#game-balance

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celest stone
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and a mini gun are pinching u

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u would die

limber copper
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No i wouldnt xd

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I would just pkay open zone

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Lmao

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Not hard

celest stone
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??

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i dont think so

limber copper
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Then rev nade them all and they all die

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There

celest stone
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Yeah

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With my luck

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Rev nades come to me

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Every like

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200 games

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And plus

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I lag when ppl spam

cobalt zephyr
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nerf scar a bit mayb

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and cacti

wide cargo
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Its already nerfed.

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Also FAMAS is now worst AR/SMG!

cobalt zephyr
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wh yis famas nerfed?

wide cargo
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Nobody knows.

restive bison
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add me on zomb

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famas is the worst

young cosmos
restive bison
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@young cosmos sup

graceful cedar
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@celest stone ur scenario is unrealistic theres a good chance someone else was there in the gas before that so one of their other members must have died. therefore it is a lot easier

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p90 bullets dont go far just use sniper

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people who say nerf (smg) u dont know that snipers and shotguns and ars exist

restive bison
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RAGERQUITER#3558

graceful cedar
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?

restive bison
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that my zombs id

young cosmos
graceful cedar
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@young cosmos yes also remember yesterday augh i hate useless pings

haughty bear
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x

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lol

bronze phoenix
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Yang boost scar again.

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Scars are my love

young cosmos
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whats your reasoning?

bronze phoenix
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and you have destroyed them

bronze phoenix
young cosmos
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😂 thats not really a strong argument on why the nerf should be reverted

bronze phoenix
wide cargo
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meta is fine scar x ak we use 2 proper ars

cobalt zephyr
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literlly everyone says it should be nerfed

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and ur saying it should be buffed?

bronze phoenix
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if someone were to put up a vote you would easily find that more people are saying for it to be buffed

cobalt zephyr
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lmao

bronze phoenix
cobalt zephyr
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man i dont wanna talk with ppl like u

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ur telling me u think theres more ppl who would want scar buffed

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dammmmmmmmmmmmm

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im pretty sure most people would disagree hehe

modest canopy
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Scar op

cobalt zephyr
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exactly

rancid karma
limber copper
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Scar is fine

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This update is good

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@ yang

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You are doing good

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Or whoever thought of the update

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Good

civic schooner
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@cobalt zephyr Dont ping the devs

cobalt zephyr
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Can y'all balance the Minigun to like one direction
It's so busted
Like it's impossible to run away from it it's stuoift

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Yang please can you do this

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:(

spring moss
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Its annoying

graceful cedar
merry gyro
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his name literally says tag is ban so why u tagging him unnecesarily 🤦‍♂️

lavish agate
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P90,UMP,Vector,Goo Gun and Flamethrower seriously need to be nerfed,because they deal obscene amounts of damage just by spraying in the general direction of the player. Uzi and MP5 are pretty balanced tho I don’t they need a nerf but p90,UMP,vector,Goo Gun and flamethrower need a big nerf they are too op rn

lavish agate
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I think that they are soooo not fine

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They deal too much damage

orchid nexus
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and the p90 not that that bad

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ump

lavish agate
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Everyone knows how op the p90 is

orchid nexus
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so saying all sapm weapon need to be nerfed kid @lavish agate

lavish agate
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Not all

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Just the ones mentioned

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They make the game too unbalanced

orchid nexus
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uzi mp5

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lmao

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@lavish agate

lavish agate
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??

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I said that the uzi and mp5 are balanced so they don’t need a nerf

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Read carefully

orchid nexus
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dude

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dude

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idrc

lavish agate
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U didn’t interpret it correctly then

rancid karma
# orchid nexus idrc

don't criticize others if you don't take the time to understand what they said

rancid karma
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ghost ping?

cobalt zephyr
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Nerf all spray spam weapons, those ones
Like goo gun flamethrower mini gun

cobalt zephyr
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thay just annoy people

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when a noob uses them

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and kill someone

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No they're OP

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Minigun takes no skill

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Many of those weapons take no skill

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It's always the legendaries that hold the most bs

wide cargo
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Why do people complain about P90 but not use it? I don't understand. Imo they should nerf all ARs and SMGs because its total spray and pray in the open areas with no buildings.

cobalt zephyr
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it kinda suc

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hehe

wide cargo
lavish agate
lavish agate
mint lagoon
limber copper
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This game is very good

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Thanks yang

keen helm
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ghost ping?

orchid nexus
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yang u doing fine

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game is fine

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it just kids dont got a win

stable wadi
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nice

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buff sca

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r

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it would be pretty good

cobalt zephyr
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Dumbb

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Assssss

supple vault
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bra

lavish agate
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Y u use abusive language here

limber copper
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Yang i thank you for making this game i enjoy it

wide cargo
wide cargo
limber copper
wide cargo
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idk i havent played the game in a while because its dry so you are comp player

limber copper
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Ok

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Yes

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I am a comp player

wide cargo
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I'm not that good I'd say I'm okay at the game. Except I wish Yang would focus on the game because theres no content.

limber copper
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Content?

wide cargo
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Map, weapons, etc. ie new content.

stable wadi
wide cargo
stable wadi
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exactly

wide cargo
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so it is worse

limber copper
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The scar is literally fine rn

cobalt zephyr
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autumn grotto
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yoooooooooo

grave anvil
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like

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i clap in duos and squads

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but i get trashed on in solos

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i have no fun in solos

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idk why

toxic otter
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anyone wants to play

opal turtle
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ok

young cosmos
gritty temple
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Make nadea do 70dmg and make scar shoot faster cuz they pretty use less I don’t use them to play comp anymore

rancid karma
tired thistle
cunning laurel
gritty temple
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He lied to u cuz in comp I used at 15

rancid karma
gritty temple
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What cheezits said on his vireo

willow spire
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What did Chez say? You gotta dig deep yourself instead of trusting every other person

pine kraken
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If they do add the mythic scar nerf the gold one and make the mythic one way better

quaint oak
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anyone want to joun my sever the code is fishy

gritty temple
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Chez was one of the plfuratbppl I heard say in games when u fought someone with a scar and u didn’t have one u were pretty much dead

pine kraken
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Ye

half jetty
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nerf goo gun's fire rate

gritty temple
exotic nacelle
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buff tommy gun damage

analog seal
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u

cobalt zephyr
limber copper
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Lol

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Damage is like only 40?

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It gets countered easily

young cosmos
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._.

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dont use all caps

shut wagon
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yang if u see this please take into consiteration that the vector is horrible for spammers it sucks cus its so op

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nerf it pls

shut wagon
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i just died to it and me and this dude traded and he won and i got second

willow spire
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Vector isn't good 😕

shut wagon
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indeed

rancid karma
wide cargo
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A ZR leaker.

rancid karma
rancid karma
graceful cedar
edgy meadow
tiny basin
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тут вообще кто-то есть русский?

willow spire
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Я русский. Какая проблема?

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@tiny basin

mental sequoia
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nerf vector please, the damage is way too unfair

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and maybe look into nerfing the damage of the assault scar

wet tapir
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buff the ksg :)

young cosmos
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@wet tapir i bet the 6 percent of people who vvoted ksg were joking...

graceful cedar
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ksg is good in zombies and 50v50 bcuz of piercing but other than that its doo doo

cobalt zephyr
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Give free gems = balance

graceful cedar
cobalt zephyr
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No

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Give free gems = happy = more players = retirement

graceful cedar
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the game makes money bcuz people buy stuff including gems

cobalt zephyr
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Shush

graceful cedar
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no

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i dont want to

fading egret
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There is nothing more to buy with coins

rancid karma
# cobalt zephyr Shush

trust me if you get everything you want you will feel no more meaning in ur unnessacry skins

graceful cedar
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ksg is only good in zombies and 50v50 and squads in small buildings

coarse nebula
lavish agate
lavish agate
lavish agate
graceful cedar
tight oracle
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yea but we barely get gems in the free pass

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i calcualted and an average person with 0 -5 gems would have to wait 25 SEASONS to get the battle pass

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give us something man

cobalt zephyr
tight oracle
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i also believe that they should put private lobbies with your friends or something. they should give a special code so they can join. These days we have to go all they way into public matches just to 1v1, and sometimes to 1v1er dies

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by another player

verbal zenith
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yeah

lavish agate
verbal zenith
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but lobbies cost oney

verbal zenith
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jk

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lmao

lavish agate
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Thath gives less profit to them than when people buy gems

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I’d like If that happens tho

tight oracle
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they should atleast increase the amount of gems in the free pass. they should also allow a trade-like system. i think we should be able to exchange some coins for a gem, like 50 coins = 1 gem

verbal zenith
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liek ALOT of ads

lavish agate
tight oracle
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Yang notice these message, you must fix your broken gameee

verbal zenith
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what about sneeza

lavish agate
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Yes and please nerf the following they weapons as they are too op - vector,p90,ump,flamethrower,goo gun

verbal zenith
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i actally liek those

tight oracle
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what about rubber gun? i think its ok

verbal zenith
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there suppose to be like that

lavish agate
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Yes rubber gun ok

lavish agate
verbal zenith
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if they get nerfed, itll be ar only

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think about it

lavish agate
tight oracle
verbal zenith
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im not a spammer

tight oracle
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ok good

lavish agate
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Yea I’m a strong believer of #nospamming

verbal zenith
verbal zenith
tight oracle
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but if guns like p90 or vector is in the game, then why ar's?

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or even pumps

verbal zenith
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but what the point of game if it have no vartity

verbal zenith
tight oracle
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i guess, then pumps?

verbal zenith
lavish agate
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There’s are other weapons except for p90,vector,ump,flamethrower and goo gun that are not Ar s and people can use

verbal zenith
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u just need skill

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ngl

lavish agate
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Plus I’m not suggesting to remove them I just want them to get nerfed so they don’t break the game they will still be used a lot

tight oracle
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ok, but my point is at least reduce damage. almost 14 damage up close and still 10 damage from afar. it will take 14 bullets to kill someone with p90 or vector, but taking their fire rate into account, its op

lavish agate
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Yes

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Same

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I agree

tight oracle
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its its not just about vector or p90, look at flamethrower. i basically does exponential damage. 13-14 damage PLUS the burn effect, so it SHREDS players

lavish agate
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Yes

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I completely agree

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I hope yang reads this and actually helps us

tight oracle
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and i consider myself a pro level player. I have played competitively and am level 180. and I still die to these players who use these( temporarily) op guns

lavish agate
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Yes same

tight oracle
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🙂

verbal zenith
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if you distance urself or use a pump

lavish agate
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I’m level 187

verbal zenith
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u wounld fare better

verbal zenith
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;-;

tight oracle
lavish agate
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Yes

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That’s good

verbal zenith
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im only allowed to play games for 20 mins a day

lavish agate
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Ok than your level is pretty good

verbal zenith
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lol

lavish agate
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Considering the time you play for

tight oracle
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can i add you Noobtube and !

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?

lavish agate
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Yea you can

tight oracle
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thanks!

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what about you ! ?

verbal zenith
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i sent it @tight oracle

torpid gale
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i wish there could be any other way to earn gems more

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like 5 insted of 3 in free pass#

desert wagon
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@cobalt zephyr

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@cobalt zephyr

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@cobalt zephyr

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@cobalt zephyr

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@cobalt zephyr

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Pls talk to me or at least let me say goodbye

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Pls unblock me

rancid karma
kindred dune
desert wagon
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Sry

cobalt zephyr
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Prob make lucky go away on first day of spring

half jetty
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ye

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how about make a blooming lucky lake

graceful cedar
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super sanctum i know it was only for its season but it was rlly good

cobalt zephyr
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super sanctum is gud

tiny solstice
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Minigun is too op pls put the damage down 🙏

cobalt zephyr
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p90 is to strong

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pls nerf

cobalt zephyr
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Why are u begging for nerfs?

cobalt zephyr
cobalt zephyr
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Lol

lavish agate
lavish agate
lavish agate
cobalt zephyr
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yh

cobalt zephyr
graceful cedar
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P90 HAS NO BULLET RANGE ARS AND SNIPERS AND RPGS EXIST U KNOW EVERYBODY DOES NOT REALIZE THAT ALSO DOORS+SHOTGUN STRATS EXIST YES MINIGUN NEEDS NERF BUT P90 IS FINE

wide cargo
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You are right P90 is not even that OP. Minigun is annoying with range but other than that, SMGs are balanced.

cobalt zephyr
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i dont see the point of nerfing P90

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to strong for spamers sb with a pump has prbl

wide cargo
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RAID is best shotgun.

weary seal
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no pump

wide cargo
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RAID is more damage

graceful cedar
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but more reload time and less damage when ur not fully charged

wide cargo
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true but i like the RAID because its easier to hit

graceful cedar
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i dont use raid that much so i cant really argue except for damage

wide cargo
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ok i used to use pump but now i prefer raid

graceful cedar
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i guess its better with door bcuz doors are the best weapon i wish u could carry doors bcuz then vector would be T R A S H

rancid karma
wide cargo
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Door endgames are actually skillful. Endgames in the open are spray-and-pray with no healing.

wide cargo
graceful cedar
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why do people say "nerf vector" or "nerf p90" p90 has no bullet range and vector is a freaking mythic do u guys want a vector to be as trash as p2000 i mean that would be funny tho
"OMG I FOUND VECTOR"
"WHY IS THIS SO TRASH"

rancid karma
wide cargo
rancid karma
rancid karma
wide cargo
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P2000 at longer range is better than P90.

rancid karma
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it shoots really fast and if you shoot 10 bps it does 60 dmg still

wide cargo
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Yea

graceful cedar
graceful cedar
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no thats actually funny

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like as a troll

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OMG YES I FOUND VECTOR
dies
WHY DID MY VECTOR DO 1 DAMAGE AND SHOOT SO SLOWLY

rancid karma
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well then good for all the 9 years olds to stop using it

wide cargo
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Vector is close range, your supposed to have an RPG/Sniper if you want to eliminate that guy faraway.

graceful cedar
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or a door

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nerf door door is too op

wide cargo
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It is the only thing that prevents this game from being 100% spray-and-pray.

rancid karma
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yes but out in the open endgames like @wide cargo was saying you have no chance

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the game is becoming full RNG now

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no skill required

wide cargo
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It kind of comes down to health/weapons. If you let the last 2 fight, you will likely win an open endgame if you rush when 1 dies.

rancid karma
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if its a 1v1 and the guy is full healed you ded

wide cargo
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99% of the time, you have a SCAR. Trees are too weak. So its a spray battle once both sides snipe.

rancid karma
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The most sad thing is people laugh after they use it like they are good

rancid karma
wide cargo
rancid karma
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cuz I like playing with skill

wide cargo
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AR-15 is too weak

rancid karma
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so?

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I use ak 2

wide cargo
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So SCAR/AK is better and gives you better chance.

rancid karma
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I don't use scar as much

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I miss the ar-15 being good

graceful cedar
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ar15 has da rangggggggggggggggg

wide cargo
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AK takes less DPS. But it has bursts that can do good.

rancid karma
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rang?

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what Rang?

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@graceful cedar what is Rang?

graceful cedar
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range

rancid karma
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o

graceful cedar
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just missing the e

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the best letter in the world

rancid karma
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I thought thats what kids called Boomerangs now

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lol

wide cargo
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RPG is better than sniper.

rancid karma
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how

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If you can hit yes

wide cargo
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More damage more splash.

rancid karma
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not if you can't hit

wide cargo
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You can carry RAID, RPG, Sniper

rancid karma
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have fun being up closse with someone with a vector with that loadout

wide cargo
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AK or SCAR. AK has less DPS but bursts that are good.

graceful cedar
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rpg is fun

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i like rpg mystery mode

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i seem to be the only one who thinks that

torn bloom
graceful cedar
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"common"? i always get sniper or shotgun

wide cargo
graceful cedar
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rpg is fun

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shotgun only is not fun

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sniper only is not fun

wide cargo
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sniper and rpg is fun

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shotgun kinda boring

graceful cedar
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rpg fun

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big fun

wide cargo
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I love RPG.

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I feel like Mystery Mode shouldn't have bots like other LTMs. I actually love when in snipers, FORTY people make midgame.

lavish agate
graceful cedar
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@lavish agate say hi to bolt action sniper bolt action sniper say hi to noobtube

lavish agate
graceful cedar
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somethings wrong with u if u think minigun doesnt need a nerf somethings wrong with u

graceful cedar
lavish agate
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It is kinda op but not as op as p90 because it slows u down

graceful cedar
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p90's range isnt that far

lavish agate
graceful cedar
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i have a friend u might like his name is door

lavish agate
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Ik doors are op but they are meant to be like that people can’t just be able to shoot through the door

graceful cedar
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is door mean? maybe rpg is nicer

lavish agate
graceful cedar
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man u must not like friends. why not just meet frag grenade spam

wide cargo
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RPG is balanced.

graceful cedar
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ikr

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slow speed+high damage=balanced

lavish agate
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We can’t nerf frag grenades more as they ajeeb already been nerfed a lot and now they don’t deal 90 damage like they used to they deal like 30-70dmaagw now and If u need them even more they will be use less

lavish agate
wide cargo
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Frag grenades are balanced atm.

lavish agate
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Yes

wide cargo
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Biggest lootpool problem is too many trash weapons that are not viable.

lavish agate
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Fire rate needs to be nerfed

wide cargo
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Maybe all rapid-fire ars/smgs need to be weaker. ttk is too low.

lavish agate
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Yes

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Except for ar 15

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As it’s damage is less

wide cargo
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Yes and FAMAS needs a buff its too weak.

lavish agate
graceful cedar
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imagine if vector did no damage but 5x the firerate that would be a nice troll

lavish agate
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Lol

wide cargo
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Imagine an SMG that did 1 damage, had 1 million ammo, but shot 500 bullets a second.

lavish agate
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Vector fire rate needs to be nerfed a little bit

wide cargo
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is it op?

lavish agate
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Yea a

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500 damage per second

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Lol

graceful cedar
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no the reload time takes 1 minute

lavish agate
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Ok

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But

graceful cedar
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so imagine u accidentally put it down

lavish agate
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That will never happen

wide cargo
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8 year old with a bad combo would spam so hard.

lavish agate
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Lol

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Yea

wide cargo
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Lightning Demon, Fire Cloak, Burning Scythe was what casuals used last season. "Highest Tier Free Pass Combo"

lavish agate
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The only weapons that need to be nerfed ( according to me) are-

1-p90
2-ump
3-vector
4-flamethrower
5-goo gun

wide cargo
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Flamethrower and Goo Gun are literally OP in open areas. They just spam you out.

lavish agate
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Yes

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These 5 weapons need to be nerfed big time

wide cargo
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But what about little Timmy? He would be so sad when his UMP is not as good anymore.

lavish agate
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Lol

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Little Timmy??

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Whose little Timmy??

wide cargo
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I just came up with a name for a little kid spammer.

lavish agate
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Lol

wide cargo
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They're often on mobile for some reason.

lavish agate
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Yea

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I’m mobile tho

wide cargo
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And you are probably really good.

lavish agate
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But I never use any small ammo weapons

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Yea

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I’m really good

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Ump along with the 4 other weapons that must not named need their fire rate to be nerfed and damage too

wide cargo
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UMP is just annoying.

lavish agate
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Yea

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Really annoying

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I hate it

wide cargo
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Half of my deaths are from a spam weapon.

lavish agate
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Yea

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Same

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Those 5 weapons that must not be named need to be nerfed big time now

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Especially fire rate

wide cargo
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at least flame,googun,ump

lavish agate
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Yes

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And p90 and vector too

wide cargo
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yes i guess that would be fine

lavish agate
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Yea

wide cargo
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Also you can get more pairs of wings

unreal tree
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NERF P90 AND NERF BOTS PLW

graceful cedar
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bruh look up p90 doesnt need a nerf and bots are TRASH

wide cargo
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Bots are TRASHIER than TRASH, they never have experienced the 1st circle closing lol.

vague needle
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nerf spamming weapons like uzi, p90, minigun, vector, flamethrower

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but keep the silenced weapons how they are because inexperienced players don't pick them up, so they don't use them to spam :DDD

graceful cedar
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so ur complaining bcuz people pick them up

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they are freaking sub MACHINE GUNS

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THEY ARE MADE TO SHOOT FAST

vague needle
graceful cedar
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WHY WOULD U NERF THEM

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"slightly"

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yea sure

vague needle
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because inexperienced players use them too much, and also they don't improve if they constantly use flamethrower

graceful cedar
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THEY ARE SUBMACHINEGUNS THEY SHOOT FAST IF U NERF IT ALL SMGS ARE TRASH

vague needle
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but that seems to be the general opinion in the first place

graceful cedar
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ok so what

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thats their problem that they arent improving

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not urs

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if u nerf it then they wont play anymore so that would make the community smaller

vague needle
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and by the way pretty sure they buffed flamethrower and vector in the balance update of s18ish

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which was, in your logic, to encourage people to continue playing the game?

graceful cedar
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as long as its playable people r gonna use it

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snipers exist ya know

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and rpgs

vague needle
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yes, of course :DDD

graceful cedar
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just use those

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the game isnt entirely close combat

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i get where ur going

wide cargo
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Oh the casuals with a bad combos lol.

vague needle
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when we're in close range, close enough to worry about the vector, we obviously can hit a full damage snipe shot

graceful cedar
#

it is not that fun against spammers

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but u can still win

vague needle
#

my proposition is to slowly nerf the spamming weapons

graceful cedar
#

yea u can still do a full damage snipe and that will make them back off a little

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i think you should make them just "viable" not too op

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dont nef vector tho bcuz its a mythic

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a bad mythic doesnt make any sense

vague needle
graceful cedar
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its just my opinion and i think that the buffs are good bcuz they are close range

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the bullets dont travel far

vague needle
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so, the viable solution is just to social distance from any and all players holding smgs

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end of topic

graceful cedar
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so having a gun that 1) doesnt have its bullets travel far and 2) doesnt to that much damage makes a bad gun

vague needle
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also nerf some smgs to just viable

graceful cedar
#

except for vector

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yes just stay away

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or bring a door

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live in one of those movable houses and use ur door

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and block ur windows

vague needle
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maybe something other than the snowman that you can build

graceful cedar
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lol

wide cargo
graceful cedar
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whats a snowman

vague needle
#

snowman grenade

graceful cedar
#

oh ok

rose dome
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lol

half jetty
#

wut a story

woeful bramble
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Yes

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Hi

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Hi

cobalt zephyr
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make it easier to get gems

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im poor

woeful bramble
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Hi

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Who are you

graceful cedar
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u dont need gems lol

devout vector
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buf the scar a lil fam

lavish agate
lavish agate
lavish agate
lavish agate
#

In my opinion these are the 5 weapons that really need a nerf -

1-p90
2-UMP
3-vector
4-flamethrower
5-goo gun

The fire rate (and damage for some of them ) needs to be nerfed as they deal obscene amounts of damage at close and medium range

lavish agate
onyx oxide
#

is turrets still ther in the game

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:/

keen wraith
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I think ump is just fine

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its not a spam weapon

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and it does good damage, but the range is kinda doo doo which balences it imo

cobalt zephyr
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you should add the old pois back instead of all of these locations.

cobalt zephyr
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get rid of every smg

young cosmos
onyx oxide
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oh

cobalt zephyr
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guys vector must be nerfed

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@young cosmos how can i see my rank no the leaderboard?

bronze pivot
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wdym the scar is too op

young cosmos
bronze pivot
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the lower rarities should be weaker

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like a green scar does 15

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and goes up to 20

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witha golden scar

cobalt zephyr
young cosmos
bronze pivot
young cosmos
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the also made the mag only 24 made reload and fire rate longer

bronze pivot
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but its almost the same, it should be the damage nerfe

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nerfed*

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cus the ammo and reload of the old was good but the damage was too much

rancid karma
graceful cedar
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  1. p90 doesnt need a nerf it has 0 range just use a sniper or an ar and boom they ded 2) smoke grenades are what they say: smoke grenades. turrets are just tanks they are so tanky. 3) say helo to the revolutionary rpg and sniper u dont need to nerf vector if u do it should be a legendary instead
rancid karma
graceful cedar
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vector is a mythic

torn bloom
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh p90 literally trash now

hardy stream
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Lower famas damage better reload time?

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that would make it like an ak

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but a little better

graceful cedar
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p90 is still decent

lavish agate
lavish agate
lavish agate
lavish agate
lavish agate
cobalt zephyr
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i know

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is so op

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and its bad

lavish agate
graceful cedar
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its a freaking mythic if u nerf it that would make it a bad mythic and that doesnt make any sense

lavish agate
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It’s just my opinion tho

lavish agate
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It’s wayyy to op rn

graceful cedar
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um yea no its not

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its an smg

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its supposed to deal lots of damage up close

lavish agate
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But it’s fire rate is just insane

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It needs a nerf

graceful cedar
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its am smg

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a freaking smg

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it has a 24 mag

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so it has to reload a lot

lavish agate
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It’s reload is really fast

graceful cedar
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did u consider that?

lavish agate
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Yes I did

graceful cedar
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1 second is all u need to shoot a shotgun

lavish agate
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Yea and now that pump has been nerfed so much in the past if you have pump and you are fighting someone with a vector there is a 99 percent chance you are going to die

graceful cedar
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just tell the devs to add the kitchen gun

lavish agate
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What does that mean??

graceful cedar
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look up kitchen gun and toilet grenade

lavish agate
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Nah

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I didn’t get it

graceful cedar
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its op

lavish agate
graceful cedar
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just think

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what gun can clean a sink

lavish agate
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lol

graceful cedar
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and which grenade can clean a toilet

lavish agate
#

Off topic lol

graceful cedar
#

have u even seen a bolt before

lavish agate
lavish agate
graceful cedar
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so use it

lavish agate
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How can you if the opponent is in the same building as you and spamming a p90

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And it has already been nerfed that it can only deal a lot of damage at long range and 2 years ago it used to deal 70 damage when at close range and it has been nerfed now and now it is balanced

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If you nerf it more then it will be useless

lavish agate
graceful cedar
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shotgun, impulses, rpg, etc

lavish agate
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I really hope yang nerfs there weapons

1-p90
2-ump
3-vector
4-flamethrower
5-goo gun

lavish agate
graceful cedar
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flamethrower has no range even in a small house ars can counter

lavish agate
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It has decent range

graceful cedar
graceful cedar
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goo gun might need a nerf but its not so common that ur gonna get sprays from everywhere

graceful cedar
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ump is fine

lavish agate
graceful cedar
lavish agate
graceful cedar
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i used flamethrower before and its range is horrible

lavish agate
lavish agate
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And it is op I have used it a lot in my past when i wasn’t good

graceful cedar
lavish agate
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Nope

graceful cedar
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what about the range? was that buffed?

lavish agate
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Yea

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Try it out

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I’m game

graceful cedar
lavish agate
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It’s op

graceful cedar
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its not like its impossible to counter

lavish agate
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5 percent of the time yeah

graceful cedar
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noobs use it and they arent that good at aiming besides its a legendary unique so it is rare is not like every game u go against it

lavish agate
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You don’t need skill to use it

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lol

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It has good bullet spread and decent range

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No skill required

graceful cedar
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besides noobs dont make it that far into lategame so when the zone closes into a small spot where flamethrower is at its peak performance nobody is using it unless a pro is teaming with a noob or its squad and a pro is carrying

lavish agate
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And it’s not at al rare for me

lavish agate
graceful cedar
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not like noobs have any skill anyways

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newer players pick it up bcuz they want something good but they arent experienced so they cant aim properly

lavish agate
#

Most the time I go against spammers using the 5 weapons in late zone

graceful cedar
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ok and?

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r u saying u cant use those weapons?

wide cargo
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Noobs die in 1 minute how could they keep playing?

graceful cedar
lavish agate
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And team

wide cargo
lavish agate
#

Most of the time in end zone I see only spammers

graceful cedar
wide cargo
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Half and half. Some land faraway. Some die in 1 minute.

graceful cedar
#

THOSE WEAPONS ARENT RESTRICTED TO OTHER PEOPLE ONLY U CAN USE IT TOO

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a pro can just kill the teamers

lavish agate
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I know and I have used it

graceful cedar
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most of the time noobs die to pros

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extremely early

wide cargo
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If you survive the early massacre, remember you have a lot of the map left still to loot. You have a 90% chance of finding a flamethrower if you avoid everyone until 4th zone.

lavish agate
#

Well it’s f you are in PC lobbies of solos than yeah

wide cargo
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Mobile lobbies are their own. I guess theyre full of spammers?

lavish agate
#

Yea

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Literally no skill

wide cargo
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But @graceful cedar has a point you can use spam weapons.

lavish agate
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Yea

wide cargo
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You know what could help against everyone complaining about spammers? Making trees stronger. I am annoyed by the UMP a lot.

lavish agate
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Yea and I have used it but my concern is that it’s way to op like we all used the scar but it was op so we complained about being too op so it had to get nerfed

graceful cedar
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except that scar was like a long range smg so they nerfed it. most people dont get the point of smgs. they spam short range. its literally in the name
sub machine gun
machine guns dont shoot far but they do shoot fast

lavish agate
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Think of the spam weapons as like the scars they are too op so they need to get nerfed to make the gaming experience better

lavish agate
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To make it a good weapon

graceful cedar
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i think by spam weapons u mean smgs. if u do nerf smgs u nerf an entire class of weapons. newer players tend to pick it up to get used to aiming and so that they dont die first thing

cobalt zephyr
#

DELETE THE TRAITORS

wide cargo
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Just make trees way stronger. Then the spammer have no chance.

graceful cedar
wide cargo
lavish agate
graceful cedar
#

making trees stronger kinda nerfs sniper in a way. trees are balanced where they are bcuz they die in 1 hit by snipers. if u want trees to be able to withstand smgs, imagine how many hits and how much time snipers would take to break it

wanton surge
#

Add the thing that reverses you and takes damage

lavish agate
#

Trident??

wanton surge
#

Yea

graceful cedar
#

assuming a p90 does 6-7 damage per hit and is an smg, it should be able to shoot at a rate of 30-35 times per second because of the fact that it is close range.

lavish agate
#

Yea plz bring back trident

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I would like to experience it

wanton surge
#

Switch the mg36

graceful cedar
#

trident was worse than vector

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u guys want to nerf vector, but the devs had to FREAKING REMOVE TRIDENT BCUZ OF HOW BROKEN IT WAS

wanton surge
#

I only tried trdident for like one time

lavish agate
wide cargo
wanton surge
#

Why don’t people like Thor hamer

lavish agate
#

I like it

wide cargo
#

its good

wanton surge
#

It’s so good but it only does 30 damage

graceful cedar
lavish agate
wanton surge
#

Ohh

graceful cedar
#

thors hammer is like a fast rpg

wanton surge
#

Ik

young cosmos
#

._.

lavish agate
#

It’s too op

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Not gonna lie

wide cargo
#

The whole point is ARs/SMGs are too op. Remember there was once a time when the Legendary SCAR could take 210 damage in a second. Vector has 288 DPS but it is not that overpowered because it can only do 6 damage at times.

young cosmos
#

the vector shoots in a burst, dealing double digits close up

lavish agate
wanton surge
#

The uzi at least 50 damage 4s

lavish agate
#

Yes usi balanced

wide cargo
wide cargo
young cosmos
#

the only counter against the vector is to shoot from far away

lavish agate
#

Yes

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Otherwise it will destroy you

wide cargo
#

Thats how you deal with the casual with a bad combo.

wanton surge
#

And if you add the red scar don’t put it in the air drop

lavish agate
#

lol

#

Yea

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It’s op

wide cargo
#

24 damage. 10 firerate. Long range. That is the 2nd best SMG, best AR by miles. Less damage dropoff than Vector.

torn bloom
#

ahhhh

lavish agate
wanton surge
#

But it will be 23 bc they buffed it

graceful cedar
wanton surge
#

Yea

lavish agate
wanton surge
#

But still

lavish agate
wanton surge
#

I was killing people with it

lavish agate
#

Gonna see it in custom lobbies

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Tho

wanton surge
#

WAIT ITS IN COSTOM LOBYS

lavish agate
#

Yea

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Some of em

wanton surge
#

Ok ima join boxelder1

lavish agate
#

Ok

wanton surge
#

Bye

leaden dove
#

nerf rev nades

graceful cedar
#

y

willow spire
vast lynx
#

f

wanton surge
edgy meadow
#

buff the uzi make have a damage buff

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graceful cedar
#

twice?

graceful cedar
edgy meadow
#

not real

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Haven't see anyone pick it up in a long time

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ngl

graceful cedar
#

bcuz theres other guns as well

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do u use it

edgy meadow
#

no?

graceful cedar
#

then how do u know it needs a buff

edgy meadow
#

Because I used it

graceful cedar
#

u said that u dont use it

edgy meadow
graceful cedar
#

did it get changed?

edgy meadow
#

noooooo

graceful cedar
#

i dont use it so i dont have an opinion on it so maybe ask someone else

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im not qualified to talk abut uzi

edgy meadow
#

Its like the vector with burst

graceful cedar
#

well vector is good

edgy meadow
#

I said the vector with burst

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and less damage

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and no range

graceful cedar
#

u didnt say less damage

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smgs arent suppposed to have range

edgy meadow
graceful cedar
#

vector is a mythic and uzi's max rarity is legendary

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seems pretty balanced to me

edgy meadow
#

It does like 12 damage and is burst

graceful cedar
#

bursts of 4?

edgy meadow
#

I mean 12 damage when you close to the player

edgy meadow
#

or 6

graceful cedar
#

so each bullet does 12 damage?

edgy meadow
graceful cedar
#

oh ok den

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welp

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idk

edgy meadow
#

You know smgs

#

right?

graceful cedar
#

yes

#

they are meant to do damage up close and have like no range

edgy meadow
#

and has burst why would you pick it p

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up

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most people would just pick up a p90

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or a silence

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so they have to buff it

graceful cedar
#

um they dont

edgy meadow
spring moss
#

...

vale solar
#

Ok

crude basin
#

duo with

graceful cedar
acoustic crypt
#

sunflower seeds launcher

#

i lost my brain cells

lavish agate
lavish agate
lavish agate
lavish agate
mighty minnow
#

hi

warped tiger
#

oof

cobalt zephyr
#

can you guys at zombs please start working on the teamers >:(

#

ong i got 3v1ed by a buncha skullies

#

stop tryna advance ur game and start working on what u alr have

wide cargo
cobalt zephyr
cobalt zephyr
#

right now im feeling on switching back to shell shockers

wide cargo
wide cargo
cobalt zephyr
#

yea it will

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wide cargo
#

It will? Nobody checks those systems. You can play without an account just in case

cobalt zephyr
#

ok

wide cargo
#

But you have to download on Windows and it's a long process/

cobalt zephyr
#

until u uninstall the hax they wont let u play

wide cargo
cobalt zephyr
rancid karma
cobalt zephyr
#

cheaters are my true enemy in life >:(

wide cargo
graceful cedar
rancid karma
graceful cedar
#

i mean like going from p90 to vector is like bolt to awp

rancid karma
#

the thing about awp tho is thtat its no to different

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only 5 dmg differencce from legendary bot and wider fov and thats it

graceful cedar
#

awp is actually a lot better than bolt bcuz more fov means u can get more shots in

rancid karma
#

vector does have a giant leap

wide cargo
#

Dragunov has faster bullets so it is kinda underrated.

graceful cedar
#

i never noticed that

graceful cedar
#

check general chat its so dumb

rancid karma
#

ikr

graceful cedar
#

i lost braincells

crude basin
#

duo me yall'

wide cargo
graceful cedar
#

look up on general chat like wayyyyyyyy up

wide cargo
#

ok

molten zealot
#

The one thing I love about zombs that no other Battle Royale has is that they give out free cosmetics to all the people who don't spend money on this game.

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And also it has an awesome community.

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Keep Up the Great Work!

sudden cipher
#

lol

#

oh ok

wide cargo
molten zealot
#

Yeah Ik.

#

Also Happy 3rd Anniversary!

shut wagon
#

nerf the scar again

#

its too op still

#

and you get beamed rly easy

graceful cedar
#

its tied with ak

#

at least double scar isnt op like double ak

hexed stirrup
#

Need mate

#

😫

cobalt zephyr
#

everyone with the cake thing is teaming

young cosmos
cobalt zephyr
cursive spire
#

If you wants to duo my username is JbossGaming01#7017

floral stone
#

.

humble spade
#

!level

desert wagon
#

@near reef

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I deleted the stuff

#

@near reef

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@near reef unblock me and I will show u

cinder lynx
#

bbjjgjhjhjhjhjhjhjjjjhjjhjhjjjhjjjjjhjjhh

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jhjh

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wide cargo
#

ZombsRoyale loot-pool is made so that every weapon is viable. But it's kind of lacking in some spots. FAMAS was always too weak. If it is buffed by a LOT of damage then I think it would be VERY viable in many situations. M4 and SCAR are the same thing so the M4 is just loot-pool clutter which should be removed. I feel like a damage/fire-rate buff to the AR-15 will make it viable again. But I really think it needs some more range for more use. Assault might need a buff in range which will make it better even though it is already underrated. KSG just needs to be removed. 40 damage is just too little. Even in 50v50, an RPG would be easily better. VSS needs a damage buff to maybe 15. Hunting Rifle might need a damage buff. All SMGs except Silenced/Tommy needs lower damage but higher range. Range is what makes minigun so overpowered. That would fix SMG class. Tommy Gun needs a BIG damage buff to be an AR/SMG hybrid. And Silenced needs a damage buff. Make trees WAY stronger. Snipers 2-shot trees, RPG 2-shot, AR/SMG 50-shot. AR/SMG would literally be dominating with weak trees and 0 cover. And it would be spray-and-pray because best weapon wins.
TL;DR - FAMAS Extreme Damage Buff, AR-15 Damage/Range Buff, Assault Range Buff, VSS 15 Damage, Hunting Rifle Damage Buff, ALL SMGs but Silenced/Tommy Less Damage More Range, Tommy Extreme Damage Buff, Silenced Damage Buff, KSG Removed, M4 Removed, and trees way stronger to reduce spray-and-pray. BEFORE YOU HATE THE IDEA, TELL ME WHAT YOU WOULD CHANGE. THE POINT OF THIS IS NOT TO ARGUE ABOUT BUFFS. THE POINT OF IT IS SO THAT ALL WEAPONS ARE ACTUALLY USEFUL AND THE LOOT-POOL ISN'T CLUTTERED.

wide cargo
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what does it mean "a"

stoic brook
stoic brook
wide cargo
stoic brook
wide cargo
stoic brook
vast lynx
#

hello

stoic brook
#

and by the time u finsih they would have drank minis or hybrids

vast lynx
#

what are the best guns

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or weapons

#

i wanna become better

stoic brook
#

uhh the best ar class weapon is scoped m4 imo

#

mythic ak is op if u know how to burst

vast lynx
#

but isnt ak good

stoic brook
#

yea

vast lynx
stoic brook
#

uhh

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like

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ill use dots as bullets

#

so

vast lynx
#

do u need mobile for that

stoic brook
#

gun ... stops ...

stoic brook
vast lynx
#

ok

stoic brook
#

ak does this

vast lynx
#

does what

stoic brook
#

... stops ... stops ... and so on

vast lynx
#

ok

stoic brook
#

scoped m4 is ......................

vast lynx
#

what is better gold scar or purple ak

stoic brook
#

scar got nerfed way too hard

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imo i think ak is better

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imo means in my opioion

vast lynx
#

chetzis made a vid about ak buff and scar nerf

stoic brook
#

yea

vast lynx
#

ak used to do 16 or 17

stoic brook
#

@young cosmos is good at explaining things

vast lynx
#

now its does 18

vast lynx
stoic brook
vast lynx
#

i never dmed him anyway

stoic brook
vast lynx
#

noo it says he hasnt blocked

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must have been another one

#

or a glitch

#

or smthing like that

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hes offline anyway

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so i cant talk to him

stoic brook
#

ight

vast lynx
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@stoic brook are u gone