#game-balance
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lol
ye
ye
lol
the new area is toooooo biggg
nah
either reduce flamethrower range or reduce its burning effect, you can’t have both
Its good
Nerf goo gun
Burst of 3
Instead of 4
That would be better
The poison effect is huge
Goo gun is good 
Honestly I'm tired of this game becoming nothing but horrible
Stop realeasing op guns
And buffing guns
This game is no more fun
Around season 2 or so was the most balanced time
Yes
No
Uncommon ak is still good
16 damage per shot
Thats still a 7 shot kill to no shield
Only 2 less bullets than the mythical
Vector on the other hand
13 damage about 10 bullets per sec
Imo
Shotgun's biggest enemy is MP5, if you missed a shtgun, mp5 destroys you.
The worst buff of the year is rubber gun
IKR
Add some new guns
Like ones that aren’t rapid fire
Maybe a sniper that is rocket
Or a sniper that slice through people with a ‘bleeding effect’ that isn’t seen
Re
release less mythic guns
i guess its a 'legendary' idea 😉
lol
@scarlet bone Hello, my name is poisonrain007 and I stream this fun and awesome game. As playing I found some problems that people are taking advantage of. People often enjoy sniping then switching to their primary to deal massive damage. I do enjoy doing this but I’m almost any games you would have to wait a little (~0.5 sec) to switch. Also double pumping is still in the game, again you should have to wait a little (0.5 sec). That is all I have to say. Thanks Sela!
ok
@silver echo Sela has said this is a feature of the game of what you are referring to
@vale yew Delete that
^^yup
did they do it in every channel.. just deleted like 3
Mem
Also in report a problem
In there
This person who did it where probs surviv fan
But ZR > Surviv 
katana is in surviv
Proof
It's kinda secret though
Pigpower is typing making me nervous
it's getting old
umm deagle
Not a mythic only op gun
that's balanced
A new fun gun
It's hard to make a balanced pistol in game with miniguns, snipers, shotguns, SMG's, and assault rifles.
before we get a new gun we need to nerf the rubber gun first
👀
😉
Thx
hey
When will the devs address some of the main concerns of this game relating to game balance and lag issues ?
^^^^
Pls stop
JUST STOP
I hate this game
Unbalanced guns! Lag! More!!
I swear if this keeps going on I'm quitting
same
Tes
You know what lets rise up
Enough of this op gun stuff and unbalanced gameplay
i just want some confirmation from ANY developer that they are hearing us
YEAH
Almost all the posts in here reference to game mechanics and gameplay, but there is something else that should be considered.
I thoroughly appreciate the game design of nearly all cosmetics, especially the ones from the battle pass, F2P and exclusives.
But the daily shop has become pretty sour in terms of what's available for F2P players.
I do not use an adblocker, in order to support ZR and it's developers. I have so far accumulated 60 gems across all 5 seasons I have played (Season 1 didn't give gems for free).
I saved my gems because I believed ZR would keep producing rare items (backpacks/melees) that would cost 40 gems. I wanted a rare item that would be really cool and affordable.
But this season, the daily shop is full of "expensive" mythics, mythic bundles, and the Chest of the Gods (which costs 100 gems).
I know ZR might be struggling to make money, but this is kind of extreme. As in, making players spend at least $7 for a mythic cosmetic piece.
I know there's already a lot of cool stuff in the free chests, but I already have a lot of stuff after spending about 7,000 gold I accumulated before ZR released chests.
And besides, after opening all those chests, I only ended up with 2 mythic skins. I now have 4 total mythic skins since then.
The game designers are making really cool skins, for both the daily shop and the Chest of the Gods, but the over inflated prices are just too much for me.
So until something changes, I'm going to keep my gems to myself.
can we get an Amen for YEETHAW
More like RIP...
I Got Stream Sniped Again
@faint sundial this is #game-balance lmao
nice
@rigid orchid I'm discussing the current state of the game...
Doesn't have to be exclusively game mechanics
move celestial clouds to the edge of the map, I keep winning every match.
it's the most op spot i've seen
@faint sundial this is game BALANCE, where you talk about the balance of weapons; I think you'd be better off in #suggestions
Celestial Clouds isn't the best imo
I always lag in celestial
Same
same
Goo Gun less OP
Do it
THExGODTWISTER#8993 was muted
Xd
lol
😂 😂
It makes ppl hella triggered, a good combo is like goo gun and then p90 that'll melt them down to the core
how do you become a beta tester
is it really more burst damage to goo gun+p90 or just straight p90 if youre gonna commit I wonder
a game theory
🥁 Ba-dum Tss!
E
ok
nerf frag throw range
nerf throwable range in general
i could literally suck people that are 20 miles away from me my g
by giving them a fat slurp
u feel me
yeah and shurikens go forever lol
its like hey i just got killed from across the map 🤔
honestly
kek
ITS BACK
after over a month, the sheet is up to date once again
3 hours straight of gathering data
tysm leadbraw
@quiet basalt add radius it isnt too hard to gather data
@dim gull hey man, he's doing his best, Plus if you wnat to do the spread sheet make one
I helped him and he said it's not accruace
T
@bold raven hey man you didnt even gather data
nerf shurikens
naw'
how do u become a beta tester @pc beta tester
I dont know?
idk
i think u just join the pc beta tester server
theres an invite in the game homescreen
Can i get a date for the rubber gun nerf?
nerf nerf nerf rubber gun omg 70 in 1 hit with almost 100% chance to touch in a house or in cestial
they didn’t even play test it
there’s no way they saw 40+ damage every shot and thought that was okay
i hate the goo gun
Goo gun needs a buff
also, anyone not a fan of the new place on the map? I prefer more open space
in my opinion the goo gun is fine how it is
@cobalt zephyr @slow steppe plz don’t chat here
oof
oof
@left tendon ya they should keep the place they really overdid themselves there, but make the map bigger
Minigun is sooooo OP still
Oh yeah and delete half the map so my ak does something, not haveing 5 vectors and winning by camping
“Assault scar op “ “Thor hammer op” I hate how you can get killed by any one
Nerf rubber gun
-too
Funny how people complained the Thor hammer was weak in the release of its launch now people say it is OP
XD
always workin on keepin it up to date
Yeah Thor Hammer really needs the nerf. One hit and you're not only knocked, but you're completely dead in duos/squad mode
Thing is, there are so few assault scars that it's kinda worth it...
buff Burst rifle, Increase/decrease player speed, Storm too fast!, Thor hammer nerf, Buff shotguns by 3+damage per pellet
Nerf the rubber gun and minigun
Yes I agree
Mini gun is slow and nerf it out of the game
Also if player holds mini gun speed decreases to 5%
Minigun is well balanced imo due to the speed decrease and each individual bullet does little damage. But yeah rubber gun is ridiculous.
i was messing around with rubber gun the other day to see how high we could get the dmg
we got it up to 42
minigun is not balanced due to the fact that it lags nearly all low to medium end PCs. If I use it my framerate drops to 10 during continuous fire. please buff
or optimize
also map is too small for 100 player game
it is really hard to find a game during a day where you don't die from just engaging with 5 people simultaneously
parachute range is too short which makes this problem even bigger, usually only 2/3 of the map is looted in an entire game (estimated)
and yes please nerf rubber gun as well
shurikens need a major buff or needs to be removed. 6 bursts is very hard on your inventory because of the number of people you will engage with in the game.
healing items need rarities, and so do ordinary and impulse grenades.
melee skin should not affect damage (e.g. my Candy Cane Sword deals 18)
VSS also needs major buff, they are waaay too nerfed right now
What's wrong with melee skin affecting damage? I rarely see anyone using melee because ranged weapons
it gives an advantage in melee combat for people who have actively played and earned high rarity melee skins. this is not common, but it may decide the outcome of certain engagememns
the Minigun kills VERY easily, I got a quad-kill with it. another thing is that the mini-gun makes my game lag alot
Mini gun should be removed in all modes
Nah
Except squads zombies and 50v50
The accuracy and damage are very low
tbh It can kill easily, but you need to watch where you are going
Some people hate it
fair
If you have the game awareness of a mentally deficient ape you are able to avoid death from a mini
even*
I say it should only be in squads zombies and 50v50 so it's not completely gone
with mini?
yea
So what? I piled up a 14 kill game with a purple Scar. should that be nerfed?
poggers
You guys have fought against a mini gun right
yes
no
easy dub
Fight against a rubber gun
Rubber gun is only situational
Maybe I should drop places 100 times
As in?
Why tho?
k back
Doesnt increase performance now does it?
sorry I had to check the moon there is a lunar eclipse going on
oof I forgot
I don't even know where the moon is for me
fair XD
RN it's clear skies
Pretty easy to see the eclipse since it's clear for me
same
Mem
you guys on east coast?
Yes
ok
Midwest
12:05 so it should be happening rn
I honestly don't care about the eclipse
I'm not really into space
Plus it is 12am Monday so it's MLK day
right now it is turning black still. it's covered but isn't fully covered? idk
Rest in peace Luther
I feel like this is the wrong channel to be in
wait it's coming to mobile?
Yes
Lol shotguns are insane
I used a rare one and killed almost everyone who approached me
I only use shotguns in fortnite
lel
They are op after all
yeah
Literally as the wiki says, they are used to hurt
Rip purple tac in fortnite
wait it left??
I used it yesterday though...
What mode?
solos
norm
GG
no mistakes made here
I'm gonna watch yt
ok
pc players play with pc players, mobile with mobile, unless there are not enough people
🤔
Is there crossplay?
Any one wanna play a game of squads
ask in #looking-for-group-old
omg
@crystal oxide Please delete that message
and if you so desire
Post it in #looking-for-group-old
Thanks
yes
There
lower range of vector, increase damage
I believe the vector does not need any debuffs of upgrades.
really?
yea
how intresting
indeed.
It's good
and its fire speed TOTALLY dosent negate the effects of damage drop off
even when dealing 4 damage a shot'
its hits like 8 per mag
I like your sarcasm.
and shoots that rather quickly
lol
mhm
DEFINATLEY
not op
TOTALLY BALANCED As all things should be huh?
mhm
RE-evaluate your thought process
it seems to be faulty
@bold raven it's a tool in closerange
yeah, but the range is pretty good
So I don't really think you need some major changes
man i just used it
guy had full shield
and full hp
i lasered him from the other side of my screen
He died
very quikcly
quickly
Its INSANE in close range
and thats GOOD
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but in medim range its way to strong
its a close range wepaon
Im not saying nerf its range stupidly
just 2-3 tiles
How many wins do you have?
Why did they remove damage from snipers when you shoot from close range?
why would yo do that
I got a win using rubber gun
@cobalt zephyr Because they were too OP, doing heavy damage at close AND far range. Snipers in other shooters are hard to hit at close range, but since there's no way to recreate a "No Scope" in this game, they fixed it by reducing damage at close range.
I want to win with each special weapon i.e rubber, goo, grenade launcher, Thor (that should be really easy), flamethrower, mini gun,
And yea they are SNIPERS not shotguns they reduced damage because snipers suppose to be far range (don’t really understand how a 1.5 tile increase is considered "FAR") not close



nice

nerf rubber gun pls
^^^
^^^
rubber gun needs ADJUSTMENTS not a nerf
its stats are fine
but it needs to be adjusted
Maybe it could be like this
No bounce= 9 damage
1 bounce = 13 damage
2 bounce = 20
3 bounce =29
4 bounce = 38
5 bounce = 46
ball gets slower The more bounces it has done
to counteract this the Normal shooting speed is faster.
(a bounce is whne the balls it shoots Hit a wall and come back)
Rubber Gun is Meta as hek
op meta xD
epic
op meta is rubber gun, assault scar and scoped m4
ikr
ikr
it sucks unless its me
when a full squads comes at u with solely miniguns and thousands of small ammo
Yea that's really annoying
Can they make p90s and vectors a bit less range
no
i mean the way i use them it doesnt matter to me so sure
btw they already nerfed p90 and vector recently
still people r asking for a greater nerf from them
they dont understand that the devs already put thought into the guns and made them the best they could for fair gameplay
I know but everytime I'm a screen always they just chop me up
But then again that was like a month ago so maybe it fixed
But the fire rate is what gets you
tru
I'd say less dmg for rubber gun, not slower fire rate
And for minigun, less dmg nothing to do with spread
Who want to play with me?
Scroll up to see my sggestion
Because it's supposed to have good spread so you can aim at two people at once
pray
btu u get the point
yes
make minigun better its really bad xD
@fair goblet at least u get it
No
we get it
i dont care
lmao
@cobalt zephyr i dont belive thats #game-balance
however if u need people to play with you, feel free to ask in #looking-for-group-old
ok
@cobalt zephyr #looking-for-group-old
#removethehammer
nerf assault scars
remove everything unbalenced
does anybody know where the devs live so i can kill them?
add an airdrop shotgun
Yea
I believe that the game's current meta is too much based around mythical weapons that are "unique" meaning they have their own sort of category (basically all the airdrop stuff) such as the MG36, vector, AWP etc. I also think that the meta is currently comprised of ARs and all really all rounded.
Here's what I think should be changed
-All AR Dmg is reduced by 1 or 2 points.
-Dmg for ARs drop-off should start at the edge of where you can see the screen instead of outside of the screen.
-Shotgun damage should be based on how many pellets hit by a more specific amount instead of if a certain number pellets hit then it does a set amount of damage.
-SMGs get a slight range buff?```
That's all good, except SMG range buff, are you crazy??!!!
Their range is far too much already
@shadow prawn good stuff
please remove the HAMMER
please
the hammer is too op
i got spammed with the hammer and died
PLZ MAKE IT TO where pc people can get a chest every so an so hour, it should be more time but just to make it fair
Not happening
nerf flamethrower
please nerf the zombies.
ya
especially the opening doors zombies. OP
Always working to keep it up to date.
ty ty
hah
not me
buff snipers and nerf the hammer
Snipers are perfect as they are
hi
HEL-OH
tell that to the Best mobile players
lmao
i use an iphone 6
mhm'
i can also play the game on an ipad 4
Besides some FPS issues its amazing
Nerf the zombies that open doors
They are a little too powerful
![SM][ZR]XxNuW83rOn3xX ! MrShuriken go to https://discord.gg/XetkBF
To off topic
lol
lol
wtf
Gold Deagle
i love this game its actually so good
hi
@finite imp
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sup guys
nerf p90ssss
Nerf rubber gun
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everytime i drop ceclcstial there are like 5 kids with and i cant even do anyhtinhgnglgtrg
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im triggered
almost every time i try to do a event game mode it takes me to regular game mode for some reason.
Same problem as Cp
for example when i do weapon race ,super power or mystery mode it takes me to solos, when i do VIP or crystal clash it takes me to squads please fix this it really annoy me
correction annoys me
ok
the minigun is terrible
you should fix or upgrade it because it just slows you down and only 7 damage i would rather take an epic P90 because it does more damage and does not slow you down.
@buoyant notch what world are you living in, the fast fire rate and spread makes up for those flaws
its great for taking down teams if anything it is op
@buoyant notch funny enough, People complain to nerf it daily
thor hammer op
Minigun is fine. low dmg high fire rate. only effective at close range so you cant rek people
It's annoying tho
I don't get why
players are slowed down switch to fists and run
same with AK
The ak is not fast
slow fire rate but 2 rounds and you're done
And you have 3 bullets in each
one or 2 hits with shotgun and you're done. but they're only effective at close range
That's the point of a shotgun
I'm just saying the minigun is annoying because the thing just goes everywhere and doesnt take too much effort to kill anyone with it
P90 you have to get close
What about the rubber gun then?
Oh that's the worst
haha
Minigun I can deal with rubber gun no
I only have a couple gripes with the game. 1 - when joining weapons race I don't like that you join mid game sometimes
Yea that sucks
2 - and someone mentioned it earlier, I don't like choosing a game mode and being thrown into another game mode. Most of the time I don't realize it until I'm already playing. When it does happen though some in game features and stats don't work. The fog countdown just shows " -- " and my kills don't register. Some of the buildings don't recognize that I've walked in either. I'll still see the roof instead of the inside
I wish superpowers was a permanent game mode too. Maybe for ptp only
bots are annoying too but they're good for K/D spread I guess
@brazen ocean go to report a problem for that
its only op if u use it right
i saw that some player were doing duoble AK similar to double pump
hi
Nerf myths
Nerf assult scar’s damage plz it op when in the open
naw the assult scar is fine wdym
its also pretty rare
u saw 3 assult scar in one game???
oh nevermind i misunderstood you
?
thought you were talking about the airdrop AR idk why
oh
is the assualt scar the new mythic that shoots explosives?
yes
it's pretty much in every game
not for me lol
the bullets distract me from the explosive and i get hit by it and i die even if i have max sheild and health
i was exposed to the bullets for just 1.6 seconds!!!
i think it's nice to have super OP weapons
unless u on the recieving end
that's how mafia works
sometimes you get it
and most of times, it will probably be lost in the storm in a crate anyway
imagine this u played 6 rounds and you won all 6 then you play a 7th round and lose to a noob with an op gun
tough pill to swalllow right there
it is OP, but if you see a noob with it, you should be able to avoid it
also, don't run out in the open, there is always a possibility of a sniper
it shouldn't be nerfed
wat if they a noob that can aim?
and it is open, no bushes nothing to hide from thatexplosive and bullets
idk man try your best. he's lucky to have found it, let him have the advantage
and the win:(
#general or #looking-for-group-old plz
nerf hammer
like the user takes damage if they hit their hammer infront of em like how a rocket launcher functions
hola
hi
Yo
hola habla es pañol y soy pro player
remove hammer
@quick bison no
Hammer is OP to be fair
nah
@slim oyster yes
Shurikens ARE the best
they have good range
do 20 damage on hit
u can easily 1 shot with them
Simpl
best weapon
noob
no vector is the best
kinda but still the best
high skill
naw
hey anyone want to play
#looking-for-group-old @raven steeple
yes
@fair urchin put that in #looking-for-group-old please
k
Buff the VSS because it is absolutely useless now after the nerf, 8 rounds that take basically 10 dmg, not worth picking up, even the legendary, they should make it 10 rounds but slower fire rate and make the dmg like 15 at least
But if that isn’t good enough to do they might as well vault the gun
scrims
w
It's already seen a major buff my guy.
Nerf the Battle Scar, that thing shreds WAY too fast.
not even a chance to fight back
minigun and vss got nerfed to practically being unusable
atleast against any competent player
nah minigun is just op with the long bullet travel
Please don’t chat in here
Fix the rubber gun
It does like 44 dmg every single time it hits me
Thor’s yammer is kinda broken in close range combat due to the fact it doesn’t hurt the user
*hammer
make trasp
@ocean dagger on the floor, bad since everyone can see it. On the wall nice. On the ceiling OP
why do people enjoy this game
why not
it's fun
nah
surviv mashup with zombs
i swear everytime i pick up a vector there is no bullets in it
Poopface#7164
stop spaming pls
@naive drum here too
ty
rubber gun is BROKEN AF
Nerf ruber gun!
yes
buff gift launcher
buff launcher in general
i literally only pick it up for the ammo
back when it did 90 dmg and the mag was huge?
It should do 35
yes
and sticky nades should stick to people
:D
hey there teammate look at this ornament on me dies
Lmao
Gift launcher is crap since it doesn’t stick on people
Yeah Gift Launcher should have a sticking mechanism or be removed because it doesn't really serve a purpose when there's Grenade Launcher out there
hey
nice
hey gimme free gems and i'll give you a 5 star rating
pls im desperate
I spent like $2
and thats all i have
but i pulled some wack skin
😦
gimme gemssss
(cry)

ok
Buff rubber gun and buff p90 plz
nade launcher used to have round 25 bullets in it, each doing 90 damage or something, really easy to find and it WAS in the game. at one point. pretty overpowered if you ask anyone.
also, yea i would gree, p90 sucks. 9 to 10 damage a shot, its a P2000 with alot of ammo.
rubber gun is alright though
*nades not bullets sorry
add on scopes?
metir
p90 is actually trash
ArE YoU oKaY?
MUSKET
Rare - Deals 40 damage to Flesh (no Sheild once hit)
70 damage to sheilded opponents
reload time 1.6 seconds
range 24 tiles
FOV - Vss
Walking speed of AR's
Epic
Deals 45 damage to flesh (no sheild once hit)
deals 75 damage to Shielded opponents
reload time 1.6 seconds
range 24 tiles
FOV - Vss
Walking speed of AR's
LEENDARY
deals 48 damage to flesh (no sheild once hit)
deals 80 damage to shielded opponents
reload time 1.6 seconds
range 24 tiles
FOV - Vss
Walking speed of AR's
the Musket has NO damage fall off
I made the musket deal more damage to shielded opponents as it was used to hurt armoured opponents in real life, however to balance this it would have a LONG reload speed (1.4 seconds) and would be used as a Quick high skill high reward weapon, It would BALANCE fights by taking shield off 200hp players and allowing the other player a fair fight
We need to shorten the mag size of the Scoped M4 to 25
shorten mag size of assualt scar to 24
no
Naked Skins = Default Skins
its op
shorten the scoped M4 to 25because it does like 17 damage everytime it hits you,but te assault scar is fine since the explosion also damages the user of it
Assualt scar destroys everything
hit your shots
its insane
and dont be dmu wit it
I would rather take the silenced ar
Nah, scoped is
it kill you in less than 2 seconds
Or awp
scoped in close range is dookie compared to the other mythic ar
just hit your shots
🤷♂️
scoped is the 2nd or 3rd best
right
You can win without a sniper
and evrythign esle
but u need a AR
therefor
AR's are the best
Silenced AR-15 > Assault SCAR == scoped m4
me too
dont get me wrong
there all insanly op
just that Assualt scar in the hands of a well shielded an healed player is unstoppable
just be quater decent u can beat anyone
the silenced can shred from close range
the scoped I dont like since its basically a sniper with it being scoped
no scoped is really good
so Im walking around with 2 snipers most of the time
ew
Match make mobile with mobile only and pc with pc only unless it’s a cross platform lobby
Cuz pc default zoom is to Op to be going against us mobile
Scoped M4 = Assault SCAR > Silenced AR-15
not in all situations
assualt scar always good
Scoped m4 usually good
AR-15 can be op
but is usually good
Nerf rubbergun
Buff vector
Nerf smgs at far combat
The Smgs shoots too far, so the dmg should be nerfed at long rage
Make the that the thors hammer cant do dmg behind obstacles
Nerf the splash dmg and range
these are some funny jokes
Rubbergun needs no nerf, vector needs no buff, smgs don't fire far at all, thors hammer was made to do that, and the splash damage is fine. Only thing I can say is decreasing the range of thors hammer.
those are some funnier jokes
Rubber Gun needs a heavy nerf, vector is fine, SMGs are in a good state, Thor's Hammer should be kept the same
Honestly I think the Hammer should be as powerful as it is because there's only 1 per game
New update:all guns removed all skins removed map removed all modes removed more.
Just a joke
how about u nerf the zombies gamemode
AR's do a lot of damage
rubber gun needs to be removed
grenade launchers shouldn't be so easy to use
present launcher is useless
why is there even a gray smg when even the gray pistol is better than it 🤔
Not to be mean but if you can’t counter ars, can’t dodge grenade launchers it can’t use a rubber gun, ur a noob
And the difference btwn the smg and p2000 is that the smg has damage drop
@ashen lichen
^^
- ar is counterable but when you're in a wide open fight objectively you are forced to rush
- walk into a building and let them spam while they switch to other guns while they spam every other second
- what? im saying rubber gun needs a removal because its overpowered nothing about me unable to use it are you ok?
- damage drop. yeah ok but that doesnt answer my question
Rubber gun needs nerf not removal
Just watch boxelders try hard series you will understands
crossbow is gey
wdym
its just useless
average dmg
shot is slow
yeah sure its rare to find
but come on
not my point
im saying there are way more common snipers that are better
if ur gonna make the crossbow rare make it good
Its good man


