Terk Mech & Tech

[harsh rampart]

Hell ye

[still socket]

All the mech images in comp con are gone btw

Every single one

From this supplement

[covert surge]

have you uh update the lcp?

that happened a while ago when we change file hosting

showing up just fine for me

[spring creek]

yeah they're fine for me

[still socket]

I think I have but I should try again

Idk what the latest version is tho

[covert surge]

just go to the itch page again and redownload

[raven socket]

0.17.0.0

The images were fixed in 0.15.3.0

[still socket]

oh thanks i guess

[vivid lynx]

Out of everything you've made the le Guin is the thing I'm most hyped for because of the overkill loll

[spring creek]

Five minutes into combat the rat king player said "oh god why did I play this mech"

[summer swallow]

rat

[vale horizon]

they must simply commit harder to the bit

[spring creek]

His combat music is bass boosted megalovania

[rigid chasm]

god that prone icon is cursed

[spring creek]

we call it "you get back pain"

[cosmic steppe]

The dm's trap card

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187997278540144670/1237254671014432768/Capture.png?ex=663afab4&is=6639a934&hm=73c427750ac3b0fa1e558ab38a564a8707d52046534adb0cc24dfec8c4e9fed9&

[summer swallow]

true

[cosmic steppe]

reinforcements: 8 grunt berserkers

[cosmic steppe]

Painted Lady is a hell of a drug man

[covert surge]

If you feel like Yondu then I have done my job

Also Rat King is a double edge sword, it cause pain to player and Gm and designer

[cosmic steppe]

Everyone suffers

[spring creek]

Honestly I felt it was pretty balanced today

[cosmic steppe]

Combat was awesome. Painted lady ran like 19 spaces in 1 round to capture a point, Frundsburg cleaved some goliaths in half and defended 1 entire flank of a defence by itself, and the Rat King got really bullied but outplayed everyone around it. Got mobbed by 3 witches and it killed all of them before it took 12 heat on their turns

[spring creek]

Push of pike is one of the strongest defensive abilities in the game, straight up

[covert surge]

As in too stronk or just top class

Because I can make Indomitable turn it 1/turn instead of unlimited

Which would only really affect core :P

[spring creek]

Nah it’s fine

The immobilize makes it fair

[cosmic steppe]

Yeah. We didn't even have Frundsburg become immobalized at all during the combat

[spring creek]

It did make it absolutely absurd when I had 4 grunt berserkers readying up to charge

[cosmic steppe]

funny eject power core

[spring creek]

No but I meant that if they charged one by one they would just die

[covert surge]

Historically accurate cavalry charge against pike wall

[spring creek]

Yeah it’s rad

The painted lady is actually amazing and feels like the most Ssc mech I’ve ever seen

Moves very fucking rapidly, attacks fifty times a turn with one quick action, and explodes if a witch so much as looks at it wrong

Almost poster child for an ssc mech that isn’t on four legs

[covert surge]

Elegante

[mild prairie]

Will we ever get so see your crab mech as a liscense?

[covert surge]

Crab is gorshkov, the core gimmick i thought up for crab was used to make gorshkov

[mild prairie]

Ah, makes sense, given the art

[shell quest]

Playing Rat King is like being on a swing of perpetually switching between "I am a genius, my wit is unmatched" and "Random bullshit go."

That and slapping any form of AOE on Sputnik drones and pulling off stuff like: "I am now going to make 3 attack rolls, four times." Is absolutely hilarious.

[covert surge]

Ork shooting phase

[queen jasper]

Hhahaahah

[mild prairie]

Peak Skaven behavior (friendly fire is mandatory)

[indigo gulch]

God this sounds like my Bligh player. He is either performing 4D chess with swabber positioning for Overshield chaining, or he's yeeting four swabbers into melee to deal a max of 12 AP Energy damage

[covert surge]

Sometime the strongest course of action is to just jump someone

[indigo gulch]

Deadass he is a threat to my sanity, up there with my spec ops Goblin player and the TCB Manticore

It is so hard to deal with a manticore when so many enemies in the module I'm using have Energy and Burn...

[ornate verge]

I'll trade you threats to your sanity for the bloody damn heroes I have. I had a flight type nelson with frundsberg gear disable the safeties on his perpetual momentum drive kamikaze directly into the bridge of a capital ship at a significant portion of the speed of light.

[covert surge]

Witness Me

[ornate verge]

Less witness me and more "I'M READY HOW ABOUT YOU!". swear to God.

[shell quest]

6 sharangha missile Sputniks have you heard of our lord and saviour High Saturation Bombardment?

Sharanghas still strike me as one of the best weapons to put on sputnik drones.

Multi targetting, which gets progressively more useful the more of them you have, 3 base damage that gets reduced to 2 making the damage loss minimal, high range and Arcing...

That or oracles

Different funny thing I have been considering giving to the Sputninks is the White Witch Ferrofluid lance.

"Go ahead, un-immobilize yourself"

Speaking of putting things on Sputniks.

What would happen if I put an autopod on a sputnik.

[covert surge]

no

[shell quest]

I assume it would either consume my reaction to attack once, or be useless.

[covert surge]

the only way you can fire is with the dedicated qa

so you cant fire the autpod

[shell quest]

Ah.

Aw

scribbles off the vorpal gun

The drones cannot use weapon specific Quick actions, and do not benefit from weapon talents either yes?

Would the fusion lance use its overcharged profile if I were to fire the sputnik drones as an overcharge action?

[covert surge]

no

[shell quest]

Weird... sounds RAW

Ok that is all questions I had.

:p

[indigo gulch]

Based and stage dive pilled

[indigo grail]

I wonder, how is the IPS-N Lord doing balance wise?

[indigo grail]

Oh god

I just thought up of a horrifying combo for a Tokugawa build using the mass driver

the LLs taken would be 2 Tokugawa, 1 Zhukov, 1 Vlad, 2 Raleigh, which would put the minimum of this build at LL6

core bonuses would be OP cal and Gyges frame, and the Frame itself is a Tokugawa obviously

Mount a Impact lance on the Toku with the Mass driver mod, then add on OP cal as well. then add External batteries, Roland chamber, and Lucifer NHP as well if possible

talents would be Duelist, Nuclear cavalier, maybe the black thumb/technophile combo, and Grease monkey for a better stabilize

Now for the Results....

Threat on the Lance is 3+1(mass-driver)+1(gyges frame)+1(external batteries)+1(limit break)= 7 Threat in total on the Impact lance

Damage on the lance is 1d6 EN + 1d6+3 burn(OPcal) + 1d6 burn(roland chamber) + 1d6 burn(Nuc Cav) + 3 burn(Mass Driver)= 1d6EN + 3d6+6 bonus burn

dear god

and threat also overwatches as well.....

this is at LL6

and it can attack all enemies within a line

What have I done....

[covert surge]

Loading kills the overwatch stuff

But this is like average Toku gameplay :P

[indigo grail]

how does it kill the Overwatch stuff? Loading only applies if you already used the weapon this round

say someone moves within threat 7, and I haven't already attacked with the Lance this round

I can then Overwatch them, and attack anyone else within the line between me and the person being overwatched

this can also be done to multiple targets.....

[covert surge]

Means you cant double/triple up on attacks like you would normally with a regular weapon where you can oc skirmish skirmish and overwatch if they move

[novel wolf]

IG you can instead overwatch then spend turn stabilising to reload

Then just... never skirmish on your turn?

[indigo grail]

yeah, and instead just keep moving around into cover or to allies when possible

[covert surge]

Toku wanna just get as many individual attack as it can in instead of big attack

[novel wolf]

Depends how u build it IG cos like, nuc cav + opcal are 1/round. But yeah, lots of attacks is also great cos of that +3 Bonus damage

[shell quest]

Wait isn't there a Dullahan weapon that is called Mass driver?

Or am I trippin

[covert surge]

i am running out of names

[wide hatch]

time for the harrison armory Big Guy and the IPS-N Dude

[queen jasper]

dont forget the fan favourite, HORUS Weirdo

and the beloved SCC Twink

[small bramble]

Hey terk any tips on drawing mechs???

[covert surge]

Stack shape ontop of each other and then go in with greeble

Dont greeble the whole thing, leave a good amount of space where it isnt so theres clean zone and greeble zone so the entire mech dont melt together

Mechs are not human in a suit, you can break proportion and place limbs at weird places

Bang them up a little, unless its ssc, it sell the idea thats its a warmachine

[lofty nexus]

Look, Polish is right over there

[covert surge]

for weapons not frame lol

[lofty nexus]

My statement still stands

[shell quest]

I just had a mental flashbang of a frame called "Piłsudzki"

[lofty nexus]

Ah, yes. The name that some Poles can't pronounce

[mild prairie]

When naming towns for my dnd campaign I take the most prominent feature of the city (such as ice or sand) and just translate it into scottish or irish

[shell quest]

Just do british and name all rivers "river" or "I don't understand" in local languages.

Too bad mechs are always called mech.

But you could probably just use that for weapons.

[cerulean smelt]

How tf do you even pronounce that

[pliant kestrel]

Piłsudzki

obviously

:)

[hushed field]

The ł is pronounced like English "w", and "dz" is like what we might see at the ends of "roads". I hope that helps.

[open ginkgo]

With Difficulty

[cerulean smelt]

Piwudski

Basically

[pale lance]

Terk

Wait nvm it doesn't work

I was about to slap a MK3 Beam Diffuser to the Ontological Instigator but then forgot it didn't do energy damage...

Wait

Okay it technically does

How legal is this?

[covert surge]

It is not legal

[ornate verge]

Hey got an Atlas player who wants to pair it with some terk mechs and BDF parts. I'm helping him with that part of his build but do you guys have any recommendations?

For reference he's an Ex-BDF pilot turned merc with a big monster hunter vibe

[mild prairie]

What's BDF?

[winter temple]

Baronic Defense Forces

[ornate verge]

Yeah he's doing the Akrefena/Kampalan, Atlas, and a Terk mech. I've used BDF before so I can help him out with that.

Just need thoughts on potential Terk mech to pair with those.

[winter temple]

question: if I use the Subutai's Omen trait with an Oracle LMG, will the auto-hits tick up the Gunslinger die?

[covert surge]

yep, still technically an attack/hit

[winter temple]

YES

[ornate verge]

Oh that is WICKED

[covert surge]

it is very delayed so hey you can have your cake if you do manage to get enemy to stand in the red circle

[shell quest]

OOOH I finally realised External loaded from Dullahan gives heat to the mech that is being reloaded

I was under the false belief that it was the loading character getting cooked and I was confused because that would mean a pilot cannot load their own mech without hitting themselves with energy damage.

I may have stupid.

tho any pilot with armour would nullify that energy which is funny

[cedar tapir]

Imagine if with the dullahan the pilot’s head Sticked out from a little hole so when you exited it the dullahan would seem to have a missing head

[covert surge]

the brain of the mech is the pilot so when you get out its what cause the headless imagery lol

[cedar tapir]

Hah

[covert surge]

Hey gang, wanna see what I've been working on for after Mech n Tech? (all the mechanics and mechs are at the bottom)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aSLE1KO13fjxh0D56kPUtjovYue2rLwvWOT5mScVeNk/edit?usp=sharing

[indigo gulch]

ooooo

[covert surge]

Rokeya is especially funny because, while mechanically it doesnt quite play like that, fluff wise it just “oh so you Horus/Aun motherfuckers wanna breakthrough real space and walk around in the firmament while being intangible? Watch this! Intangible Mines!”

Ill probably set up a separate thread once im a bit deeper into it and have set up a logo/cover art

and also the Lem has a domain expansion

[late comet]

Technological Marvel looks absolutely fucked. I love it

I'd say the same for the Le Guin's Kinetic-Thermal Engine, but with a lot more intensity

Big numbers go brrrrr

[late comet]

[covert surge]

If you cant tell im very controller brain and sprinkle knockbacks into my homebrew very liberally

[late comet]

Understandable
Knockback is good and very funny

[mild prairie]

Brick with Boosters moment

[vale horizon]

i really the blunt fuck-you simplicity of the heinlein lol

[covert surge]

You have no idea the amount of self control i exerted to not sneak a direct starship trooper reference in there

[cosmic steppe]

Wait is that a casual 7 new terk mechs

holy shit

[hardy citrus]

Oh hoh hoh hoh

@glass saffron

[wraith birch]

I just want you to know that my literature student ass appreciate you using writers as a naming scheme so much right now.

Also for some reason my brain saw "Shelley" and went "what, Percy Shelley isn't a scifi author, he's a poet!" before I realized you are probably thinking about the wife, not the husband.

[covert surge]

yes, Mary Shelley of Frankenstein

[wraith birch]

Yeah, took me an embarassingly long time to make that connection.

[novel wolf]

2 things about the core bonus, grammatical mistake in gravity sling " you may give a Save your force +1 Difficulty"

Second, is the flavour of the AI core bonus essentially saying "your AI systems aren't NHPs, they're literal AIs now"

Cos if so I think that's a kind of dope reflavour of existing dope lore

[covert surge]

yep

it also conflicts against Iconoclast but hey lore and flavor apropriate

what do you mean you want to use a shackled interdimensional being to run your mech when we already have perfectly good normal ass computers right here?

since beside like one or two NHP, the NHP system effects and functioning are like not paracausal at all and use the NHP in place of thing that think very very fast

Saladin just operate a shield system, Sehkmet just drive your mech in an angry way, Tlaloc just aim your gun, Agni just operate your reactor very well

[novel wolf]

Apparently giving chatgpt a tesla coil isn't as effective as giving it to an unstable NHP

[covert surge]

only Osiris is does wacky paracausal stuff as well as maybe Scylla

the lightning is powered by pure emotional breakdowns

[novel wolf]

I could see Osiris ai as just a super complex hacking suite

I could see Scylla as taking control of mech systems in small bursts far faster than the human mind can react in split second reactions/opportunities

[covert surge]

since whatever scylla prime did before contaiment it needed bombardment to knock it out

[novel wolf]

Man... if only I could summon lightning when I had a mental breakdown 😩

[novel wolf]

I mean... if an Nhp system becomes AI I'm imagining it's being totally reflavoured from the ground up

[covert surge]

I might add into the lore that VOS has a nascent bicameral mind in deep site, arriving at the same conclusion as union but completely oblivious about the existence of the Five Voices so its convergent design, and they still think they are the first to arrive at this technology :P

[novel wolf]

Lmao

And the 5 voices are very aware of this

[covert surge]

and UIB are stuck with keeping a very close eye on them because if they actively try to stop it then the fact that they are this active and dirrect would show their hands and hint at the existence of the Five Voices, which for Union is like super duper top secret

[novel wolf]

"What do you mean we got a cease and desist for copying unions patented design? No one knows about this but us!!!"

[novel wolf]

But surely if it's complete it will also hint at the existence of the 5 voices

Random idea, the solution is that the UIB has infiltrated agents into the VOS 5 voices equivalent with experts on how the 5 work being planted so they can assist development and try make it good but imperfect so that some things are wrong such as it ever finding out about the UIB or the 5

[covert surge]

Its also like a far future problem because they barely got half of one up and running so its not an immediate oh shit problem yet so right now its a wait and see approach

[worthy steeple]

u jusr gave me an idea for an NHP that actually uses ir paracasual stuff

[covert surge]

While the existence of the Five Voices is unknown to VOS, the underlying principle of a bicameral mind is not an impossible idea and as such, VOS has also reached the same conclusion about the potential of a bicameral mind independent of Union, an example of convergent design. As of this point, VOS has a nascent bicameral mind that it is developing as a matter of top secrecy, believing themself to be the first to develop such a world-changing technology. For their part, the Five Voices was able to obtain knowledge of the existence of a nascent bicameral mind though not all the details, and the UIB is keeping an extremely close eye on VOS and attempting infiltration into their ranks. While light interference and misdirection are on the table, the UIB cannot directly oppose or sabotage VOS’s effort to build a bicameral mind, because the very act of opposing the building of a bicameral mind is proof that Union has, or is at least already aware of, bicameral mind technology. It is a line of questioning that might inevitably lead to the existence of the Five Voices being revealed, which is something the UIB avoids at all cost and takes no risk pertaining to it.

Everyone is drawn to the le guin lol its like 75% of the fback i got is “le guin is insane, i want one”

The power of the word “knockback 20”

[winter temple]

Nevermind I forgot it was melee only for the "heat taken converted to bonus damage"

[covert surge]

Do not the displacer

Bonus damage is also heat

I need to clarify that in the wordings incase someone misunderstand

But fear not i got another heat 10 melee in the Shelley liscene lol

[winter temple]

Lovely

[covert surge]

Demon Core

[worthy steeple]

the fuk

[spring creek]

Is it intended that your mech gains the AI tag on the core bonus, which then would usually prevent you from taking another gear with the AI tag?

[rigid chasm]

I’d assume so

Mind you, it’s still possible to get another AI tag with the HORUS core bonus

[shell quest]

Actually Mech AI tag is unrelated to Equipment AI tag.

[fresh reef]

Yeah, but Claiomh Solais gives it to the mech

Sadly, it doesn't count for the one other thing that looks at the Equipment AI tag, RAW

Aka, the Iconoclast NHP's Memetic Spark

Since it's not a system

[covert surge]

Ai tag on mech is different to equipment ai tag. You can still mount an ai systems.

The core bonus doesnt give you an ai system. The mech itself just gain the tag

[fresh reef]

For some reason I thought this was Liminal Space, disregard what I said

[vale horizon]

what's the interaction between dagon's Gaze Into The Abyss and goblin's Metahook? do you use its base sensors or does it vary based on the trait?

[inner root]

could we get an updated lcp drop in the discord? I think itch.io is down in certain places in the US

[covert surge]

Base sensor

Since gaze doesnt extend your sensor, you just treat ppl as if they are within

[vale horizon]

gotcha, ty!

[covert surge]

working on talents for VOS so in the meantime have this aboslute shitpost talent I dug out from the vault

[shell quest]

Combat Glomping

[covert surge]

“only if the writer fuck it up” is my favorite line i wrote for this :P

[sterile light]

LMFAO

what do rank 2 and 3 look like

[covert surge]

it was some pretty generic defender effects that I added to fill out the ranks, only rank 1 was unique/funny

[sterile light]

😔

[covert surge]

speaking of which, talents

[sterile light]

<OMINOUS HUMMMM>

/reference

[novel wolf]

Oooh this is really cool

[mild prairie]

Someone in here recently asked what the current situation on the Lord is (if it's considered finished) but I don't remember if it got answered, is it still Wip or na?

[covert surge]

things are considered in develepoement until they are pushed to lcp

[mild prairie]

I hope the TCK-50 stays (mostly) as it is, cone 7 heavy machine gun is just so funny to me

[covert surge]

yeah im pretty happy with that weapon

[mild prairie]

TCK-50 Heavy Machine Gun+Twin Barrels+Suppression Subroutine go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

“The lawsuit is still pending at the time of recording.” - Spokesperson for IPS-N Weapon Ideation Lab

love it

[tardy zephyr]

Lord, my love...

[covert surge]

found a new thing to name the talent rank after

Argumentum ad baculum (Latin for "argument to the cudgel" or "appeal to the stick") is the fallacy committed when one makes an appeal to force

appeal to the stick

[open ginkgo]

Both of those look nuts

[tawdry jungle]

I saw Terk did the drawings for the Ahab, but I don't remember it being part of mech and tech

where did it end up being released

[covert surge]

Boisegang’s supplement

[tawdry jungle]

has that been released here yet?

[covert surge]

Not to my knowledge

[wraith birch]

Is that the ASV supplement?

I really can't wait for that supplement. I love the art and concept for it.

[covert surge]

No thats another one

Asv is this one #1235029747893932072

I got my hands in a bunch of supp in the work lol

[wraith birch]

Yeah, I noticed.

Very good art for all of them though.

[novel wolf]

One thing I just noticed rereading this talent. I just realised unless you're attacking an elite/ultra. The level 1 and 2 of the talent don't synergise

It works as a "this is just giving you more options" but they don't work together (they're still both really cool and creative abilities)

[covert surge]

Hopefully there are more than one enemy on the field 😉

[novel wolf]

Wait... people run combats with more than one enemy????? 🤯

[covert surge]

They both work to the same goal of delaying enemy turn, rank 1 through intimidation “if you take your turn early before me i get to shoot you with acc” and rank 2 directly “yeah just take your turn dead last”

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/18oBrhZn28L6b94xa7Al0DjjL8xwCqulGQP3TGSpXk70/edit?usp=sharing

For anyone who's looking into homebrew I made an updated version of the bingo that's all common pitfall that new homebrewer often experience with explanation for each squares.

[open ginkgo]

Oh nice TY!

[vale horizon]

forgot daisy cutter exists lol

[covert surge]

“The average lancer homebrew becomes broken in combination with other licenses” factoid actually incorrect. Cutter Georg, who deals 3d6 in a Cone 7, is an outlier adn should not be counted”

[crude ravine]

You may benefit from looking up what baculum means in biology. Not saying it should change ofc, just something good to know

[covert surge]

kek

Big Stick Ideaology has a new meaning

[hardy citrus]

My biggest fucking enemy fr fr

Also something im so glad i avoid

[cedar tapir]

Tbh even though it wouldn’t work a biological frame would be a cool idea

I guess the closest we have is the morning cloak

[covert surge]

yeah just put a trait that says ooo meat mech and have some mechanical benefit, just dont put in the actual biological tag

[harsh rampart]

Yep, that can definitely work. Even just a built in AI tag can sell it quite alot

[cedar tapir]

Well if there was biological tag on a mech you would pray to god that you can get resistance to ⚡️damage

[harsh rampart]

Here's what I got on my biomech

PRIMORDIAL NATURE
The Druid's Tech Actions ignore the immunity granted by the Biological Tag. Additionally, the Druid has the AI tag, which does not count towards the limit on AI systems.

[pale lance]

TORTUGLER STRIKES AGAIN

[harsh rampart]

Don't ask how it hacks bios, it's HORUS

[cedar tapir]

Horus: instead of a computer virus let’s just use real viruses

[harsh rampart]

"None of this pansy shit, we're using the real stuff"

[late comet]

May or may not have changed one of my earlier frames that have not two, not three, but four Heavy Mounts

It couldn't use them all at once because of Core System™ reasons, but still 😬

whoops

[harsh rampart]

4 heavy mounts, Jesus

Mount 4 daisy cutters, max engi, live forever

[late comet]

Changed it to one Heavy, three Mains for sanity reasons

Luckily I think that's the only Classic Blunder I have committed

[pliant kestrel]

ive done this 1000 times

[late comet]

I was convinced that I'd done it, but somehow I don't think I have

[shell quest]

Wiggl

But I like when stuff lets me wiggle. It is funny.

:p

[pliant kestrel]

I feel like everyone falls into this as well

Aux weapons have virtually 0 space for funkiness

[shell quest]

Wrong.

Simply give it 0 damage. :p

[pliant kestrel]

I like aux weapons though

its fun to work around that restriction

[summer swallow]

OC’s dual pistols that have 5 stances each with on-hit and crit effects as well as a token system

[pliant kestrel]

[covert surge]

the 2sp terashima aux

[pliant kestrel]

What I want is a License where at LL3 you get two different aux weapons

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-when-you-uhhh-the-gif-25052421

[covert surge]

fucking system that let you terashima-ise your improvised attack

[sweet marsh]

like that one metal gear rising mod that replaces all swords with raidens bare hands

[pliant kestrel]

Honestly that sounds dope lol

[winter temple]

a funny thing would be an aux that, by itself, does no damage but enhances the other weapon it attacks with in some way

however that breaks the rule of giving auxes too much

[covert surge]

Could work tbh no damage give you a good budget to work with

[pliant kestrel]

Yeah

I can totally see it working

[gray sluice]

I am in many ways a slut for the subutai and am currently on prospector accelerate conqueror's path dream mobility build planning

is there a downside to prairie dogging with the conqueror's path other than annoying my gm with 6x15 intangible hexes?

[covert surge]

What is prairie dogging?

[gray sluice]

popping in and out to shoot; think my gm just counters with small guys in melee, but intangible also means my entire squad can now ignore blast doors, as those are terrain and not characters?

[covert surge]

Yeah bridge works both way so a single berserker can just run like 15 spaces into the middle of your team

[open ginkgo]

Yeah it's a double edged sword- good for getting into an area, not so good if you are trying to run away

[covert surge]

But playtest it out, if it proves too oppressive then ill change to intangible only when moving

[gray sluice]

gm runs a game once every 3 months, but I'll provide feedback when I hit ll5 in november : p

per scene limit might be a happy medium? subutai incentivizes limited systems buffs so I'd be reducing berserker/ultra speed by 7 before bridge deployment

[covert surge]

Its also 1/turn so they can always take a boost action even after you reduce their standard move by 7 to move their speed

Since its not a straight speed reduction, it reduce space only for that particular movement

[delicate lichen]

hey i just noticed, the Zhukov isn't in the compendium doc pinned in here?

[covert surge]

I probably forgor

[open ginkgo]

Thats the newest/reworked one, right?

[covert surge]

Yeh

[delicate lichen]

that thing is cool as shit btw

actually peak

out of curiosity - does the wording on the Zhukov's Quick Detach Omnimount (specifying that it "doesn't suffer" the heat or self damage, rather than simply reducing it to 0) imply that it bypasses self-inflicted damage or heat that can't be reduced?

[covert surge]

Yes

The magic of just dropping the thing thats hurting you on the ground

[hardy citrus]

@covert surge is there any chance you might put together a seperate document for your alts, so they're a little easier to find?

[gray sluice]

a moment of wonder for the gunghis

[cerulean smelt]

Too impatient to wait for a Zhukov LCP so im brute forcing it with pen and paper

This shit is gonna rule

[shell quest]

((Me with Dullahan tbh))

[shell quest]

Comp-con has made us spoiled, soft and weak. We can no longer fend for ourselves, no longer work with out hands/j

[cerulean smelt]

Comp/Con is my side gig, pen and paper is my true calling

[queen jasper]

Given the bingo I really want to make a frame license that fills as much bingo as possible

I can definetly get Right-->Left Diagonal, might write it out for shit posting purposes

[queen jasper]

Lem has to be my favourite, love everything about it

how would Prefab work with Lem's Dark cloud? Does the Cloud give hard cover then?

Le Guin goes too hard also

[covert surge]

Prefab dont work with dark cloud i need to put a clause in

Or just scythe off the drone part from prefab cuz like all core drones are size 1/2 so it almost doesnt do anything

[queen jasper]

(oh yippe)

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I66K95UL02U9jHr16ijVCTrsRgpVMSf0xZ41xEXlKIk/edit?usp=sharing

sunzi that teleports you to hell

[sterile light]

sent to eeby deeby

[rigid chasm]

Banished to the shadow realm

sentenced to play caltrop

[sterile light]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/409638848302153732/1066158134923624470/IMG_0896.gif

[rigid chasm]

I’m upset we don’t have the punishment orb sticker

[open ginkgo]

God I love that Oda Frame

[covert surge]

Exotic Brawler Terashima

[cerulean smelt]

Finally, Terrorshima

[mild prairie]

last sentence of the first paragraph is redundant, isn't it?

[mild prairie]

Yoooo, that's sick

[shell quest]

Dullahan with accelerate feels like it would be really funny to work around.

[shell quest]

Bear stance should have "are considered size 4" instead of is.

[hushed field]

My only question is.. What's the name of that thing?

[covert surge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zouhuorumo

basically esoteric belief that if you train martial art too obsessively and practiced qigong too hard you go nuts

[hushed field]

I never would have found this whilst making my own homebrew. The stuff people know!

[covert surge]

usually used in like old martial art movies and pulp fictions for like "the villain is crazy but also extremely good at martial art, so good he went crazy"

[hushed field]

Ah, it consumed him sort of deal.

[covert surge]

I know about it because I used to watch a bunch of like shitty martial art series imported from China when I was like 7 and knew the translation of it in my language "tẩu hỏa nhập ma" so I knew where to look and search backward

[hushed field]

Yeah.

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GxhX_ryf2ud5c6xHuQeVVcw50ATkotnUAinUVVfSPIA/edit?usp=sharing

big lore now instead of bullet points

[vale horizon]

the satsui no hado...

[pale lance]

What can I put Carbine Mod on?

As in what has good syngergy with it

I feel like none of the rifles do

[mild prairie]

which liscense is that again?

[pale lance]

Dilus

[covert surge]

The gilg’s rifle is gunna be prty good

[mild prairie]

Since it turns it into a CQB, you can use Vanguard on it, so if there are any strong weapons that you just want to shoot more, this could help

[mild prairie]

Railrifle could be fun, Overwatch one character, hit another one too

[indigo grail]

There is also the recent release of shadows of the wolf, wich adds the Tagetes into the mix, and lets you turn ANY ranged weapon to rifle typing

[vivid quest]

Should Tiger stance say 'melee' somewhere? Otherwise the sniper PC in my GM would take that instantly and that doesn't feel like the intention of it.

[mild prairie]

This could become funky, given there's probably a reason it was originally restricted to "true" rifles

[mild prairie]

I just noticed that I had the Tuhachevsky vex style meme on my phone three times, and the Arthur meme twice...this isn't yugioh, I don't need duplicates

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHI33E163fvkQJ2jxTCMzGMs9tgcamrCTt_tvQHd8sA/edit?usp=sharing

Alt Blackbeard that doesn't hook into grapple

its crit and reliable beard instead

[mild prairie]

Having a Core Power that just says "Violence" is very Blackbeard

[covert surge]

I activate Violence

[indigo gulch]

hmmmmmm Superheavy with Reckless Swing equals FUN

[covert surge]

theres still the +2 Diff haunting you next turn :P

[indigo gulch]

simple: DD/288. Have on turns and off turns

[covert surge]

thats mean lol

[shut patrol]

And its Uncharged Profile has Reliable 3 no matter how much difficulty is being stacked. And is still compatible with Executioner

[covert surge]

IPS-N gaming

after BBeard you can go into Zheng for DD or Raleigh for Uncle and Kinham

[pale lance]

The sheer amount of accuracy makes me want to go crit fishing

[covert surge]

Bbeard has two crit effects in liscense so crit fish away

[still socket]

Question about the rat king

does the sputnik drone TAKE a weapon from your mounts

or does it have a less effective duplicate

nvm i found the answer thank god it copies it

[hardy citrus]

Following up on this @covert surge , is there any doc or folder that has links to the alts you've made?

[queen jasper]

So you can grapple a mfer, then teleport to the Hellgate and thet comes with you? awesome

[queen jasper]

Awesome name

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AajKjh-CdgbvY7tZxU-7izjrCD7VLhxpD2bLypCqgnY/edit?usp=sharing

Pegasus alt that autocannibalize its own weapon to produce a uber gun

[novel wolf]

I'm trying to think of best weapon eating combinations...

[covert surge]

obvious smartgun for its giant bag of great traits and its already there in the liscense

Leviathan + Smartgun+ Oracle or DMR (if you take SHmounting) for 15 range smart accurate seeking 4d6+4 after you spun the leviathan up

Bolt Nexus is also really good once you tag somebody once with the normal weapon

[novel wolf]

What happens if you eat the mimic gun?

[covert surge]

what about it?

[novel wolf]

And try to turn it 3rd bullet point

[covert surge]

it still obey the rules as normal, when the mimic gun shift, whatever category it is inherting also shift.

so its damage also shift just as it would when Vorpal/leviathan shift

[novel wolf]

Would it always deal a flat range/2 +1?

[covert surge]

the range of the mimic gun, not the range of the pseudogun

but yes

[novel wolf]

Oooh on that's cool

[covert surge]

the real play here is to eat the Mimic Gun for the first bullet point

because the mimic gun is every ranged weapon types at once

[novel wolf]

So then the pseudo gun gets wacky range but consistent damage?

"Consistent"

As in not range/2+1

[covert surge]

which allows you to just stack absurd talents on the pseudogun, like crackshot centimane stormbringer all at once

[novel wolf]

Also, how would blasts, cones, and other aoe templates go? Are they bullet point 1 or 2?

[covert surge]

they dont go anywhere

they do not count

[novel wolf]

Ah cool cool

Sorry this is really cool so it's just got me asking lots of questions about it cos it's real unique and interesting

[covert surge]

and you can eat or uneat weapon as protocol so if the mimic gun have a low number turn you can just

not eat the mimic gun and return the sheavy to 10 range cannon

[novel wolf]

And weapons with multiple profiles but you can choose any like the siege cannon? Which traits and such would you inherit there?

Just whichever you choose as it isn't a case one is active at a time

[covert surge]

you choose

if you want to sink just your entire SP budget into the super gun

Sharanga + Stabilizer + Exbatt + Siegestab, use second trait to convert your gun to energy for exbatt and extrude a range 30 LHAC

[novel wolf]

Throw in nanocomp as well

Wait nvm clashes with stabiliser...

Wait I'm dumb it gets those benefits from the sharanga in the first place

Oh fuck wait, shatterhead colony missiles would also be so good on that gun for some weapons

[covert surge]

Doesn inherit shatterhead effect since its not specifically a on hit, on attack or on crit effect

[novel wolf]

Ah I thought it was on attack ;-;

Time to throw a gravity gun onto it to provide literally nothing of benefit 😎

[covert surge]

It actually does

No moving but the on attack save thing does damage on its own

Though that depends on whether your dm interpret the on attack as needing a template or being able to target just the person you hit

[ornate verge]

Oh that thing is horrifying and I love it

[crude ravine]

Does the autocannibalism inherit opcal if it inherit's a weapon's damage? I'm inclined to say no for various reasons (CBs are not mentioned in autocannibalism's wording, can't modify integrated weapons normally) but it'd be good to get word of god on it

[covert surge]

It does not

[crude ravine]

cheers

[languid hawk]

Is it just a coincidence or is the Heruka's art a Bloodborne reference

[covert surge]

its a samsara wheel

[languid hawk]

that makes sense lol

[covert surge]

The entire mech is very buddhist coded

And fist of the north star coded

[languid hawk]

i figured it was just a coincidence but the cone-head + the wheel in the art made my mind immediately go to the Executioners from Bloodborne.

[open ginkgo]

I see you woke up today and chose violence

[covert surge]

My most unhinged alt frame design yet

[open ginkgo]

And I freaking love it

[vale horizon]

EAT GUN

[summer swallow]

Tasty

[lofty nexus]

It's a gun eat gun world out there, eh?

[austere fable]

Warp rifle on that Pseudogun could pretty easily hit that 10 space maximum for the teleport which is funny.

[hardy citrus]

How does siege cannon work with this

Not saying its good

Mainly just asking

........

Wait.

[hardy citrus]

I call her....

Aster's Pistol
Superheavy CQB
3 Cone, 3 Threat
Overkill
2d6 AP kinetic damage
Daisy Cutter On Attack

[sweet marsh]

why inherit from vorpal gun? what does that give?

can you not just use the basic stats for 3d6 kinetic?

also i believe it explicitly can't inherit templates like cone?

[hardy citrus]

OHHHH you're right idk how i didn't proc- It's because I never call them templates cuz I think that a dumb word for it. Lmao.

[hardy citrus]

Honestly? Forgot it had a base damage

Nevermind the whole thing

[jaunty dust]

So I am curious, has there ever been considerations for a GMS frame in Terk Mech & Tech?

[covert surge]

I had one a good time ago but eh didnt like it, GMS framework is not too interesting to me

[worthy steeple]

i mean
it would be cool if terk had a GMS arty frame
but that would prob be made by massif eventually

[novel wolf]

The threat 10 Tokugawa

Misses

FUCK
dies

[covert surge]

just as the quartermaster intended

[jaunty dust]

oh god xD

[tacit thicket]

let me put it on my ranged weapons too

[wraith birch]

Oh god, not the Obrez nunchucks.

[raven socket]

Me on that "deployable frame" grind
https://i.imgur.com/EmHZ9OX.png

Let's just say I now understand in intimate detail why the sunzi's passive works how it does

fun fact!

unlimited deployables work perfectly fine
except, inexplicably, when part of the frame itself

Why is this? Why does Tom forsake me so? I have no idea!

anyway, morgan soon-tm-hopefully

(this would be much easier if I wasn't a perfectionist (I want the deployables to show up in foundry/active mode))

[covert surge]

Limited 6 billions

[harsh rampart]

Expend Six Billion Charges

[covert surge]

doing a thing

[fresh reef]

Undeserved ban, you never need 51 spaces of movement.

You need at least 60.

Always

No matter the situation

[crude ravine]

I don't believe I ever posted this here

[full nimbus]

at least now the enemy gets to understand how you feel flying this thing

same Gs and about the same amount of control

[still socket]

Remove the enemy from the battlemap

[covert surge]

return to sender

[novel wolf]

Punch them so hard that they become a combatant in the next combat

[worthy steeple]

im abuse that next game i play

[covert surge]

a person on reddit mentioned a really funny gimmick

plasma thrower + intergrated weapon (thrown knife)

plasma throw, put all the burn square behind the enemy, and then free action throw the knife + kinetic charge and just plonk the enemy across the flaming spaces

[worthy steeple]

lemmie screenshot this

[ornate verge]

God that brings back memories. I had a player so that to a mega fauna and basically one punch man Godzilla.

[covert surge]

beep boop drake alt off the top of my head

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14C13hqKUGUt_14guDGhiU19AfbLh-Ub48QEQykWnNcE/edit?usp=sharing

[stoic gazelle]

Would the Yermak's SVAROG-Class NHP making you use Lock On trigger Iconoclast's Transmuting Spark?

[covert surge]

same as sekhmet which is yes iirc

Roomate-you-have-beef-with NHP

[novel wolf]

Imagine being such an argumentative idiot you reshackle a deimosian with your words

That is true power

This is amazing

[covert surge]

Its like that scene from The World’s End

[novel wolf]

"I think we should hack them"
Argumentative: That's horrible! They're weak and a single shot can finish them off!"
OSIRIS: "That's a horrible idea! If we can hack them well we can do more damage with our allies overwatch!"
STUDENT: "Guys, this is going no where, can we come up with something soon?"
UNSTABLE: "L e t m e u n s h a c k l e a n d I w i l l e n d t h e m"
DIDYMOS: sighs then switches to a timeline where this argument goes well

[covert surge]

Inside your mech is the most heated 6 ways argument ever about the meaning of life and the philosophy of conflict. From the outside it looks like your mech just blue-screened and is just standing there.

When you roll a 1 you make a tiny inconsequential mistake in your argument and thats all your NHP will focuses on instead of the actual argument

[harsh rampart]

Honestly, if I were to suggest one change

[rigid chasm]

where should i look for this?

[harsh rampart]

On a successful argument, you choose the bonus you get, and when the NHP wins, the GM chooses

[rigid chasm]

because i'll be honest i have a player this'd be perfect for

also

may i point out the RSI hermit

[harsh rampart]

Also meme change, instead of a D6 roll, it's a contested check against yourself

[tacit thicket]

you make a minor spelling mistake and your mech explodes instantly from your nhps laughing at you

[sterile light]

relevant:

[sweet marsh]

harry dubois mech

[full nimbus]

Minor spelling error and the OSIRIS NHP mcfucking loses it-

[stoic gazelle]

For level 2, it's a contested systems check with effects on crit

[novel wolf]

Holy fuck, iconoclast build but the other PCs don't know you have the NHPs and they all speak to you like thoughts 😆

[summer swallow]

YEAH

[smoky meteor]

Our complaint with the talent is similar to our complaints about Iconoclast (and in part related)
linear scaling (/neg) that's all

[covert surge]

fixed up the mechanics a bit and make the fluff more serious and more elysium

[rain topaz]

Oh my sweet boy punch god

[novel wolf]

Screw technophile blackthumb, for less talent points get yourself blackthumb, inland antagonist!

You fix the mech up from the outside whilst it cascades!

[covert surge]

And it is complaining about you messing up the paint job the entire time

[novel wolf]

Cascade:
full action - make a skill check (shit talk +4)

Every turn

[cerulean smelt]

This is the FUNNIEST thing ever

I want it

[cerulean smelt]

wait a minute is the little space mech still a thing??

[covert surge]

the baldwin?

[cerulean smelt]

That's the one

[covert surge]

yeah it still exist, dont see a reason why it stopped existing

[cerulean smelt]

That's good, I had a player ask if they could use it for a oneshot of mine and I just thought 'shit haven't heard much about that one in a while'

[vale horizon]

laughing

[covert surge]

Cannot be left unsupervised

[rigid chasm]

That’s busted for iconoclast builds

[covert surge]

Me when i start bullshit argument with budding god in my machine so they can shoot lightning harder

[tacit thicket]

[shell quest]

"Why didn't any of you tell me you are supposed to boil water before you put tea in it"

[covert surge]

icon 3 actually have cascading nhp be able to use icon itself

[tacit thicket]

oh that’s crazy

rolled 0 on the argument dice and now my mech is going to explode

[covert surge]

this is the latest version where I attempt to reign in the Iconoclast stuff a bit

still good for iconoclast but no longer absolutely insane

[tacit thicket]

i pulled out the 🤓👆 card and got counter 🤓👆 ‘d on

[shell quest]

Wouldn't it... not work since you don't lose control?

[covert surge]

you are still considered Cascading

[vale horizon]

that + Icono3 is like annoyedly handing over control to the NHP like "fine asshole, if you think you're so much better at it than i am"

[shell quest]

But iconoclast 3 states "cascade and lose control"

Unless it's just the rest if the talent.

[novel wolf]

I'd interpret it this way tbh

[covert surge]

lemme thonk

[hardy citrus]

I need this so bad

[covert surge]

"When your AI systems Cascade, your bickering takes up their full undivided attention. You may still start an argument while Cascading. On a 1, you get to control 1 Quick Action to take this turn. On a 6, instantly stop Cascading."

I'm going to argue with math god about why well done steak has its place

[smoky meteor]

if only no Iconoclast... though this talent does still have its own linear scaling problem.

[rigid chasm]

it's not yet another AI

[tidal panther]

I think it's funnier if it's yet another nhp, but I guess also I'd point out that if we assume forcing a cascade does actually trigger transcendence, the GM doesn't have to make it use icono beam. If anything, in line with the fluff, the GM would probably just make your mech waste its turn, t-posing and hovering in the air, to bicker with you and your other nhps

designating unstable-chan as my roommate and handing control over to them

[covert surge]

Hence now we have this :P

So you do have a chance to get to use the zap on your own term

You are backseat gaming your roommate’s godhood

[tidal panther]

aaah gotcha lol

[covert surge]

Granted 1 in 6 :V

[tidal panther]

well if you run 4 nhps, you at least get to try 4 times

[shell quest]

Polycule argument.

[cosmic steppe]

How does the rat king work with throw weapons? Do the drones throw the weapon then have to run and pick it up or will hunter 2 let them all get their weapons back?

[spring creek]

I believe the drones have to pick them up

[summer swallow]

Yeah

[covert surge]

Alt talent trees for Crack Shot and Vanguard (incompatible with its corresponding tree)

[vale horizon]

Crowd Control III: And Stay Down, For Real, Stop That

[covert surge]

my hatred for Prone targets is unrivaled

[austere fable]

Hmmm…. What silliness could be unleashed with Stortebeker and Mag Dump…. Probably a non-bo cause the rifles don’t become “Loading” weapons or have the tag.

Oh wait, I think Stort’s wording might work with it.

Yeah only Truesilver seems to probably care if it has the loading tag or not, everything else is just if it’s unloaded or been reloaded this turn.

CPR already has loading so nothing there. Blackspot’s got nice effects depending on your other weapons and systems. Yeah not a ton there.

[covert surge]

yeah its not as insanely strong as you might think at first glance because its Rifle locked

Rifle are usually very no nonsense, I do middle of the road damage at middle of the road range and sometime I have accurate or armor piercing

[austere fable]

The upcoming Sherman Alt that can make anything a rifle might be able to cook up some nonsense though.

[tacit thicket]

uncle hmg tagetes

[covert surge]

furthermore the tagetes should be destroyed

[vale horizon]

*ominous thunderclap*

[covert surge]

damn that gif flashier than I remembered

[vale horizon]

lol

[covert surge]

I remember like a single lightning strike not the whole carameldansen

[tacit thicket]

skip the autostab and go directly for opcal 😌

[vale horizon]

autohit andromeda...

[uncut sonnet]

https://youtu.be/3Q23Wnfat_4

[covert surge]

“If you take this talent as Tagetes your mech instantly explode”

What, not the Iron Maiden song?

[uncut sonnet]

The Protomen version is better imo

also it adjusts the lines about Russian guns to be about Robot guns

which feels apropos

[shell quest]

"The weapon must have originally been a rifle for this talent to work" :p to future proof

[tacit thicket]

-- HA Tagetes @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N Raleigh 3, HA Sherman 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Overpower Caliber, Integrated Weapon
[ TALENTS ]
Crack Shot Trooper 3, Gunslinger 3, Nuclear Cavalier 3
[ STATS ]
HULL:6 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:2
STRUCTURE:4 HP:25 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:7
TECH ATK:-1 LIMITED:+1
SPD:3 EVA:7 EDEF:8 SENSE:8 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun
INTEGRATED WEAPON: Missile Rack
FLEX MOUNT: Missile Rack / Missile Rack
MAIN MOUNT: Rocket-Propelled Grenade
HEAVY MOUNT: Heavy Machine Gun (UNCLE-Class Comp/Con) // Overpower Caliber
[ SYSTEMS ]
“Roland” Chamber, Personalizations, Armament Redundancy

degeneracy

[vale horizon]

evil

[covert surge]

Inshallah I will destroy Tagetes with my own hands

[covert surge]

inelegant but fuck it I dont wanna rework a whole ass talent for one frame

and its homebrew anyway I can get away with it 😎

[shell quest]

I'd say "with the targeted trait"

So normal rifles still work for it.

*Tagetes

[tacit thicket]

tagetes must experience penance for its crimes 😌

[covert surge]

Into the Duat you go

you see what happens when beautiful Harrison Armory frame is sullied by the hands of the Karrakin Trade Baronies

[vale horizon]

what in fuck is done to poor sherman

[covert surge]

WHY YOU WANT RIFLE TYPE FOR ANDROMEDA? IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH AS PROCURED FROM RAS SHAMRA? YOU THINK NEEDS IMPROVEMENT? THEN MAYBE YOU FIND JOB WITH LEGION OF ARMORY! YOU HAVE SUBJECTIVITY BRIDGE WITH THINK TANK, TRADE STORY OF MANY WEAPONS DESIGNED AND DETAILS OF SCHOOL FOR ENGINEERING!

OR MAYBE YOU NOT DO THIS. PROBABLY IS BECAUSE YOU NEVER DESIGN WEAPON IN WHOLE LIFE. YOU LOOK AT SUPERIOR BY DESIGN HARRISON ARMORY CANNNON, THINK IT NEED CRAZY SHIT STICK ON ALL SIDES OF WEAPON. YOU HAVE DISEASE OF KARRAKIN TRADE BARONIES, CHANGE THING THAT IS FINE FOR NO REASON EXCEPT TO SHOW OFF AGAINST OTHER NOBLES IN CLASSROOM. YOU PUT BOOTLEG SEEKING PAYLOAD OF SSC MONARCH ON ONE SIDE, YOU PUT OVERKILL ON OTHER SIDE, YOU PUT HEAVY GUNNER III SO YOU ARE LIKE CRADLE MOVIE GUY JOHNATHAN RAMBOLI. MAYBE YOU PUT SEX DILDO ON TOP TO FUCK YOURSELF IN ASSHOLE FOR MAKING SHAMEFUL TRAVESTY OF CANNON OF HARRISON ARMORY, NO?

CANNON IS FINE. YOU CRACK SHOT IT, IT ONLY GET IMMOBILIZED AND YOU STILL NO HIT LARGEST SIDE OF MOON. GO TO FIRING RANGE, PRACTICE WITH MANY JACKHAMMER ROUND. THEN YOU NOT NEED DUMB SHIT PUT ON SIDE OF ANDROMEDA.

[pale lance]

Ty for giving us options for CQB weapons that aren't vanguard
I keep taking the same stuff every time tsym

[pale lance]

lol, lmao

[still socket]

"I'm an engineer, not a medical doctor. I solve practical problems. No personalies!"
—Mark "Markiplier" Fishbach

[hushed field]

So, apparently it's "Fischbach", but that's not my main point. Er, that is.. That makes my head hurt to read, because that's at least two different quotes put together.

[mild prairie]

Why not just say that it only works on weapons that are rifles at base?

[rigid void]

Just saw the Roommate talent, love it.

I think the 1-talent dip to boost iconoclast is a little cheeky an outcome

And the rank 3 I think needs a wording cleanup to "must take the most recent roll"?

But it's hilarious af and is 100% leaning into the "I have more personalities in my mech than most workplaces have in total" NHP madness ❤️

[smoky meteor]

Crowd Control seems... weird?
Rank 1, if the CQB isn't a template what exactly is the size of the zone of soft cover? Is it just one space? Multiple?
Rank 2. This is, in part, kind of a necessity for the second half of it to work, but it really does just step on Combined Arms' toes.
The rest of it? It's fine, we have no real complaints about it. It is very fun for the positive Accuracy Cannibalbuild though.

also we could maybe tone down some of the open vitriol thanks

[covert surge]

hwat

also it already state "an adjacent space", so one space

[smoky meteor]

not necessarily just you and we might be being a little intense about it but like
wdk "the tagetes should be destroyed" and its extensions, even as a bit, feels like it's maybe creeping beyond the event horizon of joke into some of "this frame and its designers suck" territory

[shell quest]

I am weirdly attached to Dullahan being a rather good drone/Hacking platform.

[worthy steeple]

how?

[vale horizon]

20 sensors can go a long way i suppose

[shell quest]

20 sensors, yeah.

[vale horizon]

and +1 base tech attack

also nice

[shell quest]

Drones and deployables, stuff like Accelerate can go crazy.

[covert surge]

:3

[vale horizon]

i don't figure that Thinking-Tomorrow's-Thought works w/ pilot attacks but it'd be really funny if it could

[vale horizon]

rofl this rules

[covert surge]

Ram enemy into ally for overwatch, overwatch knocks them right back adjacent to you, Titanomanchy to grapple, and then Get Their Ass

[shell quest]

Just moving them, lmao.

[covert surge]

https://tenor.com/view/jumping-willoww-gif-21958563

[vale horizon]

stomp that mf OUT

[covert surge]

fuckin naming this talent GANK would be hilarious

[crude ravine]

When does Get Their Ass happen? Seems it could use an "as a free action" clause in there maybe?

[covert surge]

oops forgot as a quick action

[crude ravine]

ah that works

[covert surge]

lesser Vlad

but you can take it on anyone

[crude ravine]

huh yeah thinking about it, it only takes a few allied attacks on a 2 or 3 armour enemy for that to end up worth it

[cosmic steppe]

Does the bonus damage on Ring of Fire trigger on your attacks or only allies?

[crude ravine]

it says allied attacks

[shell quest]

Question (s) regarding External Loader from Dullahan

1. Could I "dry load" to build heat, even If I have no unloaded weapons?
2. If I have already loaded, could I prepare an action to reload after I fire on an overeatch?

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z6HgnjWI8M7sfALuSTerJxml1MbC31inyTudkNxNdbc/edit?usp=sharing

current Heruka version

[pale lance]

Heruka rework?

[rigid chasm]

he broke one of his own rules with it

"quick action improv. attack"

[pale lance]

WHAT

5 HEAT

[covert surge]

For a melee full action, for that cost you can just full tech two invades and deal 4 heat + two control options

[rigid chasm]

as opposed to 6 actual damage

and remember

you can't meltdown NPCs

you can at worst make them exposed

[rigid chasm]

well, non-boss NPCs at least

[pale lance]

Fair point

Not broken, just a lot

Neato

[shell quest]

🥺?

[covert surge]

No and no

Tbh nothing i design has ever taken prepare into consideration lol

[shell quest]

Ok. f

[delicate lichen]

heruka rework is fantastic and exactly what the frame needed but also i can't believe what happened to RAVANA, free my boy he did nothing wrong

(joking)

[covert surge]

He ate the Chomolungma lunch too much

[vale horizon]

chomolunchma

[worthy steeple]

hey terk
whats ur favrouite gear quotes that youve made?

[covert surge]

“Liturgicode? Recursive Processing Weave? Son, this is a 2 meter long carbon-bonded stick. You jam it into a servo and it don’t work no more. And the stick will never lose reception.”

[worthy steeple]

yup
personally
I like the one for the geryon, the chat one for the NHP
and I also like the one in the HORUS Dullahan, about the thying firing rebar

[covert surge]

bored so have a license for the cool Sparri harpoon mech illustration from the CRB
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kBpSBgNA644TIv2V1tuXjS6gHaoi3r9YEUYxxK9l1o4/edit?usp=sharing

[brittle thicket]

Oooooo

[austere fable]

Oooooo… burst 2 loading main melee… the Stortebeker would like to know your location.

[stoic gazelle]

I wanna do it on a size 3 mech instead

[sterile light]

incredibly silly rules question

does the Guardian trait count as a "zone that provides soft cover" for the purposes of Kishka!Aerosolized Whitewash

(given that the effect provides soft cover, and only to things within a specific area)

[austere fable]

Also a very good use of that weapon.

[waxen quartz]

Wait WHAT

[rigid chasm]

Yeah no, unless they have multiple stress they just get exposed

[waxen quartz]

Where does it say that?

Everything I see in the core book (the free version, at least) says that a mech will suffer a reactor meltdown and be destroyed on the round after it hits 0 stress.

[brittle thicket]

NPCs have seperate rules, detailed in the GM's section

Mostly the same, but with some notably differences, like their meltdown rule

[waxen quartz]

Can you clip a picture of that? My table has been playing that wrong literally the whole time.

[waxen quartz]

Holy crap.

We've been using the Free version of the rules and Comp Con, so no wonder we missed it.

[brittle thicket]

wut

How??

Where have you been getting your NPC statblocks?

don't tell me you have been using player frames as NPCs

[waxen quartz]

No, my GM has just been getting the statblocks from Comp Con, but comp con doesn't have all of the NPC rules in it.

At least, not that I've seen.

We don't use comp con itself to run the games though, just as digital character sheets.

[brittle thicket]

Oh, I guess it doesn't

[waxen quartz]

Well that was my queue to buy the full book

[brittle thicket]

wait

I'm confused how your GM has the NPC statblocks but not the full book

To get the NPC statblocks for Comp/Con, you need to buy the full book

[waxen quartz]

I have no idea. He might have gotten it at some point.

[brittle thicket]

Wack

[brittle thicket]

Anywho, tis page 281 for your reference :>

(NPC-specific rules)

[waxen quartz]

It's also possible that we just never looked at that part of the book. We've been having normal 1 stress/1 structure units leave behind wrecks and meltdown like other units.

[brittle thicket]

Fair lol

There are many rules

[waxen quartz]

True. I mean, this doesn't really change the outcome eof most of our fights, cause we usually just shoot everything, but still

I wonder why that is the way it is? Just to make them harder to kill?

[rigid chasm]

It’s to make NPCs with 1 stress and 6 heat cap not instantly die

[waxen quartz]

Ah

[rigid chasm]

Grunts still die as soon as they take any heat

[waxen quartz]

Right, grunts die to a stiff wind.

[rigid chasm]

And exposed is a big deal

[waxen quartz]

True, double damage on 1 structure is no joke, it's just a weird in-between where grunts die to heat, STRONGER enemies die to heat, but mid-range foes don't.

[rigid chasm]

Mmm fair

[waxen quartz]

Am I also correct in thinking that, since it says they're destroyed when they hit 0 stress, they're not supposed to leave behind a wreck?

Or do they still leave a wreck?

[rigid chasm]

Also I don’t think NPCs can ever actually clear the exposed

I think grunts still do

[waxen quartz]

Right cause NPCS can't Stabilize

Oh, damn. And even Juggernaut doesn't clear it, cause exposed is a status, not a condition.

[rigid chasm]

Well, they can, but all it does is load weapons

[waxen quartz]

Wait, that's not correct:

man I'm learning things today lol

Ohhh, they can't clear CONDITIONS when they Stabilize.

I want to be clear, We ran a full, year and a half long campaign without knowing this lolol

[rigid chasm]

Oh huh, ok they can clear exposed

Unless they’re a legionnaire

[waxen quartz]

Yeah

[ornate verge]

So playing in a game that has a kishka, a Caliban, a Gorshkov, a Purple Flytrap(from w. Zal), and I'm in a Feohn from Illean so I'm a size 2 defender/support with a bunch of size 1/2 teammates. And I basically have an aircraft carrier launch catapult built into my mech. Which means I can yeet people at problems. We basically are a paratrooper squad and it's amazing. Though I have a question to pass on from one of the other players. How do you build a kishka for more artillery with a splash of support?

[formal cargo]

Just wondering where ya'll stand on a ruling for the Rat King. Rat King, equipped with the Bolt Nexus from the Emperor license I. Each Sputnik drone gets their own Bolt Nexus. Does each drone have to hit with it's own Bolt Nexus to use the "Target Acquired" profile of the Bolt Nexus? Or do they all benefit from the same initial hit, so long as they continue to attack the same target, which they have to as the Rat King's "Target Acquired" Quick action forces them to all attack the same target as their only form of attacking?

I have pros and cons for both sides of the argument:

So, if they all benefit from the same initial hit, this seems like a way to pump out a fairly large amount of reliable damage each turn. Say you have 3 drones and are equipped with two Bolt Nexus in your Flex Mount; meaning your sputniks are ALSO equipped with two Bolt Nexus each. you skirmish with the flex mount, firing at a target, hitting both times. The first time, dealing one damage, the second time dealing four reliable damage. You then use your "Target Acquired" quick action and each of your drones also then fire both of their Bolt Nexus, dealing half damage per hit, but that's still 4 reliable damage per drone for a total of 1 energy and 12 reliable energy damage against a target per turn. Or you could flip it and use "Target Acquired" first, and have your drones do all the missing for you and then follow up with your skirmish after, so you're not wasting one of your 4 damage shots when a drone could get the initial hit in. Doing it that way let's say you hit on the first drone shot, you deal 1 energy damage and 18 reliable damage. That's a fair amount of damage to pump out. And even if you miss the initial hit, you are essentially firing 8 Bolt Nexus a turn, and any after the first hit you get gain reliable.

If they don't all benefit from the same initial hit and it's per weapon or per drone, then that's a whole lot of things for you or the DM to take note of. Which weapon has hit, which hasn't, from you or from the Sputnik Drones. Rules as Written, it's per gun. so even your own Bolt Nexus don't gain the Target Aquired profile from other Bolt Nexus you have equipped: "Once This Weapon hits a character, it gains the Target Acquired profile against that character only until you attack a new character with this weapon."

Annoyingly, we don't get any lore on how this weapon works, but I can imagine it's an example of the ammunition has trackers in it that, after the initial hit, the other ammunition can home in on? So "rule of cool" and stuff, working out how it works in-setting rather than in rules, I'd house rule it that all Bolt Nexus you control benefit from the initial hit, and that's how I'll DM it in the game it's come up in, but I wanted to see other people's opinions?

[rigid chasm]

Considering they share limited charges and loaded/unloaded status?

[covert surge]

Bolt is a main so not sure how you are getting 2 bolt on one drone

[formal cargo]

I am very silly and thought it was an aux

But it isn't limited or loading, just smart (And seeking in Target Acquired mode)

So yeah bearing that in mind, the damage is actually about half of my example from last night, which really doesn't seem too bad? So for simplicity's sake I'd say they all use Target Acquired after any of them hit, just so I don't have to keep a count of which drone has already hit and which hasn't. It's still a lot of reliable damage to pump out a turn, especially if you hit with the first Bolt Nexus you use, but eh. Answered my own question really lol

[shell quest]

I wonder, Will Dullahan eva have an LCP, or is it one of the "Remains a concept/doc only" mechs? ((Not complaining just geniuelly curious if there are Terk Mechs that will never leave the doc stage, and Dullahan seems unorthodox enough to qualify.

[covert surge]

Its in the pipe but yeah its hella experimental and balance will not be

[raven socket]

https://i.imgur.com/J9bnx7v.png

The peeker

[rigid chasm]

starts refreshing itch.io page

[raven socket]

Not quite yet, but soon™️

[raven socket]

Sent to Terk for review.

[winter temple]

Yar har fiddle dee dee

[full nimbus]

You think you can hide, but Morgan can see ye!

[open ginkgo]

I love all these things of the mech peeping/staring at you

[cedar tapir]

Especially the Raleigh with the eye on top

[indigo grail]

how is the mechanics sheet of the Morgan doing?

[covert surge]

@herethe Morgan is released to the LCP! Ransack and Plunder with a wide array of indiscriminate weapons and remember if any one ask, you are just an independent pirate and has no relation to IPS-N whatsoever
Design Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eCfrWd06O6mhQ7LezqGIlCdAF1IpDsvN1_ZBhT0jAc8/edit?usp=sharing

[shell quest]

Glorious timing I was literally gonna make a blorb using stuff from the license lmao

[cedar tapir]

Blackbeard is definitely my favorite mech so can’t wait to check this out

[pliant kestrel]

Corsair Claw is so funny

just yeeting something across the map

[covert surge]

https://tenor.com/view/eminem-guess-whos-back-im-gif-25812716

[pliant kestrel]

IPS-N Really said "To fight the pirates, we must become the pirates"

[covert surge]

A pirate did it

Foolproof alibi

[stoic gazelle]

"No, no, these aren't pirates, these fine mech pilots are privateers"

[winter temple]

can the Morgan toss deployables of any size or is it restricted to Size 1

if so I had a very funny mental image of a Morgan yeeting a Portable Bunker at allies

[pliant kestrel]

hmm thats true

its probably intended to be size 1 or less

but that would indeed be funny

Hm I also noticed something weird about the Keg, since it deals 3 Explosive + 3 Burn

but deals half on a successful saves, that is still 2 Explosive + 2 Burn

i guess as a core deployable that probably takes up most of the budget, but thats still a good chunk of damage

[rancid haven]

I convinced a friend of mine to start playing lancer, he ends up building a Habsburg from Enhanced Combat, only to discover Arthur's Avalon Generator

The idea of throwing a pylon from habsburg and immediately popping Avalon to send an entire squad to intangible shadow realm is hilarious

[summer swallow]

minor nitpick

core desc: the fuel rod gun is less of a distinct weapon and more of a trend among lancers. most likely taking notes from, uh... what's a corporate term for this

aftermarket... something something?

[jaunty dust]

So, how exactly is the Morgan meant to be a defender?

[covert surge]

Barrels are deterrents due to their arming mechanics

[jaunty dust]

Wouldn’t it be more a controller then? Apologies if it’s a dumb question, just confused

[covert surge]

Those role descriptor are vague guideline anyway

[shell quest]

What's the Idea with the flintlock btw?

Also corsair claw is an amazing way to redeploy stuff I love it to bits

OH WAIT THEY ARE A LINE

I am blind

I see what the idea with them is.

[shell quest]

What happens when the Ammo depot is empty? Does it simply become a discount keg, or is it destroyed? I hope it's the first one.

[shell quest]

When you are using Corsair claw, do you have to have LoS to where you are throwing an object, or is it optional?

[covert surge]

It stay on the field just like shield gen

Los is required unless stated otherwise

[shell quest]

Okie

M... you could chain 2 kegs by lining one up next to you, then deploying another, and throwing the first one at it, that is really fun.

[winter temple]

Kidd Morgan is a match

[vale horizon]

corsair claw omnibus plate...

[pliant kestrel]

me when I play Frisbee

[winter temple]

Perimeter Command Plate Morgan

[winter temple]

also do Drones count as deployables for the Morgan

[shell quest]

Nope zey are characters sadly.

So they would just get... scrongled or whatever the word was.

(Shredded)

Morgan with Strenght Suite 1 just throwing stuff around like a tantruming child

Wait. Emplacement from Kidd is size 1

It can be thrown

[shell quest]

Me in me pirate mech throwin' the watch tower three times me size

[cedar tapir]

Hey since the Morgan is based off the black beard I decided to compare them. It kind of seems from a base view that stat and ability wise it’s just better

[covert surge]

heavy mount

[cedar tapir]

Do heavy mounts really make that big of a difference?

[covert surge]

yes

you will note that theres absolutely no way to get another one in Lancer

it is a frame-defining feature

[cedar tapir]

Oh yeah.
Btw I really like the Morgan the weapons and abilities really go for a piratey vibe

[pale lance]

Morgan and Blackbeard have similar stats but are fairly different in terms of playstyle

Blackbeard is a bit more durable and lots to grapple (obviously). It's a pure brawler frame. Also has stronger offense of the two thanks to a heavy mount.

Morgan has more SP and traits focused on making use of a variety of systems, specifically deployables. Also loves template weapons

It has much more utility in this sense

[shell quest]

[ LICENSES ]
  IPS-N Morgan 3, IPS-N Tortuga 2, IPS-N DUILIUS 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints, Mount Retrofitting
[ TALENTS ]
  Vanguard 3, Grease Monkey 3, Gunslinger 3
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:23 ARMOR:0
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:6 REPAIR:7
  TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:6 EVA:10 EDEF:6 SENSE:10 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
  FLEX MOUNT: "Flintlock" Disposable Cannon / "Flintlock" Disposable Cannon
  RETROFITTED MOUNT: Catalytic Hammer / HSS-025 "Jaywalker" Shotgun // Mount Retrofitting
  MAIN/AUX MOUNT: HSS-100 "Reaver" Shotgun / HSS-025 "Jaywalker" Shotgun // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Total Shutdown, OS-Un Subaltern Squad, Claptrap, Siege Ram, "Powder Monkey" Ammo Depot x2```

Is this anything?

It is a bit awkward having two loading weapons and then a limited tho...

But I also dislike having only one loading weapon, it feels awkward to stabilize then.

[ebon yacht]

can someone give a quick run down on how dagon is played?

like what is it's overall playstyle? it feels like (and even looks like) gorgon but mroe spooky

[shell quest]

It's a very potent counter-hacker

[ebon yacht]

antimagic tank?

tank in the loosest sense of course

[vale horizon]

yeah it forces tech attackers to aim at it and then punishes them for doing so

you can put stuff on it like the SCORPION V70.1 from gorgon 2 to really hurt em more

[ebon yacht]

Wait forces?

Hold on I gotta reread the license 💀💀

[vale horizon]

Prescence of Dagon
Enemies within the Dagon’s Sensor Range and Line of Sight must make a contested System Check when making a tech attack. On a failure, the tech attack is directed at the Dagon instead.

it likes Lesson of Disbelief a lot

[pliant kestrel]

ouch

[ebon yacht]

and this synchs with Gaze into the Abyss that makes hiding basically impossible

[vale horizon]

yup, you can't take advantage of it having a short sensor range

[shell quest]

Mm... flintlocks would go hard on Gilgamesh.

[shell quest]

I wish they had a bit more limited... I just feel like I should save them for later, lmao.

[kindred tartan]

Yeah that's a problem I have with em

[shell quest]

And I refuse to put them on anything but a flex because otherwhise I will end up with a main/aux that has no aux to it.

[kindred tartan]

It feels like taking flint locks is asking for you to invest in engi

On a frame with 4 heatcap...

[shell quest]

I mean. 4 hc alone wants you to invest in Heatcap

[kindred tartan]

And also invest into HA for the bonus + to get more limited to make Grease monkey worth it

But you seem to want more ISP-N stuff as the Morgan?

And also like

Hmmm how phrase

[shell quest]

Y?

[kindred tartan]

Oh yeah, you also go want more hull to increase 5 repair cap to actually use grease monkeh

[shell quest]

My main issue is a lot of HA stuff has heat build.

Which I am not thrilled about lmao.

[kindred tartan]

Between Raleigh, Tortuga, Kidd and Caliban

And also Diulius

[shell quest]

... how does CALIBAN help of all things.

[kindred tartan]

There's a lot of stuff the Morgan can really work with

[kindred tartan]

Caliban 1 has great mod

[shell quest]

I feel like Caliban is a rather bad choice here.

Tortuga yeah, I see Tortuga.

[kindred tartan]

Essentially more knockback on a Main Aux with Jaywalker

[shell quest]

I do have Tortuga 2 in my current build I'm brain worming.

I would not want more KB on Jaywalker.

[kindred tartan]

No no

[shell quest]

If I get more it would knock adjacent targets out of vanguard range.

[kindred tartan]

I meant on the Main Weapon

[shell quest]

Ah

[kindred tartan]

In a Main/Jaywalker combo

Seems real goodge

I'd also mention Diulius 3 has that mod

Converting a rifle to CQBm

[shell quest]

Yeah but there is not many rifles.

[kindred tartan]

That would be hilarious on a Morgan, even though I don't often use it on Duilius

[kindred tartan]

BUT IMAGINE FRIEND

That mod

On like a Rail Rifle

With reliable 3 from Morgan...

[shell quest]

Stuff I cobbled together that I am worried about because of

Not enough range to detonate barrels.

Unless I grab a grenade.

All my higher ranged options are limited either way.

[kindred tartan]

You know what else would work great? Warp grenades

That's a good limited for this guy, plus it's a reason to invest in HA

Man this mech will be even more awesome when Gilgamesh come out

Could have noice synergies there between kit and core bonus opportunity

[shell quest]

As I said :p

But I really do wish Flintlocks had limited 5

[kindred tartan]

Yesh

[kindred tartan]

Yeah

Facts

Alsp

Sunzi 2 sounds good

For grenades and eifle

[covert surge]

It being a cannon let you have siege spec 1 with just an aux so you can jackhammer when you dont wanna shoot the lim

no door is closed when you can just jackhammer for 20AP to terrain and object

[kindred tartan]

Man I want to either

Like

Have a Hydra Morgan

Whichd be very funny

Between throwing barrels and Puppet Master/Drone controller and the Tempest

Or try to build a Loading build with Raleigh

Hmmmm

Later

A melee Morgan could be viable with Pinning Spire and Pankrati

But that's a reach and a half

Ight but WHAT IF

Morgan 3, Raleigh 2, Manticore 1

Loading and Heat Gen Stabiliser Build with only 4 heatcap-

[shell quest]

Jaclhammer is not usable on deployables is it?

[covert surge]

automatically dealing 10 AP Kinetic damage to a Size 1 section of any object within Range (e.g., cover, deployable equipment, buildings, or terrain).

[shell quest]

!

I never noticed this.

My love of Siege Spec 1 increases.

... damn, Morgan might be my new fav mech because of all that terrain destruction

Reverse Kobold

Koboldn't

Also does K-EG deal 10 AP to terrain, like it says, or is it doubled by the trait too?

[covert surge]

x2 ;)

[shell quest]

Call that universal key

[ornate verge]

Dear god I love it.

[winter temple]

Morgan Salamander (Enhanced Combat) Iskander team

what battlefield? what cover?

Add in Kobold for

My cover, my deployables, my objective

[ornate verge]

Honestly maybe throw in a Worden from suldan for covering fire with the GPMG and just hold the damn map

[undone oar]

I have a question about how the rat king Sputnik drones work when using the Tomahawk from the painted lady ll3. If a Sputnik drone retrieves its tomahawk weapons how does it roll an agility check if it lacks an agility score?

Assuming of course you find a way to make the weapons thrown in the first place for the drones.

[covert surge]

You do not roll, the dedicated qa is the only way to attack with the rats

[undone oar]

Thank you.

[hardy citrus]

Minor formatting issue in the compendium

[hardy citrus]

does broadside trigger for K-Eg

[covert surge]

No broadside is only for attack

[solar gale]

So with the new IPS-N frame (Morgan) it brings with it the ability for you to get reliable 3 once per round. Coincidentally Tukhachevky's Karpov System is a cone weapon that does 1 energy and 2 heat. So... How does reliable 3 interact with this? Does that mean that the weapon just now deals 3damage? and what about the heat? since it's not a "deals x or y damage" and instead does both does that mean that the heat will also be affected by reliable so that it would now deal 3and 3? or would the heat stay the same and be unaffected?

[covert surge]

3 energy heat unaffected

[solar gale]

Oh if only...

a shame but entirely understable

[limpid obsidian]

Feels obvious but wanted to check as integrated equipment is usually not affected by modifiers. is the Limited tag on The Subutai's aux thrusters ment to be effected by H.A.S.E?

[covert surge]

It is affected

Same as Sunzi

[limpid obsidian]

Time to make The Brudenell move even faster.

[sterile light]

dear lord

[limpid obsidian]

Rainmaker: Boy I sure love being away from the enemy!

The Brundenell, about to demonstrate what happens when you Nearlight Bolt in atmosphere:

[novel wolf]

"They're on the other side of the map and have a base speed of 3, they can't do anything"

[hybrid ledge]

Woe, Brudenell be upon thee

https://tenor.com/view/jamiroquai-virtual-insanity-watermark-gif-27628516

[mild prairie]

this feels very Brudenell-esque

[spare lance]

Why is the Yermak so big?

[stoic gazelle]

To maximize the area prospected if they're a digger

[vapid dagger]

Has anyone brought up Arthur 2's Full Chassis Reinforcement (specifically: the Patience option) in conjunction with napoleon's passive (reduce all damage to 1 when bracing) and metalmark 1's reactive weave (when you brace, move up to your speed and become invisible)?

You'd probably have to homebrew both of those things to only trigger 1/round, otherwise a Napoleon with FCR and reactive weave (as early as LL5 with Nap 2 Arthur 2 Metalmark 1) would have permanent invisibility, crazy damage reduction and the ability to move up to infinite times its speed off-turn, depending on how many times it was hit, and if it was hit a second time it'd be able to take protocols and free actions by choosing Audacity.

There's a possibility that the enemy will simply not choose to attack a target that's already taken Patience, but that already makes the mech with FCR (and reactive weave) much more survivable since they can't be focused down. Brace also works on allied attacks, so if allies have a main/aux or an aux/aux they could shoot their FCR buddy to trigger Audacity and/or make them move even further with reactive weave

[rigid chasm]

“Can only be used to take brace again”

Mmm maybe