🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[shrewd socket]

7.6*

[noble cobalt]

ohhhh me blind

[shrewd socket]

so WoD is first on both

[desert lily]

7.6
Those three were non existent then

[ember locust]

Oh if you want it like that

We barely have Fire in WoD because Lantern is 🧱

We barely have Light in WS because Sena is 🧱

[noble cobalt]

AR Sakura can save part 2

[noble cobalt]

Sena isnt that bricked as dps...

[ember locust]

We barely have Light in WoD because Teri is 🧱

Wait no

[noble cobalt]

Teri not WoD

[ember locust]

She's WS

Lol even worse

[noble cobalt]

The entire WS is bricked except HoRbius

[ember locust]

She becoming brick in a few weeks

🧱 🧱

[noble cobalt]

lies

[ember locust]

8.6 = HoRb gone

[noble cobalt]

I'm sure they'll still run dominance in 8.6, just like how they did HoHe weathers a few more times after 8.1

[ember locust]

I still remember Luna Era

Everywhere for literally months

[abstract night]

Bro whats wrong with sci in ws

[noble cobalt]

Im surprised they didnt do Luna stellar key yet

[noble cobalt]

-Sparkle can brute force all of her bosses
-She's not used in any WoD teams
-She's barely used to support WS Unless its Sparkle sometimes

[ember locust]

Not surprised if they go by chronological order, HoRb released before Luna

[ember locust]

^^

PLUS Worst type ever, I named QUA. Niched by QUA even more niched by WS 💀💀

[noble cobalt]

Sparkle is just better because she can brute force SIMP boss and she's actually optimal support for some LoA lineup

[ember locust]

[abstract night]

So argument

• Teri can bruteforce 95% of sparkles bosses (aside from like firekosma which sucks from everyone)
  Shes not use to support ws unless its teri sparkle thelema

[noble cobalt]

Even worse, they outniched SIMP literally the patch after her debut

[ember locust]

How Breath is coping :

https://tenor.com/view/aqua-konosuba-aqua-scared-gif-9665107473877670111

[noble cobalt]

Can she? A lot of sparkle boss need more quantum collapse than Teri can do on her own

[abstract night]

Sparkle and teri both do 2 dont they?

Teris just get hit

[ember locust]

Bro Sparkle is just better than her in everything she's in.... Just give it up

Stop the cope

[noble cobalt]

• overseer Teri should have been the valk

another hit against SIMP

[abstract night]

Quantum isnt even that bad.
Ws means nothing
Its just not the latest ring

[noble cobalt]

Quantum is the weakest type rn

Even bio is stronger

[abstract night]

If u wanna get technical
Teri can support WoD, sparkle cant
Sparkle can support LoA, Teri cant

[abstract night]

Weakest?

Why not psychic

[noble cobalt]

The difference is though, Sparkle is optimal for some LoA lineup, SIMP is a last resort WoD supp if you have no other choices

[ember locust]

Bro... Even Marisa is straight up saying

"Currently, SIMP is used very rarely as both DPS and support."

"World Star Support

Not the best support for any team currently."

"WoDestiny Support

Can just ult and stay in the back like Senadina. SIMP does not offer any improvement on existing WoDestiny teams."

SHE DOESN'T COOK

Stop glazing her

[gleaming imp]

Psychic has hoh and horb going for it, only one dragging it down is lamp

[noble cobalt]

CorAlie is also still a decent RoO support

[gleaming imp]

I forgot about cora1

[ember locust]

Plus LoA, RoO and GoI are mose used than WS or WoD these days

[noble cobalt]

Yeah lamp is the only one dragging PSY down, the rest of them are stil... alright

[ember locust]

The fact she didn't replaced yet in some cases is crazy

[desert lily]

It's cause of her support SO DMG

[noble cobalt]

CorAlie more relevant than Lamp and SIMP

[ember locust]

Thanks to DKs

Or more like...

HoHe : Thanks for DPS Role and decent support in GoI

HoRb : Thanks for DPS and.... And...

Seele : "I can only DPS"

[desert lily]

HoRb was niche to begin with even coming from me

[noble cobalt]

Marisa calc has HoRb support at 100% For sparkle and sena, although I understand he isn't the end all be all

[gleaming imp]

Lampbad real

[ember locust]

I can say the same for HoHe, I'm not simping to the point I'm ignoring reality of her state

(Not like Breath)

[noble cobalt]

The stray

[ember locust]

(Fr Quantum and Teri bias)

[noble cobalt]

Although we know QUA is the weakest type, I'm torn between SD and Mech being the strongest

[gleaming imp]

Hey hoh and horb aren't in khia asylum territory

[noble cobalt]

I would say mech is the strongest cuz S Cora, Vita, and Thele are ultra universal supports but

HLE and Badum are also ultra universal support

[ember locust]

I mean SD is relatively a new type and they freaking spam MECH sooo

[abstract night]

I like marisas infographs
But uhm.
None of the ws dps's are really BiS for one another
HoRb is good for sparkle and possible teri
But sena would prefer the sd duo or hofi or vita

WoD, maybe rita, who knows

Then sparkle and teri

[gleaming imp]

I'd say SD better due to being able to be type neutral on all content of their respective types

[abstract night]

Good ws support

[ember locust]

It also has no counter except itself

[noble cobalt]

SD is kind of dragged down by JDS being a bricked dps and sort of Sena also being brick dps

[gleaming imp]

Senawho dps is only good on her shill, outside of shill her dps goes down a hill and doesn't exist

[noble cobalt]

Also I would say that SD Griseo doesnt lift or drag SD down since shes just kind of... there

[ember locust]

I mean they locked Songque behind a god damn AOP 💀

Sena is either Oba or Grandma chan

[abstract night]

Dkeys
Thats how sad it is
HoH isnt even that great of a support
HoRb is a dps and crap GoI support (in abyss) and good ws support

Lantern.

So yeah its kinda.

[ember locust]

HoHe is decent in GoI but that's it

[abstract night]

Isnt that great

[noble cobalt]

I think LV and SD griseo getting stellar key would make sense since both of them are already support dps hybrids

the only thing is theres no precedent for an A rank getting buffed by weapon

[gleaming imp]

I can see LV but not CE since she's A rank

[ember locust]

Hence the word "decent" like ok but nothing more

[ember locust]

Teri Rondo does exists

[gleaming imp]

LV dkey releases but monkey paw finger curls and she's just a bleed applier

[noble cobalt]

Hmm... maybe then

[ember locust]

Very little chance for Griseo but Teri Rondo still got a weao that is a DK

*weap

[abstract night]

Well it was always a dkey

[ember locust]

Luna has def chance if they ignore the Herrscher condition

Since there's none to do anymore

[gleaming imp]

They have done that before with VKE and BKE

[noble cobalt]

I dont think the herrscher condition is a requirement, its just a loose precedent that they can break whenever they want to

[abstract night]

They dont have to be a herrscher i mean theres bke and vke

[gleaming imp]

So there is a precedent

[ember locust]

That too

[noble cobalt]

also yeah there's no more herrschers to give SK too, unless they want to buff HoO and HoTr which I highly doubt

[ember locust]

Well ofc but except VKE, Rondo and BKE, all existing gacha DK were tied in a way or another to a Herrscher

[abstract night]

Whens ritas kit revealed?

[ember locust]

Open Beta is in like 2 weeks I think

Unless they reveal it in a week, like for Tags

[noble cobalt]

mmm true, but i still think at least FoV and LV will get a stellar key

[abstract night]

Why do they reveal so early . Sigh

[noble cobalt]

other p1 valks maybe too old to get one

Hare maybe?

Although she would overlap with HoRb

cuz dominance

[ember locust]

Too much of a niche

And overlap indeed

[noble cobalt]

Hoyo clearly is never done milking the flame chasers so either they'll get new battlesuits or theyll get stellar keys

[abstract night]

Hare is an overlap?

[ember locust]

HoF and the others are just way too old to get one

[abstract night]

Horb always had a summon

[noble cobalt]

Attacks count as summoned entity DMG; overlap with HoRb

Hare getting a stellar key would overlap her with HoRb

[ember locust]

No, like Hare getting a DK would be overlap to HoRb since both has summons and enters in Dominance weathers

[gleaming imp]

I would pull for FC ascension supplys

[abstract night]

Not really?

Two different characters

[desert lily]

Different types

[abstract night]

One has bio one has mecha

HoRb would most likely keep her stuff

[desert lily]

They'll keep their bosses still

[ember locust]

Still, same weathers buffs, unless they use Aponia

[desert lily]

Or jizo

[ember locust]

We don't use Cursed Names here 💀💀

[noble cobalt]

I think Aponia and maybe Mobius could see stellar key sometime

[desert lily]

Lol

[noble cobalt]

Vill-V's kit is too awkward for one

[desert lily]

Those two literally got replaced

[abstract night]

Uhm..so?

[ember locust]

Her kit is so WTF

[abstract night]

WoD.

[gleaming imp]

I wish aponia and vill v got starless shill only mobius and fov and hoh did

[noble cobalt]

Idk... give them a new niche to exist in

[ember locust]

You really forgot HoRb

Who got SK Starless

[gleaming imp]

Horb

[desert lily]

Then a new SK

[abstract night]

Aponia fs
No bias whatsoever

Like aponias not in wt so

[ember locust]

Bro, we got SK Dominance like 2 weeks ago

[abstract night]

Perhaps lol

[noble cobalt]

Make part 2 dps that likes to have coordinated attackers on their team, boom Aponia stellar key EZ money

[desert lily]

Still new

[abstract night]

Ws

[noble cobalt]

[abstract night]

Can trigger resos offield

:D

[ember locust]

You can't invent a new SK if there's already 2 SK for HoRb lol

[noble cobalt]

Boom Aponia niche EZ money

Hoyo is never done making money off of the FCs

[abstract night]

All u gotta do is press WA to place resos all at once, use dr valks to trigger it and have aponias smack do more dmg

[ember locust]

The fact that Mobius got Starless but not SW

Mobius is older than SW

[noble cobalt]

Even if you have the old flame chasers stellar keys that gave them exactly 1 niche time to exist in, it would still be 100x better than where they are rn

[abstract night]

Sw is sad

[desert lily]

Would like to see a new Reso weather for her but eh

[noble cobalt]

If Aponia had literally one niche in WS, it would still be way better

[abstract night]

+20 atk

[abstract night]

I could see WoD aswell

SO fills bar,
CA and press phanthoms to refill it, each increasing the dmg more and more

No clue lol

[ember locust]

I don't even know how the heck they would fit Luna in one of the ARs, like she does everything dude

[noble cobalt]

If Vill-V had shadow star Kosma, she would also be uncontested there

and then even Lamp can be relevant again

[abstract night]

WoD.

[ember locust]

It wouldn't even be her only possibility

[abstract night]

GoI nu uh

[noble cobalt]

LV could be literally any ar lel

[abstract night]

LoA ...sure? I wouldnt wanna dps with her tho

[ember locust]

WS can work, GoI can work, RoO can work

Even LoA would work 💀💀

[noble cobalt]

Although i'm inclined to believe she will be bleed RoO... looks at HoFi bleed buff

[ember locust]

🤌🤌

[noble cobalt]

[abstract night]

RoO...is literally...general

Any valk could be RoO

[noble cobalt]

Also RoO valks in recent times have a special animation in SO where they hold a button down... Luna's ult...

[ember locust]

Also don't forget that she's one of the only recent chars of P1 who can DPS and also be support

[desert lily]

All RoO have a bleed buff for RoO

[abstract night]

...horb

[noble cobalt]

one of*

[abstract night]

~~ HoTr ~~

[ember locust]

Breath can't read

[noble cobalt]

HoTr dps...

[abstract night]

And the only one that could be a dps is CE

Other one i can think of*^

[noble cobalt]

HoO, HoTr, LV, HoRb, CE all part 1 DPS/supp hybrid

[ember locust]

LV RoO would be overkill, P1 Luna Era a over again @noble cobalt

[abstract night]

HoO no

[ember locust]

[abstract night]

LV roo could be balanced

[noble cobalt]

I quit during the tail end of p1 cuz the shilling was so bad, made new account in 7.3, got sena, and i still play on it

[abstract night]

Scale her stuff to sena lvl

[ember locust]

Overkill

She literally give Light breach in both ult and her rankq

Plus stigs buffed for Bleed DPS too

[abstract night]

For lightning valks

Ahem.

[ember locust]

In RoO

[ember locust]

STILL

[noble cobalt]

LV RoO would be equal to part 2 valkyries, way above your average stellar key upgrade

[abstract night]

Sena Sci Vita Helia rita

doesnt have ws or goi or wod tag

What breach

[ember locust]

You deadass, she would buff Vita

💀🤌

[abstract night]

Coralie²

Sidegrades of one another

[noble cobalt]

If LV got a stellar key she could revive SIMP and Senawho dps

[ember locust]

Literally too

[abstract night]

I want WoD

[ember locust]

DKs always get two rings at least

[abstract night]

LV Sci Vita/Sena

[abstract night]

Hofi only supports ws
And roo but thats a given

[noble cobalt]

All p2 S rank have at least 2 rings they can support

I think HeliA is the only p2 valk who can only support 1 ring

[abstract night]

HoRb is GoI
And
Ws but thats a given

[ember locust]

Old Helia is sad

[abstract night]

I like old helia

Pewpewpewpewpew is funfunfun

[ember locust]

The moment Thelema appeared 💀💀

[noble cobalt]

HoHe has 3 rings she can support but idk if I even count LoA teams as something she can do

[ember locust]

Almost dead

[noble cobalt]

HoHe is ultra last resort for literally any LoA

[abstract night]

Coralie got booted

[abstract night]

Vita dudu

[ember locust]

Literally Ely in LoA :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcqUf-2F_68

[noble cobalt]

Coralie was actually BiS in Thelema team in 7.4

[abstract night]

For sena

Sena dps

Not thelema dps

[noble cobalt]

She was also BiS in Thelema dps, since there were literally no other options

[abstract night]

Yeah

Good for coralie

But for sena dps
Helia was BiS

[noble cobalt]

Was she

[ember locust]

BIS was Luna Eden/Helia

[noble cobalt]

I thought Sena thele cora was BiS in 7.4

[ember locust]

At the very beginning

[abstract night]

There is absolutely no way that luna eden was BiS in abyss

[mild owl]

what did helia ever do to u

so mean

[ember locust]

WAS, you can't read for real

[abstract night]

In MA sure
I remember stuff with lv edem

[noble cobalt]

[abstract night]

Wdym in the beginning

[noble cobalt]

not come home in 8.3

[abstract night]

Coralie and helia¹ were right there

[mild owl]

should have had more xtals

[velvet dune]

It was

[noble cobalt]

well when they release badum and ps ultra pro max deluxe lite support units for all of their teams

[abstract night]

Wtf

[noble cobalt]

its kinda hard to get PAWS

[velvet dune]

Why are you surprised?

Valkyrie boltstorm was never good

[noble cobalt]

Was Senawho/CorAlie/HeliA better than LV eden in 7.3

[velvet dune]

I mean she kinda was for Sena but thats by whole Sena Gimmick was Shit until teri

[noble cobalt]

[velvet dune]

Yes

[noble cobalt]

I see

[velvet dune]

I mean it depended

With Songque Astral op

Absolutely

I think the highest dmg for pt1 came with foV by almost 30 Million No?

[noble cobalt]

I think so

[abstract night]

I mean im just like
Wtf
I knew vbs was never good good
But also like how tf

[velvet dune]

And then pt 2 kicked that right Out of the batch with everyone dealing that much If not more when

[velvet dune]

Bc valkyrie boltstorm was ass

She cost too many Points

Super slow

[abstract night]

Can i see myraid top 1?

Or top 50 is more fair

[mild owl]

vbs was bis for mobs and guaymas idk what u mean

[abstract night]

I just cant believe it

That loosing SO marks >>>> having all marks

Back then

[velvet dune]

Did Sena even see that many bosses?

[mild owl]

idts

[velvet dune]

Yeah

[mild owl]

i wasnt playing

[abstract night]

And i just remember that she was reccomend with sena here. Yeah she was slow but like wow

[velvet dune]

It was like 1 bloodlust a Patch max

[velvet dune]

She was good

But felt Like Shit

But yeah until Teri she was the only one who could Trigger all of senas reso marks

[abstract night]

First 4 weeks of 7.3

Week 5 and 6 7.4

Maybe clock ?

[velvet dune]

No

[abstract night]

But fov or lv probably did better

[noble cobalt]

how come thele and lamp cant do it

[velvet dune]

That was Luna

[velvet dune]

They just couldnt Trigger all

[abstract night]

Senas missing marks

[velvet dune]

I think they could only Trigger 9

Idk

[noble cobalt]

oh

[abstract night]

Instead of 18 trigger with teri and sparkle and horb
Sena had like 12 or something

[ember locust]

VB was straight up sad, just like Lantern and Teri SIMP

Always has been

[abstract night]

Vb was always sad

Maybe at the start of the game she was fine

[velvet dune]

Yeah lantern was also Shit AS a world Star Support

[abstract night]

But vb just dies away

[noble cobalt]

being a lantern haver is painful

[velvet dune]

Not true

[abstract night]

If u mean vbs
Then shes just sena support sad everywhere else

[velvet dune]

She is still pretty

https://tenor.com/view/lantern-honkai-honkai-impact-honkai-impact-3-honkai-impact-3rd-gif-17475573171041403490

[ember locust]

Lantern f*cking died right after 7.5, even Teri SIMP died in 7.8 with Sparkle making her tomb even deeper in 7.9

[velvet dune]

Ehhh

[abstract night]

Lantern...did not die after 7.5

[mild owl]

i mean they had to make all the qua bosses fire so simp didnt take them lol

[velvet dune]

Lantern died with Vita

[noble cobalt]

Sparkle releasing right after SIMP debut and Sparkle also being a top LoA support was brutal

[abstract night]

Absolutely no way she died after 7.5

[noble cobalt]

I think in 7.6, lamp is required for JDS to have 100 crit, right?

[velvet dune]

Vita was just better at supporting Songque (who btw didnt see a Boss after Teri Patch)

[ember locust]

It was lethal you mean

[velvet dune]

Yeah or sera

[abstract night]

Vita?

Over sena?

[velvet dune]

Hitcount

[random hill]

guys i literally just had a dream where new rita's combo atk was a shield you could charge for up to five seconds and her wa was a sniper scope and her passive was idly swallowing any mobs on an ow map in a certain range

[ember locust]

Yes

[velvet dune]

Sena doesn't Support wheel

Wait

[noble cobalt]

She still has some use cases in WoD

[abstract night]

Excuse me

[velvet dune]

Other way around

No Vita was Always better

BC physical breach

[ember locust]

Sena does BUT Vita was better ALWAYS

[noble cobalt]

S0 vita is not always better in WoD than Sena

[abstract night]

Ah yeah songque

[mild owl]

not wod just songque

[velvet dune]

Very Situational SD boss

[noble cobalt]

I see

[mild owl]

but there are still situations where sena is better

[velvet dune]

Yeah Sena gives 16% elemental breach

[abstract night]

In copium i trust for rita sci vita/sena to be best in slot

[velvet dune]

Just bonkers

[noble cobalt]

No field time requirement will always be a decent niche for sena to have

[mild owl]

i mean yeah 16% ele breach is actually pretty good for songque

[velvet dune]

Nope Ely is the new best wheel Support

Based on people Testing her in wheel Teams on bilibili

[velvet dune]

No

[noble cobalt]

For Thele and HoHe, I dont think there is testing for lamp

[ember locust]

Wtf No

[abstract night]

I said rita

[ember locust]

Stop copping bro

[abstract night]

Songque has buffs with ele breach

[velvet dune]

Yeah Rita is wheel?

[abstract night]

Yeah

[velvet dune]

And Ely provides the biggest buffs

[ember locust]

Oh that

[abstract night]

What does ely give for WoD?

[mild owl]

what did u think i meant

[noble cobalt]

I just run ely and sena together in WoD since i have no thele and my vita has no weap

[ember locust]

Bor did you not read her skills ?

[smoky lintel]

Sena is still situationally better than vita lol what are you on about, it really just depends on the boss

[abstract night]

I dont own ely, so i havent bothered too

[ember locust]

The discussion was about Songque at that time

JDS Que

[noble cobalt]

Also is there testing to suggest that Ely is better than Sena in ALL WoD or just some?

[ember locust]

But situational SD as Maxy said

[velvet dune]

Depends

[smoky lintel]

Yeah fair, I just saw that you replied to a message with wheel and assumed it was WoD as a whole

[velvet dune]

But yeah they will prob slap Stardust Mobs into the Wave 1 to shill Ely more like they did with the random one on Seele boss

[abstract night]

Badum

[velvet dune]

?

[abstract night]

Badum worked aswell didnt she?

[noble cobalt]

That was brutal lel, they expect you to have pulled both HLE and Dkey in only week 2

[ember locust]

Yes, she worked on SK Domi

[smoky lintel]

Yeah, hoyo's strats don't always work as intended

[ember locust]

For example

[velvet dune]

From Marisa website

[abstract night]

Thats what i used (rl na)
....then got extremly pissed when other people shoved me out and i got 4th >:(

[velvet dune]

Like we dont Talk about lantern

[abstract night]

Who?

[smoky lintel]

She has some very specific buffs for lightning/ice meele attacks in WoD so makes sense ig

I expect Rita to be meele then tbh

[abstract night]

It got really glitchy when i read that last ..word?

[abstract night]

What r the numbers?

[mild owl]

vita was still not always better than sena for jds

[ember locust]

I mean her weap is literally scythe soo

[velvet dune]

Yeah

[abstract night]

Ima use horb dkey on rita

[velvet dune]

How?

[smoky lintel]

They could easily make that ranged

[velvet dune]

She doesn't Support wheel

Wait

[noble cobalt]

they mean equip it on her

[velvet dune]

Alright bricking your Rita

[mild owl]

if its a songque boss but not phys weather (all dead) unranked sena beats unranked vita

[velvet dune]

By not pulling bis

[abstract night]

Shes already bricked by default
I hate rita but shes lightning >:(

Shes so smug

[noble cobalt]

Transitionary weapon until they can get sig i think

[ember locust]

Unless Rita gets Domain Resonance or Symbiosis, wrong idea

[abstract night]

If i could use sci (and have it be good) with rita id be happy

[abstract night]

HoRbs old weapon
Done

[velvet dune]

You can

[abstract night]

And have it be good

[velvet dune]

Hope you pulled SS Sera tho

[ember locust]

Doesn't work either

[abstract night]

S0.

[noble cobalt]

if they want to push rita/dudu duo, they'll give rita shift probably

[velvet dune]

S0 dont do Shit for elemental valks in wheel tho

[abstract night]

They should give away a sera copy

[velvet dune]

Well

[smoky lintel]

This is with s1 idk S0 numbers

[abstract night]

But like countary elements

[ember locust]

Yes, still HoRb wouldn't work

[velvet dune]

Fortunately Dudu bosseshave lightning down

[abstract night]

Wtf

[velvet dune]

[ember locust]

This list is sad for WS

[abstract night]

Why is that so hyperspecific

[smoky lintel]

They could make her like ps and make her deal 0 DMG as a support but buff extremely well

[abstract night]

Looks fine to me

[noble cobalt]

I'm somewhat convinced that dudu only has shadow star so they can force her as a Rita support

and they just like thought super far ahead

[abstract night]

They did it with horb and brick /frfr

[ember locust]

Wait so far ? Naah you don't think they thought so faar ?

[scarlet sapphire]

I thought the point of giving Dudu Shadow Star was that she could work with Sera somewhat before Teri aop released

[velvet dune]

Considering dudus buffs are Nothing Special

[noble cobalt]

If hoyo thought even 1 year ahead in hi3 we wouldnt have the problems we have right now

[ember locust]

That's what I thought

[noble cobalt]

Maybe Rita boss will incentivize 2 img, idk

[abstract night]

I hope hope hope ritas bosses need paralyze 😔

[noble cobalt]

I just think theyll try to force RS and Rita to support each other

[velvet dune]

They better keep that then

I dont have Dudu and i wanna Score Well without a year old unit

[smoky lintel]

Just make her apply it herself ez

[abstract night]

Or require sci :D

[desert lily]

Breath wants Teri to be relevant

[velvet dune]

Fr

[noble cobalt]

Sci and require in the same sentence

[abstract night]

More relevant

[ember locust]

SCI tombstone dug a third time

https://tenor.com/view/columbina-sandrone-genshin-impact-tiredamityyt-meme-gif-14532979285771849513

[noble cobalt]

World Star Support
Not the best support for any team currently.

WoDestiny Support
Can just ult and stay in the back like Senadina. SIMP does not offer any improvement on existing WoDestiny teams.

[ember locust]

https://tenor.com/view/columbina-sandrone-genshin-impact-tiredamityyt-meme-gif-14532979285771849513

[desert lily]

[ember locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570207855911763971/1275617684951928902/seele_vollerei_and_seele_vollerei_honkai_and_1_more__4b402181eb40a6e25bc53ea6962f278f.gif

[velvet dune]

Her only issue is that she doesn't need any field time

[abstract night]

Uhm

[velvet dune]

Which makes her good

[noble cobalt]

Hey at least shes BiS for LV

[desert lily]

Teri BiS for Teri

[ember locust]

https://tenor.com/view/columbina-sandrone-genshin-impact-tiredamityyt-meme-gif-14532979285771849513

[smoky lintel]

Back in the day when thele BiS was 2 off field supports 👴 ~~ didn't really play back then lol~~

[noble cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/cyrene-hsr-irontomb-gif-5763034034218561361

[desert lily]

Sena and VBm?

[smoky lintel]

Sena and Teri

[desert lily]

T-

[velvet dune]

I just want to keep my Nirvana Streak going without being punished for not having pulled a unit i didnt want a year ago

[desert lily]

[abstract night]

I have a collection of all her WoD buffs:D

1 of them is irrelevent for rita!

[noble cobalt]

Why even give p2 valk unique support utility when p2 dps will just have it in their kit anyways

[velvet dune]

Oh alright

[abstract night]

Helia had to have it tho tbh

[velvet dune]

Yet we havent got a new stun unit since Dudu

[noble cobalt]

u didnt have to do all of the work lol

[velvet dune]

Literally

[abstract night]

Cuz bio lightning
Means paralyze cuz aponia and lightning

[smoky lintel]

I'd rather have in game numbers than a spreadsheet which I've seen mistakes made on in the past lol

[velvet dune]

Just watch her best Team be Rita Ely Vita

[noble cobalt]

hoyo screws up in game description all the time anyways

[abstract night]

I just took pictures

[velvet dune]

And None of this Matters

[abstract night]

Screw ely

Im tired of ely

[velvet dune]

Im not

[noble cobalt]

Hoyo isnt tired of ely

[desert lily]

Elybad

[smoky lintel]

Then I'd rather have the official screw up by hoyo lol

[abstract night]

Shes exhausting

[velvet dune]

Considering they Just pushed out another Ely

[abstract night]

Her animations are pretty
But im tired of this

[ember locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446011203244916747/1433789310536122438/Kiana2_02.gif

[velvet dune]

In two Games

[noble cobalt]

There are still people who think the crit rate affix actually gives them that amount of crit rate

[abstract night]

Thats different!

It says 10.1 crt aswell doesnt it?

[ember locust]

All of that, just to be niche or in the tombstone

[abstract night]

Or something of the sorts

[noble cobalt]

last time i got the crit affix it said crit rate directly

[ember locust]

Just let her die fr

[abstract night]

It goes into the crt formula i think

[noble cobalt]

yeah its just slightly misleading

[smoky lintel]

It does yeah but it says crit rate

[abstract night]

Ah mb

[noble cobalt]

a unsuspecting player thinks the crit rate affix literally gives them 10 or so crit rate

[abstract night]

Theres bronya zay and she can sit offield >:D

[noble cobalt]

[abstract night]

After casting WA initinally

[smoky lintel]

She had her one patch to shine with that, would love to see some more P1 stigs on p2 Supports

Ovt T ala MB was fun

[noble cobalt]

When simp has off field niche and even Senawho is better at it

[desert lily]

Vita?

[smoky lintel]

Yeah

Sadly killed that with fdd

[desert lily]

[smoky lintel]

Dumb passive

[desert lily]

Kek

[noble cobalt]

Mei beach party meta days

[ember locust]

Toooombstoooone

[abstract night]

Deal 20% more tdm
Increases elemental dmg by 34%
Deals 12% more tdm
16% edt

(Idk if the increases and deal are dmg taken)

[noble cobalt]

[ember locust]

https://tenor.com/view/zzz-burnice-zenloss-zone-zero-smug-smile-gif-4403136486943316200

[abstract night]

One provides breach
One doesnt

[smoky lintel]

I mean I do agree that simp is pretty niche but we also saw whales make use of her very short support time on reso guyamas

And she once was BiS for thele, the doomposting really isn't it

[desert lily]

[noble cobalt]

Simp and lamp fighting for 2nd worst p2 valk spot

[abstract night]

I feel like lanterns worse

[ember locust]

Ok whales then, which ranks XD

So I can laugh up more

[abstract night]

It was still bis

[smoky lintel]

It's not about her ranks tbh rather about the ranks of the DPS lol

[abstract night]

Sci's ranks are very pathetic

[ember locust]

https://tenor.com/view/columbina-sandrone-genshin-impact-tiredamityyt-meme-gif-14532979285771849513

[abstract night]

In the nicest way possible

Still a dmg increase tho*

Just not really any locked stills past ss iirc

[ember locust]

Imagine having to whale the DPS to make the support good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570207855911763971/1275617684951928902/seele_vollerei_and_seele_vollerei_honkai_and_1_more__4b402181eb40a6e25bc53ea6962f278f.gif

[noble cobalt]

she still exists

[abstract night]

Yeah tank

[smoky lintel]

It's not like that supports change with ranks is something uncommon lol, but it is fair to acknowledge that

[abstract night]

Teri can combat all qua weathers

[desert lily]

FDD kek

[ember locust]

I mean seeing the current dynamic and gimmicks of P2 valks yes. BUT

Imagine having to whale Sena to make SCI's support good

That's straight up pathetic

[noble cobalt]

Lamp also has shadow star tank

[mild owl]

uh does she

[noble cobalt]

I think teris only topscore is resonance vita

[abstract night]

Ritas name should
Elegant Orderly Spy

[mild owl]

pretty sure wod tank is hohe boss

[ember locust]

Literally it

[abstract night]

I said combat

[ember locust]

Not really, 2 variants of tank

Fire Tank is for Lantern

[abstract night]

Shes quite literally 1st/2nd best on most

[smoky lintel]

I really don't get your point lol, you can acknowledge that someone is niche without doomposting them into the ground. I don't think Schi is particularly good but you can objectively look at a valk and acknowledge that she's niche but has a use

[mild owl]

should have specified the variant my bad

didn't think about it

[smoky lintel]

She literally owns every qua boss that isn't fire weather lol

[abstract night]

Love me some sci gameplay

Spinning round and round and round

[ember locust]

Oops...

[noble cobalt]

sparkle still topscores qua valrahal

[ember locust]

Only one

[abstract night]

Huh?

[mild owl]

she topscores bc her rank scaling is better

at s0 simp wins

[abstract night]

Scis ranks are kinda sad

[smoky lintel]

Same amount of weathers as sparkle has as a DPS, qua has been niche and it's not something new

[ember locust]

https://tenor.com/view/columbina-sandrone-genshin-impact-tiredamityyt-meme-gif-14532979285771849513

[abstract night]

Mango do u think
Img
Qua
Or
Sd
Is worse

[ember locust]

Sparkle owns every QUA bosses, Teri has NO place

[desert lily]

What the HoRb doing

[ember locust]

Literally

[ember locust]

WS Support

[noble cobalt]

Marisa calc has horb at 100% for sparkle dps

[smoky lintel]

That looks like lobster leader board so a fire qua boss ?

[noble cobalt]

and yes marisa calc isnt right about everything but still reliable

[desert lily]

Bad GoI support but good Spork support

[mild owl]

she literally doesnt unless ur counting ranks but why would u

[noble cobalt]

seemingly for sena too

[ember locust]

BroAight wrong tab

[smoky lintel]

I think it's fair to mention ranks

[abstract night]

Sena.?

[desert lily]

[abstract night]

Wheres hle?

[smoky lintel]

But by not saying that that gives her the boss

[ember locust]

LOOL It doesn't arrange anything

[abstract night]

Insta sd shield pop

[noble cobalt]

HoRb is either 100% or 99% for all WS dps

[ember locust]

https://tenor.com/view/columbina-sandrone-genshin-impact-tiredamityyt-meme-gif-14532979285771849513

[desert lily]

How is she better than Badum wtf

[abstract night]

Exactly

[mild owl]

uh it might not count the max hp reduction ig

[abstract night]

HLE and badum should be better for sd stuff right??

[noble cobalt]

although marisa calc is raw damage, doesnt consider utility

[desert lily]

Oh

I would think HLE and Badum would be best for Sena now

[ember locust]

@smoky lintelThis is sad, only 3 Qua bosses and Teri has NO TOP

[noble cobalt]

the SIMP strays

[abstract night]

The 99% is for sci isnt it

[mild owl]

idk how many times i have to say this but

[noble cobalt]

Even lamp and senawho cant catch this much beef

[mild owl]

s0 and above s0 can have different bis teams

[gleaming imp]

But I heard vita was a khia and fell off?

[noble cobalt]

Horb is 98.7% for SIMP (raw damage, utility not considered)

[ember locust]

Fell off for LoA

[desert lily]

Ok so it doesn't count Utility

[ember locust]

But her bosses are getting niche

[gleaming imp]

The vita fdd duo

[mild owl]

yeah fdd shills vita in loa cause why not

[desert lily]

That was only one time on HoS

[noble cobalt]

Yah iirc marisa calcs dont come from abyss stages they come from training range where only raw damage is considered

[gleaming imp]

And that one time was all I needed for proof of the duo power

[mild owl]

its every ps boss so far

[smoky lintel]

Because as said her ranks scale better, I think it's worthy to mention that sparkle wins with ranks but that doesn't mean she owns the boss, same thing when I said that Schi has a niche as a Sena support but only whales can utilize. Weren't you the one who laughed at my point that Teri won as a Sena support when she has ranks lol ? And now you're making the same argument

[gleaming imp]

When you a queen meet a chop so you discuss how to make that chop serve by simply hard carrying it

[desert lily]

Except lamp

[mild owl]

oh yeah there was a lamp after fdd release

forgor

[desert lily]

Clock for PS only appeared on her release patch

[noble cobalt]

me waiting for hoyo to run LoA tank so HoHe can exist in that ring

[ember locust]

Fair point but that doesn't make SIMP any better and Spork is far better than Teri is just bc of her skills and contribution for LoA

[abstract night]

They both support a different ring

[smoky lintel]

For me it was never about Teri vs spork you just straight up doomposted Teri lol

[ember locust]

What do they have with running bosses only once

[mild owl]

i mean idc if u say teri sucks but dont justify it by using ranks as a standard

[noble cobalt]

simp sucks because simp sucks lel

[ember locust]

Let's be honest, the doompost is kinda deserved, there is not even much whales in global servers, it's mainly CN players

[desert lily]

Don't have a fucking clue

[noble cobalt]

I think abyss needs to be reworked to be more like shiyu defense from zzz tbh

[ember locust]

They already did that for Dudu with Kebin

[noble cobalt]

[abstract night]

Sci is average 😌

Middle of the road

[noble cobalt]

[abstract night]

Not great but not bad

Atleast thats how i see it

[smoky lintel]

? How does that make the doompost worth, it's probably just my general disapproval against doomposting but you can say " she's not that good and is really niche, just wasn't really a good pull " without saying she's dead she was never alive useless valk

[noble cobalt]

No she is bad she's just not literally the worst character

[ember locust]

Average is such a stretch for her

[abstract night]

She isnt the greatest

[ember locust]

Seeing how almost every P2 valks are

[gleaming imp]

Can't you brute force teriteri shill with vita?

[abstract night]

Probably

[smoky lintel]

You could brute force a lot with vita

[abstract night]

Just make sure to evade

[noble cobalt]

i brute force with fdd lel

i dont think she scores bad on anything

[ember locust]

I would Vita FDD Cora bruteforce

[abstract night]

^? Mango? Or do u just not have an answer

@smoky lintel

[ember locust]

[mild owl]

fdd brute force is pretty bad but if its the best thing u have it works

[noble cobalt]

my vita is using senawho weap, i lucked from 20 pull carnival

so i do fdd vita corAlie brute force

[noble cobalt]

in what world is SD even comparable to QUA

SD is the strongest or second strongest type

[abstract night]

No i meant

Like going against

[noble cobalt]

i see

[abstract night]

Not typing

[smoky lintel]

Kinda depends on the boss for me then but generally SD imo

New qua bosses give you an evade every 0.3 seconds~~ exaggerating ofc ~~

[mild owl]

sd cause its bad even if u have the shilled valks

[abstract night]

Ayyyy lez go

I think sd too

[mild owl]

babe it's time for your 4 pm subpixel sliver

[noble cobalt]

HLE makes SD enemies easier than any other valk

[ember locust]

Bro what

[noble cobalt]

With HLE you can even brute force SD boss with a non SD dps

[abstract night]

Like bruteforcing

[noble cobalt]

HLE and Badum are almost as universal as RoO S rank

[abstract night]

Wdym

Badum only has GoI ws and loa

[smoky lintel]

Bruteforcing SD is really annoying lol, img is whatever done it in the past was fine really, qua depends on the boss new qua bosses give you so much collapses but I can see the argument that old bosses just don't give you any collapses

[noble cobalt]

They have way more lineups that want them as support compared to your average part 2 valkyrie

[ember locust]

Teri's niche is so small, the moment she will even get ASC, she's as good as dead

[desert lily]

Paros is a pain in the ass without HLE

[abstract night]

Get as?

[desert lily]

Even with he still is

[smoky lintel]

Ascension supply

[ember locust]

That point is fair but Alien Guard and Guaymas are really not that bad

[abstract night]

Oh

[ember locust]

I forgot to put the C somehow but yes Ascension

[noble cobalt]

HLE just gives you free win against all SD enemies

[abstract night]

All valks are like that.

Thats not exclusive to sci

[desert lily]

Fucker has a rime trauma bar

[smoky lintel]

Paros and SA wanted to ragebait me so bad with this

[mild owl]

guaymas is horrible by virtue of being a sena boss

[noble cobalt]

the concept of Sena and JDS, SD type valk, needing HLE and Badum to counter SD type enemy

[abstract night]

Guay sucks without a sd S rank dps

[noble cobalt]

[gleaming imp]

The concept of senawho gamplay being what it is

[desert lily]

Early SD pop good

[abstract night]

JDS needs badum?

[noble cobalt]

I meant sena for that

[abstract night]

Badum cant support jds

[ember locust]

Bro wha

[noble cobalt]

SD type valk needs second SD type valk to counter SD enemy

[ember locust]

Ah that

[noble cobalt]

Sena and JDS should ideally be able to counter SD enemy by themselves

[abstract night]

They can

[mild owl]

jd should ideally have a functional kit as leader but it is what it is

[abstract night]

Wait
Why jds again?

[noble cobalt]

They "can"

[abstract night]

Pt1 jds

[desert lily]

JDS DPS not good

[mild owl]

good kit but shes not leader

[abstract night]

Sigh

Jds in wod when i played her feels sad
Lantern feels better

[abstract night]

Wod dps*^

[noble cobalt]

JDS only being able to force critical index as support

Sena not being able to force critical index at all

[abstract night]

Gross

[noble cobalt]

HLE being able to force critical index by breathing

actually JD can force crit index as dps she just needs 3 generations to do it

[scarlet sapphire]

I wonder if we'll get our fifth SD valk for CNY or if they'll finally give us a break from the type

[noble cobalt]

SD type Seele that forces critical index by entering the battlefield and requires HoRb to function

[desert lily]

[ember locust]

They can def do it somehow

[desert lily]

Better SD phys

[feral epoch]

it was, was fun times that i can almost always in top 50-100

[abstract night]

Wtf

[feral epoch]

songque aop and helia doesn't really upgrade sena dps back then before the buff, unless whale. even whale also not that different with lv eden

[abstract night]

Crazy

[nova osprey]

She can do it as leader too its just hella slow

[nova osprey]

Before thel yes it was

[nova osprey]

Still need sd fire

Ajita surely

No wait im dumb

Forgot fws is sd fire

[final locust]

rita ez skip

WoD? i laughed

[gleaming imp]

Just use trio again like when RS Dudu shill is around

Or HoO dps

[nova osprey]

And die because cant compete with rita doing 900+ scores

[gleaming imp]

In RL it’s a easy retain

[desert lily]

Depends on what bosses they do for Rita

[gleaming imp]

If not trio or HoO dps then just use vita to brute force

Plus it’s ascension that patch so my vita at soon to be ss2 will be hitting like a truck in RL

[nova osprey]

And still be -100 score from s0 rita

[final locust]

what new img boss is even left

[desert lily]

Hoyo randomly pulls out a new one from their ass

[nova osprey]

They can just make 1, or make lightning version of existing img bosses

[final locust]

lightning flower

[atomic coral]

clock but it's actually img

[final locust]

cancer x2
but HoO could actually compete

[desert lily]

Kek

[gleaming imp]

And that’s still a retain so I win still

[still condor]

its actually so funny that her shard gather comes before her critical index attack

[gleaming imp]

It’s not about top 3 it’s about retaining for those 400 crystals

[nova osprey]

Anything thats not +100 on rl is losing

[still condor]

you have to fake gather, then break, and then after you have to actually gather

[gleaming imp]

It’s all about perspective

[nova osprey]

Much rather get top3, then myriad nirvana for extra extra xtals

[gleaming imp]

Nirv

No thank you

Only if it’s a abyss I’d do well on

If not then keep it

[atomic coral]

put your ranks to work

[nova osprey]

Nirv easy as long as u dont pull ascension and just pull releases

[gleaming imp]

S0 I’d only do if I got lucky on a half off multi

Like badum for example

[wooden cliff]

vita brute forcing isnt real

[gleaming imp]

I was going to originally skip badum but I got her on half off multi so I got weapon

[final locust]

inb4 helibad takes shita's bosses

[desert lily]

Speaking of that, should I even promote into Nirv for Lightning Wolf?

[gleaming imp]

Use vita

[final locust]

well do you have vita

[desert lily]

What Vita

[gleaming imp]

Wait no vita in the big 2025?

[nova osprey]

Cant because img mechanics like insta kill core or dmg pierce to seed that img units usually have

[desert lily]

I started playing this game on the final week of 7.9

[gleaming imp]

Oh

I hope I get lucky on Rita half off multi, it’ll save me crystals

[final locust]

RS is a GoI supp

[gleaming imp]

I’ll only do half off multis on p1 valks and if I get them then I pull weapon it makes it cheaper overall

[final locust]

shita might be too if they wanna make her relevant but shes already kinda fucked by being WoD img lightning

[desert lily]

She can support WoD though

[nova osprey]

And lightning weather counters phys dmg

[desert lily]

Imagine they actually put RS with Rita

[final locust]

shita will probably use RS support
both imaginary but she is debuffed so

it would be lore accurate to make them each other's supports

[nova osprey]

Nah, sena thel for speed

[gleaming imp]

#besties

[final locust]

#lesbians

[gleaming imp]

[desert lily]

Still don't even know her other tags besides Harmonized Shadow Star

[final locust]

true

hopefully its domain resonance so i can skip even better

[nova osprey]

Locked tag

[final locust]

pls no

[desert lily]

I'm hopeful for Symbiosis and a ??? Tag

[gleaming imp]

I’m hoping for loa or goi so I can use teriteri or chenxue aop since for WS/wod I only got kiaelf and DS

[final locust]

we have enough symbiosis

[desert lily]

[final locust]

kiaelf is good for fire and lightning tho

and DS just got SSS

[gleaming imp]

But AOP at SS better

[desert lily]

SSS is crap upgrade

[nova osprey]

Not like sss for ds matters all that much

[gleaming imp]

So I would prefer using that SS aop over say 4S kiaelf or SS DS

[desert lily]

SSS for DS not much of an upgrade

[nova osprey]

Just always use chen ss

[final locust]

not all the time

[nova osprey]

[final locust]

kiaelf has been better than SS songqueef before

[gleaming imp]

Well thats songque

[nova osprey]

Even at 0/3 should still be better than ds for ws/wod

[final locust]

more like its kiaelf

[desert lily]

Songque Op fraud that's why kek

[final locust]

4* kiaelf's buffs are nasty lmao

songque isnt particularly bad

[gleaming imp]

Potential aop like CE is potential man?

[desert lily]

[final locust]

raw buffs usually make her BiS for new rings when the first release is an elemental DPS and the asop for said ring isnt out yet

we saw this for WoD and GoI

[desert lily]

RS used Sera likely

[final locust]

RS did use sera but it wasn't that good

she could actually use PB really well so long as you played her with JDS

[desert lily]

I believe she was paired with JDS often on her release

[final locust]

correct

best team was almost always TFM + JDS

[nova osprey]

Basicly always, since bita was kinda bad for rs and her weathers

[final locust]

vita post-buff was fine in RS teams

but you just used tfm badum or badum jds

[desert lily]

PS also

[final locust]

PS didnt exist in 8.1

[desert lily]

True

[craggy sentinel]

hello 👋

[desert lily]

But her teams post 8.2 had rotating with PS, Badum, Spork, and JDS

[craggy sentinel]

no riley

ok bye riley

[desert lily]

[final locust]

she always uses PS now

PS + badum usually

TFM is reduced to whale strategy

[desert lily]

Both having the best buffs for RS

[craggy sentinel]

ps more like uh idk

[final locust]

more like RS bosses tend to have mobs for some reason 😭

[desert lily]

Fuck those mobs

[final locust]

otto, HoD

her bosses that run the most frequently

have mobs at the start

[desert lily]

Both the same type (makes sense with HoD)

[copper shale]

its cuz of phys weather buff

not her own buffs

[desert lily]

Ah

[noble cobalt]

why are yall so anti mob...

theyre not that annoying

[feral epoch]

they are annoying

but i love them when ppl get annoyed

[noble cobalt]

I dont think they are...

theyre usually paper and they dont move

[vale granite]

There sometimes are issues with damaging everyone at once

But they become apparent only in Nirv usually

[desert lily]

Not everyone is grouped together

[noble cobalt]

For HoRb dominance weather mobs I just moved a few steps to the left and her weapon skill was able to group all of them

For RS mobs theyre packed tightly enough to hit all of them

[vale granite]

Yes, but did you try to do it as early as possible

That's why I'm mentioning Nirv

[desert lily]

Actually had this issue on Phys HoD, PS WA sometimes doesn't hit them all

[gleaming imp]

I like mobs if valk I use has soul link/able to share dmg between them like mobius on starless andrius

[noble cobalt]

I see... well im not in nirv so

[feral epoch]

opinions

[vale granite]

The mobs weren't the focus there tbf

[gleaming imp]

They were needed for mobius dmg to be payola

[vale granite]

I meant that you didn't need to kill them

[noble cobalt]

HoRb mobs were only there to shamelessly shill HLE support

[gleaming imp]

I meant more so in I like mobs existing

[vale granite]

And still fail xdd

[gleaming imp]

HoRB mobs were cool since I had badum

[nova osprey]

No u need the mobs so u can reset horb ult cd

[vale granite]

Also that, ye

[noble cobalt]

does ult reset do more dmg that the original one

[vale granite]

No

[nova osprey]

No but its fast

Can ult>ca to kill mobs>ult again

[noble cobalt]

Then couldnt they take the mobs out and you just hit the boss with her ult anyways

[vale granite]

It's just the fact that you could CA -> ult -> SO cuz of the mob phase

[noble cobalt]

I see

I guess that makes sense

But also the HLE shill was very shameless

[vale granite]

It's just the usual

Badum was better there anyway in Nirv

If S0

[vale granite]

In RL too

[noble cobalt]

I just did badum HLE because i didnt have Vita during HoRb dominance

Although, slight crit problems

[vale granite]

Actually, it could've been HLE Badum in RL

I didn't really bother

[nova osprey]

Sk dominance was funny because i had to mald that horb qte hits all 3 mobs otherwise its just cooked

[copper shale]

i mean there's also mobs that spawn while u killing sk anyways
i dont rmb if the last cycle had it, but the cycle before last cycle had it

and so u would want to time horb ult to also kill those mobs that spawn while u killing sk

[vale granite]

I don't think the last cycle did

[copper shale]

yea

[noble cobalt]

are there any other p2 valk in the 900 club other than HoRb

[copper shale]

oh i rmb it now was shieldbreak sk

[vale granite]

RS

[noble cobalt]

Ohhh yah I forgor abt her

whens the last time that boss even ran

[vale granite]

Kevin?

Probably the release patch

[noble cobalt]

yah the one that RS can 900+ on

[copper shale]

release patch not seen again

[noble cobalt]

dam

[nova osprey]

They should make more 900+ able boss because funny

[noble cobalt]

Make a boss that Lamp can 900

that would be the funniest thing all year

[copper shale]

remove the transition of sa and u see more 900 prob

oh paros too

[nova osprey]

Make all transition stop abyss timer

[noble cobalt]

what would be the point of doing it then build AR?

[copper shale]

building ar got nothing to do with abyss timer stop

[nova osprey]

Everything else stays the same but trans no longer consumes points

[noble cobalt]

if transition freezes the score then you might as well not have one

[nova osprey]

[copper shale]

having one or not is the same

as he said, its just funnier to see higher number ig

[noble cobalt]

I'd take no transition over transition that freezes the score tbh... if you have transition that freezes the score ur just spending more time on the run for no reason

[copper shale]

but its not about choosing not having a transition, its just about if transition timestopped

but i get wat u mean, if we get to decide over it, then no transition is prob easier

[noble cobalt]

I'm confused now... if adding timestop in transiton allows you to 900, couldnt you also 900 if where was no transition at all

[noble cobalt]

yah lel

[copper shale]

yes, but the idea was that if you wanted to keep the boss old gimmicks intact, then you would want to keep the transition, its just purely the score looking higher or lower

[nova osprey]

Yea, but i like the trans phase, just not the part that consumes pts

[copper shale]

btw did anyone fail more than 3 times, what happens if u fail to let laser hit the middle

[noble cobalt]

Oh well hoyo hates us anyways so they wont do that

[nova osprey]

[noble cobalt]

Bringing joy to hi3 players is a big no no

we must suffer all of the time

[desert lily]

Chibi Ely

[main goblet]

oh the lil flying thingys isn't attached to the chibi?

[main goblet]

ahh i see that makes sense!

[obsidian berry]

360 yuan

[quasi glen]

Trans having timer is better

No timer means there's gonna be jank shenanigans where you have to evade 5 billion times for ari to keep up the score

[copper shale]

ig but if u think about, the kebin transition in ma u could still get ari from dodging stuff, so its not like no timer = cant get ari, rly depends on the transition itself

[weak charm]

is SSS DS any good

[craggy sentinel]

wat is dat thing

[craggy sentinel]

eh the sss skills are whatever

[short knoll]

about the same as SS, a bit better for typeless boss in theory but not like anything would change

[tranquil mica]

do we have gameplay of the new rita?

[short knoll]

what in the pin is all we know about her now

[wise briar]

Ohh

Oh.

[desert lily]

Probably won't get gameplay till beta v2

[wise briar]

Is she gunna support hle.. i hope so..

[desert lily]

We'll find her other tags probably during the Dev video and beta v2 I think

[wise briar]

Hey

If by any chance she doesnt

Do i skip and save for cny valk (8.7) or do i have to pull her

[desert lily]

Depends I guess

[short knoll]

unless you have very little crystal now, 8.6 and 8.7 shouldnt be a problem

[wise briar]

4k

[short knoll]

seem more like a skip
unless she is insanely good
have nothing to do with whether she can support HLE or not btw

[slate merlin]

dudu skipperys

[obsidian berry]