🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[lofty harbor]

[main goblet]

and i can't get the card bc i alr have thele

[lofty harbor]

But isn’t thele in bp

Next patch

[rancid plank]

In paid BP yeah

[main goblet]

yeah but i don't spend

[rancid plank]

So you can get 10 frags from knight

If you spend

[lofty harbor]

Wait you can’t buy stamps in free bp anymore?

[rancid plank]

Only reserve works people

[lofty harbor]

[rancid plank]

HotR is the one going to reserve works

[main goblet]

for the rotating bp u need to pay
reserve anyone can use

[umbral spoke]

for the love of god, have enough pulls if you do that

[lofty harbor]

Right I remember they did that change

You used to be able to buy those freely

[umbral spoke]

my thelema ptsd is talking here

[lofty harbor]

You could also just buy frags, not stamps

So you didn’t even need a char

[rancid plank]

Speaking from experience?

[umbral spoke]

yes of course

[rancid plank]

Oof

[main goblet]

is it worth getting spoikler in 2025 if i get her from free pulls

when i can get s2 vita

[umbral spoke]

i lucksacked thelema on her first carnival

then the weapon didn't come

so many pulls wasted

[main goblet]

😭

[umbral spoke]

i got the weapon on the second carnival, close to hard pity AGAIN

[rancid plank]

I’m considering pulling Badum + wep instead of Chenxue next patch on the grounds that I want her but this might be a bad decision

[umbral spoke]

[lofty harbor]

Tbf I didn’t think they’d enshittify bp this much

Free bp used to be decent

[main goblet]

note that u alr missed some of her shill + pity doesn't carry to the next carnival

[umbral spoke]

the point is that i prepared the pulls in advance

i skipped RS for that reason

[main goblet]

only the same carnival shares pity

[lofty harbor]

[rancid plank]

Yeah I know I have enough for HLE and wep + Badum and wep, it’s just questioning if I will do it

Or if I will be smart

Horb dkey is a skip because I don’t have Horb

[main goblet]

i say wait, most likely you'll not go for badum wp if you go for badum with free pulls

unless u have a lot of surplus ig

[umbral spoke]

depends on what you can cover with her that you can't right now

[main goblet]

but keep in mind 8.7 is assumed to be cny

[rancid plank]

I’m expecting to have 70k by end of HLE banner

-whatever I spend

[umbral spoke]

i'm always for the idea of backpulling Badum, despite the backpulling rule

[main goblet]

and who knows if 8.6 is bait or not

[umbral spoke]

her coverage is just massive

[rancid plank]

I didn’t backpull Badum in Ps patch and I’ve regretted it ever since

[lofty harbor]

Tbf all those questions depend on what you need/your goal is in game

[rancid plank]

People told me not to for meta but she would have been a way better pull than paws ;-;

[umbral spoke]

should she really?

you're kinda screwed in meta now without paws

at least on fdd dps

[rancid plank]

I have hofi

[lofty harbor]

I’m prob not the best one to advise people but if I were you I’d pull for whatever I’m lacking for meta/never skip dk because it’s a permanent account damage

But that’s strictly talking Meta

[umbral spoke]

so have I, but paws has got knows how many buffs specific to fdd lead

[main goblet]

cant forget about paws's own shill

[rancid plank]

Anyway I’m mostly satisfied with my meta performance rn, it’d be nice if I was myriad but RL is plenty

[lofty harbor]

Then prob your plans are decent and I’d skip badum

[rancid plank]

I missed an entire patch of her shill because she was just nonfunctional with only one symbiosis support

[umbral spoke]

this

[lofty harbor]

Not needed in RL at this day and age

[umbral spoke]

it's actually disgusting

[lofty harbor]

Ram’s honest feelings

[umbral spoke]

more drain, more ignite dmg (undiluted af)

[main goblet]

power of girlbossing

[umbral spoke]

initial SP, so free dmg on battle start

and a dmg buff that outweights 3/3 RoO by a mile

[rancid plank]

Fair

[umbral spoke]

and guess what, they will do it again on ely

and whoever comes next

[rancid plank]

Will they?

[umbral spoke]

probably, she has a locked skill

[main goblet]

wait i don't understand this part

[rancid plank]

Couldn’t that just be next ring

[main goblet]

she does ??????

[umbral spoke]

its not an astral ring skill

[rancid plank]

Oh huh

[main goblet]

show me if u can

[lofty harbor]

[willow pumice]

She doesn’t have locked skill

[main goblet]

yeah...

whats it then ram...

[willow pumice]

But next valk is still gonna be new best support for her

[lofty harbor]

I mean, this is usual

[umbral spoke]

okay then nvm, i'm just fearmongering

i really thought she had

[main goblet]

[lofty harbor]

Becoming paranoid about hoyo

[umbral spoke]

can you blame me?

[rancid plank]

Yes

[lofty harbor]

Nah

[rancid plank]

But I won’t

[lofty harbor]

Ram is just new to that thing, we already got used to it

[umbral spoke]

stellar keys are already a bad enough grave

[lofty harbor]

It only became worse since 5.x patches hit

And ever since it’s like that

[rancid plank]

What happened in 5.X

[umbral spoke]

man

[rancid plank]

That was way before my time

[lofty harbor]

Everything happened

I mean they released HoFs and she was relevant for 1 patch

Even tho herrscher

[umbral spoke]

you're kidding

[main goblet]

wait what

[rancid plank]

Why did HoFS stop being relevant in one patch

[lofty harbor]

Then started releasing 2 valks every patch

And one of the valks was always bis support

Sp gear

And the other one some meta dps like Mobi who lasted a year

[umbral spoke]

s rank + sp valk right?

[lofty harbor]

Cuz they stopped running her bosses

[lofty harbor]

Yeah

And they also started doing top up event one patch (during sp valks), spending next patch

So a cycle

That all culminated in trio release tho

Hotr in 6.3, and then Kia elf, hofi and hoo in 6.4

And hotr needed 190 pulls on her banner

The literal next patch they run Susannah bleed which needed two Aladdin sets to be really good (one for support one for her)

And then another sp next patch (TA)

And Hare, which was useless

And then horb

After that they run sirin, change how bp work so you can’t buy frags with f2p bp anymore

[main goblet]

and most of this still carries over to p2

[main goblet]

oh fr?

[lofty harbor]

And then run LV + hos brick

[lofty harbor]

Yes

[umbral spoke]

[main goblet]

lmao

[umbral spoke]

holy mother of wallet breaking

[lofty harbor]

Oh right I forgot about Kira

At some point they started releasing SP every patch too

[umbral spoke]

AND rerun trio?

[lofty harbor]

Yeah

[umbral spoke]

they couldn't have been sane

how are you supposed to afford all of this

[vale granite]

I mean, you aren't

You just pick up stuff you didn't in the past

[rancid plank]

💳

[lofty harbor]

Before that you actually didn’t need to have a char to buy frags in bp either

[main goblet]

oh damn

[vale granite]

Like, for example, you could've had to skip HoFi in 6.4, but you alr have HoO and HoTr

[lofty harbor]

They changed it after they added HoS to bp

[lofty harbor]

Let’s be honest if you skipped them before, you’re probably bricked

[vale granite]

Oh, absolutely

[umbral spoke]

so the whole patch was just ""unbrick patch""

[lofty harbor]

Xd

[umbral spoke]

and kira

[vale granite]

You could say that

6.6 was DW + TA and 6.8 was HoRb btw

Whale fiesta

[lofty harbor]

Yup I told about that

[vale granite]

Ah

[lofty harbor]

6.3 to 6.8 was cinema

[main goblet]

hm no i would have died if i didn't stop playing this game early on in p1 patches

[lofty harbor]

Wait was CN released during 6.3?

[umbral spoke]

maybe thats the reason why everyone stopped playing after p1 ended

[vale granite]

6.2

[lofty harbor]

Oh right

[ripe urchin]

did they buff Horb too or did she get nerfed instead?

[lofty harbor]

CN and then hotr next patch

[vale granite]

6.5 was the only rest period there xdd

Actually, idk

[lofty harbor]

Susannah rest period? You sure ?

[vale granite]

Gotta check the reruns

[lofty harbor]

Xddd

They added a shit ton of bleed weathers just for her

And you were bricked without her

[main goblet]

her dkey is alr a buff
but u can't use it with p1 horb support and apparently her og gear is better for per p1 dps (if that still matters lol)

she doesn't look too good for gol or ws support rn tho....

still an option regardless

and she still got her own shill for the dkey

[ripe urchin]

lol i had no idea

[vale granite]

I meant that it wasn't an S-rank at least xdd

[lofty harbor]

I’d say the only rest period was Hare patch because Hare was mostly useless/copeable with other teams and people just skipped

[vale granite]

The reruns were eh btw

[vale granite]

That's true

[umbral spoke]

i mean p1 trio and hoh also got thanosed out of existence after their dks dropped

[lofty harbor]

Yeah but they salvaged it by Susannah needing two Aladdin sets for best performance

[main goblet]

mhm

[lofty harbor]

So people actually pulled two

[vale granite]

Real

[umbral spoke]

the hoyo employee not including "cannot stack":

https://tenor.com/view/asgore-undertale-deltarune-gif-8006577193793263180

[lofty harbor]

[vale granite]

It was 100% intentional

[lofty harbor]

It was

[ripe urchin]

im kinda wondering her if her dkey is worth it but from what i remember she may be a BiS for Elysia

[main goblet]

btw does it matter which Aladdin pieces should u have for the support since i see variants that doesn't use 3 pc

[lofty harbor]

MB at least

[vale granite]

Well, on HoRb the BiS was Ovt T Ala MB

[main goblet]

i see

[umbral spoke]

sus overtime was just budget option right?

[vale granite]

Nope, BiS

[umbral spoke]

damn

i have it either way, lets see me use it 0 times

[lofty harbor]

Yes they gated the entire stig behind 10h time gated story

[vale granite]

On HoS it was TB iirc? cmiiw

[lofty harbor]

And made it bis

[lofty harbor]

Yeah you run Dracula M

For Sp

[umbral spoke]

how many broke their fingers on HoS combos

[lofty harbor]

We got used to it, it’s pretty fun

Much better than p2 valks

[main goblet]

mainly for atk + having dps horb for her shill
and role filler for MA
she's not awful as a p2 support but she's not high on the chart unless the boss wants her gimmicks
there might be support shill for her but i don't know (maybe flying fish with rs?)

[umbral spoke]

oh okay

[vale granite]

It's good that Euphie's not here

[lofty harbor]

It’s hard but rewarding ig

[umbral spoke]

many button inputs, but managable

[lofty harbor]

Good design

[vale granite]

The Hua glazing would be crazy

[lofty harbor]

Dw I tasted that in dms, we actually both were glazing her

I also glazed FoV recently for the same thing

She’s easier than HoS tho

[umbral spoke]

so really, are f2ps more or less fucked nowadays

[ripe urchin]

ah i see unfortunately i dont have RS i guess thats the valkyrie im going to use my free rolls on

[main goblet]

no no don't backpull rs

[umbral spoke]

i guess they're holding up better nowadays?

[vale granite]

Well, from what I understand Nirv became more difficult to stay in

[vale granite]

Even if comparing now to the beginning of P2

[ripe urchin]

oh sorry when i said free rolls i meant the 20 rolls that are limited to the carnival banners

[lofty harbor]

Yeah more team gated

I’d say p2 absolutely sucks for returnees too

[main goblet]

oh
but she's not in carnival unfortunately
but yeah its okay

[lofty harbor]

Like massively

[vale granite]

Tbf being a returnee sucks in general

[umbral spoke]

so returnees back then could actually just get back to where they were?

[lofty harbor]

At least before you weren’t artificially gated by prisms

[ripe urchin]

ah well

[lofty harbor]

Returnees back then if they whale could get back pretty quickly

[vale granite]

Well, you could at least pull the brand new valk and use your old supps with her

Now you can't even do that

[lofty harbor]

Now you’re gated by leveling up even

[umbral spoke]

ah right

unless they stop making RoO shit on new rings

[lofty harbor]

Pulling a valk and she’s dead for like 2 patches

Because you can’t even level up her gear

Wasn’t like that before

[vale granite]

Just pull more on the weap banner wdym 🗿

[agile monolith]

Is Horb Dkey worth pulling

[umbral spoke]

i'll be real, i have no idea how to make people play GoI 2/3 with vbm

not to mention 1/3

[lofty harbor]

The only thing stopping you were banner reruns , and gear banners had off rates so you could accidentally get a full set of what you’re missing

[umbral spoke]

it's absolute ass

[vale granite]

Too early to tell strictly speaking, but the most likely answer is "yes"

[main goblet]

damn i still remember that event(?) menu that needed lens and reso to get prisms and how long it took me to level up my sena stigs

[lofty harbor]

If you’re not euphie and not pulling zhenyi 277 times

[main goblet]

good thing vbm's maxed set was in the log in event in 7.3

[vale granite]

Ofc it also depends on your funds and what's in 8.6

[umbral spoke]

me using all of that for neumann

[lofty harbor]

Yeah..

[main goblet]

lmaoo

[umbral spoke]

somehow still not running out because shit weapon luck

back to back

[main goblet]

🤝

[umbral spoke]

sparkle was the ONLY valk giving me mercy

15 pulls

[lofty harbor]

I like how there’s even a question whether it’s worth to pull a dkey after I remember how much struggle was it for me to get all the old ones with the rate of them running being 2 times per year during firepower supply

And some dkeys only being on one of them

[umbral spoke]

there's just too many of them and the rl/nirv gap is too high

[main goblet]

ill use this opportunity to bump back my question on what to do if i don't have enough spending currency to either get s2 thel or rank up my kia elf (whos in the box)

[umbral spoke]

i'd get kiaelf

[vale granite]

Gotta ask these questions after actually doing your pulls

[main goblet]

alr

[lofty harbor]

It was just funny that if you picked something else in fp supply in November, you had to wait till next November to get eden twins dkeys

[umbral spoke]

s2 thel? good, but niche

[lofty harbor]

Both are more or less equal value but Kia elf is prob more used in Ma

[umbral spoke]

you stomp anyway with s0 in rl

[main goblet]

but like atp the standard should be s2

[lofty harbor]

And also with dps HoO

[umbral spoke]

maybe?

keep in mind, actual thel dps weathers don't run much

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cFWGzLENE

[main goblet]

oo one min lemme watch

[umbral spoke]

they just spam phat phuck beta edition over and over

not the worst boss i guess

[lofty harbor]

yeah you're basically ranking up an MA valk atp

[vale granite]

Who does that refer to

[umbral spoke]

Hellmaru

[vale granite]

Didn't understand cuz of PTSD

I really hope HLE makes it more tolerable

[umbral spoke]

i call her that because i honestly hate that stupid thing from needing so much time to max in open world

[main goblet]

nvm too whel for me

[vale granite]

Her ☝️ 🤓

[umbral spoke]

okay her

either way, eats so much xp and wants MORE

its even a voiceline

when you run around in sakura village

thats how i came to that nickname

[main goblet]

i haven't maxed my sakura samsara ow bc of the awful exp rate overtime

[umbral spoke]

hate does make you creative tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftPtbTiOhA4

[main goblet]

that thumbnail 😭

[umbral spoke]

i should make more of these

informative and stands out

[lofty harbor]

[main goblet]

lmao

[umbral spoke]

time is usually just running short to make this and a good video. i dont really want to just dump my abyss runs and call it a day

[desert lily]

Wtf 😭

[glass nacelle]

i forgot this shit exists
she gets big buff against typeless enemies

stop run this shit

[desert lily]

Oh right Benares

[glass nacelle]

[main goblet]

thats so specific bruh

she's not even utilizing her sd privileges in here

[desert lily]

So only Benares and Hellmaru

[glass nacelle]

kebin

[vale granite]

I wanted to say Kallen but then realized

[desert lily]

Doesn't she have elemental resistance like Aponia?

[vale granite]

Nope

Apo has res

Kallen is immune

[desert lily]

Damn

Only Phys then on Kallen

[vale granite]

Yup

[desert lily]

She's worse than Apo

[vale granite]

Yup

Well, at least Kallen is a lot less painful to fight if you do have a Phys team

[desert lily]

Would guess maybe RS, JDS, PS

For Kallen

[main goblet]

if this was for support ely there could have been the very cope suggestions of using ely with horb on kallen but who are we kidding atp

[zinc gorge]

imagine v5 this changes to "type neutral enemies" instead

everyone hle supports finna become bruteforce monsters

[umbral spoke]

ely new dreamseeker stan

typeless stonks

just need more typeless bosses

[lofty harbor]

be careful with what you ask for

they'll just make weathers exclusive to ely and they're gonna be gated af by rank so it's either you have ely ranked or suffer and insta slep

[gleaming imp]

That's why you just pull future Ely ascension supply

[slim lion]

So true

[next echo]

Cute

Also no pic for second day?

[muted mauve]

Correct

[rain isle]

SEEWE

[gleaming imp]

Omg the nostalgia

[muted mauve]

where's ToD

[shrewd socket]

it's the HOMU house

[steep axle]

Most p1 boomers dont like HoV i gave up

[plucky cradle]

"most"??

[glass nacelle]

V4.5

[plucky cradle]

❤️

[mossy escarp]

V10 when

[glass nacelle]

5 mins before live server

[plucky cradle]

5' before kurowhel sends me comeback funds

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

[main goblet]

nope i gave up on using a translator (this is trying to say hi love elf btw)
can someone translate for me instead 😭

[desert lily]

Xiao-

[glass nacelle]

the last resonance guaymas and current guaymas are same D

[nova osprey]

Means i can myriad with sena once again

Assuming im nirv by then

Nvm the 2 cycles before are cora and fov cycles, i dont have them

[muted mauve]

Reso SD Lobster is back?

[shrewd socket]

isnt last weather starless rime?

[desert lily]

Starless Rime is on second to last

[ember locust]

Wait they buffed Ely ?

ElyW

[steep axle]

elygood

too bad ill use her just for HoRb support

[ember locust]

BestEly

[ember locust]

LGBad

[steep axle]

can they nerf corabad while they are at it

[steep axle]

me hating on a valks desing shouldnt impact my abyss experience this much 🙄

hoyobad

[atomic coral]

you can do good without her, but you have to work harder to do it

[steep axle]

people is the kevin typeless

the er one

[atomic coral]

it's diabolic kevin so it should be

[steep axle]

hope that reruns

another boss added to my waitlist

[atomic coral]

ely, cora, helia would be good for symphony weather

[steep axle]

corabad

coraidratherusevitaandnothaveenoughspbad

is ely typeless buff for herself

[atomic coral]

independent buff for herself it looks like

[steep axle]

im not cooking

i give up dont rerun kevin

[ember locust]

Delulu land

• Slowbita

[atomic coral]

teammates also gain 50% tdm against typeless enemies during ar charging

[steep axle]

i can work around that

but prob not worth it

[main goblet]

i wonder hows hle as a paws support

[steep axle]

prob not good

paws alr gets buff from corabad

and i doubt ely can replace badum

[muted mauve]

Cards

[mild owl]

is it reasonable to skip horb dkey to get teri s

[abstract night]

Imo HoRb dkey is better, gives u more coverage, and +10 atk, teri is only really good for LoA at S

[mild owl]

well shes not good for roo ever cause i have chenxue ss

[abstract night]

Feel like HoRb dkey is better

[vale granite]

Nice joke

[mild owl]

not a joke just fomo over current abyss cycle not looking forward at all

there is a secret third option 💳

[smoky lintel]

the secret 4th one is to lucksack both

[mild owl]

so what im hearing is i'll get her in 1 pull so i should do it

[smoky lintel]

if your goal is to brick your account

[mild owl]

well that is my goal but i want to do it in a different way

[final locust]

no lmao

just 💳

or if you're RL you can do this with 1 SO

[mild owl]

i cant swipe cause the 20% discount is gone

i'm pretty sure with s teri it would also be one ring

[final locust]

its not

well, it is, but you use 2 shifts on badum

[ember locust]

She's only good for LoA at all, Chenxue is just doing better for RoO

[abstract night]

Did i not say that?

"Only really good for LoA"

[ember locust]

Wrong mention

🤦‍♂️

[abstract night]

R u refering to "at S"
Oh

[ember locust]

RoO Teri is so niche

Only Bita but even that isn't useful anymore

[smoky lintel]

Not even on vita

Chenxue buffs are just straight up better

[ember locust]

That's literally what I said

[ember locust]

^^

[smoky lintel]

What's the niche you were referring to then ?

[ember locust]

That one but I already mentionned that it is not useful anymore

[abstract night]

Curious, is HLE or Coralie seeming to be better?....assuming no more last minute buffs

Or uh debuffs

[final locust]

huh

[abstract night]

Like how they look kit wise ig and uh

Idk

[final locust]

what

i thought you were seasoned enough to know "is x better than x" questions are silly

[abstract night]

Meant more like coverage wise or support wise idfk

I dont mean like
Whos the better dps (they r two different people...)
I mean like ugh if u had to choose one, who would be better?
Does that make sense

[final locust]

no

becuase theyre both extremely good
u want both

[abstract night]

Whats ely got?

[ember locust]

Bro you're really comparing two diff types and elemental DPS ?

[abstract night]

.....i

Ill just ask next week.

[final locust]

best ws support 2nd best wod support amazing goi support best ice dps best sd dps insane sd support

[abstract night]

Ok

[ember locust]

Sena powercrept, Thelema powercrept in supports

[abstract night]

And...coralie

I guess

[ember locust]

No particular changes for Coralie from what I know, still the best support for HLE, still the same and old Vita remplacement on LoA

[abstract night]

Ok..

[final locust]

breach support for LoA GoI and RoO, fire dps, ignite dps

[abstract night]

Ok

[ember locust]

She's BIS for HLE and Helia too

[shrewd socket]

which are the entirety of GoI

[ember locust]

Also BiS for Badum and PS

[ember locust]

Yes

[shrewd socket]

which are pretty the entirety of LoA bc RS barely gets weathers

[ember locust]

Yeah

Basically Sena Support powercrept, Almost Vitaover due to betas changes

[final locust]

thats GoI

[ember locust]

Already mentionned

Finally the Senadina torture ends

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-gif-14887144685173519659

[final locust]

it doesnt

thele still uses her
and she has like 1 boss

[ember locust]

I mean it's not like she's gonna be used that much anymore

[final locust]

she hasnt been used that much for a while

[potent forum]

I used to see people say that powercreep in HI3rd is greatly reduced or something, meanwhile I didn't feel it changed that much

[final locust]

oh no it def is

[potent forum]

2 years is the life cycle of a valk, no?

[ember locust]

Well it"s definitely better than before, but in exchange the valks can be out more quickly than the old ones

[ember locust]

It's been a year and half since Sena's release soo

Same for Cora

And somehow Old Cora is like Eternal Eden

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[potent forum]

There's also longer patches which probably helps, if that counts as helping

[shrewd socket]

ice Raven?

[final locust]

i meant sena

[shrewd socket]

reso guaymas?

[final locust]

ya

[glass nacelle]

I realized ely can trigger resonance during time stop, thelema can't do it even though they are both time stop

[abstract night]

Isnt she bis breach for wod?..

[glass nacelle]

Cd resonance is 0.7s btw

[abstract night]

Aw man....ely might be better
I love ws

[ember locust]

Might, might not, HLE is now the 2nd best WoD support

[abstract night]

Shes BiS in lantern.?

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel moment

[glass nacelle]

[steep axle]

vita is first right
right

[desert lily]

Sena is first

[still vine]

i thought vita was better at least with ranks

[desert lily]

That is true but Sena has close to zero field time in WoD

[main goblet]

that's assuming u ranked her at least
that should be the norm atp but for those who didn't its s sena > s vita

[main goblet]

this too, matters in ma

[desert lily]

[steep axle]

Who the hell does ma

[glass nacelle]

8.4 is another patch that we use all ar valk

[still vine]

clowns

[small wing]

So how hyped are we for anni stream

[still vine]

[short knoll]

only hype if they announce book for glb

otherwise it's just normal patch

[frozen cobalt]

its not even anni anymore

its a big spending patch now

[gleaming imp]

I'm hoping for hint at 8.6 valk

I need 8.6 to either be a major serve or skip for more time save up crystals

[frozen cobalt]

maybe collab

ah yes livesteam today

[novel elbow]

[short knoll]

8.6 will be a big bait for cny

[prisma tartan]

every patch is bait

[gleaming imp]

I’d be happy if they were both it girls

[mossy escarp]

Bait gaem

[frozen cobalt]

figure annoucement

[nova osprey]

Every patch is bait to u smh

[short knoll]

that's why i save for p3

[nova osprey]

[rain isle]

P3 Seele

[glass nacelle]

cnonly glblul

[frozen cobalt]

apho3 never

[muted mauve]

Final Countdown

[glass nacelle]

1.5h

[short knoll]

hsr collab announcement

we will get one of the flame chase

[naive briar]

stop dooming or I doom you

[shrewd socket]

as in Dr.Doom or DOOM?

[limber egret]

[shrewd socket]

more a moment i thought that was your desktop

[naive briar]

yes

looks like I will miss 10 minutes ouch

[gleaming imp]

Omg besties

[limber egret]

Since there is only 1 minute left I'll just say:
Please announce APHO3

[muted mauve]

why does the live wallpaper look so blurry. I'm in source quality

[limber egret]

Starts

[nova osprey]

Where link

[gleaming imp]

I would like either acheron, firefly, castorice, Cyrene, or therta

[limber egret]

pins

.....

[gleaming imp]

Omg Ely is mothering

Ely!Ely!Ely! Is so real

[limber egret]

Oh Da wei

PV

[gleaming imp]

The besties

[short knoll]

smoll ds

[shrewd socket]

deer pajamas

[short knoll]

who on the right? litost?

[limber egret]

ye

[shrewd socket]

likely

for a moment i thought Nana was wearing those sleeveless sweaters

but it's also pajamas

[frozen cobalt]

give me sera

[ember locust]

Wtf are they doing at this point xD

[limber egret]

Wait, it's not litost

[shrewd socket]

Leylah then?

[ember locust]

Coralie lol

[ember locust]

Helia right behind Sena too lol

[frozen cobalt]

why coralie is here

[shrewd socket]

they all there

[ember locust]

What are they even planning to do

[shrewd socket]

so we assume Sena at the end of 9EX wasn't just Entropy seeing her

[main goblet]

helia lmao

[ember locust]

^^

[limber egret]

chibis irl :c

[main goblet]

waiting for my laptop to boot up..

[shrewd socket]

Sonic Colors (2010)

[ember locust]

I wonder wth they're going to cook at this point

[ember locust]

FINALLY a new P2 char

[muted mauve]

||YOUYUN||

[limber egret]

||FINALLY||

[main goblet]

did she show up or be mentioned before? im not a lore person

[ember locust]

||BRUH Kiana and Ely together||

[limber egret]

She's been mentioned since the beginning of part 2

[frozen cobalt]

they fucking did elykia

[main goblet]

oh

[shrewd socket]

oh so now we have to act like we know her?

[ember locust]

||Wait it's that idol ?||

[main goblet]

nah she looks diff

[naive briar]

nobody read story ||Youyun is Chenxue's professor||

[ember locust]

Oh

[shrewd socket]

didn't she get like 2-3 mentions at all?

[gleaming imp]

||Could this be our 8.6 Valk? but what about my p1 nostalgia being shilled ||

[frozen cobalt]

nah

[main goblet]

dead/j

[frozen cobalt]

give me sera valk first

[limber egret]

Watch her be an astralop

[nova osprey]

||p1 dead bro||

[ember locust]

At this point they can do anything

[nova osprey]

[frozen cobalt]

maybe shes an astral op

[shrewd socket]

maybe she is nothing until 8.7

[main goblet]

maybe she never becomes playable

[limber egret]

No but for real, ||if Youyun really appears then I'll keep coping for Moonshell until the last of my days||

[nova osprey]

Would be funny ||if the professor and both her students are just aops and not playable||

[shrewd socket]

i was right about to mention Moonshell too

[shrewd socket]

the legacy

[ember locust]

No waaay Ely Brainrot x)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BOX2IsEd-8

[frozen cobalt]

what is that ticket

top ups?

[main goblet]

which one

[jagged meteor]

carnival banner tickets i think

[naive briar]

the whole lore chat knows

[mossy escarp]

https://b23.tv/WfSXOuw

[limber egret]

And with this they've announced everything I think?
Now please announce apho3.

[muted mauve]

LOVEELYSIA999

[limber egret]

The art book left i guess?

[shrewd socket]

and is this the whole lore chat?

[muted mauve]

there's still the 2nd half.

[limber egret]

[shrewd socket]

what's usually in 2nd half?

merch related stuff?

[naive briar]

HoDom room

[jagged meteor]

its been almost 2 years but we finally have a new hi3 vocal track 🤪

[shrewd socket]

we literally got no ceiling last year

[jagged meteor]

yeah that was almost 2 years ago

[shrewd socket]

that last year

[jagged meteor]

in like 3 months

[limber egret]

Look it closely because we won't get it unless we buy it

[shrewd socket]

still wonder what they'll do with that outfit

[steep axle]

artbook4

glbartbook3when

[steep axle]

atleastgiveusanenglishversionfor3😭

[shrewd socket]

just buy it

[steep axle]

its not english

[dreamy pendant]

Shipping costs more than books so I doubt we will see one again

[dreamy pendant]

It’s practically a picture book tho

[steep axle]

i like reading

[steep axle]

are missing typewriters there actually

i dont think we got one for paws and cora

[muted mauve]

the designs but not the text

[dreamy pendant]

KIANAAA

I need someone to lend me money so I can buy it

[next echo]

Beautiful😍✨❤

[muted mauve]

Finality ring

[next echo]

Oh

My

God

It's soooooooo pretty

[muted mauve]

Only Ely?

[limber egret]

Finally, new ost

[glass nacelle]

Call event ew

[feral epoch]

when released

[frozen cobalt]

what are they doing

[limber egret]

It's a roulette with 13 flamechaser's name i believe. Just now was kalpas

dunno what's about

[frozen cobalt]

say the fc text

catchphrase

[shrewd socket]

those ripples are indeed selenic

[main goblet]

are they playing the event? i left for 10ish minutes

[muted mauve]

guest small games section.
First voice acting game, now match-3 games.

[main goblet]

ohh

nice

[shrewd socket]

they play games going at mach 3? is that even safe?

[limber egret]

I guess it's going to end soon... So please just announce apho 3

[mossy escarp]

Cope

[frozen cobalt]

what are those concept

[limber egret]

From the art book

[next echo]

All those designs are better than the final version

[gleaming imp]

Not a single miss, mother

Snek spotted

[shrewd socket]

i think i like the final more than all of those

[mild owl]

i agree

[next echo]

Kalpas looks cute

[next echo]

I find it bland

[mild owl]

elysia served and ate and her face card was approved

she broke the motherscale

[ripe urchin]

APHO 3 next year surely

[gusty thistle]

Vol 3 and 4 artbook surely

[shrewd socket]

if final is bland then all are bland

[muted mauve]

stream over

[next echo]

Not really. The two below looked fresh

[limber egret]

....

[frozen cobalt]

are you kidding me

no annoucement?

[shrewd socket]

the bouquet gun could easily fit final

[limber egret]

Welp, see them next year for the next non-chibi stream

[muted mauve]

Don't think they mentioned the longer patches

[glass nacelle]

[supple furnace]

Meh stream

[gleaming imp]

I was hoping for a 8.6 hint

[feral epoch]

what do you expect

[muted mauve]

we did get one, possibly

[potent forum]

no collab, I consider it a win

at least not soon

[shrewd socket]

i wouldn't mind a collab, just that it gets handled better

[muted mauve]

waiting for stream reupload to make a list of part 2 news

[desert lily]

[small wing]

How's the CN side reacting to the stream

[feral epoch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/622385222541115403/1418972554013708399/3_-_.mp4

[steady pagoda]

MUST PULL FOR HER !!!

[potent forum]

Is this a different model than the usual short one?

[steep axle]

Who the hell is that

[neat yoke]

Bailu Youyun, Chenxue's professor.

[steady pagoda]

If they gonna make her a damn npc or a Astral Op, i swear i'm gonna take the first plane i ser to go in China and slap Dawei

[small wing]

Big win for the five people who remember the chapter 1 readables

[steady pagoda]

Now... where's my Moonshell

[feral epoch]

dawei doesn't have anything to do with these

[steady pagoda]

I'm gonna slap him, no matter what

[shrewd socket]

as in base model?

i think it's the same

[steady pagoda]

Am I the only one who notices that the part 2 models are getting better and better or am I wrong?

[shrewd socket]

it's called development

[feral epoch]

better but now no longer unique

[steady pagoda]

Yeah, for example, I've already seen Genshin, the new models are also beautiful there

[shrewd socket]

what's so wrong about it?

[steady pagoda]

Oh ! Nothing, i write is beautiful and i'm happy for this (even on HI3rd)

[cinder cloak]

playable Leylah when

[steep axle]

Im afraid shes an aop like

Doesnt look playable enough

[cinder cloak]

[steep axle]

Also when are we getting that p1 finale teri

[small wing]

so is the CN side doomposting as hard as Twitter or what

[steep axle]

Cn hi3 side is a mood

[cinder cloak]

I want 8.6 to be a skip patch

I need a break from all the back to back s-ranks

[steep axle]

Tbf you can skip any valk

Just have to face a3

[main goblet]

lowkey same unless i somehow can afford 8.6 and 8.7 as well
ill probably still keep pulling until i don't have enough

[cinder cloak]

[feral epoch]

just don't pull?

[cinder cloak]

that’s what I’m trying to do

I skipped FDD

[feral epoch]

skipped spending event valks

[cinder cloak]

I bought a bunch of b-chip bundles and pulled on the RS banner

[muted mauve]

not that I've seen

but I've also not read the comment sections much so far

[cinder cloak]

so I was able to get everything I wanted from the spending event

[feral epoch]

why you're pulling reruns. and niche valk

[muted mauve]

been busy eating and now translating

[glass nacelle]

What's doompost

[cinder cloak]

because I wanted more atk

I got RS from S0 to S2

+60 atk

[feral epoch]

you do you

[cinder cloak]

I am not a competitive player anymore lol

[feral epoch]

then why do you care about this

[cinder cloak]

skip patch = more time to save crystals for SSS Leylah

[steady pagoda]

❓

[shrewd socket]

SSS leylah but no team

[shrewd socket]

elaborate

[small wing]

https://x.com/Nerox893/status/1969401571243889059

Nerox (@Nerox893)

8.5 stream is over, and ngl I am lowkey disappointed. I don't blame the Honkai devs, they are doing all they can with the limited resources they have left, but I am getting really frustrated with HoyoVerse.

X · Sep 20, 2025, 2:01 PM

just an example

[cinder cloak]

all signs point to EoS coming in mid-2027

[steady pagoda]

Well...I understand the concerns, but they are greatly exaggerated.

[small wing]

is this a bit lol

[cinder cloak]

[steady pagoda]

Let's say they focused more on Elysia and honestly that's fine, I would also honestly do the same, to focus on a specific character loved by everyone and let's say little or nothing else

[shrewd socket]

very exaggerated

[copper shale]

i dont want collabs im happy ngl

[shrewd socket]

every patch PV is like that

a few seconds of story chapter, then show the valk

[cinder cloak]

I want another Genshin collab

bring back Keqing

[steady pagoda]

Let's say they gave that feeling like -ok, let's show Elysia so we can focus on the next chapters (and versions) etc-

[cinder cloak]

[steady pagoda]

So honestly...it's a little annoying from a player's point of view, but for marketing and other reasons it's a very interesting and good move in truth, in fact, they gave us a slight taste, ||Professor YouYun||, bringing back a character from the first chapters, which suggests that they haven't forgotten the previous characters (like ||Moonshell, NightFigh, Youyun|| etc) and that some functions they wanted to introduce, could return, but instead of Oxia, maybe they'll focus more on this area

[round niche]

you guys, when can we expect 8.5?

[shrewd socket]

the same as every patch

[willow pumice]

CN next thursday
EN 23 oct

[round niche]

Thanks

gotta plan my pulls

[willow pumice]

no collab
Damn sis is expecting something that was never even teased and got disappointed

[willow pumice]

2026
CN has one more patch this year theyre not gonna announce 2026 stuff in this stream

[shrewd socket]

apparently ppl expected a 2nd HSR collab with no base for it

[willow pumice]

[feral epoch]

from where are those sudden expectations

[shrewd socket]

exactly

[steady pagoda]

Honestly, if we think that this patch will last 10 weeks, then next year the team will probably focus on the Lunar New Year (if I'm not mistaken the animal should be the horse) and therefore they will have to think of a plot and a single character (I hope not from part 1) then if we also put together the next new characters (for example we saw ||Youyun|| as a new character and maybe there will be others) and new chapters for this new narrative arc, well for a team that is halved for now it's a lot, and I don't think they would have managed to put in a collab too, in my opinion, probably, we will have a collab in 2027 or late 2026

[cinder cloak]

I saw a fake leak a while back about firefly from HSR being playable lol

[shrewd socket]

HI3 has plenty of collabs along the year, just that ppl don't count them bc they aren't in-game

[cinder cloak]

Umamusume collab 🐴

[steady pagoda]

This is also true, in fact the Kiana statuette is part of a collaboration

[steady pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-gold-ship-mj-gif-16300409534087469760

[shrewd socket]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-kamen-rider-555-kamen-rider-faiz-yuji-kiba-木場勇治-gif-8057294279145253158

[steady pagoda]

However, I still think so, I understand the concern, but as for Dawei's part, I honestly don't understand the connection to the situation. If I'm not mistaken, it wasn't even present on Genshin's anniversary

[ember locust]

Damn boi already with the doomposting

While I understand it's frustrating for not getting Artbook 4, the presence of no sneak peak is a little exagerated, we could get more infos when 8.6 comes

I mean like we're in september

We could get infos in november or december about next year

[potent forum]

waiting and waiting

[novel elbow]

[ember locust]

And NO they won't stop Part 2 story when they literally have still 6 ARs to release and many places of the Mars system to explore

[willow pumice]

12 ar thing can probably be fake too since we skipped the other areas

[steady pagoda]

No Moonshell = Eos (i'm jk)

[willow pumice]

And can make sense since so far the new valks dont have new tags

[ember locust]

The 12 AR thingy was mentionned in the story, in the beginning of Part 2, if I'm not making a mistake

[willow pumice]

And apho rings (who could possible be based on mars one) also have 4 rings ( we now have 4 spec + 1 roo wildcard)

[ember locust]

^^ But there is that thing too indeed

[cinder cloak]

Ok I will keep waiting

no more doomposting… for now

[steady pagoda]

Chapter 9ex has divided the community quite a bit, to be honest, it's not clear what they have in mind. I'm waiting for the next arcs to see what happens. I don't want to say unfounded things.

[ember locust]

One thing though, Elysia is still only the 2nd valk of the GoI ring... They can also prepare something for later like they did prepare Dudu for GoI later on

[steep axle]

I want an apho mei and um

More phy dps

[cinder cloak]

We’ve been asking for APHO Mei for years

[potent forum]

play apho

[steady pagoda]

now they gonna drop another Mei but is a mars variant at random

[cinder cloak]

lmao

[potent forum]

that's leylah, according to some

[steady pagoda]

i see now Kalpy lmao

[cinder cloak]

step on me Leylah

[ember locust]

Wait... I didn't notice Vita's leg until now

[steady pagoda]

call me crazy, but I don't like Leylah, the way she behaves even in the story is very annoying, in fact I prefer entropy more

[ember locust]

Based, I think the same

Leylah acting like a spoiled one somehow

[potent forum]

you're crazy /j

[feral epoch]

dawei was present in genshin anniv livestream (CN only)

[cinder cloak]

[steady pagoda]

If I remember correctly it wasn't in one, I think? (I don't remember which version and which version is Genshin now )

[cinder cloak]

dawei shows up in every anniversary livestream

[steep axle]

I dont even know what this girls name is but she looks cool i hope they make her playable

[cinder cloak]

based

[steep axle]

I think he was on 2.0 en stream

[cinder cloak]

https://youtu.be/WqVnMnnYdKc?si=wV5qHQ4t0X2PiGl2

[steep axle]

Would be so sad if she ends up as story npc

[potent forum]

her "playable" model looks q bit cross eyed

hoyo please fix

[feral epoch]

he was always show up during anni stream, just that 6.0 anni for glb didn't have dawei appearance, got substitute to flins and lauma VA talk

[steep axle]

It could be like PE

[steep axle]

I wasnt even on 6.0 stream

[steady pagoda]

like Ajita, it's funny that many people think it could end immediately part 2, but let's remember that Ajita is hiding something from us, that not even Vita can understand (Ajita, step on me pls)

[steep axle]

Hell i havent even updated genshin to 6.0 yet

[cinder cloak]

[steep axle]

Who is ajita

[steep axle]

I get bullied by pookie everyday for it 😔

[cinder cloak]

[steep axle]

No way i got a message from pookie as i mentioned her

[steady pagoda]

||a woman who can take the piss out of Vita||

[steep axle]

Oh hey purple lady

I like purple ladies

[cinder cloak]

same

[small wing]

Have you still not caught up to story LG

She's been here since chapter 2

[steep axle]

I didn't even finish part 1.5

Ill read it someday

[steady pagoda]

[cinder cloak]

[steep axle]

I can probably steal the pc for a whole day and read all of the story

But im lowkey busy until summer so it will just pile up

[potent forum]

that's 80 hours of story I think

[cinder cloak]

[steep axle]

Hell yeah

[small wing]

Not to be mean but what are you playing HI3 for if not the story

[steep axle]

I was playing for HoV

Ig its just gameplay now

[steady pagoda]

star rail player be like when they try to read the lore

[steep axle]

Tbf ive been playing since 4.6

Reading gets tiring after a while

Ill get back to it one day

[shrewd socket]

gameplay

[main goblet]

gambling

[ember locust]

They're on Luna I, Nod Krai version

[shrewd socket]

so 6.0

[ember locust]

Yes

Could explain why DaWei was absent

If he was

[steady pagoda]

maybe he was busy with something else

[willow pumice]

PAWS

[cinder cloak]

I like the design at the top

no asymmetric legwear

[potent forum]

looks a bit more balanced, all I see in the final design is abdomen

[glass nacelle]

If only she has mask

[willow pumice]

Imagine if we get this and she's just called called as Thelema clone like Thelema was when she was first released

[glass nacelle]

[cinder cloak]

[abstract night]

@fervent hinge :(

[small wing]

so no reason to doompost ye

[fervent hinge]

you gotta be SHITTING MEEEE

[steady pagoda]

dang, i hope a possible outfit in the possbile future, i really like ti concept

[abstract night]

I want the blue one :(

Wait

Can we see coralies

[fervent hinge]

I feel like coralie's is gonna be the biggest ragebait ever

[steep axle]

we couldve had ronova genshin 😔

[steep axle]

it will

i can use it for redesing

[shrewd socket]

[glass nacelle]

hov mentioned in 2025

[steep axle]

noway

they found the befall storyboards

were they in deepest corner of basement or smth

[cinder cloak]

[prisma tartan]

i got robed

[main goblet]

oo this is kinda HoT coded

mainly the colors

[main goblet]

honestly this is too adorable
don't like the top part tho...

is.. is there any pics for fdd designs..

[prisma tartan]

giving me hua vibes

otto even

[main goblet]

same

[shrewd socket]

could fit more for revenge spirit than for Helia tbh

[main goblet]

mhm

[steep axle]

Red helia is cool

But im glad its white orange

(HoV mentioned)

[main goblet]

i like default too! but i wouldn't mind any of these as a skin

[steep axle]

Corabad needs a skin first badly

[shrewd socket]

as spending, right?

[main goblet]

depends ig

[steep axle]

Spending costume isnt fun if i own the valk

[main goblet]

the red one could have a lot of sfx

[steep axle]

Gacha

[main goblet]

yeah..

[shrewd socket]

Spending ones have sfx no?

[steep axle]

Gacha ones have more

Spending is mostly recolor

[main goblet]

yeah but i feel like the red one can have a lot of it
or detailed sfx

maybe a lot of references packed into it

[shrewd socket]

yet not absolutely

[steep axle]

Sfx recolor

Model is different im not that dumb

[main goblet]

blue one maybe event

or the orange one

[shrewd socket]

LV spending outfit fireworks aren't from default

[noble cobalt]

I rly thought they were gonna address the longer patches during the live 😭

[steep axle]

Mostly i said

[steep axle]

That reminds me that one elephant picture

[main goblet]

not when it was introduced in 8.1 (or ig 8.2)
they seem fine with being silent about it

[main goblet]

whats that

[steep axle]

The

[prisma tartan]

omfg thats why its been linggering on my mind,it remind me of odysseus

[noble cobalt]

its a picture of an elephant and the caption says "address me"

[prisma tartan]

[noble cobalt]

addressing the elephant in the room

[shrewd socket]

the elephant in the room

[prisma tartan]

what elephant?

[noble cobalt]

I was kinda hoping for a roadmap of future valkyries or... future anything... or smth like that too....

[main goblet]

oh that would have been nice...

honestly i get a feeling that 8.6 valk will probably be from the same messenger of love event...

or 8.7
or both

[shrewd socket]

could also be story

[noble cobalt]

I guess that would be fine since the last 3 valks were story valks

[prisma tartan]

probly be story tbh

[noble cobalt]

If its a messenger valkyrie though I hope its S rank Eden because her and Elysia have something going on...

[shrewd socket]

not 2?

[steep axle]

Is there anyone from story rn

Or will they pull up a sushang

[prisma tartan]

leylah?

[shrewd socket]

Leylah hasn't been released at all

[noble cobalt]

Isn't PS a story valk

[shrewd socket]

PAWS

[prisma tartan]

i mean seeaweed

[steep axle]

Ps isnt

[noble cobalt]

oh...

[shrewd socket]

not released

[prisma tartan]

i see

ngl its probly seaweed or rita(idk why rita come in mind)

[main goblet]

maybe ||youyun||
ajita (idk anymore)
leylah but maybe later on
DS if they adjust her model ig...
seele
rita because fuck it
sera
god sena (maybe if they change her model a bit, also too soon)
not mei

[noble cobalt]

I'm kinda scared to pull now because I have a feeling that we are gonna get jumpscared by Leylah valk soon, and she will probably be cracked

[shrewd socket]

you'll have savings for her by the time she releases regardless

[prisma tartan]

ye

[main goblet]

leylah is probably not in 8.6 you'll be fine

[noble cobalt]

I'll probably pull for LWE and then save for Leylah because there's no new astral ring in sight

I want ranks for her

[prisma tartan]

what is the current story roaster?

[main goblet]

can you elaborate

[prisma tartan]

the main plot rn ig

i havent play story in a few patch other then event

[jolly ridge]

does anyone have the new version's preview page link?
i want the background music in the pv :P

[shrewd socket]

Entropy, Helia, Coralie, Teri, Dudu, Vita, Mei, Bronya, Ajita, Nana

CH10 seems to involved Entropy, Sena, Helia Coralie and Nana

[main goblet]

oh now that i think about it a lot of characters (even for a bit) showed up in the last chapter...

[main goblet]

there's a bit with chen and the shus iirc

[shrewd socket]

idk if the child is Entropy or Leylah before meeting Sena at all