Terk Mech & Tech

[wraith birch]

I love it.

[covert surge]

Its pretty funny you used on a witch tho

“Your suite of sophisticated top of the line electronic warfare intrusion package are no match for the Armory power of trying again”

[wraith birch]

Yeah, I had a friendly Monarch looking over the entire battlefield so I can just rat around in a corner and just melt them from beyond their sensor range with core. The funny thing is, both my teammates have better sensor ranges than me (Monarch and Tort) but it didn't matter because I had core.

They wanted to heat gun my friends, so I heatgunned them back.

[covert surge]

lil darius sketch

[harsh rampart]

😌 another egg

[covert surge]

i have a theme

[worthy steeple]

what's this meach gonna do?

[covert surge]

this

[worthy steeple]

noice

[spring creek]

only thing is that you now have two (potentially now 3 with duelist) counters to keep track of that all apply to melee attacks of some sort with the dharmachakra

otherwise I really like it

[indigo grail]

YES

ROUND ISKANDER ALT

[sweet marsh]

iskandegg

[raven socket]

eggskander

[indigo grail]

COSMIC EGG

[sweet marsh]

fuck eggskander is way better

[indigo grail]

y'know what

[covert surge]

terk mech and tech long history with eggs

one of the points brought up when I was discussing with Bluenexa about making the supplement was and I quote

This is probably going to get an extra carton of eggs or something each month since its a small pwyw supplement :P

[spring creek]

Egg salad skander

[covert surge]

o7 🥚

[indigo grail]

when I see the SSC goldstreak and the mentioned part of letting allies take damage for its healing affects to be stronger, then I just imagine them having a sort of crazy diamond ability to punch the shit out of their allies to heal them and armor them as well

[covert surge]

genuinely no idea what im going to do with goldstreak when I get to it

dont exactly have any good idea for it and I kinda dont feel the design anymore

[indigo grail]

oof

Sorry to hear that Terk

[covert surge]

I had one idea kinsugiri and that's it that's the entire visual design of the mech

its just a kinda

a guy

[indigo grail]

hmmm

I wish I could suggest a idea, but I remember you talking about not wanting suggestions from other people, right?

[covert surge]

might not even do the frame tbh and let it join the club of crab and zhukov

[cerulean smelt]

Terrible terrible loss 😔

Farewell kintsugi mech

[covert surge]

well burn that bridge when we get there

maybe ill get a random brainblast or sth

[indigo grail]

or maybe the power of the Shower will save it

that sounds weird

[hardy citrus]

Blue seeing this /j

[covert surge]

not for TMNT but something I just worked on for another supplement

[raven socket]

Damn
That is an aesthetic

[covert surge]

Iron Maiden core

[ornate verge]

Oh I am digging this

[raven socket]

Also
I have a licence sitting in my inbox ready to be put in the LCP.. Should be the next few days, hopefully

[sterile light]

👀
which one

[raven socket]

I'll give you a hint
||Wouldn't you like to know?||

(This is genuinely a hint and not me being snide, btw)

[open ginkgo]

Heh. But yeah, guessing last couple of commisions all been for the same suppliment? Getting a kinda shared vibe

[spring creek]

deniable asset Morgan?

[spring creek]

I'm looking at a Phasma grapple build, and I'm running into a problem - is it possible to grapple more than one enemy? If you grapple an enemy you both become intangible and then you cant grapple more enemies. Is there something about "in control of grapple" rules that lets you just decide to be in control or not?

woah its actually even worse than that - Im not sure there even is an in-game system for "in control of a grapple"

[vapid scroll]

i think the first clause of transposition lets you grapple tangible enemies while intangible

[spring creek]

...

I need to learn to fucking read

[vapid scroll]

happens to the best of us

[spring creek]

-- SSC Phasma @ LL7 --
[ LICENSES ]
SSC Phasma 2, IPS-N Zheng 3, HA FRUNDSBERG 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Superheavy Mounting, Gyges Frame
[ TALENTS ]
Duelist 3, Executioner 3, Pankrati 2, Brawler 1, Tactician 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:6 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:1
STRUCTURE:4 HP:26 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:7 REPAIR:6
TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+0
SPD:6 EVA:10 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
SUPERHEAVY MOUNT: D/D 288
FLEX MOUNT: Blade Mantle
MAIN MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
[ SYSTEMS ]
Articulation Sync, Blade Guard, Total Strength Suite II, Stable Structure, Armament Redundancy

The best use for the D/D 288: +3 armor

[raven socket]

There absolutely is

Finding it in the book

To GRAPPLE, choose an adjacent character and make
a melee attack. On a hit:
• both characters become ENGAGED;
• neither character can BOOST or take reactions for
the duration of the grapple;
• the smaller character becomes IMMOBILIZED but
moves when the larger party moves, mirroring
their movement. If both parties are the same SIZE,
either can make contested HULL checks at the
start of their turn: the winner counts as larger
than the loser until this contest is repeated.
A GRAPPLE ends when:
• either character breaks adjacency, such as if they
are knocked back by another effect;
• the attacker chooses to end the grapple as a free
action;
• The defender breaks free by succeeding on a
contested HULL check as a quick action.
If a GRAPPLE involves more than two characters, the
same rules apply, but when counting SIZE, add
together the SIZE of all characters on each side. For
example, if two SIZE 1 allied characters are grappling
a single SIZE 2 enemy, the allied characters count as a
combined SIZE 2 and can try to drag their foe around.

So normally it's the larger party

And the phasma is size 3

[spring creek]

My confusion has been cleaned up, but here's what I was misunderstanding: I didn't see the line where the Phasma could grab people while intangible, so I thought you'd be stuck grabbing one person and then you both are intangible and you cant grab anybody else. That made me wonder if you could cede control of the grapple so you could go grapple more people, but thats really moot and stupid because you can just grapple people anyways.

[raven socket]

Ah, gotcha

[shell quest]

And yes, if for any reason ypu would wanna do it, you absolutely can surrender the control of the grapple, but only if you are the same size as the combined size of enemies you are grappling.

((You can simply choose to fail the hull check))

Which isn't all that useful, but is a thing

[hushed field]

Hey Terk! Hòu Yì Gauss Crossbow question:

The Explosive Clamp mode has this text:

Choose an equipped system with the Grenade Tag. Spend one charge to throw the grenade at the targeted enemy position, hit or miss.
Is this required, and can you throw mines?

[sterile light]

ooh actually that makes me wonder
if you had a hypothetical grenade that explicitly doesn't have or require charges, can you like. throw it anyway or does it Require You To Spend A Charge No Matter What :V

[harsh rampart]

Yeah, if it has no Limited tag it's just infinite

[covert surge]

You may choose if you wanna clamp the grenade onto it or not, and only nades

[hushed field]

Understood. Thanks.

[tawdry jungle]

can someone send me the itch link again

nvm found it

[steel furnace]

Are there any NPC mechs you drawn Terk?

[cosmic steppe]

When Frundsburg uses its core power, and then later cancels it as a quick action, can it use it again later in the same combat?

[fleet pumice]

impaired from structure/stress doesn't count as self-inflicted right

[open ginkgo]

Don't think so?

[covert surge]

if you can clear it with stabilize you can clear it with the system

[fleet pumice]

makes sense, thanks

[halcyon owl]

Is there a way to use the unreleased frames on compcon ?

[sweet marsh]

im pretty sure if they're unreleased they don't fully exist yet

rather than like, being there but hidden due to not being sufficiently playtested or something

[halcyon owl]

hmmmm, gotcha

[sweet marsh]

which frame are you talking about?

[fresh reef]

For Terk frames, usually the lcp doesn't exist until a while after the frame is finalised in document form.

[halcyon owl]

dulhallan

[halcyon owl]

hmmm, ok

thanks

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jZfwzjE2V-z-SR6f8JpTJ-e_3J7Ca8_1nm14FmOHxf0/edit?usp=sharing

reworking the Lord to have less overhead in terms of info and make it easier to implement into lcp/gaem

[cosmic steppe]

delicious

[tardy zephyr]

• Is the BB-SLC intended to be useable by the Lord itself? Maybe change the third paragraph a little to "You or any allied mech" if so?
• Purely a vibes suggestion, but while Quartermaster is nice, I think it might benefit from a bit of spice? Maybe allowing the Lord to repair adjacent allied weapons when stabilizing, maybe even at doubled cost if balancing is needed. This would also synergize well with Auxiliary Weapon Link.
• Lock and Load ignoring Ordnance is odd when 1) the Lord is immobilized and 2) brings up the question of, do allied mechs stop ignoring ordnance when they move away, such that they can only really move one space (two if the Lord has House Guard)? I think the trait overall is sick tho.
• The TCK-50 change is nice, I like that it plays into Heavy Gunner well now. I also like how it still synergizes with Suppression Subroutine and now also Twin Barrels.
• Two Stages Charge got a cool boost, though I'm a little sad it doesn't work with TCK-50. But with Gunsmith maybe it doesn't need to. I also would expect it to deal 10 damage to objects just because tracking object HP that much (speaking as a GM) is bothersome, but that's not really a concern.
• Does the additional text on Retrocausal Mod imply that it works on Suppression Subroutine? It's unclear because I wouldn't guess that to be an "external" source.
• Still love the Lord. Bless the Lord.

Though now that I think about it, I somehow only associate ordnance with movement, but that's not true.

[covert surge]

You can use the turret yourself
Lock and Load basically allows you to use a qa to be able to move before firing ordnance as well as others to do the same as long as they move up to the Lord’s position
Retrocausal additional is just there to cover my bases it still doesnt bypass surpression

Allies stop ignoring ordnance when they move away

You can run like 6 spaces and throw nades or whatever, as long as you fire the weapon while adjacent, you get to ignore ordnance

[tardy zephyr]

Okay, I see how it goes now then. Nice.

Thank you!

[hardy citrus]

wait, so it only has 1 weapon mount, if im following right, so its only got 1 mount option for the core power?
can it target integrated mounts using this ability as well (Such as the integrated superheavy, aux, or bonus main)? How do mounts with superheavies on it work?

[covert surge]

its intended to cover the usage of corebonus that grant mounts

and it works just normally with superheavy,

you are ripping out two mount slot and putting it on the floor and it still takes a Barrage to fire

[hardy citrus]

only reason i ask is cause it says you choose one mount, ty for clarifying

[vale horizon]

i was about to ask about deactivating the BB-SLC and then i tabbed back over to the doc and saw that addition at the bottom lol

[covert surge]

I just remembered that I need to add a pick this back up clause :3

[hardy citrus]

huh, wait i noticed, is it a TERK original, using the cyan color for mods?

i think its only your stuff ive seen it on

[covert surge]

comp/con does it

so I just modified the template to add a version with the comp/con color

helps with navigation at a glance

[hardy citrus]

huhh yea

i guess id never seen it on paper

[indigo gulch]

I like this new Lord

much more streamlined

also the Retrocausal mod is funny

[covert surge]

should make it not death to try and intergrate into lcp :P

weapon swap is thematic but also a big hassle both in term of text ruling and tighening wordings and also mechanically to be intergrated into a table and the pay off is middling

[ornate verge]

Why am I getting R6 siege Tachanka vibes? I mean I dig it extraordinarily but wasn't expecting it

[sweet marsh]

the lord integrated mod slot still costs sp, right?

[covert surge]

Yes

It has 8sp for a reason

[winged hamlet]

For the integrated mod slot, I presume if the mod is limited, ally use also consumes limited charges? For if you stick a thermal charge in the mod slot. Would that allow stacking thermal charge mods?

[covert surge]

It consumes limited yes

Ill add a unique clause later so you cant slap two stabilizer and shoot cannibal at 13 range

[hardy citrus]

WAIT DO MELEE WEAPONS GET +10 RANGE ON THE TURRET?

they only have a threat, not a range

[hardy citrus]

👍 i cant read

i just woke back up oopsie

[open ginkgo]

Like the way you did the intrigrated mod- much better then my attempt

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q9yCi8rsMxjSrO8t0XZeVt8u0XAo_ohrcRHSRKSKz3w/edit?usp=sharing

Caliban alt :3

now only to figure out how to make a Horus alt and we will have 4 for 4

hooks into its various defense system and the inherent inaccuracy of all its weapon and the cannibal loading

[orchid fox]

a goblin alt that is somehow even more fragile and hacking focused
/s

[harsh rampart]

+20 TA 1 HP 0 Repairs

[orchid fox]

you either make all of your opponents overheat before they get into range or you die, its that simple

[covert crescent]

The bombard sitting in the back of the map:

[ornate verge]

Oh it's an even angrier caliban. I didn't know that was possible

[spring creek]

melee Pegasus

[ornate verge]

You joke but I've seen it done.....and honestly it's freaky

[fresh reef]

The only thing scarier than a Caliban is a Caliban that can heal itself

At least, with a normal one, you can slowly and surely pick it off

[fresh reef]

It's actually quite good, Ushabti and By The Way, I Know Everything do not care about engagement, and the frame's average stats make it quite good even when in melee where it's riskier

[tawdry jungle]

so how the hell do you play XERCES

[fresh reef]

It isn't in the lcp, so the good ol' way

[hardy citrus]

i assume they meant build wise?

(i would also mention the Xerces is not in the compendium doc- tho it does have art, the Lord does not link to its remake doc, and the Aquilegia does not link to its draft)

[steep pebble]

Horus Dragon? Or HA Draco?

[hardy citrus]

/j .... what if.... Rat King 2

[covert surge]

its a striker lich instead

[indigo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-wizard-money-gang-shadow-wizard-gangster-wizard-purple-shadow-wizard-gif-10620405639290646666

[ornate verge]

That's a lich alt? Hell's bells.

[covert surge]

Self stun, condition messing

And its all System Saves, no tech attacks in sight

A buncha quick tech for use with allies

[ornate verge]

I dig it honestly

Don't see the lich get a lot of love in the 3rd party stuff

[covert surge]

I think people get snagged onto lich’s soul vessel too much when making alt

And the liscense is kinda eccentric

[ornate verge]

Aye. I do like the idea of fuckin around with swapping status and effects around and so on. Especially the whole " Oh hey you got a bunch of status effects on you DIE" .

[covert surge]

It also includes condition on you so

[ornate verge]

Hmmmm combo it with stuff that can force target and that could get messy. The Forget-me-not has the thought ripper which after it's primed makes it so that any tech attack against an ally in a certain range has to target you instead after the attacker fails a system save

[spring creek]

@cosmic steppe LICH ALT

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gzs-Cv0fsvjKcB5GczHwSytT8BoYVod-ekVAn-AZjss/edit?usp=sharing

my ass adding more frames while i still have a ton of other things to draw

[spring creek]

Just for flavor reasons I’d change the intangible to be more like the minotaur “removed from the battlefield” since intangible carries firmament connotations and volador as far as we’ve seen are blink focused

[covert surge]

oh yeah that is an effect

one of horus cb iirc lemme look up the wording

[open ginkgo]

I love the fact that this thing showed up before lich, and yet is an alt frame cause Lich is like that.

[covert surge]

i mean mk1 is the alt of mk2 gunghis

Wait just occured to me i need to put sth in so it doesnt own itself if some madman decide to use plasma gauntlet

dipping into manti for emp would also be pretty funny

stun a group of enemy and then just

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[cosmic steppe]

Pretty awesome! I love the conditions focused damage weapon and superposition. Seems demonstrably less fucked up than the lich too.

[covert surge]

Its basically proto lich

[indigo grail]

[ LICENSES ]
  IPS-N Caliban 2, IPS-N Blackbeard 1, HA FRUNDSBERG 2, HA BRUDENELL 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Titanomachy Mesh, Superior by Design
[ TALENTS ]
  Vanguard 3, Combined Arms 3, Grease Monkey 2, Executioner 2, Brawler 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:6 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:22 ARMOR:2
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:11 REPAIR:8
  TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+2
  SPD:3 EVA:8 EDEF:8 SENSE:3 SAVE:15
[ WEAPONS ]
  Integrated: HHS-075 “Flayer” Shotgun
  HEAVY MOUNT: Chicxulub Heavy Shock Gauntlet (Supermassive Mod)
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Synthetic Muscle Netting, "Iron Hand" Heat Shunt, Joint Mobility Recalibration, Blade Guard, Armament Redundancy```

so, I wanted to try and combine the shock gauntlet with the Caliban, and so far this was the idea I had, though in unsure if it works as well due to the Cannibal's inbuilt reload damage feature

[hardy citrus]

Oh my god lich alt with integrated weapon buddies ✨✨ /lh

[indigo gulch]

TF2 coconut.jpg ass coding

[hardy citrus]

That reminds me I need to put mine into a doc

[cerulean smelt]

that's a terrifying thought

[wraith birch]

Just wanna say, the Haliastur looks so sick and I want to play it.

[grand plank]

asking purely as a new gm, a player of mine is asking if i can allow terk mech, is it a good idea to allow my group to use terk mech in the wallflower module

[sweet marsh]

if you're a new gm who isn't super comfortable with allowing homebrew, then there's nothing wrong with saying that to a player. i think all of the terk mechs ive looked at are pretty well balanced? so as long as yo'ure not mixing homebrews, it should be fine balance-wise, but if you're still figuring out the system there's absolutely nothing wrong with limiting things to just core first

wallfloweris pretty long too (LL0-5), so you can also just revisit that at LL3 or so

[grand plank]

im thinking of allowing homebrew post wallflower

with of course, them getting checked out and thank you for the voice of confidence on terk mech

[sweet marsh]

its definitely pretty reasonable to want to keep things simple to start with. besides, even if you allow the terk stuff later, if it's not working for the table for w/e reason you can always just say that lol

[cosmic steppe]

Another thing to say about wallflower, is that it is generally pretty easy, so you may already be modifying some encounters if your players are decent at the game. I have disallowed Terk for my ongoing Wallflower game, but I allow it in 1 shots we do occasionally

Generally the terk stuff is pretty good and well balanced, but if a team is new to lancer I’d say stick with base game for a bit

You can always allow terk some way in if everyone get comfortable enough.

[shell quest]

Can someone Explain the Gorshkov to me? It seems appealing but I don't exactly see the niche

[spring creek]

you go hidden

[shell quest]

I do love the mines and spotter array is hilarious

[covert surge]

Easy time going hidden, likes off turn things like mines so it can go invis/hidden

Annoying giant zone of soft cover that enemy has to shoot through

Pretty much Infiltrator+Demolitionist the frame

Or you can take all support system and be a perma invis/hidden supporter with a mobile cloud of soft cover

[wraith birch]

Go invis/hidden, shank people with the core spike, free stun :)

[shell quest]

It seems to want to be close up, hmm...

[shell quest]

Mm.. gonna try to build a lil ll4-6 Gorshkov. But it seems hard to do. I might be too striker brained for this.

[wraith birch]

This is what I use for Veil. Note, this was created when Gorshkov was first released before there was really anybody making builds/guides. Therefore, it's far from optimised, and I have yet to playtest this, so take all of this with a grain of salt.

[ LICENSES ]
  IPS-N GORSHKOV 3, SSC Metalmark 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ TALENTS ]
  Infiltrator 3, Crack Shot 3, Walking Armory 2, Siege Specialist 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:2 AGI:2 SYS:2 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:13 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:8 REPAIR:5
  TECH ATK:+2 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:6 EVA:10 EDEF:12 SENSE:15 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
  MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Rail Rifle / GRENADE LAUNCHER // Overpower Caliber, Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Spotter Array, Armament Redundancy, Core Spike x3, Active Camouflage, Active Scanner, Sapper Kit x4```

[shell quest]

O hek, spotter array on Gorgon

Random thought lmao.

[tawdry jungle]

On that note, can someone explain Mordred?

Why would I ever use A Mort when I could just hut someone normally?

[wraith birch]

"Hit me, and I'll hit you back, harder."

[wraith birch]

A Mort forces a movement from Undeniable since it's a tech attack, which then plays with forced engagement with Mordred from Usurper, while at the same time also forces damage from the skirmish.

[tawdry jungle]

So it’s just a free extra attack from the over watch?

[vale horizon]

it lets you do controllery stuff while hitting them at the same time yeah

[sterile light]

and it lets you skirmish twice in the same turn - which is relevant for when you have a single cracked-up heavy mount with 6 billion buffs on it (/hyperbole) - without needing to overcharge

[indigo gulch]

Yknow, speaking of Mordred, A Mort only forces the enemy to attack, it is not auto hit right?

Does that mean tou could combo it with NOAH?

Move into melee, Overcharge to activate NOAH, Skirmish, A Mort.

The ultimate whiff punisher

[sterile light]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-entrapta-shera-and-the-princesses-of-power-no-nah-gif-18740149

[indigo gulch]

Ah so my idea not work

[sterile light]

what no i mean that it doesnt auto hit

they just have to attack

[tawdry jungle]

Then why not just barrage at that point?

[sterile light]

barrage doesn’t let you use a heavy mount twice

also, Skirmisher 2

[tawdry jungle]

Clarinet lets you swing twice with it during barrage

[sterile light]

it also reduces its damage to Main weapon levels :V

the point of a heavy is it hurts significantly more than a main
using the heavy two separate times = more damage thsn a heavy + a main - and clarent just does heavy + main when it barrages
(also, if you have effects that make you resistant to damage on your turn for exsmple, or that retaliate for attacks against you, you can get those off the attack)
(also also, if the target only has a Loading weapon you can get them to unload it on you instead of someone more fragile)

the advantages of it are kind of hidden behind combining it with stuff, yes- but they’re there

[tawdry jungle]

I see

I’ll experiment with it

[covert surge]

extremely funny tech is using Asura

tech action can be repeated using full tech, which doesn't count as either a skirmish or a barrage

meaininh with Asura you can AMort twice and then Barrage

this probably kills whatever it is you are trying to hit

sinces its like 3 attacks with a heavy mount and 1 with your other mount

[sterile light]

throw in an overcharge for even more funny

[covert surge]

its not meant to use the clarent its meant to use sth like the Kinhammer, taking from Arthur license the Full Chasis Reinforcement, Avalon and AEA

[tawdry jungle]

Can the forced movement closer to you from A Mort trigger overwatch?

now that i've been shown the sauce i'm starting to cook, and the numbers are looking pretty crazy

[covert surge]

no

its just a pull and obey the rules of invol movement

[shell quest]

Well.

If you, or an ally have spotter array from Gorshkov you can do some funny stuff with that forced movement.

But, more useful imo are Gorgon's Sentinel drones.

Especially with the core power they can dish out some extreme damage.

Add to that the possibility of grabbing Frundsberg Blade guard for bumping up your armour to pretty dumb levels.

[indigo gulch]

ah that's what you meant

[hushed field]

Hey there Gamma! :D

[pliant kestrel]

aw hell yeah, builds

[shell quest]

Hey, what would, potentially happen, if I applied kishka 1 whitewash to Gorshkov's Bong Cloud? Would it make me treat it as difficult terrain, or would I be free to hang around as a wandering diff terrain?

[shell quest]

I'm starting to warm up to Gorshkov and Kishka.

[shell quest]

And would I recieve the +1 diff to shooting at all times?

[shell quest]

[ LICENSES ]
  IPS-N GORSHKOV 3, IPS-N Kishka 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Reinforced Frame, Integrated Weapon
[ TALENTS ]
  Gunslinger 3, Infiltrator 3, Centimane 3
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:22 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+2
  SPD:5 EVA:8 EDEF:10 SENSE:15 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
  INTEGRATED WEAPON: EMBER Thermobaric Nexus
  MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Chaingun / EMBER Thermobaric Nexus
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Core Spike x4, Aerosolized Whitewash, Sapper Kit x5, Pattern-A Smoke Charges x5, Phoenix Flare x5```
My weird aah Gorsh build.

[shell quest]

Just bumping dis again.

I'm only not sure of the difficult terrain because the cover moves with the Gorshkov.

Also if I used the +1 diff to all attacks option, would Gorshkov's trait prevent that difficulty from activating against enemies in the same zone of Soft cover?

Or is that an intrinsic attacker side thing so it cannot be bypassed?

[covert surge]

you, too , would treat it as diff terrain

and it would also have +1 diff

note that you never actually generate the bong cloud

its always there you just tick up and down its burst value

so whitewash needs to use the QA until end of next round option

[spring creek]

Would that by chance function the same way for the hive drone?

The alternative is a movable zone of difficult terrain

[shell quest]

Aw, sad that it lasts shorter 😔 but it is a neat tool for trapping enemies when I am intending to bot move for any reason.

*not

[covert surge]

yes

the soft cover belongs to the drone not you

gotta get hecatoncheires for moving death hive drone shenaningan

[shell quest]

I meant to use whitewash more with the Smoke grenades for aux burn throwing so no big loss there

[covert surge]

hey gang

[raven socket]

agony

Interesting

[open ginkgo]

Interesting

[covert surge]

fun fact Kieu is vietnamese and is pronounced extremely similarly to KILL

[raven socket]

Excellent

[covert surge]

IPS-N KILL

we are going mask off

[hardy citrus]

Oh, fucked up and evil /lh

[ornate verge]

Ok random question. Got a player who is wanting to play a Togo but they're wondering if you play it like a more aggressive and chop happy enkidu

[covert surge]

it is frigteningly fast if Gun the Engine keeps triggering

because Gun the Engine has no 1/turn or 1/round, it just keeps happening if you keep etering DZ

so you do play it with great aggression, tho much less zone control than an Enki

closer to what id say like a sehkmet beard

[shell quest]

Mmm... Geryon's Fusion lance works rather well on Arthur.

[ornate verge]

So basically a balls to the walls version of sekmet beard

[cosmic steppe]

The true th2 tomohawk user rather than the painted lady

[spring creek]

Can you put Flash Anchor on a Suiliman, then pick up the Suiliman and run around with a bigass shield

[covert surge]

Yes, its pretty much the same as letting someone with flash anchor rides on a mule harness

[spring creek]

wait sorry I meant hardlight shield and enclave pattern support, the ones that immobilize you

Okay better question - if you're slowed, does that prevent "moving with the other player" for the effects of carrying handle? The simple way to do that would be to make it involuntary movement, but then you run into the lancaster backpack, which had to add an "if you're immobilized you fall off"

[cosmic steppe]

Basically we're trying to figure out if a a Suleimon can be picked up, then use hardlight defence system. Mule Harness has a specific clause to make you fall if you become immobalized, but carrying handle does not

[spring creek]

Follow up, does a held Suiliman follow a teleporting mourning cloak

[covert surge]

I forgot abt all the other clause so just treat it exactly like inverted mule harness

Until i can add them back in

[lofty nexus]

When will the next update to the lcp come? I can't wait to have one of my players pick Togo

[covert surge]

the next update is subutai

[raven socket]

Which is coming in the next few days

[lofty nexus]

Oh

And when will it be Togo's turn?

Because it's one of my favourite ones

[covert surge]

after subutai is morgan and then togo

[lofty nexus]

Ok, thank you

I can now wait in peace for my overheaty boi

[queen jasper]

melee pegasus

[covert surge]

It was a melee lich

[queen jasper]

even better

[queen jasper]

I too dream about the Togo

[pliant kestrel]

Melee Lich is hilarious

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gzs-Cv0fsvjKcB5GczHwSytT8BoYVod-ekVAn-AZjss/edit?usp=sharing

[hardy citrus]

hey, just bumping this, dont know if its intentional or not!

• Xerces, Wraith and Hamidou arent in the WIP section of the compendium doc (tho the last 2 also dont have art)
• Lord does not link to its rework WIP, nor does Aquilegia link to its WIP doc

[spring creek]

heavy charge blade lich is the single most fun I've had playing lancer

[covert surge]

the alts aren't in there

[pliant kestrel]

That's metal as fuck

[hardy citrus]

ah, guess i assumed they would be cause Mordred is but, you know, guess it is also an alt of something you made, haha

i keep thinking about like,,,, An alt for Togo thats a a collection of house modifications you can do to a togo to make it a "functioning" mech

like people making custom motorbikes and shit, and chop shop style stuff

also what/who is Togo named after?

[covert surge]

Tōgō Heihachirō

of Russo Japanese War fame

[raven socket]

My Brudenell build is salivating at the thought of the thermoregulator :P

[covert surge]

dont worry that was like 40 years before ww2, dude died like 5 years before ww2 and afaik didn't have anything to do with the imperial japan atrocs

[vale horizon]

the reincarnation of Nelson indeed

[tough trellis]

What talents would people recommend for a Painted Lady build that utilises (may not include all this stuff, it's just an idea): Blackjack Cabled Dagger, IFF Spoof, Rail Accelerator, TH2 Tomahawk, Bristlecrown Flechette Launcher, Reinforced Cabling, Multi-Gear Maneuver System, Assassin Drone, Puppetmaster

[crude ravine]

Hunter's a gimme for the tomahawk I reckon

[digital torrent]

Trying searching for it, but couldn't find it. For Full-Chassis Reinforcement, can you get more than one a round? So Enemy 1 attacks you, you brace and pick Patience. Then on Enemy 2's turn, they attack, and you brace again, and choose Audacity. And both keep until start of your next turn?

[covert surge]

yes

this however is predicated on you receiving just ungodly ammount of firepower so you are gonna need all the power that multiple braces gets you

if you braced, chose patience, and then the enemy just don't attack you any further because you have +1 Diff from native brace and them knowing you have FCR and just used Patience, it is kinda wasted

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wrFRM7IecRKNF-Dn9NcHqpr7uaKWBPcvGCrxeKqC7HM/edit?usp=sharing

[winter temple]

Impact Lance Toku with this

[vale horizon]

aha makes sense

[covert surge]

Hunter 2 cast a long shadow over anyone trying to make a throw frame

[vale horizon]

the terror inflicted by the exclusion of you may

[raven socket]

Literally all they had to do was include those two words, yes

[covert surge]

✨consent✨

[harsh rampart]

Somebody should make one of those consent meme about leaving a thrown weapon on the ground

Kieu: I consent
Knife: I consent
Hunter 2: I don't
Is there someone you forgot to ask?

[hardy citrus]

Terk.
This is a batman mech.
/Pos

[pliant kestrel]

my god

[pliant kestrel]

-- SSC Phasma @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  SSC Phasma 3, IPS-N Vlad 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Superheavy Mounting, Titanomachy Mesh
[ TALENTS ]
  Executioner 3, Duelist 3, Pankrati 2, Brawler 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:23 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:8 REPAIR:5
  TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:6 EVA:10 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
  SUPERHEAVY MOUNT: Combat Drill
  FLEX MOUNT: Phase Tear
  MAIN MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Articulation Sync, Interjection Weave x4, Phase Charges x4, Personalizations

You know I had to do it to em

[cosmic steppe]

Typo: Rat King schrodinger targetting says 1/turn and 1/round on compcon

[covert surge]

The fa swap and the reaction swap are different things on separate cd

[cosmic steppe]

oh im dumb!

Also holy fuck the kieu systems looks awesome

I really really want to give it tomohawks

or guillotine

holy shit this is aweoms

[covert surge]

Yeah ive been running a knife and sword Cool build in CP2077 :p

[vivid lynx]

LMAO

[covert surge]

Rotating Kieu visual design in my head and wait a minute this is Kullervo

Scifi knife that store knife by having it stick out of em :P

[lament geode]

Heya, got a quick question about Heruka's Dual Fist system.
(Following the topic of thrown weapons, too)
IIRC thrown melee attacks are kind of handled like ranged attacks (affected by cover) but still count as melee.
Dual Fist states it triggers on melee attack crits, regardless of threat.
Is it intended to be triggered by thrown attacks?

[covert surge]

Yes but also tbh you probably shouldnt be using heruka in any campaign you are intending to start rn

Its going to be heavily reworked in the future and dual fist is getting replaced entirely

[lament geode]

Darn

[covert surge]

Its one of my earliest frame and there are uh teething problems with the balancing

[lament geode]

Made a funny build using an MOI Amakusa with a heavy lean into improvised attacks in case of bad situations/weapons unloaded.

[covert surge]

2d6+2 kin damage on a crit for absolutely no investment or cost is absolutely bonkers lmao

[lament geode]

But I understand, it did seem very strong, all things considered (especially paired with other homebrew talent that benefit imp.atk)

I will make note of this, thanks

[covert surge]

Heres the current WIP for heruka changes and dual fist replacement

[lament geode]

Interesting..

Now that i think of it, dual fist's effect could be made into a talent that's incompatible with brawler. Just thinking out loud, if i get into homebrewing I might make that

[covert surge]

kinda close to Titanfall hmm

[spring creek]

You’re allowed one

[covert surge]

as a treat

[worthy steeple]

i mean
that was the main inspiuration for Lancer

[ornate verge]

Oh I am liking this

[covert surge]

Just throwing this in here temporarily so i can have my hand holding knife reference when i get back to laptop

uwu

[covert surge]

scrimblo

[orchid fox]

brimsclo

[covert surge]

coloring

[ornate verge]

Oh I absolutely love this

......god dammit lol. That being said I have to ask why black and yellow highlights.

[covert surge]

because its cool

[ornate verge]

Valid response

[covert surge]

also because BARGHEST

[raven socket]

Knoife

[covert surge]

so many

[raven socket]

For days and days

[regal sleet]

A Tracker Blade embedded in an enemy can be retrieved as though it's dropped on the ground, right? An enemy willing to just tank the accuracy and ignore the chance to make the check can't just keep your knife and run off?

Also, for on-hit effects for thrown weapons, (Like Tracker Blade) would Leverage apply the effects to both the primary and secondary target?

[covert surge]

added a clarification for yoinking the blade out of the enemy

for Leverage, you choose if it either embed on the first character and forgo the second attack, or it hit the first character, bounce off and then embed in the second target

thats for Tracker specifically, else it applies on hit to both target as usual

[open ginkgo]

Oh this thing fricks

[regal sleet]

Immeasureably, yeah, vibes all the way down

[covert surge]

Someone pointed out to me Yet Kieu is pronounced very similar to Yeet Kill

Extremely apropriate

[sterile light]

YEET

[covert crescent]

I know this is mostly themed around throwing knives but I can now live out my dream of playing as "Throwing Axe Man" in Lancer

Yes, it's a very specific dream, shuddup

[spring creek]

@covert surge If a napoleon has a carrying handle and uses its core power, can it still be picked up?

[rigid chasm]

With that color scheme you know someone’s going to make a helldivers version, right?

[spring creek]

Feedback - dont EVER use backpack napoleon. This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen

[sweet marsh]

that took less than 3 hours to go downhill, i see

[spring creek]

This combat, I put the vip in the nap and then went shield mode, but then all the specters keep dragging me away and we all just want to go to bed but its actually a really plot important combat

we just wanted to voltron lmao

it was a glorious dream

[raven socket]

Decided to try my hand at making a homebrew frame of my own, on the side

striker/defender that's fragile but gains resistance to damage types that hit it until the start of its next turn, and as a core active gains immunity instead

[spring creek]

I think the most useful feedback we can give from last playtest session - you probably don’t need to care whether you put shield tags on gear unless you plan on making a mech that can use it worth a damn

[spring creek]

No but like

It’s terrible

The core power lets you be invincible. Which is great, but then you just get suplexed by a specter into a corner, prone and grappled

I apologize to any napoleon mains in the chat

[covert surge]

im pretty sure carrying handle only let ally pick you up, unless you mean you are getting grappled by specters

[spring creek]

Yeah grappled. It really had nothing to do with the carrying handle, that was just the mechanism by which voltron was conceptualized. 3 mechs in a trench coat, brought low by ram and grapple

See, the thing with most shield systems is that they use reactions, and you can’t use reactions when you’re grappled. So the best thing to do to an invincible shield boy is to give it a hug

[covert surge]

gotta get that smn as a small shield boi so you can get out of those binds :P

[wraith birch]

I just realized, but is the frame low key dabbing?

[covert surge]

Death

[crude ravine]

simply take brawler three and do things the old fashioned way

[wraith birch]

I'm taking that as a yes.

[covert surge]

hey gang

[indigo gulch]

Sup

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16Iz70uOo-oCsGW8PaDKd0DDfuE42zzMXnmmisLCUXvU/edit?usp=sharing

i am once again putting too much time and effort into what was a one-off joke

[indigo gulch]

Oooo

[late comet]

Legit thought this was a meme frame, but butterflies never fail to have the dumbest best names possible

[covert surge]

Grapeleaf Skeletonizer

Is a moth!

[late comet]

is there a word for "butterflies, moths, and other insects that are basically the same?" Feels like there should be one

lepidoptera is the scientific term, but it's a bit of a mouthful

[open ginkgo]

Never stop cooking ty

[mellow latch]

Does Mech and Tech include npcs at all?

[covert surge]

nope

also, the more serious version of SKELETONIZER with a different name

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oLpp2tcxJXP9nMkfpdVImDHUAHqSgF7efB7Ug7jrVqc/edit?usp=sharing

[shut patrol]

Skeletonize me, captain!

[open ginkgo]

SKELETONIZER sounds like the name given to it by the development team, and Apollo the name by the Marketing people

[covert surge]

thats the lore, the project is codenamed SKELETONIZER

[open ginkgo]

...wow I am proving I am a TCG player. missed that

[ember kelp]

Read "HA" for "unknown source"

[covert surge]

we dont know where this came from uwu

[harsh rampart]

Definitely not Stolen NHP tech, SSC would never do something that unethical just to get an advantage in the competition

[hardy citrus]

LITERALLY

[hardy citrus]

If I had a nickel for every time there was a minor similarity between something I was making and something Terk makes, id have nickels

I also have an SSC apollo alt, tho it's very different

Also 👀👀👀 this guy looks so fun

Its genuinely SO INTERESTING to see how different people interpret stuff tied to different mythos gods

[covert surge]

Technically

I made it as an interpretation of SKELETONIZER

The Apollo name only came later so its less of a meme

[hardy citrus]

I mean,,, FAIR

My current idea for an Apollo is toying w Emperor

[vivid lynx]

have you considered doing any timelapses/have done any? just seeing your drawing process in screenshots was interesting, at least to me

[wraith birch]

Spooky scary skeletons. 👀

[covert surge]

Nah not a timelapse person

Makes you overthink the process because at the back your mind you are aware that you are in a way performing to an audience

[vivid lynx]

Fair enough

[steep pebble]

Please don't remind me that I still have to farm him and enough Uyemag.

[tardy zephyr]

Playing a Frundsberg in a Dustgrave run. First map a Berserker runs up, I critical hit pike it and shove it back. It assault charges and crits -me-, shredding me. I take the very next turn and hit it with my Tempest Charged Blade

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/872634182105432145/1232048634472693770/image.png?ex=66280a34&is=6626b8b4&hm=2374cad23f1c401d82a17692ff750ced927a2aec900ac1ca5a7ea8d3fbe1e1ee&

The melee exchange escalated very quickly

[vale horizon]

gotta respect the chutzpah on that berserker if nothing else. takes a lot of gumption to look at a frundsberg and be like

you know what? i am gonna just run up and hit that fucker.

[tardy zephyr]

It was, indeed, an honorable duel, befitting a knight

[rigid chasm]

I mean, beserker

[ornate verge]

I'm sorry but that image played out in my head and all I hear is Forces playing at full volume in my head.

[tardy zephyr]

acceptable, I'd also accept Black Escaflowne

[covert surge]

Apollo visual reference

[harsh rampart]

The middle finger is extremely necessary

[covert surge]

mordred slaying arthur core

[harsh rampart]

Why does that go so hard

[covert surge]

just pull yourself up the spear to get into striking distance

thats an index finger

[covert surge]

must fight the urge to put a cloth/loin cloth on every humaoid mech

legs and the groin area are hard to desin

[spring creek]

gotta do skeleton toes

heh, skeletoes

[covert surge]

i refuse

mfer grabbing the swarm hive nexus like a lightning bolt

[pliant kestrel]

This is gnarly

[spring creek]

Looks almost rkf with the filigree, love it

[covert surge]

that halo thing is going to be the death of me

[pliant kestrel]

you gotta commit now

[cosmic steppe]

fucking dope as fuck

[summer swallow]

Skelelon

[indigo gulch]

@covert surge I hate to do this do you, but this elbow on the Apollo looks like a smug face

deadass

I can no longer not see it as a face

[wraith birch]

Pfft.

[light yew]

Looking at Arthur and I am wondering what other licenses would be good for it? Thinking of using executioner talent aswell because I like hitting things with big sword

[shell quest]

Edge of tomorrow is not actually "forced" melee. You can edge any Superheavy ranged as a quick action and have time for more attacks or support actions, or fire any non-loading heavy twice in a turn! or fire the cannibal twice, which is less useful but also very fun.

[light yew]

I see, at this point in time my team has someone using a fusion rifle with 10+ range and I was thinking of filling in the gap of being in close quarters

[shell quest]

Heavy CQB arthur us anither option, but there are less heavy CQB's than I'd have liked tbh

[cunning trellis]

small X-post from #rules-questions:
so im using the Ember Thermobaric nexus on the Main/Aux mounts for the Comet, and one of the Comet's frame traits is that all nexus weapons get reliable 1/2/3 based on aux/main/heavy. In that case, if I miss an attack on a target in soft cover triggering the 2 burn instead of one explosive, would that deal one explosive or one burn?
pics related stuff from comp/con

[tardy zephyr]

One burn. Reliable inherits the damage type you would deal if you hit, I'd say.

Unless "base" damage type means explosive here, but I couldn't say, there.

Now that I look in the other room though, that does seem to be more a question of intent (or GM ruling) so.

[covert surge]

RAW would be burn reliable, yes, but tbh this is sth unforseeable as it is cross supplement balancing

so it would be left to GM discretion

[empty shard]

has the apollo been added to the lcp yet? seems neato!

[covert surge]

Executioner works great as a talent for just swinging more heavy and fishing for exe 2. Blackbeard works great, Nanocarb likes being swung alot, and Sehkmet let you break the action econ even more for melee weapons

Frundsberg have the zwei which is really funny

Nelson has Thermal Charge which you can proc several time in one turn as Arthur (up to 4 charges in one turn if using Clarent)

apollo not in lcp yet

[shell quest]

But do note that Sekhmet will not Edge of tomorrow and will not allow you to bolster for the movement.

[covert surge]

you do Edge the turn before activating sekhmet

[indigo grail]

it'll rattle em

[indigo grail]

Holy heck, I just found a reddit post of the Goldstreak, and dear goodness

https://www.reddit.com/r/LancerRPG/comments/162vn97/ssc_goldstreak_that_which_is_broken_can_be_remade/

Midas hands are cool as shit!?

[digital torrent]

Took Napoleon for Paracausal mod, and just enjoy attacking 5 times a turn with Clarent for irreducible damage

[covert surge]

thats salad

[digital torrent]

Granted, the overkill might stress you, but stress is a resource

[light yew]

How does one manage 5? I think if you have edge. Edge barrage then skirmish backswing (intentional miss to retarget original) and overcharge?

[digital torrent]

Yeah, Edge with Barrage, Skirmish, OC Skirmish, backswing somewhere in there

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eCfrWd06O6mhQ7LezqGIlCdAF1IpDsvN1_ZBhT0jAc8/edit?usp=sharing

current ver

[indigo gulch]

oh hey I love Gangplank League Of Legends.

[covert surge]

your honor

death.

old art 😭

[open ginkgo]

Still freaking great art, and reminds me more of that one pirate from beer stuff

[raven socket]

Almost typed line 190 instead of line 10

Casually hit them from a few game boards away

[covert surge]

Almost as long as a tokugawa range

[covert surge]

You mean the captain morgan rum lmao

[raven socket]

Doing the last system now and then it's onto QC

God I'm so tempted to just go through all the licences and fix their capitalisation

Might break builds thooo

(in regards to the mech names)

Now to figure out what the heck to align the preview to the on the subutai

https://i.imgur.com/y0S88iA.png
this'll do

[rigid chasm]

glad i'm not the only one who arty tokugawa has occured to

[covert surge]

Tbh arty tokugawa is more popular than melee despite the liscense saying striker

All the aoe are in ranged weapons and being 30 spaces away is a good layer of defense while exposed

[rigid chasm]

fair

[raven socket]

Passed to Terk for review 🙏

[wraith birch]

Woo!

[rigid chasm]

Is it time to start refreshing the page obsessively ?

I think so

[light yew]

I think for the Arthur mech, I’ll go 3 Saladin for paracausal and defensive systems like Noah and flash anchor with paracausal too

[indigo gulch]

Saladin + Arthur deadass is a Paladin build.

Ya got Paracausal smiting and holy Noah shields

[light yew]

Indeed

Unsurprisingly I quite liked Paladin in dnd

[indigo gulch]

hey Terk I was looking over the Jaywalker shotgun, why does it specify it ignores ranged penalties for Engaged? It already has Threat to deal with that issue.

[covert surge]

Its a gun

Gun w threat are still affected by engagement pen

[indigo gulch]

huh

didn't realize thaty

my bad

[digital torrent]

I went a bit more support-y on my Arthur (warning other 3pp stuff in use)

[ LICENSES ]
  HA ARTHUR 3, HA Saladin 3, DOWNFALL WRATH 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Heatfall Coolant System, Universal Compatibility
[ TALENTS ]
  Executioner 3, Ubuntu 3, Field Analyst 2, Bruiser 1, Scrounger 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:6 AGI:0 SYS:2 ENGI:1
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:24 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:9 REPAIR:7
  TECH ATK:+2 LIMITED:+0
  SPD:3 EVA:8 EDEF:10 SENSE:10 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
  Integrated: X-Caliber Plasmacore
  FLEX MOUNT: Charged Blade
  HEAVY MOUNT: Clarent (Paracausal Mod)
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Full-Chassis Reinforcement, CHESS System, Ultracharger```

[covert surge]

@here The Subutai is now released to the supplement! Master of all movement and maker of way.
https://bluenexa.itch.io/terk-mech-and-tech

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IltcIAGMBNBePR9NEgOoCwrDS3HqcdbmiM7LIzqm1hg/edit?usp=sharing

[digital torrent]

If the subutai makes a move with emissary for sitreps that involve moving objects, does that count as starting your standard movement?

[covert surge]

like escort?

When a character starts their turn adjacent to the Objective, it moves with them when they make their standard move

so its pretty explicitly mirroring your standard move

[digital torrent]

I think that one's a little clearer it doesn't because emissary gives a player an off turn move

So you aren't starting your turn

I guess I was more thinking of (Dustgrave spoilers)

[rigid chasm]

well then i'd say the 1/round balances it

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eCfrWd06O6mhQ7LezqGIlCdAF1IpDsvN1_ZBhT0jAc8/edit?usp=sharing

now with lore

[shadow smelt]

House Guard Subutai using paracausal magic to move their distant ally a charged near-light rail sounds like a very silly and fun way to try and mitigate terrain...

[cerulean smelt]

Fuuuuck the Midas Hands idea for Goldstreak is actually so fire

[covert surge]

hey gang

[indigo gulch]

yo

[covert surge]

had a brain blast and thought of a way to resurrect the Zhukov concept and actually make it work while keeping the core theme

[indigo gulch]

looks at Displacer

hoo boi

[covert surge]

yes this is a mech built for displacer

because Napoleon was not up to the task

but hey its all the way up in ll3 so its an investment if you want to get the holy displacer build of gettig off one shot per scene

[ornate verge]

https://tenor.com/view/invader-zim-i-have-a-might-need-gif-6807609799778288713

[covert surge]

power word: Kill

[pliant kestrel]

Get they ass

[ornate verge]

HELL'S FUCKIN BELLS

[covert surge]

Daisy Cutter 2: fuck this one guy in particular

[spring creek]

Maybe put a bunch of heat on that, I’m looking at um um beam diffuser

[covert surge]

it doesnt actually deal energy damage in its base profile so no beam

[spring creek]

Behold my cone of structure

[covert surge]

[spring creek]

Oh thank god

[covert surge]

20 steps ahead

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i49uPhMZogPG2vnuEUoWnjgka5LCWfvJVvjnszbkSBU/edit?usp=sharing

[delicate lichen]

oh this fucks really hard actually

[covert surge]

Guys the gun is glowing with temperature of the sun what do i do???
Think tank: drop it on the ground you idiot.

[delicate lichen]

i respect HA's commitment to spending billions on R&D to come up with brilliant solutions like "just drop the displacer idiot" or "just hack them harder idiot"

[shell quest]

This is so cool thoooo

I yearn

There is a real vibe to casually dropping the gun you just shot someone with and I am now struck by intense need to make a mobster pilot for it.

[mild prairie]

reminds me of that one scene from the Astartes short film where he overcharges his pistol and fires it at the psycher just to immideatly drop it and continue in full sprint

[covert surge]

We stan Paracausal Aperture Science the Think Tank in this supplement

[mild prairie]

HA: This mech is too heavy to be fast. How to make it faster
TT: more boosters, lol

[delicate lichen]

love the ontologic incisor btw

but then i love anything that does direct structure damage

[covert surge]

Power Word Kill Cannon

[cosmic steppe]

holy shit a lot of that liscence looks powerful

dope as fuck

[tawdry jungle]

So can someone help me out here, what is the point of this frame exactly?

[covert surge]

bypass very high heat cost weapons/loading/limited by throwing the weapon away and switching to a back up

[sweet marsh]

spool dice -> "1d3 starting at 3". it's interesting that the integrated ones are worse (aux), worse (main), better (heavy) compared against non-integrated versions

worse pistol, worse tactical melee weapon, better DSAS?

[covert surge]

heavy are still pretty worse, we just dont have a basic bitch heavy cqb to measure against

[sweet marsh]

nevermind, wait, heavy

yeah

[covert surge]

dsas is a main

[vale horizon]

lol i love the ishtar-class nhp

get the fuck IN there

[hardy citrus]

what does it mean by "corrosponding" mount? are we talking compatable any slot, we talking slot 1 to weapon 1, slot 2 to weapon 2?

[tardy zephyr]

the aux (presumably x2) go in the flex, the main goes in the main, the heavy in the heavy I would assume

[cerulean smelt]

ZHUKOV HAS A NEUTRON STAR IN ITS FIST?!

[hardy citrus]

this may need to be better communicated then, right now its not FULLY communicated

i do love the concept tho

[indigo grail]

PILE BUNKER MOD

MY GOD

[tawdry jungle]

ok someone teach me

how the hell do I build Dagon

[covert surge]

you put the back up in the mount just as you would a normal weapon

[covert surge]

Zhukov vs Gilgamesh on who can diassemble their own mech the fastest :P

[covert surge]

The morning cloak has a blackhole we are way past that point :P

[cerulean smelt]

idkman blackholes aren't as funny

[sterile light]

nucav moment

[covert surge]

doesnt work, is a mod so its has to be installed before nucav takes effect :3

[sterile light]

ah

fucked up

oh that messes with Toku doesnt it

[covert surge]

Toku is too stronk get anything nice uwu

[covert surge]

zhukov art update

i believe in wedge as the superior geometric shape

[mild prairie]

makes headbutts hurt more, it's like having one additional blade

[covert surge]

now with little legionaire shock troops

drawing little guys in perspective 😡

why do I keep doing this to myself

this was old Zhukov for comparision, literally my first piece of Lancer-related work

[hushed field]

I love the giant rifle on both of them.

[covert surge]

Apocalypse Burst Lance

[leaden crater]

a lance? in my lancer?

[covert surge]

more likely than you think

[fresh reef]

~~ A Mech-scale bayonet ? What do you think this is, space WW1 ?~~

[full nimbus]

Don't give harrison ideas- they'll start adding trench shovels to armory mechs to prove a point

[covert surge]

i mean

[harsh rampart]

Lol. Lmao, even (frame by @sand vapor )

[covert surge]

drake just walked out of a ww1 trench

[full nimbus]

I do rember this

I will always love it

[harsh rampart]

It's great, yeah

[full nimbus]

Nah drake looks more like a WW2 frame to me- walked clean out

[covert surge]

Also the frame has a trait called Bayonet Charge that rewards boosting right into an enemy face with guns or sword

[mild prairie]

stance gives jojo pose vibes xD

[covert surge]

your honnor, death.

[indigo gulch]

honestly, that pose gives ultrakill vibes

https://r4.wallpaperflare.com/wallpaper/981/954/357/ultrakill-red-background-v1-ultrakill-weapon-hd-wallpaper-e940188df13a0d7ba627681f0041a60d.jpg

[covert surge]

yeah more ultrakill inspired

just ultra twisting mid-action poses

might be fun to add some wing-esque elemt to make it more ultrakill

[hybrid ledge]

damn, I was expecting the mech with endless backups to look like a big printer with guns and legs

[covert surge]

we already got walking fridge with the Subutai

[hybrid ledge]

that's fair

[covert surge]

its an Alpha Striker/Shock troop mech

im going to ultrakill you

[orchid fox]

i know its just because you havent got around to drawing it but the look of the zhukov missing that other arm goes hard IMO

[covert surge]

its not a gilamesh :3

[orchid fox]

"i may be lacking a limb but that doenst matter because i still have GUN"

[hushed field]

I'm reminded of a particular BattleMech - The Hollander - but that's only because it has a massive gun, and the Zhukov is definitely dynamic. I'm not sure why the name-role combo though. Maybe I'm just too used to giving frames meaningful names.

[covert surge]

im trying my hardest to drive the Zhukov around the Gilgamesh because they are in vaguely similar vibe of popping off your own parts

[indigo gulch]

good ol hollander

[sand vapor]

Look you know what interrupts spellcasting? Shovel to the head!

[full nimbus]

No no, he’s got a point

[covert surge]

Im a big fan of not having to stick to what the name is for the frame function

because you know Alexander the Great and the Macedonian Minefield

and I like Soviet history and Zhukov is pretty uncontroversial compared to the Big Joe himself

[hushed field]

Very valid.

And another for Jenny and the wimp?

Dr. Mokha: Aloha-Class Big Sal ↩️

[Reply to:](#1150099146620018708 message) Look you know what interrupts spellcasting? Shovel to the head!

[raven socket]

👢 👨

/ref

[covert surge]

Stalin was not his real name and its literally just Steel lmao

[mild prairie]

humanoid mech but with one arm that's just gun is peak design

https://tenor.com/view/love-you-gif-26371263

[lofty nexus]

However there is something about the most inhuman monstrosity that crawled out straight out of a crazy guy's nightmares

[mild prairie]

Well, that's H0rus for your
(I will get lynched for that but I just really dislike the overall Battletech aesthetic, most of them just look like turrets on legs and even if the have arms, they don't really do anything)

[lofty nexus]

I wait for the mech-ophanim

It will be truly a day not to be afraid

And a day to would

[mild prairie]

on that note

https://preview.redd.it/v1-vs-v2-mech-battle-part-1-v0-fu923sibjmec1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=aeebaab39c63eefde41b6d1fc0bfb208657f62bc

https://preview.redd.it/v1-vs-v2-mech-battle-part-2-v0-autm1m2mtshc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=ad7b0b4f1f7a949204d0431bc1db9e2a7de5d99d

[indigo gulch]

the pistol's barrel angling looks a bit off compared to the rest of the pistol, but I like the design

[covert surge]

days when I wish i had 3d skills so i can just do a mock up and trace over for the perspective

[mild prairie]

curve your shots, yo

[indigo gulch]

i do like that the pistol is visibly a goddamn displacer lol

[covert surge]

displacer obrez

[indigo gulch]

thanks I hate it

[open ginkgo]

...The Hell is that thing?

[hushed field]

That used to be a Mosin-Nagant rifle.

[open ginkgo]

That looks like a Bolt-Action Pistol...

[covert surge]

mosin nagant

cut down into pistol size

[hushed field]

It was then chopped down, yeah.

[open ginkgo]

I thought so

[covert surge]

for when you need to obliterate your enemy and your wrist in close quarter

practically a flamethrower

[mild prairie]

Hunt Showdown moment

[hushed field]

..Hey Terk, thanks for giving me a terrible mod idea.

Well, Core Bonus idea.

[covert surge]

Im going to hide the wonky displacer orbrez under flame and smoke to sell the idea of throwing away overheating weapons

And also to cheat

😎

Following in the footstep of my hero Mike Mignola and just hide shit i dont wanna draw too hard

[mild prairie]

I am reading the Subutai right now and effects that grant weapons the Seeking effect are always so funny to me because it makes me imagine a bunch of bullets from an Assault Rifle just zip around a corner. Nanocomp at least has the excuse of actually firing nanites that are just bullet shaped xD

[covert surge]

harrison armory technology, superior by design

[mild prairie]

Also the NL Rail is hillarious

There are so many third party authors that include one way or another to just yeet people and I'm all here for it

[covert surge]

the primal urge to throw your friends

[mild prairie]

When the pilot dismounts
This bitch empty
Y E E T

getting your Blackbeard buddy into the thick of the fight asap is so useful though

[hardy citrus]

@covert surge would this be a correct analysis btw?

[covert surge]

it goes into the mount just as if you would mount a weapon, so for flex you get to choose if you mount 2 back up aux or 1 back up main

if you only eject one aux then it can only be replaced with an aux etc

[open ginkgo]

That's fucking dope as hell just one weird question- why purple?

[pliant kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-purple-what-if-it-was-karlrove-pencil-gif-13697978

[covert surge]

the original was also purple

so it do be the same

as to why the original was purple, i dont remember lol, might just not be a reason and I just picked a color out of a magical hat

[open ginkgo]

alright, was just curious- ty

[regal sleet]

So conceivably with the Zhukov you can start to Charge Spool, then Brace and tank your upcoming turn's action economy to delay firing the Apocalypse Burst Lance, yeah?

I don't know necessarily how often that'd actaully come up in practice but it's an entertaining interaction given the "must use your next available action" bit

[covert surge]

Yes

[cerulean smelt]

The purple is the icing on the cake I think this is one of my favorite designs that you've made

[shell quest]

Imagine being the poor legionnaire getting an overheated Displacer dropped next to you and you near instantly evaporate.

[indigo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/peachvitty-gif-24343442

[raven socket]

Mhmm, I looove the purple

[cerulean smelt]

Every Harrison Armoury mech but it's purple

[covert surge]

Worry not the amory legionnaire also has a high heatcap despite being biological

[cerulean smelt]

Aka not being born in Summer

[raven socket]

because that joke never gets old, right?

[cerulean smelt]

I retract my previous statement

[raven socket]

danke

Sorry, just
Few too many millions of times :P

[cerulean smelt]

Nah that's fair, enough's enough

[wraith birch]

I fucking love that pose of dropping pistol to pull a knife so much.

[cerulean smelt]

-- HA ZHUKOV @ LL6 -- [ LICENSES ] HA ZHUKOV 3, SSC GLADIATOR 3 [ CORE BONUSES ] Superior By Design, SSC Flight Suite [ TALENTS ] Vanguard 2, Executioner 3, Nuclear Cavalier 2, Duelist 1 [ STATS ] Idfk I just live here [ WEAPONS ] Integrated: Apocalypse Burst Lance FLEX MOUNT: Centauri-Pattern Phase Nexus MAIN MOUNT: Neutron Gauntlet HEAVY MOUNT: Hasta Pura [ SYSTEMS ] Total Warfare, Sidewinder, ISHTAR-Class NHP, Commodus Driver

Fuck it, bruteforced a build

Wanted a gunlance build, got a gunlance build

[covert surge]

🤔 should back up weapons work after throwing weapons 🤔

[cerulean smelt]

Would that be too broken?

[covert surge]

Real roman gameplay, throw pilum before pulling out a sword

[cerulean smelt]

Cause technically the weapon is still in the mount?

Hunter talent back at it again

[wraith birch]

Switching to your knife is faster than reloading. YEET.

[mild prairie]

Throwing your pistol at the enemy so that it explodes and summoning a new one from thin air is faster than reloading, Tediore moment

[fresh reef]

Put explosives in your pistols so you can throw it, get another one, and snipe the old one so that it detonates near the enemy

[cerulean smelt]

Thermal charge Zhukov oh no

[ornate verge]

You get out of my brain. Cause I had a thought. Toku, Zhukov, Napoleon, and Nelson. Dear god my brain is just wtf some days lol

[cerulean smelt]

Rent freeeee

[hardy citrus]

Now of course, you should never balance for cross homebrew

However

A Zhukov combined with stuff from Waffenfabrik Zalewski Black Ambassador

[hardy citrus]

All of the systems you get from Black Ambassador gives you a benefit when destroyed

One of the weapons can be used even when it doesn't have charges, and the other one can replace itself with other weapons(+systems) you have access to with your liscences and such

So
Blow yourself up and lose your systems, burn through limited till its near empty and let your weapons be destroyed, swap weapons, and replace your weapons w back ups

[covert surge]

Reaper Overwatch time

[hardy citrus]

Also these visibly would make a cool combo

[worthy steeple]

omg
yes

Im also considering a mech that swings melee weapons so hard it breaks them

[hybrid ledge]

That also exists

I think it's Acastus? Can't remember which that one is from

[covert surge]

intercorp

[worthy steeple]

fuk
i thought so

ooh
a mech that fabs disposable weapons
like 1 shot ROGS

ROGs

[ornate verge]

Oh jeez black ambassador Zhukov and the acastus would be a bonkers combo

[covert surge]

Lancer's quartermaster crying tears of blood getting the bill for the Black Ambassador Zhukov Acastus Gilgamesh combo

"what do you mean you went through 6 guns in one deployment???"

this fandom really likes throwing weapons away huh

we got four seperate and unique takes on "lol just break and throw your weapons away" mech

I literally just listed them

[worthy steeple]

also the black ambasador is literally a massive set of printers on a mech, so...

[worthy steeple]

as in how do they all work
i wanna make number 5

[covert surge]

BA is from Waffen, Acastus is from Intercorp, Zhukov is here, Gilgamesh is #new-content-resources

Just read up on em

Man i kinda want to make a hello X from X meme with the four frames just throwing shit away

[worthy steeple]

that one spiderman pointing meme

[ornate verge]

God imagine a squad of these guys. It would just be wild.

[worthy steeple]

omg yes

[verbal veldt]

Hey, can I get some feedback on a build? I got pointed here from #mech-hangar

[worthy steeple]

I just hadn an idea
turret printers
loads of dispoable turrets

[verbal veldt]

So, uh... I made this build centered around planting mines and then forcing people to get affected with the Detonator
-- IPS-N GORSHKOV @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N GORSHKOV 2, HA Sunzi 1, SSC Monarch 1, SSC Atlas 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Ghostweave, Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ TALENTS ]
Infiltrator 3, Demolitionist 3, Grease Monkey 3
[ STATS ]
HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
STRUCTURE:4 HP:19 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:6
TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+2
SPD:5 EVA:8 EDEF:10 SENSE:15 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Detonator / Pistol // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
Blink Charges x5, Personalizations, Pattern-B HEX Charges x5, Armament Redundancy, Javelin Rockets, Jäger Kunst I

I'm asking for feedback on what to improve and swap around

[covert surge]

"Lancer, only the coreworld is post scarcity! Your gears and parts are not free! Lancer, NO!"

[pale lance]

Oh god

[pale lance]

Please add the nickel from Scrapper to this image

Also Terk! Can we expect to see alt frames of both your homebrew and existing frames in the future?

[covert surge]

far future, still got a good way to go for the base supplement frame

i got a few alts in the backroom

[indigo gulch]

concerned Saladin noises

[cerulean smelt]

Dammit now I wanna run a game with each of these mechs and a Nickel

Fuck it I'm getting my players to do that

Can also count as playtesting Zhukov lmao

[covert surge]

yes plz playtest

the core im keeping a close eye on because its almost impossible to tell without actual play because its damage is very high but its condition to fire is also very counterable

[hardy citrus]

@covert surge

[covert surge]

after the battle the battlefield becomes a landfill with all these discarded parts

[cerulean smelt]

Immediately saving this

I'll see if i can organize a oneshot with multiple scenes

[mild prairie]

Since I know of Intercorp now, I of course had to cobble something together but I can't think of a punchline, except Big Fucking Crystal

[hushed field]

Sorry for ghost message, put something in the wrong channel.

[cerulean smelt]

Just organized a game for Zhukov let's gooo

Need some sitrep ideas to get the full potential of it out

Along with Subutai

[covert surge]

💪

[cerulean smelt]

Any suggestions on this?

[mild prairie]

well, it's in the middle of the night for me, not sure what the population is here but it might be true for the majority of folks in here

[pale lance]

Subutai lets go!

[ornate verge]

I mean you could do a breach and clear up with a rescue as well

[hybrid ledge]

Zhukov Neutron Gauntlet on White Witch sounds pretty goated too

just guarantee your own ferroreactive armor build up on a weapon you can eventually completely resist

[covert surge]

Neutron self damage is AP

[hybrid ledge]

darn

[covert surge]

Put it on a Balor or a Manticore instead

[hybrid ledge]

welp, back to playing my Yermak Pharos combo

[covert surge]

Or funnily enough, Emperor

[hybrid ledge]

Because Pharos with the heavy Fusion cutter is basically the deadliest thing i've ever played

leave it on dissect mode, basically got perma 3 attacks with it

which basically I can load it up with Overpower Caliber and basically just as much damage as I can into a single weapon cuz 3 attacks a turn?

with a heavy?

but also Yermak with an UNCLE'd Blackspot Targeting Laser is also really goated

[cerulean smelt]

Daang I gotta try that

[cerulean smelt]

That's an excellent idea

I should do the train thing from Enhanced Combat aswell lmao

[hybrid ledge]

but yeah Heavy Fusion Cutter with Pharos has gotten silly

and cuz it's heavy, I'm using it with Heavy Gunner Overwatch stuff

I really like Yermak

[verbal veldt]

Hey, does Malware delivery pack from TUKHACHEVSKY work with Annihilator secondary attacks?

[covert surge]

Yeh

[verbal veldt]

Awesome, any enemy I fight with my Tukha boy are gonna want to be spread out.

[steep pebble]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pi9N_2_6mgN7bTxj55JphLxY5X8anZGNgmPvQxc-7Vw/edit?usp=sharing

[cosmic steppe]

Is the Salvager drone supposed to be able to act outside of your turn?

It does say "Once per turn, it may choose one of the following actions:"

Only specifies movement on your turn

I figure its only on your turn but figured I'd check

[covert surge]

Your turn

[harsh rampart]

Huh that looks really cool. Wonder what sort of amazingly talented homebrewer wrote that?

[cerulean smelt]

Someone called MissileR@t or smthn

[vocal grove]

Does Rat King's equipped mounts work with Autostabilizing Hard Points?

As in, do the drone(s) benefit from it

And, followup question, if you take Gyges Frame, do they gain the additional threat

[steep pebble]

It's so good, I'm wondering if there's going to be an lcp for it.

[novel wolf]

I don't know if I'm misremembering but is there a system or frame trait that adds blast to an existing weapon?

[covert surge]

Subutai omen add blast 1 to arcing/seeking weapon without template if you delay it

[covert surge]

No. All things not mentioning drone dirrectly would not affect em, including talent cb etc

[novel wolf]

Mmhmm

[covert surge]

also hey gang, a supplement I did art for is now in testing #1235029747893932072

[novel wolf]

I'm just trying to think if you can get the "1 structure gun" to have an aoe

Wait, Does the 1 structure gun work on an enemy with immunity?

That gun is also capable of just deleting an eidolon layer which is funny

[covert surge]

its not an omni gun, it is not reduced by things like resistance or half damage but if enemy straight up just have immunity to damage then it wont work

[novel wolf]

Fair, I think it's an "ummm acksually" rules lawyer moment where technically taking damage straight to structure isn't damage because you don't lose any HP

[covert surge]

you can hurl lawyers into the duat

[novel wolf]

Valid

Sorry I'm just trying to think of how to abuse this weapon as much as possible >:D

[novel wolf]

-- GMS Everest @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  HA Sherman 3, HA Zhukov 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Heatfall Coolant System, Integrated Ammo Feeds
[ TALENTS ]
  Grease Monkey 3, Nuclear Cavalier 3, Walking Armory 3
[ STATS ]
  HULL:2 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:6
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:19 ARMOR:0
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:12 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+5
  SPD:4 EVA:8 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
  Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun
  MAIN MOUNT: Assault Rifle
  FLEX MOUNT: Centauri-Pattern Phase Nexus
  HEAVY MOUNT: Ontologic Incisor
[ SYSTEMS ]
  ASURA-Class NHP x6, Redundant Systems Upgrade x6, Personalizations, Pattern-B HEX Charges x8

7 uses of Ontologic Incisor, L + Overcharge + Initiative + Asura. Ultra goliath? More like ultra dead

[cerulean smelt]

That's terrifying

Very on theme for HA

[novel wolf]

Could probs swap ha heatfall Coolant for autostab. If you go all in with overcharge and stuff it has 12 heat cap and 6 uses of redundant systems upgrade. It can just stabilise too

[covert surge]

put it on da gilg for 8 uses

[novel wolf]

TRUE but the everest is more efficient with repairs + grease monkey, and requires less LL's

Also, a pretty funny interaction but that gun trivialises ||Khepri and virga|| in dustgrave

||You can shoot Virga and one shot him before he can spawn Khepri, because despite his overshield he only has 1 structure, but if you rule it to only remove the overshield and enter the second phase and summon Khepri, you can just fucking do it again and one shot Khepri because it has like 50 hp/person and only 1 structure||

[covert surge]

https://tenor.com/view/power-word-kill-gif-11228986739389104120

[novel wolf]

Who would win:
||- Horrible NHP frankensteins monster amalgamation that breaks the FCA||

• Everest with gun that makes things not exist

[covert surge]

call it a barbarossa shooting down ship moment

taking a bite out of the concept of you

[covert surge]

I just had an idea to update Goldstreak art and make the tube arm just unfathomay ripped

Like dude just hit the ssc mech gym

/hj

[mild prairie]

Classified graphic for the Frundsberg Mk 0.5

[covert surge]

image the RnD received before going "hold on let them cook"

[crude ravine]

this was what JCH 3 drew on a napkin and threw at RnD

[mild prairie]

WHY DO THEY KEEP PUTTING WARPIKES ON THE BARBAROSSA?! - Gottfried Zimmermann, probably

[covert surge]

I must study these pilot's mind like a frog in a biology class

[indigo gulch]

"hehe warpike go brrr" - Anonymous Armory Lancer, 5016U

[fresh reef]

This is more what SSC does

[rigid chasm]

oh wait, pikes

[cerulean smelt]

Pull an Evangelion Unit 13 and be so unnecessarily strong despite looking so thin

[vocal grove]

wait, does the Suleiman not natively have a way to ram people larger than it?

[hybrid ledge]

no

[vocal grove]

:( sad, I'll need to pay the blackbeard tax

[hybrid ledge]

you'll learn that even if you're size 3 you gotta pay the blackbeard tax

[full nimbus]

There are no builds that ram/grapple that don’t pay the tax

That I’ve seen

[vocal grove]

😔

[covert surge]

Wrecking Ball affect Ram thats an oversight

[tacit thicket]

do zhukov’s integrated weapons from superior armory get to use auto-stabilizing hardpoints

[covert surge]

Autostab yes

[tacit thicket]

[delicate lichen]

for the upcoming Heruka rework, i notice the wording on Blade from the Duat has been changed to no longer specifically exclude superheavy weapons - does this mean Blade from the Duat works with superheavies now?

(or, well, when the Heruka rework drops anyway)

[covert surge]

It has three mount, it dont get sheav

[delicate lichen]

oh right it doesn't get a heavy, got bamboozled by it specifying on the old version of the trait

[novel wolf]

-- SSC VICEROY @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  SSC Monarch 3, HA FRUNDSBERG 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints, Integrated Ammo Feeds
[ TALENTS ]
  Grease Monkey 3, Vanguard 3, Stormbringer 3
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+4
  SPD:5 EVA:8 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
  AUX/AUX MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
  FLEX MOUNT: Sharanga Missiles
  HEAVY MOUNT: Pinaka Missiles // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
  THOR-Class NHP x6, Armament Redundancy, Personalizations, Rapid Burst Jump Jet System, Custom Paint Job

I did a thing, a gimmick... once per scene... this mech may shoot someone from 20 tiles away with an overwatch with a pinaka Missile... it is so dumb and stupid and should never be played. But it's funny

[vocal grove]

Oh, it does? Will this be fixed in future releases?

[covert surge]

probably

if i remember it

[vocal grove]

[gaunt nymph]

As someone who is referred to as “the rat” in other games and have adopted Skaven as my personality, I feel obligated to try out Rat King atleast once

[mild prairie]

I play a ratfolk rogue in Pathfinder, so same. Unfortunately I am always hesitant to use drones because I am always afraid that they get destroyed too soon

Though I suppose the Micro-Forge Trait makes that a non-issue

[indigo gulch]

remember: drones and limited charges are expendable resources. Simply having them out on the field taking actions is beneficial

ENG and HULL are the best stats for a reason

[mild prairie]

Yes, I know that on paper but please don't hurt my children

[covert surge]

Rat King is absolutely built to shove your drones in the way of fire to take the bullet for you lol

[mild prairie]

With Schrödingers Targeting, yeah, definitly

Did Dagon and/or Geryon get a meme made already?

[covert surge]

Not that i know of

[mild prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/phineas-and-ferb-i-know-what-were-gonna-do-today-i-know-what-were-going-to-do-today-gif-27359053

[hushed field]

About the Rat King.. Are you then intended to not care about friendly fire when using assault cannons and LHACs?

[mild prairie]

If 50.1% of bullets go into the enemy rather than friendlies, that's a win

[open ginkgo]

Also pretty sure anyone can make a meme- it's not a one person thingy

[rigid chasm]

I’ll probably try making one for the geryon

[shell quest]

If I, (Rat King) try to grapple from the position of an entangled drone, does the grapple automatically fail as I am not adjacent to the enemy, thus immediately breaking adjacency, or does the enemy count as being "grappled" by the drone?

As well as: If I perform an attack or action that pulls the enemy towards me, does it move towards me or the drone that was the origin of said action?

[covert surge]

im pretty sure teleportation already automatically breaks grapple

and drone of origin, for all intent and purpose you are at the drone's position for the duration of the attack/action

[shell quest]

Oh, but I mean using the "action originates from the drones position" to attempt a grapple, I don't think a Teleport occurs anywhere during that.

[covert surge]

rat king trouble shooting 😭

the grapple fails

[shell quest]

That seems more reasonable that Rat king giving inexplicable grappling capabilities to all drones in Lancer, yes yes.

[mild prairie]

Sure, but I want to make sure no mech is left out ^^

[strong pagoda]

@covert surge saw your post about Vasily Orbital Systems and I absolutely love the idea of a more hard science-specialised manufacturer and the naming scheme. This may be presumptuous but if you'd want any sort of feedback/writing/suggestions for the lore side of things I'd love to do that in that regard.

[covert surge]

Sure, still really early in dev at this point so i just have bullet points instead of full lore

[strong pagoda]

haha, just saw your comment in #904578869535838219

[mild prairie]

Can we just appreciate how good the Dagon art is at invoking Chthulu vibes (fins, krakenhead) without actually doing it?

[gaunt nymph]

Wait....is Morgan inspired by Gangplank from LoL?

[rigid chasm]

@covert surge Question: can this be done multiple times in a given rest?

As in, by spending multiple repairs

[covert surge]

Ye

[shell quest]

I felt it was inspired by the Morgan from rum

[cosmic steppe]

The painted lady moves 3 every time it takes a reaction right. Well Leader gives you a reaction to give someone a leadership dice, but part of leadership is that they can give it back to you as a free action.

So then on every allies turn you give them a leadership dice and they hand it back and you move 3*allies spaces over the course of a round

Without really spending anything

[covert surge]

What in the god damn

Uuuuuh

Ill think of sth tmr morning 😴

[harsh rampart]

Maybe just limit it to each unique reaction

That way you can't spam leadership

[covert surge]

Its meant to hook into its own red rose reaction

Which with core active becomes unlimited instead of 1/round

[harsh rampart]

Oof

That's... Tough, then

[cosmic steppe]

yeah

thats a tough one to work around without gutting the ability

Maybe could just be unique reaction except the javalin

[harsh rampart]

Just be really specific and petty with it. Make it only on each unique reaction, and then say Red Rose ignores that and can activate the trait every time

[shell quest]

Haio! How do Sputnik drones interact with limited weaponry?

[covert surge]

it eat from your stock

omnomnom

[shell quest]

Does it eat one charge per salvo or would six sputniks firing once immediately devour all my stub cannon ammo?

[covert surge]

the later

[shell quest]

Harsh... that makes limited weaponry downright useless on those buggers, Sad.

Also sputniks do take energy damage when firing heat weapons, no?

[covert surge]

Yes

[shell quest]

Kk.

[craggy knoll]

So how does the Ontologic Incisor interact with the phase-ready mod? Mod says if you target enemies the way it lets you, you treat enemies as invisible. Ontologic Incisor says it ignores invisible

[covert surge]

I added a “cannot be modified by mod” clause since last time actually

Since i just added a mod that let you split stream your firing in one of the thing im writting

[craggy knoll]

Ah okay makes sense, probably a good call

[cosmic steppe]

We may be doing a little play testing tonight of a ll3 frundsburg, painted lady and rat king. Just wanted to know if you thought of anything for the Painted Lady reaction stuff

I think right now we’re gonna have bounce work on unique reactions except the core power warhead where it can happen any amount of times per round

[covert surge]

yeah thats the plan rn

bracing myself for more unintended Rat Kings interactions

[summer swallow]

Rat rat rat rat rat

[hushed field]

I swear, if we took a shot every time there was a Rat King issue, we'd collectively be under the table by now.

[spring creek]

at the moment the big interaction that is both unintended and annoying but I dont want to take it away from the player is weaponsmith from intercorp, which lets you create a mod to put on your weapon, with stuff like "on crit: prone"

[summer swallow]

Rats

[open ginkgo]

Rat king is either the best mech or the worst mech and I can’t tell which

[covert surge]

i am become Jank, creator of Rat King

[raven socket]

I would posit that it's the best worst mech

[harsh rampart]

Bworest

[cerulean smelt]

which license is next on the roster for getting LCPified?

[covert surge]

🏴‍☠️

[harsh rampart]

Morgan?