#art-discussion-and-wip
dusky trail
it has auto-complete, just type on_side then finger_to_mouth
or just type on or finger then look for the rest
stiff junco
not honkai related but i fell in love with au-delete's style and decided to study it
whole cloak
delete_au style >> I love their eyes style
dusky trail
though with that kind of detail on the eyes, it can make like she has bag on her eyes
onyx breach
lets just see how theyll go with shading the eyes
coz itll only go either way, she becomes Tanya the evil or it turns out beautiful
dusky trail
i still hate how they use Tanya and other in the anime =3=
dawn rapids
Cat style
whole cloak
these eyes are the artists signature
I think the sketch looks like baggy eyes because the irises you drew don’t touch the bottom of the eyelids, which isn’t really possible irl without difficulty
boreal fjord
Gonna test it but "SKG4" Name thats my calling to HOV
grave nymph
anyone here have link to CSP brushes like the ones they use on manga where it draws patterns and stuff?
looking for those dot ones and hexagonal ones if you know what I mean
dusky trail
well there is no brush but shouldn't those pattern already come pre-install in CLIP anyway
and if they don't have the pattern you need, you can make simple pattern yourself and import it in
and then easy dot pattern
grave nymph
ah so just make a brush?
grave nymph
I kinda want to find those ones where the size of the dots vary on pen pressure
though that's an option right?
dusky trail
ya not a brush but it something work too
dusky trail
or just magic wand the part you want to apply the pattern then cut out the rest
onyx breach
Shii drawing offbrand books now
dusky trail
those dot dot thing usually come from preset tone paper
mangaka often just apply that on the page then cut out the part they don't need
onyx breach
Shii gonna draw a doujin of shik getting genderbent
grave nymph
uhh no
onyx breach
Why not?
dusky trail
Shii clearly only want to add the D in without change the gender
grave nymph
I'm trying to make informatics for beta guides
and since I only use csp why not just make stuff there w
onyx breach
Scp?
grave nymph
onyx breach
Clip.Secure.Protect?
grave nymph
dawn rapids
grave nymph
omedetouuu!
onyx breach
Why is paimon there?
dusky trail
not that hard to get promote there anyway, though is there even a benefit to get that title?
dusky trail
as long you throw in one post for 3 months and you pretty much get it easy~
unlike the real CC title
even Shii took 4 years to get
dawn rapids
dawn rapids
even Shii took 4 years to get
How much shii old
dusky trail
you gonna have to ask Shii that
onyx breach
He's 4, was already aiming for cc before he was born
dawn rapids
Old man
lone wagon
Pikachu tote bag that I couldn't resist getting because look at thid art. Its so cute. Pikachuisnt even mg favourite pokemon but look at this!
dusky trail
pouting face always cute
make you want to poke your finger onto they cheek, even if Pikachu's cheek is basically an electric outlet
dusky trail
and then it choke on the lolipop, the end
shadow nebula
Study wip
dusky trail
i always prefer the thigh muscle than the calf part
the way it looks pack with meat~
onyx breach
Ah pouting, something that is cute in anime but is the total opposite in real life
grave nymph
How much shii old
people say am 3
grave nymph
even Shii took 4 years to get
lament stump
good morning
dusky trail
and everyone run the moment Aki show up
lament stump
sadgeeee
anyways i took some pic of my self for the new drawing i have in mind
so les go
late carbon
lament stump
@onyx breach so there was something wrong with shipping of kamvas 16 2021 and i my dad ordered a kamvas Pro 16 2020
so idk if pro from 2020 can be as good as 2021
onyx breach
Its fine, the difference is just you'll get a scroll bar for zoom in 2020 instead of 2 buttons on 2021
Heres what you'll get
lament stump
thank
dusky trail
getting used to variant layers style sure help you plan thing a bit better
lament stump
what's that
dusky trail
it is when you draw in a way you can swap out the part for other thing
like that Yae draw i made, with the bottom can be replace to "something else"
it is quite popular in web manga nowday too
since just by changing the expression and dialogue, you can change the whole context of the page after all
lament stump
@dusky trail send me that thing of how you shape torso aka upper body
the pic that's been in this channel for so long and i never save it
it's rib cage and like torso
with yellow that marks the thingys
dusky trail
not ring a bell
lament stump
eh
whole cloak
Taco guide?
dusky trail
and now i sudden have urge to play with figma
dusky trail
you know~ the type of figure you need to put the part together
whole cloak
ohh
lament stump
i did my last pic with that guide and i remmember sel llling me i did a good job for the upper body uwu
dusky trail
onyx breach
Variant layers are annoying to make tho, specially coloring the base
dusky trail
and sometime people milk out the single page too much
4 is one thing but when you made like 10-12 of them with barely change is a bit much
onyx breach
Yup its just hassle but it pays well
dusky trail
ya a lot of my clients seem really into that type
if they want various face expression, you can even send them the file so they can change it out however they like
dusky trail
head too big while the torso got a whole chuck cut out
onyx breach
Always remember that the mid area is always built by 3 shapes
onyx breach
Left side
lament stump
ye after blocks i started doing 3 shapes
lament stump
but I'll use this to fix it ty
dusky trail
that looks like a chubby man either wear a really tight undy or a loincloth
lament stump
and btwww it's gonna be hu tao fan artttt
dusky trail
then that is one chubby Hu Tao
lament stump
going into slightly suggestive content he he
she gonna say "shh" with that finger on mouth while slighly lifting her short with her other hand
now that all sounds very cool but ig it gonna be a lil hard to do
dusky trail
Aki few months ago "but isn't that weird to draw a girl even though i'm a man?"
and then Aki now
talking with Delay sure corrupted him greatly
lament stump
NO
i was always saying isn't it weird to draw a man if I'm a man
i swear it was like that
dusky trail
sure
onyx breach
Aki taking notes: Never learn anatomy from someone who always draw nude ppl
lament stump
when is someone of you 2 gonna do a speed paint and upldoad it on yt
every single on of yt is painting and not with line art
dusky trail
i did thou
onyx breach
:>
lament stump
and they just make a body out of nothing, like boom here's a body, if you 2 do the same and you don't need thes blocks and shit then eh
lament stump
i did thou
send link
dusky trail
like 7 years ago
onyx breach
Ok, ill make one as soon as I get an sfw com
dusky trail
someday
lament stump
Ok, ill make one as soon as I get an sfw com
good lukc with that
dusky trail
but of course i'm not the type draw body in detail beside the shading anyway so i have no reason for that
so go ask Sel for it
onyx breach
gimme a break ppl
dusky trail
or just go watch Lack's stuff
my style of shading is also similar to that, using thick line to draw then slowly adjust it
Lack is quite into live stream his stuff nowday too
dusky trail
thigh too long while calf too short
lament stump
cuz silver put her knees so much more down then i did 1st time and i got confused
pog
dusky trail
the right's knee is too low
whole cloak
The hip area isn’t that simple
lament stump
alr I'll get back to it later, i got the general shape down at least
whole cloak
try measuring out lengths
Tilting a leg doesn’t make it longer, if anything it makes it look a bit shorter
pliant saddle
Does this channel also give advice on cosplays 
north wraith
Does this channel also give advice on cosplays <:SakuraBomb:585549226709352451>
Yes! 
Writers and Cosplayers are included
dusky trail
not that many cosplayer or writer even pop up here
lament stump
why tf would you put your signiture likr that
i hope you won't post that somewhere with that
solemn inlet
so you can't steal it easily
solemn inlet
it's for wip purposes then
lament stump
i hope
hardy yew
i dont post it anywhere else
its just discord
its a gift for a friend its just like that for no steal purpise
dusky trail
Aki just want to make candz's guard down so he can steal
onyx breach
lament stump
Aki just want to make candz's guard down so he can steal
you think i wanna steal a chibi
I'm sad now
hardy yew
plus why shouldnt i put a fat ass watermark on my art smh
lament stump
when someone did a good art
but was too lazy
so they cutted it out
still got 9k views tho
dusky trail
you also need to see how many ppl follow them in the first place
lusty breach
Just keep posting stuff aki and the algorith will probably love you
And you're gonna be famous
onyx breach
Hmm
hardy yew
view doesnt matter if you dont get better
focus more on practice and not stalking other peoples views
whole cloak
no that's stupid
it’s stupid until you meet art thieves that stop at nothing
onyx breach
Stalk on my request tab then, aki
lament stump
no idc about how much money you make
it will just make me want to do that too even more
lament stump
um idk
tought of being popular?
and the thing that demotivates me is that tablet is here in month and a half but untill then i gotta use this shit
hardy yew
it’s stupid until you meet art thieves that stop at nothing
yeah ive seen artwork with “do not repost” and the artist’s name on the art and then it was all over pinterest
or art that says “commission” and i see other people using it
onyx breach
I've said this before, never become a kind of person who is slave to their followers, but you can become the opposite.
lusty breach
I'll make the followers my slave
onyx breach
Yes
whole cloak
What ref do you need
hardy yew
looking for void drifter kiana but cant seem to find a good ref
i gave up looking ill just guess on parts i cant see
lament stump
@shadow nebula Hellooo could you do your ussual redline of my anatomy when you have some free time, can't seem to get that right hand to work and everything else that might be wrong but i don't see it :)
edgy totem
plucky bobcat
shadow nebula
<@!215721009314136064> Hellooo could you do your ussual redline of my anatomy wh...
This is very rough, some very slight adjustments to somethings. I wasn't sure how you want the right arm exactly so I did this
hardy yew
https://tenor.com/view/mamako-oosuki-okaasan-online-jump-happy-celebrating-gif-1...
be careful with those
lament stump
This is very rough, some very slight adjustments to somethings. I wasn't sure ho...
Tysmmm
whole cloak
photo study except I can’t figure out the eyes 
can anyone recognize her
lament stump
No
I know this is super fucking weird that I'm going to say this to you but her keft eye is too big
Lasso tool and making it just a lil smaller should maje it feel ok
And i can assume that you already know what's wrong with other eye
Nose also seems to be on a line that isn't totally straight while mouth is
And eyes aren't on the same symmetrical line at all
That's what i meant by "wrong with other eye" earlier
Again I'm super sorry this is so weird that im criting you, it all might be nonsense but if it was my studie/wip I would change the things i mentioned
If you think things that i said make sense i can show you hiw does symmetric lines should all be
whole cloak
first off there’s no need to think it’s so weird, I can definitely use critique and I frequently miss really obvious things aha
Could you draw out the symmetrical lines?
ref btw and I added a few values
shoot shaded lips in the wrong direction
lament stump
first off there’s no need to think it’s so weird, I can definitely use critique ...
Cuz it's 1am can it wait untill morning
Nvm i can explain it real quick
So
lament stump
Mouth nose and eyes and eyebrows shoudl all be in the same parallel lines if one line is straight all sgoukd be streight if one is tillted all should be tillted, go directly under your nose mouth and eyes and do a streight line you'll see how they are not parallel
When i was saying symmetrical i rlt meant parallel
Now all that should be applied to a basic perfect model
Not all are perfect
That Japanese girl does seem to not follow the rules of perfect face
lament stump
All in all, every art guy says they should be parallel or else it will be weird
whole cloak
aren’t they parallel?
lament stump
Tbh her face does look wierd in that pic not just your drawing
Nose is tillted too much imo
shadow nebula
whats possibly also throwing you off is that her head is at a very slight tilt but you're drawing her looking straight. When I say tilted I don't mean turned
whole cloak
ah
lament stump
And what with the mouth line it's not tillted like the line says
shadow nebula
if you draw lines between the corners of her eyes, eyebrows, mouth, nose you'll see it at an angle
lament stump
All tho it should be
Shading made her nose look pointy 
Not so much shading but the lines of the sketch with shading
I always liked pointy noses
They have that nice curveee
whole cloak
you probably can’t tell but I tilted it a bit
tilt more or
shadow nebula
a tiny bit more and make her mouth wider
whole cloak
adjusted some things ignore the other one
upper turret
i just finished this
whole cloak
a few more changes, I’ll leave it here for today if anyone has more critique that’d be helpful ty
hardy yew
god this took forever, there was no good reference on google
its so cool to turn the file into 30 sec speedpaint and see how fast it looks
onyx breach
But you just needed the head part o.O
grave nymph
just look at their chibi in game
hardy yew
But you just needed the head part o.O
the diamond headband thing was a pain
so i just winged it
turned out decent tho
dusky trail
a few more changes, I’ll leave it here for today if anyone has more critique tha...
the nose shade is too much in the middle, it kinda conflict with her right eye, make it feel rather far away
so i guess either twist her nose so it is slight side way or move her right eye in to fit
whole cloak
like this?
I fixed more values too
and her eyes are naturally spaced a bit farther than usual
dusky trail
well if you covered the nose and only look at the 2 eyes, she looks like she stare at you while slightly on the side
but if you covered her right eye and only look at her nose and left eye, it is more like a straight forward face
dusky trail
well i'm not that type draw the nose like that so i can't say for sure, but the only fix i can see is to shade the nose to look less center
since the nose is the main problem right now
dusky trail
full solstice
?
i think the issue is that the way you drew the nose is incorrect
the right nostril should be larger if she's facing that angle
dusky trail
ya also notice that after i zoom in now
full solstice
yeah
cuz the shading is accurate especially with the reference picture
but the issue is the way the nose is drawn
whole cloak
bigger or
dusky trail
you could look at this for the nose shape
since it is not in the shade so you can see it easier
whole cloak
this is what happens when drawing simple anime style noses too much
dusky trail
nose is weird, just put a dot instead
whole cloak
makes life simple
ykw I give up on this nose I’ll just do nose studies later
tysm for the help everyone 
shadow nebula
quick studies
@whole cloak I redlined for you. You had it almost correct just very very minor adjustments and then i adjusted the mouth to match with the nose
whole cloak
thank you!
dang noses
hardy yew
quick studies
amazing
wraith vault
i finished my first digital piece, what are some tips to improve for the next piece?
(art is of chamber from valorant 
)
shadow nebula
You have a good understanding of anatomy the main thing to improve on would be your values. Everything currently looks to be almost the same value so you really can't see the various planes of the face or the folds of the clothes
lost wagon
You have a good understanding of anatomy the main thing to improve on would be y...
Yeah I agree. The line is good. Value is the way to go now.
Maybe try gray scale once to get a feel of it
wraith vault
now that you mention it I can for sure see how monotone it looks so ill definitely start practicing that
thank you both :)
lament stump
good morning
dawn rapids
onyx breach
Sayu?
dusky trail
imagine using Sayu other than her roll
dusky trail
beside the pattern on her clothes, you won't call her outfit "complicated"
like if you remove all the detail, it just this
and then throw in detail after
but this is the same as any outfit, just know which part you can break to turn it into simple shape then throw detail on after
onyx breach
Its futsu
dusky trail
at least call it a tail coat, not a cape
onyx breach
Prolly the more annoying one to draw
dusky trail
make it intertwined they say, it will be fancy they say
onyx breach
But ye its pretty easy to draw
dusky trail
you don't want to have the habit of looking at detail outfit and think it is too hard anyway
feel free to complain about outfit with giant weapon or cape blocking the back so you have no clue how it look in the back though
sturdy mural
gotta start jumping with raven in ow then huehuehue 
hardy yew
feel free to complain about outfit with giant weapon or cape blocking the back s...
i hate this so much
plain bane
I don't find it too bad?
whole cloak
drawing on phone takes a while to get used to yea
civic ore
Pain
hardy yew
the anatomy needs some work but I really like the pose
lament stump
looks cool
except right hand
i want to make it so she does the "shh: gesture with her hand
late carbon
robust tapir
ocean flower
robust tapir
Its still on sketch so i didnt bother fixing it
lament stump
also neck
the neck
each time you give less crits witch meansss, me improved les go
still apprichiate the crits tho
ty
hardy yew
lament stump
Not trying to be rude but didn't you already send that
Or does it have more stuff on it now i don't remember the last one
hardy yew
Or does it have more stuff on it now i don't remember the last one
Just the lineart
Only thing that changed from then and now
lament stump
You use mechanical pencil for line art?
hardy yew
I use this
hardy yew
You use mechanical pencil for line art?
hardy yew
Wtf
Lmao i’m not sure it just feels good to use and it looks good too
i can give you the link
lament stump
Idk, it's kinda ballsy to not use g-pen aka any pan that is just full completed line for line art
I'm curios to see how it will look at the end
Wait do you keep line art at the end?
hardy yew
Yeah i usually keep the lineart at the end
lament stump
Oh from honkai?
hardy yew
Yesh yesh
lament stump
I don't play the game so sorry for the lack of knowledge lmao
hardy yew
It’s all good i be forgetting their names too 
lament stump
I remember that they alk have same names in that game
It's like one girl has 10 names
Super weird
hardy yew
Probably helps quite a lot though keeping track
lament stump
By the fucking way
For some reason
I read "i love you" from the lips of your pfp
Kinda wild
hardy yew
Youre right actually
lament stump
No way yooo
sinful imp
hardy yew
lament stump
Kiana read it too she just doesn't wanna flex like me
pliant saddle
Materials for fu hua cosplay.. colours are more than slightly off but good enough </3
I went through the whole pasar and I couldn't find anyone who sold leather/faux leather for clothes 
fiery lantern
what
pliant saddle
What?
grave nymph
<@!391133066933829632> that is what i mean when i say "applying tone"
ahhhh
now I understand w
dusky trail
though unlike digital, if you not careful when cut and scrapping tone, you may damage the paper below too ohohoh
dusky trail
is that a girl or dude?
edgy cairn
girl
dusky trail
personality type?
edgy cairn
probably something like beidou, if u play genshin
edgy cairn
alright, ty
this is my first time really drawing unreferenced... not sure on how well i did
dusky trail
though i think that shoulder length and slightly bushy like the one on the right would suit that more
since you can put some long bang to slightly covered the eyepatch
dusky trail
the arm is rather long there
edgy cairn
ill shorten it. any other suggestions?
dusky trail
nothing too off, i guess the fox could be on the same ground at least, unless that thing can fly around
edgy cairn
fox will be flying ig im too lazy to add a ground aokadhuhjeiedef
dusky trail
then nothing else too weird right now
fiery lantern
Flying fox
fiery lantern
can anyone help with the placement of the pupils
edgy cairn
where is the person looking at?
fiery lantern
the front
so like
at u
it doesn’t really matter if she is looking up or down
I’d rather
like middle ig
idk
edgy cairn
id udjust the eyelashes to directly at the mid, unless shes looking directly at you from the side
if shes looking from the side, place the pupils more to the right
otherwise just place it in the middle
wraith vault
im gonna try coloring, but what are some critiques before i do?
dawn rapids
I need help with the pupils
I thought she closed eye
dawn rapids
im gonna try coloring, but what are some critiques before i do?
Remove hand form butt line
shadow nebula
some quick studies
grave nymph
🙏
dusky trail
im gonna try coloring, but what are some critiques before i do?
the only weird noticeable thing would be the bag's strap i guess
it should be slightly side way in that angle
lament stump
Good morning
lusty breach
Good evening
grave nymph
good bye
craggy smelt
Absolutely forgot to practice perspective 
lament stump
You don't need much of it if you do caracters
craggy smelt
many people suggested to practice it before anatomy
lament stump
Kinda stupid
craggy smelt
hardy yew
both, Both is good
craggy smelt
I did also notice that my drawing was lacking something
lament stump
Just doing anatomy is fine, you'll learn perspective along the way
craggy smelt
it was too stiff
craggy smelt
what is your method to anatomy?
craggy smelt
No offense
none taken
dusky trail
well you don't need to focus on perspective to make it less stiff
lament stump
idk if id take advice about that coming from you
Well don't take it from me take it from art guys on yt
craggy smelt
well you don't need to focus on perspective to make it less stiff
I was not saying perspective can fix it
I was just saying that my previous drawing was stiff
dusky trail
a common thing for newbie to struggle on would be "where the heck do i put the arms?"
lament stump
Shik send me some crazy anime girl face
dusky trail
so try out various pose can help a lot
craggy smelt
a common thing for newbie to struggle on would be "where the heck do i put the a...
I dont have that problem
dusky trail
hardy yew
and if you cant tell if something looks out of place or not try doing the pose in real life and see how it looks/feels
dusky trail
so just have some fun drawing normal pose like wiping face, touching and so on
dusky trail
and if you cant tell if something looks out of place or not try doing the pose i...
depend since some people don't have confident looking at themself for that
just look at Aki
the horror
craggy smelt
so a method I saw on practicing anatomy was breaking down real life references to shapes
3d shapes
hardy yew
yes that works
lament stump
the horror
I don't get it
dusky trail
ya practice framing can help
craggy smelt
is there a youtuber u guys recommend?
lament stump
We probably all have different recommendations
dusky trail
i only watch speed drawing
craggy smelt
true
lament stump
I recommended Marc burned
craggy smelt
ok
lament stump
No ide if i got the last name right
He made a caracter drawing tutorial recently
Idea*
dusky trail
it just easier for me to learn the trick from looking at speed drawing rather than someone try to explain it
craggy smelt
can I learn to draw anatomy even if the guide is for digital art?
hardy yew
i like watching speed drawing but theres not many i like on my software
lament stump
Lmao
hardy yew
lament stump
Ofc you can
dusky trail
not like digital art draw anatomy different way
hardy yew
can I learn to draw anatomy even if the guide is for digital art?
absolutely
dusky trail
unless you just being lazy and use 3D model as base reference
craggy smelt
absolutely
ohh ok thanks
hardy yew
just that youre able to erase less since paper
lament stump
~~unless you just being lazy and use 3D model as base reference~~
You see that's why i don't use them
dusky trail
lament stump
You would bully ne for that as well
craggy smelt
just that youre able to erase less since paper
just draw lightly
dusky trail
well i don't think the use of 3D as base is bad, what bad is if you just use that shape without adapt to your own art style
like those "tree" brush you used before
craggy smelt
how long have u guys been practicing?
craggy smelt
U guys seem like pros
hardy yew
school started and beat me up so i suck
craggy smelt
I wanna learn from u
lament stump
I'm a pro
lament stump
Ain't that right skih
hardy yew
aki 💀
dusky trail
if draw for over 10 years and i can't became a veteran then i probably should stop drawing
craggy smelt
if draw for over 10 years and i can't became a veteran then i probably should st...
1 decade 
hardy yew
i started drawing in july so i wouldnt be called experienced
dusky trail
but of course back then i just draw it as hobby
to kill time at school so i don't fall a sleep during lesson
hardy yew
mostly the advice i give is kinda common sense
lament stump
i started drawing in july so i wouldnt be called experienced
Same, but why do i feel like you're better then me :/
craggy smelt
mostly the advice i give is kinda common sense <:ANLiliyaUhh:832339191177805948>
Its a good advice but not much would understand
hardy yew
Same, but why do i feel like you're better then me :/
nah idk about that
lament stump
to kill time at school so i don't fall a sleep during lesson
Mood
craggy smelt
Same, but why do i feel like you're better then me :/
same here but u sound better
than me
lament stump
That's cuz i was in this channel way before you
dusky trail
Aki is just old
craggy smelt
this channel seems very helpful tho
lament stump
I wouldn't improve as much if i wasn't here
hardy yew
dusky trail
well ppl usually comm the kind of thing you often draw so if you draw chibi, naturally they would ask for that
lament stump
How much friends do you have tf
Shik is jealous
hardy yew
its the same guy lmao they just wanted stuff for their server
im still waiting for the pay tho
dusky trail
not really, i have friends, just not one into art or even anime as much as me
did get a comm for chibi from a friend too, he try to ask for a girl from his workplace
she want some "K-pop chibi"
hardy yew
lament stump
Wait he wanted you to make irl person into a chibi?
dusky trail
why are you think it is a weird thing to see
hardy yew
i mean people do that but hopefully he gave reference and not that vague description
dusky trail
lament stump
They seem like they just waste my time
lament stump
I remember girls on tiktok were always getting wet ofr thoes koreans
dusky trail
until i start playing visual novel
dusky trail
aki just want to be hip with the kid
lament stump
during my highschool maybe
"mabye" sure, i can imagine you being that fire fan
I don't use it
Anymore
That's why i said i remember
dusky trail
no but i used to be back street boy's fan
lament stump
What's that
hardy yew
dusky trail
if you know that then just think back street boys is 1D before 1D even born
lusty breach
how long have u guys been practicing?
4 or 5 months now
lament stump
if you know that then just think back street boys is 1D before 1D even born
You seem like you still get all fuzzy inside thinking about that band
dusky trail
not really, i can't even listen to they song anymore
lament stump
4 or 5 months now
In this channel it's either that kr 10 yrs lol
dusky trail
it is one of those "why the heck did i into them back then again?"
dusky trail
just like how i actually hate armpit back in the day because of all those "smelly armpit" post in DA
lament stump
I think DA changed you guys talk shit about it but i never see any weird things there
dusky trail
just go around various group and you can see plenty
onyx breach
Its trash
lament stump
No idea but I'll start them requests when i finish hu tao
Gotta grow that da ufufufu
hardy yew
imo, personally never used da but i think the community is just a bit mixed
dusky trail
for some reason, western artist really into those smelly fetish
sometime combine it with bondage and tickle fetish
onyx breach
Not to mention the site is littered with ||furries ||
dusky trail
like if we compare bondage, western mostly just a simple tied to a pole scene
while jap just do all kind of different knots
lament stump
You guys just don't like da cuz it looks more cool then pixiv on the outside
craggy smelt
Just a question: would you prefer digital or drawing?
hardy yew
imo da site layout sucks
lament stump
Everyone here does digital
dusky trail
it mostly depend on the style
hardy yew
onyx breach
Digital art
dusky trail
i use more clean style so naturally i lean to digital more
hardy yew
i also prefer digital
lament stump
Too clean
hardy yew
i dont have to spend money on supplies for digital
craggy smelt
I wanna learn digital but I have a hard time using it because my hand is kinda shakey when I do digital
hardy yew
hardy yew
there is stabilizers in apps
onyx breach
Yup
craggy smelt
there is stabilizers in apps
I dont think ibis has that
hardy yew
it does
dusky trail
well save up and invest in a cheap tablet i guess
lament stump
If you don't well good luck
hardy yew
I dont think ibis has that
personally never used this app but i hve it for quickly editing stuff
craggy smelt
I did not know that existed
lament stump
personally never used this app but i hve it for quickly editing stuff
Procreate fan
Ew
hardy yew
Procreate fan
sorry im not rich enough for csp 
onyx breach
Ugh phone again? You guys love torturing yourself in mobile ibis
lament stump
I get csp for 4.5 bucks a month lol
dusky trail
just pirate SAI
craggy smelt
Ugh phone again? You guys love torturing yourself in mobile ibis
I also use phone
craggy smelt
Its painfull
lusty breach
I prefer medibang than ibis
lament stump
Yea you can pirate csp as well
onyx breach
How about pc? 😑
craggy smelt
How about pc? 😑
I dont have a tablet
dusky trail
well even with phone, i just use my pinky to draw
lament stump
i dont think you can do that on ios
You dumbo
Why buy a stupid iphone
IPhone is the worst thing you can do to your self
lusty breach
I have an apple :)
lament stump
It's good but if you compare it to anything else, for that money everything beats it
lusty breach
Macbook air 2015 13"
hardy yew
not really?
craggy smelt
lament stump
But main reason of it being sucky is you can't pirate
I had do shame you
I phone is overpriced
lament stump
So?
craggy smelt
I use samsung
lament stump
That's the same shit
craggy smelt
lament stump
Same shity company that steals your money
dusky trail
ppl have a lot of fun personification Siri when she pop up
craggy smelt
a phone version of cortana
hardy yew
aki telling me i can get the same stuff without wasting my money: ok where can i get a good pc, a good tablet and a pretty decent pen for less than $900
craggy smelt
aki telling me i can get the same stuff without wasting my money: ok where can i...
2nd hand
dusky trail
aki telling me i can get the same stuff without wasting my money: ok where can i...
just go to Aki's house and take them
craggy smelt
~~just go to Aki's house and take them~~
or that
dusky trail
just leave $10 on his table
hardy yew
lmao
craggy smelt
or make a card saying thanks
lusty breach
~~just go to Aki's house and take them~~
does aki have those
lament stump
aki telling me i can get the same stuff without wasting my money: ok where can i...
You rly said and a pen
You see whst they did to you?
They sold you a bloody pen
hardy yew
its a good pen
lament stump
For 100 bucks
hardy yew
itll never break so i mean 
lament stump
Instead of giving it to you for free
onyx breach
Ye coz scamapple sells their own pen separately and it costs an arm n a leg 😂
lament stump
They sold you a oen
hardy yew
not like i can just go back and refund, i bought everything last year with saved money
and i have no pc to work with so
lament stump
Getting a kamvas 16 for 350 bucks and some ok pc is less then 900
onyx breach
Its ridiculous
lament stump
You are going to have a ipad while i for 650 less got a better drawing device
lament stump
You said you paid 900
Could've bought a good screen tabket for 350 and use everything else for a ok oc
Pc
dusky trail
i just used my brother second hand laptop then bought myself a cheap tablet
dusky trail
how heavy you think they are?
lament stump
I'm all for doing that bud it saddens me to see someone waisting their money
hardy yew
they dont look small
lament stump
On iPhone
hardy yew
my guy i dont have iphone
dusky trail
it just around the size of an ipad
dusky trail
well depend on the version
lament stump
Sold it
hardy yew
also another point: i cant justify buying a $350 drawing tablet to my parents
lament stump
Even Samsung gives their costumers a pen
lament stump
also another point: i cant justify buying a $350 drawing tablet to my parents
How did you justify 900 one
lusty breach
So bright
lament stump
Use paper nop?
hardy yew
i never said the word drawing, because my parents have starving artist stereotype
lament stump
Well, save money from comms sell that stupid shit and buy a digital art set up is my recommendation
lament stump
I got 350 dollars tablet bought
You got 900 one
I got my pc 7 yrs ago
I'm not the rich spoiled kid here
hardy yew
i used my own money?
lament stump
Why did justify it to yiur parents?
Do they bot let you use your own money
On whatever you want?
lament stump
I don't get it
hardy yew
well taking out of college fund is a risky thing because i might need it in the future
lament stump
Anyway i don't need to get it I'm just saying ipad stupid choice
lament stump
Sure
onyx breach
-)
dusky trail
unless you have overwhelm confident with it, you don't just charge right in one thing after all
onyx breach
Hmm my requests are slowly heading to the dead demographic
hardy yew
lament stump
Hmm my requests are slowly heading to the dead demographic
Pog
onyx breach
Hey there
dusky trail
you don't have to keep the suspense, just ask away
onyx breach
Rough sketch for bg, j feel like just throwing whatever things that can be excused here 
onyx breach
She yet to make the swing tho
dusky trail
=3=
waxen sleet
you don't have to keep the suspense, just ask away
Oh checked just now, I was doing some work since seemed dead chat here
so this is my question
I wanted to know, what do you call it when you make a design or like an internet persona for someone commercially, like what chachagoma did for mafumafu and his art and design, he uses it everywhere and it's basically his identity, what is the terminology
dusky trail
why not just simple call it OC
onyx breach
Ye youre basically just drawing their oc
waxen sleet
oke
dusky trail
OC,avatar, persona, i don't think you need any fancy term for it
lament stump
A very rough sketch of what i want the face gesture for my tao tao to be
And i realised this before but im certain now
I have a bif problem drawing mouths
Anime or real
dusky trail
they are so square that all i think of is the classic manga style
onyx breach
"-")
dusky trail
also the main thing separated anime mouth to real mouth is just you want to draw huge lips or not
while anime style can just use shade or color for the lip to make it looks soft
lone wagon
I haven't done any art for a week now.
I feel like a traitor
Ive been too busy! I have good excuses, but I've totally become rusty
dusky trail
you could still get a sketch book, looking at random people on the street, draw them while grinning like a maniac so they thought you gonna do something weird
lone wagon
Scared to draw now, i can already feel it crying
dusky trail
dusky trail
well stuff like that is why i always make sure to draw even if i not in the mood for it
like just simple color some manga page for fun
dusky trail
for me at least, i would go for skeleton
craggy smelt
ok
dusky trail
you don't worry about draw detail on muscle yet after all
dusky trail
tsk tsk, but that is the charm of it, the way you can make the waist look more attractive
to give the waist a soft yet also hard feel
while also use to create the feel of body twisting
lament stump
Lately been too bisy to even do sketches in a book
Lies
5min of our conversation could've been used to draw
There is always time to find for art
dusky trail
like here with how you can see the shade on her body with to make her waist look more tone
also rather weird of discord again to block the main pic even though it would look a more normal yet i have to zoom in this close for it to go through
lament stump
Shik
Send a page of one of your old sketch books
I know you didn't throw them away
Don't lie!
dusky trail
i didn't, i already burn them away along with your memory
but joke aside, i actually have no clue where it is
kinda put it away somewhere since i start draw digital
so i've not seen it for over 10 years
dusky trail
not really
i'm the type only keep thing i think useful
heck, i don't even keep school's album
i usually keep my thing neatly so i know where i put thing when i need it so stuff that i don't see as useful anymore, i usually throw it away or store it somewhere and forgot about it
craggy smelt
I found a sketch pad that I had 2 years ago
lone wagon
heck, i don't even keep school's album
People keep those?
I don't keep anything either
I ripped up all my old school stuff ans shredded them because i thought it was fun
dusky trail
see Aki, it is totally normal to get rig of anything related to you so you police won't be able to track you down
lone wagon
You're worried about the police? Wth did you do in school that you're worried police would find you?
Was your art that bad that its illegal?
dusky trail
craggy smelt
Was your art that bad that its illegal?
maybe the art was too great
too powerful to exist
lone wagon
If it was great, you'd be keeping it locked up in high security
But shik doesn't even care for it
craggy smelt
maybe ppl get rid of the embarising old art they made
dusky trail
but well, my past criminal aside, i don't show my draw at school much anyway
not many ppl really get anime style after all
so they just either think it as "cartoon" style or just say it is great then that about it
onyx breach
i was opposite, but since i didnt rly draw anime back then...more on wild animals my classmates would have me draw tigers, snakes etc in their wrists.
lone wagon
maybe ppl get rid of the embarising old art they made
I do that for sure, im guilty of this.
craggy smelt
back then I drew mythical creatures and stuff
onyx breach
most girl classmates would ask for cats, rabbits or unicorns
craggy smelt
I liked drawing dragons
lone wagon
I had a dragon phase also
I still like dragons. That's why my oc yui is a dragon
Dragon anime girl
craggy smelt
onyx breach
i would use their own pens coz if i used mine, they wont even last a week
craggy smelt
I sometimes drew leviathans aswell
lone wagon
I joined amino back then and did a bit of paper drawings too
But back then i did a lot of Zelda fanart
onyx breach
maybe i can dig an old drawing from fb
dusky trail
meanwhile DA banned me so i lost a lot of stuff, move to tumblr and then that too also....
dusky trail
if i draw sooner, i probably would draw a lot of To-love-Ru art too
it already filled with easy doujin plot for you to use after all
dusky trail
but since i mainly focus on DA and RWBY is in it hype after the tease trailer
i mostly focus on that
onyx breach
wasnt expecting to find one of my earliest commish as well 😮
this looks stupid
iirc the desc for this was to make kurumi younger and make her wear a yukata
onyx breach
ye its nostalgic
frank sundial
when did you start doing commissions?
like when you decide to make money from your works
for the first time
your level of detail back then is still as impressive as it is today
onyx breach
🤔 it wasnt even a serious one, i just kept posting my works on an art ch and then a guy was like this is cute, how much would it be to have you create one for me? just kidding
i was like eh i think im not ready yet..mentally
he was like nvm, lets make it happen
frank sundial
especially when you draw frilly dresses and that one pic full of flowers