art-discussion-and-wip

[lament stump]

the legs are way too small

i don't get it

[dusky trail]

maybe you have baby feet fetish all along

[lament stump]

cmon this isn't sooooo badddd

it could also look okay

[dusky trail]

but ignore the pathetic feet, those calf do need to be longer

as i said before, those usually need to be as long or longer than the thigh

[lament stump]

are thighs okey size?

[dusky trail]

too small if you compare to how big her torso look

just magic wand the whole legs and increase the size, should work

[lament stump]

i don't sense if that good now

[dusky trail]

well it is passable

feet still too short and small though

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783078378872897608/892131246493286480/Yae_Sakura_-_Qipao_T.png

just look at how long her feet there

[lament stump]

ai chan is ...

um well a cool thing is that mobius's dress covers the feet

[dusky trail]

=3=

[lament stump]

but again I assume this pose not gonna work on her

[dusky trail]

not really, just simple push the left leg closer to the right

just test it out by draw a sketch of her outfit on top

and now i gonna go take a nap

Silver can take over

[potent mason]

07

[lament stump]

idk what 07 means but

this good?

don't look at how legs are shaped

her stupid dress gonna fix it

[potent mason]

theres your answer

[lament stump]

um

ok

but

[potent mason]

make it more longer, the lower part

[lament stump]

^

lower part of head?

[potent mason]

Legs

[lament stump]

both legs?

[potent mason]

Yes

[lament stump]

tell me that snake doesn't look cute

okay I'll go over the sketch once again and tomorrow I'll do the outfit

[potent mason]

More

[lament stump]

MORE?

[potent mason]

Around this long

[lament stump]

if you say so

k i think it's that long

[potent mason]

No, more

[lament stump]

BRO

HOW MORE

[potent mason]

Ill say it when you got the length correct

[lament stump]

now?

[whole cloak]

They have no waist

And the armpit is fat

[potent mason]

Don't make a 1 mm change, make it big

[whole cloak]

Also thin calves

[lament stump]

now?

[whole cloak]

longer

[lament stump]

I MADE IT BIGGER NOW

[potent mason]

More

[whole cloak]

Thinner torso too

f

[potent mason]

not big enough, like i said dont make a tiny change

[whole cloak]

Also move the legs up the torso isn’t that long

[potent mason]

make it noticeable

[whole cloak]

She’s in a child body so torso should be smaller

calves also aren’t flat, they have curve

[potent mason]

we are still focusing on correcting the legs, sel

we're gonna slowly tackle them

[whole cloak]

ah

[potent mason]

yes

[lament stump]

now they are so thin but okey i can fix it

[potent mason]

now create the bump at the back the leg

[lament stump]

okay

[whole cloak]

Shorter torso

Keep going

[lament stump]

okay i made the curve

now for the torso......

[whole cloak]

Yes that’s good

[lament stump]

okay so you said armpit is stupid and what else

[whole cloak]

Ok now for the waist

we’re going bottom up I assume?

[potent mason]

Yes

[lament stump]

no idea what that is but yes

oh bottom mistakes

[whole cloak]

try to flip the canvas actually if you haven’t

[lament stump]

oh no

I'm scared now

not as bad as i toughtttttt

[whole cloak]

ok draw a ribcage

Just a vague shape

basically break the torso into 2 parts

[whole cloak]

yes

Now thin the waist, she’s rather skinny

[whole cloak]

ok that’s better

[lament stump]

should i make that arm that's up more skinny

[whole cloak]

No just the armpit

like
can I redline

[lament stump]

yes pls

[whole cloak]

It’s sort of unclear how to say

[lament stump]

don't even ask me that at this point

[whole cloak]

like this sort of

[lament stump]

ty master

[whole cloak]

think of the deltoid/shoulder muscle works like a lump of stiff fat on top of a thin arm

it’s not very good
silver come help

[lament stump]

very interesting

it's amazing

[whole cloak]

whether you want to make the muscle obvious or not is up to you

but the point is like a small curve up right there and a thin elbow

[lament stump]

all the tehnicall stuff aside, does the pose look like she's falling

shikni said it could be her falling

[whole cloak]

if you think about it
fat people irl might have “baggy” arms, but that’s in the triceps area and not the armpit

[lament stump]

but i don't see it

[whole cloak]

not right now? at least to me
but her left arm rn is confusing so maybe

[lament stump]

it's inverted

so um

left is on on top or bottom?

[whole cloak]

oh uh

The bottom arm

Not the raised one

depending how you pose that and if it’s resting on anything she might look like she’s falling over

[lament stump]

mabye i can make her sit on her thing

that suit case

[whole cloak]

sitting on the suitcase would still have her falling off the suitcase

Like the bottom arm should be brought to the front and resting on something if she’s balanced

[lament stump]

ah...

[whole cloak]

F

[lament stump]

well if i do like a dark bg with them shite lines

she might look like falling

[whole cloak]

A dark bg as in a solid bg or as in the environment she’s in is dark

[lament stump]

like not a black wall but like a black space that's not fully black

[whole cloak]

that affects shading too

I can’t help you on shading or making stuff blend into an environment I’m not good at it

ah gtg
someone else come help

[lament stump]

thanks for all the helpppppp

bye bye

[hardy yew]

[lament stump]

gonna leave it here for the day

[fierce snow]

you made her arm too muscly now

she could totally beat mei at armwrestling

[whole cloak]

it’s the bottom half of the arm that bulges too much

And it gets thin at the elbow and on

[lament stump]

will fix tomorrow

[hasty gate]

Fire tuna in forza

[ocean flower]

Forza tuna horizon

[timid kestrel]

Woaw so cool

[hasty gate]

This is literally my first itasha decal on forza and I don't know if it looks good or bad

[potent mason]

calm bath scene 🙂

[lament stump]

When's the last time you drew a not naked woman

[lusty lion]

getting toxic with ai-chan can help you get muted again, just saying, don't do it

[lament stump]

She overdoing ittt

[proven nest]

does this look okay? im not sure how to make the hair on the left bottom like, flow.. outwards or inwards?

wait her eyes

AHH they suddenly look too straight and not in line

[lament stump]

Looks fine to me

[proven nest]

ah, the right eye. flipped looks too straight

[lament stump]

Chibi tho

[proven nest]

they are very cute

[grave nymph]

the hand itself looks too weird

[full solstice]

yeah its this finger especially

no finger bends like that

you'd have like 4 joints in your fingers

[proven nest]

yeahh.. you're right

[full solstice]

here i have a badly lined finger (im using a trackpad dont judge)

but this is around how it should be

the knuckles wouldnt be that prominent

and they should connect to the finger fairly smoothly

while the finger itself bends at like only 2 places

[proven nest]

okay! thank you for taking the time to show me

[full solstice]

np (but tbh its probably still a little off but its a good guideline, i think/hope)

[forest crystal]

@soft fjord bro you cant just post self inserts in #honkai-fan-art and then say its honkai art

[potent mason]

When I drew that movbius bodypillow

[grave nymph]

that's... quite long ago

[soft fjord]

It was a fan-made.

[potent mason]

Yeah, pretty normal for me to go months drawing just nude ppl

[grave nymph]

..of what?

I can't see any valkyrie themes

can't also see any mecha themes like the ones in game

also it doesn't look like wotan if you're aiming for it

[dusky trail]

if you really go for "she is falling" then that is not the pose you want to use for the arms....

that is just regular sitting pose

and ya, you do have odd habit of whenever we ask you to make something longer but you seem to hold back on it a lot

that probably why your arm and legs always look rather small compare to the body

[grave nymph]

mhm, this

[dusky trail]

then why didn't you stop him~~

[grave nymph]

sorry, was studying

plus that was like, in the middle of

5 am

[hasty gate]

More progress on our fire tuna in forza

[lament stump]

So um

What do i do with them amrs

Gotta still make the muscly one not muscly tho

[lament stump]

Cuz i want her to fall :)

[dusky trail]

outreach arms usually good for falling scene

and you also need to rotate her so she face upward if you want to make it like she is falling

[lament stump]

Okay finally you said something that's easy to do

You always like "just do" this and that, make it sound sooo easy

[dusky trail]

even that kind of "holding out hand to grab something" work

it is fine to use reference but you don't have to follow it too closely

be a little creative with how you use it

[dusky trail]

because i know using art term for newbie not really work much

[grave nymph]

o

[dusky trail]

well that is pretty much for anything actually

when someone too used to do something already and keep using pro term to teach newbie just gonna make you confuse

[lament stump]

I'm a newbie :(

[grave nymph]

same

[lament stump]

Anyway i can make ker reach for something or just put her hends like down like she has given up on life

[grave nymph]

lul what

[lament stump]

The 1st option is like she is is still fighting even tho she fallin but the 2nd one is she has given up

[dusky trail]

well Mobius is pretty much the "can't die even if you kill her"

of course it is your fanart so you can do whatever you want with it

though, keep that up and ppl may think your into broken girl

[lament stump]

I am somewhat into broken girl

[grave nymph]

[lone wagon]

I'm glad I woke up to this

[plain bane]

What happened here

[dusky trail]

just Aki revealed his fetish

[plain bane]

I guess that's good to know

[lament stump]

Well

Um...

I SAID KINDA

[lusty hazel]

denial

[lament stump]

Somewhat *

[hardy yew]

Do anyone have starchasm NYX pic for mobile wallpaper

[lament stump]

Thanks for changing the flow yuki

I owe you one

[hardy yew]

Nah I just really need one right now hehe

[dusky trail]

you can always cropping it~

[hardy yew]

Since lumi can't change wallpaper for lock screen ;-;

[hardy yew]

Kay XD

[lusty hazel]

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/91666666#big_0 lol does this help

[hardy yew]

Any one have this one tho?

(it's from lumi but can't change it to lock screen)

Rip

[hardy yew]

Damn that's good XD

[lusty hazel]

you want the full pic??

[plain bane]

I may have it, I'll look

May take a bot tho I'm on the bus

[dusky trail]

https://cdn.donmai.us/original/fb/da/__seele_vollerei_seele_and_seele_vollerei_honkai_and_1_more_drawn_by_sougishi_ego__fbda754aab57ed92807feb43e5206071.jpg

there also this

[lusty hazel]

thats nice thats nice

[hardy yew]

[lament stump]

Nice

[plain bane]

I don't have tye one you want sorry, I thought I did

[dusky trail]

and Yuki trusted you, you monster

[lament stump]

Why half her boob out tho

[plain bane]

[dusky trail]

because the same way Mihoyo design Ganyu

they just want someone with expose sideboob

[hardy yew]

Idk

[dusky trail]

also that one is by sougishi ego

the official artist of GGZ

[lament stump]

That's my middle name

[lusty hazel]

noticed that nyx's has different chest designs
which one do i use for fan art reference lol

[hardy yew]

Btw is starrail continue of APHO or pararel universe

[dusky trail]

use the in-game model for reference

and it should be bubble universe again

[lusty hazel]

thing is i dont have nyx :smolteriderp:

[dusky trail]

since Himeko seem to be alive in that world while Kiana suppose to be dead

[lusty hazel]

epic emote fail

[dusky trail]

you don't need to have Nyx to check her portrait though

[lusty hazel]

isnt there thisblue barrier thing

if you dont have the character

[dusky trail]

nope, if you just go outfit then click [portrait] mode

you will see her full body

[lusty hazel]

oh
cool

thanks

[dusky trail]

even the official art often draw by various artist so sometime they just change thing a bit

those 2 have the same ... bra? there but the choker on they neck are slightly different

or like this Seele using light blue for her inner hair instead of the usual dark blue

so using in-game model would be better

but then of course, sometime the in-game model got block by they weapon or hair so you have no choice but using official art to see some part too

ty, Mihoyo

waiting for them to release another artbook and hopefully, feature more char sheet

[lone wagon]

I'm tempted to do a Halloween fanart for honkai but it depends on how much energy I have

[dusky trail]

still want them to bring back the pumpkin series for halloween =3=

they seem to enjoy mahou shoujo outfit nowaday

[grave nymph]

Mahou Shoujo event when

maybe ones like Stan Wars

[lament stump]

I should mabye consider playing honkai

Making fanart and not even playing is weird

[dusky trail]

then just do more genshin fanart

[lament stump]

Should probably start doing ocs

Sounds cool

[potent mason]

veliona armpits

[lament stump]

Is drawing ocs just stealing different body parts of different caracters

[potent mason]

oc stands for OWN character

that means you make your own

not steal bodyparts

[dusky trail]

just call it "inspired" by other chars

[lusty hazel]

i thought oc stands for original character

my life is a lie

[potent mason]

dang, i shouldve said inspired everytime i copied someone's homework and alter it a bit back in my high school days

[shadow nebula]

it does stand for original character

[potent mason]

same thing, its your own

[lusty hazel]

understandable

[lament stump]

Gonna use that today

Currently in school and i do have a copied homework lol

[potent mason]

ye just say you got inspired by xxx's homework answers

[lusty hazel]

is this how you shade things

i just put a lot of airbrush

[lament stump]

Well i steal hair from one, color from other, eyes from one, color from the other, no one is gonna know

[hardy yew]

i mean for oc you can really do what you want

[dusky trail]

well you would need another layer for the under skirt part at least

[shadow nebula]

not exactly since you have a dress over the legs

[dusky trail]

also, when you trace the thigh back to the hip, her left hip make no sense

[lament stump]

Why color in sketch part tho

[shadow nebula]

everything casts shadows depending where the light hits, and pillow shading isn't exactly realistic

[lusty hazel]

holdup this doesnt make sense?

[lusty hazel]

im not

its just a doodle 4 fun

[dusky trail]

yes, just look at how much curve you can have on the right hip to the force curve on the left

[shadow nebula]

you have the dress over the legs and since I'm assuming you have very basic lighting the dress would cast a shadow on the legs

[dusky trail]

just move the thighs to the left to make it more balance

[lusty hazel]

shit

[lament stump]

The famous shiknis "just"

[potent mason]

because thats all he have to do, its that easy

[dusky trail]

also, the eye is too tilted again

[lusty hazel]

figured 😔

[lament stump]

Last night those calfs of mine were "just" as well

[shadow nebula]

the eyes are fine

[lament stump]

Did take a long time...

[potent mason]

because when you make changes theyre very tiny

smaller than an ant thats why

[dusky trail]

if you properly trace the thigh, it would be like this

[potent mason]

just like i told you to make the lower legs longer

[lament stump]

:(

At least i kniw my problem that's good

Just gotta fix that problem

[dusky trail]

but can you fix the habit of drawing it like that in the first place

[lament stump]

Will try

[dusky trail]

that is what Shii always say

[lament stump]

I'm here to not give up and continue to grow

I will do my best

[potent mason]

keeup up the good work

[lament stump]

Promise

[grave nymph]

[lament stump]

Btw silver

I was about to order that tablet

[potent mason]

yes?

[lament stump]

But there wasn't my country on the delivery thingy

[lusty hazel]

[lament stump]

And i was like it must be cuz it's new

Turns out

They have a different website fir Europe

.eu

Gonna order it today

[potent mason]

so hows the price there?

[dusky trail]

another part would be she barely have much hip there

[potent mason]

thre same?

[lament stump]

No

It's 50 bucks more

But there is a discount

[potent mason]

ah still within your budget range

[lament stump]

From 500 bucks to 400

435 with shipping

So yea in ky price range

I was tempted to buy tp version of it

But i was like, I'm not a pro i don't need that

[potent mason]

the tp ver is around 900 bucks iirc

coz it has touch screen

[lament stump]

Yea

And it has 4k resolution

[potent mason]

yup

[lament stump]

But eh, the normal one is still pog

[grave nymph]

tablets are expensive...

[potent mason]

but 4k in a 15" is barely noticeable tbh unless your monitor size is 24" or above

[lament stump]

That x3 chip in the pen sounds cool

[potent mason]

it is, ive seen lots of reviews about it and theperformance is very good

[lament stump]

Thanks for recommendation btw

I would've been stupid and go with wacom...

[potent mason]

np, i want better drawing experience for my fellow artists

[lament stump]

[lusty hazel]

regret

[dusky trail]

not really help when her rib is too big compare to her hip

even in the reference pic, you can see even with those boobs eating up her upper half, she still have more lower half than your

[lusty hazel]

i should prolly get a better ref pic lol

as of current the ref i have is just her kind of nodding

[grave nymph]

are you going for this kind of angle?

[lusty hazel]

nope

thanks for the reference anyway

[grave nymph]

am too far from shikni's number lul

[lusty hazel]

whoa

i only have like 14

[dusky trail]

meanwhile

[grave nymph]

woah

when did you start hoarding references btw?

[dusky trail]

around 2015

[grave nymph]

oh wow

[dusky trail]

that is when i bought this PC after all

[grave nymph]

no wonder you have 50k pics w

[hardy yew]

Yesterday i did the seele but my file disappeared

It was better and more cleaner

That seele is still in works

[lament stump]

This looks so easy to draw

But in reality..

[dusky trail]

quite easy though

[forest crystal]

ok but i dont see it as art of any hi3 characters

or anything hi3 related

and im pretty sure bionicles arent apart of the hi3 universe

[lament stump]

It's art

It can be whatever he wants o.O

[dusky trail]

well that is #honkai-fan-art so it would need to be honkai there

[fiery lantern]

i need help

I need this but in an actual pose reference

😭😭

[dusky trail]

what even is that first

[fiery lantern]

I said to my friend

I’ll find a good art pose reference

give me the base of it

and that’s what she gave

😭

[dusky trail]

=3=

[fiery lantern]

😇

[dusky trail]

it just hard to tell which line is for the limb

[grave nymph]

^

[fiery lantern]

that’s exactly what I said

but she said

whoops

[dusky trail]

just tell her to at least show you which part is the limb

[plain bane]

I think tye centreline is connected to the feet? Not too sure what the appendages i assume tye legs are supposed to be there for though since they don't connected the feet

I first thought they turned the centreline into conjoined legs

[dusky trail]

meanwhile it just look like someone doing the crossleg pose with one leg behind the other

[plain bane]

I don't see that ay all

Like this?

Scuffed sketches

[dusky trail]

meanwhile it just look like this to me

[plain bane]

Ig interpretation is key

[potent mason]

What it looks like to me

[grave nymph]

same

I thought it was a mic stand too lul

[dusky trail]

that also look like someone wearing a jacket

[plain bane]

Everyone is different ig

[lament stump]

to me

it looks like he vomiting tru his boobs

[plain bane]

You should draw that I'm struggling to picture it

[fierce snow]

wait, it isn't a mic stand?

[plain bane]

If that's a mic stand I see sum way different

[dusky trail]

and look it in another way, it can also look like a gangster

[young horizon]

Yall separate your limbs? 😂

I smack everyone with a heck lot of clothing and fabric loooool

[plain bane]

[lament stump]

I'm trying to learn anatomy

[shadow nebula]

human anatomy is quite fun to learn

[plain bane]

Same thing here

Currently our college has dedicated lessons every Tuesday with a life model

It's helping quite alot with both my digital art and my other art

[shadow nebula]

quick 10 mins per study

[fierce snow]

wha, you drew that?

[shadow nebula]

yeah

[whole cloak]

ooh nice values

[lament stump]

time to make her into a broken girl

[dusky trail]

tilt too much

[lament stump]

there's alway something wrong

did i tilt her upper body to much or whole body?

what about that

does that look cool

[dusky trail]

well tilt too much like that gonna be a pain for you to draw the hair you know

[lament stump]

I'll cry about hair when we get there

[lament stump]

this cool tho?

[dusky trail]

i mean falling like that mean her body will be hit by the air resistance a lot so maintain that kind of pose would be impossible

[lament stump]

i mean it's a drawing, it's mabye in the split second when she dose the pose

and I akicar the cool guy captured that moment

[dusky trail]

sure

[lament stump]

ik the shape is fucked and all but defore i make it okay, is the arm good lenght?

[dusky trail]

no shoulder and that arm is completely broken

[lament stump]

can't bend like that?

[dusky trail]

you can try and find out

[lament stump]

this?

i mean it looks like slime noddle

but

[dusky trail]

what even you try to do with the arm there

[lament stump]

AAH

why art so hard

something like that ig

[dusky trail]

that work because the body is sideway

[lament stump]

okay, putting the both hends up, she not broken anymore

she broke me instead

[lament stump]

tbh i feel good bout this one

[dusky trail]

her left boob too high if you trying for that kind of pose

it pretty much on her shoulder now

[lament stump]

okay senpai

is it a pass?

[dusky trail]

hmmm passable

[lament stump]

LET'S FUCKIN GOOO

um where do i fing her design?

[dusky trail]

https://twitter.com/fenrysk/status/1433790120340201475

mingye zhu (@fenrysk)

mobius 5.2 v1

artist reference

#honkaiimpact3rd

Twitter · Sep 3, 2021, 1:52 PM

[dusky trail]

not enough butt shot

[lament stump]

thanks to both

[potent mason]

its enough for me to draw the mobius back ver of the dakimakura

[lament stump]

art btw

also i still didn't get the meme

need help

[lusty breach]

They have dog ears....

°-°

[dapper nova]

workin on a lil seelepet animation

[lament stump]

Oh

OH

Silver is into that

[potent mason]

Reminds me of that kids book I've read before where an idol bred with a horse, dog, and a pig. Funny shit

[lament stump]

Why you wake up at 6am tho

[potent mason]

The story was about an idol going into financial ruin until a bright idea struck her. Breed with animals and create a human hybrid and sell them to circus. Little fid she know it would 9 months before that happens

And no, I haven't slept yet coz I've been racing with my commission deadline

But I finished it now so no biggie, now I can slack until start of October

[lament stump]

Are you in mihoyo content creator thing as well?

[potent mason]

Nop

I'm just an artist. Not a content creator

Next work would be that cute panda artpiece

[lament stump]

It's cool to be independent like that

[potent mason]

Takes a while to gather your clients but always promote your stuff to proper places and you'll meet ppl who're technically slave to your art

[lament stump]

I'll work to someday become that

Way more fun then working in an office

[potent mason]

Yes, there's nothing better than doing what you love and earning money from it st the same time

Also...no taxes paid in this line of work :v

[lament stump]

I'm not rly informed about taxes but ik they suck

Your country is taking money from you for no reason

Something like that

[potent mason]

Ye it's stupid like they're entitled on your money or something

Gonna sleep in a few mins tho I still have to drive back home coz studio doesn't have a bed

[lament stump]

You have a studio

Damn that's so cool

[potent mason]

'-')b

[lament stump]

Good night, i gotta sleep too

[potent mason]

Show me your pen display once it arrives. I'm ordering one next month as well so I'm also sitting on the excited train

[lament stump]

It will arrive in 10 to 20 days

It doesn't come with a stand for the tablet and the wires are small, keep that in mind

[potent mason]

I suggest you buy huion's stand, you can adjust it to many different angles unlike xp pen who only have 2 angles, 1 a bit standing and 1 laying down which sux

And trust me when I say the stand is necessary coz without them you'll turn into a grandma with backpains a few hrs when drawing lol

[lament stump]

I ordered axp pen stand with the tablet cuz i ordered it from their web site

So i was like i might as well order the stand cuz it's gonna come with the same delivery

Gonna buy a new stand if that one doesn't work out good for me

[potent mason]

Kk

[lament stump]

I had a scoliosis surgery back in October so i definitely gotta watch out for my back..

[potent mason]

Ye take care man

[young horizon]

i started with drawing that fire goddess dudu headband
but then the perspective killed me

i how have purple question marks

i changed everythingggg

[fiery lantern]

HAHHAQHQ THANKS FOR EVERYTHING ABOVE THSI TOO

she said they were very helpful

[dusky trail]

so, did she eventually decide what the heck is that thing suppose to be yet

[hardy yew]

all finished!

thanks for the help everyone

[dusky trail]

why there is a random black dot near the tip of her tail there

[hardy yew]

aha sorry tiny slip-up

thanks for noticing I’m gonna remove it

[young horizon]

Bruh how the heck did you even notice that LOL

[hardy yew]

keen eye

[dusky trail]

it is pretty stand out

the draw is quite blurry so there just one dot look rather "high-res" just pop up a lot

[hardy yew]

yep

[young horizon]

*sighs in potatata phone kekek

I'm glad its caught

One of my fears is saving something as the final png bc i think its done

And then come back to see a flaw, but boom everything is on a single layer now looool

[fiery lantern]

I finally finished the lineart

the skirt was so hard so I just didn’t try 🤪

[dusky trail]

but where is her collarbone~

[fiery lantern]

I just added it lol

collarbones are so hard to draw

it’s kiana btw

I will colour it now

[dusky trail]

you will learn to enjoy drawing collarbone someday ufufufuf

[lusty hazel]

whats happening with her skirt

[fiery lantern]

I don’t even know at this point

it was too hard

so I just whatever was easy

lol

I don’t

understand

[lusty hazel]

yeah you can easily tell that my hand was very shaky in the making of this

no braid oke

[fiery lantern]

lmao

[fiery lantern]

my iPad

is dead

[lusty hazel]

imagine having an ipad

[fiery lantern]

It’s a tablet

it’s my mums

But I downloaded ibis

bc I lost my stylus to draw on my laptop

It’s more like this HTE

btw

[fiery lantern]

wait WHYD u only outline some of it

[lusty hazel]

1. shaky hands as i said
2. couldnt be bothered to do that
3. the rest is fine unless shikni breaks in and says something

[fiery lantern]

oh

LMFAOAOA

[grave nymph]

always trust Shikni-sensei to correctly roast your anatomy

[fiery lantern]

yea

am I allowed

[lusty hazel]

then theres best nsfw artist silver

[fiery lantern]

to say

bc I said my ____ cheek was itchy

Am I getting banned now

I didn’t mean it I swear

I’m sorry

[lusty hazel]

ye

[fiery lantern]

oh

my ass cheek hella itchy

[lusty hazel]

search up ass in message history and the number will be atleast 21k

[fiery lantern]

oh

what about

the s

word

[lusty hazel]

i have no idea on what you mean

[fiery lantern]

oh

[fiery lantern]

😻😻

[lusty hazel]

the amount of free time i have to draw these doodles is scary

[fiery lantern]

I don’t have time

[potent mason]

its fine as long as its not words that are associated with racism

[lament stump]

Good work

[potent mason]

this doesnt even look dead to me...anime cmon

[fiery lantern]

uh

I do not know how to react to that

[potent mason]

no need to

[lament stump]

Ai can will get mad

Cuz of the white stuff

[potent mason]

thats foam

[pseudo patio]

A very interesting topic for a game server with a rating 12+

[potent mason]

my bad

[lament stump]

Told you

[grave nymph]

Honkai has a rating of 12+?

that’s the first time I’ve heard of it w

[lament stump]

Did you guya see the genshin drama?

The game's is exploding

[lime needle]

16+

[potent mason]

what drama is in gi rn?

the anni reward?

[grave nymph]

as always

[potent mason]

theres always drama in gi community, they get off from that feeling while they post their rumbmlings in twitter

[lament stump]

The rating on the app store was 1.9

Idk while ppl crying so much

[lament stump]

I just remembered, tbh how does someone look dead irl, they don't move, that's it

And they stink

[potent mason]

because thats basically gi communty, they love to cry, be SJWs and cancel ppl, be racist while pointing ppl racists at the same time

[lament stump]

Also genshin did some good things

But ppl only focuse on bad

And tbh these anniversary rewards ain't bad

Ppl just like to be annoying

[fiery lantern]

don’t talk ab the anniversary rewrds

[fiery lantern]

I agree tho

ppl are hating on tot and honkai on the App Store bc genshin fans aren’t happy with the rewards 🙁

[dusky trail]

well we shouldn't talk it here anyway

[potent mason]

it says complaining though, we dont give a shit about GI anni rewards so theres nothing to complain to

[dusky trail]

nah i mean because this is art-disussion channel

[fiery lantern]

yea

[hallow marsh]

Any good tips on how to make lighting look a bit sharper to make it fit the atmosphere? Lemme throw an example in

[lament stump]

Not like we always just discuss art

[hallow marsh]

While I like how I did this image, I want to make the lighting look a little less hazy if you get what I mean?

[lament stump]

Well there is kind of no lighting on her body

Except that knee

Consider

Highlighting the edges

That could sharpen the pic

Basically put with lines over her body where the lightning hits the most

[hallow marsh]

Then I'll have to make them more obvious since I've already done that as the light is coming from the top

[lament stump]

Yea, your "highlights" ar very pale or as you said hazy

Making them totally white or very bright blue "cuz the light is blue"

[hallow marsh]

Mhm I'll take that into consideration, thanks

[lament stump]

https://youtu.be/A218Xy42_Ps

It's a useful video overall

But in the timestamps down below you have highlights part

Could listen to what the pro has to say

[hallow marsh]

Yeah I'll have to watch when I'm off work

[lament stump]

I'm sure the pic will turn out grate, keep up the good work

[dusky trail]

how many light source in that pic anyway

the headlight and 4 lanterns?

[hallow marsh]

Yeah

Those are the only sources

[dusky trail]

then you certainly make it hard for yourself there

but anyway, all the shadow will focus on the center of her body then

you could also use shading that match the light's color to give it more atmosphere

that would make her blend in with the light more

[hallow marsh]

Mhm thanks! Now that I'm thinking about it, I probably would've benefitted from using multiple sources on a 3D model

[dusky trail]

the 4 lanterns there also erase her shadow completely so you don't need that either

well not completely i guess but it would be more hazy so just give some light brush there to make the shadow more faded

anyway, you should use 1 more shadow layer on the char

same with the background

it just not dark enough if you trying to go for this "standing under the light" thing

[hallow marsh]

Yeah I understand what you're meaning

So her shadow would be more of a haze, or like a bluey haze because of the Lanterns?

[dusky trail]

yes

her torso would look a lot darker under the head light too

[potent mason]

like this, the lights are coming from below

[dusky trail]

anyway, the main problem right now is just not dark enough

[hallow marsh]

Ahh okay that makes sense

Lighting atm is my current main area I want to improve on so this was incredibly useful

[dusky trail]

what type of layer you use for lightning anyway

[hallow marsh]

Colour dodge

Or Add (glow)

[dusky trail]

try to combine hard pen and airbrush for it

it will give you a more sharp light

[hallow marsh]

That's a good point yeah

[shadow nebula]

this is a good reference for someone in a spotlight

[hallow marsh]

Thank you~
Will need to crack on with lighting studies later

[dusky trail]

use sharp lightning on the edge of the body always so fun to do too~

but ya, you can see they use sharp edge for the outline while a lighter lightning on the body to highlight it

[lament stump]

Thoes boobs are weird

[hallow marsh]

Yeah, certainly seems you can go rather bright with them and I like the balance of the hard and soft lighting in that image

[potent mason]

just an artist exxagarating a feature

[dusky trail]

anime style can throw away most restrain when it come to style after all

even if you give the char stocking so tight it looks like there is no blood going to her leg

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/oiofn7ONyzb_PmjxELHfut5RI0Q5u1jDqGrwXG6vdtU/https/cdn.donmai.us/original/b0/09/__usalia_disgaea_and_1_more__b0094a039187b24434b8a2abcd30907d.jpg?width=489&height=675

or all the meat just went into the thigh

Disgaea' style sure change a lot through the years

[potent mason]

i think fetish is one of the factors

[hallow marsh]

Yeah

[dusky trail]

https://cdn.donmai.us/original/24/4f/__etna_and_prinny_disgaea_and_1_more_drawn_by_harada_takehito__244fa2a7703b8365dc689e314c6612a5.jpg

https://cdn.donmai.us/original/81/fe/__etna_disgaea_and_1_more__81fea69973f25d836ea013bef1af669b.png

and then

https://cdn.donmai.us/original/36/9f/__etna_and_saint_etna_disgaea_and_1_more__369f53f11fed7fe83a2f19df8bda46f2.png

and now

[hallow marsh]

I do enjoy the Disgaea art style

Yeah it's certainly changed

[dusky trail]

well back in early 2000, the "wearing huge boot" style is more popular

[lament stump]

You have reference for everything..

[dusky trail]

or more like, they don't pay attention to the feet as much compare to now

harada takehito using hard pen style so of course i would stored his stuff

[hallow marsh]

Fair enough honestly

[lone wagon]

Cosplayers do the best references I swear

Get some really cool things

[lament stump]

Wow

Never know cosplay cool look so cool

[lone wagon]

Yeah professionals do some really cool things

[plain bane]

Taht looks really cool

Now I wanna cosplay

But i can't

Stuck ina museum rn

[lone wagon]

You can get really simple dynamic poses from just looking at cosplay

[hallow marsh]

Indeed yeah

Once my Kaeya cosplay eventually gets here, I could do some poses for future drawings

[potent mason]

i think you also need to have a good face to compliment the cosplay coz if you're ugly af even if your cosplay is good audience are gonna nope the fck out

[lone wagon]

Lmao silver

People cosplay for fun so it doesn't matter

If they wanna be a professional then that's a different matter

[potent mason]

ye but there are ppl out there who're slave to likes and follows and we know that

[lone wagon]

Oh yeah

But what I'm saying is. You can get some really cool poses for inspiration from cosplayers

[hallow marsh]

Mhm, i feel cosplay is mainly just about having fun and if you enjoy being that character, thats great

[lone wagon]

Yeah but what silver mean is you'll have to have a good face I'd you wanna be a famous cosplayers

[potent mason]

ye i think the point of what i said aims for a serious type of cosplayer but yea casual ones or even ppl who secretly just do them is no problem at all

[lone wagon]

Well tbh makeup and photoshop can fix that

[potent mason]

ye, crazy make up skills can turn an average joe into a celebrity-grade face, i've seen lots of korean short vids about that and it blows my mind everytime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swsy4vQzBF0

like this

crazy skills

[lone wagon]

That's just pure photoshop

[potent mason]

no, watch the vid

[lone wagon]

Even with makeup you cannot change your face

I've seen those type of videos

Makeup cannot change your face shape to that degree

And ik since im pretty good at makeup

[potent mason]

maybe its just my ignorance on makeup by being a man 🤣

[lone wagon]

Thr makeup to their eyes are mostly real but the face shape they use heavy filters

Unless they decided to go to the plastic surgeon just for a video then it's mostly filters and a bit of makeup

[hallow marsh]

My makeup knowledge just lies in eyebrows lol

[lament stump]

Lmao

I meant could

Looks so cool...

Alse knew*

[hallow marsh]

I really respect the cosplayers who can make their own clothes and armour, sadly I don't have the time or space to do that

[lone wagon]

Aki you're becoming like me and typos

Me too

I can do a bit of sewing but I can't make clothes

So I envy those skills xD

[hallow marsh]

Same
I once tried to make Agni from Black Butler's outfit but I got the sizing wrong and my machine broke so I gave up XD

[lone wagon]

Lmaoo

[hallow marsh]

Most I can do is modify and combine existing outfits

[lament stump]

I have some skills, i can make a poached egg, that's my proudest skill :)

[lone wagon]

If i were to cosplay id just straight up order it from someone who knwos how to make it.

Lmao aki xD

[lament stump]

So many typos in one sentence...

[hallow marsh]

That's what I do now, I ordered my first cosplay and just waiting for it to arrive now...

[lament stump]

TRY MAKING IT THO

Not easyyyyy

[lusty breach]

I'm a girl and I never put makeup on my face by myself
°-°

I just cant

[lone wagon]

It's easier than it looks.

[lusty breach]

[lone wagon]

It's like painting

But easier and on your face

[lament stump]

What's that thing that you put on your eyelashes to make them big

[lone wagon]

Mascara

[lusty breach]

Oh

Have u tried fake eyelashes?

[lament stump]

I HAVE PUTTED THAT ON MY EYES AND I WAS SHOCKED

[lusty breach]

Are those heavy?

[lament stump]

Made the eyelashes Sooooooooo looong

[lament stump]

I'm a guy

So

No.

But mascara rly did blow my mind

[lone wagon]

So you are a guy?

I use eyelash curlers and then put mascara on. Since I like to shape it first

[lament stump]

You didn't know?

[lusty breach]

Oh so that's what its called

[potent mason]

i also see cosplayers using 3d printers to print parts of their cosplays

[lament stump]

Sliver is a girl

[potent mason]

no

[lone wagon]

I genuinely thought everyone except for silver is a girl since the last discussion about this

[lament stump]

Hm weird

[potent mason]

[lusty breach]

Hehe I dont usually talk here

[lament stump]

I tough i made clear i wasn't a girl cuz of..

[lusty breach]

I just

[lament stump]

That broken girl fetish and everything else

[potent mason]

nah you're girl coz your avatar is female, aki

[hallow marsh]

Oh dear XD

[lament stump]

That's a pfp, not a avatar

Bloody eula

[lusty breach]

Observe....

[lone wagon]

I thought he was a girl cuz he was the one that was like. Most people here are girls

[lament stump]

You do art?

[lone wagon]

We do mostly talk about art since it's an art discussion channel

[lusty breach]

🤏

[lone wagon]

Talking about copsplays counts as art right?

[lament stump]

Cuz that's the truth

[lusty breach]

Yep

It is art

[hallow marsh]

Yeah

Channel description says it allows cosplayers too so it counts 👍

[potent mason]

also mentioned here

[lone wagon]

Aki why did you try mascara? Did someone force u as a dare?

[lament stump]

Well

And no

[lone wagon]

I was trying to edit it but it kept editing to date

[lament stump]

I was curious cuz i have a mom and a sister

They have a shit ton of make up

So i was like

Let me put this thing on

And like i said, my mind was blown away

[lone wagon]

I swear the boys either pick up the mascara or the eyeliner first

[lament stump]

1st... I am NOT going for the 2nd

Mabye

That thing

That you put on the face

And your skin becomes smooth

Like powder

Powered in skin color

[lone wagon]

It's just called powder. There's a lot of different types but its main purpose is to keep your face from oiling up

[lament stump]

Oh

[lone wagon]

Like shining with grease

[hallow marsh]

Ahhhh

[lament stump]

I have a lot of pimples so like that thing could erase them

[lone wagon]

Yeah it keeps your makeup in place too since when your face gets oily the makeup comes off

[lament stump]

Make up is cool

[lone wagon]

Powder isn't that great foundation and concealer does most of the work with covering up imperfections

And if you know how to use colour corrector its even better

[lament stump]

Ye make up cool

Not gonna use it tho

[lone wagon]

It's cool but if you can't properly get it off your face it makes your skin worse

So it's important do skincare if you use makeup.

[lament stump]

I have respect for you girls, it must not be easy to do make up

[lone wagon]

I find it relaxing to do makeup xD I like it a lot

[lament stump]

Well you good at it that's why

If i tried it i would just be sad about how it turned out cuz I'm probably bad at it

[lone wagon]

I'm not a pro but I'm decent at it. I prefer doing a more natural makeup though.

[lament stump]

I like that look more too

The one with like a lot of colors is cool but not for every occasion

There is a girl on tik tok

Holy fuck her make uo skill were amazing

She was making snakes on her face and galaxys and everything

So cool

Forgot the name tho

[lusty hazel]

snap back to art discussion™

[lone wagon]

Makeup is art

Thougu

Though

[lusty hazel]

i mean like actual artwork, yk drawings

[lone wagon]

There are illusion makeup artists those guys do some freaky things

[lusty hazel]

think i saw some in the past, shit was deepfrying my brain

[lone wagon]

Yeah these guys

[ocean flower]

I found this guy who's really good and has a lot of good tutorials, (I think) all his videos are subbed in eng and other languages

I'll drop his link if someone is interested

[lusty hazel]

sauce pls

[ocean flower]

https://youtube.com/c/saito_naoki

[lone wagon]

I watch him on YouTube

[ocean flower]

He's really good

[hallow marsh]

Oh that guy!!!!

[lament stump]

For the love of good, make those lines on the thighs less wide

[lone wagon]

I sent his videos here twice before

[lusty hazel]

no

thats my preference for sketches

lol

[lament stump]

But how do you do line art

Just in the middle of that?

[lusty hazel]

i dont

ez solution

[lone wagon]

Thick lines like those I do too in my sketches. All you do is make a new layer

[lusty hazel]

yea its a rough sketch

[lament stump]

Yea

[lone wagon]

Make the opacity lower of the sketch layer and then draw better lineart on top

[lament stump]

This is my latest sketch

[lusty hazel]

my sketches look better than my actual line art

[lament stump]

I can't do with thoe big lines

[hallow marsh]

Felt that lol

[lusty hazel]

hence why you mostly see small doodles from me lol

[lament stump]

There's a yt vid about that

Watch it

[lusty hazel]

is she laying on the ground

genuinely dont know

[lament stump]

Falling

[lusty hazel]

oh
why she hugging air

[lament stump]

The stupid legs are together cuz mobius is like that

Can't seperate the legs

[lone wagon]

If you're interested naoki saito did a whole video to why some people sketches looks better than their lineart

And how to fix that

[lament stump]

When i draw the hends it will look somewhat believebl

[lusty hazel]

theres this one method that makes your line art as good as your sketch, but it requires patience, lots of time, and sheer fucking will

[ocean flower]

Mouse or tablet?

[lament stump]

Tablet

Ordered artist pro 16 tho

Super excited about it

[lone wagon]

Good for you. I prefer tablet too

[lusty hazel]

ill search that up once i finish my noodles thank you

[lone wagon]

I'm happy with my lineart. It's 10x than my sketch for sure

I think im not gonna do the other 2 sketch for my oc I'm too lazy ioll just colour the two I've already done

[lament stump]

My line art took about 20h for eula drawing, just because i never gonna let my line not be perfect

And 20h cuz I'm a newbie

[lone wagon]

One think I learn from naoki

Perfect lineart is not good lineart

[lament stump]

Depends what is the definition of that perfect

[lone wagon]

The reason some people feel that their sketch is better than their lineart is because they try to make their lineart lines too perfect

And top straight and too neat

[lusty hazel]

usually when i do drawing i just say "it doesnt have to be perfect, good enough is ok" and in my logic, good enough = perfect

skull emoji

[lament stump]

I meant perfect as in the ones i feel like they are the best looking

[lone wagon]

Well that's one of the reasons anyways

Another reason is that their lines are the same thickness. In lineart you need a variety of thickness

[lament stump]

I go by : if better is possible then good is not good enough

[lone wagon]

Like lighter lines and darker lines

[lament stump]

Ye ofc

[lone wagon]

I stoll need to improve on that. Because you need to know where to put your darker and lighter lines

Otherwise it'll be a mess

https://youtu.be/abftOwHsc6g

https://youtu.be/-ATcdH7aRJc