#art-discussion-and-wip
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@Hanami
I don’t even wanna bother on redoing the lineart
@lone wagon
JUST MAKE THE KINE THICKER
Ty
Hanami
Tell her
That
Thoes lines
Gotta be thicker
should I finish eula
Send wip
Sendagain
Good gilr
sighs
Gilr
Did I get it?
Gender
WTF
I’m hottie man yena btw
I’m catfishing someone
It’s a different acc
Note to Senseis: please roast my coloring on this piece, thank you very much :D
@fiery lantern
That eula sucks
she has no hair
Jk she looks good but GUYS LINE ART IS UGLY EHEN EVERY LINE IS THE SAME THICKNESS
@dusky trail TELL THEM
I haven’t finished
🙁🙁
FOCUS!!!
Fuck coloring if the lines look boring
why not just draw a big curve on the hair, then use erase to chop some part off
Where can we see the full splash art of valks?
SHIKNI-SENSEI MY SAVIORR
then there you go, similar enough high light
snaky
but then Seele and “Seele’s” hair highlights would be different :”D
Thanks
that is why you use big enough curve so you can keep on shaping it until it looks similar
naruhodo
also, can the oh great shikni-sensei bestow advice upon this puny mortal on how to color the devilish clothing folds? specifically Seele’s btw
her left or our left
cause her hair to look bigger than Vel

the blue thing part on her right
ignore the feet please
just do it likes Vel there
will do
or make Vel as thick as Sel
I’ll just do the former
otherwise one of them will look like they have bigger head
also about this
are you talking about her boob or her waist
@dusky trail send the link ti her
busy playing Genshin right now, you do it
You think i know how to find it
No. I don't
That's like iron or something right?
clothing folds
The fuck
not the chains and stuff
If we lookin just at clothe i don't think there shoukd be any folds there
you see
her leg’s raised up
there your under boob
Thankyou
thank you for the reference
Not like that up thoooo
Imo there ain't gonna be that much folds here
are you saying her boobs are small~
have you even saw her in game model or something
show him your boobs, Shii
right.. I forgot you don’t play the game

ahhh
Boat
as the waist bind will hold the part of the clothe, so naturally the fold will be on the side as you twist your body around
so ya, just put in some / / / line there
but what would happen on the skirt where one of her legs are up
Vel's left leg look way too short compare to her right btw
it got covered by the balloon :”D
well when the leg raise up, the skirt will drop down by the base which cause the fold there
o
thank you for the references 
because my style of color is the way it exciting me
mhm
Really?
can’t just force someone to use a different art style
people draw what they want to see, most of the time
It's the one that excites you more then any other style
you don't need overly shading to make it looks good
This doesn't look like your style
That either
and this kind of hard pen shading can make the skin look even more fun to stare at
that’s why they develop their own art style, because they take stuff from different art styles that they admire and want to mimic/copy
I mean if you like your style and you don't care about impressing ppl who aren't like you then okay
please don’t tell me that’s a fricking stigmata
It's not chill
yes
the art looks clean as heck wtf
I kinda wonder how do they do those smooth curvy lines when it comes to coloring
like the soles of her feet for example
ig they abuse the bucket tool or something
well ya, draw a curvy line then just dump bucket onto it
wow so handy
or you can just draw an arc there
then use erase to shape it
this kind of style is popular in anime and a lot of game because of how fast it can shade after all
but of course, there are artist also just like that style of coloring
like Shimada, the artist of Strike Witches
oooo
sure
Dis
that is what everyone point to when they got caught liking the loli
Me not a lolicon
Also where is hamami thes days
there even Supernew from Girl Frontline
Haven't seen to color noob in a while :(
says by someone who also can’t color as kami as the senseis
Can’tColorGang
because that is the way you draw attention to the skin
yuh
composition
Hi sel o////
when you have other part with more stand out color and there just a piece of white skin there, your eyes will naturally draw to it like you want to lick it
like refining and making a certain part look more attractive
or something
so that your eyes focus on that spot after taking a quick glance
Naoki-sensei made a vid about that
pain
what else do I say lol
guess I won’t see Aki’s fall due to their pride
hi
since Shii and Delay both denied him, now Aki is after Sel huh?
Now I'm undied


I JUST
what
Not saying hi back is y'know
what, is this your first time getting ignored? 
Why did this turn into me begging for attention
WHEN DID I BEG FOR ATTENTION
have a fun gaming session shikni-sensei o/

see you shik
Bye.
Im done with mermaid mobius
I like the design but i think it looks too similar to her base skin

could just change her crown into a jelly hat or something similar to a shell
or put the shell as the tip of her long thingy behind her too
Good idea yeah
actually change the crown into a coral may sound fun too
make it an urchin
add a bg mayb 
color the lineart maybe
add more tentacle maybe
well at least it also fit her lightning elemental too
jelly hat? touhou mobius?
Tbh it looks like a great concept art
Like something that if put more work into it it would be in the game
it looks like Kokomie but better
just sharing another art once again, an old one~ please bear with the arms
I just cheated my way tru a whole ass test
I'm proud
Of how my skills have improved

did she snapped so hard her middle finger completely broken?

as an asian im not proud
you disappointment
Aki got disowned again
as another Asian
I agree with candz

hmm
Making some progress...
👍
for next year halloween
OC: Herrscher of Starlight, Veliza.
Artificial Herrscher born from experimentation on tarantulas.
since there just not much feature of her that feel Honkai-ish, she just look like a random OC that can fit anywhere
after all, we all know Herrsh has stupidly long hair
can i post here other drawings that are not about honkai impact ?
and btw it looks great
yes
ok thanks bc i really need help, i'm not sure what i'm doing
Thanks!
And I didn't want to add to many details to such a busy body. Lots happening, so some simplistic details are enough. Maybe should add some honkai lines.
it's as you want to do it
well
here's what i'm doing rn and i need some advices
o just realised i didn't finished the hair
what style are you going for, chibi-esque, anime, anime head with a realistic body?
well that's the problem, but i think is more anime
so the head is maybe a little to big
well unless you want to go for more serious style, then the draw is simple enough to pass
alright, I won't comment on head size since that more stylistic. Make the facial features smaller, eyes should have an eyes width of space between them, lengthen the pelvis, and fingers are naturally different lengths so make the middle finger longer than the index and make the pinkie finger shorter than the ring finger
overall its looking good
her left arm also rather odd
since you can see a part of the shoulder there, that mean she just bend and not fully extend her arm
i tried to hide it ^^' because i still have problems with proportions
like her arm is doing this _ instead of / or --
then you should put the hand more in line with the shoulder
okay, i'll try to do what you two said
and maybe title the hand to the right a bit to make it less stiff
while you can ignore the big head, the neck could be a bit smaller so it won't fight with the body shape
oka
i don't understand the part for the eyes
people naturally have an eyes width of space between both eyes. So take one of the drawn eyes and make sure that the space between them is the same as that eye
like that ? (sorry my english is not perfect so i don't understand everything)
i took the measurement of your eyes and put them in the center. the eyes should be on either side of the red line so you should spread them out. Make them smaller to fit the head more and take the new measurement and put it as i did to get the right spacing for them
i tried what you said for the eye but i looked weird for me so i put it a little bit on the right
that mouth is very big
idk if it’s purposeful since it takes up way more than usual anime proportioned mouths
And in comparison to the rest of the teeth, the fangs are thin
She looks like she can bite my head off in 1 bite if she wanted to
chomp
nom
worked on this a bit more
oooooo
while i did seen plenty of worst shoes but that one certainly look like it will be really stressful for the feet
The 1st woman who invented the first ever heels probably want something that can make women look taller than men
well that type of annoying shoes sometime also mean to train your posture
they are not easy to walk in after all
high heels were actually made for men originally
good thing we dropped those things coz i'd kill myself
fantasy rpg clothes are too complex
they were dropped because women picked them up
best thing that ever happened
well while high heel is a pain, i personally like walking on tip toes
i enjoy high heels and properly fit shoes are comfortable
it makes your step cause less sound but there is a fun way to make your legs feel longer
some heels are quiet as normal shoes
oh
they indeed are
yep I don’t think they’re coming back 😭
WHAT
any problem? yes its shibi 
the tied bit should be on the other side but besides that its looking fine
i just flipped the crown
because it looks weird in this way
;p
i prefer it on the left, otherwise it looks off to me
why not just flip the whole draw then
also, since you made the choker like that, she looks like discount Doraemon

i cant flip the whole drawing because the person commissioning wants her facing the right 
we dont talk about my art choices 
just flip him then

and since you made the hair rather small compare to the head, it made her face really bloated
even shiibi's style still need a more balance head


guess ill redo the hairs then
im not really sure how to make the hairs bigger while not making it too big for emote space

having trouble with left part mostly
does it look better after green line
theres barely any difference because i suck
it still look flat so ya
how to unflat 

so you can balance out the bang and the face
then just put another circle for the hair
i was gonna do the chubby chibi thing but when i tried to implement it, it looks deform

if you want to go for chubby one then you need to make the facial feature small
to make the face feel bigger
Woah that' so cool aaaaa
How much time did you spend on this?
I don't remember, made this back in 2018 lol
right below the bow thing of the strap
well a stretch S shape always good
the upward part would point to the shoulder
so your collarbone kinda dig in her shoulder there
Its beutiful
thanks user kylie
give her a wig
did you just draw the body without even think who it gonna be...?
Yeah
=3=
Now idk what should i do
just pick a fav char then draw them
🤤🤤
yeah i gave up
its ok to trace over a real model right? id never trace over art but like...real people is ok right?

Miaw
as long as you dont claim the drawing as your own, tracing is nc if you're trying to reverse engineer what they did in a piece buyt ultimately, it all comes down to practicing and applying the things you learned from your studies
thats awesome to know, thank you very much

lul this balloon w
the shade just look like it got hit by something right there
try googling a baloon so you can see how it bounces off light
I hate it how it keeps giving me those simple pictures and not the real ones :"D
This is fine as well coz it matches your shading technique rn which is cell shading
pain peko
so it's counted as cell shading huh, hope I can improve on coloring so it's not cell shading in the future 
time to develop your own shading style and name is Shiiding
shedding
mornin ppl
treace....
😭
even for a trace, his head look rather square-ish
shikni-sensei...
Good morning yena
good morning
it’s almost midnight
so almost morning
eisasafaitlormambtwaiitmmtsmfswiitianum
Yee

the bunny girls from Blue Archive sure became super popular nowaday
🤤🤤
@fiery lantern
i think ppl are just naturally drawn to a bunny costume
not me tho stay safe 😜
well the dark skin girl always been rather popular anyway
so giving her bunny suit seem to push that up even higher
the artist, Mx2j has interesting hair style too
rather hard to see anyone with bright color hair like that but hey~
so just make the head bigger?
make the body seem stiff just feel more like a male body
i already made the head more big
and i think i'll keep the head
how tf
do i make the body curvy
what is it with you and pointy raised shoulders
GUYS
Also the waist should be a bit higher
IT'S JUST TO MAKE HER DESIGN
then use a base?? wouldn’t that be faster
where find base
didn't i throw you the base last time =3=
well that's your base, i would lose my dignity if i used that
deviantart has a ton
then just throw your dignity away
as for how to make her body more curvy, just draw a hourglass shape
the hip could always use more meat
that way you also get more room to draw the leg
those are really small feet
oh
Also what’s the 20 and 40 in the chart
ty
so um
witch eye better?
here it is with hair
was trying to go for crazy girl but idk anymore
making a caracter with 2 totally different eyes?!?!?!?
jk no
it is your OC, just pick whichever you like
well idk
ig her right is crazy
sitch would suit this mouth hm
ye mouth a lil deformed but yknow
um yuno
how does multiply blend work
just put a multiply layer on top then try to throw some color at it
i mean you just go and test it out =3=

but you usually use lower value color for it
What should I add?
a background, ba dum
I am trying but idk what t9o add
when in doubt, just throw random object into it
you can throw Liliy's severed head in the pumpkin jar for fun
Rozaliya plushy, random carbage, gem
you know, typical Halloween background stuff
if you want it, you can even make her candles thingy light up the background
lmao
i do like the Halloween night backgruond though
maybe can incorporate that with the halloween roza
then single color background with halloween theme's pattern
show me some ref
you are not Hanami, throw some color in there
if anyone has better idea on what she should wear down there send ref
also hair i gotta find better hair before i start colors
cuz she ain't crazy girl any more
i want a simple cute one
A cute ghost?
Hey my rozaliya has colour!
since it is halloween theme, you can use pumpkin color for the background
Wdym?
looks too simple
Simple not always bad
ye sure
Aki just want to flexing his coloring skill
ye my coloring skill isssssss
I cant colour in general so i am starting simple
Are you sayinf you can do better aki with the hair?

yes
Go on then
look like she dip her hair in dye and now can't get it off
everything else tho
ok
anyways here is she, can't be bothered to make her hair more flowy rn
I'll do it in line art
Idk what kind of style you're going dor this. Oily hair?
ay
1st ever
cut me some slack
dis one was good
and this one was so fucking weird cuz of the light source
it looks like Eula wearing a lego set for hair
do you want me to put a background color there to make it even harder for you to use the base layer?
it is pretty normal for char solo art to not have background
so it easier to add stuff in later
if the feeling of try to cut the char out of the background sound fun to you, then go ahead and merge it with one
no pelvic curtain, me sad
Ehh
have i fixed the flat 
i mean its not for me
for my personal art i dont like to draw chibi

look festive enough
the bg wasn't as hard as i hough. Well i guess it's still simple
it would add more hair on the right
right now, it looks like she is balding so she just try to covered her bald spot by her long bang
i mean that thing
the crystal thingy on her choke should be more on the right
mean like so
since her body seem to lean to the side there
the choker shouldn't be in middle of the body
i already move the thing on that pic
you put the choker in the middle of the body while it should be slightly on the right
the choker itself is fine, the position you placed it is the problem
basic phisycs even apply to chibis huh
yes
she never says your welcome :/
line art done but you can't even see it cuz shik and her stupid no bg
then why not just trace the skin part...
or, even simpler
put your thing in different layer so it will be on top of the base
aki out here making his oc already and me with an oc design that i havent managed to finish after 2 months
so you just have to put something on the top of the base
naw dont worry
my friend made my oc concept art for me when i didnt do art and i never drew the oc

ive just given up on it, i already have the base colors and everything
love that
🤝
cuz mine is simple af
mabye i should define her boobs a bit
ye it was supposted to be crazy girl, that's why mouth weird
i could just do 2 lines for mouth and make it look normal but
that mouth took timee
shik what are you hmming about
should i rly do all 3 for someone this simple?
still higher
and absolutely no chest at all
She’s flatter than fu hua
okay but i don't need crits, this was low effort cuz i just wanted to get her design down
ik anatomy and stuff sucks
but I'll worry about that when i draw her in an actuall pose
sure
sorry if im interrupting but are there any issues with the anatomy/proportions?
If you’re looking at design only then the one thing I think is odd is how this works without choking her or something
neck seem rather short and his hip rather big
hips a tad too wide and the chest is asymmetrical
neck looks fine to me bc it’s angled
How does it connect to the rest of the top
got it 👍
but Sel~ what if he just doing the "bouncing chest muscle" thing
ask her
does it change if hes sitting down? or are the hips still too wide
sit down and see
it doesn't seem to work as a chocker but more like it connect to the back of her shirt
ye
the hip won't change much, right now, your hip look too wide and round
like it is one of those child-bearing hip
i get what you mean
am i missing anything before i move on to line
passable
then time to make it even sharper
that
is very fair
and you had a base from shik
Ye
😂
Don't overthink your oc if you are not creative
She looks like a mango
ive sent it here before then i gave up on it
more like one of those pre-set mob character you see in 3D anime
i didnt even lineart the back yet
How is brown hair a mango
Bullys
yeah her face has some issues
she probably walking around somewhere you can't see
I JUST GOT THE DESIGN
There was no effort into making her look normal
Her anatomy look normal*
Proportions or what you wanna call it
you should probably spend some time on that
I'll do them things when i start drawing a normal illustration
a character can have an amazing design and such, but if the face doesnt look right
it'll ruin it all
but since she is super simple anyway, why do you even need the base...
Ofc I'll spend time on making my caracter normal i alway did that, if i didn't i wouldn't be in this chat
Cuz i didn't know how she gonna look so i layed down some stuff and yea..
She may be simple but i can make her look cute
hah cute, good joke
I SAID
no offense
Ahh...
i mean.. the 3 draw you made so far are mostly depress girls..
dont think you said that
She will be normal guys
you literally want to make Eula want to jump off the cliff
i thought you said you wanted her to be crazy
and then you do so with Mobius
and i said I'm into broken girls
BUT THAG DOESN'T MEAN
My style gonna be broken girls
fair enough
Can't she be cute and sad?
there's an aesthetic for that so sure
who is sad?
their oc
that just sound like you bullying someone because her crying face is cute

dont shame sadists
Alr I'll try to find a pose ref and I'll do thr thing tomorrow
i press enter too soon mb
I got tripped out by that sail
how's this? i tried to slim down the waist a bit
same lol
I was like tf
that tripped me up
D: mbmb
no its good dw
His pic turned into a girl that shik sent lol
with the way the chair make him looks like he sitting lean to the side
He looks like a fuck boy
the hip feels rather off center to the chair
I don't like fuck boys they weird
no need to be mean aki
says drawing looks like a fuckboy -> proceeds to say fuckboys are weird
goal achieved 👍
maybe thats what they were going for
its alright if i want it to be that way right?
so i would push the back of the chair to the left more
Ye maybe and i said it cuz it's what it looks lije
well sure but then the hip would need to be lean to the center of the chair too
unless you want him to completely sit to one side until the chair's leg broke
getting vergil vibes
This isn't what i meant by sad and cute
Lolis are not thag cute
now im debating making this vergil LMAO
Something like a girl in rain that looks sad but isn't crying while she has a design that makes her cute
so you want to trick the girl so she gave up her house and now she has to live outside even though it is raining
got it
now he looks like even more of a fuckboy
Sad day dreaming in a Caffè while it's raining
so you want to stood up a girl after asking her on the date and never come to the caffe, got it
Asking girls out is hard
maybe draw her enjoying a nice latte in the cafe
currently listening to this as I do hw
That caffe sucks skih
at least he give a good ref for a pose you can draw closely to
but something with good lighting like the one I gave
I was thinking like a half body shot with her hand holding her head
ah like resting her head on her hand
so you want to ditch her after order so many thing and now she holding her head after look at the bill
got it
While looking out of a window, ofc i won't do this oart cuz drawing a window is probably hell on earth
Not that holding shik
Is it called bra i have no idea lol
The thing that holds booba
why does this search not work tf
have you tried using the "-" operator?
or put "head resting on hand"
chin resting on head also works
Thanks
thank you
at least she knows what is she doing with the lines
cant tell if this is an insult to me or not 
it wasn't meant to be
but now that you said it yea
you have no idea either
just watch how to do line art on yt
even making random lines thicker and thiner then otheres is better then everything with same thickness
i sketch with the same line size
plus its chibi so idc

when i go to line it i change it
Aki just jealous 
I watched 1 video from naoki saito. I realised i was doing the lineart wrong so i changed it.
i mean
there really is no way to do lineart wrong
lineart can be messy and pleasing at the same time
I haven't watched any speed paints in a while though. Atm i am just downloading a lot of references and analysing it.
No i mean i didnt have an appealing lineart so i changed it to make it more appealing
oh ic ic
maybe i should watch this legendary japanese man you speak of
sad im at work right now

Ans i dont think im godly. I still see a lot of fault with my lineart.
its godly for someone who is a beginner like me
like you just started not too long ago
improvement go brrr

You're too kind. XD
I still think I have a lot to do, I am still nowhere to where i want to be. So I'll keep on trying until i get there.
well
that's just a stylistic choice
i've seen plenty of artists who don't use varying lines and their art still looks really pleasing
again, there is no wrong or right way to do lineart

i think most ppl can agree that diff in size of lines is better
not better
looks better
you can do what you want in art for sure
^
its just preference tbh. I prefer incredibly thin and even lines
i've seen plenty of artists who can convey depth and have a focal point without varying lines due to their use of color and shading
do i personally use varying lines? yeah, but that's because of how i do lineart in the first place
I never use varying line width. Its all the same.
i commonly draw "lineart" on the same layer as my sketch
and by that i mean i clean up the lines and such
I use it because the style i draw usually looks better with variety in line thickness
exactly
the artists we take inspiration from can influence how we draw
if we take inspiration from artists with varying lines, then we might incorporate that when we draw something ourselves
It improves my style personally and even artists with very different style uses different thickness. Its jist something ive personally analysed and decided to incorporate it into my own art after watching naoki saito and gone and look at different art that i like.
mhm
Two very different styles
But whwn you imagine it without colours
You can tlel theyve alao used different thickness in lines
mhm
i always wanted to see what anime boobs look like without underboob shadow
guess i gotta test it my self aka use base colors on my caracter lol
but i want to see what it looks like with everything else shaded
This one focuses on colour but you can still see the different thickness in lines
thick
it just looks flat if you do it that way
ye i can imagine
take anime line art with a grain of salt when looking at paintings. A lot of artists that have the look of line art don't actually use it. Its added in near the end for the aesthetic
Me too, ive seen so many speedpaint ans they add it in the beginning. Some evwn add it in their sketch xD
I'm not saying all I'm saying artists do that. Its not something to argue and you can't really know without seeing them paint
lineart is used widely as either some form of sketch or something to define the shapes before they paint over it
hanami send me just 1 speedpaint so i get them recommended more often i gotta start watcing em
Obviously you can tweak it later on but a lot so it in the lineart process
once you get skilled enough you don't need sketches or lineart, plenty of artists do that. Its why I said don't look at all art and think its done the exact same way between all artists because its not
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