🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[slate elm]

iffy then but not something to completely rule out

[desert lily]

I might pull it
Though that'll depend on my XDC pulls

[muted mauve]

This is a sign

[rancid plank]

I have enough for Mei + Luna hard pity but no more unless I get lucky or stop slacking story

[desert lily]

I do too also but tbh To the Flawless is a bit long kek

[slate elm]

i'm actually going to catch up on chenxue op which i prob shouldn't do lol...

[desert lily]

Me with Teri op

[slate elm]

@naive nexus just to clarify more

i wouldn't spend 60 rolls at worst just to get solely +10 atk. But if other factors and actual uses do help you greatly then it's a nice bonus on top.

If you're urgently in need of Symbiosis supports then I would especially consider LV dkey if you can safely afford it along with other things of interest.

[rancid plank]

Maybe if my rolls go amazing

[copper shale]

dkey mid

worse than hohe

but still need to +3

[still vine]

[slate elm]

someone teach luna how to cook

[rancid plank]

She’s a Kaslana it’s impossible

[steady grail]

Are allowed to Talk about new cn Story and Event already?

Or is it too early?

[desert lily]

Not on glblul

[steady grail]

Well duh

[desert lily]

CN is already in 8.7

[steady grail]

Thats why me ask here

[steady grail]

Ik

The Mei Mei update

[slate elm]

Send Story/lore discussion, including CN in ⁠⁠📚honkai-lore. For CN stories please use spoiler tag.

From the pins

[steady grail]

So no non spoilered Images Here?

[slate elm]

prob not if it's cn story related

[steady grail]

But If me spoil

It should be alright

[slate elm]

granted the image i just posted is technically some kind of story image from a past event

just make sure to review the pins and rules in full if you're going to ask to clarify this much

or hold off if you want to be safe

i don't really give any guidance on story aside from keep any and all talk of it out of the help channels so i'm not the best to ask

[slate elm]

i think this was more saying to spoiler tag in the lore channel rather than here but idk

[steady grail]

Am i in Trouble then?

||Worth it||

[slate elm]

i personally don't think this is a big deal so we can move on for now

but i'm not a mod so i don't call the shots

[little bronze]

fair enough

man playing endfield makes my caps lock on

[slate elm]

i do see how you leaned that way overall. It was just an opportunity to give more insight and considerations

Sorry if the ping into the wall gave a scare lol

[little bronze]

one thing i notice is that with longer patchs, it becomes harder to skip weapons/valks if youre a new player
thanks for the nuance though, i do appreciate it

[slate elm]

yeah so some may value the short term more

there's been one case where i have accepted someone going after a rerun because they personally couldn't tolerate it

[novel elbow]

i got muted for posting that same image

[slate elm]

oh. Ok @steady grail you might want to be careful then

be mindful in the future. Please review all rules and pins before doing this sort of thing again

[novel elbow]

sometimes can be difficult to recognize leaks

[slate elm]

huh is it a leak?

i didn't keep up with this stuff so i didn't know

[novel elbow]

they told me that said image was not released on cn side, Which means it is a leaked image idk if things are different now

[slate elm]

hm ok. Ty for letting me know.
-# Prob is a case of the content being updated into the game files but still timegated within the game or something.

btw i'm just going to say, deleting a post doesn't prevent action from mods. But it's still better than leaving it there for everyone to see.

[naive briar]

You were reminded by Sairaan already but please read the pins again. No means no.
If you think it is worth making trouble on purpose, you get the deserved penalty.
Making this clear as you, sadly, already has a record on it

[prisma tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-plush-koharu-shimoe-no-gif-17791975049742690156

[glass nacelle]

Funny that they run sss bke

Ppl don't use luna dkey

[copper shale]

dkey trash

[slate elm]

https://tenor.com/view/theresa-apocalypse-luna-kindred-tericula-gif-4429098836422763880

[obsidian berry]

[rain isle]

Fr? Is it actually bad or smth?

I'll still get it for da +10atk but

[rancid plank]

They cooked too hard with hofi and decided never again, tragic really

[main goblet]

nah she's fine
it just looks like her main use is dps

but there's the stuff about using her with ps

idk about paws

since she doesn't give breach

[rancid plank]

Doesn’t she?

She has it on her base kit

[main goblet]

its converted to lighting dmg from dkey

[rancid plank]

Oh L

So you’d have to run paws Luna FDD

[main goblet]

yeah

[rancid plank]

Probably okay as a cope on say lightning clock if no PS

[main goblet]

its probably so she doesn't steal the couples from eachother collide with fdd

since at least vita's breach turns to dmg% if there's another breach

[rancid plank]

Well it would only matter for paws right it was lightning breach not ele breech

[main goblet]

yeah

might matter in the future but who knows

[rancid plank]

Maybe they will release a lightning LoA dps

[main goblet]

paws is the only current candidate

possible

[slate elm]

we did use vita to handle the bio mobs this previous abyss lol

but i guess that wasn't a case of focusing on lightning damage specifically

[main goblet]

is it me or is there some rng on the mobs

[rancid plank]

I mean it could still have hypothetically mattered on an LoA team if it was like

PS Luna paws/rita/vita

Or whatever

[slate elm]

uhh there prob can be? But with so much going on, there's prob variations from player behavior too

[main goblet]

since there's no emphasis on improving the lighting dmg here then its not a big deal

[main goblet]

true

[slate elm]

enemies can get damage reduction as they attack and the way they behave may be rng so that might affect things

[slate elm]

hm i can't remember what weather it was for that one guaymas cycle where both FWS and Sena dps were viable

oh i found it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCqR3LLYmGg

it really was lightning weather

so maybe vita had more of a sub dps contribution here as well

[main goblet]

yeah that's just bc the dist was getting too much for sena

but for ps she got no lighting bonus on her bosses obv

[slate elm]

LoA is a pretty weird ring type where it's more liable to having a non leader do a good amount of dps (although symphony and Wheel of Destiny are also guilty of this)

[main goblet]

so mainly the consideration would be paws

[slate elm]

i don't know if it was the dist

[main goblet]

she's lighting and got lighting weather

[slate elm]

because a later guaymas cycle happened that was resonance weather

which shifted completely to sena dps

but even if the boss is the same that doesn't mean they don't change the boss' innate bulk separate from the dist scalings

or at least i vaguely recall there were two sets of clock husk cycles with different weathers in recency of each other, and one was more tanky than the other?

i might be making stuff up here tbh. It's been too long

[main goblet]

afaik from the lastest-ish sena boss fws and lp were helping more with their dmg even if sena is still the main source obv

like bf when we did have fws we used hofi for buffs

and speed ig

[slate elm]

i will also say i have tried some mono fire LoA comp with FWS Sparkle and FDD and the results were very mid

so it's just this weird case of sometimes we care about the element typing on the non leader and sometimes we don't lol

[rancid plank]

For what boss? Like, fire kosma?

[slate elm]

i don't remember exactly

maybe it was mobbing the stages even... or both

#🎮honkai-chat message it was mobbing

i guess doing it on the boss wouldn't be valid if i wasn't able to use the best dps to begin with

although i guess i also could've tried fws dps with mono fire vs regular supports

well anyway don't let my words be anything conclusive

[copper shale]

in terms of what she does yea

slow on buff, slow on drain, buff is mid, can only be used in specific bleed weathers and as dps her dmg is back loaded being grail, as support she can only go help sushang

[rain isle]

Oh oof

It actually sounds kinda bad?

Personally I still gain cause at least I'll have a bleed dps lmao

Plus the +10 but ye

[vale granite]

It's similar to most P2 dkeys

[rain isle]

Nu, muh Seewe op

[copper shale]

hohe performs lot better on her own bosses

relatively

[rain isle]

Hohe gud too from my experience. HoFin Kiana still used sometimes

[vale granite]

Keep in mind they're cheaper, so lower value is expected

[copper shale]

and hohe grail is still fine

esp for supporting hle on non sd weather

if it ever calls for that

right now lv is only support for sushang

[copper shale]

not to mention the sampo runs in ma, cuz opener with eva ca wa

[slate elm]

hohe for loa is normally bad but it kinda evens out when you actually have to use her. TC against tank for example

I also used her in LoA against benares recently too but that's a more biased example.

[copper shale]

like if we calling hohe mid then lv straight up is bad

but ofc none of this matters since you have to pull anyways, even if her kit and stuff is disappointing

whels still have to +3

[slate elm]

yeah lol that's how they get us...

[vale granite]

Btw, how big is the diff between S2 and SS

For LV

[slate elm]

i'm still going to try to cope with LV sub dps in an LoA team but i know i'm setting myself up for some massive disappointment lol

[copper shale]

probs 20 or 30 points diff? it would depend on the actual cycle, and more gated by aops and rest of ur teammates ranks and stuff probs

i didn't follow with the latest bleed tribunal

[vale granite]

ig that's fine

[copper shale]

but i have quite a lot of friends that lv simps but yea got quite disappointed by her performance, but ig it matters less to them since half of them quit alr and nothing they can do

[slate elm]

i think it's pretty justified that she gets this sort of treatment considering how she stole horb weathers back in her prime lol

[copper shale]

maybe but horb dps is kinda meme in the first place

[slate elm]

at least horb is getting more spotlight now lol

[copper shale]

mostly ma and the occasional ws weathers yea

[slate elm]

i haven't been able to use her in abyss since i don't have the damage to justify her speed

as support i mean

[copper shale]

well ur problem is +1 horb

lol

[slate elm]

yeah lol

actually on that note when you were saying all this lv stuff, was that +3 lv?

[copper shale]

+3 she does good dmg off field, good buff, decently fast reso procs that u can skip a quarters

[copper shale]

still applies to +3

[slate elm]

ok i see

and yeah horb's syn stuff are pretty nasty to see lol. what was it, 20% reso damage and 60% crit dmg on ult finisher? lol

[copper shale]

yea its pretty monkaS

[slate elm]

something along those lines. I know some new player got fixated on them and it was tough trying to justify against it

[copper shale]

well they should realise they will likely not be in a position where the syn matters to them anytime soon

unless they intend to chase the top from the start

and start be like saori and like backpull everything

[slate elm]

i don't remember but it was a newer player so there were tons to explain

and ofc they wouldn't be so aware

[copper shale]

ig if they never touched a game that had weapon refinement/synergy yeah

most new players i encounter personally played genshin at least

[rain isle]

[abstract night]

So like hows mei as a ws support?

[copper shale]

idk, but mei ws seems ok

[abstract night]

Not good? Just okay?

[copper shale]

okay+ only seen her going into some reso team and evens score with loa

but thats ma

abyss no idea

[abstract night]

Okay then

[glass nacelle]

wish more img content

[desert lily]

[novel elbow]

with some other SD in between

chef kiss

||to hell||

[glass nacelle]

||qua||

[mossy escarp]

Delete qua thx

[shrewd socket]

call it the kiss of death

[abstract night]

I love qua

[desert lily]

Don't mind it since it's not as terrible as IMG and SD

[pearl rain]

is LV's new gear a DKey

[desert lily]

Yes

[abstract night]

SD and imaginary is awful.

Are awful*

[desert lily]

QUA is not bad unlike those two

[abstract night]

Oh wait

Oops i read it wrong

[desert lily]

[abstract night]

I agree with you!

Qua just needs evasions at minimum

Is it annoying?
Yeah sure

But atleast your dmg doesnt fall off a cliff

[desert lily]

SD has DMG reduction when they enter pink hp

Img just plain has two hp bars

Certain cycles also being Valk checks

[abstract night]

Sigh

I want rita cuz shes lightning, but id rather get mei.

[desert lily]

At least Mei has some lightning vfx

[abstract night]

I havent looked at mei much funny enough

[desert lily]

[abstract night]

Is she a good support?

[desert lily]

Don't fully know how to answer this since it depends

[abstract night]

Whats that mean

[desert lily]

Was trying to find a video to see if it covers anything
I would say with what she has, likely for FWS, HLE, HoRb, and Luna

[main goblet]

as far as i have seen everyone that did beta tests with GoI used her as sym support
i have seen few LoA stuff but i can't say for certain if they used her there because she's good or something else and its been mainly fws
idk about WS

[abstract night]

I got fws so it works out teehee

[wicked patrol]

Where is lunar vows sig weapon?.. o

[main goblet]

xdc might be good for dudu because weather advantage but as i said im not sure
ps not likely because she likes to use fdd + lp and luna became an option

[main goblet]

its coming next patch, you can look at pins

[desert lily]

Would say for WS
Mostly HoRb
Idk about the other three

[main goblet]

maybe
but i would rather check if i can

lp is a stable slot
and then you have fws and hle so she would need to complete btwn these 2

[abstract night]

I want teri support

[main goblet]

i still think that jds is a strong candidate but she's a semi stable slot now because her main use is the critical point
and like the sd swarn abyss that showed to not be important

[abstract night]

I want helia support

I want all of ws support cuz like fun

[nova osprey]

I want more mark placer support

[main goblet]

DR is pretty much the most tag available

[nova osprey]

[abstract night]

Songqueop goin bonkers for ele

[shrewd socket]

WS and fun in the same sentence

[abstract night]

It is

[desert lily]

Don't have Vita so

[main goblet]

i mean u can still try carnival but there's no guarantee

[nova osprey]

Pretty sure jds doesnt have resonance tag, unless ur talking about loa support

[desert lily]

Also the 80% crit DMG so

[main goblet]

im talking about fws support

so fws leader jds last slot

with fdd being the stable slot

[nova osprey]

Me with no fdd

[main goblet]

try ur luck at carnival ig

[nova osprey]

Nah id win s2

[main goblet]

newbies next patch gets the chance to reroll for fdd which is funny

[abstract night]

Im so mad

Fdd has gotten no normal banners

[main goblet]

she did get in 8.5

[abstract night]

Am i just absolutely stupid

I am

Bc that banner is so stupid actually
Why was it during spending

They never do that

[desert lily]

To bait people into getting FDD

[abstract night]

I still need her weapon >:(

[nova osprey]

Atp just keep her wpless

[abstract night]

But dps :k

[nova osprey]

Just take the L on any ignite weather

[abstract night]

I hate doing that

[desert lily]

She'll likely get a boss next patch

They could easily rerun Aka or HoV but they probably won't

[nova osprey]

Or just do like bita dps ffd support for ignite weathers

[nova osprey]

Or any other dps with fdd support

[abstract night]

Ahem heres my goi and loa dps

My LoA has
||badum
Badum342
Badum37472
Badum 291
Apple
Nobody else
Sorry||
GoI has
||Helia²
Thats it||

[nova osprey]

Just do fws fdd paws then

Or paws fdd fws

[abstract night]

Isnt fdd sad compared to vita tjo

[nova osprey]

Fdd is better than bita in basicly everything

[abstract night]

Weaponless

Fdd

Specifically

[nova osprey]

Doesnt affect her support capabilities much

[gleaming imp]

You use vita FDD together in loa

Just like how you used them together for mobs with badum

But I Hurd that duo only had one niche ps boss?

[smoky lintel]

well before that boss it did

and we couldnt have know what's BiS on that boss because it didnt ran since like 7.9 or smth

it's still niche lmao

[abstract night]

Kallen should come back

Havent seen her since idek

[abstract night]

Hi mango

[smoky lintel]

[abstract night]

Hru

Idt ive talked to u since last year

[smoky lintel]

busy but i'm good

been quite a while indeed lmao idk how long though

[abstract night]

Hope it gets lighter~

[smoky lintel]

it's manageable but yeah less things to do would be nice hru btw

[abstract night]

Im alright

[smoky lintel]

that's nice to hear

[abstract night]

I havent been as much on hi3 as i should be smh

[copper shale]

should never really consider weapless valks tho

[abstract night]

I know that

Omg wow my 3 year anniversary

2 days

[glass nacelle]

20 pulls = 2 a cora

nice

[still vine]

[craggy sentinel]

insane

thats like atleast 2 a coras

[glass nacelle]

amg thelema shill

[copper shale]

wat the grail

mei time

makes more sense now ig tho

[rain isle]

:o

[glass nacelle]

https://x.com/i/status/2022279586445165003

Honkai Impact 3rd (@HonkaiImpact3rd)

"The blade may be a weapon of violence, but it serves to protect. This power was born from protection, and it will surely protect many more."
Raiden Mei's new S-rank battlesuit "Xentinel · Dawnbearing Crescent" is debuting in v8.7! Stay tuned!

#DayWithMei
#HonkaiImpact3rd

X · Feb 13, 2026, 12:00 PM

#daywithmei

[craggy sentinel]

ong

[willow perch]

#daywithches

[novel elbow]

#protectmywallet

[slim lion]

#Imcooked

[main goblet]

#givemextalsthx

[desert lily]

#givememetalsandhonkaishards

[main goblet]

ill give u if u donate xtals for me pls/s

[somber egret]

cooked lily

[desert lily]

I hope some freebies include metals and Honkai shards

[craggy sentinel]

imagine being poor

[desert lily]

I have more xtals than you

[craggy sentinel]

silly ai bean you cant eat flowers

[craggy sentinel]

ok no sena

[desert lily]

You don't have her weapon

[craggy sentinel]

i still have her

[desert lily]

If anything my EU account has 4/4 Sena

I wish I could drag her to my NA account

[craggy sentinel]

ok sinful2

dang it riley just accept the whateveer im saying

[rancid plank]

No waxing says what

[desert lily]

I forgot he didn't have Waxing Moon

[craggy sentinel]

fuck

when wax rerun i'll pull trust

[desert lily]

Sureee

[craggy sentinel]

shuddup

anyways

how good is lubern in a loa team anyways

just a ps support?

[desert lily]

Likely

[craggy sentinel]

whatever she's kool so she gets a mid pass

[desert lily]

Lunabad

[craggy sentinel]

[abstract night]

onlybc1000000peoplewillwhales3forherandcomebackalive

[desert lily]

[main goblet]

the boxes will have it

[desert lily]

Yatta

[main goblet]

considering that there's like 500 heavenly shift units that's pretty much where her utility shine the most
unless people cook with her

[desert lily]

I mostly see Luna with PAWS and PS

[main goblet]

yeah

fws is mostly locked to jds + breach (mostly fdd) aside from the boss we had but even then fdd + lp were used in nirvbanana
and dudu has physical weather although she can use mse so yeah

[desert lily]

ME has good Phys buffs too

So I can see why pairing ME with RS

[main goblet]

[desert lily]

[rain isle]

[main goblet]

[rain isle]

[desert lily]

[rain isle]

[prisma tartan]

[stable timber]

[abstract night]

I shant follow trends

[main goblet]

u did send a box though

[rancid plank]

Does anyone have a list of bchip bundles for next patch? I know there was the scam one for P1 S rank but I’m mostly looking for ones that give spending event currency

[somber egret]

No B-Chips Bundles that gives Spending Event tokens

[rancid plank]

Tragic

Ty

[somber egret]

I think they stopped that bundles since P2 started

Was only checking the bundles, then got lucky with 10 pulls

[craggy sentinel]

hey fdd’s patch had that

i think its more of a mini spending thing

[rancid plank]

Ic

Maybe I should get the overpriced bundle then actually, if I’m going to get the horb from bpass anyway it would be basically 24 crystallum for 2000 bchips. That’s like twice as efficient as Paladin

[somber egret]

oppsieee

[copper shale]

ches not ches

who this ches

where real ches go

[rancid plank]

Gz

[somber egret]

My Belly

[desert lily]

Ate himself

[copper shale]

its not that bad but dont u live fine in eu anyways

[desert lily]

QT is NA

[copper shale]

oh

well even betteer

after mei just use her to cope

[somber egret]

Still Horbless ?

Wasn't horb in the spending before

[rancid plank]

That was before my time

[desert lily]

8.1

Patch before QT started

[somber egret]

Ohhhh

[rancid plank]

26 bucks for horb is a lot if it was like 15 bucks I’d def do it lmao

[desert lily]

[copper shale]

cost like 50 for me

[desert lily]

God damn

[rancid plank]

Christ

[copper shale]

would be nice to earn usd and then pay everything in yen

[desert lily]

I'm not buying it since I have no reason to

[rancid plank]

You could use it to get Hofi

Let you backpull waxing

[desert lily]

No

She dead anyways

[copper shale]

well the +10 atk is pretty nice regardless of the valk
but only if u meta meta

actually +20

[desert lily]

And if I have the xtals

[copper shale]

swipe

[desert lily]

Did
But only for 2 monthly and a knight

[rancid plank]

Well this box is same price as 2 knight if u think about it

[desert lily]

Got 600 b chips ready for next patch knight

[rancid plank]

(Please ignore that it’s more expensive than 2 knight)

[desert lily]

Bruh was gonna say it's 300 b chip

Then you said that

[copper shale]

well gotta take acc of time ig

[somber egret]

She still good.... as WS Support
But I only remember using her with the recent Sparkle Fire Tona since I was making guide for that and comparing Badum and Waxing

[copper shale]

if u got it the moment the box was a thing u prob can use it twice or somethign now in abyss as lead for horb

[desert lily]

If I could buy the box, I would just get HoRb for ranks

[copper shale]

even if its more expensive than 2 knights it lets u have it now

well also, i rather think of it in terms of 2 patches

lol

and then theres' prob vita stuff in bp

[desert lily]

But I can probably buy stamps from the reserve works plus the character after I get my last two dkey's

[copper shale]

which means ur balls ought to go the stamps and the syn too ig if u can afford

[desert lily]

DKey not there

[copper shale]

balls are pretty limited so the box is pretty good if ur planning on getting horb anyways

but ur na so that changes stuff a bit

[rancid plank]

I’ll decide in 2.5 weeks prolly

Not like the top up bonuses this patch are very good, higher tiers big scam

[desert lily]

After getting AF and FHD
I'm likely going for ranks on my HoRb

[copper shale]

top ups is only the 300 bchips for 2 pulls

everything else, including the 5 pulls + some xtals arent good

[rancid plank]

The source prisms were lowkey nice tbh

[copper shale]

cant relate

i have too many of that from pulling +3

[rancid plank]

I’m not that big a whale

[desert lily]

Whel

[copper shale]

f2p

[desert lily]

Nor am I

[copper shale]

but also

if u just played longer then u prob have a lot

[rancid plank]

Yeah I’d have plenty but I keep being tempted to backpull

[copper shale]

did u backpull anything so far

[rancid plank]

Like I spent 21 on hofi and Thelema and Badum

Well, 17 on Thelema

[copper shale]

is dumping prisms on old stuff really called backpull

badum not even that old

[rancid plank]

Well I backpulled the characters

[desert lily]

Thelema's spending event

[rancid plank]

Got Badum from carnival, waxing from FDD patch, Thelema + wep in hle patch for my Rita supp

[copper shale]

thel doesnt really count does it, she free

[rancid plank]

Her wep cost me 24 balls

[copper shale]

still "free" to me

but did u lcuk out with badum

[rancid plank]

No

[desert lily]

You mean 20

[rancid plank]

Whatever same diff

[copper shale]

honestly thats not bad

i backpulled a lot more

[rancid plank]

I also backpulled flawless benediction but I was too low on prisms so stigs all l35

[desert lily]

Only Valk I back pulled is my HoRb

[copper shale]

dkey backpull i always consider it fine, then again my lens kinda biased

[rancid plank]

In that case only real backpull I did was Badum carnival

[copper shale]

was it on hle patch i forgot, at least u got some good value

[rancid plank]

Yeah

[desert lily]

Yes

[rancid plank]

Got me Thelema and some elf frags

[desert lily]

Mine will always be 3/4 P1 HoRb

[rancid plank]

Eventually they will add her kit to exchange shop and you can get 4/4

[copper shale]

which one u missing

[desert lily]

Don't think it's worth getting her b stig anymore

[copper shale]

tb kinda works well

xd no b

as much as old p1 stigs worked without 3/3, they made it so u really want tb

[desert lily]

Gotten t stig and her weapon first then M stig

[rancid plank]

And for everything else there’s newt B?

Or were people just coping with that

[copper shale]

well it depends on strat yea ppm newtb, glut t was used a lot, and on bleed mobs, then u have 5 aladdins

[copper shale]

its fine ish, depends on bracket and skill

u need to be good player

rl def fine

nirv is kinda hard lol

esp old nirv had lot less spots

well in the sense that theres no +0

[rancid plank]

Only been to Nirv twice but yeah in P1 I wouldn’t even be able to try a retain

[copper shale]

well its not entirely same cuz we also had a lot more players

demote and myriad isnt something u expect to see

[desert lily]

I've been to Nirv 4 or so times

[rancid plank]

Wait technically this is my third time I guess

[desert lily]

My first time was on a Sa

Sa, Wolf, Marut, and then SD Mob

[rancid plank]

Rllly was tragic that you missed HoI Nirv

Coulda myriad retained

[desert lily]

Depends but maybe

Sa, lightning Wolf, Reso Vita, Marut, SD Mob
All the times I got into Nirv

[copper shale]

if u can do refresh thing on hoi u get a pretty decent score

[desert lily]

I'll still despise last cycle

[copper shale]

i alr forgotten what it was
do we know if top up reset next patch i forgot

[desert lily]

I think so

[copper shale]

o cool

~~here i come s2+1 +3 ~~

[desert lily]

Whel

[long sonnet]

When will 8.7 time gate be gone

[supple furnace]

I need content

[glass nacelle]

【【崩坏3】 9s+9 芽琪爱 ios寂灭渡鸦831 (560扰)-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/259UsIo

Damn 15m ult

[slate elm]

@vital island https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2EqKgZMu-4

[copper shale]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1y9ZjBYEkq/?spm_id_from=333.788.top_right_bar_window_dynamic.content.click&vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

[glass nacelle]

【我爸妈结婚上天台跳过这个【陶典&菊花花/翻唱】-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/ClxJogT

Nice gay

Kiamei VA sing

[main goblet]

what in the

[rain isle]

Awawawa

🍞

[copper shale]

raven things

[main goblet]

[copper shale]

maybe needed maybe not, ik i probs wont need it becuz i wont have dmg in p2 anyways to do early ring

but lower d maybe diff story

[hard meadow]

[obsidian berry]

What dis abis?

Nvm i check photo

Forkin meibad shill

Slep

[glass nacelle]

funny that elybad ult still hits when enemy ded

[obsidian berry]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-sleep-gif-12073235593935901891

[willow perch]

bobabad

[rain isle]

@willow perch chaigood

🍞

[glass nacelle]

Nice bot react

[rain isle]

XD

[quasi glen]

When I'm in a kiamei shipping contest and my opponent is kiamei cn va

[craggy sentinel]

what in the gay

[gleaming imp]

#besties

[rain isle]

@gleaming imp

[tired cliff]

[steep axle]

does any of the mei VAs do fan content voicing or whatever its called

[ember locust]

Thelema VA's fan content when

Fr

[steady pagoda]

silly question about the Hi3rd event, is the Chinese event over or is there still a final part?

[desert lily]

Huh?

[hard meadow]

[obsidian berry]

🌈

[hard meadow]

i think you accidentally installed the wrong game

[primal quail]

its peak

[naive briar]

go check her page

[ember locust]

There is one ?

[naive briar]

she cosplayed Thelema and threw little scolds as her fan requested

[ember locust]

Oooh interesting

JP VA or CN or both ?

[naive briar]

CN. JP va cannot voice the character outside of work
Like Sandrone JP VA requested permission from hoyoverse after her first Genshin gaming stream got unexpectedly popular
They could lost their jobs otherwise

[ember locust]

😭😭 Awful for JP

But still cool to see it's possible

[naive briar]

It's not awful for managing their IP... actors don't have the right to use characters they acted to say whatever they want to represent

[shrewd socket]

idk how to feel about this

[ember locust]

Not in that sense, but more like to not have fan content from the VA bc of this that is

[tired cliff]

where?

[obsidian berry]

https://tenor.com/view/r4ymo-rayvvs-gif-22819113

[shrewd socket]

https://space.bilibili.com/2412557

[quasi glen]

【【崩坏3】cos自己配音的角色~｜幕后vlog&读评论-哔哩哔哩】 https://vxb23.tv/cTlV3Xd

[vital island]

LOVEEEE it thanks ❤️ havent seen that before

guess im gonna need to spend next patch to guarantee both of the new valks xD

[rain isle]

[rustic sinew]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/houkai3rd/s/M5QvgIR5Ss

[naive briar]

@rustic sinew please post the original whenever possible

[rustic sinew]

Bili link in the post

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1MPZEB1E2H?buvid=XUD148CD19E20EC28119066794147D8CA1E7F&from_spmid=tm.recommend.0.0&is_story_h5=false&mid=ed833RRmfoHMkeouGI0pvg%3D%3D&p=1&plat_id=116&share_from=ugc&share_medium=android&share_plat=android&share_session_id=29cc1c04-6601-4b21-b944-19855c43cd40&share_source=COPY&share_tag=s_i&spmid=united.player-video-detail.0.0&timestamp=1771114906&unique_k=6hjvuQT&up_id=8469526

[glass nacelle]

late

[naive briar]

Thank you. Just hope that you understand the creators share it for free and depend on every view count to recover at least part of the cost of production.
If the post translates/explains it and links to the vide,o it's generally good.
Reposting the whole video is actually stealing a bit of their possible income.

[glass nacelle]

oh just realized spring lobby lasts until the end of patch

[glass nacelle]

20 pulls left

Prob 89 + 60

Fuck

[long sonnet]

Is cn 8.7 main quest out

[limpid glacier]

En beta tommr

[mossy escarp]

Sleep till feb 26

[shrewd socket]

this or next week

[limpid glacier]

[desert lily]

2 week or 1 week I'm guessing

[ember hemlock]

What stamps will be in supply shop next patch?

[main goblet]

same as this patch
no change

[ember hemlock]

cool

[flat inlet]

What's the next Abyss global? I may be able to break redlotus for the first time depending on what it is...

[rancid plank]

Fire weather quantum

Sparkle shill

Ideally sparkle dps but Badum with sparkle supp also works

[flat inlet]

Welp

Bye bye redlotus not this time

[rancid plank]

Do you have uhhh FDD?

[flat inlet]

I do yeah

[rancid plank]

Might be able to retain A3 with fdd dps if you have a full team for her

[flat inlet]

I'll retain fine. I just... won't reach redlotus like I was hoping

Ty!

[rancid plank]

No prob

[desert lily]

I'm either gonna -100 or retain depending on the bracket

[gleaming imp]

P1 nostalgia on top

[desert lily]

Eh maybe maybe not

[floral fable]

should i get songque valk or astralop from the spending event

[copper shale]

no weap no point

unless bp

[desert lily]

Probably saves prisms if they don't get JDS

[copper shale]

prism is prob not too much of a concern

have time

[floral fable]

yea thats what i thought aswell

[muted mauve]

2025 vs 2026...

[somber egret]

2027 time for El— Ahem! Bronya I mean

[naive briar]

Deep fly or steam.

[glass nacelle]

Tomorrow is year of the horse

Dxy today trust

[main goblet]

who's shill is this...?

[desert lily]

HLE

Can't be Thelema since it's PSY

[desert lily]

Or HoHe

I'm guessing HLE though

[craggy sentinel]

hohe hle ez

[desert lily]

Other way around also

[mossy escarp]

Wow double ely double bad

[rain isle]

[desert lily]

I'm just gonna use HLE FDD Badum for speed

Or swap out Badum for PAWS/Mei

[rain isle]

[main goblet]

make it hohe hle thel

ely elf while we're at it

[desert lily]

[glass nacelle]

The last time was 2023

I'm old

[hybrid garnet]

Question is the returnee event getting any Changes in mei patch? Wanna make sure I don’t miss anything if I come back sooner

[glass nacelle]

Look like nope

[hybrid garnet]

I see, thanks!

[desert lily]

Just starter banners

[copper shale]

look like hle

[obsidian berry]

Eww elybad boss

[glass nacelle]

5 60 crys codes like usual

BTRCTAZXX33X

Prob wait 4 more days

[glass nacelle]

Ew double ely double bad

[limpid glacier]

Evernight , castorise, cyrene and speedwagon team omg

[main goblet]

play full ely

[limpid glacier]

Mpe with vb stigs

Is mei patch also 8 weeks loooong

https://tenor.com/view/jackenstein-deltarune-your-taking-too-long-pumpkin-gif-8036819712080210654

[glass nacelle]

【八年的光阴汇聚于此，史上最强月轮教学!-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/UFhLMOH

💀

[copper shale]

2 and half hour for a single valk

hua battlesuits

[glass nacelle]

[glass nacelle]

Happy new year everyone

[main goblet]

happy new year!!!

[untold marsh]

Happy new year :3

[limpid glacier]

Happy new year
Year of the honse

[plucky cradle]

happy new year peepo

[muted mauve]

SS Songque SO regen is too good. I can't go back to S AstralOps.

新年快乐

[still vine]

!

[obsidian berry]

Appy ew ear

[still vine]

[glass nacelle]

【【崩坏3】逆克制和平克制一个伤害，这对吗？sss+3瑟ss+3薇s0+3希专塔sss瑟拉批发B服寂灭688+冰伤贝贝龙(557扰动)-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/m9FMOx3

Ice res of benares = type counter

30% independent effect

It seems that disturbance does not affect this res

[desert lily]

Quite low for Thelema

[glass nacelle]

What I want to say is that even with ice buff, ice res is still very high

[desert lily]

[glass nacelle]

[copper shale]

the res is an independent multiplier

so yea

[shrewd socket]

ice benares?

[copper shale]

yes

[glass nacelle]

I remember that in 5.x update they mentioned that disturbances affect HP and res

[copper shale]

feels like different kind of res

[glass nacelle]

Ye

They doesn't mention ice res of benares

Only high fire res

And phys iirc

I was reminded of Quantum Abyss

They put ice form benares with ice buff

[copper shale]

good times

[glass nacelle]

[muted mauve]

I think I shouldn't be allowed to hunt on hide and seek

[glass nacelle]

【hyw？-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/11D7uoT

Kek

[copper shale]

hyw

[tawny bramble]

does anyone have new mei's team(s)?

[tawny bramble]

smh devs might be no.1 kiamei fans

[rain isle]

You know what the best thing is?

I have all those valks

Well, I will once I get Mei in a couple weeks lol

[tawny bramble]

lucky

im gonna cope with fdd or paws

no kiana 💔

wht abt vamp teriri team? with the dlc key

dlc weap

[main goblet]

well both are great, esp fdd

fdd is highly stable in GoI teams and with fws and ps
obv even people that dont have her can still use alternatives as long as they have the sym tag
and roo valks as cope if there isnt enough

for u tho u dont have a problem

[main goblet]

how does one do this
i have seen it on an extreme raven run
im mainly wondering if this is a preexisting issue thats only discovered recently or is it a new thing

[flat inlet]

How important is elysia for this?

[prisma tartan]

ring?

idk

iirc she has ??? on ely

[vale granite]

Not what the question meant

[prisma tartan]

oh yeah

damn

[vale granite]

Shouldn't matter enough to not retain Nirv

[flat inlet]

Oh okay so matters literally nothing to my agony ass

[prisma tartan]

yes

A1 pro here

[main goblet]

even less
what matters is giving a valk supports that match the ring type needed otherwise put roo valks as filler slots
the more options you have the mor variety you can do

[flat inlet]

Oh I've got options yeah.

[limpid glacier]

Hopuim for en beta tommr

[main goblet]

i want eng beta so i dont need to spoiler 😔

[glass nacelle]

But my friend has not paws to test

[novel elbow]

luna is one of hoyo favorite valk i bet shes op

[glass nacelle]

[strange crystal]

What about Luna DPS?

[glass nacelle]

well

[prisma tartan]

idk about that,just resending

[strange crystal]

Oohh

[prisma tartan]

ye

i dont even know her ring cover

[strange crystal]

Does Luna DPS needs Coralie? She can give herself breach right, and if I'm seeing the numbers correctly, it's actually higher than Coralie

[prisma tartan]

u can watch this ig,on pins

[strange crystal]

Thanks! I'll check rn

[glass nacelle]

goi is even worse

but i don't have paws to test with luna

ded

[strange crystal]

Welp, I'm checking it now and... forgot that CN beta valks are SS

[main goblet]

incase u need it, fdd is a general stable in some teams because of her breach, lv's breach is converted to lighting dmg btw
also fdd doesn't take much time as well
the last slot depends on what you have or if a boss requires something
for luna the main shill for her dps is bleed and she covers it so there isn't any strict requirements on the last slot
mei seems to be used a lot, can't tell if its bias or not but she seems pretty good so its not a bad assumption
others don't really have anything unique for lv but you can use them
for example fws is a popular pick for being pretty fast, ps is slightly slower but offers more buffs (her being bleed can count but also her boss is mech so...)
in the end it depends on who you have or plan to get, because even if you don't have the best goi support, meaning the tag requirement or having the best alternative for role filling is the most important approach

[inland hill]

OMG WHAT

[main goblet]

oh yeah paws can be used too but honestly there isn't that much data about her support aside from symphonic teams since she's the only lighting sym valk bf 6.7 but she's still fast enough

[main goblet]

its in the pins already

[inland hill]

I just got here haha T~T

[main goblet]

oh haha its okay

[inland hill]

ssooooo many valks are getting revamped, It's so cool, i hope the flamechasers too will have their turn, aponia my beloved TT

[rain isle]

More Seewes plz 🍞

[feral epoch]

favorite fan service

[velvet dune]

What is this?

[limpid glacier]

Hoping so bad tommr en beta

[glass nacelle]

lunabad

[desert lily]

Yes

[feral epoch]

yes

[glass nacelle]

[desert lily]

New Seele hopefully soon

[still vine]

hair down kiana cute too, haven't had that since void drifter

[strange crystal]

Thanks for info. I was just wondering what's the best team and best use for Luna since I'm planning to pull her DK too. I have FDD, PAWS, and PS. I'll also pull XDC.

[glass nacelle]

Hoh in 2026

[copper shale]

is all just team ranks

ig s0+1 fdd or something

so he goes hohe lead

[glass nacelle]

Huh

[copper shale]

low support rank and probs s0+1 hle so hohe dps better

tats what im saying

[glass nacelle]

S0 hle in 2026

[copper shale]

indeed

fund me s2 cora thx

[glass nacelle]

Just lucky in carnival banner

[main goblet]

fdd is a safe pick, i would wait later for more info about the rest

[desert lily]

S2 FDD better??

[copper shale]

well for u hle would be better here pretty obvious

[desert lily]

Yeah

I have DKeyless HoHe anyways

[desert lily]

Again with using HoRb's weapon

[main goblet]

what does dkless hoh have to do with this tho
not that mei or lv have anything specific with her anyways

[copper shale]

ice benares, whether use hoh as lead or hle

[main goblet]

oh

yeah hle it is

[desert lily]

[main goblet]

hle fdd wtv slot

its just like how with ice paros u use hle fws fdd

[desert lily]

Probably Badum for speed or PAWS

[main goblet]

tbf fws does have smth for paros but u get the point

[copper shale]

ideally u use hoh but no dkey

[main goblet]

yeah

[desert lily]

HLE dps my best option

[copper shale]

as in support with hle lead

[desert lily]

Ah-

Well

[main goblet]

yeah althoug hoh in there is mainly for dmg

[desert lily]

I see

[copper shale]

should be paws for u

[main goblet]

if im in the mood i will do hoh hle thel
no ely elf unfortunately (for the memes)

[sand falcon]

Nothings new in the Asterite shop for 8.7 right?

[frozen cobalt]

Tf u mean hle got free 10x but not mei

[velvet dune]

Cn Anni vs cny

[frozen cobalt]

Hle is a rerun banner

[desert lily]

CN anniversary Valks get free ten pull
CNY get the usual 50%

[novel elbow]

mei is free ten pull?

[shrewd socket]

discount

[still vine]

~~so a free 5 pull ~~

[strange crystal]

Is the main event story already done in CN? Are there any new character appearance at the end like Mei?

[glass nacelle]

No

Wait main story

[strange crystal]

I mean the main event, the Mei event

Wait I just checked... ooooh it's finished I see.

[restive wyvern]

i know the advice is to pull for new valks but should i get the new mei if shes not compatible with the new rita? im a returnee so i barely have anything 😭

meanwhile hle can support rita so im thinking of skipping mei for her instead

[shrewd socket]

XDC (Mei) doesn't work as a support for ME (Rita) and viceversa

the only situation where you use both is in a LoA team, and even there it depends on the boss

[naive briar]

xMei

[shrewd socket]

why would one multiply by Mei?

[willow perch]

Mei^²

[shrewd socket]

that too much for Kiana

1 Mei already doing a lot

[restive wyvern]

so should i skip her? id like to focus on a rita team first then move on

[shrewd socket]

no, you can get HSS supports for ME over time, but lacking her current whole team now isn't a reason to skip new valks just bc they don't work with her

[restive wyvern]

hss?

[shrewd socket]

Harmonized Shadow Star, support tag for WoD, which is ME's astral ring

[restive wyvern]

ahhh

okay thank you!! ^__^

[rain isle]

Que

[limpid glacier]

1 copuim 1 hope will en beta be tommrow or next week thurs we will have to wait and see

[shrewd socket]

nah next week

[feral epoch]

sleep

[still vine]

when the entire like top 12 has sparkle and i don't

https://tenor.com/view/guess-ill-die-gif-9704573

[glass nacelle]

Use teri and retain ez

[still vine]

didn't fall for that bait

[main goblet]

fdd could retain

in rl or lower ofc

[still vine]

well too late now

[main goblet]

[desert lily]

Kinda didn't feel deserved to retain with FDD on Tona kek

[slate elm]

When i rec'd to skip both teri and sparkle i expected ppl to retain on qua pig and vita if they fight for it, but demote on tona and kosma

So being able to retain with fdd sounds like a heist lol.

[desert lily]

Survived in t8 with 739

[slate elm]

Truly sparkL

[desert lily]

Kek

[exotic tree]

When ch 11EX will be release?

[somber egret]

No Spark or Teri can survive Tona and Vita

But surely not kosma

unless everyone in that bracket is missing spark

[placid delta]

do we know whats added to free bp next patch

[smoky lintel]

horb and kira

[placid delta]

wait real?

[smoky lintel]

yuh

[placid delta]

FAHHH

[willow perch]

8.7 info

Full stuff in HoRb and Kira

[placid delta]

thenks tea chai

gang hoo weap rn to 0s sampo or hrb stigs next patch for funsies

im at 11 balls rn so its like 3 patches to a full stig set tho grr

[flat inlet]

Feels odd for Kira's stuff to be added to reserve this patch

[desert lily]

In 8.7?

[flat inlet]

Yeah

[desert lily]

From what I can see they're doing is putting an S rank plus her gear then an A rank Valks gear with them into Reserve Works

[flat inlet]

I mean yeah, just to me it feels weird to me for her specificially. I don't mind at all cause I've been wanting her gear for a long while now. Think nothing of it.

[desert lily]

Next who they might add to reserve works seems a bit tricky-
After HoRb is Sirin then Luna then CE

[rain isle]

AYYYY SEEWE STAMPS

Kinda wanna wait for Vita stamps too tho....

[willow perch]

My Seewe and 🅱️ita already in SS0 club hehe

[rain isle]

Yay

Muh Seewe is SS1

Vita only S0 though :(

[willow perch]

:(

[rain isle]

How much does a stamp in bp cost again?

[abstract night]

In regular bp i think its 4 each up to 5
And 32

[clear vigil]

[rain isle]

Up to 5 stamps? Omoshiroi

[abstract night]

I said regular tho not vintage

[rain isle]

:(

Guess I need to login

[abstract night]

24? Idrr

And 3 for stamp

If ur not awakened

[supple rampart]

Is the upcoming new Mei a dps?

[main goblet]

part 2 s ranks are both

support and dps

[supple rampart]

Nice

[rain isle]

For vintage it is 5 stamps, 3 orbs each. So 15 to get them all for one valk, I can definitely get seewes then 🍞

[supple rampart]

It was almost 1 year ago I reinstalled the game after a few years and was wishing for a new Mei

Now i come back hoping to get her lol

[abstract night]

Nice

[main goblet]

yeah u can use this moment to farm for her

[glass nacelle]

Not get her and retired again

[supple rampart]

If only I knew she was coming i would’ve saved my pity and skipped the new Ely

[main goblet]

hle works for her
opposite is true

she got a passive for hle

[supple rampart]

Oh nice

Is her BiS hle and the p2 Kiana?

[main goblet]

depends

mainly xdc (mei) + fdd + fws (mainly)/hle/flex

if youre missing any slot then use a symbiosis unit in there

[rain isle]

Does Mei have ??? tag? Idr

[main goblet]

yeah but it doesn't look like a ring onr

it looks like paws' one

[rain isle]

Oooh interesting

[abstract night]

Is the skill between mei and fws a dmg increase for fws or like more support increase

[main goblet]

one moment lemme confirm

[rain isle]

I'm guessing that the 8.8 valk is going to synergise with Mei then

[abstract night]

I want a pt2 valk

[rain isle]

Or the 8.9 one at the latest, if devs feel like being gremlins a bit lol

[abstract night]

So.. hopefully the skill is for one

And not just another pt1 valk saying
"Hi lol"

[main goblet]

it works for both mei leader and fws leader

[abstract night]

Ohh nice..i guess?

[main goblet]

it gives breach if you don't have it in the team or dmg%

mei and elysia also got some same condition but no breach

then well have to see the interaction with the ??? skill

[main goblet]

the valk will be silent and will become playable

[slate elm]

we're prob past the point of bringing back any non astral ring teams lol

[main goblet]

i think breath means "i want a new playable part 2 cast"

[abstract night]

Yeah-

[slate elm]

oh

[abstract night]

I understand a pt1 valk like every now and then but like

[slate elm]

i mean it still has to be hi3 in a sense lol

but overall mechanically it's all arbitrary to me

[rain isle]

I'd like more p2 cast too

But I'm also a bit selfish and want p2 Seeles lol

[slate elm]

i've seen plenty of people who are both sides of the fence at this point

yeah there you go lol

[main goblet]

im still coping for sera valk 🚶

[slate elm]

with enough time we'll get both sides

[rain isle]

Ay

As long as p2 gets more love I'll be happy

[slate elm]

it's volatile to me because even if they bring back a character i want, or introduce a new one i want, it all boils down to how well they can be used

but that's just me being more meta than not really

[main goblet]

ig at least im happy that helia is meta
fdd being a solid slot in many teams is nice
i still like valks like fws sooo

[slate elm]

fdd is a weird case to me where as well used as she is, i wish she was more interesting to play to more major differences in outcome lol

[glass nacelle]

Time to bald a jump a jump a jump

[slate elm]

you mean a jump a jump a evade a evade a

[glass nacelle]

[slate elm]

tbh i've already been doing a few a jump a's here and there but the difference from doing so isn't too big which is why i worded my initial statement the way i did

[copper shale]

not always worth anyways

[main goblet]

i still find it cheesy to have someone only show up for a bit and be playable but you can have someone that showed up more than once and isn't playable or get delayed ig

atp im neutral but i still feel iffy about valks like ely that are obviously bait even if she got her own event
but thats more on me

[slate elm]

if we really want to be technical FDD has alot of variations and weird things to consider doing

[copper shale]

only worth if it skips an enhanced wa

[slate elm]

but she's no thelema

[main goblet]

is there any more fdd techs aside from breach techs and the jump atk thingy

good to know she got some things to modify her otherwise braindead rot

[slate elm]

outburst breath management
timing for the last basic
WA spam and cancels

[abstract night]

[slate elm]

it's alot on paper

[main goblet]

whats the last 2

[slate elm]

you need the last basic to hit for enhanced WA

[main goblet]

oh yeah

[slate elm]

so in downtime like start of abyss or transition you can prime that

or in the case of outburst, skip some breath levels so you have enough time to prime an enhanced WA to use after ending outburst

WA spam is exactly what it sounds like. It's just a very spammable attack kinda used to farm sp/ari or aoe esp in transition like litost

[main goblet]

what about fdd qte/4 basics > enh weap > 4 basics > ult > enh weap
i saw it on HoI refs

[slate elm]

as fast ast the WA attack is, you can cancel it midway

so micromanaging damage can implement it

[main goblet]

yeah i don't have the fps for this...

[slate elm]

i think that's more because we're just trying to lessen slowing down HoI so we can get to the buff attack sooner

the idea is you can just hold on to enhanced WAs or Ults for later

[main goblet]

ic

[slate elm]

let me be clear i'm no expert on this btw

[copper shale]

those aren't really techs, its just part of rot so u dont overkill/ ways to fit dmg

[slate elm]

if not lessen slowing down, then maybe it's just a more consistent set up for what was known at the time. ofc understanding of hoi is greater now with positional manipulation (idk the details though)

[slate elm]

i don't think i ever said any of these are only pure techs

[copper shale]

wasnt the person just asking for techs

[slate elm]

when i was yapping any of this it was more of my own thing. I only elaborated because stea asked me to explain it further

[slate elm]

but this is where i started from. Just a branch off from FDD being mentioned