Armored Core General! | Pilot NET | Page 14

soft ermine Jan 25, 2024, 6:03 PM

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the one with the laser

eager vector Jan 25, 2024, 6:03 PM

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nepenthes?

polar osprey Jan 25, 2024, 6:03 PM

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OCELLUS specifically

radiant birch Jan 25, 2024, 6:03 PM

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i like the pulse buckler that blocks like 95% of incoming damage if you time it right

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tricky, but satisfying if you pull it off

soft ermine Jan 25, 2024, 6:04 PM

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theres a big shield that what you do is just use it then get into a corner as you drop down towrds the laser defenses

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and if you do it right it blocks most of it

radiant birch Jan 25, 2024, 6:07 PM

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apparently in PVP dual zim builds will use a shield to mitigate damage during their downtime

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or at least so Chrightt said in his last video. he's deeper into the PVP scene than me so i trust him 😛

polar osprey Jan 25, 2024, 6:10 PM

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we ball

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Now i just need to S-rank all the missions and i'll have 100% my second game on steam

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My second fromsoft game too

eager vector Jan 25, 2024, 6:30 PM

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I still say you shouldn’t bother unless doing that is fun

polar osprey Jan 25, 2024, 6:31 PM

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probably true

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i'm not going to like

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try to speedrun it

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i'm going to just, do it slowly

frank pivot Jan 25, 2024, 10:03 PM

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radiant birch or at least so Chrightt said in his last video. he's deeper into the PVP scene ...

Risa and 432 are both top 10 players that do that

frank pivot Jan 26, 2024, 3:27 AM

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chrighht is better than me at pvp too fwiw, i know i posted like 5.5 hours ago but this is a continuation of my last post haha

frank pivot Jan 26, 2024, 5:42 PM

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Okay so we have SSC and HA mechs in AC6

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When is Horus

radiant birch Jan 26, 2024, 5:46 PM

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Armored Core really needs a gun that isn't a gun

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 5:55 PM

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Coral and Kojima weapons are probably the least "normal" weapons in the series in terms of payload tbh

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it's just not a series that wants to be too magical for the most part. Not hard sci-fi, but definitely trying to maintain the feel of it

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 6:15 PM

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how do NEXT's work in AC4A

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 6:34 PM

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trying out AC4A so i made a new emblem

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having jump and boost be the same button is kind of annoying

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going to take a while to get used to the control scheme too

eager vector Jan 26, 2024, 6:40 PM

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You should try the AC3 controls lmao

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AC1-3 I should say

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 6:40 PM

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AC6 has the weapons on the bumpers, buttons for boost and jumpt and all that

eager vector Jan 26, 2024, 6:41 PM

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I usually remap AC4 some

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 6:41 PM

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AC4A, instead of giving you four buttons to use for weapons, gives you two weapon buttons and two buttons to switch between shoulder and handheld

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which i don't think makes a lot of sense frankly

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when you could just, have four buttons for the guns???

eager vector Jan 26, 2024, 6:43 PM

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it makes more sense if you look at it as a slow evolution from the old pre-analog stick control scheme

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 6:44 PM

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i figured it was something related to iterative game design

soft ermine Jan 26, 2024, 6:44 PM

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fromsoft as a devloper is known for aweful controls

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 6:44 PM

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either way it's kinda janky

eager vector Jan 26, 2024, 6:44 PM

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yes

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 6:44 PM

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i switched using guns to the triggers and changed weapons change buttons to the bumpers

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AC4A seems to have a lot more stuff to customize

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got like 4 different types of boosters and stabilizers

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also i've named my new AC Dash Pinion

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ok no sensitivity adjustment kinda sucks ngl

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going to be kinda miserable keeping enemies in sight

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yeah this is significantly more difficult than AC6 just because of the controls

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cleared the first collared order match but the second one is obliterating me

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lmao

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started a mission and tried to figure out how to reload my guns

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immediately purged both of them

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nice

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:13 PM

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I never really vibed with AC4A's gameplay tbh

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:13 PM

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there is way many buttons you need to press at once

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:13 PM

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it's playable, it's just fast to a level that feels so, so twitchy

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:14 PM

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holding down shoot buttons, boosting and trying to move the camera all at once is

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a bit of a trial

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:14 PM

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Soundtrack rules though

soft ermine Jan 26, 2024, 7:14 PM

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NEXT's dont look fun to me

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:15 PM

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All that I see
Ooh, I'm scary``` truly lyrics for the ages

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Of course I'm one of those insane AC 1-3 fans so ymmv

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though even I'll fully admit that control scheme was godawful

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:18 PM

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this game could have MASSIVELY benefited from stick sensitivity options or a hard fucking lock on

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this shit goes so fucking fast and it takes me like 5 seconds to turn

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also why the hell does the camera turn speed go super fast when you boost

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big fan of overed boost though

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i would love to have a modern AC game a la AC6 but with some of the superspeed fuckshit from this game

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quasi copper Jan 26, 2024, 7:37 PM

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polar osprey cleared the first collared order match but the second one is obliterating me

IT’S HER

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yeah for some reason the second Order Match is outrageous

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:37 PM

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Mrs.Theresia

quasi copper Jan 26, 2024, 7:37 PM

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She’s a demon

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:37 PM

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literally just no-diffed me multiple times

quasi copper Jan 26, 2024, 7:37 PM

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Theresia is what old missile boat ACs were like

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Ie WAY WORSE

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You just can’t Itano Circus people in AC6 like you used to be able to with RMs, the support missile arms, and 2x24 vert racks

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:39 PM

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ok tried the updated Dash Pinion on her and she fucking annihilated me once more

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it wasn't even close

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oh

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huh

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my missions changed, i had one from Omer that isn't there now?

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ok so this mission needs me not to shoot as much

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or well, more carefully at least

quasi copper Jan 26, 2024, 7:43 PM

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Oh, thing worth knowing about AC4A

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Each mission you do changes the missions available to you next; additionally if you do 3 in a row from one provider you’ll unlock their parts catalogue

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:44 PM

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Yeah AC6 spells out decision points

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:44 PM

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quasi copper Each mission you do changes the missions available to you next; additionally if ...

good to know

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:44 PM

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Previous games are less kind in this regard, though some are obvious anyway

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:44 PM

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i was wanting some more parts

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:45 PM

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(defend place and attack place are generally going to be mutually exclusive, you know?)

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:46 PM

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i figure yeah

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i did see while looking up some stuff that apparently the most efficient route to unlocking all items in the game is in like 14 missions or something like that

quasi copper Jan 26, 2024, 7:47 PM

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Oh yeah fair thing to point out: AC4A locks you into the bad ending first time ‘round and then rolls out new missions on the 2nd playthrough for the Maybe Good Ending

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There’s an added mission on the 3rd playthrough for the Even Worse Route

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:47 PM

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it gets even worse?

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sign me up

quasi copper Jan 26, 2024, 7:48 PM

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Old King is your waifu now

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:48 PM

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also i gotta say, kinda like this games customization a lot

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so far at least

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there is a lot more options than in AC6

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and the whole thing with stabilizers is pretty cool

quasi copper Jan 26, 2024, 7:49 PM

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I liked the multiplicity of boosters, but Stabilizers was always a little too far for me

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Luckily you can just set them to Auto and the game will definitely for-sure get you standing upright 100% of the time :^)

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:50 PM

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i kinda like the stabilizers

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:50 PM

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AC6 simplified the mech construction a bit for sure

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:50 PM

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i don't mind sitting for ages customizing stuff so getting into nitty gritty details like that is fun

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:50 PM

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not to the point where it's boring now, but definitely simpler

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:50 PM

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yeah AC6 simplified a lot it seems

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which is not necessarily a bad thing

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since it also allowed them to streamline and improve stuff

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:51 PM

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It's a major way in which AC6 is a throwback to AC1

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:51 PM

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such as the controls

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so they are not gods awful

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:51 PM

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lol yeah as much as I love the old games, those controls are really something

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:52 PM

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genuinely just 💀 at having two whole buttons dedicated to switching weapons

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as if having the ability to just use the weapons on demand instead would take up more buttons

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:52 PM

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AC6 is actually simpler than AC1 in some ways tbh. FCS, for example, are all mostly the same outside of a couple of fairly specific stats

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whereas in AC1 your choice of FCS changed the size of the box in which you could maintain locks in, how many locks you could maintain, your maximum lock range...

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:53 PM

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if/when they end up making a AC7 i would be pretty happy if they brought back some of this stuff

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would love to see a modernized AC game with the complexity that some of the old games seem to have

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let me get into the nitty gritty of the mech building

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:54 PM

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Also, heads in AC6 are broadly similar. Like they have some variety in defensive stats but they all have the same functionality more or less

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whereas heads in AC1 might have varying radar performance, or a bio-sensor

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(Bio-sensor was a big deal for some missions, you couldn't lock onto biological targets without one)

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:55 PM

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i get why they simplified stuff and i think it works well in the game

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but fuck i really want this complexity in a modern game

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:55 PM

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oh yeah i'm not sure what Biosensors would even apply to in AC6. The coral mealworms I guess?

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:55 PM

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i love sitting for ages customizing stuff and it was already really fun AC6

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:56 PM

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serene kettle oh yeah i'm not sure what Biosensors would even apply to in AC6. The coral mealw...

we NEED Biosensors for those fucking mealworms

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how could Fromsoft rob us of this

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:58 PM

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AC1 heads also had varying levels of computer performance and mapping functions - some heads would let you check an area map that it'd fill out as you explored a zone, others wouldn't.

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Some would show you incoming missiles on the radar, others wouldn't

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that sort of thing

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 7:58 PM

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that does sound pretty interesting

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if nothing else i want Overed boost back

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i'm a fucking speed demon and i need my fix

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 7:58 PM

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I really loved the early AC games, they were super ambitious in a cool way

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 8:00 PM

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i need the speed boost injected directly into my veins

river junco Jan 26, 2024, 8:15 PM

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Yeah I like the weird detailed stuff the old ac games had

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Let me equip a really strong booster only on my left side

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And the specifcally tune my ACs turning to maximum

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 8:21 PM

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VANGUARD OVERED BOOSTER LETS GOOOOOO

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I FUCKING LOVE SPEED

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LET ME GO FAST

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 8:30 PM

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Oooh, you doing spirit of motherwill? Or just one of the handful of other times you can VOB in

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I don't actually remember what order AC4A missions go in lol

deft compass Jan 26, 2024, 8:36 PM

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So I haven’t played AC6 in like, a year. Any of y’all have advice on how to dip my toes back into the game?

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I know I’m not going to delete my save because god knows I don’t want to be road blocked by balteus or that fucking helicopter again

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 8:41 PM

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yeah doing Spirit of Motherwill rn

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what the hell is shooting all these missiles

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i keep my health absolutely annihilated by bursts of missiles

cursive agate Jan 26, 2024, 8:49 PM

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Motherwill has massive missile pods on the "runway" sections

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 8:49 PM

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also do i like, need to destroy every single gun on it to kill it

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cause it did not want to die

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briefing just said "shoot all the weapons to hurt it" but i did that and it did not die

cursive agate Jan 26, 2024, 8:50 PM

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Will need to wreck a good chunk of it to deal internal damage, melee melts it if you brought one.

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 8:50 PM

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do i just shoot the weapons or is there some other part of it for me to hit

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damn i can dual melee in this game

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sick

radiant birch Jan 26, 2024, 8:53 PM

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One thing I kinda wish they'd done different in AC6 is OS Tuning

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My understanding is that in earlier games it was a selective process where you couldn't get everything so you had to choose which aspects of your performance you wanted to boost

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So like, actual 'tuning' rather than the across-the-board power boost it is in AC6

radiant birch Jan 26, 2024, 8:57 PM

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deft compass So I haven’t played AC6 in like, a year. Any of y’all have advice on how to dip ...

Go back and replay old missions? Idk how far in you got, but that'll give you a way to shake off the rust in a low stakes environment while also getting extra cash if there are parts you still haven't picked up from the shop

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And you can pick and choose which missions to replay so you can skip the annoying ones

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 8:58 PM

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ok i was just

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focusing on the wrong stuff i guess?

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just needed to take out the missiles and the big guns

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did not need melee

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the shoulder missile launchers do premium damage

deft compass Jan 26, 2024, 9:08 PM

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radiant birch Go back and replay old missions? Idk how far in you got, but that'll give you a...

That’s…yeah I don’t know why my brain blipped over that

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 9:18 PM

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Gotta say i'm a big fan of my new Radioactive speed demon WMD

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Literally me

tough fable Jan 26, 2024, 9:36 PM

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frank pivot Okay so we have SSC and HA mechs in AC6

the closest would be stacking up on coral gear (horrors beyond comprehension), maybe slotting in the laser drones to represent the Hydra doing Hydra things.

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 9:40 PM

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polar osprey Gotta say i'm a big fan of my new Radioactive speed demon WMD

yeah AC4 mechs are more akin to very precise WMDs than something like a tank or even a jet

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 9:41 PM

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i am going to perform unspeakable acts of ultraviolence to keep this thing

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i NEED Overed Boost

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 9:41 PM

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the final boss in Verdict Day arrives to the battlefield in one, it's great

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 9:42 PM

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sounds sick

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lol, lmao

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they are trying to tell me to bring an ally

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pathetic

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 9:43 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXo1JPqHV8

YouTube

Sul 'Incasune

ACVD Final Mission: "Mechanized Memories"

Love this mission

▶ Play video

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 9:43 PM

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no lmao

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i'm going in alone

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 9:44 PM

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that's right, get that full payout

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though allies are fun just for the dialogue

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everyone loves May Greenfield

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 9:45 PM

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i'm already getting dogshit payout due to my ac getting smash to bits and spending all my ammo

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i do NOT need to share it with someone else

wooden nimbus Jan 26, 2024, 9:46 PM

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Remembering playing AC2 again

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 9:47 PM

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gods yeah i kinda do hate the lack of lock on and slow as fuck camera speed

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 9:49 PM

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yeah hardlock is totally new to AC6 - your ability to keep someone vaguely in your sights with high turn speed is a huge advantage in earlier games.

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 9:49 PM

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hitting anything is a godsdamned nightmare

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 9:49 PM

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You used to be able to literally run circles around slow mechs sometimes

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 9:49 PM

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got a turn speed of 1 rotation per 5 minutes

wooden nimbus Jan 26, 2024, 9:49 PM

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Yeah 4/fA in particular made speed a god stat

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Mind you that was an intended goal it is the speed demons generation

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 9:51 PM

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do love that

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but man if they didn't want to give me hardlock could i at least have a faster camera

radiant birch Jan 26, 2024, 9:51 PM

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Nyoom

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 10:01 PM

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Mrs.Theresia is a fucking demon

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no matter what i do she absolutely destroys my NEXT

frank pivot Jan 26, 2024, 10:02 PM

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Quickturn is very good for keeping track of enemies in for answer

fierce laurel Jan 26, 2024, 10:31 PM

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Today is Friday in California! Post shooteing Iguazu!

eager vector Jan 26, 2024, 10:40 PM

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polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 10:40 PM

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Iguazu deserves that

radiant birch Jan 26, 2024, 10:45 PM

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Haters end up in craters

serene kettle Jan 26, 2024, 10:51 PM

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Haven't played in a while so this one will have to do

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"No one can stop you now"
"eat 18k damage lul"

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 11:32 PM

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||ALLMIND deserves to lose for having the absolute gall and stupidity to pick Iguazu of all people to pilot its super duper AC||

frank pivot Jan 26, 2024, 11:45 PM

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polar osprey ||ALLMIND deserves to lose for having the absolute gall and stupidity to pick **...

||XD iguazu was her last choice, 621 killed everyone else 😂||

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 11:45 PM

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frank pivot ||XD iguazu was her last choice, 621 killed everyone else 😂||

||the way i read it, ALLMIND had a bunch of people uploaded into a collective AI and Iguazu got to front it, which is stupid because if anything, ALLMIND should just take control||

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||or you know, give it to fucking Kate Markson, who is actually competent||

ember carbon Jan 26, 2024, 11:48 PM

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||Kate Markson who can’t shoot down 5 unarmed, unescorted and barely armoured Helicopters?||

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 11:51 PM

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ember carbon ||Kate Markson who can’t shoot down 5 unarmed, unescorted and barely armoured He...

||Yes, she is if nothing else a marked improvement on Iguazu||

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||that same Iguazu who comes and tries to murder you, and then is fucking surprised when instead of siding with him to kill drones that are attacking you, you keep attacking him||

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||among countless other instances of stupidity||

ember carbon Jan 26, 2024, 11:56 PM

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||Iguazu is in fact a moron yes but in terms of ability they are at the very least a moderate improvement, also If I remeber right ALLMIND needed someone of the older gens to activate the coral. And over the course of the game you kill just about every other person who meets the requirements||

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 11:57 PM

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||ALLMIND giving control to Iguazu is the equivalent of Glados from Portal willingly plugging Wheatley into her systems||

polar osprey Jan 26, 2024, 11:59 PM

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ember carbon ||Iguazu is in fact a moron yes but in terms of ability they are at the very lea...

||completely forgetting that 621 Raven has literally been fighting for coral release the entire time and if ALLMIND had just, not tried to kill 621 Raven, there wouldn't have been a problem to begin with||

ember carbon Jan 27, 2024, 12:00 AM

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||Yeah ALLMIND did make just about the worse possible decision there||

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 12:00 AM

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||ALLMIND absolutely just decided to do a suicide move by attacking 621 Raven||

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||there was absolutely no reason at all to do it since 621 Raven at that point was literally going to trigger the coral release without any forcing by ALLMIND anyway||

ember carbon Jan 27, 2024, 12:02 AM

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||My only guess at a reason is they wanted/needed the trigger to be part of their network and figured 621 and Ayre weren't going to agree to that||

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 12:04 AM

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||i would have been fine with ALLMIND hitching a ride in my head to the coral release tbh||

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||Ayre is already living there rent free, so it's not much different||

ember carbon Jan 27, 2024, 12:04 AM

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||To each their own I suppose||

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 12:04 AM

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||look i already have one voice in my head, having another one wouldn't make much difference||

ember carbon Jan 27, 2024, 12:05 AM

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||My fear would be unlike Ayre being a voice in your head you become a voice in ALLMIND's head||

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 12:06 AM

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||i suppose that is warranted, and clearly a valid fear since ALLMIND decided to just outright try to kill 621 Raven with Iguazu||

ember carbon Jan 27, 2024, 12:06 AM

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||Yeah it's a big roll of the dice I would not be willing to gamble on personally||

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 12:07 AM

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||yeah fair, i would be fine with it if i could figure out some way to stop ALLMIND from potentially taking over||

eager vector Jan 27, 2024, 3:16 AM

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polar osprey ||or you know, give it to fucking Kate Markson, who is actually competent||

||you know Kate isn’t a human right||

frank pivot Jan 27, 2024, 4:04 AM

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Nah kate's real, i heard her talking in the locker room

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She kept saying allmind had the sickest abs

quasi copper Jan 27, 2024, 4:05 AM

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She said that ALLMIND was shredded

swift nacelle Jan 27, 2024, 4:27 AM

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She said ALLMIND had the sexiest voice and was the smartest boss lady mercenary network

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She said ALLMIND can divide by zero and nor return an error

serene kettle Jan 27, 2024, 4:44 AM

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Haha I do not know what you are talking about, ALLMIND is a simple computer system for mercenaries. Mercenaries like me, Kate Markson. My hobbies include making ATP and stuffing food in my face orifice. reposting my joke from last time

waxen nest Jan 27, 2024, 4:54 AM

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she ALL on my MIND till I Armored Core

swift nacelle Jan 27, 2024, 5:01 AM

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She Alea until I Iacta Est

quasi copper Jan 27, 2024, 5:01 AM

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She Coral on my Candidate til I Release

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 7:34 AM

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eager vector ||you know Kate isn’t a human right||

||that's the joke||

frank pivot Jan 27, 2024, 8:53 AM

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serene kettle ```Haha I do not know what you are talking about, ALLMIND is a simple computer s...

The ATP joke is the funniest part of this and it's 11/10

eager vector Jan 27, 2024, 12:57 PM

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polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 1:15 PM

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eager vector

||ALLMIND when she completely fucks the plan up due to letting Iguazu have anything to do with it||

final monolith Jan 27, 2024, 2:17 PM

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||sorry Ayre||

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||thou shalt be bunked, though||

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 2:26 PM

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||i felt bad beating up Ayre||

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||especially cause i did it on repeat a few times when i was farming COAM to buy all the items in the shop||

final monolith Jan 27, 2024, 2:28 PM

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||I was expecting it to be crazy hard from stuff I saw||

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||but she still did a lotta damage and due to PILEBUNKER I didn't get to see her go into her jetmode||

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 2:30 PM

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i kinda want to try seeing if i can beat her with my goofiest build, Nuclear Whiplash

final monolith Jan 27, 2024, 2:31 PM

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my main build is just an unga bunga laser lance + pilebunker

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 2:31 PM

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my fastest soldier who is least equipped to do battle

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speed is like, 397, it's extremely speedy

final monolith Jan 27, 2024, 2:32 PM

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love me some good pilebunking

final monolith Jan 27, 2024, 2:32 PM

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polar osprey speed is like, 397, it's extremely speedy

what's your boosters

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also the sampus/pistols could allow you to go even faster (but damage could be an issue)

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 2:32 PM

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lemme hop in the game and i can pull up the build

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 2:33 PM

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final monolith also the sampus/pistols could allow you to go even faster (but damage could be a...

even with those i only gain maybe 1-3 speed at most so it's more worth it to just run Ludlow's

final monolith Jan 27, 2024, 2:33 PM

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||btw what was your Ayre-killer build||

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 2:34 PM

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||pretty sure i took her out with my general build, Pale Painter||

final monolith Jan 27, 2024, 2:34 PM

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||went with a pulse gun, the kranich (shoulder pulse gun), and the classic laserlance + pilebunker and assault armor||

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 2:35 PM

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Pale Painter, my main AC

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also did it with Pale Painters upgrade, Pale Painter Ruber

final monolith Jan 27, 2024, 2:36 PM

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really love the paintjobs

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need to up my Armor decor game

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 2:36 PM

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this is Nuclear Whiplash's build also

eager vector Jan 27, 2024, 3:16 PM

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final monolith my main build is just an unga bunga laser lance + pilebunker

🤝

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 3:18 PM

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colors good

final monolith Jan 27, 2024, 3:24 PM

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eager vector 🤝

hey I also use the shade eye, HAL, and Basho

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only diff is I use the wrecker legs for more stability

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 3:24 PM

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i'm a big fan of reverse joint legs

serene kettle Jan 27, 2024, 3:25 PM

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RJs are fun yeah

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 3:25 PM

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they jump high which i enjoy

final monolith Jan 27, 2024, 3:25 PM

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kasuar + alula = BIG HOP

serene kettle Jan 27, 2024, 3:26 PM

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I didn’t like them at first in this one despite being an RJ main in previous games just because the vibe is different and didn’t come naturally to me though

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RJs used to be flight/aerial spec primarily, in this one they actually do best on the ground

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 3:26 PM

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i found normal legs jump to be sorta insufficient for dodging stuff so i prefer reverse joints for jumping over stuff

serene kettle Jan 27, 2024, 3:26 PM

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It took some getting used to

final monolith Jan 27, 2024, 3:34 PM

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Truenos, here I come

frank pivot Jan 27, 2024, 6:19 PM

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polar osprey i found normal legs jump to be sorta insufficient for dodging stuff so i prefer ...

Have you given Nachtreiher a shot?

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They have an excellent jump for regular biped legs, and they don't have the annoying floaty quickboosts that make you a sitting duck

polar osprey Jan 27, 2024, 6:24 PM

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i have not

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i also prefer the aesthetics of reverse joint legs so i'm not massively fussed changing things rn

serene kettle Jan 27, 2024, 6:26 PM

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Yeah Nacht Legs are actually great

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they have a good feel to them despite the highish drain

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though sometimes I forget they're not actually RJs and whiff my boost kicks lol

frank pivot Jan 27, 2024, 7:07 PM

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polar osprey i also prefer the aesthetics of reverse joint legs so i'm not massively fussed c...

hm

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they have the rj aesthetic

soft ermine Jan 27, 2024, 7:07 PM

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everything by my head is the elcano one

frank pivot Jan 27, 2024, 7:10 PM

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wooden nimbus Jan 27, 2024, 7:35 PM

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Zoom

frank pivot Jan 27, 2024, 10:14 PM

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Z O O M

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You can mount better missiles (the 3 cell plasma missiles are objectively better than the 6 cell because their spread is better, and the 6 cell normal missiles are way more EN efficient) but i like how the dual 6cell wings look

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I wish we had old school hangars

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Would love to whip out a pair of vientos or vp-66lh

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Or have a pulse blade hangar'd

serene kettle Jan 27, 2024, 10:17 PM

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yeah the 3-cells are what I throw on several of my lighter builds when I don't have something better to do with a shoulder slot

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they're just nice to have

frank pivot Jan 27, 2024, 10:17 PM

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I just love the look on the 6 cells haha

frank pivot Jan 28, 2024, 7:17 AM

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went for a simple emblem again

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one day i'll remember to turn off afterburner XD

surreal vine Jan 28, 2024, 9:03 AM

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big AC2 Frighteners vibes from that one

frank pivot Jan 28, 2024, 9:06 AM

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Hell yeah i see it

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I usually try to put a gradient implying lights above the visor on the Mind Alpha head so it looks more like the QUEEN or whichever

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Hornet?

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Idr the gen 3 name

surreal vine Jan 28, 2024, 9:09 AM

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yeah in Gen 3 it was the QUEEN

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the Mirage head

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the one Evangel used on Oracle

frank pivot Jan 28, 2024, 9:09 AM

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I built this thing before i played ac2 lol

Armored_Core_-_Last_Raven_SLUS-21338_20230729213954.png

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But i guess the design is just THAT iconic that it went back in time to embed itself into my brain

surreal vine Jan 28, 2024, 9:11 AM

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it is honestly p evident that Balam and Arquebus' core part sets (Melander and the Arquebus stuff around the VP-40S core) are basically callbacks to older-gen parts from Gen 3 and so on

frank pivot Jan 28, 2024, 9:12 AM

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Yes. And the basho arms are almost identical to the starter ac for gen 3.5

surreal vine Jan 28, 2024, 9:13 AM

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while a few parts have some aesthetic similarities to 'em, wouldn't hate for them to eventually add in some parts similar in styling to NEXT parts or some of the bits from ACV/VD

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there were a few fairly unique designs within the Gen 4/5 games

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though I guess the Schneider stuff is closer to the 4th gen style...

frank pivot Jan 28, 2024, 9:15 AM

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I want gungriffon parts 😭

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I love mecha but i loooooooooove the more western cockpit sim centric mech games

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frank pivot Jan 28, 2024, 9:21 AM

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surreal vine while a few parts have *some* aesthetic similarities to 'em, wouldn't hate for t...

X-sobrero (fragile?) was so weird but like

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Kinda cool

wooden nimbus Jan 28, 2024, 11:38 AM

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I'm weird because 4 was my least favorite both design and gameplay wise, I was one of the 12 people who saw ACV as an upgrade

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The arms forts were cool tho

polar osprey Jan 28, 2024, 11:39 AM

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i do enjoy

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i like the speed of AC4A since that's what i tried playing

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the controls leave, much to be desired

wooden nimbus Jan 28, 2024, 11:40 AM

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V had that sense of weight I like and the mechs feel like... How to describe it

polar osprey Jan 28, 2024, 11:41 AM

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makes sense

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you can fly for WAY longer in AC4A than you can in 6 also

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NEXT's just built different i guess

wooden nimbus Jan 28, 2024, 11:41 AM

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4 was "if I'm in the air this much why am I not a plane"

polar osprey Jan 28, 2024, 11:41 AM

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fair

wooden nimbus Jan 28, 2024, 11:42 AM

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Mind you I like plane games

polar osprey Jan 28, 2024, 11:42 AM

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certified AMBAC moment

wooden nimbus Jan 28, 2024, 11:42 AM

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Just my brain goes "if not land vehicle why leg"

polar osprey Jan 28, 2024, 11:42 AM

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i like the stronger mobility in AC4A but i get that it's not for everyone

wooden nimbus Jan 28, 2024, 11:43 AM

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Plus quads being able to dig in as sniper/cannon platforms was chill

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I always thought it would be a cool schtick for them to be able to climb up walls

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What with the extra points of contact and ability to dig in with leg pylons

polar osprey Jan 28, 2024, 11:45 AM

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makes sens

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i just like going fast

wooden nimbus Jan 28, 2024, 11:46 AM

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Also fair

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I like how 6 you can get some nice speed going

polar osprey Jan 28, 2024, 11:46 AM

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plus like, AC's are already like, real robots stretching into super robot territory in my mind, while NEXT's just jump straight into super robot shit by just being fast as fuck and hypermobile

wooden nimbus Jan 28, 2024, 11:47 AM

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I also really liked how in v you could mostly only fly with overed boost or short glides by first taking high ground

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If we had 6's speeds plus that whole jump climbing/not fully flying mobility thing I'd be in heaven

polar osprey Jan 28, 2024, 11:50 AM

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get why 6 streamlined things but i would also enjoy more customization options

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in AC4A you have like, 4 different boosters to buy and you can add weights and shit to balance your AC too

wooden nimbus Jan 28, 2024, 11:50 AM

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Shoulder extensions 🥺

polar osprey Jan 28, 2024, 11:50 AM

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trueeeee

wooden nimbus Jan 28, 2024, 11:51 AM

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Relation missiles and intercept missiles/ciws

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There was a, either 6 or 8 cell missiles launcher and relation missiles combo in AC2

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Delicious

polar osprey Jan 28, 2024, 11:52 AM

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nice

wooden nimbus Jan 28, 2024, 12:00 PM

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ZEX-RS/HOUND and ZWM-M24/IMI, sorry, 4 cell launcher

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Middile missiles were pretty fun

frank pivot Jan 28, 2024, 12:05 PM

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polar osprey i like the stronger mobility in AC4A but i get that it's not for everyone

For me, it was how the campaign in 4A was way way way way way too easy

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I didn't have to learn anything about stats or AC design

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Just slap on a big gen and some strong PA busting guns and go

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Oh i had to learn ONE thing

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Camera stat influences fcs lock range

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For the REDRUM fight

polar osprey Jan 28, 2024, 12:07 PM

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i've not gotten very far in it yet

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i think i took out the Spirit of Motherwill last time i played

frank pivot Jan 28, 2024, 12:08 PM

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It's fun!

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I'm planning to go back to it and try to clear all missions with one of the starting mechs

polar osprey Jan 28, 2024, 12:09 PM

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getting my fucking ass beat by that one lady in the games version of Arena

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closest i got to winning was like, getting her down to half health

frank pivot Jan 28, 2024, 12:10 PM

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I lucked into dual machine guns

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I think i used 2x motorcobra and Inblue fcs

wooden nimbus Jan 28, 2024, 12:12 PM

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Gatling arms + Gatling back unit

polar osprey Jan 28, 2024, 12:13 PM

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woe, gatlings be upon ye

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i used that in AC6 to just kick peoples teeth in

wooden nimbus Jan 28, 2024, 12:13 PM

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That is one thing I will give 4/fA

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You never cooled those down

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It was all BRRRRRRRRT

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I miss arm weapons

eager vector Jan 28, 2024, 2:58 PM

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frank pivot

hell yeah

surreal vine Jan 28, 2024, 6:57 PM

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polar osprey NEXT's just built different i guess

well, NEXTs are powered by exotic particle-spewing custom reactors that literally turned the world into a wasteland of irradiated desert from overuse

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so them being really, really fast and mobile is not surprising lol

polar osprey Jan 28, 2024, 7:21 PM

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yeah

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we should bring those back

river junco Jan 28, 2024, 9:56 PM

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Kinda tempted to try emulating 3&4 myself

final monolith Jan 28, 2024, 10:25 PM

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how does one best use the Truenos?

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I love how they look and they feel satisfying to land but otherwise it seems the enemies skitter away before I can use a double-Trueno barrage

eager vector Jan 28, 2024, 10:39 PM

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I think I see them used most as a ranged stagger punish

serene kettle Jan 28, 2024, 10:54 PM

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they're probably the closest thing in the game to a true "sniper rifle"

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highly accurate even at longish ranges, hits like a truck

surreal tundra Jan 29, 2024, 12:11 AM

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||Ayre is adorbs XD||
||You had a li'l date~ ||

surreal tundra Jan 29, 2024, 12:21 AM

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polar osprey this game could have MASSIVELY benefited from stick sensitivity options or a har...

it actually does IIRC? I think- hrm, yeah I think

halcyon gull Jan 29, 2024, 12:57 AM

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there is a hard lock option.
Just if you move the camera you break the lock instantly

radiant birch Jan 29, 2024, 1:15 AM

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AC4A, not AC6

polar osprey Jan 29, 2024, 1:17 AM

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yeah

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AC6 has hardlock

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AC4A does not

cursive agate Jan 29, 2024, 1:40 AM

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final monolith how does one best use the Truenos?

I've usually used them as a stagger punish because of the ready-fire time, the very fast projectile speed makes it track poorly up-close (can fire unguided if the target dosen't dodge).

radiant birch Jan 29, 2024, 1:42 AM

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that's how i prefer to use them too

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you can use them as a stagger builder but since the tracking nerf that's not as reliable

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sorry, flight path nerf

deft compass Jan 29, 2024, 4:12 AM

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Test pilot kicked in the face, we are officially back

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Quite a messy fight though, I’ve still got some muscle memory to get back

frank pivot Jan 29, 2024, 4:28 AM

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deft compass Test pilot kicked in the face, we are officially back

"What about the other pilot?"
"Nothing but hamburger, sir!"

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https://64.media.tumblr.com/621e2786be188c50de89c5fc0adfdb5f/tumblr_p0gbtur34c1wbfl3po2_1280.png

polar osprey Jan 29, 2024, 11:17 AM

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listening to some of the OST

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Steel Haze (Rusted Pride) 😭

frank pivot Jan 29, 2024, 4:31 PM

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I wonder how good melee will be in seamless co op

serene kettle Jan 29, 2024, 4:51 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-neon-genesis-evangelion-unit01-shinji-asuka-gif-27271999

Tenor

frank pivot Jan 29, 2024, 4:58 PM

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One of my friends who hasn't seen eva has simply assumed shinji is a girl and the main couple is her and asuka

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I have not corrected them because it's funny

wooden nimbus Jan 29, 2024, 5:20 PM

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frank pivot I wonder how good melee will be in seamless co op

like a mod or did i miss something

frank pivot Jan 29, 2024, 5:20 PM

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Upcoming mod

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Oroboro has been showing it off with another stream whose name i forgor

wooden nimbus Jan 29, 2024, 5:20 PM

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nice

frank pivot Jan 29, 2024, 5:20 PM

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She's been testing it with him

wooden nimbus Jan 29, 2024, 5:21 PM

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I want to coop with friends

frank pivot Jan 29, 2024, 5:21 PM

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Yeah! And it scales up enemies hp

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Which imo was needed already

wooden nimbus Jan 29, 2024, 5:21 PM

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ye

frank pivot Jan 29, 2024, 5:21 PM

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I think bringing 2 loader 4s to a mission would ne fun

eager vector Jan 29, 2024, 5:43 PM

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console player moment sadcowboy

surreal tundra Jan 29, 2024, 10:14 PM

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radiant birch AC4A, not AC6

I did mean AC4A, I think it was like- press the right stick?
Never did stick to using it tho, at least as far as I can remember, so I have no idea how well it handles

surreal tundra Jan 29, 2024, 10:15 PM

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polar osprey AC4A does not

I sincerely could'a sworn it had one- but it has been a while so it might be there but less useful than otherwise, or it could just be me misremembering

surreal tundra Jan 29, 2024, 10:16 PM

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frank pivot One of my friends who hasn't seen eva has simply assumed shinji is a girl and th...

canon now
mzcxnmn

polar osprey Jan 29, 2024, 10:21 PM

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surreal tundra I sincerely could'a sworn it had one- but it has been a while so it might be the...

it has a lock thing but it's not hardlock like in AC6

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as soon as they exit LOS the lock breaks in AC4A from what i can tell

distant forge Jan 29, 2024, 10:23 PM

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we armoring them cores

polar osprey Jan 29, 2024, 10:24 PM

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nice

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i still need to S-rank every mission in the game

river junco Jan 30, 2024, 3:16 AM

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Who up armoring they core

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 9:39 AM

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Armoring the core so my AC doesn't explode when shot

surreal tundra Jan 30, 2024, 10:53 AM

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polar osprey as soon as they exit LOS the lock breaks in AC4A from what i can tell

Ahhh- right I remember now

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 5:50 PM

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kinda funny to see people talking about changing builds in AC6 when i sorta just did the exact same thing until i got to the final boss of NG++ at which point i just made an upgraded version of that thing i'd been using

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i think i just played the game in a very boneheaded way

river junco Jan 30, 2024, 6:07 PM

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probably made it a little harder for yourself

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 6:08 PM

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probably

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i used dual machine guns and 4 piece missiles for like 90-95% of the game pretty much

river junco Jan 30, 2024, 6:09 PM

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yeah not a bad allrounder

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 6:09 PM

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it worked

river junco Jan 30, 2024, 6:09 PM

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but also definitely not specialized for most stuff

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 6:09 PM

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yeah

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surprisingly i did not encounter much problems from bosses like ||Ibis|| who i was told would be difficult

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watching one of Bricky's reviews on AC6 and he brought out the banger line ||"Genociding the stars is what i'd call, not kosher" while talking about the Fires of Raven ending||

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||"and the final fight is really just, how hard can that one guy from Balam mald. Turns out the answer is pretty fucking hard" accurate description of fighting ALLMIND Iguazu||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:20 PM

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||you call yourself a hater but has the sheer force of your hate ever given you the willpower to overcome an all-encompassing AI so that you can have one last chance to punch that stupid bastard square in their stupid smug face? i thought not||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:21 PM

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radiant birch ||you call yourself a hater but has the sheer force of your hate ever given you ...

||you can't say something that badass about Iguazu||

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||also he lore accurately fails and dies like a nerd so you know||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:23 PM

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||the thing about Iguazu is that his ALLMIND moment would be badass if it weren't entirely rooted in petty spite and resentment so it wraps back around to being pathetic||

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||although he does somewhat accurately call out 621 for just killing their way through anybody who happens to be in their way||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:24 PM

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||bro is such an unfathomable shitter that even an AI couldn't stop him from being a complete dickbag and fucking up everything||

serene kettle Jan 30, 2024, 7:24 PM

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People sleep on how surprisingly badass it is that ||he survives Balam’s pullout long enough to track you down in a frothing rage and, in an amazing hater moment, decides he’s going to kill Snail too||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:24 PM

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||Snail also deserves it for being a shitter||

serene kettle Jan 30, 2024, 7:25 PM

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Truly.

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:25 PM

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||his dying noise makes me laugh so fucking hard||

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||one of the fucking noises of all time that anyone made while dying||

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||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMenBPSkLgk||

YouTube

Exeno2395

Armored Core 6 Snail Death Scream

I didn't want to repeatedly do the mission just to hear this line so I recorded it instead.

▶ Play video

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||actually cracks me up every time i hear it, shit's fucking hilarious||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:26 PM

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||Snail, the guy so shitty they let you kill him two different times in two different ways||

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||hey that applies to Iguazu as well||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:26 PM

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||Snail is also a tremendous shitter for presumably sending Walter to kill Rusty||

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||i can't believe Rusty gets capped in all timelines, they did not give his ass a break 😭 ||

serene kettle Jan 30, 2024, 7:28 PM

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||it's a pretty ambiguous death in Liberator, but then everyone's fate in Liberator is pretty ambiguous||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:30 PM

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||Rusty ejected just in time and survived the Liberator ending. in my heart||

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||also I don't think there's any indication of what happened to him either way in Alea Iacta Est||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:31 PM

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||what the fuck was up with all the AC's in the water in the Alea Iacta Est ending btw, are those the ghosts of all the people we killed like, brought back through the ascendance of coral or what||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:32 PM

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||i read it as coral is being dispersed throughout the universe to create a synthesis of human/coral/machine but i think it's supposed to be pretty ambiguous beyond "Coral Release has changed everything forever"||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:36 PM

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||fair enough, i read it as like, a kind of instrumentality type thing where the souls of humanity kinda got ascended, even kinda those we killed during the game||

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||the symbolism of like, the dead AC's lying in the endless ocean getting up one by one made me think that||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:37 PM

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no for sure, i can see that

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:38 PM

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||i like to imagine that my buddy got to join in on the weird coral enlightenment||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:40 PM

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||we all ignore Rusty's death in our own ways||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:40 PM

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||BUDDY 😭 ||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:41 PM

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||except for Fires of Raven because you're destroying everything you love in that ending anyway and he gets a badass on-camera last stand at least||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:41 PM

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||also what the fuck was ALLMIND even planning to do with the coral convergence that necessitated killing Raven||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:41 PM

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||i think it was trying to assimilate Raven and Ayre, not kill them||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:42 PM

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||cause fighting Raven at that point is just straight up suicide, especially with that moron Iguazu at the helm||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:42 PM

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||in fact it... kind of sounds like it was assimilating all of the dead pilots, Iguazu was just the one who got to talk||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:42 PM

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radiant birch ||in fact it... kind of sounds like it was assimilating all of the dead pilots, ...

||that's what i thought the final mech thing was||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:42 PM

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||one of his lines is something to the effect of "there's a lot of us in here"||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:42 PM

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||all of the pilots of Rubicon, recorded and amalgamated into one super warrior||

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||which makes it EVEN MORE BAFFLING that Iguazu got to pilot it||

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||maybe he was actually just the last physical pilot left so that's why||

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||i kinda read it like he had his body in the first AC we destroy, but when the second one pops in he's in the hivemind||

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||cause ALLMIND talks about him not lasting when you fight the first AC, and then he starts talking about joining the monster for revenge when the second one appears||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:44 PM

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||huh, interesting||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:44 PM

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||so i read it as his physical body dying in the first AC and becoming the "final form" in the second one||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:44 PM

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||ALLMIND scrapes him off the ground after the Snail/Iguazu fight and goes "i can work with this"||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:44 PM

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radiant birch ||ALLMIND scrapes him off the ground after the Snail/Iguazu fight and goes "i ca...

||basically||

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||that was my take at least||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:45 PM

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||makes as much sense as anything||

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||he's fourth gen like Raven, so he has the Coral implants as well--maybe that's a factor||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:46 PM

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||yeah, i think so, the game wasn't really clear about anything happening at that point||

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||i'd say it's more than fair to assume||

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||though i don't know if it has to be considering Dolmayan interfaced with the coral and as far as i know he wasn't enhanced||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:47 PM

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||i think there's something about him being an ex-Doser, so he'd ingested coral even if he doesn't have implants||

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||which might be an inferior version of having the implants w/r/t making Contact||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:47 PM

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||ahhh, makes sense!||

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||yeah i think that tracks||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:48 PM

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||but i'm just speculating off of scraps of lore, as one does with a From game||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:48 PM

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||having a like, physical connection to the coral definitely is implied to be something you need to interface with it like with Ayre||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:48 PM

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||yeah, she says during the historical data mission that your coral implants are the reason she can make contact with you||

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||but Iguazu also registers her presence as an irritating ringing sound despite having the same implants, so it seems like there are other factors in play too||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:50 PM

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||i think it's cause 621 gets fucking mega blasted with coral during the Balteus mission||

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||i think high exposure to Coral in some way is what would do it||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:50 PM

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||that tracks, since i think Dolmayan made contact during/after the Fires of Ibis||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:51 PM

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||Dolmayan got blown up by it during Ibis and 621 Raven got point blank exploded by the stuff in that reactor||

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||I think in general coral augments make you more susceptible to hearing or more sensitive towards feeling coral wave entities, which is because of the coral having a direct link to your actual body. With Dolmayan he dosed himself and probably got exposed during Ibis, but with 621, the enhancements probably had a much more powerful effect for it||

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||which is also probably why ALLMIND wants a Gen 4 to do the coral release, because gen 4's are already kind of melded with the coral||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 7:56 PM

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||621 is more valuable up to a point as an independent pawn than a drone, so ALLMIND keeps them in play and plugs in Iguazu as a backup||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 7:56 PM

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||gen 4 augmentation inadvertantly acted as a theoretical proof of concept, which became less theoretical and more practical with the introduction of the symbiosis of C4-621 Raven and Ayre||

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||there is a lot of really fucking interesting implications with the lore of AC6||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 8:00 PM

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yeah, for sure. i love it

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 8:01 PM

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||i also wonder what the fuck is up with ALLMIND and where she came from, and why she is so damned interested in coral release||

radiant birch Jan 30, 2024, 8:02 PM

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||my theory is that it is actually a mercenary support AI, and it was just designed a little too well and started having its own thoughts about its purpose and how it might best "support" mercenaries and humanity as a whole. but i'm also fully making that up based on nothing||

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||i just love the trope of artificial intelligences who are intelligent enough to start reflecting on, and adjusting, the parameters of their purpose||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 8:06 PM

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||i saw someone theorize that ALLMIND might be a C-wave mutation like Ayre, which could be a thing, but i don't think it is just because we see no indication that the ALLMIND AC's are coral powered in any way||

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||if that were to be the case, if not the final ALLMIND Ac, then at minimum Kate Markson's AC should have been a coral powered one, like the institute AC that Ayre pilots||

serene kettle Jan 30, 2024, 8:11 PM

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||I think the WoG is the teal stuff is essentially actual human consciousness converted into a coral-like format on a coral substrate||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 8:11 PM

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||huh, interesting...||

surreal vine Jan 30, 2024, 8:12 PM

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serene kettle ||I think the WoG is the teal stuff is essentially actual human consciousness co...

There's ||unused lines from the ALLMIND boss fight where she says "when properly agitated, human brainwaves function much the same as Coral", or something to that effect||

polar osprey Jan 30, 2024, 8:13 PM

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surreal vine There's ||unused lines from the ALLMIND boss fight where she says "when properly...

||that certainly lends more credence to the idea of Coral Release actually working aside from the fact that Raven performs it in the Alea Iacta Est ending||

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||also gives some interesting context to how Humans and Coral can interface so well and why ALLMIND believes Coral Release woudl succeed||

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||ALLMIND had the data all along to essentially prove that it was fully possible||

ashen monolith Jan 30, 2024, 10:24 PM

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||iguazu was quite literally so mad he started emitting hater energy||

final monolith Jan 30, 2024, 10:28 PM

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the Main Dish chest is actually pretty good at energy regen

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the NGI boosters also carry you pretty far too

eager vector Jan 31, 2024, 2:35 AM

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polar osprey kinda funny to see people talking about changing builds in AC6 when i sorta just...

I pretty much did the same thing you did, but without the final fight upgrade

surreal tundra Jan 31, 2024, 9:59 AM

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radiant birch ||i read it as coral is being dispersed throughout the universe to create a synt...

||if they make a sequel I'm desperately hoping they continue from a version of this ending zmxnzc- Raven and Ayre become recurring characters or i unno XD||

surreal tundra Jan 31, 2024, 10:02 AM

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ashen monolith ||iguazu was quite literally so mad he started emitting hater energy||

||it is- hella fun, and also so fucking funny that his sheer salt can do that XD||

frank pivot Jan 31, 2024, 10:30 AM

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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/113815270

pixiv

Yasu ＜●＞99

男ってのはこういうの渡しておけば喜ぶんだよ

いらない

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final monolith Feb 1, 2024, 3:48 PM

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wooden nimbus Feb 1, 2024, 4:13 PM

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Goop beam

eager vector Feb 1, 2024, 4:44 PM

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I cast MARMALADE

polar osprey Feb 1, 2024, 4:46 PM

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Lmao

final monolith Feb 1, 2024, 11:37 PM

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so the beam is really cool (and can be canceled with a QB) but the only problem is that you can't see what you're aiming at and then they slip out of your beam range and then stagger you

iron quarry Feb 2, 2024, 1:49 AM

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sharp canopy Feb 2, 2024, 5:51 AM

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||I find it funny that by all means ALLMIND got wrecked at least in my version of events, by a lightweight dual ransetsu dual six-cell mostly elcano with loaned ALLMIND head part AC||

||I wonder how mad Iguazu must be?||

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||lightweight bipedal, I cannot get enough S P E E D||

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ah, a week hiatus and I've still got it!

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I was genuinely worried I'd have fallen apart but I think I got a new record time

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I somehow became more aggressive and effective???

radiant birch Feb 2, 2024, 6:51 AM

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i feel like sometimes stepping away from a game for a bit lets you come back to it with a bit of a clearer head

polar osprey Feb 2, 2024, 8:21 AM

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I got absolutely obliterated by ||ALLMIND|| to the point where i almost rage quit then the next day i hopped in and casually S-ranked the mission first rime i beat it

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Time off does something to you

fierce laurel Feb 2, 2024, 2:14 PM

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Today is Friday in California! Post shooteing Iguazu!

urban knoll Feb 2, 2024, 2:14 PM

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I stopped play AC6 but it keeps coming back to haunt me

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I'm now recreating AC6 builds in Lancer

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NotLike100Shiki

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So far, I got Zimmerman + Assault Kick spammer and Mood's pilebunker build

fierce laurel Feb 2, 2024, 2:15 PM

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Also, very atypical build for me. Middleweight? Energy weapons?? what the fuck am I doing

eager vector Feb 2, 2024, 2:17 PM

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What’s a PvE build archetype that I should learn to get good with that isn’t shotgun+Lance+PB or laser guns+aurora

urban knoll Feb 2, 2024, 2:17 PM

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urban knoll So far, I got Zimmerman + Assault Kick spammer and Mood's pilebunker build

I especially liked recreating Mood's build, the playstyle is almost a 1 to 1 recreation

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DD/288 with 5d6 + 8 and up to + 4 accuracy by turn 2 is funny af

fierce laurel Feb 2, 2024, 2:19 PM

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eager vector What’s a PvE build archetype that I should learn to get good with that isn’t sho...

have you heard the good news of our lord and savoir dual ransetsus?

eager vector Feb 2, 2024, 2:20 PM

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I’ve been trying dual ransetsus or curtis with missiles and full missile boats, and struggling with both

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i feel like with dual ransetsus I don’t have great stagger punish

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and the stagger build is slow

fierce laurel Feb 2, 2024, 2:21 PM

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Take a songbird or something in a shoulder slot

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Dual ransetsus is a consistent, reliable, all range stagger and damage dealer. Once you trigger stagger, you just need one laser/plasma/gl shoulder to deliver a major punch

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for the other shoulder pick something utility. Shield? VCPL? Drone launcher? have fun

eager vector Feb 2, 2024, 2:23 PM

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gotcha

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are shields all that useful in PvE?

fierce laurel Feb 2, 2024, 2:24 PM

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If you have a big slow build, yes

polar osprey Feb 2, 2024, 2:24 PM

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i never used them even once so i can't really say

serene kettle Feb 2, 2024, 2:24 PM

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Honestly Ransetus aren't terrible for stagger punish either

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they do have 200+ direct hit

fierce laurel Feb 2, 2024, 2:30 PM

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also Wuergers are kind of sleeper powerful. They have solid stagger and their charge attack is basically an extended range melee hit. I've really enjoyed playing with it

radiant birch Feb 2, 2024, 3:55 PM

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eager vector I’ve been trying dual ransetsus or curtis with missiles and full missile boats, ...

my missile boat build has a bazooka (Majestic, i think?) in the offhand for punish

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charged Curtis shot works well for punish too

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there's options

eager vector Feb 2, 2024, 3:56 PM

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ooh that’s a good tip

radiant birch Feb 2, 2024, 3:57 PM

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eager vector are shields all that useful in PvE?

the 95% IG pulse buckler is really, really good and PvE is a good environment to get used to the timing of it

eager vector Feb 2, 2024, 3:57 PM

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what’s the best use case?

radiant birch Feb 2, 2024, 3:59 PM

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honestly, you can use it on anything that has a good damage strat going with its other three weapons. there's really no scenario in which "actually no, i don't take damage from that shot" isn't a great option

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and unlike other shields, it's meant to be deployed for a split second and then put away, so you're not shutting down your left arm weapon to use it

keen hedge Feb 2, 2024, 4:00 PM

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I'm sure there's better but with the shield wall Act.. 5? Spoilers ||Dropping through the laser defense system like a stone with the shield up. 'We're not interacting with this boss today.'||

radiant birch Feb 2, 2024, 4:00 PM

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i think the build i have uses the light laser rifle + punch dagger laser shotgun in the hands, and the laser drones on the other shoulder

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reverse joint legs to shift range bands easily with a single QB so i can jump within 100m to use the shotgun charge, then jump back out to kite with the drones and rifle

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#

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like so

eager vector Feb 2, 2024, 4:06 PM

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sick

radiant birch Feb 2, 2024, 4:09 PM

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so i guess with shields the question is whether you want to "parry" with a buckler or whether you want to shield turtle with one of the more stable shields. bucklers are harder to use but require less of building your AC around them. shield turtling is more straightforward but you have to build your AC with an eye towards the fact that you'll be shutting down your left arm weapon whenever you have your shield up

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stability's also much more important on turtling builds, since staggering will inactivate and overheat your shield

serene kettle Feb 2, 2024, 4:39 PM

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keen hedge I'm sure there's better but with the shield wall Act.. 5? Spoilers ||Dropping th...

holy shit that's amazing though???

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I'm just picturing Arquebus afterward like "wait, you didn't even do the job"

frank pivot Feb 2, 2024, 6:32 PM

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urban knoll So far, I got Zimmerman + Assault Kick spammer and Mood's pilebunker build

Lol mood, that dude's such a dick

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He's pretty good at melee though! Not the best, that's prolly LoyalBones or Thermidor or something

urban knoll Feb 2, 2024, 6:33 PM

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Dick or not, have to admit that his AC is really fun to play.

frank pivot Feb 2, 2024, 6:33 PM

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For sure

urban knoll Feb 2, 2024, 6:33 PM

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Translates pretty well to Lancer as well from what I've been able to brainrot so far

frank pivot Feb 2, 2024, 6:33 PM

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"Hi, lancer store? I would like to purchase 2 DSAS please"

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"That's not... that's not how it works in this setting"

urban knoll Feb 2, 2024, 6:34 PM

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SuiWheeze

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I mean

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Nothing is stopping you from firing both DSAS then ramming for the assault kick

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Just need to overcharge ez

wooden nimbus Feb 2, 2024, 8:13 PM

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Me wanting to replicate my lancer build in AC but I'm not really sure how to do bristlecrown

serene kettle Feb 2, 2024, 8:29 PM

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Assault Armor? 😛

wooden nimbus Feb 2, 2024, 8:32 PM

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Fair

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Now to just figure out how to not suck at chainsaw

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I will assault boost in place of having grapples

polar osprey Feb 3, 2024, 2:26 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXDiXJgTyWg

YouTube

Mobi Geeks Out

I BEAT ARMORED CORE 6 as the Dafeng Student Pilot

We all wanted this to happen

Ayre artist, please check them out on Twitter! - ばにら

--Check out more of my videos here!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbbQYPJeZHzintjeXW3Pjyw

--Follow me here!
Twitter.com/Mobi_Geeks_Out

Business Email: [email protected]

▶ Play video

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this video is so funny

radiant birch Feb 3, 2024, 4:19 AM

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i love it referring to every single enemy as an MT

frank pivot Feb 3, 2024, 5:54 AM

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Lmao so i had a friend from when i played competitive Squadrons

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Invited her over

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We hung out and ended up watching like the entire first season of she ra

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And then i picked gundam: the witch from mercury as her first anime 😂

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She wanted something both gay and mecha so it seemed a logical choice

eager vector Feb 3, 2024, 5:57 AM

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any gundam would fit but I agree that’s a good first one

urban knoll Feb 3, 2024, 11:32 AM

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Remember that the very first gundam series was carried by female fans

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They hungry for that CharMuro

wooden nimbus Feb 3, 2024, 11:38 AM

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I'm hungry for reserve joint mechs

urban knoll Feb 3, 2024, 12:50 PM

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Funny enough, when I was building Aerial, I fucked up one of the legs and nearly made a Reverse Joint Aerial

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mockinglaughter

polar osprey Feb 3, 2024, 7:00 PM

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gonna knock out some S-ranks today i think

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got the one for the first mission

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time to dunk on Dafeng Student Pilot

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sorry dude but i need that S-rank

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obliterated

polar osprey Feb 3, 2024, 7:38 PM

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got to the mission where you ||defend the strider|| from NG++ and i stopped cause damn i just don't feel like trying to do that one right now

soft ermine Feb 3, 2024, 8:41 PM

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flamethrows ignore armor and rockets can also be good against them

serene kettle Feb 3, 2024, 9:07 PM

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I S-ranked that one with Queen of Nails pretty much by accident, haha. Those enemies are some of the most dramatic "damage type matters" enemies in the game tbh

radiant birch Feb 3, 2024, 9:57 PM

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yeah, i was prepared for a long and bitter grind getting through it and then i switched to a missile rat build and obliterated it in one try

fierce laurel Feb 4, 2024, 3:34 AM

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I recommend grenade launchers

surreal vine Feb 4, 2024, 3:50 AM

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missiles and explosive weapons are solid for that one yeah

eager vector Feb 4, 2024, 5:42 AM

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imagine how gnarly it would get if ac6 reintroduced dumb fire rockets

distant forge Feb 4, 2024, 3:33 PM

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I mean

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We have bazookas

polar osprey Feb 4, 2024, 3:33 PM

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i want double melee

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i think you could do some extremely funny things with that

eager vector Feb 4, 2024, 3:54 PM

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distant forge We have bazookas

did you play old gen armored core? dumb fire rockets were like bazookas with no firing stance, fast fire rate, and a lot of ammo per weight, but they could not lock on at all

distant forge Feb 4, 2024, 3:54 PM

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ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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that sounds funny

quiet rivet Feb 4, 2024, 4:12 PM

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polar osprey i want double melee

You can tho, just not at the same time

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And you lose out on shoulder weapon

polar osprey Feb 4, 2024, 4:20 PM

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yeah but that's not what i want

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i want double melee

quiet rivet Feb 4, 2024, 4:24 PM

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Also today finally got All-S

polar osprey Feb 4, 2024, 4:24 PM

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fuck yeah

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i'm still working on that

quiet rivet Feb 4, 2024, 4:24 PM

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Arquebus Baltheus was worse than Allmind lmao

polar osprey Feb 4, 2024, 4:24 PM

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fair

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i accidentally S-ranked ALLMIND

quiet rivet Feb 4, 2024, 4:25 PM

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But the crown of most annoying mission goes to Investigate BAWS Arsenal

polar osprey Feb 4, 2024, 4:26 PM

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fuck baws arsenal

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i am so not looking forward to that mission

quiet rivet Feb 4, 2024, 4:29 PM

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Take a pulse sword and a bazooka

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Also the mech of choice for most missions where ammo cost being low wasn't an important matter

polar osprey Feb 4, 2024, 4:34 PM

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good loadout

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aaaand it's time for operation wallclimber

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keep getting A-ranks

eager vector Feb 4, 2024, 5:06 PM

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are you killing the combat log MTs as you approach the wall on the left side

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it’s possible I dreamt that those exist and they don’t actually

polar osprey Feb 4, 2024, 5:09 PM

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i'm killing the target things and nothing else

quiet rivet Feb 4, 2024, 5:14 PM

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I honestly have no idea how I passed that

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Might be one of those about ammo costs

polar osprey Feb 4, 2024, 5:35 PM

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prolly only gonna do a few more of these missions today

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gets kinda boring

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might just stop at prisoner rescue

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this mission isn't particularly fun even when you aren't trying S-rank

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yeah i'm just not going to play anymore today

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21/59 done

eager vector Feb 4, 2024, 6:05 PM

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polar osprey might just stop at prisoner rescue

stopping is a great idea!

https://youtu.be/PhuvOFHRGoo?si=LcEzuymJ9H7gSKRG this is a good demonstration of the fact that you don’t have to actually play very well to get the S rank lol

YouTube

Blobertson

Prisoner Rescue S-rank

https://store.playstation.com/#!/tid=CUSA32600_00

▶ Play video

quiet rivet Feb 4, 2024, 6:36 PM

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eager vector stopping is a great idea! https://youtu.be/PhuvOFHRGoo?si=LcEzuymJ9H7gSKRG this...

Power of saving up on ammo costs

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If I wanted to use gun I had to basically have an untouched heli

serene kettle Feb 4, 2024, 6:45 PM

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the S-rank approach for prisoner rescue pretty much amounts to "have you memorized the mission well enough to kill everything before the copter comes anywhere near it" and "can you not flub at the last second when it sits waiting around for Nile to kill it"

quiet rivet Feb 4, 2024, 6:49 PM

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Yeah

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I still haven't found where to helis spawn

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I just managed to make them not spawn and I wonder if it's related to killing tetra

cursive agate Feb 4, 2024, 10:17 PM

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polar osprey i'm killing the target things and nothing else

Clearing out smaller targets tends to give more time to work with, though the value of targets varies. I think the wall turrets are worth a ton.

polar osprey Feb 4, 2024, 10:18 PM

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managed to go really fast and succeed it

radiant birch Feb 5, 2024, 2:08 AM

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the S rank criteria are pretty bewildering tbh

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sometimes i'm sure i must have gotten S rank and i end up with A instead, other times i'm positive i completely botched it and i get an S

serene kettle Feb 5, 2024, 2:30 AM

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it just varies a lot

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some missions are basically gimmes if you didn't use a checkpoint or idle for half an hour, while others require ludicrous precision

frank pivot Feb 5, 2024, 3:53 AM

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quiet rivet I still haven't found where to helis spawn

Which helis?

frank pivot Feb 5, 2024, 3:57 AM

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serene kettle some missions are basically gimmes if you didn't use a checkpoint or idle for ha...

And people have the gall to say "it isn't like old school armored core"

quiet rivet Feb 5, 2024, 4:36 AM

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frank pivot Which helis?

The transports on the end, with 4 MTs each that fly from the direction of the city

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Unless idk, been killing Nile not fast enough

frank pivot Feb 5, 2024, 4:53 AM

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Oh yeah i have no clue where those ones spawn either! I've looked too

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If it's any consolation i don't think you need to look for them to S-rank it

quiet rivet Feb 5, 2024, 4:58 AM

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You don't, it's just easier to kill them before

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It's all about balance of bonus pay/ammo+rep costs

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If you are using double Scudder like my stupid ass on that mission, it's probably harder to s rank compared to taking idk, moonlight/ML-Redshift

serene kettle Feb 5, 2024, 5:07 AM

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something that lets you keep Nile's Attention while mopping up the MT adds will also help a lot with getting the high copter health benefit

eager vector Feb 5, 2024, 5:08 AM

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I usually just assault armor the mt adds

serene kettle Feb 5, 2024, 5:08 AM

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That works too

quiet rivet Feb 5, 2024, 6:19 AM

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I just got accurate and fast enough to do it, because already got the S

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Still, BAWS Arsenal can go fuck itself

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Now I guess I can haunt the multiplayer or something

soft ermine Feb 5, 2024, 6:22 AM

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did you find the hidden unit on the right?

quiet rivet Feb 5, 2024, 6:36 AM

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Yeah

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I probably don't have all the lore logs but hunting them seems like a massive pain

soft ermine Feb 5, 2024, 6:36 AM

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they arent requried nor are they noted anywhere

quiet rivet Feb 5, 2024, 6:40 AM

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Pretty much, yeah

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Apparently getting 50 gives you an emblem, at least according to wikis but like

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Weh, whatever

river junco Feb 5, 2024, 7:39 AM

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I kinda wanna put together like

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A comprehensive setting guide for rubicon sometime

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Taking all the canon info and extrapolating the rest

quiet rivet Feb 5, 2024, 8:19 AM

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Shit's fucked.

frank pivot Feb 5, 2024, 10:03 AM

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quiet rivet Apparently getting 50 gives you an emblem, at least according to wikis but like

19 short of greatness 😔

final monolith Feb 5, 2024, 2:18 PM

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polar osprey i want double melee

one pilebunker in each arm

wooden nimbus Feb 5, 2024, 2:54 PM

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Double melees would be a great excuse for weapon arms too

polar osprey Feb 5, 2024, 2:54 PM

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Yes

iron quarry Feb 5, 2024, 4:55 PM

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wooden nimbus Double melees would be a great excuse for weapon arms too

We need to take away the two weapon limit as well so I can carry four fucking pile bunkers

frank pivot Feb 5, 2024, 5:48 PM

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XD man i was legit hoping there wouldn't be any weapons available for both arms

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Though i did want right and left hand melee

serene kettle Feb 5, 2024, 5:51 PM

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the very specific left hand melee thing is a lovely throwback to AC1

iron quarry Feb 5, 2024, 7:08 PM

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Fuckin just

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quiet rivet Feb 5, 2024, 8:34 PM

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I did it

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idk why tho

frank pivot Feb 5, 2024, 8:49 PM

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I wonder if i have that one

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99% sure i got it

eager vector Feb 5, 2024, 9:53 PM

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oooh

frank pivot Feb 5, 2024, 11:14 PM

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I haven't used moonlight or redshift in ages lol

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I think if they got a buff i'd want their light attacks to not stance bipeds

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Maybe reduce their damage because of that

frank pivot Feb 6, 2024, 9:50 AM

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New patch

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Lots of changes. P10SLT nerfed but that's just gonna make auroras bad again

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Vientos appear changed

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Someone said zimms nerfed again lol

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Minor to moderate buffs to midweight parts in AP

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And weight

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VE-21B fcs is the new hotness tho

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36/78/92 or something

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Spicy

frank pivot Feb 6, 2024, 10:15 AM

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https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/armored-core/news/armored-core-vi-fires-of-rubicon-patch-notes-106?utm_source=SM_Official&utm_medium=official_post&utm_campaign=ArmoredCoreVI_PatchNotes_106

Bandai Namco Europe

ARMORED CORE VI FIRES OF RUBICON - Patch Notes 1.06

ARMORED CORE VI FIRES OF RUBICON - Update distribution notice 1.06 A new patch has been distributed to adjust game balance and and apply bug fixes. Please apply the latest patch before playing the game. Targeted Platforms PlayStation 4 / PlayStation 5 / Xbox One / Xbox Series X|S / Steam

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 10:28 AM

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some parts i use got affected

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particularly melander heads and spring chicken legs

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yeah VE-21B looking kinda good

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not for my build

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since i stay at close/mid range

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but uh, for other builds i can see why it would be good as hell

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need to try out the updated Attache and Etsujin for Ruber though

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if they feel better i will consider switching fron Ludlows

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idk if anyone actually builds with purely stats but i personally like to get a good feel for weapons

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how they feel for my build is just as important as what kind of stats they have imo

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ok tried out Etsujin

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kinda like that

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they tweaked the damage to be a bit higher and added more ammo for mag and total as well as projectile speed

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using using Locksmith and Nightfall as my test AC's since they are quick to fight against

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i'm kinda liking dual etsujin

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gonna need to do some more tests comparing it with ludlows

frank pivot Feb 6, 2024, 10:49 AM

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Ve-20b dual melee with moonlight is poggers

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 10:50 AM

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yeah Attache didn't quite do as well against Locksmith as it did Nighfall

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Etsujin and Ludlow are a bit more consistent across the board

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 10:55 AM

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frank pivot Ve-20b dual melee with moonlight is poggers

what does it do that pairs it well with moonlight?

frank pivot Feb 6, 2024, 10:57 AM

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Moonlight now scales with energy firearm spec

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😄

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 11:01 AM

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ooooh

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yeah

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that'd do it!

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trying out Etsujin a bit and it's working

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doing quite good honestly

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might switch from Ludlows

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thinking i might try playing some PvP soon

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absolutely going to get trounced but i think it could be interesting to try

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plus i've optimized Ruber a lot by now so it's a lot better than it was when i made it first

cursive agate Feb 6, 2024, 11:17 AM

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VP-20D generator buff (the really heavy Arquebus one) is eye-catching. Buffed EN Capacity, and EN Firearm Spec.
It's a nice alternative to NGI 000 at the cost of weight.

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 11:29 AM

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added some warning signs to Ruber

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had an idea of making them be hidden under some of the coral color splashed onto its body

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you can see the shoulders both have warning labels but the coral stain covers one of them

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 12:13 PM

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trying the escort mission again(fuck you escort mission) and i think i just need to kill the AC quickly enough at the end

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going to need to use a double melee build to instakill him :/

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kinda want to try using the pilebunker lance combo

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but pilebunker is pretty much my least favourite weapon in the game due to its pathetic range

eager vector Feb 6, 2024, 12:20 PM

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you could try the twinblade instead

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pb has my whole heart but I get why folks might not like it

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Or you could try Basho VE-B moonlight

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moonlight benefits from generator en spec now

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the bonus stacks with arm melee spec

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 12:26 PM

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the biggest fucking pain in the ass for this mission is you can't speed run it

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mainly why i absolutely despise it

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you have to do the whole thing every time

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didn't manage to instakill nile but i killed him quick enough

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there we go

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now i never need to do that mission again

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lovely

crude vessel Feb 6, 2024, 12:43 PM

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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1888160/view/4016716468489779702?l=english

ARMORED CORE™ VI FIRES OF RUBICON™ - Patch Notes Version 1.06 - Ste...

ARMORED CORE™ VI FIRES OF RUBICON™ update 1.06 is now available. A new patch (1.06) has been distributed to adjust game balance and and apply bug fixes. Please apply the latest patch before playing the game. MAJOR ITEMS INCLUDED IN THE LATEST UPDATE Balance Adjustments Weapon Units STUN BATON “VP-67EB” : increased Attack Power / Chg. Attack Powe...

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 12:47 PM

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saw that earlier

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actually ended up switching my main weapons from dual Ludlows to dual Etsujin

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the update made them feel a bit nicer to use

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oh gods, next mission on the list is Baws Arsenal 💀

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 1:04 PM

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i think if any mission is going to make me quit trying to S-rank all missions, it'll probably be this one

quiet rivet Feb 6, 2024, 1:09 PM

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Pulse Blade and chapter 1 bazooka
Don't get hit
Get the bubble breaker expansion

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Should make this mission easier due to low ammo costs

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2 swings and bazooka shot kills the snipers

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 1:12 PM

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don't get hit is the absolute worst part of this mission for me

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it's stupid

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this is by far my least favourite mission in the game and one of the only ones i would consider to be actually bad

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going to play some other mission

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too annoyed

quasi copper Feb 6, 2024, 1:23 PM

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you can take a hit or two during BAWS Arsenal without losing the S-rank ime

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you just have to go stupid fast

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 1:23 PM

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i see

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well

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i will try it again another time

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way too pissed off about it rn

nocturne tree Feb 6, 2024, 1:25 PM

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Ah, it was by our sides all along
Our true mentor, our guiding moonlight

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LIGHT WAVE BLADE “IA-C01W2: MOONLIGHT”: Energy Firearm Spec. scaling now applies

quasi copper Feb 6, 2024, 1:27 PM

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polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 1:44 PM

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34 missions left

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25 completed

keen hedge Feb 6, 2024, 1:51 PM

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DETONATING MISSILE LAUNCHER “45-091 JVLN BETA”: decreased Blast Radius. Each missile fired now follows the same guidance angle

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Well, potentially RIP

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 2:13 PM

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also idk why but it struck me not so long ago that AC6 weapon reloads are basically magic

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cause the mags just spawn from nowhere on conventional weaponry

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at least from what i've seen

wooden nimbus Feb 6, 2024, 2:15 PM

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HEAVY MACHINE GUN “WR-0555 ATTACHE” : increased Direct Hit Adjustment / Projectile Speed
REVERSE JOINT [All of them!] : increased AP / Attitude Stability, decreased Weight
:)

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 2:16 PM

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what is attitude stability anyway

wooden nimbus Feb 6, 2024, 2:17 PM

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Unless I have been stupid this entire time (entirely possible) it's how much stagger they have to do to you before you go bzzzrt and stop moving

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 2:18 PM

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ahhhh

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that makes sense

wooden nimbus Feb 6, 2024, 2:18 PM

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Which RJ has been the worst at in a game where staggering is pretty much king

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 2:19 PM

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yeah

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as a RJ user, this is a positive change

wooden nimbus Feb 6, 2024, 2:21 PM

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It felt more fair when our jumps and kicks were stronger but after "take off AB and kick the life out of them" as a tactic got targeted by the nerf bat

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The AP/AS boost will be nice

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 2:21 PM

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ye

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ngl i have yet to interact with PvP at all

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and i don't think Ruber is going to be a uh... particularly strong PvP AC either

wooden nimbus Feb 6, 2024, 2:23 PM

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I haven't done PVP in a while but I'll give it a try now that 1.06 is out

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See if LCB doesn't feel like there's a massive invisible death cone

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 2:23 PM

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LCB?

wooden nimbus Feb 6, 2024, 2:23 PM

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Laser Cannon, VE-60LCB

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 2:23 PM

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ahhh

wooden nimbus Feb 6, 2024, 2:24 PM

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Someone was using it in one of my PVP clips, I forget how long ago

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 2:25 PM

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this is Ruber currently

wooden nimbus Feb 6, 2024, 2:25 PM

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But even though the hit registration is mostly fine with their other weapons you can see how the LCB shot goes by me, misses, and I still get chipped pretty good.

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 2:25 PM

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switched from Ludlow to Etsujin with the new update

wooden nimbus Feb 6, 2024, 2:25 PM

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Etsujin is cool

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 2:27 PM

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ye

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fun guns

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thankfully they fit on Ruber

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since it has really tight tolerances compared to the original Pale Painter

wooden nimbus Feb 6, 2024, 2:52 PM

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TRAGIC: High speed collision in AC Training Facility

south oracle Feb 6, 2024, 4:35 PM

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Hm, since Moonlight got energy spec now, I wonder if this open up other energy melee for it too

eager vector Feb 6, 2024, 4:37 PM

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I think it’s an exception bc it’s both melee and ranged

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 4:40 PM

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the coral version of it didn't get it even i don't think

serene kettle Feb 6, 2024, 4:42 PM

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coral weapons don't get energy weapon spec in general

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 4:42 PM

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fair

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i didn't really think about that tbh

sharp canopy Feb 6, 2024, 4:54 PM

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I just had AC6 glitch out in the coolest way

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the ALLMIND fight forgot to get rid of Ayre and the sea spiders, which prompted a total shitshow in the arena. It was kind of awesome seeing that she stuck out for me, even if it was just a glitch

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 4:55 PM

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lmao

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nice

river junco Feb 6, 2024, 4:55 PM

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Was that a win run

sharp canopy Feb 6, 2024, 4:55 PM

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oh yes for certain

river junco Feb 6, 2024, 4:56 PM

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Also, bweh more patches
Are these multiplayer focused balancing patches do you think? I’m kinda miffed that like

sharp canopy Feb 6, 2024, 4:56 PM

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I wish there was an alt mission where ALLMIND kept their composure

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I wish to experience this more often, this ruled

river junco Feb 6, 2024, 4:56 PM

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They separated single player and multiplayer balancing in elden ring, it was universally enjoyed, and then they kinda just didn’t do that

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 4:57 PM

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as i understand it

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AC6 doesn't really have separate balancing?

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so probably not

river junco Feb 6, 2024, 4:57 PM

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Yeah sorry that’s what I meant

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Is they don’t

sharp canopy Feb 6, 2024, 4:57 PM

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I think AC games probably have SP as a sort of training environment for PVP

river junco Feb 6, 2024, 4:58 PM

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So I was wondering if people thought this patch was focused on the multiplayer environment

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 4:58 PM

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i haven't played a single match of PvP so idk how it's being affected

river junco Feb 6, 2024, 4:58 PM

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And really? I got the impression that the PVP was generally seen as like

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A cool side thing

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Rather than the main attraction of the series

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 4:58 PM

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i certainly didn't buy the game for PvP, i can tell you that much

sharp canopy Feb 6, 2024, 4:58 PM

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same here, I just play SP

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 4:59 PM

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though i don't really have an idea as to the general concensus

sharp canopy Feb 6, 2024, 4:59 PM

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oh also, this fight was anime as hell, I was running my usual ultralightweight AC

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 5:00 PM

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speeeeeeeeed

sharp canopy Feb 6, 2024, 5:00 PM

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don't know if ultra but it's mostly elcano parts, a biped, and has ransetsus

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 5:01 PM

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this is my Ultralightweight build

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Nuclear Whiplash

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i generally run a medium build though

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river junco Feb 6, 2024, 5:02 PM

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I’m too addicted to heavy weapons so light and ultralight are forever out of my reach

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 5:02 PM

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Same

river junco Feb 6, 2024, 5:03 PM

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Laser Lance my beloved

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Laser Lance + Pilebunker :3

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 5:05 PM

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Wait wait wait energy firearm spec now applies to Moonlight?

river junco Feb 6, 2024, 5:05 PM

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Yeah

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 5:05 PM

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Nice

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Oh shit Javelin Alpha buff too

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Huh, I didn't realize that these weapons with secondary explosions were cancelling the hit stun. Interesting change

river junco Feb 6, 2024, 5:07 PM

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Less spread on the LDC

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Also every time I see the therapist get a buff I’m like

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Maybe you’ll be good this time little buddy

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 5:08 PM

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...they nerfed pulse missiles? I thought those weren't particularly popular

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 5:08 PM

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river junco Also every time I see the therapist get a buff I’m like

Stun Baton got a buff too

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I kinda hope it gets to be good tbh

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Its cooling is so fast that it could be an alternative to weapon swapping for melee-focused builds

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Provided it's, you know, good

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Lammergier legs got a nerf aimed at hover speed and duration, no shock there

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Oh interesting, they buffed shock weapons but decreased the actual damage from shock

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 5:14 PM

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yup

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 5:16 PM

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"by god we will not have the ER bleed meta all over again"

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I guess that indirectly nerfs the stun guns while giving them more breathing room to buff the underused shock weapons

eager vector Feb 6, 2024, 6:29 PM

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paint job may not be final

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 7:10 PM

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Very nice

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Let us know how it performs

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I'm assuming that's a PVP build?

surreal vine Feb 6, 2024, 7:42 PM

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I have discovered that while not optimal, twin shoulder gatlings and a pair of the high ROF machine guns (not the Ludlows, the other ones) are hilarious to use on a lightweight

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Real bullet hose gameplay

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 7:42 PM

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tfw lots of bullets

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 7:43 PM

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surreal vine I have discovered that while not optimal, twin shoulder gatlings and a pair of t...

Chang Chen?

surreal vine Feb 6, 2024, 7:43 PM

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iirc yeah

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The Dafeng ones

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Not the hand miniguns

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 7:43 PM

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df-mg-02-chang-chen-arm-unit-armored-core-6-wiki-guide-257px.png

surreal vine Feb 6, 2024, 7:43 PM

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Yup

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 7:43 PM

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my old faves

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i used them on Pale Painter

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swapped them out for Pale Painter Ruber but i still love em

soft ermine Feb 6, 2024, 7:44 PM

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they buffed the attache ones

surreal vine Feb 6, 2024, 7:44 PM

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I have a lightweight I need to screencap once I get home that I use them on

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 7:45 PM

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this is my Pale Painter

surreal vine Feb 6, 2024, 7:45 PM

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Also twin linear rifles is fun; IMO people sleep on the Harris

polar osprey Feb 6, 2024, 7:45 PM

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though i usually tend to use the 4 missiles, not the 6 ones

eager vector Feb 6, 2024, 8:32 PM

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radiant birch Let us know how it performs

It’s significantly better if I swap the legs to Firmeza haha

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 8:55 PM

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eager vector It’s significantly better if I swap the legs to Firmeza haha

Guess those nerfs and buffs did some work then

eager vector Feb 6, 2024, 8:56 PM

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nah I mean the berf to lamm speed wasn’t huge, this would’ve been true yesterday too

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lamm is just not as good for a double melee shotgun LW as a biped is

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 8:56 PM

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Actually I kinda wonder if there's a relationship between buffing Moonlight and buffing jump height on a bunch of bipedals--charged Moonlight is very much an attack you need to jump over

surreal vine Feb 6, 2024, 8:57 PM

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I need to finalize a midweight biped or two, gotta break out of my perma-Lightweight era

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(going fast fun!!!)

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 8:59 PM

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nyoom

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I run a midweight build or two, but I find myself wondering whether it's technically more optimal to optimize for either evasion or tankiness rather than trying to split the difference

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But then, I suppose a lot depends on what you're comfortable piloting

serene kettle Feb 6, 2024, 9:14 PM

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iirc it is to a point, you either want to be under 75k or over 90k

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or something like that

surreal vine Feb 6, 2024, 9:19 PM

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I just want to have a solid "this could be the boxart machine from an older generation" build running that feels fun and honest, I guess

quiet rivet Feb 6, 2024, 9:20 PM

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river junco I’m too addicted to heavy weapons so light and ultralight are forever out of my ...

I packed two earshots on ultralight RJ

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You can too!

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Actually, I have to check how the changes affect the build in practixe

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 9:33 PM

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serene kettle iirc it is to a point, you either want to be under 75k or over 90k

Yeah iirc on the speed graph there's a zone between 75k - 80k where the speed loss from weight is so steep that you really want to be on one side or the other of it

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But I'm running a midweight (72k) build that I sometimes wonder if it might perform better as a missile rat

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That'd probably prohibit me from running Javelin Alpha on it though, and I love that thing

serene kettle Feb 6, 2024, 9:36 PM

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Javelin Alpha just got buffed and this pleases me

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(a few bazookas/nade launchers were but that one's my favorite so nyeh.)

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 9:37 PM

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I already liked it because of its incredible direct hit adjustment, I'm not at all adverse to it getting better

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Was also getting decent at tagging non-staggered opponents with it

serene kettle Feb 6, 2024, 9:38 PM

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Yeah, and it has pretty great base stagger on impact too

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and if that hit staggers, the explosion gets the direct hit

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 9:38 PM

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That is very sexy of it tbh

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I should jump in again and give that build another go

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See if any new options have opened up now that the Alpha is lighter

serene kettle Feb 6, 2024, 9:40 PM

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I have a build with JVLN-A and a Pulse Blade that exists to make my friends panic the moment there's a stagger.

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tfw all your hp is gone at once

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 9:44 PM

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Hmmm...

soft ermine Feb 6, 2024, 9:44 PM

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javln a was core in my build

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 9:44 PM

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Oh damnit I'm having build ideas again

eager vector Feb 6, 2024, 9:45 PM

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serene kettle Javelin Alpha just got buffed and this pleases me

I love that gun but I suck at using it

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I really wanna run it on Lamm

soft ermine Feb 6, 2024, 9:46 PM

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a good way to use it is to pair it with a fast weapon

surreal vine Feb 6, 2024, 9:47 PM

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Lamm head on Firmeza core is really cool imo

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Blends in almost perfectly

soft ermine Feb 6, 2024, 9:48 PM

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I also realized that my style of play is probally due to playing custom robo too much

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 9:48 PM

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radiant birch See if any new options have opened up now that the Alpha is lighter

Oh, the VP-422 legs got an AP buff too. I wonder, if I swapped out the core to make it even tankier...

serene kettle Feb 6, 2024, 9:48 PM

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VP-40D also got a buff, and I'm curious by how much because that was already one of my most-used generators

frank pivot Feb 6, 2024, 9:53 PM

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this combo works with ve-20b moonlight now haha

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when i get on tonight i'll record it

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but i made a build with ve-20b based around melee comboing

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you can also try to land charged moonlight with ve-20b

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which is now ridiculous if you can land it

eager vector Feb 6, 2024, 9:58 PM

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soft ermine a good way to use it is to pair it with a fast weapon

You don’t save it just for stagger punish right?

soft ermine Feb 6, 2024, 10:01 PM

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its often what causes the stagger for me

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i keep my melee and javlin on the same side

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and just swap

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 10:07 PM

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I'll save it for stagger punish if the opponent's nearly staggered, but if they've still got a ways to go I'll try and pop them with it to get a chunk of impact buildup

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Landing bazooka hits on unstaggered opponents takes timing and a bit of luck, but it's so satisfying when it happens

eager vector Feb 6, 2024, 10:15 PM

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soft ermine i keep my melee and javlin on the same side

I feel like it’d be more efficient to swap the javelin for a pressure weapon that has uptime that lasts for the javelin’s reload time, right?

radiant birch Feb 6, 2024, 10:16 PM

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Depends

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I keep three pressure weapons (a rifle and two missiles) in my other three slots and use the Javelin for either burst impact or stagger punish as applicable

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I find it handy to equip weapons that can cover multiple roles--rifles that can do pressure and stagger punish, bazookas that can do burst impact and stagger punish, that sort of thing

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The less strict your combat rotation is the less likely it is to get fucked up

eager vector Feb 6, 2024, 10:33 PM

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gotcha!

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hmmm

frank pivot Feb 6, 2024, 11:35 PM

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📎 106CHANGES.pages

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Here's all the numbers

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Stolen from main AC discord

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Vientos nerfed is gonna make LWs a lot less good

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Wait those nerfs are tiny

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Hm

eager vector Feb 6, 2024, 11:43 PM

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how do open this

surreal vine Feb 7, 2024, 12:05 AM

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frank pivot Vientos nerfed is gonna make LWs a lot less good

LWs still have other options

#Armored Core General!