#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
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actually, it's WT + exchange shop + foundry = reserve shop
Yay?
it has valk too
yes, but still unknown for f2p
seem so, i guess it shouldnt matter much since f2p can just wait for them to be added to reserve shop
Sad
doubt many would do that with the chain of bad sign recently 
@edgy drift Veterans treatment moment
其中商 品同样可使用恒质纯晶兑换
what is this referring to?
Wait WTF The gear supply card is removed
you get crystal instead
Permanent Crystallum can be exchanged for items added in Reserve Workshop after version 8.2
same currency as BP shop? guess that's for f2p
https://youtu.be/msEbPXrQOvM?si=SHTIPmYkaJh4okWX
i see lot of player say veteran is worse than new p2 player now 
And is it better than a F2P account from Part 1? Absolutely.
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i think i got more than moriso account after 1 year as a veteran 
Same
my f2p acc 
*whel
🐳
How is badum kiana's value looking?

…why my account not like that
Am i really that bad at game
yes
Pretty good I think
The truth hurts
Just needs vita and jds (for sd bosses) as a dps (and dudu but only for one boss)
as a support she's good for ws
seem like a normal S rank, nothing crazy

Holy shit, Dudu's actually useful in LoA? Which boss exactly
Would she smack sena teri or vita
Asusming
Sena dps Vita/Kiana/Teri
Teri dps Vita/Kiana/Sena

What did Sena and Teri forget there as supps 
Ive been using like
teri vita sena (flip flop sena and teri positions if sena dps)
Do you not have HoFi dkey?
No

flux wolf
basically any boss with shield
cause shieldbreki
she's like the thelema of LoA except remove everything useful besides shieldbreak

🗿
She has stun trauma
so basically she's not the thelema of LoA

sena vita kiana
teri kiana vita
prob
thanks for getting the joke
i don't think bref has hofi dk
gdi bref
So just smack the teri/sena lol?
Now we need a new Mei battlesuit 
yea
apho 3 soon trust
APHO mei pls
lyo ban pls
Is it really possible?
How did they make peak gameplay and then decide to put the basic atk spammer in main game instesd
...why would it not be
As in, does it work well in higher stages?
absolute sw-inema
That was terrible
ok.
(pls keep doing that)
Sw.?
yea
kiana is destined to be good in WS ig
kiana atk is annoying, literally sena 2.0
Congrats chat you got it

waiting for next kiana to be WS so we can have 3 kiana team
i got it first do i get a prize
The more I hear about this battlesuit the happer I get
Imagine they add timido instead
does she not have Iframes during the snake rush attack?
💀
You win another video comment
damn
she does but her NA not, and she is prone to miss atk
just don't miss atks
just dont miss 4head
yea its ely dkey for me
Its 3 ely dkeys for me
Chakram Bio Ice

Wow breath leaking pls ban
if they add Timido i will litteraly do a blood ritual for hoyo. for legal reasons this is a joke
I love the concept of ice skates being a weapon I just hate timido
please stop
im still begging for Timido, APHO Mei, APHO Seele and Apho Liliya
lyo ban all these timido truthers pls
Then the supports make her do the hiya chop ult 
I want to
i might be cooked
F
my favorite weapon in bayonetta is litteray Odette (the ice skates)
kek
I want APHO mei with basic core playstyle
:)
Imagine the aerial slashes being WS support or some shit that would be cooool
Id love illusion gameplay
welcome to suffering
Hmmmm not bad either
They have so many opportunities for APHO mei and just trashed it for years
Why
Pt2 ofc
they hate money
Make her not die like sw and not need 40 ranks
Where apho mei
fr who the heck even is susannah
Literally
She just appeared
wait i feel like i remember we saw Seele with APHO characters and she was stuck as stygian nymph am i wrong?
Can she disappear
please tell me im wrong
I don't remember lol
There was some kind of fucked up point in the story after veli and seele got separated and she went delulu in sn outfit or something
I just remember that fucked up mirror scene
wasn't that on the moon base arc with lyle lol
Oh shit maybe
no i dont think it was APHO 2
kid lyle
when i say apho characters i meant like the core 3 as adults and then stygian nymph seele
maybe i just dreamed of that
i occasionally mix up reality with my dreams
i had a dream once where i pulled a Rita with a giant warhammer
and yelan in the same 5 pull

idk man im just kinda delulu sometimes


maybe you're thinking about https://youtu.be/0B1OoA4vO4g?si=P25iddoBHT3647_m ? it does have apho mei and bronya in it
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GOD
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i hate abyss


hey aren't those BP changes actually insane
ngl im still a bit confused about the bp change
prolly gonna finally go ahead and nab 4/4 luna with em
either that or finally finish P1 trio
ngl i would like if they make old dkeys accessible in any way that is f2p since my atk really needs an improvement
same here
What changes did bp receive?
Oh I have them already lol
Also does badum kiana need S Teri or is SS DS alr (redlotus)
From what i ve noticed her damage is fine with S teri. sS provides AR recharge buffs and kianans full rotation does a ton of damage. At least in red lotus she won t be needing that many buffs against Sa but she does get a relatively eh score of around 650
The characters i used her with were songque and vita
I m trying to make f2p guides so i don t rely on op/elfs and i always try to use the standard one
its in the first pin in this channel
i wonder if the crystallum amount will remain the same
ds is good in RL
teri matters more in nirv where the 2nd shift is huge
If you're drya maybe
Otherwise there's really not much point in collecting old valks
650 on Sa with the bis team at 480d is insanely low
I mean fully collecting P1 trio should still be decent for my account 
Have fun playing s0 trio lmfao
I’m so happy with these new changes, they’re perfect for a p1 boomer like me with nostalgia bias 
yeah it's called pay or you only have access to permanent shop
And this means I can 4/4 old valks like FoV and LV and all the others I want if I’m interpreting it correctly 
Hotruth ranks will be my priority for my hofin since herrscher trio on top because of nostalgia 
LV is in the paid shop

What about hotruth? 
you dont need SS in RL
Eh ..probably true
we don't know. We only know LV is paid because she is in v8.3 shop
damn so they killed bp
What
Thats what happend?

I really hotruth stamps are accessible I need s2/ss

UR RUNNING S0?

For my hofin, HoO, and mobius
Stamps where? 7.8 was used on 3s kiaelf
If ur getting lv then ur not gonna use hotr with mobi
we don't know what permanent shop has to be saying that
I get SS eepy Teri soon 8.5 
we all know theyre not putting good shit in permanent 
SS does nothing
S2 is a teeny weeny 6%ish total dmg increase for non teris
Granted 8.1 and 8.2 also is a 9 week patch so not soon soon but more time to save up at least 
But SS shiny 
We know 8.1 and 8.2 are 9 weeks from crystallum.
If the ai-chan tea party image is not misleading, 8.3 will also be 9 weeks (image says 63 days and a few hours left to redeem BP pass and unlock)
Please don't let this be standard.
It would result in 5.7 patches a year.
Wait
Bp pass?
battle pass pass 
The little tickets?
the ones already in-game
Wouldn’t that be a good thing for f2ps?
these ones
OH
it would be a good thing for addicts if that's what you meant
OKAY phew
I thought it was worse
sure ig but 9 weeks sounds boring as fuck
Gives someone like me more time to save up crystals for adv funds 
Like the raffle tickets would expire
Think of all the new crystal income per patch 
Think of player retention
draya youd have to wait soooooooo much longer for ADV
ADV reruns


That’s a good thing it means more time to save up funds for it 
It means I can get more advs 
i mean if you dont want to play that valk for 2 entire years maybe
Drya doesn't care about the actual game just pulling ranks
Well you see ranks shiny 
No they’re not 
For f2ps
I estimated around 35k for BP+monthly next patch
drya when he waits 2 years because 9 weeks patches only to learn p2 valks arent getting ADV 

This is without accounting for the freebies
What the income without BP and monthly for us f2ps? 
Like 26k or smth
With freebies it's probably 30k

Easy thelema adv funds 
Oh but

Unfortunately no other valk provides what she provides and for some illogical reason they made my queen ely tied to that new bad valk thelema 
fake nostalgia enjoyer

why are you even using ely with a p2 team
...uhm well
Theres a lack of pt2 ice valks yk?
Yeah I thought you wanted nostalgia
Rime trauma aint coming from her
His kira is like 0/4 and jk is 1/4
forcing your queen to use a smelly p2 mechanic is pretty toxic
Only way to avoid this is if they released a new ice valk that can provide freeze for my ely and is a p1 cast valk but they’ve been avoiding ice like the plague it’ll be a lighting valk 8.2 
Wait lighting, I forgot new helibad 
I like helia
helibad would probably be fire tho
But new bad and doesn’t give nostalgia

Helia would probably be fire
maybe you can cope that sushang isnt just an outfit and is still ice and also has shieldbreak and freeze and supports WoD 
I want my ely to thrive okay

Then pull all the other WoD supports for maximum coverage
Looks too much like a event skin to me

It’s so plain though 
It’s CNY so I give it a pass
Im excited for 8.1

But the new look is so
🛐 idk what’s different between this look and hofin but I really like this look 
Why dont u like 8.1 cny kiana
I like cny Kiana but the older looking hofin I like more 
Maybe that "hofi looking like kiana" is younger 
Idk there’s a visible difference between hofin and the older hofin look 
Imagining it
Plus it appeals to my nostalgia as a p1 boomer, like remember how they did this as a reference and how you remembered this scene from when you started the game and they recreated it, it’s like a throwback for my nostalgia 
UHM isnt cny kiana also "appealing to boomers"
Wait that's a reference?
Yes
Dont see it
The nostalgia 
She also has nostalgia appeal but I do think the older hofin look will be a suit so I’ll skip cny Kiana for that 
Meh
but doesn't it appeal to your nostalgia?
No.?

just bc it's 7-8 years old stuff doesn't mean it's nostalgic
More so about how they made Kiana in 8.0 event do this pose from the first chapter and how it gives nostalgia 
This pose
it doesn't give nostalgia
it's just a reference

we will start getting info about 8.2 starting at the 4th week in 8.1 (global) right?
week 7 probably
oh if you mean v2 beta then yeah
im very curious about how the new bp is gonna have but ugh it's gonna take forever until we get to see it
Everything before HoHe that was on bp and some of the dkey
oh??? fr???
Yeah, i was checking miyoshi and found ai directly say so
im definitely sniping the dkeys
Oh wait, nvm, it says further range of stuff, not every bp
God my reading ability


we'll see next week when the beta goes public
Yeah, am super hype of it
wait 8.2 open beta is next week??
yea normal schedule
Cus that mean I can finally have a chance to build up some of the old stuff
I thought they would've made it later due to the version now lasting 9 weeks
they just gonna test longer 

finally i can try to get CN beta
v 3.999-final-2-finished
oh? i thought bc cn is 6 weeks ahead we will have to wait for longer
aside from old dkeys if they get added i can't think of what else that i can get
so I'll just wait for cn info
Well that isn't strictly true
Besides. Breath initially started in 5.8 so he has no connection to that image regardless
nostalgia overload in this chat fr
(speaking as someone who joined a few patches before p2)
I joined mobius patch
I joined on Nyx 👶
We're boomers 
joined on Seele Shallowtail, quit after a month, came back at Senti release
Where was this information confirmed?
I don't see any beta announcement on CN news zone rn 
i joined during genshin Collab (one patch bf hof and i didn't stay ffs)
took a fat slumber and woke up to CS
i wonder how would i have been if life didn't make me quit honkai back then
isnt it always same week as glb get the previous patch
no
so basically i missed out of most of p1 hell fun 🥸
ok we'll see then whenever it goes live 
week before the update, and 8.2 update is next month for CN, 8.1 lasts 9 weeks
no. it´s 3 weeks later because 8.1 is 9 weeks long instead of 6
We need to be very careful about being confident on stating the date of content, when there are no official announcements corroborating such.
its not like we can play it anyway 
us glblul 

who's us
Ayo khai

actually i have a question
how's FWS (new kiana) ranks?
if i get new kiana + ely dkey too early for horb card, should i bother on pulling more to reach the milestone or is it wiser to just save?
considering that the other rewards aren't too important for me personally

go for theresa astral op
oh 
Ye def Theresop if you want to pull more
i play in rl btw, would going all in for teri be recommended if i don't reach thr milestone?
biggest upgrade to the team amongst the premium stuff
I fucked up and accidentally pulled sparkle, and by accidentally I mean it was the 2nd of february and I forgot that DK Ely could be played with Kiana, so I pulled sparkle as the last member needed for kiana team 😭
if i reach the milestone b4 getting teri in her supply should i keep going?
imo she makes the team more enjoyable as well because of the extra shift so it can be considered if you like LoA valks
do you have any other astral op beside dreamseeker?
Theresa Op synergies with kiana, unless I'm crazy I swear I've seen kiana having one tick of her charge bar already filled when played with theresa op, making rotation 0,5s quicker
i see! will consider
i really like kiana and her new battlesuit but im not sure how will the gameplay feel when i get to test her
you begin with 84/200 bar instead of 50/60 with other ops
oo
must feel good thinking about the what if lucky case, I always stand on the hard pity zone

As a f2p you can spend more crystals since 8.1 and 8.2 are both 9 weeks think of all the crystals you can get 
6 more weeks of income won't make you rich
it's a good boost but you won't be able to afford everything still
i mean ill assume that 8.2 won't be cracked so i might not feel disappointed that i spend some crystals for an aop for the milestone
with 9 weeks of crystals one can guarantee the S rank character each update
but no weapon
That's why you skip 8.2 Valk

should i share my current savings if it helps?
if you want sure
The valk post cny probably won't be that good 
if they make her the new astral ring 🔫
alr one sec
ill also add the extra income that the crystal calculator suggests if it helps
I wonder what character will be played with kiana and ely together 
Surely they'd be considerate for us since it was just cny 
playable siegfried,
siegfriend, kiana, durandal
ring of kaslana
Siegfried 
(thelema flashbacks)
Just run cny kiana hofin smol dudu
hofin doesn't work well with LoA
HoFi doesn't work on LoA tho?
Oh right 
all she does is trigger the buff from 3 tag in team, has no direct buff for them
They should've named her bonkiana 
help what is this current CN ER Weather
why am i seeing homu dolls instead of red triangles

Just brute force its ER 

I always just do 5 ego and it works out 
They are uh neutral? buffs
homu removed the negative effects for cny and gave you even more buff
god bless homu
this is current progress + character supply card + 20 dorm cards + weapon supply card that ill get next version
i still have weeklies to finish + realm of battle
i was thinking about not leaving 8.1 empty handed so i don't feel troubled that i don't have enough for 8.2 and onwards
I did expect you to have some crystals, but that is a lot 😭
my last pull is vita 
I think you're good 
i also grinded some story n stuff
Hopefully you get lucky though
probably would've had that much as well if I didn't pull s2 vita and sparkle, i have 20k now
tbf i only have 7 useable characters (if you still count helia), we don't talk about the rest
i still have the apho supply to grind but im on a burnout
I gave up on apho after getting LoO too much effort for me 
i did use the crystal calculator and based on it i can possibly guarantee kiana + wp + ely dk + 8.2 character + their wp (kinda im like 20 pulls away) if i hit hard pity with that all
bless the 9 weeks 🙏
although i must be active and do the one source crystals to achieve this
and idk if i can do that i don't think lmao
I hope they provide different events in week 7-9...
oh this calculation counts all of 8.1
me too
otherwise I might legit go in a burnout if all they'll make us do is 1 month of weekly with no new event at all
for the love of me pls no more turn based combat and card games pls
lmao this is kinda me in this patch
im just forcing myself to do my weeklies
i still have to finish the captainverse event even though i alr got all of the crystals
Just wait for p2 Carole

I'll take it
yeah that one is interesting
i suppose ill consider teri aop then if i don't reach the milestone
if i do then im not sure
UNLOCK: Upon casting Combo ATK, weapon skill, or Basic ATK SEQ 4, trigger evasion skill.
Link enemy dmg share 6% > 7%. If Badum is the leader, her own dmg transfer rate is increased to 15% > 16%.
When an enemy on the field is hit by Badum’s Combo ATK or Stellar Shift, the enemy takes 11% (S) / 18% (S2) more Total DMG from Ba-dum Kiana’s weapon skill and Ult.
S2 Kiana
Teri will stay for a long time for me to know about 8.2 by then if nothing changes
ohh so a small dmg increase?
hehe fun idea but i don't really chase skins
the animations are awesome but i can't lie im still not used to it
suddenly got reminded of how bad the official EN name of Vita's skin is 
ngl if it was hofi's skin maybe ill consider even though i barely see hofi when im fighting 
at least i decided that if im too far from the milestone then ill get teri aop
but if i get hard pitied (like fuking always) then I'll reach the milestone easily
what is it
Eldritch Vantage
#glblul moment
what the cn name and better tl 
not a tl issue. the name is chosen by the team.
when is the new valk stuff coming out?
almost 4 weeks
yea but you said the name is bad. so you just dont like the sound of it?
so farrrrrrrrrr
i need to know if i should skip kiana o r nah
CN is Sincere Plumes Overseeing The World.
Because the entire themed of the outfit is Divine Vita who holds universal love.
vantage is fine (basically the same as overseeing).
Eldritch is just superficial and ignores the theme
I can't replace anything can I 
When I see the word eldritch I just of think of eldtritch horror 
skipping kiana is a crime by itself
i feel like eldritch has a bit of an evil connotation so heavenly is better.. but still doesn't really convey the theme
is it bc of the eyes?
IT'S NOT A SNAKE 
I'm skipping cny kiana in case the older looking hofin kiana is a suit 
The eyes are closer to diamonds than snake eyes
i know that's why it depends on the next valk
im a f2p
8.1 is 9 weeks long
I just pull on advs to make the Valk I get feel stronger 
you'll have time to save
you have time to save for everything with the next patches' length
hows that been working out for you 
I actually got +100 on the most recent abyss boss thanks to my herrscher trio

Nostalgia on top 
since when is a 3yo team nostalgia 💀
And I also got +100 on the recent senawho boss as well

drya logic is anything not p2 = nostalgia
trio came out... 3 years ago?
They're meant to be nostalgia appealing especially with dkey, dkeys are basically just nostalgia bait
2 
That is true, anything that isn't p2 original cast is nostalgia

by that logic Vita is nostalgia
Well she is

just forget what I said

that's it, to the blockbusters
Maybe Numinous. Seraphic would work if not for the fact it would given the connotation of ally of god instead of god themselves.
Zephyr and Celestial could also work.

drya with his ~~f2p ~~ funds
i like celestial cause it links a bit into planetfarer 
I actually am f2p, I just skip alot and just get by mostly with herrscher trio and vita and senawho
tho, maybe i would change the vantage word then because it still doesnt give any vibe of vita watching over / guarding
And also my snake queen mobius 
celestial's vantage 
I don't remember the last time I used my Ely 
vantage means a high point. Same meaning in this case (overseeing from above)
yeah. well im not a native english speaker but it gives me more of an image of a sniper or hunter rather than a protector
celestial observer?
im not really lucky these days with hoyo games
but im saving rn, im almost at 30k
going for vita's skin > hohe's dk > kiana
HI3 has no 5050 bs 
oh i see the issue now
but still has high pity with expensive pulls
Imagine if they'd ever match the pull amount cost to be like other hoyo games (160/1600)
Sometimes that comes to mind as I reach the 20 pity range in HI3
That would be too generous for a small indie game
monkey paw curls
ok but now you have 50/50 chance to roll some old useless valk from the dorm banner list
That would be the equivalent exchange for it, lol
Erm umm actually my snake queen still has a top score while being in dorm 🤓
Thats like a...1/32nd chance..
imagine losing the 50/50 to Dimension Breaker


you know that's because those games have lower rates, right 
and different income

With my luck, it feels all blurry sometimes, lol
Nó
I'm gonna be honest
But now BP shop cycle is paid with permanent shop being the only thing available to f2p
Vita's skin is good. It's pretty. It's got good animations, it's got good effects, it's got a good color theme, her eyes are gorgeous too but it's NOWHERE near as good as her original outfit
still a pretty good change even for f2p
reserve shop is the new exchange shop + WT
but i guess it may not feel good when you see the locked BP shop
I'd rather have had access to Luna gear since is what I'm missing
just wait for luna to be added to reserve shop 
As someone used to saving a lot or for a long time in gacha games I'll take this change anyday
Yes. Wait until she has 0 value 
hope the cost isnt too high
longer version i think bp reward will be bigger because in just 4-5 weeks you will clear bp

more trashy BP box

Y'all buy bp? 
nope 
bp in 2025
Not like it gives p2 valk frags anyways 
elfs and valks are still locked behind paid bp right
Wait
I literally told you 
I thought that shit was just worded wrong


indeed
no, reserve shop has valk too
could have elf too but wont expect much
so paid gets you most recent bp and free gets you past bp
sound about right
The tradeoff for lower crystal to guarantee came pretty fuckin late
not stated
we literally do not know what's there
i see wide range of battlesuit 
I read with 2 hours of sleep tbf
may sound like f2p got it worse but we still need to wait to buy stuff with current system anyway 
wait where is my torus gonna come from if i dont get a bunch for free after skipping a bp cycle 
If by past bp you mean 8.1 and before, maybe. If you mean 8.2 at patch 8.3 it does not sound like that at all
a bunch of torus for free
Only reserve is available without paying according to a comment by marisa
just buy bp every patch ez
8.2 BP shop should be added to reserve shop when it gone
Whats in 8.2 bp?
no idea
where sp gear
foundry
It was SPared by Hoyo
Prom

keep waiting 
It says you can still exchange item from 8.3-8.4 at 8.5 if you purchased bp at 8.4, why would it say that if 8.2 bp stuff can be bought from reserve shop anyways?
I hope you're right about that obviously the wording just doesn't make sense to me with this
im not saying they said that
but reserve shop will get updated, 8.2 end after 8.4, 3 9 weeks patches seem reasonable for it to be added to reserve shop
just saying it should
Then I absolutely agree
seem like you can see up to 8.4 from 8.2, not sure if you can still see future BP, like 8.5 from 8.3
luna stellar key 8.5 /hj
why do cn players call bp 月卡
that's monthly
no they mentioned bp
something that released between 1.0-8.1
I love the vaugness but

something near hare and luna 

FoV 
Whos on the returner banner these days guys?
And can i clear stuff with my part 1 valks?
I dont have a single part 2 valk
is 大月卡 supposed to be paladin bp

And when is the anniversary?
they better add XY sword to that new bp
luna in next patch
luna in 2025
Luna Kindred
i think they are deciding to cut the money spent, 小月卡 is monthly, 大月卡 is BP
they havent bought 小月卡 for 2 months, only buy 大月卡 if they feel like it
now with the permanent shop, they can cut 大月卡 too
Ooooooo the vampire theresa?
guess BP will have less value now, less reason to rush
Whats in the upcoming patch?
knight
no word for paladin lol
just use official term for paladin
I guess no one buys paladin
kurowhel buys paladin every patch 
b4 bp was a thing there was this hack u can buy using money and it literally looked like monthly and its located right next to the actual monthly xd, so big monthly referred to this hack, and then when bp came out, big monthly referred to bp instead

Fund me bp pls
Artbook in redemption code thats crazy
10k coin code
Nice cope
what?
another stig ticket? gahdamn ill have 3
enough for a whole set

prism is never an issue for f2p 
sure...
he's technically not wrong
10000 arkbook codes and it hidden all over the story
Now that's some funny stuff

because depending on your luck (or savings) as a f2p, you might not be able to pull everything
meaning you have no use for prisms
= prisms aren't an issue


still have enough for 3 set 
wolf 518D
vita dudu 819
vita sparkle 816
vita songque 802
vita elysia 789
vitagood
can't wait for CN livestream
waiting
wait faster
how is divine key ely's supporting compared to songque
cuz i know they're both just general supports for wheel and LoA
i know Ely 1-ups her in terms of animation time
yeah that buff made her really good
for LoA or for WoD?
LoA - much worse
WoD - kinda equal bc songque is really clunky but ely is fast
kiana isnt broken
oh finality? well we still dont know her ??? supporting capability
shes crucial for like 4 teams at least
the reason shes not good for WoD is bc of thelema
and the reason shes not that good for LoA is bc of songque and sparkle
she isnt bad at all
there are just better options
she's the best for symphony tho with kiana
and im sure her ??? ring support will be good
yea the problems is im skipping kiana
yea im kinda putting all my eggs on that
i doubt the next character will also have that and since im skipping ba-dum, i need at least 2 characters for ???
yep
oh...
damn that dudu pull mightve bricked u
since u dont have enough for teri asop now either
its ok im not a nirvana player
teri asop looking reallll nice even for RL
i know but i can make do with que
Herrscher trio on top

que with dudu 
is not cuz of that buff tho 
no she gets project bnnuy
DS is better
shes still much better with the buff
whats ds
dreamseeker
wait really?
yep most of the time
iirc on like one boss PB was a bit above DS bc you used dudu songque vita and didnt use vita's shift
even if project bunny 3 stars?
should be
damn i need to raise my DS
no u dont
It’s a it depends kind of thing
i have xp for days why should it matter
Example 3S kiaelf outperformed SS DS on a boss for vita that was a lamp boss for me a noticeable difference
no reason to exhaust your resources and matz for useless buffs
operation terminals are few and far between
mkay fine
What
she's only crucial for 1 team
2
teri more often than not doesnt use hofi afaik
she usually uses vita sparkle or thele sparkle
hofi is crucial for sena dps vita dps and hoo dps i believe
oh and sparkle dps
I’m hoping to get Ely’s DK so I can use her with Vita…as I’m not sure, but hoping I can get big Kiana, but I’m doubting I’ll ever get Thele.
well if no sparkle but own teri then teri vita hofi is common
Is there an Astral Op comparison guide for new Kiana?
i'll probably do it soon
joke but also real
How big is this
Like fws hhe lp teri > fws rs tfmc ds big? 
Oh
with her buff to not need punch she is opie op for loa
its always fws + lp + situational support
So hhe teri > sparkle ds big in terms of big?
Teri aop right
Well then youre thinking the wrong teri asop usage

Teri asop is for LoA and Vita
Oh Badwomen can use teri?
Surely I double 
Surely early kiana and get sss teri
but for loa, s teri 
Need to luccsacc so I have leftover xtal for vita skin
What use vita dmg when morale low 

praying on your downfall
Why is S so cooked
big patch
because shes not wod aop?
I can almost guarantee SS
Issue is just vita skin after
"why is a non WoD aop worse than a WoD aop in WoD"
thats like asking why kiaelf not good with elysia
Ok but even compared to ds
Ig it like ely for phys 
another weak weapon (sync)
second multiplier locked to wielder
not like songque gigachad staff that say the character on the field gains phys dmg
smol dudu big staff

it shouldn't save a lot of time
but i haven't tested yet
estimate maybe 1-2s shorter rot
also restores sp for her, is that relevant
or does she have infinite sp
only for MA?
no sp issues
vita outfit
not sure why they gave her the extra sp xd
maybe new ring is sp hungry

ult spam ring
xdd
Burst mode ring which consume sp per second
turns out all rings were based on hot on the trail zones 


isnt that wod already
Thats a solo ring, i want a ring with summoned entity base buffs and gameplay
i dont understand
summoner is the ultimate solo class, dont need teammates when you have summons
there is no contradiction here
U know hare, her combat is her fighting with her commanding her summoned entity, i want something like that
Phantoms are basically summons but aren't considered summoned entities by relevant buffs
That's literally just glorified burst mode
I mean her normal gameplay pre ult
but you (the player, the summoner) are basically already commanding the summoned entity (the valkyrie), i dont see what meaningful adding extra layer between would do
Yes and i want an entire ring system based on that

like instead of kiana fighting on the field you want "mei" to be the valkyrie but then she just summons kiana and you play kiana anyway
whats the difference
That's just a waste of a slot
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they made a ring that turned you into a monster tho
Like the 8.0 event
That would be funny
you mean like 7.4 event with thelema controlling those fish 
Though it's also pretty similar to WoD

And the first valk of that type is female keksma


Usually when hoyo lets us play as monsters they're usually pretty slow in attacking and stuff so I don't know how nice regular gameplay with that would feel
That's dudu I mean what
Wtf SS teri 36 ar refund for RoO 
do you really not know that teri best dps is hofi vita?
literally other teams than that is losing in nirvana, can't even 0+
kinda regret that i didn't get hofi from spending
depends on boss
if you need extra quantum break from sparkle
like currently on MA Vita
but yes for raw dps hfi vita is best
not talking about MA
even patch lounge got moved to GLB time now?
Kiana Chann
At least for the anniversary.
still no artbook, guess we ain't getting them anymore 😦
-50% revenue for 8.1
ew
Zzz
ew it's just twitch drop

Ah thought they might have had a prototype to show but it's just like GLB stream. They announced they are making one.

Ah
2 book next anni instead
does cn have access to this stigma?
ik it says anniversary and all but i still wonder
no
i see
maybe 8.2 or never 
cn still haven't got it
yuh! the new bp seems to be locked behind a paywall tho according to the pic
I wish I had space but space where? 
isnt that only for exchange shop
That's the thing that matters most
Ooof
Wait WHAT
nice thumbnail
Smol Dudu bad real

we aren't very sure about that, but the new BP system come with new reserve shop, so f2p can still buy stuffs
Oh yeah that
it has valk + gear too, probably not as recent as the BP shop but wont be too old like exchange/WT shop
its interesting tho, having 2 permanent shops for valks (wt and a part of the new bp) + three for gear (foundry, exchange shop and a part of the new bp)
At least there is more reasons to free some space on my drive ❤️
bye
bye
bye felicia
Bye
i missed the live for glb
did they announce the artbooks cn got but glb didnt? 
I'm also upset over no artbook but are you guys playing just for that? or are we quitting because of inequality
it is best that they quit
always when ppl quit over small thing like that it means they were already looking for an excuse to quit
its the "straw that broke the camel's back"
dudu motivated
Art book for glbl?
None, inexistent
Gone, dissappeared into oblivion, cancelled, annilhated, destroyed

you cant cancel something that never existed 


Do we know who comes after Kiana or nah
idk
Kurowhel valk
only a little info in pins of 8.2 but not abt new valk
who?
kurowhel valk


rare to see so many Bitas's at one time huh
hard bracket
pull sporkol for nirbaba

good riddance omegalul

481 in 2025
I wish the devs communicated
actually in livestream
@terse ravine 
Lmao cute

Finally got back to RL again on my part 2 only account and its starless environment 💔
its actually not
on quantum bosses you like 100% of the time want sparkle
if its not quantum boss then sure
but all of teri's bosses are quantum
as long as the boss has more than 1 quantum shield you need sparkle
U NEED hofi for all ws dps's (and vita and hoo cuz otheriwse their dmg goes poo)
Other than teri?
yeah pretty much
Really?
yes
- fast rot
- fast detonations
- insane buffs
dont know why ur surprised

What about the other kiana?
yes
looks pretty good for WS, her detonations are faster than average but still not as fast as hofi's
probably best ws team will be double kiana support
nah

its not
im in beta and you still want bita
Whos the 3rd best ws support?
random ass questions
Okay im hofiless sorry
- hofi
- vita
- kiana












