#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
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50
alright
It's a full Valk so yeah 50
wait lemme calc for myself
Yeah
i have SS1 SW
I don't have her 
504
i don't remember exactly but i think i unlocked her last year with the cny box

then S2 with whenever they gave out frags
She's 640
i got her from login at some point
might at least get from wt and use box for sw
but i would say for box wait for beta
I'm actually that SW dkey opens up the door for older valks to receive a dkey, though I will be feeling mixed if the p2 tall dudu is just a skin for PE on the same patch she receives a p2 dkey 
if it happens with too many valks, it opens up pandora's box
She's Dorm level and ER xtals at least
you know what dks do to stats
Then I get a free +10 since DKey
Imagine them whels having +400 atk from the casuals

Each dkey = another -10 atk gap, thankfully I never experienced this gap in RL so far
for me its like
s0 (default) →
s2 or something from WT before 8.8 →
ss if i use 2025 selector →
ss1 if i use 2026 selector →
ss2 if i get frag from spending 
sounds horrible
dang, SW dkey is real 
Maybe that’s on purpose and they’re trying to kill S0+1 meta
i still don't wanna use selector unless in panic
better than S0 tho
I'm tempted to get SN frags from spending to get her SSS 
Make dkeys the new sp valk
yeah but i doubt rl peeps will matter bc slack
and this is ass for nirv so 
edited
And F2Ps can only afford to pull dkey syncs no s ranks
2 away from either FHD or AF
say that and get a maldy bracket


i promise u all the hoh lovers i met in rl don't have any more atk than my s2 ass atk hoh
so far i haven't seen strats gated behind dk syncs
but some potential effects are already scary enough
like what horb's has
next patch too expensive
u havent been around long enough thats it
considering we would get a mini spending patch after
next patch horrible for newbies and -10 for non syn pullers
Haven't gotten a sweaty bracket in a bit
But I'll probably will now since I'm in Nirv again
Just skip mini and wait for big one in 9.1

skip = flop
gl broski
skip = demoot to sinful
It's a good cycle at least 
i wished dkey syns never existed tho
eh summer patch lines up in 8.8 or 8.9?
I have skipped every mini and missing xys since apparently hoyo wants to gatekedp xys from appearing anywhere else
Tbh I wish the stellar keys just had the +10 only

And not +20
new players can go two ways, unironically recommending starter banners or rush to silverwing in WT and pull DK
You didn't pull on 8.4? Or went for lamp skin
Oh that makes sense
Noodles was broke
def not latter bc limited funds for wt shop but at least she would be top prio
HoRb is telling me to sleep 
AL is more uncommon than AW 
I'm more geared towards SN since I'm at 33/50 before I SSS her
horrible
Yes
WC dk when
I just realized I'll be poor after 8.7, so can't afford both aop and dkey so skip aop for dkey unless I get really lucky
Probably use whatever I get from spending the carnival pulls on SN frags
You said DK was 5.8 for HoR
ig wait for beta
but dk at least still got value regardless of how sw is
carnival pulls so i can buy the 100 frags
Plus I always go for dkeys, I love dkeys alot
I have not skipped a single dkey since I started playing
nice
I like dkeys in p2 since they're cheap and affordable
I skipped Flawless Benediction
Waxing Moon, would have been a bad idea since it mainly appeared in reruns since I started in Spork patch
And they usually give Valk for said dkey for free in someway to let us f2ps use the dkey
p1 dk same supply as p1 gear?
Aop also gonna be a bit cheaper I guess
Maybe it's a 8.8 exclusive thing since no new Valk
less than valk tho
I'm at 53 pity for Aop cause of Chen
There's not a Valk for me to pull on 8.8 though
i still say wait for beta
should be soon
Yeah
even for me spending decision will be delayed for beta
i won't really have use for s sq aop rn anyways
and i don't think i need 4* kia elf rn either
I have 4s kiaelf for the teams I would use s songque aop in
For example my upcoming sparkle
im thinking s sq for the ari mainly
also for ice valks but i rarely use em outside hle shill
Carnival is gonna be a tough decision on what to pull 
i still dc for rl though
I'm only missing a aop for ws/wod 
Don't have anything for WS/WoD/LoA
didnt u get Thel wep?
i mean ig for vita its interesting because of sw, i still see other valks having more value but ill wait for ppl opinion
Meant Aop
Thought about splitting the 20
Throw 10 at Vita then throw the other at FDD
ig still wait for beta
if you miss first round u have second round
and there no fdd shill coming so soon
Or throw the full 20 at FDD and see if I get the same outcome as 8.4 
Alright
smh so whel
I’m personally going for vita in hopes of getting dupe for the SS3, I haven’t gotten anything from carnival before so I don’t have high hopes
I don't have hopes
i mean its not like ill get anything but mei proved me wrong
I know I'm not gonna get lucky
so s2 fdd or s2 lp sounds tempting
S2 lp gets u easy 0sec ag
You already have S2 PAWS 
but at least i have the valks this is slightly tempting than to who don't have em
Only one I don't have is Vita
ngl im a fraud s2 haver i haven't made use of its tf or extra weap properly unless there's no specific use 

Oh it's the couple first 

I mean there are times I have to turn off the Global Time Fracture on FDD's breath skill
yeah tbh idk if ill make use of the tf
It's more useful in MA
for ma will be useful for if i wanna put bita there but i don't anymore tbh
doubt I get anything from the Carinval but, assuming you get a dupe with the free 20, what'd be better here?
SS Vita, SS BFD, S2 Badum or S2 PAWS

Vita or FDD
prob BFD?
figured
Badum's S2 is mainly for MA purposes
vita
cora ss dont mean much
u alr s2 sounds like it
badum is more ma stuff but not too notable
paws for extra wa
idk ss vita
i think fdd ranks beyond s2 is dps
I do the same then?
I’m just glad vita post asc is still seeing use especially in WS 
Yeh
I got S2 Vita by accident. S2 BFD was intentional tho
Yeah true
And sw dkey being WS = more vita use
I got S2 FDD by accident
for horb and sw unless sw don't want bita
thats a if
for mse but u do have a full team alr
Surely my vita being SS2 Will compensate for my sw being SS1 on shill 
she is likely to run Vita tbh
afaik Vita still run on every WS team
Yeah
The breach does sound nice
nah depends on rank and syn
Tbf the recommended team for SW is SW HoRB Vita
HLE
tbf mse don't really use bita not bc of breach but bc dsa too good plus mse is kinda selfish on field time
Oh right I forgot she had WS
recommended by who
It's just what hoyo showed
the recommended pic in the pins
Hoyo didn’t have vita for silverwing
It's SW HoRb HLE
Only for horb
then it can just be ignored
Isnt the pic more like examples and not reccomendations
Oh
recommendations r trash 90% of the time
Hoyo has bad recommendations anyways

anyways last time we had fire tona, and basically badum horb was better unless you had a ss vita
meta wise I made the right choice to pull HLE, but I actualy wish I used her less
swallowtail works against aponia trust, hoyo recommended it
HoRb has good Reso DMG buff 
those are recommended teams but T100 players often have more competitive choices
No? I said HoT was 5.8

beta will tell us
Isnt it good that u used her more since that means u got ur xtals worth
plus gibe beta already
I see
boss case scenarios as well
My freaking ass went too fast again
mb
Would say I wonder if HoRb would be BiS for SW but then again I just said HoRb has good Reso DMG buff 
Wait wtf did my Nitro just ended, I thought it was ending in a couple of hours
Anyways...

Its Elysia 
i could see a bronseele skill too ngl
I was planning to skip HLE cuz she's Elysia, but I got too lucky so I had surplus xtals, so I pulled
or its that locked skill for xdc
Would it be AR skill?
They'd have to rework her passives or add onto her leader
Idk fully tbh
afaik we still dunno who is supposed to be the locked skill on XDC
no i think that's like paws skill
imo its either Bronya or Hua
Its probs bronya for trio
Yeah
I think the "protection" thing is more in line with Hua but could be whatever hoyo wants to do

It's an onion at least
Maybe they’re releasing dkey Sakura and it’s a passive for her 
note the COmpanion skills on XDC do not say "when HLE or Badum" is on the team
but "when Elysia or Kiana is on the team"
Yeah Hofi and HoHE work fine
HoFi is somewhat copium.
And Knight moonbeam would work if They didn’t screw her
Doesn’t it work for Mei Hofi WS support?
No
they are low-key good for beginner? if you had XDC but nothing else from a lucky pull, htey could just slap WC on XDC team
Oh sad
and get a strong benefit for nothing
One of them has to be the leader
Tragic
It only works if Mei is leader or if Kiana is Leader
i have to check if kiana one is her leader only
Ely got bad hand to where it's only Mei leader 
and ofc no one is insane enough to try hofi xdc

I'm pretty sure I heard abou at least one person trying it
Bet
well, XDC with HoFi support
Try WC XDC

I should run XDC with hofi support in SS MA some time
nah i mean hofi lead xdc supp
was about to say that
not even mimi would do this
HoFI DK does buff XDC but uuuh
Hmm. It does trigger Hofi leader skill too
no synergy other than that
If u think about it
Of course mango would do it 
All Valks trigger RoO leader skill
just basic roo stuff + kiana bonus yeah
but usecase is very rare
Yeah but hofi also wants RoO so still DMG loss compared to smth like hofi vita fdd

Oh right HoFi has a Mei skill 
if someone is missing a third slot for sym they'll either likely have bita or use vbm
or fdd
most likely fdd or vbm
FDD is symb
Not me remembering people tossing Sparkle into FDD dps for some reason
Ignite
I tried Mei cora2 vita and most I got was 793 iirc or something on Mei shill 

"She has ignite"
Yeah but not when she's dps
Sparkle should get a Novaflare that lets her support Symbio--ohwaitwronggame


i think i saw lamp fdd or fdd lamp too
because "fire"
Smh
I am aware of where I'm posting
People play anything they like these days 
slightly impressed that there's still few peeps i see in rl that set teams based on elements

I mean you can but-
very few tho
trust the process
I only check like the top 5 ppl but I haven't seen that on any properly-built P2 team

i think your vbm grew wings 
yeah those rare cases always get -100
i thought they were memeing at first
the last time I used a "proper element team" was like
MA Rimestar
cuz I have FoV and I like using FoV
Yeah, Riley doesn’t know anything about using FDD in the wrong ring
(pls Hoyo give FoV a DK)
ngl i was expecting fov dk than mother flipping sw
me too
Chenxue initial ari 
That’s the wrong coralie

I was sure rumors of SW DK was cope cuz trio bias. She's been farmable for a while now after all
but the ignite

I’m so excited to get sparkle this patch 
Think this was rice cake 
what in the double dudu
dudu elf in 2026
anyways if we don't wanna talk cn maybe we should go to honkek chat bf a mod mob us out of here 
vita as a dudu support in like ever smh
got a friend who's like "I should just get SW frags from spending shop right? is JD/Lantern even used"
even tho SW is farmable
well you could consider it to get a head start on the farming since her dkey is coming
^
i actually don't think that something like that is the worst idea of they're competetive
Seems entirely legit
he does have SW already, and I see the merit, just
not sure if going all in on that when it probably isnt enough to hit SSS vs SW stans
who already maxed
i do think we should prep for sw but for spending i would wait for beta bc u can grab them anytime in the spending duration
you don't necesseraly need SSS, if you have like SS1 or 2 you're prob ahead in comparison to most players
but yeah we dont know what SW does yet
but at the same time you don't really use lamp/jds so i dont think either hurts

I keep thinking any veteran is gonna have SS+ of old valk by this point
before they get dupes or frags from spending
well by the point SW was in WT she was kinda useless so unless you're a simp there really wasnt any reason to buy her, though at the same time i think this advice only really applies to nirv since in RL most players will prob be in the same situation and have a low ranked SW or are skill issued
I dunno, if I was in HI3 team I would gatekeep HoH
to force ppl to waste xtal/resource for ranks
why tho her ranks barely matter
eh idk
ATK
Ew
sweaty minmaxers and Elysia stans 😔
we dont get any hohe dps weathers anymore tbh and for tank her ranks are kinda whatever
u only use hoh for dps anyways
they can milk her dk still if anything
the only stellar valk that got a normal rerun for dk was hofi like once
Next benares : my time has come 
An Adv though
yeah still rerun tho
Fair enough
Now her dps situations are mostly in the grave 
I was able to afford it 
Whel
I really don t feel like pulling SW dkey. Her gameplay wasn t even that fun to begin with normally. I d just get it for attack
I mean ellie s pretty strong
Maybe hoh/HLE can brute force a retain in RL
Though SW is free and bracket is likely full of her so 
Yeah so like take -100 on sw shill probably 
Senawho didnt even get a asc, she’s a WoD merchant at this point 
I hope we get aggressive sw shill again so the new generation can live my trauma
And we can all suffer together
I’m actually a bit happy, cause I like Bronya
I would have preferred a P2 unit, but hey!, Bronya is at least someone I like
Youyon powercreeps Serapeum?
I don't think SSS is worth it tbh
SS2 is enough
Unless the DKey gives some bonus to her SSS I dont know of
What's so special about ss2?
Increased TDM of her projectiles that go thru her screen
I don't recall any of the numbers being much
Tbh even SS2 could be considered too much
Sw ranks are actually some of the saddest I've seen
Cause it's 28 > 30
Lol yeah
S2 is independent multi
Ss0 is sp sustain which can help if you want to ult to skip her opening ca for barrier
But idk how new sw will be
I’m getting sw frags from spending event, just need to wait for carnival to reach goal for 100 frags 
So maybe ss0 is not important either with changes. Just like how lv stopped caring about ss1 for self sp lol
Still ranks are raw atk
Still better than songque
So i mean s2 vs sss is prob still a difference to take note of if you care enough or high enough
Light spenders can easily reach ss3 back then too
Yea her ranks are still gonna be sought after even if their not that big, since she's so old and the people that already have her probably have her before she was made directly free probably have her at at least SS
A lot of the people who had her that high also may have quit
True
My star less rime star bracket let me t5 with p1 luna lol
So idk it's a crap shoot to me for now
Rimestar
Gotta wait for deets too
I feel old holy
wait I thought this was going to be the usual event/story puzzle but it's actually bronseele themed 
My trio was usually top 1-3 on starless FoV shill
God I'm so screwed 
arent you in rl in cn?
Ye I started working on ranking mine up lol
It ok, gives me something to spend the mats on lol
if that’s the recommended team, then I hope HoRb’s DKey will get a rerun too
I’ll be able to afford herself with BP balls next patch, but will need her weapon
I was gonna say we can have a full stellar key astral ring team now but then i realized
Lv hrb hohe
no jumps 
I think S3? The one that buffs ranged and team damage is the only notable one
Ig her ranks r just for the attack boost
From now you can get like 60-70 fragments before the patch starts and if you pick her from your valk box you will get 50 more fragments
So you will SS before the patch
The only one?
I think there's other ones but thats the only one that I rembered
What I'm saying is go check lol
I think SS gives her more sp and sss gives global time frscture
Imma check after I finish this lecture video
Ye that sounds more important
That's her leader lol
Okay only her S3, SS and SS unlocks new skills
S3= team deals 27% more ranged ice damage. Teams total damage increases 23%
SS= before n-ex threshold is fully charged, silverwing restores 1 sp per second out of battle
SSS= when scatter barrier ends or she exits to destroy the scatter barrier, a global timefracture is triggered for 2.5 seconds
Im not that knowledgeable on her skill level caps tho
Oh rip 💔 I thought it would of been good when she was gonna a support
Are we sure s3 isn't just a leader skill upgrade
It is leader skill unfortunately
SW biggest rankups seems to be S2 and SS1
She level cap upgrades are kinda good tho
S1 and SS2 are also useful
whose ranks are these
Idk how useful SS is
SW
S1 is a big boost in the %
oh can we make sw HoH support lowk
Gives her 1 sp persecond out of battle we won't know how good it is now cuz we won't know how good her sp regen will be w the dk
SW is WS
We dunno what attributes she has yet tho
oh 
I have a feeling she might be Symbiosis tho cause trio shenanigans
hle then
That and heavenly shift maybe
That Im not so sure of
Is the public v1 beta tommr?
pretty sure v1 isn't public
What ever number is thats the public one
Confused the private beta as v0 💀
Okay v2 tommr
Probably, they most likely will want a incentive for mei and kiana and bronya to run each other for their teams 
Omg a new trio
though I don't really feel the same hype for this trio
Kiana and mei are matching but bronya is like they forgot to either tell her the theme to match or kiana forgot to tell bronya because sw stands out next to badum and mei
ig give her heart of the night skin 
but at first let see what her tags are
and if the xdc ??? skill is related to her
yeah so while it may sound like a new skill, it's just going off of an existing skill. A new skill shouldn't mean anything on its own. You need to evaluate based on its actual substance and contents
Base = 24% ranged ice and 20% tdm
S3 = 3% more on each
SS3 = another 3% on each
For newer valks leader skill upgrades on these ranks are very typical
Mine is SS atm
https://i.imgur.com/APjlJ93.png
For some sense of scope, HoFi can get a 10% team total damage bonus if her weapon skill actually hits something, but this gets neglected most of the time. Keep in mind total damage is especially common and gets diluted in the formula too.
I'm not saying this skill cannot make a difference, but it's just not a major thing to expect from.
:o
My SW is S1
So she should be at least s3 by the time 8.8 hits lol
Although I can choose her from the valk box (not like I have motivation to choose anyone else from that besides HoTruth lel)

Yea her increases from the skills doo seam pretty great
Plus the attack boost that comes with ranks is nice anyway
i hope you mean don't, because that's what i'm saying lol
but yeah at worst it's still atk
and every little thing can add up
or maybe 1 little point can be enough of a difference
Some of them seam great but some of them are just sad tho
Well most of them
https://i.imgur.com/2bEEy6j.png i'm not seeing what's so major about this
I think S1 is the most major rank up
i will say though, back in p1 we were on 15s rotations loosely speaking (SW was kinda flexible about it)
but p2 rotations are more about 25s so maybe we can mileage from that 5% increase more at ss1
The combo bonus looks pretty big tbh
Type counter is also nice but it's ignorable cause it's small
Yea since she is wt you should just aim for SS+ since every boost helps
if it was some single digit amount of breach/independent multi then maybe you can make an argument but this is just ice damage buff. That's still pretty common. I don't think it's anything separate
ok i need to introduce another point of reference. LV s2 is big
this is lv s2
new skill. 30% lightning damage buff
that's kind of what i'm looking for if i want something to be notable
The difference in ranks of a old p1 char and a mpre recent one 
sw is not thaaaat old jfc lmao
so the reason why s2 is so big is because (independent effect) is mentioned here https://i.imgur.com/Vfq7qbb.png
Perks of being a old valk is the outfits you will already have 
Ceo outfit gives 1000 damage increase
which afaik is an independent multiplier and doesn't get addedly diluted the way other effects we're talking about have been
5.4 is pretty old to me 

yeah well try older
Considering that we're in 8.7 rn
I canr wait to see her animations tommr
Wonder how much effort they put into it since no valk
regardless of how old she may be, apparently she's coming back so this is what we're dealing with
anyway hope that clears up reading her ranks
Luna dk was kinda a let down 💔 in terms of animations
was it? I'm fine with it for the most part
Its okay its just okay for me
it's 13 patches...
I dont like how the fire work moves in her ult
try older
And her head tilts it seems so awkward to me
i think the fireworks is really funny when thinking about kongming's story

I think your math is off
Evil
it would 10 if it we were in 8.4?
like sure. ok
For me I just wish there was more fireworks and had a bigger impact
i think the lone firework from their contraption kinda makes it more romantic? idk
5.4 to 6.3 is alr 10 patches
Ig then
and her cny outfit old ult might have fireworks already? idr tbh because i never use it
33
it does but very subtle
Her old ult was peak so ig it is hard to recreate peak atleast you can still use it in loa
anyway you guys need to review the original context. All I responded to was SW being called an old p1 valk when there are plenty of those older than her.
In absolute terms, yes she's old
but so is anything p1
Topic dwelled far down

everyone is just so eager to try to make points at me for some reason lol
doesn't matter the topic~
Because you are the mythical wize sairaan
SW's sss skill is really funny since alot of p2 valks nowadays get their time fracture skill at S2
i'm just another person here lol. wise my butt
BRONYA GETTING A KEY AND NO ONE PINGED ME?
there's been plenty of times i've been wrong~
im still doubting ranks won't matter in glb rl
maybe high rl it matters
Honestly I got 2nd place in global rl with a S1 luna vow
we can prob loosely extrapolate from the recent tribunal cycle tbh
how were the ranks there for RL?
LV isn't as old
Allot of people had S2, SS and chen alot of chens.....
They just didn't mald as hard
yeah RL tends to have astral ops that aren't doing much for them funny enough
unless it's SD mobs
and they need to hle dps there
Yes im not talking abt her being old
lv is also quite popular
People love pulling aops but haveing weaponless chars 
idk if anything the recency and the popularity should've led to greater expectations to me
I expected some SSS
mfw seeing a weaponless mei score less than PS bruteforce (RL)
mobs.
Alot of people in global just do their abyss 1 or 2 times and stick with that score probaly
XDC has low atk
the mobs even in RL were very tanky
they really wanted you to XDC insta kill them which is obvious
tbf that's gonna be every XDC cycle
so XDC at any lacking capacity still has that lead over other teams that don't have her
Same thing with her MA rice cake
so seeing any RL XDC score below non XDC scores is just really silly
i've been hearing alot of horrors of MA rice cake tbh
I coule def see the Bronya passive coming
I logged into my old second account to do some fun pulls and tried that boss..... I just existed the game
I haven't tried it yet but I hope it's not hell
yeah me neither. I was watching a friend do it and the only thing i remember was the osu
It kinda is unfortunately 
Oh well
You can clear it it just gonna take a bit long like brute forcing the ma pig for rita
oh before it completely slips from my mind, if you want another point of reference https://i.imgur.com/Vx6tc0p.png
this is HoS
who is even older than SW
this was considered kinda major to kinda consider at the time
Wow sw ranks r just sad then
and HoS was during a time when dupes and rank ups weren't the same kind of standard as they are now
Oh yea the rates sucked
Best thing from p2 was them increasing the amount of frags you get for dupes
the point is for more common multipliers, at least give me something like 15% before i start thinking it's remotely chunky
i say "kinda" here because ultimately it still wasn't really important for most intents and purposes lol
And so the one that helped her sp regen but I think that is SSS tho?
SSS is starting sp. notable for MA where you don't get any
Ahhh
anyway i think we can close that topic up now. I need to go anyway
not saying to ignore SW ranks but don't put too much weight that it messes up your account either
oh just to clarify something, the type counter effect mentioned here is just extra TDM if you have that type matchup. It isn't part of the type counter multiplier itself. It's just basic total damage i'm pretty sure. And you're only getting 2% more for that specific bit (edit: oh wait you already acknowledged that last part lol)
Oh yea i didnt think it would increase the type counter multiplier in general
That would be kinda silly if that's what it did
yeah that would've been huge if so lol
is it ok if i get a summary of the rank talk bc i cant backread rn 
might change if dk suggests otherwise but good to know
Sci ranks are also sad aswell in some ways

also fun fact, afaik this is the only independent effect that is written as a dmg% buff rather than a dmg taken debuff
(functionally it's the same since they're separate multipliers anyways)
I'm wondering who will get a DK next anniversary.
I have a idea if they want to tie it into the story but most dks are kinda random nowadays
Please correct me if Im wrong but I really don't feel like most of the DKeys tie into the story at all really
but most dks are kinda random nowadays
They used to like with 7T and SoE
I saw that part I was responding to the story part
This part was about the story. 
I know
Then I'm confused because it feels to me like you're asking something that is already in the comment 
I know u the lore expert though and I didnt bother read P2 so I wanted you to correct me in case I was wrong
The last time a DK tied to the story was brick.
If they wanted to tie the next one to the story they could have Goddess Senadina release in 9.0, have her disappear on that patch's chapter and then leave our Sena a gift for her return.
But since most are random it can honestly be anyone from part 1.5 and now with Silverwing even before that.
Inb4 Flamescion DK to powercreep Lantern. 
YES YES YES
I love HFS I want more excuses to use her
it's one of those things:
- There's not enough time to give Sena a character arc
- Even so, Senadina (the goddess) is basically destined to disappear at the end of this arc and for Sena to return
- Sena does not work with the current main cast, a DK would let her support either RoO or Symbiosis so that she could be run with Dragonlord Coralie / Planar Helia
Badum is LoA
I would guess the same tags as HoRb but with HS
Still mad that HoRb doesn't have HS to this day 
sw dkey
Brick was tied to story? I thought it just randomly showed up for 0 reason lol
Cuz HoS was "cuz i wanted to"
Whats companion star?
brick had a short story which had the reveal of Su's return
"when xx in team, gain xx% independent bonus"
We know that?
Oh lol okay then
no im assuming
cuz seele support kinda shit
i dont see why shed want sw hle over vita hle
seele s a good ws support wdym?
O
Uhm
Well then
This I can agree with
was probably thinking of her goi support
her syncs are really good fur WS yeah
When does ely skin drop?
Tomorrow
Or well Friday whenever that is for you
Since you're SEA
Should already be Friday in SEA
Alright
is she better than vita
She's used with vita, iirc there also were scenarios where you ran spark fws Horb on lobster

What if we got a full racing suit as an outfit one day
peak or shit? The chequered flag on the skirt from the snapshot made me think

Probably depends on what boss ur fighting
What kind of racing suit
I can see it going for that theme
full body like f1 lmfao
Max Verstappen outfit
Shame she isn't Dutch

close enough
just call the outfit maxim verstappov and:
- Correct country ✅
- No lawsuit ✅
- No FIA giving you 5s penalty for being Dutch ✅
yk AL race queen skins?
just googled that and I need eye bleach
Maxim Josovich Verstappov
never seen anything so impractical in my life
Gotta do the russki order too tho
Verstappov Maxim Josovich
Gib the Rita Durandal Racing Promotion Outfit

Can't happen. Anime girl racer can't breath without showing 90% skin
Durandal Rita race queen
who said they're driving
girl
HoR drives in heels
the cosplays look good tho flaming aside
Every HI3 character is a toe walker
Gotta have them heels
child Griseo
The exception that proves the rule
sirin isnt
HoRb
I'm now about to go looking at all the hi3 characters shoes to see how bad they are
Either heels or floating in most cases iirc
I think this is worse wtf
Coralie has sneakers with massive heel part
That's just horse hooves 😭
in her fdd outfit she's standing on her toes on the floor with no heels
I'd screenshot but I don't even want coralie feet in my clipboard ty
is it cuz it's coralie or it's feet
both
I acc can't unsee this every fucking shoe has a fat heel or the valk is wearing literal heels
cn gameplay 
cn shoe discussion
ig they think that people are either into heels or don't care
Or bare feet obviously
most normal shoes award is prob carole tbh
why did I even click on raven her shoes are RIDICULOUS

Gotta show them now
wtf bro
LMFAO
dem claws

Then don't remove HoT Mei's oni geta

@warped socket @tawny scaffold
oh my god why am i still seeing it when i tab elsewhere. i thought it was only here!!! #🎮honkai-chat message

The only thing I hate about Kiana being Fire SD is that should've been reserved for goddess Senadina.
Now, looking at the graph she either has to powercreep Songque or Sena if she is to be Stardust. (Literal the character related to Stars so like) 
She can replace herself 
Most likely case but I'd rather main cast Sena got a DK to work with Helia/Cora.
Really... The Goddess of the Fire Planet should be Fire 
I like fire, but maybe Sena could have ice, so p2 trio can cover the elements?
and she's been in "cold storage" for a while, so it might fit
~~unless ely is the real p2 herrscher leader
~~

come to think of it, Ely's had more p2 content than Sena
HLE + HoH dkey vs just the one Carmen Senadiego
In my mind that's reserved for P2 Kiana
Another one?
There's the main story blue/white outfit that has yet to be released.
Wouldn't be suprised if it released on the 10th anniversary
Could be a FWS outfit
Like event or b chips
Doubt it.
It more alike the design of post-timeskip battlesuits.
While FWS is a mid-timeskip seasonal battlesuit.
Would be kinda like making APHO Mei a Xentinel outfit
guys, no new units next patch, right? can i actually believe next patch is "rest patch"?
there's a new astralOp and a new stellar key.
We still don't know what youyun and SW dkey will actually do so see for yourself if you can skip them once beta is out
i mean new valkyrie.
Youyun has a extremelly powerful mechanic locked behind SS
any patch is a rest patch if you're not into what's on offer
...but yeah, patch after cny is usually pretty calm
welp, i did think about it too. maybe the strat next patch is:
- get SW +1
- SS youyun
which is basically equivalent to S0+1
SW +1
silverwig's getting a weapon?
hmmm, all p1 upgrades are Dkeys, right?
It's a bit more than S0+1 also because there's no statistical soft pity on both of those banners but yeah if you can get use out of youyun
In what sense, so that P1 valks can work with p2 teams yes, Upgrades to p1 teams nah
true. so just "get lucky on 1st youyun copy" or something. daym xentinel sucked me dry, going all the way to 90 pulls. hopefully it rebounded and give me some luck next patch.
...phrasing?
i mean p2 sig weapons aren't DKeys, right? so yea.
me remembering the time where divine keys are actually rare. . .
Well it's a way to suck money out of competitive players and ppl who have nostalgia for p1 battlesuit
And it seems like it is working
i mean it is. now give me p2 upgrade to FoV please. and HoS. im missing senti chan, really.

is it considered leak if i create a topic like: If HoS is given a p2 upgrade, what AR will she be?
or breaking any rules if i started a topic like it?
the mods are pretty spooky about. Better not to try it.
Brick came off more as a WoD/RoO dps gameplay so probably WoD
Or RoO, of the two I would prefer WoD tbh since it’s options are wider than RoO which is quite limited tbh
Make her ws, her mark would be an illusion

I would not complain about WS

She gonna bring Sena back to life



Please no, I don’t like senawho gameplay 
true. . . RoO imo is just not built for DPS in mind, really.
but i would like more RoO units
RoO is clearly designed as support first and foremost
Both Vita and FDD were primarily sold as breach supps
I think hofin and vita as dps good to play, it’s just cora2 where it’s obvious dps wasn’t meant for her really like it was tacked on rather than something that feels nice to play
No more roo units until 2 new rings get introduced, unless they just drop bita replacement for ws/wod 
Use both
imo RoO DPS feels lackluster its because HoFi doesn't generate AR
Maybe it's because I don't have SS Chenxue, but Vita dps has slow-ass AR recharge past the first one
She does it’s just you need to na na dodge na na dodge na wa hold atk for said ARI
Bita bery slow in ws, and i would rather run sena if its double breach on wod
I have SS CX and SS teriteri so last time experience vita without fast second SO would be 7.9
ngl this is too slow for my liking. at least it doesn't feel natural to me.
Yes please I love her!
If they giving Stellar Keys to every character like a present, please make one for her too
amg 2027 LNY patch
Fr fr
If we really think about it they can do whatever they want with a RoO valks team building, I wouldn't say it's the most limited
Since it's strictly a bit different from valk to valk and normally evolves around extra passives

I mean limited as in they don’t make RoO valks as often as the other rings
hot take: xentinel should've been hua, not mei
Pulling for SS Astraops is so bleh
So expensive if you don't get lucky, overkill for RL
The only reason I have Chenxue at all is that I got lucky on my FDD pulls and needed to spend more xtals to get that stupid xy sword
But how would that impact what you want HoS ring to be, since this is a purely hypothetical scenario I thought you meant it with a gameplay aspect in mind
Xy sword worth, since that thing is rare 
(No regrets at all for spending extra to get that sword lol the fomo is so bad on it)
and then they give you aops like Teri who directly affects the rotation
I still dont have the XY sword
Same
Teri is like the only aop I feel good for pulling
Since the marginal value of S rank is actually decent
wait, imagine we can exchange the brick to be a p2 brick. too cope?
Yea Teri is actually pretty big for LoA
Less likely for a player to have RoO valks to support hos I guess
double special qte is crazy
Cora1 exists but like I never use her tbh for my vita 
valentines leeks omg
yea. teri has the biggest impact in terms of gameplay. the rest are just damage increase.
Well my point was all about that they can just do whatever they want with a RoO valks team building, since like 2/3 RoO s ranks use battlesuits in their team that aren't even RoO
Idk some rots needs chen for the sp to skip some support stuff

Oh right I completely forgot about that
Chenxue at S is a big help for initial AR, but
when does that actually make a real difference, lol
The second AR is the one that you actually need help for
Last time vita wolf ran it was better to do 1 SO in RL iirc
true. 2nd AR being locked on SS really hurts, at least for my spending level.
I think
Eh well also not really, CX gives SP + initial Ari + shining trace though given the shining trace isn't that useful and her SP only really gets useful with the SS extra SP. Same can be said for other AOPs tbh, initial Ari is always a nice thing
that genuinely makes no sense under the context of her release
design-wise, hua fits more is what i mean. hua is the chinese valk.
xentinel is specifically meant to pair up with the messenger (Kiana).
Hua could not be Xentinel. It be a completely different suit.
Do you intend to roll for Youyun?
If so, Songque will do basically nothing for you. If not, the marginal value is probably better than JDS stamps or ELF boxes or whatever.
Songop would probs be a godsend if u have and is running ME+sena teams
Assuming u dont get youyun
Honestly the best thing u can get from spend event might unironically be sw frags 💀
SS Songque was great for the 3 uses I got of her before Youyun announcement 
is lantern stamp good
I want to sleep but beta soon 
sleep and wake up to beta

so, if next year's cny is (probably) da bronya
google says 2027 is the Fire Goat
...this sounds hilarious 
Bio fire bronya 
go sleeb 
go sleeb. ai chan will take your place
Silverwing has surplus
Yeah that looks like Abyss flower a bit
For just WS I'm guessing?
Why is she nuking the Sea Of Data
Rip Symbiosis
she wasn't happy with part 2?
Well, atleast she seems to have a little more work than the average DK.
Only 2 new animations still tho. 
didn't horbius only have 1 
some get 2. some get 1.
she also added blue stuff to the edge of the stage?
Trio Nostalgia coming...
So she supports badum dps and can use Kiana and Mei to support herself if needed, does this mean badum new bis team for loa is badum Mei sw?
Idek
No breach though, maybe breach not needed
Doubt it though
Mei gives breach
If there isn't any
We have no idea this is V2 lmao
Oh 
V2 -> v3 can have some really big changes
I hope v3 let’s be able to support Mei dps
Not those kind of changes lmao
Oh
resonance mark outside of stellar outburst 
Of 3 people, 1 has no new suit 
Nani
I suppose she has surplus then 
surplus state.
2nd gif
Cny trio?
Tbh we still don't know XDC'S locked passive
Ah-
when surplus over half.
Use weapon and summon a mini-resonance mark and get 4 proccs.
So now we have surplus for WS and WoD
How about adult trio? 
Drya we barely know 
Well we already knew about WS cuz of youyun skills 
Yeah true
Silverwing has finisher on base-kit.
But others need SS Youyun. 
Soon we get New Bronya + Finality (White/Blue Model) + APHO Mei



Rip Teri still though lol
Huh
Have 0 proccs left on Bronya and press ult to finish.
Surely they gonna add something to not mess that up
Can she collapse enemies besides her Ult?
anything you wish AI chan
Hm, maybe they're gonna restrict it behind qme
HoRb:
Sounds reasonable enough tbh
I don't understand tho why SW not HoTR
HoTr locked to waxing
HoTr technically has Waxing Moon bc of HoFi
Sw is newest (lore) 
because Silverwing is the adult Bronya.
Honestly, both her and Carole should've gotten it because of Moon Ring.
Well SO exit is just kinda the standard these days, ig it's nice to give that to old valks but why lock it behind SS aop lmao
forgor
Idek
Intern-kun high again
will be cooler if its hotr deky and new bronie BS

Hle basically made her take back the bosses she lost~~ not like she has a lot anyway ~~
At least HoRb now has a WS Aop the can support her
She's mostly WoD 
I'm kinda surprised still that Sera is getting replaced also
Stigmata set: "The Almagest"
Figure: Ptolemy.
Another Greek/Roman figure?
That's a good pick



Is she studying astronomy?
no drooling 



Love the hair strand that goes all around the head. Orbit. 
what's TL name of the dkey btw?
Azure Thunder EX19?
you, back in the room


Why is carv alive in chat. Go sleep before beta

Egyptian, if we want to be technical (but you know, Greek dynasty that ruled egypt)
Ah
Lot of older historical figures at least
蓝焰银隼0019:
- Official - Falcon Flare 0019
- Literal - Blue Flame Silver Falcon 0019
苍雷星梭EX19…… By the same logic you drop 苍 and 星 and then you switch the order.
Falcon Flare 0019 is the official translation?
It's SW old Weapon
So thunder shuttle 
Ah-
you forgot to switch order
shuttle thunder...
dropping 星 is fine -ish but 苍 sets the mood
especially when the set is astronomy related
where gunblade Kira
DKey Kira 
Please
Yet her singing wont improve

I give my Kira the microphone weapon, should get a DK some time



She never had the blade outside of Apho? 
and you know I know one man who is fit for doing Kira's singing
Unironically I have a feeling that this is why SW DKey will have more value than most so far
Not really
Not at all
that's... really complicated
iirc, Ptolemy was one of the three heirs to Julius Caesar (the Triumvirate, alongside Augustus and Some Other Guy), who was given the Egyptian "chunk" of the Roman Empire
Am I insane for liking her old ult a little more than the SO finisher?
Still a lot of historical figures
Like the SO finisher is amazing Im not complaining
oh, totes'
just, whether you consider Ptolemy to be Egyptian or Greco-Roman is 50/50
But idk I guess it feels like it’s overdoing it?
Both I guess lol
Its sick amazing honestly
Silverwing will be our third Bio part 2
Macedonian-Egyptian
Or at least the first Ptolemy was
All of his descendants are simply Egyptian




