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#art-discussion-and-wip
potent mason
supple sorrel
you need to know how arms work pretty well
lament stump
yea and i just started out so i stopped
supple sorrel
especially how the shoulder attaches to the body
potent mason
If you know how to draw bone sketches this should be one hell of a boring pose to do
And bone sketching is the most basic sketch to do
plain bane
It's really scuffed to don't take the actual sketch too literal
But those are the main points I found to be off
Hope it helps in some form
supple sorrel
If you know how to draw bone sketches this should be one hell of a boring pose t...
I dunno about that, I've always had trouble connecting the deltoid in these kind of poses
plain bane
With time it becomes easier
supple sorrel
shoulder shapes in general are really hard to get right
plain bane
Definitely knowing bine structure helps
supple sorrel
because subtle details add a lot of emotion to the character
plain bane
Yeah,wouldn't dive into that as a beginner
supple sorrel
nah it's cool to fail
weary schooner
Dont give up take this sketch as a learning moment
plain bane
If you really wanna have a go at other poses I'd recommend studying the skeleton and muscle structures
I studied that in my last yeah of school
It helps alot
Whenever I draw a pose I always draw it as a basic skeleton first now 
supple sorrel
it depends on one's end goal
plain bane
Creepy as it is
supple sorrel
I studied proko for a while but my end goal was to draw anime girls and doing the "hard anatomy" that he was teaching was getting me too slowly to where I wanted to go
but I picked up speed really fast when I found this playlist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BE5lgBgcFM&list=RDCMUCqerFtuc6nZ5NnJrsl0epww&index=22
plain bane
I doubt I'll ever be able to learn from others, I have seen and tried a bunch of channels but I never really got it till I did it by my own methods
supple sorrel
yeah there are very few channels that actually teach you good stuff
plain bane
I struggle to listen and/or read subtitles for things, I cant sit thought it
supple sorrel
bro that's such a mood
I started learning unity a few months back but I just couldn't sit through the tutorials
they were so fucking boring
plain bane
I know ||insert sonic shrug emoji||
supple sorrel
I started learning unity a few months back but I just couldn't sit through the t...
but at the same time, I couldn't just work in a vacuum cause I suck, so what can you do 
time to suffer
supple sorrel
it's great to keep a 50/50 ratio of doing stuff that you like and actual studies
plain bane
For example, what's a base colour, most the time I just shade everything and forget ab it
Does give my pencil drawings a interesting effect though i guess
It's all just layers
The colour range is a bit much
I would have examples but school decided they wanted to keep my projects
supple sorrel
o art school?
plain bane
Nah, secondary
I'm just thus September going to art school
I skipped the other levels
supple sorrel
I see
I like seeing what ppl in art school do
I used to not agree with what they teach cause over here they make you do value studies over value studies with watercolor
and not really teach you anything about figure drawing
but the folks that I know have now learned to paint and combine color and value in such cool ways
while studies and coloring are the bane of my existence now 
plain bane
I'm only really going for the fact I have to be in eduction till I'm 18 and it's an opportunity to learn new materials
As it is now, if you can use it like a pencil I can do it
supple sorrel
I'm only really going for the fact I have to be in eduction till I'm 18 and it's...
ye learning something new is always useful
plain bane
Yeah, I'm especially interested in painting and sculpting
lament stump
Hope it helps in some form
thanks a lot
supple sorrel
actually a question, going to art school isn't the same as watching youtube tutorials xD?
plain bane
Did it help woth the posing?
supple sorrel
like, you still have to wait for the teachers to talk
and then you get to draw, I'm imagining
lament stump
Did it help woth the posing?
yeah
plain bane
The school I chose is quite loose on the talking
It's moreso experiment and experiencing new things for the first year and putting all that into practice the second
Also I'm glad it helped, man I never thought writing woth my finger would be be difficult
lament stump
I'm not in any art school or plan to be so things like that help a lot
supple sorrel
It's moreso experiment and experiencing new things for the first year and puttin...
I see
I couldn't survive drawing this way honestly
plain bane
Honestly, that's half the reason to why I passed 
I drew a bunch of sub par things showing all my ideas instead of writing about it
supple sorrel
I heard somewhere that talented ppl hit a wall at some point and have to go and actually learn the basics, but I've hit that wall basically from the beginning and have been learning from others' work and materials ever since I started drawing seriously
plain bane
Then the main ones being fully focused with a bit of explaining technical
supple sorrel
:o nice
plain bane
I had made sure to learn all the basic techniques etc in my lower years
Then it's basically a show off contest this year for grades so
Since they graded stuff this year by comparing art
And the writing
supple sorrel
I had made sure to learn all the basic techniques etc in my lower years
I'm curiuos, what did you learn as the basics?
maiden fiber
Dunno what to say-
plain bane
Considering I focus pencils, I learned all the basics such as sketching shading and colour theory in my first year, second year was focusing techniques like pontilism ||can't spell it||, cross hatching etc while also learning to vary my values and use cold/warm tones for shading such as how I used cool purples to shade darker scenes etc and my last year of basic study being putting all that together and starting to learn about perspective
The rest I've missed being picked up along the way in my year 10 and 11
It does help that I had a vague grasp of all this before going to secondary aswell I guess
I have a strong grasp of most techniques etc I'd like to think
That's a whole large block of text
How did I not misspell anything
supple sorrel
It does help that I had a vague grasp of all this before going to secondary aswe...
ahh I have no idea how your school system works xD
that was an interesting read though
plain bane
It wasn't the school system
They just gave up trying to get me to do it
I am fully self taught
supple sorrel
I am fully self taught
where did you learn all this from then?
plain bane
I'd seen all the old projects
Basically snooping
||I was the weird kid who would study others art like it was the end of the world||
plain bane
Ti's the ignorant way to learn in school
supple sorrel
nah cause you don't have to rely on teachers giving you bad marks to motivate you
to be self taught means to teach yourself self discipline as well
which helps a lot especially in faculties and college
plain bane
That's assuming I last the 2 year course
Knowing I usually do whatever the Heck i want
supple sorrel
hey sometimes restrictions bring out the most creativity
plain bane
Yeah like when I was drawing a rhinos horn while we were supposed to be studying bees
supple sorrel
do schools over there let you specialize in stuff you like from an early age
cause over here we only have 1 hour class of art a week lol and it's usually treated as a joke
plain bane
||I'm not actually from "over there" I just have an na honkai acc ||
supple sorrel
yeah over there where you're from lol
plain bane
British as it gets
For my school we had in the first 3 years this carousel bs
Basically you get 2 "special" subjects outside of English maths science and a language
They rotate around every term
And it's like 10 hours each every term
supple sorrel
how long does a term last?
supple sorrel
:o
supple sorrel
o I see
plain bane
In my opinion you didn't get enough hours in the "special" subjects to learn much
If you wanted to go places in it it took alot of working at home
supple sorrel
yeah that's not a lot of classes
plain bane
10 a term
And then you also have the other classes
So next term it'd be completely different
If your lucky you'll be in the group that gets 20 lessons
If not only 10
In the whole school year
supple sorrel
art high schools get a lot more though right
plain bane
If you don't have to retake anything you get a little over half a school day
So that's 3 hours of art every week day
supple sorrel
huh that's still quite small
plain bane
For a 2 year course yeah
Specially with me only taking half the week
3/5 days
All half days
The rest of it will be fully self taught
supple sorrel
welp still gotta do normal school ig
stiff junco
what program are you using
lament stump
another gesture practice
this one was easy, I'm scared about the ones looking downwards
stiff junco
this one was easy, I'm scared about the ones looking downwards
do you need some help with it?
lament stump
not rn, I'll do one gesture a day
I'll ask for help if I can't do it once the time comes, ty for asking tho
plain bane
I like drawing people looking down
It makes my life easier
Not as much focus on faces
Drawing people looking up is hard
Usually struggle with the chin
prime kelp
another gesture practice
u should focus on anatomy. try to making a body from squares, or simple shapes so u could draw a human body really easily
and try to check up yt tutorials than random pics
lament stump
ye I checked a lot of yt vids and they helped a lot
prime kelp
for example in this pic u used a reference right
lament stump
also I do gesture practice and like 1 full bode reference daily, i do 1 face a day and that full body across few days
lament stump
for example in this pic u used a reference right
yea but that turned out..
let me show you one I'm proud of
prime kelp
yea but that turned out..
let me tell u why, in that pic perspective is used
lament stump
shading isn't good but I like it
lament stump
let me tell u why, in that pic perspective is used
wdym perspective?
prime kelp
well no one is perfect at art, but this one just has one its eyes a bit too faraway?
lament stump
well no one is perfect at art, but this one just has one its eyes a bit too fara...
I JUST TOUGHT THAT, didn't see it till now
lament stump
and I think it's not cuz that eye is too farr it's cuz left chin if you can call it that is not as narrow as it should be
like in the original drawing
prime kelp
hmm, true
supple sorrel
the hair shading is nice
dusty ocean
<:YanPeek:675883023547236363> what program are you using
Blender!
stiff junco
Blender!
ah i see, very cool! i was wondering since it looked like pmx/mmd for a sec lol
fair cradle
…
bright copper
hardy yew
LMFAO
grave nymph
oooo
trim apex
Ah i see
stiff junco
hardy yew
I’m trying out a new artstyle, do you guys think this is okay?
plain bane
Which looks better?
Hairs basically done just deciding if I want the extra locks of hair
shadow nebula
first one looks better
plain bane
Alright, thankyou!
potent mason
i cant tell the difference\
plain bane
On the second I added the extra locks of hair I usually do to my chibis
Isn't very noticeable
potent mason
ye ive been staring at it for a while and i wasnt sure if it was an accidental reupload or there aqre actually difference between them
plain bane
I'm starting to have second thought myself now
Uh
I'll check
They're there
It's just those
There are a bunch over the hair
potent mason
i know shes from a game but i cant help but see similarities on a char from zombieland saga named sakura hehe
plain bane
That's because it's the collab outfit woth that game
potent mason
oh no wonder...
plain bane
You ain't seeing things
plain bane
Jesus I'm not looking forward to uploading this when it's done
I just uploaded it as a wip and it took an hour
plain bane
How does the shading on the face look?
Would love some pointers rn I do struggle a bit with skin shading
potent mason
face shape became weird because of the hair at the sides and mouth shape needs rework
plain bane
I assume you mean the lower ones over the face?
potent mason
and theres way more hair in thebangs part that it covered half of her face compared to the reference
this part of the shape
plain bane
Okay, I'll need a while to figure out how to fix that
potent mason
notice that the bend starts on the jawbone not at the cheek
potent mason
yes but bring the bend lower a bit more
plain bane
potent mason
something like this though you also need to adjust eye position
plain bane
I should've looked at this stuff before I started shading
potent mason
theres always next time, no biggie
lament stump
hair shading looks very nice
plain bane
Thankyou
Decided I wanted to change the skin shading and went a bit more purple toned with more hard shadows
I had uploaded this as a wip an hour ago
I really am not looking forward to uploading the final piece
hardy yew
Could I ask how to shade and draw hair?
hardy yew
I’d just like to know how you do it, I don’t mind not getting the exact technique but something similar could work out if you’re okay with me learning how you do it
right now my shading looks slightly plain here and there
plain bane
Ah I see, it may be difficult without the custom brushes I use but what I tend to do is shade my hair lock by lock
stiff junco
plain bane
Pick out your darks and lights
stiff junco
color theory
hardy yew
sure
plain bane
It's a bit sped up though
The whole first part is me extracting my traditional sketch etc
Don't worry about that
It's how I section off the locks after that set up the shading
plain bane
Yw, hope it helps
Feel free to ask about certain parts
It is a bit hard to follow the fast parts
hardy yew
aight
frank sundial
https://ibispaint.com/art/938614461/
This is amazing..the hair detail is very nice
plain bane
Thankyou 
ruby yoke
jolly galleon
lol the genshin add killed me
lament stump
does it look okay?
i mean like proportion wise
and position wise
i made the head not look down i think
will fix booba and all that other things in the next sketch
hardy yew
yeah just keep in mind not to steal the entire art piece, by that i mean like
if you're practicing it's best to altar some of the original ref's clothes or something about it so it doesn't look like a complete copy
^ this is just my personal opinion feel free to do whatever you like
lament stump
if you're practicing it's best to altar some of the original ref's clothes or so...
yea i was thinking of doing that for this piece like change the hair face expesion and clothes but if it's just for studing i think there is no problem of not changing anything cuz I'll not post it anywhere and it's a nice way to practice
lament stump
I have time and i want to practice a lot and get better so will do!
plain bane
Honestly I'd like to write over it
But
My hands hurt
I hope you can learn visually
Ti's also a bit scuffed
plain bane
Not really, but the compliment is appreciated
I'm still a beginner to this side of art
I get things wrong too
north kettle
I just wanted to post a little sketch (I will probably never finish this one)
plain bane
It's a shame you won't finish it, I love the design
lament stump
so i didn't trace over it cuz i feel like that's not practice but i got this
booba and thighs are just off and idk how to fix
ik how to fix booba but thighs are confusing
north kettle
It's a shame you won't finish it, I love the design
I literally never finish my drawings...
plain bane
ik how to fix booba but thighs are confusing
With the thighs I wouldn't curve it like you did with the left, if you look on my drawing I had an extra curve to show a bot of the hip, doing this also helps me personally place the thighs in general
The arms could also use thickening out, they look too thin for the body
lament stump
alr I'll fix thoes and make the hip less curvy
plain bane
It has definitely improved though
lament stump
wraith vault
this is my first digital drawing....does the sketch look ok?
dont mind the face lol
potent mason
color next
grave venture
not the best art ive ever made, but atleast i actually did it 
(hof sketch)
plain bane
I'd try turning her head to the right a bit more, you could probably do that by thinning the head a bit
Obviously moving the facial features placement
For a first try you did pretty good though
||edited that cause it sounded mean reading back in my head ||
lament stump
only problem I have is that I don't feel like I'm learning cuz I'm just referencing the drawing but on the other hand I can't draw anything without a reference
I mean i can but it's not gonna look okay
plain bane
It does take a while to learn to do that
I prefer to sketch out on paper when doing that
potent mason
It's better if you study drawing bone sketches than keep referencing faces, you barely learn anything with this.
lament stump
I do full body reference and 1 facial gesure a day
stiff junco
this was a lot harder the I expected
3/4 view is usually hard so maybe practice on whatever makes you worker harder on making it look right, that's usually how you get better
if you require our assistance, we're happy to assist 
plain bane
I would have to agree with silver, learning bone structure helps alot even if it's a more stylistic approach your taking
plain bane
I'm sure it'd help people
potent mason
Thing with it is that once you learn it you can pretty much just create any pose with it. With just face study alone, you're spending a lot of time and barely learn anything in return
stiff junco
aight when i get home ill send it to those who would like to read it
lament stump
i also did this today, danielle helped me alot altho i have to make arms thicker and hips less round like they said
stiff junco
Oooh
plain bane
There are other parts a bit off, but I was just giving out the things that stand out to me
stiff junco
My goodness, you're grown faster than me when I started out as a digital artist haha
supple sorrel
Thing with it is that once you learn it you can pretty much just create any pose...
you're... learning how to draw faces? lol
lament stump
My goodness, you're grown faster than me when I started out as a digital artist ...
i only have 1 finshined full body drawing for now
plain bane
2 is better than none
lament stump
also how do I practice that bone thing you guys talk about
potent mason
Watch yt tutorials
lament stump
Watch yt tutorials
do I search for bone structure drawing practice or something like that?
potent mason
Yes
stiff junco
i only have 1 finshined full body drawing for now
That's still an improvement, lots of people don't do full body drawings often (like me for example i dont do full body drawings but im very much so capable of drawing it)
plain bane
What I do for practicing bonse structure is a daily is a semi realism sketch in a perspective I find difficult
lament stump
That's still an improvement, lots of people don't do full body drawings often (l...
I'll try do draw everything and I will get to backrounds when the time is right
plain bane
I point out what's wrong with it on page an hour later
And work on fixing those points the day after
lament stump
that's smart
stiff junco
Just start with the small steps, akicar
lament stump
will do
potent mason
Why the day after?
potent mason
Maybe that's why the face went bonkers on your drawing coz you have that mentality and just went nvm let's color it now o.o"
plain bane
Probably
potent mason
Do what you can now, not tmr or the day after that
plain bane
That sounds like a fun time to draw actually.....
stiff junco
3/4 view practice before going on pc
potent mason
stiff junco
I wanna see obama as a Herrscher
Then draw it
potent mason
Isn't 3/4th shot up to the knees?
deft folio
Then draw it
Good idea
lament stump
Then draw it
that's why I started drawing, to one day crate what ever I want it just sounds so cool
plain bane
Know what your saying, forgot the word for that perspective tho
stiff junco
portrait perspective thing
plain bane
3 point? No that's for top down bgs
stiff junco
3/4 view is basically referring to the head i believe
key word view
But hey what am I saying I'm just a run-of-the-mill artist
stiff junco
Poor danielle
potent mason
I don't get it...so if I said 1/2 the face feature is only eyes and nose like submerged in water?
stiff junco
what
where'd you get water from
oh you mean like only seeing the top half of the face
supple sorrel
I don't get it...so if I said 1/2 the face feature is only eyes and nose like su...
it's whatever object you're drawing but it's rotated and you see half its front side and half its right, for example
stiff junco
Yeah
plain bane
I'm totally not googling the technical term rn to underp myself
stiff junco
lament stump
are the arms thinck enough?
stiff junco
to underp is to become one with the smart
stiff junco
are the arms thinck enough?
Yeah, is it alright to make a couple suggestions?
plain bane
I guess I'll be forever derp
lament stump
ofc
supple sorrel
I guess I'll be forever derp
what were you looking for again lol
plain bane
The technical terms for head perspectives
Literally said them yesterday
I'm just derping
supple sorrel
like loomis heads or?
stiff junco
ofc
The forearm looks a little wack where the figure has the hand on the hip and the boobs look a little too wide from what im seeing
Though it's really nice
stiff junco
lament stump
The forearm looks a little wack where the figure has the hand on the hip and the...
I'll work on thoes spots a bit thanks
ocean flower
I think the torso is too wide so it make the arms look out of proportion
ocean flower
And also too short
lament stump
<@390960201571893258> when did you start digital drawing?
um like a moth ago
stiff junco
Wow that's pretty good then for just starting a month ago
lament stump
also that full body picture isn't from my mind I used a reference so I'm not like genious or anything
plain bane
Reference is good
ocean flower
Facts
plain bane
Do you think you could zoom out?
ocean flower
If they say reference is cheating smack em with a tuna
stiff junco
is it better?
Much better, have you tried out stabilizer/changing pen pressure?
lament stump
Do you think you could zoom out?
yea
lament stump
Much better, have you tried out stabilizer/changing pen pressure?
i did the stabilizer
and I use brush with no pen pressure for sketches
for line art I use G-pen
plain bane
I'd try thinning out the torso and lengthening it, also try to show the hip on the left, from what I think the pose is the hip on the left would be more prominent that what your sketch makes it to be
ocean flower
Also the shoulder muscle (whatever is called) is missing
plain bane
I'm just gonna say that for now, don't wanna flood you with critique
lament stump
alr I'll thin it out a bit and make the hip more streight/narrow
plain bane
I'm gonna try to do a bit of an example rq
lament stump
it looks like her bodu is facing to the right from this reference so mabye I should invert the right boob and make it face to the left?
lament stump
I think the body is facing to the left cuz of that belly button
plain bane
Yeah
lament stump
this will help out a ton, thanks
plain bane
Glad to be of some help
Don't go 1 to 1 woth it though
Just keep in mind it's a scuffed sketch
I'd also like to ask if anyone can see anything wrong with this currently?
lament stump
I'd also like to ask if anyone can see anything wrong with this currently?
only thing I don't understand is that pink thing on her palm
ocean flower
Try flipping the image it give away imperfections and image balance
plain bane
It's a stylistic choice
lament stump
oh okay
plain bane
When i draw the bg the shading will make more sense
I'll try flipping the canvas
Man it looks like a different drawing flipped
Us that just me
plain bane
The right eye does look quite off
I'll have to erase all the shading and reposition it
Wait
Would it be right or left
ocean flower
The closed one or the open one?
ocean flower
'Cause the close one seems bigger than the other
ocean flower
I honestly think that the final piece will look quite busy
Just by looking at the amount of detail in the hair
plain bane
That's the point of it
It's a stage act, I wanna make all the shading colourful and bright and all stand out
She'll end up being back-lit on stage
I'll be doing the back light last
I was thinking something like this
It is hard to see
lament stump
looks very nice 😀
plain bane
Yatta!
limpid flint
YATTA!
limpid flint
I'm currently in pain I need a stylus to draw on my iPad because my iPad just doesn't respond to touch when I want to draw it gets rid of every line I draw and pain
frank sundial
Oh yeah it’s nearly impossible..I tried using an app for taking notes that you could do with a touch but stylus is more accurate and less messy
grave nymph
Man it looks like a different drawing flipped
that’s why you should periodically flip your canvas to check for mistakes :”D
potent mason
And apple pencil is expensive
zealous pasture
Guys does anyone have a image of the HoF sword?
hardy yew
Wip for elysia <3
oak moat
@plain bane who is she
plain bane
Aya Muruyama
oak moat
Who?
oak moat
Bangdream
plain bane
Yeah
oak moat
U want critique?
plain bane
Yes please
plain bane
Okay
oak moat
@plain bane give me 20min
potent mason
There's barely any progress from yesterday 😟
plain bane
I literally just woke up
I can't remember what I've asked
All I've done to it is shading the eye
prime kelp
the eyes are awkwardly close to eachother
and shading is not enough if i look at the hair
you should go with a more simple shading style otherwise hair would get more focus than the character instead
or u have to get the same kind of shading to eyes, body and clothes (etc.)
plain bane
Yup
oak moat
ocean flower
potent mason
made a quick one
plain bane
Does it look better w/o the extra details?
Sorry this took so long it took forever to open
oak moat
@plain bane u will get there
Details won't work if ur basic isn't good enough
U don't see mine and @potent mason have a lot of details
potent mason
Ye :((((
plain bane
Would it be worth me starting over?
potent mason
I honestly think the face desperately need a redraw
prime kelp
I honestly think the face desperately need a redraw
yes
that face is awkward if u ask me
potent mason
You can look at mine and yoku's as reference on how we did the face
oak moat
@potent mason don't look at face
Look at the boobs
Face is temerary
Boob is eternal
potent mason
Hahaha
lusty breach
frank sundial
made a quick one
I love this one
potent mason
'-')7
supple sorrel
me most of the time: Id rather do anything than draw
me when away from home: oh boy it's time to create a masterpiece
lament stump
vagrant dune
suggestions?
vagrant dune
your style is interesting
thanks
ocean flower
Am I the only one that when draws eyes the end result makes me want to punch a hole in my brain?
lament stump
when I draw anything i want to punch myself
potent mason
its normal to make mistakes along the way, dont be too hard on yourself for doing something very normal
lone wagon
Starting to finally add some details to the OC.
Wantes the colours to be miserable but it ended up being bright and vibrant ehhhh
neon sedge
wraith vault
halfway done doing the base lining for kiana but how does she look so far?
grave nymph
gilded crag
hardy yew
I’m taking my time with this process
prime kelp
can someone give me advice with keeping a certain artstyle stable?
im struggling so much with that
grave nymph
just draw?
your artstyle will change as you improve and stuff
and you'll find a certain artstyle you'd stick to if you just draw ig
trim apex
its normal to make mistakes along the way, dont be too hard on yourself for doin...
Sensei dat u?
potent mason
trim apex
that looks very well done
oak moat
@prime kelp never
prime kelp
oak moat
So master ur arts
Then u will create it
No no no nono
That's the suffer
I don't know how much I changed
Wait lemme show u
Last 2month
Now
And currently
frank sundial
so cute
oak moat
I see u @supple sorrel
supple sorrel
Im watching from the shadows 👁️
oak moat
No u dont
supple sorrel
supple sorrel
it's 11 pm
supple sorrel
it's 11 pm
but you made me curious
oak moat
@tacit trench take short term break
@supple sorrel u want to take the test?
It's basically pressure exam in meme academy
supple sorrel
lol
supple sorrel
I mean we invite a star creator from somewhere and u draw
invite them to do what
supple sorrel
a like free classes
oak moat
So u can get commentary from creators who worked with Miho before
U can ask Lukie
He tooked it
He almost lost his sanity
prime kelp
So master ur arts
the thing is, i change my lineart style more than the painting
prime kelp
depending on what i use as a reference
its becoming a problem on me cause i get influenced too quick
oak moat
Find one and stick with it
supple sorrel
Music composer
you invited a music composer.. to rate their drawings?
prime kelp
Find one and stick with it
oak moat
@supple sorrel he worked for vtubers before so why not
It's not only artists who comes alone to comment
I'll be commenting too
supple sorrel
yeah but then I can get anyone along to comment on what I'm doing
oak moat
Na
U will be locked in one room with me and the invited sensei
U will be given points and commentary
supple sorrel
yeah but why should I care about the sensei if the sensei composes music 
oak moat
Passing it will give u more opportunity to meet higher level srtists
Later on u will even meet well known creators in the twitter
I'll be inviting them ofcourse
If u perform well then they might even ask to collab with u
supple sorrel
which artists?
supple sorrel
yes fuck ai chan
oak moat
Lmao
oak moat
@supple sorrel it's not u to choose
They choose u
We push u to the road u need to go on by urself
supple sorrel
ok Ill think about it
one more questions out of curiosity, have these ppl already agreed to this ?
supple sorrel
Lol I invite them
is that past tense or future
supple sorrel
so have you already spoken to them
oak moat
I'm friend with them
supple sorrel
LMAO
oak moat
u never read the academy chats
supple sorrel
no but why would they agree to give some rando free classes
oak moat
Why do u think?
oak moat
The academy is only for students who are going to rise
Don't worry it's not random class
U will have to draw a topic we gave at last minute and u need to live stream it
Sketch
Lining
Color
Bg
grave nymph
Oh wow
supple sorrel
I'd honestly do that only to see how many times you get rejected
oak moat
U can ask Lukie how is it like to do it
He made it exactly on time
Well cause he asked for couple training like that before
grave nymph
finishing an artwork on less than 4 hours :”D
oak moat
And I only gave him 1hr
grave nymph
supple sorrel
man if they could tutor me for my math classes too 😔
supple sorrel
ok I will
oak moat
@supple sorrel tbh just talk anything thers
It's like a group to talk
I even talk about cat
supple sorrel
ye ik
oak moat
And ranting about primogems
supple sorrel
lol
grave nymph
<@391133066933829632> oh pls my record is 35min to finish a art
and here am I, not being able to finish a wip that’s like, weeks old already
I’m very bad at coloring
especially skin
gosh I hate coloring the skin
I manage to find a wag to color the eyes and hair tho
but skin
relatable
another reason why I don’t wanna color is because my laptop’s screen is trashy
oak moat
Unless u can take the test right now and mastered it
Which one person did
In front of me
And got 10/10
grave nymph
must be a pro
supple sorrel
The academy cadets need 1month preparing and training to enter the academy
when da fuc did I do that
supple sorrel
supple sorrel
grave nymph
torn aspen
Sooooooo I started doing a flamescion fanart
grave nymph
Sooooooo I started doing a flamescion fanart
gambareee
gusty fiber
hi i drew beidou
potent mason
unfortunately bot just wont let me so heres a cropped one
pretty strange hair color combination 🤔
frank sundial
This is amazing
I do agree, the colors are nice overall even if they seem to be an unlikely pairing
and the background is really nice
potent mason
its like those typical gal hair color
frank sundial
I am a sucker for skies in the background especially when its done this way
Another commission or fanart?
potent mason
com
frank sundial
Because whoever hired you has a very nice oc
potent mason
kind of sad bot wont let me post full pic, shes wearing a cute sandals and i wanted to show it
actually gimme a sec
frank sundial
nah too risky, especially on official honky server
potent mason
oh welp, ill just throw it in pixiv :V
hair color reminds me of this but its worse coz the oc has even lighter one :V
frank sundial
Oh yea but its not too bad
i can imagine it can feel strange trying to work with two complementary colors
Tried it a few times before back when I did traditional
plain sorrel
I'm drawing seele
this won't be a finished drawing, it's just a rough guide for the 3D model I'm gonna make
full solstice
clearly that is not seele, it's ggz kiana but with her hair in a braid
plain sorrel
it's seele, trust me
I've heard others confuse it with some character named Venti or something—but it's seele
warped musk
hardy yew
got any socials i can follow you on?
plain sorrel
uhm
I got an artstation and twitter, but I hardly use them
same name as my discord btw
crimson jetty
I'm drawing seele
Wait is that Seele?
warped musk
yesnt
twilit stag
waxen sleet
Hello
hardy yew
I’ve recently tried out backgrounds and proper shading, does this look okay?
potent mason
its fine but still have room for improvement
rancid gazelle
teal garnet
Guys do u have a model of hof side view?
grave nymph
can't you just, open the game and then look at her on the Valkyrie Selection tab thingy?
trim apex
Guys do u have a model of hof side view?
U can just open the game and look at her side profile
shadow nebula
doodle of an oc
teal garnet
U can just open the game and look at her side profile<:MeiStare:4580453660638576...
I- i said i dont play..
i am a honkai fan but
Not a player
teal garnet
can't you just, open the game and then look at her on the Valkyrie Selection tab...
I dont plaay lagiiiii
grave nymph
prime kelp
i am a honkai fan but
trim apex
I- i said i dont play..
Oh sorry, i didnt know
somber haven
Happy HoS
trim apex
i am a honkai fan but
Sorry we didnt see prior messages that indicated you were not a player except for the one which says abt u asking for hof side view
teal garnet
Its okii
trim apex
I dont plaay lagiiiii
lagiiiii huh somehow i think ur ||pinoy||
teal garnet
*lagiiiii* huh<:TeriDerp:794713337396985906> somehow i think ur ||pinoy<:MeiSt...
Yezz
teal garnet
<:TeriSparkle:585553979782594560> ehe same kek
Ehehehehehehehe
too bad were not allowed to speak our native languages other than english here because..well its at the rules
trim apex
Yeah sadge
We can just converse here without talking in our native language anyway kek
teal garnet
Trueee
lost wagon
supple sorrel
can anyone find this artist's lofter page https://twitter.com/foxnote1
Twitter
potent mason
phone is self aware
vagrant dune
im struggling so much with that
relatable af.
clear knoll
https://country12442.lofter.com profile of foxnote in LOFTER
stiff junco
clear knoll
Yeah, I just try to tell the person above not start to learn anatomy from bone first, and give a little bit explaination
stiff junco
for me to learn anatomy i just paid attention in health class
supple sorrel
Yeah, I just try to tell the person above not start to learn anatomy from bone f...
a lot of figure drawing courses have you learning stuff that way but we're drawing anime girls not naked doodes
clear knoll
Anime style is still required some basic of prominent bones.
Besides the bone above looks like male’s to me.
supple sorrel
ye learning stuff like basic bone structure and landmarks is still important
supple sorrel
Yeah, I just try to tell the person above not start to learn anatomy from bone f...
were you trying to tell them to do some gesture drawings first
clear knoll
I will say proportions and rough shape of body part first . and use that to do some simple gestures practice
crimson jetty
crimson jetty
Still WIP
sand mountain
grave nymph
I'm starting to like sucream pencil w
grave nymph
lost wagon
brony ❤️
last vine
any criticism ?
marsh badge
She is so cute
marsh badge
Where do I put it?
grave patrol
Any advices on cleaning up messy sketches?
hardy yew
you can erase some of the messy parts
thats what i usually do
so it looks a little more like a messy lineart
then id line over it
last vine
is the anatomy good here?
imo put the right arm straight down, draw a straight line down from the middle of the shoulder circle as guideline or just rotate it and lenghten it slightly, the left shoulder blade seems to be a little too protruding and low
waist and chest is alright apart from the right boobie, try to line the bottom area of the linework there with that oval thing below the 01
im not an expert in legs so i cant give any advice on that part sorry 😅 i think itll be helpful if u put the eyes a littl higher but other than that good job! keep it up dude! 
grave nymph
redline gogogo
shadow nebula
is the anatomy good here?
if you're going for realistic anatomy not anime you should make the head smaller than the chest, 4 heads should fit from head to groin, arm needs to be a little longer, legs are too long the thigh is shorter than the torso and the shin is the same length as the thigh. Overall it looks good tho!
crimson jetty
Just Finnished
grave nymph
Sin Mal didn't have major changes to her design from GGZ to HI3 right?
I lack SIn Mal references :"D
potent mason
Bruh there's tons of sinmal pics in google
grave nymph
So should I just, follow the ggz design or the hi3 design?
especially for the hair, since hi3 doesn't have the bangs iirc
shadow nebula
supple sorrel
nice booba
shadow nebula
thank you
languid pawn
if you're going for realistic anatomy not anime you should make the head smaller...
omg thanks 
languid pawn
imo put the right arm straight down, draw a straight line down from the middle o...
thank you as well 💖💖
grave nymph
supple sorrel
two of them one braincell
jagged holly
WAAAAA
sage mortar
Drawing dreamswap dream sans as a human, trying a new hair shading style as well.
lament stump
looks weird but i like it
limber kelp
Rough Kiana doodle?¿
fickle karma
potent mason
gilded crag
cobalt linden
idk if I should continue this or draw a new one again from scratch.. ugh
trim apex
nice booba
u rlly had to point only that out
grave nymph
supple sorrel
Did u do this?
yea here's the full comic https://twitter.com/Delia02991441/status/1430209965290049539
trim apex
yea here's the full comic <https://twitter.com/Delia02991441/status/143020996529...
|| r u part of the tesla x edison ship? Noiceeee coz im in for it kek,yk u make me wanna make the elysia x mei ship come to life||
supple sorrel
yesss do itttt
supple sorrel
prime tangle
I uh drew a sketch of Kiana HoF
warped musk
trim apex
I drew mei senpai~ how is it?
trim apex
hips are quite big?
I took a pic on a different angle coz the shadow blocks the light- also in the original pic her hips were like that
trim apex
guess u can say that
dusky trail
i'm more wonder about that string coming out of her pelvic curtain there
trim apex
i'm more wonder about that string coming out of her pelvic curtain there
Can u point it out?
dusky trail
i know what it is but the way it looks, it like it coming straight out of her crotch
trim apex
i know what it is but the way it looks, it like it coming straight out of her cr...
i see, hmm how do u think i should fix it?
dusky trail
<:TeriRip:801041888642727937> i see, hmm how do u think i should fix it?<:TeriTh...
well it mostly because it is blurry, if you have cleaner lineart then it won't be too off
or try to shade the black part of the pic at least
trim apex
or try to shade the black part of the pic at least
I see ill do that then, thanks
dusky trail
@trim apex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_FzA7Dennw
maybe watch that and see if you can get some tip out of it?
trim apex
maybe watch that and see if you can get some tip out of it?
Ive seen that-
trim apex
I think i gotta do some more practice
dusky trail
well i'm a digital artist anyway so can't say i can help much with tradition style
trim apex
or even just look at some manga~
i have alot of mangas i read everyday, i think i just rlly got to do more practice, especially my lineart
trim apex
well i'm a digital artist anyway so can't say i can help much with tradition sty...
I mostly draw digitally so im kinda readjusting to paper again, just for practice and ye i think i need more cleaner strokes
dusky trail
well have a good shading also make thing stand out more
trim apex
Yes sensei
shadow nebula
doodle of something
lament stump
doodle of something
someone*
lament stump
guys drawing female caracters while being a male is hard
cuz I can't figure out how boobs work
it's rly hard to understand how they work
sure references help but not enough
dusky trail
cuz I can't figure out how boobs work
then it just depend how you feel when you draw it, instead of make it feel real
when it come to art, you can just make body bend in odd way or stuff that completely define gravity anyway
dusky trail
just let her bend down or zoom in to cut off the feet, be lazy, like me
supple sorrel
cuz I can't figure out how boobs work
trust me we don't know how they work either
supple sorrel
then it just depend how you feel when you draw it, instead of make it feel real
I dun agree with that
potent mason
i guess we artists who draw them everyday dont exist 🤔
coz almost all my regular clients make me draw sort of a cg scene involving a naked female one way or another everytime
