🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[final locust]

oh so its basically confirmed

[ember locust]

The moment you see that the patch dates aligns with anniversary + the keychan, it's almost a given at this point

Most Popular char of the licence + Anniversary was always, is always and will always be a duo in a gacha game

I mean nothing is known yet but the signs are showing little by little for sure

The other candidate would be Seele seeing what they show us officially but even like that, nothing is known and it's not even sure it would be her at this point

[shrewd socket]

waxing and flawless ≠ new release

[twin dune]

From what i know there s a summer event comming on cora s banner where elysia becomes cupid elysia.... Doesen t that remind u guys of badum-

It s the same thing again. Kiana in a dream. Kiana fights snake. Kiana evolves

Elysia in... Idk?? Elysia fights herself. Elysia evolves

[shrewd socket]

spoiler that

[ember locust]

Ofc

[gleaming imp]

I just want more p1 in p2 since I think there's not enough

[abstract night]

We have enough pt1

[gleaming imp]

You can never have enough p1

[abstract night]

7.7 8.0 8.1 8.2
7.8 8.1

Im tired of pt1

[gleaming imp]

If I'm lucky then I will win again if 8.5 is a p1 Valk so p1 will get shilled again

Just 9 more days to find out

[abstract night]

But u arent pulling new valks basically :(

[final locust]

tfw we just got our first p2 valk since 7.6 in 8.3

[abstract night]

Tfw?

[final locust]

that feeling when

[abstract night]

Ty

[abstract night]

Im so happy about helia

Shes so fun

[copper shale]

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[mossy nimbus]

and still no fu hua

[solar surge]

technically, Hua would never be a p2 valk, since she was a p1 char
still, New Hua would be great

[still vine]

she's p0.5 since she's from PE

[main goblet]

aww so cute

[muted mauve]

She got fired from her job and turned into a marketable plushie

[solar surge]

Fu Half ?

[still vine]

uh sure?

[still vine]

what job

[solar surge]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-impact-elf-elysia-gif-26360121

[desert lily]

Ely Elf

[naive briar]

wish they made Ely bigger. size ref

[copper shale]

【谁的青春？明日香0秒终极区ss灯31946，伤害占比72%-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/tZXcQBk

[naive briar]

wth

[ember locust]

Elfy Healthy Elf Ely

[naive briar]

Jobless Ely

[rain isle]

[sharp bone]

surely i'll be safe going into v8.4 right...

[main goblet]

absolutely!

if 8.5 is anni u can affort it as well

[sharp bone]

is there a new Dkey being released in 8.4?

or new astral op

[vale granite]

No

[vale granite]

Yes

[sharp bone]

k, lets hope we dont go to pity on everything 🙏

[main goblet]

[vale granite]

It doesn't look like she's worth getting at S imo

[vale granite]

But SS is pretty big

[sharp bone]

i get cause chenxue is hot

[vale granite]

Ofc it doesn't matter unless you're in Nirv

[vale granite]

Fair

[main goblet]

so if hoyo makes fun of me and i get cora + wp without being able to buy the dkey box what do i do 😭

[sharp bone]

though i wish we got this form

[vale granite]

S2 Cora ig?
Lemme double check

(it'll take a while)

[main goblet]

its alr take ur time

[vale granite]

Ah, Chenxue has crit rate buffs, you probs don't wanna be missing that for your sanity's sake xdd

That's assuming they eventually release a Phys GoI and/or RoO char tho

And more initial ARI is still nice ofc

[umbral spoke]

crit rate?

[abstract night]

Gosh darn it

Ill pull chexune in 9.0

[umbral spoke]

man i honestly can't wait for tomorrow

[vale granite]

S2 Cora is extra Ele/Phys taken for teammates (not herself) + TF skill

[vale granite]

Not proper crit conversion tho

Just +27%

[abstract night]

Isnt teri 28%?

[main goblet]

and if they dont (doubt) ill only have que to use it
nice nice tho, ill also see how my pulls go, ty

[velvet dune]

DK Box is 28k xtals

Should be doable with S0sync1 No?

[main goblet]

depends on my luck tbh

its all over the place

[velvet dune]

Do you already have Low pity or not enough xtals?

[main goblet]

the thing is, if my luck is ass my 8.5 pulls (if anni) wont be fun but i cant control my luck and ill get fdd + wp anyways

[main goblet]

i have enough but if 8.5 is anni something will be sacrificed or i cope hard
if no anni im good

i do wanna go for nirv bf 8.4 so i do need fdd

[velvet dune]

I mean i have 90 pity and like 57 on weapon so i'll Hit the 100 pulls Minimum while trying for coralie + weapon alone

[main goblet]

i have 80 until for valk, 60 for wp

and enought dorm pulls for spending but not enough for anni if i use it

[velvet dune]

But i will also go for SS Astral op so i'll hit the 40k mark too

[main goblet]

i see

ill prob only get chen if i get giga lucky on cora

[velvet dune]

Its only 100 Mats

From dorm

[main goblet]

lemme check the table again

25200 + dorm pulls look nice if i pull early

otherwise 28000

[velvet dune]

I feel like If Ely is physical she will 100% need chenxue to crit otherwise why else does Chen give crit to both but we also really need a new ice valk

[main goblet]

hmm its uncertain for now

[velvet dune]

Then you have to be really lucky

[main goblet]

new valk can be seele too

[velvet dune]

Yeah ofc

[main goblet]

can be anyone

[main goblet]

mhm

my wp pulls are funny

[velvet dune]

I have never gotten weapon within 40 pulls

Its always like super low pity

[main goblet]

my valks pulls are eh except for my s2 paws

[main goblet]

😭

[velvet dune]

Like single digit left

Its such a pain

I really Hope i'll be lucky tomorrow too

[main goblet]

used to have that...
i mean i might be cursed again
since ps things are slightly chilling
my vita wp + waxxing was a fking suprise tho

rest is wtv

[velvet dune]

Thats where it lowkey started for me to Go downhill

[main goblet]

[velvet dune]

3 pity Vita , 4 pity Vita weapon , and like 2 pity waxxing

It was soooo Bad

They took all my funds

[main goblet]

my thele pulls still haunt me 😔

i was so close to skipping

[velvet dune]

On the opposite thelema was my luckiest valk pulls

Lol

[main goblet]

we really are mirrors of each other huh

[velvet dune]

Yeah

[main goblet]

[velvet dune]

But tbh i would save my dorm pulls for 8.5

I should prob start saving dorm pulls but with how little we get its like

[main goblet]

i only have 25 (next patch will give some and maybe i get lucky in the weekly box + armada) but if i dont use them ill save

or maybe 26-27 cant be bothered to check

[velvet dune]

I Had to use mine bc i was missing 1 valk (the forgotten Rita)

And i finally got her this patch

[main goblet]

😭

i would like apo for er crystals + i have her fit

[nova osprey]

We get 9 per patch assuming 8 week patchs

[main goblet]

when will wt be updated..

[nova osprey]

[velvet dune]

From where?

[main goblet]

theres the shop, and chances with the box n armada
dunno the rest

[velvet dune]

Armada is so rng

[main goblet]

mhm

[nova osprey]

Armada shop is 2 monthly so 4 per patch, 3 from dorm shop, and 1 from the weekly homu box every 4 box so 2 per patch

[velvet dune]

Wait Every 4 Box one is guaranteed?

[main goblet]

yeah

[velvet dune]

Wait dorm Shop ?

[main goblet]

i have to open the game to check

[velvet dune]

Im going to be honest i never actively noticed that Shops actually give them , guess i buy them passively and spend them without thinking

[main goblet]

[nova osprey]

From the wiki

Took me a while to find because i was searching homu board instead of homu hoard

[grand viper]

Homu board

[glass nacelle]

Help

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

Fund me chenxue tks

[plucky cradle]

gib me comeback funds pls

[glass nacelle]

[mossy escarp]

Me t15 or smth kek

Sirin bad

[glass nacelle]

Siren in 2025

[clear vigil]

[zinc gorge]

is it just me or are there actually a lot of returnees these days

like damn my armada be reaching that 25 crys in like 3 hours after server reset

meanwhile around like 2 weeks before we were barely able to hit it in the first day

[copper shale]

prob just u, my armada ded af

none of the peeps came back

[willow pumice]

Because of You*
*you=ely

[prisma tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/elysia-dead-elysia-elysia-punch-elysia-dies-mei-punch-gif-26544098

[zinc gorge]

okay i am starting to think that getting helium was a mistake

like shes fun to play her dmg (and a certain other aspect) be veri beeg and all

but the pink jseus

[prisma tartan]

skip doggo

[zinc gorge]

and ppl (yes moriso im talking to u ) speculating that coral be her general bis

[willow pumice]

99.9%

[prisma tartan]

shit

[zinc gorge]

and now i have 50 pulls going into 8.4

and i am supposed to pull for 2 back to back full gear valks

and great chenxue has crit rate increase as well

[steep axle]

forget BiS pull bc pretty lady

nice life between a3 and rl

[zinc gorge]

from what i've seen with que if ely were to be a phys valk then i'll have to pull for chenxue as well or ely just gonna return to ice dps again

[steep axle]

p2 really needs another ice valk

its just thelema and HoH

[zinc gorge]

[vale granite]

You don't want Ice cycles, did you not see Hellmaru and Kasumi

[zinc gorge]

thel is gret

[steep axle]

i dont have her so

[vale granite]

Tbf Kasumi can be a Fire cycle as well

[zinc gorge]

i have both so me veri chill

[steep axle]

i dont think i did kasumi fire once in my life

[zinc gorge]

i mean unless u have lamp then why would u go for fire kasumi

[steep axle]

it was HoF weather kinda

what the hell was i even using back on 5.0 actually

[zinc gorge]

well technically every tuna works as well but like yeah

[steep axle]

ever so great me skipped HoF

i got her earlier this year

[zinc gorge]

but hof pretty

[steep axle]

i dont fall for kiana bait

[zinc gorge]

i would in a heartbeat

well i remember hor being quite a decent option

[steep axle]

i never built HoR

i think i was bruteforcing HoT

[zinc gorge]

who was the lightning supp back then again

[steep axle]

fish

[zinc gorge]

me forgor

oh right fsh

[steep axle]

AE fish but i still dont have ae

[zinc gorge]

im getting concerned

[ember locust]

She's great but still another addition is welcomed really

[nova osprey]

What if, the addition is another thel

[ember locust]

If it's Thelema or Elysia, sign me in FR

[craggy sentinel]

10/10 if she’s the same level of gooj as thel

[nova osprey]

Another thel, another wave of evade bald weathers tho

[ember locust]

Goofy big DPS

[muted mauve]

I wonder if 8.5 event will be part 2 or if they are going to setup another event valk event

[glass nacelle]

Has this event ended

[muted mauve]

define ended

if you mean like there's no cliffhanger then yes

[gleaming imp]

I just skip evade and brute force

[steep axle]

how did ches get muted

does this mean i can ping and get no consequences

[desert lily]

[winter dirge]

No you cannot, Captain

[desert lily]

Cabbage

[abstract night]

Ai chan, do you care about me

[steep axle]

[long forum]

What do y'all plan to use the synergy box on? Assuming i can afford it, i'm probably going to use it on new Coralie, just cuz she's the new RoO so if she's like Vita she'll get used EVERYWHERE

[ember locust]

The thing it's either that or the DK box. Plus the syn box cannot be used on Waxing Moon (DLC HoFi) and Benediction Flawless (DLC HoHe).

If you miss DKs, it's literally better to for the DK meta wise

Otherwise you could go for among the newest weaps for syn box or just get the pulls

[long forum]

Aw, is there not enough tokens for both boxes? Shame, but i'm missing Xuanyuan Sword and SoE so i might as well nab those

[ember locust]

The max of token is 1,1k through gacha without top-up. Otherwisd if you want both boxes, you're gonna have to whale eventually

[ember locust]

Also XY Sword is among the rarest DKs in the game rn as it doesn't come back as much as the other ones

Plus SoE:W might eventually come back either in another box or just come back in perma BP

As 7T was added in the current patch (8.4 for CN) in perma BP

[long forum]

That's true. I don't understand why they never added XY to some shop or another

[rain isle]

I'm tempted between the DK box or pulls. I'm only missing the brick lol

Well, and sync levels on p2 dkeys

[ember locust]

At this point, you're better off with more ATK

really

[rain isle]

Ye fr

But the pulls

Well, I guess I'll know how many points I'll manage to get from pulling tomorrow and go from there XD

[ember locust]

You're seriously gonna miss 10 Perma ATK for all valks for pulls ?

[ember locust]

Plus it's simple, the max is 1,1k token without top-up (40k crystals in limited banners + 20 pulls in dorm)

For DK Box, you need 25,2k crystals+ 20 dorm pulls (700 tokens)

You would need 900 tokens for all 6 pulls which is about 36,4k crystals

The ratio is simple

You're better off with DK Box/Syn Box + Prisms than just pulls and prism AT ALL

Plus you're getting bonus pulls in the patch

And that's without taking in account 8.5 patch landing on CN anniversary, which (might) means eventually more pulls given

[twin dune]

That s it? 2k crystals?

Meaning i can pull till i get the box cheaply and then save

[rain isle]

Tru

Well, box it is then

[ember locust]

Your reading skill issue is showing

[ember locust]

R e a d

[twin dune]

Ah 25.2k

can i even reach this ammount if i m going into 8.5 with 5k.crystals

[ember locust]

Be regular and do the content and you will be good

[mild owl]

not while coralie banner is still up

[ember locust]

That's why he said if going into 8.5

He's already giving up

[mild owl]

i assume it was a typo since we dont know what's in 8.5 spending event

[twin dune]

Sorry yeah i meant 8.4

But considering it s 25k crystals i think i might just get valm + weapon and start saving and praying

now imagine 8.5 doesen t have a spending event

[ember locust]

0% for 8.5 to not have a spending event, it literally falls while CN anniversary

[twin dune]

Usually cn anni has big stuff right

[ember locust]

Yes

[twin dune]

Yeah i m spending all my crystals praying i get coralie and weapon early abd then i save

Rip 10 attack for me

[tired mountain]

since I'm at 53k now, seems safe to spend on BFD and still have 45k for 8.5

[rain spindle]

so we get mini-spending this patch and spending on next?

[willow pumice]

likely

[still vine]

it's patching time in a few hours, right

oh about 1 hour

[muted mauve]

bunch of merch reruns

[main goblet]

oo
is the sena one an actual yoyo

[grand viper]

yes

[main goblet]

ooo i wish i can get it

[grand viper]

stea

[main goblet]

hru??

[grand viper]

I assume that means "how are you?"
in that case, I am doing good

[main goblet]

mhm! and good to know .

[still vine]

i've got like 45k, should i grab calorie or just save for the giga spending event next patch and continue coping for seele

[mild owl]

you should be able to get both but if you want you can just wait until 8.5 is revealed

[rain isle]

Cute friends 🍞

[still vine]

i do like calorie

i don't have helium though

[main goblet]

vita, hofi is fine tho
dk bout nirv tho

[still vine]

nirv is cringe anyway

[main goblet]

[ember locust]

Waiting a week for potential valk teasing 💀💀, loong

[noble cobalt]

If my only WoD supps are Ely Lamp and Sena, will dragoon be worth it to run as a support even if she doesn’t have the tag?

I’m pulling her even tho I don’t have Helia or Vita

[ember locust]

She will only trigger WoD leader bc she's RoO (support specialization) which is kinda useless since you already have 3 characters who can use Harmonized Star.

You could pull her but that means you would have to look out for Helia and newer char eventually

[nova osprey]

Just new char mostly, ignore helia

[desert lily]

Yeah

[nova osprey]

[winter pumice]

wtf

I pulled helia

[ember locust]

Yes because backpull is shit

[desert lily]

Still a chance 8.5 is another GoI but who knows

[nova osprey]

Its fine if u pull on release, shes good, just not worth the backpull

[desert lily]

Yeah

[ember locust]

Plus

Anniv is soon

Literally next patch

[desert lily]

Next patch after this one once maintenance ends

[ember locust]

Yes

[noble cobalt]

Oh, I just thought that because Ely is so mid that Coralie might have stronger WoD buff

[desert lily]

Ely mid without Thelema support

[ember locust]

Just downloaded the files, now I just need to wait

[noble cobalt]

I hope next patch is double S rank RoO GoI that would be perfect for me

And it’s about time for another double S update

[desert lily]

We'll have to see what Hoyo does

[ember locust]

She's mid bc you don't have Thelema. Thelema is mandatory for HoHe DLC

[noble cobalt]

I’m kind of concerned that hoyo will never do double S again though

Technically they haven’t done one since trio

[mild owl]

that doesn't affect how bad her support is

[nova osprey]

Thats good, my savings wont suffer

[noble cobalt]

Yah I meant replacing Ely support with Coralie since her buff is so bad

[ember locust]

That, plus if they do, it would be DK + new valk anyway

[mild owl]

i'd try both next wod weather (never)

[noble cobalt]

Does WoD even have a dedicated weather, I thought you just run them in certain type counter

[nova osprey]

Every ring type does

[desert lily]

WoD and WS are becoming less frequent in Abyss

[ember locust]

Eeeh even like that, Cora won't do anything bud

[mild owl]

it does have a dedicated weather but i just meant weathers where you run wod

[nova osprey]

For wod its shadow star

But they rarely run it because wod chars are old now

[ember locust]

It does but weather are rarer

[desert lily]

Shadow Environment

[noble cobalt]

Ohhh I guess there just hasn’t been shadow star abyss in forever I forgot it exists

[desert lily]

Not exactly the same as Flux, Echoing, and Extreme-

[nova osprey]

And resonance

[desert lily]

Echoing is Resonance

[nova osprey]

Then whats roo weather

[noble cobalt]

Is hoyo chilling out with the flux environment spam in 8.4

[nova osprey]

Probably, but they will spam extreme instead

[desert lily]

Mainly Sushi flux

[nova osprey]

Ah roo weather is oblivion

[ember locust]

8.0

[noble cobalt]

They gave WS and WoD 3 valks and then abandoned them LMAO

[desert lily]

Stellar Crown

[noble cobalt]

I hope that’s not the precedent going forward because LoA has 3 now

[desert lily]

I guess that's what RoO weather name lol

[nova osprey]

Oh i missed that part

[noble cobalt]

I mean imagine by the time we have 7-8 astral rings, the older ones will get one weather a year

[nova osprey]

[desert lily]

Yeah him

Wonder if he'll run again?
Or maybe another one with Stellar Crown

[noble cobalt]

Especially if the patches remain 9 weeks forever, WS and WoD will never see content again 💀

[ember locust]

Well yeah : FWS, Sushi and Dudu

[desert lily]

Certain Valks will though as support

[nova osprey]

Ws has sena helia theresa and sprokle, thats 4, wod has thel, lamp jds and hohe, thats 4, roo has cora cora hofi and bita, thats 4,

[desert lily]

WoD and WS also do too without counting DKey and A rank

[main goblet]

rather the opposite actually bc hoyo will run out of teams to shove in a patch

reruns as well

[ember locust]

Actually, that would be 2 for RoO

[desert lily]

True

[noble cobalt]

Yeah but it’s more fun/fulfilling to use them as the dps

[desert lily]

Seems like a pattern, they do 3 Valks for a AR then move on to the next

[noble cobalt]

I think Songque enjoyers would prefer to wipe out abyss with her rather than her be on Badum’s leash

[nova osprey]

Idk, personally jds a lot more fun as a support than a dps

[desert lily]

JDS slow dps, hearing from others

[nova osprey]

Nah fws all the way

[vale granite]

In LoA definitely

[nova osprey]

Fish skip so good bro

[vale granite]

Smh

[desert lily]

I believe?

[main goblet]

leader jds burns years off my life
how did i use her like this bf???

[noble cobalt]

As a Sena player I would definitely love to use her as something other than a slightly better than Vita wheel of destiny bot

[vale granite]

Just ain't as good as using her in LoA

[desert lily]

Ah

[ember locust]

Proof they moved on for GoI and RoO lol

[nova osprey]

Shoulda been in nirv when resonance gaymax dropped

[still vine]

[desert lily]

Yeah

[noble cobalt]

And even then WoD is buns so being the best WoD support is not even a feat for Sena

[main goblet]

tbh u can use her in side stages or er if u want

[desert lily]

Sena actually is better than Vita if both are S0

[noble cobalt]

Ik, I said she was the best WoD supp

[ember locust]

The P2 supports are freaking buns in ER

[noble cobalt]

Also yeah Sena is painful in ER

Where are her iframes

[nova osprey]

Hua2, thats her iframes

[noble cobalt]

Why is she not permanently invincible like every p2 valk

And has 100000% resistance to interruption

[ember locust]

Thelema certified best WoD valk ever

[noble cobalt]

ANYWAYS the bottom line is if Ely is the next GoI Valk hoyo needs to make HoHe her best support because I think a lot of people are tired of the badum PS slop

[ember locust]

[noble cobalt]

Literally pull a Coralie and plug some insane buff into her kit if HoHe is in the team

[ember locust]

Problem is that HoHe is a little slow

FWS and PS are quick

[nova osprey]

I like fws ps tho

[noble cobalt]

I think it’s realistic for them to just make it so HoHe’s ult immediately readies after her charged attack during AR

as a GoI support

[desert lily]

Hohe buffs are also kinda mid

[nova osprey]

Thats, already how it works

[mild owl]

hohe buffs in goi are good

[noble cobalt]

It’s not immediate, you have to wait for like 1 entire second

[mild owl]

better than the other two shes just too slow for it to be worth it

[main goblet]

she got the slop sd virus 😔 (jds n badum gameplay is also squishy if u mess up)

[ember locust]

For WoD and LoA, in GoI she's actually good

[nova osprey]

Yea that 1 second is covered by the time it takes for ca

[desert lily]

Yeah ik, I got told

[desert lily]

Does good DMG but is slow ASF

[noble cobalt]

What I’m saying is that they add a passive talent to the new Ely’s kit that activates if HoH is in the team that makes HoH her definitive best support

Same logic as Coralie with her paws talent

[ember locust]

What is the common point between Songque and HoHe ?

||Saved by their support on their last AR support||

[noble cobalt]

Was HoHe even saved by GoI, she’s not even best 2 supports

[desert lily]

Don't know if they'll do that tbh

[desert lily]

Kinda
She's behind Badum and Sushi

[noble cobalt]

I think it’s time to let someone else besides Badum control the meta why is she best supports for WS LoA and GoI

[nova osprey]

Shes there if u need her, but most of the time u just fws ps

[ember locust]

Ya know former valks are not design to be best supports forever. Even FWS and PS will be replaced in GoI one day

[nova osprey]

Because she is the face for hi3

[desert lily]

RS is the lowest for GoI support

[nova osprey]

[ember locust]

Ya know former valks are not design to be best supports forever. Even FWS and PS will be replaced in GoI one day ^^

[desert lily]

I know

[noble cobalt]

I think for nostalgia reasons it would be fine if there was an exception 1 time and HoH was just definitely the new Ely’s best support forever

[nova osprey]

One of them getting booted in 42 min

[desert lily]

FDD is BiS for GoI

[nova osprey]

[ember locust]

Helia momentum

[vale granite]

Not really, iirc there are cases where you'd use FWS over PS

It's just that you don't have to have both

[desert lily]

Lol

[noble cobalt]

And also I feel like hoyo is actually reaching into the idea of making valks that remain best in slot options forever, I don’t see Helia being replaced in Dragoon team

[nova osprey]

Yea thats what im saying, one of them is gonna be dropped for fdd

[vale granite]

Ah, fair enough then

[desert lily]

Feel like it's boss dependant on who to use PS or FWS

[vale granite]

Yes

[noble cobalt]

Why do we call her fdd instead of Dragoon

[vale granite]

Because FDD is shorter

Also because of this

[nova osprey]

Less typing

[vale granite]

!faq fdd

[winter dirge]

FDD = Behold! __F__ate-__D__efying __D__ragon

fdd + xdd =

[nova osprey]

[noble cobalt]

I think Dragoon is funnier …

[desert lily]

Dragoon also not in her en name sadly

[ember locust]

Terryfing cat face

[noble cobalt]

Just like how I will always call her badum and never fws

[desert lily]

People use both

Badum and FWS

[noble cobalt]

And anyways even if they don’t make HoHe top 2 supports for the new Ely I hope that new Ely is at least best support for HoHe

And yeah that’s not a high bar to reach but whatever

[ember locust]

Vita going byebye, though we don't officially know whose the 8.5 vall

*valk

[desert lily]

I have doubts they will make another WoD support

[noble cobalt]

In my perfect fantasy they go HoFi mode and make it so MPE counts as an AR valk when new Ely is the leader and triple Ely becomes her best lineup

[main goblet]

thats up to u really, ppl mostly use the battlesuit abbreviations bc its easier to recognize
stuff like badum is still used here tho

[noble cobalt]

I mean they’re going to make a character with the shadow star tag eventually

Maybe not a dedicated shadow support but someone with the tag itself will come out eventually

[ember locust]

"I'm delulu" aaah answer

[noble cobalt]

I think it’s realistic that HoHe will be at least top 2 for her but yeah the triple Ely team isn’t happening

Because what I was thinking is that new Ely would have the ability to trigger MPE ricochets and HoHe phantoms by herself and then it would be all crazy triple Ely mayhem

But yeah that’s not gonna happen

[quiet fjord]

Tried Susannah on ER

Even with only 2/4 set

She has iframe on both charged and ult

[noble cobalt]

How cope is it to use A rank Coralie hammer on Dragoon if I really need to save next update and I don’t plan to use Dragoon dps since I have 0 of her support options?

So like purely support Dragoon

[nova osprey]

Then dont pull her at all

Not really reccomended pulling for a valk if ur not gonna get her wp

[noble cobalt]

I haven’t gotten a new Valk since badum

I need to pull her for my sanity

[nova osprey]

Then get her wp too

If u havent pulled since fws, u should have more than enough for both 8.4 and 8.5

[noble cobalt]

I only have enough for 8.4 because I was barely playing this patch… I guess I’ll just grab new Ely for collection purposes without her weapon and never actually use her

[main goblet]

terrible like other valks w/out their gear
even if the main thing about the weapons is dps, it can have other utilities too
so i would just skip

[kind atlas]

does new coralie replace vita? if yes in what comps

[desert lily]

I believe all of Vita's LoA teams

Ik she did with Flux Lantern

[kind atlas]

so better than vita in LoA team huh?

[desert lily]

You could use both if you want to but yes

[kind atlas]

just ask so that I can see which team line-up need to replace vita with coralie

also dps coralie still want vita and vice versa right? if then who's better 3rd slot old coralie or DK HoFi

[main goblet]

any works
mainly fdd paws vita
you can use hofi in any slot no problem, vbm has her niche and is a good option if ur missing any slot as well

[round niche]

when can i expect cn v1 beta?

[main goblet]

next valk pic in around a week from now
beta v2 in the third-ish week from this patch

[round niche]

Nicee

Mini spending event kinda sus. So im suspecting next patch gonna be big. Sorry coralie but im just a poor f2p huhu

[nova osprey]

Very likely to be big spend event

Because cn anni

[ember locust]

Almost certain it's gonna be valk + DLC again

[round niche]

Yup, not getting Coralie. Im gonna get you next patch.

[still vine]

it's time

uh ok then

2nd 10 pull and they do this shit

so uh how's her s2

[mossy escarp]

Turn off hax thx

[still vine]

no

wow only spent like 13k for s2 4/4, very cool hoyo

what should i buy with 450 spending event points

[sonic yacht]

Grass

[prisma tartan]

ssarG

[still vine]

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[prisma tartan]

i read the steam i tought bacon got hacked or sum

[abstract night]

To much money

[still vine]

calorie wants attack affixes, right

[vale granite]

Ofc

[still vine]

well time to start affixing, good thing i have 80k

wow gaming

[dense harness]

i have 19 left to valk, 34 left to weap, i might now save those pity for next patch valk depending on who she is, thos a burn dps would have been nice for my p2 line up

[still vine]

oh yeah i guess my scuffed dollar store sirin team is now even more useless

[dense harness]

in p2 so far i miss only Teriri and new Corali, i'll cope with sparkle when burn abyss will be there

[still vine]

[dense harness]

[still vine]

[dense harness]

i'll cope untill next valk i believe

i'll be able to do most abyss

i'm a RL sometime A3 player after all (in EU at that)

[desert lily]

S2 Dark Lord gaming

[still vine]

[dense harness]

the CN valk preview is about what week again ? 2 weeks before end of CN patch ? or 3 ?

[dreamy pendant]

I hate the design of her outfit but at least the animations are cool

Now I sure do hope I won’t regret pulling her in a week when next valk gets revealed like every time

[gleaming imp]

One more week now til Valk teaser

[ember locust]

I wonder whose gonna be next in supply shop

Like there's only 2 part 1 valks left that didn't go throught it

[vale granite]

FoV and HoRb?

HoRb dkey copium

[ember locust]

I mean there's a fat chance for her to get one

[abstract night]

I mean
Its not comfirmed at all

[vale granite]

Yes, but that doesn't deny that there is a fat chance

[abstract night]

Still

I want a HoRb dkey

Got no clue tho

[mossy nimbus]

i have a feeling they will both get a dkey at some point

[vale granite]

If FoV does I'll cry

[mossy nimbus]

why

[vale granite]

Or LV

[vale granite]

Cuz I don't have her 😭

[mossy nimbus]

i want her to get one so bad i love her sm

ohhh

i was the only person that pulled 4/4 fov on release i cant i still remember it

it was the patch b4 part 2

[short knoll]

running vita feel cursed in the new story

[mossy nimbus]

well if she gets a dkey she will be free from spending event most probably

• shes also in bp

[vale granite]

They could give her away, but she'll be stuck at S0 while everyone has SS+

[vale granite]

Cuz of how her debut banner worked

[ember locust]

Lol nooo

DK Banner you go

Like every other DK

[rain isle]

Frens

I wish everyone who's gonna pull Calorie the best luck!

[naive briar]

curse you

[ember locust]

💀💀💀 Wha

[feral epoch]

luck only in chenxue, else the usual

[glass nacelle]

bye ely

[ember locust]

For ?

Oh

[main goblet]

i would cry more bc i dont like hp mechanisms (in bf hp type ring) 😭

[main goblet]

pulls funnily went as planned
unfortunately that part of me that wants the skins in the gacha got no more excuses 😔

[ember locust]

I'm rich

Coralie Pull 1, Hard pity for gear (bc of weap) and Chenxue

[main goblet]

ohh u get chen

[ember locust]

I already got her

[main goblet]

nicee

cant get her, im saving rn

[ember locust]

I'm saving for 8.5 from now on

[main goblet]

[rain isle]

:(

I got Calorie and Chenxue near hard pity, but the wep in 3 pulls

[noble cobalt]

How do you get the 5 free supply cards 💔💔💔

[ember locust]

Wait saturday

[noble cobalt]

Dam…

[naive briar]

all hard pity no talk me

[rain isle]

[vale granite]

I mean, most enemies can't kill you at all

ig you would still need to either take damage or dodge attacks depending on how they would go with it

[main goblet]

yeah...
but in general low hp just gives me anxiety

[vale granite]

I prescribe you 5 ER weeks with Thorny Crown

Maybe I actually should rock that to make ER a lil bit less boring

[vale granite]

(Thorny Crown eventually reduces your max HP to 1)

[ember hemlock]

nb4 you forget you're fighting a boss that hits you for free no matter what you do.

[vale granite]

Are there ER bosses like that tho

• in P2 you can do a shit ton of dodges in a row

[ember hemlock]

btw, do we know if any of these going to be craftable soon?

[ember hemlock]

I think the bleed boss did

[vale granite]

The latest addition was Cez iirc, but lemme double check

[ember hemlock]

Carlo and Zeno were there too.

[vale granite]

Ye, Collodi is the latest

[muted mauve]

Homu World needs more stages.

[vale granite]

And they add stuff every 1-2 patches

[muted mauve]

there's like 12 different types.
Meanwhile takes like 60 runs minimum to get the emblem

[ember hemlock]

What do you think is the most/least likely from these to get added first?

I need 1 stig from each set, but don't want to grab one that might be craftable soon

[nova osprey]

Kiana probably wont be added

[main goblet]

😭

[nova osprey]

Its a herrscher first sig set, and none of them have been craftable by foundry so far

[vale granite]

They add the entire set at once

Or did I misunderstand

[ember hemlock]

the sets

anyways, yeah I think kiana is probably the safest

That's the last piece of gear I need for p1 trio

[vale granite]

Ah, me blind and I forgot that Reserve has different tabs for each slot xdd

[ember hemlock]

And then I only need her fkn dkey (which is rerunning again this patch)

[vale granite]

Hence the confusion

[vale granite]

I mean, you might as well rock her P2 set, it's better anyway

[nova osprey]

I mean, if u get her dkey, go craft her new set instead

[ember hemlock]

not without teh weapon

[vale granite]

P1 trio is cooked nowadays

So purely for funsies

[vale granite]

And ye, I meant that too

[vale granite]

P2 is like double the damage iirc

[ember hemlock]

:C

[nova osprey]

Oh u already have it

[ember hemlock]

I have so much of it

and no weapon

I hate the new weapon banners

[vale granite]

15 times better than whatever P1 had

[ember hemlock]

15x more stigs

[vale granite]

15x more hitting close to hard pity

[nova osprey]

If thats what it takes for wp banner to only require 60 pulls instead of like, 120 pulls, ill take it

[ember hemlock]

I don't like it.

I mean, I don't like it cause I barely play anymore so I can't afford the new stuff

but I still don't like it.

I really did prefer when the stigs weren't hard locked to the characters.

[vale granite]

That point is fair, but you wanted 4/4 in P1 as well

[ember hemlock]

I enjoyed getting stigs that powered up old characters.

[vale granite]

Trueing

[ember hemlock]

I mean, most of the time I played 1/4 or 3/4

[vale granite]

Wtf

I'm scared to look at your inventory now

[ember hemlock]

I mean, it's a lot of 4/4

cause BPs and stuff

Kira was still really cope

CE is 1/4 (wep)

[magic gust]

same tbh… let me be creative

I’m actually surprised they don’t outright merge the character and gear banners into one at this point

[vale granite]

That's intentional

So that peeps think "oh, I just need up to 90 pulls for the valk"

[magic gust]

oh right… makes sense from marketing view

[gaunt crater]

when is the livestream for 8.5?

[sage spindle]

Just a little over a week

It's gonna be worth it this time

[sinful river]

I’m excited, hopefully it won’t be a support character though

[smoky lintel]

p2 S ranks are both dps and support

[desert lily]

^

The A ranks are support only

[sinful river]

Just worried because Hoyo hasn’t dropped a full support for years now which is good because full support are boring

[smoky lintel]

that's because they won't drop a full support S rank again

[desert lily]

Yeah

Don't know if they really can with Part 2 characters

[smoky lintel]

it just wouldnt make any sense with how p2 team building works

[desert lily]

Yeah

One way they could do it is by making them be like VBm or VBs

[magic gust]

does anyone have any data on whether SSS Chenxue or S1 Coralie is “better” (mathematically speaking)?

don’t know yet what next patch will bring, but I think I’m gonna forfeit it, and thus may still pull something extra

addendum: no Vita, no Helia; but Kiana++ and max-signature smol Coralie; Coralie geared, SS Chenxue

[atomic coral]

you mean s2, a dupe goes from s to s2

[desert lily]

Yeah
Not a whole lot better really

[magic gust]

wait… it skips S1?

[atomic coral]

yes

[magic gust]

oh! a dupe gives 50 fragments?

[atomic coral]

yeah 50

[magic gust]

gotcha thx! then I meant S2

hmm then SSS Chenxue sounds better overall I think… would also be cheaper

[short knoll]

seem overkill unless you are nirvana+

[magic gust]

yeah, I’ll wait for news on what will be next patch… should be it Seele, I’ll save; should it be Ely I’ll go for one more Chenxue rank; should it be something else… I don’t know
no need to sit on the crystals if I’m gonna skip the next patch

[vale granite]

Come on lah, you defo don't need ranks at your investment level

If you are to spend them on smth just get another valk xdd

[ember locust]

Teammate is right, if you're not in Nirvana, you don't need ranks

I pulled Chenxue only bc I lucksacked on Cora so I was short in tokens for the DK box

Otherwise I wouldn't have done so

[atomic coral]

same

[ember locust]

See @magic gust

[desert lily]

I was still short on tokens after getting Chenxue and doing my dorm pulls

[ember locust]

Damn 💀💀

[desert lily]

I had to throw xtals to get 700 for box

[ember locust]

Ranks ?

💀💀

[desert lily]

All 3 banners

(not dorm)

[ember locust]

Ik but like you searched ranks everywhere ?

[desert lily]

Nope
Still got 700 though to get Xys sword

[magic gust]

thx, don’t wanna appear unthankful, but I don’t really play for meta anyways, so my priority is more on the side of “how do I keep what I already have because I like it, as longevious as possible”, and most valkyries I just don’t want

[vale granite]

Well, ranks don't extend a valk's lifespan much nowadays

[magic gust]

yeah, I don’t need, but I can

[vale granite]

If at all

[magic gust]

so there’s a chance

[desert lily]

Just some people get lucky with S2

[ember locust]

It just don't extend a valk's lifespan that's all

A year and poof gone

[vale granite]

Minor ranks won't extend it at all
I meant SSS vs S0

[ember locust]

Or almost

[ember locust]

No, now Part 2 valks are out of meta after a year, look at what happened to Sena or Lantern for example...

[smoky lintel]

strictly speaking they're not out of meta

niche ? sure, out of meta ? not really

[magic gust]

I mean… I get it, but even with no ranks I’m still sitting on Sena and also Lantern… if I’d have her ranks it’d be better for me so and thus I’m at least considering this for Coralie, hence was curious if someone knows whether Chenxuee SSS or Coralie S2 would be mathematically stronger for a Coralie team

[ember locust]

Well yeah strictly talking, since they're also supports

[smoky lintel]

not even only as as supports

both have BiS dps weathers

[ember locust]

Well Lantern's one will rerun eventually

Which one were Sena's already ?

I remember there was Guaymas

Light

[smoky lintel]

reso guaymas

[desert lily]

We have another fire tank this patch also

[ember locust]

Hence why I said that

[smoky lintel]

though iirc in RL badum was a pretty close or better contender

[desert lily]

I'm just gonna use FDD

[ember locust]

Same either FDD or Kiana for me

No Lantern moment

[desert lily]

FDD since she's S2 plus she has the most attack, my Badum use to but now it's FDD

[ember locust]

Reso Guaymas
Light Guaymas
SD Mech Swarm

I saw 3 weathers for now

[smoky lintel]

kiana was better at S0 on lightning guaymas

even in nirvana

[ember locust]

Indeed

SD Mech Swarm

The weather that ran one or twice

Then never returned just like Starless weathers

[still vine]

dragon calorie's voice lines are so cute

more energy than before too

[ember locust]

She's definitely more expressive for sure

Emotionally talking

[still vine]

[desert lily]

Yeah her tone is different compared to VBm

[still vine]

so wait what teams is she BIS for supporting aside from vita and helium

doesn't she replace vita in FWS team or something or do we just use both now

[desert lily]

You can use both
FDD has a passive for double RoO in LoA

[shrewd socket]

LoA

[still vine]

all of them?

[desert lily]

Though she mainly replaces Vita in LoA

[still vine]

do we replace anyone here

[shrewd socket]

songque

[desert lily]

Yeah

Though aren't PS and Badum better for RS?
Just like PAWS last patch

[still vine]

well i have no PS so wouldn't know

[desert lily]

RS, FDD, Badum then

FDD is faster than Vita

[still vine]

i mean nobody used vita for RS anyway

[smoky lintel]

idk if we even use fdd in RS team tbh

just wait until new RS boss and see

[desert lily]

True

[still vine]

i assume we still want songque for FWS team since she's mostly used for stardust stuff only now?

[desert lily]

Songkek for SD yes

[smoky lintel]

depends on the boss but yeah we barely use kia dps outside of SD these days

[ember locust]

Yes for SD content

[still vine]

[desert lily]

Might have to stick with Songkek since bacon has no PS or PAWS
Or FWS, FDD, Vita

[ember locust]

That would work indeed

[desert lily]

Idk how well RS can support LoA

[smoky lintel]

she's meh only good for andrius cuz of shieldbreak

[ember locust]

Well mostly for PHY weathers and bosses with shields

[desert lily]

Gotcha

[still vine]

i guess these are my current teams even though like a 1/3 of them are useless these days

[ember locust]

Shieldbrezk moment

[still vine]

sirin in 2025

[desert lily]

When most of PS' bosses have no shield or weak ASF shield

[ember locust]

Sirin was shit even in 2024 💀💀💀

Even in 2023 btw

[desert lily]

Dark Lord good

[still vine]

she was my only geared DPS until 7.3

[ember locust]

Corabased

[still vine]

[ember locust]

💀 She's the only char I regret pulling for

[desert lily]

Can't wait for Ignite Benares

[shrewd socket]

can't wait to finally be able to play an ignite weather

[desert lily]

When was the last one anyway?

[muted mauve]

I wonder how this anniversary cycle will work.

• 2 years ago we had the whole celebration with Luna. With the amusement parks and all the outdoor advertisement.
• Last year we had a bunch of Vita collabs. With the KFC one and the navigation app one.

How will this year be...

[abstract night]

Glad i never pulled her!

[vale granite]

Nothing + nothing

[cinder cloak]

I am keeping my expectations low

[still vine]

I could "play" it before but now I guess I can actually properly compete

RNgesus even blessed me with a double calorie in a single 10 pull so we should be good

[desert lily]

Double calorie in 20 pull for me

[still vine]

I did the discount 10 pull and got nothing then I did a normal 10 pull and got a double

so technically 15 I guess

[cinder cloak]

I might go for ranks on RS to complete the spending event

there are not any other banners that I want to pull on this patch

[shrewd socket]

that only leaves one option

[cinder cloak]

What option?

[shrewd socket]

saving

[cinder cloak]

I am good with saving

The Lantern skin will rerun

[glass nacelle]

Rerun with 1k6 bchip

[muted mauve]

All have been unlocked

Still a bunch of days to finish shop tho

I wonder what stage I can optimize more

Btw. My favorite stage got removed this iteration

[desert lily]

Probably don't matter which one to choose since it's more cosmetic

[shrewd socket]

and it's gonna reset when the event comes back

[muted mauve]

Knocked 3rd stage down to 45s
And can still be optimized alot.

Depends a bunch on leaving the fans early to minimize height gain

Oh in the first stage there's a skip that I can use

Can probably knock like 3s

[steep tide]

any news about 8.5 ?

[nova osprey]

Wait 1-2 more weeks

[desert lily]

Next week

[gleaming imp]

I’m hoping for p1 valk to end the p2 streak

[cinder cloak]

Thelema stamps in BP when

[smoky lintel]

you can barely call 2 valks a streak bffr

[main goblet]

she should soon be in bp with her wp n stamps

[cinder cloak]

[main goblet]

i dont think theres any other valk after fov that will be there... hofi is in reserve n horb gear was in bp
unless hoyo dont wanna follow release order

[nova osprey]

Suddenly jumps to eepy

[copper shale]

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[main goblet]

WoD be damned

[cinder cloak]

[glass nacelle]

Hod soon

[still vine]

[mossy escarp]

forgor its friday kek

[sonic wolf]

Wtf

Why are they rerunning the same boss for the 7855896 time

Don't they have another boss to rerun? Wtf

[novel elbow]

euphie will be happy

[main goblet]

fish skip part 5000

[versed garden]

Sa again

[naive briar]

be happy

[versed garden]

it's gonna be a monthly matricide reenactment at this rate

[desert lily]

Can at least score a bit better on Sa now

[naive briar]

dating pretty mars woman monthly

[untold tree]

How likely do you think it'll be that they rerun fdd for anni? Like on one hand it's anni so lots of reruns presumably but on the other hand she did just come out

Idk I haven't been paying attention to when first reruns tend to come about since the schedule shift

[main goblet]

hoyo kinda likes rerunning valks after their patch (theres small exceptions and who knows of paws will get one this patch)
and if she turns out to be good with the next valk then 100% chance

[gleaming imp]

She'd most likely rerun after the spending event

[willow pumice]

she will rerun but outside of spending event duration

[untold tree]

Worst case scenario lol

Will pray they are nice to us...

[strange crystal]

That's usually how it is. It was the same with Eepy Teri and Mini Dudu. They reran outside spending events.

[glass nacelle]

It's fixed

[mild owl]

fish skip 2 is fixed but not the upcoming fish skip 3

[untold tree]

This patch doesn't follow the pattern tho so I'm coping that next patch also won't

[still condor]

well helia hasnt rerun this patch yet, so if she does she will be after FDD and the spending event finishes

they gave the spending event reruns to HoFi dkey and dudu

[rain isle]

I wanna do the new chapter but I can't rn aaaaaaaaaaaaa

I wanna see p2 Seewe

[desert lily]

She still adorable

[rain isle]

She always is. Both of them are

[main goblet]

the evasion one?

[desert lily]

Machine gun probably

[main goblet]

oh yeah that is fixed

and og fish skip..

[desert lily]

Can still fish skip with evade I believe

[rain isle]

The fish will always be skipped it seems

[ember locust]

If they stick to what they did last anniv, they might not rerun her right away after spending

It depends on what they would do for the next valk

[desert lily]

Still hopeful for Dreamseeker Battlesuit

[ember locust]

Well not sure it would be during anniversary

||Plus it seems like Seele didn't even play a major role in the current chapter||

[desert lily]

||I got scolded by her||

[ember locust]

Guess we're defo in the same thing than FWS

[ember locust]

||We ALL got scolded lol||

[desert lily]

[ember locust]

[desert lily]

||Also we do get context for this behavior||

[strange crystal]

It looks like they still do not have new models ready for them 💔

[ember locust]

||Indeed though, we know that somehow Dark Seele is behind something. Plus Bronya kekw, that Bronya moment made me laugh, poor one was clearly praying||

[desert lily]

Lol

[ember locust]

||All we saw was the same usual drawing scene... So yeah not sure if they ever did models for the Seeles yet||

[desert lily]

We'll have to see next chapter on what they do

[ember locust]

||But it seems unlikely... For now with all things we know officially||

[desert lily]

||She does have a new model now so||

[strange crystal]

Even Einstein is still using her old model... which honestly look so out of place. I was expecting her new drip look.

[ember locust]

||Yup but I think it's doomed for Seele for now.

Right now, it might be just either DS or Ely but frankly I'm not optimistic about Dreamseeker being playable||

[desert lily]

We'll have to see next week

[ember locust]

||I think we're just falling in the same thing than FWS : event before playable||

||again||

[desert lily]

||But yeah Seele is off my list for now, Ely of whom's event ain't here yet is there now and DS but I guess I shall join Ely hype if she's Ice||

[ember locust]

||Well isn't there for GLB, already there on CN. Though I'm happy that finally the wait for the reveal will end soon||

[desert lily]

Also yay abyss-
In like 12 hours pretty much-

[glass nacelle]

Yes

[desert lily]

Fish Skip gone now

[main goblet]

free from fish skip day until someone figures a new one

[desert lily]

Oh god

[glass nacelle]

[desert lily]

Welp bye bye Fish Skip

[main goblet]

thats the final nail in the coffin,haha idk if thats something to be happy about or sad about anymore
im still sure someone will figure smth tho.. doesnt need to be fish skip

[desert lily]

True
I'm not affected since I don't have the fisher

[main goblet]

oh

[unique swallow]

Isn’t there still the evade skip

[desert lily]

Evade got patched

[gleaming imp]

Songquebad now?

[desert lily]

Only on non SD

[glass nacelle]

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Only 2 pts gap

[copper shale]

【怀念也回不到从前-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/z7gJFoQ

[glass nacelle]

2020 team

[ember locust]

[glass nacelle]

vitaover

[feral epoch]

bye

[steep axle]

vita good

[main goblet]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1QUbDzXEre/ where does she wanna go to

[muted mauve]

Did the survey not have any main story questions??

[shrewd socket]

pretend surprise

[muted mauve]

Only 790

[twin goblet]

Is there a write up of Chenxue anywhere?

I'm particularly curious if she's SS or bust or the S is useful (like Teri's was)

[willow pumice]

F2p shouldnt try to pull, not a lot of freeebies this patch

But for whales, chenxue benefits:

• For GoI valks, make SO rot faster since Chenxue give Shimmering Trace. Supports just have to use Ult
• Upgrade for RoO teams
• SS has tdm debuff, SO cd reduction, and ar meter after SO
• SSS gives ult dmg taken. Made for GoI team and Coralie since she uses ult a lot.

[twin goblet]

I'm a dolphin. I got Chenxue S early and can in theory get to SS if the S doesn't provide utility.

Thanks for answering btw. Huge fan of the YT resources you put out and use them constantly.

[willow pumice]

Ye ss asop is good stop for most spenders

And will probably rerun next patch anyway if you wanna pull more

[twin goblet]

KK, thanks. But is the S better than SS Dreamseeker for GoI/ROO?

Sorry, let me rephrase. The points above SS on your list hold for S, yes?

(little dense today)

[willow pumice]

above the ss bullet point is s-rank

i guess for RoO it depends what s-chenxue is up against (like vs sss teri ?)

[twin goblet]

S Teri and SS Dreamseeker

[willow pumice]

yea better

wow s teri

[strange crystal]

For GoI valks, make SO rot faster since Chenxue give Shimmering Trace. Supports just have to use Ult

Oh, only switch then ult during SO??? Dmn. That's a really noticeable upgrade.

Tempting... but I want to keep my crystals for HoFi outfit rerun.

[unique swallow]

it's nowhere near "really noticeable"

relevant grail supports that don't already skip their SP generation skill have short enough animations

like PS

[strange crystal]

Except my PS is currently weaponless. Does that mean there's no real benefit to get Chenxue right now compared to Theresa where she can double the SO?

[unique swallow]

how is theresa relevant here i'm talking about grail

[main goblet]

tbh u should make sure u have enough pulls for future valks to be 4/4 first
unless ur ps is a lucky pull and u decided not to get her wp or smth

also teri wont fix ur 3/4 ps

[strange crystal]

It was a random 10-pull last patch.

[main goblet]

hm you shouldnt be randomly pulling tbh
since that luck could have net you smth better

but its alr cant cry over spilled milk

[strange crystal]

I'm talking about the noticeable mechanics of Theresa doubling SO for leader.

You said that there's nothing noticeable for Chenxue

[atomic coral]

that's LoA teams only, this is grail

[strange crystal]

I got lucky with Coralie and her weapon this patch so I don't mind anymore.

[unique swallow]

i did not say that

[strange crystal]

I mean... I'm just setting a comparison...

[strange crystal]

Double SO for Teri, was a noticeable upgrade to me for LoA valks

I'm asking if there's something similar to Chenxue for GoI

[atomic coral]

double stelar shift you mean, not double SO

[strange crystal]

Ah yeah, stellar shift

[main goblet]

thats nice! but please dont bet on ur luck so much if u wanna be consistent with ur pulls esp if u want the best value

[strange crystal]

For GoI supports, I have S Kiana, SS HoHE, S Coralie right now all 4/4

[main goblet]

either way i still recommend valks over aop as long as ur rl or below bc the extra benefits that aops give dont matter in rl or below bc youll have enough dmg

[strange crystal]

Yeah, that was my mistake. I just wanted to lower the pity to scratch the itch cause I always reach hard pity lately and thinking that maybe I'll get Sushang since I don't have her yet.

[main goblet]

its alr, at least u hopefully learned ur lesson

its not that bad of a pull but its a massive wasted potential to ur future funds

[craggy sentinel]

no

[main goblet]

esp bc u cant even use ps in her dps teams and u didnt use her in her shill which lowered her value a lot compared to a new character in their shill period

[steep axle]

i get new aop lady for trio i heard she buffed fire dmg smth

well i need to do 28 more pulls first but whatever

[atomic coral]

buffs RoO in general, not just fire

[steep axle]

even better more vita support

[strange crystal]

Anyway, there's that. I'm not pure f2p btw, and I like to get Chenxue but just can't decide if I should keep pulling her that's why I asked. And the example given for support rotation was PS which I won't be using anywhere because weaponless unless bleed.

[craggy sentinel]

get ss chenxue for her to be actually good then

[main goblet]

dont tbh, at least the pity stays so its not a biggie

[strange crystal]

Specifically, I'm asking if S Chenxue will be good considering my GoI supports right now are Badum, HoHE, Coralie

[steep axle]

i have no idea what im doing i said i would get all GoI support valks but i alr skipped 2
at least i can make my trio work in rl

[craggy sentinel]

she’s literally the support for goi and roo so

[main goblet]

unless ur in nirv which i dont think ure?

[craggy sentinel]

but s chen is

[steep axle]

is smth wrong with S chen

[main goblet]

its about the leader not supports tbh

[craggy sentinel]

not that decent

using good over decent would be overselling her

[steep axle]

better than S teri for trio

[craggy sentinel]

woah no way, a roo aop is better than a loa aop in a roo team???

[main goblet]

usual aops not worth the value for rl n below players n the goodie buffs locked to ranks

[atomic coral]

kia elf is better than s teri for trio

[steep axle]

so um funny story