#Terk Mech & Tech

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hardy citrus
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i got snakes

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thrown fold knife is also pretty funny

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..........wait.

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OH NOOOOO

hybrid ledge
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yup

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just railgun people

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there is also just the classic Nanocarbon sword

hardy citrus
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i think throwing this is really funny

hushed fieldBOT
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Holy crap, Terashima Blade Duilius.

covert surge
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real blocking gameplay

hybrid ledge
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oh boy

hardy citrus
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Lord Stance Painted Lady Rail Accelerator

hybrid ledge
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Lord Stance Duilius sounds scarier NGL

hardy citrus
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no no i agree

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im thinking about whats funny to throw

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lord stance duilius sounds like a legit menace

hushed fieldBOT
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Then again, we ran a Terashima Caliban in Wallflower, but that was due to some friendly GM nonsense. We er, may or may not have committed corporate espionage.

hybrid ledge
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can't touch him

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tho, I still like Reactive Weave Duilius

hardy citrus
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can free actions only be taken on your turn, i forget

covert surge
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I am still surprised Reactive Weave is only LL1 and 1SP

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that is immensely powerful at such a cheap cost

hardy citrus
covert surge
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yes

hardy citrus
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ok, ok, dang but phew

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i was picturing a build where you could like
Caestus + #_Ur Packet

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set it up so you can just haunt, bash someone back down

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but if free actions are your turn only, its fine, we good

hushed fieldBOT
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Okay so.. I'm the sys-member currently playing LANCER with a group.. What heavy or superheavy weapon pairs well with a Terashima Blade?

hybrid ledge
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I remember I made a Drake with Reactive Weave and Armor Lock

hardy citrus
hybrid ledge
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thing was just unkillable

hushed fieldBOT
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Yeah, Duilius.

hardy citrus
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Lord Stance Duilius?

covert surge
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Terashima blade shaped like a Gladius

hushed fieldBOT
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Oh that's a point, I'd be spending most of my time in Lord Stance.

hardy citrus
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thats why i ask!

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time to see if theres a heavy melee that stuns

hushed fieldBOT
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..Oh, that's an idea! Pair it with the Crisis Catalogue's Maul for its reliable 6 2d6+5 at threat 2. It's great.

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And if I ever can't barrage, just draw my sidesword.

hardy citrus
covert surge
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oh yeah Combat Drill is extremely mean with its corepower

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since its a deterministic ram that also micro stun

hybrid ledge
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Duilius + Reactive Weave is silly, now he's just teleporting

covert surge
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so it activates both the overkill clause, and reduce their eva to 5 for the big drill

hushed fieldBOT
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Oh no. Combat Drill Duilius. That's.. Scary.

hybrid ledge
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go for Duilius 2, Metalmark 1, Atlas 3

hushed fieldBOT
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But, it's a LL3, isn't it?

hardy citrus
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nanobot whip is funny for Caestus, cause you pull enemies close to you, setting up for Caestus

hushed fieldBOT
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Problem is, we're at LL3, so.. Getting Combat Drill + Terashima Duilius is a while off.

hardy citrus
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OH WAIT

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THE GMS SUPERHEAVYS FROM DUSTGRAVE, as well

hushed fieldBOT
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What, the Tempest?

hardy citrus
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ye

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superheavy melee, AP, Overkill, Knockback 2, threat 2, 3d6+2 Energy

hybrid ledge
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Tempest Slaps

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Somebody in our game once used it on an Empaakai

hardy citrus
hushed fieldBOT
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Yeah, we do.

hardy citrus
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(Superheavy mounting, plus the other gms core bonus that gives another mount)

hybrid ledge
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tho, i'm currently sticking to my NucCav Hacker Tukhachevsky

sinful turtle
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Is it me, or am I not understanding the design principle behind the shenaniganery of Dagon? I wish to be enlightened, but my brain is smooth and lacking in wrinkles. I'll read the license over and try to think a bit because I'm not sure how to build this, or what it wants to do πŸ˜“

hybrid ledge
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if you can see it, it can see you

covert surge
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Its very strong at countering tech attackers by existing within their sensor range

hardy citrus
hybrid ledge
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that means it's sensor range is always exactly enough to do stuff to you if you can do stuff to it

sinful turtle
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I note the Spear is an incredible tool for helping allies out of a sticky spot.

hushed fieldBOT
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The problem is, what do we pick up as our 3rd license level whilst we wait for the Terashima Blade?

hardy citrus
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its whether you want more damage from tempest, or more reliable and knockback from the maul

covert surge
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It can redirrect tech and has stuff that trigger when it successfully defend against tech, and it has incredibly high E-def

hybrid ledge
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Dagon is silly because it basically always has enough sensor range

covert surge
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You can also build it as a pseduo striker stacking enlightenment, iconoclast and the spear+2 NHP and just zap people for a billion damage each time you use an NHP action

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Which the protocol counts as

hybrid ledge
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Dagon with Sekhmet

sinful turtle
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That's incredibly funny, and I love the idea. Honestly, thinking of being a literal walking tech attack magnet, stacking HP out the whazoo, and just wading into the throng beside our Balor to beat people with a Sentient Spear that Hates Your Statuses is just amazing to me.

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Starting to download... I think this will be an exciting experiment.

hybrid ledge
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if you wanna be silly

hardy citrus
hybrid ledge
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get Beckoner on Dagon

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if you can see Dagon..you are now in danger of being aggressively teleported

hardy citrus
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@sinful turtle heres me breaking down the dagon build when built for iconoclast

sinful turtle
hybrid ledge
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yes

hardy citrus
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not including the fact that transmuting spark is a line, not range, so it can hit multiple in theory

hybrid ledge
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also, he's surprisingly a solid vanguard build loaded up with double behold

hardy citrus
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nod nod

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the thing is, at higher levels, the iconoclast build can just be a bonus to whatever else youre doing

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so thats also nice

hybrid ledge
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but most of my Dagon builds are probably gonna be about punking people looking at him

hardy citrus
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its really easy to maximize iconoclast while also..... not having that be your main thing at higher levels

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Okay wait, again, bare with me cause this is cross-third-party

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it just hit me

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Painted Lady Rakshasa

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for throwing the DEV_A dagger

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thats FUNNY

hybrid ledge
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oh it's just melee data dart from legionaire

hardy citrus
hybrid ledge
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good sir, TUKHACHEVSKY disagrees

hardy citrus
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LOL

covert surge
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alternate idea: The SSC size 3 now gets even fucking faster

hardy citrus
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LOL

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oh my god

hybrid ledge
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become FSAT

hybrid ledge
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still just lovin Tukh

hardy citrus
covert surge
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hes the best

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he also gives you acces to just the worst backseat gamer as an NHP

hardy citrus
# hardy citrus its giving Gashadokuro

context: this are giant yokai, like building sized skeletons, that are found at mass graves and battlefields. to quote one website "If they should happen upon a human out late on the roads, the gashadokuro will silently creep up and catch their victims, crushing them in their hands or biting off their head."

hybrid ledge
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I gave my Tukh Frame the Callsign Noisy Boi

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because he's gonna be making violent fan noises

covert surge
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HA would like to firmly remind you that CreightonCoin is not officially licensed nor affiliated in anyway, nor can they be used as legal tender within the Purview

hardy citrus
hybrid ledge
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I mean, it's SSC..needs to be a Moth Name

hardy citrus
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Polyphemus moths are a member of the giant silkmoth family, named for, you know, THE cyclops

hardy citrus
covert surge
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Phasma/Specter moth is a possibility

slow delta
hardy citrus
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yep

hybrid ledge
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yes

slow delta
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hm

hardy citrus
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the largest moth species

hybrid ledge
hardy citrus
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you right, you right

hybrid ledge
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I still vote for Hercules

hardy citrus
hybrid ledge
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cuz biggest SSC mech

slow delta
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oh thats pretty

hardy citrus
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This is a Glasswing Butterfly

covert surge
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why is there a Forger-Me-Not butterfly

hardy citrus
hardy citrus
raven socket
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I love that

hardy citrus
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This is the Clearwing

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theyre both of the genus Greta

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oh, wait, yea

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Greta is just the genus for most clear wing butterflies

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Greta is, hilariously, an option

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just picturing it now. Getting a call over your comms. "Guys we're fucked. They brought Greta."

hardy citrus
slow delta
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not to distract from the Ubermoth of Phasingtastic Doom

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but the Gorshkov might just be my favorite mech on the roster so far

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it just VIBES

covert surge
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Tacticool overload

slow delta
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this is what I think about every time

hardy citrus
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lay the field, then shoot.

slow delta
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yeh

covert surge
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Skeet shooting

slow delta
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here's your Seal Team 6

hardy citrus
# slow delta yeh

i saw it and felt complete and total terror, because i have an iskander alt that can attach mines to its built in launcher, and drop them next to targets

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so just. shoot. drop. shoot. boom.

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even on regular iskander, just littering the entire land with mines then shooting a chain reaction of explosions

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its a fun combo

slow delta
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it sounds like a spectacular "I do this really cool thing hlafway through the combat" type trick

hardy citrus
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Gorshkov just being like, this covert ops cut throat mech, that just, has counters to most things in its bag of tricks

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is so fun

slow delta
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yeah

hardy citrus
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slap some gorgon on it too to make it even more malicious

slow delta
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Sinister Gorshkov

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I dont know why "Monopoly Man Mustache" and red eyes means sinister to me

hardy citrus
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Go full invisible hidden, drop sentinel drones, get mimic mesh, scorpion v70, vorpal gun

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just

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sit there quietly, unknown, hidden, not part of combat, till literally anything happens

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and. die.

slow delta
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Wild

hardy citrus
slow delta
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GORGONSHKOV

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I LOVE THAT

sinful turtle
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I think I might be able to convince the DM to let me Cult of Dagon in our Wallflower game! It may be suitable, it may not be, but regardless... they sealed the vault. But will you come and see?

hardy citrus
slow delta
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oh my goodnesss

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that's incredible

covert surge
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the spine of the size 3 SSC kidnapper, will work on it more later

hardy citrus
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this would be the slowest/least evasive SSC mech, right?

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i might be misremembering

covert surge
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its Monarch stats

hardy citrus
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ah yea that makes sense

covert surge
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w a little bit of tweak, but it has the same speed and evasion as monarc

steep pebble
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@covert surge @raven socket

raven socket
raven socket
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Is anyone having an issue with #_Ur Packet not being addable to mechs?

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It's been reported but I can't seem to replicate it

hushed fieldBOT
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It doesn't work on my machine.

raven socket
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I have a theory

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Let's see if it's right

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Found the issue

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Fixed, it was because I forgot to make it so the Sacrificial Spear doesn't count towards your AI cap

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Keep in mind you still won't be able to combine the packet with comp/cons or other NHPs etc

hardy citrus
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ahhh thatll do it

raven socket
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You'll wanna redownload the LCP to grab the fix

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I am a competent LCP maker and definitely never accidentally introduce licence-breaking bugs into my projects

rain topaz
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hey, this may have been asked before but i couldnt find an answer to it, how do mods interact with sputnik attacks?

covert surge
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Still works, half damage clause takes first priority and applies to any triggered effect and even Paracausal, limited takes from your stock

rain topaz
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ok, thanks

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also, would the adjacency extension from house guard interact with *drone entanglement

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like could one have a drone 2 spaces away and still have entanglement?

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(outside of the core bonus)

covert surge
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Yes

rain topaz
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woop

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thank you good sir

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do individual sputnik drones count as different weapons for the purpose of the uncle comp/con?

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no, right? cause the only way you can attack with the sputniks is the command thing, right?

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(my apologies if this is a bombardment of a questions, i honestly didnt expect to get a response so quickly)

covert surge
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The only way to attack is with the command

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This cover autopod uncle etc

covert surge
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Someone should make another lovecraft frame with art so i can make a Pillar Men edit with Cthonian and Dagon

pliant token
covert surge
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πŸ€” πŸ€” πŸ€”

sinful turtle
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Call me curious, but does #ur_packet count as an AI for the purposes of Iconoclast, and can you take the Horus CB to pair it with the Sacrificial Spear? I'm trying to build like - a Bog Standard Dagon to try out all the unique pieces at once, and then hybridizing with other third party materials and such for funsies.

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Talent choice is funny

covert surge
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You can do it without a CB

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Ur packet counts as AI, the spear counts as AI but doesnt count against AI cap

sinful turtle
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Oh, very cool! Thematically, it has nothing to do with NHPs, right? It's just... a mystery from the metavault that you really ought to come and see?

covert surge
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Yes, i specifically did not make it an NHP because as weird as NHP are they are relatively understood and standardized

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This is something else entirely

pliant token
# covert surge πŸ€” πŸ€” πŸ€”

I'll say this - you google Lovecraft mech, you will probably get Sheng Lam's art. He's a fantastic artist, and the designs he presents are quite interesting, but I feel like he didn't really get the assignment. They're all just very literal illustrations of eldritch physicality in mech form

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where are the angles that should not be

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where are the dimensions the human mind was not meant to perceive

rain topaz
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do sputniks get the benefits of a core bonus like auto-stabilizing hardpoints?

raven socket
hybrid ledge
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Sputniks with Krakatoas

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who cares if it's halved i'm covering the map in fire

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or. if you wanna be really silly...Sputniks with Slag Cannons

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let's really play minecraft

rain topaz
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Sadly you cant have Sputniks with krakatoas as theres no way to get a heavy mount on a rat king

covert surge
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No core

covert surge
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that spooky size 3 SSC i was brainstorming last night

raven socket
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Let's seee

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Oh yeah, is the frundsberg ready for me to work on?

covert surge
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I think so, no one has pointed out anything borked yet

glass saffron
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Oh this is some funny stuff
Am I correct in assuming you could take damage multiple times for Ghostwalk to extend it multiple times?

covert surge
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you take damage once, then extend it until you can exist in a non overlapping space

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so if you go down like a really long wall you can just phase across half the map in one boost

glass saffron
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That is exactly what I thought, then thought "No it can't possibly do that", and now am very excited it actually does

covert surge
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its niche enough that I think its fine and 1d3 ap is nothing to scoff at either

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another version was just 1 ap for each space extended

glass saffron
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The idea of looking for straight lines where you can ghostwalk over as many people as possible is so good

covert surge
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ghost walk through a dense group of enemy

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grab some unfortunate soul

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run off with them through a wall with your like speed 12 or someshit mech

glass saffron
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Question, does Chilling Presence increase the length of a Ghostwalk you're in the middle of? I'd assume so but double checking

pliant token
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Suggestion for name: the SSC Blanchard

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Alternatively, the SSC Hepialus

covert surge
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Yes it does extend

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Euerythra phasma, the red-tailed specter, is a moth of the family Erebidae. It was described by Leon F. Harvey in 1876. It is found in the south-central United States, including Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas Tennessee and Texas.

raven socket
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I like Phasma, personally

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Good name for it

covert surge
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Just be careful not to overshoot :P

raven socket
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Here's a question

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What happens if the movement would take you off the map?

covert surge
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Actually i should add that clause to the CorePower incase you ghost walk through a dense group and end up on the other side of the map

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You stop at map edge as usual

open ginkgo
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It's an interesting mech, thats for sure

covert surge
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Ghostwalk extend clause is optional btw so you still stop at obstruction if you dont choose to take the damage

pliant token
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Oh! This is actually an interesting opportunity to make another SSC non-humanoid mech, i.e. one like the Death's Head. Did you consider what you want it to look like?

covert surge
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πŸ‘»

glass saffron
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Okay, I feel like something in the base game or the nuances of the wording means this doesn't work, but I can't find it, please prove me wrong-
Start Ghostwalking, Casually approach enemy mech
Overlap that enemy during your movement
Because you can grapple while moving with your Articulation Sync, and the check for overlapping mechs only happens at end of movement, you can grapple the enemy while they are inside you (Assuming that Adjacent's definition of "Within 1 space" includes 0 spaces, sounds like it to me)
You continue moving while dragging the intangible grappled enemy, but because I think something intangible is still counted as overlapping for ghostwalk, you now have an obstruction that moves with you.
Because you are always overlapping the enemy in question, continue sliding forever until you hit the edge of the map and/or universe, or use a free action to end the grapple

covert surge
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once you grapple the enemy they become intangible, two intangible objects cant overlap

glass saffron
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As in, they aren't allowed to, or they don't count as it?

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(I don't know if/where the intagible definition is extended to beyond the Fade Cloak)

covert surge
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so the WoT (Word of Terk????) is that you can't do that because it would cause two objects to overlap

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INTANGIBLE characters can move through obstructions such as characters or terrain but not end their turns in them. They, their actions, and any effects they own or control can only affect other Intangible characters and objects. Tangible characters can move through INTANGIBLE characters and objects but not end their turns inside their spaces and can’t affect them in any way.

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so intangible overlapping only applies to tangible-intangible interaction, if you are both intangible you play the game as normal

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I should add a clause to transposition to clarify

pliant token
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iirc the intangible stuff got properly coded with the calendula

glass saffron
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Yeah, even without Ghostwalk shenanigans the "Hold someone inside you" nonsense would hold true for any bigger mech using Articulation Sync, since it lets you do a whole grapple between starting to move (Letting you overlap smaller mechs) and ending the move (Not allowed to be overlapping)

covert surge
glass saffron
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My work here is done

covert surge
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Blackbeard is gonna love this

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just drive-by kidnapping with grapple swing

glass saffron
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Okay I can't find the rules about how grappling and dragging people near obstructions/terrain works, but, is there any possible nonsense that could be had by intangibly grappling and dragging someone so that they're in an obstruction when your Ghostwalk ends

covert surge
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It would just stop the movement

glass saffron
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Extremely dramatized example

indigo gulch
glass saffron
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This could happen easily in a much less contrived gamestate, especially if you’re grappling a larger target, this just adds the extra wrinkle that the nearest empty space for the victim could be pretty far away in theory

covert surge
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it actually just stops them before they enter the wall if theres no space to move them into

glass saffron
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As in, the situation pictured would leave them up against the wall, but if it was a Perfectly-Size-3-Grappling-a-size-1-sized hole instead they would go through the wall to end up in it?

covert surge
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yes

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paging your local kobold player to build a fortress with a perfectly size 3 grappling a size 1 hole in it

glass saffron
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Kobold, the workhorse of silly hypotheticals

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That's a waaaacky interaction and has very interesting implications on the mental math you have to do about Ghostwalking- but, it works!

Actually I can maybe squeeze one more question out of this, is the grappled enemy released at the last empty space they'd be in at any point in the ghostwalk, at the start of the ghostwalk, somewhere in the middle?

covert surge
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last empty space, and the grapple doesn't actually break, you stop with them

raven socket
covert surge
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until valid space, if theres no valid space to stop at during the line you can't even activate it

glass saffron
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So you lose your slide-as-far-as-you-want privilages while grappling someone, since the Extended-Ghostwalk end condition doesn't account for the enemy

raven socket
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Aah, gotcha

covert surge
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yes

raven socket
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Oh yeah, need something in DMs

covert surge
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you get enough speed as it is to kidnap people, being able to slide as far as you want while holding someone would just be wayy to much kidnapping

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but you can still kinda do it if extended ghostwalk would just deposit enemy in a non-overlapping space

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positioning very important with this mech

glass saffron
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So optimal kidnapping terrain looks something like this, and if there's an obstruction anywhere the part of the path the enemy occupies, it's all invalid?

covert surge
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consider the end point of any of the movement, if it would deposit an enemy at an overlapping space then the movement stops at the last valid space for both you

glass saffron
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So this would be allowed?

glass saffron
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Okay, I think no further questions your honor

covert surge
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πŸ€” you cant boost while grappling πŸ€” I might just turn Ghostwalk into its own bespokes quick action rather than hooking into boost

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homebrew is a sysiphean task

glass saffron
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Grappling mid-boost is still on the table but requiring an LL1 may not be desirable

covert surge
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i think it will just stop your boost the moment you grapple instead of dragging your dude with you as intended

glass saffron
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The phrasing "neither character can BOOST or take reactions for the duration of the grapple" feels like it's talking about the instantaneous act of boosting and not the continued movement after- Plus, the whole of Ghostwalk is an "Instead", so even if picking someone up would stop a Boost, the continued ghostwalk isn't that

covert surge
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gunna turn it into a bespoke QA to save me some headace

slow delta
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seems like a good idea

raven socket
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Frundsberg LCP has been sent to Terk for review

hardy citrus
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Im so curious what the Phasma is gonna look like

pliant token
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Hoping for spider ghost

open ginkgo
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A totally normal mech/ candleja

hardy citrus
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Can't wait to play my SSC phasma, "me when i fuckin get you" /lh

open ginkgo
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Hah!

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(Also jhc am I old)

hybrid ledge
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Phasma Finna be like:

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I'll be real, despite it being giant it needs like really lanky legs and arms

wraith birch
covert surge
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the key visual I have in mind is uncomfortably long arms/limbs and an energy field reseembling that of a veil

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because ghost/banshee

hybrid ledge
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I dig it

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Needs a really freaky "face"

covert surge
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@here Frundsberg is released and the LCP is updated

raven socket
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@wraith birch ^

covert surge
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big

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big sword

raven socket
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beeg sword

wraith birch
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ZWEIHANDER, BUT MECH-SIZED

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YEAHHHH

raven socket
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ughhh
It's 8AM and I still need to do the changelog post and send out update emails before I sleep

wraith birch
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Anyway, I'll check it out later, in class currently.

wraith birch
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Don't push yourself too hard.

raven socket
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I need to stay up for a vaccine appointment anyway, so

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emails sent

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The emails take a bit more effort than the update posts, since it's gotta look nice in email format + I want it to be well-put-together for the people who donated

raven socket
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all the keywords in the world :D

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Very fun

wraith birch
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Finally, we have something to walk up to a Goliath with and say "Pick a fight with someone your own size."

raven socket
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Mhmm!

covert surge
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dunk on them haters

vapid scroll
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ohh that's a big boy

alpine kayak
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The art includes a lot of mechs that aren’t in the lcp

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Will they be added later ?

vapid scroll
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yeah i think so

wraith birch
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You can see the doc and vote for the next mech here.

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Speaking of which, I need to go to vote for a new frame since Terk and Nexa already made the big boi Frundsberg.

raven socket
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I'm definitely not biased at all when I suggest you vote for the Brudenell

wraith birch
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Sorry, already voted for Goldstreak.

raven socket
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Nice to see the goldstreak getting some love

wraith birch
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Brudenell "just slap more thrusters on it" is funny, but I love the kintsugi vibe of the Goldstreak.

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Yes I had to look up how to properlly spell "kintsugi" but I still think it's a neat concept.

raven socket
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Very cool concept, aye

wraith birch
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Also, now that you released the Frundsberg I need to go port another one of my characters to lancer now.

raven socket
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Yoinking a landsknecht and plopping them a few thousands years in the future?

covert surge
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The one of like 2 ppl that votes goldstreak lmao

raven socket
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Oh yeah, how are the rankings looking atm, terk?

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It's been a lil' while

wraith birch
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The original was like a fantasy character abducted into another fantasy universe so it's not that weird at this point for this character lmao.

covert surge
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Suleiman, Brudenell, Lord, Kishka, Aquilegia, Yermak, Morgan, Goldstreak

raven socket
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Heck yeah, 2nd place

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Also I can get that clarification in from the reddit thread in real quick, terk

wraith birch
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Question, Terk, does the Push of Pike interrupts movement regardless of the skirmish hitting? Or does it only interrupts if the attack hits.

raven socket
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Why do all of my version numbers end up being 0.X.2

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It's always a .2 at the end

covert surge
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on hit

wraith birch
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Anyway, to compliment the melee barb, now we'll need a range only Frundsberg.

raven socket
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I'll give it a couple more minutes to collect clarifications then I'll post the updated LCP

covert surge
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crashing blow still cost apropriate ammount of action

raven socket
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Yep, I saw

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I mean if anything else gets clarified while I'm eat my breakfast dinner

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I am a responsible adult and can be trusted with flexible work hours

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mhmm

wraith birch
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Do you choose the type of attacks with the zweihander whenever you attack, or do you need a protocol to swap between them like the terashima?

covert surge
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Whenever you attack

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Since they dont have passive effects like terashima

wraith birch
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Yeah, makes sense.

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A bit of clarification text might be good though, just to clear it up.

covert surge
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Push of Pike isnt overwatch so it + thor lets you pseudo overwatch with it

wraith birch
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Wait, Push of Pike works with superheavy?

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Oh, with Thor, okay.

raven socket
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"You choose which of this weapon's profiles to use whenever you make an attack."

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That work?

wraith birch
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"You may choose the weapon's profile you use whenever you make an attack" maybe?

raven socket
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is it really a "may", since you have to choose?

wraith birch
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True.

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"You choose the weapon's profile you use whenever you make an attack" then, maybe.

raven socket
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Maybe

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Alright

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Anything else that needs clarification before I go to bed?

wraith birch
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Just the push of pike thing, but nothing else that I can really see. Goodnight!

raven socket
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I added a little bit to its text to clear that up

wraith birch
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Then it's good then.

raven socket
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Done and pushed

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to bed I go

cerulean smelt
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Fusion Pike my beloved

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instantly my favourite weapon now

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Slap that on a Tokugawa

covert surge
wraith birch
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Mythologically Accurate Atlas.

viscid snow
#

-- SSC Atlas @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
SSC Atlas 3, HA FRUNDSBERG 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Superheavy Mounting, Superior by Design
[ TALENTS ]
Executioner 3, Exemplar 2, Brutal 2, Duelist 2
[ STATS ]
HULL:2 AGI:4 SYS:0 ENGI:2
STRUCTURE:4 HP:15 ARMOR:0
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:8 REPAIR:3
TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+1
SPD:8 EVA:16 EDEF:6 SENSE:3 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
SUPERHEAVY MOUNT: Zweihander
FLEX MOUNT: Fusion Pike
MAIN MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
[ SYSTEMS ]
Blade Guard, Multi-Gear Maneuver System, "Iron Hand" Heat Shunt, Personalizations

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Back with a terrible (spectacular) build

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Super Heavy Atlas

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God what if it was using NucCav to combo with Iron Hand

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NucCav Atlas is a horror story

wraith birch
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I thought about putting NuCav on my Frundsberg build too, but I decided against it to focus more on defender role to fit with the character.

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I did stack opcal and Zheng's molten wreath on the zweihander though.

viscid snow
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Just to kill things harder hey?

wraith birch
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Maximum collateral damage.

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Not really, but I had license to spare at LL6 I figured molten wreath might be fun.

viscid snow
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Understandable, it's a good pickup

wraith birch
#
[ LICENSES ]
  HA FRUNDSBERG 3, IPS-N Drake 1, IPS-N Zheng 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Superior by Design, Overpower Caliber
[ TALENTS ]
  Pankrati 3, House Guard 3, Executioner 3
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:2 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:2
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:11 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:3 EVA:6 EDEF:8 SENSE:5 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
  MAIN MOUNT: Fusion Pike
  MAIN MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
  HEAVY MOUNT: Zweihander (Molten Wreathe) // Overpower Caliber
[ SYSTEMS ]
  THOR-Class NHP x3, Argonaut Shield```
This is my build currently.
viscid snow
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Quick question, the on crit effect for the Zweihander, it's not an accident that effect is only on the split profile right?

covert surge
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Nope

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Split is for when you need one enemy obliterated right now

viscid snow
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Baller

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Makes sense

covert surge
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Cleave is to become a blender, its plenty good with executioner

viscid snow
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It's a weapon for every occasion!

alpine kayak
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It’s very well balanced as well

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The 2 heat and overkill is very HA

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Though the burn melee heavy continues to allude us lol

viscid snow
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You just haven't been using the Tachyon Lance right if you're saying that, the backblast does wonders

wraith birch
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"Clear Backblast!"

"What?"

"Oh, you're hostile, nevermind!"

viscid snow
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My Sherman pilot a year back got the final hit on a boss like that. Entirely unnessacary but the funniest damn thing

ornate verge
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Dear god Frundsberg looks like an absolute juggernaut and I love it!

alpine kayak
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How does the falling trait work on it?

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Like if I jump on someone ?

covert surge
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land adjacent, make a melee attack (this still cost action), on hit, they take the fall damage instead of you

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yes, baseline, you can jump at people and whack them for an extra 3AP damage

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gets better if you put flight stuff on it

hushed fieldBOT
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This is normally the part where we start using it as a Defender, but it's S3 and er, we mostly do boarding actions so the Duilius is already a tough sell to make fit.

alpine kayak
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Not sure you can just choose to fall off a fly but still a cool little ribbon trait

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Side note you could always interrupt a jump with an action, not sure if that should change the wording

covert surge
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its has a specific part in the trait that say you can just choose to fall off a fly

dusky parrot
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does winning the Dagon contested System check to become a tech attack's target count as a successful system check and thus activate Data Lash ?

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would seems so to me

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but it's ambiguous

covert surge
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Yes.

dusky parrot
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how are you so fast

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I love the Dagon "oh you try to hack ? Suffer !" vibe

covert surge
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A door goes two ways

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Are you sure you want to open a connection?

dusky parrot
#

also, the Enthral system does not have Unique, is that normal ?

covert surge
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I guess it should but like no reason to get multiple anw

dusky parrot
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which wouldn't be possible with the Unique tag

mellow latch
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is the ActiveScanners system intended to work with Chomolungma's data siphon trait?

covert surge
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?

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Scan isnt a tech attack

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And if it was it would be kinda redundant innit, when you aoe scan, you scan each target in the aoe

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On scan:scan

pliant token
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huh

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is it a tech action? Like Lock On?

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Or is it undefined

covert surge
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Tech action

mellow latch
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Sorry, what I mean was when you scan with Chomodata siphon, can you use active scanners to AoE scan?

covert surge
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yes

lucid sorrel
lucid sorrel
# covert surge @here Frundsberg is released and the LCP is updated

(Apologies if this repeats anything people have already said)
At Arms Length is super fun, though I feel like you could get some crazy knockback out of this, especially with the War Pike (knockback 4 at LL3 is pretty hog wild, maybe this could be limited to while immobilized? or "when the Frund hits a target, it can choose to knock it back to the edge of the weapon's Threat"

Push of Pike gives great opportunity for control, but it kind of gives the Frund a second improved "Overwatch". This isn't inherently a bad thing, but making Push of Pike cost overwatch or deal half damage might help it be a little more reigned in

Crashing Blow is impeccable, no notes

Indomitable Does this mean push of pike can be used 1/turn? or literally every time it would be triggered, with no limit? I like the concept (a strong spearman's stance that prevents approach) but limitless attack reactions feels like a lot for a passive

Forlorn Hope is cool, a bit complex, but I cannot throw stones from my glass house! It might help readability to make its effects bulleted, like the Tortuga's core

Stats Numbers wise, compared to the Vlad or Balor, it feels on par, but I think the Frund's size of 3 and vast array of strong traits pushes it a bit beyond the curve of other frames (4 positive traits + core passive)

In all, my initial balance ideas might be to make Pike Wall and Indomitable one thing, something like "while immobilized, you can use Push of Pike", and would maybe suggest that "Crashing Blow" could become a system or even a Talent, and then give it some negative trait, like "slow" or "while immobilized, gain difficulty against adjacent enemies"

As for equipment, I might suggest "Iron Hand" is pretty good as a protocol, and might be more balanced as a quick action? That said, I could be wrong (being in the danger zone and grappling is a relatively specific situation), and playtesting it would probably reveal the right answer

steep pebble
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@covert surge @raven socket

raven socket
steep pebble
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Thank you!

wraith birch
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Now that I think about it, the Frundsberg's head looks kinda similar to Blackbeard's.

indigo gulch
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it looks like a Blackbeard and Barbarossa had a kid, and that kid really liked medieval warfare

winter temple
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-- HA Genghis @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N Blackbeard 1, HA Genghis 2, HA FRUNDSBERG 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Heatfall Coolant System, Overpower Caliber
[ TALENTS ]
Executioner 3, Nuclear Cavalier 3, Combined Arms 2, Brawler 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:2 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:4
STRUCTURE:4 HP:13 ARMOR:3
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:14 REPAIR:5
TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+2
SPD:4 EVA:8 EDEF:8 SENSE:5 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun cc_range3 cc_threat3 cc_damage_energy1d3+2
FLEX MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
MAIN MOUNT: Chain Axe cc_threat1 cc_damage_kinetic1d6
HEAVY MOUNT: Zweihander cc_threat2 cc_damage_kinetic2d6 cc_damage_energy1d6 // Overpower Caliber
[ SYSTEMS ]
"Iron Hand" Heat Shunt, Synthetic Muscle Netting, Auto-Cooler

raven socket
winter temple
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Though trying to figure out whether Auto Cooler or Explosive Vents would theoretically be better

winter temple
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-- HA TUKHACHEVSKY @ LL6 -- [ LICENSES ] HA Napoleon 3, HA TUKHACHEVSKY 3 [ CORE BONUSES ] Heatfall Coolant System, Superior by Design [ TALENTS ] Nuclear Cavalier 3, Black Thumb 2, Crack Shot 2, Technophile 2 [ STATS ] HULL:2 AGI:0 SYS:2 ENGI:4 STRUCTURE:4 HP:17 ARMOR:1 STRESS:4 HEATCAP:15 REPAIR:5 TECH ATK:+2 LIMITED:+2 SPD:4 EVA:6 EDEF:10 SENSE:10 SAVE:14 [ WEAPONS ] Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Displacer / Nexus (Light) [ SYSTEMS ] VELES-Class NHP x4, Blinkshield, Stasis Bolt, Maskirovka Suite, Malware Delivery Pack

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Veles + Displacer + Overcharge = ☒️

covert surge
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the heatgun experience

winter temple
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[get_stressed.omif]

raven socket
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NOT AGAIN

covert surge
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thankfully this is just someone going through all the docs and bolding things

raven socket
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thank fuck

covert surge
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i saw it before opening the doc and contemplated just scrapping Rat King

raven socket
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lmao

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"your frame has now been deprecated"

covert surge
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Wanna see a tank defender swallowtail alt I was working on for fun?

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Finally, big swallowtail

wraith birch
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OH YEAHHHHH

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Okay, but honestly big swallowtail sounds kinda fun.

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Increased height probably helps with spotting people and stuff.

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Also SSC could do with another defender tbh.

pliant token
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Civil Defense? So it's the cut Combine tank from Half Life 2

covert surge
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Its like a frontier defense thing

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Deployed to newly establish colonies to serve as a sentry to potential threats, controlling dangerous fauna, detecting and raising alarms if danger approaches like a big ole monster or pirates

sturdy drift
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Swoleotail?

covert surge
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its size 3 now

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big friend

hushed valve
covert surge
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Swoletail says: do not approach

hardy citrus
covert surge
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πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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I made them as creative excercise. If ppl really wants them and Nexa is willing they might me a seperate LCP but its pretty low priority compared to the mainline project

hardy citrus
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fair, fair! makes sense

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i was genuinely more curious than anything, i think your design ideas are cool

hardy citrus
hushed fieldBOT
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I like the idea of a rugged, outlander Swallowtail for miltias and security services, but I do think it should be a Size 2.

covert surge
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y

covert surge
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The Raleigh's wet dream

wraith birch
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Oh that's pretty cool.

cerulean smelt
covert surge
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Nothing, sometime when i have an idea i write it down in a document to pull from when i need to make a liscence

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Theres also this weird thing

viscid snow
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I am a fan

viscid snow
covert surge
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For gunslinger, and so you dont hit your own dudes

viscid snow
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Ah

wraith birch
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It's nice to target multiple dudes with one attack.

viscid snow
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That makes a whole hell of a lot more sense

wraith birch
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It's like a slightly better missile racks combo.

viscid snow
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Not sure why I didn't think burst hit allies

wraith birch
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Well, kinda, it's not equivalent.

covert surge
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On nah you cant stack to obliterate one guy like that :P

wraith birch
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Three aux missiles packed into one, but you can't single target hit.

covert surge
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The purpose is just absolutely huge aoe potshots but terrible at actually focusing one thing down

wraith birch
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Probably really good grunt killer.

covert surge
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Yep

wraith birch
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The "I don't have a favorite, I hate you all equally."

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Also known as the "fuck you, and fuck you, and fuck you too."

covert surge
#

Monarch and Viceroy also gets good use out of it too

indigo gulch
covert surge
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hmm i might use this for Hecaton atually

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since its kinda a HA mech but Horus like Manti

covert surge
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2nd version of this boi

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rewrote almost everything

sinful turtle
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Cosmic Blade

covert surge
#

grand name but the actual weapon is just an aux melee :P

sinful turtle
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Even Aux Melee deserves a place among the stars. πŸ™‚

open ginkgo
#

Moonlight Smallsword

covert surge
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little fun fact

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this mech started out as me being the extremely stereotypical homebrewer trying to make a Horus Dragon that spews fire

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:P

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then i started thinking what if spew fire was a portal to the fire dimension and went from there

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its still named Dragon.psd in my folder

pliant token
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I always wanted to make a horus mech named after this particular deep cut

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no pun intended

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The principal is the same as the transformation of the original megatron - what if its cp is just that it turns into a sword for another mech to use

raven socket
#

Might be a wee bit before the geryon is ready, btw
Since I have a DCS op tonight

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But I like what I see, from what I was sent

hushed fieldBOT
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Okay I already love the Geryon, just for those Wisp vibes.

open ginkgo
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...It's weird how alot of warframes could be cool Lancer concepts, and visca versa

hardy citrus
viscid snow
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I'm so here for it

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One more blaster Horus frame my beloved

summer plume
#

Hiii, question one of my players (who really insisted in playing a melee barbarossa) has absolutely fell in love with the Frundsberg. I read over it and it look balanced with other mechs (other than being able to spam crashing blow so you can both boost and get 2 skirmish every turn unless i'm missing something) - any balance considerations I should have?

wraith birch
summer plume
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Ahh, that's good to hear.

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Oh yeah I'm reading it now, what's free is crashing, not the attack, mb.

wraith birch
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Other than that, you can always playtest and give feedback to Terk if you find anything particularly broken.

potent ridge
covert surge
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I only now discovered the accept all suggested edit button

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no longer do i have to press accept on 57 suggested edit that bolds things and add a comma

potent ridge
#

one small step for man

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Oh I didnt notice sun boi got his named changed to Geryon

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was wondering who that was

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im guessing hecatoncheires was a bit too much of a mouthful

viscid snow
#

I am so looking forward to the Geryon (mostly just to sell it to my players)

hushed valve
covert surge
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The fusion lance did end up making its way to the Geryon liscense

limpid obsidian
#

hey, just been looking through this lcp and spotted that the Tukhachevsky has an empty "on attack" descriptor. is this here on accident or is it not pulling some text?

covert surge
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Accidento

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Its not hiding a hidden effect

limpid obsidian
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Noted, time to cook a person

raven socket
#

But it's waiting on 0.10.0.0 (the geryon)

covert surge
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back at it again with the random feymood, rough draft of definitely not Equilbrium

open ginkgo
#

Interesting but... why would you take explosive damage to extend the hyper-stimulants? Would make more sense if it was something that impaired the pilot/made them worse at things for a bit, unless you meant somekinda super additive to the fuel/engine

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But yeah I like the vibe of it!

raven socket
#

Hey, just a note
Been feeling pretty shit medically the last couple days
Hoping to get the geryon done tomorrow though

open ginkgo
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Hope you feel better

raven socket
#

Sorry for the wait, everyone

raven socket
open ginkgo
#

RL comes first, no need to say sorry.

covert surge
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The pilot is being a mini-asura for a moment, and is making the mech do things at speed that its not meant to handle

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So explosive damage is your actual mech breaking under the strain of doing it for too long

open ginkgo
#

Ah okay, that makes sense

lucid sorrel
# covert surge https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tDmJezAsVOX2FppIuYxKvhdfAzem4hpE96qw5ycBMdw/...

This frame is interesting! I like the idea of being a very agile and reflexive striker

I think Perfect Positioning and Hyper-Reflex are too strong. A full damage skirmish reaction that you can trigger every turn is incredibly strong, and with a base evasion of 12, attacks are going to miss you out the wazoo. Just as an example, throw a Mortar on this and you're raining hell left and right without a care in the world! One of these needs an adjustment, imo, a limitation or a debuff or something.

A reaction attack with a trigger more common than normal overwatch will lead to this player being way more influential on the field than any of their squadmates, even an active core Tortuga

pliant token
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Unless you specify that perfect positioning or FLOW STATE can only be triggered from an aux/aux mount

covert surge
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Maybe ill remove a mount so it trade the ability to barrage for skirmish off turn

pliant token
#

that'll probably still lead to players always taking the extra mount core bonus so they can have the best of both worlds

glass saffron
#

Let it be known I saw the Carrying Handle and immediately thought "Does this re-break the Phasma"

I'm going to guess "Not dramatically"

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Unless the handle counts as a grapple in which case I think it's fully safe

glass saffron
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This posted in #homebrew-design, felt like dredging up the Phasma was too much for that chat
#homebrew-design message

hardy citrus
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Oh lmao

covert surge
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For ball

hardy citrus
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Ohhhh ok yea yea that makes sense

covert surge
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Suleiman continues to be a wacky frame

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give enemy overshield dab

cosmic steppe
#

The text on Break Blade says "contested attack role". Can that be a tech attack?

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basically, can you choose to respond to a melee attack with a contested tech attack?

potent ridge
#

I dont think ive ever seen anyone do that before in these contested rolls

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Then again sometimes they mention if the contested attack is melee thinkster

winter temple
#

-- IPS-N StΓΆrtebeker @ LL6 -- <<ON THE LEASH>> [ LICENSES ] SSC PAINTED LADY 1, IPS-N Raleigh 2, IPS-N Caliban 3 [ CORE BONUSES ] Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints, Integrated Weapon [ TALENTS ] Vanguard 3, Combined Arms 3, Hacker 2, Duelist 1 [ STATS ] HULL:2 AGI:2 SYS:4 ENGI:0 STRUCTURE:4 HP:17 ARMOR:1 STRESS:4 HEATCAP:5 REPAIR:6 TECH ATK:+4 LIMITED:+0 SPD:6 EVA:12 EDEF:11 SENSE:8 SAVE:13 [ WEAPONS ] INTEGRATED WEAPON: Hand Cannon FLEX MOUNT: Blackjack Cabled Dagger FLEX MOUNT: Blackjack Cabled Dagger HEAVY MOUNT: HHS-155 CANNIBAL // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints [ SYSTEMS ] β€œRoland” Chamber, IFF Spoof, Hardpoint Reinforcement, Personalizations, Spike Charges x2, Armament Redundancy

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twin cabledagger sounds fun on a stort

viscid snow
#

And that Cannibal is a damn good heavy weapon to strap in

covert surge
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Its a contested melee attack roll i forgor to put that in πŸ’€

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Also yes more melee loading build πŸ’ͺ

pliant token
#

Just for my edification - are contested rolls in themselves not defined as something else, e.g. tech action or free action? is a contested roll its own category?

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I ask because there are systems/talents/etc. that can synergise with these things - knowing if contested rolls are excluded just helps me frame the mechanical implications

covert surge
#

It do be just a roll

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Like JK2

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And stasis bolt

viscid snow
#

With the TH2 Tomahawk from Painted Lady, what is the Agility Check rolling against?

arctic hull
#

Checks are always against 10.

viscid snow
#

Ah cool :)

stable jungle
#

Hey. Loving the lcp. Buuut one moment kinda brushed me the wrong way.
And i know. Memes, and stereotypes, yes. But really tho. Those are the parts of history most people are not proud about. And said events put many hardships on people living at that time. It's in the same area as naming the ability 9/11. It might be funny to some, but come on. Not cool.

formal juniper
#

I couldn't sleep because of this idea.

Oh so tiny. But oh, oh so strong.

-- IPS-N Caliban @ LL9 --
[ LICENSES ]
  HA Sherman 3, IPS-N Caliban 3, HA FRUNDSBERG 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Gyges Frame, Improved Armament, Superior by Design
[ TALENTS ]
  Pankrati 3, Executioner 3, Duelist 3, Exemplar 3
[ STATS ]
  HULL:3 AGI:2 SYS:2 ENGI:4
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:17 ARMOR:2
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:11 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+2
  SPD:4 EVA:10 EDEF:10 SENSE:3 SAVE:16
[ WEAPONS ]
  Integrated: HHS-075 β€œFlayer” Shotgun
  FLEX MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
  HEAVY MOUNT: Zweihander
[ SYSTEMS ]
  ASURA-Class NHP x3, Rapid Maneuver Jets, Blade Guard

Fixed, now, coffee

viscid snow
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Big fan of LL6 with 9 liscenses

formal juniper
#

Fuck, tried to set it lower, that's my test char and I am not fully awake

covert surge
#

current kit for ball

pliant token
#

PONDER THE ORB

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ORB IS LIFE

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ORB IS LOVE

viscid snow
#

I love this

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I love the Orb

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What on gods earth

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Orb

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10 kenetic AP improvised beloved

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You've done it again

covert surge
#

Only to terrain :)

#

But you can stack core with brawler and get 2d6+8 on that sum bitch against characters

viscid snow
#

Beautiful

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Look reading it at 2 am probs impacted my reading

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The ball

hardy citrus
covert surge
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Neither

#

It just happens

#

So you can ram off turn too

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Ie like vlad armor, it just happens

hardy citrus
#

Got it got it

pliant token
#

I'm reading the Suleiman's frame traits and all I can hear is

winter temple
#

Mech bowling

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Mech bowling

pliant token
#

SPLIT

winter temple
#

All Suleiman party with Synthetic Muscle Netting

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And Carry Handle

pliant token
#

Kerry Handle is the name of my new pilot OC

covert surge
#

what does synthetic do here πŸ€”

pliant token
#

ball JUMP

#

a straight line's a straight line

#

bouncing is still allowed

covert surge
#

since wrecking ball already covers the size thing for ram

pliant token
#

why take the chance that you won't make the ram check against the enemy's cover when you can just use synth muscle to hop up and land on top of them

winter temple
covert surge
#

nope doesnt that work that way

#

it is not a grapple

winter temple
#

Oh I see

covert surge
#

its a speshul thing

#

Drag+ Premium

winter temple
#

Guess it'll just be mech billiards then

#

Suleimans ramming each other

pliant token
#

lewd

pliant token
covert surge
#

Are we reading the same synth netting here what does it do to jumps

pliant token
#

ah whoops got it confused with the SSC core bonus thing

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kai bioplating

covert surge
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Man this is such an insanely niche situation im gonna say yes, you can ram people if you fall on them because its funny. You still take fall damage as usual

pliant token
#

this is why I like you

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"because it's funny" is the best reason to allow for something

covert surge
#

Can think of any situation where you would want to do it instead of just ram them but yes

pliant token
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by hook or by crook I'll make that situation happen

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now excuse me I need to make a completely serious Sulieman + Kai Bioplating LL6 build

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as an aside, a question - mehmed's revenge. it seems very very powerful as a damage dealing system; the overshield to allies seems kind of overpowered from initial reaction. what was your consideration to have it do that?
from a narrative perspective, an orbital cannon might not always be appropriate - say, if the mission is underground. I would consider having it be an explosion or a field originating from the frame itself to avoid issues

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it is very hard to actually land and is more of a deterrent than true damage dealer

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since it only trigger at the end of the next round

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hey Kidd can shoot its orbital laser bs while deep underground/in space, this one can get it too :P

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hmm, if you get moved before your next turn, does the blast stay in your previous position or follow you?

covert surge
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nope it stays exactly where you triggered it

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ah I see

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the overshield though?

covert surge
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like Monarch sheavy missile thing

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its damage is there to scare enemies off a position

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I'd love to playtest it, if the chance ever arises

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ball go boom

covert surge
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might make it limited 1 to balance it out against walk of kings but we'll see

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cramming like three of your guys in there is also prime target for enemy aoe

pliant token
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I'm imagining a size 1 mech trying to carry harness sulie being like

winter temple
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"Hah, all your weapon mounts have been destroyed. What can you do now?"
"There is another."
"What?"
picks up Suleiman pilot "Catch."

pliant token
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wait, are you saying an NHP piloting the Sulieman is grabbing the pilot and throwing them outside of the mech?

covert surge
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do not the pilot

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hardy citrus
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LMAO

indigo gulch
hushed fieldBOT
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It's just a flesh wound!

CHARON_ ↩️

[Reply to:](#1150099146620018708 message) "Hah, all your weapon mounts have been destroyed. What can you do now?"
"There is another."
"What?"
…

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Alternatively, fastball time?

covert surge
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Just as JCH intended

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Just a solid ball of ERA

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I aint too worried abt it tho since its pretty much a once per mission thing

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Since you gotta spend repair to repair system and more repair to give its limited charges back

indigo gulch
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if you destory a system with Limited, does it lose the charges?

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If not, you detonate ERA one combat then rest to get it back with the unspent charges

covert surge
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It should

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If that isnt the case raw then ill add a clause later

indigo gulch
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lemme check rq

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I just checked, Limited tag doesn't mention charges getting bricked if the weapon/system is destroyed, meaning that ERA kamikaze is a concern, so you should add a clause

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Geryon should be out soonℒ️

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Gonna do it tonight

indigo gulch
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HYPE

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wraith birch
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(Source: I made it the fuck up.)

indigo gulch
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If you smash a Sulieman on top of an enemy chassis, does the pilot need to yell "COME ON AND SLAM!"

wraith birch
indigo gulch
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CHAOS DUNK

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Also I saw that video was 11 years old and I instantly turned to dust

indigo gulch
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lmao

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Oh hey terk, would've DM'd you but I thought you were asleep

covert surge
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Its the same with lightning generator innit as a heat protocol

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Yeah, but I can't find a way to give a core power action innate heat

covert surge
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My sleep schedule are beyond human comprehension

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Heat before

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Lemme look at lightning generator rq

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πŸ‘

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For the actual profile part:

Take 1 heat, then choose a new profile for the Serrated Sun Wormhole Stabilizer.

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err, protocol part

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i'm tired

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in my defence it is 7:30AM and I have not slept

viscid snow
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Girl you're my hero, damn trooper

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lmao
Doin' my best

viscid snow
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Make sure you have a good sleep when you can <3

pliant token
viscid snow
pliant token
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covert surge
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It would not

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Or else things like this would haplen

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β€œUse smite”

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β€œRoll with the punches”

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β€œI knockback myself from myself”

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I disappear into blink-space for the crime of paradox, reappearing at next rest

pliant token
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but

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but

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it would be pretty funny

covert surge
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brudenell draft

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winter temple
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Ramjet DD288 (Rocket Attachment) Brudenell

covert surge
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Doesnt work since slow kills its movement

winter temple
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Wait forgot about the slow

covert surge
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It does come with its own heavy melee punch weapom

indigo gulch
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Slap a Combat Drill on this badboy

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Become Tengen Toppa Gurren Laggan

winter temple
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Still these licenses are really awesome

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All of them

winter temple
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also the Chix Heavy Shock Gauntlet is Loading

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more-te for the Storte

potent ridge
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Oh boy the option to choose knockback direction

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@pliant knot Look at this

winter temple
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Calibrudenell seems quite fun

viscid snow
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I'm so here for the mega shock fist

cerulean smelt
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Finally

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Barry Bee Benson mech

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crude ravine
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IN THRUST WE TRUST

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I've been waiting for the Brudenell, excited to finally see it

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kinda wanna stick a chicxulub on a Caliban and do terrible things with it

covert surge
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become an astartes with a power fist

crude ravine
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perhaps the Reverse Guillotine should specify a size 1 object? Seems like it would make things clearer with regards to verticals

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also it seems like Kinetic Battery's and Sonic Boom's positions in the frame should be swapped

pliant token
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Some real Superman vs. Captain Marvel energies here

covert surge
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Superman vs Doomsday

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cant be doomsday, not size 3

winter temple
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so for the Heruka

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if I do the tech attack that allows me to make a weapon attack against a target, would it benefit from Lesson of Thinking, Tomorrow's Thought

covert surge
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yes :)

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its two seperate attacks

winter temple
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trying to think of some melee weapons that would work well with the Heruka other than its own Dharmachakra

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Terashima Blade would be fun but you can only have one

covert surge
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any low threat high damage weapon works

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the whip can also be funny because you can yank people at sensor range

winter temple
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it's a heavy though...

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and the 'ruka can only hold main and auxes

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but that would be hilarious

covert surge
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the impact lance if you want your reactor to explode

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Ferrofluid can get you just really long ranged immobil

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What level are you building it for? Because there's always the GMS bonus for more weapon mounts

winter temple
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So put another mount on that sucker!

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Heya, wanted to get some opinions
Is it clear from this description that you get line if you have line, and if you have range you get range?

Create a Line 5 wholly within your Sensor Range. Whenever you or an ally draw line of sight across it for a ranged attack that does not have Burst or Cone, you may destroy the Line and grant the attack +5 Range/+5 Line

winter temple
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it already has three so it isn't eligible for Superheavy or the extra flex

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That's the ticket - there's also the bonus, I forget from where, that lets you put in an integrated heavy mount that you can fire once per full repair

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Instead of the slash you can put "either" in the beginning and the word "or" in between

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Grant the attack either +5 Range or +5 Line, depending on the triggering weapon's attack type.

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It is pretty verbose but it's better to be clear than concise - though I imagine you could probably whittle it down further in future revisions

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`-- HORUS HERUKA @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
HORUS HERUKA 3, SSC Atlas 3

NAME: <<DHERGOLOTH>>
[ CORE BONUSES ]
The Lesson of Thinking-Tomorrow’s-Thought, Mount Retrofitting
[ TALENTS ]
Duelist 2, Skirmisher 2, Hacker 2, Orator 2, Hunter 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:2 AGI:2 SYS:4 ENGI:0
STRUCTURE:4 HP:17 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:6 REPAIR:4
TECH ATK:+5 LIMITED:+0
SPD:4 EVA:12 EDEF:14 SENSE:10 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
RETROFITTED MOUNT: Terashima Blade / Tactical Knife // Mount Retrofitting
MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Dharmachakra / Tactical Knife
MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Dharmachakra / Tactical Knife
[ SYSTEMS ]
Dual Fist, Ten Thousand Arms, RAVANA-Class NHP, JΓ€ger Kunst II x3`

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I have no idea how practical this would be but it's very cool and thematic

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its main schtick is whaling on everything within sensors and zipping around while doing it

crude ravine
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Grant the attack +5 range, or +5 line if it has line template

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Aye, that's what I changed it to originally, I just wanted to check if the original was fine

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Geryon passed to Terk for review.

viscid snow
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-- HORUS Manticore @ LL6 -- [ LICENSES ] IPS-N DUILIUS 2, HORUS Manticore 3, IMI ZEPHYROS 1 [ CORE BONUSES ] Improved Armament, The Lesson of the Open Door [ TALENTS ] Gunslinger 3, Ace 2, Stormbringer 2, Vanguard 2 [ STATS ] HULL:0 AGI:2 SYS:6 ENGI:0 STRUCTURE:4 HP:13 ARMOR:2 STRESS:4 HEATCAP:7 REPAIR:3 TECH ATK:+7 LIMITED:+0 SPD:4 EVA:8 EDEF:16 SENSE:10 SAVE:15 [ WEAPONS ] FLEX MOUNT: Catalyst Pistol / Catalyst Pistol FLEX MOUNT: Arc Lance HEAVY MOUNT: Arc Suppressor [ SYSTEMS ] Lightning Generator, Total Shutdown, EMP Pulse, Type-I Flight System, Mistral Suite, Personalizations

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Saw Duilius' Arc Supperstor and just had to make a build based off of Amatsu from Monster Hunter

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Lil bit of Ilean Modern Industrial thrown in for that extra atmospheric vibe

hushed fieldBOT
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Honestly? I think it could do with more health, but also speed 3 would be painful, and it seems to need all those S-HASE.

cerulean smelt
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I've found it's much better off at LL9 with a dip into Emperor for a bunch of Stun and the SSC flight suite

hushed fieldBOT
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Currently we're aiming for a LL5 Duilius build that looks a bit like this:

-- IPS-N DUILIUS @ LL5 --
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N DUILIUS 2, SSC Atlas 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Improved Armament
[ TALENTS ]
Brutal 3, Executioner 3, Combined Arms 2
[ STATS ]
HULL:6 AGI:1 SYS:0 ENGI:0
STRUCTURE:4 HP:25 ARMOR:3
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:4 REPAIR:9
TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+0
SPD:4 EVA:7 EDEF:8 SENSE:5 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
FLEX MOUNT: Terashima Blade cc_threat1 cc_damage_kinetic1d6
FLEX MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
HEAVY MOUNT: Ultraheavy Combat Maul cc_threat2 cc_damage_explosive2d6+5
[ SYSTEMS ]
Armament Redundancy, EVA Module, Multi-Gear Maneuver System, Type-3 Projected Shield, Total Shutdown, Personalizations
Good lord having 25HP and 3 armour is funny.

viscid snow
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Terashima blade feels like a weird thing to go for LL3 in atlas for?

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Any reason in particular or just cause it's a baller ass weapon

covert surge
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the deflect stance

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  • shield protocol granting perma hardcover
viscid snow
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Ah! That is amazing

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Always seem to forget deflect stance

covert surge
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Also, @here the Geryon is now fully released and updated to the LCP

viscid snow
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Win <33

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Emails going out in about a minute

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Let's gooo

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Solaire: The Mech

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Praise the sun

hushed fieldBOT
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Thus why no ranged weapons.

GoodVibes ↩️

[Reply to:](#1150099146620018708 message) Always seem to forget deflect stance

wraith birch
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Hang on so the Heart of a Dying Star frame trait

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say if the frame has a heat cap of 12, does it go into danger zone at 6 heat or 7 heat

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or 5

covert surge
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5

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Siiick

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-- SSC Death’s Head @ LL7 -- [ LICENSES ] HORUS GERYON 2, SSC Death’s Head 2, HA Barbarossa 3 [ CORE BONUSES ] Overpower Caliber, Improved Armament [ TALENTS ] Siege Specialist 3, Technophile 3, Infiltrator 2, Black Thumb 2 [ STATS ] HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:3 STRUCTURE:4 HP:22 ARMOR:0 STRESS:4 HEATCAP:9 REPAIR:4 TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+1 SPD:6 EVA:12 EDEF:8 SENSE:20 SAVE:14 [ WEAPONS ] FLEX MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Fusion Lance / Missile Rack HEAVY MOUNT: Siege Cannon // Overpower Caliber [ SYSTEMS ] Enlightenment-Class NHP, Siege Stabilizers, Gravitic Crush, Relativistic Gate, High-Stress Mag Clamps, Autoloader Drone x2, Personalizations, Pattern-A Jericho Deployable Cover

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gravitic crush seems like a really fun thing to use with blast weapons

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gosh I finally figured out why all those tiny Geyron hands freaked me out so much

hushed fieldBOT
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Okay, due to not being at full power, that Duilius build did not work. Time to work out how to pull a demolition build.

spring creek
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For the LCP picture on the Geryon, I recommend taking off the smoke since it cuts off and looks jarring on the lcp

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^^

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The smoke is absolutely raw tho surely it can be reshaped to fit

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-- HORUS Gorgon @ LL6 -- [ LICENSES ] HORUS Gorgon 2, HORUS Goblin 1, IPS-N DUILIUS 2, IPS-N Nelson 1 [ CORE BONUSES ] Mount Retrofitting, The Lesson of the Held Image [ TALENTS ] Exemplar 3, Duelist 2, Skirmisher 2, Hunter 1, Stormbringer 1 [ STATS ] HULL:2 AGI:4 SYS:0 ENGI:2 STRUCTURE:4 HP:19 ARMOR:0 STRESS:4 HEATCAP:7 REPAIR:4 TECH ATK:+1 LIMITED:+1 SPD:6 EVA:12 EDEF:12 SENSE:8 SAVE:15 [ WEAPONS ] RETROFITTED MOUNT: War Pike / Caestus // Mount Retrofitting MAIN MOUNT: War Pike MAIN MOUNT: Autopod [ SYSTEMS ] BREACH Protocol, Bulwark Mods, Total Shutdown, H0R_OS System Upgrade I, Mimic Mesh

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bonkity bonkity

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breach protocol and Gorgon seems very silly (in a good way)

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shoot shoulda made a Centimane Duli-Gorgon

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ha, Geryon Asteroid Field with Seismic Ripper is funny

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Asteroid Field + Slag Cannon + The one thing from Zheng + Seismic Ripper

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  • Jackhammer
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Local devastation

hybrid ledge
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Geryon somehow became Big Kobold

cerulean smelt
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Literally the Kobold Space Program

hybrid ledge
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funnily enough, the serrated sun is a cannon..so you can do jackhammer stuff with it

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no need for the slag cannon

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I mean, you want the slag cannon

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yeah Geryon can become a very intense Terrain Bomber

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like, I can easily see a Geryon build with Geryon 2, Kobold 2, Zheng 1 Atlas 1 that is just gonna become a big yeet machine

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hardy citrus
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geryon has the wrong title header type in the document i thkn

viscid snow
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Also, damn Horus eats good when it comes to liscences lmao :)

hardy citrus
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*not me realizing i can give geryon another superheavy, and a flex using the one core power from dustgrave and the base core power *

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oh no

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lma o

viscid snow
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Double superheavy lets go

hardy citrus
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picturing a Geryon running
Fusion Lance/comic knife
D/D 88
and its geryon integrateds

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or the barbie superheavy 😭

viscid snow
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Woah, why are you planning on having other weapons? Just forfit the Main/Aux and you can get it online at LL5

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D/D 88 is a skirmish weapon

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Genius plans

young nimbus
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I wanna run a Geryon with the Themistocles sledge

cerulean smelt
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I just got the urge to make a nexus build with the Geryon frame

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Ngl I think it'd work

cerulean smelt
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Kinda confused about the wording of this, what about ordinance stops you from attacking adjacent targets??

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oh wait hang on

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Engagement

covert surge
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Yes

winter temple
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imagine this with Nelson

covert surge
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Kinda anti synnergy since moving w skirmisher means all your other melees dont work

hushed fieldBOT
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Well, Skirmisher takes place after you attack.

rain topaz
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Its still okay to offer suggestions on the mech docs, even if the mech has been out for awhile, right?

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(feels like a stupid question but i just want to be sure)

covert surge
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shoot, ill consider it

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also im going to be slightly reworking suleiman to be more ram and survival focused since Brudenell is doing the "I move in a straight line, busting through terrain and cover like im kool aid man" niche

rain topaz
covert surge
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Ah yes

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Rat King

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Of course

raven socket
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not again

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(but sure, go ahead)

covert surge
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Go Ahead, its just a minor meme that Rat King is the hydra of bugs and phrasing, you squash one weird interaction and two more takes its place

rain topaz
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its a very good mech

raven socket
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I've yet to hear any reports of how it acts in action

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But it's a very fun concept

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You'd think people would, like, tell us how using the mechs goes

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but surprisingly not

viscid snow
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I'm gonna go on the marketing trail for the Rat King when it comes time for my crew to level up don't you worry

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πŸ‘Œ

viscid snow
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And the Geryon

raven socket
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Also
Thanks to terk's repeated fey moods
We're up to 21 total mechs for the project

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(I'm not complaining, the fey moods are great)

viscid snow
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(Really I love all the things)

rain topaz
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I just love game design, so discovering lancer and comp/con has just spiralled into hyperfixation

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all the inter-connecting rules and parts just make brain very happy

raven socket
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I'm eagerly awaiting getting to work on the Brudenell, personally

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Very much want to use it myself

rain topaz
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it also continues the trend of games being the only thing i use complex math on

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because of course its important to figure out how many total drones i can pop out of a rat king

rain topaz
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personally im interested to see the lord

covert surge
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Suleiman is the ram guy

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Brudenell is more speed and knockback

raven socket
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In the meantime I'm vibing with the Archon from Dpok

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Wanted to use the Gorshkov but DM said no :(

rain topaz
covert surge
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the super hidden man

rain topaz
covert surge
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"Retrocausal Phase Ready Railgun, destroyer of worlds"

rain topaz
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it sounds beautiful

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Oh yeah, btw terk
What happened with the phasma?

rain topaz
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maybe it became intangible and ran away

covert surge
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in the pipeline but i gotta find the time to draw it

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because currently doing a good sized commission

raven socket
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nodnods

rain topaz
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technical question

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are lcp's capable of modifying repair stuff in comp/con?

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like how the everests replaceable parts lets it repair structure easier

raven socket
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I believe so, yes

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I learnt how to do that the other day

rain topaz
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i ask cause (its them again) the rat king has its micro-forge trait, and that doesnt interact mechanically with comp/con

raven socket
rain topaz
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Remind me what micro-forge does?

rain topaz
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you can spend 1 repair to fix all destroyed drone systems

covert surge
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1 repair repair all drone

raven socket
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I don't think you can do that sadly, no

rain topaz
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yeah i thought it might not be

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just wondered

raven socket
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You can add stats to drones

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but you can't, like

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it's not that open ended, I guess is what I'm saying