popular for extra stagger buildup on close-range builds
the others... they're fine? i've run builds with the ORBT and the VCPL and they're decent enough
i've never really been interested in the laser turret drones but i see somebody break them out occasionally
late jay
The VCPL Drones are pretty popular
glad sierra
Sounds like something to look forward to.
Carla is beginning to grow on me, which I think is gonna be real unfortunate in the near future
As an aside ||should i be worried about hidden parts? Found my first one in the āSurvey the Uninhabited Floating Cityā mission and now Iām worried Iām missing out on some hype shit.|| sorry if this one of those things that doesnāt really need to be spoiler tagged
radiant birch
i mean you don't need hidden parts by any means, they can be kind of fun though
they are also, generally, kind of a pain in the ass to find without looking up their locations unless you happen to trip over them in the course of play
glad sierra
Hot damn, thatās a chunky boy
glad sierra
they are also, generally, kind of a pain in the ass to find without looking up t...
Thatās a weight off my shoulders somewhat. Also, yeah, canāt imagine scouring all the levels for these is the most thrilling hunt in the world
late jay
Hot damn, thatās a chunky boy
*girl :3
glad sierra
My b. Das a chunky girl right there
glad sierra
It does, in fact, look sick as fuck
late jay
Thank
late jay
Which FCS do you all think would be better for this btw, P05 or the WLT?
I got the EN to spare for the WLT, too much I feel in fact
cursive agate
WLT is great for mid-range if it doesn't eat too much capacity, P05 is the budget version.
late jay
Aight
I suppose the WLT will be better since this AC is also pretty slow and might have trouble with enemies that dip in and out of her range otherwise
late jay
Plus it'll let me be able to snipe better at the edge of my lock-on
glad ocean
I just beat the ice worm!
cursive agate
Noice
late jay
Hell yea
late jay
Any missions or arena combatants I should take on to stress test my ultra heavyweight?
radiant birch
Rusty and Volta for the extremes of "fragile but fast as fuck" and "absolute damage/impact sponge"
and Defend the Dam Complex is a classic choice for stress-testing builds
serene kettle
yeah those are good picks
radiant birch
if you want to test more general mission performance with less focus on fighting other ACs you could also do... i think the mission that ends in the fight against the Cleaner would be a good one for that?
but tbh i think 95% of the stress from non-boss mission gameplay comes from either "do i have a way to clear out groups of trash mobs quickly" or "do i have the ammo to make it through a mission without losing my build"
serene kettle
Grid 086 without the supply sherpa is a decent one if you wanna test for resource management/staying power
late jay
if you want to test more general mission performance with less focus on fighting...
I love that mission
Wb "Intercept The Redguns"?
serene kettle
Similar to Grid 086 as an endurance round, yeah.
late jay
that's some good fashion
Agreed
wooden nimbus
Very cool
late jay
Would the NG+ Galia Dam Raid be good as a stress test too?
radiant birch
Is that the alt Attack the Dam Complex with Iguazu and Volta?
late jay
Yea
late jay
Technically 2 on 1 if you don't delete Iguazu first thing like I usually do
Since he's ironically easy pickings
I'm sorry, but he's kind of a shitty pilot
cursive agate
It pains me that Iguazu dosen't swap the linear rifle/SMG around so he can charge shots with shield up.
late jay
He can't fire the charged shots with his shield up
His build with the ALLMIND gear is better anyways since it allows him to apply more pressure
The one he uses in Watchpoint Alpha and Institute City in NG++
cursive agate
Yea, I mean in terms of not losing everything when shield is up + charging, unlike his current config
late jay
Mind Gamma seems like a better combination of the two as well
cursive agate
More functional at mid-range
late jay
Ditching the 4 Cell missiles for the ORBT
That too
And he gets RJ kicks too
And that Karasawa is quite scary too
cursive agate
Extremely unplesant when it lands, and isn't limited by ammo
late jay
Pffft, yea
serene kettle
I mean, having all the pieces to be the guy and being too much of a loser to do so is basically Iguazu's theme
š
late jay
Pretty much
restive raft
Anyone in the US been able to buy/receive (or intending to) the tabletop RPG for AC6?
https://fujimi-trpg-online.jp/special/trpgac6/
If so, how are you going about it?
late jay
I feel like the Wrecker legs go well with the NGI boosters
Since they're both meant for the lower end of heavyweight to leave room for some much needed mobility
And I like to load up my ACs as much as possible
radiant birch
I haven't tried that combo yet, but it sounds intriguing
wooden nimbus
Oh right I figure y'all would appreciate this shot
late jay
"Kiss kiss kiss!"
wooden nimbus
Also I still think it's very funny to just see "EVIL" emblazoned on the front plate of my mech like that
I will say this mech is fun but it STRUGGLES against numbers, phase one of Alea Iacta Est is agony
eager vector
I will say this mech is fun but it STRUGGLES against numbers, phase one of Alea ...
You know you donāt have to kill all the adds right?
wooden nimbus
Yes
It just turns into "you want to see me get staggered, you want to see it again" lol
polar osprey
Dafeng Trainee on his villain arc soon
late jay
I think he's too dead to have any more arcs
radiant birch
DLC main villain is the trainee back for revenge
late jay
It would be funny if he survived just to fail every mission he went on
late jay
Or even better, miraculously surviving and completing every mission despite being a bad pilot, but because of that, never learning a damn thing and never improving
radiant birch
infinite luck to counter the G13 curse
given that the whole "kid falls into the cockpit" mecha trope is about being in the right place in the right time, i could see uncanny good luck being relevant
late jay
Boss fight involves him accidentally getting sucked into an IBIS, becoming one with it
Btw, I really wish we had a cross between the consort system from 3rd Gen and UNACs from 5th for custom MT squads
I would like Weevils backing me up
late jay
Btw, I really wish we had a cross between the consort system from 3rd Gen and UN...
I think something like this would be good as an alternative to other players in multiplayer focused missions where you would need backup
late jay
Although it would be awesome for one mission that involves multiple players and their MT squads combined for a large scale battle
wooden nimbus
I just want NPC me to invade at the end of missions like how NPC mechs sometimes appear in DXM missions
late jay
Closest we got is Rokumonsen
late jay
I like how despite my AC being a heavyweight, it's still around the same size as a mediumweight
wooden nimbus
wait why am I huge
late jay
You got lomg birb legs
late jay
And the remnants of a space shuttle for your core
pearl mason
77 usd for the Nightfall and Rusty model kits of 30mm is too expensive?
wooden nimbus
I like my shuttle core š
late jay
Does anyone use the Ming-Tang generator btw?
cursive agate
I tend to take the Yaba, or VP-20C generators before Ming-Tang. Seems to have solid stats if your build can handle the extra weight.
wooden nimbus
I'm in YABA gang rn
late jay
Yaba's cool
I like the Hokushi and San-Tai most personally
I always run the San-Tai with the NGI boosters since they eat up quite a bit of my reserves whenever I boost, and I want to be able to do that as much as possible
late jay
I think they added a special animation for AB Shuffling???
I just noticed that my AC kicks the air a bit with its leg thrusters whenever I successfully AB Shuffle
Turning regularly while assault boosting seems to just tilt your AC to the side without kicking back
late jay
Pretty proud of that last screenshot too btw
radiant birch
cool ACs don't look at explosions
radiant birch
tfw you go over to someone's house because they "love AC" and it turns out they don't actually play FromSoftware's iconic mecha action series but at least the house is nice and cool
late jay
tfw you go over to someone's house because they "love AC" and it turns out they ...
Invite HP Lovecraft over to torment him with air conditioning
late jay
Anyone else doing stuff with their mechs?
radiant birch
I have not, alas, had a lot of AC6 time lately
I've been following some stuff on YouTube though
Flexing on the game by repeatedly speedrunning a particularly tough boss fight is popular
There's one person who's committed to beating Balteus every day until AC7 gets announced
polar osprey
I beat the final bosses with my ultra lightweight AC which is enough flwxing for me
radiant birch
I'm not sure I'm good enough at the game to flex š
I was good enough to get through NG++, that's enough for me
late jay
Okey
radiant birch
I suppose I could still try S-ranking every mission to get those last achievements.
But that... seems like a lot.
late jay
I already got Perfect Mercenary
polar osprey
S-ranking everything is the bane of my existence
radiant birch
...I do want to okay AC4 and ACFA at some point
Maybe they'll get remasters in the time it takes me to get around to that š
polar osprey
I think if i forced myself to s-rank every mission i would never play AC6 again after tbh
late jay
I ended up playing through Elden Ring again after that before coming back to AC6 for PvP
serene kettle
Honestly most of the s ranks breezed by
There were like half a dozen tricky ones that made up the lionās share of attempts
polar osprey
Yeah but i've found the tricky ones to be utterly dismal
late jay
The ones I had the hardest time with were the BAWS Arsenal Investigation and Coral Release
serene kettle
Yeah I had an absolutely vicious time with BAWS Arsenal
BAWS Arsenal, Attack the Refueling Base, Regain Control of the Xylem, Coral Export Denial, and the Ice Worm are the ones I remember finding particularly tricky for whatever reason
Either because there's some special trick to them or they're just really tight
polar osprey
BAWS Arsenal was designed by demons to maximize suffering
serene kettle
It's a perfectly fine mission, I actually really like it
the S-Rank specifically is goofily tight though
the time requirements are such that if you aren't oneshotting the ghosts before they get a chance to react, much less teleport, you've already lost.
so the S-rank becomes something of a build challenge (how to most efficiently oneshot ghosts, ammo and time-wise) and a memorization challenge (where are they all hiding before they activate, so you can kill them before they get a chance to do anything). And then finally at the end there's an actual combat challenge where you can still flub the whole thing if you take more than one hit
Surprisingly it's not actually a raw movespeed challenge for the most part - the progression is gated by dialogue so you can't actually get all that much benefit out of being able to zoom
eager vector
BAWS is one of the missions that I heard a lot of complaining about the s rank but didnāt experience any trouble bc I ran lance+pb for everything
The hardest ones for me to S rank were stop the data breach and drive block/regain control of the xylem
bad at mazes
late jay
I know Grid 086 like the back of my hand, so I never really had any issues with that
Regain Control is understandably difficult though
That's the NG++ one, right?
eager vector
Yeah
late jay
Okey
I also like to use Intercept The Redguns to stress-test my ACs
Since I think it would simulate more long and drawn out fights
Would both versions of Coral Convergence be good too?
Oh, Escape was hell for me
eager vector
really? Escape is easy
wooden nimbus
I think we all have one or two missions that stick out for us
The tower defense one for me x_x
late jay
It was hell to S-Rank for me
serene kettle
yeah the tower defense one is up there
that wave of suicide drones toward the end is really rough
you can stop most of it with a well placed Pulse Protection core extension though!
late jay
Oh, that too
wooden nimbus
you can stop most of it with a well placed Pulse Protection core extension thoug...
Oh that's a thought
eager vector
you can stop most of it with a well placed Pulse Protection core extension thoug...
I have never managed to correctly place pulse protection lmao
kind halo
decided to give the mecha break demo a try and immediately thought "man i wish i was playing armored core"
decided to boot up armored core instead
immediately got my ass washed because i haven't played in weeks
ough
late jay
Pffft
late jay
I'm liking the Ransetsu-RF with the Attache a lot
polar osprey
as a big ACFA fan, this is peak
late jay
Beautiful
wet shard
eager vector
it absolutely rules
late jay
Thank
patent oyster
This field trip can finally be a hunting expedition
(Still dont have my steel haze and nightfall but i can wait)
late jay
Hell yea
late jay
Any ideas on good weapon/part combinations for the Karasawa in AC6 btw?
I really like the big fat gun on a heavyweight but jfc it's a nightmare to load up anything else with it since it takes up half of the total load
late jay
And my current setup with it is just painfully slow due to being at the limit of my carrying capacity
Although AB Shuffling helps a lot
cursive agate
Fitting the KRSV in AC6 is rough since it uses an arm slot, and makes Arm Load actually matter in much more cases.
modern hornet
Karasawas always take up an arm slot. The main issue with fitting a KRSV is how obscenely heavy it is
late jay
I know
Should I just stick with what I currently have for it?
With the WLT FCS instead of the P05 since I have plenty of spare EN
cursive agate
The KRSV has absurd EN Drain when charging, give it a shot and see if it affects the build with both FCS
late jay
I have like 6k EN efficiency with the WLT
late jay
On the bright side, I'm liking this AC a lot
late jay
I'm currently doing a run where I gotta S-Rank every mission that involves dunking on Iguazu
late jay
He's surprisingly slippery btw
polar osprey
omw to hunt Iguazu for sport
late jay
I honestly kept forgetting about him till the end of Alea Acta Est
I thought he was meant to just be fodder till then
serene kettle
I mean, he kinda is
polar osprey
i dunked on him as much as i physically could because he was annoying
serene kettle
he's just such a loser
polar osprey
he acted like a pissbaby so i hit the Jerma "i'm killing you" thing
serene kettle
The closest thing he has to a cool moment before AIE still kinda makes him the butt of a joke (specifically when he tries to jump you and Snail, and his AI is noticeably more aggressive and dangerous in that fight)
polar osprey
if this year has taught me anything it's that sometimes you just gotta lock in with your hater status
late jay
Imagine being jealous of someone who looks like this
Ngl, he'd probably still be bitching if he was in 621's position
polar osprey
of course
serene kettle
I mean that's kind of the thing, right? In some ways he is
polar osprey
surely
serene kettle
part of his whole deal is having a set of circumstances that fairly closely mirrors 621, but ultimately failing to make anything of them
chrome wigeon
I'm considering it
Not seeing it
V4 Rusty is my brother in arms. Comrade in our cores. Unthirstable
serene kettle
Who said anything about thirsting. You can have strong friendships with hot people too
late jay
I hc him as trans and/or non-conforming
If he made the specifications for Ortus, you know he meant to go out with style
late jay
Tactical high heels and skirt
wooden nimbus
Every time the bus drives by the PCA building my brain makes the same joke
radiant birch
Every time the bus drives by the PCA building my brain makes the same joke
What's the joke Tony
late jay
Kinda wondering if the Karasawa works well enough on its own as a "spray and pray" weapon for the standard fire, the recoil is absurd and it's annoying at mid-range to double-trigger with
Alternatively I could pair it with an Orbit or use the VCPL drones for sustain without worrying about recoil
late jay
Or does anyone have a better alternative to the Scudder for this build?
Running this with the WLT FCS
late jay
Switched from the P05 for better coverage
cursive agate
Uhh, I guess something on the slower end of single-shot that doesn't worry as much about recoil? Could maybe fit missiles onto the arm and an orbit on the shoulder to get around the recoil problem.
polar osprey
Listened to 4 The Mission (For the Answer) and now i wanna play ACFA again
late jay
Noice
wooden nimbus
Kill't
late jay
The Aurora and JVLN Beta work really well together btw
late jay
O
serene kettle
š
very much worth playing
they're a little jank for sure but it's iconic jank
eager vector
I don't have a PS5
on pc you can just emulate them
late jay
O
late jay
What missions should I do to stress-test this beast btw?
Also, does the JVLN Alpha deal kinetic damage on a direct hit with an explosive trail?
Or is it pure explosive?
radiant birch
i think it's pure explosive? but i'm not 100% sure
i'd try fighting Rusty with that beast to see how you handle fast, evasive opponents--those are the toughest ones for bazookas, i've found
late jay
polar osprey
real
late jay
This is that one MF who makes videos of themself beating bosses while modding the game to pilot an MT instead of an AC
late jay
Also I found out that I can B-hop with the Biped legs to get similar burst movement to the Reverse Joints
late jay
You jump and then QB on the first frame of your jumping animation and it gives you an extra burst of speed
There's a slight delay for the animation to start, so it's a little tricky to get the exact timing
polar osprey
Nuclear Whiplash/Nuclear Collision is my favourite build i've made i think
it's so much fun
late jay
Show?
polar osprey
Nuclear Whiplash and her older sister, Nuclear Collision
late jay
O
polar osprey
ultralightweight builds
late jay
If you're using the LD, I suggest swapping your right Viento with a Curtis for some nasty combos
Actually, what do you have on your right shoulder on the yellow one? Can't see
polar osprey
Nuclear Whiplash is the pure concept speed based ultralightweight build, basically the lightest and fastest AC i could build that reasonably can still fight
Nuclear Collision is the proof of concept testbed platform built for actual combat
polar osprey
Actually, what do you have on your right shoulder on the yellow one? Can't see
nothing
late jay
Ah
polar osprey
it only has the knife on the left shoulder
late jay
Okey
polar osprey
it's a pure concept build so it's not super built for actual combat
late jay
Still P cool
late jay
Also the Firmeza legs are lighter than the Nactrieher?
polar osprey
it's super fun
polar osprey
Also the Firmeza legs are lighter than the Nactrieher?
when i built it at least
late jay
Huh
polar osprey
i went through the list on every part
and used the lightest possible ones
i think even including the gen
and fcs
polar osprey
i can check
polar osprey
hmm, it seems like the fcs is the only thing i didn't weight optimize
pretty much got all the speed i possibly could out of it while having it be still a usable AC
actually it seems i might have compromised ever so slightly on the inner parts for better performance
alula technically doesn't give the best boost speed, but it does overall objectively make it faster
it's 394 boost speed
going to 400 at the cost of quick boost and any kind of useful generator output isn't really justified
basically 394 with a good quick boost and fast gen vs. iirc 405 with shit quick boost and dogshit gen
serene kettle
Oh well that will definitely increase the accessibility
As much as I love the original armored core, it was definitely an experience at times lmao
The description is really interesting since the protagonist of AC1 isnāt augmented at all ||unless you go deep in debt||
late jay
||Wonder if that happened to Iguazu and even maybe 621||
Btw, we know little to nothing about what life was like for the AC6 augmented cast pre-augmentation
Or why the RRI subjected the older gen augmentees either
Also, was Iguazu preserved like 621 before being shipped off to the Redguns?
wooden nimbus
HUMAN+ being ||locked behind losing all your money|| was peak tho
ah wait some folk aint played it
late jay
Also, if Rusty is an older gen augmented human as implied by his arena bio and he "knows who you really are" according to Walter, does that mean he was possibly the same gen as 621?
And maybe even friends before they were both augmented?
late jay
Also I forgot about this build I made a while ago
Internals are the Yaba generator, Abbott FCS and Gridwalker boosters
serene kettle
Also, if Rusty is an older gen augmented human as implied by his arena bio and h...
Unlikely, on the Alea Iacta Est route we get to see ||ALLMIND's list of candidates|| with four members - we know C1-249 is Sulla since Walter uses that designation, C4-621 is the player, and ||C4-729 is almost certainly Iguazu, given his level of coral responsiveness is only a bit below the player's and he's known to be fourth-gen for sure. That only leaves C3-291, which has no clear identity. It's not O'Keefe, since he was second-gen and is no longer a candidate anyway. Nobody ingame is explicitly identified as Gen 3, so if it's an onscreen character it's going to be someone a bit more out there - Rusty is possible, but so is, like, Dolmayan.||
late jay
Dolmayan was unaugmented though, he connected through Coral temporarily through dosing
Also I feel like Rusty may not be one of the select candidates, but may have slipped under the radar since he was also able to pass off as a later gen augment when he joined the Vespers
An older augmented human, yes, however I think because he's too good and not a candidate to Allmind's Release Project, she wanted him eliminated for the threat he poses
Although he could possibly be a candidate if she merely wants any remaining old gen augments, but Allmind would know he would never play her game and thus would need to be disposed of since she would want only one remaining to pull the trigger
serene kettle
as a funny sidenote, Rusty is actually unaccounted for in Alea Iacta Est.
Walter and Carla refer to being attacked by six mechs, "exact copies of the Vespers" claimed by ||ALLMIND||, but the only ones we know for sure are down at that point are Snail, Maeterlinck, Pater, O'Keefe, and Swinburne. Hawkins, Rusty, and Freud are all unaccounted for, though of those three it seems likely Hawkins wouldn't have made it out of the mess at Watchpoint Alpha.
Pater also claims to be V.III now in MIA, but suggests he still needs to confirm that Snail's dead, which indeed suggests Hawkins is down but Freud likely isn't (and he doesn't know Rusty's alive)
serene kettle
Dolmayan was unaugmented though, he connected through Coral temporarily through ...
Officially, yes. His background is shrouded in some mystery though, same as Rusty's. It's totally concievable he's an experimental augment and buried that or just doesn't talk about it. And you can find some of his personal logs in odd places connected to the institute too, notably the cave Ayre takes you to recover artifacts from.
I wouldn't claim absolutely for sure Dolmayan is the third-gen aug in the roster there, but it's plausible that he is
serene kettle
Walter and Carla refer to being attacked by six mechs, "exact copies of the Vesp...
(G3 Wu Huahai does defect to Arquebus in Act 4, but given his lack of a vesper callsign I have to imagine he's not considered one of the Vespers for this purpose)
late jay
Yea
late jay
Unlikely, on the Alea Iacta Est route we get to see ||ALLMIND's list of candidat...
Who's the gen 1 there if Sulla is dead btw?
serene kettle
It's still Sulla. Walter refers to him by exact number, and it's the same number there
serene kettle
probably
late jay
Honestly, Allmind is pretty horrifying for that aspect alone
wooden nimbus
I mean to be fair ||she's just doing collective consciousness instrumentality with red dust instead of orange soup|| and then we ||put the dust in everything without a unified control system||.
It's gonna be horrors either way
The question is: Do you want to choose what you do with the horrors
late jay
Idk
late jay
I wanna take this out for a spin while blasting the OST of Shadow 05 and Shadow Generations
cursive agate
[Armored Core 6] Another patch incoming (???), version 1.08, tomorrow-ish.
Tomorrow, #ARMOREDCORE servers will undergo maintenance to deploy patch 1.08.
Maintenance details:
CETć3/21ć8:00ļ½11:00
PSTć3/21ć00:00ļ½3:00
eager vector
Ooooh
late jay
Noice
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Any notes available?
Or do we just have to wait and see?
Apparently there's a really bad bug with the Basho Core where it offsets your aim because it's short
Or so I hear
I hope they buff the Attache and Shao-Wei tbh
Especially the Shao-Wei
And the Ransetsu-AR
radiant birch
I'm hoping (against good sense) that they'll be shadowdropping new parts. But odds are it'll probably just be a rebalance patch
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Also I feel like the Nebula could use the Karasawa treatment since it's supposed to be the rapid fire plasma rifle
radiant birch
They probably won't drop patch notes until it goes live, that's how From usually seems to do it
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True
polar osprey
L Bozo
radiant birch
Nice
polar osprey
Real
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Here's the entire list of changes in the patch notes
What's the VE-42A again?
The medium-weight bipeds or the ultra heavyweight ones?
radiant birch
heavyweight ones
scarlet pagoda
Oooo nice
eager vector
I had a feeling it was gonna be a pretty minor one
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Alright
I feel like those legs would need a defensive boost since you're a sitting duck with them otherwise
radiant birch
i'm very curious about this "stagger behavior when multiple hit detections are registered simultaneously" one
do you get more stagger from a multihit?
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Idk, I'll test it in a bit since I'm using the Double Trouble
eager vector
Idk, I'll test it in a bit since I'm using the Double Trouble
Oh man if they got some of the kinks out of that thing itāll be very exciting
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I want a mod that replaces the Double Trouble SFX with moaning now
wooden nimbus
It's just the plankton groan
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?
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Idk, I'll test it in a bit since I'm using the Double Trouble
Yeah, noticing that it's a hell of a lot more consistent now
Even when I'm hitting enemies who haven't had their ACS broken
radiant birch
intriguing
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At least when it's revved up, the normal swings still suck
For some reason it still acts weird when I'm higher than my target though
Like I get moved up and away slowly as I saw through them
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I think I'm figuring out how to use the Karasawa btw
Mainly just by not spamming it and treating the standard fire as a burst weapon in a double trigger build
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Thinking of trying a drone build btw
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Kinda like the Harris with the laser Orbit tbh
radiant birch
I'm of the opinion that the laser orbit is underrated personally
It doesn't have the absurd ACS buildup of the bullet orbit but its longer range makes it more flexible
I put a pair of them on the back of my lightweight shotgun/dagger build so that I could keep up pressure at mid-range and they did very well at that
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Thinking I might wanna give the Huxley a shot again
I've actually seen ORBTs more commonly than Huxleys nowadays
Plus I like having different types of damage
Actually, no, I just remember seeing close to as many
Just slightly less
polar osprey
I should try more weapons but machine gun 4 rocket is such a comf combo
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True
surreal vine
Wonder why the patch was so large when it seemed to all be bugfixes and stat tweaks
wooden nimbus
It had to add whatever causes me to lose frames at random now
I would say it feels like the denuvo frame hiccup but there's no way there shadow dropped drm like that at this point in the games life so it gotta be something else
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I just thought of something potentially diabolical
There's a nasty combo that I like to use with the Curtis and Laser Dagger, however it could also work in conjunction with drones
Thinking Huxley plus seeking laser drones
serene kettle
Yes, it absolutely has some of that energy (even if itās noticeably less crunchy)
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There's a nasty combo that I like to use with the Curtis and Laser Dagger, howev...
What do you all think of this idea btw?
eager vector
sounds fine
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Swapped the boosters for the 12345 btw, they work surprisingly well on this and don't cost so much EN
eager vector
Swapped the boosters for the 12345 btw, they work surprisingly well on this and ...
Iām skeptical tbh. Seems like thereād have to be better boosters at this weight class
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Alternatively there's the G1 Boosters which are fine
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The 12345 has better QB speed and AB speed, and is great for shuffling to let me go even faster
There's also the Fluegel which would be best, but that uses up too much EN for my comfort
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Finding the second one to be much more consistent in actual fights while I find it a little tricky to pull off the death combo with the first
radiant birch
Fashion core is important
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Yea
I like how the Melander C3 Core looks with everything else too
Actually, wasn't the Hokushi buffed to have better Post EN Recovery?
So it functions like a lighter VE-20C?
The heavy Arquebus generator
Might reconsider the Fluegel, but the 12345 is still really good on this, especially since I don't have to worry about melee boost speed
And if I don't have to worry so much about emptying out the Hokushi anymore, then I think I'll swap back
cursive agate
Actually, wasn't the Hokushi buffed to have better Post EN Recovery?
post-buff, similar capacity to VE-20C but more focus on recharge/post-recovery EN supply (at the cost of EN Firearm Spec).
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Update
I feel like the Melander C3 should have better Generator Output than the standard tbh
polar osprey
Owned
glad sierra
Finally played the Ice Worm mission
Why is Rusty so fucking cool man?
On the flip side, why are Iguazu and Snail such haters?
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Iguazu and Snail are perfect for eachother
polar osprey
Rusty my beloved
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Part of me really wonders what it's like to pilot a Gen 6 AC