Armored Core General!

[frank pivot]

no stun needle

phase 1 and 2 are easy and phase 3 i just need a little more practice and aggression vs

i was actually surprised how relaxing it was

[frank pivot]

Okay, if we get a DLC and it has bosses, I found the perfect track for a 2-phase boss if i can get the timing to line up

https://youtu.be/JPxfAYYo7NA?si=dcC7ICu-uAJY6uyH

2:57 has the drop, then you've got about a minute and a half afterwards

I feel like it could also be good for the ayre fight

[frank pivot]

Does any NPC besides Raven, Carla, or Chatty use RaD parts? Coldcall uses some, right?

Oh right obviously brute and rummy

So coldcall is the only other person besides the RaD members to use RaD frame parts

[wooden nimbus]

I grow more fond of this fight as a build test lately

[karmic galleon]

friday in california?

[wooden nimbus]

Oh right how foolish of me

SHOOT

[karmic galleon]

damn is that duxleys and minigun?

[wooden nimbus]

Monohux Mini, I use the 6pod and redshift to mix it up

Direct fire missiles make decent harassments without long reloads or locks, I mostly use them right as I go in for an assault kick since if they dodge one they ain't dodging the other.

Redshift being good for, well, what you expect a redshift to be good at

For the blorbo creating goons: If the Arena had over-the-top intros and character themes, consider what your 621 would have.

(I say it because I am thinking about it)

[iron quarry]

Metal pipe falling sound effect

[fierce laurel]

Today is Friday in California! You can still post shooting Iguazu!

[frank pivot]

https://youtu.be/__OSyznVDOY?si=QcF2QCki3R0seDG7
I'd want my AC painted to look like the brass of a saxophone

It's a perfect song for action anyways

[frank pivot]

paintjob is WiP

but i've been having a blast with LW dual melee

[viral wyvern]

fit check

WE ALL FALL DOWN

[serene kettle]

Solid! I appreciate the AC4 ref too 😌

[ripe crow]

Is it just me, or do the Alba Legs hips look to wide for ANY of the cores, especially the lightweight ones?

Like sticking an EVA 01 torso on a Gundam hips.

[ashen monolith]

https://vxtwitter.com/CZYRD/status/1730878355313131994

[eager vector]

Try the mind beta core

[ripe crow]

Look at me, I'm a lightweight!

[eager vector]

lol yeah

[eager vector]

I think the mech aesthetic they’re trying to include with those legs is this one

[ripe crow]

That aestetic shouls have gone on heavier legs than Alba.

[eager vector]

agreed ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I’d like more aesthetic variety in general

give me my AC:SL garage depth

[frank pivot]

You know what aesthetic i would love to see in ac6? 86

I love my dirty little spider cannon gremlin deathtraps

[shut sequoia]

I love how they animated them walking around

contraption (affectionate)

[ripe crow]

Isnt that an RAD MT?

[frank pivot]

RIGHT?
But it's way less industrial sadly

Just as messy and dirty tho

[ripe crow]

Took me this long to grab a screenshot

[frank pivot]

That's a mining rig

Way different

Especially in the movement

[ripe crow]

Honest Bruit's "traps"

[serene kettle]

Eliminate Honest Brute is probably my favorite mission tbh

it's just a fun one

[frank pivot]

Tbf just guessing by the mechs you're picking i don't think you watched 86

Don't get me wrong they're all great designs 😄

Just not the same aesthetic outside of "has spider legs"

[ripe crow]

sorry, you're right.

[frank pivot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyBuOD8UKTo

that is EXTREMELY clever lol

but like why are there SO many scrapped bashos down there

[iron quarry]

Lightweight quad with gun arms?

[frank pivot]

maybe. lw quad, large back cannon, sword arms?

[south oracle]

imagine those are ALL RLF ACs

you can't really sustain a planet-wide resistance movement with just 5 AC so I guess that makes sense

or who knows, those might be Basho AC still around from before the Fire, and RLF just salvages anything still usable

[frank pivot]

ehehehe

[eager vector]

Very large fighting forces are usually MTs. Even Arquebus is fielding tons of MTs and a small elite selection of ACs- if RLF had AC pilots in bulk they would’ve been able to clean house.

[frank pivot]

The RLF mt missile racks and cannons, slapped onto a Jailbreak? That'd be pretty formidable vs MTs

[sharp canopy]

two Huxleys, a Hu-Ben, and a Double Trouble combine to make a build I call "Walk up to them and shake their hand"

I even did this with ALLMIND, but have yet to repeat it. Unfortunately the final blow was made with the Hu-Ben instead of the comedy gold that is the chainsaw

[frank pivot]

I hope we get a "we call this one the Rubiconian Handshake" voice line in a sequel or dlc

[sharp canopy]

I had a little too much fun with giving people the Rubiconian Joy Buzzer treatment, sorry for the quantity

[patent oyster]

Oh hey, somewhere to post my virtual gunpla

Gundam F91

Zaku II Kai

[frank pivot]

I finally found a zaku design i like

The netflix zakus look sick

[quasi copper]

implying there’s such thing as a bad Zaku

[frank pivot]

I don't really like how goofy goufs and zakus look

In most of their depictions

It's partly why i never watched any old gundam stuff

[quasi copper]

Absolutely disgraceful

Shameful

You couldn’t waterboard that out of me

(Totally fair, I just giggle at the silly depictions tbh. Thunderbolt design versions are peak tho)

[frank pivot]

If the netflix One Year War show is good i might watch some of the older shows

https://youtu.be/Non9ACLmsbo?si=pXDH654bU34XV2Bl

HE DID IIIIIIT

[wooden nimbus]

based and loader4 pilled

I wish I was good enough to beat people in PVP with the default loader

[frank pivot]

It's simply unviable unless your opponents are very bad

P10 (booster) lacks the powerful QBs necessary to throw off targeting, and the energy reserves are very low

So you can't just get infinitely good at evading

The pulse blade is hard countered by shield parries

The turner is a bad weapon because it doesn't do good burst stagger or damage, and it is paired with an extremely poor fcs, further reducing its accuracy.

However

Especially vs lights you can win.

Because missiles + some turner -> pulseblade heavy attack out of assault boost = decent tracking and a lot of stagger

[eager vector]

It’d be fun to do like a Loader 5

upgrade as much as you can while still looking basically like loader 4

[quasi copper]

looking back at old AC chatter: damn, we prayed too hard for shotguns

[eager vector]

lol they used to be so bad

I prayed exactly the right amount for melee in general+pilebunker specifically

[wooden nimbus]

shotguns in everything before 6 is a joke

To greater and lesser degrees

Classic AC and AC2 machine guns that can be bought in the first couple missions, however 👀

Literally my first AC2 run I got the MG and then kept it until I found the Karasawa

[eager vector]

yuppp

[serene kettle]

yeah MG/SMG was pretty much what I ran in AC2 and 3 for a lot of missions

the smallest MG was definitely what I used for most of the arena fights - it has low ammo but really high DPS overall, and you don't have to pay for ammo or deal with an extended operation in arena fights

[surreal vine]

glad that RFs seem to be somewhat reasonable if not fun atm

heavy linear shot stunning into combos is nice

[serene kettle]

sorry, that gave me whiplash, are you talking about Ransetsu-RF or one of the linear rifles?

I didn't like the feel of the RF until I tried out double triggering them with alternating fire instead of firing them together

[surreal vine]

really any of the single-fire (primary fire being single shots) rifles imo

they have niches and power bands sure but feel reasonable atm

imo

(though the heavy linear is my current favorite for the high burst stagger opportunities it provides)

[keen hedge]

They have a little too much EN draw for my liking but that's the game I guess

[serene kettle]

Harris does wild damage/impact if you can land a charged shot yeah

and honestly pretty decent damage on regular shots too

[surreal vine]

ye

I've honestly fallen in love with the Harris / 6-cell missile (either dmg type) pod / EARSHOT / blade setup

it's a lil 'standard'-ish but just feels so versatile

[serene kettle]

that does sound highly versatile

I personally don't like four different weapons though, I only have so much brain to keep track of cooldowns, clip sizes, etc.

and manage that alongside boost meter and current stagger and my opponent's stagger bar...

[frank pivot]

have y'all tried dual LRA, dual redshift nebula?

this frame is very much campaign only

BUT

man is it fun

and it looks dope

[patent oyster]

Im pretty sure i saw this setup (with different body parts) in a tournament highlights video for a recent tournament

Absolutely melts everything if all its shots connect

[surreal tundra]

Funsies,
Also iunno if it's real or not but I spent like 30min trying to fight them and dying in my no-shop run with the Junk arms, Alba frame, linear and laser orbit plus pulse blade and HMMR/whip- but it got waaay easier when I swapped out for the Laser Drones(L) and the Javelin Beta- I think the Beta did a lot, I Vaguely remember someone saying it's basically a Songbird you don't have to stand still for and iunno but it does seem about right,

Maybe I was just picking sub-optimally when I used the Laser Orbit, ah well

[surreal tundra]

The hips don't lie XD

[surreal tundra]

Well- they could still have lots of AC pilots, Corp merc or independent or RLF-affiliated working for them, the wars for the Coral have lasted at least a few decades by now haven't they?

Or- might be misremembering

[surreal tundra]

Hmmm
I wonder if you could do that by swapping to either same "category" or "same aesthetic"?
Would swapping the pulse blade for the Coral oscillator/blade count as valid? Obvs trade-offs there and the Pulse Blade is an amazing weapon, but would that be technically valid? They just seem kinda similar, the massive Surging Coral Beam-blade aside, or maybe you could put that as an L-swap u less the left shoulder is off-limits,

[eager vector]

Yeah those are the kind of swaps I’m thinkin of

[surreal tundra]

Mrrew XD

Like, if the L-back is allowed- or if it's limited to "only weapons similar to what's already on the base loader4, could have pulse+Coral blades lmao,

Tho- hrm,

Turner,

What could you swap that with?

The missile launcher, would it have to be "only missile launchers" or "only direct fire missile launchers" or "Only explosive/not plasma missiles"?

[eager vector]

The important thing is that at a glance you still look like loader 4

so any L-back that looks vaguely similar to the basic missile launcher will do

less about function, more about form

[surreal tundra]

Mm mm, so- can't swap out the turner then? I honestly can't remember if any weapons look remotely similar...

Or- maybe I'm misremembering, cuz I haven't used Assault Rifles much,

So- maybe on the forward 3 launch plasma missiles?

[sharp canopy]

The chainsaw is somehow both the easiest weapon and most stroke-inducing weapon to get instakills with

I'm going to try and get photos with something else, my screenshots folder is filled with chainsaw photo finsihes now

[surreal tundra]

Oh- actually, maybe the Scudder?

[serene kettle]

relatable

it's very satisfying

I also beat the Watchpoint with my fist and chainsaw build

[south oracle]

another scale comparison https://www.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/18bih51/so_the_attack_copter_in_the_vis_prologue_is/?utm_source=embedv2&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_content=post_title

[river junco]

So fucking dumb

[wooden nimbus]

I love how horrifying the scale of ac6 is

The existential horror of the impossible standing before you and realizing it is not the alien technology of a reality warping god or completely incomprehensible intelligence but just mankind being allowed to get entirely out of hand

Knowing that you must embrace some element of that horror and risk losing some or all of your self inside it, embracing absurdity as the only way to impact the nightmare of where you stand, etc

Very fun

[sharp canopy]

isn't that basically just what a jet fighter is?

"Humans can't fly!"

[gets obliterated with a Tomahawk missile]

[wooden nimbus]

Yeah

But like

On a scale to us like a regular jet would be to someone hundreds of years ago

Hell you show a modern fighter jet to someone in 1870, much less explain its speed and armaments

[frank pivot]

@sharp canopy @wooden nimbus i think you two would really like sentou yousei yukikaze

https://tenor.com/view/戰鬥妖精雪風-雪風-super-sylph-yukikaze-戦闘妖精雪風-gif-27058558

It's an excellent anime about a weird future space war and a sentient fighter jet

[quasi copper]

Is that the “I have control” thing

[wooden nimbus]

That looks cool as shit

[frank pivot]

Yeah!

It's one of my favorite anime

[surreal tundra]

It's so so fun- I want them to go even further XDDD
Ayre crosses 1000m in under a second; at least 3600km/h, and Iguazu can dash ~500m in a half second or a tenth of one- nigh instantly; 18000km/h at the higher calc, the SOL and CEL can basically move like NEXTs, but it wouldn't be fair on us if they kept doing that I think lmao

[wooden nimbus]

Someone asks why we're making humanoid mecha instead of fighters and tanks and you just fire up the bumblebee speech before pointing them to your prototype that can accelerate at 60g

Entire justification for how shit works is a king crimson reaction face and a stern warning to not worry about it

[quasi gulch]

because mechs are rad as hell next question

[iron quarry]

When you have machines that can propel themselves at up to 400kph and have the ability to obliterate small armies the only question you should be asking is how to get one

[quasi gulch]

exactly

[frank pivot]

Walter's coral gen refills after 1.2 seconds of delay lol

If you've ever wondered

That's him at the very bottom

[south oracle]

jeez

[surreal tundra]

That is-
Wild,

Hang on did I not pay attention to that when I checked the values before? Lmao
A truly ridiculous generator lmao

[south oracle]

the power of being a Fromsoft boss

[ashen monolith]

ohhh

i knew that mf was cheating

[surreal vine]

Walter casually pulling NEXT-esque bs out his ass

[quasi copper]

and he's still a chump

[wooden nimbus]

Walter: "I am juiced and full of Arquebus bullshit"
621: "Cool, stunlock be upon ye"

[surreal tundra]

Also I completely forgot that the flamethrower deals chemical/explosive damage lmao, taking that out for the darn wheels and missiles

[serene kettle]

😤

[frank pivot]

https://youtu.be/N021d_np6g0?si=jhIGkz_GjQoE5H1s

Looks cool

Might be ccp spyware

Who knows

[eager vector]

ac6 best action game

[frank pivot]

It won??

Fuck yeahhhh

[eager vector]

shoulda been goty nominated but I’ll take it

[patent oyster]

Its online pvp + pve

[frank pivot]

Yeah! Up to 6-player teams

[patent oyster]

no way GunEvo replacement

[frank pivot]

oh gunevo is alive?

tbf

none of these are what i want

which is a MOBA with mechs

[patent oyster]

Not anymore if you dont count the private server project

[frank pivot]

if this is a high mobility game, that's gonna make a BR mode insane

probably not that fun

but nuts nonetheless

[south oracle]

Mecha Break looks good but it seems more like a hero shooter

[surreal tundra]

Oooooh are those Bit weapons?
I hope/wonder if there's good singleplayer/PvE

[surreal tundra]

Heck yeAaaaaah

[frank pivot]

6 player coop pve

[surreal tundra]

Uh huh,

[south oracle]

seems like BR and PVE

[wooden nimbus]

I don't know if I like MB's aesthetic/art direction so much but the gameplay (assuming it is accurate) looks fun if nothing else.

Been burned by early trailers too many times to be hype yet but I'll give it a try probably

[fierce laurel]

Today is Friday in California! Post shoote Iguazu!

[karmic galleon]

YES!

[wooden nimbus]

Someone needs to do that scene with the raven ac head and head bringer ac head posted over the actors faces

[crude vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJhFXfuBmeM

[chrome bronze]

NEW PARTS COMING

https://www.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/s/YY80Sfqiad

[ashen monolith]

https://www.future-press.com/acvi/updates/

[eager vector]

yoooooo

[serene kettle]

idk if I buy this

I'll believe it when it's announced

:squint:

"Just throw 60% of the whole ammo store into each barrage it's fine"

[surreal tundra]

Pffffft

These seem like fun, we'll just have to see I guess

[serene kettle]

there are some other things in the changes I'm squinting at, like Moonlight's charged impact getting nerfed by 75%, lower than both its uncharged impact and accumulative impact.

more very odd max lock counts

[eager vector]

lil salty about mind beta weighing 5k less than spring chicken while having 40 higher stability

[ashen monolith]

i'm more willing to believe the publisher fucked up on some numbers more than i do them modding in entirely new parts or doing a foolproof photoshop

[wooden nimbus]

Oh that's a big dip is usefulness for Buerzel

👀 back gatling tho

[south oracle]

Ohhhh new parts

But yeah, these numbers look funky, I will believe them when I see the patch note

Also it would definitely be very nice if Fromsoft keeps dripfeeding us with these micro part updates

[wooden nimbus]

I like the buffs they do, but I don't like the nerfs they implement.

Buerzel feels less like being put in its lane and more "we want you to stop using it" but that's also before trying it in the field

[cursive agate]

I've noticed Mind Beta has toned down jumping stats compared to the other 2 RJs in return, though Spring Chicken likely has a larger hitbox too.

[frank pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/fea-giant-rat-gif-25069354

The age of the lw alula rat is upon us

[wooden nimbus]

I will find a new way to kill rats

I will sneak into their homes and remap the reverse button to something impossible to use

[frank pivot]

Yeah i wish either the heavy legs had a little more stability or mind beta had higher load limit

1890 stab rj is really fun but the frame has incredibly low equip load to spare

Unless you run a bad generator

[iron quarry]

Homies were getting new parts

Big happy

I can finally live out my dreams as being a stick bug with a gun

[copper minnow]

Lightweight quadlegs, and shoulder gatlings!

[south oracle]

lightweight parts too, my favourite

[quasi copper]

helll yea

[cursive agate]

If the numbers are accurate, those parts have "just don't get hit" levels of defensive stats.
(Very light, but harsh EN Load in return)

[copper minnow]

Fuck it we boost type beat.

[south oracle]

also all the new weapon seems to somewhat heavy

aside from the pulse missile launcher which is justttt there

[wooden nimbus]

Those back gats are gonna be the death of me

[cursive agate]

I suspect they'll eat recoil like pulse cannons, but is really nice for freeing up arm options.

[wooden nimbus]

I am simply living in my four gatling era

BRRRRRRRRTmaxxing if you will

[fierce laurel]

My BRAIN OFF build is going to evolve magnificiently

[wooden nimbus]

My fellow no thoughts player

Together we will press dopamine button

Imagine going into a 3v3 and your whole team is just

The tankiest trio on Rubicon hitting one poor bastard with twelve gats

How do we convince fromsoft to add six player ffa

[halcyon gull]

petition's mostly

[wooden nimbus]

6FFA on that one really small map based on where you assassinate honest brute be like

[proven bison]

The new head they leaked looks suspiciously like the Raleigh head, or is it just me?

[tough fable]

Yeah it does look the part

[eager vector]

one of the core parts should have a cape

[serene kettle]

Simply reapply the Alter Armor feature from ER to be able to attach capes to any core part for a minor bump to defenses and weight

[eager vector]

yes

[wooden nimbus]

Into it

I'm trying to decipher what the schtick for the new laser cannon is

Is it just Big Laser

[surreal tundra]

with a lingering area/shot-?

so- hrm, not quite plasma is it?

[ashen monolith]

same heat buildup as the standard laser cannon, slightly slower rate of fire

pretty much big laser with an aoe reminiscent of how plasma worked in previous gens

its rapid fire stat is 0.5, meaning it's once every 2 seconds. you know what weapon has a 2 second reload time? zimmerman

[cursive agate]

I suspect it lays down a plasma line where the shot went, or something like the KRSV

[quasi copper]

Ohh, like the Arquebus Balteus plasma cloud cannons?

[cursive agate]

I'd suspect so

[frank pivot]

Me summoning the patch

(It is not me, my emblem is a parrot)

[frank pivot]

https://youtu.be/QH-H4BiegCo?si=N4x6ADy_IONd7b8w

[frank pivot]

https://youtu.be/BuFegU8lmXo?si=IucKS67tnlW-KM9h

[hollow ridge]

What are good thrusters for quads?

[frank pivot]

Buerzel, 12345 if you're pretty heavy, p04 if you're not

Buerzel lets you play conventionally

12345 and p04 both enable quickboost spam for very high speed long distance movement

[frank pivot]

The main thing i don't like about mecha break is that a lot of the mechs have gen 4 armored core syndrome

Where they all look like a confusing mass of angles

And so it all ends up looking samey

[wooden nimbus]

I just don't like hero shooters and I'm sad that it looks like this isn't going the

"assemble and customize from the ground up" route

Which is like the most fun part for me

[wooden nimbus]

Me politely asking where the patch is

[wooden nimbus]

I am no longer being polite

[quasi gulch]

pics that go hard as hell

[wooden nimbus]

I like screenshottin

[surreal tundra]

ooooh,
also lmao healers get a DoT

[frank pivot]

Is that a design no-no? 😄

[surreal tundra]

Naw, just that I can't escape being stuck with DoTs even outside of FF14 XD

*well there's more DoTs there than healers get in FF14 but still lmao

[quasi gulch]

good ol waltuh

[crude vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxonPyZkxWs @fallen harness

[sharp canopy]

Funny theory: Metal Wolf Chaos covers the National Dismantlement War era

I call this theory: Corporate Greed Ruins Yet Another Perfectly Good Setting

[frank pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/colinfurze-gaming-explosion-fireworks-water-splash-gif-26952937

Me when the armored core 6 co-op mod enables invasions and a top player shows up to canonically end my run

[copper minnow]

Call it karma for the all times you killed the tester pilot

[south oracle]

It's just Sulla being Sulla

[wooden nimbus]

Player invasions in AC would be wild NGL

[shut sequoia]

it would also make going for S ranks hell

[copper minnow]

If it would be anything like any of the souls games it'd be full of assholes hanging around in low level missions trying to gank new players

[wooden nimbus]

I think it would need to be like

Pre-set parts of specific missions that allowed it

Like you'd enter an invasion queue then there'd be points people could get where it's like "Wait, someone's approaching" and then a scene of your AC popping in before the fight happens

Think like Sulla's fight or Iguazu minus the AM ghosts interrupting

[summer trellis]

sulla + et = sulleta

wait it's suletta

fuck

[surreal tundra]

lmao

Probs the wrong weapons anyways

Tho- I guess she'd probs get used to them eventually

[summer trellis]

t o m a t o

[surreal tundra]

y a m e n a s a i

XD

[wooden nimbus]

Testing some stuff

[frank pivot]

ve-20c dual LRA is pretty good

[wooden nimbus]

It feels like I'm in a Gundam ngl

[frank pivot]

i really like VE-20C with LRA, drones, missiles, and some form of melee

i watched Gundam Thunderbolt recently, and now i hope the next gundam season is more like that haha

i either really hope if they touch a school setting again they either lean allllll the way into it

or it's a bait and switch

i think this is the nicest loader 4 paintjob i've ever done

[wooden nimbus]

oiooh

[wooden nimbus]

yee

[wooden nimbus]

I am, once again cursed by not having a song that fits a fight vid

[wooden nimbus]

I don't know who this person was but they were very fun to test it with

[serene kettle]

God, I always love to see a perfect PA/AA counter like that

[wooden nimbus]

I think both of us were being a little more showy/playing for spectacle but honestly

Fights look better when you do, at that point doesn't matter if you win or lose

But yeah one of my greatest skills is refusing to allow my opponent to have PA

[final monolith]

Aorta flight builds are kind of funny

[frank pivot]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2003694352

finally 😄

[urban knoll]

I like this loadout for Hundred Blossoms. Was fighting against a guy using 2x Vientos + 2x Huxleys

[wooden nimbus]

Oh that's neat

[frank pivot]

Is flatwell's emblem a bird because giving someone the middle finger is flipping them the bird

[serene kettle]

...

[quasi copper]

AC pilot liquor holding tierlist

I like the idea that Iggy‘s the type to face any inconvenience and go “I need a drink” about it, it seems in character for him

Carla would hand Raven a glass of vodka and tell them that it’s just water, tourist

[serene kettle]

some strong sort of water

[frank pivot]

Freddie's in love with a man who has a wife, no way he's"refuse to drink" lol

[quasi copper]

I thought Dolmayan's down a wife since the Fires

[surreal tundra]

what if they made the SOLs and HAL as reactive/input reading as CEL240? XD

or at least, I wanna fight that lmao

[frank pivot]

Waltuh input reads like all NPC armored cores 😄

[surreal tundra]

oooh, really? I guess I just haven't noticed cuz he doesn't feel as hard as CEL-240 or the others by that point,

[iron quarry]

I think raven would be on the hasn’t tried it tier

[quasi copper]

I didn’t make the tierlist to be clear

[iron quarry]

Ahh

[frank pivot]

Yeah! All enemies input read. The easiest example is the MTs that come in at ground level during Coral Export Denial

[serene kettle]

CEL feels like it input reads more than most, mostly because it has fewer attacks that it truly locks into and it retains mobility during many of its attacks though

it's not actually input reading more/better it's just way more mobile

[keen hedge]

||Also if any from software boss is going to he reading inputs, sure, the ones controlled by Psychic Fog||

[fierce laurel]

Carla could drink McDonalds Sprite neat

[frank pivot]

Discord mobile pls

[hollow ridge]

wheres the fucking patch fromsoft

[wooden nimbus]

There was an attempt (somehow this counted as S-Rank)

[serene kettle]

it's one of those missions with very lax S-ranks

it's not a boss per se but it's kind of a boss mission

also your damage taken was pretty good really even if you didn't get the most efficient possible kills on the first two

[wooden nimbus]

It was fun

[frank pivot]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2004070833

Enforcer!

If you want to hear me bitch nonstop lol

I'm getting to phase 3 of allmind pretty regularly with ~8000 AP and a spare repair kit

I think now i need to seriously sit down and study the phase 3 moveset and learn the punish windows

I think i have pretty much all the hard loader 4 fights saved on twitch now, except for smallmind

[summer trellis]

ooh yeah i beat enforcer using twin pistols and earshots before iirc

i optimized that weight hard

[iron quarry]

I fucking can’t

This shit killed me

[copper minnow]

Goes so hard.

[iron quarry]

BRO WHAT

[quasi copper]

That’s the original image lmao

[copper minnow]

PICS THAT GO HARD

[frank pivot]

haha, i WISH the starter AC had pistols and earshots

[summer trellis]

i wish lmao

[surreal tundra]

Ah, makes sense,

[surreal tundra]

Mm mm,

Hm,

I hope the AI/whatever makes them attack faster gets cracked

I wanna see how hard it can really get lmao

[urban knoll]

Easiest example is when you try to melee Nightfall and he just pilebunks you perfectly

Happened to me so many times when I was testing melee builds

[final monolith]

the good old Rubicon handshake

[ashen monolith]

oh hey

fun to see this end up back here

i drew the armored core sweep image. my biggest regret is not watermarking

sometimes i get like 10 followers on twitter when ac6 news sees it reposted again

[fierce laurel]

Today is Friday in California! Post shooteing Iguazu!

[wooden nimbus]

Iguazu tribute complete

[surreal vine]

is it just me or do the shoulder pulse cannons just suck completely

heck, all the pulse guns in general

seems like they just aren't as good as the pulse guns on the HCs or other NPC units

[serene kettle]

I'm not a huge fan of the pulse guns but they can do some spooky damage in the right setup

I do like the Pulse Field Thrower and think people sleep on it a bit though

Killing Fields has done pretty well in casual pvp with my friends (distinguished from online pvp with tryhards and people who actually know the meta)

[cursive agate]

Handheld pulse guns shred pretty hard but are held back by awful Impact output outside of Pulse Shields (bubble and shoulder type).

Pulse Shoulder can rip harder but is even more of a hassle to manage

Very important to note the 4-panel Pulse Gun needs Recoil Control because it's got Gatling RoF + Recoil with faster overheat.

Shoulder pulse might need it too since it seems affected by spread (visibly) unlike most other shoulder weapons.

[surreal vine]

my main concern was trying to make an attempt at mimicry of the Heavy Cavalry unit loadout from the spaceport assault fight (the pictured unit) with twin pulse cannons and a energy handheld + melee

but it just seems like shoulder pulse cannons are just
anemic due to their overheat

[frank pivot]

They do quite good damage, but you'll probably want to run VE-20C for the extra 14% damage

They're kinda like bad flamethrowers

[surreal vine]

Made a (rough) NEXT Supplice cosplay build, given how it's (understandably) quite fast it's a lot of fun

[wooden nimbus]

oh nice

[serene kettle]

Supplice is a cool choice

Berlioz is unspeakably cool so...fair

[fierce laurel]

playing around with a slightly different than my usual build and snagged some good screens

[fierce laurel]

https://bsky.app/profile/nocontexttrek1.bsky.social/post/3kgoaq3xqot2g a day late but you get the idea

[wet shard]

speaking of everyone’s least favourite iguana

[lethal flame]

https://youtu.be/6jQkxsEbnS4?si=ff8x3qu4HI2vXHhQ

Same energy

[wet shard]

this but it's iguazu playing mechanised memories from ACVD

or dirty worker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p0G0twmo78

banger

[serene kettle]

snrk

needs to be the Fatman version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYWo84D2-L0

[serene kettle]

❤️ Pulse Blade

[frank pivot]

Ahem, it wasn't even supposed to be a meme

So besides the fact that a ton of these stats are in the wrong place

Which weapons are you most excited for?

I want to try the gatling back cannons, they just seem wonderful fun

Dual gats with a sword

[twin moss]

Destroying the coral transport mission has me acting some way

That some way is raging

I completed it but damn did I want to throttle ALLMIND more than usual

[wooden nimbus]

GATS

[ashen monolith]

surprisingly enough, it's the attaché i'm most excited for

it seems... alright on the probably not final stats but i have a build that's got weight to spare and has a ludlow on the offhand so it'd fit perfectly

[twin moss]

acquires Ayre’s Emblem
proceeds to slap it all over the core of her AC

[copper minnow]

Gatling. Rubicon: Become CIWS.

[twin moss]

Now let’s see, will I got three for three on kicking Arquebus’s ass or will I take a break and cave Balam’s/Michigan’s head in?

Oh noooo there’s a third option

I don’t like ALLMIND but I feel I need to do it

Damn I will have to do

[south oracle]

I want the laser cannon, gotta get big pew pew

[shut sequoia]

I'm curious about the function of pulse missiles

[summer trellis]

The new tetrapod, and the gats

Love the rear mounted gargling and RAD’s stuff in general

I’m definitely gonna pick up AC6 again once it comes out

[surreal tundra]

hrm,
besides the anti-pulse function-
Wait, huh,
burst fire mode if you charge it?
lock in 0.2, charge in 0.5 for 0.7-
can fire while in AB,

I can't tell with how the damage output and how the radius compares to, say, the plasma missiles,

it might make for a nice alternative to the plasma missiles,
and you do get over 210 rounds,,,

[surreal tundra]

I wonder how long the damage trail lasts and how practical it'll be?
Not sure if the burst is better than the laser spreadshot or the laser cannon- but I think the cannon's still got better ammo at like 40-50 lmao, unless that got changed

[wooden nimbus]

I've been tweaking the new build's decals

Gotta keep on brand with the colors and themes tho.

[queen willow]

https://vxtwitter.com/robophiIia/status/1736467450487578838

ho ho.

[wooden nimbus]

Got a job for you, 621. Our client is from the Claus Corporation

Their high speed orbital transport craft, "Santa's Sleigh", is in need of an escort through Arquebus territory. They've deployed an intense cloud of ECM fog, and you need to light the way.

[final monolith]

Science Project

(siding with Ayre on first playthrough)

[wooden nimbus]

Oooh

[urban knoll]

https://youtu.be/X1dgCe1jDYg?si=_9geZI3LQnVCdZxE

Oh boy

[cursive agate]

Good lord that core isn't armored at all

[ashen monolith]

https://fxtwitter.com/armoredcore/status/1736751513731571752

AH

I'M LATE

[urban knoll]

Y'all have fun with the update. Am overseas till next year. But I will come like the corporations coming to Rubicon

[ashen monolith]

https://www.bandainamcoent.com/news/armored-core-vi-fires-of-rubicon-patch-notes-v-1-05

patch notes are up as well

[keen hedge]

ACs with Tank legs will now perform a “readying” action at the moment of firing bazookas or grenade launchers
ACs with Bipedal, Reverse Joint or Tetrapod legs now have a longer period after performing a Boost Kick before being able to cancel into another action
ACs with Tetrapod legs now have reduced movement due to recoil when firing a weapon with high recoil while in mid-air

hm

[cursive agate]

ACs with Tetrapod legs now have reduced movement due to recoil when firing a weapon with high recoil while in mid-air
Very nice change, heavier weapons like bazookas sent you flying backwards while mid-air on Tetrapod.

[keen hedge]

Oh OHHH. I interpreted it backward

Was like 'wasn't that one of the main selling points of those legs'

[halcyon gull]

so that means you can't melee boost cancel as consistently no more?

[ashen monolith]

i was right, the incorrect stat from the book was guidance

plasma missile nerf is completely understandable given it was the most used weapon last ac6 tournament

[keen hedge]

Wanna see how those splitmissiles work now, always loved them thematically

[ashen monolith]

majestic nerf is appreciated but they did NOT need to get my bro little gem in the crossfire

[crude vessel]

https://youtu.be/DjhtdN2UQmk

[frank pivot]

pogging irl

[final monolith]

I await the quad gatling build

[cursive agate]

I'll probably give the light tetra legs a shot, since the Arquebus ones are still on the heavier side.

[ashen monolith]

i can't wait 1 day for the legs i need them now

[eager vector]

light quad is v exciting

[south oracle]

TOMORROW??

wait hold on what timezone is this

is this tomorrow or in 2 days?

aaaaa, all the bazooka got reduced AOE, it's all just gonna be direct hit now?

[halcyon gull]

we don't have numbers yet, but it's on tuesday

[surreal tundra]

I think it's more boost kicks than melee cncel?

[halcyon gull]

hmmm okay aslong as that stays.
I got pretty capable at the melee boost cancel and used it to basically do 180's

[ashen monolith]

TOMORROW

[south oracle]

this is probably based on japanese timezone so

TOMORROW

[surreal tundra]

I don't think they can or would remove that anyways since it's part of the skill ceilling/just animation cancelling? Iunno,

[halcyon gull]

If they think it's not intended/wanted they can just remove it since it is a bit of a weird bug/animation thing.

or make it so when you do melee attacks, you have to finish the animation.

[surreal tundra]

doesn't it basically exist in the Soulsborne games tho?

[halcyon gull]

not intended to

they've been actively trying to patch that out but glitch hunters have been finding new ways to get it working

[surreal tundra]

yeah, but they'd know what people are doing by now at least-
And playtesting must have caught that

[surreal tundra]

what, rolling to cancel a risky attack/feint?

[halcyon gull]

Yeah.

[south oracle]

wait is this the first time the patch note came out before the patch?

lmao

[cursive agate]

Definitely to reduce boost kick spam/abuse.

[surreal tundra]

wild, if so
and annoying/silly for what's supposed to be a high-speed action mecha game

[halcyon gull]

If they do remove it, yeah it nerfs melee hard for the lack of just...seriously good chase speed

[cursive agate]

(for reference) https://www.bandainamcoent.com/news/armored-core-vi-fires-of-rubicon-patch-notes-v-1-05

ACs with Bipedal, Reverse Joint or Tetrapod legs now have a longer period after performing a Boost Kick before being able to cancel into another action

[surreal tundra]

basically-
kick if you can hit or if it's just part of the combo/end of it, rather than the whole thing?
Is boost kick abuse just- kick, kick, kick?

[halcyon gull]

yes

It's super abuseable on RJL's

[surreal tundra]

Huh,

so everyone else with legs got hit with it too?

[halcyon gull]

If you have legs, you can't as aggressively spam it

[south oracle]

such a big update, I think the ranked stuff means that it's very likely that there's gonna be big update like this in the future

I'm pretty excited

[viral wyvern]

this is, indeed, a pretty huge w

I hope this keeps going for a little while. some regular new parts would really spice up the meta

[wooden nimbus]

I will be the strongest D-rank

[swift nacelle]

is the new ranked matchmaking update gonna add new parts?

I thought I saw some unfamiliar parts in the trailer

[wooden nimbus]

There's a new frame and four new weapons to my knowledge

[keen garden]

Hey quick question are the Moonlight greatsword and red shift version affected by the arms

[cursive agate]

Pretty sure Moonlight/Redshift still count for Melee Spec

Could try it out in the test area

[frank pivot]

i am so pumped for ranked

i want to see where i end up on the ladder

prolly not very high tbf

[eager vector]

same

the hassle of making/searching for rooms is just enough of a barrier that it’s hard for me to play casually atm

I’m v excited for a system where I can just queue up and get matched against other low ranks when I get smashed lol

[final monolith]

he was not Arquebus

||sorry dad||

on another note I really like how the HAL set looks

[frank pivot]

It's my favorite preset build to pvp in

Not as strong as chartreuse or rusty

Really fun tho

[serene kettle]

It doesn't shock me to hear that Rusty's build is pretty good, but I am a little surprised to hear Chartreuse is a high performer. I always found her easiest of the three in that one mission; I started going after her first because she was far less likely to survive long enough for help to show up than Aster King

[frank pivot]

Yeah, she can stay airborne and move quickly due to high assault boost speed, and then she has a bunch of very hard hitting weapons which she can use at full mobility 😄

[wooden nimbus]

I still think they did Nightfall dirty. I get you fight them after a 2v1 so they probably didn't wanna make them too OP for fólks but

Feels like "what if white glint was mid at best"

[swift nacelle]

anybody know where to find a list of good builds for PvP

[shell nymph]

in my experience yeah she was really easy to stun because she’s got no shield like King does

[serene kettle]

😌

here's Redfin oneshotting her

(more like one-barraging but you get the idea)

[shell nymph]

it’s beautiful

god i need to try out some other builds

i’m a slave to nacht core and legs, firmeza arms, kasuar head, and dual zimms + truenos

with the missile lock time fcs, hokushi, and the one fast base speed booster i just run around really really fast

[summer trellis]

https://www.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/18la6rd/comment/kdx8lg9/

fyi since the patches got taken down

[shell nymph]

oh shit is it out?

[halcyon gull]

Not yet, that's tomorrow

[wet shard]

maybe i have a reason to go back and do NG+ now

[serene kettle]

the fact that NG+ has new missions and more endings isn't enough? 😛

[surreal tundra]

They should be, yeah

At least IIRC

[keen garden]

I'll test on my xbox later

[serene kettle]

they are

Basho Arms are unfortunately just kind of flatly the best choice if you're using anything classed as a melee weapon (except maybe the explosive thrower?)

their melee spec is just head and shoulders above all competitors and their other stats are solid enough that they aren't overspecialized into melee.

I say unfortunately not because I dislike the basho arms or anything (they look fine) but just because it reduces the variety of builds you see

[proven bison]

Where are the patch notes?

Also where are the new parts

[ember carbon]

Patch doesn’t drop till tomorrow

[wooden nimbus]

They will be in the shop tomorrow :U

[ember carbon]

And it looks like fromsoft took down the patch notes they had up early

[proven bison]

Oh

Dang ok I was excited and thought they dropped today

Welp tomorrow I'm making a Raleigh, and probably a shoulder minigun tetra

[wooden nimbus]

Tomorrow I replace my Hux with a shoulder gat and we will see what happens

Probably test out that heavy MG too

[frank pivot]

i think so too, i wish nightfall was like a beastly dual zimm build or something

something actually terrifying

[serene kettle]

That's what Volta's for

[wooden nimbus]

I will now shitpost with a boxing mech

[serene kettle]

lol nice

one of my fav builds to run is a lightweight with double trouble, Jav Betas, and an empty fist

it's not good but it's extremely fun

and I've done a decent number of missions with it which is always funny

including NG++ BAWS arsenal

and Defend the Dam

this one was hard lmao

[wooden nimbus]

The first dude was cool the second was not

I did pretty good against a shotgun tho :)

[serene kettle]

I've also fared decently well against my pvp friends with Lumberjack, though not really against their good builds

[wooden nimbus]

shotgun guy is now cool

we boxed

[frank pivot]

Have you tried jav beta with dual active homings?

It's immensely fun

[serene kettle]

Can't say I have. Is Active Homing...good???

I thought they seemed like trash and never tried them again

[frank pivot]

They are great with the jav beta, my build with them has like a 30% winrate against ramenrook

Who is the last top tier player i played

He placed i think 9th at the $1000 tourney

The dilemma they create is that dodging both them AND the jav beta is sometimes kind of not possible? And for the attacker you can mindlessly chuck them out

[serene kettle]

Oh I see! that makes sense

[keen hedge]

Also they're good for 'mental stack' stuff

Sure they're slow but they're relentless

[wooden nimbus]

Like back when I used a single aperitif as more of a "I will split your attention between two hazards" thing?

I miss that thing

[inland sluice]

This S rank took me a while to get. Chapter 3 final mission spoilers.

[serene kettle]

😌

yeah that's a tricky one to S-rank

one of those missions you kind of just have to learn a speedrunner approach for

rather than 'gitting gud' per se

[inland sluice]

Now I only have like 4 ish missions left but most of them will likely take 1 try.

[serene kettle]

the one that was an absolute menace for me on the S-rank was BAWS Arsenal

[inland sluice]

Yeah at some point I even decided to stun needle it right after it did the big explosion after you hit it a second time.

Oh yeah I still gotta do that one

Currently at a rank

[serene kettle]

oh no

good luck then

that is a hard s-rank

[serene kettle]

extremely tight time limit

[inland sluice]

What's the time?

[serene kettle]

technically it depends on your ammo costs and damage taken, but you're generally looking at under 4 minutes

tighter if you take more than a hit or two or your weapons have expensive ammo

[quasi copper]

BAWS Arsenal S-Rank is brutal

My solution was going really fast with plasma rifles

[serene kettle]

I broke out the cheese sticks for it

Double Stun Needle will consistently kill the non-shielded Ghosts with one double trigger pull

and you really cannot afford to waste any time.

If they get a chance to reposition at all it's pretty much over.

You just waste too much time.

[frank pivot]

if you want to hear what it's like when someone's mental state shattered into pieces 8 hours of ice worm attempts ago... https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2003694352

if you want to watch someone ELSE being miserable on the worst mission in the game

[serene kettle]

this was after probably a dozen attempts to do it with Zimms/Truenos on 1.02 or 3 before they were nerfed, if you're wondering

they were fast but still wasted too much time on each kill

[inland sluice]

Ah so I just want to 1 hit them

[serene kettle]

pretty much yeah

also if you take more than a couple hits at the end you might as well start over

[inland sluice]

Describe a couple

[serene kettle]

here's an example of a razor thin margin for the s rank on that mission

[inland sluice]

Idk what 18k of repair costs means in terms of health

[serene kettle]

it depends on how expensive your parts are

[inland sluice]

Ah

I'll try to just fit dual needles plus something big damage in the arms too if possible otherwise maybe just nothing on the arms.

I play lightweight anyway so it's not like it's very different from my usual.

[serene kettle]

here was what my S rank looked like, fwiw

I don't know my exact time

I think it was near-hitless with only a graze from the HMMR at the end though

[serene kettle]

I used needles + twin laser pistols

I only used the pistols on the Pulse Armored one at the end though

because two needles won't kill it with the pulse shield up

I had to soften it up and AA it first

[hollow ridge]

do we know what time the patch is releasing?

[frank pivot]

i wish lol

i'm planning to go gamer mode and hop on at midnight

[cursive agate]

x1 Earshot will also 1-hit them, makes the time limit a lot more bearable if you find a good spot to hit 2+ before they move.

[urban knoll]

Patch is out

[serene kettle]

😮

[urban knoll]

Hover mode for the new legs look sick

Can easily reach 400 hover speed as well

AB animation

[serene kettle]

Oh I love that AB pose

[cursive agate]

New frame parts look cool, but good lord they truly went barebones on the defenses for weight savings.

[shell nymph]

good

speed above all

[lapis shuttle]

Yess, more light builds 🙏

yoo shoulder rotary cannons

[final monolith]

what's the Raleigh build plan?

[proven bison]

Lamm head, HAL arms, Orbiter body, not sure about the legs. Double up on needle pistols and ducketts, or Curtis

Get some kind of combustion gen, cause IPS-N ain't gonna use energy or coral

[final monolith]

also wow the Lamm head looks good with pretty much everything

[crude vessel]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1888160/view/3874848646983932541?l=english <@&1146476468453511168>

[proven bison]

What exactly are the 4 new weapons?

I know the shoulder gats and handheld pulse missiles, but not the other two

[harsh mulch]

heavy machine gun

and shoulder laser cannons

they WRECKED me

[proven bison]

Ohh a heavier machine gun than the chang?

[harsh mulch]

yeap

slower fire fate, more damage

[proven bison]

Hell yeah

[harsh mulch]

tried the matchmaking

purdy gud

[proven bison]

I can't wait to get off of school so I can try this stuff out

[final monolith]

neaowwwwww

[proven bison]

The heavy machine guns seem fun as hell

[cursive agate]

VE-60LRB, a less ridiculous heavy Laser Cannon

[south oracle]

alright, let's check out the new stuff

my god the new head is so fucking flat

[wooden nimbus]

unarmored core

[south oracle]

so the shoulder gatling heat up very quickly, but also cool down very quickly

it's clearly for people to hold for a short burst of damage

[wooden nimbus]

Nile does not stand a chance

[south oracle]

the lamborghini core is interestingly

it has both high gen and supply

meaning, this thing has both energy and can boost like mad

oh my god, check out attache reload animation

you don't reload the magazine

you reload the barrel

[surreal vine]

Wait

So it's a metal storm gun?

Damn

[south oracle]

it technically has two magazines

one for bullets, one for barrels

fuck I forgot the control already

is there like a list of KEYBOARD control somewhere

because I really dislike that the game only show you CONTROLLER control

[cursive agate]

Just activating the Lammer's hover mode is enough to work as a quick boost, speed cap of 400, and 73k still moves at 393 speed.

[cursive agate]

But 87 Booster Efficencey, so you really need to avoid spamming QB. 117 EN Output, and 110 EN Supply helps boost your regen enough to avoid full-empty.

[south oracle]

how do you do the core power thing again

I pressing my assault boost plus access button which ctrl f and it's doing nothing

[cursive agate]

Did you switch to type B?

[south oracle]

no

[wooden nimbus]

Keyboard commands is in input device settings > keybindings in the main tab menu

[south oracle]

yes that's what I checked

it's crtl f

it's the default

[wooden nimbus]

I have fiddled around with my controls so mine are not standard

[south oracle]

yes that's I'm using

[cursive agate]

Hmm

[south oracle]

the assault core thing really befuddles me like every single time

[cursive agate]

Assault Armor?

[south oracle]

it's why I just use terminal armor

assault armor\

whatever

I'm being old people right now

[cursive agate]

It's definitely situational, really small optimal range (70m-ish).

[south oracle]

okay, finally got it, it's fucking pain

[wooden nimbus]

My main use of AA is that I am always in someone's face and they use PA

So I use AA and they don't have it anymore

[south oracle]

the controller scheme said core expansion is assault boost plus Y button

[wooden nimbus]

Core Extension is Ctrl R for me

[south oracle]

and Y button is both shift... and access

and those two are different buttons

[surreal vine]

Also this tidbit has me thinking of (functional) pseudo-NEXT builds...

[south oracle]

so that's fucking stupid

[cursive agate]

On Xbox controller Shift/Access are on the same button, that's probably why

[south oracle]

there really should be a dedicated button for core expansion

anywya I'm just doing this to check out the lamborghini core cooldown animation

[wooden nimbus]

Playing wiht screenshot gimmicks now I wish I could have a green energy field

[south oracle]

so the reactor are on its back

which mean the spiky thing in the middle is the cockpit

yeah this thing unarmored as hell

it's so unarmored its defensive stat can dip below 1000

[cursive agate]

Yeea, my own build is really pushing things with only Laser Defense above 1000

[wooden nimbus]

Its assault boost is neat

[south oracle]

its legs transform differently while hovering and assault boosting

it's very cool!

fromsoft knows what's up

[cursive agate]

I really like the custom hover mode, (folds into a tank-like shape)

[south oracle]

also, the starter scudder feels quite good now

it's a very decent weapon already, but the buff in this patch makes it just a touch better

it's small, but you can notice that you can stagger enemies faster than usual with it

[chrome bronze]

Oh man these new weapons are

So fun

The shoulder gatlings feel so nice to have a non pulse sustained shoulder weapon

[fierce laurel]

On I love the look of the new Schneider parts

but hoo boy is that a fragile

[south oracle]

yup

they are the lightest part in game

aside from the leg

[chrome bronze]

Holy shit

The head has 300 AP

That’s less the broken parts

[south oracle]

I feel like that the shoulder gatling is here to stagger something in a burst in combination with your hand weapon, since they don't really do much on their own

[cursive agate]

Schneider woke up and decided to flex with the Lammer set

[chrome bronze]

My immediate thoughts are that they’re pretty good with a double trigger build

[cursive agate]

Definitely, they let rip in short bursts like the Pulse Guns instead of Arm Gatling's sustain.

[chrome bronze]

The extra little bursts of stagger and damage really imo

Especially since they can be used without stopping to fire

[fierce laurel]

My read is that the shoulder gats are a useful pull when your arm guns are reloading, to keep a nice sustained volume of fire

to that end, I'm an instant fan

[cursive agate]

I might use them on some quad builds to free up the arm slots for bazookas/ect.

[south oracle]

the bigger laser cannon on the other hand

I kinda want to say it felt like it's too heavy?

but also it does hit really hard

but also the damage is just 25% more than that of the lighter laser cannon

but it also has 300 ideal range

[fierce laurel]

https://youtu.be/UiDM7IIWXeE?si=lgYv6sZJjD6utcRc

[copper minnow]

https://fxtwitter.com/CybrE6t/status/1737074117881544752?t=_1mPNQ_XQ7l6HhWnrJCc6A&s=19

[chrome bronze]

Also the new RAD machine gun does feel pretty nice

[fierce laurel]

I gotta try a double zimmy+shoulder gat build when I get off work

[wooden nimbus]

Ah, so Ranked mode seems to be where all the laser cannon players are going

I guess I'll not do that

[cursive agate]

Might clear up after a while as they filter through the ranks

[frank pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-its-all-coming-together-gif-15058130

z i m p a n z e e

[shell nymph]

it’s beautiful

unlimited burst damage

[frank pivot]

lol

ranked is full of people thinking they are a lot better than they actually are i think

lots of ramen clones that aren't slippery

[proven bison]

RAD MACHINE GUN RAD MACHINE GUN

[shell nymph]

my full rad build will finally be fun

it’s that time again (heavy RJ)

[keen hedge]

Did forget that was a company and thought y'all were just being 80s-style excited

though if any game is totally rad it's Giant Rocketskating Mechas

[shell nymph]

and the attaches are very rad, that’s for sure

[quasi copper]

So those RaD miniguns heat up real fast huh

[cursive agate]

The shoulder gatlings cook fast but also cool fast, and you'll probably want to let off the trigger due to recoil

[quasi copper]

So do they also cool better if you have a high EN firearm adjust stat

[eager vector]

why would they?

[quasi copper]

It changes the cooling on other weapons lol

[eager vector]

really? non-EN weapons?

never knew that

wait I’m pretty sure that’s just incorrect

[cursive agate]

Affects charge time

[quasi copper]

Ah beat

[cursive agate]

Aurora might interact weirdly because it was changed to be affected by EN Firearm Spec.

[eager vector]

It increases damage on any laser/plasma firearms and cannons plus aurora missiles, reduces charge time on same weapons, and speeds up reload speed on auroras

and pulse guns

[wooden nimbus]

I need to figure out how so many people manage to stay in the air longer than I do

[frank pivot]

It varies wildly based on the build and how you drive it

For example it's always more efficient to gain altitude via assault boost than jumping and holding the ascend button

What's your build? What's your generator and EN surplus?

[proven bison]

Why is the Lamm head so small?

It's tiny

[frank pivot]

They took off all the armor

Unarmored Core

Lamm legs are the wheelchair of the sky now lol

[proven bison]

I wanted to make IPS-N mechs with it

[surreal vine]

I really wanna use the Lamm core to make a true NEXT equivalent since it's so good for mobility

[proven bison]

But the thing is so tiny it only works for the Tortuga

[frank pivot]

I have yet to try it, i was laddering earlier haha

[surreal vine]

Unsure if I wanna slap on the ultralight RJs or bipeds though

Probably the latter so I don't totally and completely trash ACS stats

[quasi copper]

so is the sky wheelchair good or nah

[proven bison]

I've been out of the loop for a while, so, by chance is the Therapist any less of a joke now?

[shell nymph]

nacht legs + lamm everything is really fast and drippy

slap 2 ducketts on and you're so fast nothing hits

[swift nacelle]

Well i was finally motivated to betray Carla and Chatty

Couldn't bring myself to do it before

They and Walter shall be missed

[inland sluice]

Love the new parts

Me n the buddy

[swift nacelle]

Is it just me or are the new pulse missiles really expensive to fire?

[proven bison]

I love the aesthetic of the Attache and Stun Needles

[surreal vine]

I'm gonna make a quad gatlings build as "Phalanx CIWS: the mech"

[inland sluice]

Also still managed to s rank the destroy the driveblocks mission even tho I used all repairs in the snailteus fight lmao.

I got hit by his giant fuckoff beam every single time I could have.

[fallen harness]

haven't been around or played much in a while, but the ranked matchmaking update brought me back

and damn if hitting a manually aimed linear rifle shot isn't the best feeling

[tough fable]

So I never actually finished the campaign since the fight against an RPV Ultra Assault the Enforcer filtered me. Can I still get the new parts?

[fallen harness]

also: I have escaped Unranked and am now D Rank

[steep meadow]

We should bring back AC nest soon, what with the rankings and stuff it’ll be fun to try out the new stuff

[frank pivot]

I don't know, but i can show you the easiest way to kill enforcer!

I know some of the parts unlock at the end of specific chapters

[tough fable]

How?

[fierce laurel]

no thoughts. head empty. just W+E+Q+M1+M2 😌

[frank pivot]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2004070833
Ignore the manvoice lol, i had a looooong day that day 😦

BUT look how i try to stay above enforcer, and close to it

Many builds are better than the starter ac for this

BUT if you stay above and close to the boss, it has a really hard time hitting you, so you can just pound it with whatever gun you like

[tough fable]

I grabbed the Aeorta. Is an Infinite Flight Tetra build a viable cheese option?

[frank pivot]

Sure! I think a hovering tetra with pretty much any gen is good

You could also slap on double majestic bazookas and double LCS laser cannons

And simply float up to its face and shoot it until it dies

[wooden nimbus]

I will continue to hope for a laser cannon nerf even though I know it will never come

[shell nymph]

god there’s nothing like the terror of loading into the nest and seeing someone using an almost identical build

[wooden nimbus]

I would welcome it, I don't know if it's bad luck or what but all I'm getting are the most annoying builds I can think of

[frank moth]

what recommendations would you guys have for this build ? I am not certain on the rifle and the shoulders. I basically tried to build around redshift moonblade. A relatively agile and somewhat sturdy biped

[shell nymph]

it was just horrifying seeing someone also going for the lammergeier + nacht leg fast build

[shell nymph]

i’d maybe swap the ludlow for a harris or ransetsu? unless it cuts your speed too much

[wooden nimbus]

I have to make my build more suited to longer range combat

You'd think having an AB-focused booster and using AB wouldn't be easy for rats to outrun by just boosting normally but here I am

[wooden nimbus]

I think I just need to quit until they hopefully make more PVE content.

[hollow ridge]

this is what im cookin

[swift nacelle]

I see you too understand the elegance of the pulse missile

[proven bison]

I'm realizing quad gats are pretty easy to counter by just not being in point blank range

My mid/light weight biped midranger Explosive Thrower / Pulse Pistol / Aurora / Jav Beta is working wonders in ranked

[fierce laurel]

https://youtu.be/gfTMdd9sqss?si=Y2BaE1nXB0CQRH7d

[sharp canopy]

Lammy my beloved

[summer trellis]

God I love the new core parts

444 max QB speed my beloved

Definitely loving the new “hyperlight”

[urban knoll]

The rifle buffs are awesome

I could actually get people to ACS overload in ranked

[frank pivot]

i'm having fun in ranked

once i hit high ranks, i'm planning to use an anti-kite build whenever i have a cushion of points built up

specifically aiming to keep as many kites as possible out of top tier

it's such a mentally lazy playstyle lol, i despise it even more than rats

[eager vector]

what’s the difference between kites and rats?

[distant forge]

IDK they're kinda the same? Ratting is a subset of kite builds

rats specifically use missiles n shit

[swift nacelle]

What exactly is a rat?

[frank pivot]

Kites backpedal and float up and down and ping away with missiles and rifles

Rats actively run around the map with assault boost, doing hit and runs while trying to control distance

[urban knoll]

I find ratting more mentally lazy

Kites at least play with the movement portion of the game to try and keep your FCS off them

Rats mostly just run and stay at the skybox

[frank pivot]

I find it to be completely the opposite. Rats have to move from cover to cover and have really good map knowledge, and kites just float and pray they have the RPS matchup advantage

I definitely find rats way more fun to fight against

[urban knoll]

Not exactly? Good kites make use of cover, knowledge and movement to throw your FCS off

They make use of verticality to quickly change their altitude to throw your FCS off

[frank pivot]

So does every build in the game though

Lol

[urban knoll]

I find rats are the ones who tend to fly to the map's height limit

And just AB away whenever you get close

[frank pivot]

All the kites i fight fly straight up every game haha

[urban knoll]

What weapons do they even run?

[frank pivot]

Dual ransetsus, dual LRA, harris / rifle of choice, etc

[urban knoll]

With missiles?

[frank pivot]

Usually one set of back missiles and a shield

[urban knoll]

Then shouldn't their FCS be out of range? Unless they control their altitude so that they are at the edge of their FCS range

[frank pivot]

Depends on what you're playing. I've been bringing two sets of missiles sometimes to really shut them down

[urban knoll]

Yeah, missiles tend to shut down builds that camp at the skybox

I run a kite build myself and I run Turner + Scudder & Needle launcher + 4 cell missile

[frank pivot]

I really like dual zimms, shield, 10cell. Frame is basho arms (yeah, even w/no melee), wrecker legs, mind alpha core, vp-44 head (round normal looking one)

[urban knoll]

The "kite" builds that hang at the skybox, you generally can deal with them the same way you deal with rats I think

[frank pivot]

Veryyyyy fun cqc behemoth and the 10 cell is quite annoying for kites and light tetras to deal with

Idk usually it costs so much energy to get to them that i can't really do much

[urban knoll]

I fought someone with a similar build like that yesterday

[frank pivot]

Like i have only dropped 2 matches out of 30 today, but both were to kites cuz i was running "for fun" builds

[urban knoll]

3 weapons shooting at them tends to overwhelm their pulse shield and I QB when they get into zimm range to throw their FCS off

ACS overload then stun needle

[frank pivot]

It depends on if you can kick the kite or not

But without a shield of your own you will be hard pressed vs an aggressive and knowledgeable zimmpanzee i think? Idk

The gold standard of cracked zimm play is a jp player named 432

[urban knoll]

Ehhh, Zimms have the disadvantage of only have 1 shot

[frank pivot]

But that's the thing, you have 2 guns

[urban knoll]

So if you can dodge the zimm shots, you have the chance to counter attack and build distance

[frank pivot]

That's what made 432 so good

They don't ever shoot both at once except very rarely during punishes

So it's just a constant flow of stagger and high uptime assault boosting

[urban knoll]

It is acceptable to just tank 1 zimm shot

And having a high damage weapon would help deter assault boosting as they only move forward

[frank pivot]

I wonder if you've seen how maneuverable a good assault boost player can be

It's quite a sight

[surreal tundra]

I probs won't get updated until way later,
But wow those pulse missiles seem fun,
Are they good?

[urban knoll]

I saw a couple of clips and while they are maneurverable, they still only can move forward with side dodges

With the nerf to kicks

[frank pivot]

They seem to be! Especially in pve they are monstrous. The charged shot is amazingly fun

[urban knoll]

It makes it easier to punish

[surreal tundra]

Ooooh,
Like, even with their "only 1 lockon" thing?

So- missile tracking/guidance?

[urban knoll]

The pulse missiles look cool, that's for sure

[frank pivot]

That is, if the kick whiffs

But why kick someone who can just drop, or rise up to make kicks miss? Much easier to shoot them

[urban knoll]

I mean if they can anticipate the kick and dodge it, they should be rewarded no?

[copper minnow]

https://fxtwitter.com/Etheox/status/1737340614528921996?t=0WQBz-A46byORWwi3GmwFQ&s=19

[viral wyvern]

the new head fucks supremely hard with most of the cores

mind alphas is particularly banging

formezas goated too

[keen hedge]

It screams to be designed into a Tortuga

[summer trellis]

Clearly it wants to be a Zimmerman + Pilebunker mid weight build with pulse armor