Armored Core General!

[eager vector]

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[polar osprey]

my friend just beat balteus first try, very nice

[serene kettle]

You can use it to enter the King's Memory, yes

though you might not have much to do there yet

it can also be used to enter the memories of the dead Giants

basically it's what the Dream Nail from Hollow Knight is sorta referencing lol

[polar osprey]

oops

wrong chat

[eager vector]

dark souls 2 moment???

my servers are bleeding into one another

[radiant birch]

i think this might be the heaviest custom job i've ever done. i like how it's turned out

[late jay]

Hey, kinda thought I'd ask, if anyone wants to do some casual PvP with me, I'm down

I really wanna test out some of my AC designs against actual players

[late jay]

That a TFP reference btw?

[late jay]

Also experimenting with decals over the pulse engine covers

[polar osprey]

oooh nice

[late jay]

And did this just to flex

[late jay]

I feel like the Mind Beta head, Main Dish and Ephemera arms make my AC look kinda like a beetle too

Wonder if that could give me ideas for more decals

[radiant birch]

It's a Beast Wars reference, hence the '96' decal--1996 was the year BW started airing

[late jay]

Ah

[late jay]

Very happy with these decals so far

[wooden nimbus]

Big fan of stripes

[late jay]

Thamk

[late jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1036672275941961840/1310397298571870228/1212827375.jpg?ex=67451215&is=6743c095&hm=e916e0950c0165ddaa4f17bbef469061efbf66e92ecf47145e27460525c471f9&

The Mind Beta head reminds me of these sea buggos

Which are amphipods, aka Sea Fleas

I also made my custom callsign "G13 Chicxulub" which was the name of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs and created The Gulf of Mexico along with roughly translating from late Mayan to "the devil's flea"

So I thought it would be fun to give it a double meaning

[eager vector]

that’s cool as hell

[serene kettle]

...wait, was Chrono Trigger being cleverer than I realized? Neat!

[late jay]

Explain?

[serene kettle]

So, the main antagonist of Chrono Trigger is Lavos, a sort of Giant Alien Space Flea that's been consuming the earth's lifeforce for thousands of years and eventually causes the world to end in fire. You find out partway through the plot that its arrival in the form of a meteor was 65 million years ago and killed the dinosaurs (and also ended Reptite civilization)

could easily be a coincidence but there's that same connection of "giant evil flea" to "meteor that killed the dinosaurs"

[late jay]

Ahhh

Welp, I'm just gonna name my AC Lavos then

Also, I feel like Lavos was a little less of an actual antagonist and more of a plot device, the real antagonist being Magus's crazy mom

[late jay]

If I remember correctly anyways

[serene kettle]

well, you're not wrong. I'd still call it an antagonist but it's certainly more of the "sleeping dragon" type than an active villain the way Queen Zeal is

[languid sand]

Time for my Semi Annual armored core 3 playthrough

I'm sure that I'll be actually good at it this time

[late jay]

Noice

[serene kettle]

Good luck! Hail to The Controller

[languid sand]

Milk is still my favorite song in the franchise

[serene kettle]

I appreciate your taste 😌

[languid sand]

Some songs don't need to be epic if they just have a good rhythm

[serene kettle]

the AC3 soundtrack is sort of underrated in general tbh

not in a people think it's bad way, it just doesn't get talked about like other games' tracks are

[languid sand]

It's just great vibes all around

Just fun techno funk

[wooden nimbus]

Conservation from ACV does things to my brain

Human beings are just so damn interesting

[vague light]

Secret Level - Armored Core Teaser Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo9rA047XwE

Secret Level - Armored Core Secret Clip (After Entering the Code)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=looshS5Aci4

[radiant birch]

👀

okay so

||reference to "augmentation surgery" suggests this might take place in AC6 canon (though admittedly that's not exclusive to AC6)||

||"shrieker is part of me... just like you are" is giving me ALLMIND vibes. the voice doesn't have ALLMIND's mannerisms, but we see with Kate Markson that it's capable of altering that affect when it needs to||

[scarlet pagoda]

The movement and mechs feel pretty AC6 as well

[inland sluice]

Nothing will ever be as funny in this game as pool noodle fight

[polar osprey]

actually hilarious fight

[inland sluice]

I have another video when I did this with another friend

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-mocking-balloon-man-gif-13629750

[late jay]

Wacky waving damned soul beam

[late jay]

Really liking the Curtis with the Laser Dagger btw

[radiant birch]

Interesting

I have a Zimm/dagger build that I like pretty well but I hadn't thought of trying the Curtis

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-kabuto-kamen-rider-kabuto-仮面ライダーカブト-仮面ライダー-gif-25262305

[polar osprey]

my GOAT Kabuto 🙏

[late jay]

?

[late jay]

I like the rapid semi-auto + back to back charged shots on the Curtis

Plus it has further range than most kinetic weapons

[radiant birch]

Yeah, the Curtis bring able to fire multiple charged shots in succession, or immediately resume firing normal shots after a charged shot, is fantastic and the main leg up that it had on the Harris

[radiant birch]

The gif is from the show Kamen Rider Kabuto, where most of the characters have an armored form and then can "cast off" their armor for super speed, kind of like an AC shedding extra components. Your AC colors kind of match Kabuto's too

[late jay]

Okay

[late jay]

Here's another interesting build prototype I came up with

Mainly because I felt like I haven't used the Harris ever

Feel like the ORBT pairs pretty well with its primary fire before I use the charged shot to set up a Pile Bunker

And I mainly picked the frame parts because I like how they look together

[patent oyster]

swap duo3 with 10 cell missiles and laser orbit with huxley, and you have a very solid pvp melee build

[late jay]

Kinda prefer the ORBT over the Huxley ngl

I'm going for more of a mid-range build that can quickly close into enemies for the Pile Bunker

On top of having more decent sustained fire

[late jay]

Also works pretty decently with the Lammergeier legs

[late jay]

I think I prefer the biped version more tho

[eager vector]

That wasn’t like a suggestion for a change you should make, they were just remarking that your PvE build is very similar to a solid PvP build

[inland sluice]

As a lightweight player this games pvp makes me just feel annoyed most of the time. I don't wanna use some things like gatling or dual earshot or some specific kinda builds but it just makes me lose sometimes.

Like yesterday I fought this guy who even said so himself that once he lands the kick his entire combo is unavoidable from that point on.

And as a light you're fucked then cus he had the kick then charged short from the not Harris one then I think bazooka and then shoulder things if I remember correctly.

I mean I get that it's pvp so people do what they can to win but I like it more when people play with builds that aren't just gambling to win.

I have this fun close range build I like that's a Harris the uh explosive thrower then the pulse blade in the shoulder and a shoulder gatling on the other shoulder cus idk what else to put there really. It's fun and it's not just a single repeated combo.

[patent oyster]

You dont like combos? May i introduce you to my lord and saviour MA-T-223 Kyoriku Jamming Bomb Launcher?

Genuinely the most interesting weapon to use in the entire game

[inland sluice]

Like I wanna be getting that main character feel like I could in titanfall being good at movement and stuff and being able to do good with non meta things through skill

[inland sluice]

I can't really shoot that once they're in their combo tho. I could shoot it before but this is just one of many example of builds that just feel easy.

[patent oyster]

Ah i thought you meant you dislike using wombo combo one trick builds

[inland sluice]

But I particularly dislike the builds that are just "I use right hand weapon, left hand weapon and now my shoulders and if I miss I just wait and repeat" like they don't even interchange their attacks or anything.

But yeah one trick builds I dislike

Tbf I literally can't like get upset in almost any other pvp having game but ac6 just manages to bother me somehow.

[patent oyster]

Ac6 seems to have that affect on people

[inland sluice]

But I've been actually making different builds and hy that I mean the same chassis and helmet just different arms and like 1 with different legs lol. I like lightweights.

Most of them are just different weapon combinations n playstyles for me to switch between

My complains with this game I guess are just that I think the stagger mechanics creates a setting where it's about acs overload instead of health and the lower your overall health the more acs overload determines everything, the poor hit detection, the lack of a real long range and maybe the last one is just me but I feel like the speed differences aren't as obvious as I think they maybe should be. Like if I'm fighting a gatling build I gotta put all effort into staying the hell away from them and that's difficult despite me being super lightweight.

Like I get if you increase that speed difference then you get builds that can't chase down others but like that'd actually make a long range with guns more viable and I feel like it's deserved to have that as a lightweight. I mean if they can be smart and get close then you can easily get fucked.

Also I don't need an argument for hit detection but I'm bringing one anyway. A video of my friend getting killed by a missile kite. (Actually by uh the air)

[patent oyster]

Thats not a hit detection issue, thats a netcode issue

[inland sluice]

Or that

I forget the terms

Everyone should just live in my exact neighbourhood so these issues aren't as big

[patent oyster]

All attacks are attacker sided (besides missiles), if it connects on their screen after they fired something, itll hit you

[inland sluice]

Government funded ac6 playing locations

[patent oyster]

me in the land down under
pulse blade hits me from 80 meters away

[inland sluice]

That's why those one trick builds are so annoying too cus on my screen I'll dodge something but then still get hit

[patent oyster]

It just do be like that sometimes

😔

[inland sluice]

Like I was beating this guy with 2 bazookas and 2 lasers on the shoulders but then the next 2 rounds I just get hit by the bazookas that went past my shoulders and did not explode.

Used to play ac6 with this girl from Brazil but we just stopped fighting each other because it was pain

[patent oyster]

Thats not even mentioning the fact that the basho core hitbox is straight up broken

Its hitbox doesnt match the size of the actual in-game model

Same with the bell- bottom legs

[inland sluice]

Ah didn't know that

All I know is that the ephemera legs has heels that slay

[patent oyster]

Mechs with heels is honestly peak design

[inland sluice]

True

[cursive agate]

I think adjusting stagger time to account for weight is one possible tuning lever, especially considering PVE ACs break out of stagger stun in ~0.5 sec without extenders.

[eager vector]

[late jay]

Okay, thanks

I guess my main issue with the Huxley is its much shorter range along with even shorter use time

And I feel like its ammo reserves drain too quickly too

[radiant birch]

Yeah I like the laser orbits too, I prefer being able to poke a bit at medium range

They've worked surprisingly well on my Zimm+laser dagger lightweight build. Help to keep up pressure and prevent the opponent's ACS bar from draining

The Huxley is more for adding extra burst to an aggressive close range build. And it's very good at that, hence its popularity. But that's not quite my approach

[late jay]

Same here

[late jay]

Updated it to lighten it up and retain fashion

[languid sand]

Sorry chatty

But Chief has my heart

[twin estuary]

i might be god's strongest hater but i feel precisely opposite of this

the mechs are featherweight and floaty with no sense of inertia 2 me, feels like toys

[late jay]

My partner helped me with painting this one more

[eager vector]

Your partner has a great eye

[late jay]

Ye

Also they started playing AC6 for the first time and just cleared Operation Wallclimber

[radiant birch]

we got another one

[eager vector]

all my homies fucking love operation wallclimber

[radiant birch]

I think Juggernaut was the first boss that properly walled me for a bit

So it really was Operation Wallclimber

[late jay]

I know the three main walls/filters there are for most new players are Illegal Entry, Operation Wallclimber and Watchpoint Delta

[past silo]

the first heli gave me more trouble than either of the later bosses by virtue of being a flying enemy when I was 3 minutes into learning the controls

[late jay]

I beat the PCA's Helicraft on my first try, got stuck on Balteus for a little bit and then got really stuck on the Sea Spider

[past silo]

ibis was the first boss that made me completely change my build

[late jay]

I mainly struggled against the Sea Spider because I was running a tank build

Didn't really have any vertical mobility

[polar osprey]

i got fucked by Sea Spider until i learned about hardlock

IBIS was actually prolly the easiest boss in the game for me

[past silo]

I went in with my usual melee build, experienced all the stages of grief as I slowly switched things out for ranged spec, then got mad and won with a melee build but cursed

[polar osprey]

i beat it and Balteus first try somehow

i've never lost against either of them i think

[past silo]

I almost beat balteus first try but I got dark souls hitbox'd by the sword

[polar osprey]

sadge

i took out Balteus first time with shotties

[late jay]

I gave the IBIS CEL a few tries with my main build until I said "fuck it" and swapped to a wheelchair build with dual Nebulas

[polar osprey]

yeah i just hit it with good old Pale Painter

[past silo]

I don't think I've ever ran shotguns

other than a bit of sweet 16

[polar osprey]

IBIS was no match

[late jay]

Noice

[past silo]

oh wait I ran the laser shotgun that charges into a grenade

[late jay]

?

[polar osprey]

feels so weird to use Pale Painter after making and using Ruber

Ruber is so much fucking better it's actually kinda wack

[late jay]

Do people use the Spring Chicken more for mobility than building a speedier tank btw?

[polar osprey]

my beloved 💜

[late jay]

I keep seeing people put lighter frame parts and weapons on those legs

[polar osprey]

can't remember why i used Spring Chicken on Pale Painter but i presume it was for aesthetic purposes

[late jay]

I just realized the trans colors on that mech, I like

[polar osprey]

yeah the original Pale Painter had pink and white guns anyway so i ended up just adding in the blue cause it's nice

[late jay]

Anyone got fun heavyweight build suggestions btw?

[eager vector]

Balty took me like 30 attempts and Ibis took me 6

Sea Spider 2

[polar osprey]

Huh

[eager vector]

I didn’t understand that moving the camera breaks hard lock until after balty lol

[wooden nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yCvHpxQUYg the Soundchaser MkII was doing well earlier today

[radiant birch]

a few of mine for your consideration:

[late jay]

Never really got the hang of Tetrapods tbh, although I think that would make them more worth trying out

[radiant birch]

i like using them with bazookas and linear rifles since they can still move while shooting them

[late jay]

I completely forgot about that

Also, I feel like people don't talk about Sulla enough

Like he genuinely feels like an anomaly and has the only arena intro that glitches out

[cursive agate]

Ah yea

[late jay]

Along with his lore making him feel even more out of place

The game basically does everything it can to say "by all accounts, this man shouldn't be alive"

[radiant birch]

also the ||ghost machines that show up to support him in the alt version of his fight||

||between that and the fact that he uses Mind Alpha parts in his AC, some kind of connection with ALLMIND seems likely||

[cursive agate]

Factoring in Sulla's loadout, it's like he's here for the same reason as 621.

[late jay]

Just got this sexy pose btw

[winter sigil]

terminal armor is so funny

I just went 2-0 in a ranked match with 1 AP remaining in both fights

[eager vector]

whoa nice! I’ve never had a terminal armor user beat me during terminal armor

I’ve had plenty of them beat me ofc lol

[radiant birch]

i feel like Terminal Armor has a really specific use case for, like, lightweight/low-AP ACs that would get shredded during the startup to Pulse Armor

or at least, that's how i've used it in the past

[winter sigil]

That's sorta where mine lives, yeah

Usually the termi armor is useful for, like
I go in for a kill, fuck up, get killed, then confirm mine before they can confirm theirs

[late jay]

Should I use Terminal armor on my heavyweight reverse joint?

I got 11200 AP which is kinda low for a heavyweight imo but got really good defenses and attitude stability

I imagine that means I could be burst down easily by Coral weapons tho

I think the Spring Chicken legs give it surprising speed in short bursts too so I can avoid hits to an extent

[eager vector]

I would use pulse personally

[winter sigil]

I like terminal armor because I don't have to do anything to use it

I want as much of my focus on movement as possible (and as much as possible after that on offensive stuff)

[vague light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiQCkRQwEqk

[late jay]

Kreeves

[wooden nimbus]

https://youtu.be/cHD9EKapF7Q Behold, my ass is kicked

[winter sigil]

huh people actually use the scanner?

[serene kettle]

I used it a lot in PvE before I knew the maps basically by heart 😛

it's less generally useful than it was in like ACV though

[wooden nimbus]

I use it sometimes on fast movers because my eyes are ass and if I lose lock I want an easier time

But yeah I bet that final clash was DOPE from their perspective

[winter sigil]

ic

[late jay]

In maps like the Xylem or the wall where there's lots of cover, yea

[radiant birch]

yeah, it's a way of keeping track of your opponent's movement when they duck behind cover

i'm pretty bad at remembering to do it myself, but i see a lot of PVPers use it

[late jay]

Anyone have "themes" for when they pilot their ACs btw?

[late jay]

This comes to mind for my heavy reverse-joint here
https://youtu.be/pRquLsanLkM?si=i2LBvAst8MbxOLsG

[dim sequoia]

https://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=11288 apparently the Secret Level armored core episode is based off a Peter Watts short story

this is sicko shit, this is the universe catering to me in particular

[wooden nimbus]

A-

As-

[winter sigil]

I throw on either gundam/ace combat music or a bunch of punk

[eager vector]

https://youtu.be/DBwWgIHO02Y?si=HWGpDLivdw0rfof0

[distant crown]

https://fxtwitter.com/rattlegeist/status/1865767883562774710
https://girlcockx.com/rattlegeist/status/1866117175888728413

[late jay]

0///0

[serene kettle]

that second link sure does have a name

[deft bridge]

peakayune mentioned

[polar osprey]

yup

[wooden nimbus]

Gi-

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/picayune-dreams-izu-gif-9380427707140702676

[wooden nimbus]

I see that gif and my brain just hears BABABABOBABOBA on loop I have no idea what it is

[late jay]

Yes

[surreal vine]

Watched the secret level AC episode

Some fun ACs in it but sadly v dark and monochrome in a lot of the episode so some of it blurred a bit

Saw some marginally-changed Schneider and Balam parts, some other bits

Badass tetrapod with dual spread bazookas and dual vertical missile racks

[patent oyster]

I really like widelander head

Looks like a verril prototype

[languid sand]

I loved the little bit that classic sliding around combat we got

Keanu is a true armored schizo

[surreal vine]

The tetrapod having dual spread bazookas and dual missile racks was peak ngl

[languid sand]

I hope this means we're getting new parts. Because I need Shriekers head

[patent oyster]

Shrieker's head is just symmetrical Shade Eye

[languid sand]

Exactly

[latent forge]

Yo guys my friend and I want to do PvP and all, he’s helping me a lot but I’d also like to have a second opinion, I like going fast, like really fast, is that possible in PvP or should I just make a build that can tank more?
Also is there a 2v2 mode

[late jay]

Maybe another time

Need to sleeb

Yes once I'm up and available tho

[patent oyster]

It is possible, but you need to be aware that netcode shenanigains exist

Also there's only 1v1 and 3v3

[winter sigil]

I run a pretty fast build and do alright

[latent forge]

What are netcode shenanigans?

[radiant birch]

netcode is the code that governs the interactions between different players' computers in online play. Fromsoft's is famously fairly lacking

so you'll run into stuff like getting hit by an attack that missed you on your screen, stuff like that

[cursive agate]

I've heard of needing to pre-emptively QB/jump off the floor/ect to have evasion register in time in laggier pvp matches.

[wooden nimbus]

I have started just guessing when someone is about to hit me and trying to dodge them instead of when I see it coming

This isn't perfect but works better than reacting to physical cues

[winter sigil]

always be quickboostin

[wooden nimbus]

I will say I am hype for the pending dlc theory

[radiant birch]

i am choosing to engage in cautious optimism

but i would be shocked if we didn't get an AC6 follow-up at some point

the game was successful enough, and the series had been fallow for so long

[winter sigil]

i'll be so psyched if there's a dlc

[fringe summit]

oh?

what info's sparked that speculation?

[wooden nimbus]

Steam data about them adding packages and things like that

[fringe summit]

huh

[wooden nimbus]

I would go find it but I'm at work

[fringe summit]

understandable

[river junco]

Unironically think the fact that there’s a secret level episode for AC6 means we’re pretty likely to get more AC6

Since it seems like it’s slowly coming out that every episode is an ad for an upcoming thing

The pac man thing, concords cancelled new characters, etc

[ember carbon]

It would follow AC's format to get a AC6 alt game or perhaps a major expansion in today's market

[south oracle]

Please god

Give me a whole new ac6 game llease

[keen garden]

Maybe you play as nightfall raven since that faction is pretty underdeveloped in the main game

Well unknown is probably the better word

[rose canyon]

Hear me out

Nightreign is fromsoft experimenting on full multi-player on the er engine

We are getting verdict day multi-player in ac6 trust

[languid sand]

Please give us motherwill comes again comes again

[serene kettle]

okay that'd be pretty funny

in fact just put spirit of motherwill in Nightreign, fuck it

[rose canyon]

We already had that in elden ring

[languid sand]

The entire lands between is actually just perched on motherwill's back

[rose canyon]

Dark souls is one of 9 Ball's simulations

[serene kettle]

The Wandering Mausoleums are emphatically not spirit of motherwill lol

[rose canyon]

Patches is in every game because he is the agent Smith of the souls simulations

[languid sand]

Patches pulls off his clearly a Halloween mask face and it's just nineball seraph

[rose canyon]

It's why his name is patches

He patches the code up

[radiant birch]

That's what ER really needed, a rocket-boosted high-speed assault on that one mausoleum that kept chucking magic fireballs

[languid sand]

The final boss is just miquella riding on radahans back riding on white glints back

[rose canyon]

Verdict day multi was so dope tho

I really wish i could run it at more than 20 fps

[languid sand]

I just want AC raids back

[quasi copper]

It’s Radahn tho

[surreal vine]

finally finished 100%ing AC6 tonight

using my PvP-generalist rifle kite build

[eager vector]

sick paint job

[surreal vine]

ty

[wooden nimbus]

I love the decal work

[late jay]

Hell yea

Also back from doing an internet detox

[rose canyon]

Evil build

[grave jolt]

Ah, a fellow PM! Congrats!

[polar osprey]

Need to continue 100% run

Still have a bunch of missions i need to do

[rose canyon]

I'll pvp ya >:)

[late jay]

Made a new build I like

[late jay]

I never seen anyone use the turret drones in the wild tbh

[late jay]

As for my AC, I'm kinda getting Harrison Armory vibes from it

[unborn igloo]

Looks cool! Love the maroon and gold colors

[rose canyon]

https://youtu.be/PLPlussiJ_Y?si=cXSWW-QCNJ8f8ef-

I tweaked iguazus build

Ditched the shield and long range rifle in exchange for a laser dagger and explosive thrower

It's VERY FUN

I really like how his character translates to his mech

[radiant birch]

Really good paint job, it looks cool 😁

[late jay]

Thank

[late jay]

And yea, Iguazu is more a case of user error than his build being bad

[serene kettle]

honestly i'm not even sure it's really user error as much as him building around pairing up with Volta

You know, his good buddy Volta

As a duo they're a really nasty fight! Iguazu is definitely the weaker of the pair but their strategy is based around letting Volta take point while Iguazu harasses from the sides to help set Volta up for a kill

[rose canyon]

Thonk

[serene kettle]

it's an important disruption to this strategy to create distance, get away from volta, and jump Iguazu alone where he's more vulnerable

[rose canyon]

Nuh huh

I just unga

[polar osprey]

kill volta and hunt Iguazu like the rat he is

[serene kettle]

and yeah most of the iguazu fights are without volta and he's kind of a pushover there because he's been left without his platonic second half 😔

[polar osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-ac-rubicon-armored-core-gif-27638355

[serene kettle]

the harrying partner to someone who isn't present anymore

[polar osprey]

me when i see Iguazu

[rose canyon]

Allmond just cannot replace Him

[rose canyon]

Michigan sees iguazu has the dawg in him

Michigan would not be wrong.

[polar osprey]

the Dawg Iguazu has in him is a chihuahua

all bark no bite

[rose canyon]

Nuh huh

He legit 1v2s you and snail

He REJECTS ALLMOND WITH SHEER FORCE OF WILL

He is Him

The goatzu

[polar osprey]

the only person i respect less than him in the game is Snail

i would unironically rather have Rummy backing me up

[rose canyon]

Albany! I'd forgotten we still kept you around!

Iguazu was worth 200 of you! Which means, Albany, the merc is worth 20 of him.

You're doing nothing productive. Why don't you do the math for us?

[late jay]

I made the mistake of reinstalling Elden Ring which means that I won't be able to play Armored Core for a while because I don't have the disk space for it

[radiant birch]

one way or another, Fromsoft will get you

[late jay]

https://art.ngfiles.com/images/6039000/6039231_1205519_mega-kot_untitled-6039231.254060fb6b23f14866b8d68f360673a0.gif?f1726399502

[eager vector]

correct this mistake

[late jay]

I will if my friends lose interest in Seamless Co-op

Then I think I'll prep for PvP more

In AC6, not ER

[rose canyon]

What about armored core for answer pvp

[wooden nimbus]

What about armored core last raven pvp

[rose canyon]

I'm too skill issued to play last raven

[serene kettle]

Last Raven's difficulty depends on route but some routes are pretty rough, yeah.

[wooden nimbus]

Yeah

They called Balteus a wall, classic AC in general would occasionally just introduce you to a Cliff

[serene kettle]

Last Raven is fucked up even by AC standards. One of the three starting missions gives you a very difficult AC fight against a guy named Bolt with literally your starting gear.

it's the highest paying starter mission for a REASON

I swear the placement is just straight trolling

[polar osprey]

hitting the "Nah, i'd win" route

[rose canyon]

I should try it again

[late jay]

Isn't it supposed to be a continuation of the Gen 3 saga though where you're intended to bring your save from the first 3 games all the way to the end?

Not including Ninebreaker

[serene kettle]

hahahaha no

I think you can import from nexus though

it's not designed around it though

that mission is sort of a difficulty gate for the harder routes though

since Last Raven has 6 branching routes and they start early

it's actually a little like if AC6 gave you the opportunity to fight Volta and Iguazu right out the gate

[rose canyon]

Wait so it doesn't rely on knowing 3rd gen story?

[serene kettle]

Not reeeeeeally? like, in the way a story about the vietnam war might rely on you knowing about WW2

there's some background context but it's not really relevant to the immediate situation for the most part

it's a new story

The Unmanned Suicide Units that get released at the end of Nexus feature in the plot setup but the intro explains that

[surreal vine]

just begging the next installment of the franchise to have more tough NPC AC builds and AI

like, some are semi-difficult at times but very few in Fires of Rubicon actually feel super challenging imo

(for NPC ACs)

[wooden nimbus]

I like those uh

The ones who show up in ||the alternate strider mission||

I want to fight those more

Also the LCs and HCs

Also missions where it's you vs another AC and a squad of MTs are always fun

[serene kettle]

Those are high end mts rather than ACs but yeah

Love to see some scary mts

After the hilariously paper-armored ones in the earlygame

[rose canyon]

Not the wheels tho

Hate the wheels

[serene kettle]

Actually I’ll credit the tetrapods those are fun

I also like the RaD tetrapods (the ones with blades) and toyboxes a lot

[wooden nimbus]

No I wasn't talking the wheels

Though I do like fighting them

RaD has some cool units

I want more weird shit like c spider too tho

The IA-05 WEEVIL

That's the one I meant

[winter sigil]

look at my baby

[wooden nimbus]

Oh that's a cool one

[winter sigil]

my winter break project is attempting to make it through 4, FA, V, and VD

[wooden nimbus]

Nice

I love the Rayleonard guns that look like they should also be swords so much

[late jay]

Just did

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/wheel-skeleton-pruld-ds3-ds2-ds-gif-21781255

[late jay]

Decided to give the Bad Cook a try

[late jay]

And I like this too

[radiant birch]

ooo, double shotgun

intriguing

[late jay]

Ye

[late jay]

Thinking of calling it "Thresher" like the shark

[hushed trellis]

Lookit that lil remora on their fin along for the ride

[late jay]

Pffft, didn't realize it till you pointed it out

[late jay]

Merry Crisis btw

[radiant birch]

merry chrysler!

[winter sigil]

merry couger

[late jay]

https://art.ngfiles.com/images/5321000/5321238_341979_mega-kot_untitled-5321238.5bc205d4009e272e26b3d1a067a757e0.gif?f1703885942

[wooden nimbus]

Woag

[late jay]

https://art.ngfiles.com/images/2215000/2215409_mega-kot_happy-bouncing.gif?f1638318370

[glad sierra]

Chapter 2 finished. on the one hand, man learning to dodge those laser satellites makes you feel so slick. on the other hand, maaaan fuck those laser satellites. the timing on that is so damn tight

also, the Sea Spider fight was fun. i think i had more fun with that than I did Balteus. was a bit more down to the wire than i'd have liked. but it's still a fun little scrap

[radiant birch]

Sea Spider's a pretty fun one, yeah

[radiant birch]

what i'm getting from watching AC6 content on youtube is that people really, really like lightweight builds

[cursive agate]

yyyyep, it feels really great when a LW build works

[eager vector]

I mostly just flew under the bridge to hide from them haha

[glad sierra]

See, i’d heard that was an option. But i’m stubborn. On my winning run, i managed to avoid them all clean. So i’m proud of that

[late jay]

https://youtu.be/zAYVpic--c8?si=Ja0SU78F2yDMFBRN

I've always wanted to try this

[late jay]

Finally managed to find good synergy with the Attache

And turned the Dafeng trainee into mincemeat instantly while I was at it

[radiant birch]

i should mess around with the Attache a bit more

i know it's got a rep for being undertuned but it'd be fun to see what it can do nonetheless

and i do like some midrange bullet-spitters

[wooden nimbus]

Fellow dodgeroll enthusiast 🤝

I have to turn my eyes off and listen for the audio que or I psych myself out

[eager vector]

*cue :3

[late jay]

I think it's more for letting out a constant stream of damage rather than making big numbers, great for keeping up pressure

It's also pretty accurate too

[eager vector]

yeah I feel like maybe its best use is preventing stagger from falling off?

which is most of what you mean by pressure ofc

[wooden nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[eager vector]

better than using queue and spelling it right lol

[late jay]

Yea, that's what I meant

Also finding the handheld split missile is great with it for some extra burst damage

Finding that it somehow does more damage than the back mounted version

And doesn't have any noticable recoil either which is great with the Basho arms

[wet shard]

https://x.com/zobasalt/status/1873383836077498680?s=46&t=fr1zz5HLk6wLBeuABTanpQ

Zoba (CEO of Iguazu) (@Zobasalt) on X

Peak male physique

Twitter · Dec 29, 2024, 3:01 PM

[unborn igloo]

MAD STOMP

[late jay]

Pffft

[feral niche]

I love Double Trouble.

[modern hornet]

If it were actually Mad Stomp, the arms and legs would be different. Rummy runs WRECKER Arms and Legs with TIAN-QIANG Core and Head.

[feral niche]

I recognize the RaD stuff super easily cause it's my favorite manufacturer.

I recognize the Wrecker arms primarily based on the clamp hands, of which that doesn't have.

Based on the upper leg shape... is that the tree company?

I was right!

Dafeng's Tian-Qiang frame.

The legs are what I knew the best because the upper part is just so chunky compared to the rest of the leg.

[eager vector]

yeah this is closer to test pilot

[late jay]

Stole and tweaked Allmind's Rubiconian paintjob slightly

[radiant birch]

new build? new build.

was inspired by some builds Etheox has been doing lately on youtube, but i wound up putting my own spin on it

i think this might be the first heavyweight boost-kicker that i've really enjoyed playing

[unborn igloo]

Love the colors

[radiant birch]

thanks 😊 i've been messing around with patterns a lot lately and i'm pretty pleased with how that one turned out

[late jay]

Noice

[wooden nimbus]

yo that looks great

[radiant birch]

i've actually been tweaking and decorating my entire PVE build stable last night and this morning, but i feel like dumping ~14 build screenshots into chat might be a bit excessive 😅

i also need to, like, actually play through the game a bit with a lot of these. i've stress-tested them all in the arena but only a few have actually been tested out in missions

[wooden nimbus]

No

Do it

I want to see them

[radiant birch]

you drive a hard bargain, devil on my shoulder

[wooden nimbus]

You are in funny robo channel after all

[radiant birch]

i'm about to nap and then try to get some work done, but i'll drop the screenshots i have to hand--on the left, my update to Vector (replaced the Scudder with a Ransetsu, surprising how much difference that makes!) and on the right, the newest iteration of Red Right Hand, created by smushing the frame parts from one scrapped build with the weapons from another

[wooden nimbus]

Aw hell yeah

[surreal vine]

MELANDER torso and ALBA legs do go hard together yeah

[radiant birch]

it's peak fashion and it nets you a solid chunk of AP for low weight investment!

i love the frame build i used for RED RIGHT HAND specifically because it gives me 10.6k health while still letting me move like a lightweight

[wooden nimbus]

yoooo that color scheme tho

[radiant birch]

love the decal work, too!

i need to pretty up my builds and get some nice photo mode pictures

[late jay]

@surreal vine

[surreal vine]

🙏

[late jay]

https://art.ngfiles.com/images/2215000/2215409_mega-kot_happy-bouncing.gif?f1638318370

[radiant birch]

it's a vibe for sure

[late jay]

Feeling more like playing heavyweight nowadays

Also I managed to figure out how to AB shuffle properly too

[radiant birch]

i'm still working on that myself

i can circle boost decently, but figuring out the timing for breaking my approach and attacking is trickier

[late jay]

Takes getting used to, but you flick your mouse in the opposite direction of whichever direction you strafe in order to get additional boosts of speed diagonally then forward

[wooden nimbus]

I'm still enjoying this little number a lot

[radiant birch]

is that a laser dagger?

[wooden nimbus]

yeah

[late jay]

I kinda find it funny how the HAL core kinda looks like a space shuttle haphazardly repurposed into the chassis

[radiant birch]

hell yeah, love me a laser dagger

[wooden nimbus]

I love how weird the HAL core looks

[deft bridge]

i love the way it looks when it vents its core

[late jay]

Yea

[radiant birch]

the HAL core always makes shoulder weapons look awesome or awkward to me, no in-between. but when they're awesome they're really awesome

[wooden nimbus]

Adjusted soundchaser's build to be even more of what I originally designed, also working on a new color scheme. Any opinions on the color selection, things you think might improve it, etc?

[radiant birch]

if it were me, i think i'd tweak the device color to match the orange/brown highlights a little more closely? not orange, but something close to it like yellow or red. i see what you're going for with the blue but i don't think there's enough of it on the model to create the contrast effect

that's my only note, though, otherwise it's an excellent coloring job

[wooden nimbus]

I found a very "dirty industrial bulb" yellow that I think looks good

[radiant birch]

oh hell yes, that' s an excellent choice

[wooden nimbus]

Zooming in because it's faint but I thought I'd make the bronze a little more weathered looking with a pattern layer

[radiant birch]

heyyy, same hat 😁

[wooden nimbus]

It survives the 3v1 so I'm happy

[late jay]

Really happy with how this is turning out so far

I also need a name for it

[eager vector]

BUSINESS CASUAL

RUMBLE CAGE

TUBTHUMPING

EMINENT DOMAIN

DONGHUANG JINLONG GLYCINE

[late jay]

Hm

Idk, I'm thinking maybe a food name for this

All the boxy weapons, arms and feet make me think of bento

And this think packs a comical amount of ammunition too

Although I think that would be more appropriate if I was using anything from Carla's set

[wooden nimbus]

SECOND HELPING

[winter sigil]

TAKEOUT CARTON

[radiant birch]

ECONOMY PACK

[eager vector]

BOX LUNCH

on the nose but it has great mouth feel

[late jay]

SECOND HELPING and BOX LUNCH are really good

And TAKEOUT CARTON

Difficult to decide between them

[unborn igloo]

Just TAKEOUT also has a double meaning

[radiant birch]

TAKEOUT ORDER

If we want to stretch the double meaning a bit further

[unborn igloo]

That's a good one

[late jay]

Hell yea

Or TAKEOUT BOX

[late jay]

Actually, yeah, I think this works out better

[wooden nimbus]

We did the splatter paint again

[late jay]

Noice

[wooden nimbus]

I wish MP matches had replays you could pause and do photomode with

Or even like, you know how in ACVD you could write simple bot AI to favor certain range bands and techniques and then pop it in an AC, lemme upload those and put them online for folks to fight ;A;

[late jay]

Should I add patterns to this? I'm thinking caution stripes like I usually do

[eager vector]

I think that’s a great idea

[magic stratus]

I just got Armored Core and decided to turn my mech into Goldbug from Transformers

[eager vector]

fuckin sick

[late jay]

Noice

[late jay]

I feel like I need to work out consistently in order to play Armored Core

Otherwise I don't have enough circulation through my brain and body

[polar osprey]

ayyyy

nice

[late jay]

So, I just realized that I wasn't using one of the mechs I made before properly

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1324710531193507912/1324713065492643960/20241115200515_1.jpg?ex=677c726e&is=677b20ee&hm=f1283b366317e8930080688765cb2ef0b2ea4073bf46479161dd9732f33b8bcc&

This absolute unit

Until recently I realized that I wasn't AB shuffling properly and now that I know that it's effective with the 12345 boosters, I'm able to catch up with kites more easily

And even kite myself

Should I swap the Scudder with the Ransetsu-RF for better mid-range coverage btw?

And maybe to increase midair hang-time with the charged attacks

Since the Karasawa eats through ammo like Halloween candy

[cursive agate]

I remember the Ransetsu-RF having relatively slow projectiles so the Scudder/Turner may do better at mid-range specifically. Less button mashing too.

[late jay]

Aight, I think I'll try testing both of them out

I would use the Harris if it wasn't so heavy

The Karasawa uses up a surprising amount of my load capacity

I also like comboing kicks with the Karasawa's laser fire since it comes out about as fast as a bazooka shot

Compared to the stance you have to pull for the big shot

[late jay]

Okay, yeah, you're right, the Ransetsu's projectile speed is slower

[late jay]

And I think I misremembered with the Karasawa's laser fire

[cursive agate]

The (charge-1) shot?

[late jay]

No, the one before that which is just a regular laser

Not the piercing big shot

[winter sigil]

I am the Turner/Scudder's biggest fan

dual turners <3

[radiant birch]

The Ransetsu-RF has the best overall DPS and ACS buildup of any rifle, but that's dependent on landing your shots, which is harder given its slow firing and projectile speeds

I've found that it demands more precise timing and awareness of targeting to really be effective

So yeah, if you're looking for more of a spray-and-pray/pressure maintenance approach, the Scudder or Turner will do you better

[radiant birch]

I actually haven't tried dual Turners yet, I should give that a go. I usually gravitate towards the Scudder but I was reminded recently how much higher the Turner's fire rate is

I think I've also recently seen builds that used the Turner to compliment the Ransetsu and Curtis, which seems like a neat approach

[winter sigil]

i used dual scuds for a while but then i wanted to switch to a lighterweight build

turner fires faster and has a deeper mag

[late jay]

I found out that the Attache works really well with the Talbot FCS if I softlock btw

Also lets my missiles lock on much faster too

[late jay]

Also after testing this one some more, found that I can go really fast if I AB shuffle with it, up to 530 meters per second

[wooden nimbus]

My machine's controls are very simple. Hold down RMB +TMB1, tap TMB2 when it's Hux O'Clock, and hold LMB when you want your dance partner to explode.

Very comfy

Everything else is look at the birdy and do funny shuffles

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-personal-kid-teleports-behind-you-elecman-exe-megaman-exe-megaman-battle-network-gif-25890818

Missile kite PoV vs a shuffling heavyweight

[wooden nimbus]

lmao

[radiant birch]

Handler Walter: "igniting the Coral will devastate Rubicon, but it's the only way to protect the rest of the universe"
Old King: [hits blunt] "dude, what if we like... blew up a Cradle"

[latent forge]

What’s the thing on the right?

Kinda looks like something from fear and hunger

[quasi copper]

That’s Old King’s insignia

[latent forge]

Kinda clueless to what that is sorry

[radiant birch]

he's the one who instigates the "become the worst mass murderer in history" ending of AC4A

[quasi copper]

The thing is

Old King’s reasons for killing everyone are slightly more substantial than the meme would lead you to believe

But not that much more substantial, really

[latent forge]

Is that its version of fires of raven?

[radiant birch]

technically that's its version of Alea Iacta Est (ending you can only unlock after getting both other endings in the game) but the tone of it is not unlike Fires of Raven

[quasi copper]

It’s like Fires of Raven but you have way less reasons for doing it

[radiant birch]

although from what i understand of it, it is worse than FoR in that--yeah, that

[latent forge]

So like pointless mass murder (almost pointless)?

[quasi copper]

Okay listen

[radiant birch]

like Fires of Raven you can at least construct an argument for why you did it. the Old King ending is more or less just "fuck everyone, everyone dies"

[quasi copper]

Old King’s reasoning is that you just gotta pull the trigger and kill off all the elites

All of ‘em

Then you can fix the world or whatever

[radiant birch]

all, uh, several million of them?

at least?

[quasi copper]

Hundred million

[latent forge]

Kinda ironic that the thing is called old king then

[quasi copper]

But by the time you’re finished the killing, realistically, the damage to humanity as a species is so nightmarish that recovery might be impossible

[latent forge]

Alr, thx for the explanation!

[quasi copper]

You do not, in fact, have to hand it to Old King

[radiant birch]

because you've also destroyed the flying cities that are the alternative to Earth's now barren and inhospitable surface

from my understanding it's sort of equivalent to Char Aznable's "throw a meteor at the earth and force them to figure it out" approach from Gundam, except that you actually pull it off

in this case trying to force humanity back to earth's surface rather than off of earth's surface, but still

i do want to play AC4 and ACFA sometime

they are on my list

[quasi copper]

It’s good!

NEXTs handle like jackrabbits on coke

[radiant birch]

yeah, i've seen the videos 😛

be interesting to play games that make AC6's combat seem slow-paced and deliberate

[quasi copper]

The videos do not prepare you for how it feels to control one of these things tbh

It really feels like you’re trying to control a comet with a steering wheel

The only direction the comet wants to go is forwards, hard, FAST

[radiant birch]

https://tenor.com/view/sanic-the-hedgehob-running-gotta-go-fast-fast-gif-4964355

[serene kettle]

To be clear, in the ending of For Answer, the Corporations and ORCA ultimately agree to execute the Closed Plan, which consists of "directly sacrifice the rest of humanity to build a rocket ship so the rich people can try to colonize another planet." Not just abandon them, but actively cut power to the arcologies. It's the ultimate fuck you I've got mine.

Old King's plan is brutal, but it's fundamentally a rejection of that: "We can't save everyone, but it is wrong for you to choose who lives and who dies. If we're going down, we're going down together."

For Answer's themes are transparently environmentalist, so it's not hard to draw parallels to real life either - the cause of the pollution is science fiction technology here, but ultimately its effect and the greater antagonist of the game is Super!Climate Change.

The rich and powerful make earth unlivable fighting constant wars and plan to let the poors deal with their mess while they just up and leave.

[radiant birch]

Okay that is really intriguing

Like I said, i need to get around to playing the AC4 duology

[late jay]

If I remember correctly, the 4th Gen AC games were the first games Miyazaki directed too

[late jay]

So yea, that checks out since that's usually what his stories involve

I really wanna try the 3rd Gen games sometime

[serene kettle]

AC3 is unironically one of the best in the series.

[late jay]

From what I gather, the story is basically Plato's Cave Allegory flavored with eco-fascism in the sense of the main antagonists thinking "humanity is too dangerous to coexist with nature and thus need to be contained"

When in reality it's not the average person fucking up the Earth but greedy corporations looking to shift to blame to "human nature"

Which is something I see far too often irl tbh

[serene kettle]

AC3 is a weird one because you start in a techno-theocratic society. The Controller (or DOVE in the original japanese, and confirmed in the english translation in Silent Line) is the thing that runs all infrastructure and people worship it

The plot follows it slowly breaking down and beginning to experience malfunctions. God going senile.

||The ending reveals that DOVE wasn't malfunctioning at all in a conventional sense - it merely wanted to die, and its actions were to provoke humanity into destroying it.||

[wooden nimbus]

I am biased because Master of Arena and AC2 were the first two that I played to completion and conveniently they were canonically tied to one another

But 3 is amazing

[hushed trellis]

I loved AC3 years ago. Tried playing last year and my mind violently rejected the control scheme. I forgot about that weird period where game devs didn't know what to do with dual sticks

[patent oyster]

https://fixvx.com/figsoku_r/status/1876801177083367516?t=mTLQnA_0ztbLi3hBmPDfmg&s=19

Not 30MM unfortunately but

[unborn igloo]

looks siiiiiiick

[eager vector]

the skirt lowkey ruins alba legs for me

[polar osprey]

Idk if it's just me

But the front skirt looks incorrectly posed in that pic

I'm almost certain it doesn't jut out that far in-game

Or maybe it does and i'm just misremembering

It looks weird somehow

[eager vector]

iirc it does

[polar osprey]

Huh

Well, Alba is cool anyway

[wooden nimbus]

That's why I think Alba legs look better on some heavier cores, the skirt looks more natural on them

Melander fits good

[radiant birch]

I do like me a good Melander core on Alba legs, it must be said

[late jay]

Yea, I got one like that too

[latent forge]

Looks like it could dance

[patent oyster]

Steel maid ortus

[wooden nimbus]

I like the HAL core too much to stop using it

[loud peak]

Lmao may I share this with a friend

[unborn igloo]

Yeah! It's not mine

[deft bridge]

https://bsky.app/profile/voheiin1506.bsky.social/post/3ldvb6gzaxs2o

voheiin (@voheiin1506.bsky.social)

get irasutoyaed
#ARMOREDCOREVI #アーマードコア6

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Bluesky · Dec 22, 2024, 11:00 AM

who is the middle right, i can tell who everyone else is

o k'eefe? maybe

[loud peak]

Coffee and tired as hell? O'Keefe

Also wearing the same kind of jacket as Snail

[serene kettle]

The real giveaway that it's O'Keefe is the flower on the mug

Though the bobbypins and twintails kinda threw me for a few seconds - not that men can't do whatever they want with their hair, but it's a fairly feminine presentation

[late jay]

I can't believe they made Chatty into a Roomba

[surreal vine]

Noticing the artist depicted Rusty's undersuit as something like MGS2 Raiden's suit

[latent forge]

Man this emblem looks great, what chapter of the story does I appear in?

[serene kettle]

4, but only on the secret route

you can fight him in the Arena way earlier though

[vast vapor]

Actually, armored core should be illegal

https://www.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/s/I2I6U8Pm8e

[unborn igloo]

cursed, i love it

[late jay]

Same

[late jay]

https://youtu.be/0XEcajb7ITs?si=LpkuEdRMw109sx-0

https://youtu.be/LpI-TLJEdgY?si=InFRyrz142tx_XRM

[deft bridge]

https://x.com/Elani_s222s/status/1878470562949083574

Elani (@Elani_s222s) on X

pile bunker ball point pen!
could be a Balaam office supply idk. i love the pile bunker too much.
#ARMORDCORE #アーマードコア #AC6

Twitter · Jan 12, 2025, 3:54 PM

[radiant birch]

we could have had it alllll~

[cursive agate]

It does seem like something the RRI would make, pair with non-piloted ACs so you don't have to worry about Gs.

[radiant birch]

i love the idea of getting to sacrifice weaponry for speed

people already do absurd things with lightweights, this would take that to the next level

[patent oyster]

I feel like it would necessitate some weird coding to either force the boosters take up both back slots, or add flight mechanics for asymmetrical thrust

[cursive agate]

would need to eat both back slot or something yea

[radiant birch]

I mean apparently they were a thing in previous games, so presumably they'd be implemented the same way in AC6

[patent oyster]

In precious games, they were an extension that took up a seperate slot. If they were to implement the back boosters in ac6, they would need to add it to the core expansion menu (the best option that doesnt require a rework of the AC creation system) and find a different part on the AC playermodel to fit the shoulder weapons

[radiant birch]

Mmmm

I think I would prefer the "takes up both shoulder slots, somehow" approach over that, then

The tradeoff of firepower for mobility is what makes them interesting to me

[patent oyster]

Id rather trade the expansion slot

Actually, it depends on whether the extra boosters would be toggleable (sort of like extra QBs) or passively increase your top speed

[late jay]

It would be cool if there was an expansion that was like Overboost from the older gen games

Or just caused EN Anomaly

Or both

[eager vector]

LIMITER RELEASE

That shit was cool

[quasi copper]

back boosters were shoulder slot weapons in fA

[radiant birch]

I think that'd require a pretty substantial rebalance of the expansion slot overall; right now all of the options are geared towards being powerful but momentary advantages that can turn the fight at a tipping point, and it'd be hard to balance that against a permanent, passive buff

[radiant birch]

Granted this is entirely theoretical based on the YouTuber linked above, but their mockup for stats was a modest (20%-ish) buff to regular thrust, and a substantial (30-50%ish) buff to QB and AB thrust

So the actual mechanical effect is passive, but the nature of the buff encourages active booster use

I just like the boosters in the shoulder slots because I find the inherent trade-off of it interesting, and because the magnitude of that trade-off encourages making the benefits of the boosters significant

Like rather than buffing mobility a bit, I prefer an approach where you're really going all in on it, you know?

Mind you, I can't even begin to think what effect this would have on PVP balancing

[eager vector]

It is also the torso piece of the AAS03 ekdromoi EP

[radiant birch]

Yeah, the first video mentioned that they'd initially written the data off as an Ekdromoi part until they ran across footage of an early PS4 build where it was being used as a player AC part

I wonder if Fromsoft decided to repurpose the model after deciding to cut the part from the game

[eager vector]

Yeah that’s a good guess I think

[cursive agate]

Probably completely terrifying for lightweight missile kites to deal with, since they can't run away fast enough.

[patent oyster]

This is why i want the tradeoff to be no access to armour-type expansions

Because pulse armour is such a powerful reset tool

The decision becomes one where you need to pick between increased mobility and the ability to reset stagger on command

If you traded weapons for boosters, it would just solidly put the game into a kite meta

And revive the rat builds

[patent oyster]

And then the lw missile kites fully revert to lw missile rats, use dual hand missiles to gain AP lead, then run for the rest of the match and win because they did 50 damage at the beginning

[late jay]

It is done

[eager vector]

Fuck Yeah

[radiant birch]

oh we are cooking here

[late jay]

Ye

[wooden nimbus]

Hell yeah

[eager vector]

I think you should desaturate the forklift decal

[late jay]

What do you mean?

Also I didn't make it, I found it on AC Companion

@eager vector https://ac-companion.app/posts/4772

[eager vector]

It stands out too much from the other yellows I think. Can you edit it?

[late jay]

Nope

[eager vector]

Ah

[late jay]

I also kinda wanted it to stand out tbh

[radiant birch]

Forklift certification is important

[late jay]

Thoughts on the overall build btw?

[winter sigil]

I'm not qualified to speak on the matter it's like twice the weight of my usual builds

[cursive agate]

Frame parts look solid, I don't have much experience with missile-heavy builds, but I see the idea to it.

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/launch-missiles-cartoon-gif-9911832

Ngl, I feel like I can't live without missiles in AC6, however I don't want to go for missiles only

Also the G3 hand cluster missiles do a surprising amount of damage

[cursive agate]

I've been experimenting with the more unusual missiles in arena/AC-mostly missions, but it's hard to beat the regular missile packs for consistencey.

[late jay]

Although at the same time, it better since it's the heaviest of the hand missile launchers

[late jay]

I know the Schneider Pulse Missiles are popular as an offhand weapon

Standard fire seems effective against fleeing or kiting enemies around mid to long range while the charged fire is better for aggressive opponents and close quarters

[serene kettle]

I did missiles only for NG++ and it was fun but I definitely wouldn't want that to be all of my builds lol

that was before they nerfed the shit out of APERTIF though

[keen hedge]

Do wish nerfs were contained to the multiplayer element but understand why not

[wooden nimbus]

I love aperitif

[late jay]

I would like the Aperitif if it had multi-lock

[wooden nimbus]

I keep forgetting multi lock exists

Even in the big swarm missions I tunnel so hard

[radiant birch]

i love multilock, it's my go-to chaff clearer

Aperitif is a lot of fun, though

very much a dueling pressure weapon, but very good at that

[wooden nimbus]

My machine is a machine that turns a single hostile into molten slag

The downside is I will also blow my alpha strike on a basic MT for zero reason other than style

Opps tried to spin the block with 12 MT-E-104s, turned them to a fuckin example

I'm on that Rubiconian Worm Sludge Coral Crystal, this shit ain't nothin to me man

[serene kettle]

You can use Aperitif as a melee weapon if you’re not a coward

[late jay]

?

[serene kettle]

you can fire it point blank and the missiles will appear inside the target

[late jay]

O

O H

[wooden nimbus]

Casually spawns thirteen missiles inside your cockpit

[late jay]

https://art.ngfiles.com/images/5610000/5610399_676402_mega-kot_untitled-5610399.f938c72f28a600fb3578661d87e7a10b.gif?f1712910182

[late jay]

How good do you think ALLMIND would be at training people to drive a forklift?

Because my thought was not great

[unborn igloo]

If the training is anything like the arena tutorials, at least she'd be thorough

[late jay]

True

[wooden nimbus]

AC1 tutorial be like "sink or swim champ"

AC6 has a really nice tutorial in comparison

[serene kettle]

Describing AC1’s introduction as a tutorial is borderline dishonest lol

“What are the controls? You’re the pilot, you figure it out. Better hurry tho.”

AC2 is kind enough to at least give you a few seconds before any enemy has clear LOS to you and much weaker enemies

[loud peak]

They used to have a manual

[serene kettle]

This is true

[late jay]

Would be nice if you could play it before the first mission ngl

[eager vector]

the first mission is a decent tutorial imo

[serene kettle]

The boss is the only part that really gives people pause for the most part

[scarlet pagoda]

I still don't understand why

[serene kettle]

It’s not that bad but if you’re not used to the game yet it can wreck your shit pretty fast

It’s the first thing you fight that requires anything more than a couple of taps from the Turner

[scarlet pagoda]

It's not an easy fight for sure but it wasn't gundyr

[serene kettle]

Oh sure, but most introductory bosses aren’t Gundyr

[wooden nimbus]

Iudex Gundyr was hilarious

[scarlet pagoda]

It also made me realize how not good lock on is for me

[serene kettle]

That really is a rough toss into…not quite the deep end, but very unkind

[wooden nimbus]

"okay tutorial boss, I'm getting this do- no no no no"

[scarlet pagoda]

I've not used the lock on mechanic since

[scarlet pagoda]

Yeah

[wooden nimbus]

I should go replay donk solus triple

[scarlet pagoda]

I've sharpened myself by playing elden ring the wrongest possible way, I've entered AC6 just like 621, basically fucking dead

Nothing the game could do would be worse then whatever the fuck was me playing elden ring

[serene kettle]

Lmao

[scarlet pagoda]

I play games the same way a cat finds a place to nap

"if I can, I will"

So anyway did you know you can skip the sentinel? I didn't

It reminded me of dark souls 1

Where I've beaten most of the game

After forgetting you can upgrade weapons

It was not fun

[serene kettle]

lol

as a verified insane person who has maxed out my elden ring saves trying out different builds, I did just start killing the Tree Sentinel right out the gate because I could by my third or fourth character

[scarlet pagoda]

It took me over 30 tries

[river junco]

Maaaaan fuck

I just rewatched the Thumb fight and I never got the dialogue where he kills you before

“It’s better this way….. it’s better this way….
You must understand, Seria”
I think based on that second line one of my giant questions about Dolmayan was finally answered lol

Also “for none of us shall cast the die” still goes insanely fucking hard

I love the themeing around rubicon as the point of no return

[late jay]

Wait, does he think Ayre is Seria?

[cursive agate]

Probably just thinking about Seria again

[late jay]

Figured

Btw, would you all recommend Turner/Scudder + Ransetsu-RF?

[radiant birch]

That's not a bad combo, yeah

Ransetsu has really good DPS/stagger buildup but a slow fire rate, Turner/Scudder keeps the pressure up with a constant bullet stream

I might go with Turner over Scudder for that just because it fires and reloads faster

[winter sigil]

and has a deeper mag

I'm a freak and have run either dual Turners or dual Scudders forever so I'm pretty familiar with them

[late jay]

Aight

Really wish the AR got buffed tbfh

[eager vector]

I’d use turner/scudder if they were full auto

[late jay]

They are?

Or do you mean if they didn't have magazines and just continuously fired?

[eager vector]

Maybe I misremembered, I thought you had to squeeze the trigger for every shot

I may have been thinking of Curtis

[cursive agate]

Curtis/Harris, and Ransetsu-RF are semi-auto for normal shots

[late jay]

Yea

[eager vector]

Oooh maybe it was ransetsu I wanted to use and was bothered that it was semi auto

[late jay]

I like the Curtis a lot

[radiant birch]

Curtis is fun

not overheating after a charged shot is underrated imo

[late jay]

Yea

I like the Curtis with the Butt Blade

Charged Curtis into stagger, then standard Pulse Blade swings, QB forward to my target after they get knocked back and ending with a point-blank charged Curtis

[river junco]

For those curious my question was

Why did seria leave him

And I think based on this dialogue it’s because he refused coral release

[cursive agate]

I recall Thumb stopped taking enough Coral to maintain Contact, since he's still a normal human without Coral augmentation or other stuff.

[late jay]

I thought he left her

[unborn igloo]

Pretty sure they parted ways after learning about coral release. That's why his influence sorta declines among the RLF, and why he disagrees with their worship

[late jay]

Found that the Ransetsu-RF and the Attache pair really well together btw

[radiant birch]

oh yeah that would work too

[late jay]

Also, I feel like mid-range FCSs work best when you softlock and close-range is for hardlocking

The Talbot seems to be great for switching between both tho

[cursive agate]

Talbot hard-lock moves between close-mid without too much trouble in my experiences, though I still take WLT if mostly mid-range and don't worry about EN load.

[late jay]

Yea

Also I feel like the best arms with the Ransetsu-RF and Attache so far are the Melander C3, lightweight Arquebus arms (can't remember their number), Firmeza, and the HAL arms since they all have excellent Firearm Specialization and don't deal with any recoil from both guns firing at the same time

[late jay]

Still wondering what I should pick for the back units

[eager vector]

I call the lightweight arquebus arms MAL/REX lol

https://armoredcore.fandom.com/wiki/MAL-RE/REX

[late jay]

Nineball arms

Also, it just me or does the Mind Beta head look like the Regis from Pokemon?

[serene kettle]

Melander C3 arms are honestly pretty good all rounders

I feel like those and Basho are what I use more often than not

[late jay]

I use the Basho arms a lot

Sometimes I feel even too much

[serene kettle]

They run into the issue of being the clear frontrunner arms for if you're doing anything at all with melee and not really paying for it anywhere else - they have just ok firearm stats but it's not dramatic enough to make them overspecialized

so if you're packing any melee stuff, basho tends to be clearly the best choice

[late jay]

I have another build that uses the Ephemera arms

Which I would show if I could search in threads on mobile ×⁰×

Just search on PC image posts from me in here and you could probably find it

[peak prawn]

Dont basho have near min gun spec
Admittedly, I'm not sure what's affected by firearm spec and what's affected by fcs, and whether you can make up for one with the other

[serene kettle]

It has poor firearm spec but it’s really not bad enough for you to notice it much

It also has good enough recoil control that you’ll probably never even experience recoil accuracy loss unless dual wielding high fire rate weapons (and why are you using basho if you’re double triggering?)

So there won’t be recoil exaggerating the effect

[cursive agate]

I tend to take VP-46D (thin Arquebus) instead since I don't like tanking FCS lock time, though really high FCS stat can help offset Basho better at the cost of flexibility.

Can go the opposite direction and dump Melee Spec with charged Wurger, or Bazooka instead.

[serene kettle]

You can!

there are certainly lots of builds that have no reason to care about melee spec, and for those you can probably find an option better than Basho

It's always worth considering if you are packing a melee weapon, though.

[radiant birch]

i'm a VP-46D fan, but admittedly i'm biased against Basho bc i just don't like the way that it looks with most other frame parts

i am glad that 1.07 buffed melee spec on the two Arquebus arms to at least make them viable alternatives for hybrid melee builds

[late jay]

Should I bring in the Pile Bunker with the Attache/Ransetsu combo?

[eager vector]

Yes

[late jay]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-6-ac6-ac-pile-bunker-meele-gif-10620406487439158291

Kinda liking the RF with the Spring Chicken since I can combo the charged shot very reliably with the kicks since it comes out so fast

Could probably go with kick + charged RF to stagger into PB

I'm already gonna be up in the enemy's face once they're staggered, so they can't really do much about it

And with that, should I take the 10 cell standard missiles or the spit missiles for better mid-range coverage?

Either or works since I'm gonna be running the Talbot

Also considering lightening up a bit with the Mind Beta legs

[eager vector]

heavier kicks beefier

I like 6 cell missiles over 10 tho

[cursive agate]

Split missiles take less time to fire off, but 10-cell firing a stream is more sustained pressure.

[serene kettle]

I'm a 10-cell lover

[winter sigil]

no need for more than 4 cells

[late jay]

Kinda liking this chonker

[late jay]

I like picking parts that match more or less aesthetically

And I feel like I managed to find a good balance between function and form with this one

I like more grungy industrial mechs

Also I kinda wanna work on softlocking more

[late jay]

What do you all think tho?

[cursive agate]

Very chunky build, feels like something you'd find near RaD controlled areas with that mix of parts and weapons.

[late jay]

Yea, that's kinda the point

Ended up switching my FCS to the Talbot instead btw, the Ransetsu-RF and Attache are a little more towards the close range side

[unique bison]

I mean call upon you pilots to help me finding a good fast laser shotgun build

[late jay]

I made one a little while ago

[radiant birch]

I can't post it right now bc on my phone at work, but I made an energy spec build a little while ago that has a laser rifle in the right hand and swaps between the laser shotgun and moonlight in the left

Though that one was midweight so it may be slower than you're going for

Honestly I don't think you can go wrong just dual wielding the laser shotties, they're good, flexible weapons

Poke at close or medium range, or slap on thrusters with good vertical lift and rain down AOE charged shots from above

Actually by "laser shotgun" are we taking the 66LS or the Wuerger?

[late jay]

@unique bison Found it here

[unique bison]

thx

[late jay]

Update to the build

Found that the RF in my right hand lets me charge it up as a finisher after the Pile Bunker if it doesn't kill

Also the 10 Cell missiles last longer than the split

And has lower EN burden

[late jay]

Also I love RaD's parts

[late jay]

Also I noticed that for some reason I'm compelled to never use parts from the same set most of the time

[radiant birch]

yeah same. i like to mix them up

[late jay]

Kinda feeling like this one might be a keeper btw

Wondering what I should paint it like

[radiant birch]

i'm feeling like... some kind of metallic sheen and then one of the maximum-value wear options to have it beat/rusted to shit

seems like it'd fit the grungy industrial aesthetic

[late jay]

Hm

Idk about maximum wear, but I do like the idea of giving it a little wear to show its age, like an old but well-maintained machine

[wooden nimbus]

Hmmm it is giving me "hazard yellow/orange"

DeWalt coded

[late jay]

I was thinking vermillion

[wooden nimbus]

I am going to google that color and pretend I know what it is

It gave me like four different shades of red

[late jay]

It's like a deep red-orange

[keen hedge]

It's wild how much realism just a touch of wear and tear can add to a design

[late jay]

A thought just hit me

Home Depot mech

[distant crown]

https://bsky.app/profile/rattlegeist.bsky.social/post/3lgiuzkbnwc2z

Geist (@rattlegeist.bsky.social)

“I won’t miss.”
V4 Rusty & 621 vs IA-02: ICE WORM

Thank you all so much for 2k! <3

Bluesky · Jan 24, 2025, 5:06 PM

[polar osprey]

VI Rusty :D

[serene kettle]

Subsumed Maeterlinck

😛

[polar osprey]

?

Oh

Woops lmao

It's IV Rusty not VI Rusty

Forgor my roman numerals for a second

Mfw V.IV Rusty

[late jay]

Vrusty

[late jay]

Beat Iguazu in record time with this AC

[late jay]

Also swapped the 10 Cell missiles for the heavy swarm missiles

Kinda feel like the Attache + Ransetsu make all the missiles a bit redundant

[cursive agate]

They fill a similar use case at kinda-different range bands, yea

[late jay]

Finding the swarm missiles are better at setting up for Pile Bunkers since they have a bit of a delay, also letting me fire them from a different position and then ABing to wrap around catch them in a pincer with my guns

Also, they really buffed the Hokushi generator a lot

Now it's practically like a mini Coral Generator akin to the Yaba, great for staying in midair if you got a weapon with recoil

And arguably better since it still retains its rapid recharge if you don't use up all your EN at once

Tried the big homing missiles too, but they're just too slow imo

[cursive agate]

Active Homing? They're more of a threat than reliable damage, more effective in PVP where players can forget about them.

[late jay]

I feel like the swarm missiles are a bigger threat tbh since I can just keep moving to avoid the active homing

The swarm is much more unpredictable

[wooden nimbus]

That's why I like aperitif, when you keep someone's attention it's very easy to force them to lose sight of the thirteen missiles sitting in your thruster trail waiting to pounce on them

[cursive agate]

Balam-styled build based on G13's config, potentially swapping the Active Homing x1 for something else though. Put this together after noticing how little I used Balam/Dafeng frame parts.

AC Name: MUFFLER

• Active Homing x1 Missile for better uptime, and reduced weight.
• Explosive Thrower because I really don't like Dafeng's Bazooka (Might try the GOU-CHEN GL for more range).
• Melander (non-C3) core for more bulk.

[late jay]

Noice

[unique bison]

i lost my NG+ and NG++ 😦

[wooden nimbus]

Ouch

[unique bison]

i need to get back in the game and rebeat the coral waifu then

also here's my laser chicken

[polar osprey]

ooh nice paint scheme

[unique bison]

thx

maybe i'll switch the lazer canon for the song bird

[polar osprey]

this is my main build

[unique bison]

humm... smg could be fun too 🤔