🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[final locust]

give us a dps that has ranged attacks with good hitcount please

so she can fully die

maybe that new sushang if shes a valk, old sushang was ranged and had good hitcount iirc

[glass nacelle]

vita exists

i was wondering if there was phys ws valk what astralop would she use

[edgy drift]

The most likely case is just that they won't

[glass nacelle]

they added it for lantern in v3 kek

[final locust]

probably just DS and theyd have to give her 100% cr

[edgy drift]

They thought about it more after that and gave up

[final locust]

her hitcount isnt good tho

its decent

lantern's hitcount is crazy and the bulk of it has timestop

[gleaming imp]

Lampbad

[glass nacelle]

[final locust]

are u a lamp fan or sth

[glass nacelle]

a bit

[final locust]

ew

[prisma tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/artoria-fate-stay-night-excalibur-gif-18076510

[glass nacelle]

[prisma tartan]

[somber egret]

[grand viper]

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

is the most popular now

[grand viper]

how did aichan crystals beat senastare ?

= 38,437 results
= 10,517 results

[glass nacelle]

[somber egret]

[unique swallow]

Decent is good enough

[glass nacelle]

[feral epoch]

songque

[glass nacelle]

only got buff from sss kek

[feral epoch]

if the valks convert ele to phys then it's fine

[unique swallow]

Wat

[copper shale]

songque valk has this thing that turns team ele bonuses into phys

otherwise sena dont buff songque iirc

all sena is ele

[somber egret]

songque valk does not convert elem dmg into phys dmg

[copper shale]

oh what converts it then

me giving misinfo

[vale granite]

The valks just give Phys bonuses on top of ele ones, no?

[copper shale]

rly? maybe me completely misremembered

[somber egret]

It's if JDS is in Elem Breach State, she deals more Physical and Total DMG

[copper shale]

mb yea it wasnt convert she just gets something diff

im bout to be banned

goodbye world

[vale granite]

We don't get any PRI mat boxes in 8.1, right? Or did I miss smth

[copper shale]

we do get it

[vale granite]

Maybe I am a gacha player

Thx

They better be early, otherwise I'm gonna cry

[still vine]

half of those are probably me

[feral epoch]

other than artbook rewards, we get everything the same as cn server

[copper shale]

artbook where

[vale granite]

The artbook was just Chinese propaganda

[short knoll]

on certain website

[feral epoch]

no one posted it online like the first one iirc

[copper shale]

locked behind the events

[short knoll]

same place as vol 1 2

[feral epoch]

hmm

[copper shale]

just buy bp and u wont have problem

[glass nacelle]

whel

[vale granite]

How much PRI mats does Knight even give

[copper shale]

just 40 torus from bp alone, but u can convert crystallum

and u can buy out honkai shard as well as the other priarm mat

[vale granite]

Oh, right, I forgot about the balls

How did Lantern compare to HoHE on TC Kasumi?

[feral epoch]

i don't think i can find it, do you mind to DM me?

[copper shale]

like 50 points gap vs ss0/ss1 ely with ss sera

[vale granite]

Doesn't sound too bad tbh considering CN dist

Assuming you're talking about Nirv that is

[copper shale]

i think s2 ely still beats lantern

[copper shale]

no it was rl

[vale granite]

😭

[copper shale]

full ely team with thel and ss sera is just another lvl

[glass nacelle]

lantern needs rank

[copper shale]

yea

basically high rank only

s0 lantern just cry

[glass nacelle]

s2 hohe too

[vale granite]

How does S2 compare to SS+?

[copper shale]

s2 hohe should be a tiny bit better
but i dont remember anymore

[copper shale]

no idea should be big gap tho

[vale granite]

😭

[copper shale]

cuz keksumi has a 2 so rotation and a 3 so rotation for rl

the diff is like 30? points

if u high rank then u can do it

[glass nacelle]

every rank of hohe is big upgrade

[feral epoch]

myriad in keksumi weather full of sss hoh

[still vine]

my hohe is s1 already, then I guess I can get s3 from supply shop maybe

i don't know where to get the remaining frags for SS though

[vale granite]

Am I gonna get diffed by Bacon? 😭 😭

[copper shale]

no point tho imo

not worth chasing for ranks if not ss alr

just wait for thel supply

[still vine]

[vale granite]

I should've predicted the future and bought these HoHE stamps in 7.3-7.6 (?) 🗿

[somber egret]

just wait for new elysia

[feral epoch]

in other games

[copper shale]

new sw!

[glass nacelle]

quite surprised when lantern is top score at b server
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV11xFKeJEpH

[vale granite]

APHO Mei

[copper shale]

yea

[still vine]

[copper shale]

but tldr is high rank lantern maybe compete

maybe ios d too high and b server d is just right

[glass nacelle]

Lantern rank is focused on support

[copper shale]

raw atk

[glass nacelle]

[somber egret]

them sleeping, I think 9S Ely can get more than 810, a little bit

[copper shale]

what did ios get

[somber egret]

Vita SSS-rank Skill is just that useless

[glass nacelle]

elybad => ppl sleep

[feral epoch]

both bad

[copper shale]

wat matters is just having her, cuz she still has ???

and ranks for support dont matter

just need +3 dkey

[somber egret]

[glass nacelle]

791~792 iirc

[copper shale]

[glass nacelle]

luna food again ew

[still vine]

good thing it's MA so who cares

[copper shale]

good

but everyone be s2/ss luna

idk if s0 can still compete

[feral epoch]

can

[glass nacelle]

ez sleep

[willow perch]

that's not sleep teri smh

[copper shale]

[somber egret]

[willow perch]

[glass nacelle]

waiting for someone to use hohe

[copper shale]

gl getting pass that bleed shield

[glass nacelle]

[copper shale]

its just dmg reduction tho ig if u have the magic dmg

when 8.2 stream

[glass nacelle]

1 month

[glass nacelle]

[copper shale]

patch too long fr

[feral epoch]

sleep patch

[glass nacelle]

Get used to it because every patch will be like this

[supple furnace]

Insane

[somber egret]

more weeks more abyss more crystals

[copper shale]

suffer longer for skipping

[feral epoch]

only LoA tank that has yet to run for now?

[glass nacelle]

ye

5/6 new weather is out

[copper shale]

no shieldbreak 坚盾 sk?

[somber egret]

forgotten

[glass nacelle]

tc sk where

[short knoll]

i recall someone posted the link on fb, seem like i remember it wrong

[glass nacelle]

i remember we have shieldbreak mob but it's ded

[copper shale]

【就玩就玩，9s+1虚三家批发官服红莲物伤千律801-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/VxYFGt5

[noble cobalt]

So if Elysia automatically ults if you swap to her during stellar outburst... if techically you were to trigger wheel of destiny SO with like, senadina, and then immediately swap to Elysia, would it do more damage than triggering SO with Elysia since the combo would be Senadina's stellar assault damage on top of Elysia's ultimate activation damage...?

And if you trigger SO with senadina, immediately ult, and then swap to Elysia so Elysia automatically triggers her own ultimate, you technically wouldn't lose any time on Elysia's stellar outburst...

[copper shale]

there's no reason for u to be on sena tho

[noble cobalt]

I was just using her as an example but i just randomly had this thought and wanted to know if anyone else had thought of it LOL

[copper shale]

but idk if it does deal more dmg, sometimes theres this bug with shadows u just lose dmg

[noble cobalt]

I was thinking that since, the activation of SO + using an ultimate doesnt spend any time on the stage timer you could activate SO with like senadina or reign solaris, immediately ult for a tiny amount of extra damage, and then swap to your WoD valk and do the normal rotation

It sounds really dumb but idk if anyones tried it before

[copper shale]

well idk u can try as well, but i dont think ive seen any rot that lines up to this

majority of the time u would be on thel if playing wod, and so u def need to swap

[noble cobalt]

I recorded an example of what im referencing... are we allowed to send vids in this channel

[copper shale]

u can, also maybe ask in gameplay help or something since its not exactly cn gameplay

[noble cobalt]

oh yeah ur right

[somber egret]

much better, cause I'm confused with "switch to elysia during stellar outburst"

Ahhh okay

Understood, answer is no

[unique swallow]

Aiguides best

[glass nacelle]

【没鹅等似 红莲511扰动物伤千人之律者 s0+1松薇+1爱765分-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/3d2UcPz

When u want to put elysia in abyss

[ember locust]

She's the best

Best waifu

[tiny jolt]

who are NY Kiana and DY Elysia's best supports?

[junior nova]

For NY kiana it's sparkle, vita and songque

[hazy seal]

Badum Kiana: depends

• Sparkle / Vita:
  the former if you think you have Confident DMG = Quick Kill (Since Timestop)
  The Lader to improve dmg in general

• Dudu: Thick Shield

• DK Ely: Tank Boss

• Songque: SD Boss

DY Ely: Thelema (shocked) + Vita (Sena if don't have Vita)

[still vine]

i thought vita was only better for WOD if she's SS

[gleaming imp]

Vita on top 🛐

[hoary mountain]

vitagood?

[novel elbow]

always has been

[copper shale]

just depends on d vita vs sena for ely

[feral epoch]

vitabait

[copper shale]

official server was sena

ios was vita

in most cases they r the same

except sena faster

[feral epoch]

vita only needed for loa homu weather and maybe andrius loa, else can use subtitute

[copper shale]

wat matters more for loa/wod is having ss aop

[limber cliff]

Is lantern still worth getting? Should i pull her in Rotation supply

[gleaming imp]

Lampbad

[limber cliff]

So Save for Solaris instead

[gleaming imp]

Dudubad

[willow pumice]

Just save for next valk

[limber cliff]

Im only missing those two Part valks tho and I have sss hare and Seele rebirth but no third support for my hare

[gleaming imp]

Prometheus? Griseo?

[limber cliff]

U think so?

[willow pumice]

Eh well see

[limber cliff]

I do have griseo and her gear but isn’t she lowkey very outdated

[gleaming imp]

Yes, lamp is not that good

Lampbad

[limber cliff]

Cuz of ur name, when are we finally getting the third book

[willow pumice]

By the time RS reruns on week 8, we will have info on next valk

[willow pumice]

Never

[gleaming imp]

She’ll work for your hare

[limber cliff]

Alright

[limber cliff]

Actually?😭

[willow pumice]

[limber cliff]

Wait I realized I can use the free 20 pulls on lantern

May get her there

Or should I go for one of the others? (I have all on base s)

[feral epoch]

if you want rank up then maybe thelema s2

[willow pumice]

Yea thelema has the most noticeable skill change at s2 compared to others

But it’s 20 pulls, you will most likely not get anything anyway so dont get your hopes up

[oak pecan]

20 thelema in 20 pulls

[limber cliff]

So go for s2 Thelma instead of lantern

[feral epoch]

lantern is a good choice if missing the valk and get lucky on carnival supply, can get 620 crystals from it in er

[limber cliff]

What a reason to go for her

[slate elm]

can cover symphony as a fire type too, or provide hitcount utility as a support

but those aren't very strong reasons overall if you're missing other things

[willow pumice]

Oh wait you said you have all. If you dont have lantern can try her actually. Get all valks.

[dense harness]

I have this, for 20 free pulls on rotation, should i try Thelema (for the skin + Ely) or should i try Songque (i di have her weap that came in 2 pulls randomly)

[abstract night]

SS sparkle crazy

Can u donate a copy

I want her

[gleaming imp]

SS sparkle without adv

[gleaming imp]

Breath question what’s give you more nostalgia/appeals to your nostalgia more? Eepy Teri or teriteri aop

[unique swallow]

Just luccsacc

[abstract night]

VP

[gleaming imp]

Between eepy Teri and teriteri aop

[abstract night]

Neither

[dense harness]

I'll keep her

[gleaming imp]

[gleaming imp]

But the nostalgia appeal

[dense harness]

She came S around 70 and then 1 sparkle per 10 pull after that

[gleaming imp]

90 pulls total for a SS valk

[dense harness]

Exactly

[abstract night]

VP gives me more "nostolgia" bc i used her when i was a noob and she was fun i suppose

[abstract night]

Whyd u keep pulling then?

[feral epoch]

flexer

[dense harness]

Because Sparkle, and while i played HI3 for a while now, i also have her in HSR

[main goblet]

i wanna say songque because you can make her work with her weapon and while thelema would be a better choice for ely and as a dps, you lack her weapon which will make her awkward
i won't say that's my final opinion but i do wanna share

[abstract night]

I also own her in the other honkai...but anyways no more h talk
Only hi3

[gleaming imp]

I wish she had a use in my account in hsr, I have ruan Mei and robin so sparkle use where? Even my e1 bronya sees more use

I got sparkle for what

[dense harness]

(get Lunae)

[gleaming imp]

Male bad

[dense harness]

Thx for the opinion

[main goblet]

i must say that since its the free pulls, you might also end up with nothing so i don't encourage that you depend heavily on winning them when deciding who to pull rn

[dense harness]

Yeh i know, got nothing last time but i do wonder if i get something, coz luck is unpredictable, could and could not happen we dunno

[main goblet]

mhm

[shrewd socket]

too old

[abstract night]

I like my lunae :(

[gleaming imp]

Speaking of hsr I hope they do another collab valk

[abstract night]

Nty

I got my fill of collabs

[gleaming imp]

But hsr collab valk draws in new players and that characters simps

[abstract night]

And kills off some old players

[gleaming imp]

I don’t see why a old player would drop the game for that, I’m a p1 boomer and still stayed

[glass nacelle]

Need more collab

More save

[feral epoch]

[glass nacelle]

Sparkle ez skip

[abstract night]

Key word: I

Italics dont work as well if its just one letter...and its an i

[unique swallow]

Sparkle’s inclusion in the lore was illogical and made many lore players unhappy

[abstract night]

Idek why she was added in the lore tbh

Wasnt there a memokeeper

[gleaming imp]

But it gives possibility of vita in hsr

[abstract night]

Think they just altered their (the people in the story) memories or sumthing
Idek

[abstract night]

That would be a hi3 collab (in hsr)
Not hsr collab (in hi3)

[glass nacelle]

Ez skip

[gleaming imp]

Also I really enjoyed seeing sparkle and vita being besties

[abstract night]

^

[feral epoch]

i don't enjoy

[glass nacelle]

Madoka collab pls

[abstract night]

It's all opinionated

[feral epoch]

where sparkle now in main story

[gleaming imp]

She dipped

[unique swallow]

Gone like drya’s acc value

[abstract night]

[glass nacelle]

Gone

[abstract night]

~~THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF INCLUDING HER ~~

[gleaming imp]

My account has value still I was able top score on senawho boss and I have trio and s2 vita

[unique swallow]

Exactly

[neat yoke]

Better write character properly, instead of ruining her for the sake of other game

[unique swallow]

There was no point

[abstract night]

Thats stupid

Just call the chapter she appeared in "noncanon"

[neat yoke]

That's not how it works.

[dense harness]

Make it an filler quest and not a main quest if you don't want to include her permanently i'd say

[abstract night]

:(
I know
Just coping

[dense harness]

But hoyo say nah

[short knoll]

well, they are trying to push the hoyoverse idea, more hsr stuffs will come, sparkle is just the start

[abstract night]

[glass nacelle]

Just marketing kek

[short knoll]

dont worry, eos before more hsr appear

[glass nacelle]

Nice

[gleaming imp]

I really want my queens like jingliu, Kafka, black swan etc would be interesting to see their take on DoT in hi3 since black swan is wind and Kafka is triggering multiple that isn’t just one dot type

Bleed + ignite in one valk?

[shrewd socket]

DoT is ass

[gleaming imp]

[glass nacelle]

Dot in 2025

Any idea about next rerun ?

[gleaming imp]

For small Dudu?

Should be like post spending event so like week 7-9 probably

[feral epoch]

and her boss is already running

[glass nacelle]

Kek

Sena adv trust

Sd mob is coming

[gleaming imp]

The start of a new era for a adv enjoyer such as much myself just about like 4-5 more patches of waiting to pull on a adv

[feral epoch]

enjoy without spending event in spending event patch

[plucky cradle]

[abstract night]

I hope pt2 valks dont have adv's just to prove a point

[gleaming imp]

They need advs to bait people to swipe

[full iris]

DOT in here is what, the 2nd coming for ignite and bleed

no, in here we mald for crits

[somber egret]

people would bite on swiping in new bp instead of wasting it on adv

[short knoll]

but new bp isn't something that will make ppl spend more

[glass nacelle]

next week

[plucky cradle]

boring event

[glass nacelle]

[short knoll]

boring patch

[plucky cradle]

9 week long patch and no fun content smh

[dawn cypress]

they need to change story back to part 1 style with short animes at end of chapters

[plucky cradle]

they got no money for that now

[dawn cypress]

they can do it for ZZZ, star rail

[plucky cradle]

those earn much more

[glass nacelle]

part 1 style = yapping

[plucky cradle]

go back to stages

[dawn cypress]

i mean its sorta still yapping in part 2 just a lot more cause not many cg

[glass nacelle]

[short knoll]

i think the cutscene quality is good enough that i dont need new animation, but still want new song

[dawn cypress]

new songs are usually with new animations

[glass nacelle]

they often add new song here

[short knoll]

nothing to say that they can't put new song elsewhere

[plucky cradle]

barely 5' animation no cash left for new song

eos when

[dawn cypress]

uhhh V10.0

eos at end of part 2?

[plucky cradle]

eos tomorrow pls

[dawn cypress]

they kinda trying to make hi3 like the other games with semi open world story

[plucky cradle]

they had that ages before other games

should just go back to stages openworld sucks

[glass nacelle]

they reduced amount of yapping so story got shorter and shorter

[plucky cradle]

delete story when

[dawn cypress]

i think story is literally the main part of hi3

[plucky cradle]

they added summaries on skip button like zzz

[glass nacelle]

delete life when

[dawn cypress]

other than that its just dailies and the occasional events which seems to be reruns

[plucky cradle]

delete kurowhel when

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

second collab for more ooc Vita pls

[dawn cypress]

they making the game so lazy now with all the auto complete daily stuff tickets lol

[plucky cradle]

as they should

[dawn cypress]

login, just auto complete the missions then dip until the next day lol

[novel elbow]

bring coop back siigh

[glass nacelle]

and bald in abyss

[plucky cradle]

story summary's added to skip button too

[dawn cypress]

story usually can be completed in like 2 days

[plucky cradle]

worst mode ever

[dawn cypress]

i think its like ~6 hours

[short knoll]

that's good, ppl dont want to do daily manually

[plucky cradle]

I hated raids to the core of my bones

[dawn cypress]

i never did raids cause it was boring

[glass nacelle]

spend 3 hours to +1 point

[plucky cradle]

and people are annoying every so often

[novel elbow]

make it better but bring it back i think no coops is one of the reasons why game is dying

[plucky cradle]

for leaving mid run

[novel elbow]

[glass nacelle]

pvp event is enough

[plucky cradle]

abyss lite when

[glass nacelle]

pay 200$ to lite 999 points

[short knoll]

they could make coop better by removing team requirement but i guess it's not worth

[dawn cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/kianakaslanaflamesciongif-gif-27159475

the animations also, the story just aint as interesting without them

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel buying off mhy for top 1 myriad every cycle:

[short knoll]

like if someone quit, i can still solo it

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

[plucky cradle]

domyevent

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

let's just add every event to chronicles and never rerun them again

[dawn cypress]

the 9 week patches are kinda odd tho

[glass nacelle]

domychest

[plucky cradle]

domyabyss

[glass nacelle]

no dudu => demoot

[plucky cradle]

no dudu => uninstall

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

this patch so boring I only got 1/4 of total content done so far

[glass nacelle]

finished all

[plucky cradle]

domyevent

[glass nacelle]

sleep

[plucky cradle]

they should just send us free xtals thru mailbox next time instead of rerunning events

[glass nacelle]

free 2800 crys per week

[plucky cradle]

*28000

[glass nacelle]

10 prism = 28k

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel = sebadina

leylah hunting for u

[glass nacelle]

:run:

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1W7wZeeE3r

p2 is tanky

[steady granite]

I miss my wife

[plucky cradle]

557d

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

only read new hohe's ego signet effect with dkey just now and realized it provides 2022% additional dmg per core signet for the finisher

[copper shale]

6 cores time

[plucky cradle]

12 cores time

[glass nacelle]

12/8/2022 ew

[plucky cradle]

is that her release date

[golden comet]

Real

[glass nacelle]

ely in 2025

[plucky cradle]

[full iris]

never ask ely fans what happen pn 12th Aug 2022

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kmAce6EZg

170k views for homework

[plucky cradle]

[tranquil mica]

after hohe gets her divine key what will be her best team where she is the dps?

[abstract night]

It includes Thelema ik that

[golden comet]

I think it's lantern thelema?? It always includes thelema

[hoary mountain]

its not sena thele?

can lantern just stop being meta already

[willow pumice]

any one of these

[plucky cradle]

sena thele >

[edgy drift]

she's not tho, she's awful

[unique swallow]

^

there's like pretty much 0 use cases for her lol

[glass nacelle]

[hoary mountain]

isnt she still good for jovial songque?

[unique swallow]

good one

[hoary mountain]

am i just out of the loop??

wwhats Jovial que's best team rn??

[glass nacelle]

thel lantern

[hoary mountain]

???

why am i being laughed at for?

[willow pumice]

thel lantern yes

[glass nacelle]

nice name

[willow pumice]

its the maincord its normal to get kek answers

[hoary mountain]

[willow pumice]

very special ar

[hoary mountain]

damn its stinky chatter hour

[willow pumice]

Well I guess it also kinda depends on ranks and boss

[glass nacelle]

lantern is used 3 times in this patch, 8.1 still not

lampover

[muted mauve]

Top 3 all 1 point apart

Truly PE 2.0

[feral epoch]

no SpA 3.0

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel 2.0 when

[urban cloud]

What topscores stardust weather? (Next abyss for glb)

[muted mauve]

Kiana

[urban cloud]

Ah
Is there a debuff for any elements? Or just buff for SD type?

[muted mauve]

the later

[plucky cradle]

songbad

[urban cloud]

Oh
I guess I can kinda get away with sq cope

Also does badum kiana need any ranks for nirv?

[plucky cradle]

SSS +3

[glass nacelle]

denwhel moment

[unique swallow]

no

[glass nacelle]

SSS+3 or brick

[vapid maple]

Have we ever gotten a pt2 bio type valk yet?

[muted mauve]

no

[vapid maple]

Wtf damn, and already 3 mech types

[muted mauve]

Last Bio Valk was the last P1 Valk. That's why

[unique swallow]

2

[vapid maple]

Helia, Thelema, and Vita-

[unique swallow]

i pretend helia does not exist

scam valk

[hoary mountain]

why and how the hell is your UI right to left

[feral epoch]

use the sort button

[muted mauve]

learn to use your sort settings smh

wdym whale

[feral epoch]

has all p2 valks except sparkle

[muted mauve]

Because P2 is dirty cheap.

6 monthlies. That's all I bought.

I should buy more tbh.

[unique swallow]

by how much

carv help what does it say in cn server

[muted mauve]

that is what skill/stigmata

[unique swallow]

solon

[feral epoch]

and dirty luck

[unique swallow]

ely new stig

[muted mauve]

No. This account has had avg luck.

[muted mauve]

35% CD reduc, 30% TDM Taken reduc

[unique swallow]

hor

ty

[feral epoch]

can afford to pull vita after pulling teri and songque even lantern is not avg luck

[glass nacelle]

nice localization

[unique swallow]

kekfacepalm~1

[ember locust]

Damn Sena Support shill WTF, when she will be stopped

[feral epoch]

what sena shill

[glass nacelle]

in 2030

[ember locust]

Sena Support Shill

Is what I meant to say

[muted mauve]

the only luck sac there was Teri.

[feral epoch]

can afford to pull back to back is still not avg luck

[ember locust]

My account, except for HoHe : "Wtf is luck sac"

[glass nacelle]

if sparkle rerun, maybe i will try my luck on it

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel 3S+3 spork when

[glass nacelle]

when denwhel funds

[plucky cradle]

[golden comet]

FUCK

[unique swallow]

What

[ember locust]

So basically tank and less CD OwO

[muted mauve]

What

[golden comet]

Was the message I replied to not a nerf

[muted mauve]

[golden comet]

I'll take that as a no cool

[verbal mountain]

35% cooldown reduction and 30% total damage taken (by the valkyrie) reduction

both are positive effects

[limber cliff]

Anyone knows where to get a clear picture of elysia background? The new background when she does her ultimate after activating astral ring

Or does anyone already have it

The pink Jesus like elysia appearing behind her yk

[muted mauve]

just go to the because of you animation

[small wing]

1.5 years later I'm almost done with my dorm levels

[ember locust]

I'm missing some levels too on my dorm

[abstract night]

U dont have lvl 45?

[ember locust]

38 if I remember well ?

How tf I could go lvl 45 if I don't even have all valyries I own to SS

[abstract night]

Sp valks?

[ember locust]

Only 3-4 being in SSS

The rest is either S or SS in the recent ones (Pardo and after)

[abstract night]

So..

RC
GD
SI
CN
VQ
TA
SSB
CE

[ember locust]

Eden, Kira, Helia and Coralie are SSS

[abstract night]

Woopsies

[ember locust]

Susanah is S

CE is SS

Pardo is also SS

TA is SS if I remember well

CN too

SI is S

[abstract night]

Jeez
Woopsies

[ember locust]

I'm pretty sure the SP valks bonuses goes up to SSS for dorms ?

[abstract night]

180 points max

[abstract night]

Think so?

[ember locust]

Let me perform a quick check up

Holy crap

[ember locust]

It does go to SSS, 15 max each valk

Only the really old valks gives only 5 max

32 XP left to acquire

[mint cape]

Is there gonna be a banner for Thelema tomorrow? If no how can I pull her?

[final locust]

no, the only way to get her without bricking is to lucksack on carnival supply with the free 10xs or wait for bp

[fervent hinge]

(and there's not a 100% guarantee she'll be in bp)

[mint cape]

Oh that's good. Because I heard were getting 20 free pulls next carnival?

[final locust]

yes

[fervent hinge]

ya but the pity doesn't carry to future banners so if u get nothing u get nothing

[mint cape]

I have 3 accounts and I farmed crystals on all 3 of them for Thelema heh...

[abstract night]

Poor nyx, Aponia, and hc + others were skipped for bp

[mint cape]

I have 132 pulls available😋

[final locust]

atp its too late to pull thele without severely bricking urself so u just gotta hope u get lucky or wait for her to be in BP if that ever happens

[mint cape]

What's bricking?

[final locust]

ruining ur acc

[mint cape]

Why would I ruin my account for Thelema what

[gleaming imp]

Isn't thelema still strong?

[final locust]

yes but its too late to pull

[gleaming imp]

But she's still strong right?

[final locust]

because shes 7 patches old and the time to pull her has passed

[fervent hinge]

if ur a casual player who just wants thelema you can just pull her from carnival as long as you have at least 80 pulls in crystals (or supply cards) but in current day she's a really bad investment so it depends on what you want

[final locust]

yes

[gleaming imp]

So if strong still then why bad pull?

[final locust]

because its not 7.4

[abstract night]

Itd be more backpulling
Which backpulling is generally bad cuz their abyss coverage has died down

[fervent hinge]

on what she's designed for sure but it looks like the meta is changing to a new ring type, thel will soon be left behind

[mint cape]

I honestly don't really care I just love chained blades🔥

[final locust]

if u dont care about abyss scores you have free reign over ur acc so just do wtv u want

[fervent hinge]

from a competitive standpoint thelema is a terrible investment, as long as you accept that and still want her anyway then go for it

as long as u can guarantee her its fine

[abstract night]

Unless ur a whel

[final locust]

nah even whales dont wanna pull her

[gleaming imp]

That's lamp

[mint cape]

I have 5000 crystals on my 1st alt. 2900 crystals on my second alt. And 2k crystals in my main. That's good enough right?

[final locust]

no

[fervent hinge]

I mean no not really

[mint cape]

☹️

[final locust]

think of that like saving 1 10 pull at 2 pity no guaranteed in ZZZ/GI/HSR/Wuwa

[mint cape]

I barely understand anything here. I guess what you guys are saying it basically depends on luck

[fervent hinge]

you need enough to guarantee her ideally, saving crystals across multiple accounts doesn't guarantee getting her

because if you don't get her the crystals are completely wasted, the pity is completely wiped when the banner leaves

[final locust]

yeah you cant transfer crystals to diff accs or anything

[mint cape]

I know but I have 5k crystals on my 1st alt isn't that good?

[final locust]

thats not even 20 pulls

[fervent hinge]

that's barely any crystals unfortunately

you'd need at least 20k to pull thelema from carnival supply

[mint cape]

Next time I guess😔

[fervent hinge]

you can try your luck if you want but if you don't get her then... we warned you xd

[abstract night]

Oh

U also need her wep

[final locust]

its gonna feel REALLY bad if you dont get her

[fervent hinge]

better to wait for a normal battlesuit supply because at least the the pity carries

[gleaming imp]

Tldr worst case scenario a Valk costs 23,800 crystals assuming half off multi first, a weapon for said Valk is 16,800 worst case scenario, in the case of thelema you'll need 19,600 crystals for her and another 16,800 for her weapon

[fervent hinge]

atp I've kinda assumed they don't care about weapons

idk xd

[mint cape]

yeah I dont

[final locust]

do know that thele is very bad without her wp

and so is every valk really

[mint cape]

Yeah but honestly I'm just here for the gameplay not damage

[fervent hinge]

seems like a gamba addiction situation

[gleaming imp]

They could always wait for thelema adv on 8.2 to make their thelema be strong and last longer in efficiency

[fervent hinge]

so let's just forget weapons and meta for this one

[final locust]

even thele gameplay is horrible without her wp

[fervent hinge]

it's irrelevant xD

[abstract night]

Actually
Sena doesnt loose much as a support without her wep

[mint cape]

Doesn't Thelema still have her weapon skill without her pri arm?

[final locust]

but shes severe bricked without it as dps

[final locust]

weapon skill is not the main appeal of weapons anymore

but yes she does

[mint cape]

Then I'm good

[abstract night]

I forgot weapon skills used to be actual weapons not built in.

[mint cape]

😋😋😋

[final locust]

sure! we'll go with that

[mint cape]

Life's great guys

I'm getting Thelema and everything trust me

100%

[final locust]

dont be sad when you dont get her

[ocean breach]

thelema still massive

[final locust]

you know what else is massive

[mint cape]

AAAAA THELEMA IN UR PROFILEEE

[final locust]

https://tenor.com/view/low-taper-fade-ninja-massive-the-meme-is-still-massive-yeah-no-massive-gif-9995754776955392143

[mint cape]

[ocean breach]

[mint cape]

That's all over tt

Imagine if ninja got a low taper fade🙏🏼

[ocean breach]

get out 💔

[fervent hinge]

thelema's gameplay is exactly the same without her sig wep but the big loss is the lack of timestop after her ult

[mint cape]

Well honestly I'm just gonna spam the weapon whatever

[final locust]

bro

that is NOT how you play thelema

[fervent hinge]

that's not really how it works

[mint cape]

YES IT KS

[hard meadow]

wouldnt it be funny if you just lost 9 points every time you ult because you dont have the weapon

[mint cape]

yes

It would be funny

[final locust]

well good thing youre laughing because its real and happens

[fervent hinge]

they have 5k crystals and don't pull weapons anyway 9 points per ult isn't gonna get them anywhere beneficial

[gleaming imp]

Imagine not having built in time stop on ult, us later p1/1.5 valk enjoyers can't relate

[final locust]

@mint cape out of curiosity whats ur abyss rank

[mint cape]

I have 43 weapon pity yet I barely pull weapons

[hard meadow]

then they should pull hov

[fervent hinge]

guessing agony 1

[mint cape]

Uhm I forgor

[final locust]

she does have built in timestop

just not the 3 second timestop after ult

[fervent hinge]

she does tho

[gleaming imp]

Oh

[mint cape]

Yeah she does

[gleaming imp]

I thought it was the weapon that granted it as a way to make weapon more needed for people to swipe

[fervent hinge]

no just the timestop after her ultimate animation ends

once that animation ends she's not in ult she's just in timestop

[mint cape]

I've skipped so many banners for Thelema if I don't get her I'm gonna scream in my pillow and cry for multiple hours🙏🏼 it's worth a try chat

[final locust]

youve skipped multiple banners and only have 5k crystals to show for it? 😭

[mint cape]

STOP.

[fervent hinge]

are u sure u skipped banners or did u skip logging in

like

??

[ember locust]

Bro, what did you do ☠️

[mint cape]

I skipped 1 banner

[fervent hinge]

bro pulled everything except 1 banner

[mint cape]

Also there's barely anything to grind for😔

[fervent hinge]

did u skip the FoV adv

chad

[final locust]

thats what abyss is there for u baka chan 😭

b-baka ;-;

[fervent hinge]

wdym I'm still grinding wt valks almost 2k days into the game

[mint cape]

I somehow logged into my old account like a week ago

[final locust]

erik elysian realm and abyss are your main sources of income and this is why abyss rank is important

[mint cape]

The accounts 600 days old

[final locust]

BRO 💀

[ocean breach]

DAMN

[mint cape]

I CAN BARELY DO INFERNO IN ELYSIAN REALM

[final locust]

oh my god

[fervent hinge]

dude

[final locust]

[fervent hinge]

inferno?

[mint cape]

Ya

[fervent hinge]

naww u can do better than that

[abstract night]

Coralie

[fervent hinge]

coralie with wang zhaojun can do abstinence surely

[final locust]

bro what the hell

[mint cape]

how old is V6.5

[abstract night]

2 years ago

[smoky lintel]

Old 2 years

[fervent hinge]

I remember it like it was yesterday

[abstract night]

In april?

[mint cape]

There's no login thing I can check how many days I've logged in

[abstract night]

May was dw

[fervent hinge]

anyone else remember when bp got added to the game? smh

[abstract night]

Early February was 6.3
Mid february was 6.4

[final locust]

no just you bae

[fervent hinge]

[mint cape]

I played in 2021/2020 but I lost my account and made a new one in 2022 lost it again(but I found it) and I created a new one. Which now I'm level 83 on my main

[mint cape]

Your dinosaur level

Old timer

[abstract night]

I remember when HoHs pyramind got its first banner

Im such an old player

[ocean breach]

i remember when hohe first released man

everyone was so hyped

[mint cape]

I also played during that

[fervent hinge]

[abstract night]

...i got HoH from starter..

[mint cape]

My old account is a returnee heh. Free crystals😋

[abstract night]

No regrets

[fervent hinge]

I remember when pyramid itself got its first banner damn

[abstract night]

Now

[abstract night]

No u dont
Pyramind was 2.8

[mint cape]

2.8???

[abstract night]

Smh

[mint cape]

IT WAS THST LONG AGO??

[fervent hinge]

wait then how many reruns did frigid get

[abstract night]

Frigid release was 2.8

[fervent hinge]

am I dumb

oh right I was only there for the rerun I'm lying lowkey

[abstract night]

SHAME ON YOU

[fervent hinge]

remember when HoV got added to the game tho

[mint cape]

Lyo is a old timer

[fervent hinge]

me neither

[abstract night]

You were their for void drifter release

[mint cape]

Hov was my first main😭

[abstract night]

Ur favorite character

[fervent hinge]

who gives a shit about void drifter I got carried by HoR

[abstract night]

Didnt u pull

Someone from dorm

Px?

[fervent hinge]

fucking dimension breaker thx

[abstract night]

HAH

HAHAHA

[fervent hinge]

I play her in nirvana

[mint cape]

My bulid on hov is trash

[fervent hinge]

everyone's HoV trash compared to mine dw

[mint cape]

😟

Did U have hov SSS RANK complete stigmata max level and pri arm

Or somehow better

[abstract night]

Hot take central

[mint cape]

Time flies so slow💔 version 8.1 is finally coming tomorrow

Im so excited

We're also gonna get a free s rank selector no?

But all of them are non meta

[final locust]

yes but not immediately

[final locust]

do you have 23 atk/5.6 crit dmg on all

[smoky lintel]

Also all of them are farmable except sw iirc

[abstract night]

1.0<->5.4

[gleaming imp]

Mobius still has a top score on starless andrius but unknown whether or not it'll rerun

[mint cape]

Is it gonna be like a 7 day login thing?

[final locust]

ye

[mint cape]

How much days do we have to wait I can't wait for mobius

Might choose nyx instead tho

Idk

[smoky lintel]

Both are in WT so you can get them both eventually

[abstract night]

Selfpromo-My nyx is SS3 4/4 23x4

[mint cape]

It's gonna take so slow tho I'm impatient yk💔

[mint cape]

😟

[abstract night]

I enjoy nyxs kit sm

[mint cape]

Idk who's better nyx or mobius

[abstract night]

.....i hope the pt2 ice pt1 support has high hitcount...

[mint cape]

Nyxs gameplay has much more mechanics than mobius

[abstract night]

...if it ever comes out

[mint cape]

28 more hours🙏🏼

[gleaming imp]

Mobius

[smoky lintel]

have fun getting her weapon

[mint cape]

OKAY FINE MOBIUS

[abstract night]

Mobius needs ranks

To be good

And 4/4
And proper supports

[final locust]

so does everybody in that selector

[abstract night]

Which i have!
But...id rather timeskip for SSS nyx

[abstract night]

Okay well some arent good even with 4/4 and proper supports

[mint cape]

Like lightening empress

[final locust]

none of them are

[abstract night]

Shes lead skill bot

[abstract night]

But my nyx cleared a side stage :(

[final locust]

wow! what an achievement

[mint cape]

I know right

Hardest achievement ever in honkai history

I'm choosing mobius then I guess💀 none of them are meta so it doesn't even matter who I choose

[final locust]

you should choose silverwing if shes in there

all the other ones are farmable in WT, silverwing is not

[mint cape]

Y'all remember when mobius said that elysia gained weight💀

[mint cape]

I already have her

[gleaming imp]

Can you really be besties if one doesn't say what's on their mind

[mint cape]

And elysia caught mobius wearing a pink dress(I think that's what happened I don't remember alot)

[gleaming imp]

Exactly just girls being girls

[mint cape]

[mint cape]

Isn't she suppose to be a morally gray character(idek what morally gray means)

[gleaming imp]

Vita on top 🛐

Another +100 and I reach nirv I think

Bricked account where?

[abstract night]

Luck

[gleaming imp]

Time to grind hott

[abstract night]

Ive already maxed it out

[hard meadow]

vita winning on vita boss?

damn

[willow perch]

Ahh, so my 847 score @ 500D isn't too terrible

[fervent hinge]

Cdmg is not optimal on HoV, full 23x6 atk is

And I have all possible global atk

So she's sitting at 1630 atk

1650 next patch

[willow perch]

nuh uh

[fervent hinge]

If only DoV's atk wasn't dogshit man :(

Fym nuh uh

[final locust]

how?

[final locust]

393 atk

[nova osprey]

3 23x2 affix box

[final locust]

no how is 6x23atk better than 4x23atk 2x5.6cd

[nova osprey]

Probs too much cdmg and not enough atk so atk has more value

[surreal shuttle]

do we have any news on 8.2 valk

[languid grotto]

I predict bio ice next patch. Kill sw once n for all. And end part 1 ice teams

[willow pumice]

ye sushang likely bio valk

[nova osprey]

8.1 is 9 weeks, so wait 2-3 weeks more

[surreal shuttle]

ahh welp

[plucky cradle]

morivalk when

[glass nacelle]

denvalk when

[slate elm]

you make it sound like SW is even still alive

[languid grotto]

She has her once a blue moon kaplas return

[slate elm]

that's ranged

so lantern and jds can contest it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqgh7WMEIRs is this the most recent kalpas? idr lol

[glass nacelle]

thel tech

[copper shale]

thel 3rd fr

bring back fuhua 3rd

[rustic stump]

Why do you hate her? lol

[languid grotto]

I don’t lol 😭

[rustic stump]

The way people in this discord server about older valks me think ya hate them after like a year lol

[languid grotto]

I see

I enjoy sw. Don’t really hate any valks

Problem should’ve worded my message better?

[rustic stump]

It’s whatever. It’s just a trend I’ve noticed. 🤷🏾‍♀️

Maybe it’s an inside joke I don’t get yet.

[gleaming imp]

I’m the opposite since I’m a boomer

[rustic stump]

Well I’m glad lol

[glass nacelle]

ppl sleep

[slate elm]

i think this is a misconception. Unfamiliar people tend to be taken aback by how meta emphasized the game can be, but there's still a good amount of love for the older and obsoleted valks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ho6frDW7RA

[rustic stump]

It’s the way people talk about older valks when it comes to meta that weirds me out

[slate elm]

you don't have to be meta if you don't want to be but overall meta is emphasized since it's pvp and crystal income is tied to it

i encourage you to not read too deeply into meta talk or misinterpret it as personal preference

[rustic stump]

The “please die” or “I hope their relevance ends” are the comments that weirds me out

[slate elm]

oh well i can't help that lol. I do agree then those are a bit much

but people say that about current meta valks sometimes too

[rustic stump]

They are very common though

[rustic stump]

Like Lantern

[slate elm]

there are some valks that overstay their welcome too (eden)

lantern is a silly case. She was a big skip but has been somewhat more emphasized recently

so there's the group of people who are bitter about not having her

and then there's the common misconception that lantern is brain dead to play when she has a lot of minor optimizations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m-gnDqnN7c

lastly i guess prob the most guilty issue for her is how some of her bosses attacks alot causing her to evade out of your control and overall not being very consistent runs and involving alot of resets if you really want to optimize

but yeah i agree the hate for it is kinda exaggerated

i think in many situations people are still largely fine without her, and as long as you settle for decent rather than very capped scores it's hardly a big deal

i'm a bit of biased lantern defender at this point though lol

but anyway i was gonna bring up much older valks

[glass nacelle]

kek

[rustic stump]

Good to know, but I don’t see an issue with a valk overstaying its welcome and Lantern hate sounds dumb

[slate elm]

like lyo and hov
breath and danzai
drya and all his adv banner rolls
me and TP. This channel is pretty inactive now but it's full of old creative teri focused runs https://space.bilibili.com/23153134

mimi mitsu showcases off meta valks all the time too. Especially LV bruteforce at a whale level. I personally highly recommend their content

[glass nacelle]

[slate elm]

there's a few people who highly favor mobius as well

[rustic stump]

I love watching their videos. They are very funny

[slate elm]

hm i could've sworn the guy was named mobius obsession or something but i can't remember

well anyway there's kyoshiro as well

although i don't recall too much off weather stuff from them

anyway some people can be very vocal but overall don't lose sight of how the game actually is from them

and also if you ever want to build off meta and understand the trade offs, there's never anything wrong with that. As long as you're specific with your goals, the help channels can assist you for more focused builds as well.

[glass nacelle]

i wish she's braindead

[slate elm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3H8EOI_1Ug there's this classic meme too but i'm digressing

[glass nacelle]

[slate elm]

[glass nacelle]

[slate elm]

i almost feel when people hear about a valk that they are recommended to skip, they are expecting to never be punished for it? but the idea is hi3 will emphasize everything in some way. It's just that the skip valks are more anticipated to punish you less lol

lately there's been alot of anti p1 sentiments because they tend to run p1 weathers like bleed or starless at the end of the patch

and the people who started in p2 feel helpless against it

[gleaming imp]

I love starless since as a p1 boomer it’s make me feel rewarded for playing the game for a long time

[slate elm]

but it's only been a year since the start of p2. Generally i would say things loosely circulate in the top meta in some niche or form for roughly 2 years (can be less or more)

and really it's not an issue of p1 vs p2 either. It's just a label that makes it easier to observe

[gleaming imp]

And it makes my investment into the p1/1.5 valks I got feel good like mobius

[slate elm]

but any content you skipped or missed will haunt you lol. It could've just been more p1 content (i skipped fov and suffer every rimestar)

[glass nacelle]

+2

[slate elm]

anyway people are just silly and are vocal about anything convenient for them

[glass nacelle]

delete p1 tks

[plucky cradle]

domyabyss

[glass nacelle]

use your PE

[plucky cradle]

no PE

[spare vine]

Pou

[glass nacelle]

use your songque

[slate elm]

it would be outrageous if a popular premium p1 valk gets less value and time than SpA lol

[muted mauve]

boomer
P1 ended just a little over a year ago

[slate elm]

lets start calling sena retro

[edgy drift]

Tbh, Starless Rimestar goes pretty great with HoO dps

[glass nacelle]

starless in 2025

[slate elm]

i've seen enough people without HoFi dkey or HoTr by now. It's prob just an exaggerated minority but it's good enough for me lol

but in all seriousness, it's nice how capable she is for sure

[unique swallow]

All my homies hate fov

[gleaming imp]

@abstract night after doing a lot a lot of thinking and consideration I’ll be skipping eepy Teri in favor getting teriteri aop since she’ll benefit my vita in the long run and also help her perform better once my vita reaches SS2 then SSS

Eepy Teri pros vs teriteri aop pros were more in favor of teriteri aop and they both appeal to my nostalgia equally as a p1 boomer

[vapid maple]

Not a day passes by where in I don't see a pt 1 vs pt 2 talk

We'll we ever get a bleed or ignite dedicated valk on pt 2 ?

Does sparkle count as ignite?

[gleaming imp]

I have a question how many of those elf/aop materials do you need for a s teriteri aop to max out?

For just base s rank

[unique swallow]

a lot

[edgy drift]

Just so you know, S Teriop isn't even good for Vita

[unique swallow]

[edgy drift]

Needs SS to start doing something

[gleaming imp]

but isn’t she made for vita and loa?

[edgy drift]

Base S is nice for LoA, Vita wants SS

[gleaming imp]

Why else would it specify RoO lighting

[edgy drift]

Otherwise just use Kiaelf

[somber egret]

No Sparkle Snapshot Ignite DoT when she is Team Leader

[gleaming imp]

I guess I’ll have to hope for really good luck

[edgy drift]

If you look here for sure, Drya never says anything else

[gleaming imp]

I can’t deny that allegation

[glass nacelle]

[unique swallow]

Aiguides where

[glass nacelle]

can't kill P1 with elysia support 💀

[supple furnace]

[glass nacelle]

or my atk is bad

[edgy drift]

could even be both

[copper shale]

cuz it can

kek

[gleaming imp]

Possibility of there being a niche case with HoO in trio?

[plucky cradle]

because vitabait

[copper shale]

none

the thing about the teri aop is that its only 5% better than songque anyways for vita

nothing game changing

[gleaming imp]

But teriteri aop has the most important thing, the nostalgia factor

[copper shale]

ngl u say almost everything has some kind of nostalgia that it makes it pretty worthless

hearing u speak of nostalgia

lol

[gleaming imp]

Don’t you remember playing as Otto and him mentioning the dress he had made for Teri as a overseer and now you get to see it

[copper shale]

[slate elm]

soon p2 valks will have nostalgia of their own too

also don't forget meta situations of SK abyss tuned for horb, but MPE ended up taking it anyway

[gleaming imp]

Need a p3 cast first then they enter the nostalgia domain

[slate elm]

and how herrscher ely was viable against symphony kevin once iirc

[gleaming imp]

Really? How’d that happen?