Terk Mech & Tech

[rain topaz]

Ah, agitron is from cockpit integrated stimpump

Also had gyges frame

[rain topaz]

I've done it

I've made punch god

Behold the holy text

(My apologies, my handwriting is atrocious)

34 knockback

It only needs 1 turn to setup too

[covert surge]

Send em back to the cradle

[rain topaz]

Your team gets to learn what it sounds like when something goes from completely still to breaking the sound barrier in about a second

It does leave you with 12 heat

If you've maxed out your engineering that leaves you 2 heat leftover

The first turn, you use 1 Quick action to charge the d/d-288

Then your other quick action to boost(you need an agility of atleast 4)

So you can can get the max of 10 kinetic charges you need

(You could also just pop the brudenell's core on the attacking turn, though then you need a very small heat cap, you need to be in the danger zone)

You could actually do that if you put nothing in engineering

Cause you actually take 4 heat outside of the kinetic charge building

But anyway

Next turn

You pop the agitron and ramjet (and core if that's what your aiming for) protocals, attack with the d/d288, spend all your kinetic charges, which are also doubled cause redline thrusters, and your crit

And then, the enemy is no longer an issue

That doesnt mean their dead, it's just that they are someone elses problem

Like the farmer in the next town over

I've put too much though into this

I've also, as I've explained this, been faced with an issue in the build and solved it

Helpful, though unnecessary, additions might be the executioner talent, the nuclear cavalier talent (cause boy howdy will you be in the danger zone), auto-cooler from genghis, and superior by design while your at it

Infact, superior by design would be very good as it also negates the impaired from agitron

Now I wait for the brudenell to be out so I can actually build punch god in comp/con

I think in may think about this game too much

[cerulean smelt]

Aren't you Slowed while the D/D-288 is Charged? Or have you already taken that into account

[covert surge]

You can order it the other way around, boot then charge

[rain topaz]

Yeah

[rain topaz]

And also boosting is unnecessary

Since you can only convert movement into charges once per turn, which I assume means you cant turn both normal movement and boost movement into charges in 1 turn

So you actually need agility 6

So you can move and get 6 charges on first turn, then charge dd288

Wait

[rain topaz]

Nevermind, forgot how slowed works

[raven socket]

Yeet them into the shadow realm

[rain topaz]

I've been reading about metavaults more today (primarily legionnaire), and the folding space environment idea just created the hilarious image of punching someone and they just loop around and keep going over and over

[raven socket]

lmaoo

[rain topaz]

The brudenell single-handedly increases the knockback cap by like 14

Its wonderful

I mean, technically it increases it by exactly 20, but the previous max was 20, and that's if you popped frundsbergs core

Cause I used the threat-to-knockback trait

Whereas with this one the only resource burn is really the stim charges and heat

And also functioning eardrums

[covert surge]

https://tenor.com/view/redline-james-punkhead-nitro-cell-car-racing-gif-16093289

[rain topaz]

That but the engine is my size-2 fist

[wraith birch]

The Brick can fly and make people fly.

Actually, does this count as a less-lethal option since it neutralizes hostile not by killing them but by forcing them to RTB against their will.

[winter temple]

to add to that, Brude also has a system where you can control the knockback so you could send them flying towards an ally, back to base, or just out of reach in general

heck you could even send them behind you if I'm reading Joint Mobility Recalibration correctly

(change knockback to any direction)

wait could you knockback them into the sky?

(probably not but it would be fun)

[wraith birch]

>Looks at a hostile with low movement.
"Man, it took you awfully long for you to get here, would be a shame if you were forced to... walk all the way back here again."

[covert surge]

Still obeying obstruction so knocking back behind you is much more finicky than other direction

[covert surge]

Brain Blast

You take off turn and actions to stack just horrific amount of actions economy and movement onto one turn

[rain topaz]

Terk did you make yet another new mech

[covert surge]

Yes

I have overcharged, 1d6 heat wont stop me

[rain topaz]

Damnit, he has a heatfall coolant system

[raven socket]

"babe it's 4pm, time to make a new mech"

I am too tired to edit the template
But that's how I feel right now lmao

[covert surge]

The gods curse me with the gift of inspiration at midnight

But also this is like

The first pure striker ive made

pls ignore the bolster hook

[terse marsh]

Please STOP making controllers

And make some supports

[raven socket]

The man has a specialty

[covert surge]

I have played tank in every multiplayer game I've got my hands on

CC runs in my blood

[raven socket]

There is the Goldstreak eventually, too

[rain topaz]

True

Interested to see how that one will work

[covert surge]

and Aquilegia

[rain topaz]

Yeah that too

Most interested in phasma, subutai, and lord

[hardy citrus]

Is this a harrison armory mech (assuming its a king arthur, leader, king, namesake) ?

[hardy citrus]

If goldstreak has 1 fan, its me

[alpine kayak]

The Arthur is legit what I had in mind for a mech

[covert surge]

Yeah HA

My giant HA bias is showing

[alpine kayak]

Like actually HA striker support that is a leader and uses bolsters to encourage allies

Amazing

Though personally leaning onto the bolster leader over crazy burst action economy might be easier to balance

[covert surge]

nah Aquilegia is going to be the bolster mech, this one is my attempt at making an actual pure Striker

[winter temple]

Wondering about Charlemagne

[covert surge]

that's boisegang

[winter temple]

Oh

[covert surge]

yeah some of the stuff i draw are just commission for other supplements

[alpine kayak]

Oh what’s the Charlemagne/Boisegang do?

[pliant token]

so all these new mechs, will they be going to this lcp or the next

[covert surge]

all same lcp

[pliant token]

also will we be getting around to the last few left of the original run sometime soon? I was kinda looking forward to kintsugi-mech

and Definitely Not Dead Space™

[covert surge]

Brudenell is already in Nexa's hand

[rain topaz]

Woop

So yermak next?

Once your done with the arthur

[covert surge]

Kishka

[rain topaz]

Ah ok

I flying mech, should be interesting

[covert surge]

hover 2 ipsn boogaloo

[ornate verge]

Sweet black fucking Sabbath. You could send someone to the Aunic Ascendancy with that build

[rain topaz]

Yesh

It's my opus

[raven socket]

Just waiting on me Not Being Busy™️

Need to find some free time to sit down and get it made

[viscid snow]

Huge fan omg

[rain topaz]

I lie in wait for Lord my beloved

[waxen quartz]

Question regarding the Heruka.

How does The Lesson of Thinking-Tomorrow's Thought Core Bonus interact with the Heruka's core Invade options? As well as I think it should?

[cloud lotus]

How many more mechs are you planning?

Also I rennet you made a werewolf mech are you planning on making an lcp for that?

[open ginkgo]

Some of the mechs he made were commisions I think.

[covert surge]

Ttt works like you think it does :)

Werewolf is for boisegang’s supplement

[rain topaz]

Woo, also, my apologies, as I've undoubtably added to the workload of version 12

It will be nice to have a new ips-n frame

SSC and IPS-N havent gotten new frames in a bit

(In terks)

[covert surge]

overcharge

[rain topaz]

There are so many things this could mean and I'm not sure how to feel about any of them

Anyway, I must go be productive

[covert surge]

Ipsn frame that melee people with grenades

https://tenor.com/view/double-double-take-demoman-tf2-take-gif-25671219

…

🤔

🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

[viscid snow]

Ponder that orb

[covert surge]

A boomhammer that you can load a grenade into

https://tenor.com/view/boom-hammer-gaming-dark-souls-gif-16835790

Lesgo

overcharge

[covert surge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellburners

metal as fuck name and fitting for IPSN

[raven socket]

With the currently planned stuff, there should be 21 in total (10 new ones)
There'll be more than that though, since Terk likes to make new stuff pretty frequently

[covert surge]

Like right now

[raven socket]

Indeed

[pliant token]

So Terk

what puts you in your Fey Moods

what do you see or think of in real life that makes you go "there's a lancer mech concept here"

[covert surge]

I just thonk

[pliant token]

https://tenor.com/view/inconceivable-princessbride-impossible-gif-5806265

[covert surge]

I usually have a bunch of ideas floating and occasionally they collide with each other and hey there’s an interesting combination

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L1-42pgy9dqKJS0BKXIAuODFLoaoMC_IwWRt3LmKVH4/edit?usp=sharing

[viscid snow]

I love it

Edge of Tommorow (spectacular movie) is one of my fav concepts like ever

I've had something like it bouncing around my head for ages and I'm so glad to see it happen :)

[sturdy drift]

HA Albatross

you have my attention

[viscid snow]

Who doesn't want their name on a bunch of space heros?

[rain topaz]

How does the Avalon generator fit into the rest of the kit?

[covert surge]

On its off turn it can use it to protect allies and itself from ranged attack, then on its next on turn just zoom forward, through cover, obstruction, mines and reactions, because intangible, to attack targets in melee with impunity since that is in range 3 and thus both are intangible and can hit each other

[rain topaz]

Ah, ok

Dope

[covert surge]

Heck might make it end of next round so it can still benefit from the intangible against enemy attacks on the turn it goes to hit people

[rain topaz]

Honestly I think it's good right now

This is a fairly easy to understand frame, quite good

[covert surge]

Finally

Simple terk frame

One of these day ill manage to parse down a two trait frame

[rain topaz]

Interested to see this

[pliant token]

one of these days I'll get around the finishing the horus ORC, based on the original coinage of the word by 18th century visionary William Blake as the spiritual deific representation of revolution and upheaval

It's a combined arms striker-bolster supporter

because

[forest nymph]

Very interesting that you went with Clarent for the melee weapon, the sword that typically represents peace (Ironically used by Mordred for the coup against Arthur)

[covert surge]

Excalibur is its core already :P

[forest nymph]

Holy shit someone put me down. My tired brain missed that X - caliber is excalibur. I have no idea how I didn't put that together lmao

[covert surge]

[forest nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

[cerulean smelt]

So excited to see what the Arthur looks like

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L1-42pgy9dqKJS0BKXIAuODFLoaoMC_IwWRt3LmKVH4/edit?usp=sharing

now with fluffs

yeah gonna be an interesting challenge to keep the knightly aesthetic while not being too human because HA frames are fridges on legs

except for the Iskandrer, which looks like just-some-guy

[forest nymph]

Big heavy plate armor knight can be a bit fridgey, mountain from GOT in plate aesthetic

[spring creek]

halo spartan armor comes to mind

[covert surge]

Despite its short history, arguments amongst users about the merits of the Terashima Blade and the Clarent is a common sight on the Omninet

the katana vs long sword fight continues in the future

[rain topaz]

I noticed that

[hardy citrus]

Same energy as me making a horus mech that hacks with grenades

Good shit

I love grenades (IN LANCER)

[autumn crescent]

Is that going with the Morgan? Feels right for an already explosive themed concept

[covert surge]

grenade hammer

off the top of my head, up in the air if I wanna turn this into an actual liscense or not

[rain topaz]

Seems interesting

[covert surge]

throw nades to create soft cover to cover your apporach, and just starts whacking people with a grenade hammer and generating soft cover to hide in while melee ignore cover so keep swinging

and Danger Close take the edge off if you are too close to your own grenade and let you just run through mines

might change the wording to be like inverted blast plating where it gains resis to non-attack cone line and blast

maybe Morgan alt frame 🤔

depending on when i actually make the Morgan liscense if it fits

[rain topaz]

Ooooh

[rain topaz]

I vote for that

I'd love to see a terk alt frame

[raven socket]

Think I'm gonna take a crack at the brudenell

[rain topaz]

Woop

We love to see it

[sturdy drift]

Heck yeah!

[wraith birch]

The obvious answer is the zweihander.

[spring creek]

Sputnik drones with thrown weapons: Can my drone throw a javelin?

[covert surge]

Yes but since they don’t have talent they have to pick them up normally

[rain topaz]

Full ewok

[spring creek]

awesome

[ornate verge]

Found the Frundsberg pilot

[wraith birch]

Guilty as charged.

[hushed field]

Consider: Zweihander Caliban.

[spring creek]

Speaking of the frundsburg - is there an executioner spreadsheet of how you’re allowed to use it? Eg: can you spin to win, miss one enemy, spin again?

[covert surge]

executioner applies to the individual attack roll so cant spin again

no you just re roll that attack against another target, no spin

[spring creek]

Can you split, miss, and then cleave?

What I’m understanding is that the cleave needs to be the first attack, and then the extra executioner attacks have to be split if you want to optimize

[covert surge]

Iirc rerolls and extra attacks are all based off the original attack. If you trigger it off split the other stuff is split. If you trigger it off cleave the other stuff is cleave

[rain topaz]

teaching someone new to lancer about lancer

good times

[covert surge]

i am once again having a brain blast

[cerulean smelt]

Shockwaves every single time

[covert surge]

https://tenor.com/view/bernie-sanders-financial-support-gif-22039812

[covert surge]

basically IPS-N Tokugawa focusing around ping ponging in and out of Danger Zone multiple times

[rain topaz]

your on a roll this week terk

[covert surge]

but also HC 4 so uh if you misplay say bye bye to your reactor

[rain topaz]

3 new frames

[covert surge]

The lore idea is this is IPS-N failson, strapped with all their prototype shit, eternally in development because they cant seem to quite hammer out all the flaws while continuously adding more experimental features before fixing the previous one

Also, chainsaw claws

[ember kelp]

"If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet"

[covert surge]

the weight of all these prototype system does a number on its poor reactor, already struggling normally because IPS-N cant build good reactors :P

[ornate verge]

Having read some of the Togo....
Wow it really is riding that Red Line lol

[covert surge]

you can do like 6 kinetic and 4 heat in one qa for no heat at all if you ride the line correctly

[rain topaz]

And you can turn into a ball of slag if you dont

Its like a lycan if you removed all the horus tech that keeps it functioning

[covert surge]

might even buff it further since its a striker with no heavy mount and a heat damage trait :P

[rain topaz]

If only cosmic knife wasnt unique, the Togo would be a perfect mech for it

[covert surge]

theres also the thermal blade from gil

[rain topaz]

Yeah I also though about that

[hardy citrus]

IPSN Crash Dummy mech

Before I realized its name was Togo, I was going to recommend calling it the IPSN Bonnet, after Stede Bonnet, The pathetic man who knew nothing about sailing and turn to piracy because he hated his wife. He was not good at it. Down the line he basically became Blackbeard's shadow, because of Teach's experience 😭

Sorry I just noticed that it is a mech with four heat cap and a overkill heat self weapon, The abilities are all just so good and funny

Lmao, even

[covert surge]

Ride the red line babyyyy

[winter temple]

could it be possible to repeatedly trigger Weaponized Vent if you keep rolling 1s on the Overkill? (i.e. get to DangerZone, clear 1 Heat, add 1 Heat, clear 1 Heat, etc.)

[covert surge]

if you choose the clear effect you don't reroll

the heat clear replace overkill 1 heat to reroll entirely

so optimal usage is to be at heat 3, attack with the claw, go into danger zone, trigger overkill w heat clear to vent, and then do the same with the second attack

letting you vent twice with one attack

[covert surge]

also, chainsaw with funny number of d3s

[rain topaz]

Ooh

You've been making a lot of melee weapons recently

Last 3 mechs all have an integrated melee weapon

Theyve all been good, just noticed it

[spring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

Bluenexa watching terk make even more mechs instead of finishing the ones he has

[hybrid ledge]

yeah, still waiting on Brudenell

[hybrid ledge]

Weird idea on that, you can make it look knightly and like a fridge by making it look like a "castle" adding rampart-esque motifs to the shoulders, head and torso

[rain topaz]

(i was bored so I put together a list of all the terk frames, out and forthcoming (working with the assumption that all of terks brainblast mechs will end up being in the supplement))

IPS-N - Yermak, Kishka, Lord, Morgan[alt-Giambelli?], Togo - {Duilius, Gorshkov}

SSC - Goldstreak, Phasma - {Dragontail, Painted Lady}

HORUS - Aquilegia - {Rat King, Heruka, Dagon, Geryon}

HA - Subutai, Arthur, Brudenell() - {Tukhachevsky, Frundsberg, Suleiman}

.
IPS-N has the most, SSC has the least

[wraith birch]

What's getting implemented after the Brudenell btw? Just curious about the poll results now.

Has my Kintsuki boy gotten any more votes yet?

[cerulean smelt]

Justice for SSC

[viscid snow]

I mean I get it, SSC feels hardest to design in theme (at least for me) like, HA and IPS-N are different ranges of "shoot things dead" and "don't get shot dead" and Horus is just all the weird wacky space magic

SSC has a sense of sleek beauty that can be hard to get the feel of right

[winter temple]

admittedly though SSC does kind of have its fingers in every pie too

Monarch is the "shoot things dead with rockets and style" mech (and Viceroy too but up close)

Dusk Wing and Mourning Cloak are the weird space magic ones (there might be more but I don't know all the lore)

[covert surge]

I have an HA bias for gameplay and IPS-N for visual

Horus you can put anything weird in

Ssc is hard to design

[cerulean smelt]

Mfs over in SSC will sell you literally anything if they can make it pretty

[winter temple]

mmmmm Black Witch

[spring creek]

Just make a Horus mech

And then give it toes

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zy6EH_RDsOJoJoIyi0yFDeBqbyY1Ar3vqI_4ZGEOK8A/edit?usp=sharing

[open ginkgo]

Interesting!

[indigo gulch]

holy hell this boi squishy

nvm just noticed 2 Armor

still though, this is a Witch's dream

just two tech attacks and it's up in flames

[covert surge]

Same as other 4 HC frames, at least this one can be very fast and has in built heat clearing effect

[hardy citrus]

SSC and Horus to me are v much foils

weird, anomalous, shit, striving for goal

one, monitored through corproate funding and a goal of perfection

[indigo gulch]

the other being channers who thought that the Manticore was a good idea

[hardy citrus]

the other, spread through 4chan greentext and an inconsistent goal, usually one with underlying anarchy or occultism

[hardy citrus]

in a way, i think the evangelion insperation shines very through for SSC especially

for this VERY reason

[indigo gulch]

oh definitely yeah

[hardy citrus]

like, i still feel like the Sunzi almost feels more like a SSC mech than an HA mech, thematically, until you learn the history of how HA got that tech (stealing from a functionally indigineous people)

[indigo gulch]

HA stealing from a minority? Impossible. Just ignore how they made Agni.

[hardy citrus]

i think in that way, HA and IPSN also serve as foils too

one originating from the roots of facism and extremeism, and the good ol days, and becoming the most common tech provider after gms, and being a commonplace mech. theyre obviously evil to a degree, to the RPG player, but most people in setting dont see it.

and the other holding origins in protecting their financial assets, and directly combating piracy, while also providing nonwar mechs that eventually became as such. while also still holding a bit of a centrist perspective on not taking claim to the goals of the albatross inherently

[indigo gulch]

y'know what's weird? I commonly forget just how popular HA mechs are to common pilots. I always think of IPSN as filling that role, but the SHerman literally exists to compete with Everest

[hardy citrus]

i think its easy to forget just how common HA mechs, and non mech tech, are out in the lancer universe, because we as players and dms, know all of HAs secrets.

we look at them and go "how the fuck could a company like this get to persist"

especially with IPS-N FEELING like the everyman, workers union, kinda vibe

[indigo gulch]

I think it's why HA mechs are my favs. They're pretty straightforward and honest in playstyle. Sherman casts GUN. Barbarossa has Anti-Ship Cannon, Saladin is a huggable shield generator, Sunzi Teleports you, etc. Especially for new players, having the reliability of an HA licesne is really nice

Exactly

Also because the second mech you see in the book is IPSN's Blackbeard

[hardy citrus]

and it makes sense that these two are also foils

[indigo gulch]

Agreed

Also they both represent tankiness HASE wise, while SSC and HORUS are the dodge build mechs.

[hardy citrus]

SSC and Horus are both really rare, in the grand lore schemes, claimed only by the rich/lucky and expeditious/cursed, respectively.

and IPSN and HA, are both really common, in the grand lore schemes, as theyre both posited, from very different angles and marketing, as the everymans mech

[indigo gulch]

did you mean Horus

[hardy citrus]

ye

[indigo gulch]

ah

I love analyzing the parallels of the Big 4(or 5) corpros, it's fun

[rain topaz]

Any eta on the brudenell lcp? (Not trying to be pushy, just been a bit)

[raven socket]

Yeah, sorry about that. Been super busy
Was planning to do it tonight, but got caught up in stuff.
..You know, I can probably squeeze it in before I sleep tonight anyway

we'll see

[rain topaz]

It's fine, take your time, life before rpg's, just wondered

[raven socket]

nodnods
tbh I've been struggling to find time to relax lately, so.. Hasn't been the first thing on my mind

Will do it now tho

[rain topaz]

k

dont overwork yourself

frankly im just excited to have hopefully helped a bit typo wise

[raven socket]

oh god I need to integrate that stuff

(but yes, thank you for that)

[rain topaz]

ah, sorry

[raven socket]

no no, it's okay

[rain topaz]

i hope im not overstepping with all my little typo/rewording things

[raven socket]

I haven't looked over it yet but I'm sure it's fine
If there's something I disagree with I can just not implement it

[rain topaz]

yeah

[raven socket]

my sleep-deprived ass trying to spell chicxulub:

[wraith birch]

I didn't know that word existed so I'd say you're better off than me.

[covert surge]

Its the crater from the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs

[raven socket]

hey terk

[wraith birch]

Cool.

Also, while you're here, Terk, what's after Brudenell?

[raven socket]

did you mean to use the word coruscating in the description for the shock gauntlet
there's another word I'm thinking of that I thought you might mean but I can't remember it

[covert surge]

Coruscating yeah

Kishka is next

[wraith birch]

Ooh, cool flying IPS-N boy?

[covert surge]

Or maybe new frame depending on un whether mercury is in retrograde or not

[raven socket]

Fair enough
I'm frustrated at myself for not being able to remember the word but if it's correct then it's fine I guess
I'll just go be frustrated with my brain in a corner :P

[wraith birch]

I feel that tbh.

[raven socket]

there's a fuckin'
word

that's used to describe electricity fields

adkawifaukdjaukdhakudhkawudha

[covert surge]

Crackling?

[raven socket]

Don't think so

[wraith birch]

Shimmering?

[raven socket]

No, it's like
Energy fields and lightning arcs and shit pulsating and coursing around a thing, and being wibbly 'n' shit

there's a word for it

Begins with C I think

[covert surge]

CASTIGATE THE ENEMIES OF THE GODHEAD

[raven socket]

lmao

[viscid snow]

OH RAH

But my advice is leave it, the longer you try to think about it the worse it's gonna bug you and the less likely it'll come to you

[raven socket]

fair

[wraith birch]

Scintillate?

[raven socket]

fraid not

[wraith birch]

That's the closest I've got off the internet.

[viscid snow]

Hell of a word though

[raven socket]

eh, I'll remember it eventually
thanks for the attempts, tho

[wraith birch]

Yeah I didn't know scintillate or coruscate existed before this conversation.

So I learned something, I guess

[covert surge]

I picked the word up from world killer core lmao

[raven socket]

passed the thingymywhatsits to terk to check over

[wraith birch]

The Brick! The Brick! The Brick!

(I chanted that with utmost respect. Brudenell pilots please don't murder me.)

[raven socket]

the brick'll brick your brickin' brick for that

[viscid snow]

You know it's Brudenell pilots that chant The Brick! the most right?

[wraith birch]

Yeah, but I'm not one so I'm just putting disclaimers so I don't get brick'd in my sleep.

[wraith birch]

Can I pay you in thrusters to repent for my sins instead?

[raven socket]

ok

that'll be one kerbal's worth of boosters please

[wraith birch]

Very well, all hail the brick.

[covert surge]

@hereThe Brudenell is now released to the LCP. A flying brick with terrifying speed and power, and the maneuverability of the average Kerbal rocket.

https://bluenexa.itch.io/terk-mech-and-tech

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h3X5kgqYC_EFiSCv2p4z8GJjLMLw38pvgLnf-6plShc/edit?usp=sharing

time for dinner

[raven socket]

I decided to be silly and do the update post before I slept anyway
so, off to bed, for me

[wraith birch]

Good night, and good job!

[rain topaz]

(now i feel very bad)

(the rat-king frame was not updated)

(its not an issue, just though i should mention it)

[raven socket]

ack
I forgot
I'll do it tomorrow in a 0.12.0.1

You didn't do anything wrong, dw, I'm just very tired

[rain topaz]

dope

[rain topaz]

yeah, rest

[rain topaz]

-- HA BRUDENELL @ LL12 --
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N Nelson 3, IPS-N Caliban 1, IPS-N Zheng 3, HA BRUDENELL 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Titanomachy Mesh
[ TALENTS ]
Brutal 2
[ STATS ]
HULL:2 AGI:6 SYS:0 ENGI:6
STRUCTURE:4 HP:18 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:14 REPAIR:6
TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+3
SPD:6 EVA:14 EDEF:8 SENSE:3 SAVE:16
[ WEAPONS ]
FLEX MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
HEAVY MOUNT: D/D 288 (Supermassive Mod)
[ SYSTEMS ]
Ramjet, Cockpit-Integrated Stim Pump x5

behold, punch god

[raven socket]

I know I should be sleeping, but, uh

-- HA BRUDENELL @ LL3 --
[ LICENSES ]
HA BRUDENELL 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Superior by Design
[ TALENTS ]
Skirmisher 2, Pankrati 2, Stormbringer 2
[ STATS ]
HULL:1 AGI:2 SYS:2 ENGI:0
STRUCTURE:4 HP:12 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:5
TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+0
SPD:4 EVA:10 EDEF:10 SENSE:3 SAVE:12
[ WEAPONS ]
FLEX MOUNT: ANTI-TANK GUIDED MISSILE 8 1D3+2
HEAVY MOUNT: Chicxulub Heavy Shock Gauntlet 1 2d6 4 (Rocket Attachment)
[ SYSTEMS ]
Breach Shield x3, Joint Mobility Recalibration, Rapid Burst Jump Jet System
What I'm thinking for the build
I can't decide between these though
https://i.imgur.com/5QCU6DD.png
https://i.imgur.com/0IZRuPa.png

[rain topaz]

its beautiful

in addition to dealing 34 knockback, i forgot that (with a few additions) it also can deal an upwards of 40 energy damage

[raven socket]

Dear god

[rain topaz]

+3 kinetic to everyone around with executioner 2

yeah

[raven socket]

Also, hmm.. Superior by Design or Improved Armament?

If I take IA I can have the fist, the guillotine and a ranged weapon

[rain topaz]

ive dubbed this mech the "Id Prefer You Stop Being Here"

[raven socket]

simply yeet them back to the GM's actors folder

[rain topaz]

and as a note, it can do this the second round of combat

and all it costs is 14 heat and a charge from stim pump

its not even at max heat

and now we run away and hide so we can use auto cooler

[covert surge]

Its an HA frame when 14 heat is preceded by “only”

[rain topaz]

well, actually, with the fuel rod gun you can get back into action a bit faster

its kinda beautiful

for a second i was worried this was too busted a combo and i would have to report it, but it does cost like LL10 to pull off

and the whole frames built around it

the fun thing is that it has a whole ass exotic-drug-pump to gain +1 knockback

also, its heat cap is higher than its hp

(atleast in the filled out build ive constructed)

» Karl // CLAIMENT «
Celebrity, LL12
[ SKILL TRIGGERS ]
[ GEAR ]

---

[ TALENTS ]
Brutal 3, Executioner 3,
Nuclear Cavalier 3, Vanguard 3,
Skirmisher 2, Grease Monkey 1
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N Nelson 3, IPS-N Caliban 1,
IPS-N Zheng 3, HA BRUDENELL 2,
HA Genghis 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Titanomachy Mesh, Gyges Frame,
Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints, Superior by Design
[ MECH ]
« ID PREFER YOU STOP BEING HERE »
HA BRUDENELL
H:0 A:6 S:2 E:6 SIZE:2
STRUCTURE:4/4 HP:14/14 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4/4 HEAT:0/16 REPAIR:5/5
ATK BONUS:6 TECH ATK:0 LTD BONUS:3
SPD:6 EVA:14 EDEF:10 SENS:3 SAVE:16
[ WEAPONS ]
INTEGRATED MOUNT: Fuel Rod Gun
FLEX MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
HEAVY MOUNT: D/D 288 (Supermassive Mod) // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
Ramjet, Cockpit-Integrated Stim Pump,
Auto-Cooler, AGNI-Class NHP,
Joint Mobility Recalibration

decided to throw vanguard 3 in there so i could capitalize on the knockback with fuel rod gun

.

-- HA BRUDENELL @ LL9 --
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N Zheng 3, IPS-N Caliban 1, IPS-N Nelson 3, HA BRUDENELL 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Titanomachy Mesh
[ TALENTS ]
Brutal 2
[ STATS ]
HULL:0 AGI:5 SYS:0 ENGI:6
STRUCTURE:4 HP:13 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:14 REPAIR:5
TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+3
SPD:5 EVA:13 EDEF:8 SENSE:3 SAVE:15
[ WEAPONS ]
FLEX MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
HEAVY MOUNT: D/D 288 (Supermassive Mod)
[ SYSTEMS ]
Cockpit-Integrated Stim Pump x5, Ramjet

There

The minimum build

[rain topaz]

i stay with SBD, since the rocket attatchment can also impose heat

[raven socket]

nods. Fair.

What do you think of the build, overall?

This is what I've got, as a note
-- HA BRUDENELL @ LL3 --
[ LICENSES ]
HA BRUDENELL 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Superior by Design
[ TALENTS ]
Skirmisher 2, Pankrati 2, Stormbringer 2
[ STATS ]
HULL:1 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
STRUCTURE:4 HP:12 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:12 REPAIR:5
TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+1
SPD:4 EVA:10 EDEF:8 SENSE:3 SAVE:12
[ WEAPONS ]
FLEX MOUNT: ANTI-TANK GUIDED MISSILE 8 1D3+2
HEAVY MOUNT: Chicxulub Heavy Shock Gauntlet 1 2d6 4 (Rocket Attachment)
[ SYSTEMS ]
Breach Shield x4, Joint Mobility Recalibration, EVA Module

[rain topaz]

im not a harrison mech kind of person, but i do quite like some of their parts

[raven socket]

I've just realised that stormbringer isn't useful here because of how mobility recalibration works, but still

[rain topaz]

yeah

its only melee

[raven socket]

Aye
But yeah.. Any thoughts?

[rain topaz]

what is anti-tank guided missiles from?

[raven socket]

It's from GMS Crisis Catalogue
https://i.imgur.com/XkJlGSS.png

[rain topaz]

reviwing it now, since brud's new dont have all its stuff at the top of my head

overall it looks pretty good

maybe replace stormbringer with spaceborn?

[raven socket]

Fair
Saves me an SP I suppose

[rain topaz]

gets you a built in eva, more movement stuff\

[raven socket]

Yeah

[rain topaz]

maybe take 1 spaceborn 1 ace?

[raven socket]

Unsure of what to do with the last SP and talent point.. Hmm.

Ace, huh?

[rain topaz]

since with dangerzone and stuf you can actually use ace's stuff

[rain topaz]

yeah its a rare one but you actually have 2 systems atleast that let you fly

[rain topaz]

maybe grab personalizations?

looking kinda low in the health department

[raven socket]

Good call

-- HA BRUDENELL @ LL3 --
[ LICENSES ]
  HA BRUDENELL 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Superior by Design
[ TALENTS ]
  Skirmisher 2, Pankrati 2, SPACEBORN 1, Ace 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:1 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:14 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:12 REPAIR:5
  TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:4 EVA:10 EDEF:8 SENSE:3 SAVE:12
[ WEAPONS ]
  FLEX MOUNT: ANTI-TANK GUIDED MISSILE
  HEAVY MOUNT: Chicxulub Heavy Shock Gauntlet (Rocket Attachment)
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Breach Shield x4, Joint Mobility Recalibration, Personalizations

That would give us this

[rain topaz]

yeah, looks pretty good to me

[raven socket]

👌
Thanks! I really appreciate it

[rain topaz]

np

theres the obligatory suggestion of grabbing some executioner levels when you can

cause while the only effect a small number of weapons, they are damn good

[raven socket]

nodnods
How does that interact with loading weapons? I don't actually know

[rain topaz]

as far as i know it doesnt have anything specific

its effects all heavy and superheavy melee weapons

and thats it i think

ah, i see

lemme check something

"Missing with an attack that triggers No Escape (or Exemplar’s Valiant Aid) will trigger Reliable, but do not incur additional costs or require reloading to make the rerolled attack."

from the word of tom

[raven socket]

Aah, nice

[rain topaz]

so go out my child, and punch everyone so many times

[viscid snow]

Cooked one up in my late night barely keeping my eyes open state

-- HA BRUDENELL @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
HA BRUDENELL 3, IPS-N Blackbeard 1, IPS-N Raleigh 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Gyges Frame, Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ TALENTS ]
Executioner 3, Spaceborn 3, Juggernaut 3
[ STATS ]
HULL:4 AGI:4 SYS:0 ENGI:0
STRUCTURE:4 HP:19 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:8 REPAIR:7
TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+0
SPD:5 EVA:12 EDEF:8 SENSE:3 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
FLEX MOUNT: Hand Cannon / Hand Cannon
HEAVY MOUNT: Chicxulub Heavy Shock Gauntlet (Rocket Attachment) // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
“Roland” Chamber, Synthetic Muscle Netting, Joint Mobility Recalibration

The ram capability could probs be dropped, but ramming someone for like, 12 knock back seems very funny

[raven socket]

Thank you for the help!

[viscid snow]

And Roland chamber is in there entire cause I realised the fist was loading

[rain topaz]

yeah

i was juts looking to make sure roland works with it all

cause i thought roland might only work on ranged, but it works on any loading

[viscid snow]

Yeah understandable

It's called Roland chamber would make sense if it required one to work

[rain topaz]

yeah

[rain topaz]

also, how does one get the code-box format on discord?

[viscid snow]

Anyways, I need to be up in like 6 hours, so I'm going to bed :)

[rain topaz]

sweet dreams

[viscid snow]

Sleep well team, or don't if you're in the middle of the day <3

[rain topaz]

yeah its 2 for me

i do love how for each mech that is added the itch page gets longer and longer

[raven socket]

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not '''

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[covert surge]

The list ™️

[raven socket]

Do you mean the images, lol

I've been considering trimming down the number of mechs shown in the sidebar as images

But I dunno

it'll be fiiiiine

[rain topaz]

no its 2 pm for me

[rain topaz]

no keep it, its very good

[winter temple]

'-- IPS-N Störtebeker @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
HA BRUDENELL 3, IPS-N Raleigh 2, IPS-N Blackbeard 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Gyges Frame, Heatfall Coolant System
[ TALENTS ]
Combined Arms 3, Nuclear Cavalier 3, Skirmisher 2, Brawler 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:7 REPAIR:7
TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+1
SPD:6 EVA:12 EDEF:7 SENSE:8 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun
FLEX MOUNT: RECOILLESS RIFLE
FLEX MOUNT: RECOILLESS RIFLE
HEAVY MOUNT: Chicxulub Heavy Shock Gauntlet
[ SYSTEMS ]
Synthetic Muscle Netting, “Roland” Chamber, Rapid Burst Jump Jet System, Personalizations'

recoilless rifle is from gms crisis catalog

Pretty much the only Brude system on there is the shock gauntlet

I love Roland Chamber

[raven socket]

Ah, fair

[covert surge]

i keep trying to figure out a design for arthur and halfway through just "wait a minute this is just reinhardt again"

[indigo gulch]

Like Reinhardt from Overwatch?

And are we talkin art design or stat design?

[covert surge]

OW rein, art

the stats and kit are done

[indigo gulch]

ah

Share the stats, we might be able to suggest some designs

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L1-42pgy9dqKJS0BKXIAuODFLoaoMC_IwWRt3LmKVH4/edit?usp=sharing

basically merging the knightly visual with HA fridge on legs design style

pretty lightning bruiser type mech so fast and decently armored

also means i can finally jam my blorbo into a mech piece :P

[autumn crescent]

The quilted gambeson look could be translated over to HA's signature cockpit look? Leave the fancy knight look to SSC, HA would make a more practical look right?

[covert surge]

here the draft i got so far

[rain topaz]

Ooooh

[autumn crescent]

Gives a big "Nelson but HA" vibe, which makes sense with the lore youve written

[covert surge]

Part of it is intended part of me also think it might be too similar to nelson

[autumn crescent]

Maybe you could make the X-Caliber more integrated into the overall design? The mech doesnt just have it, its a core piece of equipment? i:e big powered sheath or something?

[covert surge]

im avoiding the sheathe cuz a) energy sword b) the pilot has sheathe and im trying to maintain composition so the line of sight goes like

[covert surge]

two big diagonals

[rain topaz]

I've just conceived of the idea of a phasma alt that instead of grappling mechs into intangibility, punches them and traps them in intangible space

[covert surge]

maybe like a cable and battery pack because the X caliber is a battery-powered weapon like the ZF

[rain topaz]

Maybe

I'm almost imaging the hilt built into the hand

Direct reactor feed style

[autumn crescent]

Tokugawa has something similar in design, so it fits with HA

[covert surge]

maybe even some billowing smoke

[rain topaz]

Yeah

Maybe the pack is the battery

So its venting the extra heat even the batteries cant stand

Then it dumps the batteries

[rain topaz]

It might be too late, but maybe fill out the limbs?

(Though It might just be a trick of the sketch)

[rain topaz]

I might try building this as a mourning-cloak alt

Hook teleporting into intangiblity, give it some ram abilities

Cause a bonus is that most of the kit of the mourning cloak is pretty general

[rain topaz]

Ooooh

Very dope

Very spindly for a harrison frame

[covert surge]

now to color scheming

[rain topaz]

Can I suggest some reds?

Like a deep red

Idk why, just the name 'Arthur' is red in my mind

Hey I was wondering, I saw this on deviant art, and I wondered if you ever planned to expand on it?

https://www.deviantart.com/terkmc/art/LANCER-RPG-custom-mech-design-Zhukov-970075213

[covert surge]

no

sometime you just gotta kill your darling

[rain topaz]

Ah, ok

[covert surge]

picking up NPC weapon is just untenntable

[rain topaz]

Sad, but understandable

[covert surge]

most people, including mine, first homebrew is usually unsalvagable

[rain topaz]

I'm just trying to get past the first homebrew mark

[indigo gulch]

preach it

yeets Bombardier Beetle back into trashcan

[covert surge]

tentaive scheme

time to bed

[indigo gulch]

looks fukin sick

real Nemesis Commando vibes and I dig it

[rain topaz]

very dope

[autumn crescent]

Love a good red

[hybrid ledge]

I feel the limbs just need to feel a bit beefier

[terse marsh]

Brudenell liscence is so damn cool! Amazing work.

[terse marsh]

And so he left, carrying new sense of humanity within.

[vivid solar]

Pictured below: average Togo pilot

https://tenor.com/view/ash-evil-dead-chainsaw-shotgun-groovy-gif-18835309

[open ginkgo]

Very Blackknight vibes!

[viscid snow]

Yeah I'm so here for this omg, the wire my beloved

[wraith birch]

YES

FUCK YES!

[hushed field]

Question: Can its sword be used as a loading thrown weapon that still lets you melee? :3

[covert surge]

Wuh why

[alpine kayak]

I really like the Arthur, it feels like a Raleigh with an on turn off turn rotation

[covert surge]

Kinda an HA ver of Everest-Raleigh with off turns and burst action economy

[alpine kayak]

Yeah it’s a cool concept

I’m a sucker for strikers that also buff allies

[covert surge]

Spend a whole turn just vibing doing almost nothing and next turn you move like 14 spaces and swing a superheavy twice

[alpine kayak]

You can bolster use orator or something

Which is cool

[rain topaz]

The fun thing is that due to the way Terk works, the supplement will never be done, and bluenexa will be trapped within this sisyphean task

[cerulean smelt]

The right kind of sisyphus hopefully

not the anxious madman kind

[rain topaz]

As soon as 1 lcp is finished, terk has made 3 more mechs

Which is not a random statistic, terk has made 3 new mechs in a week and a half

[rain topaz]

Hey terk, would you mind if I expanded/designed my own version off this mech idea? (giving credit of course)

Lots of ideas flowing through my head

[covert surge]

Go ahead

[rain topaz]

Dope, thanks

Once I have some money I really need to grab the lancer template thing

[covert surge]

Y just use the google doc template if you are not making a pdf

[rain topaz]

Yeah that's the goal

I dont think you can get the doc template for free?

It's not part of the demo on itch

Is there a different place to get it for free?

[covert surge]

The template i use is just pinned in hbrew channel

[rain topaz]

Really

Dang, I could've sworn I checked that

[covert surge]

The formatting you see in my gdoc yeah

[rain topaz]

Welp, danks

[covert surge]

The paid pdf is to make stuff look like the lancer pdf styling

[rain topaz]

Ah ok

[rain topaz]

Should I be using the "lancer release homebrew template" or the "new mech template"?

[hushed field]

It's the simplest way to do a pommel throw I can think of, and it's funny?

terkmc (Comm open) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1150099146620018708 message) Wuh why

[hollow chasm]

the turbo brick is upon us

[raven socket]

Precisely :D
It gives me something to do, though!

Plus I love seeing people talk about the mechs/use them/etc

Also tbf it doesn't usually take a week for me to get an LCP done

[cerulean smelt]

Nexa you're an absolute blessing for all your hard work

[raven socket]

Aww, thanku <3

[viscid snow]

Yeah, always love your work :)

[covert surge]

I may or may not have a brainblast for a Modred arthur alt based on a reddit comment

[rain topaz]

Do itttt

Another terk alt

[wraith birch]

Atlas: Actual blade stances
Arthur: Autonomous Edge Alignment
Frundsberg: Hehe big sword go brrrrrrrrr.
Brudenell: BONK

[covert surge]

Basic idea is integrated free tech that force it and the enemy to skirmish each other for free

Letting it also cheat action economy like Arthur, just using its health instead of action as cost

[raven socket]

COME ON AND-

[covert surge]

And hooking into Arthur’s brace system, and giving a use for bracing during your turn

[rain topaz]

Go for it

[cerulean smelt]

oh shit would this be the first Terk-licence alt frame?

Excluding the meme ones

[covert surge]

Gunna make it an KTB frame too for the thematic lmao

[cerulean smelt]

That's fire

[rain topaz]

Theres also theoretically the giamballi, morgan slt

[viscid snow]

Terk brain blasting hell yeah

Love me RKF frames

They just have such perfect style

[cerulean smelt]

oh I hadn't heard of that one, sounds quite interesting

[rain topaz]

This

Would you illustrate the mordred?

[covert surge]

Ill decide when the time comes

[cerulean smelt]

blowing up that bridge when we get to it

[sturdy drift]

... It just hit me how stupid a Fusion Pike with Autonomous Edge Alignment can get with a pilot with Duelist. And I love it.

[viscid snow]

Reliable 2 trillion coming up

[rain topaz]

How?

I geuss you have a 2 accuracy ap weapon

[covert surge]

Max out at 6 btw, its final accuracy dice not all accuracy dice

[sturdy drift]

ahh, alright. Makes sense

[rain topaz]

I think the highest reliable you could get is 14, with dd/288

The Arthur has officially become my favorite HA mech

[sturdy drift]

Same.

[winter temple]

I really love the Arthur's "Charge" mechanic

I'm assuming it works very well with Asura

[covert surge]

2 barrage 1 skirmish 😲

[winter temple]

now I'm imagining an "archer" build Arthur with Sherman systems reflavored as a crossbow/ballista

Ballista being the Tachyon Lance

[cerulean smelt]

That's def one way to hunt megafauna

[forest nymph]

The arthur is so cool, can't wait for the LCP on that, there's so many frames I want to try

[sturdy drift]

Same. I'd been waiting for the Brudenell for a while for the save reason, then Terk tossed out the idea for the Arthur and it was like 'nooo, now I have to wait longer'

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z7WCkahzKzMh-yIB-mlLZkVspQ8FeDYXqYgZTkhKYjc/edit?usp=sharing

[rain topaz]

So can the mordred just 'to the death' everyone every round?

[covert surge]

1/round for each character

and its in a range 3 anyway

[rain topaz]

Ok

[rain topaz]

Yeah I just noticed that

[cerulean smelt]

Horrifying

I love it

[rain topaz]

Damn, this thing really is, "Killing you was the point, surviving was just a bonus"

[covert surge]

mordred got ran through by a spear by king arthur

then pulled himself up the spear so he can strike arthur dead

[rain topaz]

Damn

Metal as all hell

[covert surge]

🤔 what if upgrade the core to the two barraging each other instead

[rain topaz]

Maybe

Might be more interesting than just, fight until you get big hurt

[covert surge]

actually nah then it doesnt play well with 1 weapon npc

Please i want to look up mordred art without seeing only the Fate version the character >:[

[raven socket]

google Mordred -fate

and maybe -anime too

[covert surge]

[raven socket]

This kind of galaxy-brain thinking is what you (sorta) pay me for :P

/j

[wraith birch]

You can probably search Mordred Arthurian Legends

[covert surge]

Would be kinda funny to make mordred look like actual paladin-esque knight in shining armor since arthur ironically has the black knight vibe with the dark green and deep red visor

[wraith birch]

I would love a knight mech in the gilded greenwich style.

[rain topaz]

Maybe make it shiny armor over cobbled together frame

To fit with the lore

[hardy citrus]

Okay the Arthur has its blade have connections to a reactor on its back

What if as a tongue in cheek reference to the actual mythology, mordreds weaponry connect right to the heart 🤔

[rain topaz]

I mean, its core system is the only new part of it

So that would make sense

[viscid snow]

Oh my god I love it

Just get stabbed and keep swinging

[terse marsh]

One of my players said they might get some ranks in Brudenell so I hope that happens

Also I kinda wish Terk made some alt frames for the official mechs. Would be cool to see what kind of direction you can take them in

[hushed field]

Maybe I should try making an alt frame.

[slow delta]

does the Subutai have stats, is it further down the line, or is it a scrapped idea?

[open ginkgo]

If it's on the google doc, it's gonna be done sooner or later... probably.

Looks like it's on there! and is stated

[slow delta]

awesome, just was wondering because I adore the art and was wondering whether there was any mechanics to be read through already

[tawdry jungle]

So as funny as knockback 12 on the Brundenell is, what exactly is the intended game plan with that mech?

just go in and hit something so hard you send it through 8 obstructions and it just explodes?

[covert surge]

You have a ton of control tool

Aoe prone with sonic boom

Knockbacks on melee with the knockback direction chooser

You are basically the pc version of the Cataphract npc

[slow delta]

that sounfds incredible

[covert surge]

Just go in like a runaway train and whack things

[slow delta]

that sounds really cool, super hyped for that

[covert surge]

Brudenell is already out lol

[slow delta]

ah, I see
In that case, In Thrust We Trust

I've got a characer who is currently planned for Tokugawa, but Brudenell might actually be a better fit

[tawdry jungle]

Oh also rules question

There’s nothing that states the Brudenell stops flying unless out of the danger zone

Is that intentional to allow hovering?

Oh and since you can choose the direction of knock back, isn’t it just possible to fling people 7 or 8 spaces straight upwards and they take falling damage

[covert surge]

cant fling people upward

and the base of flying rule is you must move at least 1 space on your turn or begin falling, and you can't move into spaces you can't move into, so if you are in the sky and get out of the danger zone, you can't move that at least 1 space so you fall

but you can get other flight systems as back up

[tawdry jungle]

How come? RAW (far as I’m aware) you can

[tawdry jungle]

Ok that’s what I thought

[covert surge]

why does everyone ask about the fling upward? Spaceborn sea leg does the same thing and it cant fling you upward either

neither can puppet system involuntarily move someone upward

pg 106

[tawdry jungle]

The image of just uppercutting someone really hard is just funny to me

But ultimately it still works great as an anti art tool so that’s what matters

[open ginkgo]

Because sometimes you want to uppercut a bugger into space. but yeah makes sense

[rain topaz]

hey, @raven socket (is it okay to ping you?) you said you might make an lcp 0.12.1 to include the forgotton rat king text changes/corrections, its fine if your busy, just wanted to know if thats still happening

[raven socket]

Yeah, feel free to ping me whenever

It'll still happen, but I'm working atm

[rain topaz]

k, np, just wondered

[median mountain]

So silly question.
Could Heruka’s ‘blade from the duat’ trigger Duelist’s Unstoppable and if so are you still considered in range to do either grapple or ram?

[pliant token]

This actually made me think of something related, at least aesthetically

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catacomb_saints

Some truly phenomenal visuals there

[covert surge]

Duelist 3 doesnt extend the range of grapple and ram

So it works the same as it would with like threat 3 weapon/thrown. Ie it doesnt unless you have a way to close the gap like blackbeard pull or are already adjacent

[open ginkgo]

Think might need to make an FAQ/most commonly asked questions for this sorta thing cause think ot first time been asked

[covert surge]

I mean this instance works just like the basegame

[rain topaz]

any eta on when we might get the doc for the Kishka?

[covert surge]

now

hovering Drake as an A-10 Warthog or levitating Barbarossa lmao

[cerulean smelt]

Ooh, does this one have a name

[covert surge]

Kishka the hovering ips-n vtol mech

[cerulean smelt]

Oh, duh

That's really nifty

[rain topaz]

For the Counterfire reaction, what does it mean by "A hostile attack draws Los through spaces within range 3 of the kishka"?

[covert surge]

think of it like a burst 3 area around Kishka that if the attack trace the line through the area it happens

[rain topaz]

So any ranged attack triggers it?

[covert surge]

even arcing and seeking tbh it just draw a line for the attack

[rain topaz]

So any ranged attack triggers it?

And what's the point of the soft cover?

[covert surge]

soft cover happens before the attack rolls

its a soft cover zone not zone that grants soft cover so enemy inslide the soft cover gain +1 difficulty as per soft cover rule

[rain topaz]

Ah

Also, shouldnt it just be a burst 1 centered on the target, or would that mean you would have to specify it doesnt move with them?

[covert surge]

burst 1 will scale with enemy size

[rain topaz]

Ahhh

I honestly though the soft cover would be connected to the reaction

Like if you draw fire within an area of soft cover it triggers

[covert surge]

its mostly for the reaction but you can also just dry-fire it by itself if you want to drop pro-active soft cover on enemy

[rain topaz]

K

Would it make more sense to just have the trigger be "when a hostile character targets/hits the kishka with a ranged attack" ?

[covert surge]

no?

[rain topaz]

Does the current description have a specific rules interaction?

[covert surge]

it lets you block shit for allies too

[rain topaz]

AHHH

Ok

I see

My bad

[covert surge]

if you fly above or in front of them then attacks that draws line through the area you can also drop soft cover

[rain topaz]

Ah ok

Could I suggest changing the range thing to a burst?

Just to make that more clear?

An interesting system for the license could be something that like adds a difficulty when an enemy makes a ranged attack within soft cover you make?

Though also, dont wanna skirt too close to gorshkov stuff

Soft cover might be more its thing

(Hope this is constructive/helpful and not just annoying)

[covert surge]

Must restraint self from making SSC Albatross and Horus Albatross frame

[rain topaz]

once upon a time, the 4 albatross frames lived in harmony, until one day, the GMS Albatross attacked

[cerulean smelt]

It'd be interesting to think what they'd be like

[covert surge]

SSC albatross turns out to be super tanky shield guy lmao

Maybe then i can find a place to put this weapon in

[cerulean smelt]

I think I've fallen head over heels with that weapon

An SSC spartan is something I never thought I needed

But fits all too well

[rain topaz]

The thing is, we have the orchis

Which is technically an ssc shield guy

[wraith birch]

We've had one shield, yes, but what about a second shield?

[cerulean smelt]

Can't go wrong with more shields

and can finally make the Orchis' art make sense without needing to use Nelson's warpike

[viscid snow]

Yeah, also while Orchis has a shield, it doesn't feel shield-ey yk

[cerulean smelt]

it's def shield, but not shield enough

I want my mech phalanx dammit

[covert surge]

Orchis has a sword innit

[sturdy drift]

... Id love a full set of 4 Albatross dedicated frames just to take them and made a build with them all

[rain topaz]

Tbf, it would be the 3rd shield guy, since duilius

[cerulean smelt]

Ahhh true

[rain topaz]

The orchis does open up with the like "The Orchis the shield and spear"

My thought idea for an ssc that's a defender but different from orchis, is something that redirects attacks

Like maybe deflecting, but could also be like showing them into blinkspave, teleporting them away

That sorta thing

[cerulean smelt]

Tech defender?? or is that already a thing

[rain topaz]

An ssc defender doesnt take hits, it renders hits useless

[rain topaz]

Well ssc has fine tech stuff, I think it would be more interesting if it was conventional attack defense

This mech stops you from ever having to scratch the paint

[cerulean smelt]

Nah I agree, also given the nature of SSC hinging on agility most of the time

Also in that manner it's proving the luxury of it when you can't even damage the priceless pearl

[rain topaz]

Yes

And so far, the only defender mechs ssc has are both for karrakin-connected

The white witch soaks up damage because it can just rebuild itself

[cerulean smelt]

getting flashbacks to the goddamn Tree Sentinel from Elden Ring

Totally redirecting spells

[rain topaz]

Plus, it leans into the albatross protection thing

My only worry us making it too close to the white witch

That could always be circumvented by making it a white witch alt

I dont think we really have a mech that turns your enemies weapons and attacks back on them

So that could be a dope niche

[cerulean smelt]

oh absolutely

[rain topaz]

I'm I also really hooked on the idea of an ssc mech built around redirecting enemy attacks?

I dont see how that's germaine

I'm not sure how well it could be built as a white witch alt

Youd have to give it traits that could counteract taking damage

hmmm

a few pieces of kit fold in decently well, but im coming up black on things like ferrofluid lance, pinning spire, and ferrospike barrier

my first though is to call it the like "skipper"

since thats one of the fastest butterflies

damn, most durable butterfly is the painted lady

ooh, the sulphur

[cerulean smelt]

Sulphur

Gosh that has a nice ring to it

[rain topaz]

yeah i think that might work

i have no idea if this is fruitful

the annoying thing is that alt frames are easier like, idea wise, but not mechanically

argh, hard'

SSC Sulphur, Defender/Support

[formal juniper]

Field Guide to the Short Rim made a Sulphur. Striker/Controller if I'm not mistaken

[rain topaz]

drone focused

[formal juniper]

Yep yep

[rain topaz]

looking at more butterflies

maybe something like the Postman

[formal juniper]

Birdwing butterflies are pretty elusive, could work into the dodgy factor.

[rain topaz]

theres also the Atala

which is small and metallic

birdwing might work

ties into the beauty aspect, toxic

any other suggestions?

[formal juniper]

Lacewing

[cerulean smelt]

Hercules moth could be cool, given spear+shield typically lines up with Greece

[formal juniper]

There's the Common Indian Crow, which you could drop down to Crow

[rain topaz]

yeah, though crow feels omen-ey

[formal juniper]

Mhmm

Man now I want to work on my Oni again...

[rain topaz]

i saw the crow, but i feel like that might work more for a frame that is about hurting back

since its plays dead

im kinda going towards the Atala

it moves leisurely like it has nothing to worry about

mmm

maybe Queen?

[cerulean smelt]

Queen kinda goes hard

[rain topaz]

"The Queen, Untouchable and majestic"

[cerulean smelt]

Kaiser

[rain topaz]

hm

[formal juniper]

Kaiser speaks more to a Support frame.

Something that commands

[rain topaz]

yeah

Queen might work

not to get gender-norms-ey, but like, protecting from behind, graceful, unarmed but dangerous

[formal juniper]

Nice

[cerulean smelt]

Also kinda has a cool contrast - the greek Hercules going through so much labour while this one is untouched and unbothered

[rain topaz]

hm

im gonna go with the queen for now, and rename later if something better comes up

[cerulean smelt]

Contrasting names are just cool to me idk

[rain topaz]

plus theres also the intercorp hercules

though, hercules could be a very cool atlas alt

[cerulean smelt]

Intercorp is Heracles isn't it?

[rain topaz]

since i think hercules even held the sky for atlas for a time

[formal juniper]

Yep

Heracles

[rain topaz]

ah yeah, maybe

[formal juniper]

Just checked it

[rain topaz]

dope

but yeah, atlas alt hercules i think

[cerulean smelt]

Lmfao size 3 atlas alt

[rain topaz]

Ha

probably size 1 if not size 1/2

[formal juniper]

Jaegar Kunst in a freaking Barb

[rain topaz]

its movement stuff would be like leaps and crap

[cerulean smelt]

It's all fun and games till the giant railgun freight train begins walljumping towards you

[covert surge]

I low key have a weird size 3 atlas meme bouncing in my head that has an efficient core power that makes two pararell lines of height 4 hard cover terrains appear from two side of it

[cerulean smelt]

That's really sick

[rain topaz]

sounds wild

[rain topaz]

ah yes

[raven socket]

is terk brain-blasting again

[rain topaz]

doesnt sound like it

[covert surge]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-possibly-perhaps-gif-14588906

[rain topaz]

its actually atleast me doing so

[rain topaz]

i stand corrected

[covert surge]

I was working on Kishka

[rain topaz]

ahhh

[formal juniper]

I really wish I had you guys' time and energy.

I've a full corp and a handful of corp frames I've worked on and just... never finished

[rain topaz]

does it count as brain-blasting if you already had plans and the concept?

[covert surge]

the real trick is to have something else you are supposed to be doing

then you will be filled with unending inspiratin and energy to do anything but the thing you are supposed to be doing

[cerulean smelt]

ADHD

[rain topaz]

true

harnessed procrastination

[raven socket]

https://tenor.com/view/principal-skinner-yes-seymour-skinner-the-simpsons-enthusiastic-yes-gif-15806751

as someone with ADHD

[formal juniper]

True enough.

Best work I get done is at work...

[rain topaz]

well, now i need to figure out how the queen would work

[raven socket]

Those messages were supposed to be in the opposite order but screw it

[rain topaz]

should it get stuff on missed attacks, or hits?

[cerulean smelt]

missed attacks I think

[rain topaz]

so then it would want a higher evasion

atleast 10

maybe 12

[formal juniper]

12 is the highest you usually see base. At least per the guidelines released an age and a half ago

[rain topaz]

no yeah

everything else ive set to average for now

though im not sure how many repairs

thinking of maybe even putting in a hanger queen sorta thing maybe

i think im steering this away from albatross

[formal juniper]

Is it more tech oriented? Less repairs and health.

[rain topaz]

but i think an atlas alt might work better than for albatross

its at 6 health

it doesnt want to be hit

less tech oriented is i think where im leaning

its not jamming your guns, its catching your bullets and firing them right back

[formal juniper]

Then decent evasion, good repairs, low health, average tech, I'd say.

It doesn't want to be hit, but it wants to survive getting hit if it does.

[rain topaz]

k

[formal juniper]

That's my suggestion, as much as it's worth

[rain topaz]

should it have an aux/aux or a flex?

i think flex might make more sense

[formal juniper]

It's meant to be dodgy, backline, throwing stuff back at the enemy.

Flex would make it simpler, but I might take inspiration from the Lancaster and provide it a Main/Aux. Lannie isn't meant to be really 'front line', but it gets there because it has to heal.

similarly, the Queen needs to be shot at to get its features to work, so it needs to be 'mid line' as it were.

[rain topaz]

true

what i got so far

not going to be both mounts

just havent decided yet

i dont think i want an integrated weapon

i think its base is its not a weapon thing

its using enemy attacks

maybe it could scale damage based on the mount of the enemy weapon

[formal juniper]

Could do. It's a bit more book-keeping for the GM to get across the scale of weapon, but it'd be a good way to translate the redirect nature.

[rain topaz]

yeah

[viscid snow]

Hey, maybe #homebrew-design

[rain topaz]

k

[hardy citrus]

Bring it back, this looks really fun. Love the damage-based crowd control of going "Oh I missed? No I didn't look" *shoots someone else *

[covert surge]

Naruga gave me a brainblast that I gotta draw the modred holding the sword mordhau style

for the contrast and cool visual

[covert surge]

The Togo is a staple of the IPS-N chassis catalog, despite never having been released. It has occupied the up-and-coming project spot for over 150 years. Originally intended as the flagship of an upcoming line of mech, the Togo has fallen victim to a vicious cycle of project creep due to its designation as “the cutting edge”. An executive would, upon being handed the reign of the project, demand a new experimental feature to be added, so that it would bear their name as a flagship product when released. Then by the time IPS-N Northstar Robotic figured out how to semi-reliably implement the feature, the old executive would have either retired or been promoted, and a new executive would have taken their place, with their own revolutionary idea that they, in turn, demand to be implemented.

Nicknamed “The Eternal Prototype”, the Togo has a polarizing reputation amongst Northstar Robotic researchers. Some consider it a dead-end position that once they are assigned to can never leave, where their work will never see the light of day. Others consider it effectively a blank-check to do whatever they want with an effectively unlimited budget, as long as they can justify whatever it is they are adding to the chassis as “new and improved” to the board.

Despite dozens of other chassis having been released based on technology and systems that were tested on the Togo, the Togo itself has only seen live combat a handful of time, either as mandated field-testing, or when their source code leaked and a curious freelancer on the other side of the galaxy takes it for a joyride. Whatever the case, the Togo is a temperamental chassis, and pilots need to balance the whole host of experimental and poorly-documented features with its aging reactor, barely capable of keeping up with the dozens of new systems it is attached to.

[viscid snow]

" or when their source code leaked and a curious freelancer on the other side of the galaxy takes it for a joyride" Love it

[covert surge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zy6EH_RDsOJoJoIyi0yFDeBqbyY1Ar3vqI_4ZGEOK8A/edit?usp=sharing

now w fluff

[raven socket]

Excellent mech background

Scope creep: the mech

[rain topaz]

We love to see all creatives represented

"Am I burning out? Nahh, I'm sure this will be helpful"

Damn the artist metaphors are big on this one

[covert surge]

Life immitates Art and Art immitates Life :P

[rain topaz]

Would it make more sense to word that dragons breath system as a die, instead of charges, as is lancer fashion?

[covert surge]

die starts at 1

[rain topaz]

True

Could simply make you gain the die on the first charge, then tick it up each time after

Might be too over complicating, but also might be more core compliant

Your choice at the end of it

[ornate verge]

This thing latching onto a BDF Jian would be hilarious because of the sheer amount of grenades the Jian can mount. It just becomes a super carpet bomber.

[covert surge]

Drake become A-10 warthog, Jian become B52 bomber, Barb becomes an actual capital ship

[ornate verge]

Oh god it with a BDF Chambi would be insane. It does even more damage than a Barbies gun but less range and needs another player/character to reload it. This makes it so that someone is right there to reload it and then the Chambi can fire.

[raven socket]

This the Togo?

[covert surge]

Yeh

Just wires and exposed electrical arc everywhere

maybe a small fire somewhere because lol heatcap 4

feral energy

[ornate verge]

Oh it looks angry as hell. I love it

[covert surge]

Anything with chainsaw claws cannot be a calm and collected mech

[rain topaz]

If your mech doesn't have a perpetual electrical fire is it really a mech?

[spring creek]

If y’all need help with the lcp I like to consider myself pretty good at it

[raven socket]

Thank you for the offer, but it shouldn't be necessary

I very much like doing the LCP for this; I wouldn't want someone else messing with the LCP and requiring me to go over it afterwards to ensure compliance with how I already do things

No offence meant, of course

[spring creek]

Not at all, I totally get having your own system

[tawdry jungle]

so for thresher on the rev, is that on any of the dice being maxed out, or just one

[covert surge]

All dice maxed

So its rare to get that second attack but hey overkill helps with the reroll or you may get a Brutal 1 crit

[tawdry jungle]

ok i'm glad we're both acknowledging that

[covert surge]

base revved profile is very competitive with Torch already

[tawdry jungle]

so game plan is basically just run in and graze everything you can while not exploding?

[covert surge]

throw as many overkill dice as possible at the GM and use it to ping pong in and out of DZ

which grants you crazy mobility and heat gun capability on top of your usual weapon damage

and glancing blow doesn't do anything to your on-hit heat and other efffect

so you can just graze a bunch of people while modulating your heat with Ride the Line

[tawdry jungle]

ok, I think i'm seeing the lines

I'd love to test this thing

[covert surge]

you can do like 4 heat with one skirmish on an optimal set up which is like half an NPC heat cap already

not counting weapon damage

[covert surge]

Do let us know when you test the mech, the whole supplement is in dire need of playtest data because i am solely focused on getting through the roadmap and brain blasting right now

[tawdry jungle]

I’ve got no idea when I could, I’d want to but really there’s not much I could do unless someone ran a data collection test

[indigo gulch]

I'll see if any of my players are interested in trying out TM&T licenses, but they're currently headstrong in their builds and one of them is testing out Phaon Crescent from Burning Memories

So I'll see what I can do

[covert surge]

🙏

[indigo gulch]

Yoooohohohoho

That's sick

[rain topaz]

Very dope

[indigo gulch]

The face and torso remind me of an Imperial Knight

[cerulean smelt]

If I saw that thing running at me I'd astrally project just to get away from it

[rain topaz]

I love the shape of it

[covert surge]

feral slasher villain with a chainsaw type vibe