#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

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oh lol

desert lily
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50

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alright

desert lily
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It's a full Valk so yeah 50

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wait lemme calc for myself

gleaming imp
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So 100 = SS assuming you had s0

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I'm referring to spending event

desert lily
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Yeah

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i have SS1 SW

desert lily
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I don't have her TeriDerp

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lmao

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close to getting her in wt?

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box + spending should be SS1 yes

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if parting from S0

desert lily
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i don't remember exactly but i think i unlocked her last year with the cny box

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then S2 with whenever they gave out frags

desert lily
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i got her from login at some point

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might at least get from wt and use box for sw
but i would say for box wait for beta

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I'm actually that SW dkey opens up the door for older valks to receive a dkey, though I will be feeling mixed if the p2 tall dudu is just a skin for PE on the same patch she receives a p2 dkey DurandalPeek

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desert lily
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you know what dks do to stats

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would be SS2 if reserve stamps but thats wasting balls atp

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actually wait

desert lily
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Then I get a free +10 since DKey

nova osprey
gleaming imp
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Each dkey = another -10 atk gap, thankfully I never experienced this gap in RL so far

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for me its like
s0 (default) →
s2 or something from WT before 8.8 →
ss if i use 2025 selector →
ss1 if i use 2026 selector →
ss2 if i get frag from spending HimekoLMAO

sounds horrible

dense harness
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dang, SW dkey is real SakuraWTF

rancid plank
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i still don't wanna use selector unless in panic

desert lily
rancid plank
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Make dkeys the new sp valk

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rancid plank
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And F2Ps can only afford to pull dkey syncs no s ranks

desert lily
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2 away from either FHD or AF

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desert lily
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i promise u all the hoh lovers i met in rl don't have any more atk than my s2 ass atk hoh

umbral spoke
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but some potential effects are already scary enough

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like what horb's has

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next patch too expensive

copper shale
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considering we would get a mini spending patch after

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next patch horrible for newbies and -10 for non syn pullers

desert lily
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Haven't gotten a sweaty bracket in a bit
But I'll probably will now since I'm in Nirv again

nova osprey
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skip = flop

obsidian berry
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skip = demoot to sinful

desert lily
copper shale
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i wished dkey syns never existed tho

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nova osprey
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I have skipped every mini and missing xys since apparently hoyo wants to gatekedp xys from appearing anywhere else

desert lily
nova osprey
desert lily
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And not +20

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gleaming imp
nova osprey
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No funds

gleaming imp
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Oh that makes sense

desert lily
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Noodles was broke

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desert lily
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HoRb is telling me to sleep LanternHeavyThoughts

desert lily
gleaming imp
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The way sw frags are the best choice from spending event SongqueStare_stolen

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The concept

desert lily
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I'm more geared towards SN since I'm at 33/50 before I SSS her

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desert lily
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Yes

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WC dk when

gleaming imp
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I just realized I'll be poor after 8.7, so can't afford both aop and dkey so skip aop for dkey unless I get really lucky

desert lily
ember locust
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You said DK was 5.8 for HoR

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carnival pulls so i can buy the 100 frags

gleaming imp
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I have not skipped a single dkey since I started playing

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nice

gleaming imp
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I like dkeys in p2 since they're cheap and affordable

desert lily
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I skipped Flawless Benediction
Waxing Moon, would have been a bad idea since it mainly appeared in reruns since I started in Spork patch

gleaming imp
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And they usually give Valk for said dkey for free in someway to let us f2ps use the dkey

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p1 dk same supply as p1 gear?

desert lily
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def with that extra given pulls

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but still more for the usuals that pull ss+

gleaming imp
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Maybe it's a 8.8 exclusive thing since no new Valk

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less than valk tho

desert lily
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I'm at 53 pity for Aop cause of Chen

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There's not a Valk for me to pull on 8.8 though

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i still say wait for beta
should be soon

desert lily
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Yeah

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even for me spending decision will be delayed for beta

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i won't really have use for s sq aop rn anyways

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and i don't think i need 4* kia elf rn either

gleaming imp
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I have 4s kiaelf for the teams I would use s songque aop in

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For example my upcoming sparkle

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im thinking s sq for the ari mainly

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also for ice valks but i rarely use em outside hle shill

desert lily
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Carnival is gonna be a tough decision on what to pull LanternHeavyThoughts

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i still dc for rl though

gleaming imp
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I'm only missing a aop for ws/wod FuHuaRip_nopies

desert lily
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Don't have anything for WS/WoD/LoA

shrewd socket
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didnt u get Thel wep?

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desert lily
desert lily
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if you miss first round u have second round

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and there no fdd shill coming so soon

desert lily
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Or throw the full 20 at FDD and see if I get the same outcome as 8.4 LanternHeavyThoughts

desert lily
gleaming imp
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I’m personally going for vita in hopes of getting dupe for the SS3, I haven’t gotten anything from carnival before so I don’t have high hopes

desert lily
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I don't have hopes

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i mean its not like ill get anything but mei proved me wrong

desert lily
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I know I'm not gonna get lucky

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so s2 fdd or s2 lp sounds tempting

nova osprey
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S2 lp gets u easy 0sec agLanternHeavyThoughts

desert lily
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You already have S2 PAWS LanternHeavyThoughts

main goblet
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but at least i have the valks this is slightly tempting than to who don't have em

desert lily
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Only one I don't have is Vita

desert lily
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Guessing the first two carnival banners are going to be FWS and Vita

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ngl im a fraud s2 haver i haven't made use of its tf or extra weap properly unless there's no specific use KianaDumb

desert lily
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fdd paws first

desert lily
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Oh it's the couple first LanternHeavyThoughts

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nova osprey
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Couple and then 2 gods

desert lily
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yeah tbh idk if ill make use of the tf

desert lily
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It's more useful in MA

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for ma will be useful for if i wanna put bita there but i don't anymore tbh

wild citrus
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doubt I get anything from the Carinval but, assuming you get a dupe with the free 20, what'd be better here?
SS Vita, SS BFD, S2 Badum or S2 PAWS

desert lily
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Vita or FDD

wild citrus
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prob BFD?

wild citrus
desert lily
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Badum's S2 is mainly for MA purposes

copper shale
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cora ss dont mean much

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u alr s2 sounds like it

main goblet
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badum is more ma stuff but not too notable
paws for extra wa
idk ss vita
i think fdd ranks beyond s2 is dps

desert lily
gleaming imp
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I’m just glad vita post asc is still seeing use especially in WS KianaSparkle

wild citrus
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i mean u don't even have bita

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sounds tempting

wild citrus
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I got S2 Vita by accident. S2 BFD was intentional tho

desert lily
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Yeah true

gleaming imp
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And sw dkey being WS = more vita use

desert lily
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I got S2 FDD by accident

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for horb and sw unless sw don't want bita

copper shale
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for mse but u do have a full team alr

gleaming imp
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Surely my vita being SS2 Will compensate for my sw being SS1 on shill BronyaCopium

wild citrus
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afaik Vita still run on every WS team

desert lily
copper shale
gleaming imp
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tbf mse don't really use bita not bc of breach but bc dsa too good plus mse is kinda selfish on field time

gleaming imp
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Oh right I forgot she had WS

copper shale
desert lily
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It's just what hoyo showed

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the recommended pic in the pins

rancid plank
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Hoyo didn’t have vita for silverwing

desert lily
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It's SW HoRb HLE

rancid plank
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Only for horb

copper shale
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then it can just be ignored

nova osprey
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Isnt the pic more like examples and not reccomendations

gleaming imp
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Oh

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recommendations r trash 90% of the time

desert lily
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Hoyo has bad recommendations anyways

main goblet
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tbh hoyo recommendations are ass anyways

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yeah

wild citrus
copper shale
wild citrus
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meta wise I made the right choice to pull HLE, but I actualy wish I used her less

atomic coral
desert lily
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HoRb has good Reso DMG buff Dorysia

naive briar
abstract night
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beta will tell us

nova osprey
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plus gibe beta already

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boss case scenarios as well

ember locust
desert lily
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Would say I wonder if HoRb would be BiS for SW but then again I just said HoRb has good Reso DMG buff LanternHeavyThoughts

ember locust
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Wait wtf did my Nitro just ended, I thought it was ending in a couple of hours

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Anyways...

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wild citrus
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I was planning to skip HLE cuz she's Elysia, but I got too lucky so I had surplus xtals, so I pulled

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or its that locked skill for xdc

desert lily
wild citrus
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wild citrus
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imo its either Bronya or Hua

nova osprey
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Its probs bronya for trio

desert lily
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Yeah

wild citrus
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I think the "protection" thing is more in line with Hua but could be whatever hoyo wants to do

nova osprey
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i assumed onya, but not dk onya

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can be dk onya tho

desert lily
rancid plank
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Maybe they’re releasing dkey Sakura and it’s a passive for her BronyaCopium

wild citrus
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but "when Elysia or Kiana is on the team"

rancid plank
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Yeah Hofi and HoHE work fine

desert lily
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HoFi is somewhat copium.TeriDerp

rancid plank
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And Knight moonbeam would work if They didn’t screw her

rancid plank
wild citrus
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they are low-key good for beginner? if you had XDC but nothing else from a lucky pull, htey could just slap WC on XDC team

rancid plank
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Oh sad

wild citrus
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and get a strong benefit for nothing

smoky lintel
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Tragic

desert lily
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It only works if Mei is leader or if Kiana is Leader

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i have to check if kiana one is her leader only

desert lily
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Ely got bad hand to where it's only Mei leader LanternHeavyThoughts

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and ofc no one is insane enough to try hofi xdc

desert lily
wild citrus
wild citrus
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well, XDC with HoFi support

desert lily
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Try WC XDC

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rancid plank
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I should run XDC with hofi support in SS MA some time

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wild citrus
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was about to say that

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not even mimi would do this

wild citrus
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HoFI DK does buff XDC but uuuh

rancid plank
wild citrus
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no synergy other than that

rancid plank
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If u think about it

desert lily
desert lily
rancid plank
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No her other one

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The one for Mei

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smoky lintel
desert lily
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Oh right HoFi has a Mei skill LanternHeavyThoughts

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if someone is missing a third slot for sym they'll either likely have bita or use vbm

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or fdd

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most likely fdd or vbm

rancid plank
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FDD is symb

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wait what im saying haha

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yeah bita or vbm

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most likely vbm

desert lily
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Not me remembering people tossing Sparkle into FDD dps for some reason

gleaming imp
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I tried Mei cora2 vita and most I got was 793 iirc or something on Mei shill AponiaDerpNggt

nova osprey
desert lily
wild citrus
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wild citrus
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People play anything they like these days LanternHeavyThoughts

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slightly impressed that there's still few peeps i see in rl that set teams based on elements

desert lily
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I mean you can but-

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very few tho

atomic coral
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trust the process

wild citrus
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I only check like the top 5 ppl but I haven't seen that on any properly-built P2 team

desert lily
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i thought they were memeing at first

wild citrus
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the last time I used a "proper element team" was like
MA Rimestar
cuz I have FoV and I like using FoV

rancid plank
wild citrus
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(pls Hoyo give FoV a DK)

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ngl i was expecting fov dk than mother flipping sw

wild citrus
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me too

gleaming imp
wild citrus
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I was sure rumors of SW DK was cope cuz trio bias. She's been farmable for a while now after all

desert lily
gleaming imp
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I’m so excited to get sparkle this patch KianaSparkle

desert lily
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Think this was rice cake Dorysia

main goblet
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what in the double dudu

atomic coral
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dudu elf in 2026

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anyways if we don't wanna talk cn maybe we should go to honkek chat bf a mod mob us out of here LanternHeavyThoughts

smoky lintel
wild citrus
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got a friend who's like "I should just get SW frags from spending shop right? is JD/Lantern even used"

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even tho SW is farmable

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diabolical

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it hurst me as a p2 player

smoky lintel
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well you could consider it to get a head start on the farming since her dkey is coming

rancid plank
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^

smoky lintel
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i actually don't think that something like that is the worst idea of they're competetive

rancid plank
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Seems entirely legit

wild citrus
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he does have SW already, and I see the merit, just

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not sure if going all in on that when it probably isnt enough to hit SSS vs SW stans

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who already maxed

main goblet
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i do think we should prep for sw but for spending i would wait for beta bc u can grab them anytime in the spending duration

smoky lintel
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you don't necesseraly need SSS, if you have like SS1 or 2 you're prob ahead in comparison to most players

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but yeah we dont know what SW does yet

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but at the same time you don't really use lamp/jds so i dont think either hurts

wild citrus
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I keep thinking any veteran is gonna have SS+ of old valk by this point

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before they get dupes or frags from spending

smoky lintel
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well by the point SW was in WT she was kinda useless so unless you're a simp there really wasnt any reason to buy her, though at the same time i think this advice only really applies to nirv since in RL most players will prob be in the same situation and have a low ranked SW or are skill issued

wild citrus
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mfw HoH went into WT despite having a recent-ish DK

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prob cuz lowest-impact P2 DK

main goblet
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no

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its bc its her time

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shes too old

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and wont rerun

wild citrus
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I dunno, if I was in HI3 team I would gatekeep HoH

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to force ppl to waste xtal/resource for ranks

smoky lintel
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why tho her ranks barely matter

main goblet
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eh idk

wild citrus
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ATK

glass nacelle
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Ew

wild citrus
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sweaty minmaxers and Elysia stans 😔

smoky lintel
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we dont get any hohe dps weathers anymore tbh and for tank her ranks are kinda whatever

main goblet
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u only use hoh for dps anyways

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they can milk her dk still if anything

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the only stellar valk that got a normal rerun for dk was hofi like once

glass nacelle
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Next benares : my time has come Dorysia

main goblet
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yeah still rerun tho

desert lily
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Fair enough

main goblet
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so they did milk her well

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theres also scam box if u wanna count that ig

desert lily
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Now her dps situations are mostly in the grave LanternHeavyThoughts

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theyre did/doing it for lv and horb

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will see ice ben but still meh

gleaming imp
twin dune
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I really don t feel like pulling SW dkey. Her gameplay wasn t even that fun to begin with normally. I d just get it for attack

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I mean ellie s pretty strong

gleaming imp
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Maybe hoh/HLE can brute force a retain in RL

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Though SW is free and bracket is likely full of her so HoSHmm

nova osprey
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And have ss+

gleaming imp
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Yeah so like take -100 on sw shill probably FuHuaRip_nopies

somber egret
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Whole 8 weeks gonna be SW shill, -800

nova osprey
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Surely with youyun being ws aop we get sena shill

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Ending so early gonna be good LanternHeavyThoughts

gleaming imp
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Senawho didnt even get a asc, she’s a WoD merchant at this point FuHuaRip_nopies

fervent hinge
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I hope we get aggressive sw shill again so the new generation can live my trauma

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And we can all suffer together

magic gust
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I’m actually a bit happy, cause I like Bronya

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I would have preferred a P2 unit, but hey!, Bronya is at least someone I like

fervent hinge
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SWs gameplay is dogshit I hope it changes

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World star does not give me high hopes

old zinc
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Youyon powercreeps Serapeum?

gusty thistle
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so

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SW dlc

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time to rush her to SSS

old zinc
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SS2 is enough

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Unless the DKey gives some bonus to her SSS I dont know of

slate elm
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What's so special about ss2?

old zinc
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Increased TDM of her projectiles that go thru her screen

slate elm
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I don't recall any of the numbers being much

old zinc
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Tbh even SS2 could be considered too much

slate elm
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Sw ranks are actually some of the saddest I've seen

old zinc
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Cause it's 28 > 30

slate elm
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Lol yeah

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S2 is independent multi

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Ss0 is sp sustain which can help if you want to ult to skip her opening ca for barrier

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But idk how new sw will be

old zinc
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The big goods are S2 and SS1 imo, SS is also nice

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SS2 might be useful but idk

gleaming imp
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I’m getting sw frags from spending event, just need to wait for carnival to reach goal for 100 frags HoRSmile

slate elm
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So maybe ss0 is not important either with changes. Just like how lv stopped caring about ss1 for self sp lol

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Still ranks are raw atk

glass nacelle
slate elm
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So i mean s2 vs sss is prob still a difference to take note of if you care enough or high enough

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Light spenders can easily reach ss3 back then too

old zinc
slate elm
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A lot of the people who had her that high also may have quit

old zinc
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True

slate elm
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My star less rime star bracket let me t5 with p1 luna lol

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So idk it's a crap shoot to me for now

slate elm
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Gotta wait for deets too

old zinc
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I feel old holy

muted mauve
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wait I thought this was going to be the usual event/story puzzle but it's actually bronseele themed SakuraWTF

gleaming imp
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My trio was usually top 1-3 on starless FoV shill

muted mauve
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God I'm so screwed FuHuaDead

shrewd socket
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arent you in rl in cn?

rain isle
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Ye I started working on ranking mine up lol

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It ok, gives me something to spend the mats on lol

magic gust
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if that’s the recommended team, then I hope HoRb’s DKey will get a rerun too HigoThink I’ll be able to afford herself with BP balls next patch, but will need her weapon

slate elm
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I was gonna say we can have a full stellar key astral ring team now but then i realized

Lv hrb hohe

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no jumps LanternLollipop

main goblet
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jumping is for the weak

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need one more stellar valk for possible 2 separate teams LanternHeavyThoughts

limpid glacier
limpid glacier
limpid glacier
slate elm
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What I'm saying is go check lol

limpid glacier
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I think SS gives her more sp and sss gives global time frscture

slate elm
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Yeah sp sustain

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Please don't ignore s2 btw lol

limpid glacier
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Imma check after I finish this lecture video

slate elm
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Ye that sounds more important

limpid glacier
# slate elm Please don't ignore s2 btw lol

Okay only her S3, SS and SS unlocks new skills
S3= team deals 27% more ranged ice damage. Teams total damage increases 23%
SS= before n-ex threshold is fully charged, silverwing restores 1 sp per second out of battle
SSS= when scatter barrier ends or she exits to destroy the scatter barrier, a global timefracture is triggered for 2.5 seconds

Im not that knowledgeable on her skill level caps tho

limpid glacier
slate elm
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Are we sure s3 isn't just a leader skill upgrade

limpid glacier
old zinc
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SW biggest rankups seems to be S2 and SS1

limpid glacier
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She level cap upgrades are kinda good tho

old zinc
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S1 and SS2 are also useful

old zinc
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Idk how useful SS is

old zinc
limpid glacier
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S1 is a big boost in the %

steep axle
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oh can we make sw HoH support lowk

limpid glacier
# old zinc Idk how useful SS is

Gives her 1 sp persecond out of battle we won't know how good it is now cuz we won't know how good her sp regen will be w the dk

old zinc
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We dunno what attributes she has yet tho

steep axle
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oh catdead

old zinc
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I have a feeling she might be Symbiosis tho cause trio shenanigans

steep axle
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hle then

limpid glacier
old zinc
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That Im not so sure of

limpid glacier
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Is the public v1 beta tommr?

shrewd socket
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pretty sure v1 isn't public

limpid glacier
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What ever number is thats the public one

limpid glacier
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Okay v2 tommr

gleaming imp
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Omg a new trio KianaSparkle though I don't really feel the same hype for this trio

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Kiana and mei are matching but bronya is like they forgot to either tell her the theme to match or kiana forgot to tell bronya because sw stands out next to badum and mei

main goblet
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ig give her heart of the night skin TeriDerp
but at first let see what her tags are
and if the xdc ??? skill is related to her

slate elm
# limpid glacier It is leader skill unfortunately

yeah so while it may sound like a new skill, it's just going off of an existing skill. A new skill shouldn't mean anything on its own. You need to evaluate based on its actual substance and contents

Base = 24% ranged ice and 20% tdm
S3 = 3% more on each
SS3 = another 3% on each
For newer valks leader skill upgrades on these ranks are very typical

Mine is SS atm
https://i.imgur.com/APjlJ93.png

For some sense of scope, HoFi can get a 10% team total damage bonus if her weapon skill actually hits something, but this gets neglected most of the time. Keep in mind total damage is especially common and gets diluted in the formula too.

I'm not saying this skill cannot make a difference, but it's just not a major thing to expect from.

rain isle
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:o

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My SW is S1

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So she should be at least s3 by the time 8.8 hits lol

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Although I can choose her from the valk box (not like I have motivation to choose anyone else from that besides HoTruth lel)

limpid glacier
limpid glacier
slate elm
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i hope you mean don't, because that's what i'm saying lol

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but yeah at worst it's still atk

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and every little thing can add up

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or maybe 1 little point can be enough of a difference

limpid glacier
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Well most of them

slate elm
limpid glacier
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I think S1 is the most major rank up

slate elm
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i will say though, back in p1 we were on 15s rotations loosely speaking (SW was kinda flexible about it)

but p2 rotations are more about 25s so maybe we can mileage from that 5% increase more at ss1

old zinc
#

The combo bonus looks pretty big tbh

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Type counter is also nice but it's ignorable cause it's small

limpid glacier
slate elm
# old zinc The combo bonus looks pretty big tbh

if it was some single digit amount of breach/independent multi then maybe you can make an argument but this is just ice damage buff. That's still pretty common. I don't think it's anything separate

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ok i need to introduce another point of reference. LV s2 is big

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this is lv s2

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new skill. 30% lightning damage buff

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that's kind of what i'm looking for if i want something to be notable

limpid glacier
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The difference in ranks of a old p1 char and a mpre recent one LanternHeavyThoughts

slate elm
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sw is not thaaaat old jfc lmao

limpid glacier
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Grandma valk

slate elm
limpid glacier
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Perks of being a old valk is the outfits you will already have KianaSparkle

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Ceo outfit gives 1000 damage increase

slate elm
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which afaik is an independent multiplier and doesn't get addedly diluted the way other effects we're talking about have been

vale granite
limpid glacier
slate elm
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yeah well try older

vale granite
limpid glacier
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I canr wait to see her animations tommr

slate elm
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if you want to go by absolute terms then sure i won't argue

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but that misses my point

limpid glacier
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Wonder how much effort they put into it since no valk

slate elm
#

regardless of how old she may be, apparently she's coming back so this is what we're dealing with

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anyway hope that clears up reading her ranks

limpid glacier
#

Luna dk was kinda a let down 💔 in terms of animations

slate elm
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was it? I'm fine with it for the most part

limpid glacier
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Its okay its just okay for me

shrewd socket
limpid glacier
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I dont like how the fire work moves in her ult

slate elm
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try older

limpid glacier
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And her head tilts it seems so awkward to me

slate elm
#

i think the fireworks is really funny when thinking about kongming's story

limpid glacier
vale granite
limpid glacier
#

Evil

slate elm
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you know what this feels like?

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zoomers who tell me the nintendo wii is retro

shrewd socket
slate elm
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like sure. ok

limpid glacier
#

For me I just wish there was more fireworks and had a bigger impact

slate elm
#

i think the lone firework from their contraption kinda makes it more romantic? idk

vale granite
slate elm
#

and her cny outfit old ult might have fireworks already? idr tbh because i never use it

shrewd socket
limpid glacier
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Her old ult was peak so ig it is hard to recreate peak atleast you can still use it in loa

slate elm
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In absolute terms, yes she's old

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but so is anything p1

slate elm
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everyone is just so eager to try to make points at me for some reason lol

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doesn't matter the topic~

limpid glacier
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Because you are the mythical wize sairaan

slate elm
#

SW's sss skill is really funny since alot of p2 valks nowadays get their time fracture skill at S2

slate elm
dreamy pendant
#

BRONYA GETTING A KEY AND NO ONE PINGED ME?Dorysia

slate elm
#

there's been plenty of times i've been wrong~

shrewd socket
#

im still doubting ranks won't matter in glb rl

slate elm
#

maybe high rl it matters

limpid glacier
slate elm
#

we can prob loosely extrapolate from the recent tribunal cycle tbh

#

how were the ranks there for RL?

shrewd socket
limpid glacier
#

They just didn't mald as hard

slate elm
#

yeah RL tends to have astral ops that aren't doing much for them funny enough

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unless it's SD mobs

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and they need to hle dps there

limpid glacier
slate elm
#

lv is also quite popular

limpid glacier
slate elm
#

idk if anything the recency and the popularity should've led to greater expectations to me

limpid glacier
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I expected some SSS

slate elm
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mfw seeing a weaponless mei score less than PS bruteforce (RL)

shrewd socket
#

mobs.

limpid glacier
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Alot of people in global just do their abyss 1 or 2 times and stick with that score probaly

slate elm
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oh wait i mistyped

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it wasn't weaponless

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it was a unmaxed weapon

shrewd socket
#

XDC has low atk

slate elm
#

the mobs even in RL were very tanky

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they really wanted you to XDC insta kill them which is obvious

shrewd socket
#

tbf that's gonna be every XDC cycle

slate elm
#

so XDC at any lacking capacity still has that lead over other teams that don't have her

limpid glacier
#

Same thing with her MA rice cake

ember locust
slate elm
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so seeing any RL XDC score below non XDC scores is just really silly

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i've been hearing alot of horrors of MA rice cake tbh

ember locust
limpid glacier
ember locust
slate elm
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yeah me neither. I was watching a friend do it and the only thing i remember was the osu

limpid glacier
limpid glacier
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You can clear it it just gonna take a bit long like brute forcing the ma pig for rita

slate elm
#

this is HoS

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who is even older than SW

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this was considered kinda major to kinda consider at the time

limpid glacier
#

Wow sw ranks r just sad then

slate elm
#

and HoS was during a time when dupes and rank ups weren't the same kind of standard as they are now

limpid glacier
#

Oh yea the rates sucked

slate elm
#

yeah and leader skill was on S2 for her

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and SS2

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but that's a digressive point

limpid glacier
#

Best thing from p2 was them increasing the amount of frags you get for dupes

slate elm
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the point is for more common multipliers, at least give me something like 15% before i start thinking it's remotely chunky

slate elm
limpid glacier
#

And so the one that helped her sp regen but I think that is SSS tho?

slate elm
#

SSS is starting sp. notable for MA where you don't get any

limpid glacier
#

Ahhh

slate elm
#

anyway i think we can close that topic up now. I need to go anyway

limpid glacier
#

Yes and I need to sleep

slate elm
#

not saying to ignore SW ranks but don't put too much weight that it messes up your account either

slate elm
# old zinc Type counter is also nice but it's ignorable cause it's small

oh just to clarify something, the type counter effect mentioned here is just extra TDM if you have that type matchup. It isn't part of the type counter multiplier itself. It's just basic total damage i'm pretty sure. And you're only getting 2% more for that specific bit (edit: oh wait you already acknowledged that last part lol)

old zinc
#

Oh yea i didnt think it would increase the type counter multiplier in general

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That would be kinda silly if that's what it did

slate elm
#

yeah that would've been huge if so lol

main goblet
#

is it ok if i get a summary of the rank talk bc i cant backread rn LanternHeavyThoughts

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might change if dk suggests otherwise but good to know

abstract night
edgy drift
slate elm
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haha what the

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how cute

rain isle
#

Chibi lobby KianaSparkle

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So adorable MeiBlush

muted mauve
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I'm wondering who will get a DK next anniversary.

I have a idea if they want to tie it into the story but most dks are kinda random nowadays

gleaming imp
#

I hope it’s FoV

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Since she came out after horb and LV

old zinc
muted mauve
old zinc
#

They used to like with 7T and SoE

old zinc
muted mauve
old zinc
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I know

muted mauve
#

Then I'm confused because it feels to me like you're asking something that is already in the comment KianaHuh

old zinc
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I know u the lore expert though and I didnt bother read P2 so I wanted you to correct me in case I was wrong

muted mauve
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The last time a DK tied to the story was brick.

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If they wanted to tie the next one to the story they could have Goddess Senadina release in 9.0, have her disappear on that patch's chapter and then leave our Sena a gift for her return.

But since most are random it can honestly be anyone from part 1.5 and now with Silverwing even before that.

Inb4 Flamescion DK to powercreep Lantern. TeriDerpMelon

muted mauve
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it's one of those things:

  • There's not enough time to give Sena a character arc
  • Even so, Senadina (the goddess) is basically destined to disappear at the end of this arc and for Sena to return
  • Sena does not work with the current main cast, a DK would let her support either RoO or Symbiosis so that she could be run with Dragonlord Coralie / Planar Helia
desert lily
old zinc
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Oh yea

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Who knows maybe

desert lily
#

I would guess the same tags as HoRb but with HS

desert lily
final locust
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sw dkey

abstract night
#

Whats companion star?

muted mauve
final locust
abstract night
#

We know that?

abstract night
final locust
#

cuz seele support kinda shit

#

i dont see why shed want sw hle over vita hle

abstract night
#

O

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Uhm

desert lily
#

Well then

desert lily
atomic coral
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was probably thinking of her goi support

desert lily
#

It's decent tbh

#

But WS is good cause she buffs Reso DMG

smoky lintel
#

her syncs are really good fur WS yeah

bitter urchin
#

When does ely skin drop?

desert lily
desert lily
#

Since you're SEA

scarlet sapphire
#

Should already be Friday in SEA

desert lily
#

Yeah

#

But no Ely outfit yet though
It'll probably be later in the day for y'all

obsidian berry
#

4hr

desert lily
#

Alright

final locust
smoky lintel
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She's used with vita, iirc there also were scenarios where you ran spark fws Horb on lobster

desert lily
fervent hinge
#

What if we got a full racing suit as an outfit one day ohno peak or shit? The chequered flag on the skirt from the snapshot made me think

desert lily
abstract night
vale granite
#

What kind of racing suit

desert lily
#

I can see it going for that theme

fervent hinge
vale granite
#

Max Verstappen outfit

fervent hinge
#

yes

#

add max verstappen as a valkyrie

vale granite
desert lily
fervent hinge
vale granite
#

LMFAO

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🇳🇱 🐻 🥛

#

(that's the best I could find for vodka TeriSad)

fervent hinge
#

just call the outfit maxim verstappov and:

  • Correct country ✅
  • No lawsuit ✅
  • No FIA giving you 5s penalty for being Dutch ✅
shrewd socket
fervent hinge
#

just googled that and I need eye bleach

fervent hinge
#

never seen anything so impractical in my life

vale granite
somber egret
naive briar
vale granite
#

Only 90%?

#

ig it's HI3, can't go too much higher than that

naive briar
fervent hinge
#

girl

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who tf driving in heels

shrewd socket
#

who said they're driving

fervent hinge
#

so they're posers

#

smh

naive briar
#

girl
HoR drives in heels

fervent hinge
#

the cosplays look good tho flaming aside

vale granite
#

Gotta have them heels

naive briar
#

child Griseo

vale granite
#

The exception that proves the rule

fervent hinge
#

sirin isnt

vale granite
#

Cuz she just floats, ye xdd

#

The feet still point down

fervent hinge
#

bro cuz gravity

shrewd socket
#

HoRb

fervent hinge
#

I'm now about to go looking at all the hi3 characters shoes to see how bad they are

vale granite
#

Either heels or floating in most cases iirc

fervent hinge
#

I think this is worse wtf

vale granite
#

Coralie has sneakers with massive heel part

vale granite
fervent hinge
#

in her fdd outfit she's standing on her toes on the floor with no heels

#

I'd screenshot but I don't even want coralie feet in my clipboard ty

shrewd socket
#

is it cuz it's coralie or it's feet

fervent hinge
#

both

#

I acc can't unsee this every fucking shoe has a fat heel or the valk is wearing literal heels

naive briar
#

cn gameplay LanternHeavyThoughts

fervent hinge
#

cn shoe discussion

vale granite
#

Or bare feet obviously

fervent hinge
#

most normal shoes award is prob carole tbh

#

why did I even click on raven her shoes are RIDICULOUS

desert lily
vale granite
#

Gotta show them now

fervent hinge
#

wtf bro

vale granite
#

LMFAO

atomic coral
#

dem claws

fervent hinge
#

I kinda respect it just bc its raven

#

should we move to honkai chat LMFAO

desert lily
naive briar
slate elm
#

this entire conversation

desert lily
slate elm
#

@warped socket @tawny scaffold

desert lily
muted mauve
#

The only thing I hate about Kiana being Fire SD is that should've been reserved for goddess Senadina.

Now, looking at the graph she either has to powercreep Songque or Sena if she is to be Stardust. (Literal the character related to Stars so like) TeriDerpMelon

desert lily
#

She can replace herself Dorysia

muted mauve
desert lily
#

PSY fire? Dorysia

#

Or well IMG Fire-

solar surge
#

I like fire, but maybe Sena could have ice, so p2 trio can cover the elements?
and she's been in "cold storage" for a while, so it might fit
~~unless ely is the real p2 herrscher leader ElysiaOhayo ~~

obsidian berry
solar surge
#

come to think of it, Ely's had more p2 content than Sena
HLE + HoH dkey vs just the one Carmen Senadiego

muted mauve
desert lily
muted mauve
# desert lily Another one?

There's the main story blue/white outfit that has yet to be released.
Wouldn't be suprised if it released on the 10th anniversary

desert lily
muted mauve
uneven loom
#

guys, no new units next patch, right? can i actually believe next patch is "rest patch"?

muted mauve
smoky lintel
uneven loom
#

i mean new valkyrie.

muted mauve
#

Youyun has a extremelly powerful mechanic locked behind SS

solar surge
#

any patch is a rest patch if you're not into what's on offer
...but yeah, patch after cny is usually pretty calm

uneven loom
#

welp, i did think about it too. maybe the strat next patch is:

  • get SW +1
  • SS youyun

which is basically equivalent to S0+1

solar surge
#

SW +1
silverwig's getting a weapon?

smoky lintel
#

Yes

#

Check pins

uneven loom
#

hmmm, all p1 upgrades are Dkeys, right?

smoky lintel
smoky lintel
uneven loom
uneven loom
#

me remembering the time where divine keys are actually rare. . .

smoky lintel
#

Well it's a way to suck money out of competitive players and ppl who have nostalgia for p1 battlesuit

#

And it seems like it is working

uneven loom
#

i mean it is. now give me p2 upgrade to FoV please. and HoS. im missing senti chan, really.

still vine
solar surge
#

we've had a senti dkey
so, clearly, we need a second senti

uneven loom
#

is it considered leak if i create a topic like: If HoS is given a p2 upgrade, what AR will she be?

#

or breaking any rules if i started a topic like it?

solar surge
#

the mods are pretty spooky about. Better not to try it.

gleaming imp
#

Or RoO, of the two I would prefer WoD tbh since it’s options are wider than RoO which is quite limited tbh

nova osprey
gleaming imp
#

I would not complain about WS HoSDerpNggt HoS_hehe_nopies

somber egret
nova osprey
#

Would be funny if sena took back some bosses because of youyun

gleaming imp
#

Please no, I don’t like senawho gameplay HeliaStopIt

uneven loom
#

but i would like more RoO units

scarlet sapphire
#

RoO is clearly designed as support first and foremost
Both Vita and FDD were primarily sold as breach supps

gleaming imp
#

I think hofin and vita as dps good to play, it’s just cora2 where it’s obvious dps wasn’t meant for her really like it was tacked on rather than something that feels nice to play

nova osprey
uneven loom
#

imo RoO DPS feels lackluster its because HoFi doesn't generate AR

scarlet sapphire
#

Maybe it's because I don't have SS Chenxue, but Vita dps has slow-ass AR recharge past the first one

gleaming imp
nova osprey
gleaming imp
uneven loom
somber egret
plucky cradle
#

amg 2027 LNY patch

smoky lintel
#

Since it's strictly a bit different from valk to valk and normally evolves around extra passives

somber egret
plucky cradle
gleaming imp
uneven loom
#

hot take: xentinel should've been hua, not mei

scarlet sapphire
#

Pulling for SS Astraops is so bleh
So expensive if you don't get lucky, overkill for RL
The only reason I have Chenxue at all is that I got lucky on my FDD pulls and needed to spend more xtals to get that stupid xy sword

smoky lintel
gleaming imp
#

Xy sword worth, since that thing is rare FuHuaRip_nopies

scarlet sapphire
#

(No regrets at all for spending extra to get that sword lol the fomo is so bad on it)

plucky cradle
#

and then they give you aops like Teri who directly affects the rotation

old zinc
#

I still dont have the XY sword

nova osprey
#

Same

scarlet sapphire
#

Teri is like the only aop I feel good for pulling
Since the marginal value of S rank is actually decent

uneven loom
#

wait, imagine we can exchange the brick to be a p2 brick. too cope?

old zinc
#

Yea Teri is actually pretty big for LoA

gleaming imp
plucky cradle
#

double special qte is crazy

gleaming imp
#

Cora1 exists but like I never use her tbh for my vita FuHuaRip_nopies

plucky cradle
#

valentines leeks omg

uneven loom
smoky lintel
nova osprey
gleaming imp
scarlet sapphire
#

Chenxue at S is a big help for initial AR, but
when does that actually make a real difference, lol

#

The second AR is the one that you actually need help for

gleaming imp
#

Last time vita wolf ran it was better to do 1 SO in RL iirc

uneven loom
#

true. 2nd AR being locked on SS really hurts, at least for my spending level.

gleaming imp
#

I think

smoky lintel
muted mauve
uneven loom
muted mauve
#

xentinel is specifically meant to pair up with the messenger (Kiana).

Hua could not be Xentinel. It be a completely different suit.

uneven loom
#

hmmm, is me getting songque AO a bad decision?

#

on spending event.

scarlet sapphire
#

Do you intend to roll for Youyun?
If so, Songque will do basically nothing for you. If not, the marginal value is probably better than JDS stamps or ELF boxes or whatever.

nova osprey
#

Songop would probs be a godsend if u have and is running ME+sena teams

#

Assuming u dont get youyun

#

Honestly the best thing u can get from spend event might unironically be sw frags 💀

muted mauve
#

SS Songque was great for the 3 uses I got of her before Youyun announcement SenadinaStare

frozen cobalt
#

is lantern stamp good

muted mauve
#

I want to sleep but beta soon BronyaRip_nopies

shrewd socket
#

sleep and wake up to beta

desert lily
solar surge
#

so, if next year's cny is (probably) da bronya
google says 2027 is the Fire Goat

...this sounds hilarious BronieStare

desert lily
#

Bio fire bronya Dorysia

naive briar
#

go sleeb. ai chan will take your place

glass nacelle
#

AF SakuraWTF

muted mauve
#

Silverwing has surplus

desert lily
#

Yeah that looks like Abyss flower a bit

glass nacelle
desert lily
#

Holy shit

#

Is that her finisher? SakuraWTF

desert lily
muted mauve
glass nacelle
#

Heavenly shift, resonance

muted mauve
#

Why is she nuking the Sea Of Data

desert lily
solar surge
muted mauve
#

Well, atleast she seems to have a little more work than the average DK.

Only 2 new animations still tho. TeriDerpMelon

still vine
#

didn't horbius only have 1 LanternHeavyThoughts

muted mauve
#

some get 2. some get 1.

solar surge
#

she also added blue stuff to the edge of the stage?

somber egret
#

Trio Nostalgia coming...

gleaming imp
# glass nacelle

So she supports badum dps and can use Kiana and Mei to support herself if needed, does this mean badum new bis team for loa is badum Mei sw?

gleaming imp
#

No breach though, maybe breach not needed

desert lily
#

Doubt it though

desert lily
#

If there isn't any

smoky lintel
gleaming imp
#

Oh TeriStonks

smoky lintel
gleaming imp
#

I hope v3 let’s be able to support Mei dps

smoky lintel
gleaming imp
#

Oh

muted mauve
#

resonance mark outside of stellar outburst SenadinaStare

naive briar
gleaming imp
#

2/3 for trio good enough I suppose

#

So like what do we call this trio?

smoky lintel
muted mauve
gleaming imp
#

Cny trio?

desert lily
#

Tbh we still don't know XDC'S locked passive

desert lily
muted mauve
#

when surplus over half.
Use weapon and summon a mini-resonance mark and get 4 proccs.

desert lily
#

So now we have surplus for WS and WoD

gleaming imp
#

How about adult trio? HoSHmm

desert lily
#

Drya we barely know LanternHeavyThoughts

smoky lintel
muted mauve
#

Silverwing has finisher on base-kit.
But others need SS Youyun. SakuraBox

somber egret
smoky lintel
#

Huh

muted mauve
#

Have 0 proccs left on Bronya and press ult to finish.

somber egret
desert lily
naive briar
smoky lintel
smoky lintel
#

Sounds reasonable enough tbh

naive briar
#

I don't understand tho why SW not HoTR

desert lily
shrewd socket
#

HoTr technically has Waxing Moon bc of HoFi

glass nacelle
#

Sw is newest (lore) LanternHeavyThoughts

muted mauve
#

because Silverwing is the adult Bronya.

Honestly, both her and Carole should've gotten it because of Moon Ring.

smoky lintel
#

Well SO exit is just kinda the standard these days, ig it's nice to give that to old valks but why lock it behind SS aop lmao

naive briar
#

forgor

prisma tartan
#

will be cooler if its hotr deky and new bronie BS

nova osprey
#

My sena with ss youyun bouta take back some bosses

prisma tartan
smoky lintel
desert lily
#

At least HoRb now has a WS Aop the can support her

smoky lintel
#

Well serapeum was an WS aop

#

Just for phys WS

desert lily
smoky lintel
#

Yeah but she still has WS Ari regen

#

Youyun will just be better

desert lily
#

I'm kinda surprised still that Sera is getting replaced also

muted mauve
#

Stigmata set: "The Almagest"
Figure: Ptolemy.

desert lily
#

Another Greek/Roman figure?

naive briar
#

That's a good pick

somber egret
desert lily
#

Is she studying astronomy?

desert lily
somber egret
shrewd socket
muted mauve
shrewd socket
#

what's TL name of the dkey btw?
Azure Thunder EX19?

somber egret
#

More Overworked Bunny EX19

naive briar
#

ElysiaGrab you, back in the room

somber egret
naive briar
#

Why is carv alive in chat. Go sleep before beta

desert lily
somber egret
#

Azurebolt Nucleus EX19

#

en gonna drop 星

rancid plank
desert lily
#

Ah

desert lily
muted mauve
#

蓝焰银隼0019:

  • Official - Falcon Flare 0019
  • Literal - Blue Flame Silver Falcon 0019

苍雷星梭EX19…… By the same logic you drop 苍 and 星 and then you switch the order.

desert lily
#

Falcon Flare 0019 is the official translation?

somber egret
desert lily
muted mauve
naive briar
#

RozaWeird shuttle thunder...

#

dropping 星 is fine -ish but 苍 sets the mood
especially when the set is astronomy related

naive briar
limpid glacier
#

Wow she looks amazing

#

Best dk animations

muted mauve
#

Gunblade user finally get to use her blade outside APHO.

#

@.kirastar you next.

somber egret
#

where gunblade Kira

somber egret
limpid glacier
somber egret
#

But microphone deals more damage than pistol

hazy seal
#

Yet her singing wont improve

muted mauve
naive briar
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I give my Kira the microphone weapon, should get a DK some time

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and you know I know one man who is fit for doing Kira's singing

old zinc
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Not really

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Not at all

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# desert lily Another Greek/Roman figure?

that's... really complicated
iirc, Ptolemy was one of the three heirs to Julius Caesar (the Triumvirate, alongside Augustus and Some Other Guy), who was given the Egyptian "chunk" of the Roman Empire

old zinc
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Am I insane for liking her old ult a little more than the SO finisher?

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Like the SO finisher is amazing Im not complaining

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But idk I guess it feels like it’s overdoing it?

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Silverwing will be our third Bio part 2

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Or at least the first Ptolemy was

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All of his descendants are simply Egyptian