#In Golden Flame
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(and it doesn't help that the two mechs it is most often compared to directly, everest and chomo, are both some of the best mechs in the game)
personally I think sagmartha is simultaneously a bit underrated and also a little undertuned but only in the range of needing +2 hp or another piece of armour, not wildly bad or anything.
Also, size 2, while having it's downsides, is also really good at ll0-1. A lot of things that can bully Everest or Chomolungma can't bully a Sagamartha.
Looking at you Cataphract
very true.
yeah, the problem is just giving it +2 hp at 1 armor can get a bit overpowered
especially when you give it points in Hull and personalizations
oh for sure. I suppose it just feels to me like they gave the sagmartha 1 armour and then later balanced that by lowering its health by 2 compared to the everest. Which feels like kind of the worst way to balance a durability increase? I don't have any evidence that's what they did but that's the vibes the mech gives me. It all has the impression that the devs thought it was tankier than it actually is.
I'd rather dock a point of heatcap or edef or whatever, in exchange for a mech that's a bit physically tankier and hence plays more into the advertised role, if you get me.
Yeah I get that but I feel like that hits the core concept of the starter mech a bit harder. The idea is they're supposed to be generalists, just really good generalists
I played Sagamartha and honestly my main complaint wasn't with any of its stats, it was that it was often hard to get around at size 2, but I think that was more just the map design of the module I was playing
OSR?
I get what you're saying but I don't think that it being a bit tankier would impinge on its generalist credetials
sorry gtg
No worries, I get where you're coming from 🙂
Sagamartha core I think too, scales with PC count too
Yeah you definitely get more mileage for you money the bigger the team
Yee
Same can be said about Chomolungma honestly
Whereas Hyperspec is just always good
Sag is cool, but crashing the action economy on a whim is just cracked
Also, is that the real Gabriel Sparrow!?!??!?!?!?!?!?
Oh 100 percent. My build for Act 1 was "action economy crimes" and I stayed in the everest.
also, yes lol. I was the one who initially worked with vex to design Gabriel, based on my PC in @thorn hinge game
Sorry, am in Ada's game not Vex's.
Its early in the morning for me and my brain keeps transposing names and words
But yeah, on our team Gabriel fills a kinda operator roll, a tool for every situation and action economy crimes. All of act 1 was in Everest. I switched to Gilgamesh in Act 2.
Generalist -> Generalist
For me, of the 3 base mechs, I would say Sagamartha is my favorite, followed closely by Everest, but they're all good.
lol, yeah exactly.
Gilgamesh offered some nice bonuses for support and mitigating consequences of being a gremlin and it was worth losing the extra action per combat and the accuracy core power.
Our team has a dedicated hacker, a dedicated melee bruiser, and a dedicated mid close range shooter, and so I was like, we don't really have someone to fill those other roles so I'd do the guy who'd be the guy we need in various situation, cause that was very much Gabriel's whole vibe
Never regretted that decision, it's been a lot of fun.
Legionnaire battle rifle? 👉👈
I 100 percent would have if Gilgamesh had come out earlier, but I have an Andromeda Laser Rifle and have done some absolutely absurd things with it so far, so I decide to remain loay to it.
One fight I killed 3 people in a single turn. I fired it three times using asura and overcharging and crit twice
New build has Superthermal blade though, prototype weapon, and will have stub cannons at ll6
Heatgunner Gilgamesh
Gotta use that 10 heat cap for something lol
Nuc cav asura overcharge superthermal blade
for sure, sag and chomo cores were menaces in my first igf game and I'm sure they will be again in my second currently.
I have thought about that, lol
(I run six player games)
"Hey, what if I overload your reactor by giving you 12 heat in one turn?"
Oh dang, yeah that's gonna be good mileage for them
stub cannon mention ✨
(I'm not sure why but I love the stub cannon)
Stub cannon was made for Gilgamesh
true...
And mood, I love the stub cannon too lol
provided you've got a decent engi investment and you're not using it as your only weapon the limited cost really often won't matter (especially if you're running enough limited gear to hit the critical mass of limited charges) and it's an aux weapon that always highrolls and has knockback.
all doubly so on a gilg
It becomes a lot better with House Guard, which you should be taking if you're a Guardian chassis
You're not wrong
hmm I always feel House Guard is kinda low prio if the only thing you've got that works for it is guardian
gtg again tho
will expand my thoughts later
Yeah, with 3 levels of grease monkey, gilgamesh, and a few engineering points, the ammo restriction on the stub cannon start hurting a lot less
Integrated ammo feeds helps a lot
Tandin is right, Saggy is the party big loveable support
Being a size 2 means you have a large area to provide hard cover, and plenty of soft cover too. Plus, all the misses you make your opponent take by just standing near your friends lets you do chip energy damage and knock them down.
It's really good on a size 2 chassis.
The only thing the saggy really wants is +2 HP.
That's it.
yeah
HoG 3 is vague, it's uncertain if difficulty from guardian counts as "causing an attack to miss"
Difficulty does count there
If your difficulty contributes to making an attack miss, you get a valid reason to hit them
agreed.
Undefined
If a breacher with 2 innate difficulty misses, and you also have soft cover. Did the guardian cause that?
I thought the general consensus was that difficulty isn't counted for HoG 3 for this reason.
This is the kind of protective bubble you cast with HG2
Dark blue is hard cover, soft blue is soft cover
the inDefinite Guideto Shield of the Legion What is Shield of the Legion? Shield of the Legion is the third rank of the House Guard talent, introduced in the Field Guide to the Karrakin Trade Baronies supplement. Like the rest of its tree, it focuses on protecting your allies, specifically by pu...
Yeah, that is a mistake a lot of people make with House Guard. Level 1 does not increase the hard cover area.
don't get me wrong, HG2 is very good, I just don't see any particular synergy with mechs that innately have the guardian trait (although size 2 definitely helps) - if anything HG2 is more impactful on mechs that don't have guardian. I generally only really take it when I also have stuff which cares about HG1 or 3 a lot.
yeah, I love House Guard its just a lot of talents to justify if all I'm doing it for is guardian stuff.
To be fair, I feel house guard was more designed to help Frames like Tortuga and White Witch, rather than jive with guardian
yeah for sure
orchis is probably the mech it was literally designed for, if there was any particular mech it was made in mind for.
but more broadly, helping out a lot of vaguely tanky frames
Yeah I definitely think it was made for Orchis and WW both
yup yup
Since WW literally has a trait that reduced damage to adjacent
Wanna know something funny about that
like it vibes way to hard with it not to be intentional
and orchis literally has the flavour win
PErfect parry provides immunity to missed effects such as reliable to adjacent characters
Immunity != reduction so RAW Shield of the legion does NOT work on perfect parry
yes but I hope we can all agree that's lame and cringe.
Real
Yeah I'll admit I prefer rule of cool/something that makes sense going over nitty gritty technical rules, so long as it isn't broken.
doubly so with shield of the legion because its already such an ambiguous rules mess
I'm more willing to go with what I think was intended/makes sense rather than what the rules strictly read as, when the rules around this particular thing are already messy.
Remember getting into a debate in the rules board about how the ground doesn't count as an object for the purposes of Juggernaut.For me I am just like, even if it doesn't somehow by rules as written why would make the ground not count anyone make it not work way it makes no sense.
This was related to a theoretical build for a Dusk Wing where the whole idea was flying around punching people into the floor from above
hell juggernaut doesn't even care about objects, it cares about obstructions and the last trait literally defines terrain as a type of obstruction.
lol, trust me I don't want to rehash the debate here. The concenseus in the rules thread was that the ground doesn't count as an obstruction because it wasn't considered an object and doesn't have a "size"
I personally agree with you and would never run it the way they said in the rules thread but by the time I gave in on the idea of the ruling I had a frustration headache lol
there was just a lot of details that linked their logic and I don't remember most of it
Basically though, with how the consenseus ruling worked ont he interaction, if someone was standing on say, a size 1 piece of cover and you did it, it would work, if they were standing on the ground it wouldn't.
which to me make zero sense
I'm sure they had arguments based on definitions of obstruction elsewhere in the book, my view is just I don't see how juggernaut 3 can be read without it using obstruction to mean terrain - and I'd go with the definition used in juggernaut 3 for juggernaut 2 unless I saw very convincing reasons to use another definition.
again one of those "rules as writen vs rules as intended" moments
I mean, specific overrides general. "Effects that require adjacency" includes granting hard cover to adjacent allies, so you can grant hard cover to people 2 spaces away from you.
weirdly it doesn't and I can't remember why but this is well trodden ground iirc.
It doesn't work because Guardian doesn't grant a range.
Guardian says your allies can use you as X thing, and that thing says if you are ajacent to it you can use it as cover.
but since Guardian doesn't grant the cover itself, it doesn't apply the increase range bonus
Ah, then that makes it a lot less beneficial...
It's still really good for a lot of stuff but yeah, not as useful for guardian
greater guardian still works out to range 2, right?
or not?
I remember the generic guardian ruling but I can never remember that one.
Yes it does
The soft cover from great guardian directly gives soft cover to your allies, so it does work with the increased ajacency range
yee
it also increase ranges of Shield of Blades
I know that gabriel (player character) and gabriel (npc) are different characters but I do find it very satisfying to hear that he's a generalist build who does what is necessary for success, for what I'm doing with him in my remix game. [Act 2 dont read if you're in my game]||He's going to be trying to get the party to help negotiate between two polarised political factions and do mech missions that will allow them to overcome their mutual differences so they can run a functioning government and punch the bad guys in the dick.||
That's awesome. And yeah, NPC Gabriel is different depending on the needs of the game and GM but I am always okay with people borrowing ideas from PC Gabriel if they want 🙂
and yeah doing the "I have a tool for this" has lead me to find some powerful, but surprisingly underused strategies.
"I have a tool for this." pulls out an entire lancer party
Like, one of the most useful ones has been stabilizing to remove an allies conditions
oh damn nice.
Like, this almost never gets used because people feel it isn't effective use of the action economy. But redundant systems upgrade and stuff to let you use it more than once suddenly it's extremely useful.
ye
I've used it to great effect to get rid of stunned.
~~@west phoenix ~~
I play with a homebrew rule called the aid action
Which is QA, adjacent character. They may stabilise as a quick even if they can't perform that action (i.e. stunned)
-# <- made a homebrew core bonus that allows you to give your stabilize fully to other people
Like, even without RSU in my opinion it's worth it to use your whole turn to remove stunned action on someone cause it one of you still gets a turn, but now no one is super vulnerable to enemy attacks. With RSU it's straight up absurd
RSU -> Stabilise an ally is such a based maneuvre
it depends but honestly yeah for sure.
and I think people sleep on how RSU is much more than just a reload machine.
More than once I've had friends go "I need to go first so I can clear stunned" and I'm like "No, I'll go first, trust me I got you boo."
also it just feels significantly better for everyone involved
you're actively choosing to take on the action loss rather than having it forced on you, which feels so much less demoralising.
Yush, and the fact that no one has to spend time auto failing hull and ability saves and only 5 evasion
yeee
but yeah RSU to help allies is very underrated
Just being able to clear Jammed, Immobilized, shredded as a quick action is so good. Hell, even removing impaired, slow or lock on isn't nothing
Its especially useful with Machien bond cause then you're always clearing all of your own conditions anyway so you almost always have your second option free unless your actively on fire or need to reload
Seems it's just me?
I would much rather pilot a sag than a drake. I like moving
And my only issue with taking house guard this early is that I have literally nothing other than guardian that benefits from it and my squad is all about running at people, if I can't keep up then house guard isn't gonna do much anyways, especially since I will be throwing some of them at enemies with ferrous lash
Though I suppose with black witch I can focus on pulling everyone to us so I don't have to move up as much
I'd probably lean the same way, pick an immediately good talents and do a swap to full House Guard at a later LL
Sagarmatha instead of Drake... honestly kinda works to me. You can nail an extra Armor on later with IPS-N core bonus and just generally be a mobile heavy gunner with a side of shield instead of the immovable shield in an escort sitrep
Unless someone else's running full mobility support in which case I may as well be the widest thing on the battlefield, Sunzi will get me there with speed 3 or speed 6 all the same
oh my build goal is an iconoclast gorgon, but LL1 gorgon is kind of mid
we do have the bunzi... but the bunzi might not play the bunzi. it would make drake a lot more fun, but i don't see serenity piloting a drake as fun as i personally think it would be
it does have an active that tbh i don't really like, its kind of like deaths head where you can use it... i guess?
Bro thinks he's one of them 💀💀💀🔥🔥🔥 [SPOILERS FOR CHAPTER 1]
today is NOT pink day
BRICK mechs
LEVIATHAN WINS AGAIN 
NO (ch5) ||PIRATE OR CULTIST OR PIRATE CULTIST|| CAN STOP US
We just got through (ch5) ||the entire opfor exploded by the end of round 4||, feels good
||Also those fuckers shot loki I'm coming for you||
hehe c:
Chapter 1 spoilers ||Duality of Andros||
...I have to really resist looking at spoilers now
serenai FINALLY did a ton of damage the combat before i switch to sagarmatha
but also showed that my god these freaks NEED a tank
does char work on sundays
This is why I'm really glad to be taking micro maintenance suite
Man
I witnessed a Ronin reflect an andromeda shot only for it to get bounced back again with tachyon pulse, killing him instantly
We reached the final encounter and everyone got to do a monologue
There was also an assault that missed 4 attacks on a Saladin with Noah active and its nearby friends
Today was a good day
I love IGF
Infront of ||all of Union through Ipswitch's stream no less||
You can bet that HA will use that footage to sell Saladin's performance to any potential lancers lmao
common HA frame W
Hmm? :o
Thank you big Sam
based on primo
I've got the true based one
Can you show?
this is a hate crime
this is art
You are both correct
I'm always correct 
political commentary
MECH JOCKEY!
all commentary is inherently political
i only like media that isn't political, like metal gear solid
incredibly loud incorrect buzzer
somehow my melee ass didnt structure once during that fight
pictured
This is without even mentionning that both attacks on the ronin were crits
Meanwhile the ronin rolled a 1
Achievement Unlocked: Oi! What just happened? - Take an enemy from full HP to down a structure on their own turn
you didn't try to melee 1v1 a berserker
LL2 IGF spoilers meme
-# RUN COWARD
No wait
That's a Transformers refetence i am entirely in the wrong place
man the session I ran today was woof
its my boy :V
BIG ch3 spoilers and npc spoilers so be warned. Party did the following
||* Party has gotten back to the gate with Ana and Pear since they helped the streamed Badstar fight and Switch wants an interview at some point.
- Finished a thrawt the cult action and stopped a small cell forming
- Got the militia ready
- Player finally got their invitation to the finals for hell fire leauge
- Player had a private one on one after doing a favor for the cult with Surraya (Anastasia's Sister). It went...poorly. Surayya almost told her she's an elect now. Since she is on the Gate and knows she will probably be captured....sharp claws can tear a neck pretty good.||
They saved her but just barely. She's in critical condition right now.
That sounds bad
WOOO HELL YEAH
LETS GO LEVIATHANS!

you're now ~technically~ ahead of wwnb because we're still on that combat because we made it a BIG combat
ch5 ||we killed capella again a bit ago, but we still got plenty of Elect to murderize...||
Ch.4:
||Pressure Point: Player attacked with an AOE superheavy. I said this, and they immediately backed off and chose a different weapon.||
If anyone ever wonders where our group has been, follow the trail of smoking craters. Can't miss 'em
oh no we just started the (ch5) ||final fight against andros, ignatius and friends. This was referring to the one before that where you have to get through a hangar, so wwnb is still ahead of us I think|| 
Don't worry, Leviathans always win
(Thanks)
(ch5) ||When mcfucking ANDROS stepped out of the portal Léo went "What the FUCK is WRONG WITH YOU" at Ignatius and then a 10 minute rant almost begging him to give one reason to not believe that he's just clinically insane||
LMAO
As Fritz put it: ||"You wanna know the best part? You are WORSE than Capella! AT LEAST CAPELLA DIDN'T PRETEND TO BE RIGHTEOUS!"||
HEY WAIT A MINUTE HOW COME YOU ALSO HAVE A WHITE, TEAL, AND BLACK PROTOGEN CHARACTER IN YOUR GAME
We got an authentic vtuber, baybee 
(art done by @rawcrayfish)
woah
okay I misremembered there being white as a primiary color, but the teal is definitely there
raptor-like is something i never see ever, that's pretty cool
Not my character, but a character of someone I GM'd in this game before he sadly had to drop out.
Oh word, you playing with kolibri?
Does that name mean something to you?
You have no idea how long I waited to finally drop that line on them
i got a friend who goes by koblibri
she draws art
she's neat
:o hell yeah. the only reason i asked is because that's me
i assume you're not that kolibiri
Could be. Send us that sketchbook Meow. 
i have many secrets
You will share those secrets soon enough.
even if i did i am simply too embarrassed by everything i do to share
:)
You know what
Share your stuff
Ill COMPLIMENT IT
I will post fire emojis in reactions
mmm no
tbh i did earlier today, it's just not igf relevant and i just wanted feedback
(she's writing her own wallflower act 2)
Is In Golden Flame good for new players?
lmao [Chapter 3]||in Pixel's game we just inspired the crowd to beat Ignatius to death|| [Chapter 5]||Not that it'll change anything xD||
jesus christ 
I'd say so, yeah. The first level or so is very low stakes in terms of failure, good place to learn. And the balance is generally decent.
I am a new player currently playing IGF and having a blast, hello
i think pretty much every lancer game i've seen is, and igf is no exception. it was the first campaign i've ever been a part of but i wasn't new; some of my players are new and they're loving it
Thanks!
but hey ||it reduced the cult influence clock||
there are certainly some learning curves that kind of teach you a hard lesson in chapter 1 imo, but it really encourages them to learn the game
igf likes when you can roleplay a bunch of people as a gm, but it's hardly a requirement
yeah
doesn't it do the opposite???
HUH????
It's how I introduced lancer to my crew, and as far as I can tell it worked pretty well.
a fantastic intro! I tend to run for new lancer players and IGF, while a hefty time commitment, is great at easing in new players and providing them enough variety to work with lots of builds.
w u h
well time to prep ch4 ?:)
I might be in danger
Offhandedly mentionned I'd like to go see (ch3) ||The Crone|| again and now the GM is plotting mischievously

Yes exactly like that
You’re a fool to assume they’re not plotting 24/7
Fair point but also when I get an emoji react and an ominous quote from i assume the book that specifically references the exact scenario i'm stepping into that's when the plotting gets real scary
You’re a even bigger fool to believe that the book wasn’t plotting against you too
not just the book, the universe
Help
the depths...
pov quill when they get him
ch2 npc spoiler
Player made this within SECONDS of meeting ||howl||
Good Morning IGF gamers
wait huh? 

you are being gotten
I had a debatably good run
Quil out here catching strays for Invader
I'd pick Bonded if it wasn't adjacency based 
I miss igf
it's been two weeks and i feel myself regressing
two more weeks and im gonna be ranting about how good dnd 5e is
"truly a universal system applicable to every style of campaign"
I will put you on a high shelf if you do that
I miss hearing about JDT...
"Lancer's narrative system is just too rules-lite. It can't compete with the complexities achieved by 5e"
I'm sorry Eleonor it's for the best
"In fact, here's my completely original 5e reskin for lancer"
"Lancer needs fog of war"
but really.. being in euro time sucks. all my friends are in american timezones
I mean, certain triggers are never going to proc for the narrative portion. While same are stupidly universal
Looking at you Hack or Fix
are you using vex's split trigger?
as described in igf act 1?
bunzi!
Ah well, to late now
triggers are the right amount of loosy goosy anyways
just make new shit
the ones in compcon and the book are all examples taken too seriously
I'm gonna make a new custom trigger for when we hit act 2 methinks
I want to dive head first into nhp legionspace bullshit
Okay to be fair I say the shadw talent from Legion and I am TEMPTED for Charlotte's ll9 build
I love how I have Charlotte as the trope of:
"Fundamentally warm and kind person but uses the most spooky and questionable magic/power in the verse."
shit lmao i'm glad i used the split for Celaeno
She can't jury-rig but she can do things by the book
Take your time, I'm not here to rush you
I'm excited but I can be patient for when people are available
I miss you too worstie 
Work has been particularly annoying recently so I feel like I can't even talk to you in the little bit of time we share
Leo, Dragon why did you handshake emote that
Wha-huh??? What are you doing???
I handshaked it because Leo did
Who is Leo
Oh no, serenitai is having the NHP dementia
Random playtest characters I make need good thematic triggers
I'm trying really hard to understand what "got a nibble" could even mean
You’ll learn when you’re old enough
WE'RE THE SAME AGE
-# I thought you said you were 27?
I also need to show off the token my friend made me for that first character
Noticing small signs (fish nibbling at bait on a line) that indicate the opportunity for a big score (fish for dinner)
Let me guess it's gonna be like a 2 year difference
I’m 24 so that means I’m still sat at the kids table, I think
A fetus
huh...
If 24 is a child then I think I don't exist yet
You don't
That’s a huge fish in its grubby hands…
Oh I've seen this one lmao isn't it literally called "gone fishin"
Yep
Damn, guess 22 is too young to get access to corporeal reality
She made it for me and then I told her put it on the chop shop
22 Gang
Peak
What month?
August
You haven't reached the level requirement
HMMMMMMMM
I am mad that the both of you are 22
I'm stuck in the fucken tutorial zone
🤓
Stop making me feel old 😭
I want to ask what day but then that feels like I'm asking for too much info
I did not expect you to be younger than me…
I am also August
Oh hell yeah
Yours is almost certainly earlier in the month than mine
Sweet summer children
Doubt it
30th
Ey, close tho
Yep
Something something coincidence field
Gets em every time
everyone is either 22, 27 or 32 apparently
And yet it is my least favorite season
Winter gang rise up
Fuck yeah winter
😳
I'm not built for this shit let it be cold again PLEASE
Winter is the only time I like going outside because every annoying person is gone
-# I can’t relate since I just moved to a place where summer is habitable
My bias is not solely based on the fact that I was born in december
NGL I read that And thought it was in C
Imagine your birthday being in the same month as Christmas
SMH
It's been like 60f where I live during the summer lol
I know somebody born on christmas
Usually around this time of year it reaches 100f for no real reason other than the world is a fuck
Born to die 1989 degrees
410757864530 dead mosquitos
We don't really have those! Just spider season
It's currently a nice cool 60F/15C right here, but im an idiot and im getting hormone related hotflashes so im fucking dying
The temperature has recovered... I can actually go outside I think
UK RN is a tad hot... But worst of all humid too 😩
That's crazy imagine going outside
DONE
I truly forgot how awful hormone withdrawal feels like
WHAT NEXT CAPTAIN
I know right that where freaks nard right there in the open
I had no idea you could have hormone withdrawals
Yeah humidity's only like ~60% here right now, so like.
Could be worse! At least sweating still works!
and annoyingly itchy skin as if blood circulation issues
It is currently 26C here with 50% humidity, could be worse, it's not 35C yet
it feels like your legs fall a bit asleep and then just itch
Apparently it's going to rain on thursday which I CANNOT wait for
yea, :nekosweat: is exactly how i feel right now. Im gonna shower and stab myself with the girl-ification juice
Eh just been in a depressive stupor partially age related hehe
You will join me in my suffering, in time
my IGF group is starting to take shape by the way
We have one hell's gate native who's been in the militia his whole life and won a mech on a coinflip when he was 16, one former IPS-N delivery starship pilot who got a Calliope layover and found an unused mech in a container drifting in space, one fugitive from a planet that got absolutely nuked by a rogue NHP who she unknowingly has the cycling sequence for imprinted in her head, and one car tuning enthusiast that thought Calliope was a land rich with opportunity for money and licensing equipment and is now stranded there
the former ips-n is also taking technophile so i have 2 separate nhp related incidents to plan for 
am i just cringe for using the default picks
I still have to figure out how to apply conceptualize
you just need to play the entirety of disco elysium, then it should come naturally to you
NODDING
I do not have time for this
Plz explain it in simple terms
Communism
being seasian means that 30 degrees c is normal
anything below that is kinda pleasantly chilly
also inner monologue
begone, hotflashes!
Ok though being serious for a second I don't actually know
disco elysium is a deeply unserious game that is also extremely serious
I am being serious in all matters, leo
i was having hot flashes from not taking my weekly estrogen for 3 weeks and i just took it
A great philosopher I met two weeks ago said "I am joking 100% of the time" and honestly I vibe with that statement
In this case though I was speaking about Conceptualize not the hotflashes
what if a dark brooding russian novel had like a clown as its protagonist
lmao
I'd say Conceptualize is a skill that you're probably going to use to try and find new perspective in things. Like, there's something that you seem to be missing in an investigation, a connection you're not seeing, or maybe something that your current train of thought and/or logic is preventing you from considering.
Conceptualize: what if your inner monologue was smarter than you?
The skill description also talks about deriving meaning so you could use it to find out what someone was thinking or trying to say by looking at a drawing they made, a graffiti, anything
Conceptualize: What if you could weaponize the phrase "what if?"?
you see this spray painted on a wall in the station, you could roll Conceptualize to find out what the person who made it wanted to say
-# spoiler it was "fuck you Ignatius, you suck"
-# me shilling? never
What? huh? what has this "Ignatius" character ever done to you? how could you be so rude!
where is my Charlotte innermonologue about her mother instincts kicking in meme
right here
somehow Leo is better at keeping track of the Charlotte archives than me
I just knew you pinged me with it in this thread so it's a fairly easy search
ah, fair
I WILL dig up posts several months old to make a point and or a joke
the bit will never die
Exactly
if you throw a meme at my face and I get the chance to throw it back at your face I will do it 100% if I haven't forgotten
As the old saying goes: a leviathan never forgets
Case in point, someone often threw this image at my face whenever I expressed excitement about the prospect of playing lancer and/or sadness at having to wait two or more weeks to play again
BUT THEN
This same person mentionned that they had a dream about playing Lancer and I have not thrown an image back at someone so hard for a long while
||She cannot contain the silliness||
-# just remembered i had this meme on hand
You fiend for games that badly you invaded my dream to have Invader hit my in-dream PC with this after they used their own deadname to call for backup 
lmao
pfft, thank you. I would like to clarify, ||we didn't intend to incite the mob to kill him, we just rolled a couple too many crits||
Same. I need it every day to keep the bad thoughts away
You dream about lancer every day??
you don't??!?
No!!
I dream of unrelated bullshit like doing parkour on trains or asking a couple of old german women for a bottle of ketchup to flavor a bowl of rice I'm lugging around, not playing Lancer
what was that second thing???
EVEN IN MY DREAMS I WOULDN'T EAT KETCHUP WITH RICE
WHY NOT
I DON'T KNOW MAN
IT BEATS PLAIN RICE
I have actually had a few dreams about lancer, but they're infrequent
I honestly thought you were british
How rude to insult someone like that
why, oh why do people put ketchup in rice
the hell? how
even my belothed wife does it
me too..
what??!?
I see you're getting into the married life. "The ole ball and chain"
Juli I didn't think you were British
b-but rice is for mixing with other flavors!...
(also hello fellow filipino)
i dunno
with vegies! and soy sauce!
oh crap where is my Philipines mentioned meme
entirely vibes based british association
ok good
I just find it funny since all my friends yell at me about how i'm the most stereotypical Californian
I kind of thought so as well tbh
okay yeah, californian makes more sense
As a west coaster you give the vibes
The Vibes™️
of course it is
but i do get withdraw symptoms without plain white rice
I personally would have never assigned you as californian because I've never seen you say "My country is on fire again"
jen is a seattlelite
What does she orbit
like... just rice by itself?
the igf chat
westest coast bestest coast
Makes sense

west coast? more like worst coast, amirite???
#northCoastGang
(it's the great lakes)
I have no opinion on coasts
-# the bit's starting to run away from me I was just saying that plain rice is good too
sorry i guess i'm nitpicking this too hard LOL
develop one right now this is the internet for gods sake!
no
I'm stronger then ever since my campaign's (hopefully) starting again in a few weeks
did you know every coastline has infinite length?
the smaller your unit measure, the longer the coastline measures
because it's a fractal
(and also shifts with waves and tides)
I managed to trick another player into joining so i have a party of 4 Pure Stikers and one sunzi to feed them
that sounds terrifying
its worse since like half of them will be super heavy executioners
blender moment
my team is going to start with 2 CPR snipers
That's just Stron's game
you wanna know what's worse
one of my players is an Empaaki and he wants to have two superheavies at the same time...
GEE EMPAAKAI
one to squish people close range and one to cook them at long range
How come Juli lets you have TWO superheavies
because I'm a benevolent GM and will make them suffer for it later
y-you can have two super heavies??
ikr, if you're going to get a single basic condiment-y thingto put on it at least make it a decent mango chutney or something, not ketchup.
If you've got an integrated superheavy, yup!
the Empaaki has a superheavy by default and a heavy mount for more bullshit...
ah... right
terrifying
Lycan can also do it
honestly double sheavy lycan actually sounds kind of like a real build
it seems like just a meme on empaakai but lycan could make it work ngl...
don't give my player ideas...
it's funny, I feel like I don't know as much about PC builds as I should bc I've spent so much time GMing :P
Haha that's so silly hey Juli can I join your game I promise I won't 2 superheavy Lycan
you run hcp or something as you lorewalk towards the enemies on the first couple of turns. Then when someone finally rushes you to shut down your hcp crimes or you watch your buddy get buddied into the sun by a tier 2 specter or something, you go loud and beat your enemies to death in melee.
or if you've got the lls, siege cannon could be dirty. Who needs to reload your siege mode shot if you just go loud next turn instead?
I want the HCP but a nexus
real
in general it feels like the devs were afraid of nexuses more than they should have been (please I can be trusted with nexus hcp)
(I can also be trusted with nexus hcp)
Wonder if you could just separate the gms stuff out of Suldan
(But still stabbing)
How much gms stuff is there
6 weapons and 3 core bonuses
and (technically) 1 frame, but it's linked to one of the core bonuses
What are the two core bonuses
Okay yeast coast, stinky
bloathed
Um????
sammich
Hell yeah bread
Kangto is very dumb and one day I will run a build with it
bread-free bread
Why do you hate me Eleonor
Funny
She truly is british...
you take that back
Frame who's strength comes from a trait rather than raw stats, like say Atlas, and then just glue that trait to the Kangto and you basically have 8 structure if you squint
I thought I was mean to Eleonor...
anyone who hates you deserves to be british
Because who else could hate the french other than the british and also maybe half of the entire world but don't mind that it doesn't serve my argument
You're one of the good ones Leo /j

The bun, (stabbed for having an contradictory opinion on homebrew)
Is being in Brittany the best or worst of both worlds for being Br*tish and Fr_nch
who the hell is brittany?
It's France's Arm that goes into the atlantic
You could probably think of it as France's Texas
It's always rainy and they love butter and caramel
Honestly I don't think anyone in Brittany thinks that anymore except maybe a select pinch of people
Corsica are the ones who might more reliably think that though maybe
I feel like that happens a lot so fair. Canada has quebec
That might be a better comparison
Why are we talking about Warhammer
Silence Californian
IM FROM WASHINGTON
The city or the state
I would die in Cali it's too hot
Don’t speak to my fellow Californian that way, Rabbit
The one on the west coast, dingus. Washington State, Seattle
Hey people move out all the time
I was born in Florida
I wouldn't know I don't exactly hunt for birth certificates
-# Would it be to mean to say oof…
Say it
No Florida really sucks I moved for a reason

DO NOT CHALLENGE ME, I WAS LOST THERE FOR MANY YEARS
"What kind of place are you from where they got that bullshit at"
"Florida"
"I knew it"
No for real, I left Cali the second I had enough cash to bounce
I would also leave Calliope if I had the means to
Doesn't that comparison mean the only city to live in is Maimi?
Now you got me thinking what accents people have in the stations and Furnace City
God I love public infrastructure
what's amazing is just how much you naturally walk in a place with infra.
Southern California is miserable for me so I understand
Im walking 7k steps every day here in Oslo with no effort
Me walking to the bus stop that takes me to my apartment :)
New pilot lore: they have a combat grade mechanised chassis license but not a driving license
the bus stops in your apartment door?
Léo is also in this situation
No but I don't have to walk far at all
His home world is nothing but trains trams and subways why would he have a personnal vehicle
... I almost committed to getting a private pilot license before my driver's license but my dad "didnt see enough enthusiasm in me"
Private pilot as in...?
I walk like, 3 kilometers in a day realistically
every time i look into getting it im reminded of my dad and bleh
"for personal use only"
no commercial
and initially only in clear weather
like, planes??
yea
god damn
Ponders having Quil be driven everywhere so he never actually learned, purely so I can shock Sam with it
tl;dr dad ruined planes for me
Ok give me a minute snicker
...wait didn't we have Leo drive in chapter 3
Please support the people who created this masterpiece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjQcgav0kS8&ab_channel=TeamFourStar
Thank you for watching the video, it would mean the world if you could share this with someone!
Traitor
Wh
Nah he gave directions to Sam who was driving blind in the night with no lights
Was Leo doing some magus bullshit to act as a gps?
Yes
I will betray many things for only mild convenience but I usually know what I'm doing acts of betrayal
Yeah basically
He used nightvision, possession and Attune to the world to find a way in complete darkness so they wouldn't get spotted
Yet another strike from the coincidence nexus since my Magus player is a navigator nhp
ok in my defense Léo isn't actually an NHP yet
YET?!
I have included the yet purely because I thought the reactions would be funny
Thank you for cooperating
He will get his egg broken one day
"Woops, the egg wasn't about gender"
This is a certified horizon collective moment
This Kills the NHP
everyone else "no don't do it quill D:"
Serenai "hell yeah who wouldn't wanna be an NHP"
He is getting chummy with a Horizon collective agent currently...
Uh, I'm Quil. Leo is Leo
Hi I'm Léo
me when i contribute to the brain soup called Kevin
You can understand my confusion
No
put it into a lich, die twice and still walk away
Your brain is an enigma
chat what?.
You mean no one else wants to ascend their meatbound form?
Please, my brain is as hard to read as an unencrypted plaintext file of supposedly secure passwords
FUCK I'm sorry I didn't believe that Leo's characters name was Leo because that seemed too obvious so I thought he said quill but it was you!!!

Quil is sexy karrakin raptor bird man
i said you couldnt!!
When have I ever listened to you
Léo (or Invader for his callsign) is jittery blue hair hacker core world man
oh right Juli, have this older model of Char's sunzi
"Léo is Leo", forbidden sanity breaking lore for the average Lancer
I like making things easy to understand and unconfusing
Im gonna have to use my safeword for this
When you guys say Leo here I'm assuming you're talking about Leo, the person Leo
Not the character Leo
How could you possibly get confused about this
Yeah I face that problem too
Léo is the transgender one; Leo is the transhuman one
oi
No that checks out
Who tf names their character after them???
I just realised I could use my actual name for a pilot and nobody online would know
I would
Sorry to admit, my real name is not Void 
The french?
If I did everyone would know because Eleonor doxes my irl name every day (it's okay I forgive you)
I was devastated to find out
It's bunzi, obviously
I could have my real name in my handle and nobody would even know
your address is in the core rulebook
This is actually my legal name
Don’t worry jésus, I’ll keep your secret safe
Meow Regina Button
No one will ever guess that my actual name is Hannibal
Jokes on you I haven't read beyond the rules
jé-sus?? that's the first time i see it accentuated like that
The french accentuate it like that all the time
The spanish also I can only assume
Jesús
Sorry jésus is my uncle
feuk
Oh… I fucked it up…
I'm pretty sure there are ways to include my name in a username inconspicuously but it would be a tad jank
you've read the rules?
If I put my actual name in my handle it's going to be turbo obvious
This just in: Jesus is just okay
Bruh, i like my legal name but it's not the easiest to pronounce so people at work know me by two names
I keep insisting that they can call me either
they dont get it
Ellionard
Elenor is your illegal name?
Elenor is illegal, but Eleonor is legal
Your ronin title
Pilot who changes their legal name to Christ-the-Buddha
elnr is hyperlegal
E
Fuck… I keep fucking up peoples names today…
It's okay juul pod
Future Juul
Oof ow my popcorn lung
Eleonor talking to us like its her Calliopean name
yes?!
you don't?
I knew my name long before I even had the chance to transition
Thanks my life as a teenage robot
That's what one of my players/friends calls me
If we’re sharing name stories
I landed on Juli the second my egg broke and never even thought of a different one
Yep
Oh fuck you were pulling our collective legs
Past Juli is dead
Long live future Juli
Your power armour explodes off to reveal and even more form fitting, somehow more stable set of power armour
this is just the Lycan
This Kangto feels like I'm wearing nothing at all
Unironically how I'd play it, you just shed the overcharging ablative armor
YOU
Thank you for making me look at that homebrew. the Legionarre talents are very neat c:
Kangto Atlas is the equivalent of wearing latex under your clothes
-# stupid sexy opfor pilot…
Sure you moved faster with the boosters strapped to you, but it messed with your ewarfare suite
I had an idea of a lycan NHP character who would just blow the armor off to reveal loose wires and glowing electricity
...sigh
I’m in danger
....taking notes for later...
For use later
Look i want this pilot to mirror their mech
I used to hate my name, everyone would make fun of it, but I've grown into it 
You assume I’m not sitting on a palette of them at all times??!?
see not many of you are aware of The Lady in Red/The Lady of Roses, but I did attempt to convince the player to use Lycan before they settled on Vlad.
Legionnaire apparently has a reputation for intuiting a bunch of NHP stuff that will turn up in WF Act 2 and being basically dead on
LOOK UPON MY BRICKS YE MIGHTY AND GET A CONCUSSION
Now every time I attack her I have to pay "The Lady Tax."
It's as close to canon as you can get as a third party book
-# debating whether or not to continue the bit…
FUCKING DO IT
But yes Legionnaire is very cool
HEY I KNOW THAT EMOTE

Occasionally thought of changing my name, but nothing really jumped out at me. Even my own name, its just a syllable you use to get the attention of me, a nameless divine being of pure energy shackled to the material plane. Obviously.

I AM THE BONE OF MY BRICK
# UNLIMITED BRICK WORKS
unlimited bun works and it's just char casting mirror image
The funniest bit about this is that my name is really, really really REALLY easy to translate into feminine form
Weighed down by your clothes, just start streaking in the middle of a fight
They are all doing a little dance
Thanks french language
Bonus, you can also do it in your mech now too! :D
a quick sidenote, there's no other chat in this server like this one. igf chat fucking rules and i love all of you
its the one of the only ones i don't feel like an outcast weirdo
"so easy im gonna do it right now.. for the bit"
I do like it but sometimes I feel like I'm overstepping a bit? Like this entire conversation is not about IGF at all what am I doing here
This is what Kangto looks like
we do have our own little subculture yeah.
Okay back to work bye
I know I love you guys I wish every module was like this
I'm also guilty of not talking about lancer on the godsdamn lancer discord
I think it would be if it wasn't JUST a spoiler channel
eh, I wouldn't sweat it. Unless a mod or vex says otherwise the thread is for whatever purpose the people using it use it for. Democracy or something, idk.
Igf is also super queer and furry so ofc the community is cooler
As a disclaimer I am not a furry
But yeah there's nothing like it, love you guys you don't even know

the gm thread is a lot quieter and resembles more general pnet vibes, tho, still igf flavored
Yet
Its accurate to the setting. You think the Muse threads are ever on topic?
Yet
we're somehow the super queer and furry corner of an already super queer and furry system to begin with
Gee I wonder why
We have a lot of work to do on you huh...
Do you think it's because of the queer furry author
it is both June and soon to be ArtFight, honestly kinda homophobic that you don't have a fursona yet
I'm honestly amazed nothings happened yet. Not even a cat fursona.
Please I had worse
I am terrified of the housing market, it's true
I think Leo is the only one in the group without a Fursona
I don't think Gray has one but I might be entirely wrong about this
Ok, that's it, we need to fix that
Well Aisaan's player kinda has a computersona, but
Yeah that
-# ah fuck, my summer is already so hectic don't make me do this...
compsonas count
I think we count being a space station thing with robotic proxies
to be fair, I haven't actually fully developed one yet either, but I have enough ideas that I could make a sona right now.
it's all about transhumanism bby!!
I have plenty of OCs but I wouldn't brand any of them as (something)sonas 
change that
No
by order of the Jarl
do what I do, just post OCs and label yourself as a practice dummy
A few years ago I'd have been an earth pony, at least now I'm only a giant snake
Pride month? Naw, we practice pride year here partner. Gay rights around the clock, 24/7 no stopping no dropping. Be gay, do crimes. Be straight, do time.
Im a nebulously defined fox
What about Aces what do they do
i also like goat sonas
Fellow fox detected
Pilot
Though I also vibe with cows
Bitchin
I see very few chickens/roosters, tbh
-# There's an obvious joke here...
I'd be one of the ones with the feather "beards"
Fox! You made it!
I commissioned someone to draw me an aggressively french chicken one day hang on
Buddy that should give away about 3 of my kinks

PG13 server teehee 
3 foxes
I'm literally just a cat it's hard to type
oh a cat
Foxes are just cats
false
Foxes are dog hardware running on cat software
Canid cars
What are you a biologist?
canid cars is much more accurate
KACHOW
Dog car
Yes /half serious
I'm not a furry but why do all my social groups end up being chock full of furries.
I'm not complaining or anything, to be clear
its just odd.
I know a lot about taxonomy and paleobiology I have more power than you on this topic
we run the world. next question
Foxes are cat software running on dog hardware
I saw your profile picture and thought "who the fuck are you" wren
gottem.
where is the straw hat
See, I always thought it was dog software on cat hardware?
excuse me, that hat is not made from straw
fuck
All I know is that foxes should wash more often
Just need to draw Leo in the Neco Arc style and bam, fursona
what are dog cats?
no, see, CatDogs come from the Nickelodeon cartoon
Good luck you have no idea what I look like
i thought leo was already a neko-arc
hey fuck u. i am very clean
why would that stop us???
this is how i speak at all times https://youtu.be/ffxG6nFKNR0
I get black cat vibes from you Leo
felt! the hat is made of felt!
I have 4 black cats
The hat is real!!!!
I get some sort of weasyl
very based of you leo
Sorry, 2 and a half
real wizard in the chat!!!!
Wait huh
why wouldn't it be????
One is tortoiseshell, mostly black but not entirely so half a point
oh god... what happened to half of that cat...
Half cat half dog
SCP-529 is the funniest answer I can come up with
Real answer is they just look something like this, half black half orange
Pure chaos
Behold, Léo
How dare you
sorry sorry
I also have pictures of me double hatted.
Behold, Léo
Thank you
true
Zis is meuch more accurate
Accûrètte
Ackureight
Leo real??????
I have entered halloween mode early this year.
every time someone tries to interpret a french accent over text, I always imagine the person saying it as they type with their lips pulled as far back from their teeth as they can manage.
like a fuckin Nigel & Marmalade cartoon
Translating a french accent into text for an english audience is hard because we don't use any vowels the same way at all
we know
it's awful
french lost its sauce like 1000 years ago when they incorporated a bunch of germanic sounds
bring back latin
excuse me
we kneaux
bring back old french
Why do you need Latinas so badly Eleonor






