🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[muted mauve]

@naive briar New Lore post https://www.miyoushe.com/bh3/article/62633283

<- Gave Sushang leave because she had finished all work while she herself has to keep working overtime.

[steep axle]

Lack of prisim = ely ate it all

[muted mauve]

Oh yeah, @naive briar did Sushang accidentally threaten her boss?

[naive briar]

[naive briar]

wait why stab me with SSoSS

[muted mauve]

Because that's MiHoyo's love language

[naive briar]

carv speaking in net slang

[muted mauve]

I don't think being aware of a meme counts as speaking

[naive briar]

they have to keep reminding us Sushang left her parents at 5 and never reunited as a family
how she was lonely and were to kill Fu Hua...

Sushang chibi outfit looks good

[muted mauve]

Me hungry and I don't know if I'll have lunch break. These hi3 food posts are not helping.

[twin dune]

They are the same picture

[copper shale]

right one is more polite, it says hello before eating

[twin dune]

More polite my ass
My cat screams for food. As soon as something drops it vanishes

[glass nacelle]

ded

[copper shale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1142110021656772793/1272970721772965999/IMG_6673.gif

[naive briar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sleep-cute-epic-very-cute-gif-20687912

[umbral spoke]

@tender grotto bp looking great

[tender grotto]

ye Ik but I mean the ones not in BP

[shrewd socket]

you buying for deer?

[tender grotto]

I also lack those

[tender grotto]

[umbral spoke]

i think the bp solution will give them a reason to not bring dk boxes

[shrewd socket]

if i could buy BP it would be either SS LV or S2 Sena

[umbral spoke]

i'll just farm DKs

also VILL-V

MY BELOVED

[shrewd socket]

one lacks supps the other is the supp...

[umbral spoke]

okay but looking at the actual video marisa posted, not sure what to think of all resonance shop weapons being there...

[shrewd socket]

but then i can't buy anything so

[umbral spoke]

oh god, stigmas too

[shrewd socket]

and it's not like ill find anything useful from reserve shop

[umbral spoke]

yeah okay, collectors are getting milked now

[shrewd socket]

why pristine when solon exists

[umbral spoke]

wait- i need to confirm something

[shrewd socket]

and all the rest are inexistent

[umbral spoke]

i might get T anyway, just so i have the 3pc collected

with somehow getting M and B from off-rolls

[shrewd socket]

maybe HoHe stamps if they don't require knight/pala (they probably will)

[umbral spoke]

YES YES YES YES YES

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-anime-yes-yes-yes-yeah-its-a-yes-gif-17161748

[shrewd socket]

so yeah, new shop useless for me

[umbral spoke]

all i needed for Hoo dps

[umbral spoke]

nah not for me

the old stuff stays forever, so I can just farm the orbs as f2p

[shrewd socket]

i doubt they'll make it too easy to get

[umbral spoke]

only the p2 valks is what you might have to pay for

[shrewd socket]

so it's long term unfulfilling

[umbral spoke]

depends on XP distribution

also orbs in BP

[shrewd socket]

like even if they add HoO stuff later id have no reason to buy it

[umbral spoke]

why not

[glass nacelle]

your hoh is sss 🐳

[shrewd socket]

bc by then either ppl will have SS2+ or the team is basically useless

[umbral spoke]

yeah, trio is cooked

unless everyone hits the max threshold

that's where me and you can catch up

...assuming they didn't phase out trio

[hard meadow]

you can only keep ranking so long to keep up with new valks

[shrewd socket]

it's too late for me to think of trio at all

[muted mauve]

5 every 2 months

so like 4 months per weapon

4 months to farm a piece of 3 year old gear

[hard meadow]

arent the weapons in reserve shop cheaper

[shrewd socket]

ye

10 vs 12

[umbral spoke]

stigs are 8 orbs

[hard meadow]

arent weapons in new bp mroe expensive

its 20 no

[glass nacelle]

p2 wp

[umbral spoke]

fuck

so it's more expensive

[muted mauve]

part 2 weapons are double the cost

[hard meadow]

well yea cause there is no stigs to buy

[shrewd socket]

it's a fair price

[umbral spoke]

also +8 orbs per BP

[plucky cradle]

green

[shrewd socket]

but i assume you can buy 3 of them

[umbral spoke]

if you go paladin

[hard meadow]

thats only to make up for longer patch

[umbral spoke]

which I'm not going to do

[muted mauve]

f2p don't get access to part 2 gear anyway.

this new bp is only good for paying players.

[umbral spoke]

i suffered enough

[hard meadow]

so just like old bp

[plucky cradle]

*all bp

[umbral spoke]

inb4 fully f2p p1 cooks become normalized

[hard meadow]

they wont be

too weak

[umbral spoke]

not for low agony

[plucky cradle]

delete p1 when

[glass nacelle]

fund me new bp tks

[hard meadow]

alr deleted this patch

[plucky cradle]

too bad I alrd retired by that point

[hard meadow]

no more p1 skills on new valks

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

give me your acc

[plucky cradle]

[shrewd socket]

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-gif-14887144685173519659

i hated that sm

[plucky cradle]

delete new dudu pls

[hard meadow]

same

[glass nacelle]

delete these bosses tks

[hard meadow]

like what do you mean my ss1 skill only works in p1 team

[umbral spoke]

Vanguard: 5 Balls
Knight: 13 Balls
Paladin: 22 Balls

[shrewd socket]

delete spork

[umbral spoke]

+2 from dorm

[umbral spoke]

no

[glass nacelle]

delete game

[hard meadow]

balls over time is still same. its just to make up for longer patch

[muted mauve]

the only thing I care about in this BP cycle is Sena weapon for CN and 2 pieces of Luna gear for GLB.

But MiHoyo said pay or wait another year.

[hard meadow]

only change is really bp is cheaper now since you only have to refresh every 9 weeks instead of 6

[umbral spoke]

only paladin has more balls now

kinda a kick in the balls ngl

[plucky cradle]

imejin buying paladin

[umbral spoke]

yea imejin

[hard meadow]

i never not bought paladin

[umbral spoke]

me never

[glass nacelle]

imejin buying stuff in game

[muted mauve]

There's not even XY

[plucky cradle]

wait what

it's so over

[hard meadow]

they removed xy specifically

[plucky cradle]

shit bp not worth my cash bye

why are they gatekeeping xy

[hard meadow]

rare emperor sword

cant be found in trash shop

[umbral spoke]

idc about XY, I CAN FINALLY GET THIS

[copper shale]

theres the atk increase too

[novel elbow]

can i at least buy a stig as f2p

[glass nacelle]

inb4 pay 100$ to get dkey box

[hard meadow]

what stig. no stig in new bp

[plucky cradle]

pay 100$ for xy sword alone

[hard meadow]

only valk card, weapon and stamps

[novel elbow]

[plucky cradle]

+10 atk

p2w game

[novel elbow]

wonderful

stupid game

[hard meadow]

i mean you want p2 stig just craft it

whos gonna pay balls for that

[plucky cradle]

you

[shrewd socket]

still better than the others

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

@plucky cradle

[plucky cradle]

@glass nacelle

[shrewd socket]

b-but crafting taxes!

[plucky cradle]

[muted mauve]

at least the other games didn't add 3 weeks of nothing to the game

[novel elbow]

old stigs can still be useful sometimes smh

[hard meadow]

old stigs in f2p shop yes

[novel elbow]

at least let me buy these

[plucky cradle]

yea cuz there are alrd 3 weeks of nothingness in other games

[glass nacelle]

most of them can forge

[hard meadow]

there is 5 weeks and 6 days of nothingness in every genshin patch

[shrewd socket]

3? 4

[plucky cradle]

5

[glass nacelle]

9

[novel elbow]

ye after a year of farm

[copper shale]

99

[umbral spoke]

its okay guys, hoyo just wants us to play more of their games so they gave us more breaks

[plucky cradle]

101

[shrewd socket]

nah, id sleep

[hard meadow]

bro that reminds me of the ff14 producer

[plucky cradle]

they should just remove abyss and MA and give us nirbaba rewards every 3 days

[hard meadow]

when asked why there is no content he literally said "go play other game while wait for new patch"

[shrewd socket]

i refuse to play the other games until they remake the gachas

which they wont

[umbral spoke]

remake gachas?

[shrewd socket]

remove 5050

[hard meadow]

50-50 🤮

[glass nacelle]

*should remove game

[plucky cradle]

*should remove kurowhel

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

[umbral spoke]

okay that's wild

[muted mauve]

Hi3 added 3 extra weeks to their 2.5 weeks

[hard meadow]

ofc keep subscription going

[muted mauve]

1 story update from HSR is more new content than the entirety of version 8.1

[hard meadow]

ok but the story is shit

[plucky cradle]

they should never rerun any openworld event anymore

[hard meadow]

so its 0 content

[glass nacelle]

50 50 no need wp
and no 50 50 need wp
perfect balance

[spice summit]

Well hsr makes 10 times what hi3 makes

[plucky cradle]

50-50 in hi3 soon cuz mhy needs budget

[glass nacelle]

kek

event too

[umbral spoke]

let me remind you of the only worthwhile rewards

[muted mauve]

and? HI3 used to have stories just as long

[plucky cradle]

allat for one roll

[hard meadow]

there is 2 things that they can do to make me quit immediately. that would be one of them

[umbral spoke]

so just don't play it if you don't want to lmao

[spice summit]

I mean what hsr make doesn't justify the nothing burger it offers

[plucky cradle]

I mean yes I skipped the entirety of the rerun

[glass nacelle]

long story doesn't mean it's good tks
many yapping

[plucky cradle]

the event fucking sucks lmfao

[umbral spoke]

idk i like it

[hard meadow]

i liked it too on first run

probably 2nd best event that year

after harvest moon

[plucky cradle]

make every openworld mission skippable pls I only want my flashy combat tks

[umbral spoke]

what's the issue then?

[muted mauve]

still X5 more than current hi3 and without almost 6 weeks of nothing

[glass nacelle]

^

[umbral spoke]

well, hsr has an actual world to explore and people like it

[spice summit]

That's to be expected and what it should've been considering we're talking about hoyo

[plucky cradle]

use autoclick

[shrewd socket]

what's a rerun for u might be the first time for someone else

[glass nacelle]

[shrewd socket]

like Ram for example

[plucky cradle]

good they should never rerun anything so as not to let anyone have such horrible experience

[naive briar]

bean?

[spice summit]

And then you get really sick of traveling between the same places over and over again for the stupid side quests and events

[umbral spoke]

you won't like me for saying it, but if they rerun all of captainverse like now I would love it

[glass nacelle]

ew

[plucky cradle]

I don't mind rerunning as long as it's not an openworld event

[shrewd socket]

they should make captainverse permanent

[umbral spoke]

YES

[glass nacelle]

*should remove

[hard meadow]

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

they should add all captverse to a specific category like the chronicles

[naive briar]

this event had improved a lot if you look closely. they don't force you to walk on grids anymore in the rerun

[somber egret]

[hard meadow]

they do though

[shrewd socket]

i dont like that

[copper shale]

hsr open world feels like same thing just slightly diff flavour each time, wat world to explore

[glass nacelle]

purple ai

[umbral spoke]

did they change a lot?

[glass nacelle]

ye

[umbral spoke]

i just heard about ladder animations

[somber egret]

Cute color

[plucky cradle]

hsr openworlds are sakura samsara's scale

[naive briar]

then don't use it. keep walking in squares

[umbral spoke]

bigger

[plucky cradle]

same size, just more maps

[hard meadow]

moving with controller stick is still very janky. like the character is allowed to make slight turns instead of strict 90 degree movement

[umbral spoke]

yes, but you can actually get lost in them. thats how big

[hard meadow]

but you will still constantly bump into invisible "walls" if you try to move in 45 degress for example

[plucky cradle]

just don't use a controller ez

[novel elbow]

first time i played this event i did the race quest first try now it took me 10 tries

[umbral spoke]

lmao how

I did it first try

[hard meadow]

ladder animation

[muted mauve]

which caused a bunch of bugs

[naive briar]

go get a job

[hard meadow]

same but the little girl was literally 0.2 seconds away from finish line

where as last time it was very easy

[umbral spoke]

nah not for me

just dont take the ladder

[muted mauve]

it's literally easier now. you can outrace her without the ladder by twice the distance by just using diagonal movement.

[novel elbow]

skill issue then

[plucky cradle]

even the random npc got buffed in p2

[hard meadow]

i guess thats a thing now with the free-er movement

last time the whole point is it was impossible to win without fixing the ladder first

[umbral spoke]

ohhh so that's why

i wondered why that event was in beta, no explanation

[shrewd socket]

again i dont like that

[umbral spoke]

like 0

not even on the beta server as to why captainverse is in beta

[shrewd socket]

it feels like walking in soap

[naive briar]

which

[hard meadow]

it was liek those older pokemon games before

[novel elbow]

btw i was the one that asked for this in the survey

[hard meadow]

strict grid based movement

[umbral spoke]

sounds sick

[novel elbow]

[muted mauve]

you can now literally walk backwards towards vines to skip most vine puzzles without the item

[naive briar]

Pokemon is not that old

[umbral spoke]

1996

[naive briar]

[hard meadow]

well i havent played any since emerald but i imagine you have free movement in them these days?

[shrewd socket]

by gen 6

[novel elbow]

not even born

[naive briar]

infants

[plucky cradle]

ok gramps

[umbral spoke]

not even formed yet

[naive briar]

[umbral spoke]

as a white thing with tail

[smoky burrow]

wasnt even thought as something that was to happen

[hard meadow]

dad bought me gameboy color and pokemon blue from the states before it was released in EU

[plucky cradle]

I only played gen 4

[muted mauve]

old timer

[umbral spoke]

no region lock?

[plucky cradle]

cuz I liked Cynthia

[shrewd socket]

wasnt blue just green with fixes?

[hard meadow]

only on tv consoles

cause 50hz/60hz

[umbral spoke]

oh

[naive briar]

go back to your babychair

[umbral spoke]

yeah right, PAL bullshit

[muted mauve]

you told me to go work

[naive briar]

sorry I forgor carv doesn't own a chair

[plucky cradle]

no chair in 2025

[muted mauve]

[smoky burrow]

pokemon has always been rinse and repeat

[naive briar]

carv keeps taking their owners chair how sad

[muted mauve]

[naive briar]

no buli

[hard meadow]

but blue is literally green

just marketing thought the color would sell better or something

[plucky cradle]

me when I'm colorblind

[smoky burrow]

red blue and green

[muted mauve]

she only wants it when I'm using it

[umbral spoke]

only to make leafgreen later

[novel elbow]

shappire was bugged

i remember being called a mage from other kids when i used the duplication bug for legendary pkm

[umbral spoke]

legit my first pokemon game, didn't think it also had such game breaking bugs

[naive briar]

how can you not return what you borrowed when the rightful owner asks

mihoyo stop eating the mascots

[smoky burrow]

make an AI-Chan cake and throw it off the Hoyo office

[shrewd socket]

non japan probably

but jp had red green first and then blue as the "enhanced" version

Gen 1's Crystal basically

[umbral spoke]

what?

i thought red and blue were the first editions

[naive briar]

she's got an official account https://x.com/ai_houkai3rd/status/1836277238242906243?t=WGZeWujgHguy0QzmDOMlow&s=19

AIちゃん (@ai_houkai3rd) on X

AIちゃん毎日頑張っててえらい～😊

X · Sep 18, 2024, 5:33 AM

[hard meadow]

no jp had red and green

then blue

and then again yellow

[naive briar]

then yellow

[hard meadow]

milk milk milk

[umbral spoke]

4 games???

[naive briar]

hey yellow is different

[umbral spoke]

yeah yellow had pika

[hard meadow]

i got the surfing pikachu by connecting yellow to pokemon stadium on n64

[umbral spoke]

also missingno bug was fixed

[shrewd socket]

yellow was just anime shill

[umbral spoke]

unpopular opinion but probably true

[naive briar]

they said in an interview that they didn't use blue in the beginning because cold shade is not appealing
but one rom can hardly fit 151 so they split

[hard meadow]

they worked some magic to even fit that game on the kart

[umbral spoke]

it's called good programming

or rather compact programming

[hard meadow]

[umbral spoke]

assembly had it's ways

[naive briar]

at planning there were 300 pokemon but had to delete until it was below 100
then somehow made some space but decided to do other things instead of putting 300 back

[naive briar]

old bombaman rom can fit in a floppy
crazy era

[umbral spoke]

fair, it's not like it was the only pokemon gen they ever wanted to make

[hard meadow]

gold/silver use double size cart with 2 mebi

lets just slap the whole old world in there why not

this baby can fit anything

[naive briar]

Gold Silver is by far the best game
HGSS perfection

[umbral spoke]

btw guys, sorry for this but we're way off-topic

[hard meadow]

any mots

[naive briar]

🚪 🚶‍♂️

[fervent hinge]

silver?

[smoky burrow]

Theyve always been watching they are just pokemon fans

[umbral spoke]

phew

[naive briar]

busy playing sonic rumble on one hand

[hard meadow]

[fervent hinge]

git on topic or I'm deleting the entire channel (definitely truth not lie 100% real)

[naive briar]

lyo can we get Arc city rerun

[hard meadow]

should put all old events into that archive

[fervent hinge]

never

[hard meadow]

they dont even put all new ones in there

[naive briar]

all Vita events get a place on AI chan's ship
marriage confirmed

[urban cloud]

What's arc city rerun? The bronie introduction event? (Sorry I'm too new for this)

[umbral spoke]

first canon marriage fr, vita and AI

[hard meadow]

alr have captain and luna

[umbral spoke]

*in the main universe

[naive briar]

money lust gacha runner AI Hyperion
profit seeker Vita
worst canon marriage

I believe the event was called Arc Light Bound

[muted mauve]

but it reran just a few months ago

[hard meadow]

Arc: Light Bound/Rerun
Jul 25, 2022 ~ Aug 10, 2022

[muted mauve]

that is like 4 months ago

[naive briar]

what is walk backwards btw

[shrewd socket]

Cecilia and Siegfried

[muted mauve]

irl or in game?

[naive briar]

:D

[muted mauve]

press down-left at the last moment instead

[unique swallow]

[naive briar]

Cay shhh

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

ice dps

[clear vigil]

[plucky cradle]

dudu in 2025

[steep axle]

no way ely got powercrept again

[abstract night]

Didnt she release in 2025?

[verbal mountain]

2026

yes 2025

for glb

for cn 2024

[abstract night]

Shush

:(

[gleaming imp]

Smol dudu bad since I can't simp

[vagrant yew]

can't simp, but can protecc

[gleaming imp]

[mossy nimbus]

when r we gettingthe banners for

sushanf patch

i wanna know if ely dkey is there

[gleaming imp]

Most likely ely dkey won’t be there if we go by hofin dk

[smoky lintel]

would be suprised if they run Dkey back to back

[muted mauve]

[woeful meadow]

Would it be wise to skip dkey for hofi to save for 8.2 sush?

I have everything needed for vita dps but could I just make do for now w helia and get the new phys valk?

[ember locust]

They basically wait for a spending event to do that apparently so...

Ely's DK might rerun when there will be a new DK

[native halo]

Depends
If it you want to go for a long haul,then yes,an entire character will be better than a dk
Every patch the chance of getting new vita support increases,since youve already gone through 2-3 patches already,the dk investment is already a bit down
+10 atk is nice and all but not necessary
However if you dont have literally anything else and vita dps team is the only thing you have and need hofi dk to complete it,then yes, go ahead
Or maybe wait for 8.3 leeks who knows

[woeful meadow]

I have the new Kiana team and thelema team, and Elysia team so I think I’m okay to skip?

I also have songque

[native halo]

Thelema can cover some mech weathers
If you have luna then you can safely deal with lightning

All these are irrelevant for casual rl/agony tho because its not that hard to stay there in NA(i think,i have no clue, just going with the assumption that its same as eu,which is a snoozefest)

You should be okay with 2-3 fully invested teams/1 hyperinvested team

[woeful meadow]

I don’t have Luna sadly

[native halo]

Theres also the argument that new possible RoO character might not replace hofi dk,and coralie instead (very likely because A ranks are closer to chopping block) and you will lose some damage running subpar teams
But that depends on how much you want to invest ,that scenario is still better than not having replacement options tho

[woeful meadow]

But we’ll probably have a new lighting valk around then anyways no?

[native halo]

Check weathers and maybe see how many lightning/RoO bosses there will be i guess,plan ahead and take the -100 loss
I can't give any more advice unfortunately,who knows what comes in the future

[woeful meadow]

It’s okay, tyty for ur insight wise person 😝😝

[native halo]

Scenario 1- we already have luna(still strong),teri(mid,but still okay),vita(busted only if you have full 12/12),thats 3 within 1 year,so its about time lightning gets a break
Scenario 2- FUCK IT WE BALL RAHHHH MORE LIGHTNING RAIN THEM LIGHTING, NEED MORE LIGHTING (this has happened before)

Hoyo really likes lightning so its not unlikely

Also even if there is lighting valk,vita still keeps RoO bosses & some mech bosses(and sprouts of wishing)

Unless its also RoO lightning, in that case

[woeful meadow]

Maybe I’ll take the risk? I’m not sure since maybe I should invest more into my physical teams since all I got is JD…

[native halo]

I unfortunately have made a bet with a friend that if vita dps gets powercrept within 1 year then i have go donate 9 dorm legos

So yes,my lifeline depends on it ,dont take a biased persons opinion for granted

[woeful meadow]

I’m just conflicted bc I started during vitas release and idk how to pull wisely😭‼️

like maybe I should finish my vita team and save for awhile but then I’ll struggle w a half -assed phys team when it’s required of me😭

[native halo]

Well uh
I havnt seen much 8.2 yet ,but from this thing,i do assume that sushang will need other phy dps for supports,unlike a lot of other p2 valks that are mix n match

JD for example has better pairing with vita/sardine + thelema/lantern
All 4 of them have diverse coverage
Whereas hyperinvesting in one team(phy in this case) seems meh(to me)

You have vita 4/4?

[woeful meadow]

Everyone I mentioned besides hofi is 4/4!!

[native halo]

This is from a recent wyvern video

I don't do damage calcs neither have access to beta,cant check/confirm numbers myself so will have to take it as is

Dont know if im allowed to post links here

[native halo]

Potentially 60 pulls that can go towards a new valk/weapon or fully unlocking the potential of one singular team(well more like two with the finality trio but eh,youll need high ranks for that anyways) for a few patches

Its upto you i guess

Rip

[woeful meadow]

It’s at 36 pity more but I get what u mean

So maybe I should just hold off for now and improve my weakest point rn which is phys

[native halo]

So as i was saying
Id do 20 pulls and see if i get lucky
If i do get weapon then 20 pulls for dk is nice
If i dont then it goes towards pity of the new valks weapon i want

Depends on how much you like gambling

[woeful meadow]

Okok so basically, tease it

see if I get lucky and if not, save

[native halo]

Speaking of abyss
Vita weathers are supposed to get rarer and rarer as time goes

So you might not miss out on much

[vale granite]

Yes, you are

[native halo]

36 pity is on the mid end,i wouldn't risk it because thats a bit too much to loose and whats beyond the point of "getting lucky"
If you spend 20 pulls then thats 44 pulls in total

[verbal mountain]

depends on boss, usually it's dudu + one of badum/sparkle/sq

at least from the showcases i've seen

[native halo]

Which kiana

[verbal mountain]

badum

[woeful meadow]

It’s from getting elys dkey early so I spent 3 ten pulls to get at least 2 of her gear since I had 0 prisms😭😭

I got it in the first ten pull w no stigs with it😭

[native halo]

@woeful meadow already has kiana +JD so i assume thats good enough

You dont need to invest into an entire new character that can potentially be crept soon

Yeah i think you should hold off from pulling for dk

[native halo]

Prism stigs are farmable (?)

[woeful meadow]

Okok t’y!!

[woeful meadow]

how?

[native halo]

The promised land called foundry

[vale granite]

2 Prisms and 600 Fuel per stig

[native halo]

You also get 1 stig free from boxes

[woeful meadow]

That’s what I meant tho..

I had no prisms

[vale granite]

Well, their main sources are Starter Manual (idk whether that's applicable to you), MA and events

[native halo]

600 ethers is like 8-9 runs on f6/7 with mirage hoarde rewards
Prism is , well,you will get them free

But yes i understand,you wanted to get it immediately,been there

[vale granite]

And gacha ofc, but don't spend crystals just for that

[woeful meadow]

It was past that😭

[woeful meadow]

I didn’t wanna wait like two weeks just to get 2/3 stigs

💔💔

[native halo]

But risking getting a spare dk/+5 atk isnt something id risk 24 pulls
Lmao considering the stig rates on gacha,you could have done single pulls and be better off

What done is done,its not a mistake anyways, you don't need to worry

[woeful meadow]

phew

[muted mauve]

Nah do this

[untold flax]

someonetell me why sushang isnt supprtforluna and ce

[vale granite]

Because Hoyo said so, nothing else to it

[untold flax]

shouldi stillpull sushang if i dnt have her other teamates

[vale granite]

No skills related to inactive AR

[untold flax]

i only have badum kiana pt 2 valk

[vale granite]

Probably not, but it's best to decide when we have 8.3 info

[vale granite]

Also Badum works as a supp for Sushang (and vice versa)

[untold flax]

okay can i use coralie sushan and budum???

[vale granite]

Not Coralie leader tho ofc

[untold flax]

yes

@vale granite isittrue that is only best to pullforthe new characters

[vale granite]

Generally speaking yes if you wanna be a competitive player

[untold flax]

i want to clear abyss agony 1-3with ease

[vale granite]

If you are a more casual player I still suggest you get 1-2 proper teams before going for waifus

[vale granite]

You'll get there

[untold flax]

ty

[untold flax]

sois sushang x corailie x badum a prper team

[vale granite]

I mean, not really cuz of Coralie being a placeholder

[untold flax]

but badumis fire

[glass nacelle]

muted

[vale granite]

For a "your mom" "joke" too 😭

[naive briar]

Sushang is implusive pull I can't. Just have to build a team for her

[vale granite]

Just play the tutorial a couple times, you'll calm down

[naive briar]

Sadly I failed my A2 cancels for Vita last round

[vale granite]

I mean, they don't matter at all in Sinful-Agony

[naive briar]

[vale granite]

Only RL and Nirv (in JP/CN Nirv you're probs cooked without SS Teri tho)

[naive briar]

People keep telling me JP is more slack

[vale granite]

Interesting

[rustic stump]

I wonder if only pt2 qua/IMG battlesuits will be the ones to support pt1?

[vale granite]

I mean, it's very unlikely they'll keep releasing supps for P1 valks

The only reason they came out is so that P1 valks don't die earlier than usual

[vale granite]

(Starless weather exists for the same reason btw)

[naive briar]

I want to say they can just slowly stop supporting for p1 and make a p2 version but then Kallen exists...

[rustic stump]

True, but I still wonder if that’s the plan for img/qua AR valk

[rustic stump]

For now….

[vale granite]

I don't think IMG/QUA has anything to do with it really

Dudu's IMG to be a PE and TA replacement

Sparkle is QUA because she's Quantum in HSR

[rustic stump]

And Teri?

[vale granite]

Teri was the ~yearly QUA valk

[naive briar]

HI3 type counter didn't have to make sense, could have Bio Sparkle

[vale granite]

Actually a lot more than that passed

Ofc idk how far ahead they're planning on valk releases

Were they planning to release Sparkle when they were designing Teri?

[rustic stump]

Idk. It felt sus that used qua/img valk for pt 1 replacements

Could of easily been bio

Or stardust

[vale granite]

SD is too good

Gotta be careful with that

[rustic stump]

How so?

[vale granite]

SD cycles are quite common and are an absolute pain in the ass to bruteforce without the shard gather

I assume they don't want other teams to overperform in SD content

Gotta sell Sena/Songque/Badum after all

[grim notch]

That goes for every single types

[vale granite]

QUA maybe
IMG not really

[grim notch]

IMG/QUA

[rustic stump]

Sena fell off just like CE

[vale granite]

Sena still topscored some SD stuff even when Songque dropped

[grim notch]

I don't see any competetion with Dudu team on IMG

[vale granite]

She still is best on Lightning Gaymax

[vale granite]

Trio?

[grim notch]

Nah Trio too behind

[quasi glen]

Img only gets bad when core insta kill is on the table

[slate elm]

weren't there a few notable sena refs for sa recently at RL

[vale granite]

Sena still can bruteforce, CE is in the shitters

[slate elm]

saying sena fell off is weird man lol

[quasi glen]

Sena dps*

[slate elm]

even then i don't completely agree

[vale granite]

I mean, she did for the most part

[quasi glen]

[slate elm]

if you want to look at it in top scoring then sure every dps valk will become this niche at this point

[vale granite]

Songque and Badum stole everything except 1 boss

[rustic stump]

Vita replaced her and now Sena is just a good support

[slate elm]

huh

you don't use vita to dps SD content

[vale granite]

S0 Vita did not replace Sena as a WoD support

[slate elm]

yeah

[rustic stump]

Really ?

[slate elm]

they haven't ran bloodthirsty SD mobs recently actually. But I doubt vita takes that either

[vale granite]

Vita's buffs are worse in ele WoD if she doesn't have S2

[quasi glen]

Badummy should take sd mobbing iirc

[slate elm]

it's situational and in some cases you use both

yeah prob at this point

linking op

but vita and sena's situations have been pretty much separated as far as i can recall

[rustic stump]

I’ve been told otherwise

[slate elm]

elemental typing is only one of the many factors nowadays

i can't tell if we want to talk about top scores or bruteforcing anymore

[vale granite]

I assume there was more context to it

[slate elm]

if you want to speak RL bruteforcing then both were fine

[rustic stump]

There probably was and I didn’t notice lol

[slate elm]

just give me a point to stick to at least lol

[quasi glen]

I believe sena was pretty competitive to badummy on rl in last sd gay

[vale granite]

Well, RL is RL

[slate elm]

or else this is going to be another one of those discussions where people accuse each other of changing goal posts to make themselves right

[vale granite]

You can bruteforce Ranged Heph with fucking Vita there

Could at least

[craggy sentinel]

oo i love these convos

[oak yarrow]

well not anymore

[vale granite]

Yeah

[slate elm]

anyway actual valk viability and usage can greatly change depending on the tier and context overall

but aside from breach valks or just bruteforcing, i never got a strong vibe of sena and vita overlapping. idk

[glass nacelle]

why do people use sena in last hellmaru even if their vita is high rank

[vale granite]

Sena support was always for WoD really

While S0 Vita is WS and LoA

[slate elm]

vita is a bit more notable if you need to double ring but don't have a gacha op for ARI

[vale granite]

Maybe cuz of them being able to hit the breakpoints regardless of using Sena or Vita?

[slate elm]

since sena's breach runs out if you cannot thele evade farm

[vale granite]

It runs out only with DS tbf

[slate elm]

wow rip kiana elf lol

vita needing to spend more time to set up her breach compared to sena's instant passiveness makes even a stronger ranked vita a tough sell sometimes

[vale granite]

idk what that is cuz I don't have it

[grim notch]

SSS DS when?

[vale granite]

Ask Hoyo

[craggy sentinel]

because frick you

[rustic stump]

When Leylah’s battlesuit banner launches

[vale granite]

It's defo not 8.2 tho

[grim notch]

Not soon

Maybe next year

[rustic stump]

Maybe cny next year?

[grim notch]

Hope

[vale granite]

Leylah will be an AO trust

[rustic stump]

what’s AO?

[slate elm]

astral op

[vale granite]

AstralOp

[craggy sentinel]

a super mid one

[glass nacelle]

bcs u whel

[rustic stump]

No

[naive briar]

why not cn anni

[craggy sentinel]

[grim notch]

No lol

[rustic stump]

Make her playable valk

[naive briar]

if not Leylah give me the dragon on anni

[slate elm]

i'm still waiting for mini vitas op

[naive briar]

[craggy sentinel]

100% pulling if that becomes a thing

[naive briar]

SSS Vita mini
which Vita tho

[craggy sentinel]

especially if the so animation is 7 vitamins

[naive briar]

can we get blue Vita

[vale granite]

Considering the game it'll be only out of the female ones 😭

[slate elm]

as long as it one ups vill-v :V

it's so lyle over

[craggy sentinel]

@vale granite can you be the gpt to my chat❤️

[slate elm]

hey lyle's last name and vill-v stigs are both collodi

[grim notch]

Yep she deserve to be a playable valk

[slate elm]

something something half life

[vale granite]

I can be the deep to your seek

[naive briar]

[slate elm]

do we need a take your rizz elsewhere pin here too

[craggy sentinel]

cool i got a ton of english homework that im too lazy to do

[craggy sentinel]

[naive briar]

pin Sairaan up

[rustic stump]

How did we end up talking about Lyle?

He’s never becoming a Astral Op

[vale granite]

A male char would just not sell in HI3, ye

At least in CN

[rustic stump]

Unless they were gender bent

Somehow

[still condor]

That's just memeseeker

[rustic stump]

John Honkai

[vale granite]

Where's that "Vita is a female version of Su" theory

[naive briar]

let's ignore how CN called for playable Kevin yeah

[rustic stump]

Did they?

[still condor]

Su if he was annoying

[naive briar]

yes. No male. Except for Kevin

[rustic stump]

Then what happened?

[naive briar]

nothing

[vale granite]

Hoyo decided not to release him, end of story

[rustic stump]

That sucks

[slate elm]

apho2 was kinda the beta to astral ring stuff with its white heat mechanics. Lyle was basically the astral op to it.

But yes as teammate said, the main game emphasizes females, hence me adding the "-over" meme to it

[rustic stump]

Yeah I figured that out a while ago lol

[still condor]

Trio should've gotten a Kevin elf instead of a Kiana elf

[slate elm]

man the scary thing is that does exist

[rustic stump]

Wasn’t Kiana elf made by Kiana herself ?

[still condor]

Huh?

[naive briar]

well in the end some HI3 players went HSR just for a Kevin face
peaceful ending

[still condor]

She knows how to make elves?

[slate elm]

not all elves are strongly canonical to main story

[craggy sentinel]

just like ches valk

[slate elm]

we never really got much from kiana elf aside from that one cg/mv

[rustic stump]

Well Kiana Elf was in graduation and was walking towards her after the cg

[glass nacelle]

elf in 2025

[glass nacelle]

chesbad

[rustic stump]

I know

[craggy sentinel]

[naive briar]

description makes me think Elf Kiana is a reflection in Cocoon

[quasi glen]

How about dudu elf

[slate elm]

maybe people in the lore channel would have better ideas about this lol

[naive briar]

dudu Elf is not Dudu

[quasi glen]

How we get mini dabbing dudu

[slate elm]

du had a stronger role in durandal vn

[rustic stump]

I’ll ask

[still condor]

isnt that just a child kiana? same outfit sure but its got the proportions of an actual child, not an elf iirc

[naive briar]

Dudu elf is a creepy blade who loved pretty cute girls and became one

[slate elm]

fuxi, du, pb are the main ones i vividly recall having some greater weighted story moments

[quasi glen]

Makes sense

[slate elm]

oh and klein ofc

[rustic stump]

Both

[slate elm]

how could i forget klein

[quasi glen]

Ely elf forgotten

[vale granite]

Fr

[slate elm]

oops lmao

[naive briar]

Captain Shamash tho

[craggy sentinel]

ely elf too mid

[slate elm]

never got her :^)

[glass nacelle]

AO is better, elf bad

[slate elm]

t0 elf had significant story too actually

[glass nacelle]

[rustic stump]

Both because I’m sure that time travel isn’t a thing in HI3rd

[naive briar]

:0

[quasi glen]

Best we can get is time loops

[still condor]

im fairly certain that scene isnt a real thing

she didnt magically go from a train in space on the moon to a random snowy forest with a random kiana elf out of nowhere

[rustic stump]

It’s in her mind

[slate elm]

yeah it felt pretty open ended and more hypothetical than reality

kiana elf felt more like a message than an actual entity

but i mean if you really want to believe her as such it's all open to you

[rustic stump]

Really?

[naive briar]

btw AI chan is called Chrono Navi for a reason
although in the end she is just a cash seeker

[slate elm]

anyway i rather not discuss story so heavily here. I'm not a story guru

[rustic stump]

Ok

[muted mauve]

Kiana was in a train ride through the Finality to Origin of her story.

Not the same as time travel

[still condor]

if anything its more just devs wanted to make a kiana elf so they made a kiana elf
i doubt kiana herself actually created an elf

shes too stupid for that

[quasi glen]

vita seeker

[slate elm]

low key roasted rice cake

[rustic stump]

Could of been accidental 🤷🏾‍♀️

[vale granite]

Piyo projecting is crazy 🗿

[naive briar]

answer accepted

[still condor]

i dont think you can accidentally create an 'Equipment: Living Form'?

[rustic stump]

Cocoon Chan works in mysterious ways

[muted mauve]

ELF is just the EN name for it because old translator liked acronyms.

[slate elm]

ok if you guys want to deus ex machina, riddle me this

if senti can create a dkey, what if she creates an elf

[vale granite]

A dkey ELF would sell very well in P1

[quasi glen]

She accidentally created rice cake

I don't really see why not

[still condor]

didnt she sneak into rice cakes dream or something

[naive briar]

rice cake is not an ELF
Rice Cake to Kiana is the same as Vita to Sa

[slate elm]

it's not the same but people are taking the idea of creating very loosely right now

which is why i'm even making my dumb joke earlier

[quasi glen]

Yeah not elf but close enough in concept of accidentally creating a sentient being

[slate elm]

i'm disappointed nobody responded to me with senti shark btw

[quasi glen]

Senti shark?

[slate elm]

her summer outfit

[still condor]

anyways can we start getting bangboos instead of astral ops pls and thank you

[quasi glen]

O

[naive briar]

Their nature is bud of wishes so it is not material
ELFs are material

[quasi glen]

[slate elm]

senti's shark is also material

[naive briar]

they are too R16 for this game

[slate elm]

ok i'm done with this joke. I need to hop off. Have a good night everyone lol

[still condor]

https://tenor.com/view/bangboo-possessed-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-hoyo-gif-15289740452544193747

[naive briar]

Senti shark can be a good dkey

[glass nacelle]

lamp dkey

[still condor]

who would you make as the astral op if trio ever got one specifically for them

[naive briar]

Sushang said Bianka is shorter than her blade, just how long is her blade

[muted mauve]

1.5m

Sushang is only 2cm taller than Bianka btw

[copper shale]

so is sushang taller than her blade

wait wrong reply

[quasi glen]

Mini bianka or big bianka

[muted mauve]

mini

[quasi glen]

[muted mauve]

Bianka is 1.48, Sushang is 1.50

[copper shale]

so blade is 1.49

[quasi glen]

500 years of cryofreeze stunted her growth

[naive briar]

Sushang is 150 wdym big Durandal can be shorter

[quasi glen]

Poor sushi chan

[naive briar]

so true

[muted mauve]

her blade can be bigger than her

[gleaming imp]

Himeko

[naive briar]

it wouldn't be her ULT blade

[copper shale]

then how big is the blade

[naive briar]

normal people won't expect anyone to be bigger

[rustic stump]

That sounds awesome ngl

[muted mauve]

I can only think of either her great sword or the one she stays on top of

[naive briar]

It's bigger than Bianka smaller than Dirandal

[feral epoch]

new sushang is the same height as new kiana

[rustic sinew]

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

i forgot to exchange spending token

bye

[mossy escarp]

🐳

[naive briar]

whale behaviour. thanks for funding the game

[mossy escarp]

tf

[terse ravine]

WHAT

ISTG I

[still vine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1197360988580761712/1331060992200937473/kitty-puke-puke.gif

[smoky lintel]

Aponia again

[terse ravine]

[spice summit]

fucking helllll

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[feral epoch]

are there new beta update?

[clear vigil]

[glass nacelle]

Beta in 2025

[glass nacelle]

Best boss

[willow pumice]

nobita

[copper cosmos]

honkai writing: OH MY GOD this mysterious entity was actually a part of someone!!

how many times have they done this now

at least four times

[naive briar]

idk how do you count Senti

in lore Senti is a new lifeform but many players still count her as a part of Fu Hua
or say she's a daughter

[copper cosmos]

idk
maybe shes an alternative view on the same memories

so counting is
kiana/hov (though they’re both just parts of a shattered sirin)
knight/griseo
vita/sa
rice cake/kiana

what i wanna understand is mihoyos obsession with split psyches

like this happens every 5 seconds

is this like a hoyowriters special interest

[half shard]

ew boss

[naive briar]

knight is Griseo's memory of daddy

Vita is not a part of Sa but a bud of wishes, same as Rice cake of Kiana

[copper cosmos]

i thought that she also considered it Herself that split off so she could comfort herself

or as in griseos colors separating

[naive briar]

two sides of the same coin is a basic thing in taichi or tao
everything inner connects

[copper cosmos]

well i mean it more in the like
ig philosophical sense
like vita being sa quite literally taking what makes her “human” or whatever and putting it into vita

cutting it off

not like They Are The Same Consciousness

luckily we now have the nicest beautifulest full of love vita

[naive briar]

Vita in thay sense is still the exact same as Sa, not a different part
all the darker quality of Sa is still with Vita

the acting direction was also exactly the same for them

[copper cosmos]

eli5 cuz
i thought part of why sa didn’t like vita was bc she was like her past self

i may be bad at reading

the traits that she threw away to pursue divinity

[naive briar]

Sa cannot face her own past, yes
because Vita was exactly the same as her
the small Vitas were the ones with Sa's discarded virtues, not Vita

[gleaming imp]

At least I have s2 horb now for my brick

[vale granite]

iirc Brick sucks on Apo even in RL

[copper cosmos]

so is vita version controlled sa?

(like, a sa from the past before she got Divine™️)

[naive briar]

[plucky cradle]

demoot time

[copper cosmos]

i gotta read ch 41 again

https://youtu.be/q2cQgsuZ8B8?feature=shared 17:51 ig depends on how you think about things, you could interpret this however

but admittedly im way more tuned into the emotional stuff than the Literal Cosmology of hi3 which i know jack about atp

my mind melts to think about it

[glass nacelle]

Where beta

[hard meadow]

holiday

[naive briar]

AI chan sleeping

[copper cosmos]

wake her up

[gleaming imp]

Why can't we have thumbnail look as skin

[winter dirge]

yaaaaaawn-

[copper cosmos]

cuz its fov head on ns body

[grand viper]

[gleaming imp]

Exactly

[feral epoch]

hotf not ns

[gleaming imp]

Fov should have all fu hua looks as a skin with just fov head attached on it

[copper cosmos]

then youd sss her

[half shard]

p1 boomer , doesnt pull Fuhua battlesuit , not even touch FoV ADV

[naive briar]

should move this to nerd chat
Sa had already gone on her path of Divine before the virtue split
Vita was an exact same copy accrodding to staff

[gleaming imp]

I'll pull for p2 fu hua

[naive briar]

p2 Senti

[gleaming imp]

Her leap supply since leap supplies are way cheaper than p1 adv supplys

[glass nacelle]

No beta today ?

Oh beta is out

Wow they added sampo in album

Sss sampo soon

[craggy sentinel]

if no ches valk then i’ll settle for sss ches

[glass nacelle]

Wtf bleed hoc and bleed clock

[vale granite]

Bleed clock?

[naive briar]

the hack Sparkle and Vita flirting in pokedex and got caught by wife AI
@somber egret keep your Vita well

[vale granite]

My favorite boss

[glass nacelle]

Ew

[vale granite]

Is it the regular hitcount version or are there new mechanics

[glass nacelle]

Should be hit count

[craggy sentinel]

sacrifice three lambs or the gods wont be satisfied

[vale granite]

I sacrifice a lamb every summer with friends

[craggy sentinel]

fookin whel

[glass nacelle]

I heard sushang deals 100% bleed dmg now

[vale granite]

ik I should skip, but I promised to myself not to skip Phys valks 😭

[craggy sentinel]

what in the mid

we’re gonna get bleed bosses shoved down our throats

[vale granite]

What will happen to Pishacha tho, doesn't it need Bleed stacking

[craggy sentinel]

sus sus badum

[vale granite]

If only

[half shard]

omg

[willow pumice]

Did you read the comment section

[glass nacelle]

what

[willow pumice]

oh no, someone in the bbs post said that 100% bleed too, thought you read t here

[spice summit]

Inb4 3 weeks of bleed weathers

Bleed and bio shilling time

[short knoll]

more boss added for v3, new?

[craggy sentinel]

even worse, bio bleed hc

[glass nacelle]

my friend said it

[short knoll]

i expect lot of bug for bleed boss

[glass nacelle]

he is testing

[spice summit]

Bio bleed hc and phys

[glass nacelle]

sss trashcan when

[short knoll]

just skip

[glass nacelle]

ew

525 now

[short knoll]

luna bruteforce

[craggy sentinel]

lubern live again

lubern dkey basically confirmed

[abstract night]

Another clock?

[glass nacelle]

"Dmg dealt by QTE, NA (include combo atk), wp, stellar shift is considered as bleed dmg"

[main goblet]

how cooked am i if i try to brute force bleed HoC and bleed husk without any good bleed options..

[abstract night]

...shes vq (but bio) now?

[willow pumice]

my fren said it too

[willow pumice]

what about ur friend

[craggy sentinel]

ripege

[glass nacelle]

[main goblet]

[short knoll]

a bit weird to make her bleed dps, half bleed half phys make more sense if she support future bleed dps

[willow pumice]

Wait but Ult still not bleed

V4 ult will be bleed too, trust

[short knoll]

wait, what about her crit buff?

[main goblet]

wait wait wait wasn't her stellar shift phy dmg or am i tripping??
her ult is also phy dmg

[willow pumice]

Yea so she still can benefit from crit DMG buff for Ult

[abstract night]

Idk if i should be sad.

[main goblet]

hmm

[short knoll]

her stellar shift has crit buff iirc?

[abstract night]

...atleast lv can compete ish right?

Cuz neutral bosses

[willow pumice]

what neutral

oh typing

[abstract night]

Yeah

[short knoll]

should be fine for red lotus

[willow pumice]

nah

[abstract night]

Should of specified rl lol

[willow pumice]

LV has her boss, sus has her own boss

typical p2 valk

[abstract night]

:(

Im definitely getting her in the first 10

[glass nacelle]

her ult is bleed, maybe it's ult tab

[willow pumice]

oh

[short knoll]

so they remove her own crit buff?

[main goblet]

i have good funds for next patch i can get sus + wp but i don't want to do that just for the 8.3 valk to be broken
but i also have no bio and bleed valks that i can use

[feral epoch]

need luck for her

[abstract night]

Itd be nice to get her tho
Id have a HoH/vita replacment for my badum :(
I like bleed valks

[main goblet]

wait rlly?

[glass nacelle]

tf

[short knoll]

more hsr content real

[feral epoch]

vita again

[abstract night]

Ew

[plucky cradle]

oh hi there

[abstract night]

What is that literal trash doing here..

[short knoll]

sparkle is just slightly better than badum

[abstract night]

The trash can... is fine i guess....that literal trash? Absolutely not (no bias frfr)

[willow pumice]

ew

blue number

[short knoll]

v4, no more bleed dmg

[willow pumice]

actually lore accurate cus sushang is ice valk

[abstract night]

HoH has competition now

[willow pumice]

[main goblet]

lmao

[muted mauve]

ew Collab stuff

delete

[main goblet]

does that mean that she can stack a lot of bleed now?

[glass nacelle]

no

[main goblet]

hmm

[willow pumice]

Oh yea

That means pishacha is still susan's

[feral epoch]

why is vita bis in 2 rings

[abstract night]

Shes a fall anniversay valk thats why

()

[somber egret]

Throw Sparkle back to Star Rail

[glass nacelle]

It means sushang doesn't need dudu anymore

[naive briar]

congrats for going back to being single?

[abstract night]

Does she like kiana?

[gleaming imp]

Omg besties

[steep axle]

Why does she even need dudu

Is it shieldbreak

[strange crystal]

it feels like luna will get a dk in the near future as another p2 bleed valk... they just can't make up their mind on sushang

[short knoll]

v4, sushang is now ice valk

[muted mauve]

I hope there's no more collabs.

1. Because version extension (don't want to wait 9 weeks for a character from another game)
2. Because the HSR collab was at the cost of HI3's story and characters, so I lost trust

[plucky cradle]

amg ice valk real

[short knoll]

it's inevitable that we will get more hsr content

[vale granite]

How exactly was it at the cost of HI3's story? Genuinely curious

[strange crystal]

Wait, so she's a fake physical dps? All are bleed dmg now???

[short knoll]

sparkle did good enough in term of money

[plucky cradle]

she a fully bleed dps now

like susannah

[strange crystal]

I read the last as "memory" instead of money lmao

[strange crystal]

can sus stack bleed?

[plucky cradle]

yes

[feral epoch]

which sus

[plucky cradle]

oh I thought you asked about susannah

idk about sushang lol

[strange crystal]

oh sushang hahaha the new sus

[naive briar]

the patch made a big revenue but
HI3 story flow and reasoning was terribly ruined

[vale granite]

Gotta use sush now

[muted mauve]

Invasion of HSR elements in chapter 5, taking away the time from the actual plot for something completely unrelated. Also taking away Kiana's first appearance into part 2 for a HSR exposition scene.

Introducing a character that just knows all the mysteries from Mars by simply existing when a big point of the story is the mystery.

[vale granite]

Yeah, that's fair

[strange crystal]

hmmmm

[feral epoch]

and where's sparkle now in main story

[naive briar]

in collab 2

[supple furnace]

[muted mauve]

thankfully nowhere.

but can't trust it won't change in the future with how much they keep referencing her every patch

[naive briar]

the main story was a horrible mess
the event... was half and half. gameplay good

[plucky cradle]

gimme more gambling

[glass nacelle]

Gambling good

[strange crystal]

feels like they originally want sushang to be a replacement of senti and susannah but don't want her to be too powerful that she'll also take luna bosses. maybe in v4 she'll be able to stack bleed too

[glass nacelle]

**too week

[plucky cradle]

half cv half bleed = bad

100% bleed = good

[glass nacelle]

Real

[strange crystal]

sus just going back to her roots of being ice valk

[plucky cradle]

[muted mauve]

Lines like these make me

好姐姐,什么时候再去看我们最最喜欢的马戏团表演呀?
和火星神明玩耍这事不急不急,让美味发酵一会~

[plucky cradle]

[naive briar]

why remind me of that....

[abstract night]

sadly I cant read it nor understand it so im good

[copper shale]

i can read it but im not a plot nerd so

[muted mauve]

because it's in line with the topic

[feral epoch]

give luck

[muted mauve]

why did they put her on Ruimu

[twin dune]

Good sister, when will we go to see our favorite circus again?
There is no rush to play with the Martian gods, let the deliciousness ferment for a while~

Sorry i had to translate

[twin dune]

At this point i expect liliya to become the next AR valk honestly