#Field Guide to Iridia

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twilit ether
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Huh, alrighty then

grim pasture
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Similar to how an Invisibility-induced automatic miss still requires rolling on the Gorgon trait and such like

twilit ether
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Though since it only stops attacks, does that mean other effects inactive weapons have still apply? Stuff like Terashima Blade

balmy vigilBOT
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That.. Doesn't feel RAI to me?

twilit ether
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Yeah, basically just asking to see if some clarification text was needed

polar lotus
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I forget what has passive effects other than Terashima

vocal ridge
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Yeah, that's fair, that's not intended.

twilit ether
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Gotcha

vocal ridge
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There, newest wording. 😛

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twilit ether
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Ah yeah thanks

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Crystal clear now

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I'd ask about charging D/D 288 but that feels pedantic, the RAI is pretty clear

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...Actually tacking on "non-integrated" into "non-Heavy mounts" might be a good idea

vocal ridge
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Fair enough.

vivid granite
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oooh this looks cool

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do you have to switch two at once when you do the protocol, or is it 1 or 2?

vocal ridge
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One or two - you're free to mix and match freely.

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I'll reword that to "change" instead of "swap".

balmy vigilBOT
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Does that mean that all integrated mounts (like the FRG) will always be active?

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[Reply to:](#1057844754550886511 message) ...Actually tacking on "non-integrated" into "non-Heavy mounts" might be a good idea

twilit ether
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Presumably yes

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It'd be pretty bad if you have to allot one of two mounts on Integrateds that should always be active anyways

vocal ridge
left meadow
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Oh can Mechs have more than three mounts in compcon I thought that was a hard limit outside of integrateds ???

vocal ridge
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Seems to me like it works just fine.

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twilit ether
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Ohhhhh yeah baby

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It's beautiful

left meadow
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Ohhhh nice

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Thats useful to know

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Also can I just say the unicorn is extremely cool

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Basically having two different loadouts that you can switch between is really cool and this way of handling it is extremely nice

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It feels satisfying to use

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I really look forward to the hypothetical time when I get to try it out

twilit ether
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As I understand it, Luminary Mod only works with Exe1 and 3 if it's the second attack, and doesn't work at all with Exe2(if you threw it and crit) yes?

kindred comet
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You mean like, because you won't have the weapon back in hand until the end of the turn when you throw it?

vocal ridge
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Yes, if you threw it, then you can't make further attacks with it, as with other Thrown. And Wide Arc Cleave should still apply, but only within Threat, not with Thrown.

twilit ether
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Ah so if you throw it and crit characters within threat still take the damage?

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But I'm guessing if you throw it and miss you can't reroll the attack with No Escape? Or can you?

vocal ridge
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It's the same attack, so you could reroll it.

twilit ether
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Neato, thanks

kindred comet
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Worth noting that No Escape (and Backswing Cut) specify that the alternate target must be within Threat.

twilit ether
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I'm just gonna ask in #rules-questions about how throwing Brutus Wrecker works with Exe for more confirmation

vocal ridge
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Yeah, this just works like any other Thrown weapon would.

weary grove
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I have a question regarding Soulwarden's soulbind feature. If I, a Calenduela, banish a target affected by soulbind and make it intangible, how does that affect the other character linked by soulbind

vocal ridge
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Per Intangible: "...but effects that require an ongoing interaction between two characters or objects (like traps or force fields) end."

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So, it'd end, because it requires an ongoing interaction.

weary grove
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gotcha, thanks!

twilit ether
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Actually, while we're speaking of Stellar Codex, how are you feeling about Viridian?

vocal ridge
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It's been getting a bit of minor stat changes after playtesting. A sensors increase to 8, with a few stat drops to compensate.

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5 turned out to be a bit too limiting, it felt.

twilit ether
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I see I see, I assume the playstyle is supposed to be just walking to the densest enemy crowds not carring about reactions with Flux Shielding and hoping one of them triggers Overwatch outside of your turn?

vocal ridge
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No crowd necessary. Just need someone you don't want to move.

twilit ether
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Though I guess you could forcefully trigger it with H0r_OS 1, which is probably the intended synergy now that I think about it

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How often has it triggered in playtesting?

vocal ridge
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Not a huge amount, but that was in part due to the playstyle, as well as just the threat of "if you move, I will likely knock you Prone."

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Being able to inflict tech stuff on opponent turns basically doubles efficiency.

twilit ether
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Fair enough then, I guess I'm just asking because I don't seem to "get it", the frame I mean

twilit ether
vocal ridge
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It's a close-range techer with a massive sword of damocles if people want to try and actually reposition.

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Free teleport has been useful, too. Especially with Unicomp.

twilit ether
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Yeah never thought about how Tech attacks are probably more lethal on someone's turn compared to just a weapon

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Also Manticore system stonks holy cow

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Are the exotics being changed up too currently?

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(Sorry for the barrage of questions lol, just kinda excited)

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Oh wait 2 new exotics have been added I didn't even realize that

vocal ridge
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Exotics for what? Nothing's changed for either set of exotics.

twilit ether
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Stellar Codex, and ah, alrighty then

vocal ridge
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Ah, I guess you mean the Exotics that were added a while back because of changing the Sable and repurposing the stuff that worked from it.

twilit ether
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Ye

twilit ether
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Hmm, should Breaching Mods allow you to overlap with characters? Currently it just says objects and terrain

vocal ridge
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No, it doesn't change being able to move past characters.

twilit ether
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Ah alrighty

main rain
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hey, for the purposes of gaining power tokens for Runecaster 3, do different invade options count as separate Quick Techs?

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(the wording on the talent is. very unclear about this)

twilit ether
vocal ridge
balmy vigilBOT
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What about this?

The first time you use each unique Quick Tech, Full Tech or Invade option each scene, gain a Power Token. When you gain 3 Power Tokens, clear them, then your Rune Collection regains X charges. X is equal to the number of times you've cleared Power Tokens in this scene. All Power Tokens vanish at the end of a scene.

vocal ridge
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I did do a callout in the PDF, but I've been learning that apparently nobody reads it even if it's free. 😛

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I might just have to do it directly in the text if I do a further update.

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In other news, @frail mountain has once again graced us with mech art: The Azure, an Emperor-alt that shapes gravity and light.

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polar lotus
balmy vigilBOT
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Oh goodness me, that is quite the frame!

vocal ridge
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Something something gaze of justice.

regal dirge
vocal ridge
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My next project - I'm just using this thread for it while it's still in drafting phase.

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(And these're the other frames for it that currently have art. 7 down, 5 to go.)

Bonny.png Hummingbird.png Unicorn.png Tomyris.png Cerise.png Carmine.png
twilit ether
vocal ridge
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Joe does such a bang up job, despite the lore restrictions of "every Aunic Frame needs to have a white chassis base."

left meadow
vocal ridge
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Bonny is, by far, the most popular Frame of the bunch (both in art and mechanics). 😛

hexed narwhal
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Sable looks great, art and mechanics wise

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And the hypercooled thrusters core bonus is calling my name

vocal ridge
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Sable doesn't have art yet, I'm afraid.

hexed narwhal
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It's not the ferrofluid one up there?

vocal ridge
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Nah, Ferrofluid one is the Metalmark Alt.

hexed narwhal
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Ah, gotcha

vocal ridge
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White Witch doesn't get to have all the fun. 😛

hexed narwhal
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Fair 🙃

vocal ridge
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There we go, finally got the Unicorn updated in the main document.

weary grove
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Overwatch Invades is so cool

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looking over these, I think my only question/concern area is Carmine's core? I'm a big proponent for efficient because I know I suffer pretty hard from elixir problem, specifically when it comes to using core powers (but what if I need it next combat,) but a no-questions-asked free action "I take one structure" every scene seems really strong to me? what was the decision made there if I may ask

vocal ridge
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It's not a free action. It's a protocol. Which means you cannot grapple someone and deal the Structure on the same turn, no matter what.

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So you have to have held onto someone for a turn, giving them a chance to escape, or for you to be forced away, or whatever.

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Believe me, that was the thing that I made sure one of my players tried out in testing, and it turned out to... not actually be such a huge deal.

vivid granite
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technically it would take whatever action cost is used to get them into the grapple, too, wouldnt it

vocal ridge
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"Killing one standard enemy after they get a chance to do something already" isn't actually that much of a problem, I've found.

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Yep.

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It's one of those things that makes you go "wait, what?" but hasn't actually proved to be too egregious. I'll happily take testing feedback that says it's too much, though.

weary grove
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that makes sense!

twilit ether
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Huh, didn't it also use to knock the target Prone if they survived? When did that get patched out?

vocal ridge
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It did, but it was frankly unnecessary (since if someone survived, that meant you got full effect from it), so it got removed during testing.

twilit ether
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Ah I see

lapis anvil
# vocal ridge These're going to be going into the Stellar Codex. https://docs.google.com/docum...

The Azure looks so cool! Why's it an Emperor alt frame, though, if it doesn't maintain any Emperor Traits nor have new ones that also interact with Overshield, the hallmark of the Emperor LLs? The only interaction I see is between Perception Veil and the Emperor LL's Tech Action Systems (e.g., Dominion's Bredath, Walk of Kings, etc.). And while Perception Veil is a nice add-on, often you *want *your targets to get hit b/c there's a trigger when the Overshield is lost. Not saying its a bad alt build, but just curious about its design as an Alt to the Emperor.

polar lotus
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"doesn't retain any traits of the original frame" is standard for Alts

left meadow
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yea, if a frame were to follow too close to the original, why make an alt?

twilit ether
left meadow
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certain mechs get less alt ideas than ideas because of that niche, but like! sometimes really niche mechs imo dont always play around with its actual systems

twilit ether
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And while yes it does have effects when you lower the OS, you also want your allies to not die as fast, plus it lets them keep the passive effects of the OS for longer

left meadow
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i was designing my lich alt (of which the alt in here also is a banger) and realized. huh. the lich is so focused on its frame playstyle it doesnt have much synergy with its liscences (like its a hacker and those things are hacker support, but theres not much synergy, its kinda easy to build a lich however you want)

twilit ether
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Yep, that was also one of the reasons the Cerise is a Lich alt, the Lich is weird and funky, but its License is just generally good support gear

left meadow
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yep!

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and i think thats the beauty of designing alts

kindred comet
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The main thing I see is that the Azure wants to be with the mechs it's supporting (Sensors 8, flight for nearby allies, active brings an ally to it), whereas the Emperor is heavily aimed at being fifteen spaces back and Overshielding with its integrated and its sensors. Storm Shield, in particular, ropes the Emperor into Overshield instead of giving it 8 HP (which the Azure has).

main rain
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if the Selene deploys an Assassin Drone as if it were in the space of another character, when choosing its targeted area, do you draw line of sight from the Selene or from the Assassin Drone?

left meadow
vocal ridge
# lapis anvil The Azure looks so cool! Why's it an Emperor alt frame, though, if it doesn't ma...

I didn't make the Azure and assign it to the Emperor. I looked at the Emperor Frame and thought "hmm, what other things can I do with this license?" So, yes, it could fit as alts for other things, I wanted to see what I could do just playing around with Techs in general rather than just being The Overshield Frame.

(Similar as to why the Cerise is a Big Tanky support frame - it's a different way to use the Lich's tools.)

Also, frankly, not every frame interacts specifically with its license gear. The Drake? Just has several generically good traits, but nothing about it specifically interacts with its license.

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twilit ether
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So I vaguely remember a question on if Sympathetic Twinning should work with Emperor, what was your take on it again Data?

vocal ridge
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No, it probably shouldn't. It's just too much actionless OS refilling your HP.

twilit ether
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Gotcha, thanks

vocal ridge
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(Plus, it's not really you directly giving the OS, it's just an effect.)

twilit ether
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Fair enough

dim topaz
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Might have to see if I can power at a cost that license level just to get it sooner

twilit ether
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Ah well Data already answered above

vocal ridge
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I feel like it'll probably be too much, but I won't stop people from collecting info. 😛

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(I'm mostly interested on if it ends up being fundamentally problematic. Because, if so... gonna have to start figuring out some new techs.)

dim topaz
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I feel like it will be too on top of not being even necessary? The Emperor is pretty hard to hit as long as you keep doing OS stuff
Let me talk to my gm and see what he says

vocal ridge
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Like, my gut (and intention) is definitely not to have Emp be able to use it for extra OS.

dim topaz
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I do think based on the wording of both the frame trait and Twinning, it shouldn't count
cuz it says when it grants OS it gains it. But for Twinning, its the other character getting hit that grants the OS

vocal ridge
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Yeah.

lapis anvil
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So, I think the Sympathetic Twinning interaction with Emperor's Imperial Vestment (which is itself capped by Storm Shield at 6+GRIT OS), depends on the context.

If the Emperor targets themselves and someone else with Twinning Vestment, and the other target takes damage, then I think Imperial Vestment clearly triggers ("If the Emperor gains OVERSHIELD from any source... it increases its current OVERSHIELD by that amount instead of replacing it."), though still capped at 6+GRIT, so still only tops them off, not increasing their max, which I think is reasonable.

As for Sympathetic Twinning's phrasing regarding "...the other character **gains **4 Overshield" vs. the Emperor's Imperial Vestment's "Whenever the Emperor **grants **OVERSHIELD to another character, it gains the same amount of OVERSHIELD" up to the 6+GRIT cap, I think we have to look at the Emperor's OS-'granting' abilities to compare.

  1. *Marathon Arc Bow: *"Allied characters... **have any OS supercharged, increasing it **by +4... If they have no OS, they instead **gain **OS 2."
  2. All of the Emperor's LL Systems (Dominion's Breadth, Shahnameh, Walk of Kings): "A[n allied] mech character within Sensors and LoS **gains **OS 1."

(cont.)

lapis anvil
# lapis anvil So, I think the Sympathetic Twinning interaction with Emperor's Imperial Vestmen...

So, Sympathetic Twinning uses the same "gains" verbage. I guess the question is how the Emperor's "grants" verbage interacts with those "gains." For the Emperor's Systems, the Emperor uses a Quick Tech Action to I suppose 'grant' OS to others actively.

I certainly see a strong case *against *Sympathetic Twinning triggering Imperial Vestments when one of two targets chosen by the Emperor other than itself if we interpret that the term "grants" refers to a mech's Action or Reaction, and not a passive effect separate from the mech, even if the passive effect was itself 'granted' by a mech. I think this would also be the same if the Emperor chose itself and another target for Sympathetic Twinning, and the Emperor takes damage, the other target gaining OS similarly *wouldn't *trigger Imperial Vestments as the OS isn't directly or actively 'granted' by the Emperor, but by a passive effect they created.

I think these conversations are similar to those around 'preventing damage' for things like House Guard III. Hopefully, with the new core book print, we'll get some clearer wording and rules addenda to help use as guidelines. As far as balance, I think ruling that Sympathetic Twinning only triggers Imperial Vestments in the case that 1) the Emperor is one of the targets and 2) the other target takes damage, not the Emperor, is both in keeping with interpretations for similar situations/interactions and reasonably balanced.

What do y'all think?

dim topaz
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i think that makes sense? with the way everything is currently worded, it doesn't sound like the Emperor would gain the OS from Sympathetic Twinning if its not one of the 2 targets.
and if it is one of the targets, i feel like it would get the OS as if it was any other mech getting Twinning

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but since it was a question brought up, it makes sense to at least test it.

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but i do think you are correct overall

vocal ridge
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Hopefully, with the new core book print, we'll get some clearer wording and rules addenda to help use as guidelines.
Don't hold your breath on that. The new printing has been confirmed to be the same as the existing one. Any errata doc would be separate.

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(Also, I have been working on sketching up some different techs to replace the Psyche's problem children with. So, look forwards to those being tossed in here in the coming... idk. Just as possibilities.)

solemn crypt
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been experimenting with NPCs and templates again. While it's technically against the rules, putting the knight template on a basic human should lead to some interesting effects.
I intend to have a good few of these 'knights' running around the battlefield, alongside some standard squads and, bombards and seeders for that classic 'war game army' feel.

lapis anvil
twilit ether
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The Aphrodite's AoE weapons have Seeking as long as at least one of the targets is the farthest from it right?

vocal ridge
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The intention is, it'll only affect the one character, even with AoEs. So you could ignore LOS/cover for them only - everyone else would be blocked as normal.

twilit ether
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Ah damn, so it'll only attack that one single character?

vocal ridge
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Yeah.

twilit ether
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Welp

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Thanks anyhow

fast patio
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On that subject I've been looking at the Sloth and wondering how to play it. You guys got any tips?

dim topaz
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Well I can tell you that one of the other players in a game I'm in has been using the sloth and uh, it's not been really useful?
He spent and entire combat doing nothing, literally nothing because the map was long and couldn't get to any of the enemies

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Not an expert on it by any means, just from what I've seen you'd want to either have something that moves enemies closer or someone on your team who can

fast patio
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Yeah I was looking at it and the first thought I had was either an immovable arty build of one form or another or go full in on it with a teammate and womb combo

vocal ridge
fast patio
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Well crap...

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One second

vocal ridge
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Hahaha, all good.

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Just, I don't think you'll be getting very many applicable answers on it here.

dim topaz
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Ope totally didn't think about that not being Iridia 😅

vocal ridge
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The true hazard of mixing homebrew.

fast patio
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Gotta love potato wifi.
That also being said I got someone looking at the Castilla any thoughts?

vocal ridge
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My thoughts are that I would very much appreciate data on the new version, because it hasn't actually been tested as-is. 😛

fast patio
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You mean the one with the monster cone of super burn yeah?

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I mean.....it becomes exposed but blasts out a huge amount of burn yeah?

vocal ridge
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Yeah. That's the big thing, but also just if the frame itself feels decent to play with the stats and traits that it has.

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(Also, it can be a burst instead of a Cone!)

fast patio
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Hmmmm.....now that you mention that tidbit I think it'll be fun to see as the person trying it normal pilots a manticore. I'll let you know what they think

vocal ridge
dim topaz
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Are you getting rid of Sympathetic Twinning then?

vocal ridge
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If I go through with this, yeah. It's just been a headache the entire time I've tried to make it work. All of the techs, really, are a little too complex for their own good.

dim topaz
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Mm I can understand that. It's clear on its own, but when used with some mechs it brings up issues

vocal ridge
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(And this is after having tweaked the techs, like, a dozen times between the three of them. Half of those just being Twinning.)

dim topaz
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Oof
It's too bad tho, that Twinning would have been really useful in my current game

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Not a lot of systems give 4 OS. Most of it is like 2

vocal ridge
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I mean, most OS-giving systems are 4+Grit.

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But, yeah, it could be... a lot. And I think the amount of times I had to kneecap it to try and keep from being too much was just... indicative of it being fundamentally flawed.

dim topaz
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That's totally fair
I will say, it's good to know you're planning on getting rid of it before I try to get it with a power at a cost 😂

twilit ether
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Noooo Structural Entabglement 😭

vocal ridge
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Sorry to disappoint y'all.

twilit ether
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Panacea seems fun though

warped rivet
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not sure if you've updated/corrected it since then data, but the mariner template's non-breaching shotgun is missing its accuracy bonus in the LCP

vocal ridge
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Ah, thanks. I'll make a note to fix that.

vocal ridge
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Oh phew. Changing the Psyche stuff in the PDF does not make it all fit on one page now. Still two. That'll make updating way quicker - I don't need to delete all the page numbers and put them back in on the correct side, or change the table of contents and the manual hyperlinks there.

surreal garden
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question, is there a google doc for all of the frames added in Field Guide to Iridia?

polar lotus
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Like the pdf on the Itch page?

surreal garden
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yeah

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im mostly just asking so I could view it without having to download something

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ive already downloaded a lot of LCPs

vocal ridge
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There's a PDF for all the playerside content, but I'm afraid that there's no google doc anymore. It was getting too big to handle, and it would mean maintaining a lot of other stuff.

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But, yes, the PDF was made specifically because I hate having to use comp/con to look through stuff - I want it solely to make my building easier, not have to look through menus to find what's added.

vocal ridge
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Now hopefully that's everything, and I don't need to worry about touching this finnicky file ever again. 😛

kindred comet
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Don't jinx it!

twilit ether
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Hey Data, you got a clean image of Iris Locus?

vocal ridge
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I mean, I've got the one in the book.

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Why?

twilit ether
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Thank ye

twilit ether
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I think it's pretty easy to guess haha

vocal ridge
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Token?

twilit ether
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Points at purple name role

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I'm planning on drawing it haha

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Keyword, planning, though I don't think anything's gonna come up, but still

vocal ridge
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Ah, gotcha.

twilit ether
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I was originally planning on drawing the Hecate, what with its dimension shifting abilities being good opportunities to do funky stuff with lighting/perspective/etc. but I had too many different ideas on how to do it so I just went "Ah fuck it I'll draw the gun crab"

vocal ridge
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Oh no, too many ideas. What a shame. 😛

twilit ether
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Literally lol, I had to stop myself because I was being pulled in too many directions all at once, ideas of the Hecate standing out of frame, breaking the fourth wall, changing art styles, etc.

vocal ridge
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Just do multiple Hecates, obviously. /s

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(Though, I think you may be thinking of a different mech? Ananke, perhaps? Or Hemera? Since Hecate is just EMP, the mech.)

twilit ether
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Oh

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Hemera, I meant Hemera

vocal ridge
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Gotcha. 😛

twilit ether
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Tbf to me the name of the goddess of magic fits the dimension bending mech haha

vocal ridge
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That's fair. The Hemera was named back when I was trying to use more minor names, as opposed to just always going for the super recognizable ones. Whereas the Hecate was almost the last one named.

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(I think only Hera and Aphrodite were afterwards? Oh, and Selene.)

twilit ether
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Ohhh I see I see

vocal ridge
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Yep. Behind the scenes on my arcane naming preferences. 😛

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It was interesting scouring for names that a) were girls, 2) felt like they at least vaguely fit, and iii) weren't part of, like, a grouping (such as seasons or muses).

twilit ether
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Yeah I can tell, that was like, what? 15 mechs worth of names?

twilit ether
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vivid granite
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oh i like the new psyche stuff a lot

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simple but effective!

weary grove
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Panacea is wickedly powerful on a loader ally! makes me wanna whip out the AMR again lmao

vivid granite
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oh, also: pilot gear/weapons/armor also had tags added for them in the most recent comp/con update (specifically tg_gear, tg_pilot_weapon, and tg_personal_armor) and had an effect field added so its possible to separate mechanical stuff from description

all of these changes are moreso organizational, and also optional to my knowledge? but figured i would mention in case you hadn't seen that they were added, since i notice they're not in 1.2.0 (and sorry if this is inappropriate to mention... i only see things about the lcp because my playgroup has an uncle-ish bot that also does player-side homebrew)

twilit ether
vocal ridge
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Also, glad that there's at least some people excited about the Psyche changes. 😛

hexed narwhal
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You do great work, so yes

vocal ridge
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I meant because it's definitely a lot less... experimental than the original techs.

dim topaz
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While I'm a bit sad I never got to try out Sympathetic Twinning, I do like what it got replaced with

vocal ridge
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Sorry to disappoint. It was my white whale. 😔

indigo imp
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Ultra Angels are Pretty Nasty, it turns out - proccing Deadly off multiple hits of a Wingblades + Stormblade barrage can really add up

vocal ridge
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Yeah, I heard that from Spicy. 😛

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I plead innocent to the decision to put a 3rd attack on something with Deadly, though!

indigo imp
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The players came in already very worn down, so they weren't in the best position to start with - if the fight hadn't ended by unrelated narrative decision before then, I do think they had a decent shot at destroying the Angel by the end, if cutting it very close and with the Angel poised to potentially take down their last striker

indigo imp
vocal ridge
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I do admit that I overlooked the potentially doubling up on deadly at T1, though. Since - unlike the Breacher - it has an actual chance to crit with its double-attack weapon.

vocal ridge
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Especially because Melee attackers have a harder time spreading out damage.

indigo imp
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Yeah, I do wonder if the Accuracy at T1 might be a bit much? It's not, like, utterly overwhelming, I think, but it definitely made the Ultra Angel into a crit machine at several points

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Didn't help he recharged Swoop like three times in a row

vocal ridge
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The big problem is that the accuracy has been fine... when it's not doubling up on deadly. Because it's about the same damage as a Ronin (though falling more prey to armour), with the same accuracy... but it always keeps the same chance for 2 crits, as opposed to 1/2/3.

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It's a conundrum. I'll need to ponder on if there's a solution to this that doesn't nerf a non-Deadly or higher-tier version too much, or if it'll just be one of those slightly problematic early LL Ultras.

vocal ridge
indigo imp
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Yeah, it's tricky - like I said, I do think the main reason it ended up being as brutal as it was came down to the PCs both being worn down from three previous combats, and being unable to take a proper rest due to losing the previous combat (instead having to take a partial rest where they could only pick one thing to repair)

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In more ideal circumstances, it would have been deadly, but the PCs would have had more opportunity to take it down

vocal ridge
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In other words, homebrew broken, do not use. protonSip

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Angel too heavenly. 😔

indigo imp
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It's a very fun NPC, don't regret using it at all - it's a great striker

vocal ridge
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I'll admit that it took a bit to feel like it was in a decently balanced space - had to variously nerf damage and movement capabilities.

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(Less tweaking needing than the Fusillade, though. Man, was that one a pain to actually make correctly threatening.)

vocal ridge
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I do want to say, incidentally, that I really do appreciate the comments on things. There's only so many iterations of stuff that I was able to test in my own games, and Lancer thrives on the potential combining stuff enables.

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Also, particularly selfishly, it just warms a creator's heart to know that something they've made is seeing use.

indigo imp
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I'm happy to use it! It's good stuff

vocal ridge
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Oh no, now I have expectations to live up to for my next thing.

hexed narwhal
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Just make something you like, you'll be fine!

vocal ridge
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Well, I'm trying. 😛

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I've got next week off, so I'm hoping to get some more work on the non-mech stuff for the Stellar Codex while I have free time. I have... like three different tables half-started, and also have another 20% or so left on Terrain effects.

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...also maybe I'll come up with some additional effects for the Paradox template. I've been feeling like 10 isn't quite enough. Like, Veterans have about 20 options, and this is kinda intended to be in that sort of modular space. We'll see if I can come up with more Weird™️ effects. (Alas, the Parafauna ate a bunch of them.)

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Besides, I still have, like, half a page empty in the template section of the PDF. Why not fill that?

twilit ether
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So I've started drawing the Locus and, let me tell ya, trying to draw an extremely complex design in a funky perspective(because I hate myself) is painful 😭

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This alone took me 3 and a half hours, hopefully I'll be able to finish it tomorrow

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twilit ether
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Ok version with way better perspective now, made the upper body way too small

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vocal ridge
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Oh, that's super cool!

twilit ether
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Thank you!

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It's just the default art pose but with a looking-up perspective instead

twilit ether
vocal ridge
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I'm not really an art critic, sorry. Most of my thoughts can be boiled down to "that's cool!" 😛

twilit ether
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I more meant in comparison to the actual art haha

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Like details n whatnot

vocal ridge
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I mean... I really don't know what I can say, besides that it all looks really cool. And that you've done a good job with it. I'm sorry that I don't really know any other thing to say that may be helpful in this regard.

twilit ether
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Ah it's fine it's fine!

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Hopefully I'll be able to finish it tomorrow though

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This is Ru's mech right?

twilit ether
vocal ridge
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Yes, as much as she complained to me about being the Scan mech. 😛
(Which it is now, admittedly, a lot less. But I don't think she forgives me, regardless.)
Isn't that right, @grim pasture?

grim pasture
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I make it a policy to not forgive people

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But even if I didn't, I wouldn't forgive this

vocal ridge
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😔

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I suppose I shall have to forever fear the dagger in my back, or somesuch.

grim pasture
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Everyone else got cool mechs that perfectly suited their character and playstyle, but noooooo

twilit ether
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Oh hey Ru haha

vocal ridge
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...Ru, I had no idea what I was doing with the Muse/Ersa. If that was perfectly suiting, it was entirely by accident. 😛

grim pasture
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Okay true

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Two out of four got mechs that perfectly suited their playstyle!

twilit ether
vocal ridge
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But also, it was funny to give you the scan mech. protonSip

grim pasture
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💢

vocal ridge
grim pasture
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Also, I'll have you know all of her information was 100% correct, blood magic does solve all problems

grim pasture
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(If thou'rt looking for advice/critiques, #the-gallery might have more)

vocal ridge
twilit ether
grim pasture
vocal ridge
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I don't think she would want to be called the owner of a scan mech. 😛

grim pasture
vocal ridge
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(And it's not like it was visually based off of any of her mechs, anyways. Not enough fractal blood magic nanite drones. 😛 )

twilit ether
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An "oh neat" would do wonders to my ego

grim pasture
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My thoughts are "oh, neat!", and that's about it

twilit ether
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Yay!

vocal ridge
grim pasture
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Yeah lol

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Listen! My default state is forgetting that physical form and appearance are, like, things that exist

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I float through a realm of concept and bitterness

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I blame needing glasses at a young age

vocal ridge
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Ah, another one in the young glasses club.

vocal ridge
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Throwing around more Paradox Traits.

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vocal ridge
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Aaaaand more. That rounds things up to 20 traits.

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Which is a number I'm a lot happier with.

polar lotus
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Total Inversion is a fun one

vocal ridge
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It's really a continuation of the Inverted Presence base feature.

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(But, yes, it's something I really do like, conceptually. I also used it for the metalmark alt.)

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twilit ether
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I've done it, I cooked

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regal dirge
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That's amazing, nicely done!

twilit ether
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Thank you!

twilit ether
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Heya @grim pasture this your ride?

vocal ridge
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Oh, that looks amazing!

twilit ether
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Thank you!

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Was wondering when you'd get back online haha

vocal ridge
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I live on the west coast of North America, so it's not even 9am for me yet. 😛

twilit ether
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Huh, really? I usually see you online like most of the day on my part

vocal ridge
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This is actually early for me to be up on a Saturday.

twilit ether
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Do you just wake up super early most days

vocal ridge
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I wake up around 6 on workdays.

twilit ether
twilit ether
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But huh, interesting, I really thought you were closer than the literal other side of the world lmao

vocal ridge
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Yeah, nope. I live at the edge of things. Besides, like, Alaska and Hawaii and whatnot. 😛

vocal ridge
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Ah, much happier with the Paradox. It now takes up two pages in the PDF, which feels appropriate. Don't have that awkward extra half-page+ of empty space.

twilit ether
grim pasture
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I saw

twilit ether
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Damn, got left on read 😔

vocal ridge
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She mentioned before, she's not really an art person (or a mech person). 😛

twilit ether
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I mean, yeah true, but it still doesn't feel all that great to show something off to someone and not even get a response 😭

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Especially if it's also partially a gift to them

grim pasture
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As I said, and as Data said I said, I'm really not someone to go to for that sort of thing

twilit ether
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I mean, I'm not looking for art advice, I just want to know if you at least like it

grim pasture
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Right. As I said. I'm not really much for visual art

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I do not have any particular thoughts or reactions to it

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I am not someone to go to for this sort of thing

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Please stop pushing me about this

twilit ether
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Alright, fair enough, sorry

kindred crow
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Boop

vocal ridge
kindred crow
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On a first read it feels like the mech is just a support mech that has artillery stuff in its licenses and not a mech that focuses on support and artillery

polar lotus
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even in the core book it's a rare mech that focuses on artillery in a way other than its licenses

vocal ridge
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Artillery/Support is, unfortunately, a difficult line to tread. Especially because the Emperor already took the easiest way to do it.

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But I wanted to try.

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But also, yeah, Artillery mechs usually end up being "I have a heavy slot and long-range guns in my license."

kindred crow
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Ohh I see

vocal ridge
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Yeah, it's a bit of a weird quirk of design.

kindred crow
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I'm gonna try to make a character w this

vocal ridge
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Always happy to see those!

kindred crow
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-- IRIDIA Epione @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
IRIDIA Epione 3, SSC Black Witch 1, SSC Emperor 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Resonant Armaments, Neurolink Targeting
[ TALENTS ]
Walking Armory 3, Crack Shot 3, Nuclear Cavalier 2, Devout 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
STRUCTURE:4 HP:19 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:6
TECH ATK:-1 LIMITED:+2
SPD:3 EVA:7 EDEF:8 SENSE:15 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
MAIN MOUNT: Magnetic Cannon
MAIN MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
HEAVY MOUNT: Prism Refractor (Glacis Payload)
[ SYSTEMS ]
The Imperial Eye, Recall Gate x4, Dominion's Breadth

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Wait

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Actually

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Magnetic cannon isn't a rifle oops

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Oh right I just have no better options

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Yeah this is the final build

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Walking armory to supplement ranged, took magnetic cannon instead of the main launcher cuz I dislike ordnance lol, also cuz line can be used for the mechs support stuff

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Crack shot for the superheavy

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Also took emperor for the overshield

vocal ridge
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Ah, the good 'ol Emp synergy.

kindred crow
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Yeah I saw that but wanted to use something else alongside it to not be basic lol

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So I honed into the rifle and tried to make it funnier

vocal ridge
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I will say that Resonant Armaments is probably not a great combo to use with Crack Shot.

kindred crow
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Why?

vocal ridge
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Crack shot immobilizes. Resonant Armaments moves.

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So you can only take advantage of it on non-crack shot turns.

kindred crow
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Crack shot doesn't only immobilize right?

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I was looking at it for body shot

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Honestly I didn't have many options for ranged lol

chilly jewel
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Crack Shot immobilizes you.

vocal ridge
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To use any of the further ranks, you need to use the protocol from Rank 1, which immobilizes you.

kindred crow
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Ohhhhhhhhhh

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Ouch

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Yikes

vocal ridge
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It's powerful, but at a heavy cost.

kindred crow
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-- IRIDIA Epione @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
IRIDIA Epione 3, SSC Emperor 1, SSC Metalmark 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Neurolink Targeting, Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ TALENTS ]
Walking Armory 3, Crack Shot 3, Nuclear Cavalier 2, Devout 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
STRUCTURE:4 HP:19 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:6
TECH ATK:-1 LIMITED:+2
SPD:3 EVA:7 EDEF:8 SENSE:15 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
MAIN MOUNT: Rail Rifle
MAIN MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
HEAVY MOUNT: Prism Refractor (Glacis Payload) // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
Recall Gate x4, Sanctuary Drone, Dominion's Breadth

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Moved stuff around

vocal ridge
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I'm surprised about combining AutoStabs with Crack Shot. I guess that does negate the difficulty on the one shot, but it feels a bit... pointless on any other target. Especially on the Prism Refractor, which is Seeking - so you don't need to worry about cover (the most common form of external difficulty).

twilit ether
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Also Neurolink?

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Line weapons don't benefit from that

vocal ridge
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Oh, yeah, I missed that was still in. Because.. yeah, both weapons are lines.

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And Line doesn't benefit from +Range, since it's Line, not Range.

twilit ether
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Oh right, this is like the only Line weapon that can self-target

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vocal ridge
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Yeah, because you could bend it back on yourself if you wanted to. For some reason. I guess if a bunch of guys were behind you, too? Idk.

twilit ether
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Certainly a choice if you want to do it haha

vocal ridge
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But it was just a funny visual that made me giggle.

kindred crow
vocal ridge
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Yep.

kindred crow
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😭

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Damn

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I'll redo it soon then

vocal ridge
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(Page 64 of core.)

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kindred crow
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Unfortunate

kindred crow
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Can I just say

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This superheavy

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Was the most frustrating thing to draw

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LOL

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I reset like 7 times before going "ah fuck it" and simplified to hell and it doesn't look right but idc 😭

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I speedrqn everything else in 10 mins

vocal ridge
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...is that a fist at the end of the laser?

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I really hope so.

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Oh, wait, I see how it is now. Gotcha. Second dude in front, getting the arm zorched off.

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I am bad at visual comprehension sometimes. 😛

kindred crow
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No that's just a skill issue from me

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I will do better but my setup is zonked rn lmao

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I'm dedicating myself to keep on drawing tho cuz I do wanna improve and if j have to do it in the most scuffed of setups so be it

vocal ridge
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I mean, it's way better than I could do. Any of my drawings would just be literal stick figures. 😛

twilit ether
kindred crow
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Indomitable human spirit vs 3 inch drawing area

twilit ether
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One must imagine Sisyphus making art

kindred crow
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Sisyphus??? Lancer reference???

twilit ether
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"Look at this cool drawing I made, ha ha.

kindred crow
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"I know what happens when you CTRL+Z...

twilit ether
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How does Dispel Protection and Huntress Bow interact with Eye of Horus or Iris when targetting an already Hidden character? They're already Hidden so, do they just continue being Hidden?

vocal ridge
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Correct, if you have some way to target a Hidden character, it doesn't clear Hidden.

twilit ether
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Darn, alrighty, thanks

vocal ridge
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I mean, look at how many people get confused at Last Argument of Kings having the heat clause. What do you think would happen if any of those things had a clear hidden clause? 😛

twilit ether
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Ok fair lol

kindred crow
vocal ridge
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Ooh!

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Super cool.

vivid granite
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rules question: if a firebug is under the effects of Reverie (from phane's Temporal Memoria system), since a majority of their techs say they target "a character", does that mean they can still use them on hostiles? my reading of this is yes but i want to make sure that's the intention

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(specifically wondering about using Manipulate Flames to move burn from an ally to an enemy, in this case)

vocal ridge
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Yes, things that just say a character aren't affected.

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It's for things like razor swarms, or seeder mines, or whatever.

vivid granite
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ah, so it does trigger on things that are technically controlled by a character but their own thing? since i think razor swarms are a drone, aren't they?

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if you invade the hive, meaning

vocal ridge
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(There's a reason it's only a 1 SP system.)

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Razor swarms should count. They're not a character by any reasonable metric, and literally just have the Drone tag so Hydra can do Hydra things to it.

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You can't interact with them in any meaningful way, they're part of the Hive. 😛

vivid granite
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gotcha! just to clarify a little more since there's also a barricade with a titan-snare drone down; would it work for that if they target the barricade, since it can be attacked/etc on its own?

vocal ridge
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Personally I'd say it'd count for all a target's stuff, including Drones (since it's pretty situational of a tech), but I can see a GM ruling otherwise.

vivid granite
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hell yeah

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thank you for the clarification!

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(also, yes, i'm in the midst of running that combat i mentioned a while back. we're going to start round 4 once i finish these npc turns gremlin )

vocal ridge
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Np, happy to help.

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(I do see the Phane continues to be the breakout Frame for the Field Guide. 😛 )

vivid granite
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the phane is cool!

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@weary grove is playing a calendula with minotaur 2 phane 1

vocal ridge
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Yeah, I think I blew all of my "this is the coolest" budget on the timeshifting rock frame. 😛

weary grove
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yes!! I love it

vocal ridge
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Always glad to hear that!

twilit ether
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Uh, is Fate's Arrow supposed to count allied characters

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Cuz as currently worded if an allied character is farther than any hostile character the Seeking applies to attacks against them instead

vocal ridge
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Ah, no, it should be hostile characters. I'll make a note to add that to the List™️.

vocal ridge
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Well, this week was more productive than I'd hoped. Managed to get 80 things added to various random tables for SC.

polar lotus
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very nice!

vocal ridge
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Still have a couple more sections to get through (finishing up the Terrain section, plus writing a selection of Hooks), but I'm a lot happier with the amount of content that I'm looking to have so far, on the GM-side.

kindred crow
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nice!

vocal ridge
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(There are some things that are just extremely silly.)

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kindred comet
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...I now choose to believe restock drones store their raw materials in the shape of toast, playing into the "mech snack" angle. One step further along the endeavor to bring the MechMuffin into the universe, making "mechfast" refer to something on the Lancaster other than its speed.

vocal ridge
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Hah.

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(This is also an in-joke based on the current Wyrdwood Wand game I'm playing in, where we have a magic toaster that can toast anything. And therefore have attempted to toast everything. Including things like seawater, canned wine, and fire.)

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More groups need to be able to have the utter distraction of "but what if we put this in the toaster???"

twilit ether
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Including the can or just the wine

vocal ridge
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Including the can.

twilit ether
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I don't know if that makes it better or worse

kindred comet
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It does. Which, I'm not sure.

vocal ridge
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It's a bunch of college-age wizards. So you get the sense (or, rather, lack thereof) of both college students and wizards.

twilit ether
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Also hold on people put wine in cans??

vocal ridge
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Sure. People also put milk in bags.

twilit ether
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Touche

vocal ridge
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But yes. The most important part is now Lancer parties can now toast all sort of weird things too. 😛

twilit ether
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Truly essential to the plot of all kinds of stories

limber wedge
vocal ridge
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No idea. It's an eastern Canada thing. There was a practical reason for it, I just can never remember it.

twilit ether
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Yep, Canadian thing so I've heard

open rock
night vector
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hey, I'm trying to write my own iridian frame, because I saw an art that gave me a mech idea, and Demonworks was the manufacturer that felt most likely to make it and I was really sick of writing horus mechs.
I hit a little snag in that the player-facing pdf doesn't actually name a single iridian character, so I have no idea what sort of naming conventions to use for the hapless engineer that made it? what kinda cultural vibe am I looking for here? :)

vocal ridge
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Iridian names are... well, it could really be any kind of first names, but I went entirely with Greek-originating first names to fit the pattern that I apparently went with.

And then last names lean heavily into that fantasy stereotype, using natural things (sometimes modified by other verbs) - some of the canonical ones in the book are Snow, Mistflower, and Eclipse.

Or for the Noble Houses, the last names are their House name, like Panacea, Decorum, or Verity. (I've even specifically said in the creating your own house section, that the more pretentious sounding the word is, the better.)

(I will admit that it does feel a bit weird to have homebrew made for my homebrew.)

night vector
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cool, thank you!
I hope its not a bad weird. it's a really cool supplement, with basically no issues, I love it? no hesitation in adding it to my personal lancer canon

vocal ridge
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I'm glad! Always nice to learn people like the stuff I've wrote. Just remember, if you get the full book, you get something like 60 extra pages of lore and short fluff stories and stuff like that. Plus GM content.

Doing a personal homebrew is fine, just... don't add a Demonworks frame to something you're planning to put on itch or something like that. 😛

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(I'd like to think there's some fun stuff for players in the full version, too. Like a chart of trinkets, or a list of ways you might obtain a Demonworks mech. That table was one of the most fun ones because of how weird it could be.)

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night vector
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I would Love to buy the full version as soon as I have spare money. :)
(that's just a very load bearing "as soon as".)

obv I wouldn't try to sell it, that wouldn't be fair to you.

would you want me to send you a link to look at it when it's done? no's fine but it'd feel weird not to offer

vocal ridge
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Yeah, no worries on that - I never want anyone to get something they can't afford. (In an ideal world, I'd be able to just release it for free, but unfortunately, it's not an ideal world. :/ )

And, yeah, feel free to drop it in the thread here!

night vector
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:)

limber wedge
vocal ridge
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Anything is possible if you put your mind to it.

vocal ridge
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Another Aunic frame from @frail mountain: The Onyx, a supportive Sherman-alt.

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polar lotus
vocal ridge
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Guns of all sizes for all occasions.

twilit ether
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YOOOOOOOO

vocal ridge
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Hmm, the scale of the mechs so far doesn't really hit as much without any of the 1/2s in the mix. 😛

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polar lotus
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still extremely rad tho

vocal ridge
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It has been a struggle to try and make sure every frame's colours tells a reasonable story.

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(The colours of the frame glow are cheating, and are just matching the name to give diversity.)

twilit ether
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Oh I did not realize the Cerise and Azure were size 2

balmy vigilBOT
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I'm excited to see what an Ofanim "officer and gentleman's" mech would be.

vocal ridge
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No guarantee every colour will be used. 😛

balmy vigilBOT
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I might take that idea and run with it, we'll have to see how flittish my flame is.

vocal ridge
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I know I've tried to hold back on asking for too much gold or silver, because the mechs in Iridia used a lot. So the Azure is probably going to be the only one that ends up with gold.

twilit ether
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Which ones remain again?

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Only 4 left?

vocal ridge
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Yep. Cerulean, Sable, Viridian and Ochre.
(So, Drake, White Witch, Goblin, and Iskander.)

twilit ether
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Heck yeah, very excited

left meadow
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Today i work on truly pushing the limit on what is an okay amount of weapons, and an okay amount of cross third party content

Unicorn + New Wild West + Legionnaire allows for. A mech with 8 mounts.

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(There's also a bit of suldan in there but is not required for the 3 integrateds, thats just a couple of the weapons)

vocal ridge
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Really, no Fuel Rod Gun? 😛

left meadow
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Okay so, if someone wanted to also slap on fuel rod gun

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A bit of context behind this build:
This lancer would be built with the same starting benefits I gave the players, and is assuming Pilot level 5 (Meaning its a level 5 lancer with 2 bonus liscence levels)

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At level 6, LL8, the build could choose to drop the 2 talent levels in walking armory, and put 3 levels in nuclear cavalier

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Or you could i guess, at this level, do 1 less level engineer, drop the 2 in armory , for 3 in nuclear

vocal ridge
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Is the Core Bonus the integrated Aux?

left meadow
vocal ridge
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Ahhhh, that's a CB, not a talent. Got it. (And there's never a need to ping me in this chat specifically, I check it frequently. 😛 )

left meadow
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Oops! Forgot to unping, sorry

left meadow
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Which felt. Very very pegasus/unicorn fitting

vivid granite
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oh, a question that came up earlier in my game: for hemera's Emergency Shunt system, is the effect all or nothing? IE can you teleport 0-2 spaces and still become invisible until the end of your next turn, you are you required to teleport exactly 3 spaces in order to be able to use it?

vocal ridge
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It requires exactly 3 spaces.

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(There are some things that specify an exact distance, rather than 'up to'.)

vivid granite
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gotcha! thank you!

vocal ridge
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From a design standpoint, I find it an interesting mechanical space to explore - it often requires you to weigh choices a bit more (and can get a bit more budget out of the constraint).

solid portal
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first time running a living battlefield fight soon, any advice for core npcs to run with it? would be part of a 3 phrase final boss fight so want a sufficently epic fight

vocal ridge
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Not really anything in particular - it especially depends on what optionals it has for what can benefit most. Probably a good idea to have some at least semi-mobile DPS around, though, to be able to put pressure on the PCs even while out of reach of the nodes.

solid portal
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optionals i have are...Ley Lines, Fey Realm, Chain Lightning, Resurrection

vocal ridge
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Ley Lines/Fey Realm feels like it could get really mean with something like a Demolisher hanging around the Nodes.

solid portal
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i like it...

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okay i got a really cool idea

vocal ridge
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And then resurrect it when destroyed.

solid portal
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this plays into my campaign i think

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might be a bit too dmg heavy but fuck it

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demolisher, witch, and ronin

indigo imp
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Is the Chameleon's Data Bomb supposed to have no Recharge, Limited or 1/x restrictions? It doesn't list any of those tags in the LCP, just Mine and Quick Action, so I just want to make sure if this is intentional or not.

vocal ridge
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Correct, it's something it can do every turn. (Or, I suppose, twice a turn with Overcharge.)

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It's basically just... delaying a quick tech with it.

indigo imp
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Cool cool, just confirming

vocal ridge
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I get it, there's really not a lot of other mines to compare to.

vivid granite
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another rules clarification question -- does the firebug's Conflagration Reactor optional also prevent clearing burn via stabilize? or is it solely for the check at the end of the turn?

vocal ridge
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The intent is you cannot clear it in any way - the clarification is just there for how the EoT check works.

vivid granite
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got it! thanks!

balmy vigilBOT
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It took over a week, but hey, I got out the other side! Won't post it here unless DataMoth says I can, since it's not my channel.

Josie | System at 63 ↩️

[Reply to:](#1057844754550886511 message) I might take that idea and run with it, we'll have to see how flittish my flame is.

vocal ridge
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Sorry, what did you make?

balmy vigilBOT
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I made an "officer" frame, inspired by the Ofanim's Gold frame maybe existing.

vocal ridge
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Ah, gotcha. Yeah, that would probably be best for in the homebrew channel.

balmy vigilBOT
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Yeah. Just also wanted to give an update on that. Always loving Iridia! :D

vocal ridge
night vector
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the Iridia Arachne; it was designed around the art, but I tried really hard to make it live up to the incredible lore of Iridia, I hope you like it

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link should go to the right tab

vocal ridge
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Interesting! I will note, though, that there is already a spider frame in the Persephone. I always have a soft spot for spidermechs, but it's not entirely unique. 😛

night vector
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oooh, interesting! I'd been reading the persephone as more of a scorpion or a beetle or some such, my bad :O

vocal ridge
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I mean, it's just as valid to read it as a beetle! It was mostly just poking fun at the fact that there're already multi-legged frames that exist. (And in a more spider-y form than the dragon-shaped one.)

kindred comet
vocal ridge
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I mean, that seems at least plausibly accurate. A lot of the factions are left a little bit more ambiguous. (For instance, Iridia isn't - strictly speaking - part of Union at the moment. In all likelihood it will be eventually, but it's in a very volatile state right now.)

kindred comet
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Ooh, excuse to use the term de jure....

vocal ridge
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I am currently doing a review and revamp of all the Demonworks Core Bonuses, because... honestly, a lot of them are pretty underwhelming.

Most of the reactive ones (that require something bad to happen to you) are getting axed, the 3 that I'm keeping are getting buffed to varying degrees, and I'm working on drafting some entirely new ones.

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vivid granite
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ohh, is angelic intercession changing/getting removed? that's the one my hemera player is running right now

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i like the looks of holy warden a lot!

vocal ridge
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How has Intercession been working out? I haven't really heard any feedback on it.

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I'll admit, that's one I was on the edge about (since allies structuring does happen decently often), but it felt like it ended up a bit in a similar place to the Devout talent-line.

vocal ridge
vivid granite
vocal ridge
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Reactive stuff is always hard, because it needs to compete with things you can actively pull off on each turn (hi OpCal), or that just... passively boost your stats and stuff.

vivid granite
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yeah, i understand x_x

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looking things over, 3 other PCs have taken structure, but angelic intercession has only been used once. which i genuinely believe to be 90% due to just not remembering it (oops, i've actually been forgetting npc stuff that happens on player turns too...). the time it Has been used, it's protected the party's sunzi from two hits from a berserker because of there being a new target in the way to hit instead. and the other berserker that's grappling the sunzi and originally structured her hasn't gone yet this round, so they'll be taking the difficulty from hemera's presence to attack the sunzi

that being said, in my opinion as the GM it feels a little underwhelming. the movement utility is genuinely great (teleport up to 10!), and the little bit of overshield is a nice bonus, but just from the perspective of the impact that core bonuses can have it feels like it would have to proc consistently every combat to feel worth it in comparison to others

vocal ridge
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Yeah, that was pretty much my thinking.

twilit ether
vocal ridge
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The Hemera is pretty much the one who can make the most use out of it because of its aura, so it feels like it's be a lot less useful on anything else.

vivid granite
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yeah, that makes sense

vocal ridge
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(They're all getting a bit of a buff, though.)

twilit ether
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Ah alright

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And the GMS ones too?

vocal ridge
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Oh, GMS ones are staying. This is only the Demonworks ones.

twilit ether
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Gotcha

vocal ridge
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The GMS ones were a lot more cohesive because... well, they came from ideas I thought could be neat, rather than trying to fill an obligation.

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(And I didn't feel like I had to try and make them fit thematically or anything.)

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I'm definitely a lot happier with the cohesion of this new set. (Plus, it let me pseudo-bring back the absolutely broken Epione mod that let you not target an ally with your AoE!)

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God, that one was an absolute nightmare when combined with Annihilation Nexus.

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"Effectively Friendly Annihilation Nexus attacks? I don't see the problem here!"

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(Fortunately that led to a massive revamp of that license.)

twilit ether
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Cohesion as in theming right?

vocal ridge
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Yeah.

twilit ether
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I guess the theming is more support-orriented CBs?

vocal ridge
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There's a much larger theme now of tactical positioning and ally support.

twilit ether
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Ah yeah

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And then there's Shimmering Barrier but all corps deserve an outlier or two :P

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Oh right, Shimmering Barrier knocks characters back

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I forgot about that part

vocal ridge
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Gift of Healing is getting a boost to let it heal allies within 3, Shimmering Barrier is letting you not trigger reactions this turn in addition to the push, and and Unity of Purpose is getting a 1/scene free action Bolster.

twilit ether
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Ooooh spicy

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I like it!

vocal ridge
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I mean, they have to compete with some frankly bonkers CB options. ...and if any of them end up becoming too build centralizing, well, I'll eat my hat and then give any necessary nerfs. 😛

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I'm glad that people seem to like some of these. I definitely felt that most of the past ones were just kinda there.

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(Unfortunately, I'll probably be cutting the number of CBs down from 8 to 6, unless I can come up with any additional ideas that spark me, but I'd rather have 6 decent ones than 8 meh ones.)

twilit ether
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Ah that's a shame, but yeah it makes sense

vocal ridge
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Because, I mean, as-is, there's probably not even 6 that were even considered for builds, let alone chosen. 😛

twilit ether
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I mean, the only ones I've personally never thought about were Angelic Intercession and Resonant Armaments, the first one I wasn't sure how to use effectively and the second was 2 spaces of teleportation per round so

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The others I had a pretty good idea of how to use

vocal ridge
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Fair enough.

kindred comet
vocal ridge
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It is neat, it was just way too broken when the cost was mere SP (and it could be used every round). 😛

dull mist
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i didn't realize how much i needed comparable alternatives for the commander and elite npc templates until last week

i don't think I've run into much like that elsewhere, but it makes it much easier to spice up important npcs (beyond being veterans) without busting the action economy

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(and without, like, homebrewing each one half to death)

vocal ridge
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I'm glad! I've received comments like that before, and I'm a bit surprised there hasn't really been much else in that space.

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...well, Commander-space, at least. Elite is a lot harder, since it's so simple.

dull mist
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oh my!

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i doubt i can do a lot of playtesting (b/c i don't run games nearly often enough), but i will definitely take a solid look at this

vocal ridge
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Yeah, no worries! I figured I'd just put it out there as an option.

dull mist
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all good, and thanks

vocal ridge
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I'm just glad people like the Templates. I like Templates, and always think the game needs more. 😛

twin maple
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I'm starting to learn the value of templating

dull mist
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i need to give them a more complete look later (and not on my phone), but they look very applicable

twilit ether
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Does Resonant Shroud from Akashic Warding allow characters to Hide?

vocal ridge
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No, it's not intended to. It's like you can't hide via the Guardian cover.

twilit ether
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Ah alright thanks

twilit ether
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On Bonny's Catapult, does the deployment happen before or after the attack roll is resolved?

twilit ether
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Also, how does Crystalline Infection work with irregularly shaped objects like Ice Barrier?

vocal ridge
vocal ridge
twilit ether
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Oh hell yeah, thanks

twilit ether
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On Azure's Splendor, allied characters can count all movement as flying, but must end all of them on solid ground?

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Or are they only supposed to end their turn on solid ground

vocal ridge
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It basically lets them jump jet - the movement has to end on solid ground.

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(Though, obviously without the Boost requirement.)

twilit ether
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Ohhh I see I see

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Thanks

twilit ether
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Oh Viper Drone Bonny seems really funny

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EXPLOSIVE PACKAGE, SAME-DAY SHIPPING

vocal ridge
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It is funny, but also not OP due to the restrictions on how the Drone works.

twilit ether
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True true

vocal ridge
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(That's one interaction we *did * make sure to test specifically because of it bypassing the normal deployment restrictions.)

twilit ether
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Ha, I see I'm not original :P

twilit ether
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Just checking, Jeanne's trait only makes it adjacent for the purposes of Jeanne's effects, but not the other ally, right?

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So the Jeanne can use Bonded 2 from range 5, but the targetted ally can't?

vocal ridge
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Correct.

twilit ether
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Gotcha, thanks

vocal ridge
kindred comet
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Ooh, nifty. Definitely more interactive than "two mines anywhere and they can crawl". Also clever start-of-turn timing on Stunned to use its side effects.

vocal ridge
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Notably, 4/6 of Iskander's saves are Hull or Agility, so...

kindred comet
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And to a lesser extent than always-failing-the-save, someone is bound to appreciate the forced Evasion 5.

vocal ridge
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Yep. As well as turning off reactions.

twilit ether
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Wait Subspace now gives up to two charges? On ANY Limited Systems? Now that's spicy

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I'm guessing the Daisy Cutter is the reason it only applies to Systems?

vocal ridge
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Daisy cutter mostly, yeah.

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And it's 2 charges now because... well, Gilgamesh just gives a flat +1 to every limited.

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And has a bunch of other stuff besides.

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I'm a bit sad I wasn't able to make a Mine mech work, but, eh, what can you do.

twilit ether
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What was the reason it didn't work anyways? Just kind of a boring playstyle?

vocal ridge
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It was too one-note, and frankly felt like it overlapped too much with the existing Iskander playstyle. Plus relied on things that didn't exist in the license (if you didn't want the integrated mines to just be Fragment Signal).

twilit ether
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Fair fair

regal dirge
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I just wanted to say that the pets are adorable and I love them

vocal ridge
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I'm glad. They're just Funny Little Creachures, and I wanted to make sure I had some pictures of them. 😛

wise nova
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for some reason the Phane looks really good when scaled down in paint.net

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like it just pixelated really well

vocal ridge
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Probably because of how chunky it is. It's already deliberately rough.

wise nova
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Hmmm

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Trying to think of a clever design for a HESTIA-class’s avatar

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Shield with halo?

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Or actually, if I can pull it off, dove with halo

vocal ridge
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The running joke back when I ran the first Iridia campaign was that Hestia was A Moth. (Despite her epithet being butterfly.)

wise nova
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Honestly, that works too I suppose

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Actually, butterfly made of triangles with a halo sounds pretty good

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wait that’s just that one character from super paper Mario

vocal ridge
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Hah. Tippi is definitely an aesthetic.

wanton vale
vocal ridge
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Anyways, new frame time! The Viridian, with @frail mountain outdoing himself once again for this Goblin-alt.

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wise nova
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I wonder if it’s part of the cause?

vocal ridge
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Oh, yeah, @unborn pawn, since I know you missed some of the previous arts.

wise nova
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That rift looks so good

vocal ridge
vocal ridge
wise nova
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I’m not sure why but it just does

unborn pawn
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Again, why do these frames look so good

wise nova
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Must be the hand bracing against it

vocal ridge
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Because Joe is very talented at making things just work.

unborn pawn
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I love that it has a MangaAngemon style wrist blade

wise nova
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Also side note: is the Ananke’s kit supposed to be stuff the HESTIA is using?

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Since the frame and NHP seem to be pretty heavily tied together

unborn pawn
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What's stellar codex at? I have version 0.0.1. I'd be down to run a session sometime for these frames

vocal ridge
# wise nova Also side note: is the Ananke’s kit supposed to be stuff the HESTIA is using?

Nah, it's separate - whatever the frame entity is, it's not a HESTIA.

Funnily enough, the HESTIA-Class was originally with the Nemesis, entirely for thematics (since the Nemesis was based off of the commander of the Iridian forces). ...and also because only the original six frames existed. It got moved over once I realized "oh, a striker frame is a stupid place for a control NHP." 😛

wise nova
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Oh boy

vocal ridge
vocal ridge
wise nova
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Love it

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I guess it’s like the Minotaur in that

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Also I’m not sure what I should have expected after how it came to be in the first place

vocal ridge
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As the last paragraph says: Given the Ananke’s ability to teleport via legionspace, a talent that concerns Union greatly, it’s not a surprise that it’s spread beyond the Demonworks - despite the best efforts of the corporation in question to keep it locked down. There have been reports of it spreading beyond Iridia, too, possibly at the behest of another, possibly with an agenda all its own.

unborn pawn
vocal ridge
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I will make a note to send it to you then.

unborn pawn
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Just don't work ochre time

vocal ridge
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I'm not dignifying any of these with a response. 😛

twilit ether
wise nova
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Wait shoot I still need to make that meme for the ananke

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before I get lost again playing HW3

twilit ether
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Vampire Capacitors work with Dispersion Plating right?

vocal ridge
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Yep, that is correct. 3 or less heat would be reduced to 1.

twilit ether
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Hehehehhe

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Become dedicated party heat sink

vocal ridge
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It's still only 1/round.

twilit ether
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I mean yeah but still

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Actually on that note

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Say the Onyx had DWHS, would the reduction happen before or after the resistance?

vocal ridge
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I should probably clarify this is intended to be before resistance. I forgot about that.

twilit ether
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Gotcha

vocal ridge
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Well, there's all the small updates pushed to the document. And I guess also, less importantly, the Ochre revamp. 😛

twilit ether
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Nice nice

wise nova
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Wait hang on

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if the ananke didn’t use to have the HESTIA-class NHP, what did it have before then?

vocal ridge
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It didn't exist.

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I realized that it fit better with the Ananke while in the process of making it.

wise nova
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Right, makes sense

vocal ridge
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The original frames were... well, all the Demonworks frames with alts, minus the Selene. (That one got added in because I had a second Drone frame idea.)

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The fact that the Mk 2 frames represent their associated characters post character development should tell you something.

wise nova
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“All the demonworks frames with alts”

Yeah that’s so little frames

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(It would be enough for a normal supplement)

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Also side note, have you looked outside?

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Based on the timezone, i think you might be at the right lattitude to see the auroras that are happening

vocal ridge
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The project initially started as me just doing Licenses as a surprise for my players, based on their characters. (Plus the mechanic-priest attached to their squad, and their overall commander. The relevant NPCs.) It kinda... snowballed from there. 😛

vocal ridge
vocal ridge
wise nova
wise nova
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Ah yes, “post-training montage”

vocal ridge
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More like post-trauma montage.

wise nova
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fair

vocal ridge
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If I'm honest, the field guide has a lot of peculiarities that originate from the fact that the setting was a campaign first, and a setting guide afterwards.

wise nova
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The Iridian conflict was a war nobody won

vocal ridge
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It only snowballed because people kept prodding me to do more with it. 😛

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"You should write a field guide to go with these mechs." "Well, maybe I will!"

265 pages later "...oh no."

wise nova
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More like 30 frames later

vocal ridge
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I mean, it was more than the frames. All the setting stuff, and the NPCs... and the talents. Those were definitely something that only came in at the end.

wise nova
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Fair point

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That reminds me, I’m the GM for our group, I need to check the NPCs

vocal ridge
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Well, there's a lot. 😛

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And, spoilers, I'm working on a rewrite for the Eidolon layer, since I'm really not happy with it.

kindred comet
twilit ether
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Damn y'all getting auroras? All I'm getting is 41°c weather 😭

kindred comet
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Well, there is purportedly an aurora on the horizon I can't see behind the cloud cover diffusion from here. Not sure if that counts, though I can tell it's a touch brighter than usual for this time of night.

balmy vigilBOT
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I'm 'enjoying' 21c at 60% humidity.

unborn pawn
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If anyone's interested, I can run a stellar codex game next weekend.

vocal ridge
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Oh geez, that was fast. 😛

unborn pawn
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Well, it's a week off :p I'm just putting it out there

vocal ridge
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I meant from you saying "huh, I could run a test."

unborn pawn
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Apparently, I've hit the terminal stage of being a Lancer player, where instead of playing games you just start running games all the time xD

vocal ridge
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Hah.

I basically started there. 😔

wise nova
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Same

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Although I’m working on seeing if I can get a character in anyhow

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Well technically said character’s been there all along

unborn pawn
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I'll throw out this time for the folk here if anyone wants to do a Stellar codex test <t:1716170400:F>

wise nova
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Just finally grabbed the field guide for real

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God I love the identity layer

vocal ridge
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Oh, nice. I will be frank, though, that that one is definitely going to be getting a complete overhaul of some sort. It's... imo, easily the lowest-quality thing in the book by far.

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If I'm being perfectly honest, I was mostly hesitant to do anything with it because people seemed to like the novelty of having a homebrew Eidolon layer. But I've been getting less and less happy with it as time goes on.

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(Always happy to hear comments on what parts of fluff/mechanics/art people do and don't like, though!)

wise nova
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Yeah!

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Also I just had the most cursed idea

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Living battlefield with the swarmhost template

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The trees are made of nanites

vocal ridge
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It can't actually take templates, but you can just... flavour it that way by default. (Or break the rules.)

wise nova
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this was before i found out about that liminal space Wingman NPC that has a laser optional by default

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this thing

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vocal ridge
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Geez, can't believe you come in here peddling other homebrew. 😉

balmy vigilBOT
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That looks like something out of.. Oh, Project Wingman. I love it.

twilit ether
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Well it's technically Ace Combat but what's the difference really

wise nova
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I mean

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Look at the first sentence

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That’s a more or less word for word reference to AC

wise nova
vocal ridge
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Oh no. Template stuff... can sometimes cause some issues between 3rd party stuff. So, hope it doesn't blow up. 😛

wise nova
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Doubt it’d be the biggest homebrew issue in our campaign

vocal ridge
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Okay, touché.

twilit ether
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Hmm, you think Lesson of the Infinite Gaze should inherit Monarch's wording? Like "You can make tech attacks against characters with Lock On, regardless of Sensors or Line of Sight, but must consume the Lock On during the attack"?

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The intent is pretty clear, so this is more just for RAW and consistency

vocal ridge
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Maybe if I have enough space when I change things into PDF form.

twilit ether
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Gotcha

vocal ridge
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You'll note that I had to shrink the font to get them all on one page there. 😛

twilit ether
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Oh lmao

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Hmm, there's ample space under the HA CBs for the rewording to fit I think

vocal ridge
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There is now, but that doesn't mean it'll transfer over to the PDF.

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Since I'm not going to shrink fonts there.

twilit ether
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Oh you have a separate doc and PDF, gotcha

vocal ridge
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Yes. The PDF is all done manually.

twilit ether
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Oof, sounds rough

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So, I assume Adaptive Algorithms is like FSS but for mechs with low base evasion?

vocal ridge
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It's more swingy, and can be gamed by lower accuracy attacks - but also works against Smart attacks.

twilit ether
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Oh huh right

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That's an interesting thing to consider

vocal ridge
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Aw man. Amber Phantom art means I no longer have exclusive purview of Metalmark Ribbon Alts. 😛

twilit ether
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Well, y'know what they say, great minds think alike

vocal ridge
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Yeah. I'm not actually upset, it's just very funny. 😔

wise nova
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@vocal ridge

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vocal ridge
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Oh, god, non 1/round Legionspace Transit would be ridiculous.

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You will take your speed 2 and like it.

wise nova
vocal ridge
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Oh, that. 😛

wise nova
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I love it dearly, but just the shenanigans

vocal ridge
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Well, the big thing is that if you want your squishy body to not be next to hostile characters, it's heavily incentivizing ally-tech.

wise nova
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oooh fair

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...also huh

vocal ridge
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I did have a player try out Enyo-claws Ananke, which was... passable. 😛

wise nova
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it occurs to me that the way to run an ananke as an NPC is to do it as an operator with weird behaviour for using step

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and maybe some tech stuff off a witch

wise nova
vocal ridge
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Look at the Chameleon NPC. It's got an optional to that effect.

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vocal ridge
wise nova
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right whoops

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fair point

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the thought of a superheavy on it is hilarious though

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and actually

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not bad

vocal ridge
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So if that breaks things, that's entirely on a GM. 😛

wise nova
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because you'd have to overcharge, wouldn't you?

vocal ridge
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Yep, if you wanted to teleport and attack.

wise nova
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yeah

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alternatively

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wait no the daisy cutter is a heavy

vocal ridge
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Hah, yeah, no, sorry.

wise nova
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yeah that would be stupid

vocal ridge
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Heavy mounts are extremely carefully distributed. 😛

vocal ridge
#

Another mech done by @frail mountain - the Cerulean, an alt-Drake frame.

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polar lotus
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blue!!!

vocal ridge
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It is called the Cerulean, after all. 😛

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(But, yes, double-whammy with the hardlight things that'd already be blue.)

twilit ether
#

Wait speaking of the Cerulian

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How does it work with Quickprint Fabricator, since it has the Deployable tag

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Also the Sable is next huh...A color close to black, with the ability to turn incoming energy into light....very excited to see what it looks like

vocal ridge
twilit ether
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No it's just that normally player-generated terrain dont count as deployables so don't count for Cerulean

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Same thing for stuff like Ice Barrier

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I was just wondering if that was intentional or not

vocal ridge
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It's not Terrain, it's a Deployable. Where was the indication it was intended to be terrain? It has the deployable tag, after all. And is on the mech that deals with Deployables.

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I'm just a bit confused where the impression that it's terrain came from?

twilit ether
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......Fuck

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I swear I thought the flavor text said it was used to create terrain or something

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I somehow made that up apparently, welp

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Thanks anyhow

vocal ridge
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Flavourwise, sure, the Ersa may be manipulating terrain for things, but mechanically it's a Deployable. Since it has the Deployable tag.

twilit ether
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Yeah I thought it was another case of Slag Cannon, my bad

vocal ridge
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Ah.

kindred comet
twilit ether
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Oh you're right actually

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That's probably why yeah

vocal ridge
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...I really need to stop scope-creeping my work. 😛

I'm currently in the process of searching for a new computer, so I can't work on PDFs right now... so, oops, looks like I'm working to flesh out some factions you can drop into any campaign to spice up a planet. Because a Planetary Features table wasn't enough.

kindred comet
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Scope creep is real, but at the same time I do like both faction detailing and random planetary tables.

cold parrot
#

GreerG

vocal ridge
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Hmm?

wise nova
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@vocal ridge sorry for the ping, but is there anywhere i could find the existing Stellar Codex mech arts?

vocal ridge
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Oh, they've been scattered here and there. I can do a collection of them.

wise nova
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thanks!

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(i did have a go at editing the LCP to add them but it doesn't really like discord links, turns out)

vocal ridge
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Oh, if you're going to be uploading them elsewhere to link as part of an LCP, I'd rather that not happen, sorry. Especially since there are a couple that I'm going to see about getting some edits on, I'd rather not have another version of things floating around.

wise nova
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fair enough

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but yeah no, just asking so i can use them as token art for an impromptu playtest today

vocal ridge
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Ah, well, I can collect them for if you need the token stuff.

wise nova
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nice!

vocal ridge
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Got another cool new mech courtesy of @frail mountain: the Sable, a White Witch alt that projects its armour.

...except that he managed to make a scheme that convinced me that it looked really, really good in orange, so it and the Ochre are probably swapping names next update to keep that colour consistency. 😛

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vocal ridge
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Of course, the *most *important thing is that Joe was able to give me the "mech in a dress" brainworm that had been bouncing around in my head for too long.

kindred comet
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Completely logical progression from the Astraea's cape; I believe it.

vocal ridge
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Hey, look, the Selene had a full body cloak. It was the logical progression from there. 😛

kindred comet
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Oh yeah, I forgot the Selene has a cloak; was distracted by the Astraea having receipts to show the SP cost....I'd have guessed the cloak would have been the logical progression from the dress, rather than the other way around; but I'm not an expert on mechtile textiles.

vocal ridge
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Cloak just goes over the mech, dress is actually worn. 😉

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And it's fine. Nobody notices the Selene has a cloak, because they're too busy being distracted by its legs.

kindred comet
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Huh. I'd have thought it was the arm position subtly conveying a closer connection to the drone than the more typical bird-on-forearm type pose would have. ...and now I can't unsee the half-safety-scissor legs.

vocal ridge
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Psh, it's not because of that, it's because it apparently causes gender envy. 😉

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I have been told multiple times that the Selene is Maximum Gender™️. So, y'know, good job on Joe for evoking that. 😛

kindred comet
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Really...? Huh. Well I'll take your (their?) word for it; I can certainly believe I'd miss something like that....

vocal ridge
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It's usually been in #lancer-general, not here.

twilit ether
hexed narwhal
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Joe continues to be awesome

earnest prism
vocal ridge
vocal ridge
vocal ridge
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I forgot that fully half of the Aunic stuff was Size 2. (Poor Viridian, all alone right now in being small.)

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wise nova
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it's glorious

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how many stellar codex mechs still need art now?

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like one?

twilit ether
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Yep

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Ochre(or I guess Sable now)

vocal ridge
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Yep. Just the Iskander alt. Though don't expect that to mean the book itself'll be done anytime soon.

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I've been having computer issues making doing things in the PDF editor rough, plus still have a bunch of things to work on for the GM-side stuff.

twilit ether
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Ah that's a shame, godspeed sis 🫡

vocal ridge
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C'est la vie. Who knows, maybe I'll take the time to expand the random tables I've been working on. Can never have too many tables. 😛

twilit ether
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At a certain point you're gonna need more chairs

vocal ridge
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The trinket table probably has one of those.

twilit ether
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Ah of course

vocal ridge
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@limber radish If you're wanting to see frame art, I've got... well, all but one frame commissioned. (In order: Bonny, Hummingbird, Unicorn, Tomyris.)

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limber radish
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oH HECK YEah

vocal ridge
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And for the Aunic frames: Azure, Carmine, Cerise, Cerulean

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limber radish
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oH this is awesome

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very excited!

vocal ridge
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Onyx, Sable (or, well, probably Ochre now because of the colour scheme), and Viridian.

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So, almost done with the frames. ...still got a bunch of stuff to do on the GM-side of the book, though, that isn't in the preview doc. Finishing up the terrain effects, doing up a couple of factions and plot hooks...

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Glad that it's exciting, at least! I'm looking forwards to when I can finally get out a full version.

limber radish
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when the full version comes out we'll abso be making space to play around with this!
(heck we may end up doing some playtesting here soon for it if we can manage to squeeze around some schedules)

vocal ridge
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Always happy to have more tests around! Feel free to hit me up for either of the lcps.

vocal ridge
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Finally gotten around to poking at some possible Iridia updates that've been on my To Update™️ list for longer than I'd like: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jUQbfj-2EMNV2FUYSbeyhodvWll1ro9GU9bHWlcYAaE/edit

Google Docs
Iridia System Updates

Hemera 3: Old: Emergency Shunt 2 SP, Unique Whenever you take Structure Damage or Stress, you may, immediately after rolling on the Structure Damage or Overheating table but before resolving the result, teleport 3 spaces and become Invisible until the start of your next turn. “It actually ...

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Everything's still provisional currently, but here's the sort of thing that's being looked at.

twilit ether
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Oooh we love to see progress

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Oh wait this is Iridia not Stellar Codex!

vocal ridge
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Idk if it's so much progress as trying to fix some nagging items. 😛

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Yeah.

twilit ether
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It seems the grind really never stops huh

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I wish ye godspeed

vocal ridge
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I'm hoping that between this and the punching up of the CB selection, this can be the last update.

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It's one bit punching up some underperforming stuff the last update missed, one part changing things to combo with the revamped Castilla frame from last update, and one part just making things more interesting.

twilit ether
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Oh the Coldstorm Charges change is interestingggggg

vocal ridge
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Yeah it's very much Experimental™️ right now. Subject to change if I don't like it after poking at it.

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Just an idea that's been rattling around in my head, though, so wanted to get it on paper.

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No better way to stop a bad idea than try and put it on paper and wait a few days. 😛

twilit ether
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Putting ideas on paper lets you think about them more with the new freed up space in the brain after all :P

vocal ridge
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Well, yeah, that's obviously where the next batch of alt frames goes.

twilit ether
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Oh no the homebrew mines got to her again! She's making even more!

vocal ridge
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That stuff's not going to be for a while, don't get your hopes up. If nothing else, 12 frames already takes a chunk out of the wallet. 😛

twilit ether
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Oh god I fully expected you to be joking

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Well damn, take your time then, that's quite a lot on your plate

vocal ridge
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I mean, there are vague ideas bouncing around.

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It feels impossible to fully use up every idea in a nice convenient package. There's always at least one left. 😛

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So, it is a joke, but also not, because... I mean, you've seen how I do stuff.

twilit ether
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Aye

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Creation is fun after all

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Just pace yourself n all that

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Especially in the funds department, art is pricey as you've said

kindred comet
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The thing about ideas is that they're insubstantial before/without doing the work to reify them, so an idea that hasn't been pursued can fit into any package because it has no substance to take up space.

cinder shadow
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just made a ersa mk2 pilot

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feels very neat

vocal ridge
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Ooh, nice. What build?

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It's one of my favorite frames conceptually, just because of the whole "yeah, I'm just going to turn this wall into a gun and shoot you." So glad to see it getting some love.

cinder shadow
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notably suldan and legionnaire

# 
[ LICENSES ]
  IRIDIA Ersa 3, HORUS Kobold 3, IPS-N Drake 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Reinforced Frame, Overpower Caliber, Shimmering Barrier
[ TALENTS ]
  LEGIONNAIRE 3, Gunslinger 3, Hacker 2, Skirmisher 2, Empath 2
[ STATS ]
  HULL:6 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:5
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:28 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:11 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:+1 LIMITED:+2
  SPD:5 EVA:8 EDEF:8 SENSE:5 SAVE:15
[ WEAPONS ]
  Integrated: Data Dart
  AUX/AUX MOUNT: MC-LMG Light Machine Gun / MC-LMG Light Machine Gun
  FLEX MOUNT: Assault Cannon // Overpower Caliber
  MAIN MOUNT: Slag Cannon
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Inertia Pylon x4, Terrain Formatter, Quickprint Fabricator, Emergency Fabrication Reserves, Seismic Ripper, Purifying Code```
vocal ridge
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Can't believe you took Drake but aren't towing around a Bunker. 😔

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(The eternal joke in development was using a bunker to stab someone with a sword.)

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But Kobold and Drake stuff do make perfect sense.

cinder shadow
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it was more for the CB and the assault cannon

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i CAN switch stuff around with the bunker

vocal ridge
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The bunker in all likelihood isn't actually practical - it's just really, really funny.

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It's like the Bonny. "I will drop a anvil bunker on peoples' heads." Practical? Absolutely not. Hilarious image? Yes.

cinder shadow
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aye i would rather be able to have a bunch of slag everywhere before i let loose seismic ripper

vocal ridge
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Alright, Jammed was a bit too powerful (and there was already enough "save or Immobilized" in the Frame), so settled on this for Coldstorm Charges.

kindred comet
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Sounds like it'd combo quite well with Zero-Point Pulse.

vocal ridge
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That is, indeed, a combo.

vocal ridge
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The last of my Aunic Alts is done, thanks to the wonderful @frail mountain. The Ochre: for when you need an endless source of pocketspace mines.

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polar lotus
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yessssssss

vocal ridge
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(I've decided that I am probably going to keep the Sable and Ochre's names the same, glow colour be damned, because I've just gotten too used to them being called that. 😛 )

wise nova
wise nova
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Or just say that glow colors can depend on the wielder

vocal ridge
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Meh, I'm just not going to acknowledge it. It was a background detail anyways. 😛

twilit ether
kindred comet
# vocal ridge (I've decided that I *am* probably going to keep the Sable and Ochre's names the...

Oh "colour", that reminds me....I noticed the other day that the Endeavor's entry goes back and forth between "Endeavor" and "Endeavo__u__r"; notably Astral Maneuvering Thrusters uses a different form in each of its two sentences. My first thought was that this was an implied metacomment on the uncanny valley that is US-vs-UK English spelling; and while that would amuse me greatly, my entertainment is a poor mediocre basis for an assumption.

vocal ridge
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Oh, drat. I thought I caught all the Endeavors. It's annoying, because my autocorrect refused to accept with a u as the correct spelling.

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It's named after the space shuttle british sailing ship.

kindred comet
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Ah, the "U" version then. I do understand the pain; with a name like "autocorrect" it might be expected to be self-correct, but not so much....

vocal ridge
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(These've just been some vague spitballing for alt-frames based off of worlds that went down different technology branches than Union did.)

twilit ether
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....Oh my god

vocal ridge
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Don't expect them to actually be playable or anything anytime soon, though.

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This has just been a side project occupying my brain (mostly during downtime at work).

polar lotus
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Heavy Mount Gorgon alt.......

vocal ridge
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Look, gotta get the reaction weapon talent in there. 😛

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But, look, you gotta give people a reason to ditch the All The Stuns. 😔

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Of course, these have recieved no testing (and probably won't for a while, tbh), so, couldn't say if it's balanced!

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The hardest part was figuring out names that blatantly evoked a theme for each manufacturer while only having a single datapoint to work off of.

vocal ridge
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A little bit of a redraw of the Unicorn, courtesy once again of Spiral_Joe. Since terrain never ended up being included in any of the subsequent art, this just makes it a bit more unified with the rest of the frames.

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wise nova
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Cannot wait for that to release
(Or get an updated LCP)

vocal ridge
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Stellar Codex is a while off yet. Still got some GM stuff to write (finishing off the terrain, factions, plot hooks...), and gotta fix my computer woes. But I am at least hoping to force myself to get most or all of the Iridia update this weekend, get that weight off of me.

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Because, man, has that taken way longer than I wanted. sweating

twilit ether
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Especially the updated head

vocal ridge
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Yeah, it all spells out Predator™️ a lot better.

balmy vigilBOT
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It reminds me of a like.. Iridian Pegasus? And I love it for it.

vocal ridge
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Yeah, I can see that. It has the same glows, even if it's a tad more geometric than Iridian frames tend to be (It's funny, it wasn't intentionally similar colours to the Persephone, while also being spider/insectlike, it just happened.)

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It's a Service Weapon™️ Pegasus alt. I can't unsee it now that it's been described that way. 😛

balmy vigilBOT
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I've been mulling on that description. What do you mean by that?

vocal ridge
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Ah, sorry, that is probably incredibly unhelpfully generic if you don't know the reference. The Service Weapon from Control is a very geometric gun that often has parts floating around and can reshape itself.

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Which very much describes what the Unicorn is to a T.

balmy vigilBOT
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I see!