Cardinella! cards and relics! | Tako Boy Studios | Page 1

upbeat iron Dec 22, 2023, 7:15 PM

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cardinellagrin Cardinella [minion/legendary] (7 cost/1 power/ 8 health)
Played: draw a card, redeem a card from the same type and faction and shuffle 3 copies of it on your deck.

Cardlings [minion](3 cost/ 1 power/4 health)
Played: draw a minion with an active effect, gain it's effects

Obs. Active effects are the ones that are not keywords like 'played' 'combatstart' or 'death' etc. the card will copy only the non-keywords effects of cards

---relics---

Cardshop of wonders [elder relic]
When you play a legendary minion, shuffle a copy of it on your deck

Card permit [relic]
At the start of the game you can mulligan 1 additional time

Hidden ace[relic]
Cards that get shuffled on your deck cost 1 less

---Blitz burst---

Card craze [blitz burst]
{Draw 10 cards}
Remove all autocast cards from your deck, shuffle a random card that costs 1-5 to replace them

Obs. This is assuming that starting hand doesn't count as drawing cards

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 12:25 AM

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Me using Hidden Ace to make bombs cost -1

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https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

Tenor

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:16 AM

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hystericalpumpkin
Take 4 damage and gain 1 mana

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:16 AM

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Cardlings is terrifying

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You could play the bottom end of your curve with just good statted vanillas or exempted keywords, and then your 3-drop slot is drawing and copying like giga lategame cards

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Mind if I just 3 mana 8/9 rq

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:18 AM

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I haven't seen every active card in the tusk tales I wonder if there's any cards that's just too op with cardlings

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:19 AM

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Even something like that Nature 6-drop that is a 6/6 with barrier, tough, and guard would be like overwhelming

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:20 AM

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Should it give it fleeting then? Or maybe increase it's cost?

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:20 AM

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maybe I'm misinterpreting your clarification?

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I think copying the stats is the big killer

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having a really strong ability early but on a shitty body seems like no problem to me

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:21 AM

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The cards copy effects that aren't keywords, it won't draw a card that has like Rez that has 'infini-riff' for example

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:21 AM

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Oh huh

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so you'd copy like cannon?

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I wonder if there's a word for non-keyword effects, I def misinterpreted then

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:22 AM

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upper wagon so you'd copy like cannon?

Yeah, if you happened to be running a cannon deck

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:22 AM

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ok that clears it up!

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:23 AM

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upper wagon I think copying the stats is the big killer

Got it! So I'll give it base stats and remove the stat copying

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:25 AM

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Couple other questions:

Does it only target cards that meet its conditions? Or will it sometimes "whiff" and draw a card it can't copy
Can it copy cards that have both keywords and also passive effects? (in which case, it would presumably only copy the latter?)

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:26 AM

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If there's no non-keyword cards in your deck then it won't draw anything, it'll just die alone, without effect setosadness

I presume it would so, if the game has a way to search for it, and then It'll copy just the non-keyword effect

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:28 AM

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Groovy! I'm skimming the doc to see if there's any eggregious offenders in there, but nothing has stood out so far. I know the doc ain't perfect but

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:29 AM

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Cardlings can't draw even Cardinella herself because she uses a keyword

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By all effects Cardinella and cardlings should go well with any deck right?

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Card craze should go well to either counter bombs or capitalize on puffcaps and lightshow

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:37 AM

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Some of the huge stuff I can think of that this would highroll into would be like Ember Drake, Brass, Bolstered Module, Turpedo

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The draw is more meaningful for some than for others; drawing Brass, Turpedo, or something like an altar is pretty nice and you will either curve into it or feasibly play it same-turn for another copy; meanwhile, Ember Drake or Bolstered will sit in your hand forever haha

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:41 AM

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I wonder if draw 20 for card craze is too much if the others high cost cards will just clog your hand

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:41 AM

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Lobmasu is another big one, and Sting.

having skimmed through all the cards in the doc at least, I don't see anything particularly offensive. Imo the strongest would be cards that you would play already in a shell, something like Turpedo or Brass, that you would also curve into and benefit from having in hand. I think it's good, hopefully there's a good way to clarify the nature of the effect

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Card permit is cool, Cardshop of Wonders seems neat as well. I could see some silliness done with it but also I think the Elder Relic competition is very steep, and they are also doing some silliness with it

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:46 AM

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I was fearful that card permit wasn't very useful, it's not every time you'll actually need the second mulligan

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:46 AM

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I think that's like a perfect effect for a non-elder relic to have

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consistency booster, nice to have but not game-changing

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depending on how the mulligan logic works in this game, if it excludes the cards from your first and second mulligan choices, you have a really good shot of finding what you're digging for

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:48 AM

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And you probably want to keep your good brass and sting hidden for your cardlings

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What about hidden ace? It's supposed to synergize with Cardinella, cardshop and clone curator

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:52 AM

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I am still figuring out what I think on that one because I don't have a lot of context shuffling stuff in

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but it seems really strong (cost reduction in general tbh)

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especially since you could loop the cost reduction on the legendary and basically loop a 0 cost legendary every turn

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:53 AM

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At that point if you still didn't win hystericalpumpkin

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:54 AM

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well you could do a setup with a war deck and the only pirates are some barrel mutts and brass

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and then you'd guarantee draw and play brass every turn

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:54 AM

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But brass isn't a legendary is he?

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:54 AM

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oh is he not?

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Lemme check haha

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haha he ain't my bad

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:55 AM

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You could eventually play howitz for free which seems funny

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:56 AM

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looping coxswain with the barrel mutt strat instead

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https://tenor.com/view/run-bombs-gif-7915724

Tenor

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:57 AM

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8 Coxswain on board, You only need 1 bomb cbsmirk

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 1:57 AM

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If you draw a bomb it bricks your computer

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 1:59 AM

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I also like to think Cardinella as the ultimate anti mill card, you could just draw a copy of her with her own effect and fill your deck back

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 2:00 AM

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it's jade druid all over again

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~~anything that makes control warrior suffer makes me happy~~

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 2:00 AM

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Jade druid?

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 2:00 AM

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Ah it was an old hearthstone archetype

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you had a card where you'd play it and get two choices:

summon a x/x (every time you do this it gets bigger)
shuffle 3 copies of this card in your deck

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so they were unmillable; decks that relied on 1-for-1ing the whole match culminating on a win where the opponent is decked out literally could not win

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 2:02 AM

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Huh, I felt like I've seen this but the last time I played hearthstone was eons ago

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 2:02 AM

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iirc this one was somewhere in the neighborhood of the standard/wild split? Like somewhere in the year that happened I think

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 2:04 AM

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If it helps the last time a player hearthstone was in an update where there was eldritch beings whispers or something... Hold on let me see

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 2:05 AM

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oh that was cthun

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I think that was right on the split actually, so you were close to where this happened haha

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 2:07 AM

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Whispers of the old gods
Yeah that's the one

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There where cool cards and I didn't want to play PvP to get pulls so I just gave up

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 2:08 AM

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Yeah I had a LOT of fun with HS and I also played a LOT but keeping up with it was just too tiring. When I play ccgs like that I have kinda a bursty binge for a few months then take a year off playstyle, and coming back to a whole collection of unplayable cards stopped being sustainable

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 2:11 AM

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I loved to do one has was "when you play a spell, freeze a minion" and then I'd have two of them and a bunch of low cost spells, it was fun, I'd still lose redcroftflushed

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 2:13 AM

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Ah the fixed version of Flamewaker!

upbeat iron Dec 23, 2023, 2:16 AM

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I was way less experienced in deck building back then so I'd almost never win, so I didn't play PvP much, so I was always behind to get cards and card backs, it was kinda demoralizing

Which is a thing I'm glad CroB isn't because I love card games

But I digress, it's good to know that Cardinella and get related cards are in a good spot balance-wise, I wanted to think of a card for her for the longest time cardinellagrin

And thanks for the feedback

upper wagon Dec 23, 2023, 2:18 AM

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solid batch of ideas for sure, good stuff!

upbeat iron Oct 31, 2025, 3:24 AM

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Cardinella my beloved, I should revisit this concept

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