art-discussion-and-wip

[shell gulch]

U cant really say u improved if u took the cheat route

[main umbra]

…improved at what? Writing?

[shell gulch]

Well good for you that u use it for that purpose

[hardy yew]

They're not truly your characters they belong to the ai

[shell gulch]

Unlike other ppl💀

[shell gulch]

They belong to other ppl

Which the ai just copied

[hardy yew]

True

[main umbra]

False. That simply isn’t how it works. …sigh. This conversation again.

[shell gulch]

So yea it's not rlly urs ur just feeding the ai the idea

And it just yoinks

[main umbra]

…also I wrote them.

I write more than just fanfiction, thank you.

[shell gulch]

Yea u wrote them but lemme ask you a question

Let's say there's 2 ppl

They had the same idea

Of a character

Do you think they'll have the same outcome?

[main umbra]

Obviously not.

[shell gulch]

Ai just takes the idea and collects existing information and makes that idea into an image

[hardy yew]

It's not ok to steal art and claim it's your "ocs"

[shell gulch]

So yea

[shell gulch]

I've seen alot of these

[main umbra]

You might want to tell that to someone who isn't an AI developer. XD

That is not how it works.

[shell gulch]

So how does it work?

Explain

[main umbra]

Will you listen if I do?

[shell gulch]

Yes

[main umbra]

Fine.

Stable diffusion then. It's the new hotness.

It's made of essentially three distinct models, and I don't fully understand all of them, so you'll need to endure.

But first off, there's the VAE. That's a variational autoencoder; the part that actually makes pictures. Sort of. What it does, is:

[shell gulch]

So I thnk I get it now

[main umbra]

• Given a 512x512 picture, it can compress it down to a 64x64 representation.
• It can do the same in reverse.
• The "variational" part: If you slightly tweak the values of said 64x64 ("latent space") representation, you get a new picture that's conceptually similar to the original. As opposed to, say, noise.
  This is basically a compression algorithm.

It's an "autoencoder": This means it learned how to do this by training on pictures scraped from the internet, let's say yours.

But anyway, once it's been trained, all it is is a compession algorithm. Like JPEG or PNG.

[shell gulch]

So yea ai art has stable diffusion which is

Txt to img

[main umbra]

No, you said you'd listen.

I haven't even gotten to that part yet.

[shell gulch]

Yea I was listening

I just wanted to search abt stable diffusion since idk what it meant

[main umbra]

Then there's the "U-net". That's an AI which was trained to, given a blurry picture, make a clean, un-blurred picture.

That actually describes the 'diffusion' part of stable diffusion. (The 'Stable' part is, uh, just a company name...)

The way they did this was by — again — taking everything they could get on the internet, blurring the pictures step by step, and training the u-net to reverse the blurring.

The really clever part of Stable Diffusion is they trained it on the latent space representation instead of the 512x512 original, so it's about 1000x faster... but it's the same idea.

[shell gulch]

Ic

[main umbra]

So okay. We've now got an AI with two parts:

• A really smart compression algo.

[shell gulch]

So basically it's just like

[main umbra]

• An un-blurring algo.

No, this still can't generate new pictures. 😛

[shell gulch]

Giving an idea to a commission artist

[main umbra]

What you need to realise, however, is that these were trained by 'showing' the training process each of the input pictures, once. It got perhaps a single bit of data from each.

That makes it just simply utterly impossible to plagiarize anything; the data isn't there.

We're talking JPEG at quality level 0.0001

Anyway. There's still the text-to-image part!

[shell gulch]

So yea lets say I'm wrong abt the plagiarism part since most commissions artist can't really draw without reference

[main umbra]

That's CLIP. Or more recently, BLIP and OpenCLIP. Same thing.

CLIP was trained to create captions for pictures.

...doesn't sound super useful?

But it's the nature of AIs that you can run them in reverse. So yes, in principle you can actually make a picture using just CLIP, but... the result is awful and unusable. Here, let me show you an example.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459198048686571528/817231550776213514/Z.png

[shell gulch]

Looks trippy as f

[main umbra]

My earliest attempt at getting an AI to draw Roza and Lili. I use them as a kind of benchmark. This was basically pure CLIP.

[shell gulch]

How I'd imagine the pov of a dude high on mushrooms

[main umbra]

(It has no idea who they are. My prompt was something along the lines of "A pinkg-haired and a blue-haired pair of twins, playing in a beautiful garden.")

[shell gulch]

[main umbra]

Anyway.

Instead of trying to generate a picture using pure CLIP, they chopped it in half. 🪓

These are all encoder-decoder models. That is to say: You have a human-understandable representation on one end, the AI condenses it to something smaller, and then spits out another human-understandable representation on the other end.

For the VAE, that's picture to latent space to (basically same) picture.

If you use the VAE as a compression algo, you can take a 4k picture of New York and compress it to 40kB, and when you decompress it it'll look basically the same as the original.

Pity the VAE is 500MB itself.

There are plenty of compression artifacts, of course, they're just things like buildings moving around instead of traditional JPEG artifacts.

...

As to CLIP, that goes picture to latent space to text.

Or in this case, text to latent space to... nothing.

When they trained the U-net of stable diffusion... remember, the bit the un-blurs?

They used pictures that had captions.

FEd the captions to CLIP.

And then used the latent space of clip plus the latent space of the VAE to decode the latter.

The result is an AI which can use both the text and (if you want) an input image to steer generation of an output image, by just repeatedly un-blurring it until it stops changing.

(...well, if you use DPM Adaptive. Few people do. It's slow. But same idea with fixed schedules...)

Thing is.

At no step in this process is anything plagiarized.

The AI uses (a) your text, and (b) the ability to heavily compress pictures.

[shell gulch]

So yea it's just basically

Giving ideas to a commission artist

I get the gist of it now

[main umbra]

And yes, it learned how to understand text by training on existing pictures.

But that's really all it is. A form of understanding.

[shell gulch]

But that's the problem tho

[main umbra]

...a kinda sucky form of understanding, if you try passing existing pictures through clip. XD

[shell gulch]

It's ruining the jobs of commission artists

[main umbra]

Yeah, kinda.

[shell gulch]

And ppl abuse it

[main umbra]

Yep.

Those are both problems.

[shell gulch]

That's why I hate it so much especially ppl who sell ai art and say it's theirs

💀

[main umbra]

Legally, it is.

Claiming they drew it is obviously false...

[shell gulch]

Let me rephrase

They're saying they drew it

[main umbra]

Which they didn't.

Liars are a problem. But not a new one, per se.

[shell gulch]

Also it's like spitting on the face of real artists

[main umbra]

I think that's the wrong perspective to take.

Most people playing with this would never have commissioned anything in the first place, ever. A good fraction will probably learn to draw on their own; it can be helpful for that, just not for me. Tried.

There's going to be more art in the world, even if most of it is AI-generated... and only gets looked at once.

[shell gulch]

The thing I hate the most js

[main umbra]

A good fraction of people using this, for that matter, are probably going to go to a commission artist using AI pictures as reference.

It's way too early to say if your workload will increase or decrease.

[shell gulch]

There are ppl calling themselves Ai "artists"

💀

[main umbra]

...I've seen some of their work.

[echo zealot]

wdym by that

[main umbra]

I sure as hell can't make anything as pretty with my AIs as Pharmapsychotic can.

[hardy yew]

Is ai art free?

[main umbra]

Whatever the heck he is doing, that does count as art in my book. It's just a different form.

[echo zealot]

yeah u kinda just got to a website and give it a prompt

[main umbra]

....ahaha

Sure. Try it.

[shell gulch]

Idk man

Ppl now adays are just out of touch

💀

[echo zealot]

as an artist i kinda have a small fear that we fr are gonna replaced by AI one day i mean everything will get replaced with AI honestly, just at this point even creative stuff like this is gonna fr get replaced

[shell gulch]

Coming up with random bullshit straight out if their arse

[shell gulch]

We start rallies

And that already happened

[echo zealot]

and then dbh plotline

[cyan plover]

imma ask again cuz idk where else to ask, anyone has the gif version of this? I wanna use it as my wallpaper

[main umbra]

There's no putting it back in the box now.

[hardy yew]

Ai will eventually replace everything

[shell gulch]

It happened to workers being replaced by machines

[main umbra]

...sure, and horses.

[echo zealot]

no way

ur joking my guy

horses??

[main umbra]

People are still around.

But the horse population...

[shell gulch]

But sure machines still need operators

But yea

[echo zealot]

i guess new jobs

[echo zealot]

what about it

[main umbra]

The arrival of internal combustion engines made horses non-viable. Their minimum wage dropped below their cost of living.

So they mostly got slaughtered.

I'm not exactly an AI optimist.

[echo zealot]

😨

whats the point of that

dude who

[shell gulch]

Horses are still pretty fucking valuable tho

[echo zealot]

who is making these descions

[shell gulch]

Like

The breeds

[main umbra]

Nobody.

[echo zealot]

[main umbra]

Economics.

Moloch.

[shell gulch]

Greedy ppl ofc

[echo zealot]

look bro i think i have a little bias because i am an equstrian

but cmon

[main umbra]

It's unlikely to come to that, because that would imply keeping AI itself under control.

[echo zealot]

slaughtering them???

whats the point

[main umbra]

Look up the horse population graphs in the early 1900s if you want a good cry.

[shell gulch]

The problem with ppl now adays they don't want to experience the hard part in life

[echo zealot]

i am sadly not the storm that is aproaching today

[shell gulch]

Which is very disappointing

[echo zealot]

wait wdym by this

[shell gulch]

Since that part is the best part

[shell gulch]

Let me give you an example

[echo zealot]

yeah?

[shell gulch]

There's a guy in a art discord serv I'm at

[echo zealot]

yuh

[shell gulch]

Not rlly the one u can call good

[echo zealot]

mhm

[shell gulch]

So he's asking is there any way for ai art to be a tool to help him improve easier

[echo zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-dmc5-wtf-pacefalm-vergil-dmc5-gif-26314269

[main umbra]

I like AI art, because art AIs produce something I can look at and call pretty. My day job is an AI that, instead, re-ranks search results so you click on the first one more often. At least that's useful, but sometimes it just up-ranks clickbait.

Every other significant AI I know of just preys on people

[shell gulch]

Which is pretty disappointing

[echo zealot]

oh my god

dude

you cant aquire something without practice etc

[shell gulch]

Yea

[echo zealot]

i mean dude, practice makes progress 😭

[shell gulch]

That's why

The serv im at

[echo zealot]

its an old term that is still true to this today

[echo zealot]

that shi infuriates me more than anything

[shell gulch]

Did a strict ban on ai art

[echo zealot]

nah fair

reminds me i should continue on my PE drawing

[main umbra]

But when I hear 'AI artists', I think things like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp3V81ho5q4&list=TLGGI5ZJVqW1rkIxMjEwMjAyMg

Which I'd hope you can at least agree is unique.

(Also this was state of the art six months ago. Oh how quickly things change.)

[shell gulch]

Any post of ai art (except post abt shitting on it ) will be deleted

[echo zealot]

the world is changing too fast and it scares me

[shell gulch]

And if u post ai art and say it's urs

U get perma banned

[echo zealot]

oh wow this is pretty cool

[hardy yew]

I love this kind of ai

[echo zealot]

fair honestly

also, are you guys more digital artists or traditional?

[shell gulch]

Like ai art is cool and kind of helpful

Trar

Trad

I'll migrate to digital in like

[echo zealot]

i use ai art to give me like a prompt of what im supposed to draw

[shell gulch]

2 years

[main umbra]

Writer. 😛

[echo zealot]

ohhhhh same

[hardy yew]

Digital

[shell gulch]

I just find references

[echo zealot]

i migrate between the two

[hardy yew]

I use picrews as reference

[shell gulch]

And ask help to ppl and ask if they can help Me find refs

[main umbra]

Actually, let me ask you a question.

[echo zealot]

yeah?

[echo zealot]

im my own references 😈

[main umbra]

If I wanted someone to clean up some AI art. Or completely redraw it, whichever; just as a reference.

Where should I ask?

[bleak grotto]

me

jk

[echo zealot]

idk about that

🤨

[shell gulch]

I'm not sure

[hardy yew]

Just ask someone who does edits

[echo zealot]

cuz i heard ai-art is very frowned upon in artists nowadays, either they just hate it or theyre scared of it

[bleak grotto]

!

[main umbra]

I don't know where to find anyone like that.

[hardy yew]

I have a couple friends on other servers that do that

[main umbra]

But, like. My one experience with commission art so far was that the guy took two months.

[shell gulch]

Also i wanna finish the line art when i get back home since my sched is so fkd

I have exams in like 8 days

[main umbra]

And I try to post a chapter a week at least.

[shell gulch]

💀

[echo zealot]

yo that looks sick

[main umbra]

While rarely knowing what I'll write more than 2-3 weeks in advance.

[echo zealot]

how long are your chapters?

[main umbra]

Typically around 8 kW

[echo zealot]

oH

wow

[main umbra]

I said I try. 😛

[shell gulch]

I have these for reference

[main umbra]

Sometimes I even succeed!

[shell gulch]

Thx

[echo zealot]

my chapter word counts always varies

i struggle to finish my art, honesly

💀

[shell gulch]

GL bro

[main umbra]

Yeah, that's normal. I've been anywhere from 2 to 10-ish.

Above that it really needs to be cut in half. XD

(Usually below as well, honestly.)

[shell gulch]

Don't worry it's a common fact that all artist has alot of unfinished drawings

[echo zealot]

REAL

[shell gulch]

I have alot

[main umbra]

• s/drawings/things

Recently I've been illustrating a story one of my friends is writing. He usually gives me about 60 minutes to do it ....

[hardy yew]

I fail to draw legs correctly

[shell gulch]

[main umbra]

(Yeah, that's the one the AI art above was for.)

[echo zealot]

my god how do you shade like that

or color

i genuinely cant

[main umbra]

(At that rate I can barely even get the characters right. Please stop, Snowie.)

[shell gulch]

Fk sake

[shell gulch]

1 year of practice

I studied color theory

[echo zealot]

how do you

study color theory

[shell gulch]

And what helped me the most is

Trying to experiment with it

[main umbra]

...like, color management?

[shell gulch]

On how it works

[shell gulch]

It's like

What colors are good with each other

[main umbra]

I have a feeling you don't mean BT.2020

[shell gulch]

It paid off very well

[main umbra]

It would be useful.

[bleak grotto]

color theory *

[main umbra]

Closest I've come is "mod(hue + 0.5, 1)"

[shell gulch]

One of my best colored drawings

[echo zealot]

MASTERPIECE

MWAH

THAT LOOKS SO GOOD

HUSAHASKJDE

i mean id show my art but like its from about 5 months ago 💀

[main umbra]

Would you like me to try to plagiarize that? Just to demonstrate that it can't be done?

[shell gulch]

Sure

This is how I colored 1 and half a year ago

[shell gulch]

Thx

[main umbra]

I do rather like it.

[echo zealot]

im embarrased of my own drawings i never understood color theory honestly,

[main umbra]

Okay, let's see. This is what CLIP thinks it's looking at...

[shell gulch]

I have very big colored one

A4 size

Lemme pic

[echo zealot]

i have an a3 piece of drawing

its seele

[shell gulch]

Don't be

[main umbra]

Congrats, you're a japanese artist.

[shell gulch]

You'll eventually improve

[shell gulch]

Mr world wide

[echo zealot]

An attempt was made

This was July iirc

[main umbra]

This is the img2img output using the same prompt. Which is at least amusing.

That's feeding your picture into the VAE, which I would say is plagiarization.

[echo zealot]

Jeez

[main umbra]

It just kinda loses most of the info.

[shell gulch]

Bruh

[main umbra]

...well, if I set CFG to 0...

This is what the AI actually saw.

[shell gulch]

💀

Jfc

[main umbra]

I know, right?

[shell gulch]

Pov of a meth addict

[echo zealot]

LMFAO

jesswe we need to cook

[main umbra]

Take two. Maybe with more steps...

Lolno.

[echo zealot]

tf

:spb

[shell gulch]

Wtf did they do to rushia

[main umbra]

But fine. Let me try to actually, um, use this AI to improve it.

(This is not really possible.)

Okay. Please also ignore how I'm generating 10-15 copies to find one that looks vaguely like your picture.

[echo zealot]

llmaoo

[shell gulch]

Lmao

[main umbra]

And how I edited the prompt significantly because CLIP just has no idea most of the time.

And added a negative one to avoid the worst awfulness.

[shell gulch]

Clueless ai moment

[main umbra]

The AI is always clueless. If you don't spend at least weeks playing with it, you won't get the results you wante.d

[shell gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-clueless-clueless-emote-wojak-disturbed-gif-24266075

[main umbra]

You still might get good-looking ones. They just won't be the ones you wanted.

[echo zealot]

real

[main umbra]

Like in this case. In fact I'm giving up.

This is the best result so far.

[echo zealot]

okay

😭

[shell gulch]

Why did they make her a yandere

[main umbra]

I was also amused by whatever this is...

[echo zealot]

wait this ones not that bad

[shell gulch]

Wtf

So basically now I know the 3 purposes of ai

[main umbra]

... I ...

[shell gulch]

Good purposes
Malicious purposes
Or if I wanna see how a meth overdose looks like

[main umbra]

I think I'm gonna stop now.

[shell gulch]

Certified 💀 moment

[main umbra]

But let's say I don't use your picture, and just run txt2img directly. What do I get?

...well, there's no real answer to that. It depends on the noise and RNG; there are four billion potential pictures.

Per prompt.

Here's a random outcome, though:

[shell gulch]

I just realised

[main umbra]

...which is, yeah, worse.

[shell gulch]

Chainsaw man is pretty fucked up with sounds

[main umbra]

Adding an existing, decent quality picture as input helps. Just not in the way you'd think.

I still don't do that, because it's plagiarism. I've long since figured out how to do it with my own prompts.

...and judicious use of Krita on the results.

[shell gulch]

Some looks decent tbh

[main umbra]

...and frequently img2img on pictures I made myself.

[shell gulch]

Some are just very

💀

[main umbra]

If you just give me the description, and ask me to make one myself... I guess I just spent the last five minutes doing that.

This one I like. 😛

Skull necklaces on her neck and a skull in her hair. Masterwork. Blush stickers. 1girl, sketch, sketch art, smile, green hair, realistic

But of course this is the sort of thing I'd look at once and then bin, normally.

[shell gulch]

Holy shit I never I knew I'd need a animation of pochita eating bread

This shit is cute

[shell gulch]

Looks like a dating Sim character ngl

[main umbra]

Looks like a sticker.

...

Potentially because I have "blush stickers" in the prompt.

And I'm not sure why I threw in 'bread', but now I'm hungry. XD

[hardy yew]

I’d eat that

[echo zealot]

The immense detail on Honkai characters makes me want to cry, after I finish I piece I always realise I’m missing something

[dusky trail]

well even in their own official art, the artist also draw with slightly change in detail

like this 2 art of Kongming here

one draw with longer sleeve and skirt

the distance of the hair accessory also different

or this Elysia, the artist remove the clothe part just show he can show Elysia's armpit

ty for that, using official art as reference can feel really weird sometime

[shell gulch]

Honkai valk devs are based

[dusky trail]

well in the end, what you want to show is the character, not just the outfit their wear

people not gonna stare at the outfit you draw and nitpick the spot you forgot

well unless it is the mole of the character...

since i forgot Rita and Himeko's moles from time to time

but ya, no need to stress yourself out over making it as perfect as possible

[craggy smelt]

back reading made my head ache

Im not gonna bring it up

[dusky trail]

i really want them to let you turn off the massive weapon in their back sometime

or if they just do this more often

sadly they only remove the hair from few of them

while some show more detail on the design, then some don't

but hey~ at least Honkai is a 3D game so you can see the model easier

try to draw 2D character without much way to see their back is even more annoying

[sage canopy]

https://giphy.com/gifs/UwzVXM9SYKGDZlkirN

[onyx breach]

ye especially with how it covers mobius back design

[dusky trail]

even more fun is Mobius also sit on that suitcase of her, covered her legging too

[shell gulch]

I feel u should study anatomy and perspective but nice art

The colors looks good

[dusky trail]

all of her art only make me want to give Kongming more love

[craggy smelt]

30 second sketch

the character's name is Hua cheng

Not gay but.... dude is actually really hot

[vale condor]

the file got corrupted... q-q now the sketch is gone..

welp i guess i gotta improvise then...

[frozen chasm]

Oh no...

[prisma vector]

Didn't expect to see Otto here

[teal knoll]

What if,,, honkai infection left scars? Concept sketches, Ft. Kiana

[hallow marsh]

Vill-V innit?

[echo zealot]

An attempt is happening

[rich igloo]

Yk i never thought of that :0
Lowkey kinda cool i like your idea

[dusky trail]

swimsuit is always fun to draw

specially when you can just make it looks like they wear nothing in the bottom if you cut off the right part

[hallow marsh]

Gotta agree it's fun to draw lol

Angling the ship wheel took me a moment to figure out though

[craggy smelt]

I like drawing swimsuits cause its fun to draw the muscles and curves of the body

drawing skinny characters are fun too

[dusky trail]

well that is why bodysuit is fun

sadly Honkai rarely have that type of suit nowaday

[craggy smelt]

yes

[dusky trail]

it only one in a blue moon now

[shell gulch]

[lost wagon]

https://twitter.com/zodiac_ws/status/1580585500779216896

十二獣Zodiac (@zodiac_ws)

omg she looks so happy :D

#manga #drawing #WIP

Twitter · Oct 13, 2022, 3:45 PM

Mia is smiling because she wants you to smile :D

be like mia and smile

[late carbon]

i refuse.

there is nothing to smile at.

[dusky trail]

there is always this kind of smile

[fast spindle]

where did you find this?

[long tangle]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CjqPa1kOs3G/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

oceanology_789

Two Tie interceptors based on a photo I took

Instagram

[celest notch]

You guys dont know how much i want to redo this shit

ill make it so fucking messy it will actually look better than that

[vocal gulch]

Don't rush - that's the most important thing. It is better to do a full-fledged work now and evaluate it, rather than erase the current result

[hardy yew]

🥺

[craggy smelt]

borgar

[dusky trail]

from interview video on their youtube channel

https://youtu.be/8PsmYQrPrBo?t=64

i just simple screencap it for reference

sadly they only start doing this around Rosemary's time so if you want to have everything, you gonna need to get the artbook

[dire ruin]

screaming how did you make that so good

[sinful imp]

[echo zealot]

It’s a work in progress

[vocal gulch]

in my opinion, we need to fix this part, because it will turn out that this part of the fabric will hang out

[craggy smelt]

ah yes, in other words, expose the boobs a bit more

[dusky trail]

aka, not enough sideboob

but well, if not, the boobs gonna be too on the side, may even dig in the armpit after all

when you shade the boob, it likely gonna connect to the armpit

[shell gulch]

The anatomy is very weird ngl

[dusty ocean]

Looks pretty good in my opinion! If you're alright with me providing feedback, I think the chest region could be adjusted to make it connect with the arms/shoulders more and have the white cloth on the chest be connected to the rest of the clothing

[celest notch]

Ive fixed it (what the fuck i have done 😭😭) (TW gore)

Should I draw aki this way but with bubblegum???

[vocal gulch]

This is for your taste and color. The main thing is to look and like

[late carbon]

🦅

[hardy yew]

I like the way you drew the blood

[celest notch]

Had some „blood” brushes from assets but ye it took me solid 10 minutes trying go make it look good💀

well but yes it turned out good

Makima surviving 10 gunshots and killing entire mafia just to remind denji to go on his daily walk be like

[vocal gulch]

• Time to run to work

[sage canopy]

https://giphy.com/gifs/GAao0MlB3fdiXFcKc1

[echo zealot]

Thank you 😎

[hardy yew]

her outfit is stressing me out so its break time take a wip

[brazen ocean]

THIS IS SO PRETTY OMG

[runic juniper]

Does this look like senti??

I wanna know before I color it

[onyx breach]

far from it

[craggy plank]

about to throw my tablet out the window this is so much pain

[worthy junco]

~✨The t in art stands for torture✨~

[craggy plank]

my hand is limp

but i push through

[dire ruin]

OMG KRONII<3

[craggy plank]

the love of my life

[craggy plank]

i mean it doesn’t look bad but in my opinion it lacks depth, and the spray like drops of blood stand out too much maybe bc it just is very see through where usually this much amount of blood would be hardly transparent i would try to match the idea of the original brush using free hand 😊

[near rampart]

maybe try fixing the eyes her pupils are a bit small, here’s a reference! (These are only suggestions you do not have to change anything if you don’t want to! ^^)

[craggy plank]

more than anything i’d say it’s the hair but i do agree with trying to fix the eyes as well 😊

[runic juniper]

The pupils were on purpose lol!! Thanks tho :)))

[craggy plank]

sentis bangs are much longer maybe that’s why it doesn’t really resemble the character

[runic juniper]

Ahhhh ok I’ll go fix that

[craggy plank]

i like your art style!

[near rampart]

that’s so pretty

[worthy junco]

Kroniii our beloved

Just realized it was her

[craggy plank]

the only character i can draw properly 😭

well and mumei

[worthy junco]

Kronnii looks good so farr

Don't forget to take breaks

[craggy plank]

yeah my hand is killing me so i might finish it tomorrow

well seeing kronii fans here i drew her once being inspired by mobius a little bit 🥹

[vocal gulch]

-Well hello, Bronya!
Meet my new friend: the Watch Keeper!!!

[unkempt wing]

Concept Outfit elisya herrscher (WIP)

And concept outfits mei raiden BS

[craggy plank]

update on the wip

[hardy yew]

i had to redo everything but the head, face, and hands

[craggy plank]

how do you work with different color guide lines 🥹🥹🥹

[hardy yew]

i would go CRAZY if i didnt color code things on such complicated designs

[craggy plank]

i think i would go crazy if i had different color code lines it’s too much for my poor eyes 😭😭

but then i cant draw full bodies

[rancid niche]

Wait do u have twitter ur artstyle is too familiar

[celest notch]

Youre right but my point was to lack the realism and make it look it in the worst way possible

i may try bluring the blood a bit but thank you

[hardy yew]

nope, i got off socials like twitter earlier this year

[rancid niche]

Ah alright

anyway my Elysia ugly sketch

[forest mantle]

best art ive seen in long

[forest mantle]

OOHH

i wish i had 10 percent of that talent

[robust mesa]

still better than what i’ll draw in the next amount of years

[hardy yew]

Sushang doodle 🍣

[lethal forum]

[craggy plank]

done i think

[dusky trail]

now go make an alt version with her show her fang and eyes glowing

[craggy plank]

her eyes always technically glow in my art

considering this is without the top layer

[dusky trail]

you usually use a strong color for the glow so i never notice

[craggy plank]

i never post my art without the top layer so it’s understandable 😊

[dusky trail]

you usually see gold, purple, pink for glow anyway

then again

there also Black Rock Shooter

[craggy plank]

that depends on the eye color actually

i did that glow effect once but absolutely hated the outcome with my art style 😭😭

[dusky trail]

then time to do the most fun thing artist like to do~

torture themself until the outcome actually look good

[craggy plank]

if you like the glow effect then i have an unfinished wip for you 🥹🥹

[dusky trail]

i like armpit, rib and thigh

so i rather draw char in shadow

can't see those ribs if they are after all

[craggy plank]

cant draw full bodies unfortunately and i’m not looking forward for my anatomy attempts

i like drawing hands tho

[dusky trail]

i rarely bother with full body, unless the pose is neat to use

like this thing i made

right before Brightest Blight got took down...

fun

[craggy plank]

yeah i wouldn’t even try and bother 😭😭

[dusky trail]

you just have to slowly draw them part by part~

i like to do that more than just try to come up with full body one

or even more fun option is, find the kind of part you like so you want to draw it more

but well, when you draw, you gonna have to deal with annoying part eventually

[hardy yew]

Jhonny

[onyx breach]

tnx to cn fangays they had to take it down, all that money they paid for myth & road to make that song went to waste

[dusky trail]

also wasted the stigmata art

the bunny Yae we will never get

then again, global has plenty of stigmata art never make it over here

[scenic comet]

Mobius sketch. I gave her a pet snake

[dusky trail]

should just go all out like Fuxi and Nuwa

i should draw those two sometime too

[scenic comet]

Ah shit I forgot the nose

[dusky trail]

that say, i like how the snake crawling under her armpit

wink wink

[scenic comet]

[prisma vector]

Yea thats shame that it got removed

[hardy yew]

Uh just wanted to ask if this looks good or not :3 ps: not done yet

[prisma vector]

Yea it looks good kinda scary too

[hardy yew]

Thanks ❤️

[dusky trail]

the eyes are a bit uncanny when you look up close but i guess it also help work with it

[hardy yew]

Also also i drew raiden shogun in chibi style but i feel like i should change something

[dusky trail]

her left arm

because it is bend in really odd way right now

[hardy yew]

Lol i know

[dusky trail]

or even

[hardy yew]

Oooo thank you . The coloring and stuff is good tho right?

[dusky trail]

the hair's brightness part is a bit off but that mostly because i used different style for it

so nothing too off right now

i like this kind of of brightness more

it just give the hair a more sharp texture

[hardy yew]

Yeah i like that shading too but i also for some reason like jagged hair style like kinda messy

[dusky trail]

or even just this for chibi style

[hardy yew]

Im still trying to improve so thank you

[dusky trail]

well you don't have to make it too jaggy

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/783078378872897608/1031243205326413944/8264f29ad4c1551f57262db776f47dff.jpg?width=594&height=625

like in this one, the artist just use more dot like

[hardy yew]

This is also hair that I drew

Maybe more like what your saying

[dusky trail]

the dots bellow her eyes stand out in really odd way

[hardy yew]

I like making weird characters

[dusky trail]

well not weird weird, more like the lineart of it is too strong than people would draw their attention to that than the character

[hardy yew]

Maybe if i made the opacity lighter on lineart

[dusky trail]

well it also because of the hair shading make it rather blurry, cause the thick lineart stand out even more

you could try change the lineart color to match it more i guess

like here, so the lineart won't be too strong

[wispy patrol]

https://youtu.be/aIvnu9ziz6U not mine

[shell gulch]

Gif of my current WIP

[timid vector]

this took so long 😭😭

https://twitter.com/ajum1s/status/1579907668843851776?t=dy97tcnbz4ykt-hlNF15IA&s=19

aju (@ajum1s)

royale high comission #csp #ComingOutDay #royalehigh #rhcomission

Twitter · Oct 11, 2022, 6:51 PM

[craggy plank]

mobius wip

[hardy yew]

some suzuran drawing WIP

[scenic comet]

Well. I finished it yesterday but forgot to post so here it is

[fading citrus]

Im trying to get back at drawing again, does the proportions or perspective look wierd?
Im open to criticism
(Btw, ignore those texts, i was drawing in my class cuz i was bored)

[dusky trail]

well from that angle, the ground is a bit too lean to one side

and that cause the character to be slide off too

so it would be more like this

but the shell and his legs would be bigger too if that is the kind of angle you aiming for

also, not sure what that is but if it is a beach umbrella then that too is too lean to one side

[fading citrus]

Yooo thx for the fast reply!!

Really appreciate the detailed explanation 👌

[dusky trail]

you could also make the clouds spread further away so it won't became a really low angle

[scenic comet]

That looks like a clocked stickman. Flying

[vocal gulch]

@scenic comet , work for the first time will go. I advise you to study anatomy now in order to calmly draw characters. Nothing needs to be done about shadows. This is a more extensive topic, where you already choose what they will be

[scenic comet]

Thanks. I will try.

[fading citrus]

Bruh i cant unsee it now

[scenic comet]

Your welcome

[fading citrus]

Ya'll are fun af

Imma sure to post something again after i draw again in class

[scenic comet]

Cool.

Here is some more. Random art

[shell gulch]

Nice

[dreamy cypress]

wip

[vocal gulch]

• Hey, dude. Nice sword

[scenic comet]

Thanks??

[vocal gulch]

please?

[scenic comet]

What?

[vocal gulch]

What?

[scenic comet]

Why did you say please?

[vocal gulch]

into rhythm

[scenic comet]

Ok

[scenic comet]

My favorite emote/emoji

[vocal gulch]

OK

[night loom]

Anyone made a MMD of new mobius costume with ankha dance?

[prisma vector]

Idk

[untold jay]

a little wip of seele

[robust mesa]

looking good

[untold jay]

thx !

[fading citrus]

I draw in my class again

I love to draw poses and that's the only thing im good at
I never tried drawing faces so im bad at drawing facial features

This guy's pose feels bit wierd to me, any tips so can i improve it?

[hoary niche]

if anyone wants to top up for me ill draw something for you

[dusky trail]

well if you love draw battle pose then you can check out this artist

https://twitter.com/sakino_shingetu

they also made a lot of those which is really fun to look at

[fading citrus]

Yoo thanks man

Im gonna have fun tryna copy these

[echo zealot]

Yours truly, Dante, The Legendary Devil Hunter

I tried my best with the multiply and effects, but probably next time gotta work on that anatomy

[fading citrus]

That eyes reminds me of Bleach artstyle

[oblique wing]

something something dr mei but himeko

[dusky trail]

guess she would be Dr HiMEIko, ehhhhhh

[prisma vector]

🫠

[fast spindle]

Animal anatomy?🤯🤯🤯

[hardy yew]

Morbos doodle

Weapon pls come home

[dusky trail]

her weapon refuse to pop up for me, while i did manage to get her stigmata's set...

[hardy yew]

Same

I've done like 90 pulls already

[vocal gulch]

• Boy
• Boy
• Boy

[oblique wing]

Some difficult design practice

[hardy yew]

lining bad

[echo zealot]

really? damn thanks

[torn pond]

I need help with hair, plz

[hardy yew]

I forgot how to shade and it ruined this drawing

[dusky trail]

which hair?

[torn pond]

As you can see, the character is bald because I can not find hairstyle that would suit her.
If you have any idea, plz share it with me

[dusky trail]

well if you going for a crazy character then a boy-ish cut that make her hair more spiky should do

[torn pond]

That's a good idea, thanks

[dusky trail]

not that look like a really fun outfit to draw

[torn pond]

IT LOOKS INSANE

better than her original outfit

[dusky trail]

depend on how the leg look

[sinful imp]

[torn pond]

but still, I love her braid

[dusky trail]

well her stigmata reward also look good too

[torn pond]

[craggy smelt]

Actually works well

But im pretty sure some artists make them longer

[torn pond]

You want to draw or kill someone with this?-

[craggy smelt]

why not both

[prisma vector]

I don't think it can kill

[craggy smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/keanu-keanu-reeves-reeves-keanu-r-gif-23884112

[dusky trail]

kill first then use their blood to draw

[vocal gulch]

Raiden Bronya VS Amstrong Apocalypse

[dusky trail]

hahh~ everytime i want to draw other Seele, i wish they just give you the option to swap around Seele on the bridge

her design is completely flip around compare to Seele this time too

oh well, i only plan to draw simple one this time so i can just skimp through some detail

[lyric iron]

Wish we had more seele outfits or battlesuits tbh

Also your art is really nice

I love your style

[dusky trail]

well since Seele is the center of the current event re-run

who know, if they continue it, she may get a new outfit

or heck, even a new battlesuit for captain-verse

[grave nymph]

sameee

[sage canopy]

https://giphy.com/gifs/rWQbVJFf1mDHxnbLa2

[dusky trail]

do want to finish the comic today but sadly rather busy so guess i will finish the rest tomorrow

[misty oasis]

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/102063699

Yelan

[fading citrus]

"Ai-Chan, turn off Bronya's pain inhibitors"

[robust mesa]

it looks a little bit off at the back but its cool

[torn pond]

thanks

[craggy smelt]

Shik i know no one asked for critics and im rly sorry for this but... I only wanted to point out that her back is too straight

[dusky trail]

don't worry~ i kinda know that too

but since i just made it for a short comic so i don't bother to go for too detail

i just made the other one bend more instead

tehee~

but ya, if i take my time with it, i would likely do more with her may even color it but i just want to make a short one so kinda ignore some part

maybe i will fix it after i get everything else done

[robust mesa]

[torn pond]

I drew Veli some time ago
but now I want to ask you
don't you somethink looks incorrectly in this? I have no idea what is wrong with this drawing, but somehow it's weird to look at

[dusky trail]

probably because the head is too off to the side

like if you throw a simple frame like this, it is really easy to see her left shoulder is a lot wider than the right

[mint walrus]

help.....

[oblique wing]

something something pony tail senti

[robust mesa]

i think its this thing right here

[torn pond]

thanks

[torn pond]

oh, you are right!
thanks

[fading citrus]

This reminds me of Ayanami Rei plush meme

[rancid gazelle]

https://twitter.com/mnoAkii/status/1583385032580042754?t=dQNth49_K2wKdZkm6Cts-g&s=19

アキ (@mnoAkii)

Lesser Lord Kusanali
#GenshinImpact #Nahida #原神 #ナヒーダ

Twitter · Oct 21, 2022, 9:09 AM

[frail path]

me and my Sutober 🥲

[quaint patrol]

Beautiful

[craggy smelt]

making a fanart

of Isabella

[near mantle]

this is whatever how u imagine it to be

[lost wagon]

https://twitter.com/zodiac_ws/status/1583831753021456384

十二獣Zodiac (@zodiac_ws)

done with the video editing!
now I just have to wait for one thing to finish everything up and upload it on yt :D
(PS: I've 0 experience in video editing : c )

#manga #drawing

Twitter · Oct 22, 2022, 2:44 PM

[hardy yew]

Wip..

[lyric iron]

I love the colors

[hardy yew]

Thank u!

[hardy yew]

havent finished the linework but its taking so long

[celest notch]

After 20 minutes I found a good pose

[celest notch]

I aspire to be that person who adds super-looking dragons on pinterest

[hardy yew]

my hand hurts

[fading citrus]

Gorgeous

I hope i get her stigma and weapon on next rerun

[oblique wing]

too lazy that I'm not even done with this sketch after 6 hours

[hardy yew]

Critique this please also how do I make it look more like draculara

[shell gulch]

Change art style and make the face bigger

[frail path]

Almost finish my Eden 🫶🫶🫶✨

[main umbra]

Meanwhile, in fanfic illustrations...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/768172256915619890/1033578190444167188/unknown.png

I spent too long on this to not realise I'd forgotten to make the tablecloth straight, so instead Bella is clenching it rather hard.

...these two still have a lot of healing to do.

[dusky trail]

i'm more bother with the two different style it generate than the table straight or not

[onyx breach]

ai casually stealing other ppl's art and plastering it to another artist's art hoping it sticks

[mighty furnace]

i drew mobieden

[lethal pollen]

Prepares fireworks

[near mantle]

This is so cute

[molten flume]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Phantasmaliagon/status/1584123155932930048

Zwei (@Phantasmaliagon)

Asuna
#BlueArchive #ブルーアーカイブ

Twitter · Oct 23, 2022, 10:02 AM

[halcyon rune]

https://twitter.com/timepause_/status/1584134005468717058 any suisei simp?

TimePause (@timepause_)

#ほしまちぎゃらりー
Suisei in black

Twitter · Oct 23, 2022, 10:45 AM

[lone wagon]

Been practising my values but I keep revisiting this art and keep changing stuff and adding stuff to it. I'm stuck not being able to colour it until I understand my values better.

[hardy yew]

The movement on the hair is so cool, and the perspective is just🤌

[oblique wing]

Ah yes, man-made horror beyond human comprehension.

[oblique wing]

I didn't expect it to turn out to be this good

[lone wagon]

Should be practicing value but i ha a new idea so couldn't resist sketching it out xD It's space like this time

[worthy junco]

Put back those gruberers /hjk It looks great so far and nice feet btw.

[lost wagon]

https://twitter.com/zodiac_ws/status/1584475087956103168

十二獣Zodiac (@zodiac_ws)

making #YuGiOhTCG #fanart :D
soon I can start coloring it
#WIP #drawingwhileblack

Twitter · Oct 24, 2022, 9:21 AM

done with the rough value of ecclesia

[molten flume]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Phantasmaliagon/status/1584757235712155649

Zwei (@Phantasmaliagon)

hasumi
#ブルーアーカイブ #BlueArchive

Twitter · Oct 25, 2022, 4:02 AM

[oblique wing]

bir

[rancid niche]

Bro your perspectives are so cool

[scenic comet]

Bro has a feet fetish

[dusky trail]

is Yuusuzu showing off her fetish to the world again?

[fair flare]

hope I can finish this in time

[onyx breach]

deadline?

[fair flare]

Halloween

[lunar sonnet]

Can I get some input on the proportions of the body?

[dusky trail]

her upper body is pretty large but her waist is rather small and short

created a really disconnect between her upper and lower body

i guess you also try to do a perspective angle for her arm but you do it too much so her arm just shrink really badly

there are a lot of way to do the frame but here is one, just draw a hourglass like shape to get a more balance for the torso

and a good way to check if the proportion seem wrong

is just to compare with the head, if it is bigger than any part of the torso then you have a problem

[lunar sonnet]

Then how about this? @dusky trail

[dusky trail]

try to move the head in her chest and her butt

you will see it is way too big in compare

[dusky trail]

also, while the waist is a bit better there (still recommended you to make it longer) but you can see from that line

the chest is a bit too far out

[lunar sonnet]

This then?

[dusky trail]

seem better, i only have problem with her head and her right feet now

[lunar sonnet]

Yeah, I'll fix that foot as I go along refining in

I just left that there for now as a basic shape to go along with

What about her head?

[dusky trail]

if i follow the line on the back of her head, it make her head rather... ellipses shape? rather than round

so her face will look bigger than the back of her head there

[lunar sonnet]

I figured the hair on the back part of her head shouldn't tightly follow the contour

Otherwise it would feel too flat?

[dusky trail]

it is to keep the shape more balance, as of now, her front face would have too much room in compare to the rest of her head

if you leave some room like this, the head would have balance shape and won't make her look like her bang is too high

though you may also want to scale down her head as it is bigger than her butt right now

[lunar sonnet]

You mean this?

[dusky trail]

try to make a larger arc to connect to her bun...? in the back

from the look of those line, i guess you still have problem with drawing large arc then

[lunar sonnet]

Ig I'm just trying to avoid making overly large edits

Especially since I'm still trying to decode everything you're saying

[dusky trail]

well to make it short then it is

"move her head into her torso, if any part is bigger than her head, then it is the problem"

let say like this

then you can see her chest is too wide in compare

while her butt is too small

oh, don't worry about the waist

that part is pretty much depend on the artist but you could get it as long as the head too

[lunar sonnet]

I don't think the red parts match with her head though?

[dusky trail]

oh i count the back of the head too

[lunar sonnet]

I was attempting to measure it like this and this is what I end up with

[dusky trail]

you only need to measure it from the neck down

[lunar sonnet]

I've seen in most drawing books the measurement starts from the chin though?

Something like this

[dusky trail]

well that kinda nightmare fuel

[lunar sonnet]

Then this

[dusky trail]

but anyway, you can see all the heads are smaller than the torso there

[lunar sonnet]

Yeah, but based on the height I see that the head length should go from chin to nipple, then nipple to navel, then navel to groin

[dusky trail]

when we use anime style, we have a bit more freedom when it come to length, i just use the head to compare to the size of her body

that is why i say if the head is bigger than any part of the body, than the size is off

[lunar sonnet]

I also see anime artwork that uses that measurement though?

[dusky trail]

i just mean it is more flexible

you probably seen an artwork with rather short body and long leg

or otherway around

muhh it is hard for me to explain properly since i already draw enough to get the feel of it on my own

not to mention each artists also have their own way to measure thing too

oh well, i think the chest being too wide is the only major problem i can see now anyway

then maybe someone else will pop up later and explain it better than i did

[lunar sonnet]

Might also be because I'm a little too hesitant to make her ass too big

[dusky trail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/783078378872897608/1034523083517743144/unknown.png?width=424&height=601

i think it is fine like that

you can use the heads as marking or get the line about the same as her chin

[lunar sonnet]

Tried to redraw the entire thing, something like this then?

Also adjusted the neck but I didn't screenshot that

[dusky trail]

did you also adjust the waist a bit?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783078378872897608/1034527840928026654/unknown.png

it seem to look better in this one

ya seem like you make it shorter and less curvy in the new one

well from the look of it, the hair gonna covered most of the back anyway

so it is rather optional but i would make the waist a bit longer, since with the new one, her waist became too thin compare to her torso

[lunar sonnet]

So put this line a little further down?

[dusky trail]

just make it more curve rather than digging in her waist

[dusky trail]

ya the problem now is you make it dig in too much, create a really off feeling when you see how wide her shoulder and butt are

just a simple line like this would do

the way i usually do it is just draw those 2 line, then connect it with a small curve line there for the waist

then add more bump for the shoulder and butt then there you go

[lunar sonnet]

?

?

[dusky trail]

seem fine enough

[dusky trail]

oh one more thing though

you don't need this part of the knee

it shouldn't be visible in that angle

[deft cairn]

Raiden Shogun OwO https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/102238502

[rancid niche]

looking very good so far

[hardy yew]

Female kaeya 🧍🏻‍♀️

[scenic comet]

[near mantle]

[scenic comet]

[near mantle]

beautiful isn’t it

[scenic comet]

NO

[shell gulch]

[warped musk]

💀

[oak mortar]

mmmmm ugly HoS wip

[dusky trail]

if you call that ugly then you gonna make some artists here question they meaning of life

[onyx breach]

🙄

[shell gulch]

Looks fine imo

Just need to work on the anatomy

[oak mortar]

yeah, i really suck at anatomy but whenever I study anatomy, it only takes me like 20-ish minutes to give up

[fresh linden]

is the first one a drawing or a real person i cant tell😭

[scenic comet]

That's a war crime

[oblique wing]

shading practice

[hardy yew]

Work on progress

[celest notch]

No… I dont want to color..

[hardy yew]

That would make a nice tattoo

Made the eys a bit too far apart but im also too lazy to change it

[near mantle]

LMAO, I think so

[near mantle]

lol, not mee

[near mantle]

u haven’t seen ugly yet

[hardy yew]

Criticize this art

[languid mist]

Me and a friend are working on our own fan plot of HI3 involving a new set of Herrschers all named after the 7 deadly sins

This is Charlie, I wont go too far into his story but he's mostly just a spiteful 14 year old that needed someone to blame for his family's deaths so he decided god must pay for it

He's dubbed the Herrscher of Wrath as seen in image 1 and 2

3-4 are images of a conceptual ELF
(using blood embraces art as reference)
Elf charlie takes from his original design since he used to be a genshin character

5 is a conceptual Battlesuit I named quantum runner

Image 2 n 3 was done by a friend @royal spindle god bless them

I might redo his hand wing things to incorporate the spider motif i want him to have

[celest notch]

thank

[fading citrus]

Hi its me again, the guy who only draw while his class is in session,

Can someone give me tips how to draw a fluttering effects on clothes? I want to make it look like his robe is fluttering

[dusky trail]

just draw some random U shape

then add in some line to connect to the upper part of the clothe

done

[fading citrus]

That's a wise advise 👌

[dusky trail]

or how about an M shape like so

[fading citrus]

Never thought it would be that simple thanks again shikniful

[dusky trail]

along you remember there should be a curve downward part like this

you can pretty much throw anything at it and it likely still come out fine

[fading citrus]

I'll keep that in mind when i draw again in class tq

[dusky trail]

it kinda the same apply with the clothe wrinkle, throw in random shape then adjust it after

but of course you don't have to put too much wrinkle, it more or less depend on how you like it

[fading citrus]

Yea thx for the extra advice, I've also been wondering on how to add wrinkles in clothes

[molten flume]

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[ivory linden]

What's your guys opinion on this?

That's senti if it wasn't obvious enough

[robust mesa]

not bad at all but her head does look a little pointy

[ivory linden]

It's bcs of the shading is much more rounder up close 😢

I think it looks better now fixed the shading a bit (ignore the red head thingy I was messing around a bit)

[dusky trail]

the way the thigh is way shorter in that angle certainly bother me a bit

[ivory linden]

Oh that isn't fully coloured I just colored it in real fast so I could get the idea of what was going on in the drawing I'm still shading hair rn;))

[dusky trail]

=3=

[ivory linden]

I'll fix that when I'm done with the hair

[dusky trail]

then, it just "she isn't smug enough to be Senti"

[ivory linden]

THAT'S MY CURRENT PROBLEM RN

I'm trying to draw a smirk and it just keeps turning into a smile

[dusky trail]

try to narrow her eyes

give the eyebrown some curve also add more to her expression too

the mouth isn't the only part you use to give emotion to the character after all

[ivory linden]

I'll try that thank you!

[dusky trail]

wide eyes + smug usually for a more energetic pose than relax pose you use right now

[fading citrus]

Senti drip 👍

[ivory linden]

I think this looks more smugish? I'm gonna draw her a proper mouth in a bit

Ignore the random mouth I was trying out how to draw a smirky mouth💀

[dusky trail]

ya adjust the mouth and it should be fine