Armored Core General!

[modern hornet]

Eh, the only thing from Wrecker that's legitimately bad is the Arms, having THE worst Firearms and Melee Specialization stats in the game making them genuinely unusuable. Everything else about it can work well if you know how to play it right.

[polar osprey]

if you use the full set you can become invincible, like Rummy

[modern hornet]

Mad Stomp's half Wrecker half Tian-Qiang, though

[cursive agate]

RaD makes oddball specific parts, that may overspecialize

[modern hornet]

and not the good parts of either frame, at that. Wrecker Arms and Tian-Qiang Head? Not surprised in the least that the man is ranked dead last in the Arena.

[patent oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139425181010509894/1263422359864606720/Invincible.mp4?ex=669a2d43&is=6698dbc3&hm=4873b26a34f08deef86cfc18b32ad10a4cc1087a46dcd7e7c41794a765ebc36b&

True

[chrome bronze]

Also yah it’s Honest Brute who uses the full wrecker set

[polar osprey]

ooooh

[serene kettle]

oh sure, I totally agree. I used wrecker core on my first mech and wrecker head on my second to beat the game with little issue 😛

actually I've used RAD frame parts on all of my first few mechs; Queen of Nails didn't run Wrecker, but the loader 4 head is RAD

and all of the loader 4 frame parts are actually quite solid for their weight and en drain

[polar osprey]

i think Pale Painter is a hodgepodge

so is Ruber

[chrome bronze]

Pale Painter?

[polar osprey]

the original iteration of my personal AC

Ruber is its successor

[chrome bronze]

Ahhh ok

[polar osprey]

Pale Painter

[chrome bronze]

Oh that looks cool

[polar osprey]

Pale Painter Ruber

[chrome bronze]

Oh shit that’s nice

[polar osprey]

the red represents coral

just for reference

[chrome bronze]

Heres my main mech: Redmane

[polar osprey]

nice

[patent oyster]

I should really decal up my main build

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/GhIcjsMeR-A?si=ZF6s5jP8Mt_8xf69

[serene kettle]

This is amazing, but they definitely snuck some 5th Generation Trailer in there lol

I say "they" not connecting that it's your video

You did

😛

[patent oyster]

Its all 6th gen stuff

Game cutscenes and promo material

[serene kettle]

I guess I thought those were storks at a glance, lol

they're not upon closer inspection

I guess I'll roll my saving throw and point out that the music is clearly Mechanized Memories from Verdict Day 😛

[patent oyster]

I was picking between MM, stain final ver., or stargazer high frequency

Stargazer high frequency fit the best thematically and for BPM, but mechanized memories is just too hype

[serene kettle]

it's a very good piece!

[languid sand]

Makes you feel scary

[polar osprey]

very good thing cause i am definitely scary

me and my AC out here doing shit

[sage wasp]

Question: I got randomly demoted from A1 rank to B3 today, despite not losing any games recently- does anyone know why this is?

[quasi copper]

rank reset

[sage wasp]

ooo

[chrome bronze]

I forget in what route do you kill father Dolmayan?

[patent oyster]

NG++

[chrome bronze]

Thanks

[grave jolt]

What's everybody's favorite soundtrack in the AC series?
AC V/VERDICT DAY for me.
Stain, Mechanized Memories, Dirty Worker, Forgive an Angel and how could I forget about Day After Day?
It's all so good!

[alpine wharf]

Yeah, I can't argue there

VD is just 100% bangers

There are no AC games with a bad soundtrack

[waxen nest]

Mechanized Memories, for a specific song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBmPvWyQ-HY

especially this version

which still isn't on spotify 😔

[patent oyster]

I think stain final version juuust edges out mechanized memories for me

[languid sand]

Shining just does it for me

[loud peak]

Someone is always moving on the surface

Thinker

Perfect Rose

Flood of a life

Got a few more

[languid sand]

As for non official

Goodbye Thinker

[twin estuary]

boot up the co op mod, invade someone's session, they died to mobs by the time i load in, so it just gives me the mission to complete instead ????

extremely funny

[twin estuary]

invade again, its the ayre fight, we kill the player fast, then it gives me her second phase to fight lmfao

[serene kettle]

I think AC1's soundtrack hits a particular point of nostalgia for me that's hard to top, but attempting to speak more objectively, Verdict Day and For Answer both have really strong soundtracks.

I don't even like For Answer's gameplay, gen 4 is my least favorite, but the music is top notch

[modern whale]

An ongoing collection of me dunking on some of the AC6 bosses

I still gotta get a good one for Balteus

I should also grab a better pic of the new-and-improved SLAPFIGHT

[twin estuary]

i jumped a two man and deleted one so fast the host ragequit

i kept getting sorted into the same people's missions until i suddenly ran out of games to invade i think i made everyone ragequit for the day

[modern whale]

I also went and took down Michigan

Third attempt

[modern whale]

Ibis will take some creativity I am finding

[twin estuary]

the saving grace with the ibis fight is that she has only a couple of patterns

she opens the same way every time and only has like like half a dozen patterns she switches between

so you just gotta run it back a few times until you find her tells and then you can start reading her

[modern whale]

True, I just need to pick a loadout that can dole out enough damage and can track or accurately land at mid/close range

I've tried running shotguns or pistols but getting close enough to really capitalize on them is a headache

[twin estuary]

you can make almost anything work but fast is good, biped legs or the wheelchair treads are solid

[modern whale]

I'm getting pretty good at KOing phase 1, phase 2's the one tripping me up

[twin estuary]

the energy lance heavy attack will cross the entire planet of rubicon, it might help

[modern whale]

That honestly might

As much as I love the pulse blade or Pile Driver, they aren't enough for this one

I might also need to invest in a mounted pulse shield

Give myself more openings to hit since she gets stationary or easy to hit during certain attacks that I can't exploit since I need to dodge

I've been running a C3 Melander with the spring chicken legs, cycling different weapon loadouts

It has enough speed to dodge most of what she throws at me to the point where I can get to the first phase 1 stagger chance with hardly any damage

Might change my thrusters since iirc I'm wearing a set that goes for verticality and I need better horizontal movement

And the legs let me jump

[twin estuary]

if you havent done it in a while it might be a good idea to go through the powerplants and thrusters you have and figure out which one gives the most # of qbs vs time between qbs vs recharge rate

[cursive agate]

I end up swapping to a long-mid FCS setup to deal with Ibis on heavier builds. You'll want a strong FCS to keep track (of Ibis in general)

[modern whale]

Yeah fair, I'll dig around and see what I got for both of those, plus FCS

I usually stick to a mid/close FCS but I suspect I'm gonna need something more versatile or ranged

I did get the laser lance and am in love with the thing

(I also grabbed a pic of nailing Balteus)

Getting used to the lance via previous bosses so I can get a good feel of how it works with my build

[patent oyster]

You need any assistance with the boss?

[modern whale]

I think I got a general idea of how to approach it now

I'm not in a rush to get Ibis finished tonight

I cleared the arena and got through Michigan and the first Rusty fight today

So I feel I've done plenty, Ibis can wait till I've got a fresher pair of eyes

[patent oyster]

Ibis is mostly just waiting for openings

Ive seen someone beat it with nothing but headbuts (no weapons, kicks, or punches)

[modern whale]

That makes sense, I'm usually an impatient kind of player who muscles through an enemy's attacks to get them down

So it's a nice change of pace and challenge to play punching upwards again

[surreal tundra]

pffft

[surreal tundra]

oh pfffft

[patent oyster]

||https://youtu.be/KJzlHU6lQxE?si=jVb1LTfNxB_4D7dN||

[patent oyster]

LoR spoilers

[wooden nimbus]

very pretty fight

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/GryGVR-PNM0?si=fMEqqgJ8mDF5FICm

[nova quiver]

https://x.com/armoredcore/status/1816473483771072954

ARMORED CORE (@armoredcore) on X

#ARMOREDCORE VI FIRES OF RUBICON has sold over 3 million units!
Thank you to all Ravens, new and old, who have braved the fires and flown on borrowed wings.

Twitter · Jul 25, 2024, 2:00 PM

[polar osprey]

fuck yes

[chrome bronze]

Do we have stated design philosophies for the other companies like we have for Dafeng and Balem?

[serene kettle]

not in a catchy motto way, I think, but at least some Schneider parts clearly state they're a specialist in aerodynamic research

[patent oyster]

Schneider likes to go fast

Elcano likes stylish ACs

[polar osprey]

Elcano dripped the fuck out with their AC's

[chrome bronze]

Makes sense

They’ve got some of the lightest parts in the game

[radiant birch]

Schneider ACs are lightweights that bounce around, Elcano ACs are also lightweight but more grounded

Arquebus believes in overwhelming force via advanced technology

[chrome bronze]

I’d say Elcano is more defined by their parts being, bulkier then the average lightweights

[serene kettle]

yeah they definitely have specialties, but the question was about directly stated design philosophies

[chrome bronze]

Yah

Did kinda wish they all had their own little slogan

Because like, Balam and Dafeng parts do follow the design

It’s neat

Balam parts are extremely stat dense for their weights and Dafeng Parts do focus on a solid core and not much else

The Dafeng generators being amazing in terms of the base stats of a generator but struggling in more specialist stats like energy firearm spec

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/b5vo0xU_Cgc?si=JLFJ7bYRDbmDZJDV

Huh

[surreal tundra]

oh dang, that makes perfect sense mnzxccz

I can see someone doing that in a brand new save file speedrun XD

actually, not fully sure if any other weapons available at that point can pull off something similar...

[cursive agate]

Cooked up this PVE hovertank build when making/optimizing a x2 Bazooka tetrapod build. Vertical movements throwing off AC6's targeting really helps with the low boost speed, and long QB reload.

• JVLN Alpha for more damage output than Majestic, extra weight isn't a problem, less ammo doesn't matter in shorter missions/boss fights.
• Shao-Wei instead of Huxley because I'm mostly firing in short bursts for pressure, or keeping Impact build-up running. (Swaps to G2 Dual Trueno missiles for PVP use, to snipe players trying to stay at long-range.)
• VP-61PS shoulder shield offsets the long QB reload (1.78), and NGI 000 generator full-empty delay.

[queen willow]

https://vxtwitter.com/dragonbook_game/status/1818089198865494230

???????????????????????????????????????

[deft bridge]

!!!!!!!!!

[surreal tundra]

Wait like an actual TTRPG??

[queen willow]

like a board game style thing maybe, wasn't that what the Dark Souls one was like?

[surreal tundra]

Hm, I wonder if we'd be stuck with prefab models/ACs or if we can actually customise,

[surreal tundra]

https://youtu.be/Rsz9VOnrMBU?si=_wdT-ivYl9vqa_-C
Oh my goddess someone made a TTRPG like Old-gen Armored Core xjdjnff
Or iunno, still watching it

Fuck I'm not getting out of my mecha hyperfixation/special interest anytime soon xjdnfn

[eager vector]

Hard to imagine a better armored core ttrpg than lancer imo

[surreal tundra]

Fair enough, tho I guess this game (as it develops or whatever) is also kinda more in the numbers-and-spreadsheets that goes on with building ACs sometimes lmao,

[radiant birch]

Honestly, having watched the overview, I think Metallurgent replicates the nitty-gritty of AC building much more closely than Lancer does

Which isn't to say that it's better--i think Lancer's comparatively streamlined play experience is going to be preferable for people who don't want an extremely granular gameplay

But I can see this one bringing something to the table as well

Like if you're the type to spend hours and hours tuning your AC build in the garage, or if you're a hopeless Battletech tabletop enthusiast, this game seems like it'll scratch those itches real well

[loud peak]

Ooh neat

[wooden nimbus]

It looks cool but I def think I'd prefer Lancer or something slimmer rules-wise for playing AC TRPG

As much as the garage is fun I don't want to simulate getting wrecked because I didn't exploit enough mechanics

[polar osprey]

gonna try out some AC3

[queen willow]

eh just skip it and play black flag

[quasi copper]

bad

[polar osprey]

jfc that button setup

hopefully i can alter that

[radiant birch]

Oh, is it one of the old "what are analog sticks" AC games?

[polar osprey]

Triggers were up and down for camera and the bumpers were moving left and right

[polar osprey]

yeah this is going to take some adjustment

damn not a lot of cash happening rn

yeah not vibin with the controls

need to try some other control schemes

ok going to try the setup of dpad for movement, face buttons for camera and shoulder buttons and bumpers for everything else

[polar osprey]

gonna need to try to come back to this later

fucked up controls just getting to me too much

it was pretty bad with For Answer already but i just can't with AC3's buttons only thing

there is just no comfortable way for me to have access to all the controls i want

[radiant birch]

Does anyone have a resource for which parts unlock in the shop at which points in the game? It's looking like I might stream a bit for some friends who aren't familiar and I don't wanna overwhelm them with the entire endgame selection 😅

[polar osprey]

AC6?

https://www.powerpyx.com/armored-core-6-vi-all-parts-list-unlock-requirements/

[radiant birch]

AC6 yeah

Thanks!

[polar osprey]

this list seems to have every item in the game and unlock reqs

np

[serene kettle]

I quite like the old school AC games but completely understand not vibing with the controls. They're...different.

[polar osprey]

need to hop on AC6 for a bit and just play with nice controls

[serene kettle]

Idiosyncratic

[polar osprey]

there is just

too much for me to keep track of

i keep forgetting some part

like i'm trying to move the camera and forget to strafe

or i try to strafe and shoot but i press the wrong button and switch my weapon or smthn

with ac6 i just need to

move with left joystick, control Camera when necessary with right, and keep track of my repair and my weapon buttons

lock on also takes off the difficulty of camera whenever i'm in combat, and when i'm not i only need to really worry about the camera and not the weapon buttons

[radiant birch]

I feel like it says something that it took From... what, four PS2 games before they let go of the PS1 control setup?

[polar osprey]

also just, using the shoulder and bumper buttons to actually fucking use the weapons

instead of having a button each to shoot with and then a button to swap between main weapon and shoulders

also lets me actually use the shoulder stuff as auxiliary equipment

instead of needing to put something which can act like a main weapon on cause otherwise when i stap to the shoulder i'm momentarily crippled damage wise

[serene kettle]

Mind you, I'm a broken person who is just used to the old school setup, even if I understand objectively it's deranged lol

[polar osprey]

also in AC3 main wep and both shoulders are on the same swap 💀

so you have to like, quickswap between them like you're swapping a spell in ER or DS

[serene kettle]

though honestly when I replayed AC3 I did it on an emulator and being able to assign things wherever you want on a keyboard does make life easier

[polar osprey]

i'm using a controller so

[serene kettle]

still not as easy as mouselook, but easier

if nothing else you can make WASD make sense and use IJKL or something to look around

instead of the full tank control scenario where you have half the look controls near half the movement controls and the other half of the look controls near the strafe controls

[polar osprey]

default settings had up and down on d-pad as forwards and backwards and the bumpers for strafe

then left to right on d-pad for camera and the triggers as up and down iirc

which is

one of the control schemes of all time

[serene kettle]

yeah that's what I mean

the up/down look is paired with side-to-side movement and the right/left look is paired with forward/back movement

[eager vector]

@polar osprey if you can learn to bunny hop and use flight to help manage vertical target acquisition it’s smoother

but yeah it’s a hell of a learning curve

[patent oyster]

iirc there are mods that enable analogue stick usage

[mint pilot]

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/SGFyNndpjEKswwAEct2jCQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTU0MA--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/gamesradar_237/ea56095542499a755b7540708d9a17f9

[eager vector]

Whoa playing ac3 with analog sticks would maybe be lifechanging

I wonder if I could emulate ps2 armored core on my windows surface pro 4 lmfao

[wooden nimbus]

Always thought it would be fun to get a second stick and map old ac games to the twin joysticks

Using the hat switches and buttons/triggers on my current one I'd have a good 16 buttons at my fingertips on top of the sticks

[languid sand]

Is it weird I don't actually dislike the no analogue stick gameplay?

It adds something for me

[eager vector]

I like it but it was all I had for years so I assume I’ve lost perspective on it

[wooden nimbus]

I just love joysticks

[eager vector]

real

[winter sigil]

ac on dual sticks is very, very fun

[wooden nimbus]

The only thing that bugs me about my T.16000 is there's a bump where a secondary trigger in the stick could be but isn't and I want one.

Just something for my middle finger to do

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/494nBLl0jYo

[serene kettle]

this is very cursed lmao

[patent oyster]

[patent oyster]

https://twitter.com/chromless/status/1819177913956421953?t=nRMD4YEGYa5X6OdoapNMJQ&s=19

くろさび (@chromless) on X

ミールワームぬいぐるみ！ーー？

Twitter · Aug 2, 2024, 1:06 AM

I have a mighty need

[polar osprey]

gonna play some more AC6

read some fanfiction and i suddenly got the feeling of playing the game

[radiant birch]

excellent!

i'm currently streaming a playthrough for some friends on and off

we got up to Operation Wallclimber last week

[polar osprey]

i'm becoming an anime protagonist

only problem rn is EN

i think i've got the build as good as it'll get

[polar osprey]

new ac time

i call it Dawn Anchor

went for a gundam color scheme for the protagonist vibe

ok the EN stuff is still kinda fucking garbage but frankly i don't think i'm going to be able to make it actually go well

it plays really funny and it looks sick as fuck to constantly fling energy beams and shit

good AC? probably not. Fun though? hell yes

[radiant birch]

having fun is what's important!

[polar osprey]

spamming the melee normal attacks and just doing range slices is so fucking cool

[grave jolt]

I'm getting Headcrab vibes from this thing.

[loud peak]

Peak fashioncore

[polar osprey]

much obliged

[surreal tundra]

oh fuck i just realized someone/some people might likely be inclined to try uh
yeah
with them bnmvz
oops

[patent oyster]

Do not the coral mealworm

[surreal tundra]

XD
Ye

[river junco]

god im so fucking ready for six answer

[surreal tundra]

yhessssss-

i need it too

i just hope that 621 and Ayre at least survive everything regardless

[radiant birch]

Personally I'm hoping for Armored Core Six and Violence

[quasi copper]

I had a brain blast, that game's gonna be called Armored Core VIctory

[wooden nimbus]

Genre convention suggests ||if they do we might have to fight em||

[serene kettle]

Pretty much

that or a significant timeskip and their fate left as ambiguous as possible

[modern hornet]

Getting back to my ACVI challenge run after a bit of a break. Started it in style, at least. Just clapped Swinburne before the coward could even plead for his life.

[surreal tundra]

Yeah, but I mean like- ||we fight them and win or lose they can always escape unlike how Nightfall Raven couldn't cuz iunno, and they're able to pull off something with the Coral stuff a la 3rd ending|| iunno

[wooden nimbus]

Ah yeah I get ya

[surreal tundra]

i just- look, the implied ||the fight continues all over the galaxy|| kinda thing with the ||3rd ending|| can be ambiguously good or bad, it's- yeah

[radiant birch]

Pour one out for the aesthetic posters trying to make "armored core" a medieval knight look thing without realizing what they're putting their foot into

[river junco]

Ehhhh, I don’t personally think that’s the ending it’s gonna key off of?

LoR makes more sense to me personally

Tbh since they’ve said (I believe) it’s a dlc, I honestly think we’ll still be 621

[wooden nimbus]

There's dlc coming?

[river junco]

….. oh

I thought that got confirmed????

[pure quiver]

First I'm hearing about it

[river junco]

Thought Miyazaki said they were gonna do a sequel/dlc thingy like for answer

[surreal tundra]

Iunno if For Answer is the best thing to alleviate that anxiety of mine lmao, given that you play as another protag entirely XD

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/g-QFN4t8kKA

[radiant birch]

i'm sorry is that a ronald mcdonald ac

ah, pardon me, "Ronald MechDonald" 😆

[waxen nest]

ran ran ruu

[quasi copper]

ran ran ruu

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/oMUYFlbInds?si=xqNPkTOBXtHvdJyV

[radiant birch]

brrt brrt

[radiant birch]

hell yeah

went back to replay this mission and finally get the last missing combat log from it, then decided to experimentally retry it with a tweaked version of the build i was using

i think it's safe to say that it went well

[polar osprey]

nice

[radiant birch]

now the only combat logs i'm missing are from MIA and... sigh Reach The Coral Convergence

Ibis is not done with me yet, it seems

[polar osprey]

i love fighting Ibis

[radiant birch]

it'll probably be fun to revisit the fight, honestly

i just have residual feelings from getting walled during my first NG run 😛

[polar osprey]

it was one of the easiest fights in the game for me so i have no feelings tied to it

[radiant birch]

it it kinda interesting how wildly different everybody's AC6 experiences are with the bosses

[polar osprey]

i have never lost to Ibis

[radiant birch]

like in my first run i got walled by Balteus and Ibis both, but didn't have any trouble with Sea Spider despite hearing other people talking about that fight being on par with the first two

[polar osprey]

i actually beat Balteus first try too

it sounds like i'm bragging now but that's just how it went

i used shotguns and managed to burst him down

[winter sigil]

I got walled so hard by Michigan

comedically hard it wasn't even funny

[polar osprey]

is that the swarm fight

i hated that mission

fuck everything about that mission

[winter sigil]

yeah it's the G1 Michigan And His Entire Army Of Goons

[polar osprey]

i kept running out of fucking ammo by the time i got to him

G1 Michigan is cool but that fight was a bitch and a half

[winter sigil]

but i eventually locked in and did it on attempt like. 60 or 70 something. without changing my build more than a tiny bit

[radiant birch]

i had a real hard time with that mission my first time around... actually i don't think i got past it, i gave up and did the other one

then my second time around i went in a lightweight build with double vert plasma missiles and double laser handguns and surprised myself by dancing through it with barely a scratch

like i was expecting to get completely trashed. this was fully a "what the hell, might as well throw the new build at it" attempt. and it cleaned up

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/nzj8bQA-OXM

[radiant birch]

found the last Coral Convergence logs and A-ranked Ibis in the process

now it's just MIA left

[radiant birch]

lmao @ those boss subtitles

this also really throws into sharp relief how easy ||Walter|| is compared to the other two

(i maintain that ||Snail Balteus|| is the true final boss of that route, and ||Walter|| just a coda)

[patent oyster]

it was worth searching for the actual font from DMCV

[radiant birch]

...does anybody have a clip of the cutscene that plays after the intro mission, once you enter the garage for the first time on NG?

i'm streaming for some friends, but because i'm on NG+4 that cutscene didn't play

and i'm having trouble finding it on youtube

[radiant birch]

found it

[cursive agate]

Plamsa missiles, and plasma in general clean out that mission amazingly quick. I've noticed good flight time/tetrapod hover saves a lot of trouble too.

[cursive agate]

Tried cooking up a more interesting midweight build for AC6 PVP use, swapped to Biped after not getting the results/weight capacity I wanted with Lammergeier/VP-424 quad legs. May see further adjustments (*swapped arms to Nachtreiher for small AP/Defense trade, *swapped Booster to Flugel for better EN costs), though the build is already pushing limits to fit everything.

[radiant birch]

Intriguing. I've used the Harris + Javelin Alpha arms combo before. I have a little bit of trouble tagging people with the Harris but overall I think it's solid

I think my version had the dual homing missiles + Javelin Beta on the shoulders and a lighter core. It was more of a midweight kite build

[cursive agate]

Using Harris for tapfire/charged shot flexibility, the high velocity charged shot seems to trip up players at mid-long range compared to Bazooka travel time.

[radiant birch]

Is the Huxley there to punish players who try to rush you down? Or do you plan on getting in close with this build?

[cursive agate]

Huxley is mostly anti-rushdown, though also helps with stagger buildup facing builds that aren't close-ranged.

[radiant birch]

I never thought of using it like that before, interesting 👀

[cursive agate]

Got a few C rank matches in, Huxley off cooldown is my cue to play more aggressively against non close-range. NGI 001 boost speed is really nice for controlling distance combined with floor-hopping to break FCS lock.

Swapped to Nacht arms from Firmeza after realizing how little AP/Defense it gives up for more Firearm Spec.

[radiant birch]

And they handle the recoil okay?

[cursive agate]

Ah, forgot about that part, though it seems manageable with the limited magazine of Harris, will need to check later

[polar osprey]

ayy, you got the same Camo as Pale Painter :D

[cursive agate]

Ooooh, noice!

[cursive agate]

1x Harris fires slow enough to not have recoil problems, 1st shot right after Zooka has some spread but settles quickly after that.

[patent oyster]

Id personally use fluegel at that weight class

[cursive agate]

Mmm yea, swapped to Flugel booster because of VP-20C's EN Capacity.

[patent oyster]

...i just beat a dual zimm user using a build with 4x pulse bubble guns

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/k4KHqJNGvfI

[cursive agate]

Opponent underestimating the damage output of pulse guns, and barely dodging good lord.

[polar osprey]

Crazy behaviour tbh

Dodge always

Doesn't mstter if it's a peashooter or a railcannon, damage is damage

[radiant birch]

meta this

[radiant birch]

ended up doing a variation on your build on the Lamm quad legs, this is what i wound up coming up with

wasn't sure what to expect from it, but my test match (against an opponent running RJ vientos + songbird + oscillator) turned out well and was a lot of fun

i think what i like about the quad legs is that it makes it a little more viable to take snapshots with the Javelin Alpha when you think you have an opening

ditto charged shots with the Harris, although i didn't actually try that in this match

[cursive agate]

Noice, I've mostly used charged Harris as a follow-up for stagger breaks I see coming, charging/holding while firing Javelin Alpha, or missiles + Huxley near break.

[radiant birch]

yeah, i think charged LR shots are good for stagger breaks since they have huge burst impact

but i've still got to get a sense for when i can get one off, especially since the Harris overheats after a charge

i have another Lamm build that uses dual Curtises, maybe i can play around a bit with that since they don't overheat so i've got a bit more leeway

[cursive agate]

Hoping that goes well, I've tried using Curtis more but the charged shot feels underwhelming against heavier builds because of low Accumulative Impact.

[radiant birch]

yeah, i like dual-triggering it because you can build up impact with rapid-fire normal shots and then push them over the top with a charged shot

^ i haven't tested this build out yet, but it's a lighter version of a heavy build that i've had some success with:

[radiant birch]

hello friends i am here to tell you that tank ACs have Too Much Fucking AP

five rounds against a heavy tank, managed to with the AP race once

but i performed adequately enough that i'm satisfied, i think this build's a keeper

[cursive agate]

I'm quite baffled that heavy tank legs didn't lose more AP from nerfs, and hovertank didn't lose any AP at all.

Though hovertank is at least offset by mid stability for it's weight, massive hitbox, and poor boost speed.

[radiant birch]

Good grief, the sweat is out in force today

Multiple dual Zims, heavy laser spam, BVO

[surreal vine]

https://fixupx.com/armoredcore/status/1825978617781723177

animated AC thing coming thanks to some new anthology show that just got announced

[quasi copper]

Keanu Reeves looking dude, I wonder if this is supposed to be Joshua O'Brien

that mech looked like White Glint

[surreal vine]

they had a clip in the trailer with a very "up-armored MELANDER head" unit

so unsure

[signal sluice]

Looks pretty cool

[polar osprey]

doin some pvp

the lance sucks to fight

in these matches it's actually hitting me while i'm not even close to it

[radiant birch]

yeah mood, i had a round where i died to an Earshot round that i saw fly past me

upwards, mind, so it's not like i got caught in its blast radius when it hit the ground

[polar osprey]

just fought a really annoying stun build 2 times

but i won

Pale Painter Ruber is supreme

"if the enemy used a ultra-lightweight stun build, it might give me a bit of trouble"
"But would you lose?"
"Nah, i'd win"

[patent oyster]

https://x.com/30mmissions/status/1826182727907094689

30 MINUTES MISSIONS公式SNS (@30mmissions) on X

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「30 MINUTES CHANNEL」
YouTube生配信でお届けいたします！
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#30ミニッツ発表会
#30MM #30MS #30MF

Twitter · Aug 21, 2024, 9:01 AM

[wooden nimbus]

End?

[cursive agate]

Might have more to announce during the stream

[wooden nimbus]

Armored Core VI II

[unique bison]

i love those legs

[radiant birch]

midweight quad builds my beloved

[polar osprey]

midweight good

[radiant birch]

i have been struggling a bit with coming up with a Lamm build that's capable of winning the AP race, though. my PVP session the other day was pretty rough

think my most successful PVP build is still Butcherbird

Oh fucking hell

Just lost a round bc I somehow managed to hit assault boost instead of firing my shoulder weapon

[polar osprey]

i've just been doing Pale Painter Ruber in PvP, middleweight standard going hard

[radiant birch]

actually no, this is my most successful PVP build, thinking on it

earshots a bit overtuned

[serene kettle]

earshot is stronk

[cursive agate]

Double Earshot is downright disgusting if you get caught by the blasts

[radiant birch]

it's an instant stagger on all but the heaviest builds, and even then it's close

[keen hedge]

feels like bringing in goddamn warship artillery

[radiant birch]

i mean, i was going to name the AC "GUNBOAT DIPLOMAT" but it turns out that's too many characters

so it's just "DIPLOMAT"

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/zJ7AMbOafRM?si=RTaiTEJyxoR_EiG8

if anyone wants me to try out their build in one of these vids, ping me with a sharecode

[polar osprey]

🫡

[wooden nimbus]

Excellent song choice

[patent oyster]

Everyone knows yuki hayashi for his work in MHA

But his build fighters stuff is stellar imo

[wooden nimbus]

4CBQBUUFRFLB if you (or anyone) wanna use TEMPEST PROTOCOL for anything, I might update once I have the time and energy to spray decals on it like I did with the classic model GLEIPNIR frames

[polar osprey]

I'll upload Pale Painter Ruber so you can give it a shout

It's not going to be anything overly special to work with i don't think but it's kinda special compared to a lot of the builds i see other people running since it doesn't do anything flashy or meta

[wooden nimbus]

Mood. TP is a very straightforward "machine guns, missiles, assault armor and kicks" mech

It's less designed to be good as to compensate for my visceral disrespect for my EN meter and hitting my trigger buttons repeatedly.

[polar osprey]

ruber is honestly even more simple, you have two missile pods on the back that you shoot when they reload, and you have two machine guns that you simply hold down the triggers for when you are fighting

XCU2XCVFSLVK for Pale Painter Ruber

[wooden nimbus]

Respect

[polar osprey]

it's optimized to be really consistently good

it does nothing especially well but also doesn't really dip much in any scenario

[patent oyster]

i mean i remember giving a few tips about it a few months ago

its not flashy but it definitely works

[polar osprey]

yeah

it's very consistent

[patent oyster]

meanwhile enjoy a dead meme

https://youtu.be/jmYIjgJjoS8

[polar osprey]

which i very much like

[wooden nimbus]

that beat was nice

[deft bridge]

||https://x.com/Elani_s222s/status/1827307421683085729||

spoilers art / idk if it matters at this point

[small stone]

https://www.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/s/DHsFzRTiai

[wooden nimbus]

Love that

[surreal vine]

the ATTACHE is such a cool MG design imo

love how it's got a spare barrels ready-rack and the ammo feed

[wooden nimbus]

Right

[surreal tundra]

holy fuck the artbook for AC6-
the aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart
possible uses for lore lmao

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/l9O9zRWFvf0?si=x431A9Wek9S3EoFI

[wooden nimbus]

This looks so fun to fight tho

[eager vector]

How come you were so passive in the first round?

[patent oyster]

Charged redshift blade + coral missile punish is very potent

And i was trying to gauge their behaviour

Once i established in round 1 that they played passively, i just pushed in round 2

[quasi copper]

https://x.com/Xanadium1/status/1827956879877705946

Xanadium (@Xanadium1) on X

Hal Day?(08/26)
...it speaks in his voice...

(happy anniversary🎊)
#AC6 #ARMOREDCOREVIFIRESOFRUBICON

Twitter · Aug 26, 2024, 6:30 AM

IIIII SEE THE CIIIIIIRCLE

[wooden nimbus]

I am once again playing with stripes

[polar osprey]

time for the return of one of my favourite images

[loud peak]

Hey at least ACs don't blow up from getting decapitated

[polar osprey]

true

[modern hornet]

To be fair, Mobile Suits typically don't blow up from getting decapitated, either. That only happens when their power plant goes critical from battle damage.

Typically as a result of eating a beam weapon to the chest without sufficient anti-beam defenses.

[quasi copper]

Leos explode from getting decapitated

but they also explode from being onscreen in the same scene as a gundam

[polar osprey]

which sucks cause Leo's are supposed to actually be incredibly fucking good MS

but we never see them do anything but job

[surreal vine]

Wha

[polar osprey]

wrong channel

i was wondering where the hell that ended up

[small stone]

Do ac games normally get dlc

[polar osprey]

well

not really

no

what they do tend to get is a second version of whatever game came out or some spin-off

such as with AC4 and ACFA or AC5 and ACV

[surreal vine]

On the flipside FROM has gone more on the "large DLC" side of things with their last releases

with AC having been languishing until 6

[polar osprey]

yeah idk if the pattern will hold

but historically

no AC games have not gotten dlc as we think of it, it's been separate releases

[radiant birch]

i kinda have my fingers crossed for a spinoff-sequel to AC6 in the vein of ACFA, just because it'd be interesting to have a perspective on the 6 universe outside of 621, maybe even see other planets beyond Rubicon

a little more freedom to explore and do something new than if they're stapling more content onto to base game

but we'll see

[modern hornet]

Armored Core 4 Answer is a direct sequel to Armored Core 4, though. It’s set ten years after the LYNX War, you even get to fight against/alongside the Raven from AC4 at one point in the game.

[quasi copper]

yeah but ACVD is a distant sequel to AC5

[serene kettle]

Technically verdict day got some cosmetic dlc but that was the really early days

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ecxsCas8UQA

Notably they did an alternate music pack with mixes from prior games

[radiant birch]

"sequel 10 years later from a different character's perspective" is still a different animal from "direct expansion"

In any event, my point was that the possibility space for a spinoff sequel is bigger, which is why I would like if they went with that approach

[simple shoal]

if I wanted to make a tortuga build what should i pick

[proven bison]

Haldemans probably

[wooden nimbus]

I decal'd out TEMPEST PROTOCOL

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/p4Nf6xOILVM?si=ocqbzqDaAhgbEfKf

Kikaku+lance is pretty fun ngl

[wooden nimbus]

Oooh

Oh that was a fun fight

[inland sluice]

The first and the 3rd pic is kinda eh but I like the rest.

[radiant birch]

ngl i kinda love the "heavy weapons on light frame" aesthetic

[wooden nimbus]

It's pretty cool looking

I wanna fuss with some builds but I always return to machine gun and missile

[steep meadow]

I gotta get back to emulating AC4A and AC4, it's so good

[wooden nimbus]

I am begging fromsoft to remaster ACVD+prior AC titles and put them on PC so I don't have to learn how emulation works.

I did some old PS1/2 games a long time ago

[languid sand]

The main issue is that like every game was published by a different group

Including Ubisoft

[wooden nimbus]

D:

[radiant birch]

oh jeez yeah, AC4 and AC4A had like three different international publishers between the two of them

...also i didn't know Miyazaki directed those. Apparently AC4 was his debut as a director. that's neat

[wooden nimbus]

I'm going to punch publishers into submission

[copper minnow]

Yeah old AC is a licensing nightmare.

It's a problem with many a cult classic.

[wooden nimbus]

goofy little man

[radiant birch]

brrrrrrrt

all you need is dakka

[twin estuary]

this is the pose a three year old makes when theyre about to shit their pants

[eager vector]

the recoil on this is gonna be wild lol

[radiant birch]

i mean there's some weapons that just can't be helped by recoil control (i think that literally the hand gatlings fire faster than recoil control is coded to kick in)

so you just let volume of fire compensate for accuracy

[wooden nimbus]

Recoil means little when you are three inches away and kicking anyway

The gremlin is simply a cone of "your AP, hand it over"

[cursive agate]

Recoil Control slows the bloom of x1 Gatling, but x2 quickly maxes out still.

[glad sierra]

So i’m now a little further into this game. Man this shit is fun. Man the Strider mission was cool

[radiant birch]

hell yeah the Strider mission rocks

it's a great setpiece mission

i've been streaming the game for friends and i occasionally like to remind them, as a reference point, that the player AC is ~10m tall

everything on Rubicon is huge

[grave jolt]

https://youtu.be/1u6Q0Sgy4Eg?si=tk3n0jFIjZDa1Xe2 nice.

I did something like this but with G5 Iguazu, had a Lil headcanon that G5 was the main character in that run, 621 just never made it to Rubicon.
Out-lives the RedGuns, becomes a Raven, became the liberator of Rubicon, etc etc

[distant forge]

my fav fun factoid about ac6 is that like

if you port the models into elden ring, they are actually that big

its to human scale

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/DTyAYpHhIH0?si=YlDV84U4d7wKPo42

[patent oyster]

uhhh pick a song thats 2 minutes 30 seconds long

[wooden nimbus]

You have asked me literally the hardest part of doing my own clips lol

Dealer's choice if I don't get back to you in a timely manner

[wooden nimbus]

@scarlet pagoda I summon the master of noise for aid, pray he yet lives

[scarlet pagoda]

I AM ARRIVED

[wooden nimbus]

Something as close to 2:30 in length as we can get that fits a mech duel

I am unable to think of anything

The mechs are fast

Funny machine gun missile man is involved

As I'm sure you understand my problem was "Jesus Christ everything I listen to is much too long"

[small stone]

https://www.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/s/jJmTET6nLk

[patent oyster]

You have 2 weeks, no rush

[wooden nimbus]

Cool cool lemme know if you have any ideas too

[pure quiver]

God I can't wait to get my hands on AC6 kits

Because this one was a blast to work on

[waxen nest]

white glint

🥺

[patent oyster]

you're up on the 4th of october btw

[polar osprey]

Yippeeeee

[radiant birch]

Are you still taking submissions Inhibit

[glad sierra]

Beat the wallclimber 3 times, but my score remains the same. I’m doin something wrong. On the other hand, hi ||Rusty||. Can’t wait to see why everyone hypes you up

[patent oyster]

Yes

[deft bridge]

https://thefifthmatt.com/ac6-rank-calculator this is a useful tool for that

[glad sierra]

Preesh

[serene kettle]

yeah generally rankings go Objectives/Time/Expenses, in order of priority

wallclimber in particular is one of the missions where you get bonus pay for every kill so it can be worth it to spend a few extra seconds cleaning up trash mobs, depending on your route

and if you're rank hunting, I assume you probably know this but just doing due diligence, you can't use any checkpoints or your rank is capped at A

actually maybe lower? I haven't done testing on this. You can't get an S-rank without having done the mission from the beginning, though.

[wooden nimbus]

Current idea: "The Red Comet of Loum" is 2:29 and is also a funny reference to a different big red guy

I tried doing a fight or two in TEMPEST PROTOCOL with it on loop in the background and it felt good

[patent oyster]

Hell yeah

[patent oyster]

As long as my channel is active, ill keep the series going

(Until i run out of ACs to use)

[languid sand]

By god the concept art is sexy

[radiant birch]

cool cool--i'll have to look at some of my builds and see which ones i might want to submit

[wooden nimbus]

I see a new nightfall bullying episode 👀

I grow more excited about the idea of someone flying my machine by the day lol

That thing is speedy damn

[eager vector]

Nier ost so goated

[wooden nimbus]

Indeed

[patent oyster]

Playing LW melee again for this series reminded me of how damn fun LW melee can be

[glad sierra]

Hey, so quick question, and please lemme know if the answer is a spoiler. Are there any consequences to going back and ||killing Little Ziyi in that mission where first meet her? I kinda just went back to see if i even could.||

[serene kettle]

Things you do in replay mission mode will not impact the plot of your current playthrough

[glad sierra]

ok, swag. good to know. thank you

[eager vector]

What loadouts should I use on a tank-only playthrough

I did laser lance and pilebunker RJ for my first playthrough, and haldeman+LCS lamm quad for my second

[modern hornet]

Depends, do you want to be a wheelchair, a fighter jet, or a rolling fortress?

[eager vector]

I’m gonna be swapping between different tanks depending on the situation

[polar osprey]

use something that benefits from the fact that stopping to fire a weapon is no longer a problem

[modern hornet]

The Fortaleza and Bornemissza legs have relatively identical movement characteristics and ground-centric playstyles - one's just a lot lighter and much faster while the other is for when you just want to be a roving fortress that bulldozes literally everything in your path. Ploat Legs love taking advantage of verticality thanks to their above average ability to stay in the air, so would definitely recommend Grenades and similar high-explosive ordnance with that one.

Having tactical eurobeats playing the background is not mandatory, but could help you get in the mood to drift and swerve your way to victory.

[eager vector]

Do you generally pair your grenade launchers with stagger builders or stagger punishers?

[modern hornet]

Depends on the exact loadout, I think. I've admittedly never used grenades too much, myself, but I have seen vids of them being used for both functions, particularly the Earshot grenade cannon and Morley spread bazooka.

Their accuracy is definitely more consistent if you abuse verticality, though. A grounded enemy is a lot easier to hit with grenades thanks to the splash damage than an airborne one.

[radiant birch]

yeah, earshot shots from above are nasty

though i think their ammo is a bit limited/expensive for PVE to rely on consistently

overall though i'd agree with Freyja, find a back weapon that you like and abuse the fact that you can fire it on the move

[modern hornet]

Don't even need to limit yourself there. Tank treads can fire any Firing Stance weapon (Bazookas, Grenades, Laser Cannons, charged Linear Rifles, etc) on the move

[wooden nimbus]

Imagine if you could have four flamethrowers

[modern hornet]

Even just a single BAD COOK is enough to, well, cook your way through just about anything you could encounter on Rubicon.

[wooden nimbus]

True

I just like overkill

[modern hornet]

There is no overkill. There is only "open fire" and "reload"

[wooden nimbus]

I use one to mimic a fusion collider on my "definitely not a tau battlesuit"

Sadly there's not a way to do the funny cloak or we'd be ghostkeel gaming

[radiant birch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEuhB10YhvY

holy shit

[wooden nimbus]

Holy shit

[radiant birch]

okay @patent oyster i've got two builds i want to offer up, presented in order of the interest i have in seeing you play them

first build: ULTRAVIOLET. laser-centric, one of the results of my experimenting to see if i could build an AC not reliant on the stagger > punish loop (although it absolutely can stagger thanks to the RJ kick and assault armor)

second build: VECTOR. much more conventional, i think the combat loop is pretty obvious just from looking at the loadout, but it's good solid fun. i took out Iguazu + Volta in this version of the build

[patent oyster]

Ill give em a try!

[patent oyster]

This one is pretty similar to the zimmlance i featured in episode 11

[radiant birch]

Yeah I'm not surprised, it's a pretty straightforward strat

[radiant birch]

ULTRAVIOLET is the one i'd be more interested in anyway. i only tossed VECTOR in because i noticed it while looking through my builds and tweaking UV's paintjobs

[river junco]

GUH

I JUST SAW THE COOLEST VERSION OF THE RUSTY FIGHT IMAGINEABLE

https://youtu.be/7LdaunFq-mk?si=67k50PHTVpqbucuy

[wooden nimbus]

That's very cool

Though it makes me wish there was an ACVD movement mod ngl

I miss ACV/D so much

I don't know how they would detect you being next to a wall though

[serene kettle]

Probably wouldn't be that hard. the animations for walljumping might be more work though

I don't really see what's so NEXT-like about the movement here though, it all seems basically in line with AC6's normal movement (aside from the infinite energy, which is also normal for this mission)

the borderless is very cool though. It always seemed a little like robbery that you get this awesome fight with infinite energy and flight and you're stuck in a tiny box on a mostly flat open area

[wooden nimbus]

I thought I noticed some reduced recovery times and larger cancel windows on the melee but I might be overthinking.

[serene kettle]

yeah there might be some frame differences, but I mean that it looks fundamentally like an AC6 fight and not the insane bullshit NEXTs do

[river junco]

that person isn't using the mod to it's fullest extent

you can like

chaindash and shit

and they just aren't

[wooden nimbus]

I have learned that people use the stationary bubble form of the shield

I have also made a fun video of a fight I had with the person who did it

I have literally never seen it in action before and you can see I have no idea what I'm dealing with

(He is compiling and compressing)

[cursive agate]

I guess players use it like D2 Titan barricade, splitting up an open area into smaller chunks of cover.

[river junco]

I just like this specific video's accidental choregraphy of like

genuinely winning because they were faster than rusty

oh sorry i was still scrolled up

ALSO

can anyone tell me what the song in that video is???

it feels different from normal steel haze

[wooden nimbus]

OST Disk 3 version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Giz3kfQZzxU

[wooden nimbus]

I def woulda been fighting my own blood pressure in that fight if I was Rusty yeah

[river junco]

thanku v much i was desperately trying to find it

i think this is my fav version of the song

[wooden nimbus]

I have another video ready dang

Two close fights in one night

[eager vector]

this would be cooler if the play wasn’t so passive

[patent oyster]

The issue with that fight is if you're too aggressive, steel haze ortus goes down too quickly

Honestly this applies to most AC fights

If you wanna actually let the dialogue play out and make a cinematic video, you have to intentionally play worse

[polar osprey]

Rusty is so fucking cool

[wooden nimbus]

It's also really hard to find music for a 1:20 video, felt

I wish there was more opportunities for multiple phases, they give us three repair kits for a reason

[cursive agate]

burst damage potential really affects how long fights last too

[wooden nimbus]

Yeah

One of the things I like about tempest protocol is that it doesn't really have a "delete AP" button

You can combo into a lot of damage but I'm pretty much required to have longer fights with it

[patent oyster]

Thats why i include the intro cutscene for defend the spaceport lol

[wooden nimbus]

I like that PVP fights are best of 3 because I can easily get a 3+ minute video if we go 2-1

Double points if both of us are using spectacle builds instead of Stagger into OHKO stuff

Also having the full Xylem as a map would be cool for like a larger team mode fight with control points to hold or something similar

[river junco]

Also fun fact; appearently despite the xylem’s city section being collision meshed for Rusty’s fight, it isn’t for Walter’s

[polar osprey]

huh...

[river junco]

I think it’s because it’s a different model since it has so much shit happen during that fight + they needed to add the engine blocks as targetables

Also

I’ve never thought about it before but uh

I know Rubicon is REALLY big but…. The xylem crashing back down from orbit seems like it would

Be bad

For the world

[cursive agate]

Crashing into dry land would probably resemble gundam, into the water might flood some areas for a bit.

[languid sand]

Rip rubistraulia

[south oracle]

I heard that we are getting a major update soon?

[cursive agate]

Rumors about an accidental tweet that mentioned an update.

[south oracle]

well, hopes it's real

[languid sand]

It would be nice

[radiant birch]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been84years-titanic-rose-dawson-gif-5372593

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/T2195xhvEo8?si=ht8OXtGp4YGUXYGB

[wooden nimbus]

mood

[eager vector]

I’ve cleared up to the C spider on bornemisszas and so far I’m not loving my tanks only run. Here’s to hoping the wheelchair treats me better

[patent oyster]

Are you counting boat legs as tank legs

[eager vector]

Yeah I’m very excited to get to those

I wanna be in the air

[patent oyster]

The intern managing the bandai namco game accounts messed up big time

[wooden nimbus]

What the hec

[radiant birch]

Damn AC6 II is really going in a different direction than I expected

[wooden nimbus]

To be fair, and I only say this because I've got no idea what the other thing is actually referencing and I just see anime characters, if AC added Persona style anime VN segments between missions I wouldn't be offended by it

Let me talk to different faction people to influence how the plot goes damn

[serene kettle]

I think that would actually seriously hurt the vibe AC is going for. Not showing you actual people is part of the point, the sense of isolation is very deliberate. You still get segments of dialogue as the plot unfolds, but it's always through unseen messengers.

[keen hedge]

Doesn't Daemon x Machina do exactly that

[wooden nimbus]

Yeah, kind of. DXM2 might gimme a bit of that

I just like the idea of interacting with people with a medium other than combat tbh

[radiant birch]

You could still have the VN sections with faceless voices

It'd basically be like if AC6's between-mission cutscenes were interactable

Or even like, have a selection of replies to a recorded message. Idk

[patent oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143986263519670343/1286155401745793065/990484FD-54AE-44D7-93BB-E6FBD0840EE7.mov?ex=66ece10f&is=66eb8f8f&hm=a8933950201f386c7e9fca4d8a5bef829151964b90ef903b20a63ad218bf26df&

[serene kettle]

Huh. I don’t think I’ve heard this version of Stain

[cursive agate]

https://www.bandainamcoent.com/news/armored-core-vi-fires-of-rubicon-patch-notes-v-1-07
Another balance patch for Armored Core 6 (v1.0.7)

Many buffs to parts/weapons, and a pretty big hike to Melee Spec on arms (less of a gulf between Basho, and all other arms)

There's been nerfs to especially meta parts in some cases, but many buffs to make other options more appealing too.

[radiant birch]

best change already 😛

the increase to emptying of the charge gauge on the laser shotgun + handgun is an interesting change. i wonder if that'll fix the issue i've had with the laser handguns where rapid-firing them on maxed energy weapon spec tended to accidentally fire a charged shot

[radiant birch]

okay, i tested it bc i was curious, and while it is still annoyingly easy to accidentally fire a charge shot using the laser handguns on the VE-20B, it is much less likely to happen while repeatedly tapping the fire button. so that's neat!

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/hsZq7uLH6Jw?si=Q-C5AT_7K1vDku7N

@wooden nimbus

[polar osprey]

Lmao

[wet shard]

old king's ideology really can be summed up as "wouldn't it be funny"

[wooden nimbus]

It is extremely fun to watch my mech get piloted

You really do have to hold back to make that take more than a minute though lol

[loud peak]

Isn't he more of a Happy Chaos kinda guy

Wiping things out for a clean slate

[wooden nimbus]

He's kind of "what if Pixy was worse"

But yeah he's going to reset everything and revel in it

[polar osprey]

ONE HUNDRED MILLION DEAD. DONE

[surreal vine]

Not gonna lie I could hear Old King's speech during the "shoot down the interceptor fleet" mission

[wooden nimbus]

Yeah

[radiant birch]

question, does anybody know what the timing is for burst impact to fade into accumulated impact?

[river junco]

I believe its variably determined by your buuuuuild?

[patent oyster]

Depends on the weapon

[river junco]

Oh it’s weapon dependent? That makes sense

[radiant birch]

dangit

i mean that makes sense but also dangit

side note, when i have time i need to look closer at how the Yaba stacks up against other generators now

because i did not realize how much EN it gave you back after redlining

[patent oyster]

nacht legs REALLY got gutted goddamn\

[patent oyster]

yaba is like aorta if it was good

been a fan of it for a while now

[polar osprey]

oh no

i need to check my build and see how it feels now

[patent oyster]

kasuar being a straight upgrade for my lw jamming is surreal

[polar osprey]

wow

Nacht got obliterated huh

[patent oyster]

With this update, steel haze ortus is finally better than steel haze

Lore accurate update lol

[polar osprey]

lore accurate Steel Haze Ortus...

feels like my dodges got impacted

hmmm

gonna need to re-tune Ruber i suppose

feels like the etsujin do more damage

[patent oyster]

Holy SHIT SPRING CHICKEN HAS MORE STABILITY THAN MIND BETA

[polar osprey]

neat

might actually be worth it to swap back to spring chicken from mind beta

mind beta has like slightly better jump distance and a mild amount more energy defence, as well as weighing about 5k less

[patent oyster]

oml steel haze has 8.4k ap now

[polar osprey]

i'm gonna need to do some tests

[patent oyster]

HAHAHHAHAHAHA

1.49k stability as well

[polar osprey]

hmmm

i think maybe the less weight with faster boost is nicer

gonna try fluegel with the spring chicken to see how it feels

might keep mind beta

[river junco]

It’s so funny that Ortus is just kinda

Mid

[polar osprey]

after testing i'm also going to just keep to the 4 missiles instead of going with the 6 ones

Ruber just plays better with them

[river junco]

When in lore its supposed to be this like, sick ass ultramech

[wooden nimbus]

Wait did the update happen?

[patent oyster]

yeah

[wooden nimbus]

:O

Time to see if I got cooked or not

[polar osprey]

yeah i think i'll stay with mind beta

this just feels too sluggish

with Mind beta, Ruber sits at the threshold of Fluegels ideal weight

yeah i think Ruber is still good as it was which is a relief

[wooden nimbus]

Shao Wei got increased heat buildup but reduced recoil, so shorter bursts but more accurate overall?

[patent oyster]

a single charged curtis hit fills 70-75% of steel haze's ACS bar

Its so over

[wooden nimbus]

Lot of missile lock time reductions, nice

[polar osprey]

yeah doesn't look like Ruber really needed any adjustments aside from probably switching ocellus for WLT

that close range is juicy

[wooden nimbus]

Yeah if you stay close Ocellus is nasty

[polar osprey]

but WLT just has better stats on everything else to the point that it just feels more comfortable to use

also helps with getting the missiles out faster

[wooden nimbus]

All in all missiles look like they ate good

[patent oyster]

Ocellus got nerfed

Close range used to be 90

[polar osprey]

ahhh

[patent oyster]

Its missile lock stats have also been gutted

[polar osprey]

yeah

[patent oyster]

Meanwhile abbot and talbot are back

[polar osprey]

i was wondering why the fuck i was using it on Ruber

[patent oyster]

Etsujins have also been nerfed

[polar osprey]

really?

[patent oyster]

Yeah

[polar osprey]

by a lot or?

[wooden nimbus]

Talbot buff let's goooooo

[polar osprey]

i think Talbot might be the best option for Ruber now

[polar osprey]

great close range, good mid range, good stats for missile lock

[patent oyster]

Meanwhile, ducketts got buffed

[polar osprey]

not a massive nerf

[wooden nimbus]

BOOSTER “BUERZEL/21D”: decreased QB EN Consumption
"We have buffed it by making it less recognizable"

[polar osprey]

unless the Chang Chens got super buffed i think i'll stay on Etsujin

[river junco]

The pistols getting buffed is always nice

[polar osprey]

i don't like Attache and i tried out ludlows and they just don't work as good with Ruber

[patent oyster]

All arms got a melee spec buff iirc

[wooden nimbus]

I miss OG Buerzel

[patent oyster]

And lance + laser blade got buffed

[polar osprey]

did Chang Chen get any kind of buff?

[patent oyster]

Yes

Ludlows also got a slight buff

[polar osprey]

how big is the Chang Chen buff

[wooden nimbus]

Projectile speed and recoil on the Changs so it might hit stuff better

Plasma thrower nerf, love to see it

[polar osprey]

ok the Chang Chens feel quite good now with ruber

might actually be a better fit than Etsujin now

hmmm

Etsujin are still quite good

[wooden nimbus]

Okay so whatever they did to Shao Wei I actually get two more rounds out of firing it per burst

[patent oyster]

Huh gridwalker feels better

[wooden nimbus]

Tempest Protocol feels almost unchanged

[polar osprey]

trying out Etsujins and Chang Chens on Freud and i think Etsujins might still be the better fit

yeaaaah i think i'm going to stick with Etsujin

[wooden nimbus]

I might swap my booster depending on things

[polar osprey]

Ruber is sitting in the perfect sweet spot for Fluegel so i think it'll be fine to keep things the same

[wooden nimbus]

There are definitely things that look like they make my numbers more blue but also feel wrong in play though

[polar osprey]

yeah

chang chen got buff, etsujin got nerf, but etsujin still feels better for the build

spring chicken is statistically just superior to mind beta, but i have to sacrifice that snappy speediness that i like

stuff like this is why it's important to try shit out

[wooden nimbus]

I should try chicken

[polar osprey]

do it

[wooden nimbus]

So far purely in test AC fights Chunky Tempest (Spring Chicken Legs and Melander C3 Arms) feels like it's pretty solid

It also looks fucking crisp

[polar osprey]

does look hella crisp

[wooden nimbus]

Look at his shoes

[polar osprey]

got them jays

[wooden nimbus]

I'll do a Nightfall test since we like bullying there

Oh I definitely need to adjust boosters to the new weight

[radiant birch]

i threw together a new build while looking at some of the updated stats this morning

[polar osprey]

looks fun

[radiant birch]

i don't know how good it is overall but there's something entertaining about managing to get 10.6k AP on 59k weight

it did at least shred Freud in the arena, which is my version of bullying Nightfall to test new builds

[wooden nimbus]

Testing says I miss my mobility more than I like my big shoes

[radiant birch]

gotta go fast

it's important

[polar osprey]

yeah that was my problem also

fast better than some upgraded stats

[wooden nimbus]

I do wanna try the melander c3 arms on the default tempest tho

I can't tell if Nightfall has hands now or what

I think he just knows how to use his songbirds now

If they quietly made the AI more aggressive I'll be happy

It feels it but I might just be a bit slow on reflex because eepy

[serene kettle]

I remember Nightfall's Songbirds being terrifyingly accurate when I first fought them, before I got gud

[wooden nimbus]

I don't remember getting tagged by them this much (still won but)

[patent oyster]

Shade eye got buffed

[radiant birch]

oops oops new build oops

tweaked the frame from upthread to be a little more of a generalist and less aggressively focused on dueling

still got the combo of speed and staying power

the scudder + duckett combo feels really nice. fighting Freud i had a nice loop of empty scudder > empty duckett while scudder reloads > empty scudder into a now probably staggered LOCKSMITH

duckett's got a real nice kick now

[patent oyster]

This is basically "patch notes: the build"

[radiant birch]

well i did give it a serial number of RR107 in honor of patch 1.07, so that fits well

[cursive agate]

I'm quite sure Nightfall uses Abbot FCS, which did get buffed (a little) in the patch.

FCS “FC-006 ABBOT”
increased Close-Range Assist / Medium-Range Assist

[patent oyster]

Itll be interesting to face upgraded nightfall

[wooden nimbus]

excellent, Nightfall deserves to have hands

[patent oyster]

nah id win

[eager vector]

idk yall nightfall seems the same to me https://youtu.be/gHpWW6WrSIw?si=394IOBSEk6M8FMb7

[cursive agate]

It seems you were getting caught in endlag, or windup of other animations.

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/ntit0cddD1Y?si=r85HmoX7rkWv4mD4

im finally free from this purgatory of my own making

[wooden nimbus]

Lmao

[patent oyster]

that intro sequence and the intermissions at 1:17 and 2:48 took so long

[wooden nimbus]

I bet

In other news the TP/MkII STORM CHASER will be tested a bit more soon, prototypes have won some ranked fights but I wanna adjust it more after work/post-work Friday in California shenanigans

Tldr "what if tempest protocol was faster, blue, and had a laser blade"

[radiant birch]

I like the sound of this

I still gotta check out the laser blade. It got increased overall cooling, right?

Maybe wanna build something around it, or replace the pulse blade on CELESTIAL VISITOR

[wooden nimbus]

I'm gonna probably use alba core (tuna) and either nacht or the light RJ

Those ones have been handy so far

But I'm tweaking the head and arms still

With Chang Chen being lower recoil I'm taking that

[scarlet pagoda]

Any update to quads or snail parts ?

[scarlet pagoda]

TODAY IS FRIDAY IN CALIFORNIA

[wooden nimbus]

Yes you

Also I didn't recall seeing changes to them in 1.07

TETRAPOD “LAMMERGEIER/42F”

・decreased Attitude Stability

・Reduced max movement speed while hovering

TANK “EL-TL-11 FORTALEZA”

・increased AP / AB Thrust

I see these

[scarlet pagoda]

So

My build got completely missed lol

I miss heavy bipeds

[radiant birch]

Do you mean snail parts as in V.II?

Bc iirc the head got buffed and the legs got nerfed

HEAD “VE-44A” - increased Attitude Stability / System Recovery
BIPEDAL “VE-42A” - decreased AP / Anti-Kinetic Defense / Anti-Energy Defense / Anti-Explosive Defense

[cursive agate]

Toned down the v1.05 nerf, still takes a lot (676 -> 630).

[radiant birch]

okay i'm late to the party but this absolutely fucks, stellar job Inhibit

[patent oyster]

https://youtube.com/shorts/nW2zE-WcfSc?feature=share

[wooden nimbus]

Stormchaser is Jojo Posing

[radiant birch]

"KONO RAVEN DA!!!"

[wooden nimbus]

Don't do that I'm going to make that the voice of my pilot in my head now

Lmao

I was gonna chang chen but the laser shotgun is just

I love it

[radiant birch]

laser shotguns rock yeah

getting an AOE projectile on a charged shot is just

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/awkyZCRGDno?si=G6WuwxMDdTF8qnZU

[wooden nimbus]

I love this meme

You can see the exact second my one brain cell kicks in during this video.

[radiant birch]

i have to hand it to your opponent, that was a pretty impressive reversal in the first round. i thought you had them for sure.

[wooden nimbus]

Yeah it completely sent me into a panic

They did super good

Like I spent 80% of round 2 not sure what to do

Sometimes I wish you could send a "hey you were really fun" in ranked

[radiant birch]

it would be nice

[patent oyster]

I always try to add my opponent on stream if i had a good match with them

[wooden nimbus]

I can dig it

[south oracle]

oh, patch

[radiant birch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJVmHKHxKOY'

useful overview

sounds like there were a couple patch note mistranslations; the Shao-Wei actually got buffed instead of nerfed, and vice versa for the VP-61PS shield

[cursive agate]

Very good to hear, was quite baffled by what the patch notes mentioned at points.

[patent oyster]

Am cooking again

[patent oyster]

https://fixupx.com/Lia_is_shy/status/1838496375455256787

[radiant birch]

lanky boi

does the explosive thrower scale with melee specialization?

[patent oyster]

It does not

Basho is just purely there for AP and a low EN+weight load

(And laser blade ofc)

[patent oyster]

that build is adapted from the pink and white AC i did up for a friend and posted here a while back

^

Might go back and redo the decals

[radiant birch]

tinkering around with a new PVP build

did a couple test matches in ranked, got completely slaughtered by a duckett + oscillator build in my first match but won handily against a dual duckett + laser sword build in my second match

(albeit i almost lost the first round of the latter bc i thought i had the shotgun equipped when i actually had moonlight on)

the laser shotgun is kinda wild. charges super quick on the VE-20C, and cools so fast that i had a couple moments of "oops, forgot to swap to Moonlight... oh, it's already done cooling off, awesome"

[patent oyster]

The rest of disc 3 is officially available

[polar osprey]

nice

[patent oyster]

https://youtu.be/XdyFtwSCcx4?si=eqLUPnwkIFiBhjJn

[radiant birch]

i have made it all pretty

and given it a name: PERIHELION

also known as AAC (Asshole Armored Core)

[radiant birch]

your commitment to the jammer build is inspiring, and this is glorious to watch

[eager vector]

gorgeous build

[radiant birch]

build projects still in the back pocket:

• see if i can get a build to work around the Harris + Javelin Alpha combo
• see if i can make a build around the Coral rifle (esp. with the buffs in the last patch)
• mess around with the KRSV changes in PVP

[modern whale]

Well, I'm going all in on Ibis again, just fine-tuning a stun needle build to fuck it up nice and proper

[eager vector]

Have you seen somebody lance+pb it

[modern whale]

haven't looked at many videos, I probably will (don't worry it hasn't taken me months to beat Ibis I just got sidetracked with other games for a couple months)

[eager vector]

Wanna watch mine? I find it deeply satisfying

https://youtu.be/LyHbcvdVBS0?si=Buq4NXsMmmjqSKGf

[modern whale]

Oh hell yeah 🙏

No kidding it's satisfying as hell oml

Lance/pb definitely helps cover the two's individual shortcomings holy hell

[radiant birch]

watching Duckett vs Duckett PVP videos is weirdly entrancing

it really is like watching some kind of high-speed dance

[modern whale]

Also

is it bad of me to practice new weapon tricks like lance/pb switching on the Dafeng pilot?

I S-ranked him ages ago, I just do it for his dialogue at this point

[deft bridge]

no, but you will regret your words and actions when punished consort dafeng pilot returns in the DLC

[eager vector]

any ideas for a novel and fun PvE loadout I should try?

So far I’ve done

1. lance+pb+zimm
2. haldies+LCS
3. v20b LH+auroras
4. missile boat

I’ve used 760PR a lot as well

I’ve struggled with coming up with loadouts that need a heavy frame to work and that feel good for me to use- I’ve p much only used mid to lightweight frames, other than my first spring chicken build

[radiant birch]

for your consideration

i haven't fully tested this build in PVE but i've wiped Freud with it in the arena so it should be okay

[eager vector]

I’ve never felt like shields have clicked for me

[radiant birch]

i find the key for shields is to use them with a left arm weapon that takes a while to reload, or that you use situationally

[eager vector]

Gotcha. what’s the game plan with this?

[radiant birch]

largely, pepper the opponent(s) with the LR and missiles until ACS break, then punish with bazooka. shield covers you while you're not firing the bazooka

but don't be afraid to take potshots with the bazooka either, they can be quite rewarding if you get the timing right

and the benefit of the quad legs is that you can fire charged LR shots and bazooka shots without stopping

the Harris has good DHA too so it's your backup punish if the opponent staggers while the bazooka's reloading

[stone jolt]

Anybody still playing this or getting a second wind for it?

Hi. New.

AC artist and designer. Ask me what I mean.

[waxen nest]

Hello!

[radiant birch]

there's a few of us still sticking around, yeah

[eager vector]

Post your ACs!

[polar osprey]

send it

[wooden nimbus]

I can take some screens of Tempest Protocol later but there's some up in the chat media somewhere

But yeah show us ya robot

I am mostly just hoping the rumor mill about a new parts update is coming because please please please

[polar osprey]

more AC content

now

[wooden nimbus]

Right

[stone jolt]

Starting off with the basics, A friend of mine asked me why I didn't have a Heavyarms. I told him that everyone does that. Online, everybody is using a mockup.of Heavyarms or Eva Unit 01.

Then I gave in.

[eager vector]

hell yeah fantastic

[stone jolt]

These are a pair of my Star Wars inspired ones (I have many). I will try to get better shots of some fine details later, but there are decals of aurebesh text all over.

The T-65 x-wing canopy and the TIE-Interceptor viewport both have little dudes in them, but the TIE viewport has more detail no one will ever see than I have put into a signal decal.

I decalled up my Loader 4 and changed the weapons and internals. I accidentally then saved over it, but I have most of the work done, such as making the decals.

I'll update later as I put them back.

[wooden nimbus]

These are so cool

[stone jolt]

Inspired by the Death Egg 1 from Sonic the Hedgehog. The garage is not the best place to photograph some of the details on this one.

Inspired by a show I watched when I was little and a show that some of clients often watch now. I work with developmentally disabled adults.

In team matches, people have learned to fear this one. They either gang up or stay out of its way. Crazy that the international version of the game doesn't offer Japanese text support for its image editor. I had to fake it so hard.

I usually use the data field to make note of things like what it's for and when you can first built it (ie. "Hvy PVP, Post NG++ Cel240")

This one is titled "PeaceNeverAnOption" and the data field just reads "SoUHaveChosenDeath"

[stone jolt]

Thanks, man. Doin my best. This is all I have on my phone right now. Be back later.

[stone jolt]

Thanks.

[wooden nimbus]

Thomas the tank mech