Armored Core General!

[frank pivot]

"Curved Array" has to be a google translate issue

[frank pivot]

I need ideas for degenerate phrases to put on my heavy tank AC

Current frontrunner is "BOMBY MOMMY"

[chrome bronze]

Bara Protag

[frank pivot]

Lmfao

[frank pivot]

Yes, this will definitely be on there

[long zodiac]

Ok I'm almost certainly the millionth person to ask, but I feel like some S ranks have prereqs that you don't get told

Cause I smashed though Destroy the Transport Helicopters in like 40 secs and took a total of 200 damage and got an A

[surreal tundra]

Haven't actually tried S-ranking that, but what's your ammo cost?

Also lmao game crashed right when I landed the last hit on Balteus

Not a bad run all things considered, occasional messups aside- buuut yeah lmao, was too warm

[cursive agate]

Wrecking the Loghunt Heavy MT is worth a lot time/score-wise.

[long zodiac]

Oh like 3K

[lethal flame]

I'm pretty sure I Sranked destroy the helicopters without fighting the heavy mt

Or at least without killing it

[surreal tundra]

Ohhh-
Yeah I think I'd try beating it anyway

Also-
No-shop,
While the forward and vertical missile plus linear and pulse blade can handle things, once I got to Maeterlynk it got annoying- then I got Javelin Beta and lmao, that plus the Turner for steady stagger made it much easier

[serene kettle]

I did it in the few seconds after wiping out the transport copters while having control of your character still

[frank pivot]

this extremely silly build has been bringing me great joy in both pve and pvp

[vapid trench]

I have s-ranked Intercept the Redguns and besides actually beating the game I feel I have proven myself as much as I can lol

Kind of hilarious every time I get stuck in an S-rank I just go “alright… get me my fucking Ashmead” and try to rush the boss quick as I can lol

[proven bison]

Is the therapist good now that it's been buffed? Or is it just slightly less trash

[cursive agate]

Therapist got more damage/ammo/faster charge, but still terrible at applying shock. Shock application intervals got adjusted (more often but less), roughly the same Shock output as pre-patch.

[vapid trench]

When I log into PsychologyToday

[ashen monolith]

it's still ass yeah

more reason to use it

[midnight pine]

you would think they would buff its ability to apply shock

but the Stun Bomb Launchers are still actually incapable of stunning an ac

[cursive agate]

I guess they're trying to keep it different from the Stun Gun (almost entirely reliant on Shock output).

[shrewd arrow]

Did the PCA use augmented pilots for the Ekdromoi?

[cursive agate]

I don't think there's any data about that, though they keep up better than the rest of the Rubicon PCA forces.

[vapid trench]

Thinking about pathetic baby girl V.VIII Pater 🥺

[modern hornet]

Not a whole lot of known data on PCA pilots in general, which I believe is intended in-setting, since the PCA forces are all in-house troops answering to the Enforcement System on a dedicated server rather than mercenaries on-contract through ALLMIND.

[shrewd arrow]

Excellent, my thanks.

[frank pivot]

refinements ongoing

dropped to single ACT, less stagger and dmg but still does the "annoying to dodge both missiles" thing

[iron quarry]

I have an idea

I’m putting a pile bunker on the wheelchair

And making it work

[frank pivot]

i made an emblem just for you PB degenerates today

Share ID N3RQK84GH91C

[iron quarry]

Get bunked on

[iron quarry]

Thank you fren

[shut sequoia]

I really like the raven with the red white and blue around it

[hollow ridge]

Do plasma missiles count as energy damage for the purposes of energy firearm spec?

[cursive agate]

No, Plasma Missiles come with their own generator and aren't affected by EN Firearm Spec. Aurora is an exception (affected by EN Firearm Spec) due to balance changes.

[torn jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14p1DKhB3ZE&ab_channel=Nicoboy

[modern hornet]

Plasma Missiles, Orbit Weapons (In this instance, the Laser Orbit, Drone, and Turret, specifically), and Melee Weapons are all unaffected by EN Firearm Spec for the above stated reason: they're all powered by their own built in sub-generators that operate independent of your AC's own generator.

[winged folio]

Getting into AC6, is there any advantage to non-verticle launch missiles, other than time to impact?

[serene kettle]

depends on the missiles but time to impact you can control is also generally a useful thing.

I'm a big fan of the 10-cell Furlongs

There are also some operating environments with low ceilings

you'll usually find vert missiles underperform there

[winged folio]

I'm kinda liking the VTC-08s so far

yeah that makes sense

[cursive agate]

I've noticed non-plasma Vertical Missiles have worse tracking, since they have to deal with 2 dimensions more often than direct-fire missiles (forward/back + left/right compared to left/right, up/down).

Plasma Vertical makes up for worse tracking with DoT clouds, but regular vertical missiles lack splash radius, and tend to fall behind any AC moving at boost speed.

[iron quarry]

Do share ID’s work across platforms?

[winged folio]

ALso, I'm wanting to like laser rifles, but I don'ty think they're clicking

[serene kettle]

I found the starter laser rifles pretty good but didn't try them out until NG+

[eager vector]

I found that laser handguns and plasma rifles both significantly outperform the lighter laser rifles in pve

but also make sure your generator has good EN firearm spec

[serene kettle]

plasma rifle was what I used in NG

Plasma Rifle, Pulse Blade, and Songbirds was my loadout for the majority of the game

[eager vector]

I was dual shotguns+missiles until I got the pilebunker and then never took it off, adding in the laser lance once I got it. LL+PB left side, zimmerman+songbird right side was my loadout for almost every single mission.

[frank pivot]

They do not 😦 but it's not too hard to replicate

[frank pivot]

Oh! It's just the USAF roundel

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Roundel_of_the_USAF.svg

[winged folio]

Thanks for the heads up!

[sharp canopy]

I made a mean girl AC that was an absolute pain to get the weight issues resolved on

I couldn't really equip a shoulder weapon, because that's too heavy AND it would break up her outline too much

and then came issues surrounding melee weapon usage, mainly because of weight issues once again

[winged folio]

Balt down!

[sharp canopy]

oh hell yeah

[winged folio]

10% ammo left on my mainhand xD

[sharp canopy]

oh by the way, a treat for people who like Frequency's "Shining"

took me a while but I made the AC Nexus guy from the intro

so like what'd you use on Balteus?

[winged folio]

I love that one of the shotguns for AC6 is literally just the franchi spas

[winged folio]

Okay, so double trigger charged weapons I guess aren't so much of a thing?

[winged folio]

okay I love the early game little machinepistols

but biy are they not giving me enough ammo

[frank pivot]

It depends on the gun 🙂 one of the top meta builds right now is dual LCS back cannons with dual Redshift Nebula rifles on the arms

But yeah you mostly tap fire

[winged folio]

Yeah the fact you can't simultaneously fire two fully charged weapons is a bit sad

[serene kettle]

yeah I felt like a real dumbass the first time I tried to fire charged curtises together and ended up sitting there for like four seconds firing them one after another.

[winged folio]

Which like, I wanna simultaneously release two laser rifles and 2 laser cannons

[frank pivot]

I think it's good for balance that you can't alpha strike quite that hard lmao

[winged folio]

I mean reasonable

But also,

[surreal tundra]

huh, HAL core + ALBA legs...
I just realized it's the other way around that I wasn't so sure about liking, aesthetics-wise, but this look-
huh,
It's interesting, I might go ahead and try making something with that sometime XD

[surreal tundra]

the handheld charged weapons can't fire together- but the back ones can, right?
at least IIRC

[cursive agate]

Yepyep, back weapons use the same stance so they don't interrupt the other shoulder, also applies to shoulder shield + back weapon w/stance.

[wheat glen]

1: burst fire, don't go ham
2: use arms that have decent recoil control, judging purely by firearm specialisation is a fool's trap that I fell into
3: use the Dafeng Chang-Chen smgs instead, 45 rounds instead of 30 in the chamber

[cursive agate]

Ludlow/Chang-Chen depends heavily on use case. Chang-Chen trades a lot of stats for +15 mag size, mostly better for sustained fire (before reloading).

[quasi copper]

very late to this but verts can't be used when there's a ceiling and they whiff against enemies that zip around on the ground which forward missiles will clown on

[hollow ridge]

I have found

The silly

Buffed wuerger + lazer dagger + dual huxleys on a lightweight rj

[fierce laurel]

For beating Balteus, I forgot what exactly I first beat him with but due to the Nacht with 2x Ransetsu's and 2x plasma shoulder vert launchers becoming my 'I win' button for that run I'm assuming that

[ripe crow]

I think I first beat balteus with pulse gun + pulse sword, but I dont remember my back weapons at the time. Probably cheap missiles.

[winged folio]

Okay the Spring chicken legs seem really damn good

[eager vector]

I love them

they’re not really meta

the stability to weight ratio is rough, and the big jumps make it hard to chain QBs

[cursive agate]

Larger hitbox than the other RJ options too, though the recent buffs help it some.

[winged folio]

I like that it's letting me get a bit of the feel of a hypermobile light frame with a heavier setup

[serene kettle]

yeah spring chicken has very good movement for its weight class

[ripe crow]

What's a good way to play a Tetrapod?

[frank pivot]

That's what i used too haha

[frank pivot]

Pick the light tetrapod, and slap on either the 12345 booster at any weight or the p04 booster if your quad is 70k weight or less

Hover, and spam quickboost

You'll see your speed spike to assault boost speeds over long distances and durations.

It's a very unique movement option; it trashes melee because you move backwards so fast, and screws with boss tracking as well

[winged folio]

I'm looking forward to getting light tetras

[frank pivot]

The arquebus legs are a good candidate

You could prolly make a ch1 parts build without tooooo much issue?

[ripe crow]

First draft, 150% EN weapon build, with explosive thrower because I ran out of ENload.

midrange FCS, I'm too tight on EN for anything else.

played 086, got all the combat log enemies in one go

[frank pivot]

so you want an EN quad?

[frank pivot]

oh ALSO sadly, it's not a direct 150%, it's half of every point over 100

so 150 en firearm spec is a 25% boost

something like this could be a little higher performance

you've got about 4600 en recharge rate which is quite nice. defenses are bad yes, but the stability is high

[sharp canopy]

wait you guys burst fire your ludlows?

[frank pivot]

i don't use them very much because their performance is poor

[sharp canopy]

I always just held down the trigger like a lunatic

[frank pivot]

i'd usually rather slot two coquilettes if i need a light gun

cuz they do pretty good stagger

not as good as viento

but like half the EN cost

[sharp canopy]

I mean, I like ludlows a lot, for me they let me just kind of pressure an opponent until they use up all their ammo, then I use a hard-hitter upon them getting staggered

for me the opposite issue exists, I don't like the coquilettes, because their projectiles go too slow, which is why I run ransetsus

I also beat ALLMIND with a build that was built to basically be lore-accurate liberator 621 much in the same vein that NIGHTFALL is to Raven-prime

(Hokushi, RaD starter parts including finder eye, 2X Ransetsu, pulse blade)

I might be using ALLMIND as a basis to see what builds are viable

[frank pivot]

i think this weekend i'm gonna finish beating allmind with loader 4, no expansions

i've been meaning to for like a month cuz i did all the other missions

[sharp canopy]

oh wow, that's going to be a show for sure

[surreal tundra]

Ooooooooh,
Wonder what song'll come up XD

[sharp canopy]

I didn't know it was possible to one-phase Balteus

[serene kettle]

you can do some hilariously bad things with the right combo

I have a screenshot with Redfin where I get the damage number above an enemy to over 17k

and a different one where I all-but-oneshot Chartreuse

[winged folio]

Sheesh

[serene kettle]

Just realized I should probably be more careful about spoilers since you mentioned you were still working through

the 17k+ damage was against the NG++ true final boss

[frank pivot]

man

Defend the Dam Complex took me like 12 attempts

doing manual aim only

the winning formula ended up being oops all explosives: dual earshots, explosive thrower, majestic lol

mounted it all on the nacht core with 20d gen on a 12345 "light" quad for the ability to scoot around

[fierce laurel]

Got an interesting gimmick
Step 1: barrage with the missile vomit Step 2: switch to Ransetsus for plinking Step 3: repeat while bouncing around

[winged folio]

This build seems deeply unserious, got me through Raven:

[eager vector]

it’s a vibe. The IPS-N Monarch

[winged folio]

yes!

did like 5-6 raven runs with various builds

missile boat does it in one

[eager vector]

I was very stubborn and insisted on pilebunkering Raven lol

[iron quarry]

Stable as can be

[ashen monolith]

https://fxtwitter.com/momosuke0627/status/1724985254694555935/en

[iron quarry]

Hey buddy, you’re Vermin

[frank pivot]

May i recommend any other head

Also nice work with the missiles

[winged folio]

Ahaha, I know it's the lowest common denominator head, but I like the way it looks

I should go for something else tho really

[iron quarry]

Basho?

[frank pivot]

Hah, i mean you do you

Basho is probably the closest, good idea

Another flat head

[iron quarry]

Same aesthetic better stats

[winged folio]

Yeah

[frank pivot]

I like mind beta head / legs with tian core

It looks terrible

But it's 1890 stability which is way fun to play

[iron quarry]

You may have stability in game with that combination but your losing mental stability in real life using it

[waxen nest]

warframe MOA lookin ass

[karmic galleon]

Personally I think mind beta look nice on some of the lighter cores. Just gotta make a custom paint job to bring out that crown

[vapid trench]

Smart Cleaner true final boss, if I never see that thing again it will be too soon

[frank pivot]

Not a fan of smart cleaner? Me neither

[fierce laurel]

really? Smart Cleaner goes down like a binch vs. vertical missiles

[frank pivot]

I don't think it's super fun to fight even if you bring like 2x majestic 2x LCS and just instakill it

[fierce laurel]

BFFs 4ever

[serene kettle]

The Smart Cleaner was fun and interesting the first couple of times

also it was a breath of fresh air as something I felt like I could beat without spending hours frustrated after Balty 😛

if the next boss after Balty had been Sea Spider (which also took me a very long time to beat) I would have been pretty demoralized!

[fierce laurel]

Sea Spider itself wasn't that hard imo it was the dang orbital lasers before it that kept killing me

Until I found the under-structure route that skips most of the open area except for 1 little stretch

[serene kettle]

yeah to be clear this was back when I was first playing

these days I can just kinda dunk on Balty and Sea Spider alike

those orbital lasers actually help teach the dodge timing for Sea Spider's beeg laser

[vapid trench]

The smart cleaner isn’t particularly hard! It just isn’t very satisfying especially at the end of (in my experience) the hardest S Rank for me
At least Balteus feels satisfying, Cleaner is like this game’s equivalent of Gaping Dragon

[serene kettle]

huh. I didn't think Grid 086 was that bad for S-ranking, at least once I figured out killing enemies contributed to ranking and I stopped just zooming past them without clearing a path

[torn jungle]

Shoot But Hole

[serene kettle]

The S-ranks I struggled most with by far were BAWS arsenal, the second-to-last NG++ mission, Ice Worm, and the Refueling Base

Ice Worm was mostly just learning the tricks

[torn jungle]

ice worm is all gimmick

[serene kettle]

yeah

[torn jungle]

once you learn the spots where you can actually shoot it its just executing

[serene kettle]

hit it during the predictable portions and you'll do it way faster

if you don't, it'll feel like complete RNG

meanwhile BAWS Arsenal's time limit is so strict that if you're not cleanly oneshotting every enemy before it moves or if you get hit more than once you've probably already lost it

[vapid trench]

Oh BAWS was awful too
Idk for whatever reason 086 was just a nightmare, even when I went for all enemies it was still too slow, can’t even justify going down to Nosaac
I also had a low capacity frame so aiming for the face was quicker and more consistent than the back

[serene kettle]

oh all enemies definitely isn't worth it

[cursive agate]

Noscaac adds a lot of time actually compared to most other enemies

[vapid trench]

Meanwhile I did Coral Convergence S-Rank by accident

[serene kettle]

yeah Coral Convergence S-rank isn't really much worse than "beating coral convergence"

a lot of the missions with major bosses have generous S-ranks

[cursive agate]

According to the calc, taking out Nossac adds like 120 sec before repair/ammo costs.

[vapid trench]

I have the recoding, it was 9 min in total bc I was going for the logs & chests in the same run lol

[serene kettle]

Another one that gives some people trouble is Illegal Entry just because you're locked to Loader 4 for it

but that was actually a first attempt S-rank for me

It's one of the ones I s-ranked before even getting my first ending

I think I did it while taking a break from Coral Convergence kicking my ass

[vapid trench]

Favorite S-rank is probably alt Unknown Territory Survey bc while frustrating if you get stunned, I managed to pilebunker Rusty as Flatwell was arriving

[serene kettle]

lol

yeah that's a fun one

[vapid trench]

Also my favorite clip so far, I love this stupid kick

[winged folio]

C spider for me was just a matter of having enough dodge distance

[swift nacelle]

Sea Spider Phase 2 Reaction: "waaaaaaw, its so pretty its floating like a jellyfi- OH GOD ITS SHITTING CORAL!!!!!"

[vapid trench]

I gif it

[eager vector]

567 AP and 3 repairs lol

[vapid trench]

Didn’t feel like it lol

[surreal tundra]

Hm, plasma thrower/whip vs moonlight?
Still getting used to the kind of range on the whip but it hits pretty hard, so far

[river junco]

Depends on your build

[frank pivot]

Whip is almost always better imo. It comes out faster so you can beat up lightweights with it. Just get within like 50-60m and let a single hit rip

Whenever i bring out the ratknight in pub lobbies, people invariably swap to kites thinking it will work, and whip + good AB movement and timing invalidates them super hard.

[surreal tundra]

Oh, it goes faster?

I keep underestimating the range and I don't always see how far I am in numbers lmao,

okay so- 50-60m for a hit, that the longest distance too?

[surreal tundra]

Well am on a NoShop-
I picked up Ephemera arms and legs, Aorta, MIND Alpha core, pulse+whip and either Turner or Curtis- then whatever for the right back, for now it's the laser orbit cuz I just got it and steady DPS/impact output is more significant

permanently swapping to Curtis might be better overall- but sometimes I just wanna hold down the trigger/no brainspace for that

[river junco]

Well damn, you’ll have to stop when you attack if you don’t have a set of quads available

[surreal tundra]

noshop, no quads zxcmnzcx
and I only use bipeds anyways otherwise,

I mainly just- spam the normal shot on the curtis, or mean to, if I've swapped away from the Turner,

[surreal tundra]

wait- do you mean for the whip and the Moonlight?
like you don't hold still or- for the linears?

[river junco]

For the whip

The whip locks you in place when you use it

And doesn’t have a lunge

[surreal tundra]

oh- wait don't both of them lock you in place?

[river junco]

So it’s pretty easy to miss

Yeah but the moonlight has range

[surreal tundra]

the moonlight and whip I mean

[river junco]

So it’s not as big a deal

[surreal tundra]

yeah, that's why I'm considering swapping,

but as a stagger punish when I have the laser orbit and rifle, and the pulse blade if it can fit- whip works better or-?

cuz I forgot the damage diff and I don't have it yet

[cursive agate]

single swing hits out to around ~75m at most, but movment/ect makes getting closer a good idea.

[cursive agate]

*Moonlight always locks you down, but whip doesn't stop on Tetrapod/Tank.

Kinda feels like whip has better vertical tracking on tetrapod when mid-air (compared to other legs mid-air).

[surreal tundra]

Huh, interesting

Well I'll probs be fighting ||CEL-240|| with it anyways lmao,
just gotta get something to take out the grinderwheels,,,

actually-

[cursive agate]

Bazooka is probably a good option for the wheels and boss

[surreal tundra]

I should have that left-hand grenade/bazooka from the training stuff, yeah,

just fly away lmao,

goddess I love the clink-clank sound effects- really the whole game/a lot of the whole game's sound effects,
it's so darn stimmy

[cursive agate]

The Dafeng GL is funny for the splash radius but has a weaker Direct Hit mod to offset the upsides, longer reload, and longer delay before shooting than Bazookas.
Can be a menace if your loadout supports it though.

[surreal tundra]

as an aside almost every weapon has some form of moving parts- the melee weapons especially lmao-
and it's a real shame you can't really just- watch them in action
or- at least I can't seem to do it very easily,

[surreal tundra]

I think standing still with it will kill me if I'm using it outside of a stagger or surprise hit or a window I know I won't be attacked in, and also I wanna learn the whip for this run XD

[cursive agate]

It isn't too hard to find openings, and you can quick boost after the animation to regain speed faster.

[surreal tundra]

*referring to bossfights, but in particular- the upcoming ||CEL-240||

[surreal tundra]

admittedly I think I stress out a bit too much/chase a lot vs ||CEL-240|| lmao, and also I'm not sure if it'll hit 'em easily,

Still, it's pretty handy to have,

[frank pivot]

Sorry fell asleep! The whip goes around 87 meters

However, because it locks you in place on bipeds it's good to space with that in mind

[river junco]

God the whip on quads is so fucked

“Haha actually I will not stop”

[frank pivot]

I think it's amazing on bipeds too 😄

[frank pivot]

This was my breakdown of my take on all the parts after i finished all missions, no shop purchases, on a fresh file: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1956780488

I think the only thing i'd change is maybe give single curtis more of a chance

[fierce laurel]

Today is Friday in California! Post shooting Iguazu!

[eager vector]

lmao the dazzle camo

[fierce laurel]

it's a lewk

[surreal tundra]

Mm mm XD

[surreal tundra]

Mm! Thanks, will check after my exam djndf

[surreal tundra]

It's nice to swap to/upgrade to from the Turner I feel, at least from how I've been using it lmao

[serene kettle]

I haaaaated linear rifles when I first tried them out tbh

haha

I just super didn't like the charged mode

I understand better how to use them now

[frank pivot]

This was my arc too, then they buffed the fuck out of Majestic and now i find linears pretty pointless

[serene kettle]

lol

I haven't actually played much since the last patch, I should try out some weapons again

[frank pivot]

Oh man, majestic is fucking godly

Once i got used to fighting with stance weapons like charged linears and the whip it clicked

I even run it on bipeds now

[quasi gulch]

iguana boy down

[wooden nimbus]

Gleipnir getting some tweaks

V aesthetic if nothing else

[frank pivot]

who ready for tourney tmrw?

[surreal tundra]

Majestic?

[frank pivot]

the bazooka 😄

[surreal tundra]

Also awww, your voice is adorbs XD

[frank pivot]

yay thanks 😄 i can't wait until i can afford voice lessons

i kinda don't want to learn bad habits by self teaching and then having to BREAK those habits

[surreal tundra]

Yeah that's fair, for now it sounds alright imo XD

[long zodiac]

Theres a tourney??

[frank pivot]

Hehehehehehehehehe

[eager vector]

nice

[frank pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1155157210180092035/1175446217703051334/F6Yt4iqbkAADxp4.png?ex=656b4299&is=6558cd99&hm=cdcb38d9dc3098c494c995efd2e31058c157ea0b6283f8972e7816a84c85eb1e&

i don't know the artist so i'm breaking my rule to ask

the person posting it in another discord didn't either

does anyone recognize

[halcyon gull]

https://fxtwitter.com/tsukudasub/status/1704099966413840597

[wooden nimbus]

After further testing in both arena and the nest I'm going to abandon swords and just kick the shit out of people.

Spring Chicken is feeling good 😌

[frank pivot]

how did you find that lmao

well thanks

[frank pivot]

are you okay with EXTREMELY ugly frames

if so, i highly recommend mind beta legs / head, tiang qiang core, and whatever arms you want for your build

[wooden nimbus]

I am a visuals whore

[frank pivot]

you get pretty good generator output, good stability for an RJ, and a fairly light frame for what it does

OH

stay far away

lmao

[wooden nimbus]

I am currently styling with this

I've converted almost fully to the hoku gang for generators because I love going from 1% to full in an instant

But yeah I'd rather lose with a good looking mech than win in one I don't like the vibe of

[frank pivot]

i've been driving this in pvp a lot too cuz i kinda agree

it CQCs pretty hard if you dodge with AB a lot

and it rats quite well due to the light weight

[wooden nimbus]

Visually one thing I like about chicken is that unlike the mind beta legs the thighs aren't perfectly vertical, it like weird on RJ to me

Like I always think my mind beta frames are gonna topple forward the second you touch the controls

I wish you could make your mech an NPC for people to download in their arena

[eager vector]

AC SL had an NPC AC that you would train by playing with that frame. It would try to imitate your playstyle as you fed it data.

[wooden nimbus]

Pick a preferred range and tactic template or something

[eager vector]

would’ve fit really well thematically into this game

[wooden nimbus]

I recall, yeah 😌

Also hot take but the operator and squads shit in ACV/VD

I miss that

[eager vector]

I never had a crew to roll with that but it was extremely cool

[halcyon gull]

Honestly? A struggle.

[wooden nimbus]

It was rough doing operator with randoms lemme tell ya

[eager vector]

lmao I can’t imagine

[wooden nimbus]

But I think if the OP had like a couple MT squads to order around and occasionally resupply and they could use them to hold points that could buff their pilots in the match? I would die happy

It would be like marrying the fun of chromehounds back into AC

Yeah OP in V with randoms might as well just be panicked clicking and hoping you weren't ignored

It didn't let you do enough to coordinate with someone you couldn't reliably talk to

[quasi gulch]

what's this tourney i hear of and is there a way to watch?

[frank pivot]

it starts in 12 min i think!

[distant forge]

wtf your voice so cute

blowing you up with my mind

GL with the tourney I can't make it cuz I'm at a funeral

[frank pivot]

damn that sukcs 😦 i hope you are doing ok

[distant forge]

ye im doin alright

striker's chat nearly voted me into the tourney lmao

[distant forge]

good luck intrusive!!!!!!!!!!

[frank pivot]

Thanks 😄 i need to learn to rat properly

If i knew how, my opponents said i would have ended up with at least 2 wins haha

In my head i went 6-3

[frank pivot]

Overall 44th!

[distant forge]

hell yeah

[frank pivot]

I talked to the people i lost to lmao

aphro stomped me insanely hard cuz i was fighting a shield, whip, majestic tetra with a shield whip biped

yet again, rat issue

lol

[distant forge]

aphrodite is really really good

[frank pivot]

Yeah! For sure 🙂

But yeah i think i had enough fun to stick with ac6

I figured if i got royally stomped i'd just move on but it's still fun

[distant forge]

officially fought in the tourney

they took a break so i dm'd striker like "put me in there or no balls" and i got my ass obliterated by a dual LRB + dual LCA tank

but it was during the tourney stream and i did fight

so technically

[frank pivot]

glad you got to play lmao

[distant forge]

migrated to sweet 16

i was today years old when i learned that s16 does more impact than a zimmerman

[distant forge]

im exhausted and im just watching this tourney wtf

[distant forge]

that was a crazy fucking tournament

[distant forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1155157210180092035/1175651253536161832/FR-KWObUcAAJe9p.png?ex=656c018d&is=65598c8d&hm=d015e3e0d6515af477d145625ecb4eabd87ece7d8980b41e71ea6b3472858584&=

[ripe crow]

Trying to fit an energy weapon build in under the VE20B's gen cap.

One back LC, and a hangar dagger for stagger punish

[ripe crow]

I wasnt getting staggers with the pistols, and the cannon made me a sitting duck for freud's laser drones. Changeup for maximun EN damage spray. Unfortunately, that means cutbacks in core parts.

[ripe crow]

Basho legs are actually pretty EN light. This build handles Coral Convergence decently until the final phase- It just doesnt have the vertical mobility to evade.

currently looking at this

[distant forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1146137103957237760/1175878027368988823/image.png?ex=656cd4c0&is=655a5fc0&hm=5d40f9ac4b9501071e5209779ba3b89360b95bd6ee6dcad03c63f3aad115be4a&=&width=1254&height=676

[serene kettle]

😌 someone else sees the true value of the Melander C3 arms: built in billboard

[surreal tundra]

oh that is cuuuuute czx

[serene kettle]

my first major custom decal work in this game used the C3 arms

Thorn was a trash build in retrospect but it was fun and good enough to beat the game with

[winged folio]

Oh that's a great decal!

[surreal tundra]

ooooh, that's so cool XD

[serene kettle]

this was pretty much what I spent my second hour ingame doing, after getting through Illegal Entry and gaining access to customization lol

(I got gifted the game as a preorder so I started with the C3 parts)

[surreal tundra]

lmao,
I wasn't thinking about any of that beyond getting a pink and white paintjob and rushing for all the parts, I think I only started work on decals like- iunno, a month later or so?

[surreal tundra]

mm XD

Also something fun is that if you cover up the junk- junkheap? i forgot what they're called- if you cover them up with solid color decals, the weathering basically becomes a non-issue,
was nice cuz I wanted to use it for the no-shop build and surprisingly was managing even with the terrible recoil and firearm stat

[serene kettle]

that's a cool trick

[surreal tundra]

yeah, the optional bits and whatnot will still have their thing, but you canpick colors and reflection/luster that'll minimize or make use of it

Basically lets me use it with the rest of the relatively squeaky clean parts lmao,

TBH I have no idea how I'm managing with the shooting stats, but oh well XD

[serene kettle]

if you're hitting things it's fiiiine

[surreal tundra]

XD
I just- really wanted that 112 melee spec

every little bit

BTW ||Ayre's|| coral shield blocks any and all AA right? not just the coral AA?

[serene kettle]

45 firearms spec...definitely isn't good but you might be okay depending, tbh

I...honestly don't know?

I found AA effective against basically everything

as a noted AA enjoyer

[surreal tundra]

I'll be packing a linear or the JVL-Alpha, so as long as I time it right, since the tracking mainly affects the time to red reticle and where it is, IIRC

[serene kettle]

AA was the first upgrade I picked after boost kick and honestly it stayed equipped through three playthroughs

[surreal tundra]

well when her shield's down it's perfectly fine, does almost insta-stagger, but if the shield's up then no dice, not even the slightest amount of damage I think

But I always use a coral gen so I haven't seen the alternative yet, or at least- last time that I did was so long ago

[serene kettle]

that's a property of pulse shields in general

they absorb all stagger as long as they're up

[surreal tundra]

Well Balteus still takes some damage tho, to the shield

same with Snail IIRC

[serene kettle]

AA will take a good chunk out of pulse shields though

I guess I can't say with 100% certainty that I used AA against ||Ayre|| and saw the shield deplete but I'm pretty sure there's no special handling there

[surreal tundra]

yeah, and I found that with ||Ayre|| it did nothing while the shield's up- at least as far as I can tell
Maybe I was just too far away? or didn't notice it? ah well I suppose,

Overall a better idea to break the shield first anyways and save the AA for more stagger or more damage

[serene kettle]

Generally yeah

plus that boss is fast enough that landing a proper AA can be tricky

[modern hornet]

Assault Armor is generally best used when you can guarantee your opponent can't get away. Stagger punish, enemy charging in for melee, you have the enemy pinned against a corner, all of these are pretty good ways of ensuring your enemy won't be able to potentially evade your pulse explosion.

Me, I generally tend to favor the more defensive expansions, particularly Pulse Armor and Terminal Armor.

[serene kettle]

I tend to use my AA as a stagger generator rather than relying on it for damage in most fights - though in PVP I find it's most effectively used as a "get out of my face" button

either they back off or suffer for it

[iron quarry]

I found a thing frens

[serene kettle]

It's also funny as an answer in PVP to getting assault armor'd

you can activate it while staggered and it'll keep you from getting bunked or whatever their finisher plan is

[iron quarry]

I have no idea who the artist is and I need to find them

Because this is fucking hilarious

[surreal tundra]

the AA trade XD
the AI are- I think kinda okay with matching that usually?

[serene kettle]

yeah this doesn't really work as well in PvE, partially because very few enemies have AA anyway

Pulse and Terminal Armor are much more common on AC opponents

though I think most enemies have neither?

[surreal tundra]

Oh yeah,
but catch them close enough and that's gone too lmao

[serene kettle]

actually I can only think of one enemy with terminal armor off the top of my head

oh yeah a close AA will eat pulse armor in one hit and stagger them anyway

[surreal tundra]

veeery fun lmao

[serene kettle]

I've won pvp matches on this principle

it's great

[surreal tundra]

especially right after they trigger it

[serene kettle]

yeah, someone triggering pulse armor to get out of a stagger will eat shit if you counterspell with AA

[surreal tundra]

XD

[serene kettle]

it's my favorite of the options for a reason

[surreal tundra]

I had some difficulty with using it before,

mainly in forgetting I had it or being worried about not having it when I needed it,

[serene kettle]

Pulse Armor is usually considered most optimal but good AA plays will make you feel like a genius

[surreal tundra]

yeee

[serene kettle]

If you trigger someone's terminal armor with AA still in the tank it's also a good last-hitter once the TA wears off

[surreal tundra]

just knock off that last bit

[serene kettle]

it has a very wide range on the small chip, and that small chip is enough to end it

[surreal tundra]

it's basically like- 2 layers right? at least?

2 bubbles

[serene kettle]

TA was huge in my pvp group's meta for a long time

yeah

[surreal tundra]

eugh, I wish I could join PvP lmao,

[serene kettle]

one melee range "eat shit" and one longer-ranged "take a few scuffs"

[surreal tundra]

tho then again australian internet

how close is the melee range one? like 60m?

[serene kettle]

it's very short

honestly melee is generous, you practically need to be in physical contact

[cursive agate]

Around 60m yea, it's shorter than Plasma Thrower/HMMR range

[modern hornet]

I'm not all that interested in PvP, personally, but that's because I'm honestly more of a casual gamer who prefers to not have competitive spirits potentially ruining my enjoyment of a game.

[serene kettle]

to be clear I don't do like, online PVP with sweaty randos, I just play with a group of friends who also have the game

getting destroyed there is very much a "oh damn, ya got me, that build is wild"

[modern hornet]

Also I play on a PS4 and don't have PSN+, so

[serene kettle]

yeah that will also put a damper on things.

[surreal tundra]

yeah, sweaty randos make it a bit less fun at least

[surreal tundra]

so that number on the stat screen does mean something lmao

[serene kettle]

my only regret is there's only four of us so we can't do 3v3s, we just have to awkwardly queue duels and you can't deploy doubles

also, you know, 3v3 and duels are the only modes

[surreal tundra]

yeah, sucks that you can't do even just a 2v2

[serene kettle]

and there isn't like, idk. Ratchet and Clank's 3 assault mode where both sides have creep and turret defenses or something.

[surreal tundra]

TBF Iunno how a turret defense thing is gonna last very long, a good alpha strike will knock 'em out if you don't catch them in time- unless- Iunno actually, probs some way to make it work

[serene kettle]

Well, I mean like. Just a mode where it's not just ac on ac fights. Something with a sitrep or distractions.

[surreal tundra]

Yeah, that's fair

[serene kettle]

something that feels a bit more like a mission but with a human opponent

[surreal tundra]

maybe a "take out as many of the enemy's MTs as you can" or some point-based thing,

[wooden nimbus]

:/ Why this man kick me from the match

We had a nice little match, he dropped me in round one and I wore him down the next two, then I got kicked :(

Oh it was an accident 😌

[ripe crow]

I used AA against the bad ending boss in my shopless run. I had a setup that could get her to melee into an AA after taking just enough to drop her shield about 50% of the time, and I would avoid punishment 50% of the time, so one one in 4 attempts would have a great start.

[ashen monolith]

that would be iuciferic

https://fxtwitter.com/Iuciferic/status/1723127825899655175

[sharp canopy]

I just killed ALLMIND with WLFGLNT - 2x Ransetsu, 2X Ducketts

also I made the mistake of using assault armor for this, it was miserable only having an offensive solution for a defense-oriented problem

[serene kettle]

Hm, I actually think AA is probably the best choice for that fight

[sharp canopy]

I forgot to post this

[serene kettle]

The most problematic move they have is the claw attacks in phase 3, and while the tracking is ludicrous there's plenty of hangtime to use AA when it's queuing up

so you can use AA to hard counter that before you get butchered if you're in the wrong spot

[sharp canopy]

I don't really have too much issue dodging it enough that I can justify pulse armor for sustain purposes

emphasis on enough, I still get my ass beat with those attacks

[serene kettle]

it's the only final boss attack I really struggle with tbh

virtually all my deaths against the final boss are to one of two things:

1. That attack
2. I wasn't paying attention in phase 2 and get plasma beam'd by one of the sea spiders from offscreen

[sharp canopy]

do you mean the big plasma swing attack?

the one with MOONLIGHT trails?

[serene kettle]

probably, it's a big melee combo that hits for a crapton of damage

[sharp canopy]

for me I just either A: go above, or circle to the right to avoid

or B: run away and jump between the big beams

or for the close-up fast claw combo, I try to jump above, and then fail to do so 50% of the time

[serene kettle]

yeah A only works for me if there's already considerable vertical distance.

the close up fast claw combo is the problematic one

[sharp canopy]

same for me

half of the time seeing that wind up makes me panic

no, actually I panic the entire time the final phase is going on

[serene kettle]

anyway the close up fast combo's tracking is insane once it gets going, but he kind of hangs in the air in front of you for a second to telegraph it before executing

it tracks too well to escape without some very precise movement but you can hard counter it with AA

(or any other means of staggering him, but AA consistently does so and is available on command)

[cursive agate]

If it's less ridiculous than the double spin of Laser Blade then you can probably get really close, and dodge behind like avoiding Pulse Sword lunges (somewhere around 180 degrees forward of the mech).

[ashen monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p3OkgR0lH8

i knew some insane elden ring modder would figure it out eventually

[frank pivot]

HOLY

i have decided to bunk

[serene kettle]

Bunkin’ makes me feel good

I never really tried out the bunker tbh

I liked them in acvd though

[frank pivot]

it's really bad but fun in pvp

[iron quarry]

I have decided to ball

Nine ballin and can’t get up

[frank pivot]

COMMENCING

HOSTILITIES

[iron quarry]

TARGET VERIFIED

[stuck surge]

The bunker got me past nearly every boss in the game up to NG++

[surreal tundra]

whahaaat the actual fuck zxcmnc

[distant forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/657789903039627264/1176214441692516403/image.png?ex=656e0e0f&is=655b990f&hm=874c371e7d121730973dd5cf3b3c879aa8af1c5377b01425a5a4d440f3f1d547&=&width=1205&height=676

[north skiff]

https://youtu.be/9p3OkgR0lH8?si=GIrWv633zQVtaCyN

[frank pivot]

@north skiff yadana posted it the earliest of anyone i saw online actually! 😄 i'm so excited

If anyone from here wants to do a run with me we totally should

Like when it comes out

[north skiff]

ah dope, might download it later

[frank pivot]

It's not out yet 😦

[distant forge]

that would be sick

[frank pivot]

Imagine we rock up to sea spider in 6 loader 4s

[quasi copper]

everyone pick a leg and pull

[frank pivot]

Lmfao

[ripe crow]

Co-op sounds fun. I do gimmic builds so Nest can be a bit rough at times.

[final monolith]

is there anywhere I could share mech pics (for AC6)

[serene kettle]

people do it here all the time

[iron quarry]

Steel chonk

[final monolith]

The Insect

[distant forge]

that is indeed insectoid

[frank pivot]

https://vxtwitter.com/ritu_r_p_s/status/1726627525244391735

Cursed bug

[distant forge]

h o w

[distant forge]

i translated it

apparently its just a viisual bug

[frank pivot]

nooooo darn

haha

was hoping for a new speedrun strat

[serene kettle]

lol

"Moonlight goes brrrrrr"

[eager vector]

Visual Bug is my next ttrpg character name

[lethal flame]

Maybe not the best turn of phrase to use

[frank pivot]

wait what? i thought it was just old internet slang for japanese

[lethal flame]

In a vaguely racist way yes

[frank pivot]

nuh uh, really?

well that sucks

[lethal flame]

It's sort of old (albeit pretty old now) derogatory slang for asian languages

I've heard its originally from the turn A gundam english speaking fandom but that feels kind of fake to me

[frank pivot]

i gotta say it didn't ring as racist to me at all, so i don't think it'd be like

weird to have that come from an anime fandom from the what

early 2000s?

[lethal flame]

It may have lost some of that feeling now, but it used to be a very... 4chan /a/ kind of expression

[frank pivot]

i was on /a/ back in the day, and there was a lot of racism and general chuddery there (though honestly, it didn't get worse than reddit until a while later)

is it just "don't use any 4chan slang cuz the whole website is a hive of scum and villainy", cuz if so i can vibe with that

[lethal flame]

Sorry - this isn't like a formal "never say this again" mod thing I'm just bringing it up as a phrase with sordid history which you may want to avoid

[frank pivot]

aight famalam, i mean it's fair. especially given the drastic rise in anti asian hate crime in like

the us and canada

i just get prickled if i think someone's calling me racist.

which ftr reading back was just a bad kneejerk reaction

[lethal flame]

Oh yeah fair

To be clear I didn’t think you were it’s just a term I think has some history

[final monolith]

I can use the zimmys and the tiny treads nowwwww

I DRIFT TONIGHT CARRIED BY THE [EL-TL-11 Fortaleza]

[quasi copper]

My understanding was that moon runes was originally just a Turn A Gundam joke but then it spread beyond its intended audience and started getting used for evil

Just like every other single fucking Gundam meme

[ripe crow]

Has someone made a mod for a lightweight quad yet? Probably a pure hover mode specilized zippy one with poor AP/load cap?

[quasi copper]

does someone have the RaD crack pipe

[ripe crow]

what's that?

[cursive agate]

Not yet it seems, I think it would end up feeling like a Human Plus boosted biped in use.

[shut sequoia]

how's this look to y'all? I was going for a covenant purple and I think I got it

[distant forge]

might be hard to make the 20b work with that little EN lefet to spare

I'd drop either the auroraas or the rtufles

[shut sequoia]

the Auroras benefit from the EN firearm spec of your generator, this is why I went with the 20B

[frank pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/wort-wort-wort-halo-elite-dance-halo-elite-dancing-halo-persona4-elite-persona4dancing-gif-24059772

[frank pivot]

When do we get to go raid corp strongholds

[shut sequoia]

I would love a DLC where we get to continue publicly humiliating Balam

[tough fable]

Maybe bring out Daefung’s actual ace in the completed prototype for an AC boss battle

[serene kettle]

michigan in the tester...

[iron quarry]

Michigan balteus

[serene kettle]

“Gun 13! Let’s see how you do against this cockamamie machine!”

[river junco]

I expect the dlc to probably be about branch in some capacity

[frank pivot]

Maybe they'll let me hunt down raven's operator so i can get my revenge for the manual aim / loader 4 runs

[iron quarry]

Naw I want dlc where I get to play as the OG raven and his adventures with his operator

[fallen harness]

ah, the sequel
Armored Core 6: 2 (:one)
where the story ends with ||Balam kicking Arquebus out instead.|| (Spoiling because I think someone recently mentioned doing a first playthrough?)

[south oracle]

it would be very funny if ||Balam kicking Arquebus out somehow derailed ALLMIND plan so much that she has to plan the next Release after a few decades instead||

[iron quarry]

That name for a sequel would be absolutely great!

[iron quarry]

Or armored core 6 feet under

[serene kettle]

lol

This series has "Armored Core 2: Another Age" so wordplay like that is not out of the question

[serene kettle]

Cataphractn't

[final monolith]

Cataphractured

[frank pivot]

still WIP but drawing birds is HARD

what the hecc

[eager vector]

nice!

[surreal tundra]

biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirb

looks pretty good It hink

[frank pivot]

birb done

[frank pivot]

this is the heavier version i'm learning

[eager vector]

I coulda told you that was the heavier version just my lookin

[serene kettle]

i was goofing off and built a jet

simply AB places. No need to land, it's fine.

[frank pivot]

did you see the build that won the $1000 tourney?

[serene kettle]

No?

[frank pivot]

ooh i am looking for it

it's a heavy midweight that uses the NGI generator, main dish core, missiles, a coral shield, and Nebula to fly around doing hit and run attacks

it's crazy lol

[long zodiac]

I remeber seeing people talk about the idea of the sequel being a prequel following the OG Raven before we jacked their name. And the games name? Armoured Core: Last Raven/j

[ripe crow]

Raven Prior.

[hollow ridge]

I wish elcano would make rj legs

[eager vector]

huge same

[final monolith]

I have access to Laser Lance now

I am become the lancer

btw is the explosive thrower any good? it looks really cool but I want to know if it's practical

[eager vector]

from what I understand it’s pretty decent

laser lance is delectable

[final monolith]

The Insect is now The Hornet

[eager vector]

sick

[twin moss]

Ah

Snail still as punchable as ever

Got the moonlight sword finally tho!

[twin moss]

Oh boy oh boy I get to save the coral this time round

[twin moss]

Chatty and Carla are one hell of a fight!

[serene kettle]

yeeeep

my strat for that was to lure Carla into the outer ring lower level, where Chatty's Vert missiles were dramatically less effective

and where Chatty struggles to follow on Fortalezas

[twin moss]

Now I’m on Balteus 2.0

And whew I want nothing more than to grind Snail’s nose in the dirt

[twin moss]

Uno reverse

[queen willow]

https://vxtwitter.com/Iuciferic/status/1727851006208180547

[twin moss]

Sad fight time

[twin moss]

“You found a friend”😭😭😭

The soundtrack of this game is brilliant

Now I need to figure out what I’m naming my third iteration AC

[river junco]

God

Final ending spoilers ||Man O’Keefe is a fucking superstar||

||I’ve mentioned it before, but I think it’s so badass that they change sides and start fighting Allmind because they believe in humanities right to fucking suck. Like, even though shit sucks and is awful, it’s still life, and that’s worth living||

[distant forge]

it's very good

[fierce laurel]

Today is Friday in California! Post shooting Iguazu!

[wooden nimbus]

I love that Friday means we bully iguana

[twin moss]

What happens if i bully Iguazu tomorrow?

[fierce laurel]

you'll probably have a narrow window where it is still Friday in California depending on your timezone

[fierce laurel]

as an aside despite my stated commitment to trying out heavier ACs I've just been having too much fun optimizing lighter frames

The one pictured is a beast. I'll post the build next time I'm on my gameputer

At this rate I'll have to make a new years resolution to make/play heavier frames

[karmic galleon]

why?

[wooden nimbus]

I have no idea

[final monolith]

snail'd him

[eager vector]

@karmic galleon https://youtu.be/9WaYCdQ8FOQ?si=Xu91ybLXeKNm4dt3

[karmic galleon]

wunderbar

[wooden nimbus]

Oh I get that part

[fierce laurel]

Iguazu's JP VA is the guy who says "Huh?"

[wooden nimbus]

Oh my g-

Amazing

In accordance with the law

[serene kettle]

Spoiled because ng++

[wooden nimbus]

||No one can stop you now|| lmao

[fierce laurel]

Here's the fit. The legs counteract the thrusters' poor vertical thrust nicely. It zips around like mad.

[wooden nimbus]

I love the camo

"Hand it over, that thing, your pattern recognition"

[fierce laurel]

we luve the dazzle camo don't we folks

[serene kettle]

this screenshot always makes me laugh just from the massive number onscreen lmao

[wooden nimbus]

Woe, raven be upon ye

17722

[fierce laurel]

"why did you punch out"

"Raven is the opfor"

"oh Understandable have a good day"

[shut sequoia]

the G2/P05 is probably my favorite FCS

[wooden nimbus]

"It's one AC"
"Yeah and who has that one AC killed in the last 24 hours"
"Point taken"

[serene kettle]

I also have a screenshot of the same build pretty much oneshotting ||Chartreuse||

[fierce laurel]

It is shockingly lightweight for max midrange, which is where most engagements wind up

[wooden nimbus]

Give it to me

[shut sequoia]

"what do you mean Warship lost?"

[wooden nimbus]

Warships

[serene kettle]

My screenshot finger wasn't quite fast enough to get the damage number still onscreen but you can see the healthbar

[wooden nimbus]

Ye

[shut sequoia]

and it doesn't hurt missile lock correction either, always a plus

[serene kettle]

I also love the "why won't you die?!" line when this is my alpha strike and i have yet to be touched

[cursive agate]

I think it's to offset how easy it is for targets to slip into close/long when fighting from mid-range. Talbot is fierce competition with strong close-range, ok mid-range stats.

[fierce laurel]

Talbot is my usual because of how aggressively I play, G2 is what I default on when I need to get just a few extra Load or EN points free

[fierce laurel]

I've been getting some mileage out of it. Good impact and spread, especially for its low weight and energy requirements

[final monolith]

I do love big kabooms

[iron quarry]

Raven quite literally looked at the space equivalent of the IRS and was like (I’ll throw hands)

[frank pivot]

I love talbot, i wish it was also 63 midrange

[frank pivot]

We need a version of this for AC

Vespers
Redguns
RLF
Branch Mercs if you're quick
Rubicon

[iron quarry]

PCA

Wait why are we running from house merik

[frank pivot]

None of the houses are trustworthy

And the mariks are worse than untrustworthy; they're incompetent

[final monolith]

I have reached IBIS

out of the twenty times I've gone against it, three have gotten it down to the second phase and only one out of those three have gotten it to half HP

then it did the freaking manta ray attack and I was back to square one

[serene kettle]

It takes some learning! It’s a really rough fight with a rough moveset

[winged folio]

I was able to get it to like, 1/2 health second phase pretty easily and ran outta ammo xD

10x missiles on the shoulders, 4x missiles on each hand

[serene kettle]

yeah it's dodgy enough that even with missile tracking you really gotta know your moment

[cursive agate]

6/10-shot missiles can be good for pressure on Ibis, but I think Bazookas/GLs are better for hammering openings

[frank pivot]

you got this!

what build?

sometimes it can be worth slapping on a generator with a bigger energy pool to chase down openings

[final monolith]

lightweight ish build with the lance and the bunker as my main dps sources

ludlow is there for suppressive fire but I think I'm probs going to switch it for a missile launcher because dinking at the IBIS ain't cutting it

note: I don't have access to NG+ gear yet

[stuck surge]

That's pretty similar to the build I beat IBIS the first time with

[frank pivot]

I like it! You can AA ibis out of her big swoop for a free bunk or laser lance btw

[stuck surge]

I had ETSUJIN and dual 10-pack missiles plus ASHMEAD, I think, with a similarly lightweight frame

[frank pivot]

Ngl the wasp colors with lance / bunker is pog

[final monolith]

the only prob with that is that sometimes I confuse the bunker for the lance

so for clarity I might invert the color for the secondary

also I have heard something about mouse movement interfering with targeting

[frank pivot]

i have found my pvp calling

i am gonna try and make laser lance good

[serene kettle]

I used the cheese sticks (stun needles) for IBIS S-rank; it pretty handily trivializes the fight if you can land them

the first time through was a brutal montage of trying to learn the fight without getting owned though

[frank pivot]

charon, can i steal your wasp motif?

i think i'll make a wasp emblem for this goober

[high sky]

anyone have a link for a windows 4answer emulator? kinda don't have the money to spare on two and a half decade old hardware and the unscratched disk

and the monitor for said hardware

[frank pivot]

https://discord.gg/armoredcoreofficial

ask around in the official AC discord

they've got emu solutions for all the games except ac5/VD

[frank pivot]

Also try 1-2 huxleys on your back; if you catch someone with laser lance, even if they're not staggered, they get stuck to the front of the lance and carried along. Huxleys shoot them the entire time building stagger

2 hux + lance = stagger on almost anything

[high sky]

ty for that.

[final monolith]

could the laser turret (VP-60LT) work as a substitute? not on NG+ yet

[final monolith]

go aheado!

[frank pivot]

I don't think so because the lance A) carries people really far and B) moves them in 2 high speed bursts

They're only sitting still relative to your AC

[river junco]

Man I’m just thinking about how much I love the LoR ending

That shit slaps so unspeakably hard

[frank pivot]

||You earned alllll the credits||

[river junco]

||Only one person can keep up with me||

The penultimate mission of that ending is genuinely my favorite in the game

[final monolith]

so I managed to have some success with a double huben double songbird fortaleza build

BUT then the IBIS started spamming ground attacks because I didn't remember to hover every now and then

[distant forge]

i like fires of raven

ifs my fav ending

i like them all but fires is my favorite

[frank pivot]

every time i try to stream a normal, casual run of ac6 it turns into loader 4

[distant forge]

it tugged at me heartstrings

[frank pivot]

on the plus side i've gone from needing hours of grinding to beat Defend the Dam Complex to getting it 4th try

i think with a little more practice I could totally see running 4%

which is what i am calling the Loader 4 speedrun that i am cooking

[serene kettle]

Ending-wise I have to give special attention to Alea Iacta Est for the MIA mission

It's short but every bit of dialogue in that one is chilling

||A chain made of human links is easily broken.||

[frank pivot]

https://youtu.be/yQDccSZrPIs?si=xXQsmMqFupJA6aZV

CattuDoggu calls me sensei and i think it's adorable lmao

He was apparently on the verge of giving up on his loader 4, no expansions attempt until he stumbled across my stream and we had a blast as i spent 2 hours attempting Defend the Mining ship and shooting the shit lol

And then he went and got the big dub

[frank pivot]

https://youtu.be/viQqs9PdGVg?si=FjX610xK7UEclfc8

[distant forge]

I think my big self esteem booster moment was striker calling me a really good lightweight player

whenever im brought up

apparently my movement is cracked

[frank pivot]

XD

I was surprised how well Ramen did considering like, 2 weeks ago i was annihilating his lights like 85-15

[distant forge]

imo it depends almost entirely on the matchup

[frank pivot]

Hah, def

I ran into some eminently silly matchups

[surreal tundra]

oooh, which matches were those?
I think I entirely forgot who was hosting the tournament and couldn't wake up early enough to watch it anyways

might have found it-
was it on StrikerHustassa's Twitch?

[distant forge]

mhm

it was before the tourney

[twin moss]

Third playthrough emblem is a go!

[serene kettle]

Oh that's great

[twin moss]

Heck it, abstracted Ayre

[shut sequoia]

be not afraid

[frank pivot]

Not enough bikini

[distant forge]

i aint afraid im 😳

[frank pivot]

(It's a good emblem)

[distant forge]

biblically accurate mommy

[twin moss]

Escort the STRIDER mission gettin on my nerves

[serene kettle]

What weapons are you bringing?

[twin moss]

shrugs

[serene kettle]

I think that mission dramatically varies in difficulty depending on how many explosive weapons you're packing

[twin moss]

I’ve been cycling through stuff

[serene kettle]

I first try S-ranked it with Queen of Nails but some of my other builds have struggled

[fierce laurel]

My struggle build to S-rank the Strider Escort packed like 4x grenade launchers lol

[serene kettle]

explosive (not plasma) missiles are generally the most effective thing I've found against the wheels

[cursive agate]

regular missiles and bazookas/GLs helped a ton in my case.

I took the long-mid FCS (VE-21B) because of the sheer speed of enemies

[serene kettle]

though Redfin was able to oneshot groups of them with the Coral Oscillator when I could get the timing right. That was funny.

"Yeah, come at me. Do it."

[twin moss]

Cutscene at the start is getting on my nerves cuz I can’t skip it

Got it with the basic 4 cell missile launchers on the back, a handheld missile launcher and a plasma rifle

[twin moss]

“Kate Markson”

Even being spoiled this is so blatant come on Allmind

[serene kettle]

I heard she has an eight pack

It's also a reference to AC1 master of arena

which had your operator's name as Lana Nielsen

who turned out to be Nineball trolling you

[twin moss]

Her voice is Allmind with a fake mustache

[distant forge]

I s-ranked escort the strider with a missile boat and sheer determination

dual aperitifs dual coral missiles

took me like 20 tries

[stuck surge]

I S-ranked it accidentally while farming some extra COAM to buy out the store. Think I was using dual aperitifs and dual 10-cells.

[shut sequoia]

took a good picture of my lightweight AC

[serene kettle]

Yeah Queen of Nails was running dual Aperitifs and Dual ten-cells at the time

The S-rank was pretty trivial with that setup, just bunny hopping and pressing buttons

[twin moss]

Finally got Rusty’s RLF emblem! Yay!

It was because Allmind was collecting data on him and his eventual AC. Booo

[frank pivot]

Post your favorite screenshot you've taken of ac6 and why

For me getting loader 4 to clear the entire game was a huge feat and took AGES

[twin moss]

It’s a tie between the best action shot I’ve ever managed in Sunflare, my first AC, or FINALLY getting to kill Snail with a Stun needle. As god intended

[frank pivot]

I love the one on the left haha

[serene kettle]

that does rule

I'm fond of this one, both an action shot and a pretty good decal shot from my first time through

also this one but mostly because it makes me laugh every time (NG++)

[twin moss]

Got a nice action shot of my 3rd play through AC, Parallaxis

[fierce laurel]

This one I think has the best composition, but I can't take all the credit considering it was a cinematic.

[wooden nimbus]

Still

[wooden nimbus]

🤔 does anyone know if you can use reshade on ac6 without anticheat thinking you're doing something ban worthy

I want to see if I can make it look funny

[frank pivot]

LOL star wars: squadrons went on sale for $2

highly recommend it if you like schmoovement

[fallen verge]

<@&1146476468453511168>

pvp?

[final monolith]

(1) Ice Worm-ing (2) Snailing it

best part was I managed to beat snail on the first try with my trusty double stingers

[frank pivot]

I found your next emblem

[final monolith]

buzzbuzz

I have access to laser drones now

(Freud got sent to the subconscious after 13 seconds and the good ol' one-two stingers)

[serene kettle]

Yellowjacket was the name of my AC:VD mech

I was a little annoyed to find out From's netcode censors that in AC6

also Lumberjack, though I just stuck a 4 in place of the A there

good enough

[torn jungle]

https://vxtwitter.com/mikehsueh/status/1705513659626365377

[fierce laurel]

tried making the most maximum 'turn brain off' build I could think of and here it is

w+shift+M1+M2+E+Q and keep pressing W after lockon

here's me S-Ranking Balteus with it

funnily enough moving forward with boost is enough to functionally auto-dodge you because you whip around so often

[frank pivot]

Nice comedic framing

I can just see you standing there railing bullets into its corpse

[fierce laurel]

thats literally what I'm doing, you can see the spent brass

but yes, intended effect

[frank pivot]

Lmao i went back and re-read my brain-fried-post-work typing and realized

It did NOT communicate what i wanted it to 😂

SO

To be clear: the comedic framing is excellent. It's just super funny

[frank pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782639097155420161/1178540447979802634/beinganaceissuffering.jpg?ex=65768453&is=65640f53&hm=59fb5799d5fae1f4c29fcdafaef2fe89195d742ff2656f7376448a802e6e3bb6&

this post was so old that i couldn't find a source

but these are megucas as ace combat emblems

[south oracle]

oh good lord these are ancient

how do I recognize these

[shut sequoia]

Mami as Razgriz, Madoka as Mobius 1, and Homura as Galm team

I don't know the others

[distant forge]

this is surprisingly my most brain-off AC

shoot, kick, shoot, kick, shoot, kick, shoot, kick, repeat until enemy is dead

shield when needed, AB away and kite with VPM to let ACS strain wear off

this is after attack the dam ecomplex(alt)

i literally just kicked volta into a corner and shot him until he died

[cursive agate]

Kyoko has a variant of Yellow Squadron (156th Tactical Fighter Wing "Aquila")
Sayaka I think is based on Jack Bartlet's emblem ("Heartbreak One")

[shut sequoia]

ahh

jfc the file name is beinganaceissuffering

[frank pivot]

i hope ace combat 8 is good

i can't believe after 7 was a smash hit that PA has taken so long to start work on another

[cursive agate]

I'd guess taking a break from the push to get AC7 out the door, though they've also made a lot of DLC planes for AC7

[frank pivot]

I mostly mean like... ten million relief plan dropped in like what, november 2019?

And they're just now starting on ac8 about 5 years later

[cursive agate]

Oh jeez yea

[frank pivot]

i figured out what i think i wanna do in ac7 to stand out

ramen is the only lw player

i shall become the only mw player

lol

[fierce laurel]

I have further refined the BRAIN OFF BUILD. It is now even faster.

had no idea the Nacht arms were that strong, did this come with a recent patch?

[serene kettle]

they've always been the ones with maxed firearm spec

idk what else they've got going for them though

[fierce laurel]

Huh. I thought a different stat governed their carrying capacity

[serene kettle]

Oh you're talking about max load limit

IDK lol

[cursive agate]

Nach arms always had the same Arm Load Capacity, patches only buffed it's Recoil Control, and reduced EN Load cost.

[fierce laurel]

dang

[ripe crow]

Arm load is a stat that basically doesnt matter unless you run a karasawa.

or, like, double grenage launchers/bazookas on ultralight arms, and even that's a close thing.\

[final monolith]

starting to think I should turn my hornet into a bumblebee to deal with Ibis

[distant forge]

tian quiang head seems good for its low weight an EN load but it also tanks your stats

i avoid it like the plague

especially because ACS stability is so, so important and only your legs, core, and head contribute to it

[frank pivot]

Add a bazooka

[final monolith]

a bumbling bee

[final monolith]

so far the most success has been with a fortaleza build with double hubens and double songbirds

the problem is conserving repair cap enough to ensure that the second phase doesn't screw me over

[frank pivot]

if you want to see some of the dodge timings and stuff

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1987460528?t=01h45m40s

this was my last run i streamed a couple days ago, did it with Loader 4 so you should be able to copy some of the dodges no matter what AC you build

[frank pivot]

Phase 1 of this was really good, phase 2 i kind of turned off my brain to unga bunga since i only took like 2000 damage total in phase 1

[viral wyvern]

gotta post my beloved new AC, RADAR BALLET

[frank pivot]

Classy

[wooden nimbus]

Love the look

[chrome bronze]

https://vxtwitter.com/_7albi/status/1729462781181870440?s=46&t=fIUfY3FiRXkmKVbIBdHHIw

[eager vector]

No pilebunk ibis

https://youtu.be/MulZAPDOrzE?si=fxsrfbj_-U6jxriB

[river junco]

Little Ziyi is like my background character star

She’s my wife

[final monolith]

stun needle is pretty darn good

[river junco]

I think “the rubiconians will wallow in ash no more” is going to be one of those lines that lives in my head forever now

[frank pivot]

i hope someday from puts the voice lines about her driving og STEEL HAZE on the ground back into the game

would make liberator even better than it already is

[river junco]

YEAH ITS SO GOOD

TBH

I kinda want a DLC campaign about being an RLF member

Doing guerilla shit

[frank pivot]

does anyone have the training mode AC builds?

[frank pivot]

i quite like this one

i tested it by hand to make sure the speed matched up. not sure on the FCS, but everything else is correct

[final monolith]

that color scheme is sweet

[frank pivot]

haha, alas i didn't come up with it myself

[frank pivot]

curtis still feels kinda bad

but overall i like this build a lot haha

[fierce laurel]

Why not upgrade to Harris? It looks like you have the capacity for it

[frank pivot]

it's a copy of one of the training builds

[fierce laurel]

ah

[frank pivot]

i actually had to downgrade the fcs cuz apparently it uses the starter fcs 💀

[sharp canopy]

I realized the power of the ALLMIND detonating missile shoulder weapons today

they're like friggin' songbirds without the need to pause

[serene kettle]

oh yeah the jav betas are fun

I use them on lumberjack

[frank pivot]

Try the p10SLT fcs! I recommend one javelin beta and one active homing missile

The double homing missiles are great too

[sharp canopy]

isn't that the missile-specific FCS?

I remember using them a lot at first, but favoring the Balam FCSs because of their bullet tracking, and kind of just wait really hard as the gauges fill for missiles

[frank pivot]

It is! 42 shortrange (better than p05) 52 midrange (indistinguishable from talbot)

It's a shockingly functional fcs for yeeting bullets at people especially in pve

[keen hedge]

Also like no EN Load, I love that one

[final monolith]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

didn't get to finish it with a glorious lance charge/pilebunk, but some fireworks of plasma will do

[final monolith]

good ol' GMS Assault Rifle

[frank pivot]

Big lore spoilers

RRI is almost a 1:1 with NERV

||Walter's dad is Gendo. Nagai is Fuyutsuki. Walter's mom (who is killed in coral experimentation, as per Nagai's Log #3) is Yui. Carla is Misato. Walter is Shinji.||

||I think that the implication of the HAL series being titled "WLT" on all its weaponry is that it was meant to be piloted by Walter. Even before the Fires. I think this strongly implies that Walter was planned to be the next augmentation subject. The RRI was only missing one thing before they could achieve Coral Release: a person capable of acting as the key.||

[sharp canopy]

Oh yeah, double homing missiles

I sometimes like running quad because then I just let the sheer swarm of semismart munitions do the thinking for me while I pepper an opponent

[distant forge]

no wonder ending 3 gave me eva vibes

[serene kettle]

Congratulations!

[distant forge]

made an attempt at a lighter version of SOLANUM

ac name: IRIS

u know i had 2 put the transgender on the shoulder

[serene kettle]

naming your mech rainbow and no rainbow pattern? 💀

[frank pivot]

holy shit everyone change ur names to "kissinger died"

[wooden nimbus]

wait what

[serene kettle]

i'm going to not do that because there's a specific server rule against gravedancing

[serene kettle]

well nevermind then

woot

[ripe crow]

rule suspended temporarally on the grounds of "fuck that guy"

[serene kettle]

Based

💃

[wooden nimbus]

amazing

[wooden nimbus]

Unrelated I am back to using Aperitif

[frank pivot]

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[distant forge]

how u likin it

im honstly so-so about aperitif

that reload HURTS

[summer trellis]

i like it w/ laser lancer + choice of missiles

[south oracle]

https://youtu.be/oOpAblrq4Q0?si=jVYGKjvm8zjdzw5p would you like your mind to be exploded

[surreal tundra]

oh holy shit
wonder where his grave is

[wooden nimbus]

I genuinely wish they'd made it worse in every other aspect rather than the slower reload it has post nerf but they're great in keeping enemies eyes on them and not the giant missiles slowly approaching them.

[wet shard]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FWVXXIEkz8M&pp=ygUPYWMgZ2FyYWdlIHRoZW1l

[fierce laurel]

snagged this shot

[serene kettle]

Banger

[wooden nimbus]

vibes

[frank pivot]

i am getting close to finally doing loader 4 vs ice worm