art-discussion-and-wip

[dusky trail]

could use a more curvy eyebrown but that is still fine

like say, Mobius here

[ivory linden]

Drawing this mouth is taking years off of my life I think this is my best attempt 😢

[dusky trail]

you will get used to draw curve eventually~

but you could always rotate the picture itself to make it easier

[long tangle]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkPECuJJ6hw/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

oceanology_789

Finally finished another commission!:)

Instagram

[hardy yew]

I'm trying to redraw that image but with painting rather than lineart, but i don't really know how to do it
Griseo please teach me

[dusky trail]

not that i'm the brush type but you have to draw bottom layer so y do the skin first then draw everything on top after

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtBmme6xfLY

well a good way to get some tip is just watch someone else do it

[hardy yew]

Thanks, I'll watch it tmr

[oak mortar]

are we allowed to show non-honkai art in here or naur?

[dusky trail]

yes you can show non-honkai stuff in this channel

[sage canopy]

https://streamable.com/m7ljh2 commison for red archer

[worthy junco]

Spoiler for big booba but is her torso too long? Is there anything else wrong with the anatomy besides her thin arms

[dire ruin]

her torso looks a little long to me and the hips may be a little thin? idk i'm not too good at this anatomy either lol

[dusky trail]

her torso is rather off center so she is slightly lean forward there

also her left arm is longer than her right

[worthy junco]

Thank you

[worthy junco]

Is it fixed?

[dusky trail]

the really thin arm still bother me a bit but everything else seem fine

[worthy junco]

Okay! I'll work on that

[amber carbon]

sussy wip

her design is so good aigg

[echo zealot]

wow I love this

[rancid niche]

if the character is tall it's alright

[worthy junco]

She is like 5’8 so yea I think so

[rancid niche]

yeah it's ok

[mossy flume]

Something for an art fight inspired event in another server I’m in (OC owner: chiraachii#9956)

[eager grove]

torso is good, the knee part tho needs to be a BITTT bigger, also fix the left arm a little, looks too wobbly

[sudden lava]

Layla wip 🦶

[celest notch]

I decided to doodle a bit and It turned out to be good 💀

i love when dragons literally stare into your soul

[civic gyro]

Wanna Fish?

cuz I dont want to die?

[lethal forum]

So long

[scenic comet]

That's a DOODLE?!

[celest notch]

I didnt even sketch bro 😭

[hardy yew]

Finished art piece

I cringed with the eyes

[lone wagon]

Ready for the lineart with this piece. Prett happy with it so far actually.

[celest notch]

put those grippers away

[lone wagon]

Grippers?

[celest notch]

feet 😭

[lone wagon]

You have a phobia of feet? They're hard to draw so I kept them in since the globe gonna be coloured but transparent.

[celest notch]

no, man 😭

this was somewhat like a trend on tiktok

where you said "put those grippers away" when you saw pictures of feet

[lone wagon]

I don't have tiktok so I have no clue lmao

[celest notch]

there was even a sound

well

i never said i don't like feet

[lone wagon]

Anyways I need to start making ocs to make illustrating easier cuz atm I'm just making it up as I go along.

[celest notch]

😏

[lone wagon]

Your pfp with that emoji genuinely gives me nightmares and I'm not even sleeping

[celest notch]

i just draw random designs from my head

[lone wagon]

Me too

Whatever pops up in my head and I think is cool I put down xD

[celest notch]

i love drawing dragons

so my humanoid drawings look goofy

[lone wagon]

I used to draw a lot of dragons as wwll when I was younger

[celest notch]

Im currently flat coloring this piece

[lone wagon]

Looks like a water dragon

With those colours

But with that tail it looks a bit like a phoenix's tail

[celest notch]

These arent gonna be its colours tho
there are just kind of flats that will make it easier to color it later

actually I dont have a idea for colours for it

[lone wagon]

I see

Makes sense

The last dragon I drew was last year. It was an oc. XD

My style was very different

I drew it cute xD so not realistic like yours

When I was still called hanami lol

[celest notch]

Reminds me of dragon maid

I finished the flats of the dragon

you got some idea for a palette i could use?

[lone wagon]

Hmm I'm not good with colours

Since you've already done red above I think it'll be more unusual to colour it in colours you've not really experimented with

Like green imagine painting the dragon like it was like a peacock. The tail also reminds me of a peacock

[celest notch]

I may try with something like white, black, green and blue

maybe it will come out good

[lone wagon]

Good luck! Those colours aren't easy to work with together.

[rugged galleon]

Cutie

[lone wagon]

Finished the lineart

[oblique wing]

goofy ah animation

[dreamy cypress]

wip

[young stratus]

mmmm yes

[chilly bridge]

i was playing boss music when i played that

by accident

[lethal forum]

Done

[near mantle]

looks nice!

[lethal forum]

Thanks

[smoky osprey]

i cant sleep

its 6am my god

[craggy smelt]

9:12 pm here

decided to draw cyborg nazi loli

[lunar sonnet]

Idk how to perspective this correctly send help pls

[dusky trail]

it is mostly fine so you don't have to worry about it too much, though it probably easier to see if you put the sketch of the guy as well

[dusky trail]

if you want her to grab his chest then you may want to extend her waist up

otherwise he gonna look too short

since there not gonna be enough room for his legs there

so for now, try to draw his legs first then extend her waist depend on it

[lunar sonnet]

You mean extend her body this way?

I could hike the guy's waste up and try to foreshorten it too, would that work?

[dusky trail]

well i would move it up like this

rotate her a bit to get more room and that way she won't bump into him either

[lunar sonnet]

oh, you mean twist her upper body counterclockwise?

[dusky trail]

ya

but do that after you get his legs done first

so you can tell for sure how much length you need

i used her leg as measurement and you gonna need to adjust quite a bit

something like this i guess

[lunar sonnet]

this?

[dusky trail]

kinda optional but you could rotate her upper body so she is more straight up

but it is fine as it is now

[lunar sonnet]

You mean have her back face more towards the viewer/

?

[dusky trail]

like so

[lunar sonnet]

Also do you have any tips in general because having two characters at once in a complex position is kind of something I should definitely work on more.

[dusky trail]

there isn't much beside draw they sketch in separated layers so you can adjust them easier

[smoky osprey]

almost 10am do i even bother sleeping now

[dusky trail]

that way if you messed up the other one, you don't have to worry about it affect the other

to make it easier to see, you can also give them different color too

like one use red color and one use blue or something

oh and you may want to move his belt up higher too

around this high

if you don't give him enough room for the crotch, it gonna make the pant way too low

[lunar sonnet]

This?

I'll need to adjust the arm and realign it

[dusky trail]

you can rotate more

just try to compare it with the one i just post up there

also, this is how i usually do it when i draw character interact with each other

separate even in the lineart folder so i can fix thing easier

well it is just something you have to draw more to get the feel of it yourself

it is the same as look up for any tutorial

it is easier to understand it in your own way then try to figure out what the heck they even saying

[smoky osprey]

[hardy yew]

On progress

[scenic comet]

Is that makima

[hardy yew]

Yes it is

[scenic comet]

Nice

[eager grove]

thats really cute

[devout crest]

that is sus

[echo zealot]

ooasdi

[stable flume]

im in love with this drawing!

[smoky osprey]

thank uuu

[worthy junco]

Sleep azure sleep

[smoky osprey]

it;s almost 6 pm now

what sleep

[worthy junco]

Sleep azure sleep in the name art god

Your art may be awesome but sleep is important

[smoky osprey]

ill sleep when it's bedtime again 🥲

gonna finish all my assignments i procrastinated on this weekend

the art was actually to help knock me out bc i was having insomnia

[deft cairn]

Another Raiden 😅

[hardy yew]

working on a lil halloween eden bc birthday girl

[hardy yew]

I'm suffering so much doing this but i'm still trying

[onyx breach]

how are you suffering exactly?

[dusky trail]

drawing huge boobs for a flat chest lover is suffering

[sage canopy]

https://giphy.com/gifs/YLFrv0CeIsMZSXrhfr

[lost wagon]

https://twitter.com/zodiac_ws/status/1587020371483582465

十二獣Zodiac (@zodiac_ws)

optimizing her design a bit more.
I challenge you to give it a try too :D
comment with your own ideas what she could wear!

#manga #design #drawing

Twitter · Oct 31, 2022, 9:55 AM

art challenge!!

can you design a new outfit for her?

[craggy smelt]

sure

[vocal meadow]

Does anybody have some herrscer of flamescion design references?

[craggy smelt]

cant you just check honkai?

[vocal meadow]

I'm at school

[craggy smelt]

You guys can bring your phones to school in your country?

[dusky trail]

well along you don't use it during class then there is no problem

[craggy smelt]

ahaha were not allowed to bring phones only work laptops, and were only allowed to use them when permitted by the teacher

were not allowed to use them even after class

[vocal meadow]

Thanks

[onyx breach]

back in high school and even in college we can bring phones in the school as long as we dont use it during class

just have it set to silent mode but vibrates

[late carbon]

Anyone have Vill-V references

[lethal forum]

I have this one

[late carbon]

I love you very much

🫵😊

[grim goblet]

[vocal meadow]

Wip, what do you think?

[scenic comet]

Looks nice

[vocal meadow]

Thanks

[near mantle]

are u sure where u are located isn’t what I think it is, sounds like prison school

jkjk

same rules apply at my school too

but way way less enforcement/strict, in fact most our teachers dc (given that I did my work)

due to that fact alone I can play on my phone most of my classes

[vocal meadow]

Lineart finished, opinions?

[versed cosmos]

🗿👍

[mossy flume]

Happy Halloween!! 💜🐻🎃👻 (TW/CW for second pic: slight blood) This was specifically for a Sanrio Halloween themed collab I was a part of on instagram

[onyx breach]

cute birdy

[long tangle]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkZD15QJlw1/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

oceanology_789

I kinda dislike how inconsistent the lore is with the design of the r41 but I think I found a happy blend between most of them

Instagram

[hardy yew]

Very rough sketch criticism is welcome

[dusky trail]

i think her leg is shorter than her arm

also what is that thing she is holding on her left hand?

[hardy yew]

Microphone stand

Reference pic

[dusky trail]

the reference is more round looking, while your looks more like an really weird umbrella

though shouldn't it be under her skirt if we based on the reference?

but anyway, i think the only main problem is her legs are shorter than her arm

[hardy yew]

Did I fix it?

[dusky trail]

make a copy of the arm then use it like a ruler for the leg

if you still see it shorter than the leg then it still a problem

like with the older version here

if you put it next to each other, you can see the thigh is a lot shorter

so just make the thigh longer than her upper arm then you should be good

[grim goblet]

ibispaintx brrt

[rancid niche]

Phone user

Just like me

[lone wagon]

I don't understand whether your wip is that face in the hair or the whole drawing if it is why is it so small like its been cropped and why not just put the whole jpeg?

[grim goblet]

[grim goblet]

don't question the artist's choices tbh, they may just feel not like showing

[lone wagon]

Well for one it could be a drawing that someone else did and her wip is editing it but from the way she/he whoever phrased it sounds like they did the whole thing.

[grim goblet]

u can just ask the question of whether its made by them or not directly

[lone wagon]

WIP stands for 'work in progress' also and that drawing looks pretty finished to me.

[grim goblet]

also I know this person and knowing them they would be sure to give credit to other artists who may be involved with the making of this artwork

[lone wagon]

I could ask whether it's her work but I asked it in this way cuz I don't want to doubt the artist I'm just simply curious to why its so small you can't see any of the fine details thr artist put into the work and I'd like to personally see the whole jpeg directly so I can appreciate the work better.

[grim goblet]

ok

[dusky trail]

should just turn your signature into an earing

[grim goblet]

[hardy yew]

wip wep wap wup wop

[scenic comet]

This is why drugs are bad

[hardy yew]

drugs gud

[scenic comet]

If u do drugs then u look like that

[hardy yew]

shes cute

atleast imo

cuz i've spent >1 week for her

[scenic comet]

Yeah. Overall looks good. Just work on the right eye a bit

She looks like she got brain damage

Just saying. Rest is up to u

[hardy yew]

i meant to do that
you can't see her right hand wiping tears cuz I havent colored it yet
but ty

[scenic comet]

Oh. I see. I can see the arm a bit

[steep turret]

she looks cute

[hardy yew]

pochita.

[rancid niche]

Love the colors

[hardy yew]

[grim goblet]

MFW I see this in GGz:

KIAMEI NOT BRONMEI

[hardy yew]

but its cute tho

[grim goblet]

kiamei better

[hardy yew]

wdym? Thats Kiana look at the white hair, def not bronya

[grim goblet]

frfr

[whole cloak]

what does this mean?

And how do I claim rewards

[thick token]

sketch didn’t take long surprisingly

[worthy junco]

Looks great

[thick token]

thanks

[worthy junco]

I'm sorry I just realized your pfp and name and now I'm wgeezing

[hardy yew]

how to draw thicc ppl

[echo zealot]

Wow the wings are majestic

[scenic comet]

With your hands and imagination

[dusky trail]

you draw normal person then stretch them out

[scenic comet]

U make person. Then make the thighs bigger and rounder

[limpid haven]

mhy designs the most difficult outfits

hand and arm posing is difficult

[grim goblet]

anatomy moment

[limpid haven]

undecided hand drawing draft

[grim goblet]

HoC

[near mantle]

pardo re design

[lone wagon]

Gonna attempt to colour this piece of mine.

[craggy plank]

kronii again 🥲

[grand token]

My edit :))))

[split minnow]

I LOVE

[limpid haven]

HoC-chan. haven't decided on outfit colouring but rigged her a bit to check the overall looks

[feral orbit]

Freakin adorable

[split minnow]

CUTE

[grim goblet]

HoC simp detected

[feral orbit]

[celest notch]

I love gradient maps

[fading citrus]

Mei use machine gun??!

Chainsaw kiana??!

That's rad af

[grim goblet]

FR tho

[rancid niche]

Pretty, but I think the thighs curve look a little weird tho, and the right boob looks bigger than the left

[thick token]

ya idfk what happened to the boob

[rancid niche]

I think the thigh would look better like this?

[grim goblet]

need thicker booba

[rancid niche]

Kiana tops btw

[thick token]

ohhh thanks it does

[whole cloak]

I love the way you drew the eyes they look so lively

[sage canopy]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/jbaeG1BtMzDi2LEeeA68l1frIMp8CSY6BEaQF0Ug2ps/%3Fcid%3D73b8f7b1c5ee7ab1c25673b556eef8194cc99c817a1729d9%26rid%3Dgiphy.mp4%26ct%3Dg/https/media4.giphy.com/media/wtr6zQoBbdKTTPIRu7/giphy.mp4

[mossy flume]

Halloween themed piece for an art fight inspired event in another server I’m in (oc owner: stibiumtrees on insta)

[celest notch]

Drew sum shit again

he kinda goofy

[hardy yew]

Elysia but she looks ugly as f-ck in my art style lmao

[hardy yew]

Hopefully should be done within the week

[graceful echo]

Trying to make irene adler with same pose but i think im gonna make the hair little bit different

[oblique wing]

I made too many mistake

[limpid haven]

Is she sitting down?

[grim goblet]

Face too elongated KEK

[grim goblet]

If u call that dumb shit Yr gonna give thousands of artists depression

[oblique wing]

The perspective of someone being pinned onto the floor by Elysia

[grim goblet]

Should have moved the thighs further back then

[limpid haven]

I see. The main issue I spot is that her legs and her waist are not confirming in angle
You may want to change one of them

[grim goblet]

Maybe a reference could help?

Also... u did u try using the line of action as a base sketch before adding in the body?

[oblique wing]

Well, I knew it since I finished the sketch. I just don't know how to draw her legs.

[limpid haven]

mind if I draw over?

[oblique wing]

I usually draw the base like a figurine.

[oblique wing]

Sure thing

[limpid haven]

pose suggestion. don't trust my anatomy.
I would guess this is her pose now with one leg giving the pressure or hint of dominance.
In that case showing a bit of the waist would be good.
If it was meant to be at a almost flat angle, I would keep the body but move her left leg outward to make space for her torso

[grim goblet]

Anatomy with angle moment

[oblique wing]

So this is why I keep thinking it lacks something...

[oblique wing]

A hellish ride It is

[ornate venture]

wip

[limpid haven]

the other way out for comic artists is to make a character with a really huge bust to cover the torso altogether
Still need the legs to be wider

[celest notch]

I mean he look a bit goofy

[grim goblet]

Nah fam looks epic

Keep it up actually strive to do better

[fallow thicket]

drawing digitally again after god knows how long

man, kinda need to relearn stuff i wasn't able to give myself time to draw because of school

[grim goblet]

medibang brrt

[dusty ocean]

amazing!

[halcyon rune]

https://twitter.com/timepause_/status/1588209746355462144 sui ☄️

TimePause (@timepause_)

☄️@ 🍻
#ほしまちぎゃらりー

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Twitter · Nov 3, 2022, 4:41 PM

[hardy yew]

Doodle of short man

My hands after midterm exam

[limpid haven]

Bless your hands. This is very nice and moody

[grim goblet]

damn that hand anatomy

perfect

[spark pike]

so uh is this right place to ask for derp teriri collection? (like different variation derp)

[grim goblet]

nope

[craggy plank]

another update

[lethal forum]

she looks weird.

[dusky trail]

you could give her more expression than just blank face

[grim goblet]

u trying to draw her sitting?

[lethal forum]

I try to use this

[grim goblet]

ohhhh

u need to slant her body further

try drawing the line of action of the character 1st

yknow what that is... right

[elfin lark]

Hey, professional artist here. Allow me to jeoperdize my affiliation to this community by having the audacity to give you that cold hard truth no one else wants to. Its not the art style, its the lack of understanding of the fundamental principles. Specifically in this case, we would be talking about anatomy. I dont want you to take this as a personal attack, I read your caption and it caught my eye. I see this often around the art servers I hang out in and it seems to me like its a dangerous trap which could potentially hinder artistic growth. Perhaps you are aware of what I'm trying to point out, perhaps you aren't. Either way, just want to let you know that help is given to those who seek it. We all suck in the beginning, but part of getting better is admitting we suck. Rant over. Cheers and good luck

[grim goblet]

ye anatomy

u need to revisit the anatomy of da hooman body + line of action to help u with yr rough sketch before adding in the character's body

[lethal forum]

😅not really

[grim goblet]

The Line of Action is an imaginary line that you can draw along the character's pose. A character's body posture flows along this imaginary line of action

that's that in general

[lethal forum]

Thanks

[grim goblet]

u should search it up on google

there are ton of guides on how to use this technique to draw a character out

[elfin lark]

Assuming they understand foreshortening..

[grim goblet]

ah.... true....

so many things to cover in art

[elfin lark]

Ye rip

[grim goblet]

and another thing u should pick up would be forshortening as Raz.Van mentioned

basically

it's about drawing poses/characters from an angle

[sage canopy]

https://media.giphy.com/media/9nawIM8nkMjGrzjSV2/giphy.gif

[hardy yew]

need more people who are willing to say this tbh, kudos to you

[lethal forum]

🤔sketching is hard in fact

[grim goblet]

u gotta practice the Line of action and foreshortening 1st

[lethal forum]

😅yes i have a lot to learn

[grim goblet]

it's fine

art be like that

[scenic comet]

No. It's only as hard as u think it is

[lethal forum]

😅firt time for posing . In general i do à sketch only for face. 😅

[scenic comet]

It's good. Keep practicing. U will get better

[grim goblet]

[lethal forum]

[plucky bobcat]

[dusky trail]

you really need to practice expression...

they are all colorful and expression cast

so you can just use their face as reference for practice

the mouth and the eyebrow all work together to give character emotion

[lethal forum]

i see 😅 and i have find the reason why she look little bit scary too

[dusky trail]

well right now because your character head and body seem to lean too much to one side + her expression

it just look like she being hang to me...

[dusky trail]

oh and we have plenty of people here willing to say it, it just we don't do it to everyone unless they ask for it

[grim goblet]

Truth hurts

[dusky trail]

depend on people since if you shot them down too hard, they can lose the motivation to draw completely after all

[grim goblet]

So true like what happened to me?

[lethal forum]

damn her eyes are weird 🤔

[zinc crown]

Hey I think your point of view is super appreciated and your advice is on point. However, please keep the feedback/critique for those who solicit it in specific! Thank you.

[hardy yew]

I'm struggling to get cute vibes

Also is her torso short it feels short but idk since she's supposed to be sitting

[ornate venture]

pls give me rendering tips 😨😨

[bleak grotto]

idk how to render sorry

[craggy smelt]

Its more of a tip in my opinion

Really helpful too

As long as nobody is hurt or offended its fine

[zinc crown]

The reasoning here is that while this one critique/feedback was very respectful, not everyone will do it the same way. And it might not get to a point where it's fully disrespectful but it's still not quite right (this is very dependant on the artwork poster, everyone is different!)
This channel is supposed to be safe for everyone, and some of them just don't want critique for any reason. This is valid I think.

[hardy yew]

The base is finally done, i'll start painting tomorrow

[marble quarry]

I missed her :') gonna do colors tomorrow

[marble quarry]

ohhh this is so pretty!!

[marble quarry]

study the original image, decide source of light and how the environment could affect the colors that could reflect on her! study other artists and how they do it, there's lots of tutorials on youtube too :] I like the channel called samdoesarts, he has some nice painting tutorials
simple brushes work just fine, u can use more fancy ones towards the end of u want
already looking great!! love how u colored the bag

[full solstice]

try blocking out big shadows first, then going to smaller shadows

oh and don't be afraid to accentuate the contrast between light and shadows

[ornate venture]

tytyy

[ornate venture]

tysm

[silent thistle]

Fabric

My soul

I cant draw it anymore

[grim goblet]

eh looks decent enough tbh. Yr getting there OwO

[grave nymph]

slowly coming back to draw

slowly

[normal gale]

Any Procreate user here? I am just wondering how to improve my art more, I can’t seem to make the lines look pro, is there any pressure settings, or any youtube tutorial i can watch?

[dusky trail]

depend on what you mean by pro

[normal gale]

This is the best i can do but I cant seem to make it look more pro

[dusky trail]

why is she in a barn?

[normal gale]

Is there like a rule for drawing the lines thick or thin?

[dusky trail]

the line either thick or thin is depend on the artist themself, it is something you can personalized it

but usually you make it thick where lineart gather

as it give the part more "volume"

like you can see here, the outline of the lineart draw quite thick while the detail on the shirt is more thin

but some part with thicker line to create a small shade but also to give it more weight

[normal gale]

Ohhh yess i see it! Thank you I’ll try to incorporate that in my drawing 🙏

[dusky trail]

you could try to do more with the background though

you could try make a small miniature set like this to fit with your chibi style

depend on how you use it, you can also showcase the character's personality and trait too

[normal gale]

So cute! Thank you for the tips! I‘ll definitely try it 🙏

[dusky trail]

good luck

oh and you could add some expression effect like that music note there

or even sparkler

all of those can be used to give the character more expression

you can watch anime or manga to learn those stuff

[normal gale]

I totally agree ❤️ thanks a bunch ☺️

[dusky trail]

like for example, how about draw some arms of people cheering for her like she is an idol on stage

or use that similar idea with her making various pose while someone taking picture

so think about what you want your character to be then testing out various scenario you think fit her

[normal gale]

She‘s supposed to be an archer on a dungeon tho who just finished killing 😅 but i guess I should have placed more details haha

[dusky trail]

then you could have her hold her bow on her right hand

and maybe some slime or skeleton with arrow stuck into them

could do a simple hallway for the background too instead of her facing a wall

[normal gale]

Yes I‘ll surely make those improvements, thank you so much 🙏

[grim goblet]

[sterile trout]

What do yall think so far?

[dusky trail]

well she has this so why not add that in your reference stuff too

[plucky sphinx]

I drew this medal

full reference for the medal

[craggy plank]

i’d say play with brushes adjust them to your liking and if it looks good in your opinion and it’s comfortable for you it’s just matter of time until you master it, you can also look through downloadable brushes online there is a lot of them especially for lineart purposes

it all depends on how comfortable you are with particular brush

[grim goblet]

combining delta and elysia design concepts alongside 2 other things I don't recognise. cool XD

[craggy plank]

a lot of pro artists use 2 brushes only some use 10 it’s just what is best for you

[plucky sphinx]

Medal: Whoever you are...
Whoever you are, wherever you been, whatever you did, you made your path of righteous no matter what wrong have you done, what sin have you commited, whats ahead of you is a light that awaits for a bright ending

[dusky trail]

meanwhile i just use basic brush because i'm too lazy to adjust it

[plucky sphinx]

the design cues mostly take on angelic concept

[grim goblet]

0oh wait I just noticed yr name

no wonder there are delta concepts

[grim goblet]

a sweet description ngl

[plucky sphinx]

i might have to rework on the scale since this is hand made

[craggy plank]

i’ve adjusted the technical pen to two variations, and i even use it to spread my shading rather than mess about with multiple brushes

[plucky sphinx]

especially the wings on both side and the crystal flower

[plucky sphinx]

the design cues taken:
Delta - Right wing and crown
Elysia - Crystal flower
Kal-El (CSO character) - Left Wing
Sandalphon (CSO weapon) - The orb

[grim goblet]

naruhodo naruhodo

[craggy plank]

and it’s been working quite well of course it’s just a personal opinion from my own experience

[grim goblet]

damn

[craggy plank]

i just abuse the blend brush a lot 😭

[grim goblet]

so long as it turns out to be a beautiful piece of work,

it works

LOL

[craggy plank]

exactly, my head hurts when i’m hearing of proper techniques

[grim goblet]

KEKKKK

[scenic comet]

Ohhh. That's nice

[lethal forum]

😅rosalya cosplaying as herrscher of the void

🤔

[scenic comet]

Bruh just make a time lapse video

[lethal forum]

😅good idea

[scenic comet]

[scenic comet]

Nice

[prisma vector]

Wow so amazing

[sage canopy]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/l5k0uiIxQPNopWFZvHAZdIW94vjT7E85AhmVeFnv3lo/%3Fcid%3D73b8f7b16c07d177064127a480a876eedfd67e33891098b9%26rid%3Dgiphy.mp4%26ct%3Dg/https/media4.giphy.com/media/AuPvgPO1gV5Uop7yOT/giphy.mp4

[echo zealot]

does anyone have like a tip on how to render? i never understood

[oblique wing]

just render lol

[hardy yew]

Please critique this sketch

[dusky trail]

you should clean up the extra line of the hair

those parts can make the hair look rather messy

the way she sit also look like this is a slightly up angle too so those boxes on the ground won't look that way

[hardy yew]

Thanks for the advice

[dusky trail]

if you want a more front view sit then you can try that

[hardy yew]

I actually was going for up view so I’ll change the boxes

[dusky trail]

if so you may want to make her look upward too

it depend on where you want her to look but move the iris like this will show she is looking upward

[hardy yew]

Ok thanks

[grim goblet]

[hardy yew]

[grim goblet]

HoTE brrt

[kindred robin]

Do you know the name of the flower on SW Bronya's clothes?

[whole cloak]

they look similar to pansies but I’m not sure

[timid vector]

to finish or no

[hardy yew]

the hands n arms are giving me a migraine but its okay because i kind of like how this pose is turning out

[digital garnet]

color first below the lineart layer, make sure to separate them. Then make another layer and shade everything according to your style

[timid vector]

the right leg is kinda weird and the boxes don't look 3d

[hardy yew]

Forgot to flip while making it, now i cry

[echo zealot]

thank you

[celest notch]

Age between 15 and 80

[hardy yew]

WIRG2JWIYWWGAISYEURJ2H bro😭

[hardy yew]

Thank you.

[hardy yew]

1. Do line art
2. Put base colors on layer below with no shadows
3. Duplicate the colors layer, block the layer, set it on multiply(put the duplicated one all white)
4. Use magic tool to select 1 color(in a easier way) and the start shadow thw stuff with all black
5. Hide the first color layer to be easier to shadow
6. After being well shadowed u can delete lineart cuz we dont need it anymore
7. Unhide the color layer
8. Go to color balance and adjust the shadows so they wont be like very dark yk
   And that's pretty much it

[hardy yew]

https://youtu.be/c8Wqwzqsq7E
Here

It works for all programs so dont be a worry about it

[echo zealot]

thank you very much

[hardy yew]

scara 😭

this took like 3.5 hours

my finger DIED

[grim goblet]

[humble hawk]

just sum random sketch :)))

[grim goblet]

what's that?

[dusky trail]

look like Fate GO's Demon God

[grim goblet]

ohh I do see the similarities...

[late carbon]

my eyes died along with it

[celest notch]

Damn I found a rlly good inker pen

Funky ugly foot

[lunar sonnet]

Need help with boots

[limpid haven]

how about loosen the wrinkles to make it stiff

[lunar sonnet]

\

[dusky trail]

well it is fine to put some of the wrinkle on the back at least

[lunar sonnet]

oh, you mean tighten

wait

no, that wasn't the right word

hold on

[dusky trail]

just the back part~ no need for the front

that say, since she is sitting, you may want to tilt her feet like so

[limpid haven]

yeah, I mean this. sorry about my wording
like ↑ you may want to consider the tilt unless this posing is intended

[dusky trail]

tilt or straight out the feet would be better for that pose

[limpid haven]

when I pose for my own drawing, I do find myself in that position (Kiana one) even when sitting low so I guess it is not wrong
outward spreading hurts sometimes

[dusky trail]

ya, that is more common pose

well neither are good for long sitting anyway

[limpid haven]

ah I see. I had martial arts training as a kid so I shouldn't rely on my posing

[dusky trail]

put feet inward like this would feel a bit more comfortable

well straight it out gonna need quite the adjusting to be done so it is better for you to just tilt it

[lunar sonnet]

...

I just watched the advice go in like three directions

And each time it changed it's right after I just adjusted it according to the last one

[dusky trail]

lol

well just use whichever you like

it just your origin feet would make her toes digging into the ground

[lunar sonnet]

This then?

Or maybe I should foreshorten the front of the sole a bit?

Seeing how jingwei's foot is foreshortened?

[dusky trail]

try to make it a bit more curvy

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/783078378872897608/1039370115956883477/Draph_-_Yaia_.png?width=719&height=599

you can see her toes cap show a lot more room there

[lunar sonnet]

I mean, some shoes have their ends taper?

brogues, I believe the term is?

[dusky trail]

ya but as it is now, your shoes look like it is 80% sole

so give the shoes part a bit more volume at least

[lunar sonnet]

Oh, you mean the curve from the top of the toes to the sole

I thought you meant the width of the sole

[grim goblet]

[craggy smelt]

chuaturi

chuachuaaaa

[limpid haven]

cute way to draw a face there

[grim goblet]

[sage canopy]

https://media.giphy.com/media/uxWY3OuCbNN2nqG04P/giphy.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/9itIaMxGojAvhR5Wm1/giphy.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/AuPvgPO1gV5Uop7yOT/giphy.gif

[oblique wing]

BROnya

[agile lichen]

not christmas but 🤭🤭

[oblique wing]

rough sketch of my own iteration of Herrscher Sirin

[untold moon]

Ely WIP

[worthy junco]

That looks great so far!

[craggy smelt]

Sheeeesh

[grim goblet]

[mental arrow]

HoTe

[oblique wing]

Tea

[prime spoke]

This is killing me

[dusky trail]

the gear can be quite a pain to draw if you not used to it after all

[prime spoke]

I only shaded the dark side

The color theory..

[prime spoke]

MY STYLUS PEN HAS NO BATTERY NOW

[grim goblet]

[warped musk]

💀

[wicked kettle]

herrschers of reason wip

[scenic comet]

Are those Bronya and welt?

[wicked kettle]

yep! bronya all grown up 😩

[scenic comet]

She is standing on a box and even then she is shorter then welt

[wicked kettle]

indeed hahah it was inspired from my experience in hoyofest when i stood next to a welt cosplayer

[grim goblet]

Where is Joyce

[scenic comet]

Which one?

The child or the adult

[grim goblet]

Joyce welt, the original HoR

[scenic comet]

So the adult

[grim goblet]

With blue hair

[scenic comet]

Yes. The guy in bronya's flashback

[grim goblet]

Yep

BTW welt yang is also an adult that's why I had to clairify

[scenic comet]

That's the adult Joyce I am talking about

[scenic comet]

Bruh. You asked about Joyce. And I said which one. There was nothing confusing about it

[grim goblet]

But there is literally no child Joyce is there-

[scenic comet]

Yes. The kid that welt yang adopted

[scenic comet]

Jeffrey Joyce yang

[grim goblet]

.... Joyce was literally older than yang how could yang have adopted him

[scenic comet]

This kid

[grim goblet]

That's... APHO. The Joyce I'm referring to is the original 1st herrscher in AE VN

[scenic comet]

The Joyce in bronya's flashback is called welt Joyce . The original HoR

[grim goblet]

This guy-_-

[scenic comet]

Yes

[grim goblet]

And he's not the same guy as the guy u mentioned in the pic above as far as we know

In any case this is an art channel

We shouldn't be discussing this here

I'll leave it at that lest you ping me in #off-topic-discussion

[prime spoke]

IM FINALLY FINISH

[grim goblet]

Lol nice

[grim goblet]

Now do full body

[scenic comet]

I want to draw him. I have been drawing waifu's for too long

[grim goblet]

Good idea tbh

He needs attention

People forget him cuz he doesn't appear much in main story

[scenic comet]

Honestly if he appeared more in game. He would have more fans then Kevin

I honestly like his look better than Kevin

[grim goblet]

Yeah he looks gigachad

And also his appearance in AE VN in the final chapters-

Was sooooo epic

And memorable

The way he fought otto

[scenic comet]

WHAT?!

[grim goblet]

Yeah LOL

[scenic comet]

He fought otto

I MUST SEE THIS

[grim goblet]

He's the founder of AEnti entrophy

Ok

[scenic comet]

Oh. My apologies

[prime spoke]

How bout no

[grim goblet]

Awww mannn

[prime spoke]

Gonna go draw li shesung

Suhuang

[grim goblet]

Full body?

[prime spoke]

Still a no

[grim goblet]

[spice crater]

[grim goblet]

she looks drunk to my cursed eyes

[oblique wing]

Void Queen Reborn

[prime spoke]

After drawing, i cant draw for a week

[grim goblet]

LOL

[scenic comet]

Weakling

[grim goblet]

Recharging ammo, removing artist's block, ready to draw

[hardy yew]

[grim goblet]

Should start off by drawing a rough sketch of the anatomy 1st

[scenic comet]

The biggest mistake is to draw the details from the start. Just draw the full body with the pose you want first. Then slowly work your way up to the details.

[hardy yew]

Drawing misa

[hardy yew]

Better?

[untold moon]

more ely WIP

[wicked kettle]

😩 sorry he couldnt make it to the photoshoot because i dunno.. he's unalived

[long tangle]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckwf7KRJv54/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

oceanology_789

Drawing old pics from Patagonia

Instagram

[oblique wing]

El

[scenic comet]

Yeah. Now you can draw the details

[hardy yew]

it wasnt until i started working on the detailed sketch did i realize i forgot her hairpieces

[rancid niche]

Yes you can draw her features after you draw the pose/body first

[echo zealot]

turns out a lot of art in #honkai-fan-art is ai-generated, how are we feeling fellas

[limpid haven]

seeking advice for figure/anatomy drawing.
Elysia, with pose model reference

[oblique wing]

They are too cheaply made

[left siren]

Work big then work small

[dusky trail]

so far so good though her hand seem a bit too small awhile her boobs is too point upward

a more balance arm would be good too since your getting smaller on the way to the hand

[left siren]

Basically my logic/classifications:

Big - Silhouettes, Form, Shape, position. Basically if you squint you eyes, the things you cab depict are the big part

Middle - Clothes, design, basic Lighting/Shading. Basically if the image is a bit blurred, the things you can depict are the medium details

Small details - details, highlights, texture. The small details that otherwise won't be noticed easily like jewelries and shines

[limpid haven]

thank you. Referencing and drawing a lying down pose so her torso/ chest might not be matching well
Rethinking about that
I can see her hands are too skinny now. Thank you

[dusky trail]

well if she is lying down then i guess you can pick something from there for reference

or more like it is pointing too upward compare to the body

[scenic comet]

Tried to draw Welt Joyce. And well. I have mixed thoughts about this.

[scenic comet]

Nice Bruhnya

[grim goblet]

[solid tapir]

Anyone have any tips for shading or coloring? I’m at a loss

[dusky trail]

well, what style you aiming for anyway?

[solid tapir]

Thats the problem i don’t really know how to advance ^^’ I mostly draw like an anime style anyway but

[full solstice]

i think the main thing is just to add more defined shadows

anime usually has pretty sharp shadows that are large and noticeable

[dusky trail]

you also don't use too dark of a color otherwise it will became even darker when you shade

[full solstice]

right now, your shadows are just a bit dull and small, unless if it's a more flat style you're aiming for

yeah, i like to think of the base color as actually lighter than what the original color should be, and the shadows are either the original color or a bit darker

also is she a genshin oc?

[dusky trail]

you can use Eden as reference since she using similar color scheme

[solid tapir]

Oh!!

And yes she is ^^’

[dusky trail]

but you can see even her red-brown clothe color is a lot more on the bright side there

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783078378872897608/1040438348025704518/IMG_4038.png

while your go for rather too dark one, the background also make it a lot darker

[solid tapir]

So I should use a darker bg?

[dusky trail]

what kind of feeling you want to use for her?

[solid tapir]

Sarcastic, Serval lady who’s kinda playful in nature, she does what she wants kinda deal

[dusky trail]

in that case, red with gradient often work well

[solid tapir]

Thank you so much!!

[solid tapir]

Oh I see!! I’ll come back when I’ve took your advice

[dusky trail]

oh ya, one more thing, how do you deal with your color layer anyway?

[solid tapir]

Oh I shade on the layer above, and then add a clipping mask to the line art to color it. That’s all I really know how to do

[dusky trail]

well since you still testing it out, try to separate each color out

[solid tapir]

Oh!!

[dusky trail]

if you do it like this then it will be easy to adjust later if you want to fix anything

[solid tapir]

Got it!

[rancid niche]

idk about the other drawing apps but using folders help organize well too

[full solstice]

i remember someone telling me that procreate doesn't actually have folders for layers

idk im too poor for it so you'll have to see

[rancid niche]

oh

[rancid niche]

im also poor i use ibispaint

[full solstice]

same

😭

nvm apparently procreate does have folders

[rancid niche]

oh

[full solstice]

it's just called groups or smth

[hardy yew]

https://tenor.com/view/jet-bean-killer-bean-ragdoll-ragdoll-fall-gif-23762382

[grim goblet]

The blue is so sky, the white is so cloud

[drowsy onyx]

i havent posted here in so long

[left siren]

Know how to use Blending modes?

[smoky osprey]

amog

took a break from my midterm to enter into that sticker contest

[sage canopy]

https://giphy.com/gifs/yqwzpn9vMSGad4BmCs

[grim goblet]

3D modelling brrr

[rancid niche]

Brrr

[grim goblet]

now do it for a HI3 character model

[sage canopy]

I’ve actually tried to do that before, issue is, you need a powerful PC

[grim goblet]

Ah, that's sad.. meanwhile for me my issue is being unable to make the model in the 1st place

[sage canopy]

Actually, you just need the MMD plugin and the PMX file

[grim goblet]

Ah yes, the other way around it

[sage canopy]

They gave the download file of nearly all of their valks ya know?

[grim goblet]

Though tbh to me it feels like a cheat, making the model by yrself gives u the sense of accomplishment imo

[grim goblet]

LMFAO WHAT

That I didn't know

No wonder CN has so many MMDs

[sage canopy]

Uhhhh duh https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/911692672777977856/1006610342647971850/holyshit.PNG

Ofc, I didn't animate it, since it broke my laptop hahaha

[grim goblet]

Me dumb

[grim goblet]

Whats the specs of Yr CPU?

[sage canopy]

Idk, I'll have to check

[sage canopy]

https://act.hoyoverse.com/bh3/event/e20220808fanwork/index.html?utm_source=ingame&utm_medium=announcement find the download resources tab. That's where you can find the models

[grim goblet]

OHHHH

So THATS where it came from

XD thanks

[sage canopy]

They made it available for everyone ya know, ofc I didn't use it hahaha

If I did, I mightve won 💀

[grim goblet]

U couldn't mainly cuz of Yr cpu amirite

[sage canopy]

Yeah, that and animating that model is gonna be hell mate. Oh and I did make an ELYSIA MC model anyway, so it didn't really matter to me lmao

Even tho I kinda wanted to win the cash prize

3k crystals ain't it 💀

[grim goblet]

3k USD

KEKKK

That's a lot more than 3K Xtals

But more importantly theres

MEI FIGURINEEEEE

[smoky osprey]

Doodle before slep

[grim goblet]

~~Nice practice

Be sure to finish it up with colour tmr~~

[pseudo sail]

Art project ehheheh

[grim goblet]

Bronieee

[solid tapir]

Huh?

[lethal forum]

Elysia weapon

[scenic comet]

Bruhnie

[scenic comet]

What the hell . That doesn't look like her weapon I can't even make out the shapes.

[lethal forum]

😅damn i’m gonna to re do it

[left siren]

Blending modes

[scenic comet]

Yeah. You do that

[left siren]

The types of layers in an art program

Overlay makes things brighter
Multiply makes things darker
Color dodge make things more saturated

[whole cloak]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OAv1CkQR4o4
This might help with blending modes

[scenic comet]

That stuffs to complicated. Just you a pencil and paper. Less frustrating and easier to control

[whole cloak]

It’s not that difficult and the person asked about digital coloring tips

[left siren]

Mfw Blending modes are simpler to use

Than traditional eyeing out colors

Blending modes basically is letting the system do the balancing of colors for you, all you need to do is control how much color you add and what color to use

[whole cloak]

and that seemed a bit harsh, they didn’t ask for critique

[scenic comet]

Wasn't trying to be mean. Just saying

[left siren]

Careful with the wording

Intentions most of the time do not match the action

[scenic comet]

Bruh. I use swears normally. I am just more expressiveness that way. I don't use them with a bad intension unless the other person was being mean to me first.

[left siren]

That's not really the problem

The way you gave feedback to that person's work makes it look like it was a negative feedback

[lethal forum]

elysia staff V2 ( Hope i don’t make a spelling mistake)

[scenic comet]

I mean I can see what you mean. Maybe it was a bit mean to comment like that.

[left siren]

Exactly

[scenic comet]

Ye. Now its better

[left siren]

Miscommunication leads to misunderstanding so wording is important specifically in a platform where there's only text and you can't tell the tone of what they're trying to say

[scenic comet]

Yeah. I get it.

[grim goblet]

Wholllllyyy

Where'd u draw this on?

[lethal forum]

On a paper

[grim goblet]

With a chalk or smth?

[lethal forum]

No just a white pen

[grim goblet]

Ohhh

Any reason why u did the staff only and with an earth in the background?

[scenic comet]

Now that's nice

[lethal forum]

😅I hadn’t much place for the rest so I just do the staff

[grim goblet]

[raven ferry]

can u be counted as a content creator if u have participated and submitted a piece in a contest at least once lol

[solid tapir]

Wooo!!

Thank you for the advice everyone!!

Still working but she looks so much better already

[hardy yew]

Finished the drawing it looks bad but I’m lazy

[grim goblet]

Noiceeee

[limpid haven]

for game. trying to draw semi realistic lips

[grim goblet]

[obsidian jetty]

Some art ive done over the past few months

[scenic comet]

That's epic

[left siren]

I forgot what I was gonna draw so i just doodled instead

[grim goblet]

noice

[left siren]

Aight that white glow was pretty distracting

[scenic comet]

I want to draw someone. But I don't know who

[harsh violet]

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[dusky trail]

which clothe? default or swimsuit one?

[harsh violet]

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[dusky trail]

then here the base one

swimsuit one

maid one

and Hoh one

i sadly don't have her so i didn't do it like the other =3=

[harsh violet]

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[scenic comet]

Who?

[harsh violet]

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[scenic comet]

I mostly draw form suggestions. Like whatever people tell me to draw

[harsh violet]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[dusky trail]

then just pick one of the Elysia's reference i just post there

[quick oriole]

What if I started crying over hands

[uneven barn]

@late carbon, what is it?

[scenic comet]

Then your a weakling. Because instead of learning for your failure and getting better. You decide to cry

[late carbon]

@uneven barn

Here

[quick oriole]

Thank you doom slayer, your words have inspired me to do better

[scenic comet]

Anyway. Kalpass sketch. WIP

[uneven barn]

I see.

[full solstice]

wow it's almost like frustration is a normal part of the art process 🤯

[onyx breach]

i miss getting frustrated drawing 🙂

now its just a mixture of i need to finish this today and getting burned out

[full solstice]

ngl, it's actually kind of fun when you get frustrated, rage-quit, then come back and actually manage to get it right

drawing well feels so much better after struggling

[full solstice]

burn out is such a bitch

how u doing tho, i haven't seen you in the art channel for a while

[onyx breach]

am fine, just busy catching deadlines

[full solstice]

nice, gl with those

[onyx breach]

particularly these 2

guess im drinking enerfy drinks and coffee again this week

[quick oriole]

TRUE

[scenic comet]

Ok sketch finished. Time to shade

[celest notch]

I need to get that done, its gonna lock sick

[long tangle]

Mmm yesss

[celest notch]

WHAT THE FU

excuse me??

😭

[long tangle]

Is is legit one

[celest notch]

His age between 14 and 40

[long tangle]

What about the other one?

[celest notch]

20-25

[long tangle]

Ok that’s good

They both the same age

I was worried she didn’t come across like 12 if the guy looks like he could be 40

[vocal gulch]

It's time to create Bronya real Valkyrie

[craggy plank]

doodled this in 15 minutes and my oshi liked it im shaking and throwing up

[craggy smelt]

looks like kronii

[hardy yew]

Old art before and after touch ups

[craggy plank]

it is

[lethal forum]

😅shushang sketching

[grim goblet]

sus

[grim goblet]

SUUUSSSS

[lethal forum]

I think she looks good now

[grim goblet]

ye she does

[craggy smelt]

Eyes are just a lil out of place

[grim goblet]

ye the left eye

[lethal forum]

😅 i think i made her face a little bit to long

[grim goblet]

from artist's perspective left eye and from sus's perspaectuve right eye

[lethal forum]

😅 i think i'm maybe redo it later and make her neck shorten ( i'm pretty sure i have make a spellling mistake)

[whole cloak]

I think her eyes are a bit high and her ears shouldn’t be part of her face? Like the ears shouldnt link directly to the jawline

Also the shoulders are a tad small but the neck is fine

[lethal forum]

👍🏻 the Sus will be better next time

[grim goblet]

[dusky trail]

well not just the eye, it is the whole thing, if you flip it then you will look quite off

[craggy smelt]

Oi lets chill with the critics

[lethal forum]

I think himeko is little bit better

[grim goblet]

[oblique wing]

[craggy smelt]

👌

[scenic comet]

Noice

[split pagoda]

My ghost edit

[celest notch]

This is gonna take me an eternity 💀😭

[tender night]

how to draw boots from higher point of view-

[echo zealot]

my god that artstyle is so cute

[hardy yew]

its a great taste of something different and original, def hoping to see more

[tender night]

im so glad yall like it sm

[full solstice]

wowww i love the way u draw it's so expressive

[shell gulch]

Yoshi

[craggy plank]

mobi in process

[frosty oasis]

Oooh i love her expression omg

[hardy yew]

do i know what im doing when working on hair? no

[long tangle]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck7H3NCDwk8/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

oceanology_789

Sorry I reposted cause I accidentally put the the good ones in the back

Instagram

[hardy yew]

feels like her whole face was rearranged

[limpid haven]

needs courage to flip my own drawing

[scenic comet]

Looks good

[grim goblet]

the face of pain

[grim goblet]

DO IT

don't be scared

it's to help improve yr artwork

[dusky trail]

fear it

fear it so you want to improve and not see that anymore

[scenic comet]

Fear is temporary.
Improvement is ETERNAL.

[grim goblet]

YESSSS

^^^^

[grim goblet]

yessir mei

[sinful imp]

[limpid haven]

@cursive pine sorry

[cursive pine]

it's okie, don't worry

[oblique wing]

lamp

[limpid haven]

that's quite true to the reference
May I ask if you used curves or?

[left siren]

Now make it jump over the letter I

[sage canopy]

Curves? Wdym?

[limpid haven]

I guess not then? Just wondering if you are converting bezier to mesh for that smooth shapes

[sage canopy]

Yeah, I don't know how to do that 💀💀

[limpid haven]

thanks. Cool anyway, I found it quite difficult to do with shapes
I rely on mesh conversion quite a bit

[sage canopy]

Mesh conversion? Whats that?

I srsly dont know anything about advanced modeling in blender 💀

[limpid haven]

say I have a fancy curve here that is easy to edit without worrying about details
I can convert it into mesh, like the ones you have
Since you have a really clean and nice stand, I wonder if you used this. I am not good with smooth surfaces

[grim goblet]

basically, it's like converting an object into a "mesh", allowing u to shape it like 1. Helps to make smooth/evenly curved surfaces, as chibi mentioned

[oblique wing]

I can't hold the urge to draw Bronya as a Kamen Rider

[sage canopy]

Nah I made that curve handmade, but how did you make that curve tho? Like spawn a cube and use that convert curve?