🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[still condor]

[oak yarrow]

hi3 beginner works hard and they finally got their 3rd teammate on their team and can finally retain rl after doing 10 hours of story in a row

then they demote because of 10 kmbs

[nova osprey]

[still condor]

are sp affixes meta yet

[glass nacelle]

No

[plucky cradle]

[muted mauve]

watch them add a "extra SP gained from ring doesn't count" exception to KMB

[vale granite]

They'll just add a cap to her ult

Doesn't that count as nerfing the valk tho

[golden comet]

Is kmb knight moonbeam??

[glass nacelle]

Just add "teammates who have new tag can share SP during SO" ez

But it's pretty useless, just meme team idk if they will fix

[gleaming imp]

F2P friendly game real since kmb is farmable

[slim lion]

Oh thank god I farmed KMB 2 patches ago

[oak yarrow]

cn recorded too early its gonna get patched before release

[gleaming imp]

But what about the f2ps

[slim lion]

Gone

Reduced to atoms

[oak yarrow]

blame cn

they need to learn ratting

[desert lily]

[slate elm]

hysterical

[quasi glen]

Wtf

[strange lintel]

Gimme Coralie in 8.4

[ivory trout]

Wudehell

[supple furnace]

nooo they will patch it

[willow pumice]

Doesnt seem that broken, and that score is just average. Prob will stay.

[supple furnace]

Nice i just like meme run tbh

[versed garden]

Hope it doesn't get patched, another meme team will be nice to play

[willow pumice]

Nvm 60% chance will be patched

[dreamy pendant]

DEVS KEEP THIS

PLEASE KEEP THIS

[gleaming imp]

^ need this to stay it's let's kmb shine again which = nostalgia

[willow perch]

I am going to ignite your entire city block

[desert lily]

[ivory trout]

would you make the video of it?

[willow pumice]

since you requested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOWs2beIPTc

[ivory trout]

ooh thanks moriso

[steady granite]

Cay leaking private convos was not on my 2025 drama bingo card

too bad we didn't get the good ending cuz khai was sleeping

the evil part of them, that is

shoot first ask questions later is always funnier to witness

[fervent hinge]

"what is this clickbait it's doing barely any damage"
"WHAT"

Well I maxed my positrons recently, guess they're useful again

Doesn't SN do that too?

[distant lagoon]

JDS also does it on ult

[fervent hinge]

Nvm thats mjolnir I threw that shit away sadge

[hard meadow]

SN has a cap on it

[fervent hinge]

Ah shame

[hard meadow]

For every SP consumed, boosts Ultimate's Total DMG by 0.5% (75% max).

[fervent hinge]

Booooringgg

[nova osprey]

Cant wait to do funny rl run with kmb

[fervent hinge]

Time to farm kepler

[hard meadow]

there is actually some delulu who think it wont be fixed instantly

[fervent hinge]

Why would they fix it

[hard meadow]

yea why

[grand viper]

instead of fixing it, just remove the cap on every other valk with ults that work this way

[hard meadow]

but all those valks are farmable

bad business

[grand viper]

watch them fix it in a roundabout way, by instead giving bosses a damage cap per hit

[hard meadow]

except songque

Casting Ultimate deals 66% x 6 + 166% ATK of Physical DMG. Ultimate can be activated at any SP, but will consume all SP upon activation. For every 1 SP consumed, Ultimate deals an additional 8.5% ATK of Physical DMG (1166% max).

[twin dune]

Since helia doesen t get a new operator should i pull teri op?

[willow pumice]

The asop will probably be in anni patch 8.4

Or is it 8.5

[short knoll]

8.5

[twin dune]

How much waiting for that one

What version even is this

[willow pumice]

8.4 around aug
8.5 around oct

Thats cn date

+1 month for us

[noble cobalt]

KMB one tap will probably get patched right?

[willow pumice]

meibe

[noble cobalt]

Also does anyone else feel like HG is the most... not unique AR they've made so far? It looks like LoA quickswapping gameplay again

Comparatively, WS and WoD were way more creative

[little ledge]

At this point, WS is also a variant of quickswapping

[noble cobalt]

Sure, but the resonance mechanic I feel is more creative than the team just sharing an SP bar and doing their normal gameplay as usual

I know that all 12 astral rings cant be all that original since theres only so much you can work with with the base Hi3 gameplay

[little ledge]

Arguably, WS is also "doing their normal gameplay as usual, just the reso explodes in background by itself lol"

[short knoll]

WS gameplay feel similar to p1 team to me, only WoD and RoO feel new

[little ledge]

RoO has no fixed gameplay though

[noble cobalt]

I just wonder what the other 7 ARs will look like if a few of them already are pretty uncreative

[little ledge]

Hofi is more Loa-like, Vita is more Wod-like

[noble cobalt]

And as far as I know, the support gameplay for HG is identical to the support gameplay for LoA

[short knoll]

real Roo gameplay is vita's

HoFi can't even work with Roo valk

[little ledge]

I think we can refer to ER signets for inspiration: we already have SP-ult, QTE and uhhh let’s say WA

The candidates are HP/Summons/Traumas/etc

[noble cobalt]

I think summon AR would be more interesting than basically any of the other mechanics they could make an AR around

I actually thought HG was gonna be a summon ar, most of the LoA valks + Ely had some kind of creature in their gameplay

Rice cake, Sus bird, Ely manta ray, and idk about dudu

[little ledge]

Krishnaboard?

[noble cobalt]

Maybe, I just think HG had a lot of potential to be a summon AR

[little ledge]

Mhm mhm

[noble cobalt]

and sushang not having a locked support tag for a trauma AR is diabolical LMAO

[little ledge]

That’s assuming the trauma ar exists, and even if it does, it would probably not work like we imagine it to

[noble cobalt]

I mean, can they go 7 more astal rings without making a trauma ring...

[little ledge]

I think it would be more of a custom status effect and when you fill the bar on an enemy you can proc smth

Not the standard traumas

[short knoll]

should be similar to how apho2 work, any 2 trauma = new debuff

[little ledge]

Maybe something will be time-related

Like postponing all numerical changes (your HP/SP/even AR, also HP on enemies) for a bit and then trigger everything at once

[noble cobalt]

that would be a cool idea for Senadina AR

[little ledge]

Maybe some AR will not consume the whole pool of AR Energy at once but will be like

"The more AR you have, the more the buffs, but you can consume 15AR repetitively for some effects"

Basically passive<->subdps AR

[noble cobalt]

I like the idea of having an AR that doesnt have extremely straightforward gameplay

like WS and HG there is basically no rotation flexibility you kinda just do the same thing over and over

[little ledge]

What is not straightforward though
Like, every mechanic and even team rotation by themselves are simple

[noble cobalt]

Like you mentioned having an AR where you can either build full intensity or continuously spend it for a different effect, it would be more dynamic than most of the current ARs

[short knoll]

idk, having that system doesn't mean the gameplay wont be linear

[little ledge]

This

[dry delta]

what the hell happened with KMB

[little ledge]

"Spending 1k SP all at once" happened

[strange lintel]

Can someone please give me the ref for this team for nirvana, I'm only scoring 740 rn 😦

[twin dune]

Yeah that s a very very long time.... I think i might just get teri tbh

[nova osprey]

Imma be honest with you, teri is probably gonna be worse that ss ds at supporting new ring

Most of teris dmg buff are locked to loa and roo

And the buffs that arent locked to those 2 rings are worse than ds buffs

[twin dune]

Honestly that s not that bad. I mostly use loa rn for everything not sure how holy grail s gonna be meta wise but still

[willow pumice]

theresa gives most initial ar so its not that bad even in abyss

[nova osprey]

Right i forgot about the initial ari

[hard meadow]

does dreamseeker even have more dmg

12% tdm and 7% tdt in stellar

[glass nacelle]

we will use teri in rl ig

[willow pumice]

seems so on paper

[nova osprey]

Theres an extra 3 tdt on her s recharge skill

[hard meadow]

no

her ss skill increases that 3% to 7%

gacha players smth smth

[nova osprey]

Oh i just cant read

[hard meadow]

well teri has only 12% edt and 5% tdt, both in stellar only

but yeah 24 initial ari

i think she will still pull ahead

honestly? maybe kiaelf will be better

depending on boss

[glass nacelle]

sss que has 5% lightning taken

and 10 ari after SO ends (if badum is in the team)

[nova osprey]

Surely they buff teri so her regen after SO works with hg too

[hard meadow]

why

just release new op

[nova osprey]

Temp solution until they release a new aop in like 5 months after helia release

[hard meadow]

shouldnt be more than 1-2 patch

but then again i guess 2 patch is already "like 5 months"

[nova osprey]

Yes

[gilded prism]

Kiana still got it

[strange lintel]

When is 8.3 update?

[naive briar]

3 weeks

[nova osprey]

6 weeks 5 days for glb

[strange lintel]

Do we have the exact date?

[nova osprey]

Just count 6 weeks 5 days from now

[strange lintel]

😦

[nova osprey]

Ask google about it

[strange lintel]

47 days from now on

Bruh i regret using paladin bp coupon in this version that I got from raffle event

V8.3 bp frame is so cool unlike v8.2 frame 😦

[nova osprey]

Surely another bp raffle soon

[strange lintel]

I know i won't win this time

[nova osprey]

[strange lintel]

New helia will be mine!

[nova osprey]

Meanwhile im cooked, unless i sniped helia in 40 pulls i will probably have to skip

[strange lintel]

Bruh i spent 131 pulls on sushang 😦

@willow pumice fund my helia pulls

[willow pumice]

you just need my blessing like this guy

[strange lintel]

Bless me, my lord

[willow pumice]

[strange lintel]

CREATOR PLEASE REFINE ME!

[strange kraken]

question will paws hoh and vita work as a team

[glass nacelle]

near beta disturbance

[plucky cradle]

paws

[smoky lintel]

it will theoretically work due to the fact that vita has the omniscient star tag it just wont be as good as having a third support with the support tag for HG, replacing vita with ps/fws/rs will prob be a better team.

[strange kraken]

yea its just that i dont have badum kiana nor sushang 😭

[smoky lintel]

what about dudu ?

[strange kraken]

her too i was saving for hoh dk and im f2p so

plus i just used all my xtals to get thelema 4/4 for hoh

[smoky lintel]

just being f2p doesnt mean you have to skip 3 valks back to back but that thelema prob was the deal breaker, anyway the team will be okay we just have to see how vita compares to other MR units, we also have no experience on how vita works in a ring that she does not have the tag for.

[strange kraken]

Well i also pulled for peachy spring but anyway thanks alot ily mwa

[strange lintel]

Can I touch paws?

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1dBVQzsEPJ/?spm_id_from=333.1391.0.0&vd_source=c1035cd5fc1445f1c0fc56010feb48da

vita op

[hard meadow]

[glass nacelle]

oh reuse map

look like 7 shus is placeholder

[plain veldt]

I usually count by myself and don’t trust this site

So by the end of this patch I will save 18650 crys and 5 foca cards

[muted mauve]

what

Current:

• Bear Doll ⬆️
• Fortunetelling Prop ⬆️

Next:

• Sushang Weapon ⬆️
• Hot Peppers ⬆️

[muted mauve]

@naive briar what the writters saying

[atomic vigil]

i saw a vid of KMB one shotting MA bosses with new AR in beta

is she actually coming back or is this getting nerfed rlly hard

[muted mauve]

probably gonna get changed next beta version but not like it's actually good anyway.
Time loss too big

[glass nacelle]

just meme team

[abstract night]

Aw
But like whats the harm then?
If its to much of a timeloss and other ...uhwell and if 2 actual supports are better then does it matter?

[glass nacelle]

imagine you use it in bosses with 2 or more phases (or 1 mob phase + boss)

and most abyss bosses have 2 phases

[glass nacelle]

At the moment it doesn't have much impact but in the future it's unclear

[strange lintel]

Ye just use it to get the estimate, ik I'll prolly get more crystals

[muted mauve]

too risky.
also giving a 8 year old farmable valk a nuke that works on every boss

[still condor]

what if they planned to give her the AR nuke when they made her 8 years ago

[abstract night]

Well it wouldnt work on that one physical immune boss
Right?

[desert lily]

You're no longer grey

[glass nacelle]

[desert lily]

Is this another AG?

[glass nacelle]

what's ag again

[desert lily]

Alien Guard

[glass nacelle]

it's new guaymas

[desert lily]

[nova osprey]

A new sena boss 10 patch after her release

[oak yarrow]

would be funny if it wasnt sena

[cyan badger]

Do those story mini-games for this patch and next need you to play story/have story? Or can I just play the mini mode to grab the rewards without spoiling?

[muted mauve]

Which mini-games? Space Ranger?

[cyan badger]

Yeah space ranger and the one coming in paws patch

[muted mauve]

Space Ranger spoils up to chapter 6.
Next patch spoils up to chapter 8 atleast, probably more but we don't know chapter 9 yet.

I recommend being up to date before doing side stories

[cyan badger]

Alright cool checked the notice and it said it won't disappear so that answers that too. Thank you

[final locust]

its resonance weather

badum songque sparkle you can get a bit of the weather buff

[oak yarrow]

would be funny if it wasnt sena

[final locust]

she may not depending how big the red bar is

if red bar too big she prob wont topscore until SSS

could do badum vita JDS too

they could also just give it fire res tho

to make it so badum wont do anything

[glass nacelle]

oh susannah ot is back

[short knoll]

dead

[abstract night]

Can I get a dupe?

2 ovt would be nice

...i think

[hearty turtle]

[abstract night]

....probably not

Exclusive.

Better than 10k asterite tho.

[shrewd socket]

lacking those

[nova osprey]

Lets goo

[willow perch]

lacking those

[still vine]

so where do we get that

[muted mauve]

Current:

• Sushang Weapon ⬆️
• Hot Peppers ⬆️

Next;

• Lying on workspace for 500 years (UP or Down)
• Phoenix Dumplings ⬆️

I think mihoyo accidentally copy pasted the enemies of stage 2 to stage 3.

Recommendations would imply it should be SD + Mech mobs not SD + Bio

Ok yeah. Issue is UI only.

[steady coral]

Y'all think Chenxue would become playable? Or become AstralOp?

Cuz I'm definitely going to pull her

[naive briar]

aop

[grand viper]

battlesuit

[glass nacelle]

or never released

[naive briar]

not enough playable slot even for main story with 9 week patches

[muted mauve]

there's enough playable slots for the 300th Part 1 Event suit

[naive briar]

I had my hope in HSR

[slim lion]

That
Is true

[muted mauve]

give me back my P2 cast.
keep the emotional moments high.
bring back the world as more than a set piece. (looking at you Ruimu)

[supple furnace]

[muted mauve]

Back in A Feast Sought In Data, Chenxue said she would act as Dreamseeker's operator. (same wording as AOp)

[supple furnace]

young chenxue playable, big chenxue aop yes pls

[naive briar]

this

[desert lily]

Dreamseeker Battlesuit and Chenxue AOp

[naive briar]

can I drool

[still vine]

no

[gleaming imp]

There can never be enough p1 suits

[still vine]

[steep axle]

Is that master abyss

[still condor]

no its the powered duo event

[versed garden]

Praying we get a double release of Dreamseeker valk and Chenxue AOp

[grand viper]

Starfall

[desert lily]

One could hope

[sharp bone]

is Cn patch out?

what happened to Coralie

[nova osprey]

Wait like 2 weeks 3 days more

[sharp bone]

zamn...

[willow pumice]

[willow perch]

[naive briar]

[glass nacelle]

dudu weather next cycle

imagine jizo

[small wing]

what's Helias best AOP looking like

at least till we get the grail style AOP anyway

[willow pumice]

sq for dmg, teri for faster so

[glass nacelle]

another otto

[willow perch]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-how-many-times-teach-you-this-lesson-spongebob-squarepants-gif-14501726

[supple furnace]

[fervent hinge]

[smoky lintel]

[desert lily]

[grand viper]

[gleaming imp]

Omg another trio use

[desert lily]

How well does trio even score on Phys Otto?

[gleaming imp]

Let me find my screenshot for it on last time it ran

Apparently I didn't take a ss of it, but I remember my score being 700+ or 720+ I think or 690+ I forgot, in RL

[nova osprey]

So basicly, its ass

[gleaming imp]

I had to mald alot though iirc since shield in p2 got in the way ar dmg output so I had to run paga m on my hoo

[desert lily]

[gleaming imp]

Since hoo dmg output was already low by weather iirc

[desert lily]

Is that Otto for 8.2-?

[gleaming imp]

Otto for 8.1 I believe since I remember doing it post hofin adv unless my memory is terrible

[smoky lintel]

Otto again this patch cuz RS rerun

[desert lily]

Fick

Sushi carrying me this whole patch with Badum tagging a long while Coralie being emotional support

[slim lion]

Incoming hov

Actually never mind no dudu

Can someone sponsor me for both helia and dudu

[winter pumice]

Durandal my beloved carrying once again

[still vine]

[gleaming imp]

Still waiting for tall p2 dudu

And hopefully she has that thing new helia has so that the character that unlocks it for dudu is rita since besties should stick together

[muted mauve]

still a week and a half until livestream

[naive briar]

playable sheep

[grand viper]

https://tenor.com/view/sheep-smile-gif-15001110547181879552

[muted mauve]

no news

[glass nacelle]

last otto (3/2025) : 523d
current otto : 519d

[smoky lintel]

[glass nacelle]

we can use sus support here

[smoky lintel]

the great dist decrease

[nova osprey]

Or just sus dps

[dry delta]

what does paws stand for

🐾 ??

[smoky lintel]

Planar Armament: Warped Spacetime

New helia battlesuit

[grand viper]

PAWS, more like Helio-V

[mild owl]

planar armament warped gravity

[dusky cradle]

pawg

[clear vigil]

[willow pumice]

New rs top score

[glass nacelle]

whel acc

[uneven birch]

Is there a new Divine Key on 8.3?

[willow pumice]

but only s badum s ps

[willow pumice]

none

[glass nacelle]

[somber egret]

kurowhel

[glass nacelle]

nah assaka's shield is weak no need dudu here

[supple furnace]

ouh sena

and ew p1

[glass nacelle]

bp advertisement

[supple furnace]

[steep axle]

what the hell why is suskip everywhere

[distant lagoon]

she fast + time freeze on stellar shift

[steep axle]

😔

suskiphang

[abstract night]

Does helia need sushang? 😔

Holy crap
Theres another paralyze weather

Aponia supremacy

Literally gonna apply for beta to use aponia

On those bosses early

[craggy sentinel]

seems like badum sushi is her bis

[abstract night]

Can I use Sushi-> HoH

[glass nacelle]

seem badum is bis for this ring not only helia
she is the only valk who can use ult first during arc and so atm

[glass nacelle]

and she has high buff

[abstract night]

...i should be able...assumingnothingchanges...use Helia Badum Kmb....

Or Helia Badum HoH

Right?

[willow pumice]

Ye hoh second best

[abstract night]

Wait really?

Is Dudu the worst?

[glass nacelle]

*3rd

i mean her buff

[willow pumice]

Oh ye 3rd

[willow pumice]

Yes but she has shieldbreak buff for that assaka but that shield is ass rn

Probably will be stronger in live, or just used in nirvana

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1LqVSzEE1H

[mild owl]

would syn 3 hohe be better than ps for helia

[glass nacelle]

ofc no

[mild owl]

le sigh

[glass nacelle]

and she has huge hit count

ely's advantage is that it's fast and doesn't get stuck on her cd ult because it is only 10s

[abstract night]

Darn!
I mean I could always run like paga M on someone or 3pc Mei right?

[atomic vigil]

nerfing KMB nuke makes sense but there are so many fun things u can do with the inf stamina bro

imagine infinite swallowtail ult..

[muted mauve]

Current:

• Lying on workspace for 500 years ⬆️
• Phoenix Dumplings ⬆️

Next:

• Antique Vase ⬆️
• ???

[tranquil vale]

What is this?
https://youtu.be/RyUGLrAxCdQ

[atomic vigil]

new AR has a goofy amount of SP

so u get stuff with older units like infinite burst modes and ults

could this actually be the new BiS for any old unit? like if u are one of those dedicated players that use their old character because they like them yk

[vale granite]

Only KMB nuke has a chance to be actually good from what I've seen

[gleaming imp]

Vke having charges for ult instead of just sp

[tranquil vale]

I have a problem. I never ever got Mjölnir in 6 years.

[vale granite]

Well, time to get on the grind

I assume it's in Exchange Shop

[tranquil vale]

Yeah. I think so.

I need to check

It's there

[vale granite]

You need Cleo B too

[tranquil vale]

I built it for years lol

[atomic vigil]

tiro finale ahh

i mean its rlly slow i heard so i doubt it will do much

[tranquil vale]

https://tenor.com/view/varg-varging-sqwidink-shploinking-shploinker-gif-4434114052330103936

[atomic vigil]

also having such an insane nuke on a really old character isnt gonna do hoyo much good

[tranquil vale]

Let's hope it doesn't get nerfed much

[atomic vigil]

fr bro

[muted mauve]

[ember locust]

White Comet having infinite bullets lol

[abstract night]

U do? D:

[vale granite]

Well, it gives 82% TDM when the enemy is Paralyzed

[abstract night]

I have cleos twin sister
Fuxi M

Which doesnt help kmb.

Gotta be fine in rl.......if it even makes it out of beta right?

[vale granite]

I don't think the strat makes sense in the first place in RL

[abstract night]

Sigh. It looks funny..but alas

[vale granite]

Just go to Nirv and do it there 🗿

[abstract night]

No.

[willow perch]

Do it.

If you don't I'm putting you on a course straight to exoplanet Kepler-452b

[abstract night]

Its my time.

Uhm but no

[abstract night]

Does helia work with lv and gd ? :D

[vale granite]

Yeah, but it's copium ofc

[abstract night]

Wait like actually?
Its not like badum
It can be decently used?

[vale granite]

Oh, wait, this is the CN channel

[abstract night]

Oh

...damn 😔

[vale granite]

Yeah, they gave up on P1 comps starting from Vita

[abstract night]

Im sure sparkle works

[abstract night]

It cant be like incredibly copium used?
Its just bad (like badum...cantevengettwocombos)

[gleaming imp]

Revive p1 by giving the iconic old p1 valks Stellar keys to appeal to the casuals and p1 boomer demographic of players

[still condor]

release p1 dkey
boomers come back
pull dkey
dont have teams for dkey
quit

incredible plan

[gleaming imp]

That's why they use the other p1 valks with dkey

[still condor]

Uh huh
Okay drya
Whatever you say

[gleaming imp]

Plus p1 boomers have all the p2 p1 suits like eepy teri up to sushang

[nova osprey]

Dry getting more delulu

[glass nacelle]

cute

[final locust]

its a meme only rn

obv it doesnt topscore anything bc it just takes rlly long to set up

[gleaming imp]

Besties

[final locust]

but its really good still lolz

[vale granite]

Ofc, but the other options are straight up terrible

[muted mauve]

Current:

• Antique Vase ⬆️
• Tea ⬇️

Next:

• General Arahato ⬇️ (maybe Toy Relic ⬆️?)
• Shades ⬇️

[glass nacelle]

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

domyabyss

[main goblet]

hi can someone tell me how much paralyse trauma does PAWS apply? or how consistent it is? just asking for any boss that require it as a mechanic

[glass nacelle]

ult 12
seq 3 3
teammates ult 9

[terse ravine]

👀

but just to say, LV and GD require constant weap skill to ez trigger both's QTEs, and PA doesn't do that.
HoTr GD would do, just not LV GD.
Or maybe LV SImp?

[glass nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3ocN7h4hgs

[muted mauve]

the lack of news is so weird

We still haven't gotten outfit announcements.
By last patch, outfit announcements came out right before beta and today would be patch bonuses + event introduction

[steep axle]

Does helia have part 1 support opinion

[copper shale]

p1 ded

[slim lion]

So how good is SS elysia with one dkey and a sushang for Helia
Surely not as awful

[desert lily]

Ely needs redemption Even though I don't have HoHe.

[slim lion]

Yea

[nova osprey]

No let her die

[desert lily]

[terse ravine]

It shouldnt be as bad or even better than Sushang, Ely's problem is just team synergy

Outside SO, it's hard to use her ult all the time.

[glass nacelle]

125 sp kek

[steep axle]

suskiphang i use only ely and kiana

i realized i have yet to pull a single p2 char all i do is get baited for p1 nostalgia

[gleaming imp]

My nostalgia wants her permanently alive

[slim lion]

Listen I didn't invest into her for nothing

[slim lion]

Thing is
I skipped badum
Not sushang

Peak investments

[nova osprey]

Im probably gonna ss her this patch, but i still want her dead

[grand viper]

the 13th ring will be new ely battlesuit fr

[nova osprey]

[slim lion]

I will SS her this patch

Wanting her dead however...eh

The only people I genuinely want to begone are "those" elysia stans

[nova osprey]

How u gonna ss her, my plan is 4 stamps from pwo, 1 from bp

[slim lion]

I have her s2

Gonna get some from the newly added shop

Thank god I have SSS hov to unlock that shop

Actually wait

Was she s2 or s3

Can't remember

[nova osprey]

Gonna need 17 weeks if u start from 0 pwo

Or 10 weeks if its s3

[slim lion]

I don't think it's zero

Ehh I'll check later after class

[gusty thistle]

Paws power

[gleaming imp]

My pwo income is too low atm, only vke and hor frags but I can't even max on per week have to wait for my snake queen to be sss for have higher income

[terse ravine]

[slim lion]

Yea brightest choice

[terse ravine]

i mean i like Sushang's gameplay more than Badum, cant protest

I got both of em

Now where fund for SS0-3 Helia

[slim lion]

I genuinely didn't like Kiana's gameplay, too boring

[slim lion]

Rob a bank like me

[terse ravine]

???? Lily??

[slim lion]

Oh sorry I meant uhm

Work

Yea

Work in a bank

[terse ravine]

[slim lion]

High pay

[terse ravine]

[slim lion]

DEFINITELY HIGH PAY

TRUST

[terse ravine]

im calling cops hang on

[slim lion]

pls don't report me

NOOOO

Dang it!

Ama I trusted you so I gave u tips for easy SS+ helia

[terse ravine]

im not your accomplice thank you

[slim lion]

D:

[glass nacelle]

Whel chat

[slim lion]

Pls sponsor

[terse ravine]

cops over here

[smoky lintel]

lily

[terse ravine]

the cops is a mango?!

[steep axle]

im f2pbtw

(too broke to spend)

[smoky lintel]

Yeah

[steep axle]

maybe i should join lily on that bank

[smoky lintel]

[terse ravine]

over here too Mango

[steep axle]

[smoky lintel]

[terse ravine]

[steep axle]

[slim lion]

Good idea we have job options open!

[glass nacelle]

https://b23.tv/aw1wL2f

1k4 stacks eden 2

Luckily they added a cap

[slim lion]

O kebin

[muted mauve]

[abstract night]

Well lv has more trigger conditions :^)

[terse ravine]

[abstract night]

Wish I could try it 😔

[muted mauve]

Same timeframe

[urban cloud]

[steep axle]

no outfits ig

[fervent hinge]

no outfit? at all?

for 8.3?

[little ledge]

wasn't there that gyatseo diving suit though

[naive briar]

Griseo is event free outfit

[urban cloud]

Mmm when is sq getting an outfit I wonder
Surely she's next in line

[naive briar]

Vita will be getting 5

[fervent hinge]

Oh nvm forgot abt that

[naive briar]

U_U aging sounds harsh

[hard meadow]

next is ofc lamptern after thelemad and sena (vita cutting line with pyramid dont count)

[muted mauve]

There's Griseo event outfit and there should be the BP recolor

[fervent hinge]

hmmmmmm

[umbral spoke]

a continuation of the space event?

[glass nacelle]

they coop now

[urban cloud]

I don't mind her getting one actually

[glass nacelle]

time to bully cabbage again

[winter dirge]

[muted mauve]

watch it be Teri/Dudu/Kiana

[hard meadow]

the official guidelines state skin should be give only to valks that are irrelevant as possible

so yeah ig teri is up there

eclipsed by sparkler in loa team

dudu kiana still used too much

[naive briar]

Roza Lili

[hard meadow]

roza lili get new battlesuit

double S patch

[naive briar]

even if you count Delta when is the last time they were meta

[hard meadow]

before i started this game

[glass nacelle]

only 15k

[muted mauve]

free skins*
paid skins is different

[hard meadow]

has been the same for paid skin pretty much

unless pyramid

[fervent hinge]

SMOLDU RERUN?

YEAHHHHHHHHHHH

Wait before I get too excited

am I right

is she rerunning again in cn or am I stupid

OH SHE ISSSS

+3 WEP WOOO

[slim lion]

Yes lyo she is last valk for8.2

https://marisaimpact.com/calendar82

[fervent hinge]

PERFECT

I was worried I would be stuck on +2 a while

I should be able to afford another wep

[steep axle]

Oh hey its the 4.9 event

[steep axle]

Lyowhel getting 3 weapons

I barely got 1

[slim lion]

She min maxes her hov

I don't have funds to go to that lengths

[steep axle]

Me if i had money

Im graduating next year 😭 i probably will get a psrt time job after that

[fervent hinge]

can only afford 1 at a time

[steep axle]

Whale arc soon

[fervent hinge]

I'm at +2 rn

[steep axle]

Lyo do you have HoV figures

[fervent hinge]

no

too expensive

I tried to win it from the twitch event a while ago but didn't get it :/

I streamed like, daily for 3h as well so I really don't know wtf they expected me to do better except be more famous

[steep axle]

I will buy one probably

If its not over like 200 euros

[vale granite]

They just couldn't believe it's an actual human speaking

[fervent hinge]

I might eventually

[fervent hinge]

bro AI couldn't fuck up a voice like I can

I should replace paimon

[hard meadow]

good competition when some random big streamer with a few thousand viewers streams for 30 minutes and gets more view hours than you could evne if you stream 8 hour per day

[glass nacelle]

another loa week

[hard meadow]

why is apopo here again

[vale granite]

The random big streamer would also suggest you pull a 1 year old valk

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cxVQzeEDB

loa ruined ma

[slim lion]

Time to diy your own

[naive briar]

where is yours

[slim lion]

I'll actually will try to do it this summer

[naive briar]

ping me with photo thx

[slim lion]

Just trying to find somewhere that actually does 3d print

Pretty hard to find in my stupid country

[slim lion]

Will do~

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ZaVSzDEem

bita in new ring

[plucky cradle]

bita in 2025

[glass nacelle]

den in 2025

[shrewd socket]

does meele Sampo have any related to paralyze?

[willow pumice]

He cant be paralyzed

[shrewd socket]

SP?

[willow pumice]

oh fuck i forgot
transition phase has paralyze

the boss itself cant be paralyzed

[shrewd socket]

so unplayable without Helia?

[hard meadow]

is new boss unplayable without the valk released in same patch?

you alr know

[shrewd socket]

Lantern can at least be doable

[hard meadow]

[glass nacelle]

apopo ranged kek

[muted mauve]

Current:

• Trekking Pole ⬆️
• Shades ⬇️

Next:

• Audio System ⬆️
• Hot Peppers ⬆️

[umbral spoke]

why is hoyo making me choose between Bronya, Songque and Susannah Bluescreen

[shrewd socket]

only 1 is useful tho

[fervent hinge]

2nd OvT?

[umbral spoke]

i know overtime useful but Bronya

[shrewd socket]

OvT Ala MB on Vita is rank thing anyway

[umbral spoke]

and the songque stig I missed entirely

[umbral spoke]

dont even have Aladdin

[shrewd socket]

exactly

[smoky lintel]

Omg I'm free

Ovt T is mine

[hard meadow]

why these not just in homu shop

well, free 2nd ovt ig

[umbral spoke]

i wish

[muted mauve]

can you even claim dupes

[hard meadow]

idk

[umbral spoke]

yes

[muted mauve]

sounds fake

[hard meadow]

homu shop dont let you buy a dupe

[umbral spoke]

i mean i wouldnt see why not

[hard meadow]

or does it

never tried

[umbral spoke]

not around long enough to know

[hard meadow]

well i got all those stig alr anyway in that box

[umbral spoke]

I got 1

the Seele one

[shrewd socket]

i lack 3

OvT, kiramid and Que

[nova osprey]

im picking ovt, because ala farmable soon

||soon as in, 3 patch or half a year||

[glass nacelle]

aladeen in 2025

[smoky lintel]

Where ala from BP

[nova osprey]

i bought 7t and sus bear wp instead

[distant lagoon]

hmm double Susannah T could be bring interesting bleed strats but it´s a big could

[umbral spoke]

@shrewd socket Freedom

[shrewd socket]

[umbral spoke]

HoO wep might as well be a dk

[nova osprey]

Not +10, not a dkey

[umbral spoke]

I'm getting her set, I think

[nova osprey]

Why can i use animated

I didnt buy shit

[umbral spoke]

Goated server

[nova osprey]

[umbral spoke]

Anyway, balls will be spent... a lot

atp we might need a guide for Reserve

[nova osprey]

Its gonna be just, "buy dkey"

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1r5EgzbEv1

teri experience

[umbral spoke]

abyss specific decision-making might suggest otherwise

[nova osprey]

Full afk lamp aint no way

[steep axle]

what is songque doing there with p1 gang

[orchid dome]

She lost her way like Zoro memes

[umbral spoke]

she's taunting me for missing her by one week or something

[abstract night]

Hows aponia on paralyze assaka? :D

I know not as good as Helia. But like :^)

[distant lagoon]

aponia? helia? you gonna use KMB atm

[hard meadow]

kmb?

i will give you one (1) banana if that doesnt get fixed

[mild bloom]

Easy fix for mihole, just limit the dmg boost to just some stacks

[final locust]

💀

[abstract night]

What? :<

[plain veldt]

What's CN beta disturbance these days?

[shrewd socket]

use sus at that point

[oak yarrow]

ur the only one who uses aponia

u have to be the one to test

[abstract night]

😔 well not entirely true

[oak yarrow]

delulu

[abstract night]

Not really

[gleaming imp]

I use aponia

[hard meadow]

its ok soon aponia will get a dkey and become relevant again

[gleaming imp]

They should give all the s rank flame chaser valks stellar keys

Mobius, aponia, vill v SK memento

[plucky cradle]

[abstract night]

As fun as that would be

Ehe

Uhm thats unlikely

Hows Helia as a badum support

[final locust]

good

[abstract night]

Better or worse compared to hoh?

[desert lily]

Is HoHe even used outside of Tank?

[oak yarrow]

no

[desert lily]

Then she's worse than PAWS

[oak yarrow]

expected

[willow perch]

HoHe dkey is a thing that exists

And little more than that

[final locust]

hows your CN doing

[still condor]

truly one of the dkeys of all time

[abstract night]

It like made HoH able to be used in pt2 tho

[willow perch]

Yup, she's sure useable!

[abstract night]

I cant wait to use Thelema Vita HoH

[willow perch]

Someone drop a hydrogen bomb on this guy

[abstract night]

HoH has gotta be a good WoD support

[willow perch]

WoD in 2025

[still condor]

shes definitely a WoD support

nobody can say she isnt

[distant lagoon]

not again...

[abstract night]

Axtjally hoH dkey released in 2025

[willow perch]

Yeah?

[still condor]

how long until we get 'heavenly grail in 2025'

[willow perch]

I have used HoH + dkey all of 3 times since she released

That's how useful she is

[abstract night]

Lovely

A boss a patch

And an extra one in release

[willow perch]

Breath you are failing to get the point it's almost comedy at this point

[still condor]

the only thing hoh dkey is good for is MA sp slave for thelema

[abstract night]

What rank does HoH need to be used? :D

[willow perch]

Goodbye WoD Quaso
Hello LoA Quaso

[abstract night]

Its not ss3 is it? lol

[still condor]

SSS+3 trust

[willow perch]

All those poor S0 HoHe dkey havers

[abstract night]

I have ss :D

[willow perch]

Most of them would be in lower abyss brackets anyway
But actually she's used almost never so it probably doesn't matter even then

Hohe dkey gets a participation trophy atleast

[still condor]

Mines s0

[abstract night]

Ew

[willow perch]

Mine's SS2

[abstract night]

Whale

[still condor]

Exactly, that's why she's s0

Cause she's ew

[willow perch]

I can SSS her right now if I wanted

kekw

utter waste of resources but I could

[mild bloom]

[still condor]

How many Ely dupes to fix her sp

[distant lagoon]

rainbow balls down the drain

[abstract night]

7

[still condor]

What are rainbow balls

[willow perch]

[still condor]

Classic greedy verse, locking a whole kit behind e6 smh

[willow perch]

if I buy 2 LV stamps from supply shop, I can get her SS next patch, woo

[abstract night]

U need SSS1

[abstract night]

I can take that off ur hands- dw
I use luna a lot

[still condor]

Khai fund me Luna TB

[shrewd socket]

LunaTV

[mild bloom]

Good thing mine SSS, no need to touch any balls
...uh that sounded wrong

[shrewd socket]

clipped

[willow perch]

nvm S3 already

[abstract night]

Helia has gotta be a good support for Helia right?

[willow perch]

Someone bomb this guy

[mild bloom]

[abstract night]

But why

[still condor]

p2 BP is shit when are we getting p3 bp

[abstract night]

I did nothing wrong

[still condor]

No you need Sunday, he's got the best sp regen in the game

[abstract night]

Who?

[meager thorn]

a

[glass nacelle]

ded

[iron sentinel]

Wait whut

[quasi glen]

Wao luna bp

[shrewd socket]

where's the issue?

[slate elm]

@steel zephyr https://youtu.be/J6zUU5AZr2Q?feature=shared&t=104 one example where sushang may be notable for helia. Although note there's no guarantee live will get this particular situation yet

and note this is still v2 when info about v3 has happened already edit: v3 hasn't happened yet

note hoc later on in the video too

[steel zephyr]

is that different weather than current one

idt it is right

[muted mauve]

Current:

• Audio System ⬆️
• Hot Peppers ⬆️

Next:

• Cabbage ⬆️
• ???

[slate elm]

My Internet suddenly died on me. I think it's going to be dead for a while sorry

[slate elm]

No idea. Maybe they made a grail husk

[steep axle]

How long does this event last 😭

[terse ravine]

it should be lightning with hitcount (older weather).

[slate elm]

you made a beta video about the new helia too right? So you actually have seen this in the cn servers

[unique swallow]

CABBAGES

@somber egret

@terse ravine if you wait until Friday I can participate in your survey

[naive briar]

https://tenor.com/view/who-ping-seal-ping-gif-24789222

[terse ravine]

Beta version abyss includes all versions of Husk since it has ~80 abyss bosses ready to test.
This is either Bleed or Lightning Husk (hitcount), but no sane person would want to try Bleed Husk with Helia, sooo it should be Lightning.

different story if the uploader is me, I'm not sane

[terse ravine]

oke Cay

[glass nacelle]

ew

[muted mauve]

And for the last 2 weeks of the patch.
Fill the puzzle

[naive briar]

[terse ravine]

[clear vigil]

[foggy tendon]

the puzzler

[muted mauve]

I don't understand why the ELF event has so much extra currency.

The only reward is at 5k and I'm at over 8k

[steep axle]

Can HoT fischl eden come back i hate this

I wouldve gotten 600 if vita didnt decide to die

[vale granite]

How tf did your Vita manage to die

During the hitcount at the end?

[abstract night]

why not aponia fischl gd?

[slim lion]

wtf are these team options

[abstract night]

let me cope

[plucky cradle]

apoopoo in 2025

[naive briar]

Asuka in 2025 when

[plucky cradle]

Asuka dkey

[naive briar]

what would be Asuka dkey

[iron sentinel]

Never

[steep axle]

Hell

I miss a3

Should i try badum after my phone cools down

[azure tartan]

@willow pumice wow marisa look at this content that I just found! https://b23.tv/8YJ9bWU

[steep axle]

Is that HoF with seele weapon

[willow pumice]

lol that is funny

wow my char is gone

sassy durandal

[somber egret]

CAY

[willow perch]

I'll protect the cabbage

[naive briar]

the cabbage is safe in my fridge

[muted mauve]

19 days

[vagrant yew]

So sassy the lance floats by itself

[glass nacelle]

no dudu => demoot time

[willow pumice]

Real gamers dont skip dudu

Even if patch is 5 weeks

[muted mauve]

Suprising no one. Hi3 getting poked at for their latest post

[celest valley]

Her dkey would be the Eva

[glass nacelle]

[distant lagoon]

ohmagad the d is increasing

[glass nacelle]

no fish skip

[distant lagoon]

best news of the day

[oak yarrow]

thats just because no one figured out how to do it yet

i believe in cn random button pressing

they will find another bug

[scarlet sapphire]

If I'm interpreting that graph correctly, Sus outscores Songque even with fish skip
So the latter doesn't matter at all

[oak yarrow]

whale diff
im s0

my fish skip will clear

[glass nacelle]

even if you use fish skip you still can't clear mobs with low rank

[muted mauve]

Current:

• Cabbage ⬆️
• Jingwei Figure ⬇️

Next:

• Bear Plush ⬆️
• Ice Cream ⬆️

[glass nacelle]

[gusty thistle]

Is PS a great pull now considering PAWS

[little ledge]

If you don’t have 2 hg supports, yes

[willow pumice]

if you whel and can pull both

[gusty thistle]

Kekw

[willow pumice]

[gusty thistle]

Hmm 28k crystals and 15 pink cards lol

Not enough

[glass nacelle]

🐳

[gusty thistle]

Maybe ill just skip HoV from Temu

[main goblet]

what did you just say

[gusty thistle]

Hov from.temu?

[main goblet]

[gusty thistle]

Has HoV wings

Bio type

[oak yarrow]

if fish skip doesnt work then u arent fish skipping hard enough

[glass nacelle]

ew

[muted mauve]

Surely hoyo will start posting next patch stuff soon

[gusty thistle]

Should have been fire but lightnjng for some reasom

[glass nacelle]

I can't see she's fire with those effects yet

[oak yarrow]

story pretty much said she was fire

[muted mauve]

Other Helia was fire.
Our Helia is lightning

[gusty thistle]

Only thing i could think of is that she "purified" the flames or something thats why its ligthning or smth idk

[muted mauve]

Fire represented revenge

[gusty thistle]

Lightning represented focus?

[willow pumice]

this guy got t6 with jd
i guess most cn players just refuse to play fish skip / acknowledge it as legit score / just dont know about em

[gusty thistle]

Like the tip of a spear. Single minded determination

Idk

[glass nacelle]

I think fast is not enough, the buff compared to sushang is still low

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1E4EqzNEUc

wow elyflop elygood

i think v3 should let her use ult after charge atk

[oak yarrow]

fast is enough when it also hits hard

[gleaming imp]

Omg this is perfect for a p1 boomer like me

[tulip sparrow]

wtf is fish skip

[muted mauve]

Switching out from Songque at the start of fish cast animation.
You still throw the fish and gain the benefits of it with almost 0 time cost

[tulip sparrow]

i didnt know i could do that

[muted mauve]

just keep your hair

[mild owl]

its not very hard, if you don't want to do it for other reasons thats fine

[muted mauve]

[unreal birch]

the new snazzy event is not a rerun? it has different stages

[muted mauve]

sequel

[muted mauve]

Current:

• Bear Plush ⬆️
• Ice Cream ⬆️

Next:

• Brick ⬆️
• Plant ⬇️

[muted mauve]

where news

[desert lily]

[steep axle]

Chat there are 2 bubbles pn my screen protector

I swear my screen was fine yesterday

Im blaming hairpins

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1u6EvzmEDf

[still vine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/1klnx3s/fu_hua_garuda_doro_artwork_by_friendly_pomato/

[slate elm]

@vocal harness note this video in the reply is from v2 but we're currently on (edit: still waiting for) v3 so it may no longer be accurate (edit: is subject to change). But you can at least observe the general roles.

[desert lily]

Hopefully Ely isn't shit support in everything

[vocal harness]

Thank you ❤️

[muted mauve]

Wait, V3 already out?

thought it was tomorrow

[slate elm]

oh

i got confused sorry

because i saw 8.3 and confused it with v3

[desert lily]

[gusty thistle]

Omg sai stop spreading fake news

[slate elm]

https://tenor.com/view/iori-minase-idolmaster-anime-アイドルマスター-gif-26445209

[muted mauve]

Still 0 news

[mossy escarp]

no news at all when

[muted mauve]

Current:

• Toy Relic ⬆️
• Plant ⬇️

Next:

• Fortune-telling Prop ⬆️
• Jade ⬇️

I feel baited

[naive briar]

I forgot to play for so many days

[muted mauve]

Chibi. Why Cioara using that name.

[naive briar]

internet handle obviously

[terse ravine]

wanna make sure if there are official EN names for the new AR Spec and Tag already?

[neat yoke]

No.

[terse ravine]

Oki thank you Haps

[umbral spoke]

i think that only happens once glb gets official drip marketing

until then, we can improvize with our own translations

I actually like Casual Stroll more than PS's official name

[rotund escarp]

When is this version of Helia going to be available in NA servers?

[desert lily]

After June 26th I believe?

[rotund escarp]

Oh wow, I got awhile to wait.

[desert lily]

Longer patches

[rotund escarp]

Okay, so this will be the week after my birthday

[desert lily]

2 or less week after mine

[rotund escarp]

June bugs

[desert lily]

[glass nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGdyknxMLbc

~20 mins

v3 today

[steep axle]

hope suskiphang gets nerfed

i hate bleed sm

[glass nacelle]

look no sushang helia deals 0 dmg

[steep axle]

why does a lightning bio dps need a physical bleed dps

i hate new sushang id rather get demoted to a2

[smoky lintel]

cuz both bio and it was pretty obvious that sushang will be good for the new AR

[steep axle]

i hate new ar chars

first sparkle now suskiphang

i hate qua and bleed

[steep axle]

i dont remember bio weathers needing 2 bio chars

[desert lily]

[scarlet sapphire]

IIRC HoS dps used SA instead of Carole for a long time due to type advantage

[abstract night]

Actually songque was the first LoA support

[distant lagoon]

what helps to have a support for no existing DPS for it?

[abstract night]

Aponia Fischl :^)

[abstract night]

Same argument for sparkle?

[muted mauve]

But Casual Stroll is wrong

[abstract night]

Customer Service?

[umbral spoke]

i dont care if its wrong, it sounded cool and fitting

and she takes strolls around a village every day in her event

[steep axle]

oh i just bruteforced HoT back when aponia was a thing

aponia has a fun gameplay ngl

[abstract night]

:0

[gleaming imp]

I personally just did aponia eden hot

[strange lintel]

Is sushang bis for helia?

[willow pumice]

Ye

[final locust]

nah hohe is just barely behind
badum obviously like necessary for her, but we all expected that

[final locust]

badum >> sushang > hohe >>> rs

RS is not very good

[gleaming imp]

Dudubad?