🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[cinder cloak]

[main goblet]

ngl theres nothing really to powercreep in the ice department
aside from thele ig but might be too soon

[unique scroll]

Do they usually tease new dkey dlc in those?

[vale granite]

Nah, gotta wait for beta

Or the full trailer

[unique scroll]

Ok thx

[gusty thistle]

Ah shut

Ely

Surely i get her discounted 10 pull

[vale granite]

And brick yourself for the spending event?

[gusty thistle]

Fock

Im entering 8.5 with 20k

Surely thats enough

[vale granite]

🧱

[gusty thistle]

Based on last year

What were the anni rewards again

[vale granite]

We don't know yet

Oh, were

[copper shale]

last year we got stamps did we

[vale granite]

7.8 was HoFi

[gusty thistle]

What about the free rolls

[main goblet]

valk card, outfit if u reach 30k crystals, stamps, elf frag box, valk frag box, stuff like that

[gusty thistle]

All i remember was the free ten pull.

[copper shale]

carnival?

[gusty thistle]

Ah yeah that one

[main goblet]

on vita supply?

[copper shale]

it ran up to songque did it

[noble cobalt]

2 lightning crossbow Helias 2 fire rocket hammer coralies and 2 ice bow Elysia’s… is there some unspoken rule now that valks gotta be the same as their predecessor battlesuit 😭

[main goblet]

carnival gives u 2 10 pull cards

[gusty thistle]

Always was

[vale granite]

Unironically yes

[gusty thistle]

Aside fron earlier valks

[vale granite]

There were exceptions introduced in P2 though

[noble cobalt]

Yah RS and Simp branched out from the rule

[main goblet]

not exactly
eepy is chained blades but other teris are cross
mini dudu is javelin the other dudes are lance
its waterever hoyo wants (tm)

[vale granite]

PS too in regards to damage type

[main goblet]

its not like it matters if the gameplay is smth else lol

[noble cobalt]

I thought that badum and elysia would have been great characters to give trick staff weapon to but I guess not 😭

[gusty thistle]

It all started with hfs. Weapon type: gun. Uses greatsword instead

[smoky lintel]

Tbf badum feels like she was supposed to be a trick staff user imo

[main goblet]

was senti bf or after hofs

[vale granite]

Before

[gusty thistle]

Before

[main goblet]

ok so theres senti lel

[gusty thistle]

Senti broke the gane

[noble cobalt]

Ik that weapon types really don’t matter but it’s just kinda annoying how a lot of them make 0 sense

[copper shale]

hov was first one

[vale granite]

HoV uses pistols but doesn't actually wield them

[gusty thistle]

HNMMMM

[main goblet]

acc no its technically starting with white comet not relying on her guns

[gusty thistle]

The guns shoot lances duh

[vale granite]

[prisma tartan]

she does

[noble cobalt]

Like dragoon being a rocket hammer user doesn’t feel right

[gusty thistle]

They guns actually work

Smol damage tho

[main goblet]

kinda if she acc bonked with it

i can imagine her doing that

and ligth it on fire

[smoky lintel]

I kinda like that both of helia's and coralie's battlesuits have the same weapontype

That's the weapon they're familiar with they just got stronger in other ways than learning a new weapon or smth

[main goblet]

yeah but her main gameplay is her bonking with her legs n stuff

[noble cobalt]

I just hope that Ely actually like… fires a bow in her gameplay and doesn’t do some random crap like pull out a huge magic wand

[smoky lintel]

Don't jinx it

[main goblet]

at least b rank mei n bronya stayed true to their weapons

[ember locust]

Lol too soon she cannot even be summoned anymore

[noble cobalt]

They could totally lean into the Cupid theme with Ely although they kinda did that for HoH already

[ember locust]

Gameplay wise, Kiana did too but when you count animations... Nah

[prisma tartan]

tbf the event is about msg of love

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897744969769549875/1352334975130796043/1740880863704058.gif

[main goblet]

it might be for the best that most new valks arent bound to their wp type in their animations
means more fun attacks and can mix diff attack patterns together

[noble cobalt]

I wish that valks mixed their true weapon type with another weapon type instead of outright not using their true weapon type at all

[main goblet]

white comet is mainly bonking with her legs tbh
unless u use wp skill

[main goblet]

thats fun but i personally dont mind as long as the animations are cool

i would cry if fdd had the same speed in her attacks as vbm

[noble cobalt]

I think it’s just kinda jarring because early p2 valks all incorporated their weapon type into their animations and then like 8.1 onwards all of the new valks didn’t use their weapon type in combat at all 😭

Like they just did a full flip

[main goblet]

vbm got some of that clunkiness as claymore havers just a bit less annoying

tbf her hammer is too big but she does feel annoying if you stay any longer (fortunately u dont need to)

[strange crystal]

Thelema is still one of the best P2 valks, she got different attacks on ground and aerial. After her, it starts to get simple and repetitive for other valks 💔

Her aerial attacks scream P2 valk, at least that's how I feel.

[noble cobalt]

Thelema’s gameplay is like adapting to the battle by switching between air and ground

The other p2 valks either force you to play ground or force you to play air

[ember locust]

The thing is Sushang and Kiana didn't really have any combat moments with their accustomed weapons

It's kinda a different case

[noble cobalt]

I think sushang always should’ve been a sword user

Both of her battlesuits use exclusively swords to attack

[ember locust]

Yeah Idk why they gave her gauntlet, like why

[plucky cradle]

yea and she's a swordmaster in lore too

[noble cobalt]

Her second battlesuit is literally peregrine SWORD 😭

[ember locust]

EXACTLY

[plucky cradle]

the thing is there are only katanas in the game

[ember locust]

Yes

[plucky cradle]

so it wouldn't fit for Sushang

[noble cobalt]

They could introduce a sword weapon type, I mean they added chained blades to the game

Also no greatsword user since VKE 💀

[plucky cradle]

so many weapon types dedge

[prisma tartan]

grt sword died

[scarlet sapphire]

I suspect it's this
Giving a katanas to a Chinese swordmaster might risk backlash from nationalistic types

[plucky cradle]

it's the wrong weapon type for her anyways

[main goblet]

for the best....
unless the make the attacks fast enough

[plucky cradle]

VKE is pretty fast

[main goblet]

or uk theyll just disragard the wp itself

[plucky cradle]

FT is fast too

[noble cobalt]

I wouldn’t mind if a p2 greatsword user was slow but their attacks just hit really really hard

[main goblet]

yeah, prob slow by todays standards tho

[noble cobalt]

Also HoF technically is a greatsword user and she isn’t THAT slow

[main goblet]

[plucky cradle]

I'm sure VKE feels a lot less clanky than Songque's yee yee ahh

[main goblet]

lmfao

[plucky cradle]

let alone Planetfarer

[main goblet]

jds's yee yee ahh died (ish) thanks for loa
god bless

[noble cobalt]

I always thought they never introduced a new greatsword user to like idk honor Himeko’s sacrifice

😭

[main goblet]

new lily n roza isnt out of the realm of possibility hmm

[ember locust]

Talking about her... HOW TF A YOYO IS A WEAPON

[plucky cradle]

it's a drive core

only Senadina's weapon was a yoyo

[noble cobalt]

Yah Sena just uses it as a yoyo it’s not a yoyo itself

[main goblet]

tbf the non lazer one u dont really use
the only clunky attack u use is the star jumper fist attack

[plucky cradle]

starjumper feels so bad to play

[noble cobalt]

Also this is such a nitpick but the fact that all of Vita’s attacks have exactly 1 voice line is so annoying after a few patches

[ember locust]

I still don't understand how it could be a weapon when the very original drive core IS not even a weapon

💀💀💀

[main goblet]

ig i wont mind the star jumper atks if u can just hold the button

[plucky cradle]

it's supposed to work the same way as chakrams in the sense that they just give it any magical bs archetype

[main goblet]

doesnt increase the speed tho

[ember locust]

It's like using a towel as a weapon

Like tf

[plucky cradle]

Aponia used her chakram like a fidget spinner

[ember locust]

💀💀 That's BS for sure

[noble cobalt]

I mean most of them actually incorporated the chakram into their gameplay

Even if it was magical bs

[plucky cradle]

pretty much

[main goblet]

think of it as a mechanical device

[noble cobalt]

P2 valks do magical bs AND they don’t use their weapon type 😭

[plucky cradle]

the only one who used the chakrams properly was Pardo

[ember locust]

@plucky cradle But the thing is a chakram is a true weapon IRL, the drive core is NOT

[ember locust]

That too

Ai-Chan though

[plucky cradle]

I mean irl people don't turn chakrams into giant pairs of scissors either

[noble cobalt]

I mean a lot of the p2 weapons are not really used irl

[ember locust]

Sirin is just Sirin

[noble cobalt]

I’ve never seen a trick staff or a rocket hammer before

[ember locust]

Tbh

[main goblet]

tbf its not like the purpose is to copy irl combat styles

[ember locust]

True though

[main goblet]

its just that if its there its cool

[noble cobalt]

Also what’s the explanation for the magic crap that valkyries these days do… wasn’t the explanation before that herrschers and stuff had Honkai energy that allowed them to use magic

[plucky cradle]

not the friggin hula hoop

[noble cobalt]

I guess they don’t need to explain it because like 90% of p2 valks are either not canon or they’re simulated beings

[main goblet]

earth characters do use honkai energy iirc
p2 is uhhh, computer stuff

[shrewd socket]

VD*

[main goblet]

you can try asking in #📚honkai-lore tho

[noble cobalt]

I was so happy when S Helia and S Coralie were both actually canon, not computer simulated Valkyries 😭looks like they’re back to it though

[shrewd socket]

Coralie: Dragons powers from Nana who's a Scion of Permanence

Helia: battlesuit power

FWS is just HoFi with Rice Cake going around

and you don't rlly need an explanation for every single thing

[noble cobalt]

I mean I wouldn’t say that the power that acts as the driving force for Valkyrie’s abilities is a little thing but it’s whatever

[ember locust]

In addition of that, they can even use those battlesuits IRL

[noble cobalt]

Yah I noticed that with a lot of modern Valkyries they add the little safety net that the Valk is either simulated, the person is real but they can’t use the battlesuit irl, or the Valkyrie themselves is not canon

[shrewd socket]

with 5 minutes limit if going all out for now, but yeah

[ember locust]

And more precisely Helia's battlesuit power is a thing that transforms into a mechanical like being made for combat. Lorewise, Alt Rita was the first one to use it

[ember locust]

Yet Helia and Coralie does

[ember locust]

Exact

[shrewd socket]

alt Rita as in Rosemary, or in Revenge Spirit's world's Rita?

[main goblet]

wdym by not canon? not avaliable irl (hi3 planet)?

[ember locust]

Revenge spirit's world's Rita (the same AU of that "Helia")

[noble cobalt]

Like badum and love wish elf, the valk themselves is not canon to the story

[shrewd socket]

FWS is canon to main story

[main goblet]

oh u mean main story

[noble cobalt]

It’s different than the mars valks because they are canon but they’re simulated

[ember locust]

FWS is literally canon to main story

Rice Cake is also canon to main story

[main goblet]

this, her event count as 1.5 story tho

[noble cobalt]

Isn’t she just a dream version of Kiana lol

[shrewd socket]

no

[ember locust]

No

[main goblet]

she event keeps her festive outfit after she wakes up

[ember locust]

It's her real thing, she kept her festive outfit after being out of the dream

[main goblet]

messenger ely is a multiverse tho

[ember locust]

THAT TOO

[shrewd socket]

FWS and PS are canon to main story

LWE is canon to 8.3+8.4 event's world

[ember locust]

Bustyverse is in a different wordline

[plucky cradle]

yes her affiliation is golden courtyard

[main goblet]

ig the odd one is dsa, shes canon to the story but no one saw her in the same fit as dsa aside from ds
do with that what u will

[shrewd socket]

not rlly multiverse since honkaiverse doesn't work like that, but yeah, another world

[main goblet]

yeah

[ember locust]

Wait even new Ely ?

[plucky cradle]

the new ely yea

[main goblet]

acc is this convo #📚honkai-lore ish convo lol

[ember locust]

Senadina you mean ?

[main goblet]

yeah

her fit in her deepspace anchor

battlesuit

[shrewd socket]

technically CN talk still since it involves LWE

[main goblet]

hmm

i dont use that channel but i think they spoiler there too

either ways as long is its not too off topic to this channel

[plucky cradle]

LWE

[noble cobalt]

Is love wish elf her temporary CN name or is it her official translated name

[main goblet]

ill use new ely, messenger ely, 8.5 ely for now until her official battlesuit name is out

[shrewd socket]

temporary rough translation

[noble cobalt]

I just say Ely tbh, nobody says Ely when they refer to HoHe

[ember locust]

||And somehow they surprised us at the end of current chapter in 8.4, like wtf and how Sena is there||

[shrewd socket]

there's ppl who do tho

[main goblet]

i dont since some ppl ik do
including mpe

[somber egret]

streamer elf

[main goblet]

[ember locust]

I'm not going for that joke I was thinking about

[somber egret]

[main goblet]

[shrewd socket]

it's not a joke actually

that world's Ely is a streamer

[steep axle]

au one

[ember locust]

Ik it just I was thinking of a joke about a thing sent in the lore chan

[steep axle]

normal ely is kinda um

[plucky cradle]

perfect

[noble cobalt]

It’s kinda a foregone conclusion that dragoon is gonna be her best primary support but I hope HoHe will at least be her best 3rd slot 💔

[main goblet]

ely coded

[ember locust]

They're both perfect

[main goblet]

can depend on how she handles breach but mhm

[ember locust]

I mean she def could, but depends on breach and also on rime trauma

As HoHe somehow has rime trauma

[main goblet]

i think her rime is slow?

[shrewd socket]

in the end it'll be FDD PS/Flawless/FWS

[somber egret]

Rime Weather but the Boss is Stardust Type

[ember locust]

Rime is on ult state, plus her rime is partial

[main goblet]

fdd can help a bit but idt any new 8.5 boss would have that without having 8.5 ely being able to handle it

[noble cobalt]

Realistically I’m pretty sure her best lineup is just gonna be dragoon paws but it would be really fun if double Ely is optimal 😭

[shrewd socket]

see nothing wrong in that

[somber egret]

[shrewd socket]

oh right, PAWS should be also an option

[somber egret]

I'd love to use badum ely ely

[main goblet]

rime dps

[ember locust]

Cora is a given, but Helia ? Could be an option but not her best

[shrewd socket]

that's assuming LWE has shift tag

[main goblet]

at least ely fws hohe is possible

[ember locust]

Watch them do a Vita again somehow

[somber egret]

I mean streamer ely as dps

[noble cobalt]

I’m hoping she has shadow star and can support HoHe too

[main goblet]

hohe ely thele full ice

[ember locust]

OH BOI HoHe really needs it, Vita is slow and Senadina is huh...

Unsummonable

[steep axle]

maybe my HoH wouldnt suck if i did get another ice valk

[somber egret]

Time to kick out The— Lamp again

[steep axle]

HoH vita dudu is something

[shrewd socket]

"This attack is considered Rime DMG. Rime DMG is not count as Meele nor Range DMG and it cannot crit."

[steep axle]

ely supports ely and ely supports ely

[ember locust]

Dominant Ice Women

[steep axle]

i love ice and lightning sm we need more of them

[noble cobalt]

“When Elysia is on the team, increases total damage and rime damage by x% (independent)”

[ember locust]

We don't need anymore Light, we got so much Light WTF.. It's an overdose

[shrewd socket]

pink jesus cute pleasure stream

[prisma tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435687797626634241/1165058404428042350/silverwolf_justpull.gif

[ember locust]

Luna, Helia A, Sena, Teri, Vita, Helia... Just stop

No more lightning

[somber egret]

we need more
and make them world star too

ahh don't forget the yoyo

[shrewd socket]

real

[ember locust]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-gif-18219884

[shrewd socket]

WS dead in a ditch 🥀

[ember locust]

WS okay but no more light

[noble cobalt]

The way Thelema is the most recent ice and then the next most recent is… HoTr 💀

[ember locust]

We got way too much Light in P2, heck even half of the AOPs are Light

[shrewd socket]

Kira*

[atomic coral]

apho mei soon trust

[noble cobalt]

Oops

[ember locust]

They hate Ice

Or love it idk

[noble cobalt]

Pulled for Sena back in 7.3 turns out WoD is just fine without her and she’s not even the best breach provider for WS

Lowkey not even a proper WS breach provider because her breach only applies to valks that are actually protected by WS

[main goblet]

this made me look at this

[ember locust]

Ranks wise, S0 Sena is better than S0 Vita

[shrewd socket]

the only place where Vita is bis now is WS

[noble cobalt]

Technically also RoO

[shrewd socket]

which is literally nowhere

[ember locust]

5 light and 5 fire WTF

[ember locust]

And Cora Support

[shrewd socket]

only in Nirv, RL uses HoFi/VBm instead

[ember locust]

Bruh

[main goblet]

6 fire if u wanna include hofi

[ember locust]

VS 2 Ice and 3 Phy

sigh

Also types funny :

IMG : Dudu
QUA : Sparkle, Teri
Bio : PS, The Helia
MECA : Helia A, Vita, Thelema, New Cora
PSY : Coralie, Lantern
SD : Kiana FWS, Sena, Ely new, Songque

[steep axle]

img HoFin

[shrewd socket]

not like they make tons and tons of ice and phys weathers tho

[ember locust]

The original msg didn't included DKs

[steep axle]

i mean sd is a new type and needed more valks
mech dont need that many valks

[ember locust]

Only pure P2 valk

[ember locust]

And PSY neither btw

Though, IMG and SD need those

[steep axle]

img has like 5 valks total

[ember locust]

BIO too, BIO is kinda niche in type Idk why... While PS and Helia are really good

[steep axle]

wait lemme count

raven dudu HoFin HoO HoTr dudu and um

[ember locust]

Eden, Pardo, HoFi, HoTr, HoO, PE Dudu, Kidudu, Raven

[steep axle]

eden

[ember locust]

8 valks

Damn

[steep axle]

i dont even want to count main 3

sd should have 5 total with ely

[noble cobalt]

HoFi most hype Valkyrie ever now she just cast weapon active and leave field 💀

[ember locust]

Yup counting Adultseo

[steep axle]

my HoFin dps sucks i dont even know why

[ember locust]

And ult

[steep axle]

i failed to clear a rl sidestage

[ember locust]

HoFi is ass without Trio or RoO

[steep axle]

i have them

she still sucks

maybe its her affixes but idk

[copper shale]

lol

[noble cobalt]

Highly anticipated Valk for 5 years btw

[main goblet]

tbf types balance doesnt matter
the bosses shift btwn the relevant valks
it only feels important when u wanna bruteforce a weather u dont have the bis for

[steep axle]

she was fine without them in like ai HoTr team or smth but stuff happened

also im lowkey cooked im broke

if i get ely its a miracle

[ember locust]

I rich

[ember locust]

^^

[slim lion]

Skipping ely

[prisma tartan]

[ember locust]

I swear if I lucksack again in next patch

I would be the luckiest player here

[slim lion]

In before ai raises your pity to 2000

[ember locust]

Nah without joking I straight up : lucksacked FWS's and HoHE's new gears, lucksacked Helia into S2, lucksacked Dragoon valk

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530

I still have their boxes

[muted mauve]

the heck MiHoyo forgot to post the Ely gif on both miyoushe and bilibili but posted it on weibo

[ember locust]

"Little" indie company moment

[slim lion]

Piyo is coming after you

[ember locust]

Oh nah

https://tenor.com/view/rotating-skull-gif-24524852

[finite saffron]

noticing a pattern. underwhelming dkey -> new playable battlesuit

[abstract night]

Says the SS helia owner

[ember locust]

Piyo is coming after you

[unique scroll]

Has hofi and hohe dkeys not been good?

[finite saffron]

hohe not so good, hofi feels weaker to me maybe because my hotr is shit and only has her weapon.

hohe just doesnt do a lot outside of the one team she fits into unfortunately

one team variously positioned against maybe 3 bosses if i may speak out of my ass she bores me

[abstract night]

I mean HoTr...has a lot from her stigs

[finite saffron]

unfortunately i was 17 and broke and the other two were around the corner

i was lucky to have her

[abstract night]

:')

[glass nacelle]

Ely gift

[willow pumice]

whats that

does it give 28000 crystal

[glass nacelle]

u can't open it

[willow pumice]

maybe in the future can be exchanged for free SSS Ely

[slim lion]

Piyo already recognised me as food

[abstract night]

[twin dune]

Elysia info when

[twin dune]

5 mpe frags take it or leave it

[steep axle]

i thought it was a cake 💔 got excited for nothing

[ember locust]

More infos in a week, we already know that she's Ice GoI and SD valk with bow (as usual for bow)

[main goblet]

more for collection
sheep would def love that

[ember locust]

Ely or Cora reserves hmmm

[final locust]

so he was completely correct about potentially needing FDD

dem glad i pulled

[twin dune]

Worst case scenario i pull elysia and cope with hely pri or benediction

[final locust]

pls no if u cant afford wp dont pull

but it is CN anni. rewards should be beeg

[steep axle]

hell yeah copium weapon

i have a extra hare weapon for dudu for no reason

[glass nacelle]

[unique swallow]

Who's he

[final locust]

moriso

[unique swallow]

I mean no shit the new valk would want her lol, it was either gonna be grail or loa and cora's best in both specialisations

Doesn't really take a genius to figure out (and we only had one grail valk before this too)

[final locust]

i was just making a comment...

who shit in your cereal this morning

[zinc gorge]

wait is 8.5 anni patch?

[steep axle]

ye

not for us actually

[zinc gorge]

oh

[steep axle]

its like cn and old sea anniv

[zinc gorge]

pain

so no spending?

[steep axle]

there is

there should be

and we should get free stuff nonetheless

[cinder cloak]

I might be cooked without FDD

[final locust]

do you have anyone else for her?

since she's ice HoHE should be a good option. PAWS is good, FWS is good, PS, etc.

obviously wont be as good as FDD but still serviceable nonetheless

[cinder cloak]

I have all of those valks

[final locust]

you could probably just use any combo of those 2, we'll see what's good when V2 CN beta drops

[cinder cloak]

[final locust]

hohe has an ice buff for ranged attacks and new ely is bow so im hoping hohe is BiS 3rd support

i already did a comparison of the buff numbers across every GoI valk and it seems either HoHE or PAWS has the best buffs. but we dont know new ely kit buffs yet so it depends on the saturation numbers we see in her. gotta wait until CN beta

[steep axle]

i bet its badum ely (i dont have cora)

[final locust]

FDD is auto locked to the 2nd slot im sure. shes the only breacher. but breach isnt everything so i guess we will see

[smoky lintel]

she should, hohe is just a bit slow but her own dmg is quite noticable and her always being buffed with new ely should tip the scale and make her really good

she was good before PS and FWS were just faster/ we needed HC

[final locust]

yeah new ely being ice bow means her weathers should be ice/ranged. and she's SD so no typedown for hohe. really hoping this means hohe is best 3rd support.

[shrewd socket]

should be PS HoHE then

[final locust]

or badum HoHE

[steep axle]

ew no why suskiphang

[final locust]

fast rotation and good buffs

plus hitcount if needed

[steep axle]

sushang is like anything but fast

[final locust]

she's very fast as a support. literally just QTE WA ult swap out

[ember locust]

This Elysia is really gonna be brick, a really hard brick indeed, if she supports several ARs just like Vita, it's gonna be crazy

[smoky lintel]

if you cancle her qte with WA ult spam she's really fast

you can also apply her buffs with her WA which you can throw and then already switch to another support

[steep axle]

hope they patch that or smth i cant handle sushang being used

[final locust]

well if you pull FDD you may not use sushang

[cinder cloak]

[steep axle]

i have badum dudu ely heli

[final locust]

but new ely being SD could also mean badum best 3rd support for some/all weathers

[steep axle]

waiting for dudu to be used on a boss

[ember locust]

Yep, Songque is about to die

[cinder cloak]

please don’t be JD

[final locust]

badum and song

[muted mauve]

last boss was HoDom

[steep axle]

where

[smoky lintel]

i dont thinkt that's necessarily a bug

[final locust]

badum dps found dead in a ditch after 8.5 lol

but badum was never really meant to be a DPS. she's a support at her core i feel like

[cinder cloak]

[muted mauve]

look at the channel you're in???

[shrewd socket]

i think they just hate Sushang for no reason

[final locust]

they just made her a DPS because all p2 valks are dpses and support

[steep axle]

noway did dom really return

[ember locust]

Well not Badum since she could still have her own weathers, but Songque is definitely done for

[cinder cloak]

Me who pulled SS FWS

[final locust]

there's no weathers badum DPS should have anymore

[smoky lintel]

phys alien guard

[final locust]

all her weathers are SD, none really fire
she could have flux tank tho ig

[shrewd socket]

SD Sa

[final locust]

didnt badum topscore that last time?

[smoky lintel]

wasnt that taken by dudu lol

[shrewd socket]

no?

[final locust]

no that's MA

[steep axle]

BEST DAY EVER I LOVE MORE IMG PHY WEATHERS 😍

can we get otto back next or

[smoky lintel]

im pretty sure even in abyss it was dudu

[shrewd socket]

i said SD Sa, not SSS

[cinder cloak]

I’m in RL, so I don’t need to be worry about weather lol

[final locust]

idts

[steep axle]

maybe i should give up on the otto boss

[gleaming imp]

I don’t, especially since I don’t have that chop

[smoky lintel]

it was some rs/badum/jds shit but songque still topscored iirc

[final locust]

if new ely doesnt have SD detonation built into her kit there could be issues

[steep axle]

i dont have half the valks on this list great

[final locust]

badum might keep a bit of her boss profile

[ember locust]

Let me check

[smoky lintel]

that's the CN data from moriso's website

[gleaming imp]

I have 2 and teriteri aop

[smoky lintel]

and i'm pretty sure it was the same in glblul

[shrewd socket]

technically fixed with crit point not being at half of the HP bar

[final locust]

hohe?? this has to be MA

[smoky lintel]

weakpoint ?

are we joking

[final locust]

on Sa?

[smoky lintel]

tank

[final locust]

SD Sa?

[smoky lintel]

i was talking about tank

[final locust]

oh flux tank was RS before yeah

[steep axle]

tank

[final locust]

flux tank should be badum now tho because FDD buffed her more than dudu

[smoky lintel]

omg i just saw i responded to the wrong msg

[shrewd socket]

i said Sa not tank

[final locust]

[smoky lintel]

chat moved too fast lol

[vale granite]

I mean, it was RS's even with whel Vita

Afaik

[ember locust]

Flux Andrius

[shrewd socket]

yeah Flux tank is RS topscore

[steep axle]

ive been wondering who the hell FDD could be i thought it was badum for like last 10 minutes

[final locust]

vita has worse buffs than FDD and slower, no?

[steep axle]

its cora right

[final locust]

FDD = Behold! Fate-Defying Dragon = coralolibait

[vale granite]

Speed is a factor, true

[steep axle]

cant wait to see 11 coras take away my 5th spot on rl 😍

[vale granite]

Not 100% sure about how their Phys and Ele buffs compare though

ik Breach is the same

[final locust]

phybreach is also just kinda sucky

[shrewd socket]

FDD has more afaik

[smoky lintel]

breach is the same if s2

[vale granite]

I meant S2+ Vita

[smoky lintel]

before that fdd > vita

yeah

[steep axle]

vita return hell yeah

i might need to sleep

[shrewd socket]

investing on Vita now is shooting yourself in the foot anyway so

[final locust]

vita just kinda fell off a cliff

[steep axle]

i got vita on sparklel patch best decision ive done

[final locust]

she's still amazing in WS tho
if they give us anything WS

[steep axle]

isnt she also good with HoH

[shrewd socket]

[final locust]

sena better

[steep axle]

well if ely2 dont replace her

[final locust]

sena always better in WoD

no matter the rank, sena is just better

[steep axle]

i dont have sena

[vale granite]

Wasn't Vita better last HoHE cycle at like SS+

[shrewd socket]

same case as FDD, Vita needs ranks beat

[final locust]

no

vita should never be better
she requires fieldtime, sena does not
more thele onfield time

[vale granite]

Brb

[shrewd socket]

but here is kek bc Sena is older

[gleaming imp]

My queen vita is still relevant and mothering

[final locust]

what was last cycle for hohe tho?

[smoky lintel]

if you just insta SO vita needs no on field time

[vale granite]

Hellmaru

[smoky lintel]

hellmaru

[final locust]

oh yeah sena should be better there

[vale granite]

Vita allows you to SO faster

[final locust]

thele wants fat fieldtime in nirv

[smoky lintel]

~~ in 3 niches ~~

[steep axle]

i miss ice and lightning rpc

[gleaming imp]

Just use vita coralie together in loa

[vale granite]

Cuz extra ARI

For the second time I mean

[final locust]

iirc you dont need the SO tho in first phase

second phase maybe but idk

they should at the very least score similarly

esp a ranked sena vs a ranked vita

[vale granite]

It's double SO though

First on mobs, second on Hellmaru

[smoky lintel]

also vita > sena for jds

[final locust]

you can SO with or without SS vita on first phase, on second phase if HoHe is good enough she should have refunded enough ARI to get another SO within 3 stellar drains

[vale granite]

Only vs non-SD stuff afaik tbf

[final locust]

only for non-SD and jDS dps not relevant anyway

[smoky lintel]

topscore on last phys alien guard was jds/thele/vita

[final locust]

i mean phys alien should always be JDS

sena worse than vita there because she cant be a DPS outside of SO on phys weathers

[vale granite]

idts actually, lemme try to find it

When was the last cycle anyway

(with JDS topscore)

[final locust]

i think RS topscored last phys alien

unless whale ranks, iirc 9S JDS did better

[still condor]

que dps is so ass pls buff and turn her into a LoA lead

[smoky lintel]

first week of 8.2

[vale granite]

That's not JDS DPS topscore though

[twin dune]

I m in a very deep need of an ice dps

[final locust]

u have flawless benediction tho

[smoky lintel]

if ranked it is and i thought we were including ranks since we talked about whel vita as well

if S0 it goes to RS/jds/fws yeah

[vale granite]

I think it transitioned to S0 atp

[smoky lintel]

yeah then i disgress lol

[vale granite]

Did you mean whale ranks here too

[smoky lintel]

should be i saw a few refs idr the excact ranks of each valk though

[twin dune]

No thelema tho

[final locust]

do u have FDD

[vale granite]

If 8.5 can support WoD that could be the replacement

Keep your hopes high

[twin dune]

Yeah

[smoky lintel]

omg please let Thelma die

[final locust]

LMFAO

[smoky lintel]

i have everything for HoHe weathers except her

i can't handle this anymore

hoyo don't fumble this

this is your chance

[ember locust]

Nuh

[final locust]

i dont think a weapless new ely would be better than a 4/4 theleless old ely

[twin dune]

Welp i wanna get all ellie anyway soni m getting her

Waifu over meta

[final locust]

typically you can get away with weapless when using the valk as a support, but as a dps it's not happening

[smoky lintel]

even as a support it's quite noticeable just not as huge

[gleaming imp]

Please don’t, I literally invested into a SS thelema

[twin dune]

Ik this pain my sushang uses oblivion down

[smoky lintel]

also depends on the valk weaponless thele bricked in both dps and support

[final locust]

my PS uses nocturnal stealth lolz

[twin dune]

Not the best but i want ely

[still condor]

no this would be deserved, wasted crystals on a non p1 🤢

[vale granite]

Maybe you'll learn why ADV is ass this way

[smoky lintel]

that's why ascensionscam

[still condor]

fake p1 nostalgia bait fan

[vale granite]

Also that, ye

[still condor]

folded for some weirdo from p2

[final locust]

i have sushang's weapon
just not the right sushang

[gleaming imp]

[twin dune]

I use oblivion down for the PRI attack stat and 35% tdb

[final locust]

i use stealth for 10% tdm to team

[cinder cloak]

[cinder cloak]

same

[gleaming imp]

I got thelema for my ely since she needs thelema

[cinder cloak]

[atomic coral]

you can still use thelema for the rare ice raven appearance

[desert lily]

With HLWE, now we can see how PAWS does as a GoI Support

[abstract night]

new ely has breach

Ely Ely Thelema

[gleaming imp]

I’m excited for new ely, she gives me nostalgia seeing a new ely suit after so long

[desert lily]

Doubt they do back to back breach support

[abstract night]

Hence the

[desert lily]

Fair enough

[abstract night]

It was also a joke lol

Not being serious

[atomic coral]

we had two qua valks back to back, anything is possible

[desert lily]

Drya just delulu

[abstract night]

7.7
7.9

Not exactly back to back

Its back wall back

[desert lily]

Vita split that

[atomic coral]

more than usual

[abstract night]

M-more than usual!?

[desert lily]

Teri, Vita, Spork

[abstract night]

We always get 1 quantum valk

[atomic coral]

we usually get just 1 qua per year

[desert lily]

Yeah that

[abstract night]

In a
3.X (SP, SN, VG)
4.X (FR, Nyx)
5.X (HC)
6.X (VQ)
7.X (Teri, Sparkle)

[abstract night]

Or that

[desert lily]

Sparkle wanted to invite herself in

[desert lily]

Gave me a thought of her SO rot though-

[abstract night]

I wish teri supported LoA :(

[gleaming imp]

Release after songque, songque supports loa, teriteri doesnt support loa

[desert lily]

She is pretty much Sena but QUA

@fresh latch
Check pins

[fresh latch]

huhh

YESSSSS

THE QUEEN IS HERE

[muted mauve]

It being 5⭐ feels wrong

[desert lily]

Stamina item?

[muted mauve]

No. Just collectible

[desert lily]

[final locust]

this is what 8.5 spending event looks like?

are we allowed to theorize what valk will be put as the card/stamp or is that speculating on unconfirmed content

[gleaming imp]

Need a word stronger than mother

[ember locust]

Could be the same format

[final locust]

MOMMY

[steep axle]

theory is ok i belive

[final locust]

i want mod to tell me

[slim lion]

"Speculation based on confirmed
content is acceptable, whereas
speculation based on unconfirmed
content is not. Fan art based on
unconfirmed content will not be
exempt from this."

[final locust]

so no? since its kinda unconfirmed

[slim lion]

I mean feel free to but don't get overboard with it too much

[gleaming imp]

I predict instead of a valk it’ll be songque aop since she’s a khia now

[final locust]

speculating which valk will be there is fine, yes?

[ember locust]

That's a good question as to which valk they could put there if they do so

[final locust]

i think it might be HoHE since new ely is coming

ely in spending event with ely
pretty fitting imo

[slim lion]

Yes, don't think there is an issue since some speculated for last one, again just don't get too overboard with it that some lurkers gets confused and take it as real info

[final locust]

so nothing like "it will" or "it is"
okay got it

[slim lion]

Mhm!

[gleaming imp]

I hope the patch has a s rank selector dorm box from log in so I can get PE Dudu

[ember locust]

That's a possibility.

Can also be a valk that could get a DK if they release a DK, from the ones who didn't get a DK : HoO, HoTr and HoRb

[final locust]

or if HoRb gets a dkey it could be HoRb stamps in there
i think ely with ely is fitting, maybe HoTr card/HoO card? could be LV/FoV too

[slim lion]

Hov too-

[gleaming imp]

I would like hotruth stamps, my S0 hotruth needs ranks for my SSS hofin

[ember locust]

She got one though

[slim lion]

It's not a dkey

[ember locust]

?

[final locust]

HoV doesnt have a dkey yet

she's the oldest valk to not have a dkey

[ember locust]

FoV would be funny considering she's in BP

[final locust]

that's why i suspect it could be HoRb, HoTr, or HoO depending on which gets a dkey (if one happens at all)
FoV and LV are possible, or maybe even a pt2 valk, but i don't think the latter is super likely

[slim lion]

Hov and flamecision don't have dkeys unlike what a lot of people assume
It's just pri-arm

[ember locust]

I do remember that HoF didn't get one

[final locust]

HoV at this point i don't think will get one

[ember locust]

(Rip though... Idk why they chose HoFi)

[final locust]

her kit is far too outdated for a dkey to do anything imo
unfortunate because she's actually a cool valk with pretty cool gameplay, and one of the most hyped + meta-shaking valks ever. missed opportunity to get one

[atomic coral]

couldn't powercreep lantern yet

[slim lion]

Let this poor girlie dream

[final locust]

i mean HI3 has some decent mileage left. all they have to do is a kiana dream where she remembers being HoV for some reason and boom HoV new suit or dkey

[slim lion]

...true

[ember locust]

I have to agree with Skirklover though

The valk itself is way too old to even support the changes she could get

She would literally need a tons of boosts just like HoFi had big stats%

[slim lion]

I am self aware art

[ember locust]

Yeah. I mean we got FWS that way

[final locust]

LMFAO

i think HoV fans know she's too outdated to get anything. idk why hoyo decided to ignore her

[ember locust]

I guess it's also too late for HoF anyway

The battlesuit is like... 4 years old

For HoHe, they could have done something and they did it

For HoF, the situations seems kinda tricky

One of the reasons being that Lantern was supposedly made to replace HoF

[slim lion]

We know
We just dream

[final locust]

replace??

she was never relevant in the first place to be replaced

[ember locust]

Oh you know, to replace the type HoF was : Fire PSY

Just that

I didn't mean that Lantern was anywhere good

[final locust]

i didnt mean lantern was anywhere good either

[final locust]

but lantern being HoFs replacement is likely inaccurate

they probably forgot about HoFs long before lantern

but technically she was still the most recent psy fire

so if fire tank ever came ig she may have been used(?)

[ember locust]

I'm pretty sure someone already tried to use HoF on Tank now

It's doable

Just not the best

[final locust]

sparkle allows her to double ult which is kinda big ig

[ember locust]

Anyway, two of the most probable valks to get in there would be HoRb and HoHe.

There's also HoO and HoTr but their case are.... A little special

[gleaming imp]

I still don’t get why hofin dk didnt buff hotruth too like it does HoO it makes hotruth feel behind in terms of being updated other than 3pc stigmata addition

[shrewd socket]

buff in what sense? she's the support on the team

[gleaming imp]

Buff hotruth support

[shrewd socket]

for what?

[gleaming imp]

Anything really

[final locust]

hotr support got buffed

the tiniest support buff in existence lmfao

[gleaming imp]

The set up

[gleaming imp]

Manifestating lots of freebie pulls

[feral epoch]

hope so

[prisma tartan]

@modern flame

[modern flame]

She will be mines

[glass nacelle]

Qixi festival art

[muted mauve]

Artist: https://www.miyoushe.com/bh3/accountCenter/postList?id=103433478

It's fanwork

[glass nacelle]

[muted mauve]

It literally has 【同人】on the title

[steady granite]

aug core + dkey could save her, but they'd have to remember aug core is a thing

[final locust]

aug core
funny

[steady granite]

I miss those

back when I started, aug roza was still somewhat relevant and the other aug a-ranks were recommended to get for newbies

new players have no excuse to interact with that system

[desert lily]

Drive Kometa being one?

[desert lily]

For around that time

[steady granite]

prob stupid question, how do they repost those when they're not posted on the artist's own timeline?
it's not on twitter or bilibili either

their most recent post on weibo is a repost of the official post with their fanart

what kind of black magic is this

[muted mauve]

Commisioned fanart

Or they simply ask them if they are official CC

[final locust]

i want new ely's official name to be
Hi~♪ Magical Love Fairy ♡
😭

[steady granite]

kuro is bit more open about commissioning artists, I feel like I'll never get used to "thanks xzy for the art!"
there was one time where they got someone to draw Xiangli Yao but the art featured npc we haven't seen before and it got deleted soon after (it's still one of his best arts ever drawn, hands down)

[final locust]

google translate says it's Hi ♪ Love Wish Fairy ♡

[muted mauve]

You want it to be wrong?

[final locust]

why would that be wrong 😭

[muted mauve]

妖精 is Elf

In Elysia context

[final locust]

i like Hi~♪ Magical Love Fairy ♡

Hi~♪ Magical Love Elf ♡ would be cute too tho

[steady granite]

elves and fairies aren't that far off depending on which mythology you look into

[final locust]

i REALLY want her name to be fairy lmao

it would be so cutesy

like, elf is cute, but i more think christmas when i think elf

when i see fairy i think cutesy little fairy

[steady granite]

well, that's a you-thing
personally, I can't wait to see how the German TL will butcher her this time

[final locust]

Miss Pinky 😭

[muted mauve]

Fairy is the ELF

[final locust]

but elf is called ELF

they should make ely elf her best asop

i dont even have elyelf but just more cutesy value to her

impossible for that to happen tho bc elyelf buffs are fucking awful

[steady granite]

ely elf was meta for a while, just invent a time machine and enjoy the simpler times

[final locust]

elyelf was meta simply because the alternative was WE

her buffs are straight ass

historically ice has just been shafted in this game

like ice has never been appreciated enough
i hope my new ely doesnt suffer this same fate D:

[steady granite]

be dark seele
have just 1 battlesuit after however many years
be destined to never get another one
it's ice

fate worse than death

[final locust]

and qua

fucked from the getgo rofl

[desert lily]

HLWE being SD is a start

[final locust]

who the fuck is HLWE

[steady granite]

streamer ely

[final locust]

call her HMLF

[steady granite]

delusional

[final locust]

because Hi~♪ Magical Love Fairy ♡ is best name

[desert lily]

I'm just going off the rough translation for now

[prisma tartan]

HLWE insane

[final locust]

Hi~♪ Love Wish Elf ♡ also doesn't make sense grammar-wise

[nova osprey]

Ill just call her hi

[steady granite]

based

[solar surge]

on the one hand, I'm out of crystals trying to get Coralie hammered

on the other... potential for four Ely on the same team (Hi-Love, HoH, MPE, ELF)

[final locust]

what team should i use with hi

[prisma tartan]

she is an elf

[final locust]

some big feelings you got there @shrewd socket

[nova osprey]

Fdd fws probably

[steady granite]

have you considered the fact that Chinese is not English

[final locust]

i think it will be FDD hohe cuz hohe has a specific ice ranged buff

[muted mauve]

ELF is EN localization

[final locust]

yes that's why i know Hi~♪ Love Wish Elf ♡ isn't her name in my language

[steady granite]

yet

[nova osprey]

Hohe slow i want fast

[desert lily]

FWS for SD
HoHe for Ice

[final locust]

hohe also does a lot of damage and won't be held back by TC or fire weather/non-ice weather

[final locust]

P*regrine sword for hitcount

[steady granite]

did you forget the different combinations people tried to make for sparkle's suit

[final locust]

yeah i dont really remember much about sparkle's release

[steady granite]

well, TLDR is that they weren't that far off to official EN, but it was still different and imo ended up sounding bit more natural

[final locust]

so basically what you're saying is

Hi~♪ Magical Love Fairy ♡ makes the most sense in english and therefore is her name

[steady granite]

no!

[somber egret]

Hi♪Love Wishing Elf♥

[steady granite]

ai gets me

[nova osprey]

How about we forget about the rest of her name, and just call her hi

[somber egret]

[final locust]

doesn't roll off the tongue very well

[nova osprey]

[final locust]

but still a good one nonetheless
i like that one too

[steady granite]

slight changes in names are super easy to forgive, compared to some other stuff they're doing

[final locust]

Hi~♪ Miss Love Elf ♡

[steady granite]

but she won't be a fairy, I'm betting a mcflurry on it

[final locust]

hand it over

[muted mauve]

Tbf. Sparkle was basically just copy pasting the translation from HSR

[steady granite]

I don't play hsr enough to have opinion on that

[final locust]

Hi~♪ Lovely Miss Elf ♡

[steady granite]

where did the wish go

[muted mauve]

It's not lovely it's love

[final locust]

Hi~♪ Love-Magic Elf ♡

[steady granite]

you're just making stuff up now

[final locust]

yeah i am

[steady granite]

the mcflurry will be mine, mark my words

[final locust]

Hi~♪ Lovely Magic Elf ♡

[muted mauve]

Magic is actually not that bad cause magic has been mentioned elsewhere.
But also not correct. Mind you, "wish" is literally part of the description in her battlesuit introduction text.

[solar surge]

...so, it's literally "we got Ely from Wish" ?

[final locust]

Hi~♪ Love Wish Elf ♡

i can't come up with anything else that i like

[muted mauve]

.
MiHoyo translations annoying me recently.
Be it the really bad translation of Chapter 9 (expecially near the end).
The battlesuit name for Coralie.
And now what the heck they doing with Anima.

[steady granite]

anima being their new game? been avoiding it

[final locust]

why dont you like Coralie's suit name?

[muted mauve]

Circling back around.

[shrewd socket]

lost darklord reference just for the sake of calling her Something Dragon

[muted mauve]

Yes. Website just went up a hour ago.
EN translation literally changes all usages of "Honkai".

[steady granite]

blade being there bothers me a lot and I'd rather know as little as possible so it doesn't make me question reality as often, preferably I'd forget about it altogether

[final locust]

darklord? what was her CN name

[muted mauve]

Drops literally all the name references in her name.

[final locust]

what's her CN suit name

[somber egret]

EN text missing context from the CN ones

[muted mauve]

Anti-Destiny Dark Dragon (or Long)

References Anti-Entropy, Nahralab's title, Dark Lord Nickname.

Very least they could've said Dragonlord (mixing Dark Lord with Dragon) but they just straight up ommited it.
Fate-Defying is fine since it reads better in english.

[final locust]

Coralie 6626 Planck: Destiny-Defying Dark Lord: Descends!

[solar surge]

Anti-Destiny Dragon would've had everybody saying Coralie has ADD
"Dragon Lord" is nice and simple, I like it.

then again, what the honkai's a "Badum"? We're naming valks after sound effects now?
What's next, "Biff-Bam-Pow! Crime Fighting Detective" ?

[final locust]

google translate says ely's name is Hi~♪ Love Wish Fairy ♡

[glass nacelle]

Tf sampo recommend

[final locust]

but since you said 妖精 = elf in ely context

it is in fact Hi~♪ Love Wish Elf ♡

[desert lily]

The old timer

[naive briar]

I will have your mcflurry

[muted mauve]

Chibi.
Anima changed The Honkai / Honkai Eruption (need more context to say which) to "Sundering".

[final locust]

the sundering
oh hell nah

[somber egret]

[naive briar]

the heck? only checked CN JP brb

[steady granite]

I will prevail, my win is guaranteed

[shrewd socket]

it's kinda like EN translation team had something against calling something "Honkai" that isn't the title

[muted mauve]

game trailer is out btw

[naive briar]

weak WiFi, cannot

[naive briar]

doesn't matter I just want the mcflurry
Recent EN battlesuit names are out of my understanding so chances exist

[solar surge]

so, would Mei be Sunder of Thunder?
would Senti be "Sundere" towards the cast?

[final locust]

"Novarchs" is the term, i think

Novarch of Thunder, Novarch of Sentience

[solar surge]

...yeah, that's a bit less cool. Just makes them sound like the ruler of November.

[naive briar]

I saw Fracture
where is the Sundering

[solar surge]

though, at least the team medic would have Novarcane.

[naive briar]

thanks for saving my wifi
that is bad. why omit the keyword that is even in the game title

wait did they outsource localization

[shrewd socket]

[naive briar]

my JP HI3 player group is trying to eat the mons

do not the piyo
do not the mons

[somber egret]

nomnom

[muted mauve]

I wish I knew.

[rain isle]

Who dahecc is this high elf looking guy? XD

Idk why but I immediately thought of the LotR elves lmao

[somber egret]

Void Archive

[floral fable]

When are the skins revealed

[nova osprey]

When beta opens in a week

[willow crane]

WOWOWOWOWOWIWO SHES SO BEAUTIFULLL

Pfp manifested 🙏

[still vine]

[copper shale]

wow

anoteher ice

[nova osprey]

Im bouta suffer from lacking hohe ranks

Wait probably not, ill be in rl

[copper shale]

they have not reran symphony in forever

[nova osprey]

Phys hodom before that, im definately in rl

[main goblet]

[nova osprey]

Where did u even get that

[mild owl]

songque is so wife

[nova osprey]

[willow pumice]

bro is posting leeks

[mossy escarp]

kek

[vale granite]

Yes, and that's leaks

Yup

[somber egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1044143913360965654/1229130872431710248/thelema-songque.gif

[sonic wolf]

They really need to hire new abyss schedule guy... why are we playing same weather's everyday

[slim lion]

Better bring more p2 bosses that are as fun as raven

[sonic wolf]

There is a lot of boss and weathers that they can rerun

[slim lion]

True

[desert lily]

Not again

[gleaming imp]

My SS3 ely and SS thelema is going to slay these flops, easy +100

[full iris]

Not the fox again

[gleaming imp]

Should’ve pulled thelema ascension

[copper shale]

real question is will u be in nirv by that time

[gleaming imp]

[gaunt crater]

is badum kiana a good support for new elysia

and when do we know who’s in the new bp?

[desert lily]

Likely for SD weather

[desert lily]

And that- nothing much of that yet

[gaunt crater]

what seem to be her BiS teammates for what we know of now?

i have no pt2 characters except the two free ones i have some bp currency saved so i would be able to buy one. i only have HoHe new gear that’s it so i really have to build around new elysia

[nova osprey]

Its probably fdd and fws for the most part, unless hohe support takes some ice weathers from fws support

[vale granite]

Definitely FDD, and we don't know for sure about the second one

[desert lily]

Probably

[gaunt crater]

FDD was sushang?

[vale granite]

We don't know how good PAWS is as a GoI support

[gaunt crater]

sorry i’m so out of the loop atm

[vale granite]

No, Coralie

[desert lily]

Dragon Dark Lord

[vale granite]

Sushang is PS

[gaunt crater]

ah yes i can’t pull for her

fws is kiana badum?

[vale granite]

Considering that both new Ely and HoHE are Ice it could be her as well

[vale granite]

Yes

[desert lily]

Yeah

[vale granite]

On Ice cycles at least

[gaunt crater]

it’s pretty likely she will rerun cause of the new skin right?

[desert lily]

I'd say that for Ice

[nova osprey]

[desert lily]

Only JDS and VBm

[gaunt crater]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-gif-17665855225105354985

coralie

[vale granite]

We'll learn everything for sure after a week

[gaunt crater]

is the current astral op her best one? or should i not worry about pulling anything

[desert lily]

There's 3 outfits that got teased
JDS and VBm are ones we can easily guess
The other- not so much

[vale granite]

Chenxue? Yes, but whether you should get her in the first place depends on your goals

Because AOs don't do much below Nirvana

[gaunt crater]

my goal is to make the most perfect team for new elysia

[vale granite]

Well, you alr fucked that up by not pulling FDD

ig you can grab her on a rerun

[gaunt crater]

i have 50 pulls saved and i have 23 pity so i can guarantee elysia

[desert lily]

FWS probably better than PS buff wise?

[gaunt crater]

well.. RERUN! i cannot risk it since i’m so close to my s-rank

[vale granite]

iirc it's the opposite
FWS is faster tho

[gaunt crater]

fws rerun isn’t anywhere yet right? it was coralie and reign solaris?

[desert lily]

Damn

[vale granite]

The diff is minor

[nova osprey]

Fws goated

[gaunt crater]

was reign solaris baby durandal?

[vale granite]

Yes

[desert lily]

Yeah

[gaunt crater]

oh and HoFi equipment

[desert lily]

Though I believe she's the lowest on the list of GoI support

[gaunt crater]

yes let’s hope thelema comes into bp so i can finally have her and just run full ice even if its not ideal

[nova osprey]

We will probably need her once a phys goi comes

For shield break

[desert lily]

True

Can still run PS also

[nova osprey]

Runs both because shield+hc

[desert lily]

Well if a Phys GoI does released
I'll likely to have to do FDD and PS support

[young grail]

We have new valk now?

[young grail]

Welp, gonna skip dragolie

And cope that she doesn't need the previous two valks

[desert lily]

Idk about PAWS
But likely FDD

[young grail]

Fdd?

[nova osprey]

Coralie

[desert lily]

Yeah

[nova osprey]

She will definately be bis for ely

[young grail]

[nova osprey]

The 2nd support is probably between fws and hohe

[desert lily]

FDD being the designated BiS breach for GoI

[young grail]

It's rule of thumb to not back roll or something like that yeah?

[desert lily]

Yes

[young grail]

Oof, sorry Ely you'll be underperforming

[shrewd socket]

just pull both

[young grail]

I don't think I'll have enough for both. I'm at 60 pity and 6k crystals

[fringe prism]

Is 8.5 the anni patch?

[somber egret]

CN Anniv

[abstract night]

Ely³ can suck it up then atleast in rl

[shrewd socket]

no Ely³ demote to g game

[abstract night]

Nty

[zinc gorge]

so uhhhh just to be on the safe side anything not on pinned is considered leeks right

[smoky lintel]

yeah

[zinc gorge]

lovely

well lets hope another ultra bis goi support shows up after coral

for now my shiny new ely will have to settle with tuna and herself

[nova osprey]

Cora is the ultra bis goi support

[smoky lintel]

i doubt we'll see any breach GoI support soon lol

[zinc gorge]

im "hoping" shaddap lemme cope for a second

[mild owl]

haha missed the breach support lmao

[gaunt crater]

8.5 goes live on cn in 3 weeks right?

[muted mauve]

4

[novel elbow]

8.5 is same bp or a new one ?

[naive briar]

same forever

[steep axle]

hi people

[dreamy pendant]

Carv when do we get more news on next update?

Was it 4th of September? I forgor to put it on calendar

[muted mauve]

<t:1756983600:R>

[dreamy pendant]

Thanks a lot

[muted mauve]

why Italia