art-discussion-and-wip

[plain bane]

I ran out of time to fix it

[grave nymph]

very early prep for bday
who knows when will I have the time to draw w

I wonder if this very very very rough draft's okay w

[potent mason]

finished the sketch for the two

[dusky trail]

try to get her butt reference is a pain since we don't really have her yet

[lament stump]

Never

I only started drawing cuz i had a tablet

[potent mason]

Dang

Oh well

[lament stump]

I mean now i draw doodles while in class

And they are hard af

You can't do ctrl z that's to hardest part

[dusky trail]

imagine need to ctrl z

[potent mason]

Someone needs to have a face to face meetup with eraser

[lament stump]

To much work

Having to use it

I don't even use it when i make a typo

I just scribble over the oart i messed up

It's so annoying to use

[potent mason]

hmm now i lost motivation to draw after that mobius

ill just do it tmr

[lament stump]

Time is money

Money is time

[potent mason]

but this mobius isnt a commission so i aint getting money from this

[lament stump]

Oh

[dusky trail]

time to make it into hugging pillow yourself and sell it to Akicar for quick buck

[lament stump]

You think I would buy a body pillow?

[potent mason]

currently have 2 commissions pending but i dont feel like doing it for now. They're kind of boring so ill just work on my Mobius \ 🙂 /

until i yearn for money again

actually its 3 but the other guy havent approved the sketch yet 🤔

[dusky trail]

you got to love it when your client just disappear after you send them the sketch

[potent mason]

haha

[lament stump]

Cool kids dialogue smh

[dusky trail]

kids with a lot of followers dialogue

[lament stump]

How meny does he have

[grave nymph]

wait, that happens?

I thought people pay some of the money required the moment they request a drawing

[potent mason]

thats not how it works

[dusky trail]

usually depend on the artist

but usually is sketch-payment-art

[potent mason]

yup

[dusky trail]

good thing i have a good amount of regular so they have no problem pay me before hand and sometime even bonus

[potent mason]

unfortunately there are also ppl out there who uses an artist's inexperience in the field to trick them and only pay after the whole piece is done

which usually results in them completely stealing it without giving money

[lament stump]

That's rude

[dusky trail]

while some artist seem to took on so many commissions then take like months to even finish

[potent mason]

its just the sad truth of the world we live in

when i started on the field i would only take commissions from ppl i already know like in discord, and fb and they just slowly recommended me to other ppl they know until i got to this state

[grave nymph]

o

that’s a good process

[potent mason]

pixiv is also great for commissions and you can guarantee there wont be any scammers there coz of the way the commission process works

im too lazy to work on anything anymore so have my joshikousei bronya instead
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89028387

ah i forgot pixiv have this weird crop

[grave nymph]

buroniya

[frank sundial]

that sucks

They should always keep some form of communication if they have something going on between them and the person they are dealing business with

[potent mason]

its fine, he hasnt approv ed it yet coz i sent it to him in his sleeping time

also hes one of my oldest regulars so we trust each other very much

[frank sundial]

most of the artists I go to are usually across the world from me

[potent mason]

hehe

[frank sundial]

We talk to each other in each other's sleep time

so hearing back 10 hours later is pretty normal for me

[potent mason]

he'll be up around 2 hrs from now

[dusky trail]

2 years later

[frank sundial]

There is this one artist I commission for about 150 usd but have not gotten anything back since april

[potent mason]

well that sucks

[frank sundial]

Lately these days I just think of canceling, but the slots are very rare and the fact that their art is very good in my standards is the reason I keep holding on but

idk

plus no communication

[potent mason]

whens the last you made contact?

⚰️

[frank sundial]

last month and they said "Sorry am late on working commission"

[potent mason]

bruh its already september, freggin 6 months

[frank sundial]

do you think I am too nice sometimes

[potent mason]

maybe

the guy is from pixiv?

[frank sundial]

I have seen some people who are total jerks to artists for no reason

no they are someone from fiverr

i think they have a pixiv

but have not checked

the art style is consistent so they appear legitimate

I can understand if the artist has a personal dilemma and I always give them time to take care of themselves but 6 months...

[potent mason]

lol that reminds me of a post i saw on twitter where the client asked the artist if he can draw a tanned oc of the client, he declined coz he didnt have experience with tanned skin and the guy just labeled him as racist coz he only know how to draw white women like bruh tan isnt even a race, its a part of the skin thats exposed too much from sunlight

[frank sundial]

I just only need them to tell me "hey I got issues with my life, I need to cancel your request"

[frank sundial]

omg

people these days

[potent mason]

makes you rly question what kind of brain this kind of ppl have

[frank sundial]

probably not enough room in their head for at least 1 brain cell

already reached max capacity

[potent mason]

and the artist politely declined because he was inexperienced, it was a good move rather than taking a request and screwing it up coz you dont know how to do something but guy just went with the racist card

[frank sundial]

I will probably give them until december until I decline

then use the refund to commission you

[potent mason]

O.o"

[frank sundial]

I know I am probably nuts for waiting this long

let me show you a sample of their art

[cosmic zealot]

practicing doing full body, well.. mostly some of it

[potent mason]

[lament stump]

A newb?

[spiral ridge]

So, after a few hours of staring at Mobius' model's butt (because we have no actual references for it). This is where the sketch is at. Taking a break now, soon I'll move onto the part I don't like (Isolating the base colours)

[prime kelp]

the face looks a bit off

[potent mason]

'-')/ 🎉

another mobius art

[spiral ridge]

I do want to clean up a lot of it

[dusky trail]

the armpit look rather off

[spiral ridge]

I had a lot of trouble with the armpit from this angle

[dusky trail]

i should have something for that~ sec

[spiral ridge]

I got a few references, though

[dusky trail]

=3=

[spiral ridge]

Lemme clean this up

[spiral ridge]

Where did you see the face being off?

[spiral ridge]

I would still appreciate the references for the armpits though

If you could help

[dusky trail]

i will see if i can get a reference that pass through discord filter first

[prime kelp]

maybe its just me but it looks too small or the eyes are just wrongly placed

[dusky trail]

yep, no good

anyway, the arm would be a lot higher

the way you draw it right now, her shoulder look dislocated

to show armpit while touching her lips, the arm would be more parallel

[spiral ridge]

I can mess with that. Gimme a sec

[lament stump]

you just want to lick her armpit

[wary iris]

[prime kelp]

bro why

why would u

what if it smells like sweat

[lament stump]

not me

[lament stump]

is it rly the easiest for you to use that brush for sketching?

[spiral ridge]

I don't know. It's more habit by this point, I like the feeling of the pencil

[lament stump]

does it have pen pressure?

[spiral ridge]

Mistakes made when using pens show up too much and the screen gets too cluttered for me

It does have pressure

[lament stump]

hm I feel like useing this kind of brush without pen pressure is way easier to get a clear sketch

the one our senpai used to diss you

like you see how clean thoes lines are

I mean if you are used to pencil that's okay then

[spiral ridge]

I don't call that dissing, tbh

[lament stump]

ik I'm joking

[spiral ridge]

I appreciate the help when I'm having trouble

[lament stump]

she helps so muchhh

other ppl help to

[spiral ridge]

Those lines are clean when you don't do it the way I do by overlapping lines

[lament stump]

you did tradicional before digital?

[spiral ridge]

Yep yep

[lament stump]

yeah I assume it's just a habit

[spiral ridge]

I've been drawing for quite a while, just not super consitently

I have trouble with time management

[lament stump]

yea your sketch doesn't look beginner like at all

[spiral ridge]

So I feel like I forget some of my basics

The armpit thing should be fundamental anatomy stuff

[lament stump]

that dislocated shoulder was a big mistake but it's okay cuz you're in sketch stage

[fierce snow]

How are you supposed to draw anything below the knees?

or above

or men...

[proven nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/724341895311917117.gif?v=1

do you guys have any general advice for using tablet for first time?

it's display one so a little easier but ya um it feels cool but different and !! uh i gotta get used to the pen pressure thing which is nice but im not used to having that

[vagrant dune]

goth gf elysia

[grave nymph]

I guess set up the shortcuts for the buttons?

if there are any buttons?

[proven nest]

there are two on the pen or do you mean on the actual tablet? there are uh 3 circle ones, then 2 oval and then 3 circle ones again.. i kinda clicked them to see what they did but idk how to set up those buttons.. i did set up ctrl-z to one on the pen but ya <_>

this is so much faster/easier than using my laptop trackpad/touchpad? whatever the heck it's called

AHHH im so excited

[grave nymph]

what software are you using?

for drawing?

[proven nest]

clip studio, but i do have paint tool sai just havent gotten used to it yet

idk if one is better than the other but ya

[grave nymph]

https://www.clip-studio.com/site/gd_en/csp/userguide/csp_userguide/500_menu/500_menu_file_shortcut_win.htm

[proven nest]

oh! thank you

[grave nymph]

no problem o/

[hardy yew]

about to start the lineart

any details i can add or anything i can fix?

[tender oar]

I’m probably late but the bangs part should stick out more

[hardy yew]

which area?

[tender oar]

The front half of the hair?

It has more volume than the back part so it should be a bit more floofy

[hardy yew]

✏️ 🗒️

[tender oar]

Ok wait a sec

[hardy yew]

nitro ran out so i gotta use default emotes to show emotion lmao

pretend thats an animated noted emote

[tender oar]

I’ll try to find an actual example

See that indent in the middle?

[frank sundial]

[jaunty python]

just some concept sketches of my oc

[hardy yew]

so basically

i should add more floof and curls and whatnot right

to the front half

[tender oar]

Curls isn’t the right word but yeah

Basically

[hardy yew]

like

add more hair ya?

[frank sundial]

do you have a pixiv?

[tender oar]

Nope

[frank sundial]

aw darn, but do you draw art?

[tender oar]

I used to do that thing that many people do where they half start a project and never finish it but then school started so I don’t really anymore

[frank sundial]

I am pretty much the same

I used to draw decent traditional art

then got too busy with school and my pursuit to make drawing out of anything got more unfinished

then eventually I stopped doing art entirely

[stiff junco]

[full solstice]

onigiri

toge

[frank sundial]

Cute

[potent mason]

what tablet do you use?

[rugged galleon]

Sakura

[potent mason]

@spiral ridge found a pose for your armpit

[grave nymph]

o

[lament stump]

So meny new ppl in the chat

Nice

[lament stump]

Why not continue?

[grave nymph]

oooh

detailed cheebe

[bitter pagoda]

Looking for some critique on a HoF themed gunpla repaint I've planned out

[potent mason]

nothing wrong so far

though for a gundam its ill-equipped

[ocean flower]

Holy shit that's cool

[bitter pagoda]

It's shoulder things combine with its main sword to become a giant buster sword

Going to paint/mod the sword hilt to have the 4 cores

[lament stump]

Why these lines brown

[bitter pagoda]

The front skirts armour used to be red, got lazy when i changed my mind and recoloured them back to white

[lament stump]

Well it's like 4 lines i don't think it's gonna take that much turning them to back

Black *

[tropic plank]

Anything I should fix??

[dusky trail]

no delicious collarbone aside, everything else seem check out

[tropic plank]

Collarbone was erased when costume was drawn on

[dusky trail]

well then, now that i got her reference, i should have some fun with her

because for some reason, a lot of her art seem to avoid show her left side

[thick egret]

Oh, gundam

U know the 00 quanta?

[lament stump]

what kind of fun?

[dusky trail]

who know, need to do some sketch and find out

[spiral ridge]

Thanks for that. Gonna go back to working on it in a bit.

[bitter pagoda]

Yeah ill go and fix that when i get into more detailed planning

[dusky trail]

not enough thigh

[frank sundial]

probably because armpit

[dusky trail]

well even when she show her armpit, she barely show much of her left side

even though she has a "good" cut out part on her side there

[potent mason]

but her left is mostly covered by waistplate

[dusky trail]

not to mention the sleeve and cape on the right

oh well, she always have those

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/783078378872897608/888035603109785649/Honkai_1475.png?width=1202&height=676

i should do one of those "juicy detail" draw with that

[potent mason]

yes please

[dusky trail]

then finish this for me first

[potent mason]

'-')7

[dusky trail]

i'm totally forgot Mobius has claw on her right hand...

[potent mason]

yes

and a mere glove in the left

mihoyo really have assymetry fetish i swear to god

[dusky trail]

that and crosslegs fetish

if Mobius didn't wear a long dress

won't be surprise if she sit that way too

[frank sundial]

they do

have yoo seen the one ggz animation with mei and kiana in a battle?

its very intentional

[potent mason]

their costume designer probably faps to anything that has assymetry coz theyre really trying hard to apply their fetish on this game's costumes

[dusky trail]

and ty for that, sometime it is hard to get reference of the one not playable yet

like Raven there with her two legging slightly different than each other

[potent mason]

ye, stupid assymetry

[lament stump]

wtf is that sketch

how do you follow that so perfectly

[dusky trail]

not completely, i adjusting it while i draw too

you can just look at the right side hair

[lament stump]

that's..

a box ig

[dusky trail]

you ask her

why is she even have that pointy thing on her chest, who know

[spiral ridge]

It's so no one can give her hugs

[dusky trail]

her earring in that angle kinda look like the hair has it, not her ear

[lament stump]

ayo I'm clean af

[jaunty python]

well asymmetry makes for a more interesting and compelling design, i really can't blame them

[potent mason]

you dont need assymetry to create something interesting and compelling

[dusky trail]

just give them fishnet

[dusky trail]

also, you should learn skindentation

[jaunty python]

true, you don't, but asymmetry helps with creating such

[lament stump]

what's that

[dusky trail]

it is when clothe digging in the skin

[lament stump]

i got oneeee

bet there is just no skin on her

except thigs

[lament stump]

mine is sitting

[dusky trail]

and that is all you need

[lament stump]

so like

um

[dusky trail]

sitting actually create a lot of skindentation

as all the fat of your thigh will move up

[lament stump]

well that's way to hard to do now

i just want to finish this drawing and then start doing studies

I'm on day 7 of eula :)

[dusky trail]

meanwhile i almost done with this Mobius and Elysia

[lament stump]

well idk how to be faster

I'm taking so fucking long

every line taks like 2 minutes

long ones take like 5

[shadow nebula]

you get faster with practice. nothing wrong with your current speed

[dusky trail]

though you do have habit of hesitate on some part

like say, how many part of her you really want to draw?

[lament stump]

oh that

well um

it's all connected i take like so long, and to draw something that complexed...

[dusky trail]

you may look at char design and feel like you don't want to deal with it sometime or try to see how you can simplified it

so that may cause you some time lost

[lament stump]

you are in clip stodio for 10h chill

[shadow nebula]

I only spend an hour or two drawing a day I just forget to close the program lol

[lament stump]

eula has a rather complexed outfit and i didn't hold back on details

that much :)

[plain bane]

You make me wanna draw a detailed outfit instead of defaulting to "schoolgirl"

[dusky trail]

well even default school girl can get quite detail depend on how you shade them

[plain bane]

I don't even get to colour

Let alone shade

[shadow nebula]

me too

[dusky trail]

all those clothe wrinkle and floating skirt

fun~

[plain bane]

It does look fun

[lament stump]

it's not that you don't get to you just like lose interest

[shadow nebula]

true

[plain bane]

I haven't had time to actually try on anything

[dusky trail]

then time to do greyscale

[plain bane]

I sketch to keep up learning anatomy then I have to move on to my college project

[shadow nebula]

I just do a couple of quick studies and call it a day

[lament stump]

didn't you say you are 16

[plain bane]

Which happens to be the same thing I did last year 😕

But in also British, people in the UK start college at 16

[lament stump]

WTF

[plain bane]

[lament stump]

i never knew that

bro I still got 2 more yrs in hs

[plain bane]

Yh, though it's not much different to school

Im still being told to draw plants in my free time

[lament stump]

plants are cool ig

[plain bane]

Or draw people on the bus

Like a weirdo

[lament stump]

did you?

[dusky trail]

just personification the plant

[plain bane]

I have to draw this pile o stuff

[shadow nebula]

I used to have to do that too

[plain bane]

I'd rather be doing the photoshop lessons, I've done this stuff plenty

[shadow nebula]

my uni lets us do whatever we want in later years

[lament stump]

This too?

[plain bane]

I started to

Bit the person I was drawing kept looking back at me

[dusky trail]

just draw them all naked and put censored bar on they face

[lament stump]

If that person was a male your age you have the advantage

[plain bane]

I did that in aesson

Lesson

Second lesson into college we already had a model come in

[dusky trail]

so, i want to see that symbol on her back hand

but then

ty Mihoyo for being lazy with your sprite

[plain bane]

It's not there

[lament stump]

so what's up with that snake chick why's everyone on a hype train to draw her

[plain bane]

Looking at the model I can't really tell if it's on the other side of her hand eother

[dusky trail]

everyone love evil girl

[lone wagon]

Cuz she's really hot

Her design is hot

[lament stump]

you poping up like that is so funny lmao

[lone wagon]

I jist love her design

Yeah I'm random

[lament stump]

you finished your take on her?

[dusky trail]

nah, Mihoyo assymetry fetish strike again she her left hand only half glove

[plain bane]

Just hears about her and appears from the smoke

[lone wagon]

I've spent the past few days farming a game

And crying over how I can restart the hair

[plain bane]

I thought the hair looked good

[lone wagon]

I did not like it

[plain bane]

What about it?

[lone wagon]

I just didn't like it. It reminded me too much about how I did the hair on my last pieces and I did not like that piece one bit

[dusky trail]

people often like cool character design and bad guy usually have the most fun one

[plain bane]

I've never attempted a character like that

[dusky trail]

and then Mobius also have that twisted personality on her

[lone wagon]

I love those types of characters

[plain bane]

I like the look of them

I just don't dare try draw them

[spiral ridge]

I also just need to get back into drawing in general. So I though a good motivator would be the power of simp

[plain bane]

Your not wrong

[spiral ridge]

Advice for everyone who loves drawing: Don't stop for long periods of time when life overwhelms you

Don't do what I did

It was killing me for a while

[dusky trail]

draw char with complex design can be quite satisfying

well ya, that is why even when i'm in art block period, i would color some manga page at least

[plain bane]

I'll try it when I have more time on my hands

[dusky trail]

though i start color manga page because sometime ppl do colored just one page

and it is really bother me how they use the color for the skin

[lament stump]

weirdo

[dusky trail]

and then sometime they don't clear it up so it look really muddy

[plain bane]

Can't decide whether I wanna finish that project or just draw something I want

It's already late in

[dusky trail]

time to draw both

Fishine's style is quite unique after all~

hah so they covered that

well still stuff to adjust but that about it for today

[prime kelp]

kalpas actually has the best one but

they just wont show front

[dusky trail]

just draw him shirtless while sweating from all the heat

[hardy yew]

you see his ass instead

[whole cloak]

mobisus
I kinda like how the sketch turned out

the hand needs fixing but I don’t feel like doing it since I probably won’t color it anyway

[grave nymph]

sketches are nice~

[dusky trail]

"want to see me poke my eye with this finger claw?"

[potent mason]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-baby-goal-funny-face-gif-13347383

eye penetration tag readers be like...

[ocean flower]

[zinc grove]

@serene forum anyway

[serene forum]

the huge harmonic markers will indeed mess up your notes when you're fretting higher on the neck

[zinc grove]

the unrealism it's probably due to the fact that the artist doesn't play an istrument

[serene forum]

yeah

[zinc grove]

y lol

[serene forum]

imagine fretting on the first fret

and then

your strings touch that huge marker

[zinc grove]

plus, electric bass doesn't need armonic cass (?) (dunno english name)

[serene forum]

but the fact that there's a solid object

on the neck makes it unplayable

[lone wagon]

Everyone must be excited for mobius.

[serene forum]

and then there's the animes like K-On that just doesn't make sense

[dusky trail]

i probably can still watch season 2 K-on but season 1 just have so many snap stick...

[serene forum]

*plays an entire bassline while the animation shows 2 chord shapes

[sage canopy]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ZMs5a48SRWMyPWeUjG

[prime kelp]

i wanna see the booba window too

also praise husbandos

[hardy yew]

the husbandos in this game are nice but honkai will stay woman only unfortunately

[dusky trail]

not that they need to be playable for ppl to worship

[hardy yew]

you right

[lament stump]

You should make something longer

[lament stump]

Why not, she looks so god damn sick

That face expression is amazing

She looks like she wants to eat me alive

[potent mason]

akicar needs to jump on the mobius bandwagon, draw her too \ 🙂

[whole cloak]

tyy
yeah trying to go for that look
||her burst activation is literally “snake is coming to eat you”||

[lament stump]

I'm only on day 9 of Eula drawing

still a long way to go

mabye after that

[grave nymph]

oo

can't wait for you to draw her then 👀

[dusky trail]

then we will get to see a race to see if he finish Mobius first or she became playable in global first

[plain bane]

I kinda wanna draw mobius but I have too much to do rn

Maybe after global release

[lament stump]

how much time do I got?

[dusky trail]

more than a month

[grave nymph]

m

like, 6 weeks

[lament stump]

that's not enough

I mean

hm

it's gonna be a tough race

cuz that girl has a complexed outfit

and I also wanna do studies

[sage canopy]

I have https://youtu.be/5nTjnaVR5W4

[lament stump]

9min

damn

[dusky trail]

just start selling hugging pillow like Silver

[lament stump]

tbh I would love to sell my art one day

[sage canopy]

Took me months to make that 💀

[lament stump]

would've been better with voices

like you if you are a male

if you are not then idk males don't exist here

your friends

etc

and it would've been better, still interesting tho

[sage canopy]

Yeah, too bad I’m low on resources, but I got them resolve

After November, I’m going to immediately start working on ep 3

[lament stump]

gonna be voices in there?

[sage canopy]

Depends if I can find someone who wants to do it

[lament stump]

good luck

[sage canopy]

Yeah, imma need the same luck those harem kings have 💀

[lament stump]

does that mean there gonna be a lot of females?

[sage canopy]

I do plan on adding a female in ep 3, but that’s a secret

Also

Bleeding death is gonna be mostly males,

Because plot 🙃

[lament stump]

then wdym harem king luck

gay harem king

?

[sage canopy]

🙃

[lament stump]

or a females harem

[sage canopy]

Hehe

[lament stump]

harem animes are cool

you see a guy that gets 10 girls while you can't get 1

[grave nymph]

[sage canopy]

I’d prefer bromance

That’s what bleeding death gonna be

[lament stump]

and this new anime called girlfriend girlfriend (a guy that has 2 hot gfs and a 3rd hot chick is crushing on him)

[sage canopy]

Bromance > Romance

You sure have interesting tastes

[lament stump]

it's not as interesting as some have here

especially not as interesting as the armpit girl taste

[sage canopy]

Huh?

[lament stump]

well that's not that weird

just interesting

[dusky trail]

meanwhile i just watch Roommate

[lament stump]

sure you do

[dusky trail]

anime where they using your POV is fun

[lament stump]

wdym your

oh

that's like playing a game

and I have never seen one of thoes animes

[dusky trail]

https://anilist.co/anime/98238/Room-Mate/

then go watch it

[lament stump]

I'll give it a try tonight

[lament stump]

chibi

:/

[dusky trail]

almost done

still need to decided if i want to go for that fishnet pattern or not

well, will leave that for later

just gonna go play for awhile

[potent mason]

go for it

just create 1 small fishnet then duplicate this as many as you want then warp the thing to follow the curves of the clothes

[potent mason]

mihoyo with their assymetry again

[hardy yew]

the assymetry is triggering me

[potent mason]

its like when you throw your used clothes in one place, everypart is different but they're jumbled together

[whole cloak]

ottos new design has void archives vibes

it’s a great design but his face

[hardy yew]

idk how to feel, i like Void Archives, but his body gives off Otto vibes, even it's personality changed ever since joining Otto

[whole cloak]

Void archives is in one of otto’s soulium bodies so

[hardy yew]

i think everyone noticed that Bronya and Seele were fighting Otto clones

[potent mason]

🤔 now i realize why otto's so deadset on reviving kallen

he just wants to use his several bodies to gangbang her

[modest wave]

Vtuber art!

[lament stump]

pog

[hardy yew]

Uhh small question since I don’t know where to ask this but is it okay to send honkai amv links in #honkai-fan-art ?

[frank sundial]

Probably just dm a mod, but I personally think its fine

[hardy yew]

Oki doki thank you

[frank sundial]

by definition to me, a creation is a form of art which makes me think it should be fine

but I am no mod so what do I know

[lament stump]

THIS LINE IS IMPOSSIBLE

10 MINUTES

STILL NOT CLOSE

[plain bane]

Which?

[lament stump]

that boob outline one

[dusky trail]

you mean it is not curve enough?

[lament stump]

i mean it's hard to draw

in single stroke

20min in still not close

[dusky trail]

why do you need to draw it in single stroke?

as long you draw it close together, you can always draw multi-stroke then adjust it so it match

[lament stump]

that will look bad

it will have a bump cuz i can't fix it so it looks like a single stroke

[whole cloak]

I’d suggest doing lots of small lines like shik said and then cleaning it up with eraser

that’s what I usually do and it comes out decently clean

[lament stump]

hmm

that part is off butttttt

hair will cluch it

[dusky trail]

then why not either shorter the hair or change the shape?

[potent mason]

-.-

when drawing boobs you dont create 1 single stroke, you create multiple little strokes that will eventually form into a boob

[lament stump]

i wll put the hair over the boob

[potent mason]

🤔 ye thats fine, you can draw them intertwined then just erase the uneeded lines after

[sage canopy]

https://giphy.com/gifs/lxbf7wAGsqvP5MESlw

[lament stump]

so eyes hair hand other hand and leg left to do

god damn

i hope i can do that tomorrow cuz it's saturday so mabye

[dusky trail]

@potent mason well, i tried

[potent mason]

nc, fishnets are sexy'

[dusky trail]

would like to make it thicker but i guess i can try shade it to make it deep later

[lament stump]

THIS ANIME IS SO COOL

[lone wagon]

i think i have finished it

But idk

Some parts still look messy

[plain bane]

Looks good imo

[lone wagon]

I think it needs a bit of polishing still

[plain bane]

Never gonna be perfect though

[lone wagon]

Some parts just looks a little messy just wantes to make it a little smoother

[plain bane]

Ti's just something to improve later

[dusky trail]

i would do the tail part of her a bit darker at least

as that part suppose to be behind her and would be in her shadow

[lone wagon]

Gonna change now

[supple sorrel]

NEAAT

[deep wolf]

rate please

[whole cloak]

The N in strikin is too thin in one place
I have no lettering experience so I can’t help

[lone wagon]

done as much as i can

im done now

no more

[supple sorrel]

post it on twitter?

[hardy yew]

[lone wagon]

I don't have a twitter

That's why i posted it here

[supple sorrel]

ah, didnt you say you wanted to make money from art? iirc ofc. twitter seems like a good place to gain some audience

[lone wagon]

Not yet. I want to get better first

I don't feel confident enough yet so I'll carry on improving

I don't want to sell something I dont think is good enough to sell to others.

[supple sorrel]

ic I get that

[lone wagon]

I'm trying to stay away from twitshit for as long as possible

Ik ill eventually have to go there

[supple sorrel]

maybe try pixiv if you dont like twitter

[lone wagon]

If i post my art on twitter there's gonna be someone who says that my art is like offensive or soemthing

[supple sorrel]

nah it's not like that

ik twitter has a bad rep for this but that's the vocal minority that stands out

I've personally never had anyone on honkaitwt tell me my art is offensive

[frank sundial]

its usually the artist circle that's pretty close knit based from my findings, barely any drama or throwing hands at each other

although i havent seen someone openly saying "oh your art looks like it belongs in the toilet" or some degree

on twitter

[supple sorrel]

yeah honkaitwt isnt that big, you have to go genshin and jump on trends and stay as consistent as you can with your content if you want to pull in big numbers

the more people see your content the more chances you have of encountering weirdos

[lone wagon]

Lol they're funny. I don't mind them but I just don't wanna have to deal with emails from twitter that tells me someone tried to report me with some random German law for no reason

Eventually I'll make a twitter though. But when I also have more art

It's sad if there's like 1 art on there and everything is blank

[supple sorrel]

I dont think youll have to deal with that, I'm in contact with an artist whos pretty popular on genshintwt and theyve never mentioned anything like that

[lone wagon]

I have seen people attack genshin artists before

Especially if they're drawing Kaeya

[supple sorrel]

but yeah its fine if youre not in the mindset for it rn lol its cool to not worry that the thing you spent hours on only got like 3 likes

[lone wagon]

And the skin tone looks liek a shade lighter

Suddenly that artist becomes racist.

If you're wondering my domain is YouTube and I see a load of of artists talking about it

Since I watch a lot of artist channels

[supple sorrel]

well ofc the youtubers are only gonna talk about the spicy stuff

[lone wagon]

Yeah the stuff I see aboru twitter are really bad xD YouTube people really likes to roast twitter

I recorded me doing this fanart though so maybe I'll make it into a speed paint

Atm I recorded it so that I can watch to see where I went wrong

[frank sundial]

twitter algorithm sucks

[supple sorrel]

it really does

almost all my 1 hour shitposts get more likes than the stuff I spend real effort on

monke like haha joke ig

need sleep now, gn

[frank sundial]

have you seen this tweet about how weird twitter works?

https://twitter.com/hanghul/status/1433412874085576704?s=20

🌈мay (@hanghul)

artists,
words like сommissiоn, pаypаl etc - will deboоst your twееts
links to other websites - will deboоst your twееts
hashtags unless trending - will debоost your twееts
even text, (at)s and such - will debоost your twееts

witnessed and tested, maybe it helps someone.

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Twitter · Sep 2, 2021, 12:53 PM

alot of artists that use tags are actually working against them

according to this post

good night

[lone wagon]

I don't use many social media. I'm an odd one ik.

The onyl one I use are discord and line

[whole cloak]

i have insta and discord
I don’t post on insta anymore tho since algorithm

[lone wagon]

Oh right nvm I do use Instagram but it's private and only use for real life

Friends

Since I post pics of myself on there

But i have like 4 posts XD

[lone wagon]

It went from that to this

Such a huge diff

I'm so glad I'm finished finally

[spiral ridge]

Congrats on finishing it

That's a freat in and of itself for people like me

[lone wagon]

Nvm I'm not finished

Wtf went wrong here?

[austere cove]

Her hands didn't exist

[hardy yew]

this is discussion chat so im just gonna say

i hate su so much

who gave him the right to be so hot

[lament stump]

Hawt

[whole cloak]

how do I spoiler an image

lemme try this

ER part 2 story spoilers so don’t look too closely

this was done pretty fast as speed practice

I could render it and clean up composition and values hm
meh

[soft fjord]

I made Goliath but in his armor from his homeplanet, The Depths

[forest crystal]

no offense but i dont think this is honkai art

[hardy yew]

this is art discussion

who said it had to be honkai

[forest crystal]

oh shit true

but i was also talking about what he posted in #honkai-fan-art

[vagrant dune]

guys help with the pose

[potent mason]

the sketch is still too vague to make up what you want to happen

give it more shape

[dusky trail]

all it look like is Yae cheating on Kallen with Ai-chan

[potent mason]

here, this should help

[grave nymph]

ooo

📝

[soft fjord]

@forest crystal I'M JUST ALL OUT OF IDEAS, OKAY!!??

[potent mason]

chill, you're free to post your art wips here, it doesnt matter if its non-hi3 but #honkai-fan-art is only for hi3 fanarts

[jaunty python]

some rough concept sketches of honkai oc

[dusky trail]

need more battlesuit

[jaunty python]

yeah, just some rough sketches, but i wanted to get a feel for her face and key features (pig tail hands, weird head set thing, funky upper torso clothing, etc.)
my idea for her was an IMA S rank ice dps, with another one of my OCs being a QUA A rank ice support

[dusky trail]

Mihoyo already have ice/cryo fetish and now you add even more

give fire some love

[jaunty python]

ice has the least amount of battlesuits in the game tho???

nyx, HB, that one himeko, SS, HoR, AKA… am i missing one?

oh

sixth serenade

[lusty breach]

Gyakusshin miko

[jaunty python]

that too

wait isn’t it meme

memento

[lusty breach]

Oh

F

Hahaha

Sakura

I forgot

[jaunty python]

either way, least amount of battlesuits

[lusty breach]

[dusky trail]

there also Snow Snipe Bronya that nobody use

[jaunty python]

that’s what i meant by SS

SS, then sixth serenade

[dusky trail]

~~but sixth serenade also SS =3= ~~

[jaunty python]

i realize that

[lost wagon]

yooo looking great.

good color choices

https://twitter.com/zodiac_ws/status/1439106918362980354

十二獣Zodiac (@zodiac_ws)

#witchsanctuary Chapter 19!!! [5/7]
page 14-16

Mayas curse.

#manga #mangaart #drawings

Twitter · Sep 18, 2021, 6:00 AM

here's weekly pages from my manga c:

[plain bane]

The honkai ads are back

I haven't had one in a couple days now

[potent mason]

changed the mouth a bit, now shes biting her lips '-')

[dusky trail]

should just let her mouth close to her pit

[potent mason]

i can make her snake tongue lick it

ofc im kidding

...or am i?! bwahahahhah

[dusky trail]

add some lightning along the line certainly make them more fun to look at

[potent mason]

https://tenor.com/view/a2-lick-cute-gif-15012068

anoda one

[dusky trail]

where nip

[potent mason]

👀 when colored

[dusky trail]

the dull eye color type like Mobius always make it hard for you to tell what kind of color they use

[supple sorrel]

you really like this kind of pose

[potent mason]

yes i love it coz it shows the asset i like

but that pose only occurs when they give me the freedom to choose the pose

[dusky trail]

i actually enjoy the slightly raise your hand up just enough to see the pit more

when you raise the arm too high, it just create a more smooth surface

but raise your arm parallel like this can create some "meaty" look

and that is why Ooyari is one of my fav artist

[potent mason]

petition to redraw your mobius's arm to show the goodies

[dusky trail]

nah, she is a snake so she best show off her hip

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-crmjGXsAEnrP5?format=jpg&name=large

specially those fishnet

[potent mason]

I'm excited tO COLOR THOSE

FFS KEYBOARD

caps is being paranoid rn

[lone wagon]

I'm so gonna whale for mobius if 8 can't farm enough

I'm sorry seele

[grave nymph]

[prime kelp]

yes embrace the mobius

[lone wagon]

I've fallen into the mobius hole since the first time she appeared

[dusky trail]

evil char + green make a fun combo

[prime kelp]

well mobius isnt my fav i prefer males more

[lone wagon]

But there's no playable male characters in honkai

[dusky trail]

as long you don't count APHO that is

[prime kelp]

that doesnt mean i will stop simping

their lore exists, and thats enough for me

[dusky trail]

at least they have sprite in the game now

and depend on what they gonna do with it, the other 2 upcoming Honkai's games may have other male chars too

though i feel like because of GGZ global closed down, some became rather paranoid and think Honkai 3rd may close when those 2 games come out

even though CN and JP server of GGZ is still ongoing

[lone wagon]

Didn't mihoyo make a husbando game?

[dusky trail]

https://play-lh.googleusercontent.com/bsP7wPZW9GydpQ19hsJ6GC7poLVSPxjZ5Bzoj2ZC74mDPF1bKJCTxAAkxLKp-quDtGIG=w1920-h937-rw

[lone wagon]

Yeah this one

Reminds me of mystic messenger and I was obsessed with that game

Jumin han erggghhhh

That might be spoilers

[dusky trail]

mostly done i guess, just need some "finish touch" to wrap it up

[potent mason]

\ 🙂 /

[lone wagon]

Idk if it's the angle but mobius hand looks strange to me

[whole cloak]

I feel like mobius hand is a bit big too

[dusky trail]

probably because it has more "meat" there

[lone wagon]

Idk. Elysia's hands looks pretty good. The shape makes it look liek tis apart of the arm that's been bent

[whole cloak]

also the area where elysia’s left boob ends should probably have another layer of shadow and have the lines curve in more? Her top is tight and right now it looks like an almost smooth transition from top of chest to stomach

Idk if it’s clear what I’m saying

[dusky trail]

well you don't really need another layer of shadow

just few wrinkle on her underboob

[lone wagon]

I would've just copied and pasted elysia's hand and flipped it

[dusky trail]

but ya, i know what you mean

[whole cloak]

Not necessarily another layer of shadow just bending the lines on the top more would work

[lone wagon]

It depends on the artstyle

You can do it either way

[whole cloak]

yeah the shading depends on that I agree

[dusky trail]

i rather double shade

as for the hand, well it is no fun to just copy/paste, since i want to draw it in an angle to see Elyisa's palm that way

that is why i don't pay much attention to Mobius' hand

[lone wagon]

But you can see both that way

[dusky trail]

but i want to be cheeky and draw the metal part behind her hand~~

[lone wagon]

I'm lazy so I'd do that xD

[dusky trail]

i actually want to do the "two person form a heart-shaped symbol with they hands" but~ come up with different gag

so i make them do it that way

[lone wagon]

Lol okay. But I think the shape isn't hand shape. We'll the fingers are good it's just the big at the bottom

[dusky trail]

and now i have to go in the game to get they symbol =3=

[lone wagon]

Like you said shes thicc

[dusky trail]

it is one of those "meh i will fix it later" turn into "do i really want to bother fix this...?" kinda of situation

well i will do it later maybe after i get some reference signet

[lone wagon]

Lol

I've noticed a lot of people have that mindset

I guess I'm weird. If I notice something that looks wrong I would want to fix immediately. If I can't fix it immediately I can't even sleep cuz i want to fix it so badly.

I want to fix the arm with the mobius piece since yesterday and I cant wait to finish work so I can fix it

[lament stump]

only eyes and hair left the finish this stupid line art :)

[dusky trail]

well there also the "maybe it will look different after i colored" kind of thought

[potent mason]

when you supress your sneeze so hard

[grave nymph]

and then you go, HACHOO

[stiff junco]

[grave nymph]

double send

[potent mason]

internet went bonkers

when the ac is broken and its the middle of summer

when someone calls your from above but you have stiff neck

[dusky trail]

all combine is just look like someone try to do a number 2

a heavy one

[potent mason]

when you go to space but you forgot theres no oxygen there

yandere

O.o" i accidentally made a cat smile instead

[hardy yew]

[dusky trail]

well it sure took awhile to make this gag...

[plucky bobcat]

[dusky trail]

[plucky bobcat]

But i love it

[potent mason]

I choose rori

[lament stump]

snake called me oni chan

i don't like that so pink hair girl is my choise

wait

she said something one chan like too

fuck

[gilded crag]

Wip

[potent mason]

gura 😮

[dusky trail]

dem legs thou

[lament stump]

what's your tought on Vtubers?

imo they are weird af

ye

[dusky trail]

at least some of them have really good design

[lusty lion]

6S*

[potent mason]

i dont like them coz in my standpoint, ppl watch youtuber cams for their reactions on what they're doing but the live 2d generates face expression like someone just got a stroke and their facial features are paralyzed and can barely move them

but i dont hold anything against fanarts of them, they're an entire separate medium

just like how i hate astolfo as a character but i dont mind seeing fanarts of him

[frank sundial]

If you have a really good rigger, you can make it to where it copies every inch of your face to the t

girl_dm and silvervale are good examples

other than that, I can see silver's point on the face looking stiff

[lament stump]

fan arts are nice cuz the popular Vtubers have very cool caracter designs

[frank sundial]

I am surprised that huge companies like hololive don't got the best talent for rigging, not to say there aren't good ones but if you got people who can make it to where the mouth movements are very realistic, then its the best

[potent mason]

also, they're an artist's hard work, you can argue that hey vtubers are made by artist as well but they're made to replace someone else's face, for them to hide behind a 2d avatar but unfortunately the avatar just acnt create a genuine expression that a real human face can and thats how vtuber faction falls flat for me

[frank sundial]

it really depends on the quality of the rig

[potent mason]

even anime animators can produce different facial expressions its just that live 2d's technology just isnt there yet

[frank sundial]

oh its there, trust me as I stated above

I always look for the ones that have better tracking and better rigged models and I only found very few

its doable but alot of work

yeah its easy money plus alot of people that commission the work don't mind the paralyzed face

plus the model's art is appealing so alot of audience look past the stiff face

[potent mason]

im open-minded, maybe if the live2d becomes better in the near future to the point that i enjoy looking at their expression on what they're doing then i might like it

[frank sundial]

silver, yoo should become vtuber and do art streams

[potent mason]

hahaha

[frank sundial]

a much cheaper option is pngtuber if you ever heard about it

its literally just a .png avatar that bounces everytime the person speaks

[potent mason]

first time hearing about it

[frank sundial]

like I can literally take your art, adjust it to discord or some medium and there you go

some people choose that route because of cost

[potent mason]

hmm now i can just picture a chibi just jumping around in a stream

[hardy yew]

context is key

[dusky trail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/pqonih/so_whats_it_gonna_be_captain/

Yo Kevin"

"What?"

"Can I borrow your sword"

"What for?"

"Stabbing myself in the chest"

"Why?"

Points at Mobius and Elysia

this is why i love reddit

[lone wagon]

Id like to do streams one day. Idk if I'll go for virtual though sinc dim pretty lazy. Idm doing face cams since I'm not teribble looking

Terrible

[frank sundial]

I never streamed but I doubt the setup to get your vtuber model ready takes that long

main reason vtubers are being the way they are is for anonymity purposes

[lament stump]

is her face weird?

[hardy yew]

try to make it more visible where her chin ends, the hair may make it look like the chin continues there too

and adding some ears will define the face too :))

other than that it’s good good

[lament stump]

wait

i wasn't even asking about thoes things, does that mean the eyes are fine????????

i feel like they are somehow hmm

mabye i gotta stop looking at her and check it in 15min

[lament stump]

okay i like em now

[lament stump]

I'm not good at them :(

they are so weird

[hardy yew]

some circle and a chin line indicating that she has ears in the first place is all you need

her chin is sharper than my pencil dude

I mean this part

I mean jawline 😭😭

[lament stump]

i can fix that but like hmm

[hardy yew]

not chin sorry

[lament stump]

i like it

[lament stump]

the hair goes over all that soooo

[hardy yew]

her head looks a bit too choppy

like no cheek fat

smth like that

her jawline just disappears

too stiff(?) dunno the word

[lament stump]

yea I'll make her chin less sharp okayyy

[frank sundial]

I think you only do the sharp part of the chin if she is fully facing sideways, but I think the chin might look better with this

[hardy yew]

some curve around the cut off on the right will indicate the fact that her head isn’t a triangle

[lament stump]

I'm glad that it's an easy fix

[hardy yew]

[hardy yew]

yep

its going well though!

[hardy yew]

^^^^

a quick few lines make a whole difference

[lament stump]

wanna see her fully?

or did i send it

hm

:)

not happy about some parts but eh

[stiff junco]

[lament stump]

um

okay not gonna be as easy as i tought

[hardy yew]

looks so much better

continue a tiny bit and it will be alllll gud

[lament stump]

continue where

it's conufising

[hardy yew]

@dusky trail someone made a meme from your art https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/pqriwc/birb_signets_gang_assemble/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[lament stump]

okay i think

it's okay

no ear cuz hair is very cool thing :)

[hardy yew]

dude i hate ears

hair is a blessing

[lament stump]

yeeee

[proven nest]

ahh, i didn't see this <_> it's the huion kamvas 13

[spiral ridge]

So, is the arm looking ok now? I realise I'm not a good judge of that. If so, do you prefer this one...

Or this one, guys?

Dunno, never really had second opinions on stuff before

I appreciate the help

[lament stump]

The 2nd one is better

The first one looks weird ofter the shoulder

And idk if the whole arm is a little too short or no

[spiral ridge]

Thanks for the help

I'll see what I can do. Not sure if it'll be today

[frank sundial]

I agree the second one looks better

[jaunty python]

second one is definitely better

[whole cloak]

I think the second is better but the deltoid is still too short and slightly off

[dusky trail]

well the armpit is lower than the boob is still look rather odd

[grave nymph]

I wonder what’s a good way to practice drawing the body in various perspectives

I think I’ll actually have the time to draw later, after doing homework at least

[dusky trail]

just do this

[grave nymph]

Ah, so take a pose then draw the pose in various angles

naruhodo

I guess the hard part will be finding the references huh

[dusky trail]

or even do a photoshot kind of feel

or if you really have that much freetime

the "random poses i want to do" kind of set

[grave nymph]

o

[dusky trail]

so ya, plenty of way to torture yourself if you want to draw multi-poses

[grave nymph]

I should try to do a pose a day

even if it’s just a sketch

ofc I’d also ask here for feedback

most of the time it would probably be about anatomy w

[dusky trail]

one pose a day challenge, let go~

[grave nymph]

I hope it would be consistent w

I also have to actually practice drawing the legs - feet part of the body

and hands too