AP will not save them
#Terk Mech & Tech
smoky meteor
Non-AP attacks will actually still deal chip
indigo gulch
but doesn't Napoleon have 2 Armor?
smoky meteor
Armor applies before reducing the damage to 1.
indigo gulch
Ah
smoky meteor
Though that armor still tells Rainmakers to get fucked tbh.
hushed fieldBOT
Is.. Is this like.. Is this a Sundowner build?
cerulean smelt
RED SUN OVER PARADISE
hushed fieldBOT
I've always wanted to make a Sundowner build, but never quite figured it out.
ornate verge
If it's a sundowner build where is the giant death scissors?
indigo gulch
Therr are unfortunately no giant scissors in Lancer atm bcz no one has the guts to make a Kill La Kill mech
fresh thistle
Realized #_UR Packet has the ai tag
what the fuck is this thing
Hastur class NHP?
winged hamlet
what the fuck is this thing
Yes
covert surge
👁️ #_UR is 👁️
covert surge
Also congrat on being like the first person to realize #_ur is Hastur w out me telling em lmao
still socket
Oh no what have you done.
He's coming, now.
Anyway
When the dead space mech
jk, jk, already there's a lot of mechs to be added
covert surge
#1200299351545741312
oh you mean the Yermak
soon ™️
kinda busy w a bunch of commis work rn
indigo grail
how does the Dagon's sacrifice spear work in terms of the obbsession protocol?
indigo grail
also I love the sheer amount of frames added in the Terk Mech expansion
raven socket
We still have a bunch to go, too
indigo grail
yeah how many are Harrison, I need to be able to use stress as a resource
Also, Dagon is cool AF but holy fudge does the core power potentially break a encounter in half, 50 sensor range for you and your allies nuts
raven socket
yeah ~~how many are Harrison, I need to be able to use stress as a resource~~
At least two more
(WIPs)
indigo grail
I saw the Yermak frame and absolutely loved the inspiration from deadspace
disabling weapons and limbs sounds like my kind of shit
anyways, does the Dagon do it's full damage of 1d6 to allies when it hits, or just the AP damage from clearing conditions?
raven socket
anyways, does the Dagon do it's full damage of 1d6 to allies when it hits, or ju...
@covert surge
ornate verge
Love the Baldwin. He's just a little guy here to help
delicate leaf
Love the Baldwin. He's just a little guy here to help
It’s like the UrbanMech from Battletech or the Centurion from 40k.
“What In The Fuck. That Is Actually Very Cute. Look At Its Little Legs and Over-Sized Body. Adorable.”
ornate verge
And then it either dumps a heavy auto cannon into you or fires cruise missiles at you
indigo grail
well, I have my Dagon build
-- HORUS DAGON @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
HORUS DAGON 3, HORUS Pegasus 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
The Lesson of Shaping, The Lesson of Disbelief
[ TALENTS ]
Technophile 3, Iconoclast 3, Vanguard 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:4 ENGI:0
STRUCTURE:4 HP:23 ARMOR:0
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:5 REPAIR:6
TECH ATK:+5 LIMITED:+0
SPD:3 EVA:6 EDEF:18 SENSE:3 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
FLEX MOUNT: Behold
MAIN MOUNT: Sacrificial Spear
[ SYSTEMS ]
#_Ur Packet, SISYPHUS-Class NHP, Enlightenment-Class NHP, Unstable NHP, Meta-Altar, Data Lash```They are false.
Nonexistent.
They cling to reality, needing an Anchor.
The Metal is an Anchor.
The Flesh is an Anchor.
It is Real, and it is Grounding.
raven socket
Excellent flavouring
indigo grail
yeah, I actually got the lines from a friend of mine when I showed them another Iconoclast build with 4 NHPs on it
honestly though I think the goblin might be a better pick, but im not sure
its actually the system point count holding me back the most
raven socket
The dagon has that fun eldritch vibe to it
indigo grail
absolutely
and it gets a memetic spark capable of hitting with 10 damage while transendent
gonna take Hunter 2 specifically so I can auto retrieve the Sacrifical spear at the end of my turn
actually, that means I don't need the vanguard when I can use hunter for movement, but would pistol and knife work?
actually, yeah, that does sound like a good idea
Osiris NHP
Im going to see what a LL12 version of my Dagon build might look like
raven socket
Im going to see what a LL12 version of my Dagon build might look like
Always love to see those ^^
Just seeing how mad you can make a build
indigo grail
for example
[ LICENSES ]
HORUS DAGON 3, HORUS Goblin 3, HORUS Balor 1, HORUS Lich 1, HORUS Kobold 1, SSC Mourning Cloak 2, SSC Death’s Head 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
The Lesson of Shaping, The Lesson of Disbelief, The Lesson of Thinking-Tomorrow’s-Thought, Kai Bioplating
[ TALENTS ]
Technophile 3, Iconoclast 3, Hunter 3, Hacker 3, Skirmisher 2, Duelist 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:6 AGI:2 SYS:6 ENGI:0
STRUCTURE:4 HP:30 ARMOR:0
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:5 REPAIR:7
TECH ATK:+7 LIMITED:+0
SPD:4 EVA:8 EDEF:20 SENSE:3 SAVE:17
[ WEAPONS ]
FLEX MOUNT: Fold Knife / Fold Knife
MAIN MOUNT: Sacrificial Spear
[ SYSTEMS ]
#_Ur Packet, OSIRIS-Class NHP, Meta-Altar, Armament Redundancy, Data Lash, High-Stress Mag Clamps, Scanner Swarm```Pry Them OPEN
raven socket
That is quite the build
indigo gulch
damn we be cookin cursed builds here
indigo grail
mag clamps to climb up walls
fold knives for tp, which will also work wonderfully for hunter 3's free action knife throw
TTT is great for just hacking someone then charging with lunge to hit with the unreducable spear
duelist one just for more main weapon accuracy
Scanner swarms for point blank hacking, which would go very nicely with Hastur Packet treating you as at the construct's location for direct hacking again
Osiris for the RP as well as powerfully as hell invade options that range from controll, to free 4AP dmg for the spear to a immedite stun, and of course the 4th gate of mind control
Meta alter for dishing out more conditions,
Data lash for taking advantage of Disbelief, and my stupid high E defense
and said data lash is going to be proccing a lot thanks to Dagon's prescence
shame i couldn't fit the Beholder in it, would of loved the cone scan, but need the knives for talents and mobility
also im very suseptible to heat
god forbide i deal with a Empaaki or a gilgamesh armed with a thermal blade
or worse, a goblin that can match my amount of tech attack
ornate verge
An empaaki might just make you supernova lol
indigo grail
yeah, thats the problem
i could put the points in engineering instead, but I need the speed
cause i literally have 3 speed
winged hamlet
damn we be cookin cursed builds here
I have an even more cursed napoleon now
-- HA Napoleon @ LL9 -- [ LICENSES ] HA Napoleon 2, C&H PESILAT 3, HA ARTHUR 2, SSC Metalmark 1, IPS-N Nelson 1 [ CORE BONUSES ] Overpower Caliber, Heatfall Coolant System, Crash Bars [ TALENTS ] Juggernaut 3, Vanguard 3, Skirmisher 3, Brawler 2, Prospector 1 [ STATS ] HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:5 STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:2 STRESS:4 HEATCAP:13 REPAIR:5 TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+2 SPD:5 EVA:10 EDEF:8 SENSE:5 SAVE:16 [ WEAPONS ] MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Shotgun / Pistol [ SYSTEMS ] Dipping Swallow Module, Full-Chassis Reinforcement, Reactive Weave, Bulwark Mods, Stasis Bolt, Ultracharger, Custom Paint Job, Personalizations
Ap caliber should be on the main/flex
indigo grail
what's crash bars?
winged hamlet
"You may roll all structure damage checks twice and choose either result. Additionally, you gain Immunity to all damage from falling."
indigo grail
from a different 3rd party content, right?
winged hamlet
Field guide to Suldan
indigo grail
Nice
also the fall damage would be very damn handy on a alt frame Idea i had for the Caliban
winged hamlet
The main draw is every time you brace you reduce the damage to 1, move 6 spaces, go invisible, and then deck the person who shot you if you get within improvised attack range. Repeat for every braceable attack until round ends. If your improvised attacks destroy anyone you do not suffer the downsides of bracing
indigo grail
jesus, a frickin jumpscare Napoleon
and of course stasis bolt for the defense, brawler for better improv attack, prospecter for digging holes, and juggernaut to be unstopable
winged hamlet
yes
indigo grail
and full Skirmish for mobility and skating around enemies
meanwhile I made a dagon build focused on hacking and Iconoclast
indigo grail
its a few messages above, and involves fold knives, 5 NHPs, and enough hacking options to stack on conditions to clear for extra damage on sacrifical spear
kai bioplating, skirmisher, and mag clamps for making more mobility
as well as fold knives and hunter, especially potent since fold knives can be throw as a free action when i hit with my spear
winged hamlet
its a few messages above, and involves fold knives, *5 NHPs*, and enough hacking...
5 NHPs geeze that blows my 4 NHPs gorgon out of the water
indigo grail
yep, that spear was damn costly though
that left me with less systems than I would of wanted, but it does certainly help the spear is a amazing choice
i originally went with Sisyphus for probability cannibalism, but that hurts my action eco so
winged hamlet
When I first looked over the Dagon, I could not understand what it was meant to do. Probably the point
winged hamlet
i originally went with Sisyphus for probability cannibalism, but that hurts my a...
Ah
indigo grail
and by far my best damage option is the memetic spark
when i go transendent, its 10AP dmg
it's a displacer without the heat or the loading, and it isn't even a attack
meaning i could boost afterward, and that doesn't effect the chaff launcher
honestly one change i am iffy on making is if i want to replace scanner swarm with personalizations or not
but then that means im not at a even 30 health
17 system points and i still feel like i don't have all the systems i want
core bonuses are absolutely fine however
lesson of shaping for obvious reasons
TTT for accurate melee and no dmg negation
and Disbelief for 20 E defense
perfect for data lash
still socket
Oh that's nice
indigo grail
YESSSSSSSSS
MR LIMB\
oh my god
the beam diffuser
its a beauty
CONEEEEEEEEEEEE
YESSSSSSSSS
THE CONE MOD IS REALLLLLLLLLL
indigo grail
also I love the final LL
not only is the heavy fusion cutter amazing, Svarog NHP's flavor text is absolutely amazing
oh my god
It is now closely associated with the "Surprise Safety Inspection", an of-used tactic by Trunk security team where the Yermak will install a MULE harness to carry an entire boarding team of Caliban with it, silently float up to a ship, cut its way through the hull with its plasma cutters in order to deposit said Calibans directly into the ship's deck.
this is glorious
indigo gulch
```It is now closely associated with the "Surprise Safety Inspection", an of-use...
Ah the buzz droid tactic
cerulean smelt
Alternate universe where Yermak is just a REALLY BIG Kobold with a bunch of little Goblins
indigo gulch
Imagine a full suite of Dusk Wings just breaching in and filling the ship halls with mirror clones.
cerulean smelt
Absolute terror
indigo grail
Imagine a full suite of Dusk Wings just breaching in and filling the ship halls ...
WHAT IS REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL
indigo gulch
Damn they weren't lying, it taught them as it killed them.
winter temple
a squad of Kobolds to seal the entrances and then reseal the breached hole
a squad of Napoleons for...
indigo grail
INVINCABLE MECHA DWARVES
indigo grail
im just imagining now what a tachyon lance with a MK3 beam Diffuser attached would look like
cause it takes 6 heat now, BUTT
you blow a plasmathower's damage out of the water
indigo gulch
... I just had a dumb thought
Mk3 on a Blackspot
You now have a Cone 7 Blackspot
Combine that with Bligh, and the Swabber Drones will have open season
Wait.
Arc Projector becomes Cone 3
Meaning you can proc several On Hits and cause a massive chain blast of lightning
god there's so much FUCKERY you can do with this
Warp Rifle, Unraveler, SHATTERHEAD, Annihilator
indigo grail
Arc Projector becomes Cone 3
arc projecter unfortunately as a stipulation that you can't hit a target twice with the weapon, which likely unfortunatly means it won't work here
black spot on the other hand.....
indigo gulch
Shatterhead is now a Cone 7 that takes no difficulty
indigo grail
honestly though
indigo gulch
It goes from One cluster missle to THE SKY IS SHRAPNEL
indigo grail
Gandiva missles actually do damage
winter temple
Mk3 on a Blackspot
blackspot strobelight
indigo gulch
That's awesome
indigo gulch
blackspot strobelight
The baatlefield becomes Carmeldansen in another room
indigo grail
Hydra starts dancing in it while everyone else dies
winter temple
this made me remember that one scene from animusic
indigo grail
you.... just becoming fucking terrifying
indigo gulch
Cone 5 Delete Button
winter temple
also doesn't the "damage reduced on aoes rule" apply and all that
indigo grail
probably?
Im not caught up on those rules
Sherman's heavy lazer trades some burn for a additonal 1d6 in damage
so you get a heavy mounted plasma thrower that has more heat per fire
delicate leaf
ded spess draft
That is a thing of utter beauty.
I want 20 in purple.
indigo grail
but holy fuck when this thing is mounted on a tachyon lance
indigo grail
That is a thing of utter beauty.
I want 20 in purple.
same
except for in purple, I want mine to keep the classic paint job
indigo grail
but one thing I wanna say is i don't know if the MK3 diffuser mod on LL 2 is a good idea
maybe switch the heavy fusion cutter and beam diffuser mod so that its more of a investment to let it's aoe potential be more of a potential investment?
sweet marsh
cone 7 heat 6 tachyon lance sounds hilarious
indigo grail
yeah, you basically beat a genghis at it's own game of burning EVERYTHING to the ground
sweet marsh
cone 7 heat 2 gandiva missiles? maybe cone 3 (threat 3) heat 4 annihilator becomes degenerate? secondary attacks seem fun if you get the cone every time
i think those are the only relevant energy weapons in core
indigo grail
anhilator might not work cause of the stipulation for not hitting different enemies on secondary attacks
there's blackspot target laser as well
sweet marsh
annihilator doesn't have that text, only arc projector (the manticore one)
annihilator specifies that its secondary attacks can't recurse forever, but you can catch them in the blast again with this
indigo grail
oh, for the tokugawa
sweet marsh
correct
sweet marsh
it seems goofy on a vanguard setup on something - that's toku 1. threat 3 starts melting any group you're near very quickly, except for the 4 heat/usage on yourself
indigo grail
bolt nexus would be absolutely fucking goofy
sweet marsh
i dont think it would be. you'd instantly break the buffed version if the cone includes multiple targets
winter temple
Warp rifle is a controllers absolute *favorite*
[Roland Chamber Nanocomp Beam Diffuser Warp Rifle] flash hey where'd the enemies go?
sweet marsh
yeah, i think the best users here are still the sherman rifles. tachyon is 2 more heat than a plasma thrower & ordnance, but goes from 1d6+2 energy + 6 burn to 2d6 + 8 burn
that seems disgusting if you set up a cooling cycle somehow
indigo grail
Gandiva missles also would be absolutely disgusting
just a constant barrage of highly accurate missles
sweet marsh
gandiva missiles are sick because theyre so free. seeking + smart + accurate + no base heat
sweet marsh
gandiva are 1 sp
winter temple
oops
indigo grail
so, I love Terk and tech for all of its frames and systems and weapons but-
what the hell is with Dharmachakra being able to be charged in a OC turn to then be able to do 4d6+2 damage on a main weapon
like I get the charging mechanic behind it but
even though it reduces speed, said weapon is powerfully enough to rival superheavies
covert surge
You gain 1d6 per action used to charge, action that, if use to just like fire another melee, is probably getting you more than an extra 1d6 damage
indigo grail
yes, but then its on the license for a frame that attacks through invades, which negates a lot of the purpose of it negating speed and
you know what, im just gonna stop the rant there
indigo grail
You gain 1d6 per action used to charge, action that, if use to just like fire an...
sorry Terk, the concept is really cool, there's just some things here i don't agree with balance wise
covert surge
The math just works out through Action Econ to Damage ratio being equivalent or worse than just barraging w another main in like 99% of situ
indigo grail
anyways, the Yermak is A amazing piece of ISP-N tech
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHFDc60_Mso8hN9xOTRKiUxu3HYD_FbQn5NykbX9a-c/edit#heading=h.rgrk03xnik2j
covert surge
The upside is being able to stack shit on a single big attack to capitalize on things like autostab or nanocomp, else it loses out to just barrage/shock wreathe converting 1qa to 1d6 burn w bells and whistle
indigo grail
so why is it at LL2, and not 3?
indigo grail
DSAS?
indigo grail
fair point, that thing is amazing
indigo grail
The creme de la creme of ll1 dip
right with the Unraveller
as for Yermak, whoever came up with the idea for the beam diffuser mod is amazing"
like its one hell of a trade off, but the AOE potential is freaking amazing
like the blackspot targeting laser suddenly makes you a Hydra's best friend for close quarters
the unraveller, dear lord that thing is dangerous on a pegasus already and its now a cone
covert surge
Im thinking of racketing up the range bracket conversion to make it a bit less efficient actually like 0-10, 10-20, >20 and moving up to ll3
indigo grail
honestly I was thinking the same for the latter adjustment, given how with certain weapons it's positively nuts
and the HFC being in LL 2 would make a lot of sense, and would be a great starting place to first get the Yermak immiedeitly equipped with it's iconic fusion cutter
also the latter half of the flavor text is amazing
Surpise safety inspection
covert surge
Sitting on deck commanding a ship when suddenly the wall falls off and a team of Caliban stream into the room while a giant colossus peak its head in
indigo grail
some absolutely terrifying shit!
and one hell of a hilarious idea for a party
and the icebreaker salvager array
multi attack aux that also can react to lock on and crit hits
yes
and the NHP is absolutely a mood
like I laughed so much reading the bit about it's cascade rates due to people being careless from it just doing more of it's own job
honestly the only thing I have a bit of concern in is how Chop shop is going to play out, cause while it obviously makes sense
it could be really powerful for just breaking fundamental tools of certain mechs and such, shutting them down completely within 2 rounds
my fears mostly just boil down to the fact tokens can be put on a mech twice a round instead of just once
covert surge
Just one means like three rounds of shooting before the trait comes into effect which is alot unless you are facing some boss-tier enemy
indigo grail
right, its the fact we're dealing with different types of enemies instead of just other frames
grunts to bosses, that sort of thing
covert surge
This way, big boss enemy usually have more optional systems to cushion the dismember
indigo grail
and Armament Redundancy does exist
covert surge
While lower tier npc are more vulnerable to getting its main gun cut off, doing so means youve shot that npc like 3-4 times already which should be almost killing em already
indigo grail
yeah, unless you're using a Aux which hey look at that a integrated aux with multi target
great integrated weapon
covert surge
You also have a heavy mount so unless barraging you are choosing between just whacking them over the head w the giant gun tm or doing chip damage to a bunch of targets in hope of stacking token
But hey this is whiteroom analysis, best wait for playtest info
indigo grail
yep, I certainly wouldn't mind playtesting this frame cause it looks really freaking fun to use
summer swallow
I am normal about sully
cerulean smelt
Sonic the hedgehog alt frame when?
wraith birch
Also, just gonna throw this here.
cosmic steppe
When you use bladebreaker against someone, is there any way to add bonuses it? For example if they have lock on can you consume lock-on to add accuracy?
Or use a leadership dice if someone screamed “block that attack” at you
indigo grail
Nice!
fresh thistle
Also congrat on being like the first person to realize #_ur is Hastur w out me t...
yeah i'm a cthulhu mythos nerd
i realized i replied horribly late to that
fresh thistle
I JUST NOW REALIZED
#_UR is PRONOUNCED LIKE THE NAME HASTUR OR SOMETHING I THINK WHA
(my older brother pointed it out I did not notice that)
ornate verge
Also, just gonna throw this here.
My player who went Nelson flight type and Frundsberg license agrees heartily
covert surge
Nvm the counter is reset to 0
List of ppl who realized #_ur is pronounced close to to Hastur: 0
spring creek
I mean technically its still 1, its just not shambler
covert surge
The Hall of Fame
still socket
Ur and Hastur have the same kind of pronouncia- wait people don't know that Ur was an ancient society once upon a time
Oh well
delicate leaf
So, does anyone know what the IPS-N James is supposed to be?
open ginkgo
?
cerulean smelt
SO
I have news
I've tested out the Rat King if it's drones could follow it's movement with the SSC Flight Suite
and it works really well
During the experience there wasn't anything game-breaking
indigo grail
so, while looking through how do potentially adjust my LL12 gorgon build, I decided to try and replace Meta alter cause I read the text stating it can't use conditons that were self inflicted (which honestly is probably for the best balance wise)
indigo grail
[ LICENSES ]
HORUS DAGON 3, HORUS Goblin 3, HORUS Balor 1, HORUS Lich 1, HORUS Kobold 1, SSC Mourning Cloak 2, SSC Death’s Head 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
The Lesson of Shaping, The Lesson of Disbelief, The Lesson of Thinking-Tomorrow’s-Thought, Kai Bioplating
[ TALENTS ]
Technophile 3, Iconoclast 3, Hunter 3, Hacker 3, Skirmisher 2, Duelist 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:6 AGI:2 SYS:6 ENGI:0
STRUCTURE:4 HP:30 ARMOR:0
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:5 REPAIR:7
TECH ATK:+7 LIMITED:+0
SPD:4 EVA:8 EDEF:20 SENSE:3 SAVE:17
[ WEAPONS ]
FLEX MOUNT: Fold Knife / Fold Knife
MAIN MOUNT: Sacrificial Spear
[ SYSTEMS ]
#_Ur Packet, OSIRIS-Class NHP, Armament Redundancy, Data Lash, High-Stress Mag Clamps, Scanner Swarm, Hunter Logic Suite, Enlightenment-Class NHP, Unstable NHP, Wandering Nightmare```that 17 system poiny limit was enough to where I had to choose between which systems I wanted to take
hunter logic was obvious, but it was the choice between Wandering nightmare, personalizations and the other single point options there were
spring creek
Imo gorgon frame is probably the way to go for a dagon iconoclast build
yellow signal lets you be wherever you need to be, and then you have better survivability than a dagon
downside is sensor range of course
indigo grail
wait, gorgon and Dagon both have the same amount of health, though dagon has 2 less evasion, they also have the same heat cap, which is the main problem Im facing
plus, Scylla also generates heat, which is one of the main things I do NOT want to do
spring creek
Ah, but gorgon has a passive 10% chance to dab on any attack, and the core power makes it even better. Combine that with flicker field and the gm has to commit a full round to structure you. It also lets you load up vorpal guns for free damage. Scylla is hot dogwater though, not debating that.
The good news is that Dagon already gives you two nhps, then two talent nhps, 1 more isn’t 100% necessary but if we really want one Osiris is there
indigo grail
yep, already took Osiris for its natural pairing with Iconoclast AND the sensor range pairing. it also does well with the RP aspect of it, given Osiris would be one of the more beligerant of the NHPs
and I already am maxed out on system points for things I really need 9 directly going into NHPs while others feed into other spaces needed for the build
mobility, condition stacking, controller, and better invade at close range
wait
are high stress mag clamps redundant on a frame with Kai bioplating?
spring creek
I think you’ll find yourself running out of quick actions immediately imo. Iconoclast builds have this magnificent ability to make your turn take 5 seconds
indigo grail
invade, attack, move
hmmmm
i might just switch out death head for a different SCC license and switch lich and kobold for gorgon
spring creek
Scorpion at least is 100% there for me
indigo grail
but the Dagon as the main frame stays because the system points and sensor abilites are too great a tradeoff to go using the gorgon
spring creek
Fair enough
But a free “if you fuck up hacking me you get jammed on the spot”
So many passive awesome things on gorgon
indigo grail
yeah, if the build wasn't so focused on hacking and sensor range, I'd definitely consider gorgon
but Osiris was more efficient regarding action eco, so I switched to it, started building around hacking, and that lead to my reliance on system points
Scorpion and Mimic would definitely be worth it
spring creek
Osiris is really funny because if something survives 4 rounds while you’re actively targeting it something has gone wrong
Oh shit I just realized monitor module is for the fold knives? That’s kinda cute
indigo grail
Lady Osiris cascades cause "MY POWERS ARE SUPERIOR WHY AREN'T YOU DEAAAAAAD"
where on the build sheet is monitor module?
cause I certainly didn't see that
honestly I'd be more going for Scorpion cause its a free condition for stacking the damage on Sacrifice spear
indigo grail
hmmmm
for the remaining SSC ll, its between duskwing and emperor
Dominon's breadth feels wonderfully in flavor for what the Dagon is gonna do, while Duskwing just has a really good invade
y'know what, Emperor it is
Dominon also has a chance to put out a aoe impair if enemies fail the engineering save
spring creek
Flicker field projector is a must pick if you can swing it
1sp to force your gm to roll invis checks
indigo grail
wait, its only one system point?
damn that's a painful choice, cause Hunter Logic suite is really damn good as well
spring creek
I don’t think you’ll ever really use it tbh
Move action compared to a quick tech
Osiris every turn, unstable, and weapon is gonna eat everything you want to do
indigo grail
Osiris every turn, unstable, and weapon is gonna eat everything you want to do
while yes those are going to certainly eat into my turns, its a choice between that and Exposed singularity as well
a reaction system that can let me TP within 1d6 spaces when I take damage, which can come in pretty damn handy as well for closing the distance on a particular target
also hunter logic is just really fitting, cause of the eldritch vibes of dagon
hmm, ill shift around the points and lls to see how it fits
[ LICENSES ]
HORUS DAGON 3, HORUS Goblin 3, HORUS Balor 1, SSC Mourning Cloak 1, HORUS Gorgon 2, SSC Dusk Wing 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
The Lesson of Shaping, The Lesson of Disbelief, The Lesson of Thinking-Tomorrow’s-Thought, Kai Bioplating
[ TALENTS ]
Technophile 3, Iconoclast 3, Hunter 3, Hacker 3, Skirmisher 2, Duelist 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:6 AGI:2 SYS:6 ENGI:0
STRUCTURE:4 HP:32 ARMOR:0
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:5 REPAIR:7
TECH ATK:+7 LIMITED:+0
SPD:4 EVA:8 EDEF:20 SENSE:3 SAVE:17
[ WEAPONS ]
FLEX MOUNT: Fold Knife / Fold Knife
MAIN MOUNT: Sacrificial Spear
[ SYSTEMS ]
#_Ur Packet, OSIRIS-Class NHP, Armament Redundancy, Data Lash, Scanner Swarm, Enlightenment-Class NHP, Unstable NHP, Flicker Field Projector, //SCORPION V70.1, Personalizations```oh i might of just realized a potentially evil combo
data cloaking and data lash
it can give weapon attacks smart for the duration of the attack if they aren't already, and if you are on a frame with Data lash in mind
that can become a big fucking problem for the enemy team if your e defense is high enough
problem is it's a ll2 investment on a a frame where there might not be enough room
though cabled dagger does pair nicely with it's E defense halving
indigo grail
oh?
raven socket
```-- HORUS DAGON @ LL12 --
[ LICENSES ]
HORUS DAGON 3, HORUS Goblin 3, HORUS ...
That is one nasty-ass Dagon :P
(to face, not calling it bad)
indigo grail
go ahead and try
nice, terk mech's is a great mech supplement!
honestly the only thing I need to change is the hacker talent, cause I only really need the first one, while Osiris takes care of the rest of my hacking needs
really what I need is either more movement or heat defense, which is pretty simple on the latter, but a bit unsure on the former since I already have skirmisher and hunter,
spring creek
Might consider nuke cav 1. Extra free 2 heat on a hack
indigo grail
huh, that could actually work....
though that doesn't solve the issue of heat cause I don't have enough LL to spare for the other 2 to get the fuel rod gun
which would be great for getting rid of heat from the limit of 5 I have
meanwhile black thumb is there for the threats that both burn and heat pose, and pair quite nicely with the Iconoclast build since I have 5 NHPs to hand control over to
its pretty damn amazing for what I need it for
spring creek
Scylla fuel rod gun
indigo grail
why does that feel like other than the issue of limited systems that could sort of work
you'd obviously be venting less heat, but not only is it on a reaction, its not really the damage that matters
but unfortunatly limited holds back how powerful this combo could be
and anyways black thumb 2 is there for condition and heat clearing
spring creek
Slag cannon fuel rod gun Scylla combos
Tbh I’m gonna steal that and go make a build somewhere else
winged hamlet
I just figured out that the Reverse Guillotine is funky fresh on the Orchis or Caliban. Make your own terrain to yeet people into and deal even more damage
indigo grail
so, any idea if we'll one day get a "Cloaker" frame to match the Dozer frame that is the Duilius?
hushed fieldBOT
Isn't that erm, the Gorshkov?
indigo grail
sort of i guess, but it doesn't really have the iconic glowing eyes, something for a dropkick that knocks you down and can keep you down, or insults that can make even the most battle hardened soldiers question themselves in fact, the Dulius even has something that would be perfect for a Cloaker mimicing frame, the Caestus, which is basically a mech sized baton that can be used to keep someone down
while the Gorshkov is more dedicated to actual sabatoge, negating soft and hard cover and invisible, disrupting enemy systems, and shoving a metal spike into a hostile to stun em
mind you it does its job well, its just not exactly a Cloaker per say, just in the same vein of special ops, but different branches
one can sneak up on you, knock you to the floor and keep you there, while beating the absolute shit out of you, and the other disrupts any hope of hiding, cover, or even relying on your own systems, before it goes in for the kill
given it does have a grapple system as well
cerulean smelt
-- HA ARTHUR @ LL6 -- [ LICENSES ] HA Saladin 3, HA ARTHUR 3 [ CORE BONUSES ] Superior by Design, Heatfall Coolant System [ TALENTS ] House Guard 3, Executioner 2, Sysop 2, Skirmisher 2 [ STATS ] HULL:4 AGI:4 SYS:0 ENGI:0 STRUCTURE:4 HP:19 ARMOR:1 STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:6 TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+0 SPD:5 EVA:12 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:13 [ WEAPONS ] Integrated: X-Caliber Plasmacore FLEX MOUNT: Shatterhead Colony Missiles HEAVY MOUNT: Clarent [ SYSTEMS ] ENCLAVE-Pattern Support Shield, Full-Chassis Reinforcement, NOAH-Class NHP
Wanted to dip into Saladin, would this build be decent?
indigo grail
`-- HA ARTHUR @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
HA Saladin 3, HA ARTHUR 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]...
good choice on the heatfall coolant system and Superior design for great overcharge use, and taking advantage of the high heat cap for your NHP, sounds like a great combo for a striker/Defender build, this is definitely decent
definitely on the edge though for if full chassis reinforcement is worth it though, given how brace can really mess with your action eco
cerulean smelt
i'm quite on the fence about that one aswell, I may go back and switch that out for Avalon Generator
extra layer of defense for the team
indigo grail
ehhhh, if there was more points in engi, then yeah that would definitely be great, but it only has 2 uses base.....
wait, what about Ultracharger and maybe charging nexus, since you'll be good enough at defending that the nexus will be protected as well?
and ultracharger works well with Heatfall as well
indigo grail
though that depends on if you want to sacrifce shatterhead for the extra system point
cerulean smelt
I could probably afford to
indigo grail
also why Psyop for support?
cerulean smelt
actually
cerulean smelt
also why Psyop for support?
I figured it'd work quite nicely
given Arthur bolsters a lot
indigo grail
Ahh, right, checked the frame trait, so that makes sense
cerulean smelt
-- HA ARTHUR @ LL6 -- [ LICENSES ] HA Saladin 3, HA ARTHUR 3 [ CORE BONUSES ] Superior by Design, Heatfall Coolant System [ TALENTS ] House Guard 3, Executioner 2, Sysop 2, Skirmisher 2 [ STATS ] HULL:4 AGI:4 SYS:0 ENGI:0 STRUCTURE:4 HP:19 ARMOR:1 STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:6 TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+0 SPD:5 EVA:12 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:13 [ WEAPONS ] Integrated: X-Caliber Plasmacore FLEX MOUNT: Shatterhead Colony Missiles HEAVY MOUNT: Clarent [ SYSTEMS ] ENCLAVE-Pattern Support Shield, NOAH-Class NHP, Ultracharger, Flash Anchor
Settled on this
Quite like it tbh
Charging Nexus can be added in at a higher level I reckon
indigo grail
yeah, and if shatterhead isn't needed, it opens up a nice slot for the charging nexus to be added
cerulean smelt
Absolutely
Shatterhead is helpful for closing gaps
Skirmish with Shatterhead, Skirmisher lets me move 2 spaces
and boost
indigo grail
yeah, I used it to combo with the fold knife for a lot of potential movement
cerulean smelt
And ofc if I choose to Edge™ things get juicy
indigo grail
yeah for sure, and it goes through walls like a barbarossa rail
damn effective
honestly the only thing I don't like was one specific change to the range requirements for the beam diffuser being raised from 5-10-15 to 10-20->20
like I understand that the original requirement was way too little for its potential for aoe even with the added heat and high system cost, but it literally means you need to take a core bonus to get the tachyon laser to 7 cone
cerulean smelt
For that I'm not sure, surely Terk has a reason for it I'm not sure
tardy zephyr
For the IPS-N Lord and other mechs that aren't in the .lcp yet, is it just that they haven't been converted to .lcp yet, or are they still in a testing phase?
Well, that answer might vary I guess... but I'm asking specifically about the Lord, in this case.
covert surge
Not testing, we have no test team, im just still cooking
tardy zephyr
Cool, okay! I have a player who might be interested in it, so if they end up taking it, I'll be sure to report back.
Assuming that's wanted, anyway!
indigo gulch
Not testing, we have no test team, im just still cooking
if ya need test players lmk, I'm currently only running an IGF campaign and need more time as a Pilot
🫠
plz I crave Piloting again
indigo grail
same here, id love to try out the Yermak in combat !
indigo gulch
I want to try my Napoleon Brace build
spring creek
igf spoilers|| Im having Ignatius create the Geryon in chapter 5 and Im so hyped for it, also Mind is about to create the rat king||
spring creek
actually for that matter 3/4 my players are using terk mechs. LL1 at the moment so I'll let you know as it goes
covert surge
tardy zephyr
Yeah a lot of my players were pretty interested. We had a potential Lord, Mordred, Brudenell so far.
We're still LL0 though.
wraith birch
Made another Gorshkov build for the new character because I love the Gorshkov. This character will primarily be used for writing and narrative reasons rather than for actual play(hence the weird ass level) but figured I should still share.
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N GORSHKOV 3, SSC Death’s Head 2, SSC Dusk Wing 2, IPS-N DUILIUS 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
All-Theater Movement Suite, Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints, Overpower Caliber
[ TALENTS ]
Infiltrator 3, Serjeant 3, Skirmisher 3, Vanguard 3, Combined Arms 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:2 ENGI:4
STRUCTURE:4 HP:19 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:6
TECH ATK:+2 LIMITED:+2
SPD:6 EVA:10 EDEF:12 SENSE:15 SAVE:16
[ WEAPONS ]
MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Vulture DMR (Carbine Conversion Kit) / Pistol // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints, Overpower Caliber
[ SYSTEMS ]
Total Shutdown, Core Siphon, Hostile Takeover, Core Spike x4, Flicker Field Projector, Spotter Array```I love the Gorshkov. I love the Gorshkov. I love the Gorshkov.
The Carbine Conversion Kit is also immensely cool.
(Kinda wish I could use it on the Kishka's chaingun though.)
Although actually I guess that would be making the stabilizer kinda redundant.
hushed fieldBOT
Sorry I never saw this, but.. Yeah that makes sense. That's a good frame idea, I might knick it!
NP#8442 ↩️
indigo grail
Sorry I never saw this, but.. Yeah that makes sense. That's a good frame idea, I...
Nice!
hushed fieldBOT
I'm calling it the Date, after both the moth and the Japanese clan.
indigo grail
as in you get a "date" with the ground by being smashed into it
hushed fieldBOT
Well I actually got here through the Hattori clan.
indigo grail
ooooh, nice!
indigo grail
so, how is Yermak cooking?
indigo grail
sooo i noticed something with the Dragontail's dispersal sytem trait and.......
[ LICENSES ]
SSC DRAGONTAIL 2, HA Barbarossa 3, HA Genghis 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Superheavy Mounting, Superior by Design
[ TALENTS ]
Nuclear Cavalier 3, Siege Specialist 3, Grease Monkey 3
[ STATS ]
HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
STRUCTURE:4 HP:23 ARMOR:0
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:12 REPAIR:7
TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+2
SPD:5 EVA:10 EDEF:6 SENSE:10 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: Thermobaric Cloud Deployment Rail
Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun
SUPERHEAVY MOUNT: Siege Cannon
AUX/AUX MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Mortar / Flare Gun
[ SYSTEMS ]
Explosive Vents, External Ammo Feed, Pattern-A Smoke Charges x5, Armament Redundancy, Personalizations```The Rat King can create multiple Sputnik drones even if it only has one mount, right?
spring creek
yes
winged hamlet
Nice, thanks
winged hamlet
Do sputnik drone attacks count for talents like Gunslinger 3?
covert surge
no
the drone dont have talents, only you, so only talent that specifically target drone works
spring creek
we need a talent like technophile for drones
indigo grail
so like black spot laser
winged hamlet
Nice, thanks for the clarification
indigo grail
also curious, how long is the Yermak going to be cooking before its ready to join its brethren in Terk Mech and Tech?
winged hamlet
Sorry, one last quick question on the Rat King, the Salvager Drones say they carry one repair charge and that they can spend it to heal an allied mech or drone. How do they replenish that one repair charge?
Also do sputnik drones reload their weapons when you reload yours?
covert surge
the next one is Phasma which is sent to Blue
so probably after Phasma
sputnik cant take loading weapon
no displacer for u
repair charge dont replen
winged hamlet
Ok, so I can't use hand cannons and the salvager drone can repair once a mission, thanks for the help!
indigo grail
sounds good, so we get a ghosty boi in the meantime
raven socket
Looks like probably (hopefully (maybe)) tomorrow for finishing off the phasma, been busy today and quite tired >.>
Sorry about the delay
ornate verge
It's cool you've been pumping out amazing lcps over and over. Take care of yourself
indigo grail
yeah, seeing the art and the concepts behind the art have been amazing, if you need time for rest, take it
queen jasper
what is the system trauma described in Yermak's Chop Shop?
sweet marsh
presumably the effect from structure damage, where one random system or weapon is destroyed?
tha'ts why it clarifies "this can't become a direct hit", because normally if you run out of weapons or systems to destroy on a structure check it falls back to direct hit (stun/destroyed)
(i didn't write that but i assume that's the intention since the terms are the same)
queen jasper
hhh based
ok
ahhh this guy
Yermak is awesome
Up there with Togo and Dagon for my favourite Tech Mech Frames
covert surge
yeah that
cerulean smelt
Had a player absolutely pop off with Hastur today
In the middle of a bossfight, they got grappled and immediately used Yellow Signal to create data constructs to teleport out
Ended up confusing the absolute shit out of the siege boss
covert surge
You cannot grasp the true form
cerulean smelt
Altogether my players have been having such a blast with your mechs, truly a staple now
raven socket
You love to hear it ^^
wraith birch
Still on the look out for that Atlas alt. 👀
hushed fieldBOT
Hey, question about the Heruka's Dual Fist system: Does it trigger on Improvised Attack crits?
covert surge
yes
indigo grail
I wonder how many 3rd party content multi attack energy weapons are out there?
summer swallow
Trying to reach self-knockback critical mass with sueliman
What do yall recommend
Hitting self with stormbringer sounds great
summer swallow
titanomachy mesh sully is fucking hilarious
tardy zephyr
Is my understanding of Curled Up on Sully correct that if you had Titanomachy Mesh you could technically make three Rams back to back? (Ram quick action -> fly into something -> Rolling Thunder -> Titanomachy)? Not that you may want to, just, you could.
covert surge
i mean i guess yeah not sure why you would do that but yes
ornate verge
So I'm just going to say this once the Duilius and the Tortuga are bash brothers in perpetuity. Because dear God don't ask me why it just works. I was testing out the Duilius for the party and I got buddy buddy with the Tortuga pilot man, they didn't stand a chance between me. Stunning the other loving s*** out of everything and him siege ramming and shotgunning everything I stunned
covert surge
Lore accurate
wraith birch
Lore-Accurate Trunk Security Breacher Team
summer swallow
Bash brothers
covert surge
summer swallow
TRUE
indigo grail
.......
ENKIDU CAN THROW PLASMA TALONS
[ LICENSES ]
HA Tokugawa 2, HORUS GERYON 1, SSC PAINTED LADY 3, IPS-N Lancaster 3, SSC Metalmark 2, SSC Mourning Cloak 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Gyges Frame, Improved Armament, Integrated Weapon, All-Theater Movement Suite
[ TALENTS ]
Hunter 3, Nuclear Cavalier 3, Spaceborn 3, Skirmisher 3, Ace 3
[ STATS ]
HULL:6 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:6
STRUCTURE:4 HP:28 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:14 REPAIR:8
TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+3
SPD:4 EVA:10 EDEF:8 SENSE:5 SAVE:16
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: Plasma Talons
Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun
INTEGRATED WEAPON: Cosmic Knife
FLEX MOUNT: Fold Knife / Cutter MkII Plasma Torch
FLEX MOUNT: Fold Knife / Cutter MkII Plasma Torch
FLEX MOUNT: TH2 Tomahawk / Shock Knife
[ SYSTEMS ]
Rail Accelerator, Deep Well Heat Sink, External Batteries, Armament Redundancy, Flash Charges x5```I have made improvements
[ LICENSES ]
HA Tokugawa 2, HORUS GERYON 1, SSC PAINTED LADY 3, IPS-N Lancaster 3, SSC Metalmark 2, SSC Mourning Cloak 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Gyges Frame, Improved Armament, Integrated Weapon, Kai Bioplating
[ TALENTS ]
Hunter 3, Nuclear Cavalier 3, Spaceborn 3, Skirmisher 3, Ace 3
[ STATS ]
HULL:6 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:6
STRUCTURE:4 HP:28 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:14 REPAIR:8
TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+3
SPD:4 EVA:10 EDEF:8 SENSE:5 SAVE:16
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: Plasma Talons
Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun
INTEGRATED WEAPON: Cosmic Knife
FLEX MOUNT: Fold Knife / Cutter MkII Plasma Torch
FLEX MOUNT: TH2 Tomahawk / Cutter MkII Plasma Torch
FLEX MOUNT: TH2 Tomahawk / Shock Knife
[ SYSTEMS ]
Rail Accelerator, Deep Well Heat Sink, External Batteries, Type-I Flight System```So I got a question for you lot. I got a player who is combining 3 licenses for a LL12 one shot. He's using the Nemesis from Iridia(high speed melee flyer hit and run) and has the Comet from Suldan(think high speed flying Nexus and support shenanigans) and wants to combine all that with a Terk Mech. You got thoughts?
covert surge
brudenell is a another high speed melee so that might work
cosmic steppe
dear lord. Mixing homebrew always gets dicey. I wish you luck in dealing with the resulting monster
ornate verge
Tis the plan. I mean it's going to be an all out war scenario, two train heists, a hostage rescue, and finally to cap it all off depending on how things go a 5vs5vs5.
So I have it planned
spring creek
I feel the fear. I have terk, advanced combat, and intercorp and I already feel like it’s too much (but I’m always looking at the other horizons)
indigo gulch
I feel the fear. I have terk, advanced combat, and intercorp and I already feel ...
glances at piles of like 5-8 homebrews I'm currently having on the table
Yeeeaaaaaah I am still trimming things down
ornate verge
I got a whole slew of em. And honestly it's been working out fine. Though to be fair I've always been mister insano DM. So it comes in handy.
Always fun to see what insanity my players come up with. I got one who combined balor gorshkov and metal mark. And that one is freaking weird. But I can manage since while he has a shite tone of Regen and HP no real armor and there are more then a slew of ways with dealing with invis and hidden.
spring creek
It helps that I’m limiting intercorp to being plot related stuff. The impact dynamics Heracles, for example. That said, 3 of my players have terk builds lined up and I’m terrified. A rat king, a painted lady, and a Frundsburg
ornate verge
I love intercorp. Got a player who plays the #notshiroemiya mech and loves it
hushed fieldBOT
Our table is gloriously messy. It's TM&T, Iridia (sort of), Crisis Core, Suldan, and whatever some of our players come up with. :3
Plastered (He/him) ↩️
pliant token
I am biased but I'm going to recommend they check out Waffenfabrik Zalewski a.k.a. "what if the company that made AT-ATs for the Empire in Star Wars got taken over by Elon Musk"
tardy zephyr
Does the Goldstreak have stats at all? I know some of the ones listed on the doc have unlinked stats, like Yermak and Lord.
covert surge
Nope its last on the list and tbh outside of like 3 ideas i have no idea what to do with GS
We’ll get there when we get there
tardy zephyr
No worries, yeah, I was just curious. Thanks!
winged hamlet
How would you guys use the Kishka? I can see it’s basic role as an air support mech but it just feels weird that it’s integrated weapon gives enemies soft cover and that all in-license weapons are inaccurate. May just be me though
winter temple
it does have a function that allows it to turn soft cover into dangerous areas
I don't remember what its system does (Aerosol Whitewash ???) that basically causes soft cover to burn enemies in it
also firing through soft cover gives difficulty
open ginkgo
So basicallly denies them cover
hybrid ledge
it also can do silly things with chaingun
empty condor
Is uhhh
Is Heruka's FIST OF THE GOD MOON invade option and Brawler 2 supposed to work together?
summer swallow
what if sully's carry handle stuck your mech to the side of an ally instead of occupying the same space
you could have them run past an enemy and smack them with you :)
rolling thunder'd
winged hamlet
A fundamental misunderstanding of bowling and a hilarious combat tactic
empty condor
He punch the fuck out of you from afar
That's a lil' strong don't you think
covert surge
Heruka is high up on the list to be looked at and reworked once I finish all the mech for the supplement
raven socket
I'm also really sorry about the delay on the phasma. Work and scheduled things are wearing pretty hard on me rn
Finally making some progress with all of that, though ^^
rain topaz
Phasmaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
smoky meteor
Literally do not worry. If things are hectic irl then that kinda has to come first y'know?
cosmic steppe
Heruka is high up on the list to be looked at and reworked once I finish all the...
Damn. I like hacky punchy mech
covert surge
mostly cranking down things related to the improv attack
because the difference between no brawler and brawler is so so high
cosmic steppe
Still never got an answer on if you can count lock-on or leadership dice toward blade breaker attack
covert surge
it basically works like Stasis Bolt but melee
if it works for Stasis Bolt it works for bladebreaker
indigo grail
Heruka is high up on the list to be looked at and reworked once I finish all the...
Does this include a potential rework for the Dharmachakra?
foggy solstice
GM: present complicated map with storm conditions and giant chasms to cross What will you do now, kobold-in-a-speed-3-mech?
Me: sets serrated sun to Asteroid Field and begins 3d printing bridges
indigo gulch
When in doubt, summon space rocks
foggy solstice
The orange square is a Gravitic Crush that's about to dump a bunch of jerks directly into the Instant Death Hole
covert surge
when you find memes about your homebrew in the wild is when you know you've made it :P
raven socket
lmaooo
winged hamlet
Caliban Yeeting a Suleiman, the prophecy
ornate verge
Dear god.... I showed that meme to my players and I got an immediate FUCKIT WE BALL from two of them
summer swallow
when you find memes about your homebrew in the wild is when you know you've made...
The BALL
tawdry jungle
Man, punching people over the omninet has never been so great
And the damage is frankly insane
queen jasper
uploading a "broken nose" directly to your headset
spring creek
For the geryon, does minotaur's Banish invade count as multiple instances of "you inflicting heat"?
fresh reef
Made what's pretty much a Bracing build
-- HA ARTHUR @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
HA ARTHUR 3, IPS-N Nelson 2, SSC Metalmark 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints, Heatfall Coolant System
[ TALENTS ]
Executioner 3, Sysop 3, Skirmisher 3
[ STATS ]
HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:2 ENGI:0
STRUCTURE:4 HP:19 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:8 REPAIR:6
TECH ATK:+2 LIMITED:+0
SPD:4 EVA:10 EDEF:10 SENSE:10 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: X-Caliber Plasmacore
FLEX MOUNT: War Pike
HEAVY MOUNT: Clarent (Autonomous Edge Alignment) // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
Armament Redundancy, Full-Chassis Reinforcement, Armor-Lock Plating, Reactive Weave, Ultracharger
Also has a Clarent with Accurate 2/3 ( if Overcharge or Barrage second attack ) and AEA
On a Barrage's second attack, here's the damage distribution in %, assuming d20+grit was enough to hit ( otherwise it's higher )
covert surge
dragonslayer
lament palm
That is such cool Nelson Art
rain topaz
Hot damn
indigo gulch
Nelson continues to be the most slept on mech
I blame the base design being basic and having a bland paintjob
spring creek
I bring you, the retrograde Geryon (big thanks to @neat trail )
indigo gulch
Yooooooooo
neat trail
Here’s a version with the arms outstretched
indigo gulch
Are those dusk wing arms
spring creek
indeed
neat trail
Yeah
indigo gulch
Awesome. I love the kitbashing
spring creek
I see what you were saying about the arms corn its a pain in the ass to make them go inward
tawdry jungle
I blame the base design being basic and having a bland paintjob
I’ll admit it took me a second, but I figured it out eventually. Nelson fucks, like really hard. This frame has a fuck ton of mobility and damage
fresh reef
Just to check something, how exactly does the interaction between Edge of Tomorrow's Quick Action Barrage and Overcharge work ?
Does it consume the charge, or is it free ?
covert surge
consume
would be insane to let you barrage twice and skirmish once in a single turn w 1 OC lol
fresh reef
true
tawdry jungle
am I a fool or is aruthur like, really crazy good
cerulean smelt
From my experience, Arthur feels really great balancewise
Being able to dedicate your turns to support and mobility and dishing out crazy nova damage is 👌
tawdry jungle
And isn’t the mordred practically indestructible?
Like when you get in the fight you just eat like 25+damage and don’t even structure
covert surge
6hp 3 armor 6 evasion is the genghis statline without its immunity to burn
and worse than Drake
indigo gulch
Aight I've been on a streak of making builds for chasis I wouldn't normally touch, see my builds for Squiddar's Shrieker, so here goes an Arthur build. Presenting: Under The Sacred Briars
-- HA ARTHUR @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
HA ARTHUR 3, HA FRUNDSBERG 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Heatfall Coolant System, Overpower Caliber
[ TALENTS ]
Executioner 3, Exemplar 3, Pankrati 3
[ STATS ]
HULL:3 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:3
STRUCTURE:4 HP:17 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:11 REPAIR:5
TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+1
SPD:4 EVA:10 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: X-Caliber Plasmacore
FLEX MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
HEAVY MOUNT: Zweihander // Overpower Caliber
[ SYSTEMS ]
Blade Guard, Full-Chassis Reinforcement, Ultracharger
summer swallow
big sword
indigo gulch
Step One: On down turn, Blade Guard to defend against incoming damage.
Step Two: Use Exemplar and Pankrarti to single out a Priority Target.
Step Three: UNDER THE SAAAACRED BRIAAAAARS, NEVER STOP JUST GOOOOOOOOOOOO. I DON'T CARE HOW MANY MORE SCARS I GEEEEEEEET.
https://youtu.be/wNGTV92Y4O4?si=7ffiStE0eARJcUoq if you aren't blaring this song 24/7 every combat, you're using this build wrong
raven socket
da big spooker
summer swallow
starsector phase ship time
raven socket
If SSC are the Tri-Tachs, are Horus the [REDACTED]?
visual iris
https://i.imgur.com/bBDERHQ.png
One of those looks familiar... 😛
spring creek
I was about to ask where the gundam came from
ornate verge
https://youtu.be/wNGTV92Y4O4?si=7ffiStE0eARJcUoq if you aren't blaring this song...
Ok. Now do a build for the heckin chonker that is Goldlewis.
indigo gulch
Ok. Now do a build for the heckin chonker that is Goldlewis.
I shall grant thine desires
ornate verge
*I shall grant thine desires*
WOOT. Always loved playing either a big behemoth of a build or an all out assault glass cannon at Mach JESUS
indigo gulch
@ornate verge Presenting: I Don't Have To Think About It.
-- HA FRUNDSBERG @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
HA FRUNDSBERG 3, HA BRUDENELL 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Heatfall Coolant System, Superior by Design
[ TALENTS ]
Brutal 3, Juggernaut 3, Nuclear Cavalier 3
[ STATS ]
HULL:6 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:2
STRUCTURE:4 HP:25 ARMOR:2
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:11 REPAIR:7
TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+1
SPD:3 EVA:6 EDEF:6 SENSE:5 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun
MAIN MOUNT: Fusion Pike
MAIN MOUNT: Fusion Pike
HEAVY MOUNT: Chicxulub Heavy Shock Gauntlet (Unbalancing Blow)
[ SYSTEMS ]
Blade Guard, Joint Mobility Recalibration, Breach Shield x4
For when you really just want a motherfucker to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up.
ornate verge
Dear god the absolute unit!
covert surge
@here 👻 SSC - Phasma 👻 is now released to the supplement, a graceful Size 3 colossus that haunts the threshold between reality and intangibility
covert surge
Also because im in a spooky mood
spring creek
I love it because every five minutes it gives my dm a headache
delicate leaf
So what do you think would be worse? A lick and a Phasma on the same side, or on opposite sides?
indigo grail
So what do you think would be worse? A lick and a Phasma on the same side, or on...
......... have the Candula working with the Phasma
and the lich fighting said duo
raven socket
Also because im in a spooky mood
Dope as hell 👌
tawdry jungle
-- HA MORDRED @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
HA ARTHUR 3, IPS-N Nelson 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Heatfall Coolant System, Sloped Plating
[ TALENTS ]
Executioner 3, Nuclear Cavalier 3, Ace 3
[ STATS ]
HULL:2 AGI:2 SYS:4 ENGI:0
STRUCTURE:4 HP:13 ARMOR:4
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:7 REPAIR:5
TECH ATK:+5 LIMITED:+0
SPD:4 EVA:8 EDEF:14 SENSE:5 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun
FLEX MOUNT: War Pike
HEAVY MOUNT: Clarent
[ SYSTEMS ]
Full-Chassis Reinforcement, Type-I Flight System, Ramjet, Bulwark Mods
For when you want to get in the fight as fast as possible and never get out
indigo gulch
-- HA MORDRED @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
HA ARTHUR 3, IPS-N Nelson 3
[ CORE BONUSES...
Ah yes, the sacred technique of stage diving
winged hamlet
Is that Atlas alt with the sand constructs going to be part of the main LCP eventually?
hardy citrus
Oh I completely forgot about that, that thing was cool
Did we ever even get art for it?
winter temple
spooky dave's big brother (or sister?) is here woohoo
now I wanna make a phasma pilot
holy cungadero a system that allows me to grapple as an Overwatch?
queen jasper
VERY cool
A very fun looking way to tank, by just grabbing a mfer and taking them into [beyond?]
[where is it going where is it going where is it]
hardy citrus
found it again
hardy citrus
actually yea now that i found it, do we think we might down the line (literally no rush on it, im moreso curious than anything) see it in the lcp?
tawdry jungle
man I'd love to get in the pilot seat behind a couple of these frames in a game
it's a shame that people basically never allow 3rd party stuff despite it usually being way cooler
and often times fills a niche better than in the original game
(this is just an excuse me for to play Arthur)
lapis glacier
I'm like on the weird flipside of this of "I kind of want to allow these in my game, but also I'm a new GM and want to get to grips with "vanilla" before I go wild"
tardy zephyr
meanwhile I need to actively slap my own hand to stop adding more homebrew, as GM
tawdry jungle
meanwhile I need to actively slap my own hand to stop adding more homebrew, as G...
There’s never enough
Also someone wrote earlier about an Arthur/Genghis build
I went looking, and I’m just curious as to why
indigo grail
so, looking at the beam diffuser mod and remembering how it was before and after
Im wondering if needing the weapon's line/range to be past 20 for cone 7 is so necessary for so many weapons
the energy requirement, added heat, and system cost on top of needing to go past 10 range/line is necessary for ensuring some weapons don't get massive cones but
wait
its the Tokugawa isn't it
that frame, and external batteries extend range like no ones buissness
Siege stablizers as well can too but cone means it kind of gets messed up in that aspect
meanwhile external batteries can add on a entire 5 range
cerulean smelt
-- SSC Phasma @ LL6 -- [ LICENSES ] IPS-N Zheng 3, SSC Phasma 3 [ CORE BONUSES ] Titanomachy Mesh, Superheavy Mounting [ TALENTS ] Brawler 3, Vanguard 3, Executioner 3 [ STATS ] HULL:4 AGI:4 SYS:0 ENGI:0 STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:1 STRESS:4 HEATCAP:6 REPAIR:5 TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+0 SPD:7 EVA:12 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:13 [ WEAPONS ] SUPERHEAVY MOUNT: D/D 288 FLEX MOUNT: Blade Mantle MAIN MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING [ SYSTEMS ] Total Strength Suite III, Total Strength Suite II, Articulation Sync, Interjection Weave x3
Behold, The Ghost of Xiaoli
foggy solstice
cosmic steppe
`-- SSC Phasma @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N Zheng 3, SSC Phasma 3
[ CORE BONUSE...
Punchum into the shadow dimension
summer swallow
EVIL sheep
fresh reef
Autostab Autonomous Edge Alignement Clarent is funny
summer swallow
stabbing
rustic bane
hello all, taking a peak at this one cause i love hte idea of expanding the OG roster, wanted to ask if there was a community sense on balance against core and published?
winter temple
-- IPS-N Tortuga @ LL6 -- [ LICENSES ] IPS-N Tortuga 2, IPS-N Caliban 1, SSC Phasma 2, SSC Dusk Wing 1 [ CORE BONUSES ] Fomorian Frame, Integrated Nerveweave [ TALENTS ] Vanguard 3, Orator 2, Hacker 2, Combined Arms 1, Brawler 1 [ STATS ] HULL:2 AGI:4 SYS:2 ENGI:0 STRUCTURE:4 HP:17 ARMOR:2 STRESS:4 HEATCAP:6 REPAIR:7 TECH ATK:+3 LIMITED:+0 SPD:5 EVA:10 EDEF:12 SENSE:15 SAVE:13 [ WEAPONS ] MAIN MOUNT: Blade Mantle HEAVY MOUNT: Heavy Charged Blade [ SYSTEMS ] Articulation Sync, Neurospike, Type-3 Projected Shield, Personalizations, Phase Charges x3
need a better IPSN for that 1 LL for Fomorian
also giant boye that charges in, wedges itself into the doorway, and yoinks anyone who tries to run
also hacks in case of emergency
wraith birch
hello all, taking a peak at this one cause i love hte idea of expanding the OG r...
I believe the general idea is that it's balanced fairly well, but would need a little more testing to confirm.
rustic bane
I believe the general idea is that it's balanced fairly well, but would need a l...
tyty
indigo grail
welp I just made a build'
[ LICENSES ]
SSC PAINTED LADY 2, IPS-N Raleigh 2, IPS-N Tortuga 2, SSC Metalmark 3, HA ARTHUR 1, HA Sherman 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints, Overpower Caliber, Gyges Frame, Heatfall Coolant System
[ TALENTS ]
Hunter 3, Nuclear Cavalier 3, Spaceborn 3, Grease Monkey 2, Duelist 2, Skirmisher 2
[ STATS ]
HULL:6 AGI:0 SYS:2 ENGI:6
STRUCTURE:4 HP:28 ARMOR:0
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:12 REPAIR:6
TECH ATK:+3 LIMITED:+3
SPD:5 EVA:10 EDEF:12 SENSE:10 SAVE:16
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: "RedRose" Guided Javelin Array
Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun
AUX/AUX MOUNT: Shock Knife / Shock Knife
FLEX MOUNT: Catalytic Hammer (Shock Wreath) // Overpower Caliber, Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
“Roland” Chamber, Rail Accelerator, Data Cloak, Armament Redundancy, Reactor Stabilizer, Ultracharger```data cloak could honestly be switched for something better, but other than that, I feel really good about this build!
covert surge
tyty
There's also a self-admited gradient from the earliest mech to the latest ones as I get a better handle on balancing, wording and general game sense :P
rustic bane
Noted, I love the art and concepts, Im mostly hesitant because i already play with loads of 3rd party, and i might explode my player's brains
fresh reef
Just a 7it of incomprehension, for the Arthur's Servo Overcharge, the heat occurs during the turn where it does not move, or during the turn where it uses the Free action boost ?
covert surge
when it uses the boost
fresh reef
Thanks !
cosmic steppe
How much testing is actually done on the frames and systems? I see people post stuff in here occasionally (I have as well), but there doesn’t seem to be a ton of testing unless it’s all behind the scenes. That doesn’t mean it’s not balanced of course, I just dun know for sure
Hopefully my lancer group and I will be able to help since we are rapidly approaching a full terk mech team
covert surge
the feedback from people running the game is the testing data, we are both very busy people 😔
cosmic steppe
Yeah that’s totally fair
It seems in line with base stuff at least.
Can’t wait to see how wide I can bust open the th2 tomahawk though
covert surge
The old version let you throw it like 30 times or someshit because i forgot you can just throw it while 1 space away from the opponent and then insta pick up when it lands next to you
Hopefully this version is clamped enough tho it is meant to be a bit strong for being ll3
rustic bane
It seems in line with base stuff at least.
I never have any expectation for 3p to balance against the wider content environment, there's just too much out there. Really the main balance targets are the core and published materials imo
cosmic steppe
Yeah even when limited to 3 pick-ups it seems good. Get accuracy on agility save from hunter 1 and ace 1, then skirmish to throw 4 axes with integrated mount and hunt 3. Iff spoof or ram first to get accuracy on attacks.
Ll4 you pick up dual fist and dear lord you have a good chance of crit ting so you’ll likely get to improvised attack then
And have seven star suite if person has armor
spring creek
Idk if I've said this before in this chat, but the fun thing about homebrew is that you're put up to so much scruitiny compared to base game material. If anybody created the impaler nailgun today they'd be laughed out of homebrew chat, but we accept it because it's just the way the "canon" stuff is
cosmic steppe
Yeah that is fair. There is quite a bit of broken stuff in base rules
rustic bane
tbf to the base game, it was actually put through a fairly large volume of scrutiny, and went through multiple iterations
it didn't spring whole cloth as the iteration you can access now
winter temple
I remember something about Tokugawa needing to be at 2 Stress in order to unlock its kit once upon a time
(rather than just exposed)
(there was also something about a scrapped core bonus that could turn a mount into a heavy mount)
cosmic steppe
tbf to the base game, it was actually put through a fairly large volume of scrut...
While that is true, it does include some real cursed bullshit like didymos + stay of execution
There are ways to create absolutely busted builds in regular lancer
And honestly, the base GMS mechs are still ridiculous as ever
rustic bane
Which should be an indication that even under enormous scrutiny, things that might be seen as enormously imbalanced can slip through. 3rd party is the same
and i would say a great deal of 3p content, for better or worse, gets scrutinized less and tested less, for completely understandable reasons
cosmic steppe
Very true
fresh reef
Just had an Arthur ON turn
As in, double X-Caliber
Total damage ? 48, thanks to the enemy being an Ultra, Exposed due to stress. Missed both Executioner 1 and 3 attacks, though, but the witch used for them took the Executioner damage
covert surge
“80,000 blows are struck at once. Leaving no space that is not a sword. Men and horses will be split in two. And the land will be put to waste. Since there is nowhere to evade- be they man or immortal- all will be cut- and be slain instantly."
cosmic steppe
Ravana Hack 6 Billion Grunts
summer swallow
can't see some of the images on the new version of the lcp
raven socket
can't see some of the images on the new version of the lcp
Which ones? I thought I fixed all of those
Are you running 0.15.1.0?
Wait what the heck
Did imgur drop my images again
indigo gulch
yeah CompCon is being weird for HES&H, it turned by Bright and Dark colors to white
and Wazal is having issues too
summer swallow
dang...
indigo gulch
so it seems something is up
raven socket
Can you all grab the new version and see if it's fixed?
@summer swallow @indigo gulch
indigo gulch
on it!
summer swallow
now on my end, unfortunately
raven socket
0.15.2.0?
raven socket
fitting tbh
indigo gulch
eheh
indigo gulch
currently having to fix my own HES&H lcp, gimme like 5 minutes then I'll check
raven socket
👍
indigo gulch
Dagon has returned from the depths
raven socket
excellent
But yeah
I fixed that like
four days ago
But apparently my changes weren't actually in the LCP???
It's because you can't use discord for image hosting anymore
All the frames from before I switched to imgur lost their pics
vale horizon
yeah that's what happened with wazal too, it was linking the manufacturer logo from discord
so when that broke the formatting went bonkers
dusky parrot
on my machine it's even better, the formating for the Wazal section gets worse each time I actualize
hardy citrus
Did imgur drop my images again
I just saw a combo about this in wazal
Evidentally imgur doesnt allow hotlinking
raven socket
I just saw a combo about this in wazal
Ughhh
spring creek
Is this a new issue with imgur?
indigo gulch
I just saw a combo about this in wazal
That might just be for the SVG file needed for the logo, cuz Imgur is working fine on my end
hardy citrus
It's against their terms and services if I remember correctly
I've had this issue with them in the past as well a while back but didn't know why
hardy citrus
Yea I think this is a fairly newer thing
rustic bane
without any notification
raven socket
So now I need to figure out a new image hosting solution
cerulean smelt
that's really annoying huh :/
queen jasper
It's because you can't use discord for image hosting anymore
why not?
raven socket
why not?
Change they made to how links are handled
The links now expire after a while
rustic bane
i think i have a player looking at playin the geryon next mission
any thoughts/advice/pointers i should pass his way?
spring creek
Find ways to attack with cosmic knife as many times as possible
queen jasper
have a high heat cap and switch to sun mode when you're close to danger zone
is probably the "base" way to play it
covert surge
the asteroid mode is way more versatile than you think :P
make a bridge, make a wall, put an enemy in time out by half circling them etc
and dont be afraid to OC, the mech is partially built around OC to get a support action into turns where you shoot the SH
tawdry jungle
All else fails, NuCav Op Cal
spring creek
oh no thats a given
you can also use minotaur's Banish to make an enemy absolutely not move
rustic bane
my player wants to do artillery/explodo things
is that a thing?
he cant mod the wormhole obv
foggy solstice
I have been loving the Geryon/Tukha combo. It's super fun to play, I love the heat shenanigans, and oh man the Serrated Sun is just the best for playing with
rustic bane
What are some weaknesses I should think about for them?
Or it, as a frame?
I'm guessing it doesn't like to be heatgunned
covert surge
its ok at gettin heatgunned, 6 HC is alright
speed 3 is the main thing you are fighting against, same as other "pretty good stat but speed 3" frame
actually speaking of Geryon has anyone used Reverse Thermodynamic? Looking at it again I might remove the cost and just have be 1/per rest to reduce OC counter
indigo grail
How does Overpower Caliber work with the flare gun?
strong jackal
bonus damage cannot be burn; it would default to kinetic damage
so you'd end up with a 1 burn weapon that does 1d6 kinetic bonus damage 1/round
indigo grail
Gotcha
Also the Storte's renewal reload also procs the flare gun's reload, correct?
strong jackal
don't see why it wouldn't!
vale horizon
yeah it should work same as any other loading aux. if it reloads the hand cannon it'll reload the flare gun
indigo grail
So, important question
Does Rail accelerator give thrown to melee weapons that don't already have thrown?
fresh reef
Does Rail accelerator give thrown to melee weapons that don't already have throw...
Can't be clearer than the text
indigo grail
Thank you, I just wanted to make sure it worked like I thought it did
ornate verge
Can't be clearer than the text
I'm instantly remembering an OMDI mech that effectively punches so hard it teleports it's fists into its targets and just had the thought of combining those two
raven socket
Can't be clearer than the text
I should change super heavy to superheavy
I am a perfectionist so seeing any flaw in the text is like
grrrr
foggy solstice
Geryon's signature visual is a ring of hands around the dimensional payload, right?
spring creek
Yes
rustic bane
Hmm so as far as the geryon, what are some good license combo's? Player will be ll9. I'm thinking some HA, maybe toku or Sherman, enough to get a core bonus. After that I'm not totally sure
uncut sonnet
I wonder how many people have noticed the Diulius' flavor in the compendium is a fucking voiceline from the Dozer in Payday 2 lol
OH MY GOD THE GORSHKOV IS A FROGMAN THAT'S SO COOL
God the Gorshkov fucks
I love it
the Tukhachevsky is also quite good
love the idea of augmenting hacks by devoting more processing power thus generating more heat
vale horizon
yeah the idea of a hacking mech that's just an extremely high-powered brute force machine is very fun imo
ornate verge
I wonder how many people have noticed the Diulius' flavor in the compendium is a...
Can absolutely confirm that is the intended play style. Especially when you get buddy buddy with your local Tortuga and caliban mains. It's go time all the time.
summer swallow
The whole body is bulletproof
hushed fieldBOT
It's probably not anything revolutionary, but.. I have realised that the Duilius pairs like, crazy well with the Drake license.
uncut sonnet
man the Arthur is so cool
ornate verge
It's probably not anything revolutionary, but.. I *have* realised that the Duili...
I've seen someone combine it with the Drake and the Tortuga and it was just a freaking brick wall
uncut sonnet
Makes me wanna try my hand at an SSC albatross mech
ornate verge
If you're going to do SSC and albatross, try the ossifrage/harpyja and make the artillery mech from hell by combining it with death head
uncut sonnet
lol
covert surge
hardy citrus
😭😭😭
raven socket
lmaooo
indigo gulch
truly the Arthur of all time
rain topaz
HA
steep pebble
Venom Snake:
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N GORSHKOV 3, IPS-N Blackbeard 1, IPS-N Zheng 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Gyges Frame, Reinforced Frame
[ TALENTS ]
Brawler 3, Infiltrator 3, Hunter 3
[ STATS ]
HULL:2 AGI:2 SYS:2 ENGI:2
STRUCTURE:4 HP:18 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:8 REPAIR:5
TECH ATK:+2 LIMITED:+1
SPD:6 EVA:10 EDEF:12 SENSE:15 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Assault Rifle / Tactical Knife
[ SYSTEMS ]
Synthetic Muscle Netting, Total Strength Suite II, Manipulators, Spotter Array, Core Spike x3, Hostile Takeover```@covert surge @raven socket
raven socket
lmaooo
steep pebble
steep pebble
please no miss(?) phasma
'Please let it be a normal SITREP...'
'With the Phazz? No way!'
raven socket
'Please let it be a normal SITREP...'
'With the Phazz? No way!'
Absolutely never
gloomy needle
I may be missing something, but is Painted Lady LL1 not absurdly strong? IFF Spoof seems insane- making an enemy locked on for a whole turn cycle (which can basically be two if you activate first and then last), all for a Quick Tech, (which will also trigger a free attack and then a free move on the Painted Lady itself), seems really strong. It puts an unconditional Accurate on all attacks made against them and potentially more effects for consuming the lock-on, which are usually quite good as it's typically somewhat hard to come by. Comparing it to the Swallowtail's Markerlight, its almost certainly as strong, potentially stronger- But Markerlight is a Full Tech. And after all that, it only costs 1 SP.
The Blackjack Cabbled Dagger isnt quite as bad, being somewhat of a better Cable Winch System in exchange for a main weapon slot, but since it keeps them from taking a move that would bring them further than the distance you hit them, but you can move as long as you stay in threat, this does have the capability to keep people from moving at all if you hit them up close and then back up as much as possible. Depending on the interpetation, they either a- cannot move at all, as it would have to step to a space that exceeds the limit, or b- it can move as long as it ends its move next to you, but a Speed 3 mech cannot do that , which means your "tether" is somehow holding them completely in place? And all that is ignoring that you can cut their E-Defense in half, which is really strong on its own, and comes paired with possibly the strongest tech attack around.
The Painted Lady itself seems fine, and the rest of the LL seems balanced (Though Rail Accelerator could probably just give thrown 5 instead of 5+threat for simplicity?) but it feels like LL1 just has so much going for it.
God, I've just imagined a Goblin with IFF Spoof and Spotter.... thats gotta be some kind of ethics violation
Have I lost my mind?
calm tulip
Just came here to say that man is the Gorshkov cool
covert surge
Im going to reword the dagger someday the intention is basically a lasso. The target cant move such that the distance between you two increase so they can still go in a circle around you
And IFF 🤷 when i pitched it originally to home-brew design they want it buffed to where it is now
gloomy needle
May I ask what it was originally?
covert surge
Part of an invade system so 2sp, invade so heat and triggers
Invade does have some nutty stuff in there at early ll like h0r_os and Viral Logic
But ill think abt it, its a pretty early designed frame
gloomy needle
I think a potential solution is it has to be removed a number of times- maybe 1d3, 1d3+1?
Having a sticky lock is very cool, "Infinite" is just a lot of times to go off, especially if it cant be cleansed
Maybe full-action, lock-on forever until they stabalize, or beat a quick-action system check?
I dunno. I love alternative lock on methods. I just... would like to use them without feeling bad about it?
covert surge
My thinking is System save when lock-on consumed, on fail lock on re-established
gloomy needle
Ooh, I like that
That would definitely fix it. If youre really (un)lucky or have had your systems guttered, you're stuck in Lock-On hell
vale horizon
i don't think it seems that egregious, especially when stuff like the aforementioned hor0s 1 and viral logic suite are just chillin in the core book
vale horizon
it's pretty juiced yeah lol
gloomy needle
Oh, second thought while I'm here: should the Dragontail's crossbow be moved to LL2? I playtested one the other day at LL3 and boy did it feel like it needed that thing to operate
I havent actually played it at 2, but it feels like with only it's flare guns it would struggle to accumulate enough Burn to make Moth to a Flame feel good to use
covert surge
I guess i could switch the crossbow and moth position in the ll
gloomy needle
I dunno man I'm just sayin things, please take everything I say with a grain of salt I suffer from chronic dumb
The idea of a person I look up to taking me seriously is terrifying
cosmic steppe
I'd say compare IFF spoof to the chom knock prone. If timed right its just worse than the base chom system
Not benefitting off of invade is right I think
gloomy needle
Ya know, thats a good point
cosmic steppe
Being 2 system points is maybe reasonable. But compared to HOR-OS 1 its just not as goo an effect. I figured it was meant to pair with the Tomohawks at ll3
gloomy needle
Perhaps I have just grossly underestimated the value of existing Quick Tech actions
Im mostly just concerned about it being able to fulfil Lock On buffs for the entire party
If it's staying on the Painted Lady its fine
But. I can easily be wrong
hardy citrus
Perhaps I have just grossly underestimated the value of existing Quick Tech acti...
Yeah, base game Lancer has a lot of really wild quick tech options
covert surge
summer swallow
Brilliant
wraith birch
Lmao
covert surge
wraith birch
"If Harrison Armory didn't want me to abuse the reactor to become the speed demon I was always meant to be, then why did they give it to me at all?"
-Most Normal Brudenell Pilot
open ginkgo
Again, I love how all of the frames have characther/very much have a game plan that you can tell from looking at them
indigo gulch
it is one of my fav things about the Terk licesnes
uncut sonnet
I am still intensely jealous of Terk succeeding at translating albatross vibes to an HA frame
Fuck the Arthur is so cool
fresh reef
I wonder how a HORUS Albatross frame would look like
I feel like there's bound to be a cell or two willing to put the effort in at no cost, if the organisation simply asked
covert surge
not all Alba frame has to be striker some are banner bearers :3
uncut sonnet
I wonder how a HORUS Albatross frame would look like
I feel like there's bound ...
Boy I'm glad you ask I'd totally post a wip if this was general homebrew and not Terk's chat XDDDDD
fresh reef
Feel free to ping me if you ever post it somewhere
spring creek
Cute lil frundsburg token
shut patrol
Friendsburg
indigo grail
So, question on the Rat King's core frame trait, does it let you use a non super heavy weapon on any Drone you have?
indigo grail
NVM, figured out a Sputnik Drone is a specific drone
indigo grail
but can you fire the weapon from the drone?
raven socket
but can you fire the weapon from the drone?
Only via Target Acquired
indigo grail
Only via Target Acquired
So the Uncle doesn't work as intended on it?
raven socket
So the Uncle doesn't work as intended on it?
Would need to refer to @covert surge on weapon mods
covert surge
Only way means only way, same as autopod, can’t uncle it
rustic bane
Uncle can shoot your weapon that's on your mech though, presumably
covert surge
yeah, the weapon on your mech function as usual, the weapon on the drone can only be fired through Target Acquired
winter temple
Burst Launcher Rat King
rustic bane
can you shoot yourself with a veil rifle on the sputnik drone?
covert surge
Yes
rustic bane
haha jokes on you bad guys, soft cover for me, damage for you
wraith birch
I would like to note that the images for a lot of mechs in TMT is broken.
raven socket
I would like to note that the images for a lot of mechs in TMT is broken.
Have you updated to 0.15.2.0?
wraith birch
I'll check.
raven socket
I fixed it in that version.
wraith birch
Got it, thanks.
winged hamlet
The Gorshkov and Kishka are the soft cover brothers, so I had the thought, what if you put them together with intent to create the most annoying controller you can never hit
-- IPS-N GORSHKOV @ LL6 -- [ LICENSES ] IPS-N GORSHKOV 3, IPS-N Kishka 2, SSC Emperor 1 [ CORE BONUSES ] Sloped Plating, Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints [ TALENTS ] Centimane 3, Infiltrator 3, Skirmisher 2, Walking Armory 1 [ STATS ] HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2 STRUCTURE:4 HP:17 ARMOR:2 STRESS:4 HEATCAP:8 REPAIR:6 TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+1 SPD:6 EVA:10 EDEF:10 SENSE:15 SAVE:14 [ WEAPONS ] MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Bolt Nexus / EMBER Thermobaric Nexus // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints [ SYSTEMS ] Aerosolized Whitewash, Core Spike x3, Sapper Kit x4, Targeting Beacon, Dominion's Breadth, Active Scanner
hardy citrus
(Tagging @visual iris so im not talking about something she said/showed without her knowledge, felt it wouldnt be fair)
Saw her Unicorn pegasus alt and how easy it was to handle having more than 3 mounts on a mech on comp-con, and made me think of a lot of the convos and pondering on how lord could work on comp-con
I should emphasize I constantly think about the IPS-N Lord
uncut sonnet
God I still am so hyped any time I read the Arthur
tardy zephyr
Terk mechs: they're good.
indigo grail
having bolster just add movement is really good
covert surge
now people will actually use bolster :#
vale horizon
sysop arthur...
summer swallow
True
covert surge
Im proud of making it proc both way so you can either be an inspiring leader or have a dedicated squire cheering you on :P
hardy citrus
Okay I put way too much effort into this meme.
But something hit me over the head and spoke to me when I made this
hardy citrus
You've gotta share this in all their channels too
(Oh good reminder, I did it for all the others but forgot to put it in the Wild West channel cuz I'm in the server)
raven socket
Okay I put way too much effort into this meme.
But something hit me over the he...
@covert surge
hybrid ledge
Which is the one on the top left?
spring creek
the names are at the bottom left
open ginkgo
True,but doesn't say which be which
hardy citrus
Top left is the Jani Beg
indigo gulch
Okay I put way too much effort into this meme.
But something hit me over the he...
oh shit Jani Beg got some art
nice
olive wren
how does the rat kings drones work with heat self weapons would it cause the rat king to take the heat or would it cause the drones to take damage because it does not have a heat cap
covert surge
drone take damage
olive wren
OK thanks I really love all of this content I was just making a build with the rat king that had a heat self weapons and wonder which would happen
also how does the salvager drones repair charge work
it says it has one but does it get it back when recalled or does it only get I back after a full repair
covert surge
full repair
of note the RK's drones purposefully lacks a unique tag :V
shell quest
I love the idea of what Mordred aims to do, and want to build one, but other than it being a sort of melee hacker, I seem to be severely confused as to how exactly one is supposed to utilise A Mort... it really seems better to just skirmish normally?