Field Guide To Liminal Space | Pilot NET | Page 10

fading jewel Aug 13, 2023, 5:20 PM

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Vanguard that triggers on movement that doesn't trigger reactions lol

rustic root Aug 13, 2023, 5:20 PM

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I believe one area

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Which is why vanguard 3 specifies spaces within threat, rather than just "threat"

halcyon thorn Aug 13, 2023, 5:21 PM

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There are wordings that could be used to indicate 'if they move inside your threat at all', and they weren't used, which inclines me to say that leaving threat entirely is the intent

rustic root Aug 13, 2023, 5:23 PM

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Also tbh triggering when they leave threat has a bit of weirdness with weapons who's range is the same as their threat where by the time they trigger the reaction they aren't a valid target

halcyon thorn Aug 13, 2023, 5:25 PM

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I had assumed that it resolves before the triggering movement like most overwatches
Hence why it says a movement which 'would' leave threat

fading jewel Aug 13, 2023, 5:30 PM

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Aye

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Same way melee weapons can still do overwatches

rustic root Aug 13, 2023, 5:32 PM

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The thing is that regular overwatch triggers off someone starting a movement

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Where they go with it doesn't matter because the trigger is "they start to move at all"

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So the sequencing where a reaction happens after the trigger still lets you hit them before they have moved out of range

halcyon thorn Aug 13, 2023, 5:40 PM

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I would say that in almost every scenario you can see if a movement would leave threat and then retcon a lil bit to just before that do the blast if so

fleet steppe Aug 13, 2023, 6:04 PM

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I’ve been having fun with avarice, empath + field analyst + leader talents, illusion charges (recall beacon) & ye olde pattern a smoke charges

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also took additional mines for utility and demolitionist 3!

carmine nymph Aug 13, 2023, 8:09 PM

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Um. Rereading the abilities, I actually think so. This is not a take I ever expected to see, but the reading arguably works. Even better, it's HILARIOUS. Sure, you get to punch the mech in the soul.

steady halo Aug 13, 2023, 8:11 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-benedict-cumberbatch-marvel-the-ancient-one-spritual-body-gif-17317096

Tenor

zenith niche Aug 13, 2023, 9:17 PM

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steady halo https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-benedict-cumberbatch-marvel-the-ancient-on...

Beat me to it, I visualized that exact scene

lapis sphinx Aug 13, 2023, 9:22 PM

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Temperance using them doesn't have an attack roll, does it?

barren pendant Aug 13, 2023, 11:31 PM

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Hmm...I keep being tempted by that Celestial Orrery/Omninet Uplink I was going to write about but if it's not interesting...will need to ponder.

mossy lotus Aug 13, 2023, 11:38 PM

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If it speaks to you, do it.

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Personally, I think it's a neat concept.

karmic gull Aug 14, 2023, 1:14 AM

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the why of it i think is the question to ask

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why build art around this piece of infrastructure? or, why build the infrastructure in the art?

barren pendant Aug 14, 2023, 1:11 PM

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The Piston Treaty

For a space-faring world descended from the astronauts of the Union Space Program, the militarization of space is no strange realm for Milisea and its Túatha. The orbital production bays of the world hold some of the few remaining needleships, still functional for generation after generation of crew. In the sky above the world floats the Orbtial Fortress Dún Sciatháin, equipped with batteries of lances and dozens of flight decks to protect the world from invasion. However, despite that, Milisea has almost never seen combat in the void.

The primary reason for this is one of oldest treaties on Milisea, signed by the original founders of the world before there were multiple Túatha. These founders had seen how casually life could be consigned to oblivion by space-born weapons, a shining civilization returning to the brutality of throwing rocks at each other among the stars. Thus, they crafted a treaty that so far, no Túath has dared to break.

It dictated that even if the people of Milisea would fight among themselves, none would level orbital bombardment against each other or clash with each other in space. With no Túath willing to take the risk that their own breaking of this treaty would result in being obliterated in turn, space has remained one of the primary areas of cooperation and Unity on Milisea.

The orbital spaceports of the world are crewed by people from every single Túath and the Naval vessels that patrol the system owe allegiance to the world as a whole instead of any single leader. This has often led to political arguments and division over the precise ratios of crew and if one Túath sees excessive representation but it also leaves Milisea appearing much more united on an intergalactic front than it is in terrestrial matters.

barren pendant Aug 14, 2023, 1:30 PM

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Unknown Paths Research
One of the many subsections of the scientific juggernaut that is Ironleaf Foundry, Unknown Paths Research is the primary laboratory on Milesia dealing with faster than light communication and travel. Even before the Deimos Event, humanity had theories of ways to travel between stars that would not cost lifetimes. Wormholes, Distance Bending and Higher Dimensional Space, all were planned and tested, to little practical effect. Heir to vast databanks of the Union Space Program and cut off from Union's developments of Blink Travel and the Omninet for much of its existance, Milesia never stopped this research.

A titanic structure, Unknown Paths is built around Milesia's primary Omninet uplink, monitoring the endless streams of information from across the lightyears, planning and improving upon the protocols used by the planet. However, another reason for the location of this uplink is a lack of trust. Union holds both the Omninet and Blink Technology in an iron grip, dictating who may access to it and who is barred from it. Milesia benefits from them currently but there is fear there may come a day when Union does not agree that Milesia should have it any more, making them prisoners upon their own world.

Thus, research not only into Blink Travel but other purely theoretical forms of travel is a priority for Unknown Paths, undeterred by failure after failure. If it should take a million failures to achieve a single success, it will be worth it. A symbol of this goal is a massive holographic celestial orrery that fills the middle of the cylindrical research labs. From here flows the music of the spheres, buoying hope that one day there might be ways to journey beyond what even Union can imagine.

Took a shot at putting pen to paper/trying to get across Milesea's friendly but also slightly tense relationship with Union as a part of it.

rustic root Aug 14, 2023, 3:04 PM

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yeah that helps explain why this is Something Of Note

barren pendant Aug 14, 2023, 3:11 PM

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I hope it's an interesting something of note.

rustic root Aug 14, 2023, 3:20 PM

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ye

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barren pendant Aug 14, 2023, 3:30 PM

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"We wants it."

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||I'll admit, part of my worry with IF is making them too special, since I've got that fey aspect to it.||

rustic root Aug 14, 2023, 3:34 PM

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tbh IF has been a big insparation for one of my personal projects as like, precedent for Weird Stuff™️ that isn't specifically like, Ra/Eidolons/Metavaults doing a thing

vapid fossil Aug 14, 2023, 3:56 PM

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YAY more IF lore!!!

barren pendant Aug 15, 2023, 3:24 AM

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Hmm...for the orbital stuff, would people rather I write about the main production space station or the planet's defensive space station?

mossy vector Aug 15, 2023, 4:35 AM

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Production

barren pendant Aug 15, 2023, 8:21 AM

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mossy vector Production

Fair enough!

rustic root Aug 15, 2023, 3:54 PM

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I mean both IMO

barren pendant Aug 16, 2023, 12:28 PM

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Samildánach Orbital Factory
In many systems, it is not uncommon for there to be dozens of small space-based production facilities, each carrying the tools for artisianal work and powerful printer systems. Corps large and small will have carved our their own part of the heavens, competing for resources and space with each other. However, in Milesian space, that is not the case. One major effect of the Piston Treaty forcing more cooperation between the Túatha in orbital matters has resulted in significant centralization of productional facilities, resulting in the creation of one of Milesia's two artificial moons.

Samildánach Orbital Factory is a titanic resource processing and production facility that dwarfs even the largest of battleships, carrying high schedule printers and skilled workmen who can craft creations as large as the massive plating for colony ships or as small and precise as semi-sapient nanomachines. Owned by no single Túath and with open to all, Samildánach truly belongs to the people of Milesia.

The most valuable and precious secret of Samildánach's halls is however some of the few remaining Needleships in Union space, remnants of the Union Space Program forces that came to Milesia. The artificers who maintain these vessels treat it more as a holy duty than a mere occupation, tending to the blessed ghosts of the past and living symbols of Milesian pride. It is common for Milesians to make a pilgrimage at least once in their lifetimes to walk the halls of these ancient vessels, to rest ones hand upon the plating and imagine what ancestors would think of today.

violet island Aug 16, 2023, 4:26 PM

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question, someone talk to me about the Acedia

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i gather its a fire platform that is a bit ponderous but also says no to being debuffed

violet island Aug 16, 2023, 5:43 PM

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follow up question, is there a way to make additional device rails work in comp con

zenith niche Aug 16, 2023, 5:56 PM

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That’s… pretty much it. Acedia parks next to a partially hard man-sized rock, kills anything in sight, and provides shelter to any of its buddies

halcyon thorn Aug 16, 2023, 9:41 PM

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violet island follow up question, is there a way to make additional device rails work in comp ...

It takes some kludging
I add it on another weapon and rename the mod to 'mod name (actually on (the weapon its on))'

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And yeah its basically an artillery that just waddles between bits of size 1 cover and blasts things
Or rather, blast things then waddles
Though, the fact that only its ranged weapons get Ordnance let you do some Bad Things
Like White Phophorus Rounds Claoihm Solais

empty kraken Aug 17, 2023, 12:58 AM

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If I might commit a random bout of self-indulgence, I'm kinda curious as to how y'all end up building

He

fading jewel Aug 17, 2023, 1:01 AM

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Violence.

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And selfishly too

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That HP is MINE

empty kraken Aug 17, 2023, 1:04 AM

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cackling

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Embracing the spirit of nobody like DONNER pilots I see

violet island Aug 17, 2023, 1:27 AM

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i enjoy comboing donner and enkidu in either direction tbh

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making enkidu do a feral howl is awesome

vale ether Aug 17, 2023, 3:58 AM

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Finnley Scarborough
CRIMINAL, LL6
GRIT:3 // H:4 A:0 S:0 E:4
[ SKILL TRIGGERS ]
  PATCH (+4), STAY COOL (+4)
  SURVIVE (+2), TAKE SOMEONE OUT (+6)
  THREATEN (+4)
[ TALENTS ]
  HOUSE GUARD 3, HUNTER 3
  GREASE MONKEY 3
[ LICENSES ]
  MO & S DONNER 3, DOWNFALL GLUTTONY 1
  SSC WHITE WITCH 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  UNIVERSAL COMPATIBILITY, MALICE Override
[ GEAR ]
  LIGHT A/C
  LIGHT SIGNATURE, ANTIPHOTON VISOR
  PATCH, STIMS
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« PIRANHA »
[ MO & S DONNER ]
  STRUCTURE:4/4 HP:19/19 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4/4 HEAT:0/10 REPAIR:8/8
  ATK BONUS:3 TECH ATK:0 LTD BONUS:2
  SPD:4 EVA:9 EDEF:8 SENS:8 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
  INTEGRATED MOUNT: Carrion/Chirurgeon Articulated Claws
  Flex Mount: SEGMENT KNIFE / Helsing-Class Combat Piton
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Distraction/Interdiction Engagement Directives, Blast Plating
  SYMPATHETIC SHIELD, CAMUS’S RAZOR
  PINNING SPIRE, FENRIS Signal Burst```
i did this for a tank-ish support donner at one point for a 3 combat oneshot a while back! was pretty fun, malice override is one of my favorite core bonuses ever, igor cloud saved our nimue a structure at a critical moment, and i even got to use harvest the unplowed fields during it. overall i had a lot of fun with it!

halcyon thorn Aug 17, 2023, 4:10 AM

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I've had a real hard time building Donner, which is a shame cuz I'm big on the combat medic niche
So I'm interested in ideas too

obtuse willow Aug 17, 2023, 5:20 AM

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sarah's build is a good one, I played a temperance in that same game

ideally you want allies who use limited systems for maximum use out of the core, other than that honestly just leverage the integrated because it's real nice

barren pendant Aug 17, 2023, 12:24 PM

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Working on the Orbital 'Tuath' and sorta working out it's major thematic situation/issue.

Basicly: To avoid anyone militarizing space against others on the planet, it was decided that orbital stuff is the realm of the planet as a whole and that no tuath has any authority there.

Issue: There's increasing numbers of people born in space who hold no association with any terrestial Tuatha (They might be technically a member but they've rarely been/have no real conneciton to it) and are pushing for recognizing some of the orbital stuff as a Tuath so they can collectively speak for their own stuff. Doing that, however, would cause serious issues with the 'no tuath is to have orbital power' treaty however, as it either becomes 'One tuath holds power over the others as orbital is that key' or 'Spaceborn people have no one to represent them, which is a bit of a human rights issue'.

lapis sphinx Aug 17, 2023, 3:33 PM

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Solution: Every Tuatha born in space is assigned to a random terrestrial tuath and has to visit it for a year between the ages of 10 and 18.

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They're assigned randomly to prevent gerrymandering.

mild spade Aug 18, 2023, 4:32 PM

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Question, NPC Timekeeper Unwind ability:
Can this be used to revive dead characters?

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Question, NPC Wingman On your Six ability:
Is there a range to this ability or can the Wingman teleport to any ally within line of sight?

barren pendant Aug 18, 2023, 5:07 PM

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mild spade Question, NPC Wingman On your Six ability: Is there a range to this ability o...

Anyone in LOS!

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The Wingman very fast.

barren pendant Aug 18, 2023, 5:08 PM

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mild spade Question, NPC Timekeeper Unwind ability: Can this be used to revive dead char...

It cannot. It can heal but it can't revive since it need to target characters, not wrecks

mild spade Aug 18, 2023, 6:08 PM

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barren pendant It cannot. It can heal but it can't revive since it need to target characters, n...

Thank-you for the clarifications!

barren pendant Aug 18, 2023, 10:04 PM

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mild spade Thank-you for the clarifications!

Happy to help!

lapis sphinx Aug 19, 2023, 11:40 AM

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What's nasty is using it on a Feign Death Veteran.

mild spade Aug 19, 2023, 2:27 PM

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lapis sphinx What's nasty is using it on a Feign Death Veteran.

O.o
omg yess

graceful kayak Aug 20, 2023, 12:08 AM

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Make a cool symmetric ship with entrances with different difficulties and benefits!

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Player: Hold on
I can deploy my lakeburst and we can just walk straight through the walls

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GM: WELP

tacit heath Aug 20, 2023, 12:23 AM

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That feeling when your plan encounters the enemy, eh?

barren pendant Aug 20, 2023, 12:28 AM

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graceful kayak >Player: Hold on I can deploy my lakeburst and we can just walk straight through...

Walls are an entrance!

zenith niche Aug 20, 2023, 12:41 AM

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graceful kayak >Player: Hold on I can deploy my lakeburst and we can just walk straight through...

As long as the first player to do so yells “OH YEAH!”

mossy lotus Aug 20, 2023, 12:49 AM

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barren pendant Walls are an entrance!

Walls are just doors that require a heavy duty lockpick.

graceful kayak Aug 20, 2023, 1:49 AM

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same player: We also can't actually lose this encounter, we can only lose the tactical goal

the midpoint of this ship is exactly 8 tiles wide
I can, very literally, crack the ship in half
correct
I was looking at it and I was like 'hmmmmm'

'but i don't WANT that'

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because excalibur

barren pendant Aug 21, 2023, 12:14 PM

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Dáire
One of the primary breadbaskets of Milesea, Dáire is an endless wave of fields, hydroponic bays and buzzing agricultural drones flying across the landscape. While few Túatha are without agricultural programs of their own, none has quite pushed it as far as Dáire, their growth feeding a significant percentage of the world’s population.

The backbone of Dáire’s success is not pastoralist spirit but a rigorous and ever expanding biological and terraforming research program. Every new season is a new modification to existing plants and animals; making them hardier, healthier and better adapted to their roles. Soil is turned again and again, infused with carefully designed nutrients tailored for the growth of Dáire’s agricultural needs. University teams take part in many programs funded by the Túath, competing for new and impressive innovations upon existing species and plant genus and many colonial programs buy the production rights to species suited to the world they shall one day reach.

This love of biological manipulation is not only limited to plants and non-sapient animals, however. Where many core worlds have a bioessentialist edge that looks askance at more overt modifications, Milisea embraces them as forms of expression. Unnatural hair colours, modifications based on tales of local spirits and many exotic modifications are produced in the medical bays of Dáire.

Beyond their actions directly in agriculture, Dáire is famous on the planet for providing the equipment and training to one of Milesea’s most effective hazardous materials teams, the Deamhna Aerig. Masters of nanotoxin mists and tailored plagues, they act as first responders to reports of serious infectious diseases and blackwash outbreaks, providing on-the-fly development of antidotes and countermeasures. Some rumours abound however that they have also seen work as boarding teams, spreading horror as easily as they cure it.

Another of the Tuath for the IF book written up!

old pendant Aug 21, 2023, 3:50 PM

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Curious would Bastion's Deathcounter still be affected by the crit effect of Precision Plasma Channel?

fleet steppe Aug 21, 2023, 4:14 PM

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made an attempt at a wrathful caliban

« NO ESCAPE »
-- IPS-N Caliban @ LL4 --
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N Caliban 2, DOWNFALL WRATH 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ TALENTS ]
Vanguard 3, Combined Arms 2, Siege Specialist 1, Spaceborn 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:2 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
STRUCTURE:4 HP:14 ARMOR:2
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:7 REPAIR:6
TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+1
SPD:4 EVA:10 EDEF:8 SENSE:3 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: HHS-075 “Flayer” Shotgun 3 3 1d6+1
HEAVY MOUNT: Thermal Lance 10 1d6+3 (Supermassive Mod) // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
Armament Redundancy, CHESS System, Custom Paint Job, Expansion/Inclusion Module, Personalizations

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could prolly swap spaceborn for heavy gunner or something

fleet steppe Aug 21, 2023, 4:34 PM

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but I was thinking of taking spaceborn 2 and investing in more hull when my group hits ll5

lapis sphinx Aug 21, 2023, 7:28 PM

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This is stupid.

-- DOWNFALL GLUTTONY @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  DOWNFALL GLUTTONY 3, HA Iskander 2, HA SUNZI 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Integrated Ammo Feeds, Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ TALENTS ]
  Nuclear Cavalier 3, Engineer 3, Walking Armory 3
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:23 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:-1 LIMITED:+4
  SPD:5 EVA:8 EDEF:8 SENSE:8 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
  Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun
  Integrated: Prototype Weapon III
  MAIN MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
  FLEX MOUNT: Stub Cannon / Stub Cannon
  HEAVY MOUNT: Annihilator Cannon // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Armament Redundancy, Personalizations, ACCELERATE, BLINK CHARGES x7, Grounding Charges x6

zenith niche Aug 21, 2023, 8:03 PM

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Just Annihilating every turn?

zenith niche Aug 21, 2023, 8:24 PM

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And occasionally actually firing the Fuel Rod Gun to shed heat. I've doodled similar setups on Ptolemy/Gluttony

barren pendant Aug 21, 2023, 10:47 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G2Q1qsoGEU Tom Scott visits Milesia (more seriously, these barrows inspired one of the big pieces of art for the book)

YouTube

Tom Scott

No-one built these for 5,000 years… until now.

Long barrows are Neolithic constructions that might have been churches, or graveyards, or landmarks. And some are being built again: for the first time in recorded history. ■ Soulton Long Barrow: https://www.soultonhall.co.uk/page/322/soulton-long-barrow.htm ■ Sacred Stones: https://www.sacredstones.co.uk/our-locations/soulton-long-barrow/

Came...

▶ Play video

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vapid fossil Aug 21, 2023, 11:09 PM

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Holy moly

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That's amazing art!

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May I inquire who the artist is?

barren pendant Aug 21, 2023, 11:17 PM

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It was @kind widget!

vapid fossil Aug 21, 2023, 11:41 PM

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damm that is so aweome

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cant wait for the book 😌

barren pendant Aug 21, 2023, 11:43 PM

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vapid fossil cant wait for the book 😌

The mechanics are mostly sorted. Right now I'm just writing fluff (Which is going slower than I'd like) but getting there.

vapid fossil Aug 21, 2023, 11:44 PM

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furious nodding

barren pendant Aug 21, 2023, 11:44 PM

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And from there...well, editing and sorting out Layout (Which I'm no good at)

barren pendant Aug 21, 2023, 11:45 PM

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vapid fossil damm that is so aweome

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J8DAzZqbObyH1N_hY0uRNDcs_8qQziC6LPXM1g6WzOI/edit?usp=sharing It's the basis of a flashpoint!

Google Docs

Airgead Barrow

Airgead Barrow - The Barrow At The Center Of A World Despite the initial surveys of Milesia showing a wealth of natural resources and a vibrant unique ecosystem, the most shocking revelation was underground. Within the crust of the planet, initial explorations found a massive cavern not of ston...

vapid fossil Aug 21, 2023, 11:46 PM

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😮

vapid fossil Aug 21, 2023, 11:47 PM

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barren pendant The *mechanics* are mostly sorted. Right now I'm just writing fluff (Which is go...

also "just" writing fluff. The fluff for Ironleaf has been truly awesome and I am fully in love with it

barren pendant Aug 21, 2023, 11:47 PM

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Dáire
One of the primary breadbaskets of Milesea, Dáire is an endless wave of fields, hydroponic bays and buzzing agricultural drones flying across the landscape. While few Túatha are without agricultural programs of their own, none has quite pushed it as far as Dáire, their growth feeding a significant percentage of the world’s population.

The backbone of Dáire’s success is not pastoralist spirit but a rigorous and ever expanding biological and terraforming research program. Every new season is a new modification to existing plants and animals; making them hardier, healthier and better adapted to their roles. Soil is turned again and again, infused with carefully designed nutrients tailored for the growth of Dáire’s agricultural needs. University teams take part in many programs funded by the Túath, competing for new and impressive innovations upon existing species and plant genus and many colonial programs buy the production rights to species suited to the world they shall one day reach.

This love of biological manipulation is not only limited to plants and non-sapient animals, however. Where many core worlds have a bioessentialist edge that looks askance at more overt modifications, Milisea embraces them as forms of expression. Unnatural hair colours, modifications based on tales of local spirits and many exotic modifications are produced in the medical bays of Dáire.

Beyond their actions directly in agriculture, Dáire is famous on the planet for providing the equipment and training to one of Milesea’s most effective hazardous materials teams, the Deamhna Aerig. Masters of nanotoxin mists and tailored plagues, they act as first responders to reports of serious infectious diseases and blackwash outbreaks, providing on-the-fly development of antidotes and countermeasures. Some rumours abound however that they have also seen work as boarding teams, spreading horror as easily as they cure it.

Speaking of which: Just got this done for another of the planet's citystates/countries.

vapid fossil Aug 22, 2023, 12:07 AM

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Ye I saw earlier!

barren pendant Aug 22, 2023, 12:07 AM

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I hope it's interesting. Trying to make the planet feel like it's got a Variety of people and groups, not just one sort. XD

vapid fossil Aug 22, 2023, 12:10 AM

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barren pendant I hope it's interesting. Trying to make the planet feel like it's got a Variety ...

Are the Dàire the ones who unleashed hell upon the lost Túath?

barren pendant Aug 22, 2023, 12:10 AM

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Yep!

vapid fossil Aug 22, 2023, 12:10 AM

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Ayy!

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I remembered correctly 😌

barren pendant Aug 22, 2023, 12:11 AM

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Since each of the Tuath are getting a 'Interesting notable thing' in addition to Overview and Capital.

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Some are events, some are locations etc.

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Airgead Barrow is one of them for a tuath I've yet to quite finish writing!

vapid fossil Aug 22, 2023, 12:13 AM

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I am looking very much forward to it!

vapid fossil Aug 22, 2023, 12:14 AM

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barren pendant Airgead Barrow is one of them for a tuath I've yet to quite finish writing!

And thank you for your hard work!

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And for giving us dope stuff

steady halo Aug 22, 2023, 12:57 AM

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old pendant Curious would Bastion's Deathcounter still be affected by the crit effect of Pre...

I'm unsure exactly how PPC is phrased, but Deathcounter doesn't cause an attack to fail, so I'm inclined to say no.

karmic gull Aug 22, 2023, 3:37 AM

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deathcounter reduces a successful attack's damage to 0

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so PPC just gets crunched

barren pendant Aug 22, 2023, 11:20 AM

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Annwfyn
The result of a multi-year survey,  Annwfyn’s original site was significantly more planned than the organic growth of many of its counterparts. Deep aquifers, fertile soil and natural barriers against disaster made for a perfect place for crops located in a large valley.

Since then, Annwfyn has been the target of a generational project, demonstrating Dáire mastery of terraforming by improving what was already an exceptional location. When one views the city and its pristine vistas, one might be tempted to think they had walked into a heavenly otherworld where delight and food are ever abundant. This is entirely by design, with not a blade of grass or stone remaining from the original site after so many years, with even the valley walls reshaped and redesigned to be more aesthetically pleasing.

Annwfyn’s homes are generally large and heavily windowed, designed to let in as much of the stunning vista that surrounds the city as possible. Citizens are allowed to experiment and plan exotic designs to their houses, with current trends tending towards living wood and open plans. Food and drink are likewise creative, shifting heavily with each new iteration and custom designed crop.

Despite its nature as part of Union’s Core, life in Annwfyn is fast paced and competitive. Students work long hours, studying and preparing for entrance into prestigious higher education and attempting to rest on one’s laurels in its cutthroat industries is a quick path to missed opportunities. However, in spite of that, it is not cruel. For every cut-throat competition, there are a dozen experts seeking to train up those who might someday be a worthy rival. This flurry of expression, creativity and design is not pushed by fear of starvation or failure but instead a culture that seeks to allow one to demonstrate their skill and claim glory in all things. To fail is no shame, it is a shame to never even attempt to exceed.

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And Dáire's Capital!

vapid fossil Aug 22, 2023, 12:52 PM

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yay!

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MORE LORE

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thank you thanky oyu

barren pendant Aug 22, 2023, 12:54 PM

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Trying to tread the line between 'high intensity' and 'this place is supposed to be basicly a Core World so it can't be too bad or it wouldn't be core.'

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So I tried to thread the needle for 'Good to live...if you like high intensity'

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If that remotely makes sense?

vapid fossil Aug 22, 2023, 12:59 PM

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it does

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I will read it more thorough later and drop feedback

barren pendant Aug 22, 2023, 12:59 PM

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Thanks, I appreciate it.

rustic root Aug 22, 2023, 3:02 PM

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old pendant Curious would Bastion's Deathcounter still be affected by the crit effect of Pre...

yes, because it's explicitly a reduction.

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Paracausal Mod kills Deathcounter too, it's great

steady halo Aug 22, 2023, 10:10 PM

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Ah, yeah. PPC's crit also ignores reductions.
Did not notice that.

vapid fossil Aug 23, 2023, 12:14 AM

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barren pendant Thanks, I appreciate it.

Ah almost forgot! Yes I very much do get that vibe. It is a cutthroat way of life in the sense that people will fail to sharpen that one blade, but as long as that blade is sharpened and you at-least tried to become the blade all is good. Very fun visual with the shaping of it all. I do think there is also a somewhat unsettling undertone to this all. The strive for perfection and replacing everything imperfect in its pursuit as well as the narcissm this all causes

barren pendant Aug 23, 2023, 12:26 AM

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vapid fossil Ah almost forgot! Yes I very much do get that vibe. It is a cutthroat way of lif...

Oh yeah. The intent is that none are PERFECT.

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There's a bit of an edge to all of them but hopefully an interesting edge.

vapid fossil Aug 23, 2023, 12:26 AM

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nod nod

vapid fossil Aug 23, 2023, 12:27 AM

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barren pendant There's a bit of an edge to all of them but hopefully an interesting edge.

it also is an interesting contrast to what I perceive are the more "primal/wild" inspirations of the IF frames

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based on the material you are pulling from/the ideas

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or rather an interesting dichotomy for the setting

barren pendant Aug 23, 2023, 12:28 AM

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There is another Tuath that's going to be more on that end. An ecological research station that grew into a city.

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They do a lot of Megafauna/Megaflora wrangling

vapid fossil Aug 23, 2023, 12:29 AM

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excited for it

barren pendant Aug 23, 2023, 12:30 AM

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With a big point of contention being that they see Daire's work as Anthrochauvanist.

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Changing the world to fit humans instead of adapting ways of life to fit the world.

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If that makes sense?

vapid fossil Aug 23, 2023, 12:32 AM

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yes it does!

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especially fun aswell in the context of the naturalistic values that the celtic/gaelic mythology often portrays

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if that makes sense

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or atleast the perceived state of them

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sry I might just ramble with no sense

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Value is the wrong word. Maybe more the connection it has to the wild/"fey" and how this is subverted through the setting through clans such as the Daire (and it being scfi)

barren pendant Aug 23, 2023, 12:37 AM

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Yeah

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And I think part of that perception comes from it being a conquered culture. Freezing it in a moment and seen as 'Primitive'.

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So I'm trying to put spins on things not related to that, while not entirely discarding the culture.

vapid fossil Aug 23, 2023, 12:39 AM

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nod nod

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I think it works and is very fun/effective at that

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it is a very fun "what if" scenario portrayed within lancers setting

barren pendant Aug 23, 2023, 12:40 AM

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From there I need to finish off the space-based one...and the Ironleaf Collective, the entire reason this started. XD

vapid fossil Aug 23, 2023, 12:40 AM

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good luck with that! and I will look forward to it! 😌

barren pendant Aug 23, 2023, 12:41 AM

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I know what I'm doing with them for a capital. A big underground one.

vapid fossil Aug 23, 2023, 12:43 AM

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ohhh

old pendant Aug 23, 2023, 3:32 AM

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karmic gull deathcounter reduces a successful attack's damage to 0

Alright, thanks!

barren pendant Aug 23, 2023, 3:33 AM

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old pendant Alright, thanks!

PPC blows through death counter on a crit (But only a crit)

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I designed it as basically: 'On Crit: No, it Happens'

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Aces can't barrel roll it, death counter gets punched through.

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But banking on that crit is risky.

old pendant Aug 23, 2023, 3:42 AM

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barren pendant PPC blows through death counter on a crit (But only a crit)

Oh boy, gonna be interesting times for me when my Ptolemy player crits a Bastion with it

barren pendant Aug 23, 2023, 3:58 AM

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old pendant Oh boy, gonna be interesting times for me when my Ptolemy player crits a Bastion...

Yeah the PPC is a little inconsistent but when it works it REALLY works.

fleet steppe Aug 23, 2023, 1:20 PM

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my brain read PPC and went

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“wait is this battletech?”

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Ptolemy looks like a fun mech tbh

zenith niche Aug 23, 2023, 4:41 PM

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Oh, I play Star Fleet Battles on occasion, which ALSO has a PPC... one one of my favorite empires... but it works completely differently.

lapis sphinx Aug 24, 2023, 5:17 PM

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What happens if a Rasputin takes Miniaturization? Does it go 2, 1, 1/2, 1/2?

violet island Aug 24, 2023, 5:40 PM

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winks out of existence, shows up bewildered next narrative scene

lapis sphinx Aug 24, 2023, 5:44 PM

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-- SSC SWALLOWTAIL (RANGER VARIANT) @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  SSC Swallowtail 2, MOI HOUDINI 1, MOI MORGANA 2, IPS-N Nelson 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, Exogenesis Contract
[ TALENTS ]
  SPACEBORN 3, Infiltrator 2, Hunter 2, Duelist 2
[ STATS ]
  HULL:2 AGI:2 SYS:2 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:15 ARMOR:0
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:6 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:+3 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:7 EVA:12 EDEF:10 SENSE:20 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
  FLEX MOUNT: Blazer SMG
  MAIN MOUNT: War Pike // Overpower Caliber
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Blackstone Systems Upgrade, Le Fey System Refinement, Agravain Quarantine Module, Personalizations, Vulgate Virus Vault, Armament Redundancy

empty kraken Aug 24, 2023, 5:46 PM

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lapis sphinx What happens if a Rasputin takes Miniaturization? Does it go 2, 1, 1/2, 1/2?

Should hit the hard minimum of 1/2 and not get any smaller

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Though why you'd want to slap Mini on it is somewhat beyond me

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Razzie uses its chunk for things

zenith niche Aug 24, 2023, 5:50 PM

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Zemyla obviously wants to pilot a quail egg 🤣

lapis sphinx Aug 24, 2023, 6:01 PM

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An enby can't ask hypothetical questions?

carmine nymph Aug 24, 2023, 6:10 PM

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Miniaturization also doesn't actually cost a size category. You'd lose some of the perks of being BIG by occupying a size 2 space, but you'd still get to (for example) get the full +3 range from the frame trait.

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So your actual size would be the same as normal. Your space occupied would go 2, 1, 1/2, 1/2

karmic gull Aug 24, 2023, 6:15 PM

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take miniaturization and fomorian frame on the rasputin

violet island Aug 24, 2023, 6:51 PM

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BigSmall Rasputin

zenith niche Aug 24, 2023, 7:03 PM

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“What size are you?”
“Yes.”

lapis sphinx Aug 27, 2023, 12:09 PM

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So a miniaturized fomorian would still take up a size X space on the map, but would count as size X+1 for all beneficial effects and only be movable by size X+1 or greater.

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A miniature fomorian Lancaster could still carry a Barbarossa, for instance.

barren pendant Aug 27, 2023, 12:17 PM

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lapis sphinx So a miniaturized fomorian would still take up a size X space on the map, but wo...

Yep! It's a bit of an odd combo but it would work.

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Since miniaturized only applyes when it would be beneficial

lapis sphinx Aug 27, 2023, 12:19 PM

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It's a miniature giant space hamster.

fleet steppe Aug 29, 2023, 2:15 PM

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miniaturized fomorian minotaur

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it is bigger on the inside

barren pendant Aug 30, 2023, 11:10 AM

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Sorry btw that the Ironleaf Foundry writing hasn't been going as fast as I'd like/there's been gaps. Solo writing projects can get a bit overwhelming.

lapis sphinx Aug 30, 2023, 11:52 AM

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I understand completely.

vapid fossil Aug 30, 2023, 1:27 PM

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No worries at all!

fading jewel Aug 30, 2023, 1:42 PM

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Checking out the LimSpace retrograde minis for the first time and WHOA that's a Donner alright!

barren pendant Aug 30, 2023, 1:42 PM

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Come on, give it a hug 😛

fading jewel Aug 30, 2023, 1:44 PM

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I don't feel like being used as improvised repair parts just yet

steady halo Aug 30, 2023, 1:48 PM

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It's such a good Donner design.
Such an incredible, awful design for a mech

fading jewel Aug 30, 2023, 1:51 PM

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Also this wacky design for the Envy

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They gave the mf spines that can move??

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Unhinged

steady halo Aug 30, 2023, 1:58 PM

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I like the Comp/Con Envy design
but god damn this is good

zenith niche Aug 30, 2023, 5:58 PM

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IIRC, those are antennae

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Envy just has every receiver ever

vapid fossil Aug 30, 2023, 7:35 PM

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Me when I see mechs with beaks

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😌

empty kraken Aug 31, 2023, 12:18 AM

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fading jewel Checking out the LimSpace retrograde minis for the first time and WHOA that's a ...

DONNER pilots don't even like DONNER pilots.

carmine nymph Aug 31, 2023, 12:35 AM

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vapid fossil Me when I see mechs with beaks

Bird is, in fact, the word 😄

barren pendant Sep 1, 2023, 10:16 PM

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...man, it's tricky to thread the needle of 'writing people who are not antagonistic but do disagree with Union's non-interventionism' and trying to avoid 'Saying, out of universe, that Union is bad'.

opal forum Sep 1, 2023, 10:17 PM

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yeaaah

barren pendant Sep 1, 2023, 10:19 PM

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I'm pondering trying to make it more clearly in-universe by putting their philosophy on display via quotes rather than regular text/having the regular text more describe the sort of things they do.

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The general vibe for the faction is basicly:

"If Union were to talk to those who need help, would those oppressed be impressed by Union's Neutrality?"

barren pendant Sep 2, 2023, 8:26 AM

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"Union intervenes with violence against non-state actors, pirates and slaver groups alike. Union would not claim that this is immoral. However, when it comes to those who claim the sanctuary of Statehood, Union plays more carefully. They say that generational work must occur to transition the state into a better one, acting as if the lines on the map that encompass a state are a real difference between them and the groups they do bring arms against. If Union were to talk to those oppressed by the state, would they be impressed by this distinction?" -Siani 137, Fianna.

Alright, got myself a faction quote I think.

little wadi Sep 2, 2023, 3:20 PM

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Well, Union also doesn’t want to get involved for fear of imposing their culture and becoming colonizers

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Which I think is super valid

sly onyx Sep 2, 2023, 3:35 PM

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I think there's a missing noun in that last sentence? "If... state, would [whom?] be impressed by the distinction?"

barren pendant Sep 2, 2023, 10:30 PM

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little wadi Well, Union also doesn’t want to get involved for fear of imposing their culture...

Oh yes, this was less 'Union bad' and more 'there are other perspectives that might disagree with Union's perspective beyond LET ME COLONIZE PEOPLE, IT'S GOOD COLONIALISM I SWEAR'

barren pendant Sep 2, 2023, 10:31 PM

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sly onyx I think there's a missing noun in that last sentence? "If... state, would [whom?...

Whoops, yeah. That should say 'would they be impressed'

steep hazel Sep 2, 2023, 11:45 PM

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Thinking about like

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Including the factions from liminal space on my "factions and organizations" doc for my players, even if im not allowing non-base company stuff for the first campaigns I'm running (as to get people used to them)

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At the least downfall

barren pendant Sep 2, 2023, 11:48 PM

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MOI is pretty easy to slot in anywhere as honestly much more than 'mechs' they do 'Logistics' stuff. They're designed to be sorta 'they're everywhere but background players most of the time'.

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Downfall I think is the one that requires the most Active Slotting In.

steep hazel Sep 2, 2023, 11:49 PM

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Really? I think Downfall is the easiest to slot in without adding the mechs themself since they have a company they're directly tied to

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Followed by MOI, since its pretty easy to slot in, there's no strings

barren pendant Sep 2, 2023, 11:50 PM

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That's fair. I was thinking about Downfall doing Active Spy Stuff but I imagine a lot of them are just with IPS-N, watching things.

steep hazel Sep 2, 2023, 11:50 PM

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Yea

carmine nymph Sep 3, 2023, 12:04 AM

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Yep. Your “Average” DFG encounter will be a guy with a briefcase gathering info. Heck, they might act as a quest giver of sorts. There aren’t a TON of them, especially compared to their parent organization, but they can pop up just about anywhere.

coral mountain Sep 3, 2023, 12:38 AM

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Really love MO&S even if I'm not the biggest fans of their mech designs. I can appreciate the form and function of them though, just gameplay styles I'm not super interested in

empty kraken Sep 3, 2023, 3:41 AM

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My heart will never heal

little wadi Sep 3, 2023, 5:32 PM

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What action is the zou’s reshaper it’s not in comp/con

mossy vector Sep 3, 2023, 6:34 PM

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Gonna be honest, the mech art is kinda meh for me (except razputin), but I love the actual fluff and how it works. And who ever is making them for retrograde is really amping up the designs

carmine nymph Sep 3, 2023, 7:03 PM

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mossy vector Gonna be honest, the mech art is kinda meh for me (except razputin), but I love ...

The artist doing it for retrograde would be Retrograde himself. We got a bulk rate 😅

mossy lotus Sep 3, 2023, 7:37 PM

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Whenever I see the retro designs come out, I think "huh, that'd be cool to do", but also, LS stuff is going to be in the queue for a long time. 😛

karmic gull Sep 3, 2023, 8:38 PM

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I'm very much looking forward to retro's take on the pride, and the holiday, and the Houdini, and the temperance, and-

barren pendant Sep 3, 2023, 9:07 PM

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little wadi What action is the zou’s reshaper it’s not in comp/con

Reshaper? Which system would that be? Environmental Reformatting?

fading jewel Sep 4, 2023, 12:12 AM

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karmic gull I'm very much looking forward to retro's take on the pride, and the holiday, and...

Don't they already have Temp?

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Oh no that's the Avarice whoops

karmic gull Sep 4, 2023, 12:13 AM

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i very specifically wanna see mine fists

barren pendant Sep 4, 2023, 12:14 AM

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Sadly the alt-frames are not getting seperate ones, though the Avarice/Temperance are very similar looking frames.

karmic gull Sep 4, 2023, 12:15 AM

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aw :(

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no kelly then either?

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big sad

fading jewel Sep 4, 2023, 12:17 AM

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Damn no Jack 😔

barren pendant Sep 4, 2023, 2:57 AM

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Oh, that's nice. Liminal Space is about to hit Gold on Drive Thru, which will put us in the top 4% of stuff sold there.

opal forum Sep 4, 2023, 2:59 AM

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the people demand giant robots

lapis sphinx Sep 4, 2023, 3:34 AM

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I'm glad to have helped.

fleet steppe Sep 4, 2023, 4:26 AM

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same

lapis sphinx Sep 4, 2023, 2:22 PM

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What synergizes with the Pride? I want to wield 5 thermal pistols.

lapis sphinx Sep 4, 2023, 3:01 PM

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It went a different way than I expected, but that's okay. That's okay.

-- DOWNFALL PRIDE @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  HA SUNZI 2, IPS-N Raleigh 2, DOWNFALL PRIDE 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, Integrated Weapon
[ TALENTS ]
  Gunslinger 3, Crack Shot 3, Nuclear Cavalier 3
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:5
  TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+2
  SPD:5 EVA:10 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
  Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun
  INTEGRATED WEAPON: Microwave Projector
  FLEX MOUNT: Microwave Projector / Microwave Projector
  FLEX MOUNT: WARP RIFLE // Overpower Caliber
[ SYSTEMS ]
  “Roland” Chamber, Personalizations, Armament Redundancy, ACCELERATE, Custom Paint Job

lapis sphinx Sep 4, 2023, 3:26 PM

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I made a Vanguard Pride.

-- DOWNFALL PRIDE @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  DOWNFALL PRIDE 3, MOI NIMUE 2, MOI HOUDINI 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Sibyl Analysis Suite, Integrated Weapon
[ TALENTS ]
  Gunslinger 3, Combined Arms 2, Vanguard 2, Nuclear Cavalier 2
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:5
  TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+2
  SPD:5 EVA:10 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
  INTEGRATED WEAPON: Brightburn Blasters
  FLEX MOUNT: Brightburn Blasters / Brightburn Blasters
  FLEX MOUNT: Brightburn Blasters / Brightburn Blasters
[ SYSTEMS ]
  CHROMITE Core Detonators x4, Personalizations, Féth Fíada, Illusion Charges x5

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I initially misunderstood what Brightburn Blasters did, which is why I got Sibyl, but I made it work.

zenith niche Sep 4, 2023, 6:34 PM

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Wow, that’s a light show and a half!

lapis sphinx Sep 4, 2023, 7:31 PM

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I'm bright and shiny but also inside swirling mists.

native wasp Sep 4, 2023, 9:18 PM

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https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/396202/Field-Guide-Liminal-Space?affiliate_id=3028400

Hey y'all, Field Guide: Liminal Space is going on sale for a week, now's a great time to pick up the PDF or Print copy if you haven't already!

Field Guide: Liminal Space - Diamond Recreational Studios | DriveTh...

Field Guide: Liminal Space is a third-party supplement compatible with the incredible LANCER RPG published by Massif P

karmic gull Sep 4, 2023, 9:41 PM

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Ooh, nice

vapid fossil Sep 4, 2023, 10:01 PM

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pog

graceful kayak Sep 4, 2023, 10:27 PM

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Wooooo

coral mountain Sep 5, 2023, 1:31 AM

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coral mountain Really love MO&S even if I'm not the biggest fans of their mech designs. I can a...

I actually said this, but then remember how much I love the Frankenstein, Carmilla, Donner, Phoenix, and Zahhak

zenith niche Sep 5, 2023, 1:40 AM

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Vox, I believe your heart has healed

halcyon thorn Sep 5, 2023, 2:43 AM

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Jack and Kelly are like my fave mechs ever
Like
3 armor speed 5 melee frame?? 😳

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Camilla and Phoenix are also fun

fleet steppe Sep 5, 2023, 2:44 AM

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I’ve been running a caliban with wrath systems

halcyon thorn Sep 5, 2023, 2:46 AM

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~~you mean chess right~~

fleet steppe Sep 5, 2023, 2:46 AM

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no but also yes

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« NO ESCAPE »
-- IPS-N Caliban @ LL4 --
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N Caliban 2, DOWNFALL WRATH 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ TALENTS ]
Vanguard 3, Combined Arms 2, Siege Specialist 1, Spaceborn 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:2 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
STRUCTURE:4 HP:14 ARMOR:2
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:7 REPAIR:6
TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+1
SPD:4 EVA:10 EDEF:8 SENSE:3 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: HHS-075 “Flayer” Shotgun 3 3 1d6+1
HEAVY MOUNT: Thermal Lance 10 1d6+3 (Supermassive Mod) // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
Armament Redundancy, CHESS System, Custom Paint Job, Expansion/Inclusion Module, Personalizations

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realized expansion/inclusion module works on flayer shotgun too when core power is up 😄

zenith niche Sep 5, 2023, 3:42 AM

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Oh, OW

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Wrath is hilarious. Low-key, the frame is mediocre, but all the systems it has are crazy

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CHESS and Whirlwind Blade on 1 made a downright comical Everest

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Expansion Module and Firebrand on 2 made a REALLY happy Toku along with Chess

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Then a reaction move on 3

halcyon thorn Sep 5, 2023, 3:52 AM

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Honestly I quite like the wrath
slap a flamethrower on it and that's quite a bit of extra damage from multitargeting

empty kraken Sep 5, 2023, 5:50 AM

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coral mountain I actually said this, but then remember how much I love the Frankenstein, Carmil...

Carm!!!

My girl doesn't get a lot of love; I see more TEPES in the wild

halcyon thorn Sep 5, 2023, 5:51 AM

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Huh
I would have expected integrated weapon carmilla to be a big pick

empty kraken Sep 5, 2023, 5:54 AM

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The usual thing I hear is that prospective pilots are turned off by her style or don't understand it; in particular, "not being able to full tech" is a cited concern

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~~And then there's the mad lass whose Carm is on the back of the book, built full melee Carm~~

fading jewel Sep 5, 2023, 5:58 AM

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Integrated melee Sekhmet Carm is a staple build of mine yeah

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Oh wait no not Sekhmet, Artemis from Suldan

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Melee Carmilla is a menace

little wadi Sep 5, 2023, 6:18 AM

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That’s interesting

coral mountain Sep 5, 2023, 12:57 PM

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fading jewel Integrated melee Sekhmet Carm is a staple build of mine yeah

Does this just let you barrage + invade every turn?

karmic gull Sep 5, 2023, 2:31 PM

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@ iki so, since I saw you mentioning Merlin in the Legionnaire thread, did you ever look at the possibility of it giving a weapon to enemies instead?

barren pendant Sep 5, 2023, 2:32 PM

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karmic gull @ iki so, since I saw you mentioning Merlin in the Legionnaire thread, did you e...

hmm?

karmic gull Sep 5, 2023, 2:33 PM

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It's a very tight rope to walk but the thought came to mind of using its weapon gifting to fuck with enemies in some way

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Replace the bombard's cannon with a sword etc

elfin coyote Sep 5, 2023, 3:09 PM

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would be incredibly funny if it did

rustic root Sep 5, 2023, 3:19 PM

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Honestly the thing that stood out to me about the Merlin was that the premise didn't actually seem flawed

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Just the specifics of, y'know, the weapon it grants being a Superheavy Melee

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I almost wanna do my own attempt at Merlin, but that's probably a bad idea

zenith niche Sep 5, 2023, 4:05 PM

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IIRC, Merlin’s premise was just fine, balanced, and very useful to the party. The problem was that it wasn’t fun to be the Merlin’s pilot

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Which, shall we say, a problem

coral mountain Sep 5, 2023, 4:53 PM

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Does the Nimue's Slippery trait mean it is not treated as adjacent for effects that call it out?

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Nvm, just re-read the definition of adjacency:

Characters are considered adjacent to another
character or object when they are within one space of
it in any direction – even diagonal and vertical.

rustic root Sep 5, 2023, 7:05 PM

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zenith niche IIRC, Merlin’s premise was just fine, balanced, and very useful to the party. Th...

Tbh that's a license issue imo

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Cause like... Honestly you have described my feelings on half the supports in the game right there

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It's good, it helps the team, I would never actually want to be the person running it

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So it comes down to what else it comes with that makes you actually want to do that

karmic gull Sep 5, 2023, 7:09 PM

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As I recall iki telling it, people liked having the Merlin around, nobody liked playing the frame itself. Comparatively, like. I know someone who loves Lancaster, and someone who adores sunzi, and I enjoy swallowtail quite a bit

lapis sphinx Sep 5, 2023, 7:25 PM

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Yes, there are support frames which are fun to play.

fading jewel Sep 5, 2023, 9:10 PM

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coral mountain Does this just let you barrage + invade every turn?

If you hit pretty much yep

lapis sphinx Sep 5, 2023, 9:12 PM

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So it's kind of like Pesilat.

barren pendant Sep 6, 2023, 11:03 AM

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Alright, should have another of the Tuatha done by tommorow, possibly more.

vapid fossil Sep 6, 2023, 12:05 PM

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Yay

lapis sphinx Sep 7, 2023, 7:31 PM

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Does Sekhmet Justice work the way I hope? I'm hoping that if an ally is the closest target, the Justice just gives it soft cover.

fading jewel Sep 7, 2023, 7:32 PM

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Yup, sure you waste all of your attacks on em but at least they don't actually get damaged

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You can also Unmount while Sekhmet is still active then mount an already berserking Justice which is very funny

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Actually hold on this is a damn good idea I kinda wanna make this now

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....Wait is Dismount taken by the pilot or the mech

rustic root Sep 7, 2023, 7:35 PM

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Pilot

fading jewel Sep 7, 2023, 7:36 PM

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Oh sweet so it works

lapis sphinx Sep 7, 2023, 7:39 PM

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It also works with the Zou Yan.

karmic gull Sep 7, 2023, 7:44 PM

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Tcb sekhmet ZY

little wadi Sep 7, 2023, 8:13 PM

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Can a pilot like, guide the justice around ?

lapis sphinx Sep 7, 2023, 8:30 PM

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Hmm. Phoenix 2/Pegasus 1/Napoleon 3. It has the heat cap to wield a Displacer.

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Walking Armory lets it deal kinetic.

empty kraken Sep 7, 2023, 9:01 PM

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God. Point and click into the danger zone

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The Evil Once Vanquished Shall Rise Anew

lapis sphinx Sep 7, 2023, 9:13 PM

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-- MO & S PHOENIX @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  HORUS Pegasus 1, HA Napoleon 3, MO & S PHOENIX 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Integrated Weapon, Heatfall Coolant System
[ TALENTS ]
  Crack Shot 3, Walking Armory 3, Nuclear Cavalier 2, Gunslinger 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:2 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:6
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:15 ARMOR:0
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:14 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+3
  SPD:5 EVA:8 EDEF:8 SENSE:8 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
  INTEGRATED WEAPON: Nexus (Light)
  FLEX MOUNT: Smartgun (Conduction Rounds)
  MAIN MOUNT: Displacer
  MAIN MOUNT: Assault Rifle
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Hunter Lock, Personalizations, Armament Redundancy

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Suldan has a GMS Auxiliary Rifle that deals kinetic, though.

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Alternately, I could take Chess from Wrath.

zenith niche Sep 7, 2023, 9:27 PM

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Phoenix2/Wrath1
“How angry are you?”
“I hate everyone INDIVIDUALLY”

lapis sphinx Sep 7, 2023, 9:40 PM

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Yeah, I was thinking of something like this.

-- MO & S PHOENIX @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  MO & S PHOENIX 2, IPS-N Blackbeard 2, IPS-N Tortuga 1, DOWNFALL WRATH 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, Integrated Weapon
[ TALENTS ]
  Duelist 3, Combined Arms 3, Nuclear Cavalier 2, Vanguard 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:6 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:23 ARMOR:0
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:8
  TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:5 EVA:8 EDEF:8 SENSE:8 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
  INTEGRATED WEAPON: Bristlecrown Flechette Launcher
  FLEX MOUNT: Bristlecrown Flechette Launcher / Bristlecrown Flechette Launcher
  MAIN MOUNT: Deck-Sweeper Automatic Shotgun (Conduction Rounds)
  MAIN MOUNT: Chain Axe // Overpower Caliber
[ SYSTEMS ]
  CHESS System, Synthetic Muscle Netting, Personalizations, Armament Redundancy

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I don't think any Phoenix tokens have melee weapons.

lapis sphinx Sep 7, 2023, 10:13 PM

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Though the simplest thing is NucCav with either Decksweeper or Assault Cannon.

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Like just, fuck you, here's a handful of d6.

zenith niche Sep 7, 2023, 11:13 PM

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“Sir, we seem to have spotted a meteor flying at ground level.”
“Worse. It’s a melee Phoenix.”

empty kraken Sep 8, 2023, 2:46 AM

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Turning the artillery into melee always amuses me

lapis sphinx Sep 8, 2023, 3:09 AM

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It does have decent stats.

lapis sphinx Sep 9, 2023, 12:53 PM

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Necessary errata: Emergency-Vent Repair Standards needs to say "or weapons", because as written, the Latch Drone doesn't work with it.

empty kraken Sep 9, 2023, 2:30 PM

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I feel like this came up before

Like it could be clearer, and it ought to be clearer, but it is technically covered under the square-rectangle relationship; all weapons are systems

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Not all systems are weapons

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My apologies for the edit slipping by though it really should be worded more clearly

steady halo Sep 9, 2023, 2:34 PM

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...Weapons are systems?

barren pendant Sep 9, 2023, 2:37 PM

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They're not technically though they were at one point.

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Basicly: Part of this is due to us starting in earlier iterations of the game where wording was slightly different and not always catching where things technically changed. It something only affects systems, please do assume it also affects weapons as that's a mistake.

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I love lancer but its wording could really do with a cleanup. XD

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Systems(Stat)
Systems(Gear Type)
Systems(The Thing That Gives You Your Core Power)

Argleflargleblargle 😛

karmic gull Sep 9, 2023, 2:45 PM

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Skirmisher

steady halo Sep 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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empty kraken I feel like this came up before Like it could be clearer, and it ought to be cl...

Maybe with the Gluttony? I remember asking if the Gluttony could replenish Limited charges on weapons (I was asking for a Daisy Cutter gimmick), and you saying yes.

empty kraken Sep 9, 2023, 3:14 PM

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barren pendant They're not *technically* though they were at one point.

Well fuck me then xD

barren pendant Sep 9, 2023, 3:14 PM

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empty kraken Well fuck me then xD

Eh, shit happens.

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It's a minor fiddly area.

karmic gull Sep 9, 2023, 3:19 PM

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steady halo Maybe with the Gluttony? I remember asking if the Gluttony could replenish Limit...

goodeyes is the Gluttony meant to work with Daisy?

steady halo Sep 9, 2023, 3:20 PM

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Yup yup.

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Again, I asked and got an affirmative answer.

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(It also works with the other Limited weapons introduced by Liminal Spaces, like the one on the Houdini or the Zahhak (we think).)

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We don't have Liminal Spaces active on Comp/Con right now so we could be wrong/missing something

fading jewel Sep 9, 2023, 3:32 PM

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karmic gull <:goodeyes:644004061841981460> _is_ the Gluttony meant to work with Daisy?

Yeah Daisy Cutter Gluttony seems like an absolute menace

little wadi Sep 9, 2023, 3:48 PM

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I ran the daisy gluttony, it’s very strong

karmic gull Sep 9, 2023, 3:58 PM

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I need to yell at one of my tables

vapid fossil Sep 9, 2023, 8:10 PM

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Does Freyja give the mech the AI tag?

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I feel like it prob does but then it should be AI in the Upper right corner I think right or nah?

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(same for Medb and Setanta)

lapis sphinx Sep 9, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Yeah, some don't, like Uncle.

mossy vector Sep 9, 2023, 8:21 PM

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I think AI is mostly for those that can run a frame in a pilot stead.

vapid fossil Sep 9, 2023, 8:50 PM

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was just asking cause they show as SYSTEM instead of AI

barren pendant Sep 9, 2023, 10:01 PM

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vapid fossil

It does, yeah

graceful kayak Sep 10, 2023, 2:06 AM

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My player enjoys Lakeburst intangibility

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I should bring another Ferryman.

lapis sphinx Sep 11, 2023, 1:25 PM

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Dope Slap

-- DOWNFALL CHARITY @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  IPS-N Blackbeard 1, IPS-N Nelson 1, DOWNFALL LUST 3, IPS-N Zheng 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, Titanomachy Mesh
[ TALENTS ]
  Duelist 3, Hunter 3, Spaceborn 2, Pankrati 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:2 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:6 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:+3 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:6 EVA:9 EDEF:9 SENSE:10 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
  MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Tiger-Hunter Combat Sheathe (CUPID Mod) / Tactical Knife (CUPID Mod) // Overpower Caliber
  MAIN/AUX MOUNT: War Pike (CUPID Mod) / Tactical Knife (CUPID Mod)
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Scramble, Synthetic Muscle Netting, Total Strength Suite I, Personalizations, Armament Redundancy

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I can't believe Cupid Mod isn't unique.

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@barren pendant The Charity's save target isn't accurate in Comp/Con.

empty kraken Sep 11, 2023, 6:16 PM

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CHARITY!!!

lapis sphinx Sep 11, 2023, 6:21 PM

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Slap someone around and then ram and grapple them. Even if they escape the grapple and stand up, they're slowed.

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At higher LLs, you want 2 levels of Envy for the overwatch whip.

steady halo Sep 12, 2023, 11:43 PM

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So we went to DriveThruRPG to redownload the Liminal Spaces LCP because we need to archive some of our LCPs for storage space reasons and the .zip file with the lcp has the 1.0.0 version of the LPC, when the most current version (that we are aware of) is 1.0.3.

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The other version (which is 1.0.3 as near as we can tell) is a .rar file which. We can't put that into Comp/Con haha.

barren pendant Sep 12, 2023, 11:49 PM

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If you export it from the .rar it should be there in the right format.

steady halo Sep 12, 2023, 11:50 PM

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Annnnd how do we do that? We've never been particularly good with .rar files.

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We apologize for the trouble just
wegh

opal forum Sep 12, 2023, 11:58 PM

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You've got options
WinRAR
7zip
etc.

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Once you have those it's pretty much like extracting a zip file

steady halo Sep 13, 2023, 12:03 AM

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Using 7zip

vale ether Sep 13, 2023, 12:27 AM

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extract files is the dropdown option you're looking for in 7zip

violet island Sep 13, 2023, 1:07 AM

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i just dealt 40 damage to a morgana via atitans spinal lance

steady halo Sep 13, 2023, 1:36 AM

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vale ether extract files is the dropdown option you're looking for in 7zip

that's literally the option we chose 😭

vale ether Sep 13, 2023, 1:38 AM

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i'm not sure then. you could try winrar instead maybe?

vapid fossil Sep 13, 2023, 3:22 AM

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steady halo that's literally the option we chose 😭

btw here #mech-hangar message

barren pendant Sep 13, 2023, 7:22 AM

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steady halo So we went to DriveThruRPG to redownload the Liminal Spaces LCP because we need ...

Here you go, now that I'm back home I can toss it your way.

📎 Field_Guide_-_Liminal_Space-1.0.3.lcp

steady halo Sep 13, 2023, 1:06 PM

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Ah well, gratsi.

lapis sphinx Sep 13, 2023, 3:15 PM

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"If you saw two people named Oz and Silver, which one would you say is an NHP? I'd say Silver, wouldn't you? You'd be wrong though. It's Oz."

Jack Handy

zenith niche Sep 13, 2023, 3:54 PM

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lapis sphinx "If you saw two people named Oz and Silver, which one would you say is an NHP? I...

Oddly, I actually do know a guy named Silver

unborn hinge Sep 13, 2023, 3:55 PM

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SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARON

lapis sphinx Sep 13, 2023, 4:46 PM

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Made another Pride.

-- DOWNFALL PRIDE @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  IPS-N Tortuga 1, DOWNFALL PRIDE 3, MO & S HOLIDAY 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, Integrated Weapon
[ TALENTS ]
  Vanguard 3, Combined Arms 3, Nuclear Cavalier 2, Hunter 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:5
  TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+2
  SPD:5 EVA:10 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
  INTEGRATED WEAPON: Segment Knife
  FLEX MOUNT: Deck-Sweeper Automatic Shotgun // Overpower Caliber
  FLEX MOUNT: Brightburn Blasters / Brightburn Blasters
[ SYSTEMS ]
  BELLRINGER, Armament Redundancy, Personalizations, Type-I Flight System, Uplink Array

empty kraken Sep 13, 2023, 5:42 PM

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lapis sphinx "If you saw two people named Oz and Silver, which one would you say is an NHP? I...

Pfffft xD

Context?

lapis sphinx Sep 13, 2023, 5:42 PM

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empty kraken Sep 13, 2023, 6:14 PM

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Kinda curious to see what you might do with an OZYMANDIAS

lapis sphinx Sep 13, 2023, 7:29 PM

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Spotter and Autopod.

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Puppet Systems and Overwatch.

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Vorpal Gun.

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Exemplar 2 and Bonded 3 are other good options.

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Set it up so I have at least one weapon attack as a reaction every round.

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An example looks like this.

-- MOI OZYMANDIAS @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  IPS-N Tortuga 1, HORUS Goblin 1, MOI MORGANA 2, DOWNFALL LUST 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ TALENTS ]
  Spotter 3, Vanguard 3, Skirmisher 2, House Guard 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:2 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:2
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:+3 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:4 EVA:10 EDEF:9 SENSE:10 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
  FLEX MOUNT: Autopod // Overpower Caliber
  MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Deck-Sweeper Automatic Shotgun / Pistol // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
  H0R_OS System Upgrade I, Scramble, Monomania, Agravain Quarantine Module, Personalizations

violet island Sep 13, 2023, 7:45 PM

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dont be my player who was very excited about a reaction based shooter with stuff to do all the time but then realized they couldn't pay attention well enough to remember all the possible reactions they had

lapis sphinx Sep 13, 2023, 7:46 PM

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Yeah, this only has two.

violet island Sep 13, 2023, 7:47 PM

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she did a heavily involved flamel build and got hit with missing a lot of her triggers, which she felt bad about despite loving her build on paper

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we had hoped and planned it so that with all the triggers and reactions she'd feel more inclined to be mentally present on not-her-turn. Alas it did not work and her build's output suffered for it

lapis sphinx Sep 13, 2023, 8:08 PM

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I made another Charity without any hacking.

-- DOWNFALL CHARITY @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  SSC Monarch 1, SSC Mourning Cloak 1, HORUS Goblin 1, DOWNFALL LUST 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, Integrated Weapon
[ TALENTS ]
  Hunter 3, Combined Arms 3, Skirmisher 2, Stormbringer 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:6 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:+1 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:7 EVA:11 EDEF:7 SENSE:10 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
  INTEGRATED WEAPON: Tactical Knife
  MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Autopod (CUPID Mod) / Fold Knife (CUPID Mod) // Overpower Caliber
  MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Sharanga Missiles (CUPID Mod) / Vijaya Rockets (CUPID Mod)
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Monomania, Armament Redundancy, Personalizations, Custom Paint Job

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Basically, it starts with a Lock On and firing the Vijaya Rockets at the target at +2,, hopefully knocking it prone. Then there's a tac knife at +2 and a fold knife from Hunter 3 at +2, followed by a Sharanga at +2.

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Each of these except the second knocks it around and slows it.

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At the end of the turn, Monomania returns the lock on.

fleet steppe Sep 14, 2023, 11:55 PM

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wanted to up this from ll5 to ll7
I would swap out custom paint job for monomania
unsure about hase

what would be a good downfall licenses to pick up so I can grab a core bonus from them (GM was also nice and let me pick up superior logistics from suldan)

-- DOWNFALL CHARITY @ LL5 --
[ LICENSES ]
  DOWNFALL LUST 2, IPS-N Tortuga 1, MO & S RASPUTIN 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Superior Logistics
[ TALENTS ]
  Vanguard 3, Sysop 3, Spaceborn 2
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:1 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:6 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:+2 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:6 EVA:9 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:13
  MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Deck-Sweeper Automatic Shotgun / Trace Pistol
  MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Nexus (Hunter-Killer) / Nexus (Light)
[ SYSTEMS ]
  ADVISOR Suite, Custom Paint Job, GENERAL WINTER, 3 SP NHP from my GM that helps with both bolsters & lock-ons , Personalizations```

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the 3 SP NHP does this

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Whenever you Bolster an allied character, you gain all the same benefits as well. Whenever you Scan a hostile character, you may mark them. Whenever you or an ally hits a marked character with an attack, they may consume that mark to force the target to make an Agility save or be knocked prone. You may only have a single character marked this way at a time, and applying a mark to a different character removes it from the first.```

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was thinking elf sensor array or reconnaissance could be fun with them :3

fleet steppe Sep 15, 2023, 12:21 AM

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trying to go for bolster/lock-on/general support friend that just so happens to have a shotgun in case enemies get too close/threaten friends

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would love some advice/feedback :3

lapis sphinx Sep 15, 2023, 12:38 AM

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I would replace Custom Paint Job with Cupid Mod on the Trace Pistol.

lapis sphinx Sep 15, 2023, 1:28 AM

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Basically, when an enemy enters melee with you, Overwatch them, and knock them back. They lost their movement.

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Wait, that only applies to size 1/2,

barren pendant Sep 15, 2023, 6:14 AM

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Slowly chipping about at IF stuff and pondering a funny/slightly silly splashpage based on a previous idea.

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...pondering silly things for the IF writing. I'll likely mention in passing how weird it is for people to live near IF's main trade hubs. As you've got locations where 99.9% of the advertising isn't targeted at local people but visiting buyers.

So the average person has to deal with 'Buy the latest missile system' like they're in weird Liberatarian Land because it's not targeted at them.

Basicly getting art done of a trade show where you've a whole heap of mech stuff being advertised.

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https://www.japantimes.co.jp/uploads/imported_images/uploads/2023/04/np_file_219998.jpeg

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But meshing it with a cursed bit of Lancer Battlegroup lore.

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/566317602834743296/939266086380134430/unknown.png

sly onyx Sep 15, 2023, 6:22 AM

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I mean, there's plenty of things you could pull from real life for visual inspiration

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Like the ads on the DC metro that are for defense weapons systems

barren pendant Sep 15, 2023, 6:23 AM

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100%. My thoughts is just like, the most cringy combo of 'Anime Convention', 'Defense Contractor Advertising' and 'Tech Trade Show'. XD

sly onyx Sep 15, 2023, 6:24 AM

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Ah yes, the requisite anime con sword merchant, only in this case they're sized for mechs

barren pendant Sep 15, 2023, 6:25 AM

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I was thinking even worse: HA recruitment station with Ship Girl Cosplay out the front of it.

sly onyx Sep 15, 2023, 6:25 AM

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A pile of loose ARs with "DON'T TOUCH" written on a piece of paper next to it

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Oh yeah and they would for sure have that, maybe even mech girls of the Sherman and Barbie maybe?

barren pendant Sep 15, 2023, 6:26 AM

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Something like that. As I said: Most Cringy. It's not designed to make the Military Industrial Complex look cool 😛

sly onyx Sep 15, 2023, 6:27 AM

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Well, I eagerly await whatever comes of it, hopefully it like all the other art you've shown off will be great

barren pendant Sep 15, 2023, 6:28 AM

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I needed a 'weird thing' for Conchobar and a Notable Military Trade show is a perfect mix of 'militaristic' but also not 'Literally just soldiers'.

graceful kayak Sep 15, 2023, 6:33 AM

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ah yes

barren pendant Sep 15, 2023, 6:36 AM

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Seem like an interesting thing to get a picture for?

graceful kayak Sep 15, 2023, 6:39 AM

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Yeah, that's about as cringe you could make this work. There's been mechgirls too around, like, a few years ago too.

barren pendant Sep 15, 2023, 7:37 AM

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The artist has been contacted, the pact has been made.

graceful kayak Sep 15, 2023, 8:04 AM

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Yeeeeeeeeeees.

little wadi Sep 15, 2023, 12:18 PM

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So, melee hydra with some Solomon and Medea stuff

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How does that sound ?

barren pendant Sep 15, 2023, 12:25 PM

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Makes sense. Hydra adds durability and Medea/Solomon have a lot of close range drones that are already pretty durable

little wadi Sep 15, 2023, 12:34 PM

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I’ve got access to the brood molt and the brutus’s crusher exotics

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For weapons

vapid fossil Sep 15, 2023, 12:53 PM

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barren pendant ``` ...pondering silly things for the IF writing. I'll likely mention in passing...

Thats fun. Could also showcase the inherent disconnect between IF "expansion" and the way they have been living before that and maybe include some interplay/clashing of the "spaceborn" vs the ones planetside

fleet steppe Sep 15, 2023, 2:10 PM

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Hi

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I have learned of carmilla 3

fading jewel Sep 15, 2023, 2:11 PM

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Yes

fleet steppe Sep 15, 2023, 2:11 PM

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charity frame + mircalla-class multitask module looks amazing

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especially since I have rasputin’s general winter which is an invade that I can use to proc it!

fading jewel Sep 15, 2023, 2:14 PM

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Carm3 has some sweet gear yep

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Up there with Envy 3

fleet steppe Sep 15, 2023, 2:15 PM

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note to self: look up envy 3

zenith niche Sep 15, 2023, 2:42 PM

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sly onyx Oh yeah and they would for sure have that, maybe even mech girls of the Sherman ...

At some point in the intervening millennia, “I’m a Barbie girl, in a Barbie world” got rediscovered and VASTLY misinterpreted

zenith niche Sep 15, 2023, 2:44 PM

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fleet steppe note to self: look up envy 3

It has the “enemies aren’t allowed to do cool things” NHP and the “Hide or Jam” invasion

fleet steppe Sep 15, 2023, 4:16 PM

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dumb question

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would spotter 3 proc monomania

fading jewel Sep 15, 2023, 4:26 PM

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Do you mean if Monomania's Lock-On would allow you to Spotter 3 someone?

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Because I thought it would but the Lock On applies at end-of-turn rather than instantly

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So you don't get the chance to spend a quick to trigger Spotter 3

fleet steppe Sep 15, 2023, 4:32 PM

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I mean like

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QA lock-on
QA consume lock-on with spotter 3
would monomania reapply lock-on at end of turn

fading jewel Sep 15, 2023, 4:34 PM

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Oh I don't think so

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IIRC Monomania applies Lock-On if you consumed it but Spotter 3 makes your ally consume it instead

fleet steppe Sep 15, 2023, 4:40 PM

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aw rip

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thanks

lapis sphinx Sep 15, 2023, 4:43 PM

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So if your ally had Monomania, it would work.

fading jewel Sep 15, 2023, 4:45 PM

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Free Action though, so unless your turn is the same as their turn (Goblin Symbiosis) it wont work

fleet steppe Sep 15, 2023, 4:47 PM

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sadly I don’t think I could convince someone else in my party to pick up monomania

barren pendant Sep 17, 2023, 11:46 AM

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Amalgad Exhibition
With reconnection to Union came integration into a universe far bigger than a single system and the various Tuatha of Milesia have been forced to adapt to being rather small fish in the deep ocean that is space. Conchobar has however managed to carve out a unique place for itself among the planets of Union with the Amalgad Exhibition, a massive interplanetary military trade show. The Amalgad Exhibition leverages both Milesia’s proximity to a blink gate and Conchobar’s direct link to the history of the Union Space Program to add additional prestige to what is at its core a marketplace of military equipment.

While the Omninet does allow for experiencing the latest equipment in scenarios almost as real as being there, there is still no replacement to personal experience. More importantly, there is the certainty that what is being seen is not overselling the truth of the product, as was demonstrated with the failure of the HA Bradley upon its field trials. For that personal touch, representatives of militaries and mercenaries find themselves at the large compound that makes up the location of the Amalgad Exhibition.

Surrounded by kilometers of open land for weapon demonstrations, the Amalgad Exhibition is one of the few places in the universe where one can claim to have seen an orbital bombardment in person, demonstration cities quickly formed from whitewash before their devastation by conventional and unconventional arms alike, again and again. 

Inside the Amalgad is a garish but effective display, booths and shops surrounded by advertising and attractive salespeople. In recent years there has been an increase of social groups to the Exhibition, seeking to discuss their favorite equipment or show off home-made recreations of uniforms but current and historical. Conchobar is entirely happy with this, manna from people buying missiles and buying figurines spends just as well as each other.

A new thing, Conchobar's 'Interesting location/event'

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||Aka: 'Your lancers go to Military Comiket'||

vapid fossil Sep 17, 2023, 11:55 AM

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New lore yay!

barren pendant Sep 17, 2023, 11:56 AM

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I hope it seems interesting.

vapid fossil Sep 17, 2023, 12:10 PM

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will read in a sec!

lapis sphinx Sep 17, 2023, 12:26 PM

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Neat Pentagon Wars reference.

vapid fossil Sep 17, 2023, 12:35 PM

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ohh that is fun!

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I really like the angle!

barren pendant Sep 17, 2023, 12:36 PM

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lapis sphinx Neat Pentagon Wars reference.

It's a reference to that and also to the Worst Homebrew I ever made.

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XXf0wB0c4DwhTiXAIFRNklvZQTTMBUVhtQaQ1d42lgQ/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Harrison Armoury Bradley (Alt Everest)

Harrison Armoury BRADLEY (Alt Everest) (Everything/Nothing) Originally designed as an attempt to replace the EVEREST, the BRADLEY caused a stir with initial testing. Top of the line automated loading systems, incredible benchmark capabilities and robust protection that matched some of the best Ha...

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"Wow, that's a bullshit good statline. What's the traits like?"

Temperamental Autoloaders: At the start of the Bradley’s turn, it rolls 1d6. On a 5+, all Loading weapons it mounts immediately become loaded. The Bradley cannot choose to reload all Loading weapons when it Stabilizes.
Poor Stability: Whenever the Bradley loses Structure or fails an Agility check or save, it also falls prone.
Insufficient Environmental Protection: Whenever the Bradley Overheats or fails an Engineering Check or Save it also gains 2 Heat and cannot cool heat by any means other than overheating until the end of its next turn.

"Oh god."

vapid fossil Sep 17, 2023, 12:38 PM

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thats a fun lil nugget of Ikiryo lore

barren pendant Sep 17, 2023, 12:40 PM

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Active (Requires 1 Core Power): Benchmarking
Protocol, Efficient
Reload all loading weapons. Until the start of your next turn, ignore Poor Stability and Insufficient Environmental Protection.

I'm a big fan of the core power being literally just 'The one turn it Fucking Works Right'

lapis sphinx Sep 17, 2023, 12:47 PM

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Every day I'm shufflin'

-- IPS-N Nelson @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  IPS-N Nelson 3, MO & S HOLIDAY 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, Integrated Weapon
[ TALENTS ]
  Combined Arms 3, Hunter 3, Vanguard 2, Duelist 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:0
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:8 REPAIR:7
  TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:6 EVA:13 EDEF:7 SENSE:5 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
  INTEGRATED WEAPON: Power Knuckles
  FLEX MOUNT: Pistol / Wristgun
  MAIN/AUX MOUNT: “Silvernoose” Lasso / Power Knuckles // Overpower Caliber
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Oz/Silver Shuffle, Rapid Burst Jump Jet System, BELLRINGER, Personalizations, Armament Redundancy, Custom Paint Job

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Wait, I forgot stats.

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There we are.

lapis sphinx Sep 17, 2023, 1:13 PM

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Another shuffler.

-- DOWNFALL PRIDE @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  DOWNFALL PRIDE 3, MO & S HOLIDAY 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, Narrowband Targeting
[ TALENTS ]
  Gunslinger 3, Vanguard 3, Skirmisher 2, Nuclear Cavalier 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:8 REPAIR:5
  TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:6 EVA:12 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
  FLEX MOUNT: Brightburn Blasters / Brightburn Blasters // Overpower Caliber
  FLEX MOUNT: Brightburn Blasters / Brightburn Blasters
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Oz/Silver Shuffle, BELLRINGER, Personalizations, Armament Redundancy, Rapid Burst Jump Jet System, Custom Paint Job

zenith niche Sep 17, 2023, 3:31 PM

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I think you might be the first person I’ve seen use Narrowband

steady halo Sep 17, 2023, 3:32 PM

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Hmmmm...
Raleigh Narrowband shenanigans...

lapis sphinx Sep 17, 2023, 3:33 PM

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Yeah, it's really good on the Pride.

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It doesn't restrict bonus damage like pretty much everything else does, so the Pride boosts for 2d3+2d6 damage.

empty kraken Sep 17, 2023, 5:23 PM

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The Cha-cha Slide of death

barren pendant Sep 18, 2023, 6:16 AM

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Crimthainn
When Milesea was first colonized, before the many Túatha, the first colony was Crimthainn. The colonists huddled together in the wild of this new world, surrounded on all sides by Milesea’s megafauna. It was only through working together that the colony survived its first few winters and grew to be as successful as it is now.

For much of its history, Crimthainn was the closest the world had to a superpower. A new Túath would be formed for a specific role or to exploit a certain resource that the world required but in the end everything flowed back to Crimthainn as that is where the greatest population and the greatest political power was held. More than independent groups, many Túath were little more than offshoots and colonies of Crimthainn.

These days, however, Crimthainn is no longer a great power. Other Túatha have eclipsed it in power and while its initial location was essential for the success of the colony it was outdone by much more specialized tuatha, leaving it with only its historical value. It was effective and serviceable but at its core, not exceptional in any area. Others had better mineral access, others had better land for growing and building homes. While they could not outcompete it in every area, they could trade with other such Túatha and leave it without a major touchstone beyond its history.

This history of wealth shows in the lands of Crimthainn, large decorations celebrating the Union Space Program and the original colonists of the world visible in most places and the Mehirs that are traditional as the centerpiece of Milesian towns towering stories above those of other Túatha.

Despite that, they are not entirely left in the past. This history and prestige has resulted in most of the primary Embassies from extraplanetary groups to be found within the lands of Crimthainn. Where they may not have economic or military power, they are making a push for cultural power, to be seen as the true face of Milesia to other worlds.

And a new Tuatha!

vapid fossil Sep 18, 2023, 2:28 PM

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noice

barren pendant Sep 19, 2023, 10:16 AM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gR4-ZDM41H55U12MvjW9HFZ508U_v1CXdy3mGmBS734/edit?usp=sharing This is taking a bit but here is a compilation of the Tuatha I've done so far/the occasional vague note for my ideas for the rest of them. I know what I'm doing with like 2/3 and the last is a lot of 'Hmm...vague ideas but nothing concrete'.

Google Docs

Milesia Tuatha

Conchobar The Túath of Conchobar is one of the oldest upon milesia and the one that claims it has the most true connection to the Union Space Program ideals. A militaristic society, Conchobar believes that conflict is not only inevitable, it is necessary. To strip humanity of conflict is simply a...

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As always, feedback appreciated. Or thoughts on 'stuff you'd like to see' for the various locations.

little wadi Sep 20, 2023, 5:17 PM

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How do sticky charges work with the stort ? If I choose not to unload them can I use the true silver to reload another weapon ?

barren pendant Sep 20, 2023, 8:10 PM

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Dunno, not read the latest version of the stort 😛

lapis sphinx Sep 20, 2023, 8:13 PM

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No, they're still loading weapons. You get the loading effect.

fading jewel Sep 21, 2023, 8:03 AM

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Hmm, Gauss Rifle Tokugawa....

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If your GM decides that it's somehow a good idea to field 6 armor enemies that's a lot of fucking burn

blazing mural Sep 21, 2023, 2:42 PM

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listen sometimes the party needs to be reminded to use FragSig. Kinetically

carmine nymph Sep 21, 2023, 2:51 PM

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blazing mural listen sometimes the party needs to be reminded to use FragSig. Kinetically

My best one-liner in a Lancer game to date was “I’m going to Fragment Signal to kill him, because I’m pretty sure it’s the most insulting thing I have.”

During the Tepes playtest

violet island Sep 22, 2023, 2:20 PM

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does the Morgana's meteor summon ability end prematurely if the morgana itself is destroyed? Or is it a pending resolution regardless?

barren pendant Sep 22, 2023, 2:29 PM

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It still goes through.

violet island Sep 22, 2023, 2:30 PM

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eyyy

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he'll enjoy that

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would be weird if the meteor just kinda backed off

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"My bad guys"

barren pendant Sep 22, 2023, 2:34 PM

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That and meteor + core power has a non-zero chance of flat destroying you from overheating 😛

steep hazel Sep 23, 2023, 7:43 AM

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Just had the heinous idea of MOS mechs named Earhart and Elvis

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:3

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I just think it'd be funny

fading jewel Sep 24, 2023, 10:40 AM

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Y'know

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It's kinda embarrasing how I completely forgot that Backoff Propellant existed for my Plasma Wakizashi Celeste build

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Anyways, yoink

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(Also Backoff doesn't stack if your target is also within Line 5 right)

fading jewel Sep 24, 2023, 12:22 PM

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Ok my original idea for the build has been thrown aside in favor of the sheer hilarity of Warp Rifle Persecution Drive Celeste

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Hurls you through blinkspace
Fucking follows you

empty kraken Sep 24, 2023, 6:39 PM

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Ahahaha

steep hazel Sep 26, 2023, 12:04 AM

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I think I've asked this before but fan art and takes on the the mechs of Liminal Space is allowed, right?

barren pendant Sep 26, 2023, 12:04 AM

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Of course!

steep hazel Sep 26, 2023, 12:05 AM

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:) im doing some practice sketches and im referencing some of the Liminal mechs for it

empty kraken Sep 26, 2023, 1:39 AM

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OHHH???

barren pendant Sep 26, 2023, 2:32 AM

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steep hazel >:) im doing some practice sketches and im referencing some of the Liminal mechs...

One restriction: You have to show us the cool art 😛

steep hazel Sep 26, 2023, 2:42 AM

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once its done, i gotchu

carmine nymph Sep 26, 2023, 3:05 AM

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Agreed with my fellow devs. As long as we get to see it, fire away!

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I say only half-jokingly that the best part of doing this project was being able to dump buckets of money onto my favorite artists to bring forth my creations. I will ALWAYS love seeing more of them ❤️

steep hazel Sep 26, 2023, 8:13 AM

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itll be something im working on over the next few days, during the time to and from work, and before my shifts

barren pendant Sep 26, 2023, 9:41 AM

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Alright, so tonight I'm putting together a compilation document for Ironleaf Foundry. I've got the parts all over the place but don't have a singular document to throw someone when they ask about it.

graceful kayak Sep 26, 2023, 3:56 PM

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Leaf made of irons...

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All together, at last.

steep hazel Sep 26, 2023, 7:52 PM

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@carmine nymph @empty kraken @barren pendant

empty kraken Sep 26, 2023, 7:55 PM

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Mm?

steep hazel Sep 26, 2023, 7:56 PM

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The image isn't sending 😠

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THERE WE GO

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Study Sketch of the sloth

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empty kraken Sep 26, 2023, 8:41 PM

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NICE

carmine nymph Sep 26, 2023, 8:47 PM

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Beefy Boi!

violet island Sep 27, 2023, 12:36 AM

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Question

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the Recall Becon for Illiusion charges

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it mentions the beacon's burst

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does that mean burst 1?

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ah, nvm, clarity gained

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just couldnt find it in foundry

violet island Sep 27, 2023, 12:58 AM

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Follow up question

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The Mordren Class NHP use the Third Wound to make a target use a Super Heavy or does it require a barrage

fading jewel Sep 27, 2023, 1:04 AM

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Law of Blades can't make em use a Sheavy, so probably not

violet island Sep 27, 2023, 1:06 AM

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Yeah that's my default, was just thinking it takes 3 sunk rounds to get there, maybe intent is it can?

mild estuary Sep 27, 2023, 1:16 AM

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Superheavies can only be fired by Barrage unless noted otherwise

barren pendant Sep 27, 2023, 1:38 AM

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steep hazel

Very cool!

barren pendant Sep 27, 2023, 1:38 AM

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violet island The Mordren Class NHP use the Third Wound to make a target use a Super Heavy or ...

Sadly it can't. You can do many things but you can't make the Demolisher bonk himself with his hammer 😛

violet island Sep 27, 2023, 1:39 AM

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tyty

stoic gulch Sep 27, 2023, 6:50 AM

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Read the latest Ironleaf LCP and is the Rowan just Bridget from Guilty Gear?

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(It looks cool as all hell btw)

fading jewel Sep 27, 2023, 9:18 AM

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Yes

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Tis' the Bracket

barren pendant Sep 27, 2023, 9:41 AM

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stoic gulch Read the latest Ironleaf LCP and is the Rowan just Bridget from Guilty Gear?

No comment, you can't prove anything.

More seriously: It was me attempting to make a Fighting Game Mech that sorta morphed into Bridget along the way.

stoic gulch Sep 27, 2023, 9:42 AM

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Ah, yeah that explains a lot, I do kind of wonder why it's called the Rowan specifically though

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Gonna offer the 1.5 LCP's contents to the game I'm running as well

barren pendant Sep 27, 2023, 9:44 AM

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stoic gulch Ah, yeah that explains a lot, I do kind of wonder why it's called the Rowan spec...

Because it's a fighting game mech and rowan fruit is salty and bitter 😛

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To be more serious/to have less of a post-hoc justification: Not all of the IF mechs have a heap of symbolism in the name. They're more on the SSC end there.

barren pendant Sep 27, 2023, 12:50 PM

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Fianna Bands

While not formally a member of Union, Milesia is still affected by its politics. Recently there has been major upswings in support for the New Solidarity Movement among the youth of Milesia, with many applying to campaign or join the Department of Justice and Human Rights, with them seeing themselves as heavily interconnected to the state.

However, even outside of this, the New Solidarity Movement has made significant inroads within the various anarchist groups of Milesia. These groups, named after mythological bands of heroes, tend to be opposed to the current state of Union. They do believe in the Pillars but see Union's stance as too liberal and accepting of injustice when it wears the face of states. This has prompted them to collect support for groups like the Ungrateful, or to smuggle themselves far from home to bring the arms of Milesia to bear against fascism and corpostates in their many forms.

Officially, Milesia disapproves of these actions, wanting to avoid being directly dragged into battles by directly wwarring against some of the true powers of Union space. Despite this official condemnation though, they have become very popular among the people of the world and it is an open secret that several Tuatha are quietly providing material support to these bands.

"Union intervenes with violence against non-state actors, pirates and slaver groups alike. Union would not claim that this is immoral. However, when it comes to those who claim the sanctuary of Statehood, Union plays more carefully. They say that generational work must occur to transition the state into a better one, acting as if the lines on the map that encompass a state are a real difference between them and the groups they do bring arms against. If Union were to talk to those oppressed by the state, would they be impressed by this distinction?" -Siani 137, Fianna.

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A non-Tuatha thing for IF!

steady halo Sep 27, 2023, 1:53 PM

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barren pendant To be more serious/to have less of a post-hoc justification: Not all of the IF m...

Honestly SSC seems to have more symbolism in their names than like.
IPS-N.

fading jewel Sep 27, 2023, 2:37 PM

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WDYM shotguns isn't the first thing you think of when you hear the spanish word for turtle

steep hazel Sep 27, 2023, 2:40 PM

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fading jewel WDYM shotguns isn't the first thing you think of when you hear the spanish word ...

Tortuga is also named that for the island

fading jewel Sep 27, 2023, 2:41 PM

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Tbh Vlad is at least very on point

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🥁

steep hazel Sep 27, 2023, 2:41 PM

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steep hazel Tortuga is also named that for the island

The island in Haiti that was one of the biggest hubs/sites for Caribbean era piracy during the 17th century

blazing mural Sep 27, 2023, 3:26 PM

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barren pendant Because it's a fighting game mech and rowan fruit is *salty and bitter* 😛

and here my guess was "to round out the tree cast if Oak, Ash, and Hawthorne are already taken", since rowan trees were supposed to help make a barrier against evil

barren pendant Sep 27, 2023, 10:43 PM

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blazing mural and here my guess was "to round out the tree cast if Oak, Ash, and Hawthorne are...

Oak ended up getting cut! It was planned for a while but didn't work out so well.

blazing mural Sep 27, 2023, 10:52 PM

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pika

barren pendant Sep 27, 2023, 10:53 PM

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Basicly: The Oak's thing was that it could turn any weapon into a turret

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Core System: "Loblolly" Autoturret

Passive: The Oak has access to a powerful subsapient turret capable of engaging with heavy armour on an even footing, which it can deploy to a free space in Range 5 and Line of Sight as a Quick Action. The Oak can deploy any number of Autoturrets but can only have one autoturret in play at a time and creating a second one causes the first one to shut down and be removed from play. The Oak and Allied Characters can use the Loblolly for Hard Cover and if the Oak can Fly or Hover, the Loblolly can Hover.

Autoturret (Size 2, 20 HP, Evasion 5, 2 Armour, Tags: Deployable)

By default, the Autoturret mounts the Needlefire PDW, which can be attacked with normally but with line of sight and Range traced from the Autoturrets location. When the Autoturret is deployed the Oak can instead choose to replace the Needlefire PDW with the weapons in any one weapon mount, which trace Line of Sight, Threat and Range from the Autoturret's location for as long as it is deployed. The chosen weapons are destroyed when the Autoturret is destroyed by a character other than the Oak itself. Attacks made with these weapons are still treated as attacks from your mech for all purposes.

Needlefire PDW
Main CQB, Reliable 2
Range 8, Threat 3
1d6 Energy Damage

Active(1 CP): Circle The Wagons
Protocol
For the rest of the scene, the Loblolly projects a burst 2 shield. Whenever the Loblolly or an allied character in the affected area would take damage, roll 1d6 and reduce the damage suffered by that amount.

stoic gulch Sep 28, 2023, 11:20 AM

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Starbursts aren't objects right

barren pendant Sep 28, 2023, 11:32 AM

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They're not. They're just a marker.

lapis sphinx Sep 28, 2023, 12:58 PM

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Yeah, Ralf tried that and ran into the same pitfalls.

steep hazel Sep 28, 2023, 6:12 PM

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barren pendant Basicly: The Oak's thing was that it could turn any weapon into a turret

Wonder if the concepts behind oak could be recycled into the basis for an alt 🤔

barren pendant Sep 28, 2023, 9:29 PM

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steep hazel Wonder if the concepts behind oak could be recycled into the basis for an alt 🤔

Potentially, though it was a Deployable-focused mech and IF right now has all of 1 deployable in its lineup so it would likely be rather a change.

steep hazel Sep 28, 2023, 9:32 PM

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Yea

steep hazel Sep 28, 2023, 9:32 PM

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barren pendant Potentially, though it was a Deployable-focused mech and IF right now has all of...

I was imagining like, a nexus focused mech perhaps (i forget if there's one in IF) that cam basically turn their nexuses into the hydras nexus-drones

graceful kayak Sep 28, 2023, 9:33 PM

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oh!

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been toying with automated animations and starting with my party's weapons.

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For Claíomh Solais.

barren pendant Sep 28, 2023, 9:34 PM

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nice

barren pendant Sep 28, 2023, 10:59 PM

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steep hazel I was imagining like, a nexus focused mech perhaps (i forget if there's one in I...

The Rowan is nexus focused but yeah...I could see it done as an alt, though I'd likely need to move away from Deployable focused. Still, not undealable.

steep hazel Sep 28, 2023, 11:15 PM

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Yea, very fair

barren pendant Sep 28, 2023, 11:25 PM

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I could see it done as an alt for the Poppy

steep hazel Sep 29, 2023, 1:36 AM

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god the poppy is cool

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ALL OF THESE ARE SOO COOL

barren pendant Sep 29, 2023, 1:36 AM

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Good

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Hmm...alt of the poppy trading out its 'I do mobile shooting' with 'Hey, who wants to make a Sentry Nest?'

steep hazel Sep 29, 2023, 1:40 AM

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that could be real cool

steep hazel Sep 29, 2023, 1:44 AM

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barren pendant Hmm...alt of the poppy trading out its 'I do mobile shooting' with 'Hey, who wan...

my brain says "what if it was called The IF Sumac"

barren pendant Sep 29, 2023, 1:45 AM

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Okay so my vague thoughts is to not put the gun turret as a 'can put any gun on it'

blazing mural Sep 29, 2023, 1:48 AM

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Make it a specific mount, then?

barren pendant Sep 29, 2023, 8:02 AM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aYbdrZusOqXvjZJY1Mama3dU1SzjF-wYSQG2lBgG7TM/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

IF OAK

OAK(POPPY ALT FRAME) Defender/Artillery Fluff Fluff Fluff CORE STATS Size: 1/2 Armor: 0 HULL HP: 8 Repair Cap: 6 AGILITY Evasion: 8 Speed: 4 Save Target: 11 Sensors: 5 SYSTEMS E-Defense: 10 Tech Attack: -1 SP: 6 ENGINEERING Heat Cap: 6 TRAITS TOWER DEFENSE The Oak’s Deployables h...

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A first draft

fading jewel Sep 29, 2023, 8:23 AM

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Finally, Bloons TD 7

barren pendant Sep 29, 2023, 9:14 AM

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fading jewel Finally, Bloons TD 7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q6CVJA9HHE

YouTube

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"Buildin' a Sentry." (Engineer Voice Lines)

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obtuse willow Sep 29, 2023, 3:10 PM

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"If that don't work, use more gun" is basically the Poppy's design philosophy so this fits

lapis sphinx Sep 30, 2023, 11:31 AM

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-- SSC Orchis @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  SSC Black Witch 2, HORUS Goblin 2, HORUS Lich 1, MOI MEDEA 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, The Lesson of the Open Door
[ TALENTS ]
  Combined Arms 3, Centimane 3, Duelist 2, House Guard 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:8 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:-1 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:6 EVA:12 EDEF:10 SENSE:10 SAVE:17
[ WEAPONS ]
  MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Spartoi Blade / Nexus (Light)
[ SYSTEMS ]
  H0R_OS System Upgrade II, Wandering Nightmare, Ferrous Lash, Personalizations, Armament Redundancy, Rapid Burst Jump Jet System, Pattern-A Smoke Charges x4

barren pendant Sep 30, 2023, 11:31 AM

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Oooh, Spartoi Blade Orchis is interesting.

lapis sphinx Sep 30, 2023, 11:33 AM

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It relies too much on crit fishing, though.

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Demolitionist Avarice..,

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It means you have to track which mines haven't detonated vs which ones have, though.

fading jewel Sep 30, 2023, 11:51 AM

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A small price to pay for +2 damage each round

barren pendant Sep 30, 2023, 11:56 AM

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Tallaght
To offworlders who see worlds as singular objects, Tallaght is seen by many as the capital of the world. Statues and cultural artifacts line its street, with diplomats from a thousand worlds intermingling in its wonderful green spaces and airy halls. However, the people of Milesia know that this is mostly an illusion created by the city itself.

In truth, Tallaght is a glorified tourist destination, a museum and theme part of Milesia’s history. It makes for a perfect backdrop for dramatic diplomatic talks but the city has not been the site of major scientific or industrial work for many generations. However, there are few in the city that would honestly complain about that, as Milesia’s nature as a borderline core world means that such work is not required for the city to survive like it would be out on a far frontier.

To live in Tallaght is to work in politics or to support those who work in politics. The city is perpetually awake, subaltern drones scurrying through the streets to deliver food from a massive variety of restaurants to exhausted lawyers in the middle of a multi-day negotiation or politicians preparing for an upcoming campaign. Hordes of locals act as support and staff for diplomats from across Union, enjoying the excitement of being part of a political scene so much larger than a single world.

The busiest of people are, of course, spies and counteragents. Tallaght has a very advanced criminal underground that many diplomats leverage to gain advantages on their foes. Traffic delays, bugging and forcing a politician to demonstrate they don’t know how to drink a beer like a human being can all do catastrophic damage to campaigns both for personal office and for broader causes. The government of Tallaght tends to treat such actions with a light touch, as long as no physical harm has been done; After all, a little danger only adds to the appeal of the city.

And another city on Milesia!

sly onyx Sep 30, 2023, 5:33 PM

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I feel like I remember seeing a headline about a politician not knowing how to drink beer but I cannot remember the details, and also that's bringing up in my mind that one of Australia's PMs or MPs holds the recorded record for fastest beer sculled

barren pendant Oct 1, 2023, 12:06 AM

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It's a pretty common Aussie thing (And I do live in Australia) XD

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Pollies are kinda infamous for being shit at drinking beer for some god forsaken reason.

barren pendant Oct 1, 2023, 10:41 AM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KRrMyrwAHvUWluMpdCmnBT1ycJANBYLvL-p9MWkpStw/edit?usp=sharing A few Random Cultural Things for Milesia!

Google Docs

Milesia Culture Things

The Piston Treaty For a space-faring world descended from the astronauts of the Union Space Program, the militarization of space is no strange realm for Milesia and its Túatha. The orbital production bays of the world hold some of the few remaining needleships, still functional for generation af...

stoic gulch Oct 2, 2023, 2:18 AM

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Thought about sticking Ace 2 on a Lily to solve it slow speed but I just realized that you can just fire a missile rack behind your feet and stormbringer 2 across the map

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Truly the Demoman experience

barren pendant Oct 2, 2023, 4:03 AM

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stoic gulch Thought about sticking Ace 2 on a Lily to solve it slow speed but I just realize...

100% The Lily has low base speed but it's not a slow mech 😛

halcyon thorn Oct 2, 2023, 7:45 AM

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Does anyone know offhand what the most recent version of the IF LCP is? Wanted to double check myself before loading the one I have into my foundry server

obtuse willow Oct 2, 2023, 11:11 AM

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halcyon thorn Does anyone know offhand what the most recent version of the IF LCP is? Wanted t...

should be 1.0.5 I believe

if you have the exotics you're good to go

lapis sphinx Oct 2, 2023, 11:22 AM

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Where's the Milesia LCP?

barren pendant Oct 2, 2023, 11:22 AM

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lapis sphinx Where's the Milesia LCP?

That's Ironleaf Foundry!

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📎 ironleaf-foundry_1.0.5.lcp

steep hazel Oct 2, 2023, 2:49 PM

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So i wanna make sure

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Ironleaf Foundrys naming scheme is just plants, right?

barren pendant Oct 2, 2023, 2:49 PM

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Yep!

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They're like SSC in having a pretty simple naming scheme.

lapis sphinx Oct 2, 2023, 4:03 PM

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Does Demon Core use charges, or is it 1/scene independent of it?

barren pendant Oct 2, 2023, 4:04 PM

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lapis sphinx Does Demon Core use charges, or is it 1/scene independent of it?

It uses charges but you can only do it 1/scene because Big.

lapis sphinx Oct 2, 2023, 4:04 PM

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Okay.

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Is Perfection of Form +1 the number or +1 cc_accuracy ?

barren pendant Oct 2, 2023, 4:15 PM

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Flat+1

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Hence applying to all saves and checks

lapis sphinx Oct 2, 2023, 4:20 PM

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-- IF Lily @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  IPS-N Caliban 3, SSC Black Witch 1, IF Lily 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ TALENTS ]
  Vanguard 3, Nuclear Cavalier 2, Stormbringer 2, Ace 1, Exemplar 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:19 ARMOR:2
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:7
  TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:4 EVA:8 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:15
[ WEAPONS ]
  FLEX MOUNT: Missile Rack / Missile Rack
  MAIN MOUNT: Magnetic Cannon
  HEAVY MOUNT: HHS-155 CANNIBAL // Overpower Caliber, Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Claymore Buckler, Hardpoint Reinforcement, Ferrous Lash, Rapid Burst Jump Jet System

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Actually, Walking Armory would be hilarious with Magnetic Cannon.

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It's basically a better Caliban if you just want a size 1/2 striker.

steep hazel Oct 2, 2023, 4:43 PM

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barren pendant They're like SSC in having a pretty simple naming scheme.

jots down Narcissus/Daffodil in my future schemes

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:)

lapis sphinx Oct 2, 2023, 5:50 PM

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-- IF Rowan @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  IPS-N Blackbeard 2, IPS-N Nelson 1, IPS-N Caliban 1, IF Rowan 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Mount Retrofitting, Titanomachy Mesh
[ TALENTS ]
  Duelist 3, Skirmisher 3, Hunter 2, Juggernaut 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:7 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:6 EVA:12 EDEF:8 SENSE:5 SAVE:15
[ WEAPONS ]
  RETROFITTED MOUNT: War Pike (Supermassive Mod) / Bristlecrown Flechette Launcher // Mount Retrofitting
  HEAVY MOUNT: Nanocarbon Sword
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Synthetic Muscle Netting, Bulwark Mods, Personalizations, Armament Redundancy, Type-I Flight System, Custom Paint Job

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If a Rowan with Titanomachy Mesh and a Claymore Buckler rams someone and causes them to fly, does the second ram happen while it's flying and make them slowed?

halcyon thorn Oct 3, 2023, 2:55 AM

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@obtuse willow Just plugged 1.0.5 in, and noticed that the Champion's Blade and the Spear Of Flame's unique Devoted actions have the same effect text (the whole 'bring the blade down, damage, OS for your pal' bundle)
The spear's supposed to have a big blitz of line areas, right?
The spear also has a 1d6+3 (and 1 burn) damage die, and Ikiryo's last preview of it I could find had it at 1d3+3 (and 1 burn) (this might just be a change I have missed, apologies if so)

obtuse willow Oct 3, 2023, 2:59 AM

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probably a copy-paste error, noted for next version

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thank you

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 3:01 AM

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obtuse willow probably a copy-paste error, noted for next version

I think I've got 1-2 planned changes on that front so I might toss that to you after work. It's mostly just some Minor Wording Things.

obtuse willow Oct 3, 2023, 3:01 AM

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yea np

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should oak go in as well

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or is it still too drafty

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 3:01 AM

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Still too drafty

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I need to get a lot more feedback on that before I'm confident

obtuse willow Oct 3, 2023, 3:02 AM

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halcyon thorn Oct 3, 2023, 3:11 AM

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Side note, I still find it kind of funny that the Claoimh Solais, noted Dollar Store Champion's Blade, hits a lot harder

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 3:12 AM

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That's 100% intended.

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MOI views it as a weapon.

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IF views it as a way to protect others

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If that remotely makes sense?

halcyon thorn Oct 3, 2023, 3:16 AM

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That's a cool touch!
We're doing a Liminal Space (+ Suldan but I am only doing one or the other in a given build for my own sanity) campaign and my character's weapon of choice is a Claoimh Solais, and their whole deal is that they're an Albatross that's kind of given up on their ideals to pursue revenge against someone who destroyed their Makteba
And the eventual conclusion to their arc is likely going to be them learning that protecting the innocent is more important than punishing the guilty
So swapping over from the Solais to the Champion's Blade at that point might be neat 🤔

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 3:17 AM

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Nice!

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That's very thematic.

halcyon thorn Oct 3, 2023, 3:52 AM

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On the other end of LS mechanics, I'm preparing a oneshot fight today and I think I am cooking
Security to give Chessmaster a sword
Security to give Chessmaster Judge
Flying Vehicle Landship

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 3:53 AM

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Hahahahah

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Chessmaster Judge is just pure 'No, I think I'm playing the game, you're not'

halcyon thorn Oct 3, 2023, 3:54 AM

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I've recently been very 4e brained and Security Chessmaster was the closest I could get to Warlord

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 3:55 AM

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That'll do it.

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Also: Flying Vehicle Landship as like a Gunship or such is very cool.

halcyon thorn Oct 3, 2023, 4:11 AM

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Mhm
Its a VTOL basically
'Cloud Knight' Lady Marie Ororojo is bringing it to the tourney instead of a mech

lapis sphinx Oct 3, 2023, 11:37 AM

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I was 4E-pilled long before I was Lancer-pilled.

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 11:38 AM

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More than fair

lapis sphinx Oct 3, 2023, 11:39 AM

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halcyon thorn That's a cool touch! We're doing a Liminal Space (+ Suldan but I am only doing o...

I think the GMS stuff from Suldan is great to use with other stuff. I have put a Kangto in so many homebrew mechs.

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 11:45 AM

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Speaking of GMS stuff, I have a couple I'm pondering (In part to give the Oak and the Rowen a couple more motions)

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GMS Big Fucking Bomb (Name Pending)
1 SP, Deployable, Limited 2, Unique
Deploy a Size 1 Big Fucking Bomb in an adjacent space, which is an object with 5 Evasion and 10 HP. When the GMS Bomb is destroyed or suffers Burn Damage, it detonates over a Burst 2 area, dealing 1d6+4 Energy Damage to all characters in the affected area. A successful agility save halves the damage.

lapis sphinx Oct 3, 2023, 11:50 AM

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It should also deal knockback 1.

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 11:51 AM

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Hahahah

obtuse willow Oct 3, 2023, 11:51 AM

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energy and not explosive? interesting

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 11:51 AM

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Could make it explosive. I don't recall why it's energy.

lapis sphinx Oct 3, 2023, 11:52 AM

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With knockback, both the Rowan and Lily would have reasons to want it.

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 11:52 AM

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That's fair. Do you think 'some more GMS toys' would be something people would be interested in?

lapis sphinx Oct 3, 2023, 11:53 AM

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Yes, we would.

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I've wanted an auxiliary cannon that isn't limited.

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 11:53 AM

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Cool. I was looking at 'A few systems' and 'filling in some weapon spots that could do with filling'

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As I feel like weapons are mostly well filled out.

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But systems could do with a hair more. Especially in the 1 SP area.

obtuse willow Oct 3, 2023, 12:00 PM

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I always want more GMS stuff tbh

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 12:01 PM

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Any particular areas you'd like filled/anywhere you feel is undertouched on as a general vibe?

lapis sphinx Oct 3, 2023, 12:21 PM

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I'd ask for a GMS invasion option, but that steps on the Chomolungma's toes some and/or makes it too powerful.

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A GMS Bolster option instead?

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 12:23 PM

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nods

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I could do something techie, if not invade.

lapis sphinx Oct 3, 2023, 12:26 PM

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Also, more 1 SP options. After Personalization, Armament Redundancy, and Custom Paint Job, the well runs dry for things that aren't flavor.

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 12:26 PM

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Yeah, they're all solid but 1 SP is sorta an area I'd like to play in.

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Like said GMS Big Fucking Bomb

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Vague pondering: Smoke Grenade but only for Smart and Tech Stuff.

zenith niche Oct 3, 2023, 12:42 PM

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Bonus points if you make it a glitter bomb

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 12:44 PM

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PATTERN-A ECLIPSE CHARGES
1 SP, LIMITED 3, UNIQUE

Eclipse Grenade(Grenade): Throw an Eclipse Grenade within Range 5. Attacks with Tech actions and Smart weapons against characters and objects within a Blast 2 area benefit have +1 Difficulty until the end of your next turn, at which point the effect disperses.

Eclipse Mine (Mine): This mine detonates when any allied character moves over or adjacent to it. Attacks with Tech actions and Smart weapons against characters and objects within a Burst 3 area have +1 Difficulty until the end of the detonating character’s next turn, at which point the smoke disperses.

1 SP or 2, you think? It's more situational than smoke but good in that situation

lapis sphinx Oct 3, 2023, 1:05 PM

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I feel like it should be 1 SP and Limited 2 maybe.

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 1:17 PM

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Cool Name Here
1 SP, Unique
You can target characters in Range 20 with the Lock On Quick Tech, regardless of Line of Sight and Sensors.

steady halo Oct 3, 2023, 1:26 PM

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That seems fairly strong maybe? Not sure.

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Our main concern is less so the distance (whether anyone can shoot that far is a bit of a toss-up) but moreso the ignoring Line of Sight.

karmic gull Oct 3, 2023, 1:31 PM

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the range 20 also makes it very good if you have a mech that wants to do shenanigans at long range but has shit sensors

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like the bonded amr spotter raleigh pair

steady halo Oct 3, 2023, 1:32 PM

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Ah, yeah, this'd be super good on AMR Raleigh haha

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Other possible standouts we were thinking of were the Monarch, Pegasus, and (maybe a bit ironically) the Swallowtail.

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The Monarch gets to simply say Line Of Sight isn't real (though only with launchers), the Pegasus is quite hungry for target locks with its 10 Sensors, and the Swallowtail's already effective Lock On capabilities would not hate less reasons to have to move.

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 1:38 PM

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That's fair. Might scrap the LOS part and just make it the sensors part.

lapis sphinx Oct 3, 2023, 1:46 PM

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-- IF Clover @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  DOWNFALL ACEDIA 1, IF Clover 2, DOWNFALL LUST 2, HORUS Goblin 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Integrated Weapon, Narrowband Targeting
[ TALENTS ]
  Gunslinger 3, Spotter 3, Combined Arms 2, Hunter 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:2
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:7
  TECH ATK:-1 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:5 EVA:10 EDEF:6 SENSE:10 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
  INTEGRATED WEAPON: Silver Hand
  FLEX MOUNT: Bracketing Bomblets / Bracketing Bomblets
  MAIN MOUNT: Autopod
  AUX/AUX MOUNT: Silver Hand / Silver Hand
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Monomania, Rope-A-Dope, Personalizations, Armament Redundancy, Iron Will

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I originally wanted it to use Perfection of Spirit; that'll have to wait until LL9, I suppose.

severe spoke Oct 3, 2023, 1:51 PM

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Saw the barrow stuff, mega exciting!

zenith niche Oct 3, 2023, 1:51 PM

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Huh, Bracketing with Narrowband sounds fun

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 2:06 PM

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severe spoke Saw the barrow stuff, mega exciting!

Nice! I'm glad people are liking some Fluff Stuff. There's 3 flashpoints and I'm kinda pleased with all 3 of them. XD

severe spoke Oct 3, 2023, 2:06 PM

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Whats a flashpoint exactly? 02_take_notes

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 2:06 PM

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Basicly 'a setup for an adventure'

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J8DAzZqbObyH1N_hY0uRNDcs_8qQziC6LPXM1g6WzOI/edit?usp=drive_link So like, the Barrow is one of them.

Google Docs

Airgead Barrow

Airgead Barrow - The Barrow At The Center Of A World Despite the initial surveys of Milesia showing a wealth of natural resources and a vibrant unique ecosystem, the most shocking revelation was to be found only after they set foot on the world. Upon the crust of the planet, explorations found ...

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With the other two being the Iron Crown and Project Avalon.

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rVzcONuwhXyLpdhgY4RMtkewPha8kmS1tZL3G00pXlc/edit?usp=drive_link

Google Docs

Iron Crown

The Iron Crown The Iron Crown is seen by many as the premier competition of Ironleaf Foundry’s many loves of the extreme and the showy. A titanic arena combat allowing armoured vehicles, frames and pilots from across Union and even beyond, broadcast far and wide. It has become a place for small c...

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wd6xZYDMQPlf-S46ZDkFclITWetTDjMZqQLs_HTZ1w8/edit?usp=drive_link

Google Docs

Project Avalon. Status: [REDACTED]

Disclaimer: Project Avalon is a flashpoint that plays heavily into body horror, eugenics and medical experimentation. It is more than understandable that some players may find that uncomfortable and to not want to engage with this flashpoint. Dreams Become Nightmares The Galton Research Group is ...

lapis sphinx Oct 3, 2023, 2:20 PM

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Narrowband is also hilarious with Oz/Silver Shuffle.

-- DOWNFALL LUST @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  DOWNFALL LUST 2, MO & S HOLIDAY 3, DOWNFALL WRATH 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, Narrowband Targeting
[ TALENTS ]
  Vanguard 3, Gunslinger 3, Skirmisher 2, Stormbringer 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:2 ENGI:2
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:20 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:6 REPAIR:5
  TECH ATK:+3 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:6 EVA:10 EDEF:11 SENSE:10 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
  AUX/AUX MOUNT: Wristgun / Pistol // Overpower Caliber
  MAIN MOUNT: Huckleberry Revolver-Carbine
  FLEX MOUNT: Pistol / Wristgun
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Monomania, BELLRINGER, Oz/Silver Shuffle, Scramble, Personalizations, CHESS System

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OSS says the attack can't deal bonus damage, but Narrowband doesn't.

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Similarly:

-- DOWNFALL PRIDE @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  DOWNFALL PRIDE 3, MO & S HOLIDAY 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, Narrowband Targeting
[ TALENTS ]
  Vanguard 3, Gunslinger 3, Skirmisher 3
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:1
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:5
  TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+2
  SPD:5 EVA:10 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
  FLEX MOUNT: Brightburn Blasters / Brightburn Blasters // Overpower Caliber
  FLEX MOUNT: Brightburn Blasters / Brightburn Blasters
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Uplink Array, BELLRINGER, Oz/Silver Shuffle, Personalizations, Armament Redundancy, Custom Paint Job

zenith niche Oct 3, 2023, 2:59 PM

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Oh, THAT is evil

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I’d totally take Wrath 1 for CHESS as the seventh LL. Basically get move-boost-Barrage every turn

lapis sphinx Oct 3, 2023, 3:05 PM

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But yeah, each boost deals 1d3 and 1d3+2d6 at +1 cc_accuracy .

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And Impaired.

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Wait, Vanguard. +2.

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Sauterelle needs to deal non-Burn damage as well, in case it gets bonus damage. It's like the Krakatoa that way.

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 3:11 PM

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lapis sphinx Sauterelle needs to deal non-Burn damage as well, in case it gets bonus damage. ...

Oddly enough, the game does have a rule there. If something would do bonus damage and doesn't have a damge type it can increase, it deals kinetic.

mild estuary Oct 3, 2023, 3:12 PM

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barren pendant ``` GMS Big Fucking Bomb (Name Pending) 1 SP, Deployable, Limited 2, Unique Depl...

I honestly feel that there should be some kind of activation action, kinda like the Raleigh's Breaching charge

barren pendant Oct 3, 2023, 3:17 PM

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But yeah, for now: Sleep. If anyone has thoughts on either 'Stuff they'd like for basic GMS things' or 'how those flashpoints read', I'd love it. XD

mild estuary Oct 3, 2023, 3:22 PM

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Additional drones, maybe?

lapis sphinx Oct 3, 2023, 3:52 PM

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-- HORUS Gorgon @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  HORUS Gorgon 3, MO & S PHOENIX 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints, The Lesson of the Open Door
[ TALENTS ]
  Tactician 3, Siege Specialist 2, Combined Arms 2, Nuclear Cavalier 2
[ STATS ]
  HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:25 ARMOR:0
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:9 REPAIR:5
  TECH ATK:+1 LIMITED:+2
  SPD:4 EVA:8 EDEF:12 SENSE:8 SAVE:17
[ WEAPONS ]
  FLEX MOUNT: Vorpal Gun (Conduction Rounds)
  MAIN MOUNT: Helen-Class Rail Cannon
  MAIN MOUNT: VULCAN Gauss Cannon
[ SYSTEMS ]
  SCYLLA-Class NHP, BACKFIRE Failsafe x3, Personalizations, Armament Redundancy

empty kraken Oct 3, 2023, 4:26 PM

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What xD

lapis sphinx Oct 3, 2023, 5:57 PM

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When they try and fail to remove the spike, they take 2 more heat.

sturdy thorn Oct 3, 2023, 7:12 PM

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Since I see a lot of discussion of it here, I figured I would ask: Getting into a game that is allowing Ironleaf content, with two of us leaning in hard on a couple of the mechs (Rose, and Lily are confirmed, with others maybe taking bits and bobs from other licenses, but we're real early days), would this be the place to relay feedback for Ironleaf Foundry stuff?

opal forum Oct 3, 2023, 7:13 PM

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Yep!

sturdy thorn Oct 3, 2023, 7:15 PM

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Good to know! I'll try to make sure we're detailed with notes, perhaps even number calculations as they feel needed, especially when it's going to be a homebrewed campaign.

obtuse willow Oct 3, 2023, 7:43 PM

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ping ikiryo for IF feedback, ping me for any lcp issues/discrepancies

sturdy thorn Oct 3, 2023, 8:12 PM

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Noting that!

steep hazel Oct 3, 2023, 10:35 PM

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Could we potentially also get the milisea, ironleaf document and lcps pinned? @barren pendant

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Since the pin is for liminal

barren pendant Oct 4, 2023, 12:19 AM

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steep hazel Could we potentially also get the milisea, ironleaf document and lcps pinned? <@...

Sure, when I get back from work.

steep hazel Oct 4, 2023, 1:38 AM

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ty!

barren pendant Oct 4, 2023, 7:30 AM

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steep hazel ty!

Alright, putting together a document to compile all this.

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jcKV4xrOI7SVgclud3R_fCwZ9MLgfwQi3-9wJy8-zX4/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

By Star and Melody

By Star and Melody Those Who Walk Away From Union: A Foundational Myth You Cannot Escape Yourself: The History of Milesia The Tribes of Milesia: Tuatha Various Cultural Things: In Need Of A Cool Chapter Name The Barrow At The Center Of A World: Airgead Barrow Glory Across The Stars: The Iron Crow...

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@steep hazel There we go. A Provisional 'get stuff joined up' document.

barren pendant Oct 4, 2023, 7:41 AM

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barren pendant https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jcKV4xrOI7SVgclud3R_fCwZ9MLgfwQi3-9wJy8-zX4/...

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People can find both rules and fluff stuff here and well...I always appreciate feedback. Especially on the fluff, as it's the area I'm least confident in.

severe spoke Oct 5, 2023, 2:45 AM

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wheres the Ironleaf LCP? I'd love to read it up

stoic gulch Oct 5, 2023, 3:21 AM

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barren pendant https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jcKV4xrOI7SVgclud3R_fCwZ9MLgfwQi3-9wJy8-zX4/...

I think there's a link to it in this link, it also includes all of the lore that isn't already in the LCP

barren pendant Oct 5, 2023, 3:26 AM

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severe spoke wheres the Ironleaf LCP? I'd love to read it up

It's in the above document!

steep hazel Oct 5, 2023, 4:15 AM

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barren pendant It's in the above document!

hey, which chapter has lore on what exactly the ironleaf foundry is as a company? im trying to find it and cant, and i might jusat be tired lol

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oh! found it!

barren pendant Oct 5, 2023, 4:43 AM

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Feedback is always appreciated

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I hope you like it

severe spoke Oct 5, 2023, 5:05 AM

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Ohh thank

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The art is just amazin WiggleWiggle

barren pendant Oct 5, 2023, 5:05 AM

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There's a new big bit being drawn right now!

fading jewel Oct 5, 2023, 6:22 AM

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IDK guys I'm not sure if there's enough heat-clearing in this build

[ LICENSES ]
  HA Genghis 3, MO & S PHOENIX 3, DOWNFALL WRATH 1, DOWNFALL GLUTTONY 2
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints, Ultra-Hardened Chassis, Superior by Design
[ TALENTS ]
  Nuclear Cavalier 3, Technophile 3, Grease Monkey 3, BLACK THUMB 2, Vanguard 1
[ STATS ]
  HULL:5 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:6
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:3
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:16 REPAIR:6
  TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+3
  SPD:3 EVA:6 EDEF:8 SENSE:5 SAVE:15
[ WEAPONS ]
  Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun
  FLEX MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
  MAIN MOUNT: Heartburn Cannon
  HEAVY MOUNT: Plasma Thrower // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Enlightenment-Class NHP, AGNI-Class NHP x4, BACKFIRE Failsafe x4, CHESS System, Auto-Cooler, Armament Redundancy```

barren pendant Oct 5, 2023, 6:35 AM

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I have discovered a very funny issue with doing Lancer Writing: If at any point you have a Labor Union and the Interplanetary Government in the same paragraph it gets confusing.

fading jewel Oct 5, 2023, 6:36 AM

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The Union of laborers and the Union of Union

barren pendant Oct 5, 2023, 6:38 AM

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Writing up the history of the actual group the Ironleaf Foundry is named after for the 'hey, here is an overview of each of the Tuatha'.

steep hazel Oct 5, 2023, 6:39 AM

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barren pendant Feedback is always appreciated

hey wait, going through the mechs again, i could have sworm the poppy had art?

barren pendant Oct 5, 2023, 6:39 AM

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And their starting point as a seperate group to another Tuatha is basicly 'Labor strike resulted in people going Fuck It, We're Now An Independent Group'

barren pendant Oct 5, 2023, 6:39 AM

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steep hazel hey wait, going through the mechs again, i could have sworm the poppy had art?

It does, did I not get it included?

steep hazel Oct 5, 2023, 6:39 AM

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its not in the doc!

barren pendant Oct 5, 2023, 6:41 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729896234877452371/1116137327434149948/ikiryo_ironleaf_comm.jpg?ex=65306163&is=651dec63&hm=b89cc58c97fed9a4fa6ecd86df7681d783ff97f7fc417a2fdceba6c629d0acd1&

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Poppy Art

steep hazel Oct 5, 2023, 6:41 AM

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yea, i literally have commented on it bring cool, i knew ive seen it before

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steep hazel Oct 5, 2023, 6:42 AM

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steep hazel hey wait, going through the mechs again, i could have sworm the poppy had art?

(as seen here)

barren pendant Oct 5, 2023, 6:42 AM

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I'll be sure to add that in later!

barren pendant Oct 5, 2023, 7:01 AM

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And a history of the actual like...guys Ironleaf Foundry is named after. XD

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Ironleaf Collective

Originally designed as little more than a mining outpost of Crimthainn and not even given a formal name as an independent Túath, Outpost Tríocha became the center of a conflict over the rights of its workers that would forge it into what would become the Ironleaf Collective.
Under pressure by other Túatha and its position very clearly in decline, Crimthainn was pushing its outposts to the limit. Rest hours were cut and food quality slipped as the outpost’s numbers were pushed beyond what it was ever designed for. Situated on excellent mineral veins, it was designed for mining and forging, producing plates of material for vehicles and exoskeletons in its glowing forges. 

As limits were pushed, accidents skyrocketed and the Metalworkers Union of the forges called for a strike. Crimthainn responded instead by sending troops to break the strike and install martial law, forcing the workers from their own factories to bring in non-Union workers. Unwilling to take this lying down, the strike escalated to physical violence and to gunfire and after the skirmish the strikebreakers found themselves outnumbered and outgunned. Outpost Tríocha declared itself an independent Túath, taking the new name from the symbol on the banners of the Metalworkers Union that had fought for them.

The modern Ironleaf Collective has not forgotten this past, even with the safety and security that the interplanetary community has brought the planet. While much of the material they work with now comes from orbital sources, the factories of the Ironleaf Collective still glow as new materials are produced by research laboratories and development agreements between sources across reaches of space introduce new techniques to even old veterans.

This mining history is often quite visible upon the land of the Ironleaf Collective, with many of the older cities at least partially underground as they moved into the space that the mines excavated. It’s said that one could live their entire life without ever venturing into the light of day within the Collective, if one chose to do so.

vapid fossil Oct 5, 2023, 7:48 AM

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barren pendant https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729896234877452371/1116137327434149948/ik...

Triangle minigun 😌

last pagoda Oct 5, 2023, 10:34 AM

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Always love a triangle minigun

little wadi Oct 5, 2023, 11:08 AM

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How does the persecution drive work with sekhmet, let’s say during the movement I get closer to another character other than the triggering npc.

stoic gulch Oct 5, 2023, 12:21 PM

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Doesn't the overwatch attack trigger before the movement?

little wadi Oct 5, 2023, 1:43 PM

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Yeah but can you follow after

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What if another enemy is closer during the movement do you have to stop

barren pendant Oct 5, 2023, 1:43 PM

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I think @empty kraken would need to be the one to weigh in on that.

severe spoke Oct 5, 2023, 5:17 PM

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barren pendant https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729896234877452371/1116137327434149948/ik...

Amazin WiggleWiggle tho its not updated in the doc yet SadCat

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Gonna share this with my group tho

empty kraken Oct 6, 2023, 3:25 AM

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little wadi What if another enemy is closer during the movement do you have to stop

Gut check says 'no' as long as you end close to the one that triggered it, RAW reading may be some time as new job is beating my soul into the fucking floor

stoic gulch Oct 6, 2023, 4:54 AM

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I am loving Ironleaf so far because it allows me to suggest making a combination mech with another PC

barren pendant Oct 6, 2023, 4:57 AM

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Oh?

stoic gulch Oct 6, 2023, 5:03 AM

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As written Perfection of Spirit doesn't set a cap on how many allies can be in one space so I'm pretty sure that if a party was somehow motivated enough you can in fact just go full super robot
Combination mech LL6 party that's
Size 3 Drake
Tortuga with Perfection of Spirit
Rose with perfection of spirit
Orchis with perfection of spirit

They all stand in the same space, granting soft cover to everyone, the Tortuga exists to hack people to shreds and add an overwatch to anyone approaching to combo with the Rose's
The Orchis repositions enemies and further turns off tech attacks by giving everyone Black Ice, and gives everyone perfect parry

The Drake creates more spaces to defend in, and grants resistances to all AoE and has a big gun as a final attack, also the Orchis and (maybe HOROS1 Tort) can speed everyone up by yanking the Drake around, since the perfection of spirit's wording says that the PC with said core bonus moves whenever the ally moves, this implies that it includes forced movement

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Is it optimal? Probably not, and it's LL6 anyway and requires you to sweettalk three other people, but it's a funny possibility

barren pendant Oct 6, 2023, 5:18 AM

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Hahahahah

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That's hilarious.

karmic gull Oct 6, 2023, 6:58 AM

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a paracausal bombard starts salivating on the moon

steep hazel Oct 7, 2023, 3:43 AM

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barren pendant And their starting point as a seperate group to another Tuatha is basicly 'Labor...

Also, we love a protest /lh

steep hazel Oct 7, 2023, 4:11 AM

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GOD the lily is so fun

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I've been theorycrafting concepts for it for hours on and off

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This whole manufacterer really is just so hardcore

barren pendant Oct 7, 2023, 4:18 AM

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I'm glad you like it!

steep hazel Oct 7, 2023, 1:38 PM

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I DO think the Lily is my favorite

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But thats cause i have a really huge love for grenades and such

barren pendant Oct 7, 2023, 1:38 PM

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I am also pondering a talent.

steep hazel Oct 7, 2023, 1:48 PM

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Oh?

barren pendant Oct 7, 2023, 1:50 PM

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Familiar (Rank I): On a full repair, you can, install a prototype drone system with the following profile. It requires no SP to install.
    Quick Action, Drone (Size 1/2, HP 10+Grit, 10 E-defense/Evasion,  Hover)
    You unleash your prototype drone to an empty space within sensor range. The drone has can hover, and hostile characters adjacent to it are Impaired. You can move the drone to a new space in your sensor range or recall it as a quick action. 
Cat Sí (Rank II): On a full repair, you can modify and tweak essential components of your system in order to increase the effectiveness of your prototype drone. Choose 2 of the following:
    -Camouflage Systems: The prototype drone is Invisible.
    -Technician Drone: Friendly characters adjacent to your prototype drone have +1 accuracy on checks and saves.
    -Laser Array: Hostile characters that starts their turn adjacent to the prototype drone or moves adjacent to it for the first time in a round must succeed on a Hull save or take 4 energy damage.
    -Advanced Propulsion: At the begining of your turn you can move this drone up to 3 spaces as a protocol.
Cath Palug (Rank III): Your drone has been updated with heavy weapons and reinforcements to allow it to punch through anything it cannot blast apart. As a Quick Action, you can direct your drone to blitz across a Line 5 area from itself so fast it counts as teleporting. All characters in the affected area suffer 4 AP kinetic, energy or explosive damage (Choose when the drone moves) and are knocked prone, with the drone stopping in any space within or adjacent to the line. A successful hull save halves the damage and negates the prone.

A Cool Unique Drone you can put on your mech.

steep hazel Oct 7, 2023, 1:52 PM

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Ohhhhh fun

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Fills an engineer-like niche of "give me even more of this cool thing, let me get good at it, let me build it"

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This LOOKS really fun

barren pendant Oct 7, 2023, 1:53 PM

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Yeah. Still pondering some of the specifics. The intent is that it's gunna be a Pretty Damn Good Drone but I'm not yet 100% set on Cath Palug.

steep hazel Oct 7, 2023, 1:54 PM

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It does seem a little. Sudden?

obtuse willow Oct 7, 2023, 2:00 PM

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steep hazel I DO think the Lily is my favorite

lily is izaak's favorite, poppy is mine

I've jokingly threatened iki with poppy nerfs not making it into the lcp

barren pendant Oct 7, 2023, 2:00 PM

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Speaking of which: There is likely a small poppy change going through, purely to support it's alt frame.

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Basicly: Making a couple of its systems work with both 'Adjacent' or 'Within range' 😛

obtuse willow Oct 7, 2023, 2:01 PM

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that makes sense

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also, oak real goodeyes

barren pendant Oct 7, 2023, 2:01 PM

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So you'll be able to Brrrt for allies adjacent to a deployable regardless of range

obtuse willow Oct 7, 2023, 2:01 PM

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that fucks

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the vulcan is a really good defender trick as is so I'm really excited to see it on an oak

steep hazel Oct 7, 2023, 3:11 PM

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OHHHHHHH SHIT YEA

steep hazel Oct 7, 2023, 3:12 PM

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obtuse willow lily is izaak's favorite, poppy is mine I've jokingly threatened iki with poppy...

Look, i wonder, if the person (me) who made a Green Arrow Iskander Alt and a Limited System focused Everest Alt likes grenades /lh

~~FBI, IN LANCER~~

karmic gull Oct 7, 2023, 4:26 PM

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barren pendant ``` Familiar (Rank I): On a full repair, you can, install a prototype drone syst...

So a second hydra mandatory talent? :p

karmic gull Oct 7, 2023, 4:27 PM

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obtuse willow lily is izaak's favorite, poppy is mine I've jokingly threatened iki with poppy...

Lily fills the part of my heart that spent entirely too long fucking around on pl_upward with much glee

barren pendant Oct 7, 2023, 4:36 PM

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karmic gull So a second hydra mandatory talent? :p

Bah, Humbug 😛

barren pendant Oct 7, 2023, 4:36 PM

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karmic gull Lily fills the part of my heart that spent entirely too long fucking around on p...

Time for Highertower.Lancer

karmic gull Oct 7, 2023, 4:37 PM

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barren pendant Time for Highertower.Lancer

So Ralf's 24 hours of lancer then

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:p

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Just an unending holdout

barren pendant Oct 7, 2023, 4:43 PM

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More seriously: Not 100% sure on that drone talent. Talents are an area where I consistently have issues making a design fully work.

karmic gull Oct 7, 2023, 4:44 PM

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I like the concept of an engineer talent for drones, it's just a very tricky needle to thread for sure to make sure it isn't outclassing or obsoleting other drones, or becoming a mandatory talent for certain mechs, imo

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And hydra is always gonna throw a wrench in the plans of anything drone based

rustic root Oct 7, 2023, 4:45 PM

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Tbh my favorite IF mech is clover

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Makes me sad it doesn't seem to be the community favorite

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Size 1/2 punchy dudes represent!

barren pendant Oct 7, 2023, 5:04 PM

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karmic gull I like the concept of an engineer talent for drones, it's just a very tricky nee...

Yeah, that's fair. Though I feel like it likely SHOULD be better than many drones due to the high cost of '3 talent points'.

karmic gull Oct 7, 2023, 5:06 PM

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I'm not sure if talent points or LLs are more valuable in this equation, tbh. Talent points rarely have dead levels, but licenses can have levels where you never use anything in them, just taking them to get a later piece

barren pendant Oct 7, 2023, 5:08 PM

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Oh well, back to the drawing board I suppose 😛

karmic gull Oct 7, 2023, 5:10 PM

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Iterating! The most fun part of homebrew /s

barren pendant Oct 7, 2023, 5:11 PM

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More 'Working out new ideas'. I've had several ideas for talents but they never seem to quite work out.

zenith niche Oct 7, 2023, 5:16 PM

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Maybe make the talent itself state it cannot coexist with Drone Herder?

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Like, “if you have X talent, you cannot take this one, and if you have this one you can’t take that one”. Has the side effect of instantly diversifying Hydra builds a bit

barren pendant Oct 7, 2023, 5:17 PM

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It would likely be a bit weird being mutually exclusive/I don't think it really has enough meat right now to compete with +5 HP on all your drones and AOE damage + overshield from the capstone.

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Hmmm

lapis sphinx Oct 7, 2023, 9:21 PM

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My favorite is Rowan, because I love forced movement.

graceful kayak Oct 7, 2023, 9:33 PM

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I'll be using an Elite Ferryman for a Holdout.

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er

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Well I'll be using one.

steep hazel Oct 7, 2023, 10:38 PM

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rustic root Tbh my favorite IF mech is clover

My other favorite would probs be the one that serves darkest dungeon alchemist for me, like that kinda playstyle of chip and poison and decay and debuff and heal

The Kudzu

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The Kudzu is SO COOL

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"your life is in my hand, don't make me act upon it"

stoic gulch Oct 8, 2023, 12:52 AM

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My favorite rn would be the Rowan, strongly considered breaking my belief in striker supremacy solely for the hilarity that would be starspinner spam HG Rowan

halcyon thorn Oct 8, 2023, 5:24 AM

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stoic gulch My favorite rn would be the Rowan, strongly considered breaking my belief in str...

Don't worry, the secret is Rowan IS a striker
It's got a heavy mount and a damage trait (3 Damage on enemies clearing prone)

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For me, I love the Belladonna
AP on non weapon melee attacks is so nice, so is efficient autofail save core for Brawler 3

barren pendant Oct 8, 2023, 5:29 AM

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The Belladonna is one I keep wondering if it needs a hair more

halcyon thorn Oct 8, 2023, 5:33 AM

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What would you tweak with it?

barren pendant Oct 8, 2023, 5:38 AM

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Not honestly sure.

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Maybe making the scythe a hair meaner?

vapid fossil Oct 8, 2023, 5:43 AM

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Either getting the base damage up on scythe by like 2 (?) or even Threat 4 plus a raising the oncrit to a max of 4 could be funky

barren pendant Oct 8, 2023, 5:45 AM

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Yeah. I'm still pondering that though.

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As I've gotten a little feedback it might be undertuned but not a tonne of testing

vapid fossil Oct 8, 2023, 5:46 AM

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Base dmg up is def the safer option.

vapid fossil Oct 8, 2023, 5:48 AM

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barren pendant Yeah. I'm still *pondering* that though.

nod nod

stoic gulch Oct 8, 2023, 6:30 AM

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Honestly 1d6+3 paracausal threat... 2 I think? With two separate good on crit spread the love around damage traits that's also paracausal is pretty damn good for a heavy imo even if you can't just, strap on OpCal or AutoStab or Thermal Charges to it

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Like, Heavy Charge Blade is threat 1 1d6+3 AP and it gets run over by resistances unlike the scythe

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You'd definitely want people to push the enemy towards you though or some other way to help fish for crits with executioner or something

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Question, with Sekhmet active would the Rose be forced to make its parry against an ally targetting an adjacent enemy because it's technically a melee attack?

barren pendant Oct 8, 2023, 6:37 AM

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I don't think so. It's not really an attack attack.

stoic gulch Oct 8, 2023, 6:39 AM

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Ah yeah just wondering since while it is a weird edge case it references making a melee attack and sekhmet forces you to use all of your actions to make melee weapon attacks when possible

barren pendant Oct 8, 2023, 6:47 AM

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Familiar (Rank I): You gain a Prototype drone with the following profile. It requires no SP to install.
    Quick Action, Drone (Size 1/2, HP 10+Grit, 10 E-defense/Evasion,  Hover)
    You unleash your prototype drone to an empty space within sensor range. The drone has can hover, emits a Burst 2 aura and makes saves using your Grit. You can move the drone to a new space in your sensor range or recall it as a quick action. 

During a Full Repair, you can adjust the configuration of the drone, choosing one of the following:
    -Technician Drone: Allied characters within your Prototype Drone's Aura have +1 accuracy on checks and saves.
    -Hunter Drone: Hostile characters within your Prototype Drone's Aura are Impaired.
    -Pathfinder Drone: Allied characters starting their turn within your Prototype Drone's Aura can ignore difficult and dangerous terrain until end of turn.

If destroyed, you can spend 1 repair during a rest to restore the prototype drone to full HP and function.

Cat Sí (Rank II): On a full repair, you can modify and tweak essential components of your system in order to increase the effectiveness of your prototype drone. Choose 2 of the following:
    -Camouflage Systems: The prototype drone is Invisible. Allied characters within your Prototype Drone's Aura have Soft Cover.
    -Laser Array: When a hostile character with Lock On ends their turn or makes an attack within the Prototype Drone's Aura, they suffer 3 Energy Damage.
    -Advanced Propulsion: At the beginning of your turn you can move this drone up to 3 spaces as a protocol.
    -One More Cool Thing

Cath Palug (Rank III): Your drone has been updated with heavy weapons and reinforcements to allow it to punch through anything it cannot blast apart. 

1/Scene, as a Quick Action, you can direct your drone to blitz across a Line 8 area from itself so fast it counts as teleporting. 

All characters in the affected area suffer 6 AP kinetic, energy or explosive damage (Chosen when the action is taken) and are shredded until the end of their next turn. A successful hull save halves the damage. The prototype drone then reappears in any space within or adjacent to the line.

Also redid this talent.

stoic gulch Oct 8, 2023, 6:59 AM

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Does the soft cover allow you to hide

barren pendant Oct 8, 2023, 7:02 AM

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It would, yeah.

little wadi Oct 8, 2023, 7:25 AM

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Which liminal space mech would you use for a battlefield captain lead from the front, kinda striker support build

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I know gluttony is technically that but doesn’t exactly fit the bill

rustic root Oct 8, 2023, 10:52 AM

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Pride?

little wadi Oct 8, 2023, 10:58 AM

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Does pride have any support tools?

rustic root Oct 8, 2023, 12:54 PM

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eh, double checking they're really more control tools

empty kraken Oct 8, 2023, 1:05 PM

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little wadi Which liminal space mech would you use for a battlefield captain lead from the f...

DONNER

&

RASPUTIN

obtuse willow Oct 8, 2023, 1:06 PM

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little wadi Which liminal space mech would you use for a battlefield captain lead from the f...

donner is the answer yeah

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egg also works but it's hard to lead from the front when you're speed 2

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amakusa also, it's technically defender/support but I mean, it's got that heavy mount

little wadi Oct 8, 2023, 1:13 PM

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I really like the Amakusa but I legit have no clue how to build it lol

obtuse willow Oct 8, 2023, 1:26 PM

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amakusa's pretty build-agnostic

martyr systems lends you towards loading weapons but it's not mandatory at all

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for the kind of thing you're asking for I'd probably just put a good skirmishing heavy on and go skirmish + whatever support action, boost when needed

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graceful step is actually a bonkers trait

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take house guard so you're also cover to more than one guy at a time

little wadi Oct 8, 2023, 1:32 PM

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My other idea was gluttony with like, walk of kings and just keep tossing it out regularly

karmic gull Oct 8, 2023, 1:32 PM

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Hog 1 really is a silly fuckin talent

barren pendant Oct 8, 2023, 1:34 PM

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In my defence, HoG 1 didn't exist when the Amakusa came out 😛

obtuse willow Oct 8, 2023, 1:34 PM

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eh

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it could already get guardian by dipping egg

rustic root Oct 8, 2023, 6:05 PM

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ngl Amakusa is like, one of my favorite defenders just flat out

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and probably the only one that doesn't Defend by just making itself too dangerous to ignore

steady halo Oct 8, 2023, 6:07 PM

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no love for Napoleon...

rustic root Oct 8, 2023, 6:10 PM

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I respect Napoleon, but I don't like it a ton

fading jewel Oct 8, 2023, 6:10 PM

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Or Saladin :(

rustic root Oct 8, 2023, 6:11 PM

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Look my favorite defender in first party is Enkidu, and that should tell you all you need to know

steady halo Oct 8, 2023, 6:17 PM

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ohhhhh we misinterpreted

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We thought you meant "the Amakusa is the only mech that doesn't defend by making itself too dangerous to ignore" not "the Amakusa is the only mech that doesn't defend by making itself too dangerous to ignore that I like"

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it was very confusing

halcyon thorn Oct 8, 2023, 6:26 PM

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Caliban Amakusa seems fun
Boost to teleport adjacent to your pals and give yourself OS with Rapid Maneuveur Jets
Stabilize to reload the Cannibal and heal your friends with Martyr Systems

rustic root Oct 8, 2023, 6:28 PM

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just the teleport sound effect and then the doom OST starts playing

fading jewel Oct 8, 2023, 6:29 PM

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Makes the rest of RMJ useless though

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4 SP exclusively for the 3 OS on Boost? Not sure if that's worth

steady halo Oct 8, 2023, 6:31 PM

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tbf it's a good Overshield

rustic root Oct 8, 2023, 6:36 PM

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the resistance is nice tbf

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oh wait no, that's a different caliban system

steady halo Oct 8, 2023, 6:43 PM

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ye

halcyon thorn Oct 8, 2023, 8:22 PM

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fading jewel 4 SP *exclusively* for the 3 OS on Boost? Not sure if that's worth

1 Heat and 4 SP for 3 OS every single time you boost is absolutely worth it imo
Especially on a 2 armor frame

vapid fossil Oct 8, 2023, 8:25 PM

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depends on the frame

stoic gulch Oct 9, 2023, 6:23 AM

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Putting the Striker in the Controller/Striker frame, because sometimes you just want to look at someone within range 13 and deal 4d6+4+Heat AP damage

-- IF Silversword @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
  IF Silversword 3, HA Tokugawa 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
  Overpower Caliber, Superior by Design
[ TALENTS ]
  Heavy Gunner 3, Crack Shot 2, Nuclear Cavalier 2, Ace 2
[ STATS ]
  HULL:3 AGI:0 SYS:2 ENGI:3
  STRUCTURE:4 HP:17 ARMOR:2
  STRESS:4 HEATCAP:12 REPAIR:5
  TECH ATK:+3 LIMITED:+1
  SPD:3 EVA:6 EDEF:12 SENSE:15 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
  FLEX MOUNT: Torch
  HEAVY MOUNT: Lúin Celtchair // Overpower Caliber
[ SYSTEMS ]
  Ka-Chunk!, LUCIFER-Class NHP x3, External Batteries, Rapid Burst Jump Jet System```

barren pendant Oct 9, 2023, 8:02 AM

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Oooh, Silversword. That's a less common option. I hope it's fun.

stoic gulch Oct 9, 2023, 9:15 AM

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Oh I was theorycrafting this one while trying to like, find a mech that's probably closest to the Unicorn Gundam with the beam magnum

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But iirc someone in one of the games I'm in made a Lily so here's hoping that goes well for him

torpid viper Oct 10, 2023, 3:54 AM

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barren pendant ``` Familiar (Rank I): You gain a Prototype drone with the following profile. It...

Thinking of this on a Solomon. One very, very scary drone.

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I'd probably run a Hunter with Camouflage and Advanced Propulsion, and rely on Lesser Key to convince enemies to stay out.

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Or stay in I suppose.

barren pendant Oct 10, 2023, 3:56 AM

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Makes sense.

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I hope it seems fun/interesting. I'm currently tinkering with it a hair more.

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(Among other things, trying to work out an extra one for that second choice)

torpid viper Oct 10, 2023, 3:56 AM

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Definitely a fun drone talent.

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Last cool thing could be a Medea bone?

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Some sort of "oh, it's actually not so pricey to sacrifice now"

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(And maybe can take hits for people or something.)

barren pendant Oct 10, 2023, 4:01 AM

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Familiar (Rank I): You gain a Prototype drone with the following profile. It requires no SP to install.
    Quick Action, Drone (Size 1/2, HP 10+Grit, 10 E-defense/Evasion, Hover)
    You unleash your prototype drone to an empty space within sensor range. The drone has can hover, emits a Burst 2 aura and makes saves using your Grit. You can move the drone to a new space in your sensor range or recall it as a quick action. 

During a Full Repair, you can adjust the configuration of the drone, choosing one of the following:
    -Technician Drone: Allied characters within your Prototype Drone's Aura have +1 accuracy on checks and saves.
    -Hunter Drone: Hostile characters within your Prototype Drone's Aura are Impaired.
    -Pathfinder Drone: Allied characters starting their turn within your Prototype Drone's Aura can ignore difficult and dangerous terrain until end of turn.

If destroyed, you can spend 1 repair during a rest to restore the prototype drone to full HP and function.

Cat Sí (Rank II): On a full repair, you can modify and tweak essential components of your system in order to increase the effectiveness of your prototype drone. Choose one of the following:
    -Camouflage Systems: The prototype drone is Invisible. Allied characters within your Prototype Drone's Aura have Soft Cover.
    -Laser Array: When a hostile character with Lock On ends their turn or makes an attack within the Prototype Drone's Aura, they suffer 3 Energy Damage.
    -Whitewash Repair Module: The Prototype Drone is automatically repaired at the start of each scene without spending repairs. When an allied character Stabilizes within the Prototype Drone's Aura, they can choose an additional option from either list.

In addition, the prototype drone gains 4 Speed and can move independently on your turn.

Cath Palug (Rank III): Your drone has been updated with heavy weapons and reinforcements to allow it to punch through anything it cannot blast apart. 

1/Scene, as a Quick Action, you can direct your drone to blitz across a Line 8 area from itself so fast it counts as teleporting. 

All characters in the affected area suffer 6 AP kinetic, energy or explosive damage (Chosen when the action is taken) and are shredded until the end of their next turn. A successful hull save halves the damage. The prototype drone then reappears in any space within or adjacent to the line.

barren pendant Oct 10, 2023, 4:01 AM

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torpid viper Some sort of "oh, it's actually not so pricey to sacrifice now"

How's Whitewash Repair Module look?

torpid viper Oct 10, 2023, 4:02 AM

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Very fun

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Medea-tastic

barren pendant Oct 10, 2023, 4:03 AM

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I made Rank 2 only one choice but it got the propulsion already built in.

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How's Rank 3 seem?

torpid viper Oct 10, 2023, 4:04 AM

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Fancy and flashy but not a must take

barren pendant Oct 10, 2023, 4:06 AM

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Worth Taking, even if not must take?

torpid viper Oct 10, 2023, 11:34 AM

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Yeah, I think so

honest meteor Oct 10, 2023, 2:47 PM

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I don't know to search for the answer, but what happens if Scilla falls on top of people?

obtuse willow Oct 10, 2023, 3:30 PM

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Pretty sure it would just get displaced to the nearest tiles it could fit in

No goomba stomping in Lancer

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Scilla is really hard to knock out of the sky though

carmine nymph Oct 11, 2023, 12:35 PM

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@warm sandal found your Nimue art in the wild, it came out amazing if you want to share it here. I haven’t been looking in the Gallery, so apologies if you put it there before 😅

little wadi Oct 11, 2023, 1:13 PM

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Oh oh I want to see lol

fading jewel Oct 11, 2023, 1:16 PM

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#the-gallery message

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Should be it

little wadi Oct 11, 2023, 1:18 PM

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That’s dope

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Thanks

warm sandal Oct 11, 2023, 3:32 PM

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https://vxtwitter.com/shadefish1/status/1710988148426043682?s=46&t=Z1ZvdkJLQli_O66kEnsY2w

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Alice "Shade Fish" J Fish (injured check pinned) (@ShadeFish1)

a Ptron piece for @letsRaeV of a custom #LancerRPG Nimue from Liminal Space!
#mecha

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Here we go!

zenith niche Oct 11, 2023, 3:50 PM

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❤️

tacit heath Oct 11, 2023, 7:01 PM

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Noice

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That is shapely

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 8:36 AM

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How do yall build clover

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I just found out about ironleaf and theyre so cool

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jammin

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I really like the vibe clover frame gives

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underdog vibes

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https://tenor.com/view/hajime-no-ippo-makunouchi-ippo-boxing-shujinkou-gif-27541569

Tenor

barren pendant Oct 12, 2023, 8:39 AM

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steel patrol I just found out about ironleaf and theyre so cool

I'm glad you like them! So, a big part of the Clover's Deal is that the Clover's Core Power can basicly be always charging. You can go into every single battle with the 'Fuck You' punch charging and only unleash it when you have a Really Good Shot lined up.

There's two real ways that I intended the Clover to be pretty easily built.

A) Mobility Stuff. Dive People, Get Punching, Never Stop.
B) Slower, More Defender-y Systems. Make use of the ability to drag people in and get a lot of On-Brace systems.

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 8:39 AM

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I love the emphasis on bracing

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I always kinda ignored it but now its nice to have more incentives

barren pendant Oct 12, 2023, 8:40 AM

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steel patrol https://tenor.com/view/hajime-no-ippo-makunouchi-ippo-boxing-shujinkou-gif-27541...

Funny thing: The original name of the core power was 'Go The Distance'. As it was supposed to emulate the feel of a scrappy boxer who's lining up a knockout blow.

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 8:40 AM

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Yea I got hyped just reading about its page lmao

barren pendant Oct 12, 2023, 8:42 AM

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One of it's systems is likely getting replaced at some point (Iron Will) as it ended up a bit more situational than I liked.

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But in things the Clover will likely like. As a mech who likes A) Bracing B) Getting the shit kicked out of it and hitting back even harder, there's a Talent for the book that's not yet in the document.

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Hot Blood
"But so hot was the blood that the sword-blade was melted
Likest to snow when the Father unbindeth
The fetters of frost that the winter has welded."
-Beowulf

Rank I - Veins Full of Gasoline: You become more resilient against the following effects:

-Stunned: While Stunned, you can still take reactions, your Evasion is not reduced to 5 and you do not automatically fail checks and saves.
-Jammed: While Jammed can take Reactions (But still may not make attacks).

In addition, if you have 2 marked structure or stress, you gain +1 Accuracy on all checks and saves.

Rank II - With this hand, I'll create victory!: When you Brace, you are immune to all effects of the triggering attack except for damage and heat. In addition, if you have 2 marked structure or stress, you also clear all conditions when you Brace unless that condition was caused by your own systems, traits, talents etc.

Rank III - The Fading Embers Refuse To Go Out: 1/Round, you can reduce the heat or damage that an allied character in Range 3 would suffer from a hostile character by 3 plus your total marked structure and stress. If you do, you suffer that much damage or heat, which cannot be reduced in any way.

If you have 2 marked structure or stress, you can also reduce heat or damage that you would suffer. You are immune to damage or heat you would suffer from this effect.

This interrupt is not a reaction.

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 8:44 AM

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Oo lemme read

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 8:45 AM

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barren pendant But in things the Clover *will* likely like. As a mech who likes A) Bracing B) G...

Yea that second part is a theme i want to run with

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My last mech was a toku because of the same reason

barren pendant Oct 12, 2023, 8:48 AM

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Oh, by the way: Did you encounter this through the document or through the .lcp?

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 8:49 AM

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barren pendant Oh, by the way: Did you encounter this through the document or through the .lcp?

Originally I read the rose doc file from dragonkid's video

barren pendant Oct 12, 2023, 8:50 AM

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Oh, nice!

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 8:50 AM

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Wasnt sure there was an overall doc so I just googled the lcp

barren pendant Oct 12, 2023, 8:50 AM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jcKV4xrOI7SVgclud3R_fCwZ9MLgfwQi3-9wJy8-zX4/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

By Star and Melody

By Star and Melody Those Who Walk Away From Union: A Foundational Myth You Cannot Escape Yourself: The History of Milesia The Tribes of Milesia: Tuatha Various Cultural Things: In Need Of A Cool Chapter Name The Barrow At The Center Of A World: Airgead Barrow Glory Across The Stars: The Iron Crow...

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Here's the overall doc (Still very much a Work In Progress)

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 8:50 AM

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Oh nice thanks

barren pendant Oct 12, 2023, 8:50 AM

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With a link to the .lcp in it

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 8:52 AM

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Ill try to check out the other frames

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The green one with the gunlance looking weapon caught my eye too

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ultraneil

barren pendant Oct 12, 2023, 8:53 AM

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Hah, the Silversword. It's likely got the weirdest core power in the company.

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Active(1 CP), Reaction
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Effect: End The Round. Any number of characters of your choice in Range 50 clear burn and all effects that would end at the end of their next turn not caused by their own traits, systems etc. You can nominate the first character to take a turn next round.

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'I just end the round, onto the next round'

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 8:54 AM

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Wait what

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LMAO

barren pendant Oct 12, 2023, 8:55 AM

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The Silversword is a weirdass mech under the hood.

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Piloting a silversword has significant effects on a pilot’s subjectivity. While all pilots to some degree see their frame as part of themselves, Silversword pilots instead often see themselves as having always been part of it and simply reunited even the first time they pilot it. This comes from the frame’s blending of the pilot’s consciousness into a temporary legion of instances of the pilot’s past, present and future.

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 8:57 AM

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Is there a frame in the lineup that seems to be like a fan favorite

barren pendant Oct 12, 2023, 8:57 AM

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I think that sorta runs into two of them. The Poppy for 'most people want to play'

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And the Scilla for 'people don't forget it'

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The Poppy likely the most normal mech in that it mostly runs on 'Just Shoot Them With A Gun'

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But it does so by providing just More Guns Than God.

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Including something that is both quite silly and also one the most 'actually a real weapon' weapons I've written.

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A Goalkeeper Minigun

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AaUNipuygE&ab_channel=KoreaDefenseBlog

YouTube

Korea Defense Blog

30mm Goalkeeper CIWS Live Fire

Goalkeeper Close-In Weapon System (CIWS) conducting live fire aboard Republic of Korea Navy Gwanggaeto the Great-class destroyer ROKS Yang Man-chun (DDH-973) after being overhauled. ROKS Yang Man-chun was recently handed over to the ROK Navy after completing its modernization program through KDX-I Performance Improvement Plan (PIP).

해군 광개토대왕급 구...

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The Scillla is the other end of the spectrum and likely the weirdest of the IF 'mechs' because calling it a mech is itself kinda a stretch.

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barren pendant Oct 12, 2023, 10:07 AM

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But yeah, I do hope you enjoy it/if you've ever got thoughts on either mechanics or fluff, I'd love to hear them.

fading jewel Oct 12, 2023, 11:06 AM

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steel patrol How do yall build clover

Well first, you take Monomania from Liminal Space-

torpid viper Oct 12, 2023, 11:20 AM

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I'm a personal fan of the Mistletoe and Rowan.

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 12:13 PM

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fading jewel Well first, you take Monomania from Liminal Space-

Oo whats that

fading jewel Oct 12, 2023, 12:16 PM

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Free Lock-On refill

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 12:44 PM

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fading jewel Free Lock-On refill

AHH

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Oops i didnt notice my ping replies but yes

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Thats a gamechanger

fading jewel Oct 12, 2023, 12:45 PM

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Do note that while LimSpace and IronLeaf were made by the same guy (LimSpace partially at least) they're not fully made to be compatible with each other

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So if Monomania Clover is somewhat busted, yeah that sometimes happens when mixing homebrew

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Iki did say he patched out the more obvious and glaring exploits when combining LimSpace with Ironleaf though

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 1:59 PM

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nice nice

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I am kinda new still so its a bit hard to tell whats too op or not

zenith niche Oct 12, 2023, 2:17 PM

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Monomania is also on LUST 3 if I remember right, so it’s not exactly free

fading jewel Oct 12, 2023, 3:17 PM

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Lust 2 actually

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So, not cheap but not LL3 level

fleet steppe Oct 12, 2023, 3:59 PM

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bribe a friend to use spotter 3 on you

fading jewel Oct 12, 2023, 4:00 PM

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Free Action

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Unfortunately only works on your turn

fleet steppe Oct 12, 2023, 4:00 PM

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dang

zenith niche Oct 12, 2023, 4:05 PM

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fading jewel Lust 2 actually

Ah, right. LL3 was CUPID and the hack, my bad

steel patrol Oct 12, 2023, 4:12 PM

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so should I just run clover 2 lust 2 for ll4

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im planning on something starting there

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thinkster

karmic gull Oct 12, 2023, 4:15 PM

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barren pendant ``` Hot Blood "But so hot was the blood that the sword-blade was melted Likest t...

Rank 1: Raleigh is immune to Jam now,

halcyon thorn Oct 12, 2023, 8:03 PM

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Good for him 😌

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