🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[short knoll]

her gameplay kinda remind me of umbral rose

[abstract night]

NOOOOOO PARALYZE

[muted mauve]

I'm wondering if the phantoms refresh on SO activation.
If so you can do 4 phantom attacks in one rotation.

[short knoll]

so she onle has 2 tag?

[muted mauve]

only 2 announced.

[abstract night]

@fervent hinge im doomed..she has paralyze..

Ai chan dont snicker at me

[short knoll]

almost 0 chance for GoI support then, should be in the spotlight if that's the case

[abstract night]

I should probably skip rita

But shes lightning so i cant

[short knoll]

wait, she can do both core pierce and instant kill

[velvet dune]

Yaaay ritaaa

[velvet dune]

Core dmg?

[short knoll]

yes

[velvet dune]

Niceee

[short knoll]

add dudu support, 2 core pierce

[smoky lintel]

pls no

[abstract night]

Please dont

[smoky lintel]

let all her bosses be lightning weather

[short knoll]

cope

[velvet dune]

Praying

I mean Dudu has physical husk which is lightning down so one less to worry about

[short knoll]

wouldn't worry about dudu dps at all tbh

maybe 1 or 2 boss at best

[abstract night]

HoO can surley cope

Right?

[short knoll]

imagine

[abstract night]

Ary

[velvet dune]

Loool

I mean at least hoo can use Teri

[smoky lintel]

you want miss eternal on img enemies anyway

[abstract night]

Not well

[abstract night]

Yeah.

[velvet dune]

Who ?

[abstract night]

Eden

Gd

[velvet dune]

Ohhh

[short knoll]

less core dmg on top of less dmg, yikes

[abstract night]

However

Uh

Good Ultimate visuals

[short knoll]

umbral rose v2

[velvet dune]

Maybe Rita can get decent Scores on deliverance Kevin ?

Since i dont own dudu

[muted mauve]

[velvet dune]

No way

[short knoll]

rigged

[desert lily]

Dudu won

[smoky lintel]

on phys weather no way

[velvet dune]

I mean better than Trio ?

[desert lily]

I'm still sad she doesn't have Symbiosis

[velvet dune]

But i guess Everybody and their Mom has Dudu in Nirvana

[smoky lintel]

we'll have to see -50% is a good chunk lmao

[muted mauve]

I just saw Rita's counter and ultimate do 0 damage.

[velvet dune]

Is Kevin also physical lightning down?

[desert lily]

What

[smoky lintel]

yes

like 90% of dudu bosses

actually does she even have an img weather boss

idts

[vale granite]

idts either

[velvet dune]

Bruh

Wait

[smoky lintel]

time for rita to only have lightning weathers

[velvet dune]

Dudus dmg to the core counts as physical or HP loss?

HP loss right since Teri Astral op buffs HP loss dmg

[smoky lintel]

i think it's hp loss but it's calculated from the dmg you deal to the shell or smth

i would have to dig up her skills again

[glass nacelle]

New wod feature trust

[desert lily]

Wtf is that

[short knoll]

the shadow attack with her and not just 1 hit?

[glass nacelle]

It's rondo state

Similar to SO

[smoky lintel]

that's what i've found

[desert lily]

[feral epoch]

does new rita doesn't use her gun in combat

[short knoll]

actually what is that bar beside her ring? extra storage for energy?

[vale granite]

Not just 1 hit is alr taken by Lantern
Rita's portaits are there probably cuz it's non-HSS supps

[velvet dune]

So the dmg to the core is all that Matters so Dudu can Support Rita and Rita can Support dudu

If her dmg is also counted as HP loss to the core

[smoky lintel]

core dmg is still nerfed though

cuz it's calculated of the dmg she deals to the shell

[velvet dune]

Ugh

Cant escape the not having Dudu loss

[umbral spoke]

evolved rondo no way

[velvet dune]

As long as i can use my ss1+3 thelema for Rita

[umbral spoke]

i mean why wouldn't she be good as a support

with that broken ass weapon

[muted mauve]

Overflow. Gives stat boosts and at 10 (50%) gives pseudo-SO state (Rita Phantoms=.

[velvet dune]

Bc its prob Ely (with her huge lightning buffs) and breach from Sena or Vita

Unless that makes up for the breach

[umbral spoke]

i was about to type ice down

but yeah

[velvet dune]

I dont think ice down

Thats reserved for fire up weathers

[umbral spoke]

yeah

well andrius

isn't he ice immune?

[velvet dune]

Yes

But that one is Vita boss

Also i mean its from Genshin

[short knoll]

feel like that overflow system will be the new feature for all future valk

[velvet dune]

Same

[umbral spoke]

yeah genshin boss is ameno and ice immune

[velvet dune]

Paws has something like it too

[umbral spoke]

i wonder how he'd interact with Wendy

[short knoll]

new AO probably will have something to do with overflow

[velvet dune]

Im so glad i got SS Sera now

[umbral spoke]

either way, any signs that sera might be a need?

[velvet dune]

Obv

More starting ar, more dmg Bonus

[umbral spoke]

okay i might cave today...

[velvet dune]

No dont

Youd need SS Sera for elemental wheel valks

S Sera doesn't do ass for them (not even starting ar)

[umbral spoke]

so 120 pulls or bust

got it

[velvet dune]

Yeah

Not Worth it anymore

[umbral spoke]

I'll think it over

i mean when in doubt i have 4* kiaelf

[short knoll]

wait for next gen AO

[umbral spoke]

yes I'm slower for 2nd SO charge, but at least I have something

[velvet dune]

I mean If you have Songque Astral op

[umbral spoke]

i do not

[velvet dune]

I doubt next gen Astral op will Support wheel

Wheel already has a good Astral op

[umbral spoke]

• 4* Kiaelf
• 2* PB
• SS Chenxue
• S Teri

[short knoll]

i mean they seem to stop adding more ring, so new AO will circle back to WS WoD

[abstract night]

Wasnt hoh a crap WoD support? Outside of like lantern and tank

[velvet dune]

Thats only for now

[umbral spoke]

she felt pretty average

[desert lily]

Actually I could still use Chenxue though only through HLE for Rita

[velvet dune]

They already released 5/12 Rings they cant drop them all in 3 years

[velvet dune]

Not hoh , hle lol

[short knoll]

with the new system for WoD, feel like they will circle back to old ring and add something new

[umbral spoke]

World Star could be more likely

[velvet dune]

World Star got enough !!!

[abstract night]

I hope not, whats a new aop gonna give
+40% edt and 30% pdt
+60ari for WoD
+50 for ws?

[umbral spoke]

Horb stonks

[abstract night]

Sera can support ws

[umbral spoke]

Sera barely does something

[velvet dune]

Sera does enough for Horb

[abstract night]

I- wow

[velvet dune]

Lets leave Horb in the past after this Patch

[umbral spoke]

Hoyo won't leave her in the past

[abstract night]

22 ari regen for ws
18% cdmg

[velvet dune]

They will once she gets a new battlesuit

[desert lily]

Thought HoHe was garbage as support for WoD and LoA except when it came to tank?

[velvet dune]

Exactly what i said?

Ely = hle

Im not even considering hohe as a General Support bc shes too niche

[desert lily]

Oh right HLE weird ass specific buffs

[velvet dune]

Yes

[desert lily]

[abstract night]

I hope rita isn't wtv hle buffs

[desert lily]

Would think maybe ES, HLE, Sena/Vita for BiS?
Or maybe different supports

[abstract night]

Eternally Orderly Spy
Should be ritas name

[velvet dune]

She is tho?

[short knoll]

just like how old elf powercreep each other

[velvet dune]

Hle buffs lightning dmg

[abstract night]

:(

[desert lily]

Specifically WoD melee lightning

[abstract night]

Is rita ranged?

[velvet dune]

And Rita doesn't look ranged but whatever

[abstract night]

Awman

[desert lily]

Besides the gun, she probably melee like PAWS

[velvet dune]

I mean all her dmg could Count as Paralyze

But i doubt it

[abstract night]

..

[desert lily]

We'll have to see

And I almost forgor that I could technically still use Chenxue in ES DPS

[velvet dune]

Es ?

[desert lily]

Elegant Spy

[velvet dune]

Ohh is that her name?

[desert lily]

Though not her official

What I'm calling her for right now

Since it's rtl

[abstract night]

I want ritas abreeviation to be EoS

Now for the copium inhaling of what goes in the shops

I hope sena stamps in er or HoTr stamps
Aponia in wt so i can get sss....(rather the

Dkey)
And oh vill v in wt duh...griseo gear in foundry ...yeah thats all i got

[desert lily]

[abstract night]

Copious hopius

Inahle copium

[umbral spoke]

that would be a first though

and para is more a crowd control in the game anyway

rather than something that deals damage

[desert lily]

Para is like Stun and Freeze

[umbral spoke]

yes

[abstract night]

Paralyze-
Every second an enemy is paralyzed, deal 25% lightning dmg per second

[desert lily]

So if they did do GoI Phys, would think that one could have stun

[abstract night]

Yeah.

[umbral spoke]

eh

[abstract night]

Bricks time is over.

[craggy sentinel]

oh loa

[umbral spoke]

i mean it would follow what they've done with bleed, ignite and paralyze already

[craggy sentinel]

dudu new bis in img weathers real

[abstract night]

Nty

[fervent hinge]

L

[obsidian berry]

Ok im late what happened

[clear vigil]

[obsidian berry]

[umbral spoke]

but tbf, reign solaris is supposed to do the stunning

[desert lily]

Rita can support LoA

[craggy sentinel]

i still kinda want syn2 horb

[umbral spoke]

i do not

[shrewd socket]

well she is stunning

[abstract night]

U pulling rita?

[obsidian berry]

And??? Wod and loa only?

[shrewd socket]

at losing time in shift

[craggy sentinel]

hmghe

[abstract night]

Not the same

[desert lily]

Yep

Only those two

[obsidian berry]

[abstract night]

Songque all over again

[craggy sentinel]

best bait before cny fr

[desert lily]

No symbiosis
No ??? Tag

[obsidian berry]

Truely classic shitty wod valk

[desert lily]

God damn it Hoyo

[craggy sentinel]

ig cny is loa?

[abstract night]

EoS soon /fr

[umbral spoke]

name another lightning WoD

[abstract night]

Ws!

[craggy sentinel]

what the fuck breath

[umbral spoke]

vita doesn't count

[desert lily]

There is none

[shrewd socket]

exactly

[umbral spoke]

it's a niche filler

[abstract night]

W-what

[umbral spoke]

so make wiht that what you will

[desert lily]

Better fucking be GoI

[abstract night]

World star is fun

[obsidian berry]

I can name u 3 useless piece of garbage wod dps

[craggy sentinel]

pretty baity for players bc of this patch and cny right after 8.6 tho

[desert lily]

Thelema is not terrible

[abstract night]

Rita Lantern Songque

[shrewd socket]

only Lantern and HoHE, and the latter doesn't count

[abstract night]

?

[desert lily]

JDS is in LoA

[craggy sentinel]

so rita cant support hle, them newbies gonna be suffering for like another 9 weeks on ice/sd weathers kek

[shrewd socket]

newbies do Rita HLE VBm instead

[craggy sentinel]

eww

[desert lily]

I can use Chenxue with Rita if I'm using HLE support

[craggy sentinel]

whats rita gonna use anyways

for aops

[desert lily]

Sera

[craggy sentinel]

o thought song would kinda win over her

[desert lily]

SS Sera to be more specific

[craggy sentinel]

too lazy 4* kia elf go

[shrewd socket]

SSS DS*

[desert lily]

I found a way to throw Chenxue into most of my teams

[shrewd socket]

don't you need 2 with Symbiosis?

[desert lily]

Do you?

[craggy sentinel]

sss ds? hgmeh

i mean if its a typeless enemy sure

[shrewd socket]

SS

[craggy sentinel]

wait i meant ds lmao

[desert lily]

Ches you're talking about DS

[craggy sentinel]

yeah fixed it

i mean sss ds is just ss ds

you just deal more dmg if the boss is typeless

[abstract night]

SS songque 20 ari/10/0 and 30% edt
SS Sera 28 ari and more dmg

[desert lily]

Not much of an upgrade

[obsidian berry]

🚮

[craggy sentinel]

yeah

[short knoll]

maybe CNY will have 1 dkey for LoA and 1 GoI/WS

[craggy sentinel]

ig it depends on the boss between ds and 4* kia

[desert lily]

Not like SS was either

[obsidian berry]

Look what we found
Another loa support

[craggy sentinel]

ok time for me to mega cope

[short knoll]

we got dkey for RoO WS WoD, time for LoA

[craggy sentinel]

cny main valk will be loa trust

and uh luna dkey goi

easy win

[desert lily]

I want CNY to be GoI

[craggy sentinel]

best way to get me to spend 200k xtals

[craggy sentinel]

shuddup newbie

[desert lily]

No

[glass nacelle]

Cheswhel

[craggy sentinel]

[craggy sentinel]

me best f2p

ok fine switch it around, cny goi and dkey loa

[desert lily]

Seewe CNY Phys GoI

[craggy sentinel]

no more p1

gimme someone from p2

ds battlesuit?!!??!

[short knoll]

maybe no more p1 dkey, time for p2 dkey, could be thel LoA

[shrewd socket]

Rita is in p2

[desert lily]

I wish

[craggy sentinel]

im talking about a part 2 character, not battlesuit

[desert lily]

[shrewd socket]

why would they change they AR

[short knoll]

why not

[shrewd socket]

make new Thel atp

[craggy sentinel]

sure i'll take thel loa

make her even more insane with the tf

[glass nacelle]

Time to augment comebacks

[craggy sentinel]

crazi

[short knoll]

time for new A rank

[craggy sentinel]

sp valks comeback for reel

[obsidian berry]

🚮

[short knoll]

1 more A rank RoO would be great

[obsidian berry]

Loa slop

[craggy sentinel]

should i help the beginners in begin help lmaop

they're just newbies helping each other

pretty fun to watch them

[obsidian berry]

Just die

[glass nacelle]

Loa bad

[short knoll]

go help them smh

[craggy sentinel]

smh

hsien you go

[glass nacelle]

Worst ar tbf

[craggy sentinel]

either me hsien or riley

[craggy sentinel]

best ar is ches ring

[short knoll]

i have no idea what they are talking about tho

[desert lily]

Make a new A rank for WoD, LoA, and GoI

[abstract night]

Lets count!

WS: Sena Vbs Vbm Lantern Thelema Teri Vita HoFi Sparkle Badum HLE HoRb
12 valks! (Or 8)

WoD: Sena Lantern Thelema Songque Teri Vita Dudu HoH HLE Rita
10 valks! (Or 5)

LoA: Songque Vita Sparkle Dudu Badum HoH PS Helia² Coralie²
9 valks! (Or 6)

GoI:
Dudu Badum HoH PS Helia² Coralie² HLE HoRb
8 valks! (Or 6)

[craggy sentinel]

thats not bad

[abstract night]

We need more ws support

[desert lily]

WS has the most

[abstract night]

So?

We need more

[desert lily]

No

[craggy sentinel]

tbf the current ws supports are already pretty krazi for them

loa is getting old with the badum spam

[obsidian berry]

How many ws we have?

[desert lily]

PS and Badum spam

[fervent hinge]

WS has such good and quick supports and still sucks fucking ass

Says a lot tbh

[craggy sentinel]

literally

[obsidian berry]

Sena + 2 quantass + dk

[desert lily]

4

[obsidian berry]

Truely ass AR

[desert lily]

It's mostly QUA gaming

[craggy sentinel]

a weather that requires loa? just ps badum it!

[fervent hinge]

A playstyle that forces you to just do basics is just gonna eat time

[abstract night]

We need atf on ws trigger

[craggy sentinel]

wod is just dead (for now bc rita isnt out)

goi hard shill bc newest ring

[obsidian berry]

Ws wod 🚮

[craggy sentinel]

inb4 she's lamp level of good

[obsidian berry]

Hoyo is loa glazer

[fervent hinge]

Thelema is a great example of why WoD could be fucking amazing

[abstract night]

Songque ...

[desert lily]

Thelema carries WoD

[fervent hinge]

No support needed on field, frequent sus ani, timestop on ult

[craggy sentinel]

they gave us an absolute gem then just threw buckets of shits after that

[abstract night]

Lantern could of been sm better

[desert lily]

She's LoA

[fervent hinge]

Thelema was fucking crazy

[glass nacelle]

Ws > goi > roo = loa
Wod is just p1 burst

[fervent hinge]

Then they gave us lantern

Lmao

[abstract night]

WoD.

[craggy sentinel]

literally how did we go from thel to lantern

[abstract night]

Lantern is so clunky tbh

Why is the WA cd so fricken long

[craggy sentinel]

because fuck you

[abstract night]

And the bar

[obsidian berry]

The wod hype was off the roof when thel came out
And then we have poortern and feetque

[abstract night]

Takes 20 years to fill

[craggy sentinel]

literally all of the guns are shit aside from shotgun and you dont even use it normally

[desert lily]

They knew what they were doing with JDS

[abstract night]

Pepwepwpepwpewpepw is too little dmg
Uh thats all i remember

[abstract night]

I remember u complaining about lantern

"Whys the weapon cd this long"

[craggy sentinel]

jds without bugs is honestly just lamp but phys

[desert lily]

[abstract night]

Pt1 lantern: "its still long.."

[craggy sentinel]

her only saving grace is loa lmao

[naive briar]

Lantern gameplay was uncomfy

[glass nacelle]

Thelema and lantern are best p2 gameplay tbh

[desert lily]

[glass nacelle]

[obsidian berry]

False, lamp has higher dmg

[abstract night]

Lantern er gameplay.

[craggy sentinel]

insane

[naive briar]

Thelema was queen

[craggy sentinel]

current p2 valks are so brein ded tho

[glass nacelle]

At least paws has some techs

[craggy sentinel]

surely rita revives with similar thel gameplay

[glass nacelle]

[craggy sentinel]

surely

[umbral spoke]

paws was peak design

[craggy sentinel]

they kinda cooked with paws

[umbral spoke]

they did art with the sp regen

[obsidian berry]

Paws is cool af

[craggy sentinel]

and then fdd is just wa ult

[glass nacelle]

And elybad

[umbral spoke]

ely is respectably fine

but i'm also sadge over fdd being less complex

[craggy sentinel]

way too simple for fdd

[obsidian berry]

Just have sd break and gather to cover the stupid design

[craggy sentinel]

i literally only know of the breath skip tech and idk if its even considered a tech

[desert lily]

I miss fast ult on PS

[mild owl]

honestly like

fdd isnt complicated but

[craggy sentinel]

issok, new dkeys with inbuilt fast ult

[umbral spoke]

because you're playing with the move timings in unintended ways

[craggy sentinel]

song dkey with fishskip

[desert lily]

[glass nacelle]

quite a few myraid players i know are very upset about ely gameplay

[mild owl]

most of cooking in abyss is just dmg control which isn't any different than other valks with her

[umbral spoke]

how so

[craggy sentinel]

ig too slow?

[mild owl]

im upset too (missed a ba4 cancel)

[craggy sentinel]

she's a very classic ely with her slow gameplay tbf

[desert lily]

[orchid dome]

Is there any video on her ani cancels on yt?

[mild owl]

no clue

[orchid dome]

I have her but no weapon yet so she s benched rn

Until i have the weapon

[craggy sentinel]

its just timing the 4th ba and wa

[orchid dome]

4th cancel with buffering wa?

[craggy sentinel]

yeah

[orchid dome]

A ez

[craggy sentinel]

you skip the 4th ba animation basically

[orchid dome]

Merry chesmas to you too

[craggy sentinel]

thenk you

[umbral spoke]

just non-SO or also in SO

[orchid dome]

I think it works both

[craggy sentinel]

dunno if it works with so ult

[glass nacelle]

Idk if it's useful
https://youtu.be/T1ieng9TQq8?si=gt8QpFiVCmtDT0WD

[craggy sentinel]

since wa in so is always enhanced no?

[orchid dome]

Thank you Rita pfp

[craggy sentinel]

oh it also works with just holding ult

[orchid dome]

So ba cancel by ult?

Nice

[umbral spoke]

this is important

tl:dr trick kinda wastes damage with enhanced 4th ba

because it just makes it a normal 4th ba

it can still be better in this case but not always

[glass nacelle]

as usual

Skip = lost dmg

[umbral spoke]

situationial yeah

[ember locust]

Wait wha... Rita's trailer

Susannah in there but Dudu keeps her child like appearance ?

🤨

[desert lily]

Even though it's an Avatar

[ember locust]

Also adios Eden and Mei

💀

[ember locust]

Even though it's an avatar and seems to be in reality ? Weiird

What did Vita cook

[desert lily]

Yeah

[willow pumice]

coralie can stay in bfd form in real life so dudu can too

[desert lily]

[ember locust]

What the heck did Vita cook for real

[desert lily]

Helia also can bring the armor out in reality too

[obsidian berry]

Bita good

[ember locust]

Also Rita having LoA tag

[desert lily]

[ember locust]

Def putting her with Dudu

[desert lily]

I wish she had at least the Symbiosis tag but I guess I can cope with HLE support for Chenxue to be used

[obsidian berry]

wod is 2 tag andy

[ember locust]

I mean yeah HLE is good enough as a support for WoD and GoI

THOUGH

There wasn't any need for more LoA shill

Fr

[desert lily]

We have a lot of LoA supports already

[ember locust]

WS needed this more than anything else

[ember locust]

Literally my point

We already have a lot of LoA support

[obsidian berry]

2026 new ??? tag trust

[desert lily]

Also WS actually has the most supports kek

[ember locust]

Where is WS shill kek

[desert lily]

HoRb

[ember locust]

We don't have any viable DPS in WS except HoRb and Sena (when her weathers comes in)

[obsidian berry]

https://tenor.com/view/seele-veliona-seele-vollerei-veliona-vollerei-honkai-gif-24195904

[desert lily]

True

[ember locust]

Gone in a few weeks

[desert lily]

Dkeys don't last long yeah

[muted mauve]

It's a movie and Dev video PV. Don't think to hard about canon.

[desert lily]

Alright

[ember locust]

True

Fair point

[obsidian berry]

except kiana since she supports bita

[desert lily]

Their dps shill starts to become rare though

[ember locust]

For LoA ? Yeah but WS shill doesn't even exist anymore

[desert lily]

Fair

[obsidian berry]

that just the way it is

[desert lily]

Not like there is a DKey for LoA

[obsidian berry]

but bita still 2nd in support most apperance

[ember locust]

I'm not couting the ass DPS that is Sparkle

[desert lily]

Lol

Teridead

[ember locust]

Trash outside of Qua Duo

[desert lily]

Still wondering on who to even use on Fire Tona

[ember locust]

Breath coming to defend the "No, QUA is great" argument when it's fraud

https://tenor.com/view/talking-to-the-wall-gif-25370159

[desert lily]

Should I use FDD dps?

[ember locust]

You can try I guess

[desert lily]

Don't know if I want to try LoA with Badum

[ember locust]

Either you bruteforce with her, Kiana or Bita so anyway....

[desert lily]

No bita

[ember locust]

Damn

[desert lily]

I tried Carnival, she didn't arrive

[ember locust]

Welp FDD, Badum, The Helia is your way to go

[desert lily]

PAWS being in the team no matter which one I choose?

[ember locust]

Literally the best support for FDD

[desert lily]

True

Vita being second

[ember locust]

Yes

If you attempt Kiana DPS, you can still try FDD Helia or Sushi

[desert lily]

Think PS has better buffs than PAWS

[ember locust]

Most definitely

[short knoll]

[desert lily]

Back

[obsidian berry]

Me wifey

[short knoll]

full view like that is very rare

[desert lily]

Very

[main goblet]

its giving the same vibe as vbs skin

[prisma tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-impact3-rita-rossweisse-spina-astera-gif-24443265

[gleaming imp]

Mother is mothering, like the way we all pulled and or waited for her ascension to pull

[desert lily]

[prisma tartan]

adv man strike again

[steep axle]

noway is rita gameplay out

[cinder cloak]

My savings are in danger

[rain spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/enhypen-jungwon-stantwt-twt-stan-twitter-gif-4673509852165295528

[noble cobalt]

no unknown AR tag on new rita

that means there's minimum 27 weeks until we get a new AR

[short knoll]

wont be surprised if no more new ring, at least in a year or 2

[noble cobalt]

Well if we count the remainder of 8.5, 8.6, and assume that hoyo will always spend 2 patches releasing 2 supports for every new astral ring

there wont be a new ring until at least July

[short knoll]

tho we dont really know about ???tag yet, wait till we see her tag list

[noble cobalt]

Marisa said she only has WoD and LoA

[short knoll]

they announced 2 tag, doesnt mean she can't have more

[glass nacelle]

I think instead of making new ar they could make new mech for old ar

[short knoll]

need to see the real tag list first

[noble cobalt]

Well if she has no unknown tag that means no new AR until at least July, which idk if that's an issue but it feels weird to say

[glass nacelle]

they will mention ? tag if she has it

[short knoll]

do they? i remember they didnt say that on some valk

[glass nacelle]

The lastest valks are sushang and kiana

[muted mauve]

I'm curious how they'll handle New Year patch AOp.

Maybe Physical WS + Elemental WoD since it's lacking.

[glass nacelle]

Just both ws and wod

[muted mauve]

The point was to leave old valks to Que and Sera

[short knoll]

https://www.miyoushe.com/bh3/article/58640417
no mention of ??? tag on sparkle

[glass nacelle]

[cinder cloak]

[ember locust]

Could be it or they make something general DMG wise, like they did for Chenxue who buffs both RoO and GoI

But this time AOP for both WoD and WS

Which would quite literally powercreep Songque and Serapeum btw

[gleaming imp]

Please do since I skipped those two and only have ss teriteri and ss chenxue

[atomic coral]

you could just use kia elf and ds

[gleaming imp]

But Aops compared to using kiaelf and ds

[atomic coral]

it's rl, you can t1 without them

[gleaming imp]

If hoh and thelema maybe but other valks umm idk

[atomic coral]

did you ever try without them or do you just use aops as your baseline?

[gleaming imp]

I did do kiaelf on senawho on her shill I think

For other valks I haven't since aop

Like the ones I use with teriteri and chenxue

[atomic coral]

i mean you could use those aops in nirvana like intended

ds is good enough in rl

[gleaming imp]

Nirv

For top 3 it depends

Like bracket, Valk, popularity of said Valk,

[atomic coral]

not really, my ds scores are always either t1 or top 3

[gleaming imp]

Usually my brackets in rl usually have chenxue

Or like a aop

[atomic coral]

mine does too

doesn't mean they use them properly

[mild owl]

good enough in rl doesnt mean that other people dont have better setups

it just means u gap them anyway

i beat a ss vita by 34 points

[gleaming imp]

I haven't seen a ds in top 3 in my bracket since like I can't recall

[atomic coral]

because people see shiny thing in the aop banner and they pull thinking that the aop works in every team

[mild owl]

be the ds in top 3 then

ds t50d vill-v surely u can beat rl players with it

[gleaming imp]

So far I only use DS on WoD teams

Somewhat

My DS in WoD got replaced by ss chenxue

For hoh specifically

For thelema it's still ds

[mild owl]

u sure 1/3 chenxue isnt better for ele?

[gleaming imp]

2/3 for Ely since it's Ely thelema vita

1/3 if thelema senawho vita and in that case ds better

But yes ss chenxue is better for Ely at 2/3 than ss ds

[cinder cloak]

[gleaming imp]

Since sus2 looked the same in Rita trailer as she did in part 1.5 does this mean no p2 Susannah suit?

Are we free from a future bleed focused suit for a while

[atomic coral]

what if the luna dkey copium actually comes true

[gleaming imp]

But that's not f2p/new player friendly we f2ps/new players don't have a way to get LV

Are they expecting us f2p/new players to get lucky and win the raffle on those BP tickets?

[atomic coral]

there's no f2p way to get horb either right now

[gleaming imp]

Surely a horb supply will be announced soon

[atomic coral]

also you're just saying that because you had to skip luna adv

[gleaming imp]

I had to think about the future

A p1 adv without gear which would the case for LV is too expensive for a f2p like me

My other p1 advs I had gear already or had 3/4 or at least had weapon

[atomic coral]

either way i feel like either luna or fov could get a dkey if we're actually done with herrschers

[gleaming imp]

If they do lv or fov dk they should give out a free copy for the f2ps/new players to make it accessible

I skipped both

I'll admit I only pulled on hofin adv because I got lucky when 7.0 I think it was did half off multi for gear for valks on rotation and I did it on hofin and got weapon luckily which made me go for hofin adv

[desert lily]

She probably not gonna get one

[cinder cloak]

Kira will get a dkey... trust

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-impact-3rd-honkai-impact-honkai-shigure-kira-kira-gif-11826005025769462229

[slate elm]

i want a new battlesuit for her instead

[cinder cloak]

Me too

[ember locust]

She defs needs one with more story dev too

[desert lily]

They could find a way to give Kira a new one

[nova osprey]

Yea they could do a random event featuring kira and suddenly theres a new kira suit

[desert lily]

[slate elm]

i mean the difficult aspect is justifying her return over a more popular character or a new one lol.

[desert lily]

True

[obsidian berry]

Hoyo: Aop? I have a great idea... how about another one that can decently pair with roo but not for roo

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-simpson-barny-gumble-bar-principal-skinner-gif-16484127

[short knoll]

new AO should powercreep someone so they can put old one in spending

[desert lily]

Likely Fraudque

[obsidian berry]

Aop with ??? tag that is useless till 2027

[desert lily]

They wouldn't release that

[obsidian berry]

New aop for roo or just rerun the 4 we have

[desert lily]

They all already reran this patch
Chenxue getting two reruns

[obsidian berry]

Downfall of aop

Ok feetque u are the first to leave

[desert lily]

Would love a WS Aop that could help my HoRb

[obsidian berry]

Lets just dont cook too hard

[desert lily]

[abstract night]

Seras a ws aop in a way :(

[desert lily]

She's mainly delegated to WoD

[abstract night]

I suppose 😔

[final locust]

rita imaginary lightning wod loa support before CNY omg they set her up 😭

[gleaming imp]

And we won because of it, thanks to her having loa I can use her with teriteri aop

So I can run Rita and vita for 2/3

[final locust]

looks skippable

supports dead ring and 1 decent ring but can she beat badum/FDD/PS for LoA?? prolly not but we'll see

[gleaming imp]

It all depends on 8.7 valk really

[final locust]

then a lightning dps like we already got one of those

[gleaming imp]

I hope if its p2 tall Dudu she can support WoD or be LoA so the besties could be used together since I’m not pulling RS Dudu

[final locust]

probably supports RS because shes img and has core transfer

[gleaming imp]

RS Dudu not my Dudu

[final locust]

too bad]

[gleaming imp]

[final locust]

actually im happy they made rita this way

because that means i can probably skip her
surely trio is enough for img content

[obsidian berry]

And i can be the only one pull her SS

[frozen cobalt]

rita mid?

[nova osprey]

We wait more info

[feral epoch]

whale

[obsidian berry]

me no whel

me simp

[main goblet]

i have a massive copium but if rita main utility is a fast attacker (based on her animation) and paralyze applier, then i can try paws in rl, totally not gonna be affected by the lack of type advantage and whatever that wod unique mechanic she has or whatever buffs she can provide for wod and loa mhm mhm

[desert lily]

Fast attack tag that PAWS missed out on?

[main goblet]

she has the fast attack tag in my heart

[short knoll]

why skip, just get everything

[main goblet]

sponsor me then

[muted mauve]

Skins

[willow pumice]

Vita Outfit [Miss White Velvet] costs Bchips

[final locust]

OH MY GOD

[final locust]

shes so

shes so
mother

what is EN TL for the name?

[willow pumice]

Helia outfit free from Agent Rita event
Griseo outfit from Knight BP

[final locust]

isn't this the 2nd helia outfit

[gleaming imp]

Us F2P will be saving up our pink tickets for this skin

[main goblet]

can someone summarize what the outfits look like because my device is freezing from the gifs

[naive briar]

Vita: KR hoyoland tea party white lolita
Helia: free immortal blades uniform
Griseo: colour change BP

[main goblet]

ooo
ofc the very pretty outfit is paywalled

[muted mauve]

The description for Vita's outfit.
❤️ 🗡️

[naive briar]

decode pls

[desert lily]

New CE outfit? Wtf

[still condor]

its been 84 years since the last bp recolor

[desert lily]

[willow pumice]

Lygusseo

[main goblet]

only 2 gifs loaded for me but at least i can see the CE and helia outfit
at least my vbm got a skin to use even if i don't use her, yay
didn't get the Susannah outfit to let em match unfortunately

[frozen cobalt]

no

[naive briar]

Vita likes white... white is her mom's colour...

[still vine]

[solar surge]

https://tenor.com/view/vita-vi-salt-snow-salt-snow-vita-vita-salt-snow-gif-7221385300328565940

[bitter urchin]

Does this cost pink slips or costs b chips directly?

[glass nacelle]

Bchip

[bitter urchin]

Expensive…

[glass nacelle]

Free luna

[mossy escarp]

beta alive

[gleaming imp]

Free luna?

[craggy sentinel]

luna dkey ong??? /copium

[gleaming imp]

Luna dk incoming?

[glass nacelle]

[gleaming imp]

Should I invest into s2 LV by buying stamps from shop?

They gave away free hoh and she got dkey 2 patches later could we be seeing a repeat of this on 8.7?

Or 8.8 though 8.7 makes more sense since it's a big patch I think

[mossy escarp]

ew so much new img bosses

[glass nacelle]

Ew

[gleaming imp]

Trio fodder

[glass nacelle]

3 lightning 1 new weather 💀

[craggy sentinel]

rita shill ong

[glass nacelle]

[gleaming imp]

Let's go

Easy ss horb

I think we ALL will be buying horb stamps

[gleaming imp]

Omg is that the FR skin look? On the third one

[craggy sentinel]

horb in er?

[mossy escarp]

gold orbs shop

[craggy sentinel]

ohh

[glass nacelle]

ult gains 2 charges in ss

[gleaming imp]

We will be pulling on her ascension then

[craggy sentinel]

wher bp info smh

[glass nacelle]

lamp

[main goblet]

lets goo imma pre farm pwo for this

[craggy sentinel]

ew

[muted mauve]

so early

[main goblet]

???
is this like the free hoo or free hoh?

[main goblet]

whats the second part refer to..

[muted mauve]

yes

[main goblet]

ooo

[craggy sentinel]

paradise of the past, memorial arena?

[main goblet]

hmm maybe

[craggy sentinel]

wait manually select difficulty

thats er, you only manually select diff if its er

oh i understand now

[main goblet]

oh so mini qol, sure

[craggy sentinel]

it’ll auto set to the highest diff you’ve cleared on weekly reset

[muted mauve]

Ch11 name is interesting

[gleaming imp]

Do we get hotruth stamps in PWO shop now?

[mossy escarp]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1HSCMBPEnp

[craggy sentinel]

not bad, i sometimes forget to change it lmao

[glass nacelle]

wow 2 new maps

[mossy escarp]

bug3

[desert lily]

[desert lily]

Oh hey Hare then TA's gear

[glass nacelle]

look like all hss users can refresh stig buff during surplus state

[willow pumice]

amg that pic is cut off

[gleaming imp]

We won, we will manifestating a dkey for her

[desert lily]

[willow pumice]

V8.6 INFO

• FREE LUNAR VOW
• Topup event: Topup 100 usd to get up to 3 Thel stamps / 3 JD stamps and other rewards
• Paid BP: Lantern
• Free BP: Dreamweaver and her gears, Star of Eden Divine Key, Prometheus weapon and stigma
• Weapon and stigma inventory limit increased from 1200 to 2000
• ER: When you clear ER in previous week, you won't need to manually reselect difficulty this week. You can directly enter the highest difficulty when you click LITE button.
  https://www.miyoushe.com/bh3/article/70594527

[mossy escarp]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ZXCMBcEuP vita skin

[craggy sentinel]

omg topup

[gleaming imp]

I have a question for PWO stamps being added is it only HoRB? Coping for hotruth stamps

[desert lily]

I haven't seen anything for PWO

[obsidian berry]

Xys in shop when

[desert lily]

Don't know

[glass nacelle]

Not owned xys in 2025

[craggy sentinel]

imegin no xys

[obsidian berry]

Me want to have 3 to flex

[desert lily]

Oh
Guess I need to SSS one of my S ranks soon then

[obsidian berry]

Ok i want 9.6k refund on badum outfit

[glass nacelle]

[craggy sentinel]

big scythe

[desert lily]

Again

[obsidian berry]

Coop in hell

[willow pumice]

THIS IS HER POSE IN VALK MENU???

[muted mauve]

They did a really good job with the texture and cloths modeling

[desert lily]

What da hell

[mossy escarp]

smh mhy

[glass nacelle]

feature event has pvp kek

[muted mauve]

Looks like actual textile

[glass nacelle]

sd pig when

[mossy escarp]

ew

[muted mauve]

that does not spark joy

[desert lily]

What

New pig why

[willow pumice]

LMAO

[gleaming imp]

Oh thats mother

[obsidian berry]

[willow pumice]

mihoyo when they need to add a new punching bag: decorate the pig

[desert lily]

Or another Assaka

[glass nacelle]

oh ye

[desert lily]

Umbral Rose in that first stig

[gleaming imp]

I have a question is that third one meant to be FR skin?

[nova osprey]

Welp another free 620 xtals

[muted mauve]

SO EVADE FARMING IS BACK

[mossy escarp]

so bad

[nova osprey]

Good thing i already have enough pwo to ss her when patch drops

[willow pumice]

k stealing pig pic

[muted mauve]

wait.

[willow pumice]

EX ABYSS

• Lightning weather boss Moruduo (IMG PIG)
• WoD weather HoD Minion
• Lightning weather Husk Mysticism
• Lightning weather Husk Existentialism

ARENA

• Added SSS Moruduo (IMG PIG)

[desert lily]

I need to SSS one of my Seeles to get her stamps

[nova osprey]

Wod weather hod

[desert lily]

Who are the other two husks again-

[glass nacelle]

lmao

[nova osprey]

Bull and flower

[gleaming imp]

Omg is that p2 tall Dudu teaser? 8.7 dudu real?

[desert lily]

Ah

[muted mauve]

It's ultimate evasion I'm stupid.

[desert lily]

That don't mean anything Drya

[obsidian berry]

Its literally PE

[glass nacelle]

they are too lazy to write description and just put hrb dkey description in

[main goblet]

ew what is that ugly creature

[gleaming imp]

Oh

[nova osprey]

Pig v5 or smt

[main goblet]

whats with this game and its love for clocks, wolfs, tanks and pigs

[glass nacelle]

Sd pig for new sd dps unit trust

[obsidian berry]

Mech pig when

[desert lily]

And Assaka

[main goblet]

[desert lily]

Paros is a pink Assaka

[main goblet]

eh, at least ill get free lv and she can use her anni skin that's been collecting dust

[smoky lintel]

I smell LV dkey

Free LV Just Like hohe

[main goblet]

and at least ill rank my horb... that's what i want

[craggy sentinel]

my manifestation is real

[desert lily]

I don't want to pull it

[nova osprey]

Why didnt they give horb stamps this patch and insyead give it next patch

I woulda already ss

[craggy sentinel]

do i buy the horb box for ss horb next patch

[desert lily]

To make us suffer

[smoky lintel]

No

[craggy sentinel]

[vale granite]

100%

[main goblet]

whats horb's main ranks?

[vale granite]

The real question is tf are they gonna do on the next anni

[craggy sentinel]

what would lv’s ring be tho

she seems like a goi kinda girl

[nova osprey]

Nah its gonna be sena dkey trust

[vale granite]

RoO based on the RoO valk stig Bleed buffs

[craggy sentinel]

[muted mauve]

Can we get an A-rank instead

[vale granite]

(they require RoO to be active)

[craggy sentinel]

actually i dont mind another roo yeah

[obsidian berry]

https://tenor.com/view/marmota-cooking-hold-up-gif-5382607284931131048

[nova osprey]

Time to wait like 8 weeks for 8.7 info

[craggy sentinel]

ok lemme cook

[vale granite]

No, 5 more P1 S-ranks

[craggy sentinel]

cny main valk is uh loa goi roo with ???

lv dkey roo ??? ws or smt idfk

[nova osprey]

Watch no ??? Tag again

[vale granite]

Gotta have HSS for Rita

[nova osprey]

[craggy sentinel]

insane

[craggy sentinel]

oh right

[main goblet]

hoh is the only stellar key valk with ??? so idk

[craggy sentinel]

hmghe

[nova osprey]

8.7 valk is gonna be a ws with hss tag and maybe hs or symbiosis trust

[main goblet]

idk if hoyo no longer seeing the ??? bait working or do they really just wanna revisit old rings

[craggy sentinel]

honestly the ??? bait was rlly good tho

[main goblet]

yeah

[desert lily]

I want 8.7 to be GoI

[vale granite]

They could do shit like in 7.4

[main goblet]

hmm

[glass nacelle]

Beta abyss still closes

Need to wait 8m

[gleaming imp]

Omg if lv dkey is roo that means My vita will thrive with a hofin/cora1 replacement for double breach

[muted mauve]

Because of beta BP dates being skewed I'm not sure if it means 8.8 is 8 weeks or 10 weeks

[vale granite]

New AR type, but no one except the dkey can support it

[craggy sentinel]

[vale granite]

8.6 is confirmed to be 9 weeks, right

[nova osprey]

Surely 8 weeks

[gleaming imp]

Please be 10 weeks

10 weeks = more funds

[main goblet]

i want 8.7 to not suck or be boring bait unless i ended up getting rita bc her bosses suck sm without her then i want 8.7 to somehow suck (it won't) to justify my reasoning

[muted mauve]

8.6 - 9
8.7 - 8

[desert lily]

What

[vale granite]

8.7 is 8? 😭

[gleaming imp]

We won

[main goblet]

oh wow

[desert lily]

CNY being 8 weeks is crazy

[vale granite]

8.6 not being 11 is sadge

[main goblet]

lmao

it might be another error too tbh

from hoyo's side

[glass nacelle]

168 days

[gleaming imp]

I would've preferred 8.7 being 10 weeks instead

[frozen cobalt]

they must make 8.7 a cny patch

[glass nacelle]

[craggy sentinel]

cny being 8 weeks is kinda krazi

[glass nacelle]

Skem date so sleep

[gleaming imp]

Since lv getting dkey most likely does that getting stamps from shop worth it?

[muted mauve]

Kinda weird the new map but 2 area tabs for the different elevations despite being connected

[vale granite]

Pretty much

Do they stay in 8.6 btw?

[muted mauve]

why are people convinced Luna will get a DKEY

[gleaming imp]

Horb Stamps are PWO and no one said lv stamps replaced yet so I assume they stay?

[vale granite]

Because we've got Bleed buffs on RoO valks that require RoO to be active out of nowhere

[main goblet]

im more focused on horb dkey i wanna know whats the main ranks since i wanna get as much as possible

[vale granite]

• free LV right before CNY

[muted mauve]

Sena or SQ should be next in line.

[muted mauve]

And we got physical WS buffs since early part 2.
Means nothing.

[glass nacelle]

Flying fish in 1m trust

[mossy escarp]

ew

[vale granite]

I'd wait for confirmation during 8.6 in that case

No point in buying early

[vale granite]

And we got a Phys WS valk

[nova osprey]

Dam new pose

[muted mauve]

Ten years later

[main goblet]

oh reminds me of JK

[gleaming imp]

True, I'll wait only got enough for 4 atm anyways, have to pull on vita ascension to afford fifth stamp

[glass nacelle]

Ew

[vale granite]

Yeah, they could release an RoO Bleed valk a lot later, but I don't see any other good dkey candidates

[mossy escarp]

elybad

[vale granite]

Only FoV

[copper shale]

elybad

[nova osprey]

It took like a year and a half before we got it

[vale granite]

To fully kill HoTr

[craggy sentinel]

dang i dont have enough balls to buy luna stamps in bp, not even coping for dkey i just wanna ss2 her in 8.6

[glass nacelle]

Elybad in this boss tbf

[gleaming imp]

That's a easy -100 for me til I get hle from ascension

[vale granite]

(assuming Rita kills trio ofc)

[main goblet]

atp ppl will cope for hotr dkey lmao

[muted mauve]

DKs for the past so many years have been herrscher mini-reworks.
Next herrscher-like after HoRb is SQ

[nova osprey]

Surely we get sena dkey first

[vale granite]

Yes, but do you really think they take lore into account atp?

[main goblet]

since the stellar keys got no lore, i see it as milking old valks more

[muted mauve]

A-ranks make more sense.

[mossy escarp]

tf is this ball

[main goblet]

ew

[vale granite]

Why even force an IMG pig

To save costs?

Does that even actually save costs

[nova osprey]

To shill rita

Make it so no rita=-300 score

[vale granite]

No, I mean why not a proper design

[nova osprey]

[vale granite]

ig it should

[main goblet]

there's also dudu and teri who are not herrschers and got dkeys so idk
this one ill probably be bonked by info by a lore nerd so 🏃‍♂️

[vale granite]

Himeko too, but that's oldge

[main goblet]

[mossy escarp]

uhh does she deal core dmg with wod illusion

wtf

[gleaming imp]

Surely my well invested trio will retain and score well in rl and this boss isnt so Rita specific it’s no Rita = score bad

[glass nacelle]

Pishacha moment

[muted mauve]

Pig and it's obsession of messing with naming schemes.

[main goblet]

it looks like someone's accessory that dropped in a pool of acid

[craggy sentinel]

new img hc husk when

[copper shale]

holy another pig

[nova osprey]

*looks at dudu shill
I dont think so, its gonna be 900+ for rita and 700 for everyone else

[main goblet]

this img is enough to tell me ill be experiencing hell on this boss if i don't get rita

[vale granite]

I think this was obvious regardless of the valk atp

Big 2026 after all

[short knoll]

was excited for a second when i see ER change then it's just a nothing burger

[mossy escarp]

surely hoo dps is strong cope

[gleaming imp]

Surely bracket in rl won't be top 10 rita only since 8.6 will be considered bait skip patch

[vale granite]

Definitely not strong enough for Nirv

[main goblet]

its rl surely its not that bad right?? right???

[vale granite]

RL should be fine

[muted mauve]

First they broke it with Quantum.
Now they broke it with Imaginary.
Next they'll break it with Stardust.

[main goblet]

lmao

[vale granite]

New type when

[mossy escarp]

prob not if urs rl going for 535d

[vale granite]

To make affixing even more ass

[vale granite]

New weap type while at it too

[vale granite]

Yeah, CN RL is tough

[main goblet]

atp im tempted to pull a drya move and invest into an old valk to justify not pulling

[vale granite]

Gotta stay strong

[main goblet]

[nova osprey]

Btw any exchange shop news?

Is eop there now

[glass nacelle]

Eos*

[main goblet]

[nova osprey]

[vale granite]

Yeah, definitely that one

[main goblet]

yeah i should probably consider pre farming for eop as well

moreso for fun though

[gleaming imp]

Omg we will be twinning

[muted mauve]

I still don't understand hi3's current strategy.

With so many unreleased part 2 characters and nearly as much part 1 time skip designs... and yet they keep spawning random filler event characters.

[gleaming imp]

I would like a kallen or himeko or Sakura or raven or Cecilia or Tesla Einstein or vodka twin event valk

Or a Wendy even

[naive briar]

leave Wendy alone. leave us alone if there's no plan to properly treat her

[gleaming imp]

Is there a starless shill?