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#Armored Core General!
twin moss
I wish there was a checkpoint at Ayre’s half health
serene kettle
I'm sorry you're struggling so much with this one, I wish I could provide better tips 😭
proven bison
Behold
twin moss
My frustration is very much at this point I feel like I’m doing everything right and then the AI does like 1 thing differently and that fucks over the whole run
And this 1 bit is holding hostage a whole bunch of new content I want to see
and I can’t
proven bison
Maybe take a break for a while? I always seem to perform better when I've taken a break from things. Destroy some old missions, kill some guys in PvP, just do something else for an hour or so
twin moss
Maybe in a bit
I’ve been at this for
Well this is once again my third day doing this
I’ve got her down to 1/4th
It’s only a matter of RNG for good patterns and laser drone hits
twin moss
There is no way this shit ain’t scripted at this point I swear
I can’t hang onto my health past halfway point even if I’m like perfect in my execution
proven bison
Yeah that fight is a major bitch
Hardest fight in the game imo
Except for maybe the final final boss
Perhaps try messing with your OS tuning to max out defences?
serene kettle
I found Ibis harder tbh
Ayre I beat on my third attempt and S-ranked first attempt after that
twin moss
Ibis has a pattern that isn’t dependent on me
proven bison
Ayre is Ibis on crack
twin moss
Ayre’s pattern is ‘be behind me’
serene kettle
okay, you are hardlocking, right?
proven bison
Hardlock helps a lot with that
twin moss
Depends on how I feel
serene kettle
because with hardlock she shouldn't be able to get behind you very frequently at all
twin moss
Sometimes it fucks me up
cursive agate
When you see the normal melee, dodge into/under + behind and it's a free damage window.
serene kettle
yeah, she has some wide telegraphs and a lot of her moves are easier to punish than most of IBIS's
I hit her with songbirds no trouble
cursive agate
||button mashing the special moves||
proven bison
Slight sidenote but I wish we got LOC station 31 as a PvP arena
serene kettle
Ayre I beat on my third attempt and S-ranked first attempt after that
(this was NG too, so it's not just a case of "lol op NG+ mech wrecks her")
and my NG build wasn't even good!
melee without basho arms and a really awkward 80kish weight with Keikakus
...Kikakus
Hardlock is absolutely a night and day difference for that fight though
so if you're not hardlocking that would definitely explain why you're finding it much tougher than I did
ripe crow
I dont know if it matters, but I beat her with Spring Chicken reverse joints- I felt like the floaty jump threw off a bunch of her attack targeting.
twin moss
I am using spring chicken
proven bison
skip to 5 minutes for an unexpected cameo
Nice
chrome bronze
https://youtu.be/xybMG-EGo4o?si=aJ-rhtqZfOgj5I4u
Ayyy nice
serene kettle
skip to 5 minutes for an unexpected cameo
||grats on the win lol "I got bunked! what a chad"||
stuck surge
Ayre’s pattern is ‘be behind me’
I beat Ayre pretty easily by keeping her at long range and bombarding her with missiles.
proven bison
I hear double laser turrets are pretty good now, I might have to try them
ashen monolith
i was inspired by a post on the ac6 reddit and made full builds for the three licenses you find at the start, and they all ended up surprisingly fun to play! here's photo ops of them presumably before dying horrible deaths at the contaminated city
proven bison
Don't worry, the next ending is far better, and you get to look forward to the rite of passage: obliterating Balteus on ng+
twin moss
Get out of here I want the better ending
ripe crow
Now I’m just depressed
When I did it, I spent the rest of the evvening rushing to Baltaus and 1st trying him.
lots of trash missions you beat in like 3 minutes.
ripe crow
The only curveball is when you help the redguns... and get a better offer.
ripe crow
My tears ain’t ever dry yet
that's what the credits are for.
twin moss
The credits were making me sadder
Only thing I didn’t like other than everything
Is that Carla didn’t do a last farewell before well waves at the end
Not even a “Thanks for the adventure Tourist”
Also Allmind being sus in the way she welcome me back
proven bison
<@&1146476468453511168> anyone up for some casual PvP?
ripe crow
Also Allmind being *sus* in the way she welcome me back
is that the first hint of allmind being sus?
twin moss
No
proven bison
is that the first hint of allmind being sus?
No I believe the first hint is the ghost mech in grid 135
ripe crow
https://youtu.be/xybMG-EGo4o?si=aJ-rhtqZfOgj5I4u
I've been thinking about making an ultralight AC even since I saw the booster video. I dont have Terminal armor, though
river junco
Two Truenos, a needle pistol, and the pile bunker
the needle gun and the truenos build stagger at close range incredibly reliably, letting you BUNK easy
twin moss
Now the question is should make a new decal set for New Game?
ashen monolith
i was inspired by a post on the ac6 reddit and made full builds for the three li...
...actually, the fact we see three ACs dead in one zone followed by raven makes me think in-universe raven defeated all of them before being ganked at the top of the tower for... some reason
possibly jumpscared by the helicopter
proven bison
Would make sense, PCA doesn't like Raven much
twin moss
Nightfall Raven’s AC was in transport before it was shot down
ashen monolith
ah, right
checked again
i suppose the PCA were racking up a high body count there, then
twin moss
I would die to be able to fiddle around with the decal maker while not in my game but at that point it’d just be photoshop with extra steps tied to a single game
ashen monolith
i feel that
armored core 6 drains my ancient battery even while hooked up to power, so i'm on a bit of a time limit when i play
proven bison
What exactly is the significance of LOC station 31? 2/3 final boss fights take place on it, and Branch apparently launched an attack on it that involved an entire fleet of warships
ashen monolith
i suspect it controls the closure satellites in some manner
river junco
its also the satellite that shoots u down
proven bison
its also the satellite that shoots u down
That satellite is different. It's in the background of the battle against ||Ayre||
serene kettle
tbh I'm not sure it has any specific significance. It's just where ||Ayre|| is waiting for you. And ||it's already a space map they can reuse for a certain later fight||
ashen monolith
i suspect it controls the closure satellites in some manner
yeah, that does sound right
serene kettle
oh I missed that
yeah nevermind that's a much stronger indication it's important
maybe it's even where The System is based
ashen monolith
so the reason ||we head there in shut down the closure satellites is, in fact, to shut down the closure satellites||
serene kettle
crazy, truly
ashen monolith
||dunno about ALLMIND though, maybe it just thought it'd be a cool setpiece||
serene kettle
||Maybe Allmind was already setting up there after the PCA fell apart on that route, and that's where she seized control of all the PCA stuff Arquebus thought they'd taken possession of from||
ashen monolith
||that is true, AI recognizes AI||
serene kettle
Doylist reason, of course, is it means they could just reuse a map instead of making a new one
split gorge
||could also be that Walter and Carla were heading there to do what you were supposed to do in the FoR ending, but got ambushed by ALLMIND||
serene kettle
they do quite a lot of that in this game
ashen monolith
yup
serene kettle
sidenote, does the scale of xylem abruptly changing between its first appearance and its later appearances changing bother anyone else?
like. It's so much visibly bigger a location before ||taking off|| lol
ripe crow
I am a madman.
ashen monolith
i can only assume it's an open world style "we couldn't fit all of this into a walkable map"
proven bison
I can see the reason. If we got ||Colony Ship|| Xylem on the same scale of ||Floating City|| Xylem it would be ridiculously huge
ripe crow
No shit, the junk arms are the lightest I have unlocked.
serene kettle
yeah, I get it, it just throws me
ripe crow
with decent melee spec
split gorge
it's kinda funny to see this sleek new mech model with two bootleg arms
proven bison
Perfect 7500 AP, so no complaints from me
serene kettle
Ming-Tang? way too functional
ashen monolith
*note: this was pre-patch so it actually has good stability now, but the AP value still stands
and i did switch it out for the joso afterwards
serene kettle
a real shitty AC6 MT wouldn't even have boosters 😛
cursive agate
Pulse pistol is surprisingly useful
Benefits heavily from the Recoil Control buff most arms got.
serene kettle
(MTs varied a lot in older games though - there were some pretty damn weak ones, but there were also some types that were genuinely serious threats - and I don't just mean bosses. The Storch/Stork was a reverse-joint terror with pretty good flight/mobility, quad rifles that did pretty ok damage, and like 5000 AP each.)
these motherfuckers
AP numbers in AC6 are similar to, maybe a little higher than AC1 AP
river junco
there are some threatening MTs in 6 in terms of tetras at least
ashen monolith
that is true, there were a lot
serene kettle
that's true, the Tetras are rough before you've learned to dunk on them
ashen monolith
i mostly grew up on 4th gen's normals, which are pretty much universally cannon fodder
proven bison
Both are MTs
ashen monolith
but yeah, MT stands for a lot
cursive agate
Laser MTs in general are quite a threat, ||especially the ones you deal with on the way to stop V.I Freud||.
serene kettle
they're just not NEXTs
ashen monolith
including the massive MT in ac3
serene kettle
that's more in the realm of a boss but yeah
proven bison
What does NEXT stand for anyways
ashen monolith
What does NEXT stand for anyways
who knows
i don't think it was ever written to stand for anything
proven bison
Nintendo extra xylophone trombone
serene kettle
I brought up the Stork as my example though because it's definitely not a boss of any kind, just a really tough "standard" enemy
split gorge
probably just meant to be a cool name for the "next" generation of mechs
ashen monolith
fair enough
funny enough next wasn't capitalized in the EU localization of armored core 4
got changed for FA because it looks cooler
frank pivot
Last Raven has these dual laser cannon MTs
There's one level where you fight them inside a hydroelectric plant, and it's all tight quarters with insane levels of ECM disabling your lock on
Every now and then you'll just eat a quarter of your HP in one shot lmao
frank pivot
I started with LR cuz people said it was the hardest
It's pretty fun actually, you have access to a HUGE shop initially and make TONS of money
The missions vary in toughness for sure, and there are some very "you must be this speed to ride" bosses
I don't think it'd be realistic to do the game with the starter AC without cheesing the AI sometimes
river junco
NG++ ||coral rifle aqcuired hehehehhehe||
ripe crow
I have surpassed Rank F in the arena, with a 41000 weight mech
serene kettle
Nooooo! Mad STOOOOOMP!
serene kettle
The real pain of the early arena ranks is Maeterlinck
proven bison
Double bubble is scary
ashen monolith
briefly doing a test from low to high rank, i'm fairly certain enemy templates have various levels of tuning
index dunham feels like he takes a lot more damage than thumb dolmayan using the same weapons
cursive agate
Thumb Dolmayan has pretty consistently felt really tanky for a biped build
serene kettle
Maeterlinck also has a FASAN and tries to make use of Elevation to catch you in it
just a nasty, nasty build early on
swift nacelle
My personal arena walls are Freddie and Volta
proven bison
Volta is just a pain
ashen monolith
and the second time i went through ng0 after my save corrupted i was surprised at how much i once again had to fight for it
proven bison
In general
ashen monolith
won on my first try but was on 3 digit AP
volta is That arena opponent
the obligatory grenade launcher tankleg
serene kettle
volta is also rough but I'm calling C midrank rather than Early
I only had trouble with Freddie in the actual mission
stuck surge
Man the Truenos look so cool, but they feel really awkward to use
river junco
IMO it heavily depends on what you're facing
swift nacelle
Listen, if ||rusty|| is willing to use them, then they certainly have their charms
river junco
If you can figure out the right moment to fire them they fucking HURT
quasi copper
Truenos are shoulder linear rifles send tweet
serene kettle
Lul
distant forge
Dual ear shots are fun
north skiff
Anyone down for some late night pvp in like 30??
frank pivot
too many invisible lasers last time
twin moss
Say hello to EclipseBringer! The 2.0 paint job and build I will be working with for play through NG+
south oracle
so I tried a rather different aesthetic for my light AC
where the big arms AC has high health and defense, the big core light AC has high health, defense, and stability
well, unfortunately they do lack mobility because most heavy core has low booster efficiency
ashen monolith
dafeng's stout tree slender branches philosophy
serene kettle
tru
frank pivot
i gave in to the meta
holy shiiiiiit this thing is so much fun
i think the real meta version goes without the laser turret, and instead opts for just the dagger combo, and that lets them run the uh, really big generator
not the coral one but the internal combustion one with giga capacity
quasi copper
Is Wyatt Earp the meta now
frank pivot
More or less 😂
You dash around people with vientos and then stagger punish with the basho dagger for like 5000 AP
You have assault armor to counter pulse shields and AA on enemies
south oracle
the dagger hurts a whole lot when you smack a staggered target with it
frank pivot
So if someone tries to stuff the combo you just burst the AA and hit them with the dagger again, because its cooldown is extremely short
south oracle
only problem is the dagger cannot stagger and also its range is short so you can't hit moving target with it for the most part
frank pivot
Yes. But the pulse scutum can be outmaneuvered now that lights are good
The shields are good against the build as are heavies and tanks
Manual aim earshots are also fantastic vs lights
south oracle
also I have decided that, if I'm gonna make a light missile build, I'm gonna make the the most silly one, with the crappy wrecker arm
disgusting, perfect
serene kettle
God i love the lascannon
Both because it’s good and because the art direction is a direct callback to the originals
frank pivot
i gave in to the meta
This build, but with huxley instead of laser turret? It s h r e d s
The only thing that stops it is lag
river junco
I saw a theory that 621’s brain is implanted in their AC and I know that’s probably not true but I love that being the reason you’re so good
Some sonnie’s edge stuff
lethal flame
It... might
The story trailer has your plastic wrapped corpsey body stop breathing when the mech lights turn on
south oracle
probably not
lethal flame
(Though I don't know how the jailbreak would work haha)
south oracle
Iguazu is also a 4th gen and he sucks ass
at piloting
and also as a person in general
urban knoll
Could just be that 621 links to the AC and becomes a vegetable for a while
south oracle
I think 621 is good because, they are good
river junco
Iguazu is also a 4th gen and he sucks ass
Oh that’s fair I meant 621 explicitly
lethal flame
Yeah I like the idea that Rubicon is both important but sort of a backwater and 621 is like a rare imported high end killer
urban knoll
Thinking of updating my Hundred Blossoms build with the new changes but the amount of testing I need to do for it
river junco
Yeah I like the idea that Rubicon is both important but sort of a backwater and ...
Especially with the emotional dampening thing
Weird that didn’t work on iguazu actually, he’s one of the most outwardly emotional guys in the game
I’ve seen people depict
621 as VERY fucked up
In the sense that like… there’s real body horror shit going on
frank pivot
I think 621 is pretty badly damaged physically, but definitely intact
Just given that 621 gets put into and taken out of stasis and sees a mech they drive from the outside
lethal flame
Yeah I think that makes the most sense
river junco
Mhm
ripe crow
621 is post season 2 IBO main character.
south oracle
oh yeah I can see that
south oracle
so, it might just be me feeling it
but I have a feeling that Volta got even harder after patch 1.03
he is very much tanky as heck, fitting for being the only pilot in the series so far with the heavy tank leg
the bazooka shell is also fast as hell now so it is dangerous as heck
cursive agate
I'm pretty sure Volta is a rougher fight yea, faster reload time makes it very rough without using cover/Pulse Armor/Pulse Protection.
south oracle
also doesn't help that he's the only pilot in the entire arena line up that uses the dreaded big shotgun too
even after being nerfed, it still deals a lot of damage
swift nacelle
You mean if he had a…..cannon head
ripe crow
just beat matterlick with a 50k weight ultralight. Long range harassment outranging his pulsegun with handgun and moonlight blade, swapping to fist and pilebunker when he gets in close.
proven bison
Wait, does 50k weight count as ultralight?
ripe crow
eh, it didnt used to. But they got rid of the performance spike below 50k
ripe crow
The video above considers "lightweights" now to be under 60-ish tons
north skiff
Lmao this intro https://youtu.be/qYt-3pnzrPs?si=lvmo7C7wFr2oBusR
chrome bronze
ripe crow
...Volta is blocking my lightweight hangar melee build. A good run goes past half HP. A great run gets to about a quarter.
frank pivot
https://vxtwitter.com/_7albi/status/1711403225981792465?s=46&t=fIUfY3FiRXkmKVbIB...
when the yaoi hands hit just right
xD great art tho
proven bison
<@&1146476468453511168> anyone up for some casual PvP? I'm free for a few hours
chrome bronze
when the yaoi hands hit just right
Big hands are as important to the genre as love between men
frank pivot
...Volta is blocking my lightweight hangar melee build. A good run goes past hal...
i am running the game with a ch1 parts only lightweight and it's definitely a fight that demands a good QB cooldow
*cooldown
i did 1 attempt and it was kinda sloppy but i beat him first try, i'm uploading the clip now so you can check out the build and the strat
frank pivot
...Volta is blocking my lightweight hangar melee build. A good run goes past hal...
it's still being processed so it's potato quality rn
but yeah that's about how it looks
proven bison
Volta is just the bane of lightweights
quasi copper
Do not hug Volta
proven bison
Need to make a few counter builds
frank pivot
hugging volta is actually pretty important
you just need to dodge well
in particular dodging 2-3x in a row is how you make him waste his shots then punish when he's on cooldown
proven bison
Anti missile launcher build seems needed
quasi copper
idk I outranged him when I did my Arena fight with Volta
frank pivot
yeah it's definitely an option
quasi copper
stood at plasma rifle range and dodged the grenades
frank pivot
i just really love cqc lights
chrome bronze
Do not hug Volta
I will hug who I wish
frank pivot
Hopefully that vid helped
stuck surge
I got Volta with vertical missiles from behind the rocks
cursive agate
Volta does struggle with hugging range strafing because of tank leg limits, I've noticed he'll try to QB sideways sometimes to get space
proven bison
Double jammers and double turrets, with pulse protection seems to work well against carla
Nevermind it really doesnt
ripe crow
So I've got a gameplan vs Volta, that half the time lets me deal 15% damage and 60% stagger to Volta, and also, half the time lets me get away with minimal damage, in the opening salvo. So I'm resetting 75% of attempts immediately, but the remaining attempts are going better.
I've also discovered that, with my booster, the pilebunker actually has a minimum range- too close, and Volta dodges, even from stagger.
done!
And C rank complete. Only Sulla, the wheelchare user, took more than 1 try.
frank pivot
And C rank complete. Only Sulla, the wheelchare user, took more than 1 try.
Did that cqc light vid i posted help at all? 😄 ggs!
ripe crow
Sorry, I didnt wait for it to load. This is all from grinding Volta. (also, B rank complete! Also, damn milktooth, cant range my pilebunkers if he's hiding in the flames)
ripe crow
looks like A rank is where mere fundamentals dont get me relatively easy wins. made it past G2 and Snail with a bunch of work each, and Charteruse is taking his turn to kick my butt.
serene kettle
Chartreuse is a bulldozer but kind of folds like paper against anything that does decent stagger in my experience
ripe crow
Problem is, he's REALLY fast with the pulse shield.
and I keep taking my eye off the bazookas.
serene kettle
…I don’t think I’ve ever seen her use the pulse shield, wild.
ripe crow
Maybe she saves it for when she's staggered and about to be hit by a pile bunker? Comes out INSTANTLY, every time.
serene kettle
When you’re staggered or right beforehand is generally when you want to be whipping out the panic pulse armor, yeah.
Interesting that she’s so efficient with it in your game though
proven bison
Just tear through it with a bubblegun. Those things are super underrated imo
serene kettle
(NG+)||Defend the Dam|| is one of my standard build test missions and I have a lot of practice deleting Chartreuse in two seconds flat lol
ripe crow
Just tear through it with a bubblegun. Those things are super underrated imo
Perhaps. I'm trying to master a lightweight Pilebunker/moonlight hangar build. I've got machine gun and machine pistol in the offhand for long range harassment, but I might be able to swap the pistol to a pulse gun...
24 point EN shortfall. but I can keep the pistol+bubblegun
proven bison
Just was told bubblegun is not effected by EN Spec. Very sad day for the build
Just found info from a reddit post that they are? Very confused
ripe crow
It's working, but it's taking a bit to add right hand switching into my play.
cursive agate
Just was told bubblegun is not effected by EN Spec. Very sad day for the build
I'm quite sure Pulse Gun counts for EN Firearm Spec, since it's an energy weapon without it's own power source.
- Aurora (Light Wave Cannon) after v1.0.3.1
proven bison
Oh cool
ripe crow
And charteruse is finally defeated.
And Dolmyan falls as well. A rank complete.
King and Michigan felt really swingy. I got a little lucky after a few tries and they fell apart.
river junco
Man
Imma be real
I have no fucking idea how to use the coral rifle
Specifically it’s Big Hose
The only thing I can think is having it constantly charging and hitting someone the instant I stagger them
iron quarry
Hello fellow bunk enthusiasts
ripe crow
Moonlight/bunker
river junco
We be bunkin
iron quarry
Get bunked on
ripe crow
I spent more time trying to beat Volta with this build (well, basically this build, some tweaks), that it took to finish the ENTIRE REST of the arena
...and this is how long it took to beat Volta again.
frank pivot
If you have around .5s qb reload time, you can zoom up to him, qb 2-3 times in a row, hit him with whatever, and then back off to repeat
That's pretty much what i found out
ripe crow
Idealy, this means I'm ready to take this build into the Nest.
frank pivot
Idealy, this means I'm ready to take this build into the Nest.
I think you'll want some form of stagger generation
ripe crow
Pistol in the right hand, with the moonlight for larger chunks.
frank pivot
Moonlight isn't going to hit in neutral very much due to its tracking, it's more of a punish weapon
If you want a neutral melee weapon probably the BU/TT pulse blade is your best choice?
Spacing a charged pulse blade hit into a little bit of chip stagger can get you stuns for your pile bunker
ripe crow
Might be possible. I've shut down the game for the night. Volta, the entire rest of the arena, and volta again has me wired.
I'm worried that pulse blade would actually get me TOO close to use the pile bunker. It seems to overshoot if I use it too close.
serene kettle
pulse blade is my fav melee weapon just for its sheer flexibility
It's movement tech! It's pulse shield deletion! It does respectable stagger! It's a brutal punisher!
quasi copper
it does so much
ripe crow
I basically started with the moonlight, fist, and hangar pistol for an ultralight build. The pile bunker got added later as I refined the build.
quasi copper
its charged function is kinda wack tho
chrome bronze
Anyone have that one Twitter comic that has the hot 621?
And it’s like rusty doing the “shit they’re hot” meme?
ripe crow
I saw one with furry 621 mummy, wolf rusty, and weasel Gun5
quasi copper
It's weird
fallen harness
And it’s like rusty doing the “shit they’re hot” meme?
chrome bronze
Thank you
quasi copper
Iguazu's associated animal is a stag beetle
ashen monolith
childhood is using all the new melee weapons, adulthood is realizing the starter pulse blade is the best one
well.... it's a little more complicated than that actually
ashen monolith
if you see his emblem up close it's a series of ants bringing the head of a stag beetle
chrome bronze
https://twitter.com/DaneCelestia/status/1702297339640332544
Ok so needed to confirm something
quasi copper
oh huh
ashen monolith
for, well, head bringer
quasi copper
yeah, shit, I guess
chrome bronze
This rusty design is wearing a mini skirt and leggings
chrome bronze
if you see his emblem up close it's a series of ants bringing the head of a stag...
Oh wow I never noticed that
I always just thought it was a stag beetle
frank pivot
is thata miniskirt or a really weird jumpsuit
i think it's a skirt cuz it looks like he's wearing really tall boots too
i love that design, it looks so fucking cool
no chance we'd ever see it in a AAA game tho
quasi copper
I'm trying to parse it
frank pivot
to me it looks like he's got a dress thingy on under the jacket
then techno garters and tall boots
quasi copper
it's very ambiguous if it's, like, miniskirt/high boots, boilersuit, or some truly hexed combination where it's a boilersuit that cuts off midway down the thigh and then high boots
serene kettle
idk we just established that Mad Tongue Alberich in Elden Ring shows up onscreen wearing leather thigh-highs. Those are on the male model too, it's not shapeshifting gendered clothing :p
frank pivot
it's hard to mix such clearly gendered clothes and have it come out looking that good
it's prolly why that rusty design is such a standout
quasi copper
wait hold up
in the next panel Rusty's got more pilot suit, it goes over the entire arm/chest and up to the neck
frank pivot
post it 👀
quasi copper
I'm calling it, it's a full body suit with a jacket over top
peak prawn
The only thing I can think is having it constantly charging and hitting someone ...
From what I've seen that is, in fact, how you use it
One pvp vid I saw has truenos on the shoulders and coral permacharing in the right hand, they land the 4 missile volley for a stagger and then bust out the final flash
quasi copper
...around the mid-thigh area?
frank pivot
yeah
like uh, maybe a mounting point for some sort of futuristic g suit airbag
it could be two separate bands, one around each thigh
quasi copper
From what I've seen that is, in fact, how you use it
One pvp vid I saw has truen...
Coral Rifle is a beautiful weapon because it holds two spots simultaneously, it functions as a backbone damage dealing weapon with its tap fire and stage 1 charged attacks and is hard to overheat unless you really spam the hell out of it
Stage 2 is a dedicated option for erasing targets once they're staggered, or if you're really ballsy, you can use it to punish assault boosts
frank pivot
Now i personally prefer the miniskirt rusty b/c that's how i saw it the first time in my head
proven bison
And supports my theory that Rusty canonically wears a kilt because of the Alba legs
quasi copper
oh also that Rusty is just a ripped older Kamille Bidan
frank pivot
No idea who that is 😂
quasi copper
get thee some Zeta Gundam
actually
if you liked AC6 unironically watch some Gundam UC, Fires of Rubicon is particularly Gundam-flavored Armored Core
quasi copper
oh right
so, Gundam doesn't have continuity between every show, and the best writer the series has (Yoshiyuki Tomino) only worked on the Universal Century shows and specifically Gundam AGE and Reconguista in G
frank pivot
The best parts were the tiny bits of LoGH space politics
quasi copper
yeah
you want Gundam UC
that's where all the space politics stuff happens
The must-watches are the MSG 0079 movies (Mobile Suit Gundam, Mobile Suit Gundam 2: Soldiers of Sorrow, and Mobile Suit Gundam 3: Encounters in Space) (don't watch the series, it's jank), then War in the Pocket, Gundam 0080: Stardust Memory, and then Zeta Gundam the series (not the movies this time)
frank pivot
ah man i'm STILL sad there wasn't a three houses style timeskip in gwitch
frank pivot
i wanted to see the characters grow up together and then fight on different sides of a big corporate war
quasi copper
and then once you've seen Zeta Gundam you kinda have to decide if you really wanna watch ZZ Gundam but after that is Char's Counterattack, which is fundamental for all mecha media ever
frank pivot
that woulda been heartbreaking
quasi copper
like, Char's Counterattack is so fundamental that there's stuff in AC6 that's more clearly references to other stuff but could also be called CCA references by heritage
ripe crow
Chronologically, it's Gundam Origin, Gundam, Zeta, ZZ, Char's counterattack, Unicorn, right?
quasi copper
oh man chronological UC is a really long list
ripe crow
Main cast UC, anyway.
quasi copper
yeah that's everything if you don't include the spinoff shows but some of the spinoffs are goated
ripe crow
Bright is in all of those, I IRC
ripe crow
Is it a memory of getting slapped in Z?
quasi copper
how could he remember Zeta Gundam in Stardust Memory, that happened in 0080
remembering future slaps that Bask Om has yet to give him
That’s how hard Battlethumb hits you
ripe crow
I dunno, they're all frakking newtypes!
quasi copper
I mean is Bright actually a Newtype
ripe crow
Cross class Newtype, not a main build like Amaro.
quasi copper
Yeah he’s got like
A 3 level dip in Newtypery because he’s been hanging out with so many of them
The only Gundam reference that really didn’t get checked off in AC6 and would’ve added more to the game is if a middle aged Japanese man started crooning a love song in the background after NG++ finale ||Iguazu took over ALLMIND for the final fight||
That would have been, dare I say it, kino as fuck
proven bison
<@&1146476468453511168> anyone up for some casual PvP?
ripe crow
<@&1146476468453511168> anyone up for some casual PvP?
you missed me. I'm done for the night
proven bison
Well that's kinda sad. Good night
ripe crow
sorry
north skiff
I’ll be down in an hour
proven bison
Nice
ripe crow
Is this about the time you're available to PVP tomorrow?
ripe crow
Hmm. I head to bed soon, and I'm still wired from my arena rush.
I might be able to get a game or two in tomorrow.
proven bison
Sounds good
frank pivot
<@&1146476468453511168> anyone up for some casual PvP?
I can do 2-3 games! Gonna go see a movie in a bit
ping me wit dat lobby key
proven bison
ping me wit dat lobby key
Keyword LANCER
serene kettle
The only Gundam reference that really didn’t get checked off in AC6 and would’ve...
😛
proven bison
Gremlin truly is the build of all time
frank pivot
yeah, i love it cuz it's not cheesy but it's really strong if played well
man explosive thrower decimates this build
holy crap
ok last one!
then i gotta dash
frank pivot
ggs!
yeah basho dagger is good
against opponents that go vertical a lot you have to be super on top of your altitude control
sometimes you'll want to turn off huxley for more precise control on stagger timings
also explosive thrower will literally end you if you don't bait it out
lmao
Oh the assault armor trick is a cornerstone of the build. Usually AA is an uno reverse card, but the dagger's cooldown is so fast that if someone tries to AA or pulse armor you, you can just AA on reaction, and by the time the animation is done you get the full dagger combo
proven bison
Yeah I noticed that AA is a death sentence if I'm staggered
frank pivot
Yep, the dagger and the stun baton are the only 2 weapons fast enough to do a full melee combo out of AA if you were interrupted
proven bison
I’ll be down in an hour
Heya, you free?
north skiff
2 secs
proven bison
Alright
north skiff
inna a warm up fight
proven bison
Keyword is LANCER, whenever you're ready
north skiff
bet
ooo the thrower!
family
ouch
gg
wooooooooooooooooooooow
very nice
my life went bye bey
north skiff
yeah that bb gun ripped me to shreads
Ethrower did work
yeah i have a dagger
no shield october
imma switch to mk3 if you scrub me again
yeah that's nasty
very good
SWEATY
proven bison
Nice
north skiff
DEAR GOD
thanks you
so close
you ar emore deadly than i am are close range so i gotta pick my shots
ember carbon
Could I get in on this PVP?
proven bison
Could I get in on this PVP?
Sure
proven bison
That one was fast
proven bison
Thanks
north skiff
i'll let Ento fight
proven bison
Oof, close
ember carbon
Terminal Armour
north skiff
TA for the win
v nice
Ballistic i really like ur paint job too btw- it's simple clean
ooooooooooooo
north skiff
+1
proven bison
Ballistic i really like ur paint job too btw- it's simple clean
Yeah, I just can't stay away from the gray/yellow
ember carbon
Good colours
north skiff
same, honestly
ember carbon
My favourite build is painted similarly with Gray/orange
proven bison
I'm staying back for this one
ember carbon
Ok round 2 I guess
ember carbon
I shall simply kick you
north skiff
yummy
proven bison
Wish I had the energy to kick
north skiff
lol
ember carbon
Forgot I had the rpg for half that fight
ember carbon
I had a plan it was not a very good one
ember carbon
Bigger Gun = Better Gun
ember carbon
The curse of the hanger weapon
Tempted to break out my close range build now that zimmers are more fair
north skiff
yeah they are actually fun now
proven bison
That dagger is SPICY
north skiff
yeahhhhhh, perfect combo with AA
ember carbon
Yeah dagger if you land it hurts so much
north skiff
i'll let yall fight
ember carbon
Time for spin to win
ember carbon
Not my only spin
proven bison
This build is not good against tetras, I think
ember carbon
Yeah Aurora struggles hard at range
ember carbon
Auroras have very jank tracking
proven bison
Still I love the aurora jav beta combo too much to give it up
south oracle
I just had a thought about a tank leg that's just motorcycle with two tiny legs to keep it upright when stationary
north skiff
what's the combo?
ember carbon
Entirely fair
south oracle
Then I realised that's probably too bullshit with how fast the wheelchsir leg is already
proven bison
what's the combo?
The combo is two very hard tracking weapons
ember carbon
Diet Snail
proven bison
Ooh a full stun almost
north skiff
ouch
south oracle
Is Aurora good at stunning?
proven bison
Is Aurora good at stunning?
Average
south oracle
Okay
proven bison
Source: using a wacky aurora build
ember carbon
Not gonna lie I had no idea what was happening for most of that last fight
proven bison
Ah, I see
ember carbon
Oh god the battle of the hand cannons
proven bison
Surprisingly close for an optimized pistol build and a Raleigh cosplay
ember carbon
That was incredibly close those vientos hurt
this isn’t as optimized as it looks due to reload of the pistols and cool down of the orbits I have long periods of time where I can’t fire any guns
Time to try out my PvE boss buster build now that zimmers aren’t busted
ember carbon
Same have a good night
north skiff
ggs yall! sorry i had to dip early
modern hornet
Whew, ||Retake Control of Xylem done on the first try, with both crates obtained!||
||Any tips for Coral Release?||
iron quarry
For that mission I found a high mid range FCS with good same range weapons worked pretty well
serene kettle
||Don't waste ammo on the adds, try to focus the boss.||
iron quarry
Either that or a pile bunker
Because pile bunker vs the world
Basho arms + big bunk = bigger damage
iron quarry
This rusty design is wearing a mini skirt and leggings
Also why is rusty so gat damn thick
summer trellis
I have decided that Raven had reddish eyes from coral augmentation and you’ll never be able to change my mind
BECAUSE I WRITE AC6 FANFICS
ashen monolith
ashen monolith
i waited until auroras were good to make this joke but it's out of the box now. introducing Pog Champion
river junco
Terrible
south oracle
godammit
swift nacelle
frank pivot
i waited until auroras were good to make this joke but it's out of the box now. ...
I love it
proven bison
Cursed Pogmech
ripe crow
i waited until auroras were good to make this joke but it's out of the box now. ...
Now do a Pac Man paint job. :p
hollow ridge
give me elcano rjs
proven bison
And RaD tetras
ashen monolith
and ALLMIND tetra
wooden nimbus
My memory is failing me, did they buff the huxley in the last patch
proven bison
Idk actually
wooden nimbus
They seem to be turning me into a ball of stagger very quickly
ashen monolith
doesnt seem so
huxleys were always like that, but they haven't been in the forefront until now
wooden nimbus
😔 I didn't think I'd grow to resent stagger as much as I do these days
ripe crow
welp, took my lightweight moonligh build into Nest, got absolutely destroyed by a missile mech.
proven bison
I just want to be the BAWS tetrapod™
quasi copper
Tachikoma my beloved
distant forge
cred to blastwaves on DA btw
something that can morph between some sort of walker and a wheeled vehicle would be dope
wooden nimbus
wheels tho
quasi copper
wheels are so unmecha
ember carbon
Hexapod legs please I want even more legs
round schooner
I want one leg
frank pivot
has anyone else tried a dual earshot light
i assume this is what smoking crack feels like
quite addicting even though you know it's unhealthy
distant forge
yes
actually a very similar build
this guy i was fighting did everything right and still lost
another highlight: i got this really weird pilebunker uppercut
frank pivot
another highlight: i got this really weird pilebunker uppercut
Hahaha nice
distant forge
the pilebunker hitbox still defies explanation
frank pivot
100% of the time
frank pivot
this guy i was fighting did everything right and still lost
I think i would have tried to bully your AA during its activation animation and then raced the earshot timer
Though I also wouldn't have gone for a 200m raw charged pulse blade melee in neutral 😂
distant forge
im using terminal armor
which synergizes weirdly well with earshots and other long reload time high alpha weapons
cuz thats 5 more seconds of reload time for your giant fuck you button
wooden nimbus
Joining the earshot gang
fallen harness
i've been earshot gang since I finalized my loadout
incredibly fun to land manually aimed shots to splash people, or airburst at round start
wooden nimbus
r
distant forge
r
fallen harness
r
ashen monolith
r!
proven bison
...r.
ripe crow
NG+ complete. Liberator of Rubicon.
Had to build a specialized energy defense mech to get past Final Snail, but returned to baseline to handle the walker.
cursive agate
the pilebunker hitbox still defies explanation
I think the spike on charged swings gives it a surprisingly tall vertical hitbox, at the cost of horizontal distance.
wooden nimbus
We've painted the Curtshot Edition
distant forge
tony ur so dope at painting
killing you with my teeth rn
this still my favorite paint job but it took me so long
u just consistently put out bangers
could be cuz im too much of a pussy to make my ACs anything but absolutely p r i s t i n e
proven bison
could be cuz im too much of a pussy to make my ACs anything but absolutely p r i...
The only thing cooler than an AC that looks right out of the box, is an AC stained with rust and blood after going on a rampage
3rd coolest are the absolute dumpster truck rust monster ACs
distant forge
tried a big boom boom AC, dual dizzy dual morley on a reverse joint for jumpage
my verdict? fuck this
not for me at the very least
but i did take some very cheeky Ws
ended on a high note with some lightweight vs lightweight action
the round before this one we traded but it still counted as me losing
the morleys are really fun, wish they were a little lighter
fallen harness
damn you're zippy
i get like, 2-3 boosts before I'm almost out of energy
eager vector
I’m workin on a charcoal mech
unique epoch
my only schemes are fucked up schemes
I imagine paint has a limited life expectancy on an AC, especially when my dumb ass is piloting
fallen harness
oh hey, your frame is somewhat similar to mine
unique epoch
Spoilering this one for endings
unique epoch
nyooooom
frank pivot
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009447497636257834/1149165653236924477...
that looks fantastic
distant forge
u can see the tester ac flying backwards
frank pivot
have i fought you in the wild
distant forge
maybe in one of the pnet lobbies but not in random battles
gotta say, my favorite weapon all around
has to be the duckett
its light, high damage and impact, and not dinky looking like the other pistols
eager vector
distant forge
ur gradients always fuck severely
eager vector
went to a bonfire last night and got inspired
south oracle
The black and brown weathering can look nice on some frame
The white weathering is jist weird though
eager vector
might swap the iridium for a harris
pressure AND stagger punish in one sexy package
distant forge
single harris is awesome, its super versatile
eager vector
340 boost speed with 11.4k AP and 1872 AS is very fun to me given that it’s also visually cohesive
fallen harness
Your silhouette reminded me of my mech, and I don't think ever posted a regular pic of Thursday, at least not in this forum.
And I'm quite proud of this mech, have a lot of fun with it in pvp
iron quarry
I wanna see VCPL, Takigawa Harmonics, and Melinite produce mech parts and stuff
See their take on it
Like an Orion drive thruster from Melinite
Boost distance/speed is dependent on max EN amount
south oracle
Probably DLC thing
iron quarry
I’m sad I don’t have it now but am looking forward to AC6 DLC
south oracle
Come on Takigawa, gives us the fucken pulse rifle for proper Nineball cosplay
south oracle
There sure is niche for 'long ranged anti-shield rifle'
God, give us a handheld double barrel grenade rifle
iron quarry
Or the ability to place shields and blades on both sides
If you use both shields a once you get like a special overshield
Or special melee animations for duel blades
For answer my beloved
iron quarry
God, give us a handheld double barrel grenade rifle
The boomstick
Or a pulse orbital from taki harmonics
south oracle
I wish rockets are in the game in some forms
As a sort of weak small blast radius but instant firing alternative to bazook and grenade launcher
Low damage, but actually economical to fire it at MT or AC rapidly
cursive agate
Bazookas are near instant in AC6, and idk if small blast unguided would have much utility
river junco
ended on a high note with some lightweight vs lightweight action
When a motherfucker rocks up with empty shoulders I get scared
proven bison
You know what? We need bolters in this game
Or just more cool looking kinetic weapons in general. The stun needle and ransetsus are probably the coolest looking weapons in the game, and I want more
lucid saddle
Final form for run 3
south oracle
built my 150 EN spec AC for double pulse cannons, and good god this thing shreds.
yeah it has the problem of auto shoulder weapons being a bit difficult to use on keyboard, but considering how quickly the pulse cannon overheats, this can works into your advantage by rush it, fire everything, and hop out so the cannon can cool down while enemy AC had a massive chunk of their health just gone.
like, at base, each pulse cannon already deal as much damage as 2 SMG
the EN firearm spec plus tuning basically triples it
proven bison
Need to see if I can fit quad pulse on VE-20B
south oracle
I think you can fit but it's gonna be a very hard fit
proven bison
Maybe with the pulse pistols instead of the bigger pulse guns
eager vector
Final form for run 3
This fucks
modern hornet
Need to see if I can fit quad pulse on VE-20B
modern hornet
Took a few tries, but I beat ||ALLMIND and got that final dunk on Iguazu||
Tore them down with a Stun Needle Flame Tank
wooden nimbus
Now you must ||become iguana and defeat nest people||
🤔 actually there's a plan for after work
rotund moon
Hey folks, the forum experiment period is almost done so were looking for more feedback on how folks feel, tell us in #1159879685648416849
modern hornet
Contemplating doing a challenge run where I use only RaD frame parts.
Maybe also the Starter AC's general loadout style. Gun in the right hand, melee in the left, some sort of missile in the right shoulder, and that's it. Maybe a shield in the left shoulder if I want a bit more durability.
proven bison
Maybe also the Starter AC's general loadout style. Gun in the right hand, melee...
The official guide actually has a version of the Loader 4 AC that has a 6 cell missle and SUQ shield
So, Loader 4 with shield is canon
modern hornet
👍
I like my ACs to be at least decently survivable, so knowing that shield is A-OK for a Starter setup only challenge run is good news
Commencing challenge run
frank pivot
As a sort of weak small blast radius but instant firing alternative to bazook an...
ooh they made one of the dafeng nade launchers reload in 3.4 seconds
it's nutty
i don't remember the name but it's crazy fun on a quad haha
frank pivot
Maybe also the Starter AC's general loadout style. Gun in the right hand, melee...
full commit! Do loader 4 only!
midnight pine
LOADER 4 run is honestly not that bad barring a few problem missions
you have the pulse blade
the issue is tiat you also have the joso
frank pivot
LOADER 4 run is honestly not that bad barring a few problem missions
some of the bosses are brutal, you'll see XD
ng++ final boss took me 29 hours
ember carbon
Joso at least got a few buffs in the latest patch
midnight pine
some of the bosses are brutal, you'll see XD
i already did it lol
tho i did the liberator ending
modern hornet
Joso at least got a few buffs in the latest patch
Just means it's a polished turd. It's still worse than literally every other generator in the game except for its weight.
midnight pine
yeah lol
ember carbon
Just means it's a polished turd. It's still worse than literally every other ge...
Oh yeah still terrible just a bit less terrible now
midnight pine
loader 4 run would be significantly easier if you had a different generator
proven bison
Upgraded loader 4 run
modern hornet
Upgraded loader 4 run
Pretty much what I'm planning with my challenge run.
ember carbon
Keep body parts change internals and weapons?
midnight pine
other than the head the base frame is... pretty serviceable
it's good for EN tetris with shitty load capacity generators like the ve-20b
frank pivot
i already did it lol
yooo nice, wait how long did arq balt take you?
midnight pine
yooo nice, wait how long did arq balt take you?
a few hours
proven bison
Eventually change to wrecker legs and snail arms, add a shield, and up the missile count. Also replace turner with a scudder or a ran
ashen monolith
i did a head bringer run once, got stuck on the final boss because i did not have the firepower to push through that
midnight pine
not super long but
frank pivot
yeah it was 8-9 for me on arq balt
i had such a hard time lmao
nothing else on that run took me more than like, 4 attempts?
midnight pine
the only mission i actually Gave Up on was escort the weaponized mining ship
modern hornet
More or less. The only body parts I'm allowing myself to change are the head and legs, and only to those either made by RaD or keep Loader 4's overall sihouette.
midnight pine
i died on the last c weapon and got really salty and quit
ashen monolith
one day i'll complete that and check off the full list of ||humiliating iguazu by beating him as his old AC||
proven bison
Chonky loader 4
frank pivot
i died on the last c weapon and got really salty and quit
that happened to me twice in a row it was literal cancer lol
midnight pine
hello Big Loader 4
midnight pine
the things that kept killing me on arq balt were
ashen monolith
actually, both missions at the dam were quite the adventure
frank pivot
the things that kept killing me on arq balt were
the PLASMA god damn
midnight pine
the blue lasers (which i learned how to dodge)
and the plasma lasers
which i still don't know how to dodge
frank pivot
which ones?
midnight pine
phase 2
midnight pine
you can stop him from using that attack by smooching him on the cheek and asking him really nicely not to use the attack
(i'm dead serious, he won't use it if he starts phase 2 and you're right next to him)
my winning run was me getting lucky and him not using the plasma laser attacks very much in phase 2
frank pivot
did you use OS tuning like me
midnight pine
yeah lol
midnight pine
the run would be fucking miserable without assault armor and boost kicks
midnight pine
i cant live without boost kick
frank pivot
did you use a strat for Defend the Dam Complex or did you just rushdown the first two?
midnight pine
okay so
chartreuses ai is dumb as rocks
even though she has the flying tankleg made specifically for flying
she cannot scale walls
frank pivot
yeah chart you can smash quickly
midnight pine
my strategy was to kill king, AB over to raven spawn, kill raven, and then go back and finish of chart
midnight pine
if you fight raven at their spawn point chartreuse literally wont be able to get up to you
frank pivot
hahahaha
king struggles a bit too
wait so did you like demolish allmind
that fight was SO HARD for me to learn
midnight pine
i only did liberator ending
frank pivot
wait, then how did you get Defend the Dam Complex?
midnight pine
liberator ending
frank pivot
oh you played on a completed file gotcha
midnight pine
yeah
modern hornet
Yep, Escort the Weaponized Mining Ship is Ch1, and unless you build for MMM or Go-Karting with Bowser it is a right pain because Oops, all late game C-Weapons
stuck surge
escort the mining ship's in ch1 right
Doesn't show up until NG++, though
stuck surge
Yep, Escort the Weaponized Mining Ship is Ch1, and unless you build for MMM or G...
It's way easier if you stay in the air as much as possible. Once I got it down I started farming it for COAM to buy out the store.
midnight pine
i beat it w a missile boat quad
modern hornet
Same
midnight pine
kind of a lame strategy but i hate that mission so its warranted
ashen monolith
first time through i beat it with 4x missile launchers on a full basho set
to maximize explosive defense
stuck surge
Though my preferred build by that time was missile boat AND high speed, so
frank pivot
nooooooo fuck
ashen monolith
second time just yesterday i did it with the explosive thrower
frank pivot
i think i have to re record that mission
ashen monolith
oh no.
ashen monolith
oh yay
modern hornet
Important first decision for my upgraded Loader 4 run: do I stick with FINDER EYE until NG+ when I can get the SHADE EYE, or do I equip the MELANDER C3 head?
proven bison
Honestly like the normal melander head more. It's basic, blocky, and effective
frank pivot
i died on the last c weapon and got really salty and quit
rendering the succesful run, maybe it will inspire you to go back and finish it
imma post it on youtube then dip for work
just uploaded in glorious 360p, should process in like 10min to higher quality, but you can at least see the strat
river junco
Mmm thinkin I’m gonna
Write some fanfic set after LoR
About ayre and Raven being extremely gay and sharing a body
modern hornet
i just dont like playing it lol
Agreed. Cheese it with the right build, and then forget about it.
midnight pine
they really did not need to give the bone wheels Perfect Tracking Missiles
wooden nimbus
They should give me those missiles
midnight pine
true
wooden nimbus
Gleipnir has been suffering since they nerfed the fire rate on the aperitif, I think I'll switch to one of the other hand missiles
frank pivot
Yay the less people using apertif the better
The 4-cell hand launcher i think is the good one now
modern hornet
My last normal run through the game, I cheesed Escort the Strider with double standard hand missiles and double SOUP platforms.
wooden nimbus
I just liked the delayed launch 😔
midnight pine
i usually get more mileage out of mixing 1 aperitif and 1 of the normal hand missiles
the asynchronous fire rate throws people off
and you still get (some) of the much better damage output of the base hand missiles
river junco
Yay the less people using apertif the better
Awww come on it’s a funni weapon
wooden nimbus
I suppose I could put my redshift blade in hand and have two shoulder racks with differences to keep people on their toes
midnight pine
imo MIX N' MATCH! is the best strategy for mounting missiles since it makes it harder for people to find a rhythm to dodge them
wooden nimbus
Like maybe mix the 6cell and the plasma verts or something
river junco
10 cells with a burst of 3 cells in the middle :p
river junco
10 cells and then when you finish dodging I shoot you with my trueno
wooden nimbus
Might trade the direct 6cell for that one that does the V thing
midnight pine
the dual missiles now actually do what they say on the tin
w/ the increased launch velocity
frank pivot
Awww come on it’s a funni weapon
Honestly after the nerf they're fine
But launch day apertifs gave me ptsd
river junco
Fair
midnight pine
launch day aperitifs
wooden nimbus
I don't even need missiles to hurt much they're just meant to keep people dodging
midnight pine
:bindle:
frank pivot
Wait okay everyone says aperitif
midnight pine
I don't even need missiles to hurt much they're just meant to keep people dodgin...
i recommend the active tracking missiles
theyre really oppressive after the buff
frank pivot
Have i been spelling it wrong my entire life
midnight pine
yeah
frank pivot
Really???
midnight pine
yeah
wooden nimbus
Yeah
midnight pine
quasi copper
can you still use the apertifs for their true purpose, i.e. setting up a death cloud to follow you into melee?
wooden nimbus
It's okay to switch weapons my mech wouldn't evolve if I didn't
midnight pine
they still fulfill their intended purpose
frank pivot
You can sort of, but they no longer have cancer tier tracking
midnight pine
yeah
wooden nimbus
I don't mind the tracking nerf tbh it's just the fire rate that makes me sad
frank pivot
If you want to make melee unfun to attempt against your mech, the active homing missiles are n u t t y
midnight pine
the active homing missiles are very good for shutting down people who have to stop when they fire their weapons
frank pivot
Someone tries to melee you while you have the 2-cell active homings on the field? Good luck lol
midnight pine
also very good for comboing staggers
frank pivot
I think this is the kind of speed you need
If you want to use stop-and-fire weapons against active homing
frank pivot
And forget about melee unless you have super good awareness of missile timing