🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[final locust]

double kiana i think is best for mobs/blood

shes also pretty fast i believe

[abstract night]

What about teri?

[final locust]

teri is meh

no team wants her

except sparkle

(sometimes)

[abstract night]

Why not

[final locust]

bc buffs are worse than hofi, vita, and kiana

and shes slow

[somber egret]

Finality Vita as well with Teri

[abstract night]

Could u rephrase?

[final locust]

teri uses sparkle quite often and im surprised this isnt common knowledge

[somber egret]

Cause Finality Buff is big

And Sparkle Reso Trigger is slow

And All Qua Boss of Teri does not require more than one Qua Collapse

[final locust]

full collapse is a bigger buff than anything

[somber egret]

Teri alone has 4 instance of Qua Collapse

[abstract night]

I hope hofi dies soon.

[final locust]

if boss has more than one collapse shield u want her

[final locust]

no she doesnt

she has ult + one evade + one ult in SO

[abstract night]

Wep

[final locust]

when on sparkle you can literally just ult on teri when shes sleeping and it gives like 3 collapse things and takes 0 points

[somber egret]

1 on Auto Block
2 if evaded

[somber egret]

And what Teri Boss you need 3 Collapse

[final locust]

i didnt say you need 3

but you usually need at least 2

and sparkle gives for free without taking points

[somber egret]

Then what teri boss needs 2 collapse

[final locust]

not to mention sparkle has instakill

so sparkle just gonna be good for MA and some abyss
she also has timestop
just good for teri and any qua ws dps

[abstract night]

Theres only only 2 qua ws dps and one of them is herself

[final locust]

not like there cant be more

[abstract night]

Wheres bio

[final locust]

whats bio

thats not real silly

[glass nacelle]

biover

[abstract night]

It is

[final locust]

shes dead

[abstract night]

I actually got 3rd place in rl fyi

On the last paralyze sushang

With s0 everything (sss gd)

[final locust]

yeah in RL

on para sus

[abstract night]

Ur not gonna use her in nirv

[final locust]

exactly

because shes dead

literally and figuratively

[abstract night]

Not in my heart

I love her kit

[final locust]

dont know how or why but to each their own

[feral epoch]

do you think i didn't use this team every time i use teri?

[final locust]

cool man

[abstract night]

I wish i owned sparkle...

[feral epoch]

and it loses to hofi vita on her own weather

[final locust]

depends on the weather

[feral epoch]

whatever

[final locust]

ok

glad we can agree

[abstract night]

Weekly quiz

[final locust]

fym weekly quiz

[abstract night]

Uh

Weekly quiz?

[final locust]

what about it

[abstract night]

Thats how

[final locust]

you like her because of weekly quiz???

im so confused

[abstract night]

The part after it

[final locust]

the battle??

[abstract night]

Yeah

[final locust]

thats seriously why you like aponia

[abstract night]

Im not a weirdo

[final locust]

thats pretty weird

most people lite the weekly quiz

[abstract night]

Pre lite

I dont do it anymore

[alpine mulch]

Is the spending event useless for me? I dont have Lunar Vow and Im not sure how useful Horb is considering my account has only pt2 characters geared.

[still condor]

i dont lite the quiz
it takes like 5s and i like hoarding skip tickets

[abstract night]

Wait lv stamps?

[alpine mulch]

No her outfit

[abstract night]

Oh

[edgy drift]

Rewards in it are meh for everyone pretty much

Just grab HRB if you reach that point and cope that she'll be useful someday if Hoyo gives her a p2 weap

[alpine mulch]

Thats surprising. I thought it would be a little better somehow considering it's CNY

[alpine mulch]

I was planning on full sending it since Ive been saving for so long lol

[edgy drift]

You can, the spend event is just a little bonus

[final locust]

should still get horb bc she'll get dkey probably soon

[edgy drift]

what matters is what you pull for

[alpine mulch]

Btw does the double xtal top up reset just before the update drops?

[final locust]

istg if they give hrb a dkey and she ends up needing ranks like hhe im gonna be madddd

[edgy drift]

*should still get HRB because everything else is completely useless and she has a chance of maybe seeing use someday eventually if lucky

[still condor]

HoRb will prob want s2 still

[alpine mulch]

Yeah hope so, I can def see that happening

[final locust]

if lucky
shes a herrscher and one of the only ones left shes probably next in line for stellar key

[edgy drift]

they all need ranks because they're old

It's not like they need ranks to work, it's just that everyone has them so you play from behind if you don't

[final locust]

hhe needs ranks bc hers were f2p accessible

[edgy drift]

Yeah yeah people said the same thing about HFS for about 3 years

[final locust]

hrbs werent but most ppl got s2

[edgy drift]

well now they are

HoH had most people pull S2+ on release as well

way more than HRB in fact

[junior nova]

Hohe made history

[final locust]

difference is there wasnt stellar key

and nobody cared that much about HoFs and her kit was too old and tired to be salvageable

so they just gave us hofi instead

[edgy drift]

it's the exact same shit

new weapon to make the valk relevant in new meta

nothing changed

you can add a little ribbon on it, still the same old thing

[abstract night]

BKE..?

[final locust]

that one was story relevant

[abstract night]

Brick.

Story relevance where

[still condor]

senti is allowed to do whatever the fuck she wants tbh

[abstract night]

[final locust]

because people like hos

i dont honestly know whats going through your head when you say stuff sometimes

[abstract night]

People like HoFs

HoV

[final locust]

kit was too ass to save

[alpine mulch]

Where do I find Elysia's new team?

[edgy drift]

another day of "people trying to find pattern when hoyo doesn't give a fuck and just throws dart at a board to decide what they release"

[vale granite]

Yes, that's why we got a dkey + Badum

[abstract night]

[edgy drift]

"nobody cared about HFS" has to be the most cope take ever

[final locust]

honestly idk why HoV didnt get one probably because she was too old when dkeys started becoming a thing
like, way too old

[vale granite]

Assuming S0 Sena Thele is best

[final locust]

by the time she needed a dkey they didnt

[abstract night]

[glass nacelle]

inb4 sena got stellar key, trigger another ar

[edgy drift]

they didn't care less about her than HoR or HoT

[final locust]

HoT was story relevant and wasnt HoR too?

[alpine mulch]

Ok thanks, I have her team then (assuming her dkey is worth pulling)

[vale granite]

I mean, VKE got a dkey

[edgy drift]

There's no reason to it other than Hoyo didn't feel like it

[vale granite]

I don't think that's the issue

[final locust]

horb is likely next in line for the stellar key

[abstract night]

They went
HoFi -> HoH
No pattern

[final locust]

its obvious
theyre not gonna stop after two and trio already got a huge buff so only one that makes sense to give to is horb

[edgy drift]

HRB might get one or she might not, just depends on how hoyo feels and assuming either way is just baseless speculations

[vale granite]

Surely P1 Phys becomes usable with that

[final locust]

HoS was NOT a stellar key lil bro

[abstract night]

Okay, sorry

[edgy drift]

they can absolutely stop after 2

[final locust]

they wont

its making them $$$
why would they

[vale granite]

Seele is not that popular of a char, so

[abstract night]

Its hoyos choice

[final locust]

what do you meannnn

[edgy drift]

HFS dkey would also have made $$$, yet they didn't

[vale granite]

Surprised myself, but we have the data (dated data tbf)

[final locust]

seele may not be but horb is very

[edgy drift]

Or they could also decide Luna gets one if they "don't want to stop at 2"

[abstract night]

One person isnt the entire public opinion

[final locust]

this is factual

[edgy drift]

nobody can know, I'm just telling you to not use that as a definitive argument as if it's guaranteed to happen

[final locust]

everyone who broke meta will get one im telling u

everyone who made them hella money

[abstract night]

HoV.

[edgy drift]

HFS be like :

[final locust]

recently

relatively recently

[abstract night]

Recently is...when?

[final locust]

idk like 6.0+

[vale granite]

It's a dynamic range that styxx will adjust to fit the argument

[abstract night]

OH UR STYXX?

[edgy drift]

Btw if you want to follow a pattern with HFI -> HoH, the next one is HFS

[final locust]

no im not styxx heh whos that

[vale granite]

Did you just notice 😭

[abstract night]

Its Cat memes

[abstract night]

Yeah

[final locust]

i mean if they give HFS one i dont care its cool

its just not gonna happen

[vale granite]

Do you genuinely wanna play vs SSS HoFs

[final locust]

well shes farmable

[edgy drift]

same odds as HRB not happening until hoyo whims it into existence

[final locust]

i can get there someday

[edgy drift]

just saying that once again, there's no pattern or reason to them. They just do shit and can stop or change whenever

[final locust]

saying theyre gonna stop producing stellar keys is just as cope as saying horb is getting one next

[abstract night]

Hi aug cores

[edgy drift]

Like we saw Sena with locked skill, thing was cracked, we went "omg locked skill on new valk she's must pull", they threw one on every single valk since then

[small wing]

so what's the current best team for sena now

[final locust]

no they didnt
thele and lantern didnt have locked skill

neither did teri

[edgy drift]

I'm not saying they're stopping either, I'm saying you gotta stop saying it as if it's guaranteed, especially when giving advice

[small wing]

Vita/Hofi or Vita/BDFW

[final locust]

idk i think its still vita hfi

badum good for WS but idk

[abstract night]

Blood Dance for What?

[final locust]

not sure if FW is good enough over vita

[final locust]

badum

[abstract night]

I know teehee

[final locust]

what else u gonna buy tho

[edgy drift]

HRB still, but not "because she's going to get a dkey" but "because everything is shit and she at least has a chance of maybe getting something"

[final locust]

isnt that the same reason

[edgy drift]

The first one will encourage pushing to spend more even if they got everything already

The second doesn't

[final locust]

will it?

[vale granite]

Not at all, the first one is hella optimistic, the second one is more realistic

[final locust]

im optimistic!

[edgy drift]

just do not push speculations as facts, it's basic good practice

[vale granite]

Maybe the end goal is the same, but the way you convey it is completely different

• you don't risk spreading misinfo and keep the expectations tempered

[final locust]

well i wouldnt do it in gameplay help

or beginner help if i ever beg to get unbanned there

maybe i should do that

[edgy drift]

stop pushing speculations is how that'd have a chance of happening

[abstract night]

Im not even gonna ask how that happend.

[vale granite]

You're banned there? LMFAO

[atomic peak]

💀

[vale granite]

Checks out tbh

[final locust]

why do you think i havent chatted there in almost a year

[abstract night]

I mean.. u dont have to chat in a channel

I dont chat in general usually

[final locust]

but it was my main channel

[abstract night]

Literally only have 29 msgs

From 10+ months ago

[noble cobalt]

Is fiery wishing star better than coralie in vita team?

[hard meadow]

no

[shrewd socket]

she's not even RoO

the question should be the opposite smh

[slate elm]

@final locust while some channels do have a higher standard to abide by, you might want to mind your own general reputation as well, especially in a public place

you see me in less formal places but you still see me having a certain amount of professionalism/standards/friendliness.

If you ever refer/ask for/recommend someone to something, how confident would you expect of them if they have a recent/strong history of something questionable?

At any rate nothing is confirmed until the official word arrives. Trends can develop but they can also be broken, and hoyo is capable of overhauling systems or make similar revolutions (rip bp lol)

[final locust]

dont say rip bp

say welcome back bp because we are so back

[slate elm]

nobody will mind if you want to be optimistic at your own expense. I have my own fair share of copes as well. But the moment another person's account is in your hands it becomes not ok

sure however you want to perceive it

the point is it's a large scale change and that sort of thing has happened throughout hi3's history as well

[muted mauve]

I agree with rip BP

[final locust]

howww

bro it looks so good

looks f2p accessible too with that perma shop

[still condor]

you have to pay for the non permanent shop apparently

[final locust]

im excited

[still condor]

thats assuming they put good shit in it and not just holmes or whatever

[slate elm]

it's potent but i still need to hear the full details for now

anyway sorry for adding to the fire here. It's not the first time I'm observing this and I just thought maybe it might mean more coming from myself and making myself an example for some of those points.

To give some credit I do think you've went a long way from when we first met.

[still condor]

bp was neat but now i cant full gear my luna

[shrewd socket]

the only thing you can be certain is permanent crystallum tbf

[slate elm]

it'll be cute to save a bunch of them after a while

and then find some opportunity to pick up some super niche team they randomly want to revive

cough mobius

[final locust]

wont she go in perma shop

too late to gear luna anyway just wait for dkey

[shrewd socket]

that is, depending on what they put there ofc

[slate elm]

who knows for now

[final locust]

i plan to get mobi as well

her weap and then ill craft linnaeus and farm her from MA

[still condor]

we dont know
but shes in the 8.3 shop based on the ai chan img

[final locust]

only sucky part is i have to use luna hotr cuz no simp or eden

[slate elm]

you're missing the point if you're going to talk about mobius prospectively

[final locust]

but wait i can finally gear my eden actually bc EoP will be in the perma shop!!!!!!!

[slate elm]

i was referring to how they dug mobi out of a ditch for andrius on vita's patch lol

[final locust]

i know

[shrewd socket]

should could be techinacally "free" 4/4 if she ever comes back to BP

[muted mauve]

You can't say it's too late to gear Luna and then say BP changes are good because permanent shop.

Permanent shop will logically have older stuff

[slate elm]

mobius is pretty cool as a valk so it's nice to see her more accessible even if she's fallen off heavily now

[final locust]

i hope hohe stamps are in that perma shop so i can ss1.

[still condor]

dont even know if she will get one

[final locust]

shes guaranteed to have some longevity at least with starless andrius

[final locust]

it was a /hj

[slate elm]

wait hang on don't repeat this again lol

[shrewd socket]

not bad at all, just dont see the need outside starless andrius and when did it even come again

[slate elm]

there's no guarantee starless andrius will run again

[final locust]

itll pop up sometimes im sure

[shrewd socket]

not often enough to justify

[final locust]

probably not often but who knows bc they spammed ranged heph like 30 times in 3 patches

[slate elm]

well ok i'm just on red alert after the recent discussion then. It's fine for now but don't guarantee it on other people's expense in a help setting lol

if you want to place faith in that and work towards her go nuts girl

[final locust]

no i wouldnt tell anyone to gear mobi from perma shop im just saying im gonna be doing it bc i like her

and also shes good in ER
i do like mobius and wish i had the summer drip

[slate elm]

but historically if you want an example i think they only ran phys saha assaka twice

[final locust]

i will be farming her in WT

[slate elm]

no not that. Just the expectation of starless andrius to return

it's related but ultimately a separate idea

[final locust]

i kinda do expect it to return but idk

[slate elm]

you can on your own terms

[final locust]

there was that one bleed mobs that never ran isnt there

[muted mauve]

still over 6 weeks of nothing to do on CN server

[shrewd socket]

related as in "Mobius still has use"?

[muted mauve]

I'm feeling the content drought

[final locust]

she does technically
if they ever decide to run starless andrius

maybe she'll be dead by the time they run it again

sad

[shrewd socket]

thing is
its too little of an use to even consider

[slate elm]

my actual sss mobi cope is to run her against dominance jizo :V

[final locust]

wish they gave us mobi in the beta

first beta that doesnt have mobi for me

[slate elm]

actually hold on i also made a prior comment of sss-ing mobi for starless andrius. I can prove i'm coping just as much too ugh i can't find it. whatever

[muted mauve]

Patch event is long gone.

Main story chapter was just a hour and a half.

Now we have Luna event rerun (which you know it's a rerun so I'm just speeding through it) and even then I'm done with it in a few hours from now.

Then nothing.
9 weeks celebration patch and there's nothing to do.

Can't even imagine how 8.2 and 8.3 will be...

[final locust]

these 9 week patches

[muted mauve]

[shrewd socket]

those 9 weeks come handy to me

more time to recover

[final locust]

gonna kill the game

[shrewd socket]

you can find ppl saying that they can save bc they dont have time to save, there you have it

[muted mauve]

what's the point of saving when there's no game to play

[shrewd socket]

the game is right there

[muted mauve]

everything is done

[shrewd socket]

didnt know abyss/ER/MA dont reset anymore

[muted mauve]

done done and done

[rustic stump]

2 to 3 times a week

[final locust]

if you wanna say abyss MA and ER are patch content ur just delulu

[muted mauve]

the next event of this patch is ER lite

[final locust]

delulu is not the solulu

to all ur problulu

[slate elm]

no. let me delulu with my sss mobi revenge against dom jizo

because dom jizo was what killed any hope i had left with tp

[final locust]

just to lose to hare

[slate elm]

putting three mobs at the start is evil

[rustic stump]

Imma probably play next patch until I get copies of Waxing Moon and the free HoRb and then take a break. I wonder who’s next in 8.2

[slate elm]

idk if you realized but the person you're replying to was prob being sarcastic btw. I'm sure they already know lol

copies? wow

[shrewd socket]

no? that's literally what i play for

[final locust]

everyone plays for abyss MA and ER but they arent actual content

[slate elm]

no i meant gal didn't need to inform you how often those activities reset throughout the week

[slate elm]

depending on who you ask i think that is definition of actual content lol

[shrewd socket]

if they werent actual content ppl wouldnt play them

[slate elm]

styxx prob more means unique content to each patch. The patch highlights. So the new releases and events and such

[final locust]

they arent really patch content

theyre just permanent content that rotates

patch content is story events and gacha

[slate elm]

still is content. Esp when they add new bosses/weathers and create new scenarios

[final locust]

and new bosses

[slate elm]

i can run TP with HoS against phys jizo in one month, HoR in another month, maybe TP with HoRb and different stigs in another different month

[final locust]

pack it up bro wtf is this

[slate elm]

how about ignite hov

oh it's all true btw

[final locust]

thele sena hofi

[slate elm]

yeah and what about sirin dps? What about HoR with jingwei kira?

[final locust]

thele sena hofi doing good on ignite hov will never not be funny to me

[slate elm]

all are very different experiences against the same boss at different points in time of different viabilities

yeah it's great

[shrewd socket]

doesnt Thel slaps HoR in ice HoV already?

[slate elm]

anyway it's a matter of scope and how deep of an interest you want to take it

i was talking about ignite hov

but yeah thele replaces hor at this point

[abstract night]

I would hope so

3.3 valk vs 7.4 valk

[slate elm]

again i'm talking about different points in time

for each of those teams

[final locust]

yeah i would hope so 😭

HoR doesnt do that bad

i think

[slate elm]

you can talk about how abyss is the same in that it rotates constantly but if you look at it more in detail i wouldn't quite say it's truly the same

but it's up to you how far you want to discern it

now if we really want to talk ridiculously

we can bring up the same team and enemy/weather

but the difference in dist changes the fight drastically

oh crap i can't one rot p1 anymore. oh crap i can't stop this shield from returning. oh crap i need to 2 ring instead of 1 ring now

[final locust]

mobi can dominate me

😳

[slate elm]

i will never forget how my scuffed PE suffers more in RL than in nirvana

because in RL me lacking gears on her will cause her to unable to one shot a core

while everyone else can

while in nirv everyone was stuck on two ult to kill the core

[final locust]

mobius is mine back off kyoshiro and mobiusobsession 🤺

[muted mauve]

Scrolling through miyoushe on last new year we were basically getting even if it was small updates everyday.
The new content was also spread throughout the patch.

Now what? Patch is even longer and everything new that has been announced is over by week 2.

[final locust]

remember when i pulled mobius and said my sister pulled on my PC

[slate elm]

yeah if you want to look at it that way i don't blame you

but i can equally understand people who want to make the opposing argument in that abyss is the content, etc

[shrewd socket]

i mean

i pull for abyss

not for chip space

[final locust]

what a time

this definitely happened btw

[slate elm]

i wonder how many peopled invested in their DJ more just to do well on the chip space daily stage

[final locust]

i did a 10x in the car and accidentally got mobi

[slate elm]

prob not much but even a few would be funny

[final locust]

i think people were believing that shit too

[abstract night]

I forgot that thing existed. .. (chip space)

[final locust]

that creature

[hard meadow]

trueing but it was also the p2 launch not just regular cny

like even blind man can see how much money they pumped into that (for it to be a disaster..)

[muted mauve]

I know. But even the following patches MiHoyo was much more active on posting things on social media.

8.1... is empty in content.

[hard meadow]

feels like their p2 budget lasted for the first 3 patch

after that massive drop in amount of story, content, etc.

well, most of that content was already probably developed before p2 launch so.. maybe the budget was very quickly cut

[muted mauve]

8.1 main story is shorter and doesn't even have the typical side-minigames that take a few extra minutes every few days.

And when I mean shorter... it's almost as short as part 2 prologue (without it's side-stories) and that wasn't even a proper chapter

[hard meadow]

it is an ex-chapter.. but then again releasing ex-chapter on cny extended patch

i would expect arc finale or something

[muted mauve]

3-EX was about a hour longer + it had minigames + thelema side story

[hard meadow]

yeah but again everything 1-3 was way bigger budget than what we had after

idk we will see 8.2 soon

if its another nothinburger then i guess it is what it is

if it has good amount of content then idk ig they had to push it one patch late from cny for some reason

im not really too hopeful for the latter tho

[muted mauve]

I want devs to be transparent and explain why are we getting 3 9 week patches in a row

[hard meadow]

maybe they will if enough cn fans make a racket

when they see a second 9 week patch rolling in

or a third...

glblul can just take what we get

[muted mauve]

8.2 should be 9 weeks based on crystallum expiration time.
8.3 should be 9 weeks because in the BP rework post the timer to redeem the BP pass for 8.3 was 9 weeks.

[hard meadow]

yep

[mortal skiff]

It feels like they're trying to make 9 weeks the norm

[hard meadow]

which would be a bit worrying since that would be a massive drop in revenue to them

more than what they would save in dev costs

or maybe their bean counters figure that hey if someone spends $200 in a 6 week patch they will spend $300 in 9 week patch.. which.. well i dont agree

[mortal skiff]

I just want more lore

[muted mauve]

9 weeks without change in content release (like we are seeing in 8.1) will greatly worsen the game.

Well I say without change but 8.1 has less content.

[hard meadow]

i dont think anyone disagrees with that

well they tried hard with p2 and all the changes and it kinda flopped, that much is a fact

and at least my headcanon is that they kinda.. stopped trying because of that. or weren't given money to try anymore

[mortal skiff]

I've seen way too many people happy about it because "there'll be more time to save" though

[muted mauve]

3 9 week patches already means less 1.5 patches this year.

[hard meadow]

and thats another thing for if the patch length was 9 weeks and nothing else was changed then f2p truly can save enough to pull s0+1 every patch

so they guaranteed wont get any money from them anymore

[edgy drift]

definitely, the vast majority of the spending people do is for new releases

so releases being spread further means they have more and spend less on top of already spending less often

[hard meadow]

yeah exactly

my spending is pretty consistent amount on every new patch so.. 9 week patches would just mean i spend 33% less

but well worrying or doomposting about it isnt really gonna change anything. just have to see what happens

[feral epoch]

[muted mauve]

I think the earlier people demand transparency the better

[hard meadow]

sure but you know hoyos track record in listening to anything glblul demands

have to leave it to the hands of cn server

[shrewd socket]

still cant see the issue
the game wont die just bc of 3 more week every patch

[hard meadow]

well its not like its a binary state of being dead or alive

like anyone can see its more dead than a couple years ago

even if still doing well

and 9 week patches will certainly bring it down again

its simply not good for the health of the game

[shrewd socket]

its good for the health of the players

[hard meadow]

you can alr see in MA player counts

there is about 30-40% less players in the last weeks compared to first week of patch

you need to keep releasing patches to bring them players back every time

and the longer it has been the less of them will come back

[muted mauve]

it's not

[rustic stump]

It sounds like Hoyo is trying push players over to HSR and ZZZ, since what makes HI3rd is split between both games.

I had a feeling this was gonna happen when heard about ZZZ and that rumored Honkai Pokémon game.

[hard meadow]

its also the players perception of the game health is more important than the actual health

cause ppl dont wanna spend on "dead game" "eos soon" etc.

that anyone can understand

this is why it would be important for hoyo to be more transparent about the 9 week patch to regain player confidence

unless the plan is actually to go permanent 9 week mode, in which case they would want to keep quiet to milk players who didnt hear about it yet as much as they can

[rustic stump]

Sounds like they are slowly migrating people over to HSR and ZZZ

Without saying it

[hard meadow]

well ofc they want cross game pollination

if someone is thinking of quitting one game better they move on to another their game than just leave completely

[rustic stump]

But they also want to slowly turn off HI3rd after pt2 failed to bring in new players

[hard meadow]

they want to earn less money?

[rustic stump]

Of course, but with GI-HSR-ZZZ

[hard meadow]

thats pretty thick

[rustic stump]

They are losing money outside of China

[hard meadow]

losing on what?

[rustic stump]

On potential sales

[shrewd socket]

if the other games had a better gacha system id consider playing them, but since they dont...

[hard meadow]

??

im sorry but i dont follow

[shrewd socket]

you say it if like glb was bigger than CN

[rustic stump]

It’s not needed when you can collect husbandos…which imo is what I think makes the other games more popular

[hard meadow]

you are stating that "they are losing potential sales by not killing hi3"

can you elaborate that logic

[rustic stump]

I’m saying the opposite.

[shrewd socket]

characters are characters, and i dont play games just for them

[rustic stump]

They are losing money due to pt2 not making up for the money they put into making the game interesting for current gacha gamers …at least imo

[shrewd socket]

you do realize

[rustic stump]

Same, but I can’t say the same for all gacha players

[shrewd socket]

you're comparing an 7 year old game to games that are half that?

[rustic stump]

I really love this game, but I don’t want glb to be eos

[rustic stump]

Yes

[final locust]

glb is not gonna eos

[hard meadow]

but you said they are losing money "outside of china", so development costs should already be covered by chinese players. only costs for running global are translation, servers and support staff

[shrewd socket]

ppl is just gonna complain for a while and then get used to it

[hard meadow]

i dont believe for one moment that global income cant cover that

[shrewd socket]

then who knows if they go back to 6 week patches

[rustic stump]

Idk, it feels more and more like it with each patch

[shrewd socket]

and then some ppl would miss 9 week lenth

[hoary mountain]

More gem hoarding time for moi

[rustic stump]

I hope CN can over the costs

[final locust]

they wont EoS global or SEA, theres no real reason for them to bc it doesnt cost them enough money to care

[small wing]

idk man

[shrewd socket]

they EoS GGZ on GLB and SEA bc there was no way out, not simply bc "it doesnt make money"

[final locust]

anyone who says that is just fear mongering for whatever reason

[small wing]

2 mil per month on average should be like

way more than enough to make back what it takes to develop hi3

[rustic stump]

I hope you’re right

[final locust]

yeah people love to bring up the fact that they EoS'd GGZ but when GGZ EoS'd hi3 was their only moneymaker
hyv is racking up 200 mil+ per month now, they dont need to EoS

[rustic stump]

Please explain

[hard meadow]

hi3 is still doing quite decently as a gacha game. it only looks bad compared to the behemoths that are gi and hsr

but so does kinda every other gacha

[shrewd socket]

i dont see a reason to just cut a gacha game with a not too greedy system

compared to others

[rustic stump]

But companies are cheapo and usually defend massive money makers more

[muted mauve]

it was a year into GI release

[edgy drift]

They are not losing money

[final locust]

didnt know that but GI wasnt making too much money before like really late 2021/early 2022 right? and now they have HSR and ZZZ

[edgy drift]

if games can keep running with a hundredth of hi3 profits, hi3 is doing very fine

[final locust]

yeah they kept ToF going for this long. HI3 is fine

[shrewd socket]

ToT is still up even

[edgy drift]

the GI/HSR/whatever giant numbers are just making people not realise how much money there still is in there

[rustic stump]

Didn’t the game blow up during the pandemic? That’s when I first heard about it.

[muted mauve]

it made 100m in 2 weeks of release

[final locust]

well damn

personally i didnt start hearing about GI until spring 2021

[edgy drift]

GI's full development costs were earned back in a week

[rustic stump]

I heard about it during the pandemic

[final locust]

me too

[edgy drift]

well yeah that's when it released

september 2020

[rustic stump]

Yeah my point exactly

[hard meadow]

i was staying up for the release idk where i even heard about it, i certainly wasnt playing hi3 back then

[shrewd socket]

didnt G game have a 6 week banner once and had to compensate for it?

[final locust]

genshin is only where it is now bc of covid

if covid wasnt a thing i think itd be doing much worse

[hoary mountain]

i learned about genshin from Shenpai. is that a me thing?

[small wing]

Nah I think that's a fair person to learn bout it from

She has like what 2 mil followers?

[rustic stump]

You’re correct.

If only that happened to HI3rd, but it needed the husbando market for that to happen

And this isn’t the game for that

[hard meadow]

ok thats one too many delulu for me

[final locust]

GI hasnt released a male since like.... last year

[small wing]

I learned about genshin cause it shared an anniversary with my favorite gacha (rip dragalia) and I loved to shit on it for memes

[edgy drift]

that has nothing to do with it tho

[rustic stump]

1 husbando is enough for gay men and straight women

[edgy drift]

you know what also released 2 months before GI and nobody even knows it exists ? Tears of Themis

[rustic stump]

Are you sure?

[muted mauve]

last year was 2 months ago

[final locust]

i know

[final locust]

people know ToT exists nobody plays it

[edgy drift]

and their entire thing is "husbando"

[rustic stump]

Anything before GI doesn’t exist in most gacha players’ mind

[hoary mountain]

yea but that last ''husbando'' was kinich and hes such a fraud in the story

[final locust]

unpopular opinion but i think HSR is hyv's best and #1 game

lmfao

[noble cobalt]

Actually yeah why are people even talking about an EoS if the global Honkai server if ToT is still up 💀

[shrewd socket]

ppl didnt join genshin bc it had playable males, they did bc it looked like Zelda

[edgy drift]

[rustic stump]

Not unpopular opinion. Autoplay+husbandos

[final locust]

husbando is not a market

[edgy drift]

free to play botw on mobile and pc

that's all people looked at

[muted mauve]

?

[rustic stump]

They’ll thirst anything tbh

[small wing]

Me with hi3

[rustic stump]

Yes it is.

Otome games

[hoary mountain]

oh they did. as a twitter lurker they definately did

[edgy drift]

ToT is doing very fine

[noble cobalt]

Well yeah Honkai looks bad compared to the 3 biggest gacha games on the planet but

It’s not ACTUALLY doing bad 😭

[small wing]

But that's also partially cause I can adore literal dogshit if I like the writing enough

[muted mauve]

tot is right of honkai cn

[rustic stump]

Also that

[edgy drift]

yeah it's doing fine

[edgy drift]

not also, that's 99% of the reason

[shrewd socket]

you say husbandos like its the only way a gacha game can sell

[edgy drift]

people played it that didn't even know what the hell a gacha is, that's why it blew up, it reached the mainstream crowd. "Husbando" or "waifu" or whatever is not the mainstream crowd

[shrewd socket]

by that logic ToT should be the one with highest revenue

[muted mauve]

i don't think there will be eos.
but I'm seeing slow down on the content pumpline

[hard meadow]

lads would like to know your location

[small wing]

People like bringing up genshin numbers vs LADS numbers but they're not really the best comparison to be making

[shrewd socket]

it's just anime game that looked like Zelda for them

[small wing]

The people whaling in genshin aren't the people whaling in LADS

[edgy drift]

Hi3 can't keep new players because it has horrendous UI and beginner experience, nothing to do with not having males in there

[small wing]

They have completely separate markets

[noble cobalt]

Why would they slow down? It’s not like hoyoverse is unable to pay the bills LMAO

Sure there was that big fine they got but they probably made that back in like a week

[final locust]

well they are slowing down and making patches longer

[rustic stump]

Sometimes it is. Waifu games aren’t popular enough compared to husbando games

[muted mauve]

3 9 week patches in a row is not slowing down?

[final locust]

what the fuck is this supposed to mean

[rustic stump]

I know

[versed garden]

[final locust]

[edgy drift]

you'll be able to claim that if it does repeat for at least another one

for now it's just an exceptional occurence

[shrewd socket]

now you're just trying to convince everyone

[rustic stump]

Otome games make bank

[noble cobalt]

Is 8.3 9 weeks? Where was that confirmed

[final locust]

so does genshin, HSR, ZZZ, and wuwa

[muted mauve]

bp post. 8.3 bp pass redeem period was 64 days

[hoary mountain]

every day i wake up and see honkai impact on my pc, i thank whichever hoyo employee came up with the free herrscher of human:ego right before her divine key. thank you

[edgy drift]

both extremes do

[rustic stump]

Because they have husbandos as well. Mixed gender audience is a good thing for profits

[final locust]

it was so generous i dont know why they did that

[edgy drift]

girls only games, guys only games, anything in between, they all make money

[noble cobalt]

I see, well this could just be pointless theorizing but I wonder if they’re going to slow down the development on the other games too in preparation of a new hoyoverse IP

[final locust]

very out of character for hyv. like for HoFi they made you get her in spending event

[hoary mountain]

is there a husbando game for the gays? every husband gacha i've seen has female MC lock

[final locust]

love in deepspace

[hoary mountain]

isnt that also female mc tho

[noble cobalt]

LADS has female MC

[small wing]

Multiple but they're mostly r-18 and in varying levels of quality

[final locust]

yeah but all the chars are men and theyre all shirtless

they may as well all be naked

[hoary mountain]

mkay i wont ask further

[small wing]

They also all ugly

[hoary mountain]

WOOOOW

the shade is wild

[lone grove]

whate the fuck excuse me

[small wing]

I absolutely do not get the appeal of the guys in LADS, they all identical looking in a bad way

[small wing]

Has a male MC option too now apparently

[final locust]

well the same goes for genshin but people eat that shit up on the daily

[edgy drift]

isn't it the same post saying stuff in a version's shop will be available for 3 whole patches ? And we also see 8.4 shop already up in that screenshot. So that's not the duration of 8.3 patch at all

[final locust]

the genshin glaze has to be studied WHAT do people find appealing about that game

[rustic stump]

Not right now. Companies are advertising towards straight women at the moment in the husbando market

[final locust]

can you stop saying husbando

[rustic stump]

Either way, HI3rd is just not making the money it used to be, and all of the factors I brought up imo are the reasons why

[final locust]

i cringe every time you say it

[hard meadow]

lads has a heckin period tracker i dont think its mainly aimed at gays

[edgy drift]

Like if stuff stays for 3 patches and 8.4 is already half way done in that screenshot (with standard 6 weeks patch), that's 3 weeks before 8.2 shop goes away (8.5 release) and 6 more weeks before 8.3 shop goes away (8.6 release)

[hoary mountain]

the manliest time of the month. period cramps

[noble cobalt]

Would a game targeted towards the LGBTQ+ community even be profitable? In every country, LGBTQ+ is like less than 5% of the population

[rustic stump]

There’s nothing wrong with the word husbando.

[final locust]

yes there is

[edgy drift]

I mean, you can see how the recent games for them ended up

[hoary mountain]

a wise man once said Dont kill the cringe part of you. kill the part that cringes

[hard meadow]

its just a pretty fun game. the breath of the wild analogies on release were not too far off the mark. so you get a free fun AAA game. whats not to like

[edgy drift]

granted they were bad games at a fundamental level tho

[muted mauve]

it says you can redeem the pass in the current version to get access to that version + available past versions
And you can see 8.2 is already unlocked while 8.3 has a 64 day timer to redeem the pass.

[final locust]

its not fun at all tho the endgame is unbearable

events are recycled dogshit

[hard meadow]

dont play the endgame then

[final locust]

every female looks the same

[hard meadow]

i only login on new patch for story/exploration and then quit for 6 weeks

been doing that since sumeru release

[shrewd socket]

i just did the equivalent of pulling a WT valk in G game

[hard meadow]

[edgy drift]

yeah but then since it also unlock past versions when you do, the unlock for that pass would stay available until it goes away

[final locust]

mizuki is an interesting specimen

[edgy drift]

and why would 8.4 shop be there if 8.3 just started

[rustic stump]

Waifu collectors probably like that

[noble cobalt]

If the next 3 patches are all 9 weeks I would hope they’re at least cooking up something

[rustic stump]

I just hope the events and chapters get longer with the longer patches

[shrewd socket]

im mostly like transformative reactions, so having a swirl unit to study was good
yet i get real and dont recommend pulling

it's just fucking your primos for actual limited units

[muted mauve]

Dunno. Can just be a UI thing since it starts on 8.2 and it needs to display 3 items but the actual shop only gets available in 8.4.

[shrewd socket]

didnt ppl hate P2 1-3 bc they were "too long"?

[noble cobalt]

I think people back then were just hating on everything p2 related no matter what it was

[rustic stump]

Yeah but I hate nearly empty patches and I actually liked the first arc

[final locust]

they still are

[small wing]

Nu carnival is decently successful at least?

[shrewd socket]

as long as there's something to do its not rlly empty

[edgy drift]

and their example above specifically mentions buying the BP during 8.4 to unlock 8.2-8.4 BP shops

[small wing]

Tho that more targets fujoshis over queer people

[rustic stump]

Nah shiet chapters plus old short events makes the game empty

[edgy drift]

So it seems fairer to assume that the picture is an illustration of the example

[noble cobalt]

True but I’d say anti-p2s are a minority now unlike the majority they were back when version 7 began

[shrewd socket]

anyways we need fall girls back

[rustic stump]

Most Otome games are for them anyways

[edgy drift]

Well yeah because those people just left

[small wing]

Isn't it coming back in 8.1

[shrewd socket]

when did i say it was

[small wing]

I thought it comes with CNY NY

[shrewd socket]

[final locust]

chinese new year new year'

[shrewd socket]

that's too partial

[hard meadow]

chinese new year (in) new york

[shrewd socket]

actual fall girls came back in 7.5

[muted mauve]

And in their example image 8.4 and 8.3 are locked with 8.2 unlocked. Meaning they bought a pass during the 8.2 version. which yes does make both 8.2 and 8.3 passes worse than 8.4 and forward

I can see what you mean but the reminder being on the 8.3 page reads to me as the timer for that version's pass.

[final locust]

nikki is so awesome

[rustic stump]

I hate the gameplay so much

[edgy drift]

I don't think that's enough to claim 8.3 will be 9 weeks anyways

[final locust]

well i hate you

[rustic stump]

Frontline 2 sounds so much better

[edgy drift]

On top of Hoyo being known for throwing random numbers on such previews more often than not tbh

[rustic stump]

♥️

[small wing]

God it sounds dumb but I hate how genshin ruined the gacha sphere

[edgy drift]

50/50s everywhere

and 0.6%

everybody and their mom copied it

[small wing]

Now every mobage is OW bloatware following genshin art sensibilities

AK endfields models actively make me mad

I know it sounds dumb but it's true

[edgy drift]

I despise OW gachas as a system

Everything that can make OWs good is everything that can't exist in a gacha model

[small wing]

The self insert MC is just absolutely sauceless compared to the doctor in AK

[hard meadow]

both why i cant play gi and hsr actively is the artifact rng. that is the main reason.

sure i dont like 50/50 but i can stomach it

[final locust]

it really did man

like

[small wing]

Wuwa does it infinitely better

[final locust]

they are literally the exact same except weapon is guaranteed

[small wing]

But to counteract the they barely give out artifact EXP in comparison

[small wing]

I mean artifact grind wise

Not in its gacha

[muted mauve]

I hope I'm reading it wrong. I would like if mihoyo even made 5 week patches to compensate the current abomination that is 8.1

[final locust]

50/50 makes 0 sense who deemed it as acceptable

[edgy drift]

they used to do that

[final locust]

why dont people complain about it more

nobody seems to give a shit that the banner theyre pulling on doesnt guarantee them the character

[edgy drift]

https://tenor.com/view/money-mr-krabs-gif-18326632

[final locust]

if we complain about it enough it will be changed in future games but nobody seems to give a shit

[edgy drift]

it guarantees the character tho, just not on the first one

[atomic coral]

for most people, genshin is their first gacha or first game in general

[edgy drift]

that's like, all gachas pretty much

Hi3 is the alien one

[small wing]

Because worse pity systems exist

[final locust]

ive complained about it in multiple gacha servers and there are literally people who defend it like it's wild

[small wing]

Like fate grand orders

[edgy drift]

It makes way too much money to be changed

[muted mauve]

I was there

[atomic coral]

"be grateful, the game is free. the billion dollar company's gotta eat"

[edgy drift]

I sure hope they're not throwing another 9 weeks one too tbh, I already rember the 8 weeks CNY patch being dragged out like crazy and it was a single one

[final locust]

no literally this is what they say

[muted mauve]

still find it that mihoyo is gonna gatekeep Luna gear away from f2p

[shrewd socket]

for some reason they assume no 5050 = no pity

[final locust]

"they have to make money somehow!!" mf its mihoyo

[edgy drift]

Tbh I find it fine

[final locust]

shut up pls

im sorry

[edgy drift]

You can get about 1 character per patch, it's fine

[muted mauve]

this year is longer and has less content

[final locust]

genshin's technically not a 50/50 anymore actually

lmao i totally forgot about that

genshin isnt a 50/50

[hard meadow]

the most effective way to "complain" is not to spend any money. i mean what else you gonna do

but ppl still spend like crazy so it dont seem to be a problem

[final locust]

my money makes no diff to them

even if everyone boycotted them CN would still be glazing the game like crazy

[edgy drift]

50/50 is one of the most profitable systems

[shrewd socket]

one-sided benefit

[final locust]

erm ackshully genshin isnt a 5050

[edgy drift]

that's why they all copy it now

[shrewd socket]

it's bad as long as it has a way to lose

[edgy drift]

do you want somebody to ask you why that much ?

[final locust]

no im just sayin

[edgy drift]

it's the same shit either way, it can be 50, 70 or 30 the system is the same

it's the concept of losing giving you a guarantee that makes money

[rustic stump]

Yeah there’s very little creativity anymore. Everyone wants to be hoyo

[muted mauve]

welp. 6 hours to go and finish the rest of Luna rerun.
When was the ER lite event...

[hard meadow]

its been a while

it had songque on it so

probably that patch

[shrewd socket]

7.6

[hard meadow]

yeah there we go

[muted mauve]

I'm talking about this patch's

[rustic stump]

Yeah open world doesn’t work well on mobile

[hard meadow]

usually last 2 weeks?

didnt it replace hot on the trail

for that patch

[shrewd socket]

imagine somebody telling you "your MC has way less personality than a school profressor"

[rustic stump]

I hate the self inset mc, even in hoyo games

[muted mauve]

still 9 days

[shrewd socket]

no?

that was powerful duo

[hard meadow]

[final locust]

seems like powered duo/HotT rotate every patch

this patch is HotT, next patch will be powered duo

[shrewd socket]

didnt we have both once?

[rustic stump]

ArKnights be like…

[edgy drift]

every non-Hi3 gacha be like

pretty much every gacha has multiple characters on their banners

[shrewd socket]

doesn't HI3 have overlapping banners sometimes?

[edgy drift]

Hoyo with Gi spread that specific system of doing it, but not being guaranteed the uprate on first drop is nothing new

[edgy drift]

But each has their own banner

[shrewd socket]

fair

[edgy drift]

you can't get Karen when pulling for Jake

[rustic stump]

ArKnights usually have 5 top picks + a lot of old characters everyone already has

[edgy drift]

Hell most older gacha didn't have any guarantee whatsoever

like FGO

[shrewd socket]

but FGO has it now-

[edgy drift]

take note of the past tense

any kind of guarantee makes fomo hit a lot harder

even if it limits how high the highest spenders will go

it makes way more people break the spending point

gacha banners evolution is just companies finding the balance between ripping out your money, making you want to shell out your money and preventing you from thinking you should not shell out your money

[hard meadow]

and adhering to some legislation

[upper mulch]

is elysia gonna be free or spending event or wt anytime soon

i missed her recent giveout bc of exams

[versed garden]

yes 330 pulls for guarantee, worth it
I'm just happy there is a guarantee so I don't need to go to 1500 pulls without getting what I want like what used to happen before the change

still a VN with a shitty gacha attached

[versed garden]

no news yet, though if I go off of senti treatment give it like 2-3 patches or till end of year
that's my estimate so take this with a grain of salt

[shrewd socket]

didnt Senti go to dorm before being free?

[versed garden]

she did

[noble cobalt]

Wasn’t she just free in 7.9

[versed garden]

read the next line

[noble cobalt]

Ohhhh

[final locust]

lmao

no
sorry man

she might be WT at some point

or she'll be in that perma BP shop

[short knoll]

it's not that bad, not like f2p can get much from current bp system anyway, but with new system, they can get everything given enough time and luna will go to reverse shop too

[muted mauve]

and luna will go to reverse shop too
We don't know how long that will take and you should know how thing lose value with time

[short knoll]

not like they can get good value with current system

they wont just make another valk + gear shop for it to be the same as old shops, i expect it will have good enough value

at least better than exchange shop and WT

[terse ravine]

Again disclaimer: im not bald

(How to bald at 481D)

[rain spindle]

who balds at 481D?

[rustic stump]

Ely is free for new players

[abstract night]

She is?

[rustic stump]

I think so, same with Sena I think

[abstract night]

[rustic stump]

I’m not 100%

[nova osprey]

No she isnt, sena is on starter, and hohe is paid

[rustic stump]

Sure

[rustic stump]

Oh ok. Thanks for letting me know

[gleaming imp]

Tbf starless will always be a thing to cater to us p1 boomers so Luna has that going for her

I don’t think they’d drop starless weathers since us p1 boomers want our p1/p1.5 valks to have something going for them

[still condor]

They def will drop starless eventually

One day p2 will be strong enough to just brute force it

[gleaming imp]

At that point they’ll just change the weather again to nerf p2 and buff p1 even more in it

[still condor]

No they wont

They just won't run starless anymore

[gleaming imp]

But what about us p1 boomers?

[abstract night]

Always ?

Theres a limited amount of pt1 valks

[gleaming imp]

I mean goal of the weather was to make a select few p1 valks get a bone thrown at them so us p1 boomers can be happy in a post p2 world

[abstract night]

I like p1(.5) and p2

[hard meadow]

already was so the buffed the weather from 30% to 50%

gotta sell those fov adv

[abstract night]

Imagine it goes 50->150

[hard meadow]

doubt it will go anymore

cause this is the last p1 thing to sell

then no more p1 banners, no more need to shill p1 valks

[abstract night]

...makes me sad

[gleaming imp]

[abstract night]

Ill be even more sad when hofi gets added to dorm

Gonna make me feel oldish

[hard meadow]

well they will still probably try to milk luna and fov adv one more time

[abstract night]

[hard meadow]

hofi and ely maybe too when they rerun their dkey

[rustic stump]

Once she gets herself a dk or becomes dependent fully on Sparkle, would the Starless weather even better anymore?

[still condor]

It only exists so people can stop pretending that p2 powercrept every p1 valk immediately

[gleaming imp]

[hard meadow]

the future is here old man

[verbal mountain]

let p2 rule

except qua

[abstract night]

Im so glad pt1 has an entire type to itself

It is a logical choice

With it being bio and everything

[short knoll]

nothing really changed, old valks have niche use till they dont

[abstract night]

True

It just wasnt as
Intense before i suppose?

There was always those random broken asf valks mixed in tho

[short knoll]

not sure about that, i mean we get about the same amount of new valk in the same amount of time, they can only take so much place in meta
the issue is ppl talk about p2 more make it looks like a big issue

[rustic stump]

When I complain about how p1 has been treated, I get talked down lol

[plucky cradle]

delete p1 when

[short knoll]

with the longer patch, i guess ppl can complain less about meta and powercreep

less new valk to powercreep your valk fast

[hard meadow]

i guess its more time for them to run some old niche weathers in a patch

maybe can get a flying fish in there for some bricking

unless dudu stole it

[rustic stump]

Starless will probably gone by November of this year? Would that be long enough to sunset 1.5?

[short knoll]

i guess they could be gone now already, i dont have strong attachment with old valk

[glass nacelle]

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X · Feb 16, 2025, 1:35 AM

[gleaming imp]

#glblul

[glass nacelle]

[verbal mountain]

cnlul

[prisma tartan]

earthlul

[still vine]

that feeling when starless is so fucked now that potential man DPS gets like 80 more points than an s2 vita

[nova osprey]

Oh how much ce scored

[still vine]

like 550

[abstract night]

CE dps was never meant to last 😔

This ce hate hurts

[still vine]

apparently it was since it's my best option since starless is dumb

[gleaming imp]

Isn’t that a good thing since it means starless is working as intended and being anti p2

[abstract night]

80 points is nothing once disturbance kicks in

[glass nacelle]

p2 just doesn't get buff, not anti

[still vine]

sure but my p1 teams are ass so now i don't get to play the game

[abstract night]

I guess ur cooked then

[gleaming imp]

Aren’t you a fellow p1 boomer?

[still vine]

no i struggled to even survive a3 until p2 saved me

[gleaming imp]

How?

[still vine]

because all i had were scuffed dollar store teams that weren't 12/12

[gleaming imp]

[glass nacelle]

+100 pls

[muted mauve]

This act should've been released 2 days ago

[abstract night]

Lunar Astralogos

[glass nacelle]

kek

[muted mauve]

They increased the exp income so much.

Literally maxed items on act 3 release

[glass nacelle]

[short knoll]

8.2 will be better trust, they got 9 weeks for that

[unique swallow]

skill issue i fear

[glass nacelle]

10 hours story

[short knoll]

story length is whatever, still just few days of content
and many story skipper

[hazy seal]

story skippers skipping, till a cg pops to post earlier than lore readers finish for viral clicks

[muted mauve]

you're talking like if people aren't posting them even before chapter release (and getting rightfully banned from miyoushe for that)

[hazy seal]

yeah like people posting cgs early in general (like before story release and just when the chapter is out.) like for example, an hour since story release and someone already posted all chapter's cgs without reading lore cause they skipped

[prisma tartan]

do we know who 8.2 bp valk now?

[muted mauve]

no

[prisma tartan]

okey

[edgy drift]

We know 8.3 tho

[unique swallow]

[edgy drift]

And I just realized but it kinda looks like there's Brick too

Could also be kiaelf tho

Prolly Kiaelf unless they decided to make a weap more expensive than another

[muted mauve]

I think it's just: Card, Stamp, Weapon, Stigmata T, Stigmata M

[edgy drift]

Oh ye stamp I can see it

But then that's a hella expensive stamp since the cost is in red

And weap/stigs are black

[muted mauve]

Maybe it's a bundle instead of single purchase like now
Or they are gonna make people pay more for ranks

[edgy drift]

But ye now that you mentioned stamp I do see it more than the other stuff

[muted mauve]

don't worry I saw Kia elf when I first saw the image too. I had 3 hours of sleep at the time

[edgy drift]

Just the price is concerning

[edgy drift]

Checks out

[short knoll]

true, the price seem weird, tho if it's brick, it should be the same as the cross

rip ppl that only need few stamp

[muted mauve]

AND Done

[grand viper]

[glass nacelle]

[muted mauve]

only takes 7 days to get max map.

they increased the XP earnings by alot.
If I knew I wouldn't have saved daily mission tickets before acts.

Since I overleveled.

now. What is there to do this week

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

do mine

[muted mauve]

no

[plucky cradle]

do mine

[prisma tartan]

coralie is here,the cope

[muted mauve]

no

[long forum]

So does Ely just take all the non-bio ice weather bosses from thelema

I'm trying to weight how much i'll lose out on if i skip her

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

*do mine

[plucky cradle]

they should never rerun events like this again it's so exhausting

[mossy escarp]

Ezskip

[muted mauve]

card event was worse

[plucky cradle]

true

but it took less time

[glass nacelle]

i need machine translate to play card event

[plucky cradle]

imejin

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

just learn chinese ez

[glass nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/vita-chibipiyo-honkai-impact-3rd-gif-4787064776639033678

[glass nacelle]

teach me tks

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

I wonder what's behind her

....ai ?

[muted mauve]

it didn't

I speedran the whole Luna event in like 5 hours total.
Card event 10k hours because I keep falling asleep

[glass nacelle]

skill issue

[muted mauve]

They discarded Kiamei Wedding outfits (w/Bronya flowergirl)

And they discarded Vita matching Griseo outfit.

😔

[short knoll]

himeko

[abstract night]

Not like u could use ce and vita together 😔

[muted mauve]

I wanted office drama lore

[grand viper]

p2 griseo when ?

(don't make her bleed though, delete bleed)

[muted mauve]

Griseo above everyone else should get involved on Mars situation.
She literally found the Mars ruins like 2.5k years ago

[short knoll]

honkai

[glass nacelle]

[nova osprey]

Next arc surely

[gleaming imp]

P2 griseo to be our p2 bleed Valk

[short knoll]

luna dkey first

[gleaming imp]

Luna dkey when she's farmable from BP for us f2ps

[short knoll]

8.3 horb dk
8.5 or 8.6 luna dkey

[gleaming imp]

And that'll be another psy dk to put lamp another 6ft down under after Ely dk

[short knoll]

range + hitcount, should be useful somewhere still

[gleaming imp]

A lv dkey theoretically should cover all of that

[gilded wadi]

Yeah Idk how she managed to not get involved

[muted mauve]

she is kinda 4500AU away from the nearest terminal

[opaque stirrup]

Will elysia be updated in ER following her dkey release?

[glass nacelle]

If you mean adding astral ring effects then yes

[opaque stirrup]

oo neat
also what rank of hohe would a f2p be able to reach excluding pulls?

[edgy drift]

Yesn't, she wants Thelema in the team and Thel does most of the non-SO DPS so it's a joint effort really

[edgy drift]

Highest possible for someone that had S0 on release and didn't spend a cent is SS1

5 stamps from supply shop, then free card, then 5 more stamps from supply shop again

[gleaming imp]

With this hindsight does this mean Ely wasn't bait after all?

[long forum]

Never been bait

Ely meta

[short knoll]

for f2p, getting them stamp in supply shop is kinda impossible

[edgy drift]

Not if they committed to it

[quasi glen]

Wdym

[edgy drift]

It's unlikely because they'd need to not have bought other stuff, but not impossible

[quasi glen]

F2p doesn't mean you never pull

[edgy drift]

Also depends on how old

With all A ranks maxed out you get a lot of tokens

But since we already assumed they got Ely on release, I'd say old enough

[glass nacelle]

just skip

[short knoll]

doesnt mean you could have enough for it unless you dont buy anything and play for a very long time

[glass nacelle]

use thelema instead

[quasi glen]

I mean the precedence was having hhe on her launch

[long forum]

In a perfect world i get Kiana and Teri early and then i skip hohe and get vita outfit instead

[gleaming imp]

Real, Elysian everlasting

[short knoll]

i have HoH since launch, and she is S2 only
i dont have enough for 10 stamp from supply shop

[quasi glen]

Only other reasonable stamp pickup was htr iirc

[quasi glen]

You don't need 10 stamp, only 5

[short knoll]

they said SS1 tho

[quasi glen]

Oh wait gurdil said Ss1

[gleaming imp]

I would've had enough for 10 Ely stamps but i used in its previous iteration for affix rerolling since I didn't know better

[quasi glen]

I can see SS at minimum if you had hhe from launch

[glass nacelle]

my s2 hohe still retains RL kek

[quasi glen]

SS1 needed a lot of future foresight

[glass nacelle]

[short knoll]

still, hotr more important

[quasi glen]

You'd need to predict hhe revival during first supply shop

[glass nacelle]

htr in 2025

[gleaming imp]

I mean hot and hor got dkey around hoh, one could've assumed that hoh would eventually get a dkey?