#In Golden Flame

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balmy obsidian
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Time is ours

limber fossil
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(I really do hate that it’s j’ai and not je suis. So silly)

thorn hinge
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I hate the british and yet the only brits I actually know I absolutely love?
Probably helps that they also hate the british

clever pebble
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Don't that work like, on everywhere?

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when you just make significant noise and pray for empathy and pattern recognition to work

zinc topaz
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dans mes couilles or something

limber fossil
clever pebble
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Hell, it even works with crazy dave

zinc topaz
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i for one despise noun then adjective structure

clever pebble
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You don't need the subtitles to understand crazy dave

zinc topaz
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the car red

balmy obsidian
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I used to meme that I hate the perfide albion because haha france versus britain or something but genuinelly all the brits I've met are genuine sweethearts so fuck that actually I love the brits

limber fossil
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The worst thing about living in British is the food

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Oh my god it’s so bad

clever pebble
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the cold?

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the wet cold that soaks through your clothes

limber fossil
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Global warming means it’s honestly not been that cold

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Even up north

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And i come from desert country

clever pebble
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I miss my lower latitude home...

zinc topaz
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i want to get out of the desert so bad

clever pebble
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still vaguely ocean adjacent, but much less antagonistic at winter

zinc topaz
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since moving back here it's been genuinely depressing not having trees that arent palo verdes and not having grass or snow or rainy days that arent full blown storms

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every day is brown and beige and just too hot to be comfortable

lime widget
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thats fucked up

zinc topaz
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hopefully around this time next year i'll be gearing up to move to colorado though :>

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(manifesting)

clever cloud
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(by any chance, can someone find my message count here?)

balmy obsidian
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7150

willow needle
clever cloud
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wow, meow really is a problem :))

balmy obsidian
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7151

zinc topaz
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for context in 2022 i moved from here:

noble ivy
zinc topaz
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back to here:

balmy obsidian
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I have never moved in my entire life SChhh I'm in the same appartment I've been living in for 27 years

willow needle
clever cloud
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actual hermit crab

lime widget
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innit

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or whatever

balmy obsidian
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Cheap social housing in a capital city will do that to you

clever cloud
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more of that actually

zinc topaz
clever cloud
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like..everywhere

west phoenix
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I have moved like every year

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I'm sick of it

balmy obsidian
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Yeah, I wish also

zinc topaz
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god that photo took forever to send

willow needle
balmy obsidian
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It'sn ot breaking bad it lacks yellow<

limber fossil
willow needle
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my partner doesnt know how to cook cryign

balmy obsidian
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Some poeple marry for tax benefits
Some people date for food benefits

west phoenix
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I've always been the partner that cooks

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Its a heavy burden to bear

willow needle
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SAME

supple carbon
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Meow is the one who cooks

balmy obsidian
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Nice, you can cook for me then

west phoenix
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But i like baking for people :3

zinc topaz
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also everyone fucking litters here!!! god damn it

west phoenix
zinc topaz
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littering is such an inexcusably stupid and lazy thing to do

noble ivy
west phoenix
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Well its okay I'm more bottom heavy

zinc topaz
balmy obsidian
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Nah if I ask someone out it's a 10 lines long ramble with no punctuation nor capitalization about how i'm very sorry to inconvenience them

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I've done it precisely once

clever cloud
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you have rizz leo

west phoenix
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This is why I don't ask people out

clever cloud
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be more confident please

balmy obsidian
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Fuck no

west phoenix
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This is why I don't talk to people

clever cloud
balmy obsidian
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You're asking a cactus to eat a steak

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19k actually

zinc topaz
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i avoid being confident bc i dont want it to come off as cockiness and/or creepiness

west phoenix
balmy obsidian
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Yeah something like that

zinc topaz
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so my asking someone out is "hi im sorry i know you probably dont want to be bothered rn but i think youre pretty and you dont have to do anything with it but heres my phone number have a good day bye"

willow needle
west phoenix
# noble ivy

Max, Primo's player has posted this multiple times calling out Serenity

west phoenix
balmy obsidian
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I mean, Serenity makes it work

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So do you, most likely

west phoenix
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Yeah people ask me out and when i say yes i ruin their life

zinc topaz
west phoenix
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Idk if thats "making it work"

balmy obsidian
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Nah

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I reject your opinion

clever pebble
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huh

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are we talking about entering a romantic relation?

lime widget
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Borb

willow needle
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borb

minor orchid
clever pebble
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BORB

noble ivy
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BORB??!?

balmy obsidian
willow needle
clever pebble
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eh, I have never seethed, and has already coped

west phoenix
zinc topaz
clever pebble
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straight into uni with not a single relation and single digit frienz

thorn hinge
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I may flirt around a lot here but in reality I've only told someone I had feelings for them twice ever.

balmy obsidian
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I do not know Varrés' dialog as I have never played the elden ring game

zinc topaz
thorn hinge
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and to be honest the flirting is a much more recent development

west phoenix
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I've always been a good flirt which is a shame because people should stay away from me

zinc topaz
balmy obsidian
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I like to do the flirting as a joke because it's funny to me but I prefer to do it with people I know are not into guys to begin with, just to be sure

west phoenix
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There's no worse fate than to be maidenless 😔

clever pebble
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I mean, I find human interaction to be demanding and requires me to uphold significant amount of effort to run a coverup on the lazy ass I am. So I never bothered and instead choosed to be the lazy ass that is within me, aside from doing coursework and hobbies

thorn hinge
clever cloud
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Look, the one time i actually told someone how i felt (besides my wife) was because she absolutely typecasted me as the gay friend who's into manicures literal years before i realized i was trans

limber fossil
clever cloud
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"Uh.. i sorta wanted to go out with you..."
"Oh! well, sorry to say but i already have a boyfriend"

zinc topaz
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ooh that reminds me im getting my nails done tomorrow :3

limber fossil
tame tide
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Red flag party?

limber fossil
thorn hinge
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TWICE

west phoenix
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WHAT

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I WOULDN'T ADMIT THAT

limber fossil
limber fossil
clever cloud
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stunning

limber fossil
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So i simply just

balmy obsidian
limber fossil
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Yk

balmy obsidian
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broke their knees?

limber fossil
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Showed their partners what better opportunities there were out there

thorn hinge
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I am in awe, Ari

balmy obsidian
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wrecked their homes?

zinc topaz
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god damn

thorn hinge
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incredible, iconic, amazing

limber fossil
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I also once made out with the daughter of someone who was homophobic to me

clever cloud
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revenge flirt

limber fossil
west phoenix
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I have done that

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It is nice

thorn hinge
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🥺

limber fossil
balmy obsidian
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Ok but

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Should the washing machine be on or off

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What model

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Will this be on the test

clever cloud
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oh leo..

west phoenix
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Are you dating models now Leo?

limber fossil
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Look, all i’m saying is, don’t be a homophobic cheater and not expect karma to come knocking

west phoenix
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Impressive

balmy obsidian
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what models

zinc topaz
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im praying that the last 6 months ive spent off tinder has given it time to refresh and i actually match with a human being this year

west phoenix
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Well in this case it doesn't knock, it wrecks

zinc topaz
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i miss physical contact sigh

balmy obsidian
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i'm asking about the kind of washing machine

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some open from the top some from the side

west phoenix
limber fossil
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They’re still together last I heard

balmy obsidian
clever cloud
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every time im in this chat i get a violent urge to destructively snuggle some of yall

west phoenix
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Don't touch me, whore

balmy obsidian
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Good luck finding me bitch

zinc topaz
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the last time i was active on tinder i accidentally matched with and hooked up with like 4 people who knew each other and didn't know that all of them knew me

limber fossil
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Lmfao

zinc topaz
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the through line was they were all trans furry djs and i only found out they knew each other bc one of them showed me a flyer for a rave they were djing at and i was like

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oh my god i know everyone on this flyer

limber fossil
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Yeah i’ve on multiple encounters made out with trans people who i didn’t know i knew pre-transitioning

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It’s very silly

balmy obsidian
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I'm noting down that all furry DJs know each other

west phoenix
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I feel like a Victorian child in this conversation

west phoenix
balmy obsidian
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It seems like a very specific subset

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But then again everyone is a furry

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Except me

clever cloud
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nah, furry djs is a niiiiiiche

limber fossil
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I’m not a furry i just think dragons and Minotaurs are cool okay

tame tide
west phoenix
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I'm the first 2 joyous

noble ivy
balmy obsidian
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You can do all three at once by mentionning Howl is not real

zinc topaz
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im always the first two too yeah

thorn hinge
tame tide
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Howl is not real

noble ivy
balmy obsidian
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Again, good luck finding me bitch

zinc topaz
thorn hinge
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Andd several of you would get more than cuddles judging by the reactions beelz_smirk

west phoenix
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She's married Ada

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But ok

thorn hinge
clever cloud
limber fossil
west phoenix
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You

tame tide
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I know Leo's IP

west phoenix
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Just say you

tame tide
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127.0.0.1

thorn hinge
balmy obsidian
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I mean clearly it's doable

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The problem is grabbing me while I'm not barricade in my room

limber fossil
clever cloud
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Oh yeah, im off-limits but i like the plan of smooching everyone

west phoenix
limber fossil
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It doesn’t count as cheating if it’s against transphobic boyfriends

It says so in the bible

west phoenix
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I need to make my way out of this conversation

noble ivy
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True!

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also True

thorn hinge
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I literally ENM you can't homewreck me (though you're welcome to trysmooth )

balmy obsidian
# tame tide 127.0.0.1

I recently like the new series, Hunter the Parenting. There has been a lack of individual scene unlike the TTS. So I decide to upload two of my favourite scenes, all involving the Great and Mighty Kevin.

Scene Location:
Episode 1 - Adorable Family Trip (17:50): https://youtu.be/t1Kc0xuYnfQ?t=1070

Scenes Playlists:
Hunter the Parenting Quotes ...

▶ Play video
tame tide
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Kevin ❤️

limber fossil
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Oh nk wait

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I got it mixed up

balmy obsidian
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Professor

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What is ENM

thorn hinge
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ethical non-monogamy

balmy obsidian
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Danke

limber fossil
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Tbh i knew i had fully witnessed the lesbian experience when my girlfriend introduced me to her best friend, who was also her ex.
Who i had made out with before

balmy obsidian
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Hilarious

thorn hinge
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in other words polyamorous but with slightly different intent/connotations/community

balmy obsidian
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The cooler polyamorous, got it

limber fossil
thorn hinge
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I see ENM as more of a broad umbrella term and poly as one flavor under it but ye

balmy obsidian
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What's all this then

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You got a license for cultural resets?

thorn hinge
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We lean more to relationship anarchy (which does NOT mean anything goes, that's very different)

clever cloud
balmy obsidian
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Pull out the thesis

clever cloud
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yea hopefully

limber fossil
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I read one that was really interesting

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My favourite queer article i read recently was the “choosing to be lesbian” one

thorn hinge
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yeah but I gotta go make lunch and wake my partner up so I'll try and write something but there's a whoellotta words online abotu the various flavors and influences there

limber fossil
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Which was a super fun read

balmy obsidian
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Are you in ❤️ or ♠️

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Very important

noble ivy
balmy obsidian
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Teehee

limber fossil
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The wildest queer article i read recently was a thesis on puppygirls

thorn hinge
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❤️ and♦️ right now I don't have much capacity for blackrom

thorn hinge
clever cloud
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polyamorous as in "everyone is dating each other"?

limber fossil
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I think it’s called “lowkey, i chose to be a lesbian”

thorn hinge
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and I laughted because like three of the artists I follow had their works in the thesis

limber fossil
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As someone who’s not very “in” to western-focused online transfemme spaces it was certainly an eye opening read

tight pier
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scientific article?

zinc topaz
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i'm quite monogamous but also sex should be fun so as long as both people are on board involving other people's not explicitly off the table

clever cloud
noble ivy
limber fossil
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I gave up on trying to label myself a while back

clever cloud
zinc topaz
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for that exact same reason i tend to date pan/bisexual people

limber fossil
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Now i’m just “That Bitch™”

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I’m here to punch fascists and kiss faggots

zinc topaz
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its more like hey if we both think this person's hot why not

tight pier
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we will read this

limber fossil
clever cloud
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i read the puppygirl article on a plane on my way to norway

limber fossil
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Lmao

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What were your thoughts on it

tight pier
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this is fun. will read this later

clever cloud
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Informative! lays out a very clear summary of why when where how of puppygirls and then where it fails or other shortcomings

limber fossil
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I fully just forgot the entire article after I read it

clever cloud
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lmao

limber fossil
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My brain simply could not compute it ig

clever cloud
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"help, i got puppy headspace'd by the puppy girl scientific article"

tight pier
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from skimming it, it seems like something helpful for someone who doesn't "get it"

clever pebble
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I think I listened to...3 hour of The Disaster of Passion by now...

zinc topaz
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i recently got puppy headspace'd by a video of a girl actually talking to an actual puppy

clever pebble
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All I can feel...is
TOTSUGEKI

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I forgot to switch tracks...

noble ivy
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man... chat is WILD today

zinc topaz
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i've had the castlevania sotn soundtrack on for 4 hours

tight pier
clever cloud
zinc topaz
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i am going to finish this fucking costume today if it kills me

limber fossil
clever cloud
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a big part of the article i liked was pointing out the differences between puppy play and puppygirls as two distinct things

zinc topaz
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i need to go buy more sharpies though insane how fast they dry out when you're drawing details onto fabric which you are totally supposed to do

limber fossil
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Because, and i do believe the article itself mentions it, stuff like “puppy” play or whatever is definitely more commonly observable in younger, whiter spaces and peoples

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And i feel like that applies to a lot of trans stereotypes in general

noble ivy
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To any lurkers in this thread:
I assure you, an anthropological study of puppygirls is vital reading to In Golden Flame

balmy obsidian
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waves hand in the general direction of howl

thorn hinge
limber fossil
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I know*!*

clever cloud
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being trans in intimately tied to the cultures in which you live. and it's a shame that so much of online trans spaces are defined by white american experiences. This is slowly changing, but it's a product of the US dominating internet culture as a whole too

tight pier
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we wonder if "older" trans folks (40-50+) were... "quirky" like how folks under the puppy-girl & general trans-therian umbrella are now, or if its something newer that exists because of the internet allowing a higher degree of freedom and self-expression

noble ivy
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I think its just that the internet allows "quirky" people to be louder and far more visible than ever

zinc topaz
limber fossil
# limber fossil I know*!*

As a retired professional debater, i assure all revolutionaries here that kicking a bigot in the shins is an accepted form of civilised discourse in the free marketplace of ideas.

tight pier
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and it creates a "feedback loop" where its easier to find and easier to get into

balmy obsidian
tight pier
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Our Saturday group is basically a ♦️ polycule at this point

limber fossil
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(In minecraft)

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Well, i’m gonna bounce. Alas, my new meds come in tomorrow so this is the last y’all shall see of unfiltered Ari

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Adios Calliope

balmy obsidian
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You're cool regardless

thorn hinge
clever cloud
clever cloud
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kinky freaky fucks have been around forever. the sanitation of human sexuality is relatively new

noble ivy
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We've always been here

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-# (was digging through the mem folder to find these stupid ass excerpts, but now I think the moments past...)

tight pier
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Our question is moreso, "what did the trans community look like 20/30/40/50 years ago, and did folks' identities go as 'against the grain' as they do now, in 2025?"

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or "what was the 1970s equivalent to the puppygirl/catgirl?"

clever cloud
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you can read about this with stuff like Judith Butler's books or Gender Outlaw

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there's data!

tight pier
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wonderful, thank you

balmy obsidian
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Imagining a cowboygirl with a colorful hat

clever cloud
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the big through-line is that being trans was a clear, hard, removal from public society. So a lot of them were forced to become sex workers (not trafficking) just to exist

tight pier
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we have so much shit we need to read, the backlog is too great

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:P

noble ivy
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a girl, a boy, and a cow all in one!!?!

clever cloud
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non-binary identities being "formally" recognize is a reeaaaallly new thing. like 1990s new

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even though we've been here forever

tight pier
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aye!

zinc topaz
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ive been thinking about it more and i think i align with agender pretty well, somewhere in there

west phoenix
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"stop fuckin' in the igf chat" - eleonor

thorn hinge
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No

balmy obsidian
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-# STOP FUCKING WITH THE MICROWAVE

thorn hinge
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NO

noble ivy
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NEVER

shell bison
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...why do I always rejoin in wild times

zinc topaz
balmy obsidian
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It's always wild times bunzi

thorn hinge
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sure but it's been a particularly wild day lol

shell bison
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Like damn I took today off because fuck work and I come back to this

noble ivy
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bun... It's been WILD since dawn...

zinc topaz
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ok guys one more side of the fabric i need to sew on

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we're making good time

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it's not even 1 yet

clever cloud
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this is one of the most normal moments today

shell bison
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Okay, what happened

balmy obsidian
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Sex.

thorn hinge
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you cant do this to me leo

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;_;

balmy obsidian
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why not? beelz_smirk

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It's good music

zinc topaz
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ok do i need to play this game

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how long is it

thorn hinge
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BECAUSE NOW I'M THINKING ABOUT ||PYE|| AND CRYING

tight pier
noble ivy
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-# oh waow this version uses every nook and cranny of my head phones

thorn hinge
noble ivy
balmy obsidian
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It's a puzzle exploration and mystery game that has a very cool premise but that you might not like

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People who recommend it strongly recommend it

thorn hinge
zinc topaz
balmy obsidian
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Personally, I just watched a friend play it because I lack the brain power

shell bison
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scrolls up
Puppy girl discussion

I think I see where this is going

tight pier
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we do not care, our gender doesnt matter, just call us what we want to be called

shell bison
zinc topaz
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at the end of the day gender is a silly game and i dont want to be part of it

balmy obsidian
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I'm a guy but if calling me a puppygirl is funnier then do it

thorn hinge
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TLDR; Play Outer Wilds, do not look anything up about it, the less you know the better, it's so fuckin good tho

zinc topaz
thorn hinge
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Outer Wilds changed who I am as a person and how I see the world

noble ivy
zinc topaz
noble ivy
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yes

thorn hinge
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yes

noble ivy
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yes it is

tight pier
balmy obsidian
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Personally I did not vibe with the ending of Outer Wilds but it was still very cool to watch play out

thorn hinge
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top three games of my life and I've played a LOT of games

safe glade
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One of the best games I've 95%ed but never beat (I have complaints about how the "endgame" works, but everything up to that is great)

cobalt zealot
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Baby...

balmy obsidian
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Actually Imma delete that

tight pier
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similar: we've been playing through rain world

minor orchid
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so smol

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only 30 cm

thorn hinge
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Also it has a DLC that basically adds a whole new 10 hours of game and another fantastic story to dig into and made me cry in a dozen new ways

noble ivy
cobalt zealot
noble ivy
zinc topaz
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hi hipá

cobalt zealot
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I don't like this assessment

thorn hinge
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only other games to get me crying like that are SIGNALIS and 1000xRESIST. All three of them have songs that can bring me to tears if I so much as think about them too much

noble ivy
tight pier
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outer wilds does not seem like our type of game, our girlfriend loves it - we'll probably end up playing it when she makes us

cobalt zealot
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Its smug aura mocks me

shell bison
noble ivy
shell bison
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And I thought our Friday session talks were wild

noble ivy
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Don't worry about it Bunzi

shell bison
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I sleep in one day and I miss the most down bad day in chat

thorn hinge
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oh yeah bunzi missed out on us celebrating a 2 time homewrecker

tight pier
shell bison
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Pfffff

balmy obsidian
tight pier
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you know what game means a lot to us? KOTOR 2

balmy obsidian
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There are games that made me sad and made me like it and that's POKEMON MYSTERY DUNGEON BAYBEEEE BEST GAME OF ALL TIME

safe glade
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The only video game song that will reliably make me cry is Austin Wintory's "Apotheosis" from Journey

thorn hinge
balmy obsidian
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I only caught glimpses of it through a friend who played it

noble ivy
thorn hinge
limber fossil
tight pier
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:P

shell bison
thorn hinge
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AHAHA amazing

tight pier
balmy obsidian
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The DLC as I'm given to understand is precisely about people like me, quote unquote

thorn hinge
limber fossil
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Yeah but it’s funny to say

balmy obsidian
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I mean you can comment

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I'm not gonna play it

noble ivy
shell bison
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I shall leave you all to your ahitposts. I'll make dinner in a couple of hours. We are having honey bun donuts for dessert Calliope

balmy obsidian
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I eated all the honey

cobalt zealot
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What the fuck what happened in here

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Good fucking lord

balmy obsidian
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Hungry

thorn hinge
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Oh for anybody considering Outer Wilds, my suggestion is to play the base game first THEN buy the DLC, I think it's a better experience that way

cobalt zealot
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Also people will tell you to look up nothing about thr game

limber fossil
shell bison
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I shall return to bunny gym gains. Leg day , followed by back and core and cardio

cobalt zealot
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This is bullshit

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Ignore them

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If you're stuck, look it up

noble ivy
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No, If you're stuck then ask Me

thorn hinge
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Also if anybody wants to try story heavy games about trauma and incredible scifi worldbuilding, 1000xRESIST is on sale rn for 33% off on steam, deepest discount yet.

shell bison
balmy obsidian
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It has been 0 days since Ada has recomended 1000xRESIST

noble ivy
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It has been 0 days since Juli cried over thinking about outer wilds

thorn hinge
balmy obsidian
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Hey Ada.

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Hey Juli.

noble ivy
thorn hinge
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Okay that's just a really good one, makes me melancholy but happy

zinc topaz
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i love games that make me cry

shell bison
balmy obsidian
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It makes me emotional

thorn hinge
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If you play that, you should DM me your thoughts as you play I will love you forever

shell bison
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I think the last time I cried in a game was when Mordin does what he had to in me3

balmy obsidian
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Oh there's a game I remember made me bawl my eyes out as well that was Valiant Hearts The Great War

shell bison
balmy obsidian
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The ending specifically

shell bison
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Oh yeah valiant hearts is so good

noble ivy
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Speaking of crying
I tried to make a playlist for Eruca last night, but ending up bawling my eyes out listening to Porter Robinsons Nurture album for the billionth time

balmy obsidian
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lmao

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Saying lmao as I wipe off tears in my eyes

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Music just makes me cries, it's terrible

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It just keeps happening

west phoenix
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not to sound too emo but man i've cried so much this last year and a half i don't have many tears left

balmy obsidian
#

You can have mine I have extra

tight pier
#

we finally learned how to cry this year which was nice

zinc topaz
#

its ok im about to sound more emo

#

ive wanted to cry for like a year but its like i forgot how to

tight pier
#

oh dear.

#

that's how we were, for about 8-9 years

thorn hinge
#

Same

#

for a long long time

balmy obsidian
#

pshht, I can make you cry easy

thorn hinge
#

sure, now

balmy obsidian
#

Damn, got me

thorn hinge
#

I had to overcome a lot of mental blocks and figure out a ton of gender stuff to get here

tight pier
#

we were pretty much completely deaf to all emotion for that length of time, only "extremes" would just barely get through

#

yeah

thorn hinge
#

Estrogen did help but that really isn't all of it, it's more about realizing my truth that helped me cast off a lot of things that killed my emotions (also sometimes there's just regular ass depression to deal with)

zinc topaz
#

i think i'm just too used to shutting off and autopiloting through stuff tbh

#

and i have to like relearn how to feel negative emotions healthily

tight pier
#

"overnight" is relative, it really took like 2 months

balmy obsidian
#

man that's a long ass night

tight pier
#

yeah...

balmy obsidian
#

I take it you live somewhere up north headempty

#

Sorry

thorn hinge
balmy obsidian
#

Food

thorn hinge
#

So Ethical Non-monogamy (ENM): Broad umbrella term for any sort of not-strictly mono relationship type. Includes polyamory, some things that might be sorta distinct from poly, but also a lot of things that clearly are not poly like swinging, "allowed cheat list", etc.

Polyamory is a specific type of ENM where 3+ people are in romantic relationships of varying shapes. However, the term carries with it some cultural baggage. There's a whole polyamory community and they have a set of standards and expectations and tropes and memes, so using the term implies you're a part of all of that too. There tends to be "amatonormative" influences in Poly circles, that is, there's an expectation that every relationship benefits from and should seek to follow the typical relationship arc of dating, getting closer, becoming married (in the common law sense not usually legally since that's rarely allowed), having kids, etc. Relationships are often cast in a hierarchy, with people having a "primary" partner, and replacing that primary is considered "bad" even if it seems to happen naturally.

Relationship Anarchy attempts to break from the poly community and provide a different framework for such by applying anarchist principles to relationships. Explicitly anti-amatonormative, anti-mononormative, and anti-hierarchical. Your relationships do exist in light of your other relationships, but you don't view one as more important than the others. You treat each separately, and work out your goals and desires and relative closeness. In relationship anarchy it's perfectly valid to have a relationship that is shallow and goes no further, as long as that's what you each want. You can have multiple partners that become deeply important, and your deep relationships might fade and dissolve, and that's normal and fine, as long as the people involved accept it.

#

you know... it occurs to me that I don't have an extremely high post count but if we were able to measure by character length instead of by post I might be topping the charts

balmy obsidian
#

I was going to say something

#

But, biting my tongue

thorn hinge
#

go on

#

SPEAK

balmy obsidian
#

Nope

thorn hinge
#

please? 🥺

tight pier
#

However, the term carries with it some cultural baggage. There's a whole polyamory community and they have a set of standards and expectations and tropes and memes, so using the term implies you're a part of all of that too.
This!

balmy obsidian
#

Suffer

tight pier
#

This is very real.

thorn hinge
#

coward

tight pier
#

It's also why we don't call ourself plural

balmy obsidian
#

I keep saying I am, that's nothing new

#

A coward, that is. Not plural.

thorn hinge
#

...actually, I think I get exactly what you mean

tight pier
#

do you?

thorn hinge
#

in a vague way

clever cloud
#

thanks for the write-up!!

balmy obsidian
#

Careful Ada, this will be on the test.

tight pier
noble ivy
#

I know she'll ace it anyways

thorn hinge
#

I mean, I don't know how it affects y'all specifically but I get the idea of the cultural context of the community of people that go by plural and the ways it might not apply to your collective experience.

balmy obsidian
#

Ada? Ace? But I thought she was a lesbiab.

thorn hinge
#

there are ace lesbians

#

I mean, I'm not one of them but

#

they do exist

balmy obsidian
#

Well

noble ivy
#

-# hold on... Athena did you down vote leo...

balmy obsidian
#

Yes

#

But

tight pier
balmy obsidian
#

I was fairly sure you were specifically not Ace, hence

#

At this point I have run out of spaghetti

tight pier
#

do NOT give us discord gold

balmy obsidian
#

Too late

noble ivy
#

ah fuck

balmy obsidian
thorn hinge
#

I'm married to an ace tho so anything's possible

balmy obsidian
#

Throwing my table because clearly I do not understand what anything means

#

The world is complex and confusing

thorn hinge
#

And the more complex and confusing the combinations the more likely I am to be there

zinc topaz
#

pardon the dirty mirror selfie it's all i got but here's the cheap ass coat so far

thorn hinge
#

I love finding new fucked up exceptions to the norms

balmy obsidian
#

I just want to make jokes with friends

zinc topaz
#

i need to go buy more sharpies

balmy obsidian
#

It always ends with "That's not how it works you dumb stupid bigot"

balmy obsidian
#

Weh

balmy obsidian
#

WEH I SAY

thorn hinge
#

we like you leo it's nothing like that

balmy obsidian
#

I know, I know

#

Who doesn't, really

tight pier
#

like half of the folk in our group operate on the rules of "if you're making a joke you can call me whatever is the funniest"

balmy obsidian
#

"If you think you don't like me, you're wrong, but you'll learn." I say jokingly

noble ivy
#

Don't worry June, You'll love leo eventually

#

Its only a matter of time

zinc topaz
#

he needs to put the neco arc pfp back 🙄 its not the same

balmy obsidian
#

Suffer.

thorn hinge
#

My partner is aromantic, asexual, and agender. And yet I call myself a lesbian. Oh and the other person I confessed feelings to is also NB so what the hell. Life is confusing and I seem to be on a mission to make it worse if at all possible.

balmy obsidian
#

I mean

#

Hits close to home, but

noble ivy
#

They sound like quite a catch

tight pier
#

we identify as we're both demisexual and lesbian

thorn hinge
#

correction: strike "seems to be", I am EXPLICTILY INTERESTED in making the world a stranger place

noble ivy
#

*gets short-cycle lanced

zinc topaz
balmy obsidian
#

I'll play gender like I play Uno

thorn hinge
balmy obsidian
#

Give me all your +2s and +4s

thorn hinge
#

actually they're autistic too so AAAA

balmy obsidian
#

AAA and AAAA aren't really synonimous with quality, I'd say

#

More like that it costs a lot of fucking money

tight pier
#

screaming partner

zinc topaz
#

i figured it was shouting sounds

balmy obsidian
#

Or Battery partner

tight pier
#

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

balmy obsidian
#

The more As you add, the smaller they are

#

Juli for example would be an AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

noble ivy
#

Leo post tiny neco-arc

thorn hinge
#

adorable

zinc topaz
#

need me a 9 volt

thorn hinge
balmy obsidian
#

Ho ho, my.

zinc topaz
thorn hinge
#

who said that

zinc topaz
balmy obsidian
#

You did

zinc topaz
#

holy shit

balmy obsidian
#

I know your age is quite advanced but dementia is a bit early.

thorn hinge
noble ivy
#

Dementia? I hardly know ya

balmy obsidian
#

Demons, ya.

zinc topaz
#

you guys are reminding me how long its been since someone actually spoke to me like that

balmy obsidian
#

This flirting stuff is easy you just have to talk about your desire to be a popsicle

noble ivy
#

-# I could say something, but it might be over sharing compared to june

zinc topaz
balmy obsidian
#

I think it does

#

What if you say something you're not actually comfotable sharing

zinc topaz
#

well then that's something else

noble ivy
#

-# It's not too bad soi I'll say it

zinc topaz
#

the result of coercion perhaps

noble ivy
#

You say that but I'm well aware that nobody has ever spoken to me like that

balmy obsidian
#

Yeah? Me neither, get in line.

thorn hinge
thorn hinge
balmy obsidian
#

Bigot

thorn hinge
#

proudly

balmy obsidian
#

Mods, destroy this woman

noble ivy
thorn hinge
#

I'm quite happy to hear all the different ways I can make you yell

noble ivy
#

-# ada, just to let you know I'm a blushing blubbering mess right now and now I have no where to go with this bit.

balmy obsidian
#

Really that's all it takes? Damn

noble ivy
#

-# what? someone simply acknowledging my existence makes me blush. anymore than that and ||I refuse to give Ada ideas||

thorn hinge
#

don't worry I have more than enough ideas for both of us

balmy obsidian
#

Sup Gray

noble ivy
steady adder
#

minecraft has gotten me by the guts again and managed to pry myself free and arrive to what this chat is again WheezeBot

balmy obsidian
#

you've come just in time to get flirted with by old women

noble ivy
#

definitely saw that

steady adder
zinc topaz
#

i didn't :3

thorn hinge
#

I think we can work something out

balmy obsidian
#

dorodaze dot png

thorn hinge
balmy obsidian
#

"Still got it", she thought

west phoenix
thorn hinge
#

you... I don't think I need to even say anything else, lets be honest

zinc topaz
#

just you guys wait until i spend real money on a good laios touden cosplay it'll be over for all of you

balmy obsidian
#

Sorry I don't think that's gonna hit any more than the usual suspects ShitEatingGrin

#

(which is, to be fair, 99% of the chat)

#

The 99% of usual suspects would be very excited

noble ivy
#

Juneiper, I saw that

zinc topaz
#

and the crowd goes wild

#

juniper is actually cute why has no one thought of that before

thorn hinge
#

I mean, I love dunmeshi so I'll be hype for it but you're probably not gonna get me unless it's Falin ||in chimera form||
Or transfem Liaos. Which. Lets face it Liaos and Falin would 100% be the "why the fuck do you look like me" meme is liaos ever got on E

noble ivy
#

you mean as a nickname? because Juniper's been a name since they named a tree that

zinc topaz
noble ivy
zinc topaz
#

anyways i feel like this is me soft launching a cosplay onlyfans

zinc topaz
#

i mean if someone bought me the cosplay i'd do falin but im already gonna have to save up for laios 😭

#

that or you guys are getting $15 max 2 days max falin

#

i thought i'd enjoy sewing but this dracula costume is fucking killing me

safe glade
#

I'll probably have to do a Senshi at some point, but I have no expectations about whether it would thirst trap anyone in particular

steady adder
#

🥴
edit: dungeon meshi spoilers in the hidden image

zinc topaz
balmy obsidian
safe glade
#

My previous cosplays have, in the words of one friend, been attempts to become a mid-size SUV, so bare legs would be a substantial departure

zinc topaz
#

i think i'd make a good laios bc he's got sort of a similar build to me

#

it's refreshing to see anime men who arent either insanely shredded or weigh 12 pounds

zinc topaz
#

alright back to dracula

balmy obsidian
#

I am Dratula

zinc topaz
#

there is a $100 prize on the line at this party and if i'll be damned if im not the one to win it

#

the shirt is going to be the hardest part

#

genuinely dont know how im gonna do this

regal comet
#

today
I drew a bnnuy

#

I'm going to sleep now

formal gale
#

Bnuy

zinc topaz
#

note: the side of my right hand is grey from sharpie ink

thorn hinge
thorn hinge
tight pier
#

GAH

west phoenix
#

ada chill

shell bison
thorn hinge
tight pier
#

gay panic

west phoenix
tight pier
regal comet
thorn hinge
tight pier
#

oh dear what is happening anymore

balmy obsidian
#

Critical lesbian horny mass

regal comet
#

The gays are flirting
Common occurrence

#

Anyways, goodnight everypony!

west phoenix
west phoenix
shell bison
zinc topaz
#

ok 60%, last update for a while bc i have to go figure out the shirt but the cloak has the chain attached and the coat is finished so yay

formal gale
#

Fuck yeah

clever cloud
noble ivy
#

-# for a second, I thought you said "cutest eyes" but that works too I guess

west phoenix
#

eleonor would never give a normal compliment like that

balmy obsidian
#

Why not

#

She can be nice occasionally when the planets align on a full moon with a sacrifice or two

thorn hinge
#

You know, I mentioned that I really never used to flirt until recently but as I drove into the office I was thinking about it and...
IGF is somehow responsible

balmy obsidian
#

This is all the UK's fault

thorn hinge
#

I mean, vex is from there so

balmy obsidian
#

Yes this is why I said that Ada

#

Despite me being French I am not accusing the UK for no reason

west phoenix
#

igf is a romcom

thorn hinge
#

I had always been open to romance in rpgs but my friends rarely were... until IGF

#

but no, it was the knights

#

Well. Claryana first.

#

Calamity met her in a bar and something just clicked as I had her get Very flirty and after teh scene we were all kinda like "what the hell was that"

balmy obsidian
west phoenix
#

its very funny that eleonor not knowing how to flirt has become a character trait of calamity

thorn hinge
#

Then Elske later was 10x worse and 20x even more fun for me and I haven't stopped flirting since

west phoenix
#

she tried with serenity but she just hit her with >:|

zinc topaz
zinc topaz
#

ok i think i got the shirt figured out i just need a base black garment to sew (euuggHHHHH) the white part onto so i guess i'm off to walmart for a xxxl t shirt

#

good news tho: last step! and ive been more productive today than for the last month ive been "working on it"

willow needle
#

guh im so excited, i just finished doing the first 6 fights of my campaign, i just gotta figure out the npcs and the narration of session 0 to set them in

#

im so excited!

cobalt zealot
cobalt zealot
thorn hinge
balmy obsidian
#

SChhh The horny level is critical
I'm going to bed

noble ivy
#

It's been critical for hours

balmy obsidian
#

It is critical critical

#

Like when you go above 100% crit chance and it crits twice

west phoenix
zinc topaz
#

ok i need this 6 year old whose mom just pulled up way too close to my parking spot to either stay in his car or fuckin open the door and get out 😭

#

it took me like 2 minutes to get out of my car

west phoenix
#

white woman moment

cobalt zealot
noble ivy
#

-# can I have a readied action for when the mods bring the hyper-kinetic ban hammers?

thorn hinge
#

I'm just going to brace and tank it

cobalt zealot
#

Reaction: duck and cover

west phoenix
#

look i agree with everything said here i am just too scared to say anything Draculul

west phoenix
noble ivy
#

woah hey

zinc topaz
#

alright time to make a group dm sadcat

cobalt zealot
zinc topaz
#

ok this walmart seriously doesn't have plain black shirts what

west phoenix
cobalt zealot
west phoenix
thorn hinge
#

Maybe we can both give Meow a little help

west phoenix
#

y'all are picking a bad time i just started progesterone again and it always gets me real bad for the first few weeks

noble ivy
#

-# It feels like someone put Prog in Hell's Gate's water supply...

balmy obsidian
#

s'why I'm running away

willow needle
#

oof progesterone made you ill?

west phoenix
#

haha... sure

thorn hinge
#

yeah

#

ill

willow needle
#

huh?

west phoenix
#

don't worry about it kitten

tight pier
#

every time we look in this chat we go ////// and put our face in our hands

balmy obsidian
#

Not ill. Horny.

west phoenix
zinc topaz
#

we're just riling her up now is that it

noble ivy
west phoenix
#

speak for yourself ||bottom||

balmy obsidian
#

No not me

#

To everyone 's surprise i am not eating the prog juice

west phoenix
#

you shouldn't until you're on hrt for a certain amount of time

balmy obsidian
#

Point still stands

west phoenix
#

well yeah because you just started hrt

clever cloud
tight pier
#

oh dear

balmy obsidian
lunar panther
west phoenix
#

(suggestive)

lunar panther
#

how it feels looking at this thread

cobalt zealot
#

(i am absurdly horny)

west phoenix
#

thats crazy but we didn't ask

balmy obsidian
#

What the hell is pawg

west phoenix
#

phat ass white girl hi

willow needle
#

OH THATS WHAT IT MEANT

cobalt zealot
balmy obsidian
#

Gotcha

zinc topaz
#

you guys are making me wonder if i should consider e now

cobalt zealot
#

I am a certified honourary latina

balmy obsidian
#

Heh

zinc topaz
#

does it fuck with you that much in that way

noble ivy
#

We've been doing that since you got here

west phoenix
zinc topaz
#

me when grey square

cobalt zealot
zinc topaz
#

oh its a cat being fed a pills

#

i... see

west phoenix
#

yeah outside of like starting progesterone i'm rarely horny

#

its just the few weeks after

willow needle
zinc topaz
#

:ratnoted:

tight pier
noble ivy
west phoenix
willow needle
#

lol why the thumbs up laugh

thorn hinge
#

that said if you're actually trans and don' know it the depressive effects can be devestating to libedo in a lot of ways. Realizing and embodying your true self is liberating in a way that can change a lot of things and make you far more receptive to your sexuality in new and interesting ways.

tight pier
#

we agree with the nothing pills 👍

balmy obsidian
#

Hello yes i would like nothing pills. They have played us for absolute fools.

clever cloud
#

E changed my libido. it didn't really kill it, just redefined it

zinc topaz
#

interesting

cobalt zealot
#

E by itself suppressed my libido but, as a major caveat, I am on SSRIs and the two are very well known for not getting along

west phoenix
west phoenix
#

literally the worst

#

i'm also bipolar and those 2 do NOT agree

zinc topaz
#

i have a strange relationship with my libido i think 90% of the time i get actually-not-just-joking-horny its immediately washed away by a weird unexplainable guilt and then it goes away

cobalt zealot
supple carbon
zinc topaz
#

i do enjoy cuddling and biting though yeah thats nice

tight pier
balmy obsidian
#

Knife

west phoenix
tight pier
#

wait we didnt mean it like that

balmy obsidian
#

Two knives

zinc topaz
balmy obsidian
#

Yes

willow needle
west phoenix
#

french 'guy'

balmy obsidian
#

I am in bed though checkmate

cobalt zealot
#

if it's not working, stop

thorn hinge
noble ivy
tight pier
#

uho jh

zinc topaz
#

may..be

west phoenix
#

i'm far too vanilla for this

noble ivy
#

-# my vanilla ass is not built for this

balmy obsidian
#

Vanilla is the second best flavor anyway

thorn hinge
#

I love vanilla

balmy obsidian
#

...

#

Third

#

Third best

tight pier
#

our face is in our hands

#

how did we get here

zinc topaz
#

ok i need to get out of this walmart parking lot

noble ivy
#

Something something 2 cups vanilla extract

thorn hinge
#

TWO CUPS

balmy obsidian
#

Actually no fuck this i'm not ranking them

west phoenix
#

french vanilla

balmy obsidian
#

Vanilla chocolate and caramel can all sit at number 1

lunar panther
#

three gallons vanilla extract

west phoenix
#

i am vanilla in many ways

#

white woman /derogatory

thorn hinge
#

Hey, again, vanilla is great

noble ivy
#

Vanilla and caramel is so goddamn good

cobalt zealot
lunar panther
#

vanilla is the best ice cream flavor. I'll fight over this

cobalt zealot
#

you can spritz me all you like

tight pier
#

we wish we had this kind of power, but at the same time, holy fuck

willow needle
#

i just had a vanilla yogurt actually

cobalt zealot
#

you can't fucking stop me

thorn hinge
#

it's classic and serves as a solid base for doing nearly anything with. you can mix in just a touch of other things to keep it exciting while having that familiar basis to work with.

noble ivy
#

Been holding that spray bottle all day to quick draw

cobalt zealot
balmy obsidian
#

Does hells gate have vanilla

west phoenix
#

man

#

i gotta get outta here

thorn hinge
#

Not real vanilla

west phoenix
#

y'all aren't even out of pocket

#

you're way out of the pocket

cobalt zealot
#

i'm outta the fuckin' bag girl

balmy obsidian
#

I'm doing fine i'm normal

zinc topaz
#

apparently, I taste like Froot Loops

willow needle
tight pier
#

this chat will be sucked into the singularity

zinc topaz
#

MY SKIN

tight pier
#

all of this has happened before

west phoenix
#

i'm laughing my ass off this is the worst it's ever been here

noble ivy
cobalt zealot
thorn hinge
#

Though with fancy space futures that's probably pretty good

balmy obsidian
thorn hinge
#

Vanilla beans are one of the hardest to grow plants on earth

willow needle
thorn hinge
#

It's an orchid and fussy for an orchid

noble ivy
#

We gotta heist whatever gmo’ed vanilla strain that ID bought

supple carbon
tight pier
#

we wish we had y'all's confidence

#

steele has a patch on his plaza specifically for himself to have perfect vanilla ice cream

thorn hinge
#

but 90% of the flavor of vanilla is in vanillin, which is really REALLY easy to synthesize. We do it already.

cobalt zealot
thorn hinge
#

I'm just addicted to the wonderful reactions I get from my flirting

tight pier
#

gahh

cobalt zealot
thorn hinge
#

YES

west phoenix
willow needle
#

imagine flirting

thorn hinge
west phoenix
#

i love flirting but man not here lmao

balmy obsidian
#

Catnod

cobalt zealot
west phoenix
#

i, unfortunately, do

#

it's not rizz fruit, you're just being openly horny in public Draculul

cobalt zealot
#

and it's working

balmy obsidian
#

It's working like me on a friday at 16:49

thorn hinge
#

and to be honest if it makes people uncomfortable I'm fine dialing it back but so far I haven't actually been asked to stop
And I'll probably take it easy for a while after today anyway

#

(but if anybody misses it my DMs are open smooth )

balmy obsidian
#

I mean

west phoenix
#

i need to cook dinner, behave all of you or i'll make you

balmy obsidian
#

I was being honest when i said too horny for me i'm going to bed 30 minutes ago

zinc topaz
#

my God, the IGF polycule jokes are getting too real

balmy obsidian
#

I just poke back in because i happen to like talking to people here

west phoenix
#

calliope definitely has a greater polycule

#

and i bet its toxic AF

balmy obsidian
#

Staight up cyanide boat

balmy obsidian
#

It's fine

noble ivy
thorn hinge
#

that's a very platonic 💚 btw

balmy obsidian
#

I'm aware

normal root
#

The greater Hells Gate Polycule

thorn hinge
cobalt zealot
west phoenix
#

honestly i fear the tame stuff i say may be too horny for leo

cobalt zealot
#

just say it to me in DMs

balmy obsidian
#

My own tolerance for how horny it gets varies wildly anyway

zinc topaz
#

do you guys pick heart emojis based on what color you like or do they have a generally agreed upon meaning

#

i usually use 💛

west phoenix
#

fruit i can't you're too much of a freak

tight pier
#

think everyone just unconsciously decides on a heart emoji

#

we only ever use green heart 💚

zinc topaz
#

for no reason other than i like that one

noble ivy
#

I just like the purple one 💜

balmy obsidian
#

Blue is the best color

cobalt zealot
west phoenix
#

purple heart (i survived the igf chat during horny hours)

balmy obsidian
#

But i don't use hearts because i'm a heartless monster

tight pier
willow needle
#

tbh i prefer to use heart emotes where a character is hugging the heart like he3

cobalt zealot
thorn hinge
balmy obsidian
#

That's a thing?

zinc topaz
#

🤍 and 🫶 are actually usually my go tos

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bc i do that one irl a ton

thorn hinge
# balmy obsidian That's a thing?

kind of. I've seen it enough but I don't think it's super true? And also I know at least two girls who put time in to chose a heart based on having seen the meme so it's a bit self-fulfilling in some ways

willow needle
zinc topaz
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is hearthands on the chart

willow needle
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OMG IT DOES???

clever cloud
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jen used to call mine "piss heart 💛 "

balmy obsidian
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Jarate

safe glade
# west phoenix calliope definitely has a greater polycule

🎵 blues lick 🎵
"Gimme a woman in Furnace City, and a man on Hell's Gate, please,
Gimme a woman in Furnace City, and a man on Hell's Gate, please,
I go all around Calliope, gotta have someone to squeeze"
🎵 blues lick drowned out by intrusive dubstep wubs (because Calliope) 🎵

tight pier
balmy obsidian
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Alright, actual sleep now, promise

balmy obsidian
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You may résume the horny, i won't bother no one

tight pier
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Ehhh

cobalt zealot
zinc topaz
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-# i think she meant freak like

noble ivy
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Calliope after dark (where we pass the fuck out and get a good nights sleep)

willow needle
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i shall go to sleep too Sleepy
-# after i listen to my fav playlist~

zinc topaz
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anyways im just a very open and transparent individual and don't think sex and flirting and nudity and etc deserve to be as taboo as people make them 🤷 alas, sorry léo dear

tight pier
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speaking of playlists what are we all listening to

thorn hinge
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I'm gonna log off as well, I gotta go home from work

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Might be on later though

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And I promise to back off on the unhinged flirting (in public)

tight pier
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Hah

zinc topaz
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many of my friends have seen me without clothes on and you learn it's just one of those things that's only weird if you let it be

cobalt zealot
thorn hinge
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So are mine :3

zinc topaz
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but. my current directive is having clothes on and sewing this stupid shirt

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-# i think mine are... could be wrong

cobalt zealot
west phoenix
zinc topaz
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update: this sucks

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but the rest of it looks good so like maybe all together it'll look like i put any amount of effort into the shirt at all