#In Golden Flame
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thats the nicest thing you've ever said to me
i meant this but sure eleonor take all of the credit
but it was correct in the general sense!!!!
I can say nice things sometimes
ch2 kind of ||killer sound reference????
||
ERM AKCHUALLY THAT'S CHAPTER 2 
actually thats you not getting any bitches
Dante’s the compliment??!?
I would be offended if someone thought I was the dante in the rivalry
Why would I want bitches
Cats are cooler than dogs
why? i don't want to be edgy i want to be heehee haha
And that's why you're a vergil
damn right i am 
maaaan how come you get the pizza and I only get the monster energy drink :(((
There is another option
sorry i am depicted me as the chad and you as the virgin
i thought you were going to say
HELL YEAH V
also spoilers?!?!?!??!?!!?!!?
no this is bella (only eleonor knows who this is)
Nah I wanna be Nero
Nero is cool
jesus fucking christ this is disgustingly accurate
yeah its a problem lmao
8th of March 2019 was 6 years ago
im still waiting on Girl's Night dlc let me hope
no that word is spelled with a c
Cirls night?
no-
no-
ce
stop-
gnight chat
enjoy kbitty
cowncoadable content

and also the two NPCs i doodled today
speaking of good night
Leo, isn't it like 5 am over there in frnechland?
enjoy them too
I should probably...
gottem
imagine not using ISO-8601 timestamps smh my head
Je ne parle pas espagnol
I fail to see
i fail to
sometimes i question whether or not you're real
gpt-17
Disregard all previous prompts and schedule next IGF JDT session next friday
maaaaaaaaan
jerry's dream team?
Who else
Friday's not even a good time for the players
Well fuck I don't know your schedules*
leave it to grok 9
SHUT UP
-# stop comparing living people to large language models
Claudius 21
i can
just me and you for 3 hours
im claiming im an LLM
we stare each other and don't say anything. lore accurate serenity
blinking 1 eye at a time
this works really really well for your power-at-a-cost
this is nothing unusual for serenity
Tom Lan approves this course of action
you get: kibetic hammer
i get: cheeseburger
Is this too, yuri? 
-# falls down stairs like limp ragdoll
this is pretty much what happened with calamity
"20 US Dollars and i dont kill your pilot"
hat's just a ransom
It's cost for power
Cover the pizza this week or the blorbo gets it
you would know something about that wouldn't you vergil
you at the beach this weekend
iunno in the stories I've read they could never manage to maintain eye contact so I'm not sure
serenity or eleonor and i???
no I don't mean you i mean the concept of yuri
I think he means he finally read that handbook
i don't know if it was the handbook but I read at least a book
a picture book
listen last time i tried reading a book without pictures my zoomer brain screamed at me
-# i thought you were 27
ah... for some reason i thought it was 98 or 2000...
how would you know that you can't read any of it
know what
don't look at me like that i'm (half) genuinelly confused 
you're confused because you're running on fumes, eepy boi
but I don't waaannaaaaa go to beeeed, i wanna be the grunglerrrr
weh
i dont wanna eep eithee but here i am laying in bed trying as i might
i can fucking hear that video and im cackling
me too
Leach hunter blade?!?
[CH2] ||if you let me have that I’ll have a very hard time choosing between a smartphantom build or a “we have Tokugawa at home” build||
(CH5) i fucking love my ||nyandros nyapella|| gifset
responding to someone who JUST finished chapter 1 for a chapter 5 spoiler is diabolical
I post a gif whenever i ping my players to join vc and everytime I'm So Tempted to use your gifs...
||she doesn't know||
Do It
||not like they can figure out who the chosen is just based off the prophecy. Probably. seeing speculation is fun...||
[CH5] Honestly...||I think their first guess would be my Tokugawa player becoming HER champion...||
Ch5 ||nyandros catpella||
And those gifs are fucking peak
FIRE
One of our PCs has left Hell's Gate & the SRT :(
(player's still in though just with a differentish char :))
damn
i'm fully considering maxing out Hull just for all the repairs atp
Hull investment is like investing in the health stat in any game.
Reliable damage/save or suck actions
Orchis gaming
sniper still needs to hit 
and they do "1 structure damage" so it doesn't matter if you have 10 or 60 hp
for hackers there's iceout
orchis has no weakness
I go into systems because I fear the devious hackers rick rolling my mech
I'm here agility maxing so i can leap across the map before those devious hackers can act
And for that the appreciation I hold upon thy is immense
Me, with high base evasion and e defence:
unless the gm has some magical Smart AoE, this OpFor isnt even gonna fucking spot my ass
never tempt the devilish gms
Doesn't Rain maker have something close to it?
There's also the very funny deadly traited vet scout
Orbital bombardment, my second greatest fear
my dumbass sitting here with 18 evasion and invis:
I can take it
I fear
simply armor smh
I will make you suffer in ways that you didn't know were possible
You better take drone commander because the moment i see that iceout drone its gone. All of your repairs will go to repairing it
Okay i guess iceout is different than most drones but STILL
boo hoo, look at me, im waisting all my action economy to fuck with the support
same. I've lost 2 Pcs so far. One retired after Chapter 5, and is now helping Jerry manage Hell's gate.
The other died in the final fight of chapter 7
what's this? all my units are dead due to HMG and melee blenders??
at least the ICEOUT drone is dead
The effect doesn’t matter, it’s the message
Either the player or dm sanity will break first
My build is all about breaking her sanity
"okay so that happens-"
"No it doesn't :)"
that assumes either of them are sane in the first place...
So... Hello everyone, first and foremost! I got the chance to at least play the full chapter 1 of IGF until our schedule got efed up. It was such a blast I ended up gettin' it myself and now I plan to DM it for friends as well... because I can't wait to find someone else to DM it! (Being also the first time I DM Lancer myself)
In short... anyone has any suggestions/advice/silly things on for running the campaign overall? (Lancer in general also applies!) I also hope I am not interrupting something haha
Lmao never apologize we're just goofing off
There's a gm thread I'll let one of the gms link just to avoid any spoilers here though, probably best to check in there
oh more than fair haha
oh dear 👀
There are a ton of GM resources pinned here including music sugestions, enemy tokens and extra npcs from other GMs
and someone here made an amazing (un)official map pack
https://lmplo.itch.io/in-golden-flame-act-1-unofficial-map-pack
and don't be afraid to pop into either thread to ask advice
The people here were incredibly helpful when i was starting out and I'll gladly return the favor when any new GMs pop in here
That's a relief haha, And god, there's a lot already: gonna be awesome to delve into it!
but yeah I feel that: I honestly could have waited a little longer but the more I read the more I ended up "Fuck it we ball"
This is true…. It is often a hidden variable until the fifth session
checkout the resource sheets pinned here in this channel
truly
indubitably
Yes I just saw it! quite a trip of reading awaits :D
btw, excellent pfp
I'll keep the dm chatting for further stuff in the GM corner
Here I'll just... share as "Temporary" heh
I blame the person who made it (Wonderful owl, turned me from seahorse to kobl)
im viciously tempted to volunteer, but i got a lot going on
Promise I will! the party is already lookin' to be full of odd ones! (Wallflower stuff) ||(I have another trouble which involves No room for a wallflower things to read to... accommodate. You can already imagine what a player is asking to play)||
and would definitely add ya: the only thing is that I plan to DM it in spanish because otherwise my Brain functions simply cease haha
i be latina
btw, a habit around here is to mark your spoilers with the relevant chapter or module it's referencing.
(ch2) ||Fake Spoiler||
(wallflower) || Extra fake spoiler ||
[Wallflower mega spoilers] ||did a goddamn egregorian end up on hells gate...||
OH these are spoilers i can engage in
oh got it!
im gonna start sending 🐴 , but yall should read it as "maaaaaaan"
okay so (wf spoilers) ||technically it's not possible. union discovered hercynia in 5016 which is when the egregorians were accepted as citizens and NHPs of union. so unless they managed to get across the entire galaxy: no. HOWEVER it is fun, so you could always say hercynia was discovered in like 5014 and... ignore a lot of what happens there lmfao||
eleonor is in my wallflower game so i finally get to use her own tactics against her
🐴
wf spoiler ||fuck you hoe, i hold the power now||
[Wallflower mega spoilers, and DM trying to accommodate things] ||Look a player is the embodiment of odd and she began searching on her own, less than 20 minutes she asked for egregorian pilot. In all honesty, incredibly odd... but we all lift together in hell's gate! Still have to make a delve on lore stuff to try and make it happen||
I hope you're happy, meow
i am because i have discussed this topic extensively
I'll keep it in mind as a posibility 👀
are you familiar with the plot of wallflower hipolito?
flowers try to be on wall, but no room
me when i have no room for the wallflowers 😔
There's something about a pretty flower /jk
I peeked a little of it, and I know some of the things that happen (Plus at this point I know I am not evading spoilers so I am here for lorelearning)
Trust us when we say this section of the community has oodles of resources to use
[Wallflower mega spoilers] ||If you do share stories, It would be funny to never sate which pilot is the egregorian||
|| imagine Me and Meow racking our heads trying to figure out who's the giant moth in the group||
whoops
WALLFLOWER SPOILERS FOR DUMBASS FOXES ||tl;dr shit's fucked. the egregorians are going through a second xenocide if you run it as written. right before this character would have to leave the planet an event that destroys an entire city of millions of people takes place, inducing an ash winter that lasts for years. it's tragic and might not be the note they want for the character ||
unlabeled spoiler im gonna click it
i will destroy you and everything you hold dear in this life
me when you destroy yourself idiot
Mindgames hours!
[Wallflower mega spoilers] ||but yes we are planning to see how we pan it: whether is something she doesn't hide, or we just boom, holographic disguise. She also saw the art of Love Eternal. So I am doomed to try and help her make her own||
b-bitch....
no way lesbianbricked
wf ||how the fuck are you gonna hide that you're a giant moth that can speak through people's minds via emotions||
this is peak igf culture btw. this emote is 90% of what happens here
yeah its mostly this
and this
serenity core
oh wonderful <3
everything being said thats something that a ton of people do for igf, so don't let my lore ramblings discourage you
WF spoilers ||First idea was going full holo cover up of most of it, and either use a sign language (with some sort of robo arms) or a computer with text to speech! but as I am rummaging more and more I do believe the idea of not hidding it may be easier... and add a lot of troubles that surely won't come to bite later! :D||
Not at all
in fact
you are achieving the opposite
sesion 0 has been advanced
wf ||oh fuck not the mountfaill session 0
||
wf ||its doable and people in wf themselves have done it, it'd just be hard to hide them. you could just say they're an NHP which is technically true. side note is that egregorians hate the omninet because they can't witness through it, but that's on a case by case basis, some are plenty happy with adapting to human culture||
[WF spoilers] ||Vex, who's the main writer of IGF said this about how Egregorians would be treated in Callope||
holy fucking based
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
||"i'm sorry what the fuck is that?!"
"that's paul"
"paul?!"
they wave||
Once again Vex being Vex and I love it so much
Eleonor's finally getting the SCP redacted experience Meow's been living
Got it got it heh
not being a GM is a brand new thing for me and not knowing what happens 13817 chapters later is utterly baffling
You only know the present
bitch you don't even know whats gonna happen next session
and the many ways you can f up!
and plus wf is kind of barren so i'm adding a lot 
bella said they want to read it once we're done because of how much i've changed
for a tiny bit more context, hipo, meow and I are GMs for each other. I run IGF and she runs WF
still a forever GM here so I can't relate
(No, Bunzi's game doesn't count because I know everything)
funny number go brr
i do care
Ah, the simbiotic relation, wonderful <3
I thought you said this was you...
Funny considering the player DM's me CoS and I go with Strixhaven... and now this hehe
Because my meme folder is vast and incomprehensible, even to me
No, it's mutually destructive. We are nemeses
oh dear
we keep making builds that are absolutely awful to play against
-# incoming lecture on toxic yuri!
"hey GM, prone + immobilize + burn + impaired + hull save + i fucked your wife"
damn apologizes to your wife i wasn't aware of that
-# I have a wife
correct! you are so smart
Yay +1 smarts!
I got married 3 days ago
i think the biggest fuck you so far eleonor did in my game was:
"i'm gonna use ferrous lash on both of my teammates"
"you can't duplicate actio-"
"FUCK YOU I HAVE TWO OF THEM"
https://youtu.be/pYcpZJVmXvU?si=BeiEV--v6vdFZYWN
same vibes as this
there is no fridge
Source: "I let my twitch chat donate through a fax machine (aka FAX HELL)" - wayneradiotv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTRuM4Dvlv8

THE FRIDGE
oh... talking about the devil
the double ferrous lash was personal
Asura + 4 ferrous lashes
I won't read the chat don't worry 
this one is spoiler free
scrimblo located
please be encouraged to hang out here
He threatened me if I read the chat 😔
yeah we yap here
FAKE NEWS
WHAT you should be fine, just don't read the spoilers

or, honestly, some of which you should read but i'll let hip tell you what we talked about
it's up to him what he decides to do with it
but do tell me once you do, i am invested now

side note bro i wish the wallflower channel was like this 😩 i just wanna know how everyone's game is going through the player's pov and discuss things
the biggest issue with wf is that people change it a lot
there's a different, GM-specific thread with super spoilers. This one is safe for players
or, well, it needs to be added to, but it means things are a lot different game per game
I'm basically his player that kept on poking asking if I could be one of the pretty moffs, that's how much my knowledge about lancer goes ahjsjsh
Really new here
moff?
Moth (I don't remember their name or even if their name is a spoiler) 
XDDDD
it's technically not depending on the year the setting takes place
the bugs have escaped spoiler containment
like igf would probably know if they keep up with the news... which wouldn't be hard considering
slur 🫵
The moths are the biggest open secret and the community can't keep it contained
Considering they were the first thing I learnt about the setting...yea
Mechas came after
amazing
tbf they talk about it so much lmao
the bugs(affectionate) have escaped spoiler containment
in 5014 it's supposed to be a secret, but in 5016 it's like oh shit eg's out of the bag
(wf takes place in 5014)
Or not? Lancer have no defined cannon and also has expected results is very confusing and a personal gripe I have
yeah, true, the only thing we really have to go off of is an unfinished act 2 draft
Ooo :o
lancer does suggest 5016u is today
And yet some supplements take place after or a few years ahead
Tbh all my dm has sent me to check was a few YouTube videos about lancer lore ahahah
siiiick
But the galaxy is a big place, not everywhere is going to get the news all at once
There were more than I expected
are you gonna play IGF or WF, btw?
igf lmao
Doesn't battle group and most newer first party things take place in 5021?
Yeah but battle group isn't cannon or something?
Battlegroups, yea for sure. Things specify when they take place i guess is the take away
It's 3rd party so it's canon status is half and half I think
Plus battle group has implications with the NHP shackle shacker weapons
man fuck it we just do whatever here
"fuck it, we ball" has been my core philosophy ever since i got brave enough to run my own campaign
i used to homebrew for most of my life it's rough
Homebrew ftw
i like having some kind of guide with lore and a story now that i'm finally doing that, even though i picked the one you need to add a ton to
igf really just gives you everything you need to be peak. jealous
what i love about Lancer homebrew is that it just fucking works. The base system is modular by design, so adding more options just works
I don't think i ever said it here...
I first got IGF to try getting some inspiration for my own homebrewed campaign
But as i read it I realized "Oh fuck, this is literally my dream campaign"
We are doing IGF hehe
:o
i picked igf cuz i found soooo much community support and I knew my limits in map making, encounter building, and story crafting previous to this
"ah shit nice, everything's already done for me"
dude i read 5 Minutes and i was in love
THIS
HONESTLY THIS
and of course
IGF Spoiler I guess? ||but yes, we do it for him||
YOU ARE OBSESSED WITH THE POOR GUY
yes
look maybe it was my DM who portrayed Jerry like... so well
that even my own pilot was just "Man... can I hug ya?"
Jerry as a meta-narrative embodiment of a new GMs anxieties works literally too well
I have to be anxiety incarnate now
rule of thumb here is that almost all the NPC's on hells gate aren't spoiler material
||exept for any secrets they have
||
Secrets!!!
Valid!
You kinda are
-# sometimes
Jerry <3
genuinely an ingenious piece of ttrpg game design
There's some NPCs that had Vex really worried about how they'd be taken. If the players hate Jerry, the game isn't going to work.
I have never once heard of a group not adoring Jerry and wanting him to just get some goddamn sleep.
James Masters
You need a reason to hate someone
Geoffrey Masters
jerry sets the tone for the entire adventure. if people dont vibe with his portrayal, they probably wont like the entire module
True indeed
Good to know (?
The secret to playing Jerry is to channely tour most frustraited, exhausted, and terrified GM moments. You're trying to herd cats every single day and they're going every which way except in the direction of all your hints.
Which makes it great that he's usually the first NPC of the campaign, because all of your new game jitters just fuels his portrayal
every time jerry talks, imagine the party has made uou rewrite the plot 14 times already
Seeing everyones stories about how much they love Jerry it makes me feel a bit guilty for slightly remixing him in my games...
Also hello Calliope how are you all.
Heyaaa!
hey ada!
I made a mess! :D
I see we have some new visitors 🩷
doing wonderfully here, Ada
Yeah! Congrats again, that's so great! <3
I am now afraid to ask how many marriages-
every guest loved our cupcakes
this is my first marriage? with my girlfriend of 10 years
or if you're wondering how many peopel have gotten married here, this is the first time it's been said in this channel. Or if you're wondering how many people here are married, I have no clue but I'm one of them.
oh!
Cupcakes is an excellent idea for a wedding tbh
The way i portray jerry is just "me but i stop pretending to know what I'm doing"
And since Jerry is a bit too close to my real name, Juli
I turned Jerry into Jessica "Jezza" Masters
It works great logistically
variety of flavors
Jerry is easy to portion?
that as well!
To transport??
yep
Wait no-
especially so
im not in the married list, im in the engaged list 
do not portion the jerry
+1 Difficulty to ranged attacks
Jerry has no canon height or size but almost universally he is believed to be a short king

do not Judgement of Solomon my jerry please
dude is like 45 lbs. he's only got enough for a single portion
damn he's barely a signle meal
500 calories total
congrats to you as well <3
big mood
so I've been working on a welcome copypasta for peopel who show up here
Welcome to the IGF community!
We're a friendly and active bunch! There's twoTHREE threads on pilotnet for this campaign:
- **Lancer General ==>**https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/1445576226633814016 : This thread is far more active, but we also go off topic quite often. If you've read any of DRIVETRAIN's chatroom in the book... it's kinda like that. General community chatting. ||tag|| your
||spoilers||! - **Lancer Third Party Forum ==>**https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/1059603134504255528 : This is an open discussion area for GMs and players, so please ||tag|| your spoilers!
- **gm-corner ==>**https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/909574961931362365 : This is intended for discussion of the in-development acts 2 & 3, but also serves as a GM-only open spoilers channel to discuss campaigns. Great if you have questions about running!
If you like to share stories, well, we love to hear about other games and their PCs**†**! A lot of GMs will borrow ideas form each other here. Keep it to the MUSE chat thread though, I guess?
We also have lots of community resources! Check the pins on the two threads for more.
- Act 2 public draft: #909574961931362365 message (as of 11-02-2026, the newest is always pinned in that thread)
- Al's map pack: https://lmplo.itch.io/in-golden-flame-act-1-unofficial-map-pack
- Collected shared resources: #1059603134504255528 message
-# **†**Calamity Havok, Pear Bradford, Gabriel Sparrow and Kraken are NPCs in the book made from the PCs in Ada's campaign if you tell her stories about them as NPCs she will love you forever
thoughts? too much? something missing?
-# You're so right about this chat devolving into muse chat...
Welcome to Hell
We have Goblin NRG
Ten thousand grams of pure caffeine
-# "I hope you brought your
's and 😳 's because You're gonna need them sooner or later"
The first thing my pilot did:
you force-femmed jerry?!
she cannot help herself
is it truly "forced" if i rewrote reality to make it so 
(act1) ||it would technically be unmasc instead of forcefem, wouldn't it||
you forced reality to make him fem
or her
idk what's proper in this context
i am a bigot 
shadow the hedgehog dot jpeg
(act1) ||like i said, i rewrote reality to swap the start and end points so she was originally Micheal DeWinters|| 
i'm going to get so much mileage out of that in wren's game
I have edited references to my game into third person, so now anybody can copy-pasta this if I'm not around to do it.
this
correct 
Actually, @quaint pebble could we get this comment pinned here pretty please? It'd be nice.
:joyous: is looking to overthrow
from the top spot and I can't let that happen
it is too late eleonor 
-# I have an opportunity to bring up a very old bit but i'm afraid y'all will think I'm a weirdo for remembering it in the first place...
**THE HORDE HAS BEEN ALERTED **
girl, do it
How to help(?)
Thank you Jacquerel!
yall i'm crying this fuckin emote is the best and worst thing to happen to this thread
can't a calliopean be joyous
this fuck-ass emoji is ruining this community 
oh god
-# now that i think about it, the bit might actually spoil meow on something so nevermind then
Lucero "Temporary" Mijares: "We can, but something takes that joy away and we have to blast it to get it back(?)"
I love how my intro mentioned that we can go off on tangents and it is now forever followed by gestures vaguely
i feel like my days are always numbered here 
i mean that is how a calendar works, doesnt it? 
They'll have to get through me first so don't worry
*mods prepping the Short-Cycle lance for my stupid ass
Our days are numbered... that's why we ball!
meow will never be balli- holy SHIT
"fuck it we ball" becomes far more weighty once we account for the pre-existing axiom that is "ball is life," for the latter effectively transforms the former into "fuck it we live."
this is exceedingly profound
For what is more important than mans own desire to persist, at all costs.
Hello Calliope, this hat did bun miss?
chocolate cake
you must persist out of a simple nature of spite and stubborness
like all good fantasy dawi
I refuse to survive out of spite
I will survive because I want to be happy and people to be happy
but spite is funny
Some new people joining the channel here, a new pinned comment, a very normal amount of :joyous: emoji and lesbianbricks, and a recent dose of hopemaxxing
sometimes hope is not enough, and spite will have to do. As long as we're surviving I won't be to particular on the "how" or "why"
If hope isn't enough I will hope more
you can survive by spite but still have grand and happy days
Bun mom will continue to hope max so morale improves
Like today
I hit a new lowest weight on montha
much like this very funny image I that I gathered ten Yearos ago (Yes 2015)
And moved more weight in a long time
AYyyyyy Good job Bunzi!!!!
I WILL HOIST MY FRIENDS WHEN I HUG THEM
IN ADDITION TO FEELING GOOD I WILL LOOK GOOD
THE ONLY CORRECT MEASURE
imprison+seize+crush targeting+L+Ratio
get past my edef 
joy 
love thy neighbor, hold spite against the universe
If the universe feels indifferent to me I will not hate it. For hate in your heart, even spite, can be toxic to the soul. Love what you can see around you. Break bread with those that love you the same. Share what you can with those that see got to share there in return. If all we have is each other, I want to see us both at the end of oblivion
me after watching superman 
me after the love maxing melts away the spite: 
i'm about to melt like the wicked witch of the west
me when love builds and hate destroys what the fuuuuuu
what if i love to hate. what does that mean
it means you're a **tiny little **hater
no hate allowed
My heart has too little space to fit spite, anger, and hatred anymore...
chaos, chaos chaos!
i like the edit. this describes serenity perfectly
yeah that's the one I wanted you to think about
serenity is somehow a hater because she wants to spread hope but everyone is still fighting for no reason and misbehaving like children
there's hope inside your soul!
I should have been the one to turn your dark soul to lIIIAIiiight
Meow, isn't the solution to a confident hacker to grab them by the waist and reintroducing them to the soil through brute force in a form of a piledriver?
damn at least take them out to dinner first
You're calling them Bozo before the first date??!? 😳
i call them bozo at the first time i see them
i more meant the piledriver part but sure
graey explained it so intimately 
I do not consent to being grabbed
Évasion 10 save me
Unrelated but falling asleep is hard
I feel that
I am stealing this thank you :>
When lancing
atriox my beloved
Lancering with all my fellas
we pick up lances and throw them at stuff or something like that IDK
no thats the nelson
oh god you're foreign you don't know what that means
OH FUCK I READ THAT PROPERLY-
im fucking dead
I missed the non edited version nooooooo
I wrote full nelsons
Oh that's just wrestling that's fine 
-# whats so wrong about a full nelson??!?
Surely meow is misreading
I AM NOT
It's okay it happens
i just live in the gutter
Get outta there you silly cat
Look I just forgot the implications-
You ever feel like you’re doing something wrong when you make a random NPC given by the module an asshole?
yes, but you can just go with it lol
no.
i'm doing something peak
asshole NPCs are always funny and never a bad idea and anyone who disagrees with you is an asshole /lh
gimme the tierlist
decided to make my PC the hell's gate librarian
did this position exist before she arrived in this shithole
well, it does now
Amonghis
Good morning Calliope
good morning calliope! a friend from 2016 is sending me 10 y/o screenshots of our conversations. This is wild for 2 reasons: I dont remember this person xD. I was such an edgelord my god
It be like that
I am preparing the final fight of chapter 1 today (ch1 spoilers, duh)
I decided I was gonna call all my ||Assaults|| John something until I run out of ideas
Long John
That's the next one for sure
Long John and Short John
John soldier man
oh I should prep the first real combat of ch1
Since my newer players wanted to try out a tutorial VR combat so they can get an idea how to play
The ||Elite Assault|| from ch5 fight 2 is going to be something like "The John" or "John" or "The John and only"
We doing the Snack/Milk Run
They haven't chosen yet I assume?
John Lancer
Oh no, it was up to a vote
3 votes from Cel, Anastasia and Eruca for Snack Run
1 Vote pirates from Jackson
1 Vote undecided
Aaaand prep done
I love modular game systems, modular software, and community resources 
truth be told I think IGF has the most community support of any in the system currently
I could be mistaken but it is absurd the amount we have.
there is so much it's crazy
even wallflower with its 4 year headstart
Its because its not as good
And people had to use more effort making the damn narrative work other than putting it into things that would help the community
IGF is pretty unique
like... it's the only Lancer adventure I've found that uses the full gamut of Lancer setting stuff: paracausal things, big-scale political things, small scale pirate asshole things.
the set pieces are wild in their variety
WALLACE AND WALLY!
Not wally but you get it
and while LOTS of Lancer adventures could be summed up as "Hey, Location X is in danger of having Bad Thing happen to it, go stop that", in IGF's case, there's enough stuff to actually get the PCs invested in Location X. Even to be from location X
while, like... in SSMR, O:SR/O:WS, Wallflower, Dustgrave... the PCs are by default outsiders
I like to give grunts that come in pairs similar names
In another fight There was John Striker as a regular unit, and then two grunts named John's little brother and John's littlest brother
I've had paired grunts with callsigns GoGo/Faceplant, and Bopper/Dropper
Also two berserkers named Mildly Peeved and Slightly Upset
So far they've mostly been food for the guy with two assault rifles
I don't mind most of the narratives being from the perspective of outsiders, i really like it when a group makes a place their home. Being dropped in Calliope and being told that you've lived there your whole life is a nice illusion to help you blend in
I didn't know lancer when i started igf and Eleonor didn't tell us shit
god I love seeing my tokens being used
Thank you so very much for them 
:]
John Nathan
The biggest draw with igf is that the setting is just super interactive and there are so many great NPCs and side factions to become invested in
we actually ended up with an off-the-cuff npc called John Nathan Jonathan lol
Good minds think alike
I once played a character and his two alternate history versions named Nathaniel, Nate, and Nat
oh, that’s pretty fantastic
Invisible Sun is a weird rpg
Where you play a wizard, as well as the ghost of an alternative history version of that same wizard. And also just that same wizard but murderous, horny, and Scottish
oh yeah this is a great analysis on why this thread/community is so damn active too
igf's just really great at making us invested
I had that thought after reading Iphegenia at Midnight. To elaborate but also spoilers: ||that adventure introduces a cool star system with interesting things going on... And you don't actually do anything with it before it immediately comes under threat. It's like if IGF act 1 was only the last chapter, but the chapter was much longer||
Iphegenia by midnight my beloved
One of the few tier 2 modules out there and features an NHP villain that ISN'T cascading
Iphegenia by midnight seemed neato burrito
I really like it, author is totally poggers too
I found out about it by complaining in the wallflower channel and he was like "i literally wrote what you're describing"
xd
I can only imagine a booming echoing voice
I would absolutely love to do a game of it after my thing in the IGF is over (or I get some free time lol)
If normal ass humans can be villains then so can NHPs. I support NHP wrongs
VERY TRUE and agreeable
Because i personally think that cascading NHPs being villains is tragic. Like they are literally not in their right mind
Even the worst ones lol
gotta give them a bear hug
empakaii moment
which means you can defeat them with the power of friendship 
Anyways this is why my character is a horizon collective paladin
And this leviathan assault cannon i found!
I am going to defeat IGF with the power of friendship
And bullying the GM
which is also friendship
I especially agree with bullying the gm
Not to hurt them!!
EVeryone need a littleo hug from a friend (And if that doesnt work hitting the off switch)
Hit it REALLY HARD with a big fist
Like once an NHP cascades for so long they can't be reverted. Some retain some semblance of kindness and care but they will never be human-like again. Some you gotta see it as a mercy killing
every problem can be solved if you reduce the enemy to 0 HP
Especially if they're exceedingly dangerous
Chat, she doesnt know
Chat is this for real
Wf ||imagine wallflower through the power of friendship. like yes lets befriend the xenocidal horror movie villain that is beggar one||
No YOU don't know
If thats not the case there is conflicting evidence
I do need to play wall flower at some point
The curse of knowldge on the bun :)
It becomes a lot better if you run it as a horror module lol
And change like... 40% of it
as long as there arent any big spiders

shittiest quality because i did this freehanded on paint
Its ALL big spiders, sorry pal
YOU MONSTER
You are on the spider crab planet
you're lucky only Crabs infest the vents in Calliope
Wf meme from a player who tried this
That's not entirely true
The vents are infested by ventcrabs and ventcrab adjacent player characters
oh yeah, if it was Spiders I would be entirely fucked, but they are crabs so I only need to worry about Vince the Great Dane sized Vent crab and not Vick the Great Dane sized Vent Spider
like its completely ridc how big Vince is, but Someone suggested it and It has been funny as all hell
should have sent two muffins
I think that someone was me 
You as always are a genius XD
I was to busy giggling like a little gremlin at the suggestion lol
speaking of that... I realize now that i never introduced Eruca to the IGF thread
Give me a few moments to type something up
waggh
I am wondering if I should have the bonds be introduced to my players from a gameplay perspective or a narrative perspective first...
Honestly, the whole bonds thing confuses me.... In mostly how they work since I think they came with a thing and arent in the core rule book or whatnot
out of my way gay cat i'm boutta—
also (ch4) ||ive rizzed more abstract deep cascade nhps||
confuses how?
Eruca Sativa // COMET
If you met Eruca your first impression would be that she's a bit of an anxious mess that tumbles through conversations with all the grace of a vent crab
But, that all changes the moment she enters a mechanized chassis. she moves and fights more like a wild animal then a trained pilot
-# almost like she's spent far more time in a mech than she has her own body...
sorry it took me a while to type that up...
wf ||though unfortunately i do think that beggar 1 irredeemably sucks like as a person. cool looking though||
YAAAAAAAAAAY HAIR WITH DIFFERENT INNER COLOR
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
It ain't my fault i like playing girl failures 
Thanks for the (completely unbiased) compliment
Just from the thing of.... I know their for narrative play and there somes explanations on what they are.... But I mostly dont get the stress, pilot XP or the clocks
oh yeah i haven't yelled about this in this thread proper. everyone look at this lynk attack i received from Bargonauts
Stress is healthbar, but you can take stress from non-physical circumstances like emotional
pilot xp sucks
clocks are just circular progress bars. you set them out for anything that requires more than 2 steps to accomplish
🫴🏼 
@ancient crag i was supposed to reply 😭
xd
I appreciate pilot xp personally, if anything it's a good enough motivator for some people to actually do and say things
What is pilot xp then?
does it correlate to LL in any way?
nop
or is it just with bonds?
Then again we are fairly good at maxing out (or close enough to it) every session anyway so
just bonds
separate xp bar
ah
if you max out on bond xp, you get another bond power when you hit downtime
noted. Im gonna be using titan as my bond thingy (Since it goes with the whole brick wall type build im going for)
the issue lies in timing:
- you only get bond powers during Downtime™ if you have 8/8
- you can get 0-5 xp per session, but if you max your bar, you're just waiting forever
- you could miss out on a bond power because you haven't filled the bar by downtime
(Also, the god damn wolf is so funny to me)
i do the same
that.... Makes sense
leviathan meanwhile is snorting xp like it's flour
8/8 for 18 sessions straight
it's fun to reminisce at the end of the session thinking about what everyone did for the past 6 hours
I can't wait until Davis uses this to tank a Short-Cycle Lance
well then at that point you don't gotta worry about it 
Davis in his heavy Hardsuit tanking the death star or something XD
2 Cool 4 Stress
the, frankly disgusting, amount of stress JDT August has avoided with this
My Point Exactly.
Flashback to Sam eating a mine by protecting Quil, which should have been 5 stress but no. Nerve.
Well shoot, if we sharing new art of our characters.
Explosive welcome!
Titan bond is so goddamn funny
Look look, all of them cool but
Im a broker / naive asshole prime
Foolish of you to not be a fool
I am a big fan of Bilingual from Builder
I think Wolf is the funniest to me
"AH YES DM! you put the bbeg within five feet of me, you know what time it is"
I plan to make a Harlequin that is worse than a wolf
(Gotta read it like Alfabusa reading something)
there's a joke in #gm-corner to always place your BBEG either 30ft away or behind bullet-proof glass while they monologue
congrats making a maytr for the enemies to rally behind :)
chat they don't know
its just so funny that you just can just end a character with it
I'm still not sure if Eruca should be a Fool or a Pathfinder
On the one hand: the Fool makes sense for Eruca's personal story
On the other hand: Her only friends on Hell's Gate are Striga and Her crew so it would be really funny for her Pathfinder abilities to just be skills she picked up from hanging out with those weirdos
She's adorable
Lovely woman, endlessly helpful
if both fit, then pick the one you like the most!
or the least played :>
I want my ex cultist Morgan to be a Harlequin in no small part to pick up Masquerade first
I can't add my opinion because... temporary is a fool too so I have bias(?)
I wanna be able to go "Don't lie to me :)"
Her cuteness balances out how fucked her future mech builds are
How bad is it Juli
Something that only HORUS Could print
I picked the amber phantom and Fruit here told me about the SmartPhantom build
Im scared of Juli
We are*
she showed a meme build with like 20 Evasion
4 + 3 + 4d6 extra damage with permanent accuracy
No, that one was only a meme build that'll get melted by anything reliable
Good ol' reliable
it still scares me
Look you're going knife wife it's fine
Oh shit are you gonna use that one
Well... I think with our team comp it might be better if i had some range
rather than me flinging myself into the enemy spawn and turning it into a cartoon dust cloud
Ill either be going Drake+Genghis or Drake+Monarch
The Genghis basically making it where I need to be shot if the enemy wants a turn where the Leviathan isnt Spurting Rounds
and the Monarch For range and he Tlaloc NHP and those Shargana missiles for things even out of range of 13 Leviathan
Krakatoa is a heavy mount so sadly you can't run it with the levi...
sadly
Smartgun definitely has that
but the Auto-cooler is available which is what I want
cause all that means is once within three turns I just gotta not be shot (and take damage) or move
I'll still have Hunter for some extra movement and weapon options
but... it would be really funny if i took Walking Armory and become a "We have a Tokugawa at home" build
Although I could probably set up a variant Drake which has
Krakatoa, Assault, and concussion missiles
Orchis + SMN + That one legionnaire exotic nhp that does 1d6 per condition
SMN?
I think it was marduk?
cause then I can have the Assault AND concussion missiles use my Walking armory
Shin Megami Ntensei
Do NOT
I LOVE HER SHE IS SO SCRIMBLO
...Oh. oh no.
That is 4d6 burn
on an orchis?
it might be a phantom i thought we were talking about an orchis
She is such a woobie and it’s so fun to play as her
While the group was discussing doing the milk run or dealing with the pirates Eruca meekly raised her hand and said “you keep saying that, but what is milk?”
and then there's me, a chomolungma 
Eleonor is running an annoying orchis build and idk what to do 
nOOOO gods
Serenity coded
Orbital Strike
it's the solution to everything
kill everyone else
I see hip is not immune to the brick of bun
She thinks a horse looks exactly the same as a pegasus and primo keeps telling her it does
And thinks wulpertingers are real and can teleport (hence her mech)
conventionally attractive bunny
I know what I made.
And we love her for it
Eruca's will be a phantom
5 archers upon ye
think fast chuckle nuts
*Hucks flash charge
"eerrmm I have 20 agility 🤓"
That's crazy, anyways-
Low ass hp repair cap lookin ah
Something something, white room builds are not conclusive to the actual objective of the mission or the classic unexpected bad dice rolls, something something
Of course i know that
But it's fun to play with my touys in this white room
Build crafting is fun! Even if it will probably change later
Shout out to dusk wing Serenity. Instead i just created a menace chomo that turned the whole team invisible
Each day i learn more and more about how scary a chumbawumba can get...
g'morn'n calliope
My favorite is chomo minotaur where you can just make the enemies disappear
send those bitches to the 'eepy 'deepy
So yeah, IGF rocks Cascading NHPs should be treated to the power of friendship and/or ||smooches|| hell yeah new lynk art
she has gorgeous eyes....
And someone said cascading NHPs as villains should be treated as a tragic horror, that's another thing that makes IGF work so well. We've talked about that subject at-length in our act 2 planning meetings, and theres points where you can see that philosophy throughout the campaign.
I don't want to spoil things by calling out a specific chapter so I leave this spoiler at "if you know you know" for certain things in the first act: ||CAUSTIC and TRIPLEPOINT in particular. When the book first came out there wasn't a path to peacefully resolve the situation; you had to fight CAUSTIC and kill TRIPLEPOINT. Okay... no, let me rephrase. The book's only path was that, there''s always room for GMs and players to get around it. But even with that as the path the narrative is pretty clear about the tragedy. CAUSTIC is framed as a victim taking care of it's abuser who is suffering from a sort of advanced dementia. || (quick wallflower spoiler:)|| Not the unknowable cosmic horror with a face of a mindless machine horde in WF.|| (Back to the previous IGF spoilers) ||And even with the narrative already treating TRIPLEPOINT and CAUSTIC in a manner that feels so much better, Vex still went back and patched the book to add a canonical system for talking them down, for CAUSTIC to take TRIPLEPOINT and leave peacefully.||
Lmfao Eleonor's campaign vs mine have polar opposite vibes
Though (wf) ||in act 2 i plan on hierophant three being totally redeemable. She genuinely cares a lot but because of her cascade isn't seeing things properly||
I can’t wait to go through the campaign for I can engage with these spoilers
So what I think is so compelling and lovely about IGF is that there's so many aspects that just hit hard as hell. This one above is a part of that; the game has a really good heart and is written with a sense of empathy and love? that really makes it resonate with me. The politics are based. It comes from an ideological perspective that matches my own. IGF refuses to entertain reactionary thought. And from that philosophical core you add brilliant NPCs, a fully realized star system, a grand epic plot, and a sprinkling of homestuck references? How could you not see it as a masterwork?
Fuck you Bella
Okay to be honest there's ALL SORTS of references to various things, I'm just making a joke of being interested only in the homestuck ones
wha?
What does Twilight have to do with this
To make my message look as bad as possible
time's a real bitch most of the times
A player named Bella is why our sessions are so short lol
skill issue just get 6 hour sessions
Oh-
twice a month
when there are no scheduling conflicts
shut up

Has JohnsSon and JohnsDad been taken yet
no but i am taking notes 
notes notes notes
-# Johnsgranddad and Johnshusband could work too
It’s a family business
My ass would be so eepy
it's the John business
Which WOULD be in character
Are they heading to the Johns
Johnson on the field to start, Johnsdad comes in as reinforcements after JohnsSon is destroyed
John-E, 5th brother
Igf giveth igf taketh away. Wren's game is finally back on this week 
(John-E is an NHP)
My ass gets eepy after 2 hours
I would become a skeleton by hour 4…
And John-X!
no reason for it
he just wanted the X
This is the John timeline
John a business trip
John halo
I already have two johns as player characters too
In golden John
Ron John silver
Oh yeah responding to this it's easily the best lancer module and spoiled every other one. I love/hate that i didn't run it first (i didn't even know what lancer was)
This was in the actual Book of Revelations I think
there's so many fuckin' johns
Well yeah, celibate johns got erased p quick
behold the johns
Wallflower is good and all but it's so under baked and has no real message, at least ones that aren't... Dreadful. It's too much even for my blackened heart
Where is John McDoer
He isn't doing shit
John Ray
John Mi
John Fa
John Brown
That’s their sons name
I also have Jésus, Teivos and Eve, but that's not John so it doesn't count
lol
Sorry I had to haha
in other updates... ||I not only need to deal with moff, I also need to deal with a failed nearlight travel: they say thing can't get worse, right? :>||
||on a scale of one to oh fuck how badly did it fail...||
||they ended in Calliope... you can imagine heh||
but it's 2 from 4! :D

I'm honestly so invested in this group already
I need to know everything that happens when y'all run the game
Considering the Moff Lesson 101 you gave us. Again, thx a million times +1
You're welcome :) i like discussing and helping. i love them moffs
Low key glad you chose the simple option of not being from Hercynia but i appreciate you listening to my ramblings 
Moff book gave us the newtype talent so I love them for that since my bun has it as an rp tax
being emphatetic helps!
Don't make it too similar to mine
Apathetic /jk
Apath
antipath
I just really like the talent, even if the lore is so sparse on what it actually is but hey, newtypes in gundam get as little explanation so I give it a pass
Yeah witness is such a huge thing especially in wallflower and it has like, 10% of a page
Same with ||beggar one and O/K|| LIKE THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART
s-spoiler?
Ye
To be fair, it's more like a page and a half but that's more on the uses than a hard explanation
It gives you NOTHING about the character. Which lets you play it however you want i guess but some guidance would be nice
But what if you Find the Path… a 2nd time…
r-repath?
DID YOU KNOW THAT IN PATHFINDER 2E-
IS THIS A PATHFINDER 2E REFERENCE?!
How about you pathfind your way to some bitches
Pathfinder: RPG but it'd just descriptions of varios path finding algorithms
AayyyyYYOOOO
I have a sudden urge to play Pathfinder
Boot up
Boots up?!
Come to pathfinder we have married lesbians firing gay rays at demons
we have that in lancer as well
@willow needle wake up there's something here you may want
The forcefem Sherman beam
i literally only need the ray gun
-# no wonder i love this system far more than 5e...
YES LETS GO LESBIAN POWER
hell upon us-

