In Golden Flame

[last leaf]

I have an exotci nhp in pixel's game

or more accurately the exotic nhp has me (the nhp was there before I joined the party and the nhp chose my character not the other way around)

[silver pumice]

||same nhp as me||

||/lynk||

[clever cloud]

best friend nhp

[balmy obsidian]

Teehee

[west phoenix]

the now canon ariadne

(she hates her)

[balmy obsidian]

Does that mean they are going to kiss

[clever cloud]

ok but serenity hates everyone with like 3 exceptions

[west phoenix]

yes

who are the 3?

[last leaf]

this is not going to get confusing

[balmy obsidian]

Jerry Calamity Loki?

[west phoenix]

ariadne (annoying) and ariadne (adorable)

[last leaf]

which one is which

[clever cloud]

serenity out here with the largest polycule

[west phoenix]

i hate you

i'm being forced into a relationship this is like the calamity situation all over again

[balmy obsidian]

Me naming my character after my internet handle so no one gets confused who it is

[silver pumice]

are you sure

[west phoenix]

yeah there's never been another leo ever

[clever cloud]

serenity is like a venus fly trap for polyam yuri

[west phoenix]

your game ariadne is adorable and her and archie are besties

[silver pumice]

serenity 🤝 alice

[last leaf]

not really your fault but I've had several mental leaps and now I'm imagining a campaign premise of going out and recontacting a world and the entire planet is just an elaborate portland polycule joke

[silver pumice]

...wait a minute both are even bunnygirls

[west phoenix]

and... eleonor's(?) ariadne is much more like archie lmao

[silver pumice]

at least in spirit

alice does have functional bunny ears

[noble ivy]

If calliope’s largest polycule is only in the single digits then someone needs to step up their game

[west phoenix]

annoying vtuber who has a superiority complex

[silver pumice]

i need to count how many people alice has rizzed

there is a lot (she will not be stopped)

[west phoenix]

reminds me of where i live (i'm doxxing myself)

[clever cloud]

ok but i use very few npcs, so having serenity collect like 40% of them is a feat

[last leaf]

has anyone proven that endymion's lament isnt just one massive polycule?

I'm pretty sure this is how burden of proof works

[west phoenix]

the funny thing is that serenity has negative rizz she just wins over everyone by being such a sad soggy cat girlfailure

[silver pumice]

that's actually so real

[clever cloud]

jerry dating

[west phoenix]

apparently jerry has game... yet another similarity

[silver pumice]

all the nhps in this module very kissable

[clever cloud]

*had?

[west phoenix]

no no, he still has game, he just needs the time to flex it

[balmy obsidian]

I do not thonk most nhps on the module are kissable

[west phoenix]

wrong

[balmy obsidian]

But that might be a me problem

[clever cloud]

you need to starting thinking then

[balmy obsidian]

No

[noble ivy]

Coward

[balmy obsidian]

Yes

[west phoenix]

i've met 2(?) and i would die for them

[silver pumice]

(ftr im aroace i just really like "ai" type characters)

[west phoenix]

ESPECIALLY siren

[balmy obsidian]

Dying for someone does not automatically translate to wanting to kiss

[west phoenix]

i would KISS HER TO DEATH

IDIOT

[silver pumice]

(im not even into middle aged masc looking people usually but all my neurons activated when i saw that fucking nhp from wallflower (they're not even a good person))

[balmy obsidian]

Leo would die for quil but he would not kiss him

Yet

[last leaf]

cursed thought, there's almost certainly in world rpf yaoi about CHAAC

[west phoenix]

don't tell me it's who i think it is

OH

[balmy obsidian]

Who

[silver pumice]

IM SORRY.

[west phoenix]

WAIT NO IT'S PATIENCE

OKAY PHEW

no dude i thought it was ||beggar||

[silver pumice]

JRJSJJFSJJFNS

[west phoenix]

no eleonor ||thats just eleonor's character in my game||

[silver pumice]

HUH

HUH ???????????

[west phoenix]

HAHAHAHA

[silver pumice]

:CONCERN:

[clever cloud]

idk who this is but i have enough partial insinuations to know this is funny as hell

[noble ivy]

I just remembered i had this meme saved

[balmy obsidian]

What I've learned is that there will always be someone

[west phoenix]

dicks mention!!!!

i love it when they give fast food workers fair pay and great benefits!!!!!

[silver pumice]

ive learned local american establishments always have the most fuckass names apparently

[clever cloud]

it's good for business

[balmy obsidian]

I never had dicks before but apparently it's pretty good

[last leaf]

okay you're just tempting fate there leo

[clever cloud]

"Joe's Toes" selling the sickest, coolest brick oven pizza in Louisiana /j

[balmy obsidian]

Whatever do you mean

[silver pumice]

dear god leo

[balmy obsidian]

We are talking about fast food yes?

[last leaf]

you're getting it fast evidently anyway

[clever cloud]

fast? sorry to hear that.. 😞

[west phoenix]

big bill hell's cars

[balmy obsidian]

FUCK YOU BALTIMORE

[last leaf]

any particular reason?

[balmy obsidian]

Yes

Pavlovian response

[last leaf]

I was willing to support the motion regardless but good to know

[clever cloud]

🎵 Good Morning Baaaaaltimooore 🎵

[west phoenix]

leo we will support you no matter what, even if you're a coward /j

[clever cloud]

the joke is that we dont support cowards

[west phoenix]

its funnier now thanks for explaining it

[noble ivy]

-# but you all supported me when i was to cowardly for my bits?

[west phoenix]

no you should be more of a coward

[noble ivy]

maybe

[west phoenix]

IM KIDDING

besides we can't top dragonfruit

oh my god

i hate it here

[noble ivy]

what does that have to do with any thing we said??!?

[silver pumice]

masochistic vampire furry call that garlic—

[west phoenix]

dragonfruit is just thirsty!!! that's it!!!!

we cannot beat out dragonfruit on her level of thirst you fucking freaks!!!!!

[shell bison]

~~Charlotte thought about it. ~~

[noble ivy]

ohhhh... we can't surpass Dragonfruit...

[west phoenix]

hammers to all of you

[noble ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hammer-annoyed-giant-gif-24029759

[shell bison]

WHY ARE WEIRDING ME

[clever cloud]

anyways here's gay norwegian chainsaw man

[shell bison]

HE'S NICE

[silver pumice]

awesome

[west phoenix]

the tacos

[shell bison]

EYO TACO STAND IN THE BACKGROUND

[west phoenix]

jerry is not for dating

[noble ivy]

oh my god the death grip he has on pochita

[west phoenix]

besides, he would not survive

[clever cloud]

norwegian taco shops slap because they're very international fusions

[silver pumice]

oh yeah speaking of jerry (vague ch5 post final battle)
||someone half jokingly theorized that a reason why marthe's 'unbound' is that jerry doesn't have kids in this timeline (reminder that marthe is from the future feather was from)||

the revelation that ||jerry's deadsurname was dewinters||really shook her i think she's been punched in the face so many times this chapter

also striga is demanding lynk to explain lynx cascade LOL
meanwhile lynk has developed some distrust/grudge about her around chapter 4 due to Various Reasons

[west phoenix]

oh no i already don't trust her

[noble ivy]

coward

[silver pumice]

striga has been friends with lynk for years, longer than they've been in the srt

[west phoenix]

anyone more odd than my characters can NOT be trusted because my characters can't be trusted

[silver pumice]

coward

[clever cloud]

jenny just doesnt know how to have fun

[noble ivy]

what a sad and lonely world view... /j

[silver pumice]

(CHAPTER 4) but ||striga's role in chapter 4, lynk being a circuit member, striga apparently knowing the whole time, and also the whisperings in the Outer Myriad|| really worsened their already paranoid tendencies

[balmy obsidian]

I'd love for you to explain what makes me a coward

I've accepted that fact but i like to hear the arguments

[noble ivy]

Exhibit A:

[balmy obsidian]

Mere difference in opinion

[west phoenix]

a cowardly opinion

[balmy obsidian]

I think standing against evil is not cowardly

[clever cloud]

that's not the point of contention

in fact, it's complementary to evil = hot

[balmy obsidian]

How so

[clever cloud]

yuri

[balmy obsidian]

Im a guy

[clever cloud]

a villain challenging you to defeat their hot evil self is also hot as fuck

[noble ivy]

so?

[west phoenix]

i can fix them or they can make me worse. or both! it's a win win

[noble ivy]

are you saying you hate yuri?

[balmy obsidian]

No

But i am antithetical to it apparently

[clever cloud]

Dio is a classic example of this

[balmy obsidian]

I do not thonk dio is hot

[clever cloud]

leo...

[noble ivy]

you keep saying that but i have no idea what you mean...

[balmy obsidian]

If you fix them then they aren't evil anymore

[clever cloud]

well yeah but then it turns into soft-core trauma healing which is also yuri and hot

[balmy obsidian]

Cause everytime someone says "this is yuri" i don't get it

[balmy obsidian]

But not evil

[clever cloud]

ok? it went from one type of hot to another??

[west phoenix]

i'm just a fan of tragedy and villains usually fit that

[noble ivy]

you think i was born with an innate understanding of Yuri?
don't be hard on yourself just because you're still learning

[west phoenix]

but some are just evil and that has its own charm, but they have to be charismatic and fun

[balmy obsidian]

But you told me itws the healing that's hot

[west phoenix]

our understanding was forged in the mines

[west phoenix]

ME WHEN LIFE IS MULTIFACETED

[clever cloud]

me when i find two things hot

[west phoenix]

MUCH LIKE GENDER THIS WORLD IS NOT BINARY. ACCEPT MULTITUDES

[clever cloud]

call that bisexual

[balmy obsidian]

But :(

[clever cloud]

"yea, im into kisses and holding hands"

[balmy obsidian]

But why is evil hot

[clever cloud]

BECAUSE OF POWER DYNAMICS LEO

BECAUSE GAY WAS CONSIDERED EVIL

[balmy obsidian]

What i understand so far is evil hot because you can make them not evil

[west phoenix]

or they can make you evil

i said that as well

[balmy obsidian]

But i don't want that :(

[west phoenix]

or you can make them less evil and they can make you more evil

[clever cloud]

BECAUSE HAVING SOMEONE CORRUPT YOU IS HOT

[west phoenix]

OKAY WELL WE ARE TELLING YOU WHY WE THINK IT

YOU CAN'T SAY YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHEN WE ARE EXPLAINING IT

https://tenor.com/view/to-the-depths-with-you-cat-depths-to-the-depths-gif-7441909642438936732

[clever cloud]

there's this whole ass field of study of how tabboo turns into kink

being evil is taboo

[clever cloud]

getting turned evil is unspeakable!

could you imagine having to commit "attrocities" against your will???

[west phoenix]

we are not goody two shoes like you. we are vile, despicable, repulsive

we are FLAWED

[clever cloud]

breaking out of social norms is definitionally gay

and gay is hot

[west phoenix]

and usually villains just look hot. i can't explain it they just build them like that

[clever cloud]

having someone else guide you down the path of social abnormality is a tried and true trope

[noble ivy]

I hope you're taking notes, Leo
because even I am learning from this

[balmy obsidian]

I hope it came accross i wa being facetious

[west phoenix]

eleonor is truly a yuri expert

[west phoenix]

oh. no, i thought you were serious

[clever cloud]

thank you, i studied the manual

[west phoenix]

i only skimmed over it for the basic rules to run it

[clever cloud]

lmao

[west phoenix]

i didn't read the lore

[clever cloud]

okay this part im gonna spoil for more nsfw discussions but it's not porn, it's academic

[balmy obsidian]

Eyebrow raise

[clever cloud]

(nsfw) ||did you know men like more "torturous" bondage kinks? way more than women? bondage is popular across genders but torture is more common in men because it keeps their sense of power intact!

"I'm not participating in taboo! im being forced to! my manliness is intact because i am not submitting to this treatment!! woe is me!!!"||

power dynamics are sexy

playing with them is at the heart of like... 90% of sex and romance

the whole premise of the evil temptress is that, someone who has, traditionally, less power than you is someone completely in control of the situation and you

anyways, that concludes my thesis on evil = hot

[balmy obsidian]

[clever cloud]

i killed chat

[west phoenix]

i was reading!!!

and it can go beyond temptress eleonor your lesbian is showing

[cobalt zealot]

Evil women are hotter

[west phoenix]

nice opinion, lesbian

[clever cloud]

this applies to straight men and women too actually

[noble ivy]

Dragon, for meow's sake don't scroll up

[cobalt zealot]

What the fuck I go to sleep for an hour and I'm being slandered???

[clever cloud]

LMAOOO

[west phoenix]

hahahaha

i'm not hiding it

[cobalt zealot]

This is an outrage!

[west phoenix]

temptress is feminine is all :p

[clever cloud]

yes! im being very specific!!

[cobalt zealot]

temptress (male)

[clever cloud]

omegaverse...

[cobalt zealot]

No.

[west phoenix]

i'm just saying evil men and nb, etc can be hot as well

[cobalt zealot]

Femboy.

[west phoenix]

i've yet to meet ||ignatius|| but he's hot

[cobalt zealot]

I was talking about femboys.

[clever cloud]

ah

[noble ivy]

we do not have time to for an academic discussion on ABO...

[west phoenix]

nor do i want to fuckin hear it

[clever cloud]

I HAVE BOOKS WORTH OF DISCUSSION AND STUDY

[noble ivy]

GOOD FOR YOU, MY FRIEND

[west phoenix]

this truly is a channel of all time

[clever cloud]

lmao

i will now shut up forever about this

[west phoenix]

NOOOOO

its just funny

[noble ivy]

-# coward

[clever cloud]

girl?!

[noble ivy]

yes?

[clever cloud]

the vibe i was getting from the room was "ok sweetie time to go to bed"

[cobalt zealot]

I personally think ABO stuff is for middle aged white women

[clever cloud]

Yes!

and it's exceedingly interesting learning why!!!

[balmy obsidian]

What the fuck is ABO

[west phoenix]

jokes on you i am rapidly approaching middle aged white woman status

[clever cloud]

alpha, beta, omega

[cobalt zealot]

Tell me about it sometime because an actual answer/explanation is genuinely interesting to me

[balmy obsidian]

That does not tell me much

[noble ivy]

smut based on an extremely flawed study of wolves

[balmy obsidian]

Got it

[clever cloud]

extreme tl;dr ways to circumvent the patriarchy without challenging it! basically cishet queerness

[west phoenix]

they want to be us so bad

[balmy obsidian]

Oh i remember

[clever cloud]

Now. There are amazing, and very queer authors in the space. I'm just doing a rough average over the premise

[noble ivy]

-# and yet here we are having an academic discussion of abo...

[clever cloud]

oh girl this is just the abstract on the paper

[west phoenix]

you're probably wondering how i ended up in this situation...

[noble ivy]

something something "throw me to the wolves"

[balmy obsidian]

I remember someone sent a quizz about this on another server i'm in

[west phoenix]

juli... you can't say that... i want to finish it so bad

[clever cloud]

flashback to vex like 3 days ago being like "this chat aint ready for my [redacted] fic"

[cobalt zealot]

you're thinking of that meme aren't you

[balmy obsidian]

Throw me to the wolves and I'll die

[west phoenix]

i'm always worried about overstepping my boundaries and then vex comes in here talking about stuff way beyond my degen levels lmao

[clever cloud]

vex is very funny in bsky

in a very 18+ way

[cobalt zealot]

-# can we not use the word degen please

[west phoenix]

wha huh

sure i'm just confused

[cobalt zealot]

"degenerate" is... it's a very loaded term?

[clever cloud]

yea no prob

[lapis cloak]

Need to make a couple Tokens using the Hell Hounds color scheme, does anyone know what the specific numbers are for the colors on Retrograde Minis?

[west phoenix]

oh yeah i just looked up the official definition and i didn't know that was the original use for it

[cobalt zealot]

I don't think there's really a framework in which it works/makes sense to reclaim "degenerate" as a word because of its intrisic ties to fascism

[west phoenix]

there should just be a camo file!

[clever cloud]

there's a resource sheet attached to the pins here that has a camo file

[balmy obsidian]

<- clueless

[clever cloud]

let me see if i have it around real quick

[noble ivy]

here's a camo preset i have on hand

[clever cloud]

here!

if you click the message, there's one more below

[cobalt zealot]

-# I'm sorry for killing the mood

[clever cloud]

eugenics

[west phoenix]

nah i just didn't know

[clever cloud]

thanks for making me look that up because i need to prep those tokens

[west phoenix]

and i stay quiet when the gms gotta step in and help lol

[lapis cloak]

Thank you

Am I able to upload that preset to Retrograde or do I need to read it off manually

[noble ivy]

don't worry, there's an import button

[lapis cloak]

Where is it located?

[cobalt zealot]

goddamnit why does Suldan have so much cool shit

[noble ivy]

bottom right of the options

[lapis cloak]

Thank you!

[balmy obsidian]

It's a very very large supplement

Bound to have cool stuff for you somewhere

[cobalt zealot]

It's just because Bunzi said I can't use it and I keep finding stuff which is like. Cool and not obviously broken.

[west phoenix]

L

[cobalt zealot]

Making do with the other bits and pieces

[noble ivy]

I'll be a bnnuy's advocate here and say this

I feel like Lancer official mechs are so great that you don't need to a smorgasbord of homebrew like in 5e

[west phoenix]

me when the game doesn't give me literally everything i could ever want 😔

yeah i really just run core rulebook stuff

some stuff from legionnaire and a supplement for wallflower really being it for my game

[balmy obsidian]

I am usually the number one third party hater

But i come from pathfinder rather than 5e

[west phoenix]

i usually am, but lancer has a lot of good third party stuff. it's just harder for me personally

[noble ivy]

but what about the sunzi...

[west phoenix]

huh???

the sunzi is base game???

what are you implying i'm confused

[noble ivy]

Girl, Its a long rim original

[west phoenix]

read

[balmy obsidian]

It's not core but it is first party

[noble ivy]

ah...

[west phoenix]

okay fair, i meant first party

[balmy obsidian]

There is a difference

[west phoenix]

shut up

https://tenor.com/view/baba-bababooey-torture-cat-pussy-gif-27278536

[cobalt zealot]

I think core lacks a lot of LL0 options

And crisis catalogue helps a ton with that

[west phoenix]

well the only time LL0 weapons have been added they've been kind of busted lmao

[noble ivy]

Tempest charge blade my belothed

[west phoenix]

i am a dustgrave hater

the only thing i'd really like is a heavy CQB weapon at LL0, i'm confident you could balance it by not giving it threat kind of how the thermal pistol is

[lime widget]

How does golden flame do when shoving into an existing campaign

[west phoenix]

hhmm... probably not great imo

i think it works best when there's some kind of connection to calliope, if everyone just kind of showed up it may not carry that same weight

[clever cloud]

yeaa, igf is very "defending my home" vibes

putting people from outside the system may fall a little flat

[balmy obsidian]

to be fair calliope doesn't have to be your home when you start the campaign

it just usually becomes it after a while

(partly because you're stuck here)

[cobalt zealot]

Honestly Crisis Catalogue does a fantastic job of adding options while not overshadowing existing stuff

[thorn hinge]

G'mornin Calliope

[balmy obsidian]

Good evening Ada

[thorn hinge]

wait

hol up

[balmy obsidian]

🆙

[thorn hinge]

Sera. Which NHPs aren't kissable. Which ones, Sera.

[worthy root]

I have a irrational grudge against CCC solely due to the Heavy Slug Shotgun. Because that thing has a the longest Range of any "CQB" weapon in the game, besides that Atlas's Kraul rifle, and I think it's over statted.

Because they took a Heavy Charge Blade, and gave it range 7 and Reliable 2 on top of that. And when I brought up my concerns, I was told that "Maybe the Heavy Charge Blade isnt't worth a Heavy Mount"

[noble ivy]

Good afternoon, rise and grind In Golden Gamers

[west phoenix]

"isn't worth a heavy mount????" like one of the best heavy melees in the game???

[balmy obsidian]

In my most controversial take yet, (chapter... 3? 5? idunno, act 1) ||Feather||

[noble ivy]

that is by far your most cowardly take yet

[balmy obsidian]

[cobalt zealot]

Range 7 is weird but other than that I don't think it's problematic compared to any of the other Heavy weapons

Like

[thorn hinge]

pfft she's straight up on my "What's your worst Hear Me Out" list

[balmy obsidian]

Come get me you won't

[cobalt zealot]

Compare to the HMG.

It has an entire 1d6 less damage for the same rangeish, AP, and reliable 2.

It's halfway to an upsized AR.

[balmy obsidian]

As in "if that's your worst hear me out you're a coward" or "the most explaining you have to do for a hear me out"

[west phoenix]

well the HMG should not exist

[cobalt zealot]

It shouldn't no

[west phoenix]

i think the HMG and CPR are actually so fucking stupid lol

[cobalt zealot]

CPR is fine without Accurate

Like, it just needs to not be Accurate and it's fine

[worthy root]

HMG is fine, free accuracy like Autostab and Vangaurd 1 shouldn't exist

[west phoenix]

well yeah, but it has accurate

[cobalt zealot]

the HMG is stupid because it has very easy ways to mitigate its downsides

[west phoenix]

i think inaccurate is not a valid downside for such a powerful weapon

[cobalt zealot]

And should probably be a 2d6+3

[west phoenix]

give it ordnance or something lmao

[thorn hinge]

The later

[balmy obsidian]

🤨

[noble ivy]

Ada, i saw that

[balmy obsidian]

What was that second part

[thorn hinge]

No you didn't.

[noble ivy]

didn't see what?

[thorn hinge]

An unmarked spoiler

[cobalt zealot]

It would be alright if autostab didn't exist

But it does

And as a result it's just.

[thorn hinge]

ch3 ||I would also put the Crone on that list||

[cobalt zealot]

Uh.

[thorn hinge]

If the remix game picks back up I'm gonna flirt a little next time

[balmy obsidian]

Ok but we were talking about nhps weren't we

unless I'm about to learn something very funny

[west phoenix]

hot single NHPs flirting in your area???

[noble ivy]

[CH3] ||I think Ada is saying that old ladies aren't human...||

[balmy obsidian]

||Rude to Meow||

[thorn hinge]

WHERE

[noble ivy]

||you are the same age||

[balmy obsidian]

I know

I will stab myself with the joke katana if there happens to be someone behind me for a laugh

[noble ivy]

having fun throwing 's from your glass house?

[balmy obsidian]

I LOVE PROJECTILE MINEROLOGY

[west phoenix]

... archie? is she hot???

she's definitely an NHP and a flirt lmao

[balmy obsidian]

I have a hot single NHP in my mech but he's a little shithead and will turn down any attempt at dating

[west phoenix]

he's living our dream

[balmy obsidian]

which one

[west phoenix]

having a hot single NHP in your mech

[clever cloud]

hot single nhp in your mech that rejects all of your advances but is still too hot to ignore

[balmy obsidian]

I mean

Archie has one

[west phoenix]

h-hot....

[west phoenix]

she does???

[balmy obsidian]

Yeah herself

[west phoenix]

not counting herself

[balmy obsidian]

[west phoenix]

FUCK YOU

[balmy obsidian]

Too late

Too quick on the draw

[noble ivy]

we'll start archie and serenity thirst posting once Bunzi runs out of Charlotte art

[clever cloud]

is something wrong with me because this is like the most obvious hear me out to me. who wouldnt?!?!?!

[balmy obsidian]

Me

[west phoenix]

i need art!!!

[clever cloud]

I will

[thorn hinge]

THANK you

[noble ivy]

SPEAK YOUR TRUTH, MY SISTER

[west phoenix]

if i could i would serenity thirst post for her one fan, juli

[balmy obsidian]

She's nice but really not my type

[west phoenix]

i don't think you have a type leo

[balmy obsidian]

I do

You just don't know what it is

And most likely neither do i

[clever cloud]

you know who else is easily in my hear me outs?!?

[last leaf]

cant have healing without evil. Therefore hotness is still derivative of evil.

[thorn hinge]

(not done yet mis-send)

[balmy obsidian]

No I have playd good natured healers before

[noble ivy]

sorry, I think you lost me here...

[balmy obsidian]

They are not all sadistic bastards I swear

[last leaf]

what are you healing if there's no evil in the world???

[thorn hinge]

I dont' share it, but I can see it and respect it

[clever cloud]

there are levels beyond mere mortals

[balmy obsidian]

Wounds

My tank

The DPS who are standing in the aoes

[west phoenix]

does this include the other form

[last leaf]

my brother in christ who do you think is causing the circles on the floor to appear

[balmy obsidian]

Programming

[noble ivy]

El! [BG3 act 1] ||SHE EATS BABIES!!! IF THAT'S NOT A DEAL BREAKER THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS||

[last leaf]

programmed by an evil god!

[balmy obsidian]

Now I'm interested.

[clever cloud]

Pobodies Nerfect

[livid mesa]

Resourcefulness

[last leaf]

her va work does a lot for her, I kinda see it ngl

[clever cloud]

we have clearly established that evil = hot

[west phoenix]

it's not every evil is hot

[cobalt zealot]

the cruel indifference of the world to the people that inhabit it

[balmy obsidian]

Not so clearly I think

[west phoenix]

evil is a hot trait but isn't the only factor

[last leaf]

cruelty! Ha, cruelty is evil!

[cobalt zealot]

is it cruelty if the perpetrator is not a being of any volition or will?

[clever cloud]

yes!

[cobalt zealot]

merely the mechanisms of nature?

[balmy obsidian]

And they run when the sun comes up

[clever cloud]

we personify and anthromorphize forces of nature all the time

[last leaf]

Yes. Source:

[noble ivy]

||inflicting greek myth level tragedies on people for shits and giggles is a step too far for my book...||

[thorn hinge]

So in the remix game, chapter 3 when we met ||Her...||

It played out in an interesting way. Because we were all either gms who read the book or, y'know, people what wrote the thing, Cruye had us || each play host the crone, in a way. When a PC asked a question, Cruye wrote the answer and DM'd it to another player who then became the crone and gave the answer to the PC. It was really cool! Each of us had a very different voice for her, and the shifting felt really appropriate. Naturally, because we know the rules, because Vex wrote the rules, we all agreed to go for the maximum possible clock count to get our questions. We burned through a few quickly, and then we had to start thinking hard about it. Finally the Something is Coming... clock stood at 11/12 and there wasn't anything left to ask. I came up with something, and checked to make sure nobody else had a question they'd rather put forth. ||

Uh. Shit. reference to ACT 3 SPOILER. NOT CH3, ACT 3: ||"You know what's really going on, and you know that we all know what's going on. We've all read it, and we know where this story ends. Let's cast the pretext aside. Are you... okay with that? Being brought in to these stories over and over again, with the same ultimate fate? She shrugged, and said that she just accepts it. It is what it is, and she is who she is. She's happy enough to play the part.||

Alt version of the above spoiler abstracted to avoid act 3 info, so JUST CH3 SPOILER VERSION: || I stopped using my Rose voice, and spoke plainly. I (Ada, not Rose) told her that we both understand what's going on beyond the scope of the world, and that I'd like to speak directly. I asked her if she was okay with what she has to go through as an RPG character. Knowing the story she's in, coming back for group after group. She said she accepts it, and takes the little joy of playing a part.||

[clever cloud]

fair

[thorn hinge]

Next time we meet I'm ||going to ask her if she's lonely||

[clever cloud]

but... the way she says "Petal"

[thorn hinge]

Now what are we up to while I tooka few minutes to write that? Grappling with the nature of the metaphysical concept of evil? I can't leave this channel for two second can I, not even to write a long message while I'm sitting IN THE CHANNEL.

[west phoenix]

you're getting nothing out of me, eleonor

[thorn hinge]

You're right

[balmy obsidian]

I played the game with french VA so I don't know what you're on about

[last leaf]

(in all seriousness, I'd argue that accusing the world of cruel indifference you are making a moral claim. Perhaps not a claim about any particular thing (your ontology may vary) but broadly that there is an injustice there going on)

[noble ivy]

Eleonor... there are so many better options for hot old ladies there

[balmy obsidian]

(just kidding there's no french VA)

[last leaf]

no no, she's cooking.

[balmy obsidian]

@thorn hinge

(sorry)

[thorn hinge]

;lsidafhgsdqafo;ilhg

[west phoenix]

are you calling ada old???

[balmy obsidian]

yes

[thorn hinge]

CONSTANTLY

[last leaf]

ancient

[west phoenix]

NO BULLY

[last leaf]

wisened

[west phoenix]

NOOOOOO

[noble ivy]

that's it, come here you little brat

[balmy obsidian]

Silver lining it does include hot this time

[last leaf]

(in all seriousness no but Ada does have witchy energy)

[balmy obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/smug-maki-gif-5343311312738326082

[thorn hinge]

Thank you

I literally wear a witch hat when leaving the house

Like. Every time.

[west phoenix]

you can be a witch without being old

there is a teenage witch

[last leaf]

the only reason I don't wear mine more often is because it's too large

[thorn hinge]

True! I've been a witch for most of my life at this point

[last leaf]

knew it

[balmy obsidian]

Witch hats are cool but my head overheats very fast

[noble ivy]

teach me your ways, wise and noble matriarch

[balmy obsidian]

I would explode

[last leaf]

im a big hat fan

[balmy obsidian]

A big hat fan would be nice for cooling...

Good idea Wren

[last leaf]

im full of them

[noble ivy]

full of hats?

[last leaf]

yes

[balmy obsidian]

In that we are opposites

[clever cloud]

my head is literally too big for 99% of hats

[balmy obsidian]

I am full of bad ideas and no hats

[balmy obsidian]

Ok but it doesn't fan the inside of the hat

[west phoenix]

thats crazy because i'm a big fan of wren

:3

[balmy obsidian]

so i would still overheat

[clever cloud]

i had to buy the largest 3XL bike helmet

[balmy obsidian]

holy shit you have a bike?

[last leaf]

oh yeah i haven't showed you guys the full art of my current pfp (it's actually one of my older pfps I've reverted to)

bird up folks

[noble ivy]

same here...
my head's been too powerful for every single hat or helmet i ever wore

[clever cloud]

a cargo ebike, so not for exercise

[balmy obsidian]

oh

First thing that came to my mind was biker Eleonor

[last leaf]

[west phoenix]

what does that mean

[last leaf]

[balmy obsidian]

emerald

do you never feel emerald, meow?

[clever cloud]

damn, we really :emerald: in this chat

[balmy obsidian]

(dr robotnik joke)

[clever cloud]

I miss my wife, sonic

[balmy obsidian]

YOU ARE GETTING

MARRIED

[last leaf]

(its actually meant to be a dnd emerald dragon although it is admittedly low resolution)

[clever cloud]

I MISS HER

[last leaf]

(make of that what you will)

[balmy obsidian]

ELEONOR PLEASE

[clever cloud]

IM LITERALLY IN OSLO WHILE SHES BACK HOME

[balmy obsidian]

Oh

-# oh

[west phoenix]

i want those lancers dead or you'rrrre scrap metal!

[balmy obsidian]

I thought you were traveling together

[last leaf]

[clever cloud]

she was in Alaska the last few weeks actually

so literally opposite sides of the planet

[balmy obsidian]

damn

did you make an earth sandwich

[clever cloud]

FUCK

[noble ivy]

behold! my tempingus charge blade!

[west phoenix]

WHY ARE YOU IN THE ABANDONED SPACE STATION

[balmy obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-shadow-the-hedgehog-eggman-robotnik-rouge-the-bat-gif-6207809479798299080

[clever cloud]

does it count if she was on a boat the whole time??

[thorn hinge]

Read Terry Pratchett, then read some social psychology texts, then physics books. If you must read books about witchcraft, I suggest Scott Cunningham's work. In general: Remain kind but inscrutable. Live sincerely. Punch fascists.

[balmy obsidian]

I tried reading terry pratchett

[last leaf]

Why are YOU in the abandoned space station him?

[balmy obsidian]

I got thrown out of his house so instead I tried reading his books

[clever cloud]

huh?!?!?!

[west phoenix]

were you* and only you know that information

but probably like, war crimes if i had to guess

[balmy obsidian]

I tried reading terry pratchett but they threw me out of his house

[thorn hinge]

I was looking through my pictures to find a good one of the hat, but tbh none of them compare to the witchy energy of the time I punched a nazi submarine

[balmy obsidian]

So I tried reading his books instead-

[last leaf]

I personally suggest buying some incense too if that's your kinda thing but also in general I'm pro incense.

[clever cloud]

WHY? WHERE? HOW???

I dont care if it's a play on words

I demand justice

[thorn hinge]

I prefer to make my own, the glues in most incense sticks really bother my partner and I get more control over the scents

[balmy obsidian]

1. I was told to read terry pratchet and I decided sure it's a good day to cultivate myself
2. In his house
3. eyes???

[west phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/to-the-depths-with-you-cat-depths-to-the-depths-gif-7441909642438936732

[noble ivy]

1: i bought a few books and I'll read them once i have time
2: way ahead of you on Social psych texts
3: my brain dosn't have enough wrinkles for the advance math of physics...
4: will read those the first chance i get
5 and 6: already on it

[last leaf]

ooh thats a smart idea.

[clever cloud]

re 3: PBS spacetime is very fun and approachable

[balmy obsidian]

being a witch is nice and all but I wanna be a kineticist

[last leaf]

Have you ever double hatted?

(Fun fact in this pic my friend is facing forwards towards the camera)

[balmy obsidian]

Double hatted up?

On a saturday?

[noble ivy]

on a thursday afternoon?

[last leaf]

okay fun fact, that pic was on a saturday night

[thorn hinge]

Cunningham's incense, Oils and Brews is a fantastic place for learning about making incense and also a way of approaching it with magical intent. Though I'd also warn that magic is and always should be a personal practice so while you can take inspiration from what others do, it should always be your thing, not doing it because someone told you to do it that way.

[west phoenix]

does this improve the efficacy of the spells

[last leaf]

wouldn't know, there's too many spellcasters near where I live that I never bothered to learn.

[balmy obsidian]

Cunningham, or as I like to call it, clever bacon

[thorn hinge]

I can put "punched a U-boat" on my resume.

[noble ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/izuku-midoriya-smash-robot-destroy-gif-25269478

[last leaf]

one time I showed my friend the high street on google streetview and it ended up with him on the floor laughing.

[shell bison]

Me, casually throwing flashbangs into the chat

[balmy obsidian]

She really doesn't seem old to me

[shell bison]

with how people judge anyone over 21

and you know travel time

[west phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-cat-funny-cat-flashbang-flashbang-gif-8479999063609699416

[balmy obsidian]

objective time in lancer is a fool's errand

[west phoenix]

me when bnuuy

[west phoenix]

she at the very least is a milf

she literally has a child

[noble ivy]

A mother I would like to…

[balmy obsidian]

well yeah but that doesn't automatically make someone old

[cobalt zealot]

FUCK YEAH WE DO

how old is she actually

[west phoenix]

love 🩵

[balmy obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/water-wheel-mill-gif-19806697

[west phoenix]

HAHA

[shell bison]

33

[west phoenix]

thank you

[shell bison]

no wait

checks notes

32

[west phoenix]

ah damn well 33 was my limit

[balmy obsidian]

32 is old you're right i'm sorry

anyone 30 or over is old, alas

[clever cloud]

leo are you 15 or something?

[balmy obsidian]

27

[west phoenix]

bunzi are you actually 32 as well irl or is that overextending

[clever cloud]

get a grip son

[balmy obsidian]

on what

[noble ivy]

pack your bags, girls
she's past her expiration date
-# extremely /j

[west phoenix]

because i have another player who is 32 who if i described physically it would sound like you

[shell bison]

no I'm 31

[cobalt zealot]

heavy breathing

[clever cloud]

On This Di- * the snipers got me *

[balmy obsidian]

sure

[west phoenix]

me saying i had a dilf in my group the other day and bunzi thought i was talking about him

[shell bison]

32, has an adopted child, in her prime, thriving, wants to make honey for the gate

[west phoenix]

honey bunny

[balmy obsidian]

dinner time i'm gonna miss banter

[west phoenix]

starve

[balmy obsidian]

why do you hate me

is it because of the puns because if so i don't apologize

[noble ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/утюг-cat-est-utug-gif-15997868462494236323

[shell bison]

consumption

[west phoenix]

damn that car has unapparelled motor function

[cobalt zealot]

YOU SPRAY ME BUT YOU CANNOT STOP ME—

[west phoenix]

positively soaked

[cobalt zealot]

Did you commission this from vanripper

[shell bison]

No actually, someone that imitates their style and does quite well .

[cobalt zealot]

Yeah they do! It's exceptionally similar!

They did great work

[steady adder]

...is that why you're thinking of hitting Quil with the for an art piece?

[balmy obsidian]

Funnily enough no it's entirely unrelated

Just my brain telling me "You know Quil would probably look great as a girl"

Which to be fair he already looks great and it's an easily made translation

[noble ivy]

-# Leo’s graduating from forcefemed to forcefemer?

[balmy obsidian]

I am deviating the attacks

[clever cloud]

every accusation is a confession

[balmy obsidian]

Sorry did I accuse anyone of something?

[west phoenix]

he could also look great as a guy. how about you admit that first

[balmy obsidian]

I just did??

[worthy root]

That's Sam and Atlanta's Job, not yours.

[west phoenix]

i cannot read, carry on

[balmy obsidian]

Can they deflect tech attacks

Because people keep trying to hack my gender

[west phoenix]

there's no iceout drone to save you

[worthy root]

checks.

[balmy obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/knight-xbox-gaming-elder-scrolls-games-gif-27629886

[worthy root]

Yes, Yes they can.

[balmy obsidian]

Oh neat

[worthy root]

Tach loop can reflect tech attacks.

[balmy obsidian]

Very funny

[noble ivy]

You keep telling me to keep up the bit!

[balmy obsidian]

Yes

[west phoenix]

its a challenge

and i never lose

[balmy obsidian]

Exactly

NEVER lose

[noble ivy]

-# I’ve broken stronger shells then yours

[balmy obsidian]

No you haven't

[noble ivy]

-# ah fuck, he called my bluff

[west phoenix]

everyone bar one trans girl turned out to be an egg that i cracked

that's... 4?

[balmy obsidian]

Go fish

[noble ivy]

Only 2 days left until June is over
I’m running out of time…

[balmy obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/bring-it-on-kuzco-lama-gif-16822682

[noble ivy]

Leo… don’t make me throw the book at you

[balmy obsidian]

we have previously established that I don't know how to read

no actually you know what do it

fucking do it

throw me the best yuri handbook you can i will read it

[cobalt zealot]

Break his skull

hardback copy

[balmy obsidian]

[noble ivy]

-# on second thought… it might be a little too serious for this bit since I was sobbing when I first read it right after my egg broke…

[balmy obsidian]

Well surely i should be fine if you cried after your egg broke

Since mine won't break meaning i will not cry

[steady adder]

#lancer-general message

[balmy obsidian]

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EGGS BREAKING AND ALSO WHY ARE YOU SPYING ON ME

[shell bison]

is crying egg behavior now?

[steady adder]

just challenging that 'i will not cry' statement, leo

[balmy obsidian]

It is perfectly sound logic

If, in the context of Juli's book, crying happens after the egg breaks then I will not cry

[hearty whale]

One, please do not give Quil more of an identity crisis
Two, I'm making his sister a twin now just to mess with Invader's head in Act 2

[balmy obsidian]

Guess I'm going to try to draw Quil's sister then

[west phoenix]

invader smooching real???

[balmy obsidian]

Invader is not going to smooch longshot's sister

[west phoenix]

... why not

[balmy obsidian]

why would he

[cobalt zealot]

We did our session 0 for OSR!

now just need to do it for igf

[shell bison]

Oh that reminds me

[balmy obsidian]

Snicker you scare me

[shell bison]

meanwhile I'm just making char memes

[cobalt zealot]

Reminds you of what

[shell bison]

need to find the 3rd/4th players

[cobalt zealot]

oh!

[clever cloud]

IGF act 2

[cobalt zealot]

out of curiosity, do you have anyone specific in mind?

[shell bison]

so far not yet, I might have someone but not sure if they have that night available

[silver pumice]

i repeat

[balmy obsidian]

If I speak I will be CRUCIFIED

[thorn hinge]

say it

[balmy obsidian]

You should probably not kiss ||Feather||

[thorn hinge]

Wrong.

It's okay to be wrong.

Can you name anybody in the setting that needs a kiss more?

[balmy obsidian]

I wouldn't be able to name anyone who needs a kiss to begin with

[thorn hinge]

You know what? Fair enough.

[clever cloud]

:flag_aroace:

[thorn hinge]

AND

on further consideration I'm retracting my complaint

You're NOT wrong.

You probably should not kiss ||Feather||

I'm still gonna do it tho

[clever cloud]

maaaaaan..

[balmy obsidian]

See that's entirely fair

I think

[west phoenix]

idk who it is but i'd kiss em

[balmy obsidian]

You'll find out

Don't worry

And then you can say "Yeah no do not kiss, bad idea"

[hearty whale]

How bad could it really be?

Very.
But I'm curious just how bad it could get

[clever cloud]

She could [redacted] or even [redacted] you! Imagine you lean in for a kiss and she [very extremely redacted]

[balmy obsidian]

Invader is rather curious about her

But very much not in the "i want to smooch" way

Rather there is something very wrong with this person and i want to know why

[noble ivy]

I would smooch ||FEATHER|| but not in a romantic way
More so a ||smooch on the forehead while telling her I’m sorry for all that’s happened to her and promising her that it will get better…||

[balmy obsidian]

That i can get behind

[west phoenix]

this only encourages me more

wait is it ||feather?||

[noble ivy]

:CH_catnod:

[west phoenix]

HAHA

yeah infinite smooches

[noble ivy]

Unlimited smooch works

[west phoenix]

||feather (fragment) is in archie's systems anyways she's inside of her 😳 ||

[noble ivy]

||Pagernent Archie…||

Girl… you skipped smooching and went straight to ||BEARING HER CHILD!!?!||

[west phoenix]

||ii guess she liked what she saw idk||

[balmy obsidian]

Meow no

[noble ivy]

Forgot to spoiler mark that, my friend

[cobalt zealot]

The concerned Charlotte has been deployed so I can only imagine something horny has been spoken

[silver pumice]

wrong

[silver pumice]

this is true

[silver pumice]

happened to my friend marthe callifrastus

[cobalt zealot]

I'm still stuck on the mech chassis design lmfao

I've had two people say white, red, and blue each

[silver pumice]

roll a 1d3 on it and see if you agree/disagree

[cobalt zealot]

I'm not sure I like white even though my husband said that one. He pointed out that it has minimal clutter but I have almost the exact opposite opinion in that it doesn't have enough greebles.

[noble ivy]

I’m glad to have the approval of IGF’s resident code-kisser

[tight pier]

Ah fuck

[thorn hinge]

I would also do this! But like. It doesn't have to stop there if she doesn't want it to

[west phoenix]

ADA BASED TAKE

[noble ivy]

Every take Ada has is based

[west phoenix]

this one is exceptionally based

[noble ivy]

Healing yuri will save calliope in act 3 confirmed

[shell bison]

This is why I have to be a team lead/parental role

[west phoenix]

team milf

[noble ivy]

-# you say that like charlotte isn’t being healed via yuri…

[tight pier]

Yeah pretty much

[west phoenix]

gottem

[shell bison]

fuck even Athena got me

[west phoenix]

known yuri enjoyer 🫵

[shell bison]

I was going to say she's being healed by a loving partner and self acceptance as her role of a healer for Calliope.

Plus also being proud of her daughter doing her dream of becoming a doctor ;v;

[thorn hinge]

Awwww

[shell bison]

Oh Ada, story time later. I want to share what happened in the game I ran today :D

Juli if you are interested I can talk in a pnet vc

[noble ivy]

As much as I would love to I can’t right now…
I’m Busy with the last few things before I’m finally done with my move…

[shell bison]

Oh gosh, focus on that!

[noble ivy]

[west phoenix]

good luck yuri lady

[noble ivy]

Pot calling the kettle “yuri lady”

[west phoenix]

a lot of pots and kettles in this chat

[thorn hinge]

good luck yuri ladies

and yuri boys and yuri theybes

[cobalt zealot]

It's funny because I have raging lesbian moments but don't really get the draw of yuri

[shell bison]

Really, the heavy breathing hearing Charlotte's age didn't show it

[noble ivy]

Dragon, the ‘s exponentially increased the second you joined this thread…

[west phoenix]

the brick market suddenly spiked

[noble ivy]

What do you mean you don’t get yuri?

[west phoenix]

yuri is the world around us. yuri is the wind. yuri is the longing for something more. yuri just is. without yuri, there is nothing in this cold world. it is the warmth of the sun, the essence of life

[cobalt zealot]

I dunno like... The whole yearning stuff I suppose?

I think I should sleep

[cobalt zealot]

I'm gay and straight, I can't be stopped

[west phoenix]

i'm whatever lands me a baddie

[noble ivy]

You got a husband! You’re past the yearning phase so that means more for us /j

[thorn hinge]

Getting married doesn't have to mean the yearning is over. For your partner, or for others. :3

[west phoenix]

yearn for my yearning

eerr that sounds weird

[lapis cloak]

Question regarding DMing a specific encounter in "In Golden Flame" (Mission 2 Spoilers)

||So I'm using the premade map for "Send in the Clowns". And I dont see any enemy deployment zones. Where am I supposed to put the enemies? I also see that theres a "Squad" in the combat, but it doesn't say what the Squad is compared to every other unit being dressed up as a fantasy monster.||

||Actually I'm seeing on a LOT of the premade maps I dont see enemy deployment zones, so I've got no clue where to put the enemies||

[noble ivy]

||I think the squad is just random Icebreaker private security called in for backup||

[shell bison]

||The Squad is mainly a group of mercs hired by the cult and by extension Evelina Bondarchuck so they can just be non fantasy coded mercs. And their placement can be wherever you feel is best. Personal recommend?

Place the larger gut in front of the bridge as a block for the players and the other enemies around certain spots to be enemies to push against.||

[lapis cloak]

||Ohh, alright alright. Sounds good!||

[shell bison]

Yeye, may I ask what number of players and which map you are using?

[lapis cloak]

4 players (May potentially find a 5th) Here is the map (Spoilered)

[thorn hinge]

For that map you can probably deploy your initial forces however you see fit and it'll work out. A lot of your units will be held in reserve anyway. (ch2)||You can also adjust based on the narrative. If your players are being deliberately sneaky, spread the forces out as if they're caught on patrol. If not, maybe deploy on the wall and bridges, so they're in defendable positions. ||

[lapis cloak]

Ohh alright! That is very good to know

[pliant ibex]

Also just so you're aware, there's another thread in #gm-corner where you can talk GM things without spoiling (and, corollary, it is a completely spoiler-free zone, including for the draft copy of act 2). This should work as the link: https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/909574961931362365

[west phoenix]

yeah like half of us here are silly billys who don't gm. not that i mind you asking, just that some of us aren't very helpful lol

[pliant ibex]

also for your reference, ||the four paths on top and bottom have enemy ingress zones, for the reinforcements at least||

[worthy root]

Remeber that for EXTRACTION sitreps, you start with no enemy forces deployed, and can deploy up to 2 at the start of the round.

[lapis cloak]

Ohhhh okok

[lapis cloak]

Ah okok, thank you!

[shell bison]

Also don't forget the ||Friendly NPC|| in that fight!

[balmy obsidian]

My biggest disappointment in (ch2) ||Send in the clowns in that you can't slide on the rollercoaster for extra movement ||

[balmy obsidian]

You may say and think what you want, my opinion remains the same : It's a bad idea

Then again considering the character I'm playing and the group we're in, I might be biased

[silver pumice]

not enough yuri

the lesbian needs to step up their game

[balmy obsidian]

the sole lesbian of the group is too busy being a murder machine

[cobalt zealot]

Murder lesbians...

[thorn hinge]

Now, I was saying that I personally would absolutely kiss her. But my character? ||Would also kiss her.||

[cobalt zealot]

I want to put her in a jar and study her

[clever cloud]

no jars pls

[thorn hinge]

No!

She's had enough of that >:|

[cobalt zealot]

Yes jars

I will examine her like a little beastie

[clever cloud]

bad

[cobalt zealot]

My curiosity must be sated

I must learn about this specimen

Many experiments...

Ethical of course

[clever cloud]

literally impossible

[cobalt zealot]

I do good responsible science

[thorn hinge]

(ch2) ||Rosé was a cult spy up until the job on the icebreaker when the danger to the station and it's inhabitants posed by the laser weighed too much on her and she changed sides. As of the end of ch3 she still believes in the One and still believes Feather is the One, but she "doesn't believe in the cult" anymore. If that game picks back up? Well, first things she's going to do is kiss Siren, but I am willing to bet that she'll eventually try to change feather by showing her love||

Please do not do experiments on the traumatized victim of science!

[cobalt zealot]

They're good experiments Ada!

[thorn hinge]

You do not do good experiments by putting people in jars!

Good experiments require informed consent. Which. If you get that from her then yes, okay.

[balmy obsidian]

Jars

[cobalt zealot]

The jar is furnished with recreational equipment!

[cobalt zealot]

-# idek who we're talking about here i just thought it would be funny

[thorn hinge]

-# yeyeye

[tame tide]

Nyctomancer, BTW IGF has a GM only/spoiler thread if you want to ask questions like how to setup the game and such

Its not as active as this one but it'll mean you can have more solid advice from GMs and you dont need to spoiler text

@lapis cloak

[balmy obsidian]

It's here https://discordapp.com/channels/426286410496999425/909574961931362365

(I think it's this one anyway?)

[tame tide]

I forgot to tag it 💀

Yeah thats right, thanks leo

[balmy obsidian]

[clever cloud]

you know.. this is the first time i understand the shape of that emoji

ive been thinking forever it just looks like a gerrymandered voting district

[balmy obsidian]

[clever cloud]

oh my god it's Ohio senate district 24!

[balmy obsidian]

on the one hand this is horrific

on the other hand i find it hilarious in its absurdity

[tame tide]

Ohio emoji

[cobalt zealot]

ohio emoji

[tame tide]

Also, please dont refer to them as "the premade maps", the maps I made are unofficial. Yes they've been endorsed but they weren't commissioned by Vex. I did them because I wanted to. Others have made maps and I dont want mine to be reduced to the only maps for IGF

[cobalt zealot]

i'd be her squire

[cobalt zealot]

This is so like them

I love it

[fallen geyser]

*Them

Oh and here's one I made just now

[tame tide]

Act 1 only players in shambles rn

"I do not know who you are, all I know is that ur gay"

[balmy obsidian]

hey @west phoenix check this

[silver pumice]

HELL YEAH THESE

alternative text for this i made for lynk (previously it was just FUCK YOUR BINARY)

[fallen geyser]

You're telling me a nonbinary coded this lynx

[silver pumice]

the camera pans to the fourth wall. an angel(?) is hunched over a screen. it looks at the camera with its many eyes. it speaks: yeag

[west phoenix]

I can fix her

I also made one of these a bit ago

[fallen geyser]

Aurizzm? Aunic Rizz.

[west phoenix]

NOOOOO

[balmy obsidian]

Is that not what that meant?

[west phoenix]

Does it really not read well

[balmy obsidian]

I don't have the slightest idea what else it could be

[last leaf]

autism

[balmy obsidian]

no surely that couldn't be it

[shell bison]

Aunic plant, I knew it

[west phoenix]

Hammers to all of you

[balmy obsidian]

ow

[cobalt zealot]

I need to get Celaeno commed...

[shell bison]

OH, here's another from one of my players

[cobalt zealot]

...Should I get an autogun

[shell bison]

Autogun is really good, just mind the sp cost

[cobalt zealot]

oh, actually, speaking of SP
do you run with in-built EVA or "put aside 1sp for the kit"?

[shell bison]

built in eva

but if you want it to be of any mechanical benefit outside of zero G just make sure to put on a jump jet or flight system

[cobalt zealot]

[shell bison]

I do love how IGF does mention space battle rules are a thing but you can just ignore it with a very minor tweak since it becomes an SP tax

[cobalt zealot]

When 90% of your combat is in space it makes sense to at least invert the rules

If not just say "nah your mech just does it"

[west phoenix]

If only.... I need my system and/or talent points...

I'm starving out here the sunzi is too expensive

[cobalt zealot]

Hmm... Is there really like... Much use to Centimane if you've only got one pair of light nexi?

[west phoenix]

You could have ended it after "much use to centimane"

[cobalt zealot]

I know you hate centimane :P

[west phoenix]

It does the same thing regardless of mount, so light is just as realistic as any other mount

In fact light has gunslinger, one of the few ways to give a nexus an accuracy

[cobalt zealot]

Mmmh

Hecatoncheires has the mild misfortune of not having two flex mounts

[west phoenix]

Waa

[cobalt zealot]

?

I have been considering a Smart Gun

Use it, two light nexus units, and a heavy nexus

[west phoenix]

also keep in mind you won't start at LL2. you have time to figure things out and will probably change your mind

[cobalt zealot]

I'm not picking up Heca until LL4 probably!

[west phoenix]

no need to worry about it, just tinker with it in comp/con

i'm sitting on like 15 builds that just seem like fun

[shell bison]

I generally think that building so deep into a campaign setting is probably a bit counter intuitive given that you are going to be having arcs that last potentially weeks to a month in your games. So the best to do take it one LL at a time since you won't be LL4 until the last ch of IGF act 1

[west phoenix]

especially if your gm lets you respec freely

i never expected the archie iconoclast tank arc, that's something that just happened through character development :p

nor the sunzi with serenity, that was purely a narrative decision

[balmy obsidian]

I think it's fun to plan ahead

While accepting that your build will change a lot on the way, and that's alright

I wasn't planning on taking blackthumb. Or a second nhp. Or an actual flight system. Or Ace. Or ESU. Or Comet. And yet here we are.

[cobalt zealot]

I do wanna pick up a Heca though

Because it's stylish

And a natural evolution on Celaeno's drone controller

[west phoenix]

i plan ahead too hard where i make like 3 variations of a possible build 😅

idk if i want to do napoleon sunzi, lich sunzi, or emperor sunzi yet

i build the appearance of my mech around the idea of napoleon sunzi, but we already have a big sal who may want to take napoleon anyways

[balmy obsidian]

I'm going full on visual novel for next level up

[west phoenix]

what does that even mean

[prime terrace]

god now I wish I had a digital piece of Finley so i can put him in front of the Ace flag with "Fuck No" written on it

[west phoenix]

holy shit is that dr gregory house

[balmy obsidian]

it means i'm gonna go up to other characters, ask them questions, and depending on what they answer i'll either go Ace 2, Rivarly 1 or Iconoclast 1

[prime terrace]

Meow we need you in surgery to cure the patient

[west phoenix]

when you're a rival with the ace iconoclast

[prime terrace]

He needs Meow bites to live

Go bite him.

[west phoenix]

finally a job for me

https://tenor.com/view/naotoshi-shida-cat-gif-25374780

[balmy obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/charge-smash-cat-bite-charge-smash-cat-bite-gif-15342273195042263536

[west phoenix]

its funny that my talents are exactly the same between all of these builds, it's just the licenses

[balmy obsidian]

what talents

[west phoenix]

the gameplan is either become a wall with napoleon and with the tons of limited systems this build has, unhinge chronology with diddymos and unraveler since field analyst will make it harder for them to be hit so haste won't disappear as easily, or shahnameh and ayah of the syzygy because of the support aspect and ayah can do damage off of my turn so i can build more field analyst dice

i think the narrative aspect of the napoleon is the coolest though. making an amalgamation of this blink engine to use every facet of blinkspace

[balmy obsidian]

i might pick up emperor 1 at some point just because it would be funny with eject power core

[west phoenix]

hah it would. i love just passively doing damage to enemies for very little cost

iconoclast enjoyer :joyous:

[noble ivy]

Iconoclast aka the power of “friendship”

[west phoenix]

(we hate each other)

[balmy obsidian]

why is friendship in quotes

ah

skill issue

[clever cloud]

can you imagine an LL0 nhp pilot that just starts the game with technophile and iconoclast

a fucking clown car

you start the game controlling half the PC characters

[noble ivy]

I remember seeing 11dragonkid review a build like that and his notes were, and I quote, “what in the goddamn…”

[balmy obsidian]

imagine getting an exotic nhp by the end of mission 1

respec your third clearly unwanted talent into technophile, bam, you're good to go

[clever cloud]

only nhps build

[balmy obsidian]

the power of friendship

[clever cloud]

you spec into Kidd just to have the system points to carry tons of nhps

[noble ivy]

Black thumb talent but it’s just someone you hired to hangout in the cockpit until shit gets broken

[clever cloud]

a cackle of weirdos

[balmy obsidian]

i thought it was a gaggle

[last leaf]

I thought it was a third-party-forum thread of weirdos

[west phoenix]

you need the horus core bonus tho

the lesson of shaping

[last leaf]

kidd loves to have many nhp kids

[west phoenix]

so you could have an nhp pilot with technophile and iconoclast, but any more NHPs than that need to wait until LL3

(i have done the math i promise)

[balmy obsidian]

fairly sure nhp pilots counting as an nhp for the ai limit is a houserule

but i might be wrong

[clever cloud]

technophile 3 doesn't count for your cap

so at LL1 you can spec into tech 3 and stuff a compcon in there

[west phoenix]

wha- you can only have one NHP system at a time. technophile 1-2 count as that, no?

so you get: NHP pilot (doesn't count), iconoclast NHP (doesn't count), and technophile 1-2 NHP (is the only one that counts)

[clever cloud]

yep

and then LL1 you respec into icon 1 + tech 3

[balmy obsidian]

ya

[clever cloud]

and add a compcon or exotic

[west phoenix]

if you agree with me why tf did you say t his

[balmy obsidian]

technophile 3

I am assuming technophile 3

i must always max out technophile

[west phoenix]

i would like to, especially for the +1 damage, but it doesn't seen realistic